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Docket #0985 -Hearing discussing Permits for At-Home Entrepreneurs in the City of Boston
A
A
Have
a
listen,
I'm
calling
this
hearing
to
a
to
an
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
julia
mejia
city
counselor
at
large,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
boston
city
council
committee,
on
small
business
and
workforce
development,
I'm
also
the
sponsor
of
this
docket,
I'm
recognizing
my
colleagues.
In
order
of
arrival,
I'm
also
joined
by
my
colleague
counselor
ed
flynn,
from
district
two
counselor
liz
breden
from
district
9,
counselor,
andrea
campbell
from
district
4
and
my
at-large
city
councilor,
at-large,
anissa
asabi-george.
A
A
A
You
may
also
submit
written
testimony
by
emailing
ccc.sbwd
at
boston.gov
and
in
accordance
to-
and
I
know
that
we
have
some
in
accordance
to
the
rules
and
regarding
the
issues
that
are
happening
right
now
and
to
covet
we're
hosting
this
particular
hearing
via
zoom,
so
that
we
can
ensure
the
safety
of
our
residents.
I
know
that's
somewhere
in
the
script.
A
Our
expected
speakers
today
include
commissioner
dion
irish
who's,
the
inspectional
service,
the
commissioner
for
an
inspectional
service
department,
natalia
ubiate
who's,
the
director
of
small
business
for
the
city
of
boston
office
of
of
economic
development,
chris
english,
chief
of
staff
for
inspectional
services,
catalina
prospect,
faro,
I'm
the
director
of
policy
for
the
mayors
of
economic
development
and
we
also
are
joined.
Our
second
panel
is
andrei
into
rosari.
Who
is
the
inspiration
behind
this
particular
hearing
order?
A
Irene
nakka
me
lagoon
and
you
all
are
gonna-
have
to
school
me
on
saying
your
name
right,
because
I
hate
when
people
mispronounce
my
name.
So
when
it's
your
turn
to
speak.
Let
me
know
the
founder
of
many
one
juices
and
segun,
who
is
the
director
of
the
boston
economic
council
of
massachusetts,
I'm
going
to
refrain
from
my
own
opening
statements
as
usual,
because
we
are
pressed
for
time.
A
So
now
I
only
have
like
20
more
minutes
left
and
I've
said
all
of
this,
and
here
we
go
I'm
going
to
first
start
off
with
natalia
who,
I
know
has
to
leave
at
4
30..
So
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
keep
your
comments
really
short
and
then
I'm
going
to
go
on.
I
believe
that
chris
english
will
also
be
joining
us
and
we'll
have
him
speak
after
you.
So
that's
how
you
not
have
the
floor.
B
Thank
you
so
much
counselor.
It's
always
a
pleasure
to
be
here.
So
we'll
keep
it
super
brief.
You
know
my
office
is
here
to
support
all
small
business
owners,
all
entrepreneurs,
anyone
looking
to
engage
in
the
city
of
boston.
In
particular.
You
know
our
small
mom
and
pops
are
the
lifeline
of
our
city,
so
we're
really
proud
to
support
small
businesses.
B
While
most
of
our
focus
is
on
our
main
streets
and
our
you
know
commercial
districts,
we
encourage
anyone
who
is
interested
in
starting
a
business
to
reach
out
to
our
team.
We
actually
get
a
lot
of
folks
looking
to
start
new
businesses,
entrepreneurs.
You
know
micro
enterprises
startups
reaching
out
to
us
and
we
have
a
lot
of
programming
a
lot
of
support
systems
in
place,
a
lot
of
technical
assistance
for
small
businesses,
so
we
really
work
with
small
businesses
after
they've
been
established
or
during
that
kind
of
incubation
space.
B
Ties
to
businesses
that
are,
you
know,
coming
springing
up
from
their
homes,
there's
a
lot
of
business
owners
who
work
from
home
and
who
are
you
know
starting
businesses
every
day
in
their
homes
and
so
we're
here
to
support
in
whatever
way
we
can
obviously
anytime
it
comes
with
food,
and
there
are
other
limitations
and
restrictions
there
and
just
safety
guidelines
that
we
have
to
follow.
B
So
I
will
defer
to
my
colleagues
and
inspectional
services,
who
are
experts
in
this
field
to
really
talk
through
kind
of
the
logistics
around
establishing
a
business
in
your
home,
especially
when
it
pertains
to
something
that
can
be
dangerous
for
the
public
health.
B
So
with
that,
I
just
want
to
say
that
my
office
is
always
here
and
we're
always
available
for
any
support
to
any
small
business
owner,
and
with
that
I
will
I'll
just
say:
anybody
who
needs
help
or
wants
to
connect
with
our
team
can
either
do
so.
On
fridays
we
do
office
hours
from
11
to
2.,
sorry
from
9
to
11
and
2
to
4
every
friday,
their
virtual
office
hours.
Anyone
can
stop
by
and
get
their
questions
answered.
B
We
also
do
a
small
business
conference
call
every
tuesday
at
3
pm.
That's
live
on
facebook,
it's
also
available
via
zoom,
and
finally,
they
can
email
smallbiz
at
boston.gov.
We
have
capacity
in
multiple
languages
and
we're
always
here
to
support
businesses
in
whatever
way.
We
can.
Thank
you
so
much
counselor.
A
Thank
you
natalia.
I
am
going
to.
I
don't
see
chris
english
here.
Does
anyone
know
if
he's
going
to
be
joining.
C
C
You
know
my
my
role
for
inspectional
services
is
is
primarily
around
the
permitting
and
inspection
of
food
service
businesses
throughout
the
city
of
boston
and
our
motto
that
we
try
to
operate
by
is
compliance
through
assistance,
and
I
think
that
through
the
pandemic,
that's
only
been
amplified
and
magnified
significantly,
because
we
realize
the
the
amount
of
stress
and
pressure
pressure.
Some
small
businesses
or
all
small
businesses
are
under
during
the
current
circumstances,
and
we've
been
doing
our
best
to
assist
every
business.
C
We
can
to
try
to
try
to
make
make
some
of
these
new
creative
ideas
work
in
as
many
applications
as
possible,
ranging
from
the
sale
of
sale
groceries
at
community
restaurants
to
changing
how
we
manage
the
takeout
operations-
and
you
know
even
the
outdoor
patio
seating
and
all
that
was
a
partnership
we
use
with
a
number
of
different
businesses.
The
same
would
be
said
for
this,
and
this
idea
so
under
the
not
to
bore
you
all
too
much
code.
C
You
know
to
keep
this
brief
as
possible,
but
under
the
105
cmr
five.
Ninety
point:
zero
one
zero
for
this
for
the
states
for
merged
food
code,
home
residential
restaurants,
are
are
allowable
function
under
the
food
code.
There
are
some
regulatory
issues
around
the
city's
zoning.
C
With
respect
to
that
which,
unfortunately,
is
not
my
expertise,
but
I
do
know
it
exists
from
isd
that
we
would
have
to.
We
would
have
to
address
and
then
also
more
specifically
from
from
from
my
point
of
view,
which
is
really
solely
about
the
safety
of
food
that
is,
that
is
being
sold
and
even
given
out
to
the
public.
C
There
are.
There
are
a
whole
host
of
of
challenges
that
we'd
have
to
we'd
have
to
address,
ranging
from
the
the
the
proper
handling,
certified
management
of
food
sort
of,
and
then
also
some
some
concerns
around.
You
know
the
the
operation
within
within
a
home
that
we
have.
C
We
have
to
work
work
on
together
to
figure
out,
and
then
you
know
everyone's
hearing
the
term
contact
tracing
quite
a
bit
nowadays,
but
that's
something
that
the
health
division
has
been
doing
for
a
very
long
time
and
the
reason
why
I
bring
that
up
is
because
it's
one
of
these
things
we
have
to
think
about
is
also
the
where
the
food
comes
from,
how
it
gets
there.
C
Who's
handling
it
and
dealing
with
that
line
of,
like
that
logistical
line
of
of
food
food
sale
to
the
folks
that
are
going
to
eventually
use
this
in
their
home
to
create
create
food
for
sale.
So
we're
all
ears
we're
here
to
be
helpful
through
the
process.
But
you
know
these
just
you
know
there
are
quite
a
few
things
we're
gonna
have
to
work
through
together.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Dan
really
do
appreciate
you
both
being
here,
and
this
is
this-
is
why
we
host
public
hearings
so
that
we
can
bring
everyone
to
the
table
and
decide.
How
can
we
make
things
happen?
What
are
the
roadblocks
to
those
challenges
and
then
just
take
it
from
there?
So
really
looking
forward
to
engaging
you
in
this
conversation
and
learning?
More
importantly
about
what
this
looks
like
in
in
terms
of
implementation,
we
were
really
excited
to
hold
this
hearing.
A
The
idea
actually
was
a
constituent
who
came
to
us
and
really
had
done
some
amazing
research,
so
we're
really
looking
forward
to
unpacking
this
further.
I'm
gonna
go
next
to
because
I
know
you
also
have
to
leave
at
five.
So
I
wanted
to
open
up
the
conversation
and
give
you
an
opportunity
to
save
some
remarks
and
then
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
have
a
q,
a
a
short
q,
a
with
with
natalia
and
dan.
Before
we
move
on
okay.
D
Well,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
chairperson,
and
want
to
thank
you
and
your
colleagues.
I
think
I
saw
counselors
campbell
and
asavi
george
and
flynn
joining
us
and,
and
members
of
the
city
joining
us
today
for
this
important
conversation.
D
D
I
want
to
thank
you
especially
councillor
mejia,
for
for
bringing
this
conversation
to
the
public
space
in
your
continued
advocacy
for
small
businesses,
particularly
those
owned
by
people
of
color,
and
really
want
to
commend
mr
antazari
and
and
and
his
supporters
for
bringing
this
issue
not
only
here
to
the
city
of
boston
but
to
other
cities
and
towns
in
the
commonwealth
and
making
this
a
reality.
So
I
commend
those
efforts
to
bring
this
to
bear.
I'm.
D
Very
brief
because,
as
I
mentioned
as
an
organization
our
board,
our
members
are
deeply
supportive
of
the
spirit
and
intent
of
this
effort,
and
we
really
encourage
your
colleagues
on
the
council,
as
well
as
those
in
the
mayor's
office
and
city
departments,
to
work
with
you
and
the
community
advocates
to
bring
this
to
bear
I'll,
only
share
a
few
pieces
of
information
as
to
why
something
like
this
is
important,
particularly
for
black
and
latinx
businesses
here
in
boston,
but
also
throughout
the
commonwealth.
D
Back
in
april,
at
a
hearing
on
docket
number
zero,
five,
eight
four,
which
was
a
hearing
order
brought
to
together
by
councillor
wu
and
janie,
I
believe,
to
discuss
the
impacts
of
copenhagen
in
our
community.
I
mentioned
at
that
time
that
over
60
percent
of
our
members
of
black
business
members
indicated
not
having
reserves
to
last
up
to
90
days,
and
this
was
reported
before
the
state
shut
down
over
90
were
already
experiencing
severe
economic
issues.
Half
of
them
were
already
saying
they
would
have
to
lay
people
off.
D
Half
of
them
were
experiencing
supply
chain
disruptions.
I
also
mentioned
around
that
time.
This
is,
after
the
first
instance
of
the
paycheck
protection
program
or
the
first
tranche
was
released
by
the
federal
government.
At
that
time,
the
center
for
responsible
lending
had
reported
that
95
of
black
businesses
across
the
country
did
not
gain
access
to
this
first
round,
and
that
was
also
true
here
in
the
commonwealth
itself
and
again.
D
At
that
time,
41
percent
of
black
businesses
had
reported
that
they
had
closed
their
doors
for
good
later
that
summer,
beckham
worked
with
other
organizations
like
amplify
latinx,
commonwealth
kitchen,
the
foundation
for
business
equity,
lisc,
boston,
mass
association
of
cdc's
and
dozens
of
other
community
and
non-profit
organizations
across
the
state
to
conduct
a
poll
with
massinc
polling
group
to
get
a
sense
of
how
massachusetts
based
businesses
were
faring
amid
the
pandemic.
This
is
in
july
and
august.
At
that
point,
many
people
had
assumed
you
know.
Foolishly,
all
of
us
did
that
covet.
D
We're
kicking
ourselves
seven
months
later,
but
at
that
time
over
the
summer
it
showed
that
11
of
black
businesses
here
in
the
commonwealth
had
closed
their
doors
and
eight
percent
of
latinx
owned
businesses
closed
their
doors.
It.
D
Of
white
businesses
had
closed
their
doors
at
that
time,
but
it's
important
to
put
this
in
the
context
of
number
of
the
numbers
of
black
and
latino
businesses
here
in
the
commonwealth
for
black
businesses.
Specifically,
there
are
about
2
000
black
owned
firms
that
employ
14
000
people
across
the
commonwealth,
and
this
is
compared
to
white
businesses
where
there
are
187,
000
or
roughly,
that
number
that
employ
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
in
the
commonwealth.
And
so
when
we
use
that
statistic
of
11
versus
the
14.
D
Negative
impact
on
the
on
the
wealth
wealth
gap
here
in
the
commonwealth.
D
The
survey
also
showed
that
black
and
like
next
businesses
are
disproportionately
represented
in
the
industries
of
retail
restaurants,
hair
care,
personal
care-
and
this
is
important,
because
these
are
the
industries
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
for
decades
and
decades
to
come
by
covid,
even
after
finding
a
vaccine,
because
these
are
the
industries
that
require
some
of
the
most
in-person
human
contact
and
folks
are
just
not
gonna,
feel
comfortable
being
around
others
as
much
as
we
yearn
to
be
outside.
D
We're
not
gonna,
feel
comfortable
being
around
large
groups
of
people,
as
we
were
in
the
four
times.
So
that's
why
we're
supporting
measures
like
this
and
others
that
seek
to
make
it
easier
for
entrepreneurs
and
small
business
owners
to
engage
in
commerce?
You
know
we.
We
very
much
commend
the
city
of
boston.
D
I
want
to
commend
natalya
and
her
shop
chief,
barros
and
others
for
the
efforts
they
undertook
this
summer
to
help
to
provide
relief
to
small
businesses
across
the
city
through
the
grant
program,
the
millions
of
dollars
I
set
aside
for
that,
but
then
taking
it.
D
One
step
further
going
beyond
the
state
and
all
350
other
cities
and
towns
in
the
state
where
they
set
up
a
relief
fund
to
provide
for
folks
to
get
ppe
personal
protective
equipment
in
order
to
open
their
business
in
a
safe
manner.
So
I
want
to
commend
those
efforts,
and
so
you
know
again
we're
gonna
continue
to
support
efforts
that
make
it
easier
for
business
owners
to
engage
in
commerce,
which
is
the
real
way
that
we
sustain
our
businesses.
D
Grants
and
loans
are
important
for
helping
to
stabilize
the
business.
But
if
we
want
to
sustain
the
business
and
to
ensure
their
growth,
trajectory
commerce
is
what's
important.
That's
why
we
focus
so
much
on
contracting
as
well,
and
so
you
know
for
this
effort
and
the
fact
that
it's
supporting
those
in
the
food
industry,
it's
going
to
be
really
important,
that
we
are
providing
every
available
opportunity.
D
So
I'll
close
by
saying
this,
that
back
in
april
and
every
other
hearing
that
we've
been
invited
to,
we
have
shared
this
one
particular
statistic
that
shows
the
importance
of
minority
businesses.
The
brookings
institution
reported
in
april
that
although
minority
businesses
were
more
likely
to
shudder
during
the
great
recession,
a
time
that
we're
experiencing
right
now,
they
helped
stabilize
the
national
economy.
D
It
was
reported
that
minority-owned
businesses
helped
to
add
more
than
1.8
million
jobs
across
the
country
between
2007
and
2012,
while
white-owned
firms
lost
1.6
million
jobs,
and
so
I
used
that
statistic
to
say
that
the
reason
why
we
were
able
to
add
so
many
jobs
was
because
of
the
industries
that
we
were
that
were
just
aforementioned:
the
restaurants,
retail
hair
care,
etc.
D
And
so
it's
going
to
be
really
important
and
critical
that
we
are
supporting
folks
who
remain
in
these
industries
to
again
to
help
stabilize
them
and
to
make
sure
they
have
every
avenue
and
every
resource
available
to
grow.
So
urging
again,
your
colleagues
on
the
council
councillor
mejia
to
support
you
know
any
ordinance
or
any
changes
to
zoning
that
was
mentioned
earlier.
D
Anything
that
needs
to
be
remedied
to
make
this
possible,
but
also
want
to
urge
city
departments
and
staff
to
come
with
the
mindset
of
how
to
make
this
happen,
as
opposed
to
focusing
on
the
barriers
so
again,
councillor,
mejia
and
the
rest
of
your
colleagues.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
address
you
today.
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
comments
of
the
of
the
advocates
as
well
as
hearing.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much,
it's
so
great
to
have
you
here.
I'm
gonna
go
just
in
the
interest
of
time.
A
I'm
going
to
ask
my
colleagues
if
you
have
any
questions
for
any
of
the
panelists
we're
right
now,
we're
just
gonna
be
focusing
on
dan
manning
and
natalia
from
the
administration
first
and
then
shagoon
who
has
to
leave
at
five.
So
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
give
my
colleagues
an
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions
specifically
to
the
natalia
or
dan
so
and
I
don't
see
any
blue
hands,
I'm
going
to
assume
I'm
going
down
through
the
list.
Oh,
I
do
see
one
blue
hand.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
to
counselor
campbell
for
very
short
remarks
and
questions
for
either
dan
manning
or
natalia
bertie
council
campbell.
You
not
have
the
floor.
A
G
Just
joking,
no,
I
think
we're
unmuting
all
at
the
same
time,
so
I
no,
I
don't
have.
I
guess
questions
but
first
of
all,
thank
you
all
and
thank
you
for
the
hearing
order
and,
of
course,
when
I
thank
you
as
the
maker
it
was,
it
was
more.
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
other
panelists
to
add
more
color
to
the
conversation,
because
when
I
came
in,
I
wanted
to
just
know
more
so.
Hence
why
I'm
on
the
call.
G
So,
of
course
I
appreciate
you
know
dan
natalia
issue
from
the
administration
and,
of
course,
what
chagan
just
said
in
terms
of
adding
more
context
and
color
how
to
think
about
the
issue
so
I'll
give
my
time
to
if
there
are
other
panelists
to
just
understand
what
is
possible
here
and
what's
being
proposed.
A
Yeah,
so
thank
you
for
that
council
campbell,
just
in
the
interest
of
time,
because
we're
losing
both
natalya
and
dan
at
4
30..
The
goal
was
to
have
them
first.
Oh,
I
missed
it.
I'm
sorry
yeah,
that's
okay!
So
I'm
just
going
to
reiterate
again
for
my
colleagues
who
may
have
come
in
later
is
that
in
the
interest
of
time
where
are
allowing
we've
asked
italian
dan
to
go
first
and
then
we're
going
to
go
into.
I
haven't
even
done
my
opening
remarks
either,
just
because
we're
trying
to
keep
things
moving.
G
Oh
good,
I
will
say
you
know,
I
think
we
can
always
get
past
the
barriers
and
restrictions.
It
requires
changing
isd
code
or
anything
else
if
the
idea
is
going
to
help,
of
course,
businesses
in
this
moment
in
time.
So
I
can
save
any
questions
through
you
as
a
chair
to
send
later,
but
thank
you
guys.
Stay
safe
and
healthy.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
and
you
know
in
the
interest
of
in
the
interest
of
that
feedback,
because
you
know,
I
think
it's
important
if
other
counselors
are
still
trying
to
understand
the
context
of
this
particular
hearing
order.
I'll
read
my
opening
remarks
so
that
everybody's
having
the
same
conversation
and
everybody
knows
what
room
they're
walking
into
so
that
so
we're
excited
to
hold
this
hearing.
This
idea
was
entirely
constituent
driven
and
we
want
to
give
out.
A
A
There
are,
there
are,
as
we
know,
there
are
also
many
entrepreneurs
in
the
cities
in
the
city,
whose
only
problem
is
that
they
are
facing
systemic
barriers
to
capital
and
other
financial
resources.
Starting
a
business
is
hard.
I
started
my
own
non-profit,
so
I
know
firsthand
just
how
difficult
it
can
be.
We
need
to
find
a
we
need
to
find
new
and
innovative
ways
to
empower
small
business
owners
in
our
city.
The
benefit
of
this
proposal
are
twofold.
A
First,
we
are
supporting
entrepreneurs
who
would
not
only
have
who
would
not
have
a
resource,
a
source
of
income
to
build
capital
for
their
businesses.
Second,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
residential
kitchens,
we
are
finding
ways
to
provide
local,
culturally
competent
foods
in
neighborhoods,
where
other
options
are
limited.
We're
really
excited
about
this
proposal
and
look
forward
to
hearing
from
the
administration
the
advocates
and
from
members
of
the
public.
A
I
also
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
anna
leslie
from
the
austin
brighton,
health
collaborative
and
jen
figo
from
commonwealth
kitchen,
who
both
submitted
public
testimony,
which
I
will
read
towards
the
end
of
this
hearing.
So
I
hope
that
provides
us
a
little
bit
more
context
in
terms
of
what
we're
here
to
discuss
and
what
we're
hoping
to
get
out
of
it
again.
This
is
a
public
hearing,
an
opportunity
for
discussion
to
hear
how
we
can
make
this
a
reality.
B
Going
sorry
just
before
we
jump
off,
can
I
just
say
one
more
quick
thing,
so
I
think
one
thing
that
would
be
really
helpful
for
us
is
and
andre
it's
great
to
see
you.
We
chatted
back
earlier
in
the
summer
when
this
idea
was
first
kind
of
culminating.
B
B
Obviously,
boston
has
a
couple
different
types
of
restrictions
and-
and
you
know
knowing
that
would
be
really
helpful
and
again
just
reiterating
that
our
offices
are
really
disposed
to
helping
small
businesses
thrive
in
wherever
they're
coming
from
and
so
really
getting
a
better
sense
of
who
these
folks
are
and
what
type
of
businesses
they
want
to
start
because
you
know
in
particular,
as
as
it
the
kitchen
elements
that
are
required
in
order
for
you
to
have
a
commercial
type
of
kitchen
inside
your
home
are
really
really
expensive,
and
there
are
so
many
great
organizations
out
there.
B
Commissary
kitchens
that
could
potentially
be
a
starting
point
for
a
lot
of
these
businesses
before
they
go
into
deep
investments
that
could
potentially
be
really
risky
before
actually
kicking
off.
You
know
their
their
companies,
their
businesses,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
and
part
of
what
our
our
office
does
is
is
try
to
give
businesses
some
advice
and
guidance
as
they're
starting
their
businesses
to
prevent
unnecessary
risks,
unnecessary
debt
unnecessary.
B
But
it's
really
important
that
as
we
talk
about
this
particular
idea
that
we
bring
in
kind
of
the
reality
component
around
the
expenses
and
the
costs
of
being
able
to
do
this
right
and
do
this
well
in
your
own
home,
and
so
as
we
think
about
that,
you
know
just
know
that
we're
open
and
we're
here
and
we're
flexible,
and
we
want
to
be
creative
with
you
all
and
encourage
folks
to
come
to
us
if
they
have
any
questions
about
what
are
the
right
next
steps
for
their
business.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
for
that.
So
I
really
I
I
always
remain
hopeful.
I
I
think
that
checking
your
comments
in
terms
of
really
thinking
outside
the
box
and
pushing
ourselves
to
lead
without
barriers.
A
I
think
it's
just
really
telling
about
what
the
possibilities
are
in
this
moment
in
time,
and
I
think
it
presents
us
an
opportunity,
as
a
city
of
boston,
to
recognize
that
a
lot
of
the
barriers
that
we
face
are
outdated
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
change
the
way
we
do
business
literally
in
the
city
of
boston
and
so
happy
that
we
can
lean
on
you
beckma
in
particular
to
really
help
us
identify
what
that
data
is
that
natalia
talked
about
in
terms
of
what
the
need
and
the
appetite
is
for
this
and
then
identifying.
A
What
are
the
the
the
tools
that
these
business
owners
will
need,
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
we're
providing
them
with
those
resources
to
thrive?
So
natalia,
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
that
reality
into
the
space
and
definitely
looking
forward
to
working
alongside
you
to
remove
those
barriers
I'm
going
to
counselor
campbell.
A
A
You
yeah,
and
I
know
that
counselor
flynn,
you
have
your
blue
hand
up.
So
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
floor
to
you.
H
Thank
you
councilman
here,
so
is
this
round
with
city
officials.
Is
that.
A
Yep
this
round
right
now,
is
just
for
our
two
panelists,
natalya
and
dan.
They,
I
believe-
and
I
can't
see
if
they're
still
here,
we
have
other
panelists
that
are
lined
up,
but
right
now,
since
they
were
the
two
that
had
to
leave
earlier.
I
wanted
to
get
those
questions
out
of
the
way
for
them.
First,.
H
Okay,
thank
you
councilman
here.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
if
I
I
know
dan
very
well
and
and
natalia,
and
I
think
they
both
do
a
great
job
just
want
to
see
what
impact
the
pandemic
has
had
on
immigrant
owned
businesses,
especially
in
what
it's
somewhat
related
in
what
we
can
continue
to
do
to
be
helpful
to
them.
I
probably
represent
the
most
immigrant
owned
businesses
of
of
any
district
council,
so
I
want
to
see
what
impact
is
it
is
had.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
do
another
survey
or
or
just
a
deeper
dive,
and
that
maybe
is
something
that
natalia
and
her
office
can
potentially
do
comes
counselor
flynn
to
help
us
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
the
pandemic
has
impacted
minority
immigrant
owned
businesses,
I'm
going
to
go
to
councillor
arroyo.
I
Chair
is,
is
dan
manning
still
on.
A
I
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
the
work
you
do
aisha,
so
I
just
wanted
to
ask
specifically
just
as
I
kind
of
ground
myself
in
this
conversation.
Do
we
know
how
many
what
the
number
of
applicants
specifically
in
the
city
of
boston
for
at
home
entrepreneurship
is.
Do
we
have
like
a
number
for
any
of
that,
or
do
we
have
a
number
of
how
many
we
estimate
exist
in
the
city?
How
many
we
think
are
maybe
doing
it
unofficially
in
the
city?
Do
we
have
any
estimate
for
that.
J
High
council
arroyo
so
just
by
complaint
driven,
we
have
a
total
of
that.
I
have
is
25.
that
has
been.
They
have
been
given
to
me
as
a
complaint.
J
I
I
And
they're
pretty
much
in
in
some
of
our
most
diverse
neighborhoods,
so
this
is
definitely.
I
appreciate
that
so
much
I
didn't
actually
expect
that
that
level
of
detail.
So
that
was
great.
Thank
you.
That's
basically.
I
G
J
No
problem
and
those
are
mostly
like
food
establishments.
If
you
want
the
numbers,
for
you,
know
folks
doing
their
cosmetology
out
of
their
house,
I
can
get
those
numbers
as
well.
If
you'd
like.
I
I
appreciate
that
I
would
assume
those
are
the
two
probably
most
common
at
home,
maybe
maybe
one
with
children
and
babysitting
I'm
assuming
might
be
one
but
the
those
are
the
ones
that
I
would
know.
I
just
know
that
in
my
district
in
high
park
we
had
an
instance
of
somebody
who
was
laid
off
due
to
kobe.
I
They
were
a
chef
and
they
started
like
a
at
home,
take
out
service
and
they
were
kind
of
marketing
it
on
their
local
neighborhood
groups,
and
they
were,
they
were
getting
a
lot
of
praise
and
then
they
had
to
shut
down,
obviously
because
they
didn't
have
any
of
the
proper
permitting,
and
there
had
been
a
complaint.
Basically
that
you
know,
there's
no
way
to
know
that
they're
they're
up
to
code.
F
I
Any
of
the
food
that
they're
making,
but
at
the
same
time
that's
somebody
who
who's
really
trying
to
find
a
way
to
make
ends
meet.
They
ended
up
that
it
has
a
happier
story.
They
ended
up
buying
a
food
truck
and,
I
believe,
they're
doing
like
the
food
truck
permitting.
But
you
know
that's
something
where
if
we
could
have
made
that
step
easier
for
them
at
the
beginning
process
in
a
way
of
kind
of
having
a
way
to
do
that
kind
of
permitting
where
we
can
actually
monitor
that.
I
A
No
problem,
thank
you
yes,
and
I
also
really
do
appreciate
you
being
prepared
to
answer
those
type
of
questions
that
really
goes
to
show
just
what
a
type
of
operation
you're
running,
and
I
really
do
appreciate
you
showing
up
I'm
going
to.
I
don't
see
any
other
blue
hands
in
the
interest
of
making
sure
that
all
of
my
colleagues
are
up
to
speed
in
terms
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
why
we're
trying
to
do
it.
I'm
now
going
to
continue
with
our
panelists.
A
If
that
is
helpful
to
my
colleagues-
and
I
am
going
next
to
let
me
catch
up
here,
I'm
going
to
next-
where
am
I
I
know
you
have
a
you
have
to
leave
at
five
right
before
we
move
on
and
just
yes,
okay,
I'm
wondering
if
mike.
If
you
don't
mind,
if,
if
we
do,
we
have
one
two,
three
more
three
more
panelists
and
if
we
can
limit
each
of
your
comments
to
five
minutes
that
should
leave
us
a
little
bit
of
time.
A
I'm
sorry,
let
me
back
up
a
little
bit
because
things
got
a
little
bit
switched
up
with
this
last
minute,
so
people
got
to
leave
earlier.
So
I'm
wondering
if
any
of
my
colleagues
have
any
specific
questions
for
from
in
regards
to
this
particular
issue.
Before
we
move
on,
I
see
andrea
campbell
council
campbell.
You
not
have
the
floor.
G
My
only
comment
is,
if
you
could
submit
your
your
comments,
if
they're
written
to
us,
because
some
of
that
data
that
you're
referencing
is
such
good
data
not
just
applicable
for
this
hearing,
but
so
many
other
initiatives
around
supporting,
of
course,
businesses
of
color
and
just
appreciate,
and
continue
to
appreciate
your
leadership
with
respect
to
all
of
these
issues
and
the
reframing
of
how
we
talk
about
how
important
it
is
to
sustain
these
businesses
of
color
help
them
come
back
online
in
the
future
and
how
important
it
is
not
just
for
communities
of
color
but
for
the
entire
city.
A
Thank
you
and
if
you
didn't
type
them
up,
you're
going
to
have
to
now
type
them
up
and
if
you
spoke
to
me,
you're
going
to
have
to
type
all
that
up
and
actually
we
can
probably
transcribe
it
and
send
it
off.
But
I
think
that
you
know
we're
really
blessed
to
have
you
in
this
space
with
us
and
and
and
I
do
agree
with
council
campbell,
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
counselor
flynn.
I
see
you
have
your
hand
up.
H
Thank
you,
council,
mejia,
and
thank
you
shagoon
for
being
here
and
your
leadership.
I
just
basically
had
a
similar
question
to
counselor
campbell.
I
would
be
interested
in
knowing
from
any
of
your
studies
you
know
during
during
the
pandemic,
how
have?
H
How
have
the
financial
institutions,
how
of
the
banking
systems
been
in
in
lending
in
supporting
businesses
owned
by
women
or
businesses
owned
by
immigrants,
communities
of
color?
But
how
have
these
banking
institutes
institutions
been
in
terms
of
supporting
these
business
owners
during
this
difficult
time,
their
access
to
capital
to
sustain
a
business?
H
I
just
want
to
try
to
get
a
sense
of
that.
I
know.
Council
campbell
asked
similar
questions,
but
I'd
like
to
get
a
little
sense
of
of
of
what
these
banking
institutions
are
doing,
because,
if
they're
not
coming
to
the
table
to
support
these
small
business
owners,
you
know
they're
setting
these
business
owners
up
for
for
disaster.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
counselor
flynn,
that's
a
a
very
important
question
and-
and
I
appreciate
it
being
asked
here,
I
will
say
that
in
the
early
part
of
the
summer,
so
I
think
I
think
one
of
the
first
examples
to
say
show
how
banking
institutions
were
impacting
our
community
either
positively
or
negatively,
was
through
the
paycheck
protection
program.
D
In
the
first
round
you
had
to
have
a
commercial
banking
relationship
in
order
to
get
ppp,
which
is
why
we
saw
statistics
across
the
country
showing
that
90
percent
of
all
minority-owned
businesses
did
not
get
access
to
the
ppp,
because
when
it
comes
to
banks,
you
know
I'll
speak
for
the
black
community
that
when
it
comes
to
our
relationships
with
banks,
we
either
didn't
have
an
account
because
they
would
be
denied
loans
through
because
of
the
history
of
racism
in
the
country
and
through
banking
institutions,
or
we
are
very
wary
of
doing
business
with
banks
because
of
the
history
of
predatory
lending
on
our
communities,
particularly
in
home
ownership.
D
So
you
know
in
terms
of
what
they're
doing
now
beckma
itself
I'll
speak
for
us.
We
have
a
relationship
with
berkshire
bank,
where
very
where,
immediately
in
march
of
this
year,
we
established
something
called
the
futures
fund
which
extends
a
line
of
credit
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
for
referrals
from
beckham
to
the
institution.
That's
helped
to
save
a
number
of
our
business
members
close
to
a
million
dollars
has
has
been
used
up
for
that
program
in
terms
of
other
banks.
D
You
know
we're
we're
we're
hoping
that
other
banks
will
follow
the
lead
of
what
malia
lawsuit
did
at
berkshire
bank.
She
just
left
berkshire,
but
she
was
the
president
of
the
northeastern
region
and
one
of
the
other
programs
that
she
brought
in
was
the
friends
and
family
fund
which
establishes
different
terms
for
minority
businesses,
which
is
important,
because
many
of
us
don't
have
the
types
of
access
to
collateral
that
that
other
communities
have,
and
so
this
program
would
give
up
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
loans,
but
would
not
take
collateral.
D
They
would
take
community
referrals
and
feedback
and
other
forms
of
collateral
that
that
weren't
really
obtrusive
to
the
person.
So
we
would
love
to
see
banking
institutions
doing
a
little
bit
more,
not
only
in
terms
of
how
much
they're
giving
but
how
they're
giving
it
out,
because
that's
really
what's
going
to
impact
small
businesses
moving
forward.
So
to
the
other
part
of
your
question
too,
about
just
how
covert
has
impacted
immigrant
communities
and
communities
of
color.
What
I'll
do
is
with
my
testimony,
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
that
counselor
campbell
made.
D
I
will
attach
also
the
the
poll
that
we
did
with
mass
inc
I'll
attach
that
and
some
other
information
so
that
you
can
see
all
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
and
how
how
our
communities
are
being
impacted.
H
Yeah
that
would
that
would
be
great.
I
appreciate
that
counselor
michael,
I
don't
have
any
follow-up
questions,
but
but
those
types
of
comments
and
the
those
questions
is
of
what
I'd
be
looking
at,
so
I'd
be
looking
looking
forward
to
the
you
know,
getting
more
of
that
data
and
I
know
that'd
be
very
helpful
to
all
of
us.
So
thank
you
for
sponsoring
this
important
hearing.
A
Thank
you
thank
you
and
don't
go
yet.
We
still
have
a
few
more
folks.
So
hang
tight,
I'm
going
to
go
before
you
leave
sugar
and
I'm
going
to
ask
liz
tonight.
Counselor
breeden
has
her
hands
up,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
she
can
get
her
questions
in
before
you
go
counselor
breeden.
You
not
have
the
floor.
K
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
another
question
for
sir.
In
terms
of
you
know,
is
there
a
list
of
banks
that
are
more
friendly
to
these
small
businesses?
And
very
I
read
I
I
read
about
the
berkshire
point
banks
initiative.
K
You
know
so
many
of
these
businesses
are
people
of
color
immigrants,
people
who
are
trying
to
get
their
feet
and
that's
what
brings
so
much
vitality
and
and
and
diversity
to
our
neighborhoods,
it's
one
of
our
great
strengths
and
in
the
city
of
boston
that
we
have
so
much
diversity
in
this
particular
space
with
food
food
outlets
and
just
getting
people
off
the
ground
any
which
way
we
can.
K
So
is
there
a
list
of
banks
that
have
a
good
reputation
for
this
and
is
there
a
role
for
credit
unions
in
this
space.
D
Well,
thank
you
very
much
councillor
for
that
question
and
I'll
work
backwards.
So
absolutely
there
is
a
role
for
credit
unions
to
play.
I
would
love
to
speak
with
you
following
the
hearing
about
how
we
can
make
sure
that
credit
unions
are
involved
in
this
conversation
because
a
lot
of
the
times
you're
right.
It's
the
larger
banking
institutions
that
are
at
the
table
and
we're
not
including
credit
unions
in
terms
of
the
of
banks
that
are
that
are
doing
a
good
job.
D
I'm
sure
they
would
all
want
to
be
listed
by
their
cra
rating
based
on
how
well
they're
doing
in
our
communities.
But
you
know
it's
not
only
just
how
they're
doing
with
the
cra
that
that
will
show
what
relationships
they
actually
have
with,
particularly
with
businesses
owned
by
people
of
color,
but
small
businesses
in
general,
but
I'm
happy
to
put
together
a
list
of
banks
that
that
our
members
have
felt
comfortable
with
both
in
our
partnership
with
them,
but
also
just
you
know,
recommending
you
know.
D
These
are
banks
that
that
have
been
good.
To
me,
I
mean,
of
course,
we
all
know
eastern
bank
berkshire
bank,
cambridge
savings.
Rocklin
trust
has
reached
out
to
us
to
ensure
that
they're
doing
a
better
job
working
with
businesses
owned
by
people
of
color
citizens
bank
as
well.
But
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
there
is
no
bank
that
is
doing
great.
You
know
they
all
could
be
doing
better
and
should
be
doing
better
and
beyond
their
institutions.
D
They
ought
to
be
supporting
initiatives
by
the
city
of
boston,
like
their
grant
program
like
their
ppe
program,
to
ensure
that
not
just
loans
are
getting
to
our
community,
because
a
lot
of
us
can't
take
on
more
debt,
but
that
we
are
getting
grants
to
our
businesses
to
ensure
that
they're
able
to
survive
the
pandemic.
D
And
then,
of
course,
you
know
beyond
the
banks
back
when
we'll
continue
to
work
with
the
city
to
increase
the
contracting
numbers,
because
again
for
this
hearing
for
the
purposes
of
this
hearing,
ensuring
that
we're
driving
commerce
to
our
businesses
is
going
to
be
very
critically
important.
After
that
support
is
given.
K
A
follow-up
on
that
is
are:
are
you
folks
involved
with
the
small
business
bureau
from
the
at
the
federal
you
know?
Are
you
getting
any
support
from
that
that
direction.
D
Yes,
so
we
have
an
mlu
with
with
the
small
business
administration,
with
bob
nelson
nadine,
boone
and
others,
working
with
them
to
connect
our
businesses
to
different
resources
and
programs
that
they
put
on.
K
That's
all
for
now,
counseling
here.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
councillor
breeden,
I'm
just
sure
you
still
got
10
more
minutes,
so
you
can
hang
tight.
I
love
to
open
up
the
floor
to
some
of
our
other
panelists.
Just
in
case
you
know,
you're
inspired
to
say
a
few
more
remarks
before
you
go.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
now.
Next
to
on
the
list.
I'm
gonna
ask:
I'm
gonna
go
a
little
bit
out
of
order
here.
I'm
gonna
go
to
andre.
You
were
really
the
inspiration
behind
this
particular
hearing
order.
A
You
brought
it
to
us,
you
saw
a
need
and
has
you
have
led
the
charge
and
so
we'd
love
for
you
to
give
us
some
of
your
opening
remarks.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
that
and
I've
already
appreciated
and
enjoyed
the
discussion.
I've
heard
so
far
from
segun,
councillor,
braden
and
all
the
city
councilors.
So
thank
you
all
for
what
you
do
your
service
to
the
city
of
boston
and
to
commissioner
manning
and
natalya
as
well.
Thank
you
to
them.
I
know
they're
not
on,
but
my
name
is
andre
antazari.
I
am
a
city
planning
student
at
boston,
university,
a
staff
member
at
bu,
school
of
public
health,
and
I
also
manage
a
grassroots
campaign
advocating
for
boston
to
permit
retail
residential
kitchens.
E
So,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
what
residential
kitchens
are,
they
are
a
type
of
food
service
permit
designated
by
the
massachusetts
food
code
that
allows
individuals
to
prepare
certain
non-perishable
foods
from
their
home
kitchen,
which
are
referred
to
as
cottage
food
products
and
for
direct
sale
to
the
public
at
venues
such
as
farmers,
markets
and
other
direct
to
consumer
channels,
and
just
for
clarification,
I
know
there
was
some
confusion
on
what
residential
kitchens
are,
whether
or
not
so
residential
kitchens
are
not
don't
allow
producers
to
sell
at
wholesale
at
supermarkets.
E
E
So
there's
there's
just
some
clarity
as
to
what
it
is,
what
it's
not,
and
as
of
august
23
of
boston's
unemployment.
Claimants
came
from
food
preparation
jobs.
Some
of
these
unemployment
claims
would
be
alleviated
if
individuals
had
the
ability
to
use
their
home
kitchen
to
start
a
cottage
food
business
and
offers
people
that
are
currently
employed,
a
supplemental
income
to
their
current
job.
E
I
think
it's
important
to
note
also
that
cities
and
towns
across
massachusetts
already
permit
residential
kitchens,
including
watertown
newton
summerville,
and
as
of
last
week,
cambridge
city
council
has
begun
discussions
on
implementing
residential
kitchens
through
zoning
as
well
and
as
a
personal
story
as
a
cottage
food
entrepreneur,
myself
in
los
angeles,
I
took
up
a
hobby
of
making
a
cultural,
dried
fruit,
snack
called
lava
shack,
which
fits
into
the
cottage
food
category.
E
I
took
the
training
needed
to
be
a
certified
food
handler
applied
for
a
permit
and
was
ultimately
granted
one.
In
my
capacity
as
a
college
food
operator,
I
was
able
to
sell
my
product
at
farmers,
markets
and
pop
up
food
events
and
meet
a
diverse
array
of
people
in
this
community
and
over
the
past
year,
I've
been
working
with
the
sustainable
business
network
of
massachusetts,
other
local
food
organizations
and
dozens
of
potential
cottage
food
entrepreneurs,
many
of
whom
are
from
underrepresented
groups
in
boston
who
are
eager
to
start
a
college
food
business.
E
But
don't
have
the
mechanism
in
place
from
the
city
to
do
so
again.
Our
campaign
is
specifically
asking
for
this
committee
to
amend
boston
zoning
code,
article
2a
section
on
accessory
home
occupations
to
include
permitting
of
cottage
food
products,
regulated
by
massachusetts
food
code
and
develop
a
permitting
process
for
residential
kitchens
through
the
inspectional
services
division.
E
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that,
and
you
see
why
he's
the
leader
of
this
and
and
I'm
just
here
to
make
it
all
happen
behind
the
scenes,
but
I
really
do
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
put
into
this
to
get
us
this
far,
I'm
going
to
ask
in
the
interest
of
just
making
sure
that
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak.
I'm
gonna
ask
is
caitlin
with
us
from
the
director
of
policy
for
the
mayor's
office
of
economic
development.
Are
you
with
us?
A
I'm
gonna
move
on.
I
am
going
to
ask
irene
k.
M
Sure
so
my
name
is
irene
naca,
bon
gilda
good
day.
I
am
ugandan
american
and
I
moved
from
brookline
brighton
after
six,
seven
years
of
living
in
that
area
to
hyde
park.
So
I
live
in
hyde
park
now,
hi
sagoon,
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
and
andre.
M
You
and
I
have
exchanged
a
couple
of
tweets
council
council
mejia.
Forgive
me
this
is
my
first
time,
so
the
formalities
are
quite
exciting.
I
am
the
founder
of
mani
juices.
M
M
I
work
in
the
world
of
produce
leafy
green
vegetables,
who
are
actually
excluded
in
the
world
of
retail,
residential
kitchens,
and
so
dan
manning
had
a
really
good
question
about
contact
tracing.
M
I
would
actually
love
to
tell
share
with
him
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
doing
to
trace,
where
my
produce
are
going
and
also
as
I've
designed
my
process,
because
that's
actually
a
relatively
easy
thing
to
do.
But
I'm
really
here
because
the
barriers
to
entry
to
launching
a
juice
brand
here
in
the
city
of
boston
is
not
easy.
M
M
There's
a
number
of
us
who
are
in
the
space
who
are
making
juices
here
in
boston
and
we
need
the
support
of
the
city,
and
I
mean
we
appreciate
everything
that
this
committee
and
everybody
in
city
hall
is
doing
to
support
the
food
space.
M
M
We
had
all
of
that
before
covid
struck
and
then
it
struck
and
then
we've
been
hanging
out
at
home,
freaking
out,
just
like
everybody
else,
how
we're
going
to
pivot
and
now
the
lockdown
is
lifted
and
we
are
just
like
drowning.
So
I'm
here
to
ask
the
city
councilor
to
please:
please,
please,
please
borderline
begging
here.
Please
take
the
fruit
and
leafy
vegetables
out
of
the
prohibited
section,
because
I'm
happy
to
work
with
the
city
for
us
to
help.
Entrepreneurs
handle
the
food
safety
aspect.
M
M
I
bring
it
in.
I
instantly
put
it
in
the
refrigerator
I
instantly
x,
y
and
z.
It's
literally,
I
have
a
flow
chart
of
how
and
where
my
produce
is
coming
from
how
it's
being
handled
when
I
take
it
to
my
space
for
me
to
start
making
my
juices,
and
so
when
it
comes
to
that
barrier
of
and
that
challenge
about
leafy,
green
and
melons.
M
We
would
really
really
appreciate
the
council
to
really
consider
and
really
not
only
consider,
but
do
it
right
where
we
have
actually
juice
on
juice.
Businesses
have
the
opportunity
to
also
be
part
of
this
economy
and
also
not
only
just
pilot,
but
also
continue
building
on
the
amount
of
work
that
many,
many
many
black
and
latino
mind
you
where
all
women,
black
and
latino
women
have
made
such
strides
and
just
like,
really
launching
their
small
little
budding
ideas
and
really
watering
it
and
busting
butt
and
hauling
stuff
in
everything
that
you
can.
Think
of.
M
So
that's
where
I'm
coming
from,
I'm
really
honored
to
be
able
to
speak
to
the
committee
and
fellow
community
members,
but
also
it's
also
important
for
you
to
really
realize
that
there
are
a
number
of
black
and
brown
women
who
are
in
dorchester
matapan,
who
are
not
part
of
ayesha's
numbers
who
are
literally
we're
either
stuck
because
I
tell
my
legal
team,
my
leaver
team's,
like
irene.
We
want
you
to
do
this
legally
and
right.
Do
not
do
it
in
your
kitchen,
so
I'm
sitting
here
like
okay,
I
can
test.
I
can.
M
There's
this
big
thing
on
the
rest,
leafy
green
vegetables.
I
can't
do
them
in
my
kitchen,
so
that's
where
I'll
be
coming
from,
but
then
also
I'm
also
happy
to
work
with
the
city
to
create
some
of
these
safety
plans
or
show
you
how
I've
created
some
of
these
safety
plans
or
better
yet
implement
other
opportunities
where
food
and
these
food
and
beverage
entrepreneurs,
especially
juicers.
M
This
is
specifically
for
juicers
people
who
are
making
juices
can
actually
implement
safety
plans.
Contingency
plans,
for
example,
for
me,
I'm
thinking
of
adding
a
qr
code
on
my
label
so
that
if
a
person
buys
my
juice,
they
love
it.
They
can
tell
me
I
really
love
this
insta
on
my
blog
or
they
can
say,
hey
irene,
my
it
was
a
little
bit
acidic
and
that's
just
me
like
I'm,
like
oh
wow
cool.
M
I
think
this
is
one
way
I
can
actually
approach
the
quality
assurance
and
quality
safety,
and
I
know
that
this
is
something
that's
a
real
concern
for
the
council
and
for
the
city,
in
addition
to
our
community,
but,
most
importantly,
to
our
brands.
A
Thank
you
thank
you,
for
that
I
mean
I
really
do
appreciate
you
being
here
and
keeping
it
100.
There
are
a
lot
of
folks
right
now
who
are
operating
on
the
down
low
and
producing
a
lot
of
services,
and
that's
just
what
we
do
before
we
move
on
I'm
going
to
ask
shagun.
If
you
have
any
final
remarks
before
you
before
we
lose
you,
you
wanna
any
closing
remarks
before
you
go.
D
Yes,
you
know
first
hello,
irene
good
to
see
you
nice.
Thank
you
I'll
I'll
echo,
a
point
she
made
about
finding
space,
I
mean
I
was
looking
up
earlier:
rents
in
just
roxbury
alone,
for
retail
space
or
for
order
open
up
a
restaurant
or
anything
and
you're
looking
at
like
5
000
a
month
in
some
places
in
roxbury.
So
that's
that's
not
even
thinking
about
other
areas
where
it's
more
expensive
to
have
a
shop
there.
D
So
you
know
again
just
have
to
reiterate
the
the
fact
that
businesses
owned
by
people
of
color
are
helping
this
economy
here
in
boston
and
the
commonwealth
to
thrive.
These
businesses
employ
people,
so
you
know
these
kitchens
operating
out
of
someone's
home.
This
is
two
three
four
jobs.
This
isn't
just
the
person
living
there
who
are
making
these
products
or
delivering
these
services.
D
D
To
then
think
about
what
a
policy
would
look
like
to
make
this
available
again,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
earlier
comments,
we
disproportionately
are
represented
in
these
industries,
food,
retail,
etc,
and
so
there
may
be
many
who
either
have
not
been
recorded
by
you
know.
I
see
aisha's
here,
who's
doing
a
great
job,
and
so
you
know
not.
Everyone
complains
about
the
neighbor
and
reports
them.
D
So
there
may
be
many
more
who
are
operating
in
this
fashion,
but
there
will
be
many
more
operating
in
this
fashion
because
they're
not
getting
the
support
they
need
from
the
state
or
from
the
federal
government
and
will
not
be.
We
just
saw
that
president
trump
is
delaying
this,
this
relief
until
after
the
election,
so
there
are
going
to
be
many
more.
We
have
to
operate
in
this
way.
D
So
again,
just
would
urge
the
council
and
those
who
work
for
the
city
to
to
work
on
how
to
make
this
possible,
how
to
make
it
safe
and
effective
and
efficient
to
prepare
for
the
wave
of
businesses
that
are
going
to
have
to
operate
this
way
in
the
coming
months
and
years.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
joining
us.
We
really
do
appreciate
you
and
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
on
behalf
of
all
of
our
businesses
and
the
entire
commonwealth.
But,
more
importantly,
you
know
much
love
to
boston.
I
see
that
counselor
sabe
george,
you
have
your
hand
up
and
wanted
to
know.
If
you
had
a
comment,
a
question.
L
I
do
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
andre
and
irene
and
segun
for
being
with
us
and
sharing
their
experiences
and
information
with
us.
I
am
curious
about
the
role
of
commercial
kitchens,
cooperative
commercial
kitchens,
like
commonwealth
kitchen,
for
example,
and
other
facilities
like
that,
how
how
could
they
potentially
be
supportive
in
this
business
and
then
I'd
also
like
I
know
that
it
isn't
sort
of
the
theme
of
today's
hearing
but
to
understand
the
role
of
non-food
businesses
in
within
this
industry.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
So
I'm
not
sure.
If
andre
you
have
any
feedback,
I
can
give
you
some
context.
Counselor
sabi
george,
in
regards
to
non-residential
kitchen
businesses.
We
have
heard
from
folks
who
who
are
hair
stylist,
who
can't
afford
to
open
up
shop,
so
they're,
looking
for
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
open
up
literally
in
their
own
homes,
to
to
do
hair.
We've
also
heard
from
tailors.
A
You
know
people
who,
who
sew
and
fix
clothes
who
are
interested
in
opening
up
at
least
incubating
in
their
homes
and
ideally
getting
enough
revenue
eventually
to
open
up
a
brick
and
mortar
we've
heard
from
folks
who
are
who
are
doing
lip
balms,
you
know
and
and
or
nails
that
are
looking
to
do
nails
at
home.
A
So
it's
just
been
a
pretty
diverse
of
folks
who
are
interested
that
are
not
just
specifically
around
home
kitchens,
but
just
a
plethora
of
different
types
of
businesses
that
are
looking
to
incubate
and
what
we've
heard
is
because
of
the
zoning
and
because
from
what
we've
learned
so
far,
is
that
a
lot
of
folks
where
you
can
potentially
open
up
a
business
are
on
commercial
streets
like
major
arteries
like
washington,
street
dorchester
ab
like
if
you
have
a
residential
home,
that
is
in
one
of
these
major
streets,
they're
already
kind
of
set
up
for
a
commercial.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
question.
Counselor
sabi,
george,
from
what
I
understand
and
the
what
this
would
provide
is
the
potential
for
relieving
commissary
kitchen
commonwealth
kitchen
of
entrepreneurs,
especially
with
the
demand
that
they're
receiving
now
with
confined
quarters
of
the
ability
to
have
individuals
that
are
in
that
space
to
produce
potentially
hazardous
foods,
foods
that
are
above
the
requirements
of
residential
kitchens.
E
Those
would
still
be
able
to
operate
at
commonwealth
kitchen,
but
it
would
relieve
the
pressure
of
having
an
over
demand
of
cottage
food
producers,
producers
that
are
making
less
hazardous
foods
in
their
home
kitchen
at
those
shared
kitchen
spaces.
L
I
appreciate
that-
and
I
I
am
I
do
want
to
just
note
to
irene
that
I
am
drinking
my
juice
today
and
I
wish
I
were.
I
wish
I
were
drinking
your
juice
I
think,
hopefully
soon.
I
hope
I
hope
to
be
doing
that
soon
and
promoting
it
when
I
am
when
I
am
on
in
one
of
our
hearings
doing
that
I
appreciate
this
hearing.
Madam
chair.
I
think
that
it's
certainly
a
very
interesting
topic.
There's
a
you
know.
L
Certainly
some
concerns
around
the
health
and
safety
of
foods
that
are
produced
at
home
and
in
a
home
kitchen.
I
think
there
are
some
real
opportunities
for
us
to
support
our
entrepreneurs
here
in
the
city
of
boston
across
all
of
our
neighborhoods.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
and
I'll,
just
read,
while
we're
on
this
topic
of
commonwealth
kitchen
is
a
statement
that
jen
prepared
for
us
it
was.
I
was
going
to
read
it
during
public
testimony
but
figure
while
you're
still
here,
council
wasabi
george,
let
me
just
read
it
it's
at
home,
commonwealth
kitchen.
We
definitely
see
a
lot
of
food
businesses
coming
to
use
our
facilities
that
should
really
be
able
to
start
from
a
home
kitchen
and
scale
up
into
a
facility
like
ours,
especially
folks
doing
baked
goods
and
desserts.
A
Most
surrounding
municipalities
have
far
lighter
restrictions
on
these
types
of
retail
businesses,
which
must
be
permitted
by
the
local
health
department.
Fyi
retail
food
permits,
meaning
food
that
is
sold
directly
to
the
consumer.
Like
food
trucks,
restaurants,
caterers,
farmers,
markets,
vendors,
etc
are
issued
through
the
city
wholesale
permits,
meaning
food
that
is
sold
to
an
enter
into
the
military.
Oh,
my
god
that
word,
I
can't
pronounce
it
like
a
grocery
store
or
a
restaurant
and
then
sold
to
a
consumer
requires
a
state
dph
permit.
A
Isd's
concern
is
isd's.
Concern
is
safe
food
handling
during
production
and
maintaining
proper
temperature
controls
during
the
delivery
process.
To
be
sure,
food
is
safe
to
eat.
Not
all
products,
service
or
processes
should
be
allowed
to
be
produced
in
a
home
kitchen
like
frozen
dinners
but
baked
goods.
Hot
sauce
high
in
acid
and
small
scale,
catering
ready
to
eat
home
delivery
should
be
allowed
with
proper
training
and
record
keeping.
A
Thank
you
to
the
members
of
the
public
and
to
the
panelists
for
their
testimony
before.
Oh
that's
my
part.
So
basically
that
was
submitted
by
jen
from
commonwealth
kitchen
counselor
sabi
george.
Hopefully
you
find
those
remarks
helpful.
I'm
gonna
go
on
to
counselor
breeden
and
then
I
know
aisha.
A
You
were
not
set
up
to
my
lineup,
but
since
commissioner
irish
is
not
here
would
love
to
have
you
if
you're
free,
if
you
feel
comfortable
to
kind
of
share
a
few
remarks
with
us.
If
you
don't
mind,
and
I
mean,
if
you
do,
I
totally
understand
you
were
not
slated
to
speak,
but
you
always
got
something
dope
to
say
so.
Hopefully,
you'll
be
willing
to
chime
in
I'm
going
to
go
to
counselor
breeden,
and
I
also
want
to
recognize
that
we've
been
joined
by
councilor
bach
as
well,
so
council,
blee
breedon.
K
I
really
feel
that
that
permitting
home
kitchens
is
an
important
piece
of
the
puzzle,
but
I
also
feel
that
there's
probably
space
or
a
need
for
more
of
these
cooperative
commercial
kitchens
and-
and
one
big
concern
for
me
here
in
austin
brighton-
is
that
we
are
developing
so
much
of
our
space
that
was
formerly
light,
industrial,
which
would
have
been
an
affordable
low-cost
location
for
such
enterprises
is
those
those
spaces
in
our
neighborhood
and
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
sure
it's
happening
in
other
neighborhoods
across
the
city
that
those
spaces
are
being
bought
up
and
and
so
they're.
K
They
were
zoned
for
light
industry,
but
now
they
are
becoming
residential
up
more
upscale,
less
affordable
residential
spaces,
and
so
I
really
feel
that,
in
terms
of
we
need
to
look
at
the
zoning
code,
but
we
also
need
to
preserve
spaces
in
our
neighborhoods
for
light
light
industry
and
things
like
cooperative
kitchens
and
other
sort
of
facilities
in
our
neighborhood.
That
are
like
the
first
step
for
your
entrepreneurs
to
get
started
and
build
test
their
product
and
get
their
business
going
before
they
can
scale
up.
K
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
I
I
see
that
counselor
bach,
you
have
your
hands
up
and
you
now
have
the
floor.
F
Thank
you
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I
just
wanted
to
say,
madam
chair,
I'm
sorry
to
have
joined
late,
I'm
sorry
to
the
panelists
for
only
getting
some
of
your
testimony,
but
just
really
want
to
thank
you
for
holding
this
and
say
I
think
it's
a
hugely
important
topic
and
I
I
really
agree
there's
a
lot
of.
F
I
think
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
types
of
businesses
where
we
could
do
this
and
still
have
you
know
totally
reasonable
health
and
safety
measures,
and
I
wanted
to
just
say
that
I
did
some
research
in
a
prior
life
about
kind
of
the
history
of
zoning
and
as
councilor
mejia
knows,
we've
been
and
my
other
colleagues
we've
been
working
a
lot
on
fair
housing
zoning.
F
Only
precisely
because
a
lot
of
immigrants
and
people
of
color
had
home
businesses,
where
you
needed
to
have
right
this
commercial
space
on
the
ground
floor
and
then
a
house
above
it,
and
so
it
was
seen
as
what
happened
was
in
1917.
The
supreme
court
said
you
can't
zone
your
city
by
race
and
a
bunch
of
the
southern
cities
have
been
trying
to
do
that.
F
Like
saying
this
block
is
white,
this
block
is
black,
and
so
they
came
back
and
we
talk
a
lot
about
the
fact
that
one
of
the
strategies
was
single
family
zoning
and
saying,
oh,
if
you
can
only
live
here
if
you're
wealthy
enough
to
own
your
own
house,
but
another
piece
that
we
don't
always
talk
about,
was
that
actually
getting
rid
of
those
mixed-use
zones
and
going
to
commercial
residential
hard
split
was
also
strategy
on
those
fronts,
and
I
think
about
the
fact
I
live
on
a
residential
street.
F
His
he
was
a
hairdresser
ran
it
out
of
the
house
for
20
years
right
and
you
couldn't
have
a
salon
there
today,
and
so
I
just
think
it's
it's
really
important
to
remember
that
we
have
to
proceed
thinking
about
self
health
and
safety
and
all
kinds
of
reasonable
rules
and
and
community
buy-in
and
all
of
that.
But
I
think
we
have
to
have
this
history
in
mind
and
remember
that
that
with
it
in
mind,
you
know
there
are
real
equity
reasons
to
make
some
of
these
adjustments.
F
A
You,
the
historian
of
the
family,
kenzie
bach
people,
I'd
like
to
ask
my
my
dear
friends,
and
always
the
one
with
the
best,
a
response
rate
of
anything
that
we
need
across
the
entire
city.
There
has
not
been
one
constituent
situation
that
has
come
across
my
email,
my
facebook,
my
text
message
without
aisha
miller,
raising
her
hand
coming
to
the
rescue
literally
on
so
many
occasions
and
so
aisha.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
Although,
yes,
I
was
not
prepared
to
do
so.
However,
isd
inspectional
services,
as
you
know,
is
an
enforcement
agency
and
that's
what
we're
known
for,
but
we
we're
also
known
for
making
sure
we
assist
those
who
need
our
help
in
in
different
aspects
in
the
city.
So
I
am
very
grateful
for
you,
madam
chair,
bringing
this
to
the
forefront
we
have.
J
We
are
embarking
on
something
right
now
in
in
our
city
and
just
america
that
none
of
us
have
experienced
before,
and
we
have
to
find
ways
to
navigate
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
is
not
losing
out
in
this
time
irene.
I
can't
wait
to
drink
your
juice
by
the
way.
I'm
I'm
excited
for
that
and
andre.
Thank
you
for
your
advocacy
around
this
this
issue,
so
I'm
not
gonna,
say
much,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
here
and
bringing
this
to
us.
J
One
of
the
things
isd
is
our
mission
is
to
protect
the
life
safety
of
all
of
the
residents
in
the
city
of
boston.
In
doing
so,
there
are
things
that
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
look
at
before
anything
is
brought
to
fruition.
J
So,
madam
chair,
I
I
again
thank
you.
I
also
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
the
constituent
side,
my
colleague
assistant
commissioner
dan
manning,
who
again
is
the
assistant
commissioner
for
the
health
division,
is
eager
to
work
with
you
as
well
and
and
find
out
ways
we
can
think
outside
the
box,
not
as
shigun
stated
thinking
about
the
barriers,
but
how
we
can
just
work
through
those.
So
thank
you
again.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
administration
for
showing
up
and
being
all
in.
In
this
conversation,
I
really
do
appreciate
the
level
of
thought
and
and
and
actually
intentionality
about
how
do
we
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
from
the
small
businesses
to
your
department,
really
thinking
outside
of
the
the
barriers,
if
you
will
and
working
collectively,
to
bring
this
forward.
A
So
I
really
do
appreciate
mayor
walsh
for
his
early
support
and
in
in
being
engaged
in
this
conversation
and
making
sure
that
we're
all
having
the
same
conversation
so
that
we
can
move
our
constituents
forward
so
really
grateful
to
the
mayor.
For
that
I
would
love
now.
I
I
see,
and
you
all
know
any
hearing
that
I'm
hosting
you're
always
going
to
be.
You
know
all
over
the
map
here,
because
I
like
to
do
things
different
I'd
like
to
now.
I
I
have
a
few
questions
for
andre
and
irene.
A
A
My
first
question
is:
is
just
how
many
people
do
you
know
that
you
have
in
your
network
who
are
interested
in
this
type
of
permit,
and
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
your
experience,
applying
for
a
permit
to
be
certified
as
a
food
handler
in
los
angeles,
and
what
was
the
process
like
and
how
can
we
use
boston
as
an
example
to
make
it
better.
E
Sure,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
to
your
first
question.
I
have
a
similar
number
to
the
number
aisha
mentioned
about
20
to
22
people
that
I've
contacted
that
are
interested
in
cottage
food
operation,
but
can't
do
so
and
more
than
that,
I
have
a
list
sort
of
a
100,
100,
150
supporters
who
want
to
see
something
like
this
enacted
in
the
city
to
participate
and
to
buy
from
vendors
that
are
residential
kitchen
operators.
E
To
your
second
question
about
how
I
navigated
the
process,
it
was
really
happenstance.
I
didn't
really
want
to
get
into
this.
I
moved
from
los
angeles
to
boston,
hoping
to
pick
up
where
I
left
off
with
my
college
food
operation
there
and
then
I
found
out
the
city
didn't,
allow
it
and
that's
really,
where
my
advocacy
began.
I
reached
out
to
isd
that
they
said
this
is
not
something
that
they
allow.
E
They
said
this
is
a
zoning
issue
I
reached
out
to
zoning,
and
I
got
a
rigmarole
of
going
to
different
people
and
finding
out
that
no
one
had
the
answer,
a
concrete
answer
as
to
what
to
do
or
who
to
direct
me
to
so.
It
was
really
a
frustrating
process,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
talk
to
people
at
isd
in
zoning
that
says
this
is
not
something
based
on
the
current
boston
laws
that
can
be
allowed.
E
A
Absolutely
absolutely
it
gives
us
something
to
a
jumping
point
to
continue
not
just
only
advocating,
but
to
figure
out.
How
can
we
start
removing
those
barriers
I'm
going
to
go
next
to
irene?
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
your
experiences
when
it
comes
to
trying
to
start
a
brick
and
mortar
I'm
particularly
interested
when
it
comes
to
the
banking
aspects
that,
like
counselor
flynn
mentioned
earlier,.
M
So
with
monye,
I'm
still
in
my
super
early
stage.
Last
year
I
erupted
two
years
ago.
I
ruptured
my
achilles
tendon,
and
so
I
spent
the
fall
season
of
2018
learning
how
to
walk
again,
and
then
I
decided
to
learn
how
to
sell
in
the
process,
because
I
thought
I
was
going
to
do
a
kickstarter
campaign
to
raise
my
first
round
of
money
to
formulate
my
pro
my
my
juice
line,
but
then
in
interviewing
a
number
of
commercial
kitchens.
M
I
I
realized
that
I
actually
didn't
need
a
kickstarter
campaign
that
I
could
actually
build
my
brand
that
way,
and
it
was
when
I
got
into
mit
startup
spotlight
that,
in
addition
to
testing
so
yes,
I
was
making
this
in
my
home
and
I
was
having
people
over.
I
was
having
parties
and
people
were
coming
over
and
they
were
sampling
the
my
recipes
that
I've
been
creating
over
the
last
six
years.
So
this
isn't
something
that's
just
been
like
popped
up.
I've
been
working
on
this
for
a
hot
minute.
M
Long
and
short,
I
had
no
interest
in
brick
and
mortars,
but
what
I
am
interested
in
applying
for
grants
applying
for
grants
is
really
tough.
If
you
do
not
have
any
history
and
like
segun
mentioned,
if
you
don't
have
a
banking
relationship
with
a
commerce
bank.
Now
I
just
signed
up.
I
just
registered
my
business
money
with
the
secretary
of
state
and
everybody
now
is
telling
me.
M
Now
I've
only
applied
for
four
grants
and
I'm
getting
ready
to
apply
to
get
into
a
cohort
of
juice
entrepreneurs,
but
those
four
grants:
they're
they're
they're,
really
short
to
apply
to
to
write.
I'm
assuming
three
quarters
of
a
million
people
are
applying
for
them.
I'm
exaggerating
obviously,
but
like
everybody,
needs
money,
and
I
mean
where
who's
gonna
write
you
a
check
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
it's
not
gonna,
be
your
mom
or
dad
at
least
for
black
and
brown
families
they're,
simply
not
gonna.
M
Do
it
if
the
west,
when
they
don't
have
the
money,
I'm
sure
mom
and
dad
would
do
it
if
they
had
the
money.
But
let's
be
honest
here
right
we're
I'm
an
immigrant
right.
I've
worked
here
in
the
city
of
boston
for
a
very
long
time.
M
In
your
way,
you're
like
I
have
momentum,
I'm
going,
I'm
going
and
you're
really
excited
and
you're
connecting
with
customers
they're,
giving
you
feedback
they're
engaging
with
you
and
then
you
shortfall,
you
fall
short
rather
right
and
that
shortage
really
is
getting
into
a
space.
Now
for
me.
Over
this
last
few
weeks,
I've
been
walking
like
scratching
my
itty
bitty
brain.
Who
do
I
talk
to
here
in
hyde
park.
I
spoke
to
till
right
across
the
street
from
me.
I
spoke
to
janna
over
at
the
guild
and
she
had
this
wonderful
idea
irene.
M
Why
don't
you
just
knock
on
restaurants
that
are
going
down
and
see
if
you
can
connect
with
a
a
a
restaurant
owner,
a
group
and
so
guess
what
I
called
jim
solomon
I'm
like
jim?
I
need
your
help.
You
know
he
tried
to
get
me
into
a
temple
back
in
brookline
and
like
we're
scratching
our
brains,
and
it
is
extremely
hard
really
really
hard.
M
But
if
that's
not
the
case,
the
co-op
counselor
brendan
mentioned
is
a
really
really
really
great
idea,
because
it
has
potential
and
once
again
supporting
other,
mainly
women,
entrepreneurs
who
are
immigrants
who
are
working
one
job
or
maybe
you
know
chasing
their
own
dreams.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
for
that.
I
really
do
appreciate
your
thorough
answer
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
recognize
that
a
lot
of
immigrants
in
particular.
A
We
come
to
this
country
already
with
skills
talents
and
but
we
just
fall
short
because
we
don't
have
the
access
to
capital
or
the
know-how
that
we
have
a
lot
to
contribute,
and
I
think
that
this
can
also
help
close
that
wealth
gap
that
we
keep
talking
about.
If
we
create
opportunities
for
folks
to
be
able
to
have
thriving
businesses,
so
100
with
you
on
that,
I
would
love
to
in
the
interest
of
just
making
sure
that
we
we
do
have
some
public
testimony.
A
We
have
one
person
who's
already
in
the
room
in
the
zoom
with
us,
and
we
just
have
one
one.
Testimony
signed
up
one
public
testimony
nicola
is
here
and
so
I'd
love
to
open
up
the
floor
to
her,
and
then
I'd
like
to
give
each
of
my
counselor
colleagues
an
opportunity
just
to
have
some
closing
remarks
so
stand
by
for
that
nicola.
A
N
Okay,
great
thank
you,
council,
mejia
and
all
the
city
councillors.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
great,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
give
it
a
public
testimony.
I
want
to
appreciate
irene
as
an
entrepreneur
and
andre
as
an
entrepreneur
and
advocate
activist
and
advocate
to
bring
this
attention
to
to
you
all
and
the
community,
my
I'm
a
business
owner
for
25
years.
N
I
run
a
marketing
firm
that
focuses
on
sustainable
food
and
culture,
and
I
organize
seven
festivals,
a
year
of
which
three
of
them
before
them
have
been
in
the
top
festivals
in
boston.
The
you
must
have
heard
of
them.
N
One
is
the
boston,
local
food
festival,
which
is
new
england's
largest
one
day,
farmers
market
on
the
greenway,
the
largest
festival
on
the
greenway,
I'm
also
on
the
board
of
sustainable
business
network,
and
that
event
is
a
program
of
sbn,
and
I
also
organized
the
boston
jerk
fast,
and
I
appreciate
working
with
the
city
of
boston
in
permitting
and
the
the
fact
that
they're
at
the
table
here
in
terms
of
the
inspectional
services,
says
a
lot
and
and
they've
been
very
helpful.
I
think
sbn
is
the
greater
boston.
N
Local,
greater
boston
buy
local
group,
so
we
are
one
of
nine
organizations
statewide
that
works
directly
with
food
entrepreneurs,
farmers,
valuable
producers,
etc.
We
also
organize
a
b2b
event
at
northeastern
every
year
to
connect
food
businesses
with
suppliers
and
institutions
like
the
northeastern
university,
the
colleges,
the
convention
center,
etc,
and
each
of
those
two
key
food
events
reach
more
than
100
food
businesses
that
are
really
hustling
and
trying
to
connect
and
and
grow
and
increase
their
their
their
capacity
to
to
serve
food
to
the
community.
N
It
is
a
challenge
because
so
a
lot
of
these
entrepreneurs
or
some
people
call
street
food.
Vendors
are
seasonal
and
their
season
starts
in
march
and
ends
in
basically
october
and
the
the
revenue
that
they
make
supports
their
family
for
the
year.
So
can
you
imagine,
with
the
pandemic
that
we're
experiencing?
N
But
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
people
don't
have
access
and
and
why
don't
they
have
access
won
their
limited
access
because
of
commissaries.
The
commissaries
10,
like
commonwealth's
kitchen
who's,
doing
an
amazing
job
which
we
collaborate
with.
They
usually
have
people
who
are
year-round,
they're,
not
seasonal.
They
can't
support
the
seasonal.
The
demand
is
already
high
for
to
access
that.
N
So
it
is
a
barrier
to
a
financial
barrier
for
these
businesses
who
are
either
trying
to
start
and
grow
or
work
seasonally
and
do
very
well
and,
and
many
of
them
are
culturally
connected,
offer
culturally
connected
foods
and
so
review.
Reviewing
the
zoning
laws
also
is
something
very
important
I
live
in.
Cambridge.
Most
of
my
work
is
in
boston.
The
city
is
reviewing
other
zoning
tables
to
make
sure
that
it's
more
friendly
to
to
food
businesses,
especially
small
food
preparers.
N
The
the
law
ab626
is
a
micro
enterprise,
home
kitchen
law
that
was
signed
on
january
1st
to
2019,
and
it
was
designed
to
help
and
support
the
same
type
of
kitchens
that
we're
advocating,
for
there
are
some
criteria
that
would
help
and
I'm
sure
that
andre
might
have
shared
that
information,
but
we
can
at
least
look
at
some
models
like
that
and,
like
segun
mentioned
earlier,
let's
be
creative
and
let's
look
at
opportunities
instead
of
the
barriers
of
why
it
can't
happen,
and
let's
look
at
opportunities
to
see
what
we
can
make
happen.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
We
always
have
to
remain
hopeful
and
not
lead
with
being
helpless.
So
thank
you
for,
for
those
last,
the
last
lasting
words
of
wisdom.
I'm
going
to
now
share
a
a
public
testimony
that
was
submitted
via
email,
and
this
is
from
anna
leslie
who's.
The
director
of
the
austin
brighton
health
collaborative
who
wrote
residential
kitchen
permits
are
an
effective
and
affordable
way
to
expand
local
food
access
and
stimulate
a
local
economy.
The
austin
brighton
health
collaborative
operates
the
brighton
farmers
market.
A
We
frequently
have
neighborhood
food
food
austrians
inquiring
about
how
to
sell
their
product,
but
the
barriers
to
production
prevent
them
from
scaling.
Two
of
our
vendors
this
year,
cine,
coffee
and
homestead,
fresh
michael
greens,
are
brighton
residents.
Operating
small
businesses
that
are
trying
to
scale
at
home
permits
will
make
their
business
more
affordable
and
achievable
so
needless
to
say
that
there's
literally
an
appetite
for
this.
What
we
need
to
do
now
is
identify
ways
that
we
can
remove
these
systemically
systemic
barriers
that
prevent
people
from
thriving
in
these
businesses.
A
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
conversation
and,
more
importantly,
how
do
we
go
from
a
public
hearing
to
a
reality?
But
yes,
who
I
bet
you
that
was
counselor
breeding?
Who
did
that?
I'm
just
joking,
I'm
teasing
you
so
I
I'm
teasing
you.
I
would
like
to
just
I
seen
that
there
are
no
other
public
testimonies.
A
I
just
want
to
thank
again
the
the
panelists,
the
administration,
the
advocates
and
those
who
are
out
here
every
single
day,
pushing
us
to
think
outside
the
box
so
that
we
can
move
our
city
forward
and
I'd
like
to
just
mention
that
the
next
steps
for
us
is
to
bring
this
conversation
to
the
rest
of
the
council.
A
Give
a
recap
of
what
we
discussed
here
and
hopefully
we
will
follow
up
with
a
working
session
and
continue
to
figure
out
how
we
can
make
this
a
reality
from
what
I'm
hearing
there's
still
a
lot
of
red
tape.
If
you
will
that
we're
gonna
need
to
explore
and
figure
out
how
we
can
remove,
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
folks
are
able
to
operate
out
of
their
homes
successfully
and
safely.
A
So
without
any
further
ado,
I'm
not
gonna
hold
anyone
hostage.
I'd
like
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
participating
in
in
this
and
give
you
an
opportunity
for
any
closing
remarks
to
my
colleagues.
A
F
Remarks,
thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair.
No,
I
I
just
would
say
I
I
learned
so
much
just
even
in
the
last
40
minutes,
and
also
I've
been
receiving
a
huge
number
of
of
letters
and
communications
from
folks
about
this.
So
I
really
think
I
really
think
it's
it's
focusing
on
something
that
we
need
to
do
and
that
there's
a
real
appetite
for,
and
it
was
something
that
I
think
we
probably
needed
to
do
before
kovid,
but
obviously
covet
has
helped.
Helped
us
see
the
necessity
here.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
everyone.
Thank
you
to
all
the
panelists.
I've
really
enjoyed
today's
discussion.
I'm
excited
about
the
potential
to
really
move
this
forward.
If
we
all
work
together,
I
think
we
can
and
I
look
forward
to
the
working
session
whenever
that
happens.
Thank
you,
councilman
here.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
thank
you
again
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
next
steps,
andre
irene
nicola.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
being
here,
and
I
want
to
give
a
big
shout
out
to
my
policy
director
jacob
who
really
spearheaded
all
of
this
and
the
entire
city
council
staff
for
always
showing
up
and
doing
your
dual
diligence
to
make
sure
that
we
sound
and
look
good.
A
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
do
and
let
me
just
make
sure
that
I
say
this
right
because
apparently,
if
we
don't
it's
not
so
I
will
now
draw
this
hearing
to
a
close.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
and
we
look
forward
to
engaging
you
in
the
dialogue.
Thank
you,
bye.