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Ways & Means Working Session- Docket #0760 FY24 Budget: Budget Amendments.
A
A
A
A
B
Good
afternoon,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Daniel
Fernandez
Anderson,
the
district
7
City
councilor
I,
am
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
ways
and
means
this
working
session
is
being
recorded.
This
working
session
will
be
posted
to
the
Boston
city
council
YouTube
page
and
will
be
re-broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8
RCN
channel
82
files
channel
964..
The
council's
budget
review
process
will
Encompass
a
series
of
public
hearings
beginning
in
April
and
running
through
June.
B
We
strongly
encourage
residents
to
take
a
moment
to
engage
in
this
process
by
giving
testimony
for
the
record.
If
you
would
like
to
submit
testimony
following
this
working
session,
you
can
email
written
comments
to
the
committee
at
ccc.wm
boston.gov
for
more
information
on
the
City
Council
budget
process
and
how
to
testify
at
any
of
the
upcoming
working
sessions
or
hearing
rather
I.
Don't
think
I
hope
there
won't
be
any
further
hearings.
B
Please
visit
the
city
council's
budget
website
at
boston.gov
for
slash
Council
Dash
budget.
Today's
work
in
session
is
on
docket0760
message
in
order
for
annual
appropriation
and
tax
order
for
fy24.
Our
Focus
area
on
this
working
session
will
be
a
discussion
of
proposed
amendments
for
the
FY
24
budget.
B
For
our
format,
this
will
be
a
very
relaxed
conversational
style
working
session,
I'd
like
to
go
over
the
amendment
process.
The
charter
amendment
process
with
you-
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer
at
this
time,
then
go
straight
into
reading.
The
proposed
amendments
on
the
floor
and
at
that
point
taking
comments
by
the
order
of
arrival
from
each
in
terms
of
feedback
some
of
the
working
sessions
I'm.
Sorry,
some
of
the
Amendments
seem
pretty
obvious
need
to
community.
B
But
again
there
are
several
of
us
with
our
own
discretion,
on
what
the
community
has
advocated
for
and
what
we
feel
our
districts
need
and
what
the
large
counselors
have
heard
from
constituents
as
well
and
Advocates.
So
it's
important
that
we
all
have
an
opportunity
to
discuss
our
feedback
or
perspective
on
the
Amendments
and
then
it
is
to
my
discretion
to
put
a
report
together
just
to
review
the
process
that
we
have
already
gone
through
last
Wednesday
during
the
council
meeting.
B
These
working
sessions
and
hearings
were
poorly
attended.
Those
of
you
who
showed
up
know
exactly
what
I
mean
most
of
the
time,
with
only
about
four
counselors
attending
I
realized
that
there
was
a
whole
lot
going
on.
Some
of
us
were
being
pulled
in
different
directions,
with
responsibilities
to
redistricting,
with
responsibilities
to
our
district.
A
lot
going
on
in
the
community
as
well
so
I
extended
the
hopefully
you'll
agree
with
me.
B
Grace
of
putting
all
amendments
on
the
floor
to
allow
everyone,
a
democratic
privilege,
the
Democratic
privilege
to
be
able
to
voice
their
what
they
advocated
for.
In
the
amendment
report,
then,
in
the
council
meeting
some
folks
expressed
that
well,
Council
Flaherty
expressed
that
there
was
too
much
of
a
cut
to
BPD,
and
so
the
budget
actually
passed
with
eight
votes
and
four
of
our
counselors
who
did
not
vote
for
it.
Council
Baker
Council,
Murphy,
Council,
Clarity
and
Council
Flynn
did
not
vote
for
the
budget.
B
B
What
has
to
happen
now
is
that
we
have
to
hold
this
working
session
today
and
tomorrow
discuss
the
Amendments.
What
we
express,
what
we
care
about,
what
we
don't
make
sense
of
the
pools
and
the
auditions
in
the
budget
or
from
different
departments
and
hopefully
come
to
a
consensus.
We
don't
necessarily
all
have
to
agree.
B
What
will
happen
is
we
need
seven
votes
to
pass
the
budget
on
Wednesday
and
for
lack
of
better
words
on
Wednesday?
It
is
do
or
die
if
we
do
not
pass
the
budget.
The
mayor's
budget
goes
into
effect.
There
is
no
112.,
it
goes
into
effect
and
so
I
recommend
for
my
counselors
to
really
invest
in
this
time
today
and
tomorrow
for
us
to
be
able
to
figure
out
some
report
or
of
the
amendments
to
hopefully
pass
on
Wednesday
I'm,
also
inviting
the
administration
or
anyone
members
of
igr.
B
If
they
have
any
questions,
if
they're
going
to
approach
counselors
that
they
give
me
the
courtesy
as
a
chair
to
at
least
and
give
me
the
information
that
they're
giving
I've
asked
my
counselors.
Also
to
give
me
the
courtesy
to
ask
me
exactly
what
the
protocols,
if
they're
unclear,
so
that
I
may
clarify
before
making
last
minute
changes.
B
Without
me,
being
present,
I
would
like
the
opportunity
to
at
least
have
a
discussion
with
you,
especially
for
those
of
you
who
have
not
had
the
opportunity
to
show
up
to
all
hearings
and
working
sessions
without
further
Ado.
I
will
give
the
floor
in
the
order
of
arrival
to
my
Council
colleagues
for
their
comments.
B
As
you
know,
by
now,
I
am
doing
the
best
possible
God
willing
to
be
as
transparent
as
possible
in
my
politics
in
my
policy
in
my
delivery,
so
that
the
public
is
fully
aware
of
processes
of
understanding
these
policies
and
protocols
so
that
they
can
navigate
these
systems
and
advocate
for
themselves
so
that
we
return
the
power
to
the
people.
Hopefully
councilor
flynnum
allow
in
just
30
seconds
for
opening
statements.
You
have
the
floor.
C
One
other
point
is
a
25
000
increase
to
the
Family
Justice
Center
out
in
Austin
and
Brighton
area,
which
would
provide
the
personnel
there
the
opportunity
for
training
and
to
go
to
various
conferences,
professional
development,
it's
critical
when
you're
in
that
field
to
to
learn
about
Trends
in
domestic
violence
and
child
abuse,
sexual
assault,
so
I'm
asking
for
a
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
for
the
Family
Justice
Center,
no
further
comment
or
no
further
questions.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
D
Thank
you,
chair,
I'm,
just
happy
to
be
here
to
go
through
the
Amendments
and
hoping
that
we
can
have
a
conversation.
I
think
we
all
agreed
last
week
that
most
of
us,
if
not
all
of
us,
think
each
of
these
amendments
that
came
forward
are
valid
and
would
be
good
to
see
if
they're
not
already
funded.
But
how
do
we
sustain
them?
This
isn't
an
opera
conversation
that
we
did
go
through
last
year,
where
we
knew
it
was
once
in
a
chain.
D
D
E
Coletta,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I,
want
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
during
this
process.
You've
been
extremely
diligent
and
you
have
held
working
sessions
ahead
of
the
vote.
I'm
happy
that
we
have.
We
have
a
full
participation
here,
a
full
to
our
almost
full
participation
so
that
we
can
discuss
these
line
items
and
I
think
that's
what
I've
been
looking
for,
but
I
do
understand
that
it's
our
fiduciary
responsibility
to
protect
vital
city
services
and
programming
existing
and
future
employees
and
the
physical
health
of
the
city
of
Boston
I.
E
Ultimately
voted
no
last
week
because
in
review
of
the
committee
report,
I
felt,
like
I,
wasn't
upholding
the
majority
of
what
I
just
mentioned.
There
were
substantial
cuts
to
city
employees
and
Personnel
close
to
25
million
and
without
the
police
department
budget,
nine
million
of
permanent
or
or
contracted
employees,
and
so
as
we're
growing
as
a
city.
E
We
need
to
understand
that
human
impact
that
very
real
impact
on
city
services
and
my
issue
again
is
not
around
the
contents
of
these
proposals,
but
more
so
the
the
amounts
I
think
it's
unrealistic
to
to
put
forth
some
of
these.
These
amounts
without
acknowledging
again
the
real
and
serious
implications
of
of
city
services,
so
I
am
happy
to
hear
that
we'll
be
going
line
by
line
having
this
discussion,
understanding
the
impacts
and
then
figuring
out,
because
we
do
ultimately
need
seven
tomorrow,
so
that
we
do
not
default
back
to
the
mayor's
budget.
E
B
E
B
B
The
difficult
or
the
challenge
that
we
have
is.
We
have
to
make
decisions
about
what
is
priority
and
some
departments
have
expressed
in
hearings
that
they're
having
they
are.
They
were
having
a
difficult
time
with
building
capacity,
increasing
staff,
and
so
in
the
Amendments.
You
have
to
find
the
money
somewhere.
You
can
you
it's
it's
moving
of
my
funds,
and
so
it's
deciding
what
is
your
priority
and
then
the
second
part
of
that
clarification
is
that
again,
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
I
did
not
use
bias.
B
What
we're
speaking
about
in
terms
of
what
our
priorities
are,
and
so
I
I'm
just
choosing
to
do
that,
because
I
know
that
half
of
us
were
not
here
not
as
a
not
as
a
rebuttal,
but
just
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
on
the
same
page,
because
as
the
attendance
increases
I
will
catch
everybody
today
and
then
Council
colada
mentioned
tomorrow.
The
vote
is
on
Wednesday.
E
E
We
know
that,
but
I
think
there
was
an
assumption
that
we
would
not
fill
these
vacancies
or
that
we
would
be
at
the
same
level
as
next
year
and
so
and
we
know
that
there's
going
to
be
turnover
so
that
way
we
have
more
money
when
it
comes
to
Personnel,
but
to
to
cover
the
nine
million
dollars
worth
of
cuts.
I'm,
not
sure
that
it
necessarily
was
there
I'm
happy
to
review
the
details
and
talk
through
it.
Yeah.
B
Let's
talk
about
it
when
we
get
to
that
I.
That's
also
inaccurate,
because
the
so
the
intention
was,
for
example,
counselors
will
give
me
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
finish
my
format
as
of
what
we
were
doing,
but
counselors
will
give
me.
For
example,
say
you
wanted
to
cut
from
a
department.
Another
Council
wanted
to
come
from
that
department.
I
would
then
send
them
back
a
recommendation.
B
So
that's
that's
also
inaccurate,
but
we
can
go
through
the
numbers
and
we
can
look
at
it
one
by
one
and
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here
with
you
guys,
because
finally,
we
get
to
get
into
the
the
micro
levels
of
things
that
I
really
wanted
to
get
to
originally
get
into
and
I.
Thank
you,
Council
clutter
and
well
Council
Morrell,
who
was
always
here
for
working
sessions
and
Council
media
I,
really
appreciate
you
and
Council
Flynn
counselor
Baker.
G
Thank
you,
councilor
Anderson,
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
just
looking
to
get
to
work.
I
love
the
idea
that
we're
now
going
to
be
putting
the
Amendments
for
it
and
seeing
who
supports
so
that
we
could
come
to
a
decision
on
Wednesday.
So
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
just
looking
to
get
to
work.
H
H
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
be
adding
to
the
conversation
based
on
the
feedback
that
we
received
last
week
and
I
am
going
to
stick
to
understanding
that
there
are
some
things
that
Community
has
asked
for,
and
I
am
going
to
manage
my
expectations
on
some
of
the
other
things
that
I've
asked
for,
because
this
is
about
compromise
and
I
know
that
everyone's
going
to
get
what
they
want.
So
I'm
going
to
be
open
to
managing
my
own
expectations,
but
not
watering
down
the
expectations
of
those
who
I
serve.
Thank
you.
H
B
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Nothing
really
just
that
I
I
think
I
only
have
two
amendments
in
here:
they're
going
to
be
a
total
allocation
for
the
million
240
000
and
so
I
guess
we
we
can
do
whatever
the
format
you're
gonna
do
I'm,
just
gonna
follow
that
in
terms
of
how
things
get
presented,
how
we
move.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
urging
colleagues
to
just
to
be
realistic
and
to
manage
constituents
expectations.
We
all
get
pulled
in
a
thousand
directions.
There's
a
whole
list
here
of
amendments.
You
know
clearly
in
a
perfect
scenario,
make
terrific
sense
you
know,
provided
we
didn't,
have
the
pull
from
other
departments
and
other
other
areas,
so
just
asking
if
we
all
came
forward
with,
say,
20
or
25
million
amen
dollars
of
amendments
that
would
be
somewhere
north
of
300
million
dollars.
It's
just
not
not
reasonable
to
to
expect
that.
J
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
helping
us
do
with
this
process.
I
I
think
a
lot
of
these
amendments
are
noble
amendments.
My
amendments
are
made
care,
we're
very
careful
not
pulling
from
Personnel
I.
Think,
for
the
reasons
that
were
laid
out
pulling
from
Personnel
can
be
somewhat
tricky,
especially.
K
B
E
This
is
one
of
those
instances
where
it
does
pull
from
I'm,
looking
at
the
Law
Department
about
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
then
seeing
that
this
is
a
noble
again,
a
noble
and
worthy
cause.
We
do
have
the
cultural
space
fund
out
of
moak
that
is
funded
at
1.335
million
dollars
right
now
and
so
I'm
wondering
what
is
what
is
the
difference
between
that
fund
and
then
what
this
fund
hopes
to
achieve?
E
B
It's
just
not
enough
being
the
chair,
you
understand
I'm
an
artist
myself
and
you
should
produce
theater,
Productions
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
artists
have
lost
their
spaces
working
space,
livable
spaces
as
well
as
just
performance
space.
We
had
a
hearing
you
chaired
and
after
talking
to
Advocates
and
people
that
are
still
in
dire
need.
B
I
did
speak
with
the
again
the
Advocates,
but
also
the
organizations
that
are
working
to
do
this.
The
funds
that
were
moved
to
that
program
helped
tremendously,
but
they
could
definitely
use
more
money
now,
where
it's
coming
from
obviously
is
is
the
contention
here
in
terms
of
700
000,
again
I
pulled
because
I
felt
like
the
Law
Department.
B
E
Money
and
I
do
I
do
think
that
it
does
need
more
money.
I
am
willing
to
to
support
this
amendment
as
long
as
it's
not
coming
from
from
personnel
and
I.
Also
just
want
a
flag
too,
that
there
is
another
amendment
from
Council
Lara
to
1.4
million
dollars
going
directly
into
this
fund
again.
So
that's
an
additional
I,
don't
even
know
1.9
plus
1.4
million
dollars
going
into
this
fund,
so
I'm.
E
D
E
B
Thank
you,
I
I
am
going
to
highlight
this
in
terms
of
the
Law
Department
permanent
and
we
can
come
back
to
it.
Thank
you,
Jeff
no
problem
now
as
far
as
yes,
sir,
as
far
as
consulars,
so
there
was
like
some
minor
confusion.
She
mentioned
that
it
wasn't
the
same.
It
was
going
this
this
particular
program
was
the
Space
Program.
B
A
G
B
B
Technical
employee,
so
basically
Ethan
needs
an
assistant
in
general,
and
but
he
also-
and
this
assistant
would
also
like-
provide
some
of
that
technical
assistance
to
update
our
websites.
I
mean
our
web
pages
on
the
city's
website
and
so
ethany's
an
FTE
period
to
a
system
and
then
the
dollars
here
obviously
doesn't
equal
the
salary.
It's
all
Incorporated,
all
other
contingent
amounts
Incorporated
I
guess
would.
Does
anyone
have
any
feedback
on
this
one
where
it's
coming
from?
J
If
you're
just
a
general
question,
not
on
this
issue
but
I
guess,
the
question
I
have
is
in
obviously
the
interest
of
time
have
since
Wednesday.
Have
our
colleagues
taken
a
look
at
their
amendments
and
have
they
sort
of
refocused
and
sharpened
their
pencil
if
you
will
so
that
if
they've
taken
them
off
the
book,
so,
for
example,
if
there's.
B
J
J
J
The
field
on
passage-
and
so
my
question
I
guess
is:
should
we
be
going
through
that
exercise
or
would
timing
better
spend
if
counselors
were
able
to
sort
of
sharpen
their
focus
and
put
forth
I?
Guess
what
I
would
should
it
be
more
realistic
amendments
so
that
we
as
a
council
can
use
our
Collective
Strength
and
leverage
that,
as
opposed
to
just
going
through
line
and
by
line
and
of
all
the
Amendments
I?
B
Council
Flaherty,
unfortunately,
I
hear
what
you're
saying
so,
if
I,
for
example,
if
I
take
this
and
I
prioritize
just
to
talk
about
what
you
want
to
talk
about,
because
those
are
the
priorities
for
you,
then
what
about
everybody
else
and
what
their
priorities
are?
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
actually
triage
whose
priority
should
go
first
or
what
we
should
talk
about
first,
instead
I'm
going
through
a
list
because
one
propels
into
the
other.
B
We
cannot
talk
about
the
budget
without
looking
at
the
entire
list,
because
maybe
I'm
cutting
something
that
lujin
proposed
and
I'm,
adding
something
that
I
proposed.
Maybe
it's
the
other
way
around.
I
won't
know
that
unless
we
talk
about
it,
we
have
to
go
through
it.
I
have
to
start
chopping
this
up
one
by
one.
If
you
want
me
to
do
this
by
myself
and
save
time
for
the
council,
I
would
do
that
again.
You
may
not
like
that
result.
The
point
of
building
consensus
here
is
supposed
to
do
it
together.
A.
J
J
If
individual
colleagues
would
have
came
to
the
table
to
withdraw
some
of
that.
Some
of
those
amendments
that
are
not
realistic
in
this
budget
and
then
give
you
a
starting
point,
a
stepping
off
point,
instead
of
it
being
75
million.
Maybe
the
stepping
off
point
is
at
25
million.
This
afraid
was.
It
was
really
a
friendly
suggestion.
B
Underlining
definition
of
what
you
say,
though,
is
not
I'm
saying
to
you
that
I
could
cut
it
down
and
that,
if
easier,
is
what
you're
saying
the
objective
is
or
being
time
conducive
that
is
not
guaranteed,
because
I
could
cut
it
down.
I
can
come
here
in
front
of
the
body
and
folks
would
have
disagreement,
no
matter
what
what
happened
to
my
stuff
or
I
didn't
want
to
do
that.
I
wanted
to
do
this
and
believe
you
me
this
75
million
that
I've
gone
through
night
after
night
after
night
with
Karishma
is
not
easy.
B
I
agree
with
you,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
the
best
process,
because
it
excludes
people's
priorities.
I
want
to
hear
what
people's
priorities
are.
If
you
want
me
to
skip
mine
because
I
started
with
mine
and
get
right
to
the
people
that
are
present,
that's
okay,
too,
but
again
it's
supposed
to
be
a
cohesive
process.
We're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
unless
we
look
at
all
of
the
Departments
and
what
hits
they're
taking
so
that
we
can
make
sense
out
of
each
Amendment
I,
don't
want
to
make
that
decision
alone.
I!
B
J
J
B
J
J
Say
if
there
are
things
that
are
not
realistic,
then
then
we
need
to
put
pen
to
paper
on
what
is
realistic
so
that
we're
not
wasting
all
of
our
time
as
well
as
the
Public's
time
and
going
through
this
process.
We
could
go
through
the
painstaking
process
of
75
million
line
item
by
line
and
by
line
them.
That's
fine.
We
already
know
the
reality
of
that
that
no
mayor
is
going
to
sign
that
budget.
J
That's
coming
over
with
75
million
to
mentioned,
and
no
colleagues
of
mine
at
least
I
know
I
can't
support
cutting
the
Boston
Police
Department
for
to
42.5
million
dollars,
just
not
realistic.
Let's
get
to
a
realistic
point.
So
if
our
colleagues
have
done
some
homework
over
the
weekend
and
looked
at
their
budget
amendments
and
identified,
which
ones
she's
not
realistic,
maybe
I
can
get
that
one
next
year
or
geez,
that's
a
little
heavy.
B
B
Someone
else
thinks
that
we
shouldn't,
and
it's
not
for
the
mayor
to
just
it's
not
for
us
to
just
do
exactly
what
the
mayor
is
expecting
or
want
it's
for
us
to
do
the
amendment
process
and
try
to
come
to
some
sort
of
vote.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I've
taken
all
of
your
points,
I'm
happy
to
ask
my
colleagues
if
they
want
to
come
back
in
about
20
minutes
and
chop
down
some
of
this
list.
If
folks
don't
agree,
if
the
majority
don't
agree
here,
we're
going
to
keep.
J
Going
and
thank
you
manager,
and
that
would
make
sense
other
than
that
we're
just
going
to
have
the
same
75
that
we
had
last
Wednesday
for
this
Wednesday
and
we
really
haven't
made
any
progress
if
folks
haven't
done
the
Deep
dive
and
trapping
their
pencils.
That's
all
so
I
appreciate
that
if
it
requires
a
brief
recess
and
folks
can
also.
J
J
I
mean
car
five,
it
doesn't
make
sense
is
from
conversations
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
going
to
happen,
but
a
lot
of
other
stuff.
It's
looks
like
it
could
happen,
and
some
of
the
stuff
is
also
supported
by
some
of
our
other
colleagues
in
terms
of
increase
in
Hokies
and
increase
in
inspectors,
particularly
the
increase
for
motor
vehicle
operators
over
the
parks
department.
J
So
so,
if
my,
if
my
one
big
ticket
item
has
to
come
off
for
the
sake
of
all
of
us,
getting
something
out
of
this
budget
team
player
sign
me
up,
but
I'm
not
going
to
come
in
and
dump
20
million
dollars
of
unrealistic
amendments
on
your
plate
and
then
not
walk,
some
of
them
back
and
manage
expectations
of
the
public,
arguably
playing
to
the
cheap
seats
and
giving
this
expectation
that
people
are
going
to
get
something
out
of
this
budget.
That's
just
not
realistic.
B
B
J
B
F
Here,
I
think
that
should
and
again
just
just
making
a
suggestion
similar
to
what
my
colleague
had
I
think
that
the
600
million
in
in
housing
dollars.
We
should
see
what
the
administration,
how
they're
going
to
use
it,
how
they're
going
to
spend
it
and
work
within
our
guidelines
to
have
them
build
projects
or
or
or
things
like
that,
with
the
money
that
we've
already
approved
for
them.
F
There's
certain
things
in
here
that
call
for
more
vouchers
and
more
vouchers
are
needed,
but
that's
also
something
that
if
it's
5
million
this
year,
it's
6
million
next
year,
it's
7
million
the
year
after.
So
that's
a
graduated.
That's
a
graduated
thing
this!
The
this
whole
process
concerns
me,
but
I'll
leave
that
at
the
table.
B
F
The
whole
going
in
and
and
being
in
the
city
for
30,
30
plus
years
and
knowing
the
Departments
and
knowing
how
the
department
heads
fight
for
their
departments
I'm
just
a
little
uncomfortable
going
in
and
cutting
up
the
apartments,
whether
if
it's
police,
whether
it's,
whether
it's
I
mean
Public
Works
I,
keep
seeing
on
here,
we
need
Public.
Works
needs
more
public.
You
know
that's
where
our
speed
bumps
and
all.
B
F
F
It
takes
so
it
takes
those
finances.
Just
throws
them
up
in
the
air
I.
Don't
I,
don't
think
it's
I
I
think
it
can
be
problems
especially
down
the
line.
Not
this
year,
not
last
year,
maybe
not
even
next
year.
Five
six
seven
years,
I
think
it
can
absolutely
be
problems.
So
that's
that's
just
a
thought.
I
only
have
one
amendment
I
think
and
it
was
for
the
security
guards.
It
was
inter
interdepartmental.
It
was
taking
from
overtime
which
I
believe
if
we
hire
it
more.
B
F
Personnel
is
absolutely
going
to
be
affected
and
even
even
if
we're
not
cutting
directly
from
a
Personnel
here,
you
take
monies
from
departments.
Personnel
will
be
affected
absolutely
100
again,
maybe
not
this
year.
Maybe
not
this
budget
next
year
I
mean
next
year's
budget.
Already
the
the
Apple
money
be
gone,
our
tax
rolls
potentially
going
to
be
lighter
than
they
are
this
year
so
next
year,
something
that
we
haven't
had
in
in
I've
been
here
12
years
in
the
last
10
years.
My
first
questions
were
always
how
many
layoffs
this
year.
F
B
H
You
chair,
you
know
I
just
want
to
say
that
this
is
a
difficult
process.
I
always
feel
like
this
is
The
Hunger,
Games
and
everybody's,
like
fending
for
themselves
and
I.
Understand
that
it's
hard
for
us
to
reach
a
compromise
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
and
I
also
want
to
note
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
make
some
difficult
compromises
here.
If
we're
going
to
get
to
a
place
where
everybody
feels
like
they've
gotten.
Something
and
they've
lost
something
right.
So,
let's
just
like.
H
If,
if
anything
that
we
have
learned
in
working
together
as
a
body,
is
that
not
everyone's
going
to
get
what
they
want?
And
we
have
to
be?
Okay
with
that
and
I
know
that
that's
difficult,
because
we
have
people
who
put
us
in
these
positions
to
fight
for
things,
and
they
expect
us
to
do
that
and
be
Unapologetic
about
those
things.
H
I
think
it's
really
important
for
us
to
be
mindful
that
we
have
been
given
this
alleged
power
to
be
able
to
advocate
for
what
we
believe
the
city
needs,
because
we
are
responsible
for
the
city
as
a
whole
and
we
represent
our
district
constituents
and
our
constituents
are
calling
us
about
X,
Y
and
Z.
So
it's
not
like
we're
just
making
things
up
like
this
information
has
come
from
a
place
of
being
in
deep
Community
with
those
that
we
serve
right
because
of
that
I'm
gonna.
B
Like
to
sorry
before
you
go
on
Council
Mejia,
we
I
have
not
allowed
for
this
process.
That's
happening
right
now,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
do
that,
let's
take
some
sort
of
you
know
raised
hand
what
you
guys
want
to
do.
If
the
majority
of
you
want
to
step
away
and
start
chopping
away
at
your
or
cutting
away
some
of
your
amendments,
then,
let's
by
show
of
hands.
If
we
have
a
majority,
then
we'll
take
a
break
and
then
we'll
come
back
in
here
and
we'll
do
that
process.
H
H
I'm
just
saying
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
showing
up
in
a
way
that
helps
people
understand
that
I'm
here
to
do
the
work
and
I'm
here
for
that
work
and
if
I'm
going
to
make
those
compromises
that
I'm
going
to
make
some
people
feel
uncomfortable
right.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
have
to
manage
everybody's
expectations,
including
those
who
put
us
in
office
right
because
asking
for
40
million
for
PB
and
then
going
down
to
20
and
understanding
that
the
administration
is
not
going
to
be
there.
H
Then
we're
going
to
have
to
make
some
compromises
in
terms
of
what
that
bottom
line
number
looks
like
right
and
those
are
the
sort
of
things
that
we're
going
to
have
to
do
to
Grapple
with
what
this
moment
calls
for.
But
what
I
won't
do
right.
What
I
won't
do
is
sit
behind
these
Sidelines
and
just
shrug
my
shoulders
and
say
we
tried,
because
if
we
really
didn't
try
to
fight
for
the
things
that
we
all
know
is
what
this
moment
calls
for.
Then
it's
just
political,
theater
and
I
I.
H
Are
you?
Are
you
all
set,
no
I'm?
The
last
thing
that
I'll
say
is
that
if
this
is
my
fourth
budget,
the
first
one
I
didn't
even
know
we
were
negotiating
behind
the
scenes.
The
whole
process
is
undemocratic
and
it
is
disgusting,
and
so
if
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
transparent
and
show
up
for
people
so
that
people
know
who
we
really
are,
then
I
want
to
go
through
this
process
publicly
and
fight
for
the
things
that
I
want
publicly.
So
I
appreciate
you
creating
that
space
for
us
to
do
that.
B
We
all
understand
that
this
is
just
the
first
process
on
Wednesday
when
we
passed
it
at
first
and
then
two
counselors
took
back
to
change
their
position
on
their
votes.
It
did
not
officially
pass
the
budget
all
it
did
it
passed
it
to
go
to
the
mayor's
office
for
her
review
and
to
veto
and
tevido
or
to
veto
with
suggestions.
She
could
veto
it
with
no
suggestions.
She
can
veto
it
with
suggestions.
B
K
Okay,
so
to
counselor,
Flaherty's
Point
willing
to
either
via
recess
or
now
make
the
changes
to
amendments
to
Whittle.
That
down.
I
also
think,
like
you
know,
a
suggestion
for
the
chair,
not
sure
if
this
is
feasible,
but
should
there
be
a
limit
or
should
we
try
to
like
cap?
What
request
is
coming
from
Individual
counselors?
Some
of
them
are
like
one
counselor
is
offering
it,
but
it's
having
a
lot
of
support.
K
So
Council
Flaherty,
put
in
for
car
five,
for
example,
I
put
in
for
car
five
as
well:
counselor
Flaherty
who's,
taking
the
lead
on
that
and
has
withdrawn
that
I'm
not
going
to
then
say
no
car
5
must
remain
in,
although
I
too
would
like
to
see
car
five,
that's
something
that's
withdrawn,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
would
make
the
process
easier.
Seeing
that
if
we
you
know
last
year,
we
did
17
million
dollars,
we're
talking
about
a
lot
more,
that's
being
offered
here.
I
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
ask
is
that
all
of
all
of
the
cuts
and
additions
make
sense.
In
other
words,
if
I
add
a
million
and
a
half
to
one
department,
but
then
you
take
a
million
and
a
half
out
of
that
same
Department
somewhere
else
and
put
it
somewhere
else,
then
that
wouldn't
necessarily
make
sense.
I
So
we
would
just
want
to
make
sense
that
the
books
add
up,
but
I,
don't
know
that
it
makes
sense
for
people
to
weigh
in
on
every
single
individual
Amendment,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
voting
on
this
as
a
total
package.
And
we
did
this
last
time
and
I
think
every
Amendment
went
up
nearly
universally
or
at
least
with
a
majority
for
in
terms
of
what
it
would
take
for
a
super
majority
to
pass
it.
And
then,
when
it
came
back
with
vetoes,
it
didn't
mean
anything.
I
They
basically
voted
against
overriding
those
vetoes
and
so
I.
Think
at
the
end
of
the
day.
What's
the
point
of
that?
If
it's
not
going
to
amount
to
an
actual
vote
for
it,
where
it
matters,
because
we
are
early
in
the
process,
so
as
long
as
the
finances
make
sense,
in
other
words,
I
think
I
heard
folks
put
money
into
one
department
and
then
that
money
was
taken
out
from
other
amendments,
and
so,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that
department
had
like
less
money
than
what
they
were
trying
to
put
in.
I
B
Not
really
because,
for
example,
it's
about
prioritizing
policy
or
programs
that
we,
the
counselors,
are
advocating
or
prioritizing
so,
for
example,
even
if
you
are
moving
funds,
specifically
it's
about
creating
line
items
and
whether
that
overall
Department's
budget
Remains
the
Same
or
takes
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
decrease.
It
doesn't
matter,
it's
a
again.
B
It's
about
prioritizing
our
line
items,
and
so,
if
you
move-
and
you
add
program
a
and
will
Raul
removes
money
to
add
program,
B
doesn't
matter
it's
about
the
line
item
overall,
being
prioritized,
that's
one
thing
and
the
other
part
is
I
specifically
started
this
process
by
decreasing.
My
amendments
into
half
I
can't
tell
my
Council
colleagues
exactly
what
to
do
or
whether
or
not
you
that
you
Council
flare
did
your
homework,
because
you
have
only
three
or
four
amendments
in
there.
B
So
it's
easy
to
just
be
like
okay,
this
one
I'll
I'll
chop
this
one,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
only
speak
on
your
amendments,
console
Clarity
started
by
interjecting
when
I
was
presenting
my
priorities.
If
I
had
20
I
was
only
going
to
present
about
seven
and
I
stated
that
you
then
interjected
and
repeated
exactly
what
I
was
doing
so
I'm
just
saying:
can
we
move
on
with
the
process
if
you're
not
ready
with
what
you're
going
to
list
today,
then
you
feel
free
to
step
away.
This
process
is
transparent.
It's
here.
I
Oh
okay,
because
I
only
have
two
amendments
and
so
I
don't
think
it
doesn't
I've
already
said
them,
I'm
happy
to
see
him
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
I'm,
just
gonna
follow
whatever
process
you
put
forward.
I
was
just
here
to
do
whatever
order,
you're
doing
it,
but
I
just
think
it
makes
sense
to
do
it
that
way,
rather
than
to
make
this
take
a
long
time
with
hands
up
hands
down,
hands
up,
hands
down.
I
think
some
folks,
just
within
reason,
should
should
be
trying
to
come
to
an
agreement.
B
I
mean
I,
don't
know
what
else
to
tell
you.
I
am
here
doing
this
process.
I
haven't
even
had
the
opportunity
to
go
through
it.
We
don't
know
how
long
it's
going
to
take,
and
it's
already
like.
Oh
it's
taking
too
long,
and
it
only
took
10
first
10
minutes.
So
what
I
was
gonna?
What
I'm
saying
is
chop
down
your
list
to
half
whatever
your
priorities
are.
Let
me
finish
with
my
process
and
allow
me
to
chair
this
thing.
Allow
me
to
go
through
my
list.
B
I
did
mention,
I
did
say
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
all
of
them.
I've
prioritized
only
what
I
think
are
priorities
for
me.
I've
chopped
down
my
list
in
half
and
then
it
comes
with
flarity
literally
went
and
repeated
the
same
thing.
I
was
saying
so
I'm
saying
now:
can
we
move
on
with
the
process
and
not
continue
to
go
back
and
forth
on
it?
B
If
you
have
I'm
I
think
that
asking
for
people
to
raise
hands
of
recess
only
consolation
mentioned
that
she
thought
that
was
a
good
idea
and
I
think
you're,
saying
the
same
thing.
It's
time
consuming
and
I'm,
saying
to
you,
you
know
what
feel
free
to
step
out
outside
and
cut
down
your
list
to
half.
If
you
you're,
ready
to
present
what's
priority
to
you,
I
will
call
on
you
and
we'll
keep
it
moving.
B
B
H
H
It
would
be
helpful
for
me
to
know
if,
during
the
working
session,
if
I
can
get
some
feedback
from
my
colleagues
in
terms
of
it's
not
20,
what
would
be
a
reasonable
line
item
a
place
to
start
in
terms
of
negotiating,
and
then
the
last
thing
that
I'll
say
is.
Is
that
you
know
we
we're
acting
like?
We
don't
have
power
and
we
do.
H
Just
don't
understand
why
we
keep
negotiating
against
our
own
selves
here
when
we
can
ask
for
the
things
I
understand,
75
million
dollars
might
be
a
little
bit
too
much,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
be.
You
know
watering
it
down
all
that
much
because
then,
what
what
does
that
say
about
us?
Let's.
B
Take
a
record:
let's
take
a
collection
of
a
recollection
of
what
hap
took
place
last
year
last
year
we
actually
proposed
56
million,
and
it
was
our
first
year
with
the
process.
We,
the
total
was
started
at
about.
70
million
went
down
to
56
million,
and
we
did
a
process
like
this
and
we
cut
it
down
to
27
million.
B
I
was
going
to
leave
it
to
go
to
meru.
She
would
then
say
she
would
then
chop
it
off
and
figure
out
what
to
say
no
to
and
what
to
say
yes
to,
and
so
it's
sort
of
the
same
thing
that
happened
last
year.
It
is
no
difference,
except
last
year
we
were
really
really
really
present
in
the
working
sessions.
Councilor
Coletta
was
it
were
you
first.
E
E
E
Just
to
better
understand
exactly
what
my
line
item
should
look
like
and
to
fund
some
programming
and
and
Personnel
in
the
city
of
Boston.
So
I
will
just
ask
that
folks,
who
have
put
maybe
double
digit
million
dollar
proposals
on
the
table,
really
take
a
look
and
append
to
their
amendments
and
I
am
willing
to
continue
this
conversation,
and
just
compromise
and
I
do
appreciate
the
the
spirit
of
what
councilmania
was
saying
that
we
all
understand
that
we
have
to
get
to
a
place.
E
Think
that
that's
very
important
and
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
go
amendment
by
Amendment
to
understand
what
will
pass,
because
every
individual
part
will
be
a
part
of
this
package
that
you're
putting
forth,
and
if
some
of
us
don't
agree
with
what's
in
there,
then
some
of
us,
we
won't
know
so
I,
do
think
it's
important
to
go
line
by
line,
but
for
now
recessing
and
figuring
out
who's
willing
to
cut.
Thank
you
chair.
D
Just
one
quick
before
we
break-
and
it's
been
touched
upon
a
little
but
just
to
get
a
ballpark
if
we
try
to
come
in
at
17
million,
that's
1.4
each
there's
12
of
us
and
everyone
knows
that.
There's
a
range
and
not
all
of
us
can
cut.
If
Ed.
If
council
president
Flynn
cut
he'd
have
none,
he
only
put
forth
one
right
and
many
people
just
so.
The
public
knows
I
mean
everything
is
political
and
I
know
Council
lugen.
You
mentioned
that
a
few
of
us
signed
on
to
others.
D
D
I
know
and
I
do
appreciate
that
you
came
forward
this
time
to
say:
hey
I'm,
not
saying
no
to
any
and
let
the
mayor
decide
but
we're
in
a
place
now,
where
we're
going
to
take
a
break
and
come
back
because
I'm
very
willing
to
cut
just
not
sure
how
much
I
don't
want
to
come
back.
You
know
and
be
the
one
who
cut
it
all
and
then
realize
Maybe.
B
A
B
B
However,
I
understand
that
you're
saying
you
know,
all
of
you
are
saying
mod
you
know
to
come
to
a
modest
amount
is
how
we
will
get
to
Seven
votes,
even
though
we
had
eight
no,
what
sounds
what
what's
on
the
floor
is?
If
we
don't
cut
the
police
budget,
we'll
get
to
Seven
votes
and
maybe
more
that's
what's
on
the
floor,
and
then
the
other
part
is
in
terms
of
the
Break
I
I
actually
know
exactly
what
the
math
is.
B
I
actually
know
how
much
there's
a
handful
of
us
here
that
I
would
say
does
console
are
myself
could
really
put
together
an
amendment
like
that
and
I
know,
because
I
look
at
their
amendments
and
I,
look
at
their
numbers
and
I
know
they've
done
their
homework.
I
can
tell
that
they
know
so.
I
actually
know
exactly
what
to
keep
what
not
to
keep
in
order
to
to
get
the
vote
tomorrow.
I
know
that
it's
not
about
me
it's
about
us
together
and
so
I
have
to
lead
that
way
and
it's
a
challenging
process.
C
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I
apologize
for
being
out
for
several
minutes.
I
I
had
a
meeting
that
I
had
to
attend,
so
I
know,
I
missed
some
of
it.
I
guess
my
my
question
is
and
I
I
certainly
can
ask
my
colleagues
on
the
break,
but
is
there?
Is
there
a
kind
of
a
ballpark
figure
that
we
all
are
trying
to
be
reasonable
about
that?
We're
advocating
you
know
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
each
in
amendments
or
or
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
each
in
amendments?
C
Are
we
trying
to
be
reasonable,
or
are
we
trying
to
be
all
inclusive
of
all
of
all
amendments
in
making
it
a
wish
list,
or
are
we
also
or
do
we
also
understand
that
we
are
going
into
difficult,
Financial,
Economic
Times,
and
is
that
also
a
priority
for
us
is
making
sure
that
the
interest
of
the
city
in
its
budget
are
protected?
I
just
wanted
to
see
what
what
your
thoughts
might
be.
Madam
chair.
B
Council
president
Flynn,
thank
you
for
your
question.
I
I
think
your
question
is
very
similar
to
councilor
Murphy's,
in
that,
if
I
have
a
ballpark
figure
of
what
I
think
is
safe,
I,
don't
I
do
have
a
ballpark
figure.
In
my
mind,
I
just
and
I
know
exactly
what
the
numbers
would
look
like
and
I
know
exactly
what
departments
and
they
would
be
very
modest
and
we
could
get
to
Seven.
That's
easy!
It's
not
that's!
Not
it,
though.
B
H
Thank
you,
I'm
just
curious
chair.
If
we're
looking
at
the
budget
for
allocation
per
resident
like
looking
at
how
much
residents
in
Dorchester
as
opposed
to
other,
is
there?
Is
there
any
data
about
kind
of
like
what
that
looks
like,
so
that
could
help
inform
some
of
our
thinking
I'm
just
curious
as
we
continue
to
move
through
this
process.
If
we
want
to
like
come
to
some
sort
of
agreement,
that
is
fair,
I
mean
I'm.
H
B
Unfortunately,
because
it's
an
operating
budget,
the
services
are
supposed
to
be
for
everybody
executed
city-wide,
so
you
can
do
per
capita
in
a
capital
budget
like
to
do
a
study
like
that.
You'd
have
to
go
through
tremendous
surveying
of
responses.
I
did
that
with
3-1-1.
Remember
yeah
a
couple
almost
couple
years
ago,
but
even
then
it's
very
difficult
to
to
actually
make
it
super
thorough
it
wasn't.
B
It
wasn't
as
thorough
as
I
wanted
it
to
be,
because
it's
only
3-1-1
calls
can
we
say
is
20
minutes
good
for
people
15
I,
don't
no
he's
all
set
I!
Don't
I!
Don't
want
folks
that
are
here,
constituents
that
are
here
in
the
audience
to
wait
too
long.
Can
we
get
a
nod
or
yes,
15,
minutes,
good?
Okay,
we
have
recess.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
I
wanted
to
thank
the
members
of
the
public
who
are
still
here
with
us,
and
thank
you
to
my
counselors
for
bearing
with
us.
While
we
take
that
recess
and
I
wanted
to
just
start
straight
to
anyone
who
was
willing
to
offer
their
I
guess
amendments
or
whether
reduced
or
not
again,
I'm
listening,
I
am
taking
notes
for
my
final
report
for
Wednesday
and
then
I
guess
also
getting
a
consensus
of
whether
or
not
we
need
the
working
session
tomorrow.
Come
solution.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
wanted
to
start
off
by
saying
again
I
think
included
when
I
was
including
in
my
total
I
was
including
car.
Five,
so
I
do
see.
Taking
car
5
out
as
casual
Florida
did
is
reducing
My
overall
Amendment
asks
another
one
that
I
am
removing
only
for
the
purposes
of
of
of
trying
to
show
compromise.
Here
we
held
a
hearing
on
the
disaster
emergency
relief
fund.
K
We
had
the
city
of
Cambridge
come.
We
see
the
work
that
the
fire
department
does
all
the
time,
including
yesterday
in
Cummins,
Highway
and
other
areas.
The
importance
for
us
to
be
able
to
help
our
residents,
who
are
experiencing
trauma
by
having
more
coordinated
services
with
both
that
and
engage
both
the
private
sector
in
helping
our
families
get
back
on
their
feet.
I
think
in
FTE
a
a
position
devoted
to
helping
with
this
private
public
disaster.
K
Emergency
fund
is
important
and
Noble,
but
I
am
willing
to
shelve
it
for
the
moment
and
continue
to
discuss
with
the
administration
on
this
being
a
reality,
so
that
75
000
request
I'm
pulling
in
addition
to
the
1.2
million
dollar
for
car
five
and
I
just
want
to
run
through
some
of
my
other
amendments
that
first
chunk
that
total
661
868
dollars
so
I
want
to
go
through
that
chunk.
That
chunk
is
for
the
municipal
wage
study.
K
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
the
office
of
people
operations
there
that's
for
fifty
thousand
dollars,
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
and
that
money
is
being
pulled.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
from
the
finance
cabinet
contractual
again.
We
looked
at
every
line
item
to
see
what
was
spent
for
FY
23
and
looked
at
fy24
projections.
So
I'm
happy
to
go
into
more
detail
on
my
polls,
but
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
K
B
K
B
K
B
Thank
you,
I
know.
You
have
to
go.
You've
sent
me
that
notification
previous
previously,
however
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
that
once
I
put
the
report
together,
there
was
no
way
of
me
getting
the
report
to
you
prior
to
Wednesday
vote.
The
latest
I
mean
the
soonest
I
can
get.
It
is
probably
Wednesday
first
thing
in
the
morning
to
allow
you
more
time,
but
I
noticed
that
my
colleagues
were
making
comments
about
like
last
minute
report
being
on
their
desk,
and
it's
not
last
minute.
K
Customer
engines
and
I
just
wanted
to
just
note
that
I
put
something
else
for
consideration
that
I
am
opted
to
keep
in
here.
It's
one
million
dollars
for
the
Emergency
business,
Relief
Fund
for
the
office
of
Economic
Opportunity
and
inclusion,
I
wave
it
about
whether
or
not
to
take
that
off
or
to
include
ultimate
definitely
I
want
to
keep
that
in.
That
is
an
intra-departmental
departmental
amendment,
so
it
would
be
a
million
dollars
from
within
office
of
Economic
Opportunity
and
inclusion.
We
heard
from
the
administration
that
those
interdepartmental
chances
are
permissible.
K
What
I
and
the
reason
why
I
decided
to
keep
it
in
is
because
we
had
a
hearing
what
you
shared
a
hearing
and
oei.
The
oeoi
seemed
to
like
this
idea,
and
so,
if
they
don't
end
up
liking,
the
idea
I
think
it's
a
really
great
idea
for
our
businesses
that
are
suffering
and
struggle
for
no
fault
of
their
own,
especially
our
small
businesses.
Our
black
and
brown
on
business
I'm
thinking
about
the
bridge
closure
in
Hyde
Park.
K
B
C
So
I
would
I
would
like
to
advocate
for
it
and
again
want
to
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
on
the
council
for
the
advocacy
over
that
not
just
this
year,
but
over
the
last
several
years
really
and
Council.
Flaherty
is
really
done.
The
work
and
working
with
our
Public
Safety
professionals
on
on
this
but
I
I
would
like
to
respectfully
add
ask
if
we
could
add
car
5
back
into
the
Madam
chair.
B
C
B
C
B
Okay
sounds
good,
thank
you
for
your
thoughtful
amendments.
Council
president
Flynn,
councilor,
Murphy
and
I'm.
Sorry,
your
your
any
counselor,
of
course,
is
free
to
go
anytime
to
you.
It's
like
whenever
you
feel
like
it,
but
you
are
free
to
go.
We're
going
to
wrap
this
up
today
and
I
will
notify
everyone
if
we
still
need
another
working
session
if
we
need
to
keep
the
one
tomorrow.
Thank
you,
council,
president
counselor.
D
Murphy,
thank
you.
I'm
gonna
go
out
of
order
just
because
council
president
Flynn
I
had
originally
asked
for
an
increase
to
the
Family
Justice
Center
for
500,
000
and
I
was
going
to
I
was
willing
to
cut
it
to
250,
but
thinking
with
council
president
Flynn's
ask
I
would
like
to
decrease
my
ask
to
300
000
I.
D
Don't
want
to
take
it
out
completely,
but
I
think
as
a
compromise,
if
we
could
just
put
in
for
300
000
and
that
would
include
council
president
Flynn's,
ask
also
and
I
also
thought
council
president
Flynn,
that
it
was
the
Boston
Police,
Department
I
know
they
do
work
closely
with
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission.
So
that's
where
I
originally
was
thinking.
D
We
could
pull
it
to
put
an
increase
to
the
Boston
Police
Department,
but
however,
either
Department
fails
the
best
way
to
do
that,
and
just
one
clarifying
question
do
we
have
to?
Are
you
taking
notes
enough
now
or
should
we
follow
up?
After
with
our
changes?
Are
you
okay
with
us
just
talking
them
through
here?
Should
we
follow
up
after.
D
B
Through
especially
because
most
of
your
all
of
your
polls
are
from
Boston
Public,
Health
commission
and
we've
heard
from
different
people
and
Community
saying
that
that
probably
is
not
a
good
place
to
pull
funds
from.
Although
there
is
another
amendment
that
sort
of
counteracts
your
pull,
and
so
if
you
decrease
some
of
your
start
decreasing
some
of
your
amounts,
it
would
probably.
B
When
it
comes
with
Murphy
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
allow
me
to
finish
my
sentences,
please
what
I'm
saying
is
that
not
only
will
it
eventually
average
out,
but
because
they
are
Quasi
agency,
Public
Health,
commission
I
mean
we're
not
we're
not
able
to
tell
them
what
to
do,
how
to
do
it.
I
understand
even
intro
right
absolutely,
and
so,
if
you
are
pulling
and
someone
else
is
adding
it
sort
of
balances
itself
out.
D
And
as
we
know,
and
especially
as
the
chair
of
that
public
health
committee,
it's
more
of
a
strong
ask
to
they
work
alongside
our
seniors,
our
veterans,
our
most
vulnerable,
so
many
of
the
Departments
I
was
asking
them
to
add.
To
could
also
so
me
pulling
them
doesn't
mean
I.
Think
that
we
shouldn't
continue
to
advocate
for
these
things,
I'm
about
to
go
through
the
list,
but
I
do
know
working
closely
with
public
health,
making
sure
that
they
continue
to
fund
and
increase
their
support.
The
first
one
is
programming.
It
was
split
into
two.
D
They
are
they're
here
with
us,
and
also
our
community
centers
increasing
I've,
been
to
many
across
the
city,
senior
centers,
that
we're
trying
to
increase
our
programming
and
do
think.
It's
important
that
Boston
Public
Health
supports
that
funding
in
a
lot
of
these
veteran
and
Senior
programming.
So
those
two
expand
mental
and
emotional
health
services
for
our
sorry
to
what
amount
just
cutting
both
to
Automotive.
D
Deleting
them
I'm
completely
deleting
them.
Okay,
expanding
mental
and
emotional
health
was
also
separated
for
seniors
and
Veterans.
One
is
to
our
age,
strong
Department.
The
second
is
to
the
vets
I
do
want
to
keep
both
of
those
I
know
that
our
Boston
Public
Health
Works
closely
with
them,
but
definitely
keep
those
cutting
the
next
two.
D
From
yeah,
so
the
next
one
I
spoke
of
about
the
Family
Justice
Center,
supporting
those
affected
by
domestic
violence,
keeping
it
but
deep
willing
to
decrease
it
from
500
to
300,
including
what
council
president
Flynn
requested.
Also
Office
of
Recovery
Services
we
can
cut
I
can
work
closely
with
Jen
and
others
in
the
sorry.
B
D
It
thank
you,
cut,
Recovery
Services.
The
life
sciences
is
very
similar
to
the
one
that
Council
of
Flaherty
requested
with
the
growth
in
life
sciences
and
I,
agree
that
we
should
put
it
through
the
fire
department
with
inspectors.
So
you
can
cut
that
one
from
mine,
because
I
agree
with
Council
of
Flaherty
on
his
and.
D
Want
to
keep
the
Boston
Public
Health
for
supporting
the
pilot
program
at
the
Harvard
Street
neighborhood
neighborhood
distribution
program,
which
is
a
pilot.
It's
new,
so
I
do
think.
300
000
is
a
modest
ask
to
support
that
at
the
Harvard
Street
neighborhood
working
alongside
the
community
center,
also
in
the
neighborhood
association
there
for
the
food
pantry.
So
keep
that
please
and
I
think
I
just
went
through
all
my
I'm
good.
D
L
Whenever
you're
ready,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
sorry,
I
thought
there
were
more
people
in
front
of
me,
so
I
think
for
for
me,
they're,
a
member
for
the
Boston
Public
Health,
commission,
asthma
prevention.
It
was
an
original
Amendment
for
an
additional
two
ftes
for
cross-department
capacity
and
management
to
help
ISD
and
other
City
departments
connect
around
asthma,
related
issues
and
housing.
L
L
B
L
L
After
having
conversations
with
the
chief
and
the
director
of
art
and
culture,
this
is
basically
initially
I
had
it
going
to
the
space
Grant
at
the
the
the
cabinet
of
Economic,
Opportunity
and
inclusion,
and
we
decided
that
would
actually
be
easiest
if
we
want
to
protect
cultural
institutions
at
risk
to
send
it
to
the
space
Grant
at
arts
and
culture
and
based
on
their
capacity
and
what
they're
going
to
be
able
to
do.
The
500
000
number
is
actually
more
in
alignment
with
what
would
be
helpful
for
them.
L
L
B
L
H
I
am
I'm
struggling
a
little
bit
counselor
and
chair
Anderson.
To
be
honest
with
you,
because
you
know,
I
really
do
appreciate
the
compromise,
but
I
really
don't
want
to
set
the
stage
that
we're
always
going
to
be
willing
to
just
I
think
that
the
mayor
has
an
opportunity
to
really
stand,
and
you
know
she
supported
yes
on
one.
She
was
really
a
loud
voice
and
participatory
budget,
and
so
we're
all
making
a
lot
of
compromises,
which
is
what
this
work
is
all
about.
H
A
A
H
So
just
want
to
note
that
for
the
record
and
then
in
regards
to
the
mental
health
response
pilot,
you
know
counselor,
then
Edwards
and
Wu
and
myself
worked
on
developing
the
pilot,
which
was
approved
under
mayor
Janie
at
the
time
and
from
what
I
understand.
There's
1.5
million
already
set
aside
and
so
I
am
willing
to
reduce
that
my
2.6
million
ass
to
another
500.
B
B
B
L
I'm
sorry
direct
response
to
yeah.
Of
course.
Thank
you
because
the
participatory
budgeting
amendment
is
the
two
for
the
2.6
million
dollars
is
on
my
suggested
and
I
didn't
cut
it,
and
so
I
would
ask
that
we
don't
I.
Think
in
addition
to
that
I
want
to.
Second
president
Flynn's
request
to
not
remove
car
five
I.
Think
the
Boston
fire
department
is
getting
the
torch
into
the
stick
here.
L
L
H
I
I,
just
for
me
in
terms
of
just
Clarity
I,
need
from
what
I
understand
from
the
administration.
There
is
already
1.5
million
dollars
to
support
this
particular
initiative,
so
I'm
just
asking
for
the
funds
that
will
help
supplement
and
get
us
to
the
point.
The
2.6
million
that
it
deserves.
So
I
just
want
to
be
really
clear
in
what
I'm
proposing
here
and
if
the
administration
can
confirm
that
there
is
already
1.5
million
right.
B
Hopefully
that
didn't
translate
so
because
of
it
here,
no
no
I
would
I
I
I
made
a
mistake.
When
you
said
500
I
was
talking
to
a
budget
analyst
Karishma.
It
is
one
at
1.1
to
get
us
to
2.6,
not
500
and
I
made
a
mistake
to
say
to
correct
Karishma
and
say
it's
only
put
500.
So
if
consolar
is
saying
2.6
we're
now
right,
we're
now
1.5
away.
Okay
and
that's,
but
you
are
saying
you
what
I'm
seeing
you
at
1.1.
L
H
A
H
B
L
H
H
H
You
know
he's
always
out
here
advocating
for
them,
so
I
just
want.
We
have
the
fire
department,
we
got
you
Flaherty,
okay,
it's
a
compromise
here
and
so
I
want
to
I
know
two
20
million
sounds
like
a
lot.
I
would
love
for
people
to
recognize
that
you
know
there
are
going
to
be
some
pushes
and
pulls
in
regards
to
this
number
I
am
open
to
my
colleagues
being
able
to
help
me
understand.
H
Think
I
need
some
more
insight,
because
we
know
67
of
the
voters
past
participatory
budgeting,
and
we
should
honor
that
so
I
just
would
love
to
hear
from
my
colleagues
what
their
specific
concerns
are,
so
that
we
can
help
address
them
and
I'd
like
to
know
what
compromises
they
they'd
be
willing
to
suggest,
for
example,
using
less
from
a
from
this
resource
or
replacing
them
with
another.
Like
I
really
would
love
some
specific
feedback
and
what
compromises
there
are
willing
to
make?
H
H
I
got
some
more
reductions
too.
Just
so
everybody
knows:
okay,
oh
my
God
Clarity
I
I'm,
a
quick
learner,
listen
I!
Listen!
Y'all
may
not
think
so,
but
I
do
all
right.
So
here's
some
other
things
that
I'm
willing
to
compromise
on
I
spoke
to
my
good
colleague,
councilor
rorel,
who
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
around
Civic
engagement
and
organizing
and
I'm
willing
to
some
of
the
asks
that
I
had
for
that
department
was
around
I,
believe
I
had
for
the
office
of
Civic,
organizing
317
thousand
dollars.
H
I
am
willing
to
reduce
that
and
the
only
thing
from
Leoni
the
the
two
things
that
I
really
would
like
to
fight
for
and
figure
out
is.
If
we
can
have
some
funding
to
help
cover
costs
for
the
poll
workers
I
asked
for
117,
maybe
we
could
cut
that
in
half
just
for
the
first,
no
okay.
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
keep
I,
have
some
suggestions?
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
love
you
for
that.
H
B
H
So
let
me
just
tell
you
for
the
for
the
the
reduction
I
really
want
to
focus
on
supporting
small
businesses
that
have
opened
up
shop
and
that
are
struggling.
I've
heard
from
several
folks
who,
after
opening
up
their
businesses,
are
not
getting
the
technical
assistance
that
they
need
so
I'd
like
to
kind
of
and
Mark
some
services
for
that,
as
well
as
figuring
out
how
we
can
diversify
the
market.
H
A
H
H
H
B
I
I
I
think
that
we
start
off
on
working
with
the
Department
to
figure
out
where
this
goes
yeah
and
you
know
make
sure
that
the
infrastructure
is
in
place
and
surveying.
You
know,
especially
with
like
that
youth
study
for
recreational
space
senior
centers.
It
could
include
entrepreneurial
sort
of
recreational
whatever
trainings
or
workspace,
and
then
the
youth
Action
Network
grant
program.
B
H
Fine
all
right,
so
let
me
just
go
on
to
my
other
must-haves,
okay,
that
I
really
do
want
at
least
125
to
support
immigrant
advancement
work,
and
that
is
specifically
for
around
programming
and
policy.
This
is
more
of
a
Personnel
line
item
and
this
goes
to
support
the
hearing
back
Council,
Royal
and
counselor
you
and
I
have
filed
to
help
support
Latino
and
Caribbean
immigrants,
so
that
is
at
125.
H
So
if
I
look
at
what
my
bottom
line
is
crucial
that
now
that
I
have
like
slashed
half
my
budget,
I
am
only
asking
for
125
for
immigrant
advancement
according
to
that
200
000.
Now
for
my
cannabis
industry,
work
I
am
going
to
collaborate
with
my
colleague
around
Civic
engagement
work,
and
that
is
specifically
for
the
co.
The
poll
workers.
H
B
H
H
H
15
12
12
million
done
12
million
down,
but
here's
the
deal
yes
I'm
fighting
for
the
participatory
budget,
but
that's
that
I
see
as
a
council
Community
collaborative
process-
that's
not
just
mine,
even
though
I
am
championing
it.
I
am
hopeful
that
my
colleagues
are
all
going
to
invest
in
that
process.
Right
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
and
if
that's
not
where
everybody's
at
then
I'd
like
for
people
to
hear
that
too,
because
I
want
to
manage
everybody's
expectations.
B
You've
cut,
you've,
cut
it
down
tremendously
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
necessarily
agree
again
on
reducing
this
amendment
overall
I
believe
that
again
out
of
4
billion
4.2
billion
dollars
right,
the
mayor
can
figure
out
because
she
knows
more
about
this
budget.
She
knows
more
about
the
money.
That's
coming
that
we
don't
know
about.
She
knows
she
has
more
handle
on
OBM
and
more
resources
to
do
analysis
on
a
scale
and
within
one
week
Beyond.
What
we
are
we
we
have
resources
to
do.
B
Christian
is
great,
but
we
would
she
has
an
entire
team.
This
is
her
budget
right.
She
put
it
together,
so
she
would
know.
Naturally
she
would
know
more
so
I
think
that
it's
fine
for
us
to
you
know
to
take
Council
Flaherty's
point
about
reducing
it.
He
makes
it
seem
like
75
million
is
like
too
much
considering
4.2
billion
operating
budget,
but
it's
not
when,
especially
because
again
historically
last
year
the
mayor
took,
we
went
from
56
million
dollars,
we
negotiated
down
to
27.,
we
only
end
up.
B
She
only
ended
up
sending
back
17
approved,
and
so
it's
only
a
first
step,
she's
going
to
take
it
she's
going
to
have
more
resources.
She
cannot
go
and
make
comments
about
how
disingenuous
removing
money
from
over
time
is.
She
can't
make
these
comments
because
they're
just
not
real,
she
can
make
the
move
back
to
where
she
wants
them
and
then
it's
up
to
us
to
take
the
process
and
amend
items
in
whole
or
items
in
part
or
again.
We
can
do
it
as
an
ominous
vote
on
the
on
the
floor.
B
It's
just.
It
is
what
it
is
in.
In
Africa
we
say
it's
bread,
bread,
cheese,
cheese.
Whatever
it
is,
it's
black
and
white.
It's
not
it's!
There's!
No!
There's!
No!
There's
no
confusion
here.
There's
no
discrepancy
here.
Everyone
can
get
their
Amendment,
but
it's
what
you're
willing
to
vote
for
and
so
I
appreciate
you
doing
it
this
way,
but
again
as
chair,
my
job
is
to
sit,
listen
and
allow
the
group
dynamics
to
fall
into
place
and.
H
B
E
Have
the
floor.
Thank
you.
Madam
chair
I.
Just
wanted
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
my
amendments
being
that
it's
at
one
one
million
dollars
with
some
change,
I
think
36
000
I
would
like
to
keep
a
majority
of
them
and
then
talking
about
participatory
budgeting
councilman.
He
and
I
have
had
a
conversation,
I'm
willing
to
go
on
record
and
talk
about
that,
but
just
to
go
through
everything
and
just
to
to
clarify
some
things.
E
Based
on
the
report
of
what
we've
received
and
what
came
through
the
committee
report
line
by
line
going
through
mine,
the
translation
set
equipment
is
coming
from
public
works,
department
and
I.
Think
just
in
general
for
those
folks
listening
I'm
trying
to
think
about
where
I'm
pulling
from
and
be
very
intentional
and
mindful
my
my
whole
stick
is
to
be
a
very
climate.
Conscious,
I
would
love
to
Green.
Our
Fleet
I
would
like
to
get
to
electric
vehicles
as
much
as
possible
and
so,
where
I'm
largely
pulling
from
is
from
Auto
energy
supplies.
E
So
that
is
why
I
have
and
anything
to
do
with
vehicles
and
and
and
equipment
that
emits
carbon
dioxide
into
the
air.
So
I'll
just
be
very
Frank
and
transparent
about
that.
So
for
Public
Works.
This
is
thirty
thousand
dollars
coming
from
the
auto
energy
supplies,
not
from
Personnel
bcyf
programming
for
youth
office
of
Human
Services
contracted
Services.
We
are
increasing
their
personnel
line
items,
so
it's
a
little
redundant
to
be
contracting
things
out
through
HR.
When
we're
increasing
Personnel,
we
should
bring
that
in.
So
that
was
my
thought
process.
E
There,
Staffing
for
Street
work
and
sidewalk
repair
coming
from
snow
and
winter
management,
our
lease
in
debt
purchases,
two
FTE
Hokies,
also
coming
from
snow
and
winter
Management,
lease
and
debt
purchases.
Upgrading
the
kobuk
system
I
have
here
in
the
committee
report
that
this
was
pulling
from
the
police
department,
which
is
inaccurate.
I
would
like
to
pull
from
the
public
works
again.
Police
excuse
me
Public
Works
supplies
and
materials
Auto
energy
supplies.
E
If
we
can
clarify
that
for
the
record-
and
the
committee
report
I
also
have
here
too,
that
this
didn't
make
it
into
the
committee
report
and
I,
don't
know
if
that
was
intentional
or
not
chair,
but
two
FTE
parking
enforcement
officers
for
the
transportation
Department.
That
was
going
to
be
intro
departmental
and
it
never
made
into
the
committee
report
and
I
would
like
to
keep
it
there
and
maybe
think
about
pulling
from
the
parking
revolving
fund.
E
This
is
parking
meters
in
the
city
of
Boston,
women's
advancement,
supplies
and
materials
for
machines
for
menstrual
products,
not
coming
from
do
it
like
this
document
says,
but
it's
actually
coming
from
Public
Works,
Auto
energy
supplies.
Expanding
the
tree,
canopy
fifty
thousand
dollars
it's
coming
from
Neighborhood
Services
contractual
services,
I,
don't
know
necessarily
what
that
is,
and
then
last
but
not
least,
immigrants
lead
Boston
pulling
from
not
the
police
department
but
Public
Works
supplies
and
materials.
Auto
energy
supplies
I
think
in
total.
E
That's
still
that
comes
back
to
a
million
and
change
talking
about
participatory
budgeting.
I
have
been
in
conversations
with
with
The,
Advocates
and
I
do
agree
that
we
need
to
given
the
fact
that
we've
just
hired
the
director
we
need
to
expand
capacity
and
expand
the
director's
capacity
by
empowering
Community
organizations,
and
so
I
I
am
in
favor
of
because
I
am
just
at
again
a
modest
1
million,
adding
500
000
to
a
million
in
to
provide
grants
to
community
organizations
to
help
with
community
outreach.
E
This
this
next
year
and
I
just
want
to
go
on
the
record
too.
That
I
think
that
we
should
ramp
up
the
spending
for
next
year,
two
to
eight
to
ten
million,
as
a
councilmer
here
mentioned.
But
I
am
willing
to
pull
a
million
from
from
anywhere
I
think
anything
to
do
again
with
with
cars,
and
our
Fleet
is
where
I
would
prefer
to
pull
this
from,
but
I'm
willing
to
negotiate
that
with
you
chair
or
the
administration
and
I
think
just
in
general.
E
I
am
still
looking
at
the
list
that
I
created
of
personnel
cuts
and
I
am
still
seeing
quite
a
bit
of
them.
There
there's
almost
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
coming
from
the
Transportation
Department
permanent
employees,
there's
still
Public
Works,
permanent
employees,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
so
I'm
just
requesting
that,
before
we
vote
on
anything
that
we
just
get
an
updated
report
ahead
of
time,
so
that
we
can
look
to
see
exactly
where
these
Personnel
cuts
are
are
coming
from
and
I
think
that
I
would
feel
a
lot
better.
E
B
You
chair,
thank
you
so
much
Council
Coletta
the
parking
enforcement
as
long
as
just
wanted
to
be
clear
that
it's
in
the
report
as
a
recommendation,
because
of
getting
into
getting
into
directing
Chiefs
of
departments
in
executive
how
to
how
to
perform
their
duties
is
a
violation
of
of
the
code.
So
we
have
to
just
be
careful
with
that,
so
it's
in
there,
but
it's
in
a
recommendation.
I
didn't
delete
it.
Okay,
thank.
E
B
B
G
G
I
saw
that
you
know
councilor
Mehia
myself
also
advocated
for
office
of
food
Justice
for
two
hundred
thousand
and
per
your
recommendation.
I'll
remove
that
from
my
Amendment
as
well,
and
then
I
want
to
update
for
civic,
organizing
the
technical
assistance.
Specific
associations
would
love
to
work
with
Council
Mejia
on
creating
a
description
that
kind
of
incorporates
all
of
our
ideas
into
into
one,
and
if
that
means
increasing
that
budget
a
little
bit
more
to
reflect
the
need.
We
love
to
do
so
as
well.
I.
G
G
A
G
L
L
Lara
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
a
couple
of
things.
One.
There
was
one
of
the
items
that
was
coming
from
bcyf
contracted
on
councilor
Coletta's
list.
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
chief
about
the
money
that
was
coming
out
of
bcyf,
particularly
when
I
was
having
conversations
about
my
amendments
and
where
I
was
going
to
take
money
from
and
although
contractual
Services
shows
up
as
being
underspent
and
there
is
an
increase
in
permanent
employees.
L
L
Specifically,
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
around
swim
and
swim
lessons
and
they
received
a
500
000
increase
to
ensure
that
they
were
funding
that
but
overall
in
the
budget
that
the
mayor
gave
us,
BC
I
have
actually
received
a
budget
cut
and
so
I
don't
think
that
we
should
be
touching
bcyf.
So
I
wanted
to
just
lift
that
up.
B
L
L
E
So
that
would
that
line
item
was
for
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
expanding
the
true
canopy.
That
was
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
Neighborhood
Services
contractual
services
and
correct
I
did
say
that
I,
don't
know
where
that's
at
I
agree
that
we
should
figure
out
where
that's
coming
from,
but
I
do
want
to
keep
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
expanding
our
true
canopy
and
just
funding
trees
across
the
city
of
Boston
I.
Think
if,
if
I
made
the
other
comment
about
bcyf,
that's.
L
E
L
Know
why
councilor
Coletta
you're
misunderstanding
what
we're
talking
about
so
when
you
said
that
you
wanted
to
take
money
from
contracted
Services,
I,
misunderstood
and
thought
that
you
said
that
we're
going
to
take
from
bcyf
contracted
Services.
The
chair
corrected
me
and
let
me
know
that
you
were
taking
it
from
the
office
of
Human
Resources.
E
L
A
L
To
Clara
is
that
yes,
Council
Lara,
please
proceed.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
the
conversation
particularly
about
the
permanent
employees
and
Personnel
that
we've
been
having
on
the
floor
and
so
similar
to
all
of
my
colleagues
I,
do
an
incredible
amount
of
work
and
an
incredible
amount
of
analysis
about
where
the
money
is
coming
from
before
I
make
decisions
about
where
to
cut
now.
I,
don't
actually
know
of
any
of
the
money
that
was
just
brought
up
about.
Personnel
is
actually
coming
from
my
amendments.
L
So
that
is
why
you
look
back
and
you
look
at
historical
understanding
and
so
in
all
of
the
places
where
there
was
money
that
was
removed
partially,
not
in
full
for
personnel
or
permanent
employees.
It
was
with
the
eye
that
the
under
spending
had
been
historical
for
at
least
three
to
five
years
in
these
departments.
Now
we
know
that
BTD
and
Public
Works
are
having
a
really
difficult
time
hiring,
and
that
is
why
a
lot
of
the
permanent
employee
line
items
are
being
underspent.
L
If
the
rent
is
late,
we
should
not
be
making
decisions
about
keeping
a
4.6
million
dollar
inflated
budget
when
there
is
programming
and
resources
that
are
necessary
for
the
people
of
the
city
of
Boston
that
need
to
be
funded,
and
so
again
this
is
not
about
any
particular
line.
Item
or
money
that's
being
taken.
This
is
about
one
being
honest
and
giving
the
public
the
information
that
they
need
that
when
we're
talking
about
using
money
from
quote-unquote
permanent
employees
or
emergency
employees,
they
are
when
we're
talking
about
them.
Here.
L
We
have
the
same
thing
for
the
transportation
department
they're
talking
about
3
million
to
3.9
million
in
under
spending
just
this
year,
historically
same
thing
anywhere
from
one
to
two
million
dollars
in
under
spending,
and
so
when
somebody's
making
a
suggestion
that
out
of
3.9
million
dollars,
we
move
400
000
you're,
not
even
taking
all
of
the
overspending.
So
if,
for
some
reason
we
did
come
up
with
50
new
employees
to
hire
overnight,
then
the
money
that
is
under
spent
would
still
be
there
in
an
increase.
L
I
will
also
say
that
although
I
know
that
as
counselors,
we
have
best
intentions,
I
like
to
listen
to
The
Experts
and
the
public
works
department,
came
to
the
Boston
city
council
and
gave
us
a
presentation
that
said
that
they
were
only
planning
between
now
and
2024,
only
planning
on
hiring
an
extra
10
people.
And
so
why
are
we
planning
on
giving
departments
money?
Who
have
explicitly
come
here
and
told
us
that
they
are
not
going
to
spend
it?
L
L
The
money
is
there
to
be
used
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
the
basic
needs
of
the
people
in
our
city,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
because
I
think
that
people
tend
to
get
very
scandalous
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
grounded
in
facts
and
the
actual
budget
numbers
that
we
have
here
in
the
same.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
E
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
for
for
clarifying
that
particular
point
when
it
comes
to
bcyf
and
so
looking
at
the
numbers
and
being
grounded
in
facts.
I
have
all
of
your
personnel
polls
and
So,
based
on
the
things
that
you
have
already
cut,
let's
just
assume
so,
for
example,
construction
of
affordable
homes
with
50
vouchers.
So
let's
just
assume
that
that
3.5
million
dollar
decrease
comes
only
from
Personnel
you're
right.
You
do
pull
from
Public
Works
Parks
and
Rec
Public
Works
BTD.
E
All
of
that
is
accounted
for
and
then
also
pulling
from
the
Arts
and
Cultural
space.
I
think
you
pulled
a
million
dollars
out
of
that.
That
largely
comes
from
BC
or
excuse
me.
That
was
the
asthma
connection.
You
have
Labor
Relations
oeoi,
assessing
all
the
account
all
being
accounted
for
in
that
poll,
but
even
besides
that
The
Parking
Clerk
Office
of
equity,
ISD,
Property,
Management,
Law
Department,
that
is
520
000
of
permanent
employee
polls
with
sorry
the
exception
of
unemployment,
compensation
of.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Coletta,
so
to
just
just
to
clarify.
Consular
also
pulls
from
different
departments.
I'm
not
going
to
list
them
all
here,
but
I
have
at
least
six
additional
departments
that
she
pulled
from
and
that
balances
out,
but
I'd
like
to
because
I
haven't
allowed
Council
Lara
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
what
you
just
put
on
the
floor.
I
will
allow
counselor
to
respond
I'm
going
to
ask
then
that
we
move
on
after
that
counselor
Blair.
B
L
L
L
If
you
have
Council
I
think
what
I
would
say
is
that
since
we've
started
this
process
since
last,
Wednesday
councilor
Coletta
has
not
come
to
me
once
about
any
of
my
amendments,
and
so
if
councilman
Coletta
has
questions,
then
those
questions
should
have
been
asked
to
me
directly
either
during
the
recess
or
between
Wednesday
and
tomorrow.
So
I
think
that
we
can
do
that
offline
so
that
I
can
answer.
Questions
for
councilor,
Coletta
and
I
will
make
sure
that
you
have
the
Amendments
as
they
are
here
for
Wednesday's
budget.
B
Once
again,
it
was
stated
that
there
were,
there
are
some
changes
being
made
in
terms
of
where
the
polls
are
coming
from
and
so
I
look
forward
to
your
updates.
Councilor
Coletta
I
did
mention.
I
did
hear
you
clarifying
an
amount,
but
I
don't
think
there
needs
to
be
any
more
responses.
Are
you,
okay,
here
and
so
I
think
that
we
are
going
to
we
should
we.
This
is
a
healthy
conversation.
We
should
question
and
we
should
give
feedback
and
we
should
continue
with
the
process.
B
But
I
think
that
the
point
to
be
reinstated
here
is
that
if
you
have
that
concern,
if
any
counselors
have
concerns
about
unspent
funds,
counselor
Lara
makes
the
same
point
that
I've
been
trying
to
hammer
in.
We
are
not
using
any
funds
for,
for
example,
if
they,
if
a
department
used
3
million
in
Personnel
FY
23,
but
we
know
that
they
need
another
25.
B
I,
add
that
25
to
complete
FY
23.,
and
then,
if
I,
see
that
there's
an
additional
three
million,
unspent
and
they're
saying
I
only
want
to
hire
10
people,
obviously
I
mean
I.
Think
there
was
a
one
Department.
That
was
like
eight
million
surplus,
and
so
at
that
point
of
course,
then
I
I
said
okay
reasonably
and
comfortably.
How
much
funds
do
we
leave
in
there
for
those
ft's?
And
after
doing
that,
we
then
went
through
every
single
Amendment
and
the
negatives
and
the
positives.
B
If
there
was
a
deficit
I,
we
try
to
make
sure
that
the
math
allowed
the
department
to
be
comfortable
but
also
take
into
consideration
what
they
have
advocated
for
in
terms
of
building
capacity
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
each
one
of
you
to
come
to
myself
and
Karishma.
If
you
go
to
Karishma
individually,
I'm
afraid
that
your
question
might
be
isolated
and
it
doesn't
take
the
full
picture
into
account,
so
I
advise
you
to
work
with
me
myself,
the
chair,
so
that
I
can
give
you
the
full
picture.
B
So
you
can
see
overall
across
the
board
how
it's
impacting
each
other's
Department
outside
of
that
I.
Think
I
will
take
the
recommendations
and
suggestions.
I
will
allow
everyone
to
make
their
final
closing
statement.
I
will
take
your
suggestions
today.
I
am
waiting
for
your
final
recommendation
as
to
where
the
polls
are
coming
from
the
report
I'm
putting
the
report
together
tomorrow
morning,
if
we're
not
ready
to
present
it
in
the
working
session.
You'll
have
to
understand
that
this
stuff
takes
a
lot
of
work,
hopefully
I'm
ready.
D
B
B
D
B
B
H
H
So
the
actual
spending
through
418
was
772
000
per
day
and
so
assume
assuming
smooth
spending.
This
would
would
total
281.7
million,
which
is
24.5
million
less
than
that
budget,
and
so
I'm
just
curious,
as
we
continue
to
talk
about
this
because
I
know
we're
struggling
with
where
the
money
is
going
to
come
from.
I
just
want
to.
H
And
so
the
reason
why
I
want
to
bring
this
up
is
because
I
know
I'm
going
to
sound
like
a
broken
record
and
I
just
really
want
us
to
consider
how
we
can
get
to
a
good
place
for
the
participatory
budget,
I
I,
I'm
still
hearing
from
folks,
and
you,
the
chair
too.
You
know
to
keep
it
at
20,
I'm
willing
to
do
cut
to
10.,
but
I
really
do
believe.
B
Thank
you
councilman,
here
from
what
I
understand,
you're
asking
us
to
share
the
responsibility
and
moving
the
funds
for
perspiratory
budget
and
I
agree
with
you
that
there
are.
There
are
discrepancies
in
terms
of
unspent
funds
with
BPD
Council
Colorado
voiced
her
position
that
she
wants
to
support.
One
million
move
that
leaves
you
down
to
nine
I
would
support
one
million
where
it
comes
from
we'll
still
have
to
ask
councilor
Coletta
to
respond
so
that
we
can
justify
the
poll.
B
L
H
C
C
My
constituents
I
could
not
support
this
because,
as
a
district
City
councilor,
unlike
unlike
an
ad
Lodge
counselor,
not
nothing
against
my
at
large
counselors,
but
as
a
district
City
councilor
the
buck
stops
there
and
we
can't
pass
the
buck
and
say:
well,
we
don't
have
the
services,
we
don't
have
the
programs.
Well,
if
you
don't
have
the
services-
and
you
don't
have
the
programs
advocate
for
them
effectively
advocate
for
them
and
advocate
for
your
constituents
in
your
District.
That's
my
that's.
C
How
I
take
my
job
as
a
district,
City
councilor
that
I
do
everything
I
possibly
can
to
bring
as
much
services
and
support
into
my
district
and,
if
I,
think
one
nickel
is
being
cut
that
negatively
impacts
my
district,
it's
something
it's
something!
I
I
couldn't
support,
but
again
I'm
going
to
go
home
tonight
and
review
this
thoroughly.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
Thank
you,
council
president
Flynn
I
think
that
you
are
generally
a
decent
human
being
and
a
gentleman
I
do
think
that
I
would
say
I
would
recommend.
Then,
if
you
have
any
questions
about
discrepancies,
I'm
happy
to
show
you
the
justifications
and
how
folks
here
are
saying
or
trying
to
prove
that
it's
reasonable
again,
no
budget
is
being
reduced
to
Personnel
that
one
already
employed
two
to
complete
the
fiscal
year,
FY
23
3
to
disallow
Department
Chiefs
to
hire
or
build
capacity
to
what
they've
reported
in
the
hearings.
B
With
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
ask
my
the
rest
of
my
colleagues
so
I'm
happy
to
take
more
questions
from
you.
Councilor
Flynn
I'll
be
available
all
night
whenever
anyone
else
wanted
to
make
a
final
statement.
Okay,
we're
good
all
right!
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
sticking
around
and
working
this
through
with
me
and
I
will
see
you
guys
tomorrow,
meeting
adjourned.