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Docket #0983 - Hearing regarding planning to support our restaurants and bars
A
A
B
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
panelists
for
joining
us
today.
I
filed
this
hearing
order
after
a
conversation
with
michael
cerfa.
Who's
joining
us
today
from
select
oyster
and
which
is
a
business
on
newbury
street
in
my
district
michael
previously
was
involved
in
a
number
of
other
restaurants,
including
neptune,
oyster
and
grew
up
in
a
I
think.
B
A
cuban
family
in
miami
that's
been
chefs
for
generations
and
is
that
represents,
I
think,
the
kind
of
independent
proprietor
that
we
want
to
keep
in
our
restaurant
business
in
the
city,
and
he
and
I
discussed
the
concerns
that
we
all
have
about
keeping
our
local
restaurant
ecosystem,
making
sure
that
we
don't
have
lots
of
vacancies
that
get
turned
over
to
chains
in
this
crisis,
and
we
talked
about
the
ways
in
which
the
city
has
been
able
to
help
with
the
patio,
dining
and
a
number
of
kind
of
loosening
of
restrictions
and
thinking
about
as
we
go
into
the
winter
and
the
year
ahead
in
2021.
B
What
we
can
do
to
be
really
proactive
about
helping
this.
This
community
survive
over
the
coming
year
and
I
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
at
the
beginning
of
this
hearing
that
I
think
it's
obvious,
that
our
our
restaurants
are
independent
businesses.
They
need
another
significant
federal
package
of
support
and
that
it
frustrates
me
to
know
end
as
a
city
councilor
that
we're
not
able
to
sign
those
checks
at
the
city
level,
but
I
do
think
the
onus.
B
So
it's
not
to
say
that
any
of
the
things
we're
going
to
discuss
today
are
a
substitute
for
that
kind
of
fundamental
economic
aid.
But
I
think
that,
as
a
city,
we
can
still
look
at
all
the
pieces
that
we
have
and
really
think
about
how
we
can
help
on
the
margins.
So
the
types
of
things
that
I
certainly
am
hoping
to
hear
from
the
administration
today
is
about.
B
You
know
committing
to
a
a
long
outdoor
eating
schedule
for
next
year
and
committing
ahead
so
that
our
independent
proprietors
can
actually
spend
the
money
now
to
invest
in
the
infrastructure
they
need
for
that.
Knowing
it's
going
to
be
useful
that
we
can
really
plan
actively
on
pedestrianization.
B
This
is
in
my
district.
We've
had
open,
newbury
street
and
open
charles
street
in
the
past.
I'd
love
to
see
those
coming
back,
but
also
you
know
how
can
we
have
pedestrianization
events
in
all
of
our
main
streets
districts
around
the
city
in
every
neighborhood
and
think
about
those
as
a
way
to
drive
out
our
business?
B
I
know
in
mission
hill
we've
got
mission
hill
main
streets
already
planning
a
restaurant
week
for
october
thinking
about
how
how
we
can
really
actively
support
with
marketing
and
technical
assistance,
our
main
streets
districts
and
doing
lots
of
things
on
that
front
and
and
really
looking
at
how
we
have
a
four
season
boston
this
year.
So
I
think
about
the
winter
wonderland
we've
had
on
city
hall,
plaza
before
obviously
study
how
plaza's
dug
up
this
year.
B
Could
we
be
having
kind
of
outdoor
winter
fun
activities
scattered
around
the
city
that
would
help
draw
people
out
of
their
houses.
This
winter
give
people
an
opportunity
to
socialize
more
safely
in
the
public
health
crisis
and
again
drive
business
to
our
operators.
Love
to
see
us
doing
christmas
markets,
love
to
see
us
just
really
thinking
outside
of
the
box
here.
So
I
do
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
his
team
for
extending
outdoor
dining
to
december
1st.
B
I
think
that
was
a
good
step,
but
I
just
think
we
really
need
to
think
very
ambitiously
and
and
crucially
give
our
small
businesses
the
the
advanced
knowledge
that
they
need
to
really
plan
for
success
here.
So
that's
the
that's
the
goal
from
my
perspective,
and
I
also
know
that
we're
going
to
hear
today
in
our
first
panel
from
a
number
of
folks
who
may
have
other
ideas
I
haven't
said
here
and
that
that's
why
we've
invited
them
to
join
us.
So
thank
you
so
much
madam
chair
and
thank
you
to
everyone.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Counselor
block
buck,
I'm
going
to
change
your
name!
Sorry
about
that,
but
before
we
move
on
I'd
like
to
also
acknowledge
that
we
have
been
joined
by
two
other
colleagues,
counselor
flynn
from
district
two
and
counselor
ricardo
arroyo
from
district
five.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
keep
my
remarks
very
brief.
I
really
I'm
so
delighted
to
co-sponsor
this
hearing
today,
because
our
restaurants
and
our
bars
are
a
vital
part
of
our
local
economy
and
they
support
they
employ
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
employees
in
austin,
brighton.
C
Thousands,
maybe-
and
I
just
feel
that
anything
that
we
can
do
in
terms
of
thinking
outside
the
box
and
thinking
creatively
about
strategies
that
we
can
do
at
a
local
level
here
in
the
city
to
try
and
support
our
these
businesses
to
get
them
through
this
rough
patch
is,
is
invite
other
vital
importance.
C
I
agree
with
country
bach
that
this
really
demands
a
federal
response,
some
a
massive
injection
of
some
more
money
into
this
situation
to
try
and
keep
these
businesses
afloat,
but
in
the
meantime
we
have
to
try
and
work
locally
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
help,
and
I
welcome
thank
you
to
all
the
panelists
and
thank
you
to
the
administration
folks
for
joining
us
this
afternoon.
Thank
you.
A
D
You
see
me
thank
you,
councillor,
mejia
and,
of
course,
thank
you
to
the
makers
as
well
very
critical
topic.
It
continues
to
be
a
topic,
so
I
appreciate
being
able
to
to
listen
to
all
the
folks
who
have
decided
to
join
us
panelists
to
listen
to
your
ideas.
D
I
will
tell
you
some
of
my
questions,
for
the
administration
have
to
do
with
the
main
streets,
which
is
what
council
bach
was
bringing
up,
because
some
parts
of
my
district
do
not
have
a
main
streets
or
there
are
some
leadership
changes
going
on
there,
so
really
want
to
get
a
deeper
understanding
as
to
what
we're
doing
for
those
pockets
that
don't
have
coverage
or
don't
have
the
infrastructure
with
respect
to
recovery
and
support
for
their
small
businesses.
So,
thank
you
again
and
thank
you
to
the
makers
appreciate
it.
Thank.
A
E
Thank
you,
councillor,
mejia.
Thank
you
to
the
makers
of
this
important
hearing.
Thank
you
to
the
chair
for
organizing
this
and
to
the
the
panelists.
I
see.
I
see
bob
from
the
mass
restaurant
association,
the
critical
role
the
association
is
playing
during
this
pandemic.
E
When
I
think
of
a
restaurant
in
in
my
district,
you
know,
I
think,
of
I
think
of
the
bartender
I
think
of
the
the
waitress
and
the
the
small
business
owner,
and
you
know
for
a
lot
of
people.
That's
their
second
job,
that's
how
they
pay
that's,
how
they
pay
their
electric
bill,
that's
how
they
pay
their
gas
bill
or
put
food
in
their
table
for
their
kids.
E
Other
people,
it's
their
full-time
job
as
well,
but
my
district
especially
employs
literally
thousands
of
people
in
the
restaurant
business
and
their
their
family.
Their
these
restaurant
workers
are,
are
teachers
they're
active
in
the
pta?
They
were.
The
little
league
coaches
in
the
restaurant
owners
contribute
to
our
neighborhood
organizations
and
non-profits
as
well.
So
it's
more
than
just
getting
a
a
beer
and
a
hamburger
at
a
restaurant.
It's
you
know
they
play
a
critical
role
in
our
economy.
E
I
had
the
opportunity
as
a
kid
to
work
for
four
years
at
the
anthony's
pf4
restaurant
and
I
was
the
popover
boy
and
in
high
school
and
I
loved
the
job,
but
I
saw
the
waitresses
how
hard
they
worked
as
their
second
job,
putting
food
on
their
table
for
their
kids,
but
we're
in
a
recession
we're
in
a
pandemic,
and
we
need
to
think
outside
the
box
to
be
supportive
of
our
restaurants.
E
E
This
body
took
that
issue
on
and
there's
more
work
that
we
need
to
do,
but
I'm
also
as
counselor
bach
and
counselor
campbell
mentioned.
I
would
love
to
see
a
federal
assistance
program
for
the
restaurant
owners.
I'd
also
like
to
see
a
state
assistance
program
and
a
city
in
a
city
assistance
program
for
the
restaurant
owners
too,
whether
that
might
include
a
little
assistance
on
property
tax
and
making
sure
that
all
restaurants
stay
afloat,
get
them
back
up
off
the
off
the
ground.
E
That's
what
boston
is
all
about
when
you're
down
in
your
luck
and
you're
and
you're
on
the
ground,
it's
about
lending
a
helping
hand
and
the
restaurants
have
always
been
there
for
us.
So
it's
our
turn
to
be
there
for
the
restaurant,
so
thank
you
councilman
mejia,
and
to
the
makers
and
it's
good
to
see
so
many
of
the
panelists
that
I
know
very
well.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
flynn.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
we've
been
joined
by
councillor
o'malley,
I'm
gonna
move
we're
doing
opening
remarks
from
our
colleagues
counselor
mali,
so
the
next
in
line
is
counselor.
Arroyo
then
followed
by
you,
counselor
o'malley,
so
we'll
now
move
on
to
counselor
after
you
now
have
the
floor.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
in
advance
to
the
panelists
for
the
attention
that
they've
brought
to
this
issue
and
the
work
that
they're
doing
are
restaurants,
especially
in
my
district
in
roslindale,
mattapan
and
high
park,
but
especially
in
my
main
street
areas.
The
restaurants
serve
as
anchors,
but
beyond
that.
F
So
many
of
our
restaurants
and
our
small
businesses
that
have
been
impacted
by
this
pandemic
really
create
economic
anchors
for
black,
the
black
community
for
the
latino
community,
for
our
immigrants,
who
are
entrepreneurs
and
who
start
these
small
businesses
and
are
right
now
watching
so
much
of
what
they've
built
over
decades
go
out
the
door
and
it's
an
incredibly
heartbreaking
situation
on
a
personal
level,
but
from
a
policy
city
level.
F
And
so
I
also
echo
you
know:
councilor
campbell
councillor
bach
consular
braden
and
councillor
flynn
in
their
request
for
federal
funding
to
this
and
for
state
funding
to
this
issue,
because
it's
incredibly
necessary
and
if
we
don't
provide
some
kind
of
aid
and
some
kind
of
way
out
for
these
folks
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
an
economic
collapse
in
our
neighborhoods
that
is
going
to
be
beyond
just
losing
a
favorite
bar
or
favorite
restaurant.
It
has
these
ripple
effects
that
are
incredibly
devastating
and
spoke.
F
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor.
I
will
now
move
on
to
counselor
matt
o'malley
from
district
six.
You
now
have
the
floor.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
great
to
see
you
virtually.
This
obviously
is
an
incredibly
important
issue.
As
we
figure
out
ways,
we
as
a
body
can
support
our
small
businesses
amid
pandemic.
It
is
absolutely
crucial
that
we
use
every
tool
in
our
toolbox
to
do
just
that.
I've
been
proud
to
have
partnered
with
a
number.
G
I
think
every
counselor
signed
on
the
efforts,
particularly
with
councillor
flynn
and
flaherty,
as
it
relates
to
to
supporting
our
restaurants
and
these
predatory
third-party
delivery
fees,
which
have
really
had
a
negative
impact
us
for
so
many
small
businesses.
But,
moreover,
I'm
really
looking
for
ways
that,
as
the
weather
changes
as
it
gets
a
little
bit
cooler,
we
can
work
to
support
the
restrictions.
The
pub
the
common
sense,
in
my
opinion,
public
health
restrictions
that
limit
inside
dining
and
inside
eating.
G
G
Is
that
we
all
know,
government
often
moves
at
a
glacial
pace
and,
as
it
relates
to
many
restrictions
and
changes
in
policies
to
support
support
small
businesses,
we
actually
worked
very
quickly
in
many
ways,
as
it
relates
to
you
know,
perhaps
not
as
quickly
as
some
might
think,
but
as
you
think
about
ways
that
we
were
able
to
make
it
easier
for
restaurants
to
deliver
as
and
then
worked
with
our
state
legislature
delegation
to
make
sure
that
they
could
deliver
alcoholic
drinks
or
drinks
to
go.
G
So
I
do
appreciate
the
the
spirit
and
the
willingness
for
government
agencies
to
work
to
support
these
businesses.
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
many
restaurants
and
operators,
many
of
whom
I've
talked
to
in
my
district
for
ways
that
we
can
support
them.
Just
a
week
or
two
ago
I
sent
a
letter
to
the
administration
looking
at
ways
to
make
it
easier
and
some
grants
perhaps
available
for
outdoor
heaters
to
allow
for
outdoor
seating
to
be
extended
as
the
weather
gets
cooler.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work.
G
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
o'malley.
I
will
now
turn
the
conversation
over
to
our
first
panel.
We
will
hear
testimony
from
our
first
panel
and
then
we'll
have
my
colleagues
ask
their
questions
to
them
before
going
on
to
the
second
panel,
and
I
ask
our
panelists
to
please
keep
your
remarks
and
testimony
to
no
more
than
five
minutes,
because
if
you
don't,
you
will
be
muted
now,
I'm
just
chucking,
but
we
are
trying
to
keep
this
under
time.
A
So
if
you
could
keep
your
remarks
to
five
minutes,
I'm
going
to
have
my
colleague
jacob,
send
me
a
text
when
your
five
minutes
are
up,
so
I
am
going
to
move
on
to
our
first
panelist,
mr
luce.
You
now
have
the.
A
H
Okay,
I
assume
you
can
hear
me
now
so
what
I
will
say
is
I
appreciate
you
using
my
portuguese
heritage
pronunciation
of
my
last
name,
but
when
my
family
came
over
from
the
azores,
they
americanized
that's
what
bob
was
so
anyways
no
problem.
So
thanks
for
having
me
here,
look
I've
been
before
this
group
before
I've
indicated
how
devastating
it
is,
and
you
know
here
we
are
now
turning
a
new
page.
H
You
know
literally,
as
we
turn
the
seasons,
and
you
know
what
started
as
a
three-week
shutdown.
You
know
now
we're
we're
looking
down
the
the
barrel
of
winter
coming
up
upon
us
and
you
know
we
are
working
aggressively
to
try
and
figure
out
how
we
can
help
us.
The
restaurants,
make
it
through
this
seasonal
change.
I
do
think
we're.
You
know.
We've
done
a
number
of
things
collectively
to
sort
of
promote,
fall,
dining
and
outside
outside
dining.
As
well
and
again,
not
only
did
mayor
walsh
do
what
he's
done.
H
The
governor
has
actually
extended
the
order
for
premises
and
and
for
outdoor
activities
until
60
days
after
he
removes
the
emergency
order,
so
that
allows
everybody
to
sort
of
plan
for
how
do
we?
You
know,
if
there's
things
we
can
do
now
to
afford
to
be
able
to
do
outdoor
seating
on
the
other
side
of
winter
early
on,
we
can
plan
for
it.
I
think,
there's
you
know
a
couple
things
coming
up
from
a
timely
basis.
H
Right
now,
you
know,
and-
and
council
o'malley
just
spoke
about
this
before,
but
you
know,
there's
no
question
safety
is
important.
Safety
is
the
number
one
thing
for
any
operator.
H
So
let's,
let's
start
with
that
premise,
but
I
think
there's
some
things
that
we
can
hopefully
work
with
the
fire
department
on,
so
that
operators
can
get
these
tents
heated,
that
we
can
deal
with
them
as
we
close
flaps,
not
as
an
indoor
structure.
H
So
I
know
there's
been
some
conversations
with
the
licensing
group
and
and
the
fire
department
on
this.
We
need
to
have
those
continued
conversations.
I
think,
there's
opportunities,
we've
closed
streets
in
the
summer.
Why
can't
we
close
them
in
the
winter
and
the
reality?
Is
you
know?
H
Let's
face
it,
we
you
know
it's
not
like
we're
pushing
traffic
out
of
the
streets
these
at
this
point,
and
so
I
think
you
know
we
can
look
at
how
we
can
get
creative
we're
going
to
come
out
with
and
try
and
promote
a
byob
thought
process
and
bring
your
own
blanket.
You
know,
I
think
it's
it.
It
plays
a
long
ways
and
I
think
the
guest
has
shown
they
will
be
accommodating
for
weather.
H
So
I
think
they're
going
to
give
us
some
leeway
here
as
it
gets
a
little
cooler
september
early
october,
usually
are
pretty
good
months.
We've
seen
that
next
couple
days
are
going
to
rain,
that's
not
going
to
be
good,
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
try
and
ease
it
and
get
it
inside
the
four
walls
of
tents
and
extend
that
as
far
as
possible
is
important
when
we
go
inside,
I
think
we
need
to
stop
promoting
the
fact
it
is
safe
and
the
governor
actually
just
did
this
on
the
on
his
conference
just
now.
H
But
you
know
anytime
that
I've
spoken
to
people
when
they
go
inside.
They
come
away
and
say
wow
you're
doing
a
great
job
with
protocols
you're
it
is
very
safe
and
I
think
it
really
should
be
noted.
Restaurants
have
been
open
since
june.
8Th
they've
been
open
indoors
since
june
22nd
and
not
one
single
spread
has
been
tied
to
restaurants,
and
so
we
need
to
start
talking
about
that.
Make
sure
people
understand
it
is
really
safe
to
come
into
a
restaurant
and
the
protocols
are
being
taken
very
very
seriously.
H
So
the
other
thing
is,
we
got
right,
license
renewal
process
coming
up,
it
is
expensive.
We
have
problems
in
that
some
restaurants,
our
bars
and
event,
spaces
haven't
even
reopened
at
all
and
so
to
tie
up
large
sums
of
money
on
license
renewals,
especially
with
liquor,
liability,
insurance
and
workers.
H
Comp
costs,
if
I'm
not
even
open,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
work
with
that,
and
so
any
help
that
the
state
city
can
give
us
to
that
point
I
think,
is
really
important
for
restaurants,
but
you
know
the
there's
a
very
resilient
community
out
there
that
you
know
we've
lost
a
lot
of
players.
H
The
ones
that
are
there
are
are
really
trying
to
reinvent
themselves
every
day,
and
you
know
we
gotta
work
together
to
make
sure
that
we
get
them
over
to
the
other
side.
Here.
A
For
that
good
job,
good
job
to
your
team,
you
did
five
minutes
and
like
probably
10
seconds
over,
so
the
next
speaker
is
going
to
have
to
make
up.
For
that.
You
know.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
testimony.
We
really
do
appreciate
it.
I
am
going
to
move
on
to
michael
serpa.
You
now
have
the
floor
and
wait.
Let
me
start
the
timer
here
you
are
set
to
start
okay.
You
now
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
you
to
the
city
council,
councilor
bach,
obviously,
as
well
kind
of
put
this
together,
bob,
obviously
from
mra
hit
on
a
lot
of
the
main
points
there
and
a
lot
of
the
concerns
of
restaurant
tours
and
operators,
and
we
have
going
on
you
know
the
city
has
done
great
stuff
to
help
us
out
already
and
as
one
of
the
other
councils
mentioned
in
you
know
overnight,
essentially
getting
together
with
department
of
transportation
and
licensing
board,
and
all
that
stuff
patios
have
been
one
of
the
hugest
helps.
I
I
think
people
are
very,
very
hesitant
to
be
dying
inside
at
the
moment.
So
the
patios
is
something
we're
saying:
okay,
we
can
we
can
survive
if
we
can
operate
with
that.
That's
a
big
help,
as
I
mentioned
the
council
bach,
that's
something
we
want
to
have
a
little
bit
more
clarity
on
if
we
can
continue
that
next
year,
to
kind
of
help
dig
out
as
a
whole
and
obviously
the
city
and
state
have
been
helpful
with
that,
extending
that
as
long
as
we
can,
but
really
obviously
it's
a
federal
issue.
I
The
city
can't
fund
what
we
need,
pushing
the
federal
government
to
extend
that
and
give
us
a
little
bit.
More
assistance
is
really
what
we're
we're
we're
needing
at
this
point
in
such
a
large
industry,
but
I
think
that
starts
with
with
you
know
the
city
doing
whatever
the
city
can
pushing
the
state
to
get
the
state
to
do
what
the
state
can
and
the
state
pushing
the
federal.
You
know
pushing
up,
saying:
hey,
we
need
to
make
noise
and
see
you
know.
I
What's
going
on
so
the
you
know,
state
items
that,
like
that
we
can
address.
Obviously,
mr
lutz
from
mra
said
state
citywide,
reforming
the
liquor
license
renewal
stuff
that
stuff's
coming
up
in
the
next
couple
weeks.
You
know
many
places
aren't
even
open.
So
that's
a
challenge.
That's
a
big
money
thing,
statewide
meals,
tax
is
is
a
major
item.
You
know
either
forgiveness
on
meals,
tax,
freezing
meals,
tax,
come
forward
full
season,
that's
something
where
you're
saying:
okay,
meals,
taxes-
maybe
maybe
that's
your
rent.
I
Maybe
that's
your
rent
that
you
can
cover
another
month
and
you
can
stay
open
and
you
can
make
it
to
the
end
of
pandemic,
but
people
are
are
now
making
a
decision.
Do
I
pay
the
meals
tax
or
not
paying
meals
tax?
I
I
think
that's
something
where
we
could
figure
it
out
in
a
different
manner,
to
give
the
people
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
and
give
them
a
little
bit
of
air
to
you
know,
maybe
keep
somebody
employed.
Keep
payroll
make
payroll
make
rent.
I
The
whole
thing
is
that
independent
restaurants,
independent
operators
are,
are
really
really
struggling,
be
it
you're,
small
but
you're,
a
medium
sized.
I
don't
think
there's
any
independents
that
are
necessarily
big
comparatively,
but
the
mom
and
pop
shop,
the
the
pizza
shop,
the
mexican
restaurant,
the
nigerian
restaurant.
You
know
the
colombian
place
whatever
it
might
be.
Those
are
the
places
that
are
really
really
going
to
struggle.
I
Where
you're
saying
I
put
you
know,
I
put
everything
I
have
into
this
pizza
place
and
I'm
you
know
trying
to
figure
it
out
trying
to
cover
my
rent
and
you
just
at
some
point.
You
just
can't
make
it
and
there's
no
more
money
and
there's
no
more
backing
and
you've
already
used
every
federal
help
you
can
so.
I
think
that's
something
where
the
more
the
city
can
do
to
push
the
state.
The
more
the
state
can
do
to
push
the
federal,
that's
really
what
we
need
federal
ppp
and
the
eid
loans.
I
Those
were
designed
for
six
weeks
and
we're
talking
about
a
year
here.
This
is
you
know
we
close
march
15th
with
no
idea
how
long
we're
going
to
close
and
if
we're
open,
full
speed
ahead
on
march
15th,
I'm
gonna
be
shocked,
so
you
know
we
really
really
need
that
help.
We
need
whatever
we
can
get
from
the
city
property
taxes,
something
big
on
landlords.
If
we
want
to
do
rent
forgiveness,
you
know
they
need
also
property
tax
forgiveness
and
you
know
other
help
there,
indoor
dining
outdoor
dining.
The
extension
is
great.
I
Obviously,
everyone
knows
that
boston
is
very
cold
in
the
winter,
whatever
we
can
do
to
promote
indoor
dining
being
safe,
you
know
if
we
feel
safe
and
then
outdoor
dining
relief,
whatever
we
can
do
there,
but
really
next
year.
I
think,
is
the
big
issue.
If
you
can
make
it
to
the
next
year,
how
we
can
do
that
and
having
a
clear
picture
forward
for
an
operator,
but
really,
I
think
the
city
has
been
doing
really
really
tremendous
things
for
us.
We're
very,
very
grateful
about
it.
I
We're
saying
wow
the
city's
like
on
the
fly
just
allowing
us
to
do
a
lot
of
things
that
we
normally
weren't
able
to
do,
and
people
are
getting
used
to
that
stuff,
so
we're
trying
to
get
a
little
bit
more
clarity
going
forward.
Hopefully
we
can
continue
that
stuff,
but
you
know
thank
you
guys
for
all
your
help
with
that.
So
far,.
A
Thank
you
wow,
I'm
sure
counselor
bach
prepped
you
both
because
you
are
well
within
the
time
frame.
Thank
you,
michael
really,
do
appreciate
your
testimony
and
and
your
timeliness.
Thank
you.
So
I'm
gonna
move
on
now
to
ginger.
You
now
have
the
floor.
Ginger
brown.
You
now
have
the
floor.
J
Hi,
thank
you.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
I
agree
with
matt
o'malley.
You
mentioned
how
quickly
the
council
moved
the
city
moved
to
approve
licensing
and
permitting
that
as
someone
who
has
opened
a
restaurant
in
this
city,
the
processes
at
isd,
the
fire
department
with
licensing
the
licensing
board,
the
they
will,
those
are
time,
intensive
processes
which
will
try
the
most
patient
of
souls.
J
So
I
want
to
thank
the
city,
the
count
city
council,
for
having
made
that
much
easier
and
much
faster.
I
do
think
it
made
a
huge
difference.
I
think,
in
terms
of
what
the
businesses
in
my
district
need.
There
are
things
that
are
costing
them
money
right
now,
which
is
more
than
it
normally
would,
and
then
there
are
ways
that
they
need
to
make
more
money
things
that
are
costing
money,
for
example,
are
the
delivery
fees
which
I'm
glad
to
hear
are
still
on
the
radar
there's
also
the
credit
card
fees.
J
More
people
are
using
credit
cards
now
than
ever
before,
and
that
is
a
bigger
chunk
of
change
out
of
the
business
owner's
pocket.
I
don't
know
that.
That's
something
you
can
address
on
the
local
level,
but
it
is
one
more
thing
that
the
restaurants
are
dealing
with.
Also
the
cost
of
buying
everything
that
they
might
have
needed
for
outdoor
seating
or
even
the
precautions
they
have
to
take
inside.
J
That's
an
additional
cost
that
they
were
not
able
to
budget
for,
and
then
they
just
went
through
a
long
period
of
not
being
open.
So
this
money
they
had
to
pull
out
of
their
pocket.
Somehow
perhaps
it
was
alone
etc.
It
would
be
a
real
shame
that
the
money
they
put
into
doing
all
of
that
only
lasted
them
until
december
1st
if
it
ends
up
being
furniture,
furnishings
barriers,
etc
that
they
can
never
reuse
again,
it's
a
huge
loss
to
that
business.
J
The
other
thing
businesses
need
is
ways
to
make
money
and
put
bluntly
more
customers.
We
need
more
customers,
so
my
district
did
a
survey
right
as
reopening
was
beginning,
and
I
was
very
shocked
to
discover
that
a
lot
of
residents
are
just
waiting
for
a
vaccine.
They
just
want
to
know
that
it's
absolutely
safe
before
they
will
go
back
out
and
they're,
taking
advantage
of
things
like
delivery
or
takeout,
but
they
do
not
feel
safe
going
back
out
into
the
community.
J
So
I
think,
if
there's
a
city
for
a
way
for
the
city,
to
take
the
temperature
so
to
speak
of
the
residents
and
find
out
what
it
will
be,
that
makes
them
feel
safe
enough
to
go
back
out
to
our
businesses,
and
that
would
be
helpful
because
we've
already
learned
that
our
businesses
are
creative
and
innovative
and
that
they
can
change
to
meet
the
demand.
But
if
they
have
no
idea
what
this
demand
is
they're
not
going
to
know
what
they
can
offer
their
customers.
J
All
they
have
to
rely
on
is
everything
that
they've
been
doing
before
so
along
those
lines,
we
can
also
have
campaigns
encouraging
people
to
go
back
out,
as
fabulous
was
just
saying
like
we
need
to
convince
people.
It's
okay
to
go
back
out
there.
So
if
there's
something
the
city
can
do
that,
particularly
around
holiday
time,
I
know
that
the
mayor's
enchanted
trolley
tour
may
be
cancelled,
but
maybe
there's
something
alternative.
We
can
do
that
convinces
people
to
go
back
out
to
our
businesses
it's
going
to
be
safe.
J
A
Okay,
ginger
fighting
spirit
there
and
you
have
a
minute
left.
So
I
really
do
appreciate
you
yielding
your
time
and
letting
new
york
know
that
they're
not
going
to
beat
us.
I
appreciate
that
I'm
going
to
now
ask
jay
walsh
to
share
with
us
your
testimony
and
again
you
have
five
minutes,
but
if
you
want
to
go
over,
you
can
utilize
the
time
that
ginger
left.
How
about
that.
K
Trust
me
I'll
be
I'll,
be
selling
my
remainder
of
time,
because
I
know
I
won't
use
it,
but
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
counselor
park
and
council
of
flynn,
both
of
whom
have
a
piece
of
the
area
that
the
downtown
north
association
makes
up,
which
is
predominantly
in
the
north
station
and
west
end.
So
we
have
the
benefit
of
being
located
right
within
walking
distance
to
the
td
garden,
but
result
we
also
have
been
victims
of
the
lack
of
events
there.
K
You
know
we
have
the
benefit
of
having
our
population
grow
by
tens
of
thousands
a
day
of
folks
coming
through
north
station
commuting
to
to
work
from
north
of
the
city
and
also
the
260
some
odd
days
that
the
garden
has
events
we've
seen
you
know,
folks
come
and
enjoy
a
lot
of
the
the
local
establishments
pre
and
post
event
of
the
garden.
That
being
said,
I
think
we've
seen
a
lot
of
folks
that
have
had
to
change
on
the
fly.
K
Their
whole
business
model
was
kind
of
thrown
into
disarray,
and
a
lot
of
them
had
to
kind
of
adjust
to
the
to
the
new
normal.
With
with
the
pandemic-
and
I
think
the
utilization
of
outdoor
space
has
been
a
godsend,
the
folks
in
the
city
that
we
worked
with
were
amazing
and
their
readiness
to
to
get
folks
what
they
needed
in
terms
of
getting
them
approved
for
what
they
could
and
couldn't
do
and
telling
them
the
protocols
and
to
set
that
up.
K
That's
something
that
we
hope
continues,
and
I
agree
with
that
with
ginger,
let's
beat
new
york
to
that,
and
and
do
it
as
quickly
as
humanly
possible.
My
background
is,
is
is
before
this.
I
was
in
government,
so
I
know
that
you
know
the
you
know
the
process
is
is
timely
and
it's
in
it's
it's
involving
a
lot
of
different.
K
You
know
constituencies,
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
have
had
the
benefit
of-
I
don't
know-
counselor
bach
mentioned
newbury
street
and
others
that
that
they've
they've
closed
for
open
newbery,
but
we've
done
the
same
thing
on
canal
street.
We've
done
it
tied
to
events
at
the
garden,
whether
it
was
a
country
concert
or
before
the
bruins
playoff
run
last
season.
We
saw
that
you
know
our
public
spaces
can
be
utilized
for
pedestrians
in
a
positive
way.
K
So
we
hope
that
we
can
continue
that
no,
no,
not
only
on
canal
street
but
adjacent
streets
such
as
portland
friend,
valencia,
et
cetera,
and
and
expand
that
so
we
know
that
we
do
have
partners
in
the
city
that
are
going
to
be
on
the
the
next
panel
that
you
know
agree
with
that
approach,
but
we're
hoping
that
it
continues
and
that
we
can
expand
it
and
get
more
people
involved.
K
They
think
that's
information
that
needs
to
get
out
to
the
public,
so
they
understand
that
it
is
safe
for
them
to
go
because,
as
everyone
knows,
there
is
a
lot
of
misinformation
coming
from
the
folks
at
the
national
level
and
a
lot
of
stuff
on
social
media
and
others
that
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
folks
are
confused
myself
included.
So
I
will
say
that
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
you
know
to
join
in.
K
We
appreciate
all
the
help
that
we've
been
given
so
far
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
folks
as
we
go
forward
and
hopefully
get
back
to
a
new
normal
soon.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
you're
right,
you
saved
a
dollar
and
52
cents
that
time
great
job.
I
am
going
to
move
on.
Thank
you
for
your
remarks
really
do
appreciate
it.
I'm
going
to
be
moving
on
to
dug
bacon
bacon,
and
this
is
as
easy
as
you
spell
it.
You
not
have
the
floor
and
correct
me
if
I
misspelt
it.
M
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
thank
you
to
everyone
on
this
call.
Just
a
very
brief
introduction.
30
years
ago
I
was
bartending
and
I
scraped
together
a
little
money
for
a
down
payment,
and
I
bought
a
little
neighborhood
bar
in
oak
square.
That
is
now
operating
and
called
the
last
drop,
and
I
still
own
it,
and
in
the
last
30
years
I
have
expanded
and
added
more
locations,
and
I
now
own
eight
locations,
three
in
allston,
two
in
brighton,
one
in
each
in
the
back
bay,
kenmore
or
fenway
neighborhoods.
M
M
M
M
Should
I
pay
to
store
it
all
winter
if
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
it
again,
so
that
would
be
super
helpful.
It's
been
mentioned
by
others
before
some
of
the
other
things
that
the
city
of
boston
can
do
or
could
do
or
look
at
are
some
flexibility
on
permit
renewals,
license
fees
and
taxes
are
some
of
the
highest
expenses.
We
have
my
smallest
location,
which
is
just
a
little
neighborhood
bar
in
brighton,
pays
annually,
five
thousand
dollars
in
license
fees
and
six
thousand
dollars
in
taxes
annually.
M
So,
even
though
I'm
closed
it's
about
two
hundred
dollars
a
week
just
to
keep
up
with
those
expenses
and
the
license
fees
are
going
to
come
due
in
november
if
the
city
could
come
up
with
a
way
to
either
defer
or
discount
or
provide
grants
to
help
with
the
license
fees.
That
would
be
super
helpful,
we're
all
concerned
about
getting
through
the
license
renewal
process
and
keeping
our
businesses
able
to
reopen
when
this
pandemic
passes,
and
hopefully
the
day
will
come
soon
next
year.
M
If
we
don't
have
a
space
to
do
business
and
our
landlords
default
our
leases,
we
won't
be
able
to
reopen,
and
if
we
don't
have
a
liquor
license,
we
won't
be
able
to
reopen.
So
those
things
are
possibly
the
most
important
I
have
other.
Oh.
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
ask
is:
I
have
been
calling
myself
to
representative
presley
representative
kennedy,
senator
warren
and
senator
markey.
We
need
another
stimulus
program
from
washington
dc
and
the
restaurant
association
has
been
getting
our
message
out.
M
A
Thank
you,
so
much
really
do
appreciate
your
advocacy
and
you
were
right
within
the
five
minute
mark.
So
thank
you
so
much
good
job,
yes
and
I'm
curious
about
the
dude
steve
was
is
is
not
on
the
list
right.
He
was
just
someone
that
you
wanted
to
let
in
counselor
bach
just
curious
about.
B
I
think
he's
here
with
mr
luz,
so
I
don't
know
if
bob
he
was
just
gonna
kind
of
support
you
or
if
steve,
had
separate
remarks.
H
No,
he
is
here
and
to
help
support
me.
But,
more
importantly,
there
is
a
national
call
that
I
have
to
jump
on
at
four
o'clock
and
so
he'll
be
here
in
my
stead
to
answer
anything,
any
questions
that
come
up
and
I'll
come
back
if
you're
still
on
okay,.
A
And
his
real
name
is
steve
mark
clark,
not
the
dude
as
he
wanted
to
be
called.
This
is
a
formal
hearing,
mr
lewis.
We
have
to
have
some
rule
in
order
here,
and
I
just
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
we've
been
joined
by
my
colleague,
counselor
asabi
george.
N
You,
madam
chair,
just
hello,
everyone,
sorry
to
be
tuning
in
late.
I
will
make
sure
to
review
what
I've
missed
in
my
absence.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
A
A
B
Thank
you
so
much
councillor
mejia
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
highlight.
I
definitely
heard
your
point
of
mr
luz
about
the
the
sort
of
needing
to
work
with
our
fire
department
to
be
creative
about
tents
and
heaters,
and
I
know
that's
something.
B
I've
been
hearing
a
lot
and
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
cities
to
our
north
when
you
think
about
quebec
city
toronto,
montreal,
where
you've
got
you
know
a
canadian
government,
that's
very
interested
in
safety
and
fire
safety,
and
yet
that
has
managed
to
kind
of
have
those
more
more
durable
spaces
for
restaurants
outside
in
cold
weather.
So
I
just
appreciated
that
point.
I
think
it's
something
we
should
raise
with
the
administration
in
the
next
panel.
I
guess
the
one
question
I'll
raise
kind
of
across
the
board.
B
I
know
michael,
it
might
make
sense
for
you
to
speak
to
a
little
bit
and
ginger
and
bob
if
you,
if
you
like,
is
just
and
actually
jay
as
well,
who
mentioned
canal
street,
just
the
whether
whether
you
think
that
pedestrianization
like
closing
streets,
even
in
the
winter
for
some
kind
of
you,
know
holiday
market
christmas
market.
I
think
about.
I
lived
in
england
for
a
while,
and
these
used
to
happen
around
december,
something
that
would
give
an
opportunity
for
some
outdoor
retail
and
restaurant
thing.
B
H
H
Last
winter
I
happened
to
eat
outside
in
an
igloo
down
in
newport,
rhode,
island
and
each
time
I
was
with
about
once
it
was
a
party
of
six
once
it
was
a
party
of
eight
and
it
was
a
really
cool
experience
on
one
of
the
nights
was
actually
lightly
snowing
out.
It
was
a
terrific
time
we
had
a
great
a
great
time,
and
you
know
eight
with
our
jackets
on.
H
You
know
it's
a
little
bit
different,
but
you
know
what
I
I
think
the
guests
you
know
in
the
years
gone
past
during
the
summertime
for
patios,
if
it
was
82
degrees
and
even
a
hint
of
humidity,
the
guests
would
say
I'll
eat.
Inside
this
year
we
found
that
at
94
degrees
in
humidity,
you're,
like
hey,
it's
a
beautiful
day
I'll
eat
outside.
H
So
I
think,
on
the
flip
side,
they're
going
to
feel
that
same
resiliency
when
that,
when
the
cooler
weather
is
upon
us-
and
it
provides
us
that
opportunity-
so
I
do
think
that
there's
a
possibility
there
and
again
it's
not
like
we're
going
to
be
causing
major
traffic
jams.
Sadly,
so
I
think
we
should
try
it
absolutely.
J
I
agree
I
feel
like
that
would
help
enormously
not
just
for
the
businesses
but
in
giving
residents
a
sense
of
safety,
a
feeling
of
it
I
will
say
in
our
district.
It's
particularly
hard
we're
an
emergency
thoroughfare
and
we
have
the
bus
lines
come
through,
so
we've
never
been
able
to
do
a
full
street
closure.
I
get
asked
repeatedly
it's
just
not
something
we
have
a
fire
station,
it's
not
possible,
but
taking
up
the
fire.
The
parking
lanes.
J
Excuse
me
would
be
a
wonderful
compromise
and
I
think
what
we've
seen
so
far
because
nobody
really
misses
the
parking.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
K
I
I
agree
also,
I
think
in
it
anything
you
can
do
to
you
know
utilize,
even
more
outdoor
space.
You
know
we
can
get
around
the
the
weather
concerns
and
you
know
and
promoting
it.
You
know
collaboratively
with
with
the
the
restaurants,
I
think,
is
a
great
idea.
B
No,
I
think
just
I
don't
know
just
if
mike
wanted
to
speak
at
all
to
the
to
newberry
street
on
this,
and
then
I
think
I'm
done.
I
Yeah,
the
with
with
newberry
street.
I
think
that
really
really
makes
sense.
You
know
we
kind
of
discussed
that
we
spoke
and
we've
already
tried
that
a
little
bit
with
the
open
newbery
and
obviously
it's
like
a
small
step
sort
of
thing,
but
I
think
the
pedestrianization
of
the
city
and
really
having
a
main
thoroughfare
main
location
for
that.
I
Newbery
really
really
lends
itself
to
that,
and
I
think
it
would
really
benefit
not
only
the
the
retail,
the
the
restaurants,
the
shops,
the
salons,
the
you
know,
everybody
on
newberry
would
also
really
benefit
landlords
in
terms
of
property,
value
and
stuff
like
that,
which
would
be
you
know,
incentive
for
them
to
push
for
it
as
well.
I
You
know
the
street
is,
is
a
minor
amount
of
parking
and
it's
also
a
very
high
traffic
street
for
people
looking
for
parking,
so
the
traffic
on
the
berry
is
primarily
people
searching
for
parking,
which
is
an
and
it's
you
know
it's
a
street
that
really
lends
itself
to
that
walking
european
style,
and
I
think
it
would
make
you
know
it
would
make.
The
revival
of
newberry
street
and
back
bay
would
make
that
revival
much
quicker
and
much
more
swift.
By
saying
hey,
we
can.
We
can
make
this
a
destination.
I
We
can
make
this
a
lincoln
road
in
miami.
We
can
make
this
a
you
know
a
thoroughfare
for
pedestrians,
where
you
can
walk
around,
have
a
good
night.
You
know
have
dinner,
buy
you
know,
buy
some
stuff
at
a
shop,
get
some
ice
cream
and
that's
all
independence.
You
know
primarily
there's
some
larger
companies.
Obviously
there
now,
but
you
know:
newberry
has
historically
been
an
independent
small
retail
street
with
high
end
low
end.
I
You
know
local
stuff,
so
I
think
that's
something
where
we're
taking
as
much
little
baby
steps
as
we
can
be
at
the
patios,
be
open,
newberry,
be
it
whatever
it
is,
but
the
the
traffic
patterns
there's
there's
easy
solutions
for
it.
Oil
stink
goes
one
way
combat
goes
the
other
way.
You
know.
Nukeberry
is
not
a
neces,
a
necessity
of
a
street
and
keeping
the
cross
streets
open,
something
where,
where
people
can
go
there
and
like,
let's
just
walk
the
street-
and
you
know
operators
can
say
we
have
now
a
better
patio.
I
We
can
now
kind
of
expand
that
you
know
retail
can
expand
onto
the
street
and
make
it
really
lively
and
that's
you
know,
springtime
to
mid
late
fall
and
then
you
know
nantucket
does
a
stroll
in
in
december
holiday
season.
Why
doesn't
newberry
street
have
a
stroll
like
that?
Why
can't
we
just
say
we're
gonna
shut
the
whole
street
down
and
everyone's
gonna
come
there.
I
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
there
that
that
we're
missing
and
we
just
we
need
a
little
convincing
for
everyone,
but
I
think
that's
something
in
the
future
that
it
really
really
makes
sense
for
everyone.
H
If
I
jump
back
one
minute
and
because
I
think
michael's
made
a
great
point
in
that,
it's
not
just
restaurants,
it's
everybody,
it's
every
business,
because
when
the
restaurants,
if
the
restaurants
are
out
there,
it
just
brings
people
and
brings
folks
to
those
shops.
H
O
H
And
campaigns
in
order
to
keep
this
thing
going
so
and
again
I
apologize,
but
I
will
jump
out,
but
steve
will
be
here
to
take
my
place
here
in
a
couple
minutes.
A
Where
you
go,
I
just
want
to
say
that's
a
really
cool
idea
and
campaign,
I'm
speaking
out
of
term
and
utilizing
my
privilege
as
the
chair
to
say
that
I
really
do
think
that
these
times
require
us
to
not
only
think
outside
the
box,
but
to
be
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
in
our
approach
to
how
we
engage
our
consumers,
and
I
think
the
fact
that
so
many
folks
who
are
no
longer
now
working
in
the
city
of
boston,
because
they're
doing
remote
work,
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
cultivate
that
market
and
and
create
opportunities
to
literally
wine
and
dine
them
during
these
times.
A
So
I
think,
mr
lewis,
that's
is
a
something
worth
looking
into
and
I
just
want
to
be
super.
Mindful
of
time.
We've
asked
that
each
of
our
colleagues
have
five
minutes,
so
I'm
a
counselor
buck,
because
you
are
the
co-sponsor.
I
gave
you
a
little
bit
of
extra
time,
but
don't
anyone
think
that
I'm
that's
going
to
be
the
case
for
you,
with
the
exception
of
counselor
braden,
because
you're
also
the
co-sponsor.
So
you
now
have
the
floor.
C
Thank
you.
I'm
also
curious
to
hear.
Are
there
any
other
creative
ideas
that
we
might
be
thinking
about
and
what
sort
of
support
would
be
needed
from
the
city?
I'm
thinking
you
know
in
europe
and
in
ireland,
where
I
come
from
this,
you
know
they
have
outdoor
busking
and
music
and
outdoor
performance,
that
that
makes
the
outdoor
space
a
lively
place
for
people
to
be
as
well.
So
I'm
just
wondering
what
other
creative
ideas
you
folks
might
have
knocking
around
in
your
heads.
A
I
I
Naturally,
right
and
there
can
be
you
know,
city
approval
and
permitting,
and
whatever
needs
to
be
done,
but
I
think
that
anytime
there's
a
space
where
it's
it's
an
active
pedestrian,
if
you
just
think
of
times
square
in
new
york
just
to
that
area
and
they
pedestrianize
that
heavily
you're,
saying,
okay,
there's
so
many
people
around
well
now
there's
opportunity
for
street
art
there's
opportunity
for
music
there's
opportunity,
for
you
know:
break
cancer
whatever.
It
is
something
that's
interesting
like
that.
I
You
know
any
any
pedestrian
friendly
zone
is
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
add
that
to
it
and
you
know:
there's
different
neighborhoods
and
different
locations.
I
live
in
east
boston.
There's
plenty
of
locations
in
east
boston
that
should
be
just
pedestric
maverick
square.
We
could
figure
that
out
there,
but
you
know:
there's
there's
space
for
it
in
the
city
and
there's
a
draw
for
it,
and
it
makes
the
city
more
appealing.
The
city
people
want
to
live
in
the
city
because
it's
a
fun
place,
it's
exciting.
I
It's
compact,
there's
people
right
now
are
afraid
of
it,
but
people
are
packed
in
together
and-
and
we
should
utilize
that
and
say,
let's
make
this
a
city
that
people
want
to
come
to.
Boston
is
one
of
the
best
tourist
cities
in
the
country
period,
because
it's
so
walkable,
it's
so
compact
everything's
really
nearby.
I
So
why
don't
we
capitalize
on
that
more
and
say:
let's,
let's
promote
the
businesses.
Let's,
let's
make
this
the
place
everyone
wants
to
go.
Why
would
you
stay
hanging
out
on
the
weekends
in
norfolk
or
lexington
or
linfield
or
wherever
you
want
to
come
to
boston,
to
hang
out
to
get
the
stuff
you
can't
get
in
the
summers.
J
Just
to
tap
onto
that
idea,
if
it
was
suddenly
easier
to
have
food
vendors
out
there,
food
trucks,
food
carts
like
have
an
attraction
for
those
pedestrian
events
as
well.
If
it's
easier
to
put
those
out
there
we'll
be
assisting
businesses,
but
that
will
be
a
draw
for
all
of
the
people
to
come
visit.
Those
kinds
of
events.
K
And
one
one
thing
I
just
add
is
you
know
I
mentioned
that
some
of
the
events
on
canal
street
before,
but
one
of
them
was
tied
to
a
country
concert
that
was
at
the
td
garden,
but
the
one
of
the
the
local
establishments
hired
the
country
singers.
You
know
in
that
they
were
an
extension
of
their
entertainment
license
which
allowed
that,
if
there's
a
way,
we
have
a
lot
of
talent
in
this
city.
K
If
there's
a
way,
we
can
utilize
the
public
space
for
the
talent
and
have
it
be
collaboratively
with
the
arts
academy,
or
you
know
some
other
entity,
whether
it's
berkeley
college
of
music.
That's
in
that's
in
the
city,
if
there's
a
way
that
they
I'm
sure
wanting
to
get
their
folks
that
are
talented,
you
know
out
to
promote
their
their
work
and
to
see
their
work.
K
We
could
utilize
that
public
space,
which
may
be
adjacent
to
a
lot
of
the
the
restaurants
that
you
know,
could
utilize
the
public
space
for
seating,
but
it
wouldn't
they
wouldn't
be
burdened
with
you
know,
with
having
the
entertainment
license
extended
beyond
their
their
premises,
and
you
know
it's
something
that
they
could
all
benefit
from,
but
some
of
the
some
of
the
talented
in
the
sydney
that
is
cultivated
at
some
of
our
institutions
can
be
highlighted
too.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
I'm
just
curious
council
breeding.
You
have
any
other
questions,
that's
all
for
now.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
am
going
to
ask
my
colleagues
in
the
order
of
arrival.
I
believe
we've
lost
counselor
flynn
and
counselor
arroyo,
so
I'm
going
to
have
counselor
campbell.
A
You
now
have
the
floor.
If
you
have
questions.
D
Thank
you,
council
mejia.
I
don't
have
more
questions.
Many
were
asked
and
answered
with
respect
to
listening
to
just
the
ideas.
I
think
just
one
point
that
I
I
want
to
lift
up.
D
As
a
you
know,
district
counselor,
largely
for
mattapan
and
dorchester,
is
that
you
know
there
are
many
folks
who
well
if
you
live
in
mattapan,
where
I
lived,
who
go
the
opposite
direction
right,
not
necessarily
towards
downtown,
and
so
when
talking
about
the
marketing
campaigns
or
ways
in
which
to
pull
in
folks
for
every
from
every
part
of
the
city
to
support
businesses,
not
just
here
in
our
district
but
across
the
city,
just
to
be
intentional,
intentional
there,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
in
this
part
of
the
city
that
want
to
be
supportive,
that
understand
the
economic
devastation
with
respect
to
our
small
businesses,
either
as
small
business
owners
themselves
or
as
folks
who
just
care
deeply
about
communities
having
local
ownership
and
local
establishments
that
are
diverse,
and
so
just
lifting
that
piece
up
which
has
come
to
our
attention.
D
We've
done,
some
of
that
with
respect
to
some
businesses,
but
it's
it
tends
to
be
ad
hoc
or
or
piecemeal,
not
necessarily
part
of
a
larger
plan,
and
so
I
I'm
happy
to
continue
to
be
a
part
of
this
conversation,
so
it's
all
coordinated
and
connected
across
our
neighborhoods.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
all
the
folks
who
are
taking
time
out
of
their
busy
schedules
to
really
participate.
I
know
how
busy
you
guys
are
and
thank
you
again
to
the
makers.
Thank
you.
Councilmember,
looking
forward
to
the
city
administration,
part
of
it.
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
a
lot
of
these
questions
may
be
more
specifically
geared
towards
the
administration
folks,
but
since
we
have
owners
operators
advocates
here,
I
guess
help
me
walk
through
what
the
process
is.
You
know.
We've
talked
about
sort
of
the
the
success
of
allowing
for
outdoor
seating,
taking
certain
parking
spaces
and
that
that's
obviously
going
to
continue
to
be
part
of
it,
but
I
want
to
speak
specifically
about
ways
that
we
can
allow
for
outdoor
seating
in
the
in
the
months.
G
I
just
shared
on
social
media
later
that
I'd
sent
to
chief
barros
on
september
4th
just
asking-
and
it
was
alluded
to
my
opening
statement
and
several
of
you
picked
up
on
it
as
well.
What
the
exact
process
is
in
terms
of
extending
the
time
period
and
then
also
allowing
for
the
outdoor
heaters
or
certain
tenting.
That
would
facilitate
the
ability
to
have
outdoor
seating
longer.
G
We
don't
know
who
said
it,
but
it
was
absolutely
true
that
certain
restaurants,
you
know,
have
a
great
patios
or
can
enjoy
outdoor
space
in
the
warmer
months
and
even
some
of
the
early
fall,
but
just
as
bostonians.
They
wouldn't
be
used
as
frequently
as
we
get
into
this
time
of
year.
Certainly
into
november.
G
That's
changed,
I
mean
the
the
world
as
we
know,
it
is
completely
different
and
I
think
that
you
can
see
huge
numbers
of
people
taking
advantage
of
these
small
businesses,
particularly
these
locally
owned
and
operated
businesses
and
bundling
up
to
have
a
meal
outside.
So
I
guess
you
know,
I'm
partial
to
ginger,
because
she's
one
of
my
incredible
main
streets
directors
in
in
district
six.
G
But
if
anyone
wants
to
sort
of
pop
in
jace
another
guy,
I've
known
for
years
what
the
process
currently
is
and
what
barriers
it
would
be
if
I'm
a
restaurateur
who
was
lucky
enough
to
be
able
to
secure
some
area,
some
of
my
own,
some
of
city
property,
to
facilitate
outdoor
dining.
What
would
the
steps
needed
to
what
one
of
the
current
steps
and
barriers
that
exist
to
creating
say
an
outdoor
heater
or
heat
lamps,
as
well
as
certain
tempting?
Obviously
I'm
looking
for
both
what
the
cost
would
be.
G
You
know
to
have
to
procure
this
infrastructure,
but
also
is
it
going
through?
You
know,
working
with
the
fire
department
going
through
isd,
so
if
anyone
wants
to
tackle
that,
I'm
curious
to
see
if
this
is,
if
nothing
else,
a
way
that
we
can
identify
an
easier
way
going
forward.
Thank
you.
M
I
I
can
answer
that
one.
So
the
initial
process,
back
in
the
summer
when
the
extended
outdoor
patios
were
allowed,
was
to
apply
through
the
licensing
board,
and
there
was,
I
believe,
a
multi-department
application
and,
quite
frankly,
I'm
I
was
impressed
at
how
quickly
they
moved
those
things
forward.
Once
we
got
all
the
applications
and
the
forms
in
they
moved
very
quickly,
then
just
recently,
the
mayor's
administration
and
the
fire
department
had
allowed
announced
a
process
to
permit
portable
propane
heaters.
M
So
before
that
that
was
allowed,
I
already
went
out
and
bought
nine
propane
heaters
in
anticipation
that
they
might
be
permitted,
and
I
was
going
to
return
them
if
they
weren't
there's
no
more
propane
heaters
to
be
had
anywhere.
You
can't
find
them.
There's
none
available
anywhere
portable
propane
heaters.
So
if
you
have
them
great,
you
have
to
apply
through
the
fire
department
and
they
permitted
me
in
about
a
week.
So
we
are
now
approved
in
two
locations
for
portable
propane
heaters.
M
As
of
now,
there
is
no
allowance
for
an
enclosed
area
on
public
property,
and
that's
what
bob
luz
was
talking
about
was
hoping
to
come
up
with
a
process
and
an
approval
method,
and
it
has
to
come
from
policy
from
the
top.
I
believe
to
permit
some
kind
of
tenting
or
structure
that
you
can
maintain
heat
on,
but
that's
where
we
are
today.
M
Area,
yes,
it's
prohibited
on
public
property,
parking
spaces
and
plazas
and
sidewalks
there's
no
allowance
for
any
kind
of
tenting
or
canopy
on
public
property
on
private
property.
You
can
apply
and
get
permitted
for
that.
But
but
one
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is
presently:
there
is
no
allowance
whatsoever
for
any
music
to
be
played
or
entertainment
outdoors,
that's
another
thing
that
would
really
add,
and
many
of
my
customers
have
said.
Why
can't
you
turn
the
music
on?
Can
you
open
your
windows?
Can
you
put
a
speaker
out
here?
M
I
do
understand
it,
and
my
understanding
is
that
in
the
north
end
some
people
took
advantage
of
it
and
were
blasting
music
and
the
residents
were
complaining.
I
get
it,
but
if
you
could
find
a
way
to
allow
some
music,
maybe
if
somebody
has
a
lot
a
large
enough
space,
even
live
music.
When
the
weather
comes
back
in
the
spring,
it
would
be
a
huge
attraction,
it
would
add
life
and
vitality
and
energy
to
the
streets.
G
I
do
too,
and
I
believe
we
can.
I
know
I
know
leslie
delaney
hawkins
is
on
and
will
be
in
the
next
panel
in
what
I
I.
A
Just
like
to
say
counselor
matli,
just
in
terms
of
time,
the
ringer
did
go
off
a
few
seconds
ago
and
I'm
giving
you
a
little
bit
of
extra
time.
Just
if
you
need
it,
but
I
just
want
to
be
super
mindful
that
we
have
another
panel
to
go
so
apparently.
G
Well,
I
will
just
say
in
closing,
madam
chair
that
I
agree
with
you.
I
hope
we
can
make
those
changes.
I
think
what
I
appreciate
about
hearings
like
this
is
that
you
know
there
is
no
one's
good
solution
for
everything.
Yes,
there
are
certain
restaurants
where
live
music
or
even
audio
system
could
be
problematic,
but
there
are
countless
others
where
it
would
be
celebrated.
G
A
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
don't
know
whether
this
is
a
question
or
more
of
a
comment
for
a
response
at
another
time,
but
one
of
my
concerns-
and
I
think
this
has
been
alluded
to-
and
it
may
have
been
covered
before
I
signed
on
because
I
was
late-
is
the
expense,
the
great
deal
of
expense
that
many
of
our
business
businesses
would
have
to
undertake
in
order
to
make
any
of
these
changes
and
the
igloos
are
fantastic,
but
they're
not
cheap,
I've.
N
You
know,
I've
seen
them
just
simply
online
and
they're
a
great
deal
of
expense
for
our
businesses
and-
and
I
don't
know
whether,
as
a
city
we
can
commit
to
covering
or
supporting
covering
some
of
those
expenses.
So
whether
that's,
if
anyone's
looked
at
sort
of
the
pricing
and
the
impact
that
has
on
local
businesses,
we've
got
to
give
them
the
tools
and
the
policy
creates
the
tools
in
the
vehicle.
N
But
then
you
still
need
to
there's
still
a
cost
of
doing
business
that
way
associated
with
the
outdoor
dining
associated
with
attending
associating
with
the
purchase
of
these
of
the
heaters,
which
are
hard
to
get.
Now.
You
know
so
I
don't
know
if
anyone
can
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
cost
impacts,
the
cost
of
doing
that
and
the
role
thank
you
ginger
and
the
role
that
the
city
can
play
in
helping,
although
I
don't
know
if
we
can,
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
we
can
cover
across
the
board.
J
I
just
want
to
say
really
briefly:
we
have
a
grant
program
to
assist
our
businesses,
specifically
with
reopening
expenses,
particularly
anyone
who
had
outdoor
seating,
and
we
asked
them
roughly.
How
much
did
you
spend
between
one
and
one
thousand
and
twenty
five
hundred
twenty
five
hundred
to
five
thousand
five
thousand
to
ten
thousand
and
like
eighty
percent
of
the
answers
were
twenty
five
hundred
to
five
thousand
dollars
for
jersey,
barriers,
fences
tables
and
chairs.
It
does
not
include
any
of
the
expenses
needed
for
winterizing
their
outdoor
seating.
I
Can
I
comment
on
that
as
well
sure
you
know
we
spent
with
two
locations:
gloucester
street
and
newberry?
We
easily
spent
seven
thousand
dollars
each
in
terms
of
jersey,
barriers,
rentals
umbrellas,
you
know
getting
getting
getting
our
stuff
on
the
street
decor
and
that's
done
as
a
temporary
purchase.
I
We're
not
sure
if
we
can
continue
that
next
year,
whereas
if
we're
saying
okay,
we
know
we
can
do
that
next
year,
we're
gonna
stay,
let's
figure
out
how
we
can
how
we
can
do
that,
how
we
can
make
that
nicer,
how
we
can
make
that
something
that's
presentable
to
have
on
the
very
street
or
on
boston
street
or
in
any
neighborhood.
Really.
So
that's
something
where
I
think
you
know
the
cost
is
very
high,
but
we're
also
we're
also
saying
this
might
be
a
temporary
thing
where
that
stuff
is
then
trash.
I
So
how
can
we
be
sure
that,
if
we're
making
this
investment
for
buying
heaters,
if
we're
buying
planters
that
you
know
you
can
use
that
next
year,
you
can
be
sure
of
that
next
year,
and
I
think
that
you
know
operators
would
like
clarity
on
that
saying.
Okay,
if
I'm
going
to
purchase
something,
I
want
to
purchase
it
to
have
it
for
several
years,
not
for
four
months.
N
I
certainly
hope,
as
as
an
at-large
city
council,
I
certainly
hope
that
we
continue
at
least
in
the
warm
seasons
with
the
outdoor
seating
and
that
those
investments
that
businesses
and
restaurants
have
made
for
that
outdoor
experience.
I
I
don't
want
to
see
that
wasted.
I
think
that
it
was
a
really
wonderful
experience
all
together,
but
the
winter
months
are
different
and
that
investment
is
is
a
great
deal
more,
so
the
7
000
or
the
5
000
that
has
been
spent
today
yeah.
N
A
I
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
an
expense
that
restaurants
have
made.
That
would,
you
know,
be
very
helpful
and
that's
liquor
licenses
and
liquor
license
reform
as
I
have
four
locations
as
an
operator,
I'm
talking
about
several
hundred
thousand
over
a
million
dollars
in
terms
of
liquor
licenses
and
liquor.
Licenses
are
now
going
to
be
hugely
devalued,
and
you
know
places
are
closing
because
they're
trying
to
get
rid
of
their
liquor
license
while
it's
still
at
value,
but
that's
just
going
to
go
very
far
down.
I
Other
panelists
has
eight
locations,
I'm
sure
he's
sitting
on
a
huge
amount
of
liquor
licenses
and
the
expense
with
that.
Every
year,
renewals
et
cetera
and
the
city
has
talked
about
trying
to
say,
let's
expand
elected
licenses.
Let's
move
those
to
other
neighborhoods.
How
can
we
do
that,
and
the
big
challenge
is
that
people
that
are
holding
licenses
are
going
to
be
very
upset
about
that.
I
I
So
I
think
if
a
city
can
at
least
kind
of
discuss
that
and
licensing
board
how
we
can
how
we
can
compensate
owners
for
their
licenses
and
then
eliminate
the
the
open
market
of
free
trading
of
licenses
where
it's
just
a
sandy
provided
asset.
That
is
like.
That's,
that's!
That's
the
other
level!
That's
above
you
know
free
heaters
or
something
like
that.
I
That's
something
that
would
say
this
is
a
way
that
we're
gonna
really
support
independent
businesses,
because
if
I
close-
and
you
know,
cheesecake
factory
wants
to
buy
a
license,
they
can
buy
whatever
license
they
want
any
any
major
corporation
can
just
pick
up
a
license
and
buy
it
and
say
see
you
later.
You
know
it's
just
small
operators,
so
I
think
that's
a
big
challenge
where
everyone
that's
sitting
on
any
licenses
right
now
is
going
to
be
hugely
devalued
beer
and
wine
life.
I
So
I
think
that's
that's
something
where
independents
and
small
groups,
local
groups,
are
really
really
going
to
struggle
with
that,
and
if
we
want
to
promote
more
restaurants
in
east
boston
and
hyde
park
and
roslindale
and
west
roxbury
and
jp
and
matapan
and
say
hey,
you
want
to
open
a
taco
shack
with
you
know
some
beer.
I
Well
now
you
can
do
it
without
having
that
huge
expense
and
a
huge
liability
and
a
huge
risk-
and
you
know,
operators
that
have
those
licenses
can
can
now
operate
and
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
cash
in
our
licenses,
but
they
need
to
also
be
compensated
for
that
because
they've
already
paid
for
it.
So
I
think
that's
something
in
terms
of
the
cost
that
that's
above
everything
and
everyone's
seeing
that
right
now.
That's
why
boylston
street
four
of
the
major
bars
right
on
boylston
street
from
the
convention
center
just
closed.
I
A
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
the
next
panel,
but
before
I
do,
I
just
kind
of
wanna
offer
something
that
perhaps
the
city
can
consider
as
it
relates
to
the
storage
of
a
lot
of
these
items
and
just
curious
as
to
whether
or
not
there's
an
interest
to
partner
up
with
u-haul
and
other
storage
companies
that
may
want
to
donate
their
space
as
just
being
good
partners
in
the
city
of
boston
and
potentially
do
so
regionally
where
the
city
can
leverage
its
power
of
being
able
to
say
hey.
A
I
think
that
you
know
these
moments
going
back
to
mr
loose's
idea
of
like
really
thinking
outside
the
box
is
that
we
also
need
to
as
a
city
look
at
the
the
power
of
doing
business
in
boston
and
the
opportunity
we
have
to
engage
folks
to
participate
in
supporting
small
businesses,
and
I
think
that
this
could
be
something
that
we
could
consider
exploring
and
if
not
the
city.
A
Just
because
I
think
that
this
is
what
we
need
to
do
so
that
all
means
all
can
survive
this
situation
right
now.
So
that's
just
something
that
I'd
like
to
offer.
I
didn't
have
any
questions
lined
up
specifically
to
the
small
businesses.
I'm
here
facili,
you
know
facilitating
this
hearing
I
do
have
most
of
my
questions
are
for
the
administration
and
it
would
be
unfair
for
me
to
hold
you
all
hostage
as
panelists
for
the
first
round,
but
I
think
it's
important
if
you
are
interested
in
staying
you're.
A
More
than
welcome
to,
I
always
like
to
create
opportunities
for
those
who
are
living
the
realities
and
doing
the
work
to
also
ask
questions.
So
it's
not
just
the
counselors
that
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions.
I
like
to
create
space
for
other
folks
to
also
join
in
the
dialogue.
That's
not
normally
how
it's
done,
but
I
think
that
oftentimes,
we
need
to
create
space
for
those
folks
who
are
living
the
reality
so
also
have
questions
for
the
administration,
things
that
we
may
not
potentially
be
thinking
about.
A
So,
if
you're
interested
in
joining
in
the
dog
you're
more
welcome
to
stay
and
I'll
call
on
you
when
it's
time
to
ask
questions
so
so
really
appreciate
your
participation
and
in
the
interest
of
time
I
am
going
to
move
on
to
the
second
panel.
Once
again,
we're
going
to
ask
panelists
to
please
keep
their
testimonies
to
no
more
than
five
minutes.
We
will
start
with
director
the
director
of
small
business,
I'm
natalia!
P
Thank
you
counselor
good
afternoon.
Everyone
again.
My
name
is
natalia
ertebay,
director
of
small
business
in
the
office
of
economic
development.
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
around
reopening
of
our
small
business
in
particular
restaurants.
P
To
date,
we've
given
out
over
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
and
again
these
are
direct
grants
to
businesses.
So
they
are
getting
that
funding.
You
know
from
the
city
in
order
to
be
able
to
purchase
all
of
the
materials
that
they
need
in
order
to
reopen
safely
and
we've
been
very
proud
of
that
and
will
continue
to
offer
those
grants.
P
P
I
do
want
to
commend
the
licensing
board
for
their
flexibility
and
the
ability
for
us
to
shift
an
entire
process
really
quickly.
We
did
a
presentation,
a
couple
of
maybe
like
a
month
ago
or
so
where
we
talked
about
the
timeline
of
from
the
very
from
when
we
started
talking
about
this
process
and
being
able
to
execute
on
it.
It
was
a
one
week
turn
around,
which
has
been
just
an
incredible
incredible
feat,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
different
departments
to
be
to
be.
P
You
know
noted
for
that
immense
work.
I
also
obviously
want
to
call
out
the
inspectional
services
department,
fire
department,
boston,
water
and
sewer
et
cetera,
because
there's
been
just
a
tremendous.
This
is
a
tremendous
collaborative
effort,
I'm
not
going
to
speak
around
the
actual
permits,
because
we
don't
issue
those
permits,
those
are
issued
by
the
licensing
board
and
other
departments,
and
so
I'll.
Let
them
have
some
time.
P
P
So
we
will
continue
to
help
businesses
one-on-one
as
needed,
because
sometimes
the
bureaucracy
and
all
of
the
steps
are
confusing,
and
I
think
part
of
our
strategy
from
the
jump
during
this
pandemic
has
been
to
look
at
our
processes.
Look
at
how
we
can
eliminate
barriers
and
figure
out
how
we
can
better
support
our
small
businesses-
and
I
think
this
experience
so
far-
is
a
true
testament
to
that.
P
So
I'll
yield
the
rest
of
my
time
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
specific
questions,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
my
colleagues
get
a
chance
to
tell
you
about
the
the
process
and
some
of
those
questions
that
are
still
unclear
and
out
there
for
all
of
you.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Just
don't
have
much
of
an
opening
statement
here,
other
than
to
say
that
isd
is
really
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
council
and
all
the
other
city
departments
and
agencies
that
have
been
involved
over
the
past
few
months
on
figuring
out
some
creative
solutions
for
the
winter
happy
to
answer
any
questions
from
the
council
moving
forward
on
specifics,
but
just
wanted
to
say
that
I'm
available
and
and
happy
to
try
to
help
move
this
forward.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Well,
you
guys
are
doing
rapid
rounds
here.
I'm
gonna
keep
it
moving.
Then
I'm
gonna
move
on
now
to
assistant
commissioner
dan
manning.
You
now
have
the
floor.
A
Okay,
okay,
then
moving
on
I'm
following
my
script,
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
our
over
to
director
vinitz.
O
Thank
you
constable,
I'm
vinit
gupta,
I'm
the
planning
director
master
transportation
department,
but
I
can
speak
both
for
public
works
and
and
btd,
and
actually
just
following
chris's
kind
of
need.
I'm
here
to
answer
questions
and
really
we've
been
lucky
to
work
with
the
licensing
board.
O
Who've
shown
a
great
leadership
in
expediting
the
permitting
process
and
as
far
as
public
works
and
bt
go,
we've
made
sure
that
we've
been
effective
in
giving
you
know
giving
up
our
sidewalks
and
giving
up
our
streets
for
outdoor
dining
in
a
way
that
was
safe
and
useful
for
both
people
who
run
restaurants,
the
actual
owners
and
people
who
dine
outside
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
A
R
Thanks
counselor
jacob
wessel
public
realm
manager
with
the
transportation
department,
I'll
just
sort
of
defer
to
what
venete
had
spoken
to
earlier
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
the
work
around
restaurants
or
other
repurposing
of
street
space
for
public
use,
either
in
in
new
ways
or
in
ways
that
we've
done
in
the
past
few
years.
As
the
call
for
the
hearing
mentioned
thanks.
A
S
Thank
you,
counselor,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
members
of
the
council
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
to
appear
before
you.
I
do
want
to
apologize.
There
is
road
work
going
on
on
my
street,
so
if
you
get
that
background
noise,
that
is
what
it
is
just
wanted
to
make
a
couple
quick
points,
and
then
I'm
really
just
here
as
a
resource,
to
hear
your
thoughts
and
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
when
we
got
our
first
inquiry
is
the
licensing
board
at
kind
of
the
beginning
of
covet.
S
Looking
forward
to
the
summer.
In
the
warmer
months,
we
in
the
period
of
one
month
went
from
having
no
online
application
process
to
permitting,
within
30
days,
our
first
outdoor
dining
location.
There
were
certainly
plenty
of
lessons
learned
in
that
process,
and
I
know
we're
all
working
together
with
this
team,
with
our
licensees
with
other
departments
to
look
at
in
the
on.
You
know
the
future
seasons
how
we
can
continue
to
do
this
on
a
kind
of
an
expedited
basis.
S
To
be
completely
frank,
a
member
of
our
team,
rebecca
foo,
who
has
been
absolutely
phenomenal,
created
a
google
document,
and
that
is
how
we
actually
did
this
and
to
date,
we've
permitted
over
550
of
these
again.
There
are
certainly
areas
we
can
improve
in
and
we're
committed
to
doing
that.
But
I
I
do
want
to
know
that
we
went
from
nothing
to
actually
permitting
out
the
thing
in
the
period
of
30
days,
which
that
is
a
credit
to
you,
know
the
city
to
this
team
and
to
our
licensees
for
working
with
us.
S
While
there
has
not
been
a
formal
announcement
about
outdoor
dining
in
the
next
season.
Obviously,
we
know
that
these
are
incredibly
challenging
times
and
the
mayor,
the
administration,
the
council
and
all
these
departments
are
completely
committed
to
anything
and
everything
we
can
do
to
help
our
licensees.
S
What
we
did
was
we
worked
very
diligently
as
a
board
and
with
the
law
department
to
review
the
law
and
our
rules
and
regulations
to
determine
whether
we
could
do
it
through
our
existing
temporary
extension
program
and
anyone
who's
ever
been
to
an
event
at
florian
hall
on
you
know,
on
the
parking
lot
or
to
a
wedding
in
the
extension
of
an
adjacent
establishment.
That's
been
done
for
our
outdoor
temporary
extension
process
and
that's
what
we
implemented
here
on
a
large-scale
city-wide,
temporary
non-precedent
setting
basis.
S
So
obviously,
as
everyone
here
knows,
we
waived
all
fees,
we
waived
all
community
process
and
to
the
point
about
entertainment.
I
know
doug
bacon
who's,
one
of
our
very
well-known
licensees.
We
always
appreciate
his
input.
One
of
the
reasons
we
did
not
allow
entertainment
this
season.
It
was
very
specific
because
one
this
was
for
dining
right.
This
wasn't
for
going
and
watching
a
red
sox
game,
not
that
was
happening
at
the
time,
but
it
wasn't
for
entertainment,
and
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
people
weren't
lingering
and
they
weren't
congregating.
S
The
other
piece
is
that
we're
trying
to
strike
a
balance
between
helping
our
licensees
and
also
ensuring
the
quality
of
life
of
our
residents
and
as
as
you
all
know,
when
you're
representing
your
constituents,
there
is
a
lot
of
opinions
and
feelings
when
it
comes
to
outdoor
entertainment,
even
something
as
limited
as
background
music.
So
it
was
a
way
to
kind
of
balance,
those
those
competing
interests
to
ensure
that
we
were
providing
our
licensees
this
lifeline
and
at
the
same
time
we
were
also
respecting
the
kind
of
quality
of
life
of
our
residents.
S
You
know
next
summer
when
we're
looking
at
doing
this,
and
we
are
very
we're
very
involved
in
looking
at
how
to
refine
this
process
and
replicate
it
on
an
even
more
expedited
basis
for
next
year
that
it
will
certainly,
depending
on
incoming
public
health
metrics.
That
will
be
a
big
part
of
the
conversation.
A
Thank
you
thank
you
and
you
literally
did
not
yield
much
time
but
10
seconds,
but
we
do
appreciate
you
trying
to
end
on
time.
I
am
going
to
ask
and
I'm
going
to
first
move
on
to
counselor
bach
and
then
counselor
breed
and
I
do
have,
and
I'm
not
sure,
douglas
how
long
you're
going
to
stay
on.
But
before
you
go.
A
But
I
think
that
it's
something
for
us
to
work
worth
worth
us
looking
into
in
terms
of
the
impact
of
the
restaurant
business
on
the
workforce
and
ways
that
the
city
of
boston
can
help
support
our
restaurant
owners
in
this
process.
I'm
curious
just
offline
there's
something
for
us
to
think
about,
or
actually
follow
up
with
you
directly
on
the
workforce
and
and
how
this
has
impacted.
Your
employees
and
ways
that
we
can
be
of
support
so
just
curious.
If
you
don't
mind.
M
M
I
have
employees
on
the
payroll
happy
to
come
to
work,
earning
almost
the
same
wages
they
were
making
before
most
of
their
income
is
in
tips,
and
sometimes
they
make
30
and
more
dollars
an
hour
working
out
on
the
patio
and
they're
happy
to
come
to
work,
and
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
reticence
in
the
beginning
and
people
wearing
face,
masks
and
face
guards
with
plexiglass
and
as
well
as
the
masks
and
now
there's
a
much
greater
comfort
level.
Among
my
staff
now
again
knock
on
wood.
I've
got
about
80
people
working.
M
I
opened
up
in
early
july,
my
first
location.
I
now
have
four
open
with
three
outdoor
patios.
I
don't
have
a
single
case
of
anybody
who
came
back
to
work,
who
has
subsequently
tested
positive
for
covet.
My
my
employees
feel
happy
to
come
to
work.
They
take
pride
in
serving
the
people
in
the
community
and
they're
making
a
good
living.
A
Of
being
the
the
chair
of
this,
and
I
went
out
of
order,
so
I'm
so
sorry,
kenzie
counselor
bach,
I'm
gonna
turn
it
back
to
you.
You
now
have
the
floor
for
questions.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much,
and
that's
certainly
your
prerogative
chair.
I
I'll
I'll
ask
a
first
round
of
questions.
I
have
quite
a
lot
of
questions,
and
so
you
should
feel
free
to
cut
me
off
madam
chair
and
then
I
can
ask
them
in
a
second
round.
I
think
the
first
one
in
five
minutes
right,
full
question.
B
Yep
sounds
good,
and
so
I
think
the
first
thing
I
just
want
to
ask
the
administration
is
one
of
the
things
we've
heard.
A
lot
is
just
you
know,
predictability
and
for
these
operators
being
able
to
plan
ahead
for
next
year.
So
I
really
want
to
know
like
how.
How
soon
can
we
expect
leslie?
B
You
mentioned
that
we
haven't
made
a
commitment
yet,
but
how
soon
can
we
expect
to
to
be
able
to
put
out
dates
and
a
clear,
firm
commitment
to
outdoor
dining
next
year,
and
then
my
other
question
is
around
that
is
really
more
for
vinnie
and
jacob,
but
also
the
whole
interagency
team
that
has
to
work
on
this.
B
I
think
you
know
we
obviously
didn't
do
the
pedestrianization
events
of
open
newbury
open
charles
jay
walsh,
who
was
on
talked
about
having
closed
canal
street
in
the
past,
and
I
think
it's
not
just
great
if
we
could
do
those
next
year,
but
also
if
we
could
plan
them
ahead
right,
pedestrianization
events,
thinking
about
where
there
might
be
an
opportunity
to
do
them
on
a
recurring
basis.
B
A
weekly
thing
do
more
of
them
out
in
the
neighborhoods
ginger
brown
spoke
to
the
fact
that
it's
challenging
on
their
main
street
because
of
the
fire
lane,
but
that
at
least
something
where
you
took
a
whole
parking
lane
might
be
really
great.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
fact
that
there
are
things
here
that
are
nice
for
our
operators
if
we
do
but
they're
twice
as
good,
if
we
announce
them
with
them
having
enough
time
to
kind
of
plan
their
lives
around
them.
S
Thank
you
counselor.
I
I
will
take
the
first
question
and-
and
I
think
the
mayor
and
the
board-
and
I
think
all
of
the
center
departmental
team
are
committed
to
outdoor
dining
next
year.
I
don't
think
anyone
wants
to
make
an
announcement
about
exactly
what
the
process
looks
like
until
we've
kind
of
completed
and
we're
actively
working
on
it
evaluating
our
process
this
year,
so
that
we
can
make
it
even
more
accessible.
S
But
I
I
don't
think
it
is
inappropriate
to
say
that
we
will
see
outdoor
dining
again
and
this
coming
year
on
a
temporary
kind
of
basis,
as
opposed
to
going
through.
You
know
a
traditional
permanent
extension
and
I
think
there
will
be
forthcoming
announcements
on
that
in
the
near
future,
but
I
I
do
want
to
emphasize
that
we
are
very
actively
working
and
we're
collaborating
with
a
harvard
business
school
fellow
on
actually
even
further
streamlining
our
process,
because
for
as
quickly
as
we
got
it
off
the
ground.
S
There
are
a
lot
of
lessons
to
learn.
You
know
we
always
point
to
the
north
end
when
we,
when
we
opened
up
there,
all
at
once
and
kind
of,
had
to
then
reevaluate
the
barriers
to
ensure
public
safety.
So
I
think
we
know
that
outdoor
dining
has
been
a
lifeline.
We
know
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
lifeline
and
we're
committed
to
continuing
that.
P
I
just
really
quickly
so
obviously,
as
several
folks
have
mentioned,
they
have
purchased
materials
and
things
like
that,
and
we
acknowledge
that
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
as
we
prepare
for
whatever
comes
next,
that
obviously
we're
taking
into
consideration
the
sooner
the
better
for
people
to
know.
You
know,
especially
because
they've
made
significant
financial
investments.
A
O
O
A
quick
first
tab
and
then
jacob
can
add,
but
in
general,
just
like
leslie
was
saying
we're
open
to
the
new
ideas.
We
are
definitely
interested
in
brainstorming
on
how
we
can
do
open
street
events
on
a
more
regular
basis,
rather
than
as
kind
of
you
know,
one-offs
or
twice
a
year,
so
definitely
open
to
doing
them
more
often,
we
want
to
do
them
in
a
more
kind
of
efficient
way
without
using
up
too
many
kind
of
resources
to
manage
them.
O
If
we
are
in
fact
doing
them
more
often,
so
it
will
also
mean
stronger
partnerships
with
the
people
who
have
businesses
or
live
in
these
corridors,
and
so
that's
something
we
can
work
in
over
the
winter
and
into
spring
jacob.
If
you
wanted
to
add
something,
please.
R
Yeah,
I
would
say
on
on
the
both
yeah
just
to
stress,
I
guess
what
everyone
else
is
saying
that
that
we'll
probably
have
more
information
later
this
year
on
the
the
outdoor
seating
and
we're
working
sort
of
as
quickly
as
we're
able
to,
because
we
do
realize
and
we're
fielding
questions
from
business
owners,
just
as
you
are
on
what
to
do
with
all
those
materials
and
as
someone
who
works
on
behalf
of
the
transportation
department
trying
to
store
some
of
our
things
over
the
winter.
R
It's
it's
quite
the
tall
task
to
find
storage
space.
So
we
hear
you
loud
and
clear
and
that
that's
something
that
we're
working
to
get
to
as
soon
as
we're
able
on
the
pedestrian
events
and
open
streets.
I
could
you
couldn't
agree
more
that
it's
something
that
we
would
like
to
do
a
lot
more
of
it's
something.
We
were
prepping
on
doing
more
of
this
year
until
the
pandemic
hit,
and
in
years
past.
R
We've
had
about
a
monthly
time
announcing
those
events
and
that's
not
enough
time
to
sort
of
plan
in
an
adequate
way
to
be
able
to
prepare
your
business
and
things
like
of
that
nature
and
some
of
those
events
that
you've
talked
about
on
canal
or
charles
street
happen
weeks
or
days
to
get
those
approvals.
So
I
think,
as
vanit
mentioned,
we
want
to
sort
of
come
back,
maybe
in
late
winter,
early
spring
2021
to
announce
a
a
schedule.
R
That
is
something
that
folks
can
plan
for
through
the
spring
summer
and
fall
of
2021
and
also
look
to
more
events
in
the
neighborhoods
as
well
as
vini
mentioned.
Some
of
these
can
be
resource
intensive,
with
particularly
with
police
details
and
with
sort
of
getting
all
the
physical
things
and
people
power
out
there
to
manage
them,
and
so
we
want
to
be
sure
that
we
can
work
with
other
departments
on
how
to
have
these
events
in
an
easier
way,
so
that
we
can
sort
of
rinse
and
repeat
and
sort
of
unlock.
B
Great,
no,
I
think
that's
so
important
and
I
think,
having
some
kind
of
interest
form
way
for
main
street
districts
and
neighborhood
groups
and
all
to
indicate
an
interest,
just
as
you
guys
are
thinking
about
that,
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
people
can
raise
their
hand
and
say
we
would
love
to
do
something
might
be
helpful,
and
I
I
I
know,
I'm
sure,
I'm
out
of
time
I'll
just
raise
that
I
really
what
doesn't
fit
in
that
timeline
is
the
possibility
of
us
doing
kind
of
holiday
market
four
season
type
things
this
winter,
even
to
be
a
little
bit
more
like
the
cities
to
our
north,
that
that
really
take
advantage
of
outdoor
activity
in
the
streets
even
in
the
winter.
A
We're
gonna
wait
so
just
because
we're
coming
up
at
almost
five
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
rest
of
our
colleagues
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
if
there
is
opportunity
for
a
second
round,
counselor
bach
I'll
be
going
to
you
first,
okay,
so
we'll
go
to
counselor
breathing.
You
now
have
the
floor.
C
I'm
just
curious:
this
is
maybe
a
question
for
jacob
about
how
many
actual
locations
we
do
have
outdoor
dining
or
patio
on
on
the
public
on
the
street
or
in
in
parking
spaces.
How
many
have
you
folks
been
working
with
and
and
also
the
location
of
them,
and
they
are
they
focused
on
time
or
they
are
they
scattered
through
the
neighborhoods
as
well.
S
S
Maybe
five
are
kind
of
one-offs
in
park
spaces,
so
the
vast
majority
are
on
the
public
way
they
have
been
distributed
throughout
the
city,
but
to
one
of
the
points
I
think
natalia
made
earlier
and
when
we're
talking
about
refining
the
process
and
making
it
even
more
accessible,
we
found
that
we
did
a
lot
of
outreach
to
the
neighborhoods
to
make
sure
that
you
know
they
were
aware
of
the
program
and
we
did
a
lot
of
working
with
natalya's
team
to
to
kind
of
help
walk
them
through,
because
even
with
this
kind
of
expedited
process,
it
is
still
challenging
if
you've.
S
P
And
councillor
breeden
just
so,
you
know
there
is
a
full
list
of
all
of
the
outdoor
extensions,
so
we
put
together
a
list
of
open
restaurants
on
boston.gov,
forward,
slash,
restaurant
support
and
of
those
you
can
actually
look
and
filter
for
outdoor
dining.
So
we've
been
working
really
closely
with
the
licensing
board
on
getting
an
updated
list
and
having
that
be
really
reflective
online,
I
will
say
that
there
are
some
restaurants
out
there
that
have
gone
through
the
the
permitting
process
have
been
awarded
an
extension
but
haven't
actually
update.
P
You
know
used
it,
so
there
are
some
of
those
that
are
listed
on
the
website
that
maybe
did
not
actually
implement
their
their
outdoor
seating
for
various
reasons,
and
so
I
encourage
everybody
to
take
a
look
at
that
list
and
support
the
local
businesses
in
their
districts.
C
R
And
I'll
just
add,
if
you're
more
of
a
visual
learner
at
boston.gov,
slash,
healthy
streets,
there's
also
a
map
where
those
we
we
drag
those
locations
from
that
list
and
it's
plotted
on
a
map.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
your
district,
in
addition
to
the
great
pop-up
bike,
lane
work
and
and
bustling
work
that
vineet
and
the
team
at
btd
have
been
shepherding.
R
There's
little
dots
where
every
restaurant
has
outdoor
seating
located
in
the
public
right-of-way.
C
I
also
think
covid
when
colwood
will
be
over
sometime,
but
I
think
this
has
given
us
an
opportunity
to
try
out
some
innovative,
innovative
ways
to
think
about
our
small
businesses
and
our
business
districts,
and
hopefully
we'll
learn
some
lessons
that
we'll
be
able
to
put
into
action
post
covent,
make
it
make
our
street
life
and
our
community
more
more
lively
outs,
outdoor
outdoor
dining
and
whatever
make
it
more
of
a
european
feel
to
it.
But
that
would
be
that
might
be
something
fun
to
think
about.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councillor
breeden.
I
am
before
I
move
on
to
my
colleagues,
I'm
going
to
utilize
the
privilege
of
being
the
chair.
I
do
have
a
few
questions
and
I
wanted
to
see
if
natalia,
if
you
could
just
quickly
in
the
follow-up
in
terms
of
the
number
of
licenses
that
have
been
given
or
heather,
I'm
not
sure
which,
if
do
you
have
any
data
by
neighborhoods
in
terms
of
how
many
restaurants
applied
and
are
operating
for
the
outdoor
patio.
Do
you
have
that
data
by
neighborhood.
P
Yeah
I'll
let
leslie
respond
and
again
that
list
that
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
is
public
facing,
can
be
filtered
by
neighborhood
and
just
so
the
council
knows
we
did
outreach
to
every
single
neighborhood,
every
single
commercial
district,
with
the
goal
of
ensuring
that
every
district
had
at
least
one
restaurant
that
they
could
support.
Obviously,
so
I'll
let
leslie
touch
on
the
specifics
data,
I'm
not
sure
we
have
it
right
in
front
of
us,
but
it
is
available
publicly
on
the
website.
S
That's
cool,
absolutely
thank
you
natalia.
We
do
have
that
counselor
and
we
can
get
that
to
you
with
the
neighborhood
breakdown.
A
That's
great
and
do
you
know
how
you
were
able
to
help
support
some
of
the
businesses
that
are
less
tech,
savvy
those
types
of
businesses
that
may
not
have
access
to
the
internet
or
they
do
they
just
use
it
on
their
smartphones
like?
How
are
you
guys
able
to
overcome
the
digital
divide
in
terms
of
your
outreach
and
also,
how
are
you
able
to
help
inform
businesses
who,
in
whose
english
may
not
be
their
first
language,.
P
Thank
you,
leslie
yeah,
so
my
team,
actually
so
my
neighborhood
business
managers
on
our
team
actually
went
and
walked
and
canvassed
every
single
neighborhood
talked
to
every
single
restaurant
that
they
could
connect.
With
about
this
opportunity.
P
We
are
old
school.
We
do
a
lot
of
in-person
phone
calls,
obviously
email
wherever
relevant,
and
we
actually,
like
I
said
we
earlier.
We
walked
people
through
the
entire
questionnaire,
the
entire
permitting
process.
We
even
actually
went
out
there
and
drew
visited
the
spaces
with
public
works
to
make
sure
that
everything
was
feasible
before
they
even
applied
for
those
that
didn't
have
the
financial
resources
or
connections
to
get
jersey.
Barriers
to
you
know
get
all
the
all
this
stuff
in
order,
we
helped
them
do
that.
P
Public
works
was
very
generous
in
lending
out
jersey
barriers,
so
we
did
that
hand
holding
with
more
than
20
restaurants
it
I
think
it's.
The
final
number
was
between
23
and
25
restaurants,
and
these
again
were
really
targeted
to
our
immigrant
owned
businesses,
our
black
and
brown
businesses,
our
neighborhood
commercial
districts
and
those
restaurants.
P
We
started
looking
at
all
of
the
applicants
and
noticed
major
gaps,
which
is
what
really
sparked
a
lot
of
additional
work
on
my
team
to
be
able
to
support
these
businesses
so
yeah
I'll.
Stop
there.
A
Great,
thank
you
and
then
I
just
have
two
more
questions
and
they'll
be
quick.
One
is
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
everything
is
informed
by
data
this
these
days.
You
know
whether
or
not
we
were
going
to
open
up
schools,
how
everything
you
know
whether
we
were
going
to
reopen
the
city
so
knowing
that
data
informs
everything
and
because
I've
heard
a
lot
around,
you
know
we're
going
to
go
back
to
normal
in
18
months
and
I'm
just
curious.
Why?
A
If
there's
an
opportunity
to
look
at
what
the
data
reveals
in
terms
of
this
18-month
longevity
kind
of
plan,
and
is
it
possible
to
think
about
supporting
these
businesses,
or
at
least
saying
well,
at
least
we
know
for
the
next
18
months
that
we're
not
going
to
go
back
to
normal.
If,
knowing
that,
can
you
just
extend
it
so
that
these
businesses
can
prepare
for
the
long
haul
for
the
next
18
months
as
opposed
to
the
uncertainty?
A
S
I
will
take
a
shot
at
that.
I
think
on
the
mayor
announced
last
week.
I
believe
that
outdoor
dining
on
private
property
is
extended
indefinitely
for
the
term
of
of
this
public
health
crisis
in
terms
of
public
property,
because
of
the
very
unique
both
infrastructure
and
weather
challenges
we
have
here.
S
Obviously
we
we
had
to
put
an
end
date,
which
was
extended
by
the
mayor
from
october,
31st
to
right
now
december,
1st
weather,
permitting
at
which
time
the
city
will
take
another
look
at
where
things
stand
and
obviously,
if
we
have
a
very
mild
winter,
we
would
absolutely
like
to
see
this
extended
weather
permitting
as
far
as
it
as
it
can
go
with
the
threat
of
snow.
You
know
there
are.
S
The
mayor
has
made
it
very
clear
to
everyone
in
the
administration
that
he
wants
to
see
this
continue
because
it
has
been
such
a
lifeline
to
our
to
our
licensees
and,
at
this
point,
we're
just
trying
to
refine
the
process
so
that
when
we
do
launch
it
that
the
application
process
that
it's
that
it's
in
an
even
better
place
and
we've
learned
from
some
of
the
lessons
this
year.
A
Yeah
and
like
counselor
osabee
george,
I'm
a
big
supporter
of
making
sure
that,
for
me,
it's
not
just
about
doing
business
as
usual.
I
really
hope
that
we
don't
go
back
to
the
way
we
used
to
do
things
and
that
whatever
lessons
we
were
able
to
learn
during
this
pandemic
that
we
will
continue
to
to
utilize
some
of
these
best
practices
to
remove
those
barriers
but,
more
importantly,
to
continue
with
the
outdoor,
dining
and
patios
and
allowing
businesses
to
thrive
beyond
the
pandemic.
A
So
that's
just
I
want
to
advocate
for
that,
but
I
know
that
I'm
not
here
as
an
advocate,
I'm
here
as
the
chair
and
I'm
going
to
move
on
and
see.
If
my
other
colleagues
have
any
questions
and
I
believe
we
had
to
lose
councilor
campbell,
so
I
believe
the
next
on
the
list
is
councilor
o'malley
from
district
six.
You
now
have
the
floor.
If
you
have
any
questions.
A
So
we're
going
to
go
on
to
counselor
asabi
george,
if
you're
still
here
both
have
left
the
zoom
y'all
okay,
so
I
just
was
notified
of
that.
So
I'm
gonna
now
kenzie
you're
gonna
get
your
moment
because
I'm
gonna
turn
the
floor
right
back
to
you
to
see.
If
you
you
said
you
had
some
additional
questions,
so
counselor
bach,
you
not
have
a
full
app.
B
Yeah,
so
I
guess
I'll
start
where
I
left
off,
which
is
just
you
know,
the
prospect
for
some
of
our
panelists
earlier
brought
up
the
idea
of
holiday
strolls.
I
think
holiday
markets
right
so
sort
of
you
know
one-off
kind
of
chance
to
chance
to
get
both
our
retailers
and
our
restaurants
a
kind
of
event
structure,
and
then
I
guess
I
don't
know
that
this
necessarily
belongs
to
anybody
who's
here,
maybe
it's
most
oed,
and
so
maybe
it's
a
sort
of
natalia
question.
B
But
I
found
myself
thinking
a
lot
and
ginger
brown
brought
it
up
about
like
how
could
we
create
a
sense
of
occasion
like
the
way
that
we
had
the
winter
wonderland
at
city
hall
plaza?
Could
we
have
kind
of
outdoor
winter
attractions
scattered
around
the
city
this
winter?
That
despite
snow,
would
kind
of
pull
people
out
and
again
be
a
place
that
we
could
have
food
trucks,
stalls
vendors,
just
kind
of
create
that
sort
of
outdoor
opportunity
for
commerce
and
for
socialization
to
keep
up
people's
spirits?
So
I'd
love
to
hear
from
the
administration
side?
B
We've
been
talking
a
lot
about
next
year.
I
would
love
to
hear
what
plans
are
kind
of
taking
shape
to
think
outside
the
box,
like
how
ser
mejia
says
about
the
winter
season,
and-
and
I
do
just
want
to
repeat
again
that
I
really
think
to
our
north.
We
have
a
number
of
cities
that
experience
more
snow
and
colder
weather
than
we
do
and
who
do
more
of
this
in
canada.
So
it
doesn't
seem
impossible
to
me.
P
Yeah,
thank
you
counselor.
I
I
want
to
say
so.
We
work
very
closely,
obviously
with
all
the
20
main
street
districts
and
anytime
they're
interested
in
participating
in
these
types
of
events.
We
fully
support
them.
I
can
remember
you
know
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
like
the
bike
and
brew
at
ashmont.
You
know
the
closing
down
of
several
areas
in
order
to
do
this,
so
we
are
huge
supporters
of
that.
I
think
part
of
the
need
again
as
vinit
mentioned
earlier
is
we
do
need
more
partnerships.
P
It
costs
a
lot
of
money.
It
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
a
lot
of
coordination
to
actually
set
this
stuff
up.
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
winter
wonderland
at
city
hall
was
operated,
organized
coordinated
by
a
private
company,
so
you
know,
I
think
there
are
opportunities
for
that
and
we
are
more
than
willing
to
partner
with
folks
to
do
that.
P
I
will
reach
out
to
ginger
tomorrow
and
chat
with
her
to
see
if
that's
something
that
she's
interested
in
doing
in
center
south
as
well
as
other
districts,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
we
don't
have
capacity
to
to
both
put
on
these
events,
host
them
and
organize
them,
because
they
do
require
a
lot
of
work.
P
And
you
know
jacob-
and
I
have
been
talking
about
this
for
the
last
two
years
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this
more
often
and
make
it
easier
for
folks
to
participate.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity,
knowing
that
we
are
in
this
place
this
winter.
I
just
can't
speak
to
preemptively,
defining
where
or
what
those
will
look
like.
But
it
is
definitely
something
that
we
will
talk
about
at
our
next
main
streets
meeting.
P
You
know,
chambers
of
commerce
and
organizations
that
are
focused
on
small
businesses
in
areas
that
aren't
specifically
main
streets,
but
they
do
require
sponsorship
and
they
do
require
a
lead
organizer
to
to
to
coordinate
and
when
we
have
that
it
makes
it
a
lot
easier
to
to
make
these
reality.
P
But
I
appreciate
the
question
and
it's
definitely
something
we
want
to
continue
to
do.
B
Great-
and
I
guess
another
question
for
me-
is
just-
and
this
is
sort
of
about
some
of
the
constraints
related
to
departments
that
aren't
here
today,
but
I
mean
there
was
a
reference
from
leslie
to
the
snow
plowing
I
mean,
I
think.
B
Our
ability
to
have
tempting
out
on
the
public
street
where,
as
we
heard
most
of
these
locations
are
I'm
thinking
also,
I
mean
obviously
the
pedestrianization
reference
to
you
know
I
think,
to
really
do
these
at
scale.
We
need
to
figure
out
ways
to
do
them
that
don't
involve
police
details,
so
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
some
of
those
kind
of
nuts
and
bolts
city
department
norms
that
we
have
that
are
set
up.
You
know
in
ordinary
business
for
understandable
reasons,
but
to
do
any
of
this
at
like
a
greater
scale.
B
We
might
need
to
shift
them
a
bit
and
again.
I
think
that,
because
other
cities
do
it,
there
are
ways
to
do
it
safely.
I
just
wondered
if
anybody
here,
maybe
it's
leslie,
maybe
someone
else
could
speak
to
kind
of
adjusting
some
of
those
things.
I
know
I
know
the
tent
issue
has
come
up
in
the
north
end.
S
Absolutely
counselor,
I
know
we've
got
benite
and
we've
got
jacob,
so
I
won't
pretend
to
speak
for
pic,
but
the
decision
on
the
tents
on
the
public
way.
I
think
when
we're
talking
about
this,
we
have
to
remember
that
we
essentially
had
to
come
up
with
this
process
and
these
requirements
overnight
very
quickly.
So
there
is
absolutely
and
to
your
point,
counselor.
There
are
lessons
to
be
learned
from
other
other
cities
in
the
united
states,
other
cities
elsewhere.
S
The
tent
piece
was
based
on
a
very
definite
concerns
by
fire
and
public
safety
that
the
tents
would
interfere
with
sight
lines.
Another
piece
of
this
is
that,
like
I
just
said,
we
had
to
get
this
up
and
going
immediately
so
I'll
defer
to
chris
english
and
viniq
gupta,
but
I
do
know
that
part
of
our
ongoing
interdepartmental
conversations
is
about
reevaluating,
that
and
looking
at
creating
standards
that
may
make
tense
on
the
public
way
feasible.
S
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
public
safety
is
is
of
the
utmost
importance,
and
I
know
the
the
fire
department
has
been
very
clear
that
propane
heaters
under
tents
are
never
going
to
be.
Okay
right
there,
there
are
just
so
many
concerns
with
the
potential
impacts
of
if,
if
a
propane
heater
isn't
properly
installed
or
if
you
know,
there's
some
sort
of
malfunction
under
under
a
tent
that
that
is
something
that
the
fire
department
is
really
never
going
to
be.
S
Okay
with
that
being
said,
I
completely
understand
there's
plenty
of
room
to
grow
and
that's
why
we're?
Having
these
conversations,
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
all
kept
saying
was
that
we're
building
this
bike
while
we're
riding
it-
and
we
do
want
to
make
this
process
as
accessible
to
all
of
our
licensees
and
to
exist
for
as
long
into
the
into
the
colder
weather
season
as
we
can.
So
we
are
continuing
those
conversations,
even
if
we
don't
have
the
answer
right
now,.
A
Thank
you.
I
I
just
want
to
know
counselor
bach,
that
you
are
three
minutes
over
your
time,
so.
B
Thank
you,
so
thank
you
so
much.
I
am
grateful
to
all
the
panelists
from
the
administration
and
also
from
you
know
the
industry,
and
I
just
want
to
say,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
things
here
for
us
to
still
work
on
and
looking
forward
to
being
a
partner
as
a
district
counselor
for
my
neighborhoods
on
this,
and
also
just
on
how
we
can
have
a
ambitious
plan
here.
Citywide.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
I
don't
have
any
more
questions.
Really,
I
think
thinking
about
the
winter
this
winter
in
this
more
short
term,
is
something
we
we.
I
welcome
the
conversation
about,
and
I
hope
we
can.
I
hope
we
can
roll
out
some
events
that
will
help
in
the
short
term.
C
I
also
feel
that
having
a
plan
a
longer
plan
term
plan
and
getting
things
on
the
calendar
would
be
really
helpful
as
well.
So
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
participation
this
afternoon.
I
think
we
need
to
continue
talking
and
brainstorming
and
coming
up
with
ideas
and
learning
from
our
our
folks
that
play
outdoors
further
north
and
the
cold
weather.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah,
so
I
I
would
also
like
to
just
add
that
for
me
I
love
these
hearings,
because
we
get
to
hear
directly
from
the
people
who
are
living
the
realities
and
doing
the
work
so
we're
able
to
as
a
collective,
really
bring
our
our
wisdom
together
to
identify
ways
that
we
can
all
move
forward
right.
So
this
is
like
for
me.
A
I
always
see
these
hearings
as
an
opportunity
to
do
just
that,
and
I
think
that
this
hearing
was
a
great
example
of
what
that
looks
like
when
we
bring
people
across
the
city
in
different
industries
together
to
to
talk,
I
think
for
me,
because
I'm
a
problem
solver,
I'm
always
trying
to
figure
out
okay.
A
I'm
just
wondering
what
opportunities
exist
to
partner
up
with
some
of
these
universities
so
that
maybe
we
can
give
them
a
challenge
to
create
some
weatherized
tents,
and
no
I'm
serious,
you
guys
are
joking.
You
think
I'm
laughing.
No,
I'm
serious
like.
I
think
that,
if
we're
really,
how
do
we
utilize
the
power
that
we
have?
We
don't
have
much
power
as
a
city
council,
but
we
definitely
have
a
lot
of
power
in
terms
of
how
we
think
and
and
our
ability
to
bring
ideas
to
the
space.
A
And
so
I
think
that
if
we
can
all
partner
together
alongside
natalia
and
figure
out,
if
we
can
throw
out
a
challenge
out
there
for
these
universities,
mit,
like
or
tech
places-
I
don't
know
who.
A
But
I
know
that
there's
somebody
must
there
has
to
be
somebody
out
in
the
city
of
boston,
who's,
doing
business
with
us
who
is
a
university
or
whatever
that
we
can
put
out
a
challenge
and
they
can
create
a
tent
that
is
weatherized
or
heated
or
whatever
it
is,
and
if
there's
one
that
already
exists,
then
I
need
to
know
who
has
it
and
we
need
to
figure
out
how
we
can
get
them
donated,
and
maybe
we
can
do
like
a
literally
like
a
big
tent
of
sorts,
maybe
instead
of
having
a
whole
bunch
of
tents.
A
Maybe
if
we
can
get
four
big
tents,
I
don't
know
if
people
make
them,
but
if
there
are
any
that
exist
already,
maybe
we
can
have
four
or
five
and
we
can
set
them
up
across
the
city
and
different
and
restaurants
can
actually
share
literally
like
share
the
space
and-
and
I
don't
know
how
big
these
tents
are.
But
I
don't
know,
I
think,
there's
something
there
for
you
all
to
consider
for
you
all
right.
P
I
thought
you
were
taking
that
to
a
different
route
of
of
getting
some
of
these
students
to
maybe
help
coordinate,
coordinate
like
these
outdoor
winter
markets,
which
I
would
I
think,
would
be
really
fun
fun
thing
to
do
and
potentially
get
some
help
on.
A
So
all
of
that,
including
it's
everything,
it's
putting
these
universities
and
colleges
and
businesses
to
work
and
leveraging
their
their
time,
energy
and
wisdom
to
help
support
these
small
businesses.
So
it's
a
challenge
on
having
them
organize
these
upcoming
events
and
then
the
other
challenge
is
whoever
are
the
tech
savvy
people
so
that
they
can
create
heated
tents
if
they
don't
already
exist,
I'm
sure
they
do
somewhere
and
kenzie.
You
know
better
than
I
do
do
I
do
these
if
they
exist.
I
want
them
here
in
the
city
of
boston.
I.
B
Know
that
I
know
that
infrared
heaters,
I
think,
have
been
part
of
the
solution
to
the
propane
situation
that
was
being
described.
It
does
feel
like.
There
are
some
technological
solutions
we
could
pursue
here.
I
also
would
be
totally
in
favor
of
a
canopy
that
just
runs
across
some
of
these
streets.
So
as
long
as
we're
thinking
big,
but
I
totally
agree
with
you
counselor
michael,
that's
how
we've
got
to
be
thinking.
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
going
to,
I
don't
know
if
we
have
any
public
testimony
at
seeing
none.
I
am
going
to
just
close
out
by
thanking
everyone
for
participating,
I'm
going
to
gamble
us
out.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
time,
energy
and
ideas
that
came
of
this
hearing
and
I'm
going
to
gather
this
out.
So
this
hearing
is
adjourned.