►
Description
Ways & Means Hearing on Dockets #0760-0769 FY24 Budget: Law, Treasury, and Auditing
A
B
C
A
A
Good
morning,
everyone
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Dania
Financial
Anderson,
the
district
7
City
councilor
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
ways
and
means
this
hearing
is
being
recorded
as
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
for
slash
City,
Dash,
Council,
Dash,
TV
and
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN
channel
82
and
FiOS
channel
964.
The
bot,
the
council's
budget
review
process,
will
Encompass
a
series
of
public
hearings,
beginning
April
and
running
through
June.
A
We
strongly
encourage
residents
to
take
a
moment
to
engage
in
this
process
by
giving
testimony
for
the
record.
You
can
do
this
in
several
ways:
attend
one
of
the
hearings
and
give
public
testimony.
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
each
departmental
hearing
and
also
add
three
hearings
dedicated
to
public
testimony.
A
The
full
hearing
schedule
is
on
our
website
at
boston.gov
forward:
slash
Council
Dash
budget.
Our
scheduled
hearings,
dedicated
to
public
testimony
are
Tuesday
May,
2nd
at
2
p.m.
Tuesday
May,
9th
at
6,
00
pm
and
Thursday
May
18th
at
2
pm
for
virtual
testimony.
You
can
sign
up
using
your
online
form
on
the
console
budget
review
website
or
by
emailing.
The
committee
atcc.wmboston.gov.
A
When
you
are
called
to
testify,
please
state
your
name
and
affiliation
and
or
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
a
couple
of
commits
to
ensure
that
all
comments
and
concerns
can
be
heard
email.
You
can
also
email
your
written
testimony
to
the
committee
at
CCC.
Dot
WM
at
boston.gov
submit
a
two-minute
video
of
your
testimony
through
the
Forum
on
our
website
for
more
information
on
the
City
Council
budget
process
and
how
to
testify.
Please
visit
the
city
council's
budget
website
at
boston.gov
forward,
slash
Council,
Dash
budget.
A
Our
Focus
area
for
this
hearing
will
be
the
fiscal
year
24
budget
for
the
law
department
and
their
revolving
fund,
the
treasury
Department
and
the
auditing
Department.
Our
panelists
for
today's
hearing
are
Adam
ceterbaum
Corporation
Council,
Law,
Department,
Susan,
wise
first
assistant
Corporation,
Council
Law,
Department,
Pilar,
Ortiz,
Chief
of
Staff
Law,
Department,
Maureen,
Garceau,
first
assistant
collector,
Treasurer
treasury
division,
Treasury
Department,
cilia,
Barton
assistant,
collector
treasury
Treasurer,
collecting
division,
Treasury,
Department,
Maureen,
Joyce,
City,
auditor,
auditing,
Department.
A
I
am
joined
here
by
my
Council
colleague,
counselor
city
council
at
large
councilor
Aaron
Murphy
for
the
format
today
that
we'll
be
using.
We
will
I,
oh
also
join
here
by
my
Council
colleague,
councilor
Liz
Braden
and
counselor
at
large
Michael
Flaherty.
A
For
our
format,
I
will
go
to
the
panelist
administration
panelist
for
a
presentation,
then
I
will
ask
our
budgeted
analyst
Karishma
to
present
a
breakdown
of
the
budget
for
those
departments
and
immediately
go
to
round
one
of
questioning
with
to
my
Council
colleagues
and
then
to
public
testimony.
If
anyone
signed
up
and
then
to
a
second
round
of
question
and
a
third
if
time
allows
this
hearing
has
been
scheduled
for
a
duration
of
three
hours.
A
If
we
make
we
make
it
done
sooner,
and
that's
really
to
the
discretion
of
my
colleagues
if
they
feel
the
questions
have
been
answered
or
whether
or
not
we
need
further
conversation
Beyond
this
hearing
so
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
welcome
all
of
you
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
hard
work,
pretty
straightforward
stuff
and
I
mentioned
earlier:
offline,
fun,
stuff,
treasuring
and
auditing
and
law.
So
the
blog's
definitely
fun
right.
Adam.
Definitely.
A
And
we
absolutely
absolutely-
and
let's
make
this
light-
conversation
I
like
to
preface
it
by
just
asking
that
we
all
have
a
job
to
do
and
that
we
look
forward
to
a
conversation
with
Integrity
transparency
and
obviously,
professionalism
and
respect
in
this
conversation.
So
just
a
easy
going
conversation,
questions
and
answers
and
getting
to
clarification
and
transparency
for
the
sake
of
conveying
information
to
make
it
accessible
for
the
public.
A
A
D
All
right,
no
sorry
I'm,
here
good
morning,
everyone.
B
D
You
chair
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
The
panelists
and
just
looking
forward
to
the
conversation
I'll
hold
my
opening
remarks
to
our
first
round
of
questions.
Looking
forward
to
the
conversation.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
Thank
you
chair,
thank.
A
You
counselor
Murphy,
then
we
have
counselor
Liz
Braden
good.
E
Morning,
everyone,
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
I,
don't
have
anything
much
to
say
just
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
the
conversation
and
I'll
hold
my
remarks
from
my
my
time
for
my
questions
later.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
Council
Braden
counselor,
Michael
Flaherty,.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
look
forward
to
the
testimony
and
obviously
my
focus
will
be
for
the
Law
Department
around
the
execution
of
Courts
and
on
the
general
liability
side,
sort
of
who's
suing
us
and
are
there
any
Trends
and
then
also
looking
at
outside
counsel
and
why
we
need
them
when
we
need
them
and
who
sets
the
rates
and
all
that
stuff.
So
that's
where
my
line
of
inquiry
will
be
but
again
look
forward
to
the
testimony
from
the
administration.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Council
priority.
Next
we
have
counselor
Coletta.
G
Thank
you
chair
good
morning.
Everybody,
it's
good
to
see
you
all.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
work,
no
particular
opening
statement.
I
just
look
forward
to
the
conversation.
Thank
you.
Everybody.
H
Hi
good
morning,
everyone,
it's
councilor,
Mejia
I'm,
a
little
bit
under
the
weather,
so
I
will
spare
you.
The
allergies
are
killing
me,
but
I
am
not
going
to
have
any
opening
remarks,
but
I
will
have
questions.
We're
really
looking
forward
to
diving
in
and
learning
a
little
bit
more
as
counselor
Clarity
mentioned
in
terms
of
like
when
we
seek
counsel.
What
does
that
look
like
who
pays
for
it?
And
you
know
all
that
good
stuff?
Thank.
A
You
fantastic
thank
you,
Council
Mejia
I
have
in
the
order
and
I
guess
Adam
Pilar.
Anyone
help
me
out.
Are
you
guys
planning
to
present
together
or
who's
ready
to
go?
First.
C
I'm
happy
for
the
the
Law
Department
to
go
first,
if
that,
if
that
works
for
the
committee,
we
do
have
a
slide
deck,
that
we
will
try
to
move
through
quickly
and
and
I
will
ask
polar
to
present
a
couple
of
those
slides
and
I'll
present.
The
rest.
A
C
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
so
so
good
morning,
again,
I'm
Adam,
cederbaum
I'm,
the
corporation
counsel
with
me,
is
Susan
weisie,
the
first
assistant
Corporation
Council
for
the
nation
employer
Ortiz,
a
lot
of
departments,
Chief
of
Staff
I,
want
to
thank
you,
chair,
Fernandez
Anderson,
and
the
entire
Ways
and
Means
Committee
for
having
us
here
today
and
I
think
it
extends
to
to
staff,
and
we
would
be
pleased
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
the
Law
Department.
C
C
We
advise
inform
transactional,
work
to
execute
that
advice,
to
support
and
facilitate
the
work
that
that
are
departments
and
so
in
our
public-facing
departments
do
and
that
our
employees
perform
on
behalf
of
the
community
right
we're
really
there
in
as
a
central
Department
in
support
of
a
lot
of
the
work
that
our
external
facing
Department
student
Community.
The
second
you
know,
main
bucket
of
our
work,
is
defending
the
city
and
its
employees.
That
primarily
means
litigation,
but
also
before
regulatory
bodies.
C
C
The
law
department
is
an
in-house
legal
department
that
serves
the
the
city
of
Boston,
so
we
don't
advise
constituents,
we
advise
the
the
city
as
an
entity
and
its
employees.
Currently
we
have
68
employees,
that's
primary.
You
know
the
majority
of
those
are
lawyers.
We
also
have
paralegals
claims,
Specialists
and
administrative
staff.
C
C
This
staff
performs
a
wide
variety
of
work
that
Network
starts
with
our
operations
group.
These
are
the
staff
who
make
sure
that
the
department
runs
and
who
support
everybody
else
in
the
department
in
the
work
we
do.
On
behalf
of
the
city
in
its
departments,
so
that's
the
sort
of
the
critical
Foundation
of
our
work.
The
litigation
group
takes
the
lead
on
another
sort
of
core
piece
of
this
Department's
work
right.
The
core
task
is
defending
the
city
and
its
employees
we're
a
large
institution.
C
C
The
government
services
team
sort
of
represents
another
core
task:
that's
performed
by
the
law
department
on
behalf
of
our
city
departments
and
agencies.
That
team
performs
a
lot
of
transactional
and
advisory
work
that
again
supports
and
facilitates
the
work
that
our
departments
and
public
facing
employees
do.
They
also
do
a
variety
of
land
use
and
contract
mitigation.
C
Those
two
core
tasks-
sort
of
advising
and
supporting
and
defending
in
litigation,
are
also
combined
in
other
pieces
of
the
Law
Department
housed
in
some
of
our
larger
departments.
So
some
lawyers
at
the
police
department
sort
of
combine
the
two
tasks.
The
inspectional
services
department
has
a
team
that
advises
and
sort
of
pursues
isd's
regulatory
agenda
in
housing
court.
The
schools
department
has
lawyers
who
do
both
defending
the
school
in
litigation
as
well
as
advising
and
in
particular,
there's
a
large
workflow
in
the
special
ed
area.
C
Within
that
group,
the
public
facilities
department
has
dedicated
lawyers
who
work
on
both
like
construction
litigation
and,
very
importantly,
construction
procurement
to
do
the
sort
of
large
and
support
the
large
Capital
expenditures
of
the
city.
Finally,
we're
not.
Finally,
we
have
a
couple
other
things.
You
know
mayor's
office
of
housing,
fire
department.
We
have
an
Ethics
division
that
supports
that
and
we
have.
The
public
records
team
handles
a
large
volume
of
requests
that
come
into
the
city.
C
There
was
a
backlog
coming
out
of
the
pandemic,
that
team
added
people
that
last
year,
they've
made
progress
on
that
and
with
some
upcoming
system
changes
and
the
continued
hard
work
of
that
team.
We
expect
to
eliminate
that
in
in
the
coming
months,
our
tax
title
team,
with
a
great
sort
of
flexibility
and
respect
for
our
residents,
manages
the
the
collection
on
cities,
the
city's
tax
liens
for
unpaid
taxes,
our
claims,
division
processes,
all
claims
for
property
damage
and
damage
from
employee
negligence
that
are
submitted
to
the
city
and
our
workers.
C
Comp
team
handles
the
litigation
in
the
city's
workers,
comp
caseload,
there's.
Obviously,
a
lot
of
work
that
I
haven't
mentioned,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
flavor
for
sort
of
the
the
wide
variety
in
the
large
docket
that
this
group
of
68
dedicated
employees,
hopefully
adding
a
few
more
as
we
continue
to
hire.
I
C
Moves
us
right
to
sort
of
like
our
our
budget
and
I'll
start.
You
know,
since
this
hearing
does
concern
revolving
funds,
I
will
start
with
the
law
Department's
revolving
fund.
This
is
the
the
third
proper
third-party
property
damages
fund.
On
our
end,
in
coordination
with
the
budget
office,
this
is
led
by
Sean
Chen
and
the
claims
team.
Essentially,
this
is
a
fund
where
money
is
deposited.
C
This
is
a
fund
that,
with
authorization,
City
councils
established
pursuant
to
general
laws,
chapter
44,
section
53
week
and
a
half
and
the
goal
of
having
this
fund
is
to
create
an
incentive
for
departments
to
pursue
and
make
you
know
the
claims
division
aware
of
damage
to
property
that
we
can
sort
of
collect
on.
C
So
all
departments
relatively
participate,
but
the
most
common
participants
are
those
that
have
frequently
damaged
city
property,
so,
like
fences
and
Parks,
our
vehicles,
which
are
owned
by
Public
Works,
BPD
fire,
alarm
boxes,
street
light
control
boxes
and
things
like
that
that
get
damaged.
C
Moving
on
to
sort
of
our
our
budget
itself,
I
I
know
that
you
will
sort
of
present
the
budget
overview
soon,
so
I
will
sort
of
stick
to
the
breakdown,
our
our
budget
for
the
main
Law
Department
budget.
It's
comprised
of
two
basic
parts,
because
you
know
we
don't
do
physical
work.
We
do
all
leave
the
work,
so
our
two
parts
essentially
are
Personnel
costs
for
that
team
of
68,
plus
that
I've
described
as
well
as
outside
Council
right.
C
You
know
we
have
a
contracted
Services
line,
but
it
is
almost
all
spent
on
outside.
Council
I
spoke
a
lot
about
what
the
team,
within
that
Personnel
Services
line,
does
so
I'll
just
move
on
to
a
brief
overview
of
outside
counsel
right,
like
all
Municipal
law
departments,
we
use
outside
counsel,
we
tend
to
use
outside
Council,
primarily
for
litigation,
but
we
also
use
it
for
matters
like
employment,
advising
or
managing
investigative
employment
issue.
C
C
We
use
outside
counsel
for
certain
complex
or
specialized
matters
where
we
don't
have
the
expertise
in-house
and
it's
more
efficient
and
reasonable
to
use
outside
counsel.
That
has
the
expertise
in
the
trying
to
develop
it
for
a
matter,
that's
not
sort
of
likely
to
repeat,
and
finally,
you
know
staff
capacity
right.
You
know
you
can't
control
the
flow
of
litigation,
sometimes
there's
just
too
much.
C
You
know,
for
example,
in
like
earlier
in
this
fiscal
year
we
lost
three
senior
litigators
sort
of
in
succession
and
it
did
create
a
capacity
issue
for
us
for
a
period
of
time.
Susan
has
done
a
great
job,
rebuilding
that
team,
so
I
think
we're
sort
of
coming
out
of
that,
but
that's
just
sort
of
an
example.
This
is
a
great
time
to
pause
for
a
second
and
recognize
the
hard
work
of
those
attorneys
on
the
litigation
team.
C
That
sort
of
carried
us
through
that
period
and
are
now
sort
of
really
knocking
off
a
bunch
of
work.
C
Our
utilization
of
MBE
and
wbe
certified
firms
is
not
I,
think
where
we
would
Aspire
for
it
to
be
in
in
our
use
of
outside
Council.
C
In
part,
that
is
a
function
of
the
legal
landscape
here
in
Boston,
but
it
is
something
that
we
recognize
and
will
continue
to
to
strive
to
improve
within
the
context
of
those
sort
of
larger
Boston
firms,
many
of
which
aren't
structured
in
a
way
that
allows
them
to
be
certified.
We
have
place
an
emphasis
this
year
on
really
ensuring
that
we
create
opportunities
to
consider
and
originate
work
with
Partners
in
those
firms
where
either
women
or
people
of
color,
which
is
another
way
of
pursuing
our
our
you
know,
being
sort
of
thoughtful
about
this.
C
You
know
the
the
the
budget
that
we
were
requested.
I
want
to
take
a
one
one
minute
to
just
put
it
into
perspective
and
and
share
with
you
my
my
thought
that
we
are
requesting
a
very
reasonable
budget
and
and
one
that
I
think
highlights
what
a
great
job
this
this
team
in
the
law
department
does.
C
You
know
measured
as
like
a
percentage
of
overall
budget,
whether
you
do
it
by
cities
that
are
similar
size
to
us
or
whether
you
do
it
by
cities
that
are
right
around
us
which
have
you
know,
operate
under
the
very
similar
legal
structure.
C
The
law
Department's
budget
is
a
very
reasonable
percentage
of
the
city's
overall
budget
on
this
list.
It's
the
lowest
percentage
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
that
means
that
our
request
is
reasonable
here
and,
more
importantly,
it's
a
testament
to
the
employees
of
this
department,
so
I
just
want
to
take
one
second.
In
light
of
that,
to
thank
them
to
thank
the
hard-working,
talented
staff
of
the
law
department
for
their
dedication,
commitment,
which
I
think
allows
us
to
sort
of
get
a
lot
done.
C
They
get
a
lot
done
right
so,
of
course,
being
absolutely
intend
to
to
finish
the
the
job
of
filling
our
open
positions.
This
year,
we
made
a
lot
of
progress
last
year,
support
our
teams
more
effectively
and
continue
to
bring
more
work
right
here
in-house
and
in
suit
of
that,
we've
also
have
a
modest
request
for
an
addition
of
two
lawyer
positions
to
help
meet
the
city's
growing
needs,
especially
as
we
try
to
modernize
procurement
and
policy
formation
and
litigation
over
the
coming
year.
C
So
in
that
vein
of
celebrating
our
employees,
I
would
like
to
pass
the
next
couple
slides
over
to
the
chief
of
staff,
Laura
keys
to
present
our
a
little
overview
of
our
Personnel.
Thank
you.
A
Sorry,
excuse
me:
you
actually
have
you've
come
to
time,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
wrap
it
up
in
a
couple
of
minutes.
If
you
don't
mind
absolutely.
J
J
J
We're
looking
at
reviewing
our
job
descriptions,
making
sure
that
we're
not
having
anything
that
might
you
know
compel
someone
to
not
move
forward
with
applying
or
expanding
our
Network
and
our
Outreach.
We
are
standardizing
our
practices,
including
looking
at
resume,
rubrics
to
have
more
blind
review
of
resumes
as
they
come
in.
J
That
being
said,
we
do
face
some
challenges.
We
see
a
lot
of
competition,
as
other
offices
are
trying
to
strengthen
their
diversity
if
we're
looking
at
the
demographics
of
kind
of
the
pool
that
we
have
to
fish
in
here
for
lawyers
we
are
looking
at
are
primarily
white
and
male
demographic.
J
You
know
we're
looking
here
at
a
report
just
been
focused
on
Boston
we're,
seeing
only
28
women
and
seven
percent
people
of
color
are
looking
for
partners
for
more
senior
positions
within
our
department,
with
all
this
being
said,
not
to
to
focus
too
much
on
these
sides.
We
are
looking
at
the
salary
equity
for
existing
employees
that
allows
us
to
offer
better
starting
salaries
that
are
tied
to
experience.
J
J
We're
also
working
on
being
more
proactive
with
our
Outreach,
we're
making
sure
that
we're
creating
stronger
and
more
widespread
relationships
with
affinity
bar
groups-
and
this
is
very
important
to
also
not
just
show
up
it's
not
enough
to
just
show
up.
We
have
to
be
proactive
and
create
opportunities
and
open
our
doors,
make
sure
that
we're
having
conversations
with
people
who
may
not
know
of
our
opportunities
in
previous
times
and
just
looking
at
advancing
our
office
culture.
Here,
as
Anna
mentioned,
we
have
21
new
hires.
J
With
all
these
kind
of
improvements
that
we've
been
doing,
we
have
improved
the
diversity
of
the
department
with
those
21
new
hires.
We
have
a
new
partnership
at
the
Boston
Bar
Association,
where
we
now
host
a
our
only
paid
internship.
It's
actually
for
Dei
candidates
that
our
current
law
students,
our
Career
Development,
we've
created
structured
periodic
reviews,
and
these
reviews
provide
transparency
on
our
expectations
of
our
employees
and
help
structure.
Our
promotions.
J
C
Thank
you
so
much
polar
and
and
Madam
chair.
We
will
talk
about
goals,
another
time
they're
in
the
response
we
provided
to
the
council
with
the
RFI
I
apologize
for
being
slow
moving
to
the
first
part
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
patience
and
look
forward
to
talking.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
attorney.
Cedarbomb
I
would
like
to
go
to
Karishma
for
to
present
just
sort
of
a
break
down
more
visual.
A
Breakdown
of
your
budget
question,
if
you
could
just
present
for
the
Law
Department.
Thank
you.
K
Hi
everyone
nice
to
meet
you
all
and
thank
you
so
much
for
that
amazing
presentation,
Adam.
That
explains
so
much.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Give
me
one
second
to
set
up
to
the
law
offer
and
then
we
can
get
started.
A
K
All
right,
so
this
is
just
some
breakdown
that
I
have
for
the
Law
Department.
A
lot
of
these
questions
are
answered,
so
thank
you
again,
Adam
and
Laura
for
all
your
great
information.
K
K
So
this
is
just
kind
of
like
looking
at
the
numbers
in
terms
of
like
the
millions
of
dollars
being
spent
and
then
kind
of
in
the
FY
24
budget.
How
much
are
you
putting
towards
each
of
those
programs
of
the
total
amount
that
you're
about
about
of
the
total
amount
that
you're
trying
to
recommend?
K
K
It's
in
total
amount
by
thousands,
because
these
are
pretty
large
numbers
and
I
wanted
to
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
everyone
to
read
just
some
things
to
notice
here
that
I
at
least
I
noticed
and
I
think
you
guys
have
really
addressed
those
into
some
of
those
increases
that
we're
seeing
in
law
operations
and
then
the
increases
that
we're
seeing
in
litigation
and
in
government
services.
So
just
trying
to
understand
what
those
increases
were,
and
then
this
is
just
kind
of
broken
down
by
the
kinds
of
expenses
that
you're
asking
for.
K
K
And
then
this
is
just
the
government
server
governmental,
Services
information
that
you
provided
a
governmental,
Services
Program
that
you
have
just
kind
of
looking
at
that
spending
over
time
as
well.
Just
trying
to
see
you
know
what's
been
changing
over
the
years,
and
what
I
kind
of
thought
was
interesting
was
that
there
was
actually
a
drop
in
contractual
services
for
governmental.
K
So
that
was
pretty
interesting
to
me,
and
this
is
just
law
operation
spending
by
expense
type
over
time,
so
yeah
and
I've
broken
it
down
by
the
Personnel
contractual
supplies
and
materials.
Current
targeted
obligations
and
I
think
that
you
know
one
of
the
questions
that
I
had.
There
was
just
you
know
what
were
those
current
charges
and
obligations,
and
then
this
is
just
your
litigation
spending
again.
K
And
then
this
is
just
the
departmental
history
kind
of
of
where
your
environmental
history,
so
where
the
Personnel,
where
how
you've
been
spending
money
by
expense
type
over
time
compared
to
how
external
funds
have
been
spent
over
time,
so
that
first,
that
first
thing
you're
going
to
see
there
is
permanent
employees.
K
So
you
know,
eight
million
dollars
are
being
spent
on
permanent
employees
out
of
the
operating
out
of
the
general
funds
and
then
300
000
being
spent
out
of
the
out
of
external
funds,
and
so
one
of
the
questions
that
I
had
here
was
just
you
know.
What
kind
of
current
charges
are
we
thinking
about
here
like
what
does
other
current
charges
mean
and
then
what
kind
of
Transportation
of
persons
like?
What
exactly
does
that
mean
in
terms
of
you're
transporting.
K
Didn't
know
that
that
was
something
that
law
could
do
so
I
thought
that
was
just
and
then
this
is
just
the
you
know
revolving
from
the
you
to
that
you
had
already
specified
and
I
think
you
actually
did
end
up
answering
these
questions.
So
thank
you
again
so
much
for
that.
A
Thank
you
Karishma.
If
we
can
get
back
to
the
regular
screen.
A
We'll
go
into
our
first
round
of
questions
in
the
order
of
arrival,
counselor
Murphy
you
have
before.
C
It
I
would
like
to
to
follow
up
I
can
we
could
pull
out
numbers,
but
my
quick
answer
is
it's
completely
on
par.
You
know
there
was
a
reduction
in
the
outside
Council
budget.
Last
year,
we've
had
to
transfer
a
little
money
from
the
Personnel
line
into
it,
but
that's
actually
something
that
happened
frequently
in
the
past.
C
D
D
C
I
I
appreciate
that
counselor
I
think
that
what
we've
requested
will
allow
us
to
continue
to
sort
of
grow
and
improve
our
work
over
the
coming
fiscal
year.
C
In
the
past
we
had
a
you
know,
because
hiring
has
been
such
a
challenge
and
I
want
to
sort
of
pause.
I
want
to
thank
this
body
and
actually
the
former
Corporation
Council
Henry
lutein,
as
well
as
first
assistant
Corporation,
Council
Susan
weisie,
for
a
lot
of
work
that
they
did
in
2021
to
sort
of
get
the
salaries
in
the
Law
Department
more
aligned
with
the
salaries
in
every
other
Municipal
Law
Department
in
this
region.
C
That
was
a
critical
step
in
helping
us
sort
of
stem
a
tide
of
always
losing
attorneys
and
always
having
unfilled
positions
coming
out
of
the
pandemic
and
with
all
the
like
hiring
problems
that
every
industry
is
facing.
It
wasn't
a
Panacea,
but
it's
been
a
change
Dynamic
and
something
that
sort
of
over
the
last
years
allowed
us
to
fill.
What
used
to
be
a
larger
number
of
open
positions.
We
still
have
a
few
seven
to
be
exact
and
that
we
want
to
sort
of
work
on
feeling.
C
We
do
have
this
budget
does
include
a
request
essentially
to
add
to
a
more
experienced
lawyers
that
like
to
have
focus
on
procurement
work,
which
is
such
a
huge
workflow
throughout
the
institution
that
we
really
need
to
sort
of
help
systematize
and
support
the
finance
cabinet's
efforts
on
those
fronts,
as
well
as
to
develop
a
little
more
capacity
to
sort
of
think
through
and
defendant
litigation
sort
of
policy
heavy
issues.
C
So
our
budget
request,
you
know
we
think,
that's
a
it's
a
moderate
request,
but
it's
you
know,
there's
always
a
ton
of
work
to
do,
but
we
want
to
balance
it
with
our
ability
to
actually
ramp
up,
which
does
take
time.
Thank
you.
Council.
D
Awesome,
thank
you
I'll
just,
and
you
mentioned
Henry
lutein.
He
is
leaving
us
right
any
day
now
so
I
do
just
want
to
thank
him
for
his
Decades
of
service
to
the
city
and
and
when
I
call
you
Adam
or
Henry,
and
also
polari.
Your
office
has
just
been
super
helpful,
so
I
just
want
to
shout
you
all
out
for
being
supportive.
I
don't
have
to
call
often,
but
when
I've
had
questions,
you've
been
very
helpful
and
also
Marine
the
treasurer
thank
you
and
everyone
on
the
call,
but
that's
it
share.
Thank
you.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
team
from
the
Law
Department
I
also
want
to
Echo
my
best
wishes
for
Henry
lutein,
a
dedicated
public
servant
who
serves
in
the
law
department
for
decades,
and
he
certainly
will
be
missed
a
huge
amount
of
institutional
memory
there
and
I
just
want
to
thank
him
for
his
service
and.
F
E
So,
thank
you.
Henry
Henry,
a
question
I
had
was
really
about
compared
to
other
cities
across
the
country.
I
was
wondering
our
relationship
with
the
municipal
court
to
other
cities.
Actually,
staff
have
their
own
administrative
law,
judges
for
hearings
on
ordinance
and
code
violations
like
that.
This
is
an
issue
that
we've
we've
talked
about
in
the
past
Adam
and
without
getting
into
too
many
details
in
this,
because
we're
focused
on
the
budget.
But
how
do
we?
How
do
we
actually
improve
our
code
enforcement
in
in
terms
of
Municipal
system.
C
Well,
those
are
two
really
challenging
questions
that
I
will
give
you
bad
answers
to
right
now
with
respect
to
the
first
sort
of
like
what
is
the
survey
of
other
cities
across
the
country.
Look
like
I,
I'm,
really,
not
sort
of
equipped
to
give
you
a
knowledgeable
answer
right
now,
but
what
I
will
say
is
some.
C
Yes,
in
other
states,
it's
there
are
cities
that
have
different
systems,
but
I'm,
not
an
expert
on
those.
So
so
don't
really
want
to
speak
to
it
and
with
respect
to
sort
of
our
our
code
enforcement
work,
I
will
say
three
things.
First
would
love
to
continue
that
conversation
at
a
time
when
I'm
prepared
to
be
more
knowledgeable
than
right
now?
Second,
we
do
have
you
know.
C
Our
Attorneys
at
ISD
are
very
involved
with
this
type
of
work
as
well
as
you
know,
so
so
we
are
actively
working
on
that
actively
supporting
it.
But
it's
you
know,
I
know
it's
a
constant
Challenge
and
the
third
thing
is:
we
do
have
attorneys
in
the
government
services
division
who
you
know
similarly
are
supporting
clients
who
are
facing
the
same
challenges.
So
there's
a
lot
to
talk
about
there's
a
lot
of
upcoming
work.
There
I
think
there's
you
know,
I
know
that
the
photo
commission
is
being
put
together
right
now.
C
That
will
be
another
sort
of
exciting
Challenge
on
this
front.
So
I
know
that's
not
a
great
answer
counselor,
but
that's
the
best
I
can
do
right
now.
E
So
in
terms
of
just
enforcement
Alberto
and
those
sort
of
things,
I
know
it's
a
challenging.
It's
transition
for
some
landlords
to
to
pick
up
that
that
step
up
to
Birdo
two.
E
Do
you
do
you
folks
have
enough
like
I
know,
you've
got
eight
vacancies
now
and
you're
hopeful
that
you're
going
to
fill
those
vacancies
and
that,
where
you're
going
to
be
fully
staffed
to
be
able
to
meet
the
the
challenges
of
this
new
week,
we
keep
throwing
new
ordinances
at
you
all
the
time.
So
are
we
up
to
speed
with
the
full
staff
to
meet
the
challenge.
C
Yes,
right,
we
have
the
current
vacancies.
We've
requested
a
couple
of
additional
positions:
you're
right,
counselor,
like
the
city,
continues
to
grow
and
evolve
and
there's
new
work,
but
we
also,
as
a
department,
need
to
grow.
You
know
be
realistic
about
our
pace
of
growth,
and
you
know
another
thing
that
we
are
doing
is
you
know
again,
you
know
you
and
I
are
on
the
same
page
about
shouting
out
Henry
lutein
today,
because
it's
a
both
a
sad
and
exciting
day.
C
You
know
going
back
to
that
sort
of
work.
I
mentioned
that
he
did
a
couple
years
ago.
We
are
retaining
and
sort
of
developing
the
team.
C
We
have
here
now
to
be
sort
of
more
experienced
and
we
want
to
sort
of
add
to
that
but
add
to
it
in
a
way
that
makes
experience
one
of
the
Hallmarks
of
this
department,
so
the
pace
that
we've
requested
is
one
that
we
think
allows
us
to
both
grow
to
meet,
needs
and
be
reasonable
about
quality
in
developing
experience
and
doing
it
in
a
measured
way
over
time.
C
So
next
year,
if
I'm
lucky
enough
to
be
at
this
hearing,
hopefully
I
will
be
asking
you
for
a
couple
of
additional
positions
as
well
to
continue
meeting
the
city's
growing
work.
Very
good.
Thank.
A
Thank
you,
Council
Braven,
also
Clarity.
You
have
the
floor.
A
F
Good
morning
Adam
and
to
your
team
appreciate
the
work
you
do
and
you
guys
have
always
been
responsive
and
congratulations
to
Henry
on
a
well-deserved
vacation,
always
providing
great
counsel
and
over
the
years
Council,
and
he
have
been
involved
in
a
number
of
battles
and
on
behalf
of
the
corporation
so
and
he's
always
provided
excellent
legal
advice,
great
temperament
and,
and
it
served
our
city
well
so
congrats
to
Henry
at
least
tuned
in
all
the
best
Adam.
F
This
one
of
the
slides
showed
31
of
of
Law
Services,
go
to
litigation,
I
believe
and
then
in
U.S
slide.
You
had
mentioned
I
think
it
said:
28
goes
to
outside
counsel.
So
is
it
it's
fair
to
say
that
anything
that
you
know
we
go
to
court
in
terms
of
actual
litigation
that
we're
farming,
that
out
and
I
guess
initial?
Why?
Why
are
we
not
allowing
our
attorneys
to
to
get
that
trial
experience
to
get
the
training,
particularly
on
some
of
the
general
liability
stuff?
F
You
know
and
I
I
understand
the
specialized
areas,
that's
kind
of
a
different
different
conversation
in
terms
of
a
if
it's
a
special
area
of
law
or
someone
when
someone
has
a
expert
knowledge
and
we
want
to
retain
their
services
on
behalf
of
the
corporation,
because
that's
our
responsibility
but
sort
of
on
the
mundane
on
the
routine
show
the
general
liability
stuff.
Hopefully
our
our
lawyers
are
getting
ice
time
and
we're
honing
this
skills
as
litigators
as
opposed
to
just
immediately
saying.
Oh
Jesus
is
going
to
go
to
trial.
F
C
Counselor
I
really
appreciate
that
question
in
in
a
moment
I'm
going
to
ask
Susan.
Why
is
he
the
first
assistant
Corporation
Council
for
litigation
to
weigh
in
because
I
think
she'll
be
able
to
describe
to
you
very
helpfully,
but
I?
Think
you're
totally
right
about
is
concept
of
ice
time,
but
let
me
just
so
quickly
say
actually
Susan's
team
and
the
team
at
UPS
and
the
team
at
the
police
department
and
even
the
team
in
government
services
go
to
court
and
to
trial
a
lot
a
lot
more
than
outside
firms.
C
You'll
hear
more
about
that.
One
thing,
I'll
point
out
is
you're
right
about
that.
That
breakdown
I
will
just
note
that
we
have
litigation
going
on
in
in
other
places
too
right.
So
the
police,
legal
advisor
team
and
the
school
legal
advisor
team,
which
aren't
popping
up
in
that
litigation,
number,
are
doing
a
lot
of
in
court
litigation.
The
government
services
team,
although
the
nature
of
that
work,
involves
fewer
jury
trials,
is
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
court
as
well.
C
So
when
you
add
that
together,
the
balance
I
think
looks
a
little
more
like
one
that
you
would
find
reasonable
counselor,
but
I
would
love
to
turn
this
over
to
Susan
for
a
minute.
F
And
I
appreciate
that
Adam,
that's
obviously,
if
you're,
pointing
in
on
on
that
through
the
chair,
if
I
could
just
get
if
I
could
get
a
list
of
current
and
ongoing
litigation.
That
is
that
would
be
helpful.
To
sort
of
to
that
breakdown,
as
you
just
discussed,
is
the
stuff
on
the
general
liability
side.
F
Etc
then
there's
the
other
things
that
we're
providing
school
department
in
the
police
department,
but
if
I
could
get
a
a
current
list
of
active,
open,
ongoing
cases
against
the
city,
I
would
appreciate
it
through
the
champ
and
and
I'll
await
the
response,
and
then
that'll
conclude
my
questions.
Manager.
C
Absolutely
we
will
and
I
would
love
to
give
Susan
just
one
minute
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
serious
work
her
team
does
in
court.
Thank.
C
F
A
Attorney
assidivam
you
we!
If
it's
okay
with
you,
we
expect
to
have
that
information
within
the
next
seven
days.
Absolutely
Madam
chair!
Thank
you!
So
much
Susan.
L
Thank
you
very
much,
yeah
Council
Clarity.
Just
so
you
know
almost
all
of
the
litigation
trial
work
goes
through
my
litigators.
We
have
at
least
in
the
litigation
side.
We
have
very
very
few
cases
at
this
point
that
are
with
outside
counsel,
I
I
know
of
five.
Currently
two
of
them
are
winding
down,
so
that
leaves
maybe
three
people
an
outside
Council
that
are
handling
three
cases.
L
The
other
200
cases
that
are
currently
active
and
open
right
now
in
litigation
are
all
being
handled
by
the
attorneys
here
in
the
Law
Department
since
the
beginning
of
this
year
and
I
guess
even
from
last
fall,
we've
gone
to
one
trial
after
another.
We
are
starting
another
trial
next
Monday
in
federal
district
court,
so
we
are
handling
I
would
suggest
you
95
of
all
litigation
in
the
city
of
Boston.
A
G
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you.
Everybody
Adam
for
your
your
presentation
and
Pilar
great
work.
I
had
a
lot
of
my
questions
answered,
except
for
one
and
apologies
if
I've
missed
this
I
know
that
there
have
been
reports
of
our
public
records,
Department
being
a
little
slow
and
to
respond
to
folks
I'm
wondering
if
there's
any
additional
staff
capacity.
That's
going
to
be
added
to
that
in
your
in
your
requests.
C
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Counselor.
We
within
the
seven
open
positions
that
we
have
right
now,
one
of
the
key
attorney
positions.
We're
looking
to
fill
is
a
records
focused
attorney
in
the
Boston
Police
Department
legal
advisor's
office.
C
C
C
So,
yes,
we
actually
do
think
they
need
additional
resources
and
there's
already
within
our
budget,
the
the
key
next
resource
that
we
think
that
Collective
team
needs,
but
you're
you're
right
that
this
is
an
area
of
emphasis
for
us.
In
addition
to
additional
staff
resources,
we
are
sort
of
actively
that
team
is
actively
looking
at
sort
of
a
variety
of
process
stuff
to
to
increase
our
speed
and
responsiveness.
So
thank
you.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that,
and
are
there
any
technological
needs
that
you
need
that
this
department
needs
to
to
help
in
in
that
regard,
like
what
sort
of
internal
systems
I've
been
really
interested
to
understand,
just
how
archaic
some
of
our
technology
systems
are
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
how
it
hinders
us
to
provide
essential
constituent
Services,
just
like
public
records
requests,
so
I'm
wondering
you
know
what
do
you
use
and
if
you
do
use
anything
at
all
and
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
investment
there
as
well.
C
Yes,
the
public
records
team
uses
a
software
system
called
gov
QA
to
sort
of
manage
and
produce
records
in
response
to
records
requests.
This
is
actually
a
relatively
new
few
years
old
investment
for
the
city.
So
on
the
public
records
front,
the
answer
is
no
there's
not
a
a
new
investment
that
we
need.
C
We've
actually
in
sort
of
fairly
recent
history
made
that
investment
Citywide-
and
you
know
our
emphasis
this
year-
really
is
on
sort
of
continued
adoption
throughout
all
of
our
departments
and
sort
of
process
work,
but
in
the
short
run,
I,
don't
think
we
have
a
sort
of
technological
need
there.
I
I
will
say
that
not
this
year,
but
I
do
think
that
in
at
some
point
in
the
indefinite
future,
we
may
come
to
this
body
with
a
request
for
not
on
the
public
record
side.
C
But
just
you
know,
records
case
management
software
and
we
do
like
Susan's
group
The
litigation
group
does
a
ton
of
Discovery
because
we
do
civil
litigation
here,
that's
becoming
more
electronic
heavy
every
passing
year.
So
it
could
be
that
in
the
future
sort
of
the
law
departments
case
management
system,
an
ability
to
integrate
it
with
electronic
Discovery
would
be
something
where
we
would
seek
an
investment.
C
But
we
are
not
asking
for
that
this
year
and
we
think
that
we
would
rely
on
sort
of
do
it
to
lead
us
in
that
process.
If
we
get
to
that
point,.
H
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
all
so.
I
just
have
a
few
questions
and
some
of
them
are
really
specific.
Around
process
Adam,
if
you
don't
mind
kind
of
sharing
with
me,
there
have
been.
You
know,
several
incidences
where.
H
Residents
have
had
issues
with
the
city
and
sometimes
find
themselves
being
sued
by
the
city,
which
is
you
know,
interesting
and
I'm.
Just
curious
about
you
know:
what's
your
decision
making
model
process
in
terms
of
like
things
that
you
decide
to
take
on
or
things
that
you
parse
out,
you
know
that
potentially
be
seen
as
a
conflict
of
interest
that
you
don't
think
that
it's
something
that
the
city
should
be
pursuing
like
what's
your
decision-making
model
or
for
things
like
that.
C
Thank
you,
counselor
on
some
level,
I
I'd
have
to
say
it's
everything's
going
to
be
really
sort
of
case
specific
around.
Here
we
do
in
this
department
some
enforcement
type
work
right.
We
have
a
as
we
mentioned
before,
for
the
revolving
fond
of
just
in
general.
When
city
property
is
damaged,
we
do
pursue
claims
that
is
ordinarily
against.
C
If
a
residential
or
commercial
property
owner
is
delinquent
on
their
taxes
at
the
end
of
the
year
by
law,
that
shortfall
becomes
a
lien
against
the
property,
and
that
lien
is
one
that
the
Law
Department
manages
the
enforcement
of
and
collections
I
will
say
that
our
tax
title
group
is
extremely
oriented
towards
ensuring
that
the
collection
of
taxes
does
not
affect
people's
ability
to
remain
in
their
home,
they're,
very
flexible
and
always
looking
for
ways
for
the
taxpayer
to
get
rid
of
the
lien,
and
you
know
by
law
like
we
do
have
to
take
certain
steps
with
respect
to
sort
of
filing
the
lien
in
court
Etc.
C
But
on
the
back
end,
that
group
makes
every
effort
to
sort
of
be
flexible
and
aware
of
people's
situation
and
I
do
not
believe
and
I
don't
want
to
say.
This
is
an
absolute
that
we've
foreclosed
on
any
lien
where
somebody
lives
in
a
property
in
many
many
many
years
right
far,
you
know,
finally,
over
an
ISD
we
do
and
and
sort
of
in
with
support
of
the
fire
department.
C
The
fire
department
and
ISD
do
pursue
like
enforcement
actions
under
like
the
sanitary
code,
the
building
code,
the
fire
code,
zoning
code,
health
inspection
codes
against
properties
that
are
not
compliant
and
have
either
safety
issues
or
or
issues
of
non-compliance
that
have
been
brought
to
the
department
by
neighbors
or
something.
So
we
do
pursue
that
type
of
Code
Enforcement
litigation.
C
But
beyond
that,
I
don't
have
a
great
sort
of
overarching
answer:
they're
sort
of
specific
within
each
of
those
piles,
but
happy
at
any
point
to
discuss.
You
know
any
specific
instances
that
give
you
a
better
sense
of
the
Department's
thinking.
Yeah.
H
Thank
you
Adam.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
do
just
have
one
last
question
for
the
law
and
I
want
to
abuse
super
Mindful
and
respectful
of
everybody's
time.
H
A
H
H
Listen
I,
just
I
get
a
lot
of
calls
from
Municipal
Employees,
some
who
are
dealing
with
issues
of
they're,
more
Personnel
issues,
but
you
know
there
are,
you
know,
considering
suing
the
city
and
in
its
BPS
and
it's
you
know
it's
the
city
hall,
it's
different
types
of
departments,
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
speak
to
different
outside
of
city
hall
or
before
or
or
do
you
oversee
everything
that
deals
with
the
city
of
Boston,
just
I?
Think
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
Everything.
C
Right,
yeah
thanks!
Yes,
so
this
department,
it
deals
with
all
all
employment.
H
Actions
against
the
city,
yeah,
okay,
okay,
got
it
so
I
guess.
My
question
is
specifically
right
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
cases
that
I've
come
across
of
people
of
color
in
particular,
being
let
go
of
their
jobs
or
you
know
whatever
the
case
is
and
I'm
just
curious
if
you've
seen
an
uptick
and
a
trend
in
regards
to
this
issue
and
people
pursuing
litigation
as
a
way
to
a
restorative
justice,
corrective
acting
type
of
situation,.
C
Counselor
I'd
like
to
offer
to
just
follow
up.
We
can
actually
just
look
through.
Maybe
you
know
some
number
of
years
of
cases
to
see
you
know
to
give
you
some
feedback
on
sort
of
the
number
of
sort
of
employment
and
mcad
cases
that
the
cities
received
over
time,
because
I,
don't
I,
don't
feel
like
I
have
a
good.
You
know,
I,
don't
feel
that
I
will
give
you
a
correct
off
the
cuff
answer,
but
we
will
give
you
sort
of
a
trend
of
maybe
five
years
or
something
all
right.
A
You
thank
you
councilman
here.
Will
you
be
submitting
that
in
writing
as
well.
C
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
law,
staff
and
sorry.
If
I
got
these
numbers
wrong,
but
I
think
I
heard
about
20
percent.
Well,
20
of
the
budget
is
contracted
for
services,
but
they
cover
a
small
portion
of
cases.
M
L
Simply
because
that
they
demand
a
much
higher
hourly
rate
that
a
law
Department
acc's,
get
themselves
I
mean
there's
there's
no
comparison.
Frankly,
our
current
normal
outside
Council
rate
is
265
an
hour
which
is
extremely
low,
Market
wise,
but
some
of
the
outside
Council
demand
a
bit
more,
not
a
lot
more
in
order
to
do
some
of
the
cases.
So
that's
why
there's
a
budgetary
problem
there
if
it's
a
problem
but
yeah,
there's
not
that
very
many
cases,
but
when
you
hire
outside
counsel,
they
demand
a
lot
of
money
on
an
hourly
rate.
L
Necessarily,
it
depends
because
if
we
have
a
conflict,
presenting
of
employees
have
to
send
cases
out
and
if
there's
a
a
case
or
tip
that
requires
a
a
certain
level
of
expertise
that
we
may
not
have.
We
will
send
that
out
as
well,
but,
for
instance,
if
we
get
a
case
of
where
there's
a
four
or
five
police
officers
being
sued,
you
may
need
outside
counsel
just
due
to
a
potential
conflict
of
interest
in
representing
so
many
people.
All
at
once.
L
L
M
And
there
was
a
line
item
for
transportation
as
a
person
with
a
a
large
increase
from
last
year,
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
get
clarification
on
what
that
money
is
used
for
transportation
of
persons.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
counselor
I
believe
so
I
think
you're
going
to
see
this
like
in
basically
every
Department
that
that's
the
MBTA
Pass
Program.
C
So
we
didn't
have
that
last
year.
So
that's
going
to
be
reflected
in
each
departmental
budget,
I
believe
so.
Ours
has
that
big
increase
so
that
you
know
we
got
right
now,
68
employees,
most
of
us
are
signed
up,
I
think
so
that's
where
that
number
comes
from
counselor.
M
And
then
also
60
increase
in
personal
Personnel
costs.
Is
this
increase
in
Staffing
increasing
salaries,
and
can
you
give
me
a
breakdown
if
there's
a
combination
of
both.
C
Yeah
sure
I
think
it's
a
10
increase
counselor
and
it
is
there's
three
things.
Sort
of
making
up
that
increase
one
is
it
takes
into
account
anticipated
step
increases
for
the
whole
group
in
the
next
fiscal
year.
C
This
fiscal
year
we
re-graded
some
employees
so
they're
just
going
to
hit
higher
next
year,
and
we
have
requested
two
additional
positions
for
relatively
experienced
attorneys
in
here.
So
that's
those
three
things
make
up
the
the
10
increase,
counselor.
M
Yeah
no
I
know
it's
a
10
increase
this
year,
but
since
2021
I
believe
it
was
60.
Oh.
C
Oh
I
apologize
yeah,
so
yeah
in.
C
C
Early
2021,
the
human
resources
department,
with
Law
Department
leadership,
sort
of
conducted
a
very
thorough
sort
of
salary
study
compared
to
other
Municipal
law
departments,
essentially
in
this
region,
because
we
were
having
huge
retention
problems
and
there
was
a
sort
of
there
was
a
significant
salary
increase
that
came
out
of
that.
So
there
was
a
I
think
a
pretty
big
jump
going
into
probably
into
fiscal
22
from
that
is
my
memory.
M
Thank
you
no
further
questions.
Thank.
A
Thank
you,
councilor
Lucian.
You
have
the
floor.
A
I
guess
she's
not
with
us
counselor
president
Flynn,
you
have
the
floor.
N
Thank
you
to
Adam
and
the
legal
team
for
for
being
on
and
I
know
we're
we're
going
to
recognize
the
years
of
service
through
attorney
Henry
goutine
and
thanking
Henry.
So
on
behalf
of
the
city
council.
Just
wanted
to
acknowledge
the
incredible
service
Henry
provided
to
the
city
of
Boston
in
residence.
For
so
many
years
is
an
outstanding
lawyer
and
very
ethical
ethical
person,
so
Adam
I
guess.
My
question
is
on
on
funding
for
the
for
the
law
office
for
the
for
the
water
department.
N
Rather
young
young
attorneys,
starting
out
that
are
that
are
working
in
in
your
department.
N
How,
how
are
you
competing
with
law
firms
in
Boston
that
also
are
are
recruiting
the
same
lawyers
and
in
law?
Firms
in
Boston
are
probably
paying
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
what
the
salary
would
be
for
a
young
attorneys
starting
out,
150
000,
I
I,
don't
know,
but
but
how?
How
are
you
competing
in
that
regard,
but
also
attorneys
that
work
for
you
that
have
say
four
or
five
years
experience
and
then
maybe
they're
starting
to
have
you
know
they
want
to
have
a
family?
N
Maybe
they
they
just
can't
make
it
on
on
that
salary.
But
how
do
you?
How
do
you
retain
those
attorneys
that
have
five
years
of
good
experience
representing
the
residents
of
Boston
and
then,
unfortunately,
leave
losing
them
because
of
because
the
salary
may
not
be
what
what
they
need
to
support
their
family.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
President,
it's
a
really
tricky
question
and
I
think
I'll
just
say
a
couple
things
about
it.
You
know.
First
of
all,
obviously
you
have
identified
some
some
real
dynamics
that
are
like
a
very
real
challenge
for
our
Hiring
Our
retention,
including
our
intent
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
diverse
Workforce,
that's
sort
of
capable
of
understanding
and
solving
the
many
challenges
the
city
faces.
C
So
this
is
a
challenge,
but
it's
you
know.
I
I
will
say
that
it's
it's
not
you.
C
C
C
C
C
A
second
thing
is
sort
of
going
back
to
Susan's
answer
before
about
how
her
litigators
are
in
court.
You
know
they
use
it
like
our
work
is.
C
Part
of
what
sells
this
job
and
part
of
what
hopefully
keeps
people
here
a
little
longer
than
they
might
otherwise
be
right.
You
get
to
do
a
lot
here.
We
are
a
lean,
Department
I
think
that
we're
very
efficient
in
what
that
means
is
that
line
attorneys
have
a
lot
of
responsibility
and
they
get
to
do
a
lot
of
things
they
get
to
use
their
own
judgment
and
they
get
to
see
the
way
that
their
work
impacts
like
real
lawsuits.
C
Real
projects
out
in
the
community
so
as
much
as
the
salary
is
a
real,
a
legitimate
issue.
I
I
also
want
to
lift
up
that.
C
We
get
to
do
really
interesting
work
here
and
we
get
to
do
it
in
support
of
departmental
clients
who
are
trying
to
do
really
great
things
in
the
city.
So,
hopefully
we're
offering
a
little
bit
to
make
up
for
that.
But
I
I
don't
know
Mr
President
it.
It
remains
a
challenge.
I
think
the
salary
reset
in
mid-21
is
critical
and
really
important,
and
we
will
see
how
it
goes.
N
Thank
you,
Adam
Madam,
chair
do
I
have
time
for
one
one
more
question.
Just.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
just
on
on
that
on
still
on
that
issue,
Adam
is
there
a
program
that
you
have
or
the
law
department
has
in
terms
of
working
with
law
firms,
I
mean
I'm,
sorry
working
with
law
schools
in
Boston,
where
you
are
recruiting
people
out
of
out
of
law
schools,
but
is
there
a
program
where
the
city
of
Boston
might
also
help
them
or
partner
with
the
Lost
law
school
with
the
tuition?
Assistance
for
young
attorneys
that
might
have
a
huge
legal
I
mean
tuition.
N
Bill
could
be
as
high
as
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
long-school
tuition,
but
is
there
a
program
where
you
might
offer
some
type
of
benefit
in
terms
of
tuition
assistance
to
come
work
to
for
this?
For
the
people
of
Austin.
C
Program
like
that
other
than
the
federal
public
interest
loan
forgiveness,
which
our
attorneys
are
all
eligible
for,
which
has
been
great
but
I,
very
interesting.
Future
idea-
and
you
know
we
we
are
trying
to
always
find
ways
to
in
you-
know,
connect
more
to
our
interns
more
to
the
law.
Schools
get
people
excited
about
what
they
can
do
here
before
they
just
move.
You
know
just
see
the
salaries,
so
thank
you
and
I
love.
The
idea.
N
A
Absolutely
council,
president
Flynn
attorney
cedarbomb
I
think
that
we
are
wrapping
up
with
you.
I
only
have
a
couple
questions
and
then
I
will
get
a
concept
consensus
from
my
colleagues.
If
they
want
you
to
remain
or
leave
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
exactly
how
to
does
the
Law
Department
prioritize
its
clients,
such
as
the
mayor
city,
council
or
departments.
C
C
Government
services
team-
you
know
essentially
the
the
way
it
works
is
every
Department
has
an
attorney
assigned
to
it.
Okay,
we
don't
do
a
lot
of
prioritization.
C
We
just
take
whatever
comes
in
our
largest
departments.
Have
you
know
police
schools
actually
have
like
dedicated
staff?
Thank
you,
but
I'm.
Sorry,
I,
don't
want
my
ringer
off,
but
we
the
the
answer,
is
like
we
don't
do
a
lot
of
that.
Maybe
it
would
be
more
efficient,
but
we
just
really
try
to
handle
all
the
issues,
questions
and
lawsuits
that
come
in.
A
C
Yeah,
so
let
me
yeah
so
do
we
have
like
a
system
of
measurement
and
sort
of
internal
billing?
The
answer
is,
no,
you
know,
I
would
say
instead
sort
of,
like
you
know,
at
the
as
part
of
this
budget
process,
we
sort
of
looked
at
sort
of
our
our
capacity
needs
and
sort
of
within
each
group
sort
of
thought
about
which
group
needs
a
little
more
capacity,
we've
kind
of
assigned.
C
We
have
these
seven
open
positions,
so
they're
sort
of
allocated
where
we
believe
we
currently
need
a
little
more
capacity
and
then
we
identified
sort
of
you
know
additional
sort
of
big
surges
of
workflow
that
we
anticipate
in
the
coming
year
or
that
we
saw
last
year
that
we
need
to
address
which
sort
of
we
couldn't
plug
with
those,
which
is
why
we've
requested
the
two
additional
sort
of
experienced
attorney
positions.
A
Okay,
how
do
you,
how
does
a
law
department
plan
to
utilize
external
funds
I
know
that
we
covered
it
short
briefly
and
I?
Guess
how
does
that
impact
your
utilization
overall.
B
C
I
I
would
like
to
confirm
this
answer
and
return
to
it
after
this
counselor,
but
I.
Don't
think
we
really
use
external
funds,
I
might
have
that
incorrect
or
our
external
funds.
C
Looking
at
our
external
funds,
history-
and
you
know
essentially
I
think
what
we
have
in
it
is.
C
Oh,
you
know
what
I
I
apologize
I
see
it
here.
I
would
like
to
check
where
that
number
is
coming
from
with
budget
I
think
that
this
is
related
to
our
revolving
fund,
but
I
would
like
to
confirm
and
I'm
either
happy
to
come
back
or
do
so
in
writing.
Whatever
the
chair's
preference
is,
please.
A
In
terms
of
showing
up
to
hearings
when
counselors
need
clarification,
advice
just
supports
and
hearings.
What
are
what
are
the
protocols
when
we
request
for
you
to
show
up.
C
A
Something
is
there
a
protocol
policy
in
place
that
would
prevent
us,
my
apologies
that
would
prevent
you
from
showing
up
to
hearings
if
counselors
yeah
be
positive.
Yes,.
C
The
the
city
ordinance
creating
the
Law
Department
sort
of
says
that
we
should
do
this
legal
advising
in
writing
at
the
request
of
the
council
or
a
committee
in
in
the.
The
reason
is
because
rendering
legal
advice,
sort
of
publicly
in
real
time
is
sure,
really
difficult
way
for
us
to
give
sound
legal
advice
so
based
on
the
city
ordinance
with
that
sort
of
policy
background
beneath
it.
It
is
the
reason
that
we
don't
render
verbal
legal
advice
in
real
time
unless.
A
But
does
it
prevent
you
from
showing
up
and
reviewing
your
your
responses?
We've
asked
for
it
in
writing.
We've
asked
for
it
in
writing
and
now
we're
inviting
you
so
that
the
console
can
actually
review
your
responses
and
we
prefer
it
from
you
say
we
invite
you.
We've
already
asked
you
in
writing
and
you've
already
written
it.
What
prevents
you
from
showing
up
and
reviewing
what
you
wrote
in
writing.
C
Well,
I
think
the
response
would
just
kind
of
speak
for
itself.
There
I
mean
I
mean
certainly.
A
C
It's
an
interesting
question
and
I
don't
really
know
how
to
answer
it.
Let
me
just
say
this
to
say
like
to
say
how
do
we
ask
stuff?
That's
not
part
of
the
written
answer.
No.
C
I
mean
you
could
certainly
just
like
you
could
just
ask
for
a
clarification.
We
could
clarify
it
in
writing.
I
I'm,
not
saying
there
could
never
be
a
situation,
but
it
runs
into
that
same
problem
right
like
which
is
I.
A
C
C
You
know
perhaps
I'm
not
thinking
through
all
the
situations
and
certainly
happy
to
sort
of
consider
things
Case
by
case,
but
that's
sort
of
the
general
principle
based
on
our
ordinance.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
in
this
hearing
to
my
concert.
Colleagues,
do
you
have
any
binaural
question,
not
questions
to
ask
at
this
moment,
but
questions
to
ask?
After
should
we
let
the
Law
Department
go
or
should
we
ask
them
to
wait
here
with
us
with
no
objections
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
dismiss
them?
A
A
C
You
thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
to
the
entire
committee
and
we
we
know
we
have
some
follow-ups
in
writing
and
we
will
get
them
to
the
committee
promptly
really
appreciate
everybody's
time
and
thoughtfulness
and
collegiality
today.
So
thank
you
and
hopefully
we
will
see
some
people
at
we.
We
all
have
I
can
assure
you.
C
Henry
lutein
is
listening
in
right
now,
so
he
heard
many
people's
kind
words,
but
I
know
he
would
love
to
see
you
all
either
at
Kessler,
Flynn's
event
tomorrow
or
or
the
law
Department
event
after
work
today.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you.
Thank
you
attorney
Cedar
bomb,
and
we
appreciate
you
Susan.
Thank
you
and
applar
I
appreciate
you
see
you
soon.
A
On
to
Treasury,
since
Maureen
Joyce
is
here
by
herself:
let's
do
should
we
should
we
do
auditing?
Do
you
guys
have
a
preference.
A
Right
that
works.
For
me,
the
floor
is
yours,
for
if
you
do
you
have
a
presentation,
would
you
like
to
just
talk
it
through
or
good
morning,
Madam
chair,
I,
I.
P
Don't
have
a
presentation:
I
was
just
going
to
kind
of
talk
it
through
and
I
I
think
Maureen
joists
just
threw
down
the
gauntlet,
so
I
think
I
better.
Do
a
good
job
here
so
good
morning
to
everyone.
So
the
treasury
Department
much
like
the
law
department,
is
really
Personnel
based.
So
we
have
32
employees,
which
includes
five
openings
and
three
Consultants.
The
three
Consultants
are
very
Niche
consultants
in
the
CPA
world,
so
the
treasury
Department
is
essentially
broken
out
into
three
verticals.
P
If
you
will
the
community
preservation
team-
which
is
you
know,
programmatic
and
operations,
team,
the
trust
team
which
is
also
programmatic
in
operations
and
then
the
basic
City
operations
of
the
Treasury
Department,
the
the
city
operations,
it's
just
that
it's
really
a
back
office
operations.
We
manage
the
cash
and
Investments
we
issue
approximately:
a
hundred
thousand
payments
monthly
to
staff,
retirees
and
vendors
balance,
the
city's
books
we
oversee
and
administer
the
403
b
program.
P
You
know
we
deal
with
IRS
filings,
Revenue
receipts
for
non-tax
revenues,
a
myriad
of
other.
You
know
important
tasks
that
ensure
the
city
is
meeting
our
obligations.
The
trust
department
has
more
than
350
trusts
that
support
everything
from
library
books
to
public
improvements,
Boston,
schools,
libraries
and
parks
are
beneficiaries
of
these
trusts.
P
Other
important
trusts
that
I
know
you're
well
aware
of
are
the
jobs,
trust
the
Neighborhood,
Housing,
Trust
and
also
notable
about
the
trusts.
Is
that
because
they're
not
City
funds,
they
do
their
own
accounting,
they
do
their
own
financial
statements
and
have
an
annual
audit.
So
lots
of
work
being
done.
Lots
of
people
needed
the
community
preservation,
team,
I
I,
know
you're
you're
all
well
aware
of
them.
They
were
just
in
front
of
you
receiving
40
million
dollars
of
approval
for
56
very
deserving
projects
across
City,
neighborhoods
and
since
2018.
P
P
We
do
a
lot
of
infrastructure
work.
We
do
program
work
in
the
trust
and
in
the
CPA
team
we
still
have
five
significant
openings,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
that
we
have
gained
tremendous
ground
in
the
last
two
years
in
hiring.
P
We
really
struggled
through
2122
finding
you
know
qualified
Personnel,
but
we've
been
fortunate
of
late
to
promote
from
within
and
find
people
are
applying
again,
so
we
literally
weren't
even
having
people
apply
for
positions,
so
we're
making
great
strides
and
we're
going
to
continue
making
those
great
strides
and
so
keeping
it
very
brief.
P
I
think
that's
what
I'd
like
to
highlight
today
is
that
if
you
look
at
our
budget,
where,
where
people
in
postage
so
postage
for
those
hundred
thousand
payments
that
are
going
out
the
door
but
otherwise
we're
you
know,
Personnel
driven
budget
I'll,
leave
it
at
that
and
I'll
actually
pass
it
over
to
my
colleague
Celia.
So
she
can
talk
about
the
collecting
side
because
we
we're
presented
as
one
budget,
but
we
have
two
different
looks.
A
Celia,
maybe
your
speaker
is
off
too
you're,
muted.
I
We
can
there
we
go
okay.
Let
me
try
that
again:
excellent
I'm
Celia
Baden
first
assistant
on
the
collecting
side
of
the
Treasury
Department,
the
mission
statement
for
the
collecting
division.
Is
we
collect
property
tax
All,
the
Monies?
That's
due
to
the
city
while
serving
taxpays
on
a
professional,
courteous
manner,
the
division
strives
on
high
property
collection
rate
and
pursues
all
collection
remedies
under
this
Massachusetts
state
law.
We
closed
last
year
at
a
collection
rate
at
99.1
percent.
I
We
owe
that
to
the
dedicated
staff.
We
have
28
staff
employees
that
Focus
strictly
on
help
and
taxpayers
working
with
tax
pays
with
financial
strides
and
just
making
sure
the
bills
go
out.
We
send
out
every
quarter,
168
000
real
estate
bills,
so
that
goes
out
four
times
a
year.
I
So
that's
close
to
675
000
original
bills
that
we
mail
postage
is
extremely
high,
but
total
with
excise
of
300
500
000
bills,
we
probably
send
out
a
million
bills
a
year.
We
do
a
lot
of
letter
campaigns.
We
do
a
lot
of
collection
efforts
for
people
that
are
having
difficulty
and
we've
done
a
few
enhancements
with
our
online
system.
We
send
out
reminder
emails
when
the
bill
before
the
bill
is
due.
I
We
allow
we
did
an
elderly
Outreach,
because
a
lot
of
elderly
don't
have
computers,
so
we
do
a
phone
they
can
call
in
by
phone
and
pay
their
bills.
The
total
commitment
for
last
Gia
or
just
our
real
estate
alone,
was
2.8
billion
dollars
and,
out
of
that,
our
collection
rate
was
99.1
percent.
I
We
have
a
really
dedicated
staff.
We
do
a
lot
of
we're
trying
to
do
a
lot
more
dealing
with
mortgage
companies
and
doing
a
lot
of
electronic,
so
we
don't
have
to
mail
bills,
but
we're
not
there.
Yet.
We
just
did
a
big
upgrade
on
our
computer
system
to
reach
to
Branch
out
some
new
enhancements
that
we're
trying
to
work
on
we
reach
out
to
age
strong.
I
If
somebody
comes
in
elderly
person,
they're
struggling,
we
have
age
strong
that
we
reach
out
to
we
reach
out
to
the
Home
Center
and
we
have
a
different
different
applications
that
we
have
to
try
to
help
people
in
paying
their
taxes
and
we're-
probably
not
as
we
don't
have
many
many
things
other
than
collecting.
But
the
staff
really
does
a
wonderful
job
on
what
they
do.
A
Thank
you
Cecilia
and
Maureen.
Both
I
I
mean
Beyond
Judiciary
interest.
I
guess
I
wanted
to
I
was
looking
forward
to
a
breakdown.
If
you
were
to
explain
to
a
10
year
old,
exactly
what
you
do
for
the
city
of
Boston,
what
would
you
say
is.
I
I
would
say:
I
work
for
the
city
of
Boston
to
bring
in
Revenue
to
help
run
the
city.
What's
Revenue
dollars,
money
to
help
programs
to
schools
to
help
with
the
police
with
the
fire
and.
I
You'll
have
tax
bills
all
right.
Thank
you,
questions
from
the
assessor's
office
and
then
we
generate
a
tax
bill
and
we
mail
it
out
and
we
follow
to
be
sure
that
people
are
collecting
awesome.
Thank
you
for
all
taxes
that
we
have
and
I'll
follow,
right
behind
Syrian
and
say
not
the
most
popular
department,
but
we
do
tonight.
P
I'll
follow
right
behind
and
say
what
Celia
doesn't
collect.
We
collect
or
other
departmental
revenues,
non-tax
revenues,
and
then
we
get
some
of
the
pleasure
of
spending
some
of
the
money.
So
we
pay,
we
get
to
pay
people
and
we
pay
the
vendors,
and
so
we
use
a
lot.
You
know
we
send
out
a
lot
of
the
money
that
is
collected
by
Celia's
Department.
A
Who,
who
are
the
vendors
English,
is
my
fourth
language,
so.
P
The
vendors
are
everybody
who
goes
through
the
accounts
payable
system
in
auditing
and
needs
to
be
paid,
so
that
could
be
the
people
that
are
working
on
the
city
streets.
That
could
be
people
that
we
bought
our
books
from.
So
the
city
has
an
obligation
to
pay
them
and
auditing
does
the
accounting
work
and
then
we
issue
those
checks
for
electronic
payments
to
those
people.
A
P
A
Fantastic,
thank
you
Karishma.
Are
you
ready
for
us.
A
All
right,
whenever
you're
ready.
K
K
So
we
just
have
two
divisions:
treasury
division,
which
has
these
specific
programs
underneath
that,
at
least
according
to
the
org
charts,
Administration
general
service,
payroll,
accounting
accounts,
receivable
and
Trust.
Sorry
I
forgot
to
add
that
in
and
then
collect
and
division,
General
management,
special
collections,
payment
services,
accounting,
slash
special
assessments,
and
then
this
is
just
what
the
department
mission
is.
K
And
then
this
is
a
breakdown
of
what
fy24
treasury
recommended
by
program.
So
the
programs
are
listed
on
the
right
five
and
color
coded
by
the
chart
on
the
left,
and
you
have
a
percentage
breakdown
as
well.
So
you
have
17.2
percent
to
treasury
Administration,
followed
by
the
actual
amount
in
dollars,
which
is
972
thousand
seventy
six
dollars
and
18
cents.
K
So,
for
example,
you
can
see
the
general
management
has
increased
by
you
can
see
that
General
management
has
increased
by
approximately
120
000.
You
can
also
see
that
special
collections
has
decreased
by
about
three
thousand
dollars.
You
can
see
payment
services
has
increased
by
about
30
something
thousand
dollars
over
the
course
of
FY
23
to
fy24,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
that
breakdown
throughout
the
charts.
You
can
see
those
differences
as
you
work
your
way
down.
K
The
chart
accounts
receivable,
has
decreased
by
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
Trust
has
increased
by
about
seventy
nine
thousand
dollars
and
it's
general
service
and
payroll
has
increased
by
approximately
eighty
thousand
dollars
these.
All
these
are
all
rounded
sums.
Treasury
Administration
has
increased
by
approximately
150
000
again
rounded
sums.
I
will
give
you
proper
sums
in
my
next
presentation,
and
this
is
FY
treasury,
broken
down
by
expense
type.
K
So
on
the
right
you're
going
to
see
the
actual
expense,
type,
Personnel,
contractual
Services
supplies
and
materials,
current
charges
and
Equipment,
followed
by
the
percentile
percentage.
That
you
know
is
it's
taking
up
in
the
FY
24
recommended
budget
and
then
with
the
actual
expense
in
in
real
dollars,
so
30
million
a
3.8
million
dollars
for
personnel,
939
000
for
contractual,
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
it's
color
coded
as
well.
K
And
then
this
is
the
treasury
Administration
by
expense
time,
but
expense
type
over
time
in
the
following.
Slides,
which
you're
going
to
see
is
a
breakdown
of
each
program
over
time
by
the
expense
type.
So
there
will
be
nine
programs
that
we're
going
to
see
in
the
following
slides.
As
you
can
see
here,
personal
services
and
treasury
Administration
has
increased
by
approximately
170
170
000
contractual
Services
have
increased
by
approximately
forty
seven
thousand
dollars.
Supplies
and
materials
have
decreased
by
three
thousand
dollars
and
current
charges.
K
Applications
have
decreased
by
nine
thousand
dollars
in
the
next
slide.
We're
going
to
look
at
general
service
and
payroll
by
expense
type,
also,
the
way
that
the
slideshow
is
built
out.
The
first
five
should
be
the
treasury
Division,
and
the
next
four
should
be
the
collections
division
should
be.
Hopefully
it
is
so
Personnel
Services
have
increased
by
approximately
eighty
thousand
dollars.
Contractual
Services
have
decreased
by
seven,
approximately
seven
thousand
dollars
and
supplies
and
materials
have
stayed
constant
if
you
do
not
see
a
specific
expense
type
in
the
graph
that
you've
seen
in
other
graphs.
B
K
Would
be
the
reason
you're
not
seeing
it,
and
then
there
is
a
legend
on
the
right
as
well
just
so
you
can
always
refer
back
to
that
Legend
and
on
the
bottom.
Left
is
just
Austin,
and
then
we
have
treasury
counting
by
expense
type.
So,
as
you
can
see,
Personnel
Services
here
have
increased
by
approximately
thirty
thousand
dollars.
Contractual
Services
have
increased
by
approximately
one
thousand
dollars,
and
supplies
and
materials
have
stayed
constant.
K
This
is
the
trust
by
expense
type.
Over
time.
Personnel
Services
have
an
increase
by
proximately
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars
in
contractual
Services
have
increased
by
approximately
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
again
with
trust.
These
are
the
only
two
expense
type
expense
line
items
that
were
listed,
so
these
are
the
only
two
that
will
be
populated
graph.
K
K
Oh
actually,
sorry,
approximately
100
000
decrease
in
Personnel
Services,
a
two
thousand
dollar
increase
in
contractual
services
and
relatively
and
steady
on
supplies
and
materials.
This
is
General
management
by
expense.
Type
Personnel
Services
have
essentially
only
increased
by
about
nine
thousand
dollars
and
natural
Services
have
increased
by
approximately
103
000
supplies,
materials
of
States,
constant
and
current
charges
and
obligations
have
increased
by
five
thousand
dollars.
I
am
sorry
for
the
approximations.
K
My
actual
numbers
are
in
the
notes
which
I
cannot
see
while
I'm
presenting
the
slides
and
then
this
is
special
collections
by
expense
type
over
time
again.
Three
thousand
dollars
in
in
increases
in
Personnel
Services,
one
thousand
dollars
in
increases
in
contractual
services
and
study
on
on
insurance
supplies
and
materials.
K
This
is
payment
services
by
expense
type
over
time.
This
is
approximately
17
000
increase
in
Personnel
Services,
two
thousand
dollar
increase
in
contractual
services,
but
that
is
on
the
back
of
a
three
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollar
decrease
in
contractual
services
from
FY,
22.
supplies
and
materials
have
increased
slightly
in
by
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars,
and
Equipment
has
stayed
relatively
same,
except
for
the
fact
that
it
decreased
by
eight
thousand
dollars
from
FY
22
to
FY
23,
and
then
there
are.
K
There
were
no
other
expenses
listed
for
fy24
or
fy22,
so
you
will
only
see
fy21
and
F1
fy21
and
FY
22
in
this
graph.
There
was
nothing
listed
for
fy23
and
fy24
many
many
numbers,
and
this
is
a
deeper
dive
into
the
data.
So
this
is
essentially
looking
at
the
departmental
history
in
comparison
to
external
funds.
K
This
is
this
can
be
found
in
the
budget
book
I
think
on
page
69
to
71,
and
so
it's
it's
that
data
kind
of
analyzed.
So
what
you
see
here
is
three
3.7
million
dollars
being
spent
in
permanent
employees
and
542
000
being
spent
out
of
external
funds,
so
that
blue
line
is
going
to
be
out
of
the
operating
budget.
General
funds
that
red
line
is
going
to
be
out
of
external
funds.
You
can
see
here,
Health
health,
insurance
or
health.
K
Health
costs
are
about
86,
000
in
terms
of
external
funds
and
pension
and
competition.
Competition
is
about
46
000
in
external
funds.
Over
time
is
45
000
in
in
the
operating
budget.
This
is
only
for
fy24,
so
this
is
only
looking
at
FY
24
numbers.
K
This
is
contractual
Services
operating
budget
versus
external
funds,
so
Communications
is
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
in
the
operating
budget
and
3
000
from
external
funds
in
repairs,
there's
17
000
from
the
operating
budget
and
in
transportation,
there's
32
000
from
the
operating
budget
and
ten
thousand
Correctional
funds.
The
biggest
line
item
here
is
going
to
be
contractual,
there's
867
000
in
contracted
services
and
out
of
the
operating
budget
and
525
000
out
of
external
funds,
supplies
and
materials.
K
The
only
big
line
item
that
we
can
see
here
is
office
supplies
and
materials
at
827
000
out
of
the
operating
funds,
and
this
is
current
charges
and
obligations.
This
is
a
reserve
account
of
37
million
dollars
which,
according
to
the
budget
book,
is
the
community
preservation
Act,
and
there
is
also
other
current
charges
at
32
000,
but
out
of
the
operating
fund
and
33
000
out
of
external
funds,
and
this
is
equipment
and
other
spending
some
miscellaneous
equipment.
K
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
Karishma
up
first
is
councilman
Murphy
still
with
us.
Okay,
Council
Braden.
You
have
the
floor.
E
And
thank
you
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
had
I
might
be
asking
the
wrong
people
a
question,
but
part
of
me.
If,
if
say
there
are
code
violations
with
fines
outstanding,
are
you
folks
responsible
for
those
collections
or
is
that
sort
of
still
in
the
bucket
of
ISD
or
the
particular
Department
that
issues
the
violation?
E
And
then
how
do
we
track
property
owners
who
are
not
paying
fines
like
I
know
in
this
neighborhood
we
have
folks
who
just
ignore
it
and
they
don't
they
don't
pay
the
fines
and
it
just
all
pies
up,
but
there's
no
accountability.
So
that's
it.
That's
just
a
question
of
how
we
handle
that
and
if
I'm
asking
the
wrong
people,
let
me
know
who
I
should
be
asking.
P
Oh
collections
is
done
by
the
department,
but
the
the
receipt
of
my
of
the
funds
is
done
within
treasury.
So
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
if
somebody
chooses
to
pay,
we
will
process
those
payments
Etc,
but
the
actual
collection
process
and
the
following
up
and
working
is
done
by
the
department
for
most
of
the
departmental
receivables.
P
E
Thank
you
all
right.
There
was
one
other
question.
E
A
Problem,
thank
you.
Council
Braden,
it's
called
Clarity
still
with
us,
no
councilor
Coletta,
counselor
Mejia.
You
have
the
floor.
Thank.
H
You
chair
and
thank
you
all
for
your
presentation
and
Karishma
I
am
so
glad
that
you
exist
in
this
world,
because
I
am
totally
the
type
of
learner
that
is
able
to
absorb
the
information
that
you
have
been
presenting
us
and
it's
just
so
easy
for
me
to
see
it
and
understand
it
and
actually
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
for
the
type
of
a
learner
that
I
am
so
I
just
want
to
say.
H
Thank
you
to
counselor
Anderson
for
having
the
foresight
to
understand
that
we
need
a
little
bit
more
than
what
we
just
get
so
that
we
can
be
set
up
for
Success.
So
just
really
do
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
your
team
has
been
putting
into
this
and
I
hope
that
that
does
not
include
my
time.
For
all
these.
You
know:
compliments
I
just
gave
you
so
my
time
begins
now
all
right,
so
I
I
just
have
a
quick
question
in
terms
of
the
treasury.
H
Department
I'm
curious
about
the
the
supplies
and
and
materials
like
a
hundred
and
that's
that's.
A
big
chunk
of
change
and
I
want
to
know
what
kind
of
supplies
y'all
are
working
with.
What
in
the
world
that
we
spending
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
in?
Please,
ladies
help.
B
P
To
stop
mailing
some
of
the
advices,
you
know
we
we
still
contractually
have
to
mail
advices
for
many
of
our
employees,
so
that
costs
us
a
great
amount
of
money.
So
I
agreed
with
you
that
email
or
Electronics
would
be
preferable
and
we
are
looking
at
that
constantly.
You.
H
Know
you're
gonna
have
to
have
people
come
pick
it
up
and
sign
for
it
or
something
just
because
800,
okay,
all
right.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
then
I
would
love
and
I
believe
you
all
oversee
a
lot
of
the
funds
that
we
have
right.
The
George
White
fund,
the
neighborhoods
jobs,
trust
funds
in
Europe,
jurisdiction
and
I'm.
Just
curious
in
terms
of
just
the
management
of
those.
H
Can
you
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about?
Does
each
fund
it's
it?
You
know
it
continues
to
increase
in
Revenue,
like
let's
say,
for
instance,
is
it
like
a
yearly
fund
for
the
George
White?
Do
you
get
additional
funding
and
you
have
to
administer
those?
Are
you
seeking
additional
funding
and
like
is
there?
Is
there
maintenance
of
work
or
is
that
just
automatically
just
that
fund
is
just
there
and
that's
it
so.
P
So
using
the
George
Robert
white
as
the
example
that
you
just
mentioned:
counselor
so
George
Robert,
White
left
X
number
of
dollars
to
the
city
for
specific
purposes,
so
those
trust
documents
State
what
they
could
be
used
for.
P
At
that
time
the
funds
were
invested
and
the
the
Investments
continue
today
and
then
we
draw
off
those
Investments.
We
do
a
annual
draw
of
five
percent
and
those
funds
are
then
used
for
the
purposes
of
the
George
Robert
White
Fund
in
this
example.
So
that
being
said
in
you
know,
there's
20,
20,
plus
properties
in
the
George
Robert
White
fund.
We
have
a
facilities
manager,
Margaret
Dyson
is
our
trust
director.
P
They
work
with
the
board
members
to
determine
what
the
needs
are
for
the
George
Robert
White
fund
that
year
and
use
those
funds
for
that
purpose.
H
Okay
and
then
in
terms
of
administrating
and
overseeing
these
funds
and
the
individuals
that
decide
that
is,
are
you
all
utilizing
any
of
the
funding
in
your
budget
to
help
facilitate?
You
know
that
work,
so
so
it.
P
Is
I
think
I'm
understanding
the
question
properly
but,
for
example,
I
just
used
the
trust
director's
name.
She
is
paid
by
the
trust
so
yeah,
so
those
funds
are
paid.
You
saw
in
what
Charisma
pulled
up
as
far
as
like
external
funds,
director
Brown's
salary
is
directly
out
of
those
external
funds
for
the
CPA
program.
So
yes,
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
not
all
out
of
the
operating
budget.
To
answer
your
question,
I
think,
is
what
you're
asking
me.
H
Yeah,
oh
you
so
I
don't
need
a
translator
with
you
Maureen.
You
know
exactly
what
I'm
getting
at
one
more
question
before
I
see
The
Gambler
get
turned
out,
I'm
just
curious
about
it.
Could
you
could
just
for
the
record
if
you
haven't
said
this
before
and
if
you
did
I
apologize
for
asking
me
to
repeat
it,
but
can
you
just
let
us
know
how
many
funds
the
city
administers.
P
There's
in
excess
of
350
trusts,
not
all
of
equal
size-
some
are
very
small.
Some
are
some
are
significant,
like
the
George
Robert
White
fund
is
a
significant
trust.
The
neighborhood,
the
Housing
Trust,
the
jobs,
trust
those
take
significantly
more
of
our
time
and
more
money.
It's
been
Parks
and
Rec,
so
all
things
not
being
equal,
but
there
are
in
excess
of
350
trucks
that
are
administered
and.
H
As
we
think
about
just
saving
money
and
just
really
thinking
about
kind
of
like
efficiency,
there's
something
I
think
that
we
could
potentially
look
at
in
terms
of
like
the
site.
I
know
that
they
were
given
and
they
were
donated,
and
you
know
they
were
set
up
for
something.
H
But
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
the
time
of
energy
that
it
takes
to
administer
these
300
funds
just
because
I
think,
if
there's
something
that
we
can
do
to
digitize
things
or
make
it
a
little
bit
more
seamless,
then
it's
worth
looking
into,
but
I
believe
that
my
time
is
up
and
I
really
do
appreciate
you
all
in
the
work
that
you
do
and
I'm
sorry
that
I'm
not
on
camera
but
I.
Think
you'd
be
happy
not
to
see
me
right
now.
So
thank.
M
Yes,
sorry
about
that,
I
was
muted.
Thank
you
to
the
charity.
Department
I
have
one
question
contractor
Services.
Can
you
talk
about?
You
know
what
what
what
are
contracted
services
like?
What
are
we
Contracting
out
and
then
also
do
we
see
any
of
the
new
staff
openings,
helping
to
drive
down
the
contractor
services
that
that
that
we
are
currently
Contracting
out
for.
P
To
use
right
now
are
predominantly
in
the
community
preservation
team,
so
we
have
three
Consultants
two
for
historic
preservation
and
one
open
space
and
Recreation
consultant
and
I
I
do
know
that
director
Brown
has
has
used
these
Consultants,
because
it's
a
very
Niche
type
of
work
that
they
do
I
I
will
tell
you
that
I
I
believe
she
constantly
looks
for.
Is
there
a
way
to
bring
on
staff
and
make
that
you
know
a
more
permanent
City
employee?
So
I
will
say
it's
it's
constantly
evolving
evolving,
counselor
World.
P
M
And
then
my
other
question
is
sometimes
I
hear
from
vendors
that
you
know
they're
still
waiting
on
the
payment.
Do
we
have
an
average
time
that
you
know
someone's
getting
paid
from
the
city
of
Boston.
P
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
answer
that
only
because,
literally,
what
happens
is
the
warrant
is
presented
to
us
from
auditing
and
we
printed
out
the
we
print
out
the
payments.
So
I
don't
know
the
that
time
frame
that
it's
in
the
AP
process.
P
I,
think
that
might
be
something
that
you
know
auditing
might
be
able
to
provide.
But
again
it's
more
in
that
AP
process,
where
we're
kind
of
at
the
tail
end
of
that.
M
Got
it
and
then
my
last
question,
do
we
have
I
I,
guess
I'm,
just
curious
to
see
aging
report
for
accounts
receivable
to
see
how
much
of
that
44
I
forgot?
The
dollar
amount
is,
you
know,
180
days
plus
owed.
M
I
M
Perfect
no
further
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Council
Council
illusion
you
have
before.
A
Sorry,
president
Flynn
is
the
first
okay,
apologies.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
to
Maureen,
Celia
and
Karishma
for
being
here,
but,
more
importantly,
for
your
work
and
Leadership
I
have
one
maybe
one
question,
maybe
maybe
two
questions.
Let
me
ask
I,
don't
know
if,
if
this
would
go
tomorrow
in
Australia.
N
But
in
terms
of
elderly
residents
that
own
property,
certainly,
unfortunately,
property
property
taxes
are
high
for
for
for
our
seniors,
but
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
there?
Is
there
a
program
where
we
I
know
we
work
with
elderly
residents
on
any
assistance
they
might
have
on
tax
payments,
property
tax
commands,
but
I'm
I'm
always
concerned
about
elderly
seniors
being
taken
advantage
of
by
unscrupulous
business
people
reverse
mortgages,
real
estate
scams.
N
I,
know
I've
read
about
it
in
the
paper
recently.
We've
had
city
council
hearings
on
it,
but
are
we
do
we
have
a
program
where
we're
educating
our
seniors
about
what
their
rights
are
as
it
relates
to
their
property
and
what
they
can
do
to
protect
themselves
from
people
that
want
to
try
to
help
them,
but
in
reality,
they've
really
taken
and
taking
advantage
of
them.
I
P
I
Write
out
tax
checks
for
them,
and
so
we
do
definitely
reach
out
for
any
concerns.
We
have.
N
Okay,
that's
that's
good
to
know,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
Maureen,
and,
and
thank
you
for
following
up
I
I
know
you're
following
up
with
age,
strong
and
I
know,
this
is
a
concern
for
for
many
seniors,
even
for
not
for
non-seniors,
but
just
I
was
seen
as
being
taken
advantage
of
under
because
of
their
financial
situation.
N
Are
we
in
terms
of
collecting
revenue
from
the
city
Revenue
that
comes
into
the
city
comes
into
your
office?
I
know
you,
you
have
an
exceptional
rate
of
over
99
percent
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
tremendous
is
there
are,
are
businesses
that
do
not
pay
their
property
tax
say
that
point
five
percent
of
0.8
percent,
but
the
the
businesses
that
don't
pay
their
property
tax?
N
Does
the
city
put
them
on
a
list
where
they're
not
eligible
for
City
contracts,
maybe
maybe
in
the
construction
field,
maybe
in
some
other
type
of
Consulting
field?
But
but
before
you
before
you
get
a
contract
from
the
city
you
you
should
be,
maybe
maybe
not
that
you
should
be
required
to
pay
your
property
tax.
I
We
sent
over
letters
to
treasury
to
have
them
pulp
checks
if
they
have
outstanding,
but
that's
that's
it
right
now.
N
I
And
so,
if
they've
worked
for
the
city
and
they
they're
getting
some
kind
of
a
vendor
check,
we
will
send
an
email
to
or
send
a
letter
to
get
that
check,
pulled
and
apply
it
to
taxes.
If
somebody
qualifies
for
an
abatement
or
a
refund
or
whatever,
we
do
pull
those
checks
also,
but
that
would
be
about
all
we
do
right
now.
N
Okay,
thank
you,
Celia,
thank
you,
Maureen
and
thank
you.
Karishma
Madam,
chair,
I,
have
no
further
questions
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
administration
team
for
the
important
work
they're
doing.
Thank
you.
I
A
You
thank
you.
Council,
president
Flynn
councilor
Lucia
before
thank.
Q
You,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
administration
for
being
here.
My
first
question
is:
what
does
it
take,
what
is
considered
a
distressed
property?
How
long
does
it
take
for
a
property
to
be
considered
a
distressed
property.
I
So
we
we
send
out
nine
bills
a
year
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
the
calendar
year
we
place
liens
on
properties
that
are
outstanding.
Once
the
lien
is
placed,
there's
nothing
you
can
do
by
law
for
six
months
and
then
we
pursue
it
further
with
petitions.
Q
I
I
So
really
it's
a
whole
fiscal
year
before
we
would
do
anything.
That
would
be
legal
like
18
months
basically,
but
in
that
same
time
we're
reaching
out
to
people
looking
right,
sending
letters
and
trying
to
get
some.
It's
all
about
notice,
the
one
I
guess
we
send
out
to
people
the
more
they'll
call
up,
and
even
if
they're,
making
partial
payments
they're
doing
something
we
try
to
work
with
them
at
that
time.
So
once
we
get
notice
out
there,
we
continue
that
with
our
Deputy
collectors,.
Q
And
then
what
is
the
gap?
A
gap
between
in
terms
of
of
of
time
or
operationally,
between
placement
of
the
lean
and
that
property
becoming?
You
know
the
property
of
the
city
of
Boston.
I
I
Q
About
how
often,
would
you
say,
or
how,
like
how
many
properties
a
year
expect
like?
Are
we
or
I
guess
foreclosing
on.
I
Q
I
wasn't
able
I
have
a
few
questions:
the
Law
Department,
okay.
Thank
you
and
then
my
other
questions
are
with
respect
to
like
how
often
we're
receiving
the
quests
from
from
individuals
of
property
of
items
or
do
are
we
do
we
actively
pursue
that?
What
does
that
look
like.
Q
So
like
folks
who,
in
their
world
like
gift
property
or
devices
in
the
quest
of
the
city
like
does
that
does
that
happen,
or
are
folks
gifting,
land
or
other
items
to
the
city
of
Boston?
What
does
that
look
like?
Do
we
have
a
program
around
that
I'm
thinking
about
in
the
context
of
work
that
we're
trying
to
do
in
my
office
regarding
Community,
Land
trusts
and
help?
You
know
a
way
of
Helping
Seniors
age
in
place,
but
I'm
I'm
curious
to
know
about.
Q
Is
that
something
that
this
to
DC
is
folks
making
you
know
either
in
their
will
or
making
requests
or
gifts
or
devices
to
the
to
the
city
of
Boston.
P
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
counselor,
so
I
will
tell
you
that
I've
been
in
this
chair
for
two
years
and
I
haven't
seen
any
come
our
way,
but
I
can
certainly
you
know,
follow
up
with
our
trust,
Division
and
see
what
that
process
looks
like,
and
you
know
what
that
you
know,
volume,
etc.
For
your
for
your
request,.
Q
And
then,
and
then
lastly,
just
regarding
the
management
of
of
trust,
wondering
how
often
the
the
you
know
we
receive
or
are,
there
are
public
reports
of
public
accountings
of
the
money
and
the
management
of
those
trusts.
P
Q
Okay,
and
does
the
city
of
Boston
manage.
Q
P
A
A
contractor
and
your
time
is
up,
can
you
wrap
up
your
final
question?
This.
Q
Is
the
last
one
so
that's
out
is
it?
Is
it
for,
in
is
foreign
auditor
who
had
someone
to
do
it
on
a
Consulting
basis,
whereas
prior
it
was,
we
had
someone
in
the
hospitals
doing
the
work.
P
No,
it's
always
been
external.
You
want!
You
want
to
be
audited
externally,
so,
like
you'll
you'll
hear
next
from
the
city
auditor,
who
does
all
their
internal
financial
statements
and
also
has
an
external
auditor
come
in
and
review
make
to
ensure
appropriate
accounting
Etc.
So
that's
what
we're
looking
for
for
the
trusts
as
well.
A
Thank
you
councilman!
A
A
O
You
counseling
Anderson
I,
don't
have
a
prepared
deck
for
this.
I
was
hoping
to
as
we
set
the
tone
in
the
beginning
to
have
a
good
conversation
on
what
gets
done
and
I
appreciate.
My
colleagues
hanging
in
there
with
me
off
three
offices
make
up
most
of
the
level
three
in
the
basement
of
City
Hall.
So
that's
where
all
the
staff
were
talking
about
do
their
work
and
it's
a
very
hard
working
team
across
all
departments.
O
I
would
encourage
the
folks
on
this
call
to
look
at
the
city
Auditor's
website.
That's
where
our
external
financial
statements,
a
house
that
you
could
click
on
at
any
time
and
know
all
the
financial
intricacies
of
the
city.
The
reports
are
very,
very
useful
and
you
can
see
the
history
of
the
reports.
I
think
we
probably
have
five
or
six
years
out
out
there.
I
will
warn
you.
O
The
annual
Financial
comprehensive
financial
report
is
185
pages,
but
it
is
really
useful
and
interesting
information
about
the
city
and
we
have
for
many
years
received
national
awards
for
the
report
and
I
would
like
to
share
on
Maureen.
O
Gasso
didn't
mention
this
in
her
presentation,
but
we
audit
and
treasury
sat
in
with
the
CFO
and
the
mayor
on
recent
rating
presentations
for
the
city,
Bond
offerings
and
the
folks
from
s
p,
complemented
the
city
on
the
annual
report
and
said
it
was
one
of
the
best
that
they
ever
see,
which
was
fantastic
for
me
to
bring
back
to
my
team
because
it
is,
as
you
can
see,
sometimes
it's
hard
to
get
a
good
excitement
and
a
pulse
on
185,
page
Financial
document,
but
they
do
hard
work
and
it's
important
work
for
the
city.
O
I
would
just
quote
from
the
website
what
the
audit
department
does.
We
prepare
the
city's
annual
financial
statements
and
review
and
process
all
Financial
transactions
for
accuracy
completeness
and
compliance.
We
also
Implement
Financial
controls
over
Department
spending
and
provide
technical
assistance
to
City
departments
and
agencies.
O
I
would
say,
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
on
the
call
have
had
an
accounting
class.
That
would
be
the
group
that
would
have
an
awareness
of
what
we
do,
but
our
work
similar
to
collecting
and
treasury
has
daily
weekly
monthly
and
quarterly
and
annual
responsibilities,
and
we
have
people
who
pay
attention
to
that
vigilantly
on
those
Cycles.
O
It's
important
work
and
we
make
sure
I
would
say
it's
an
impressive
culture
of
Public
Service
to
make
sure
the
city's
citizens
money
is
taken
care
of
on
the
way
in
and
on
the
way
out,
I've
only
been
with
the
city
just
now,
almost
four
years,
my
career
mostly
was
in
the
Boston
area
at
colleges
and
universities,
but
I
will
tell
you.
O
It
really
prepared
me
for
this
job,
which
very
similar
work
but
bigger
and
very
transparent,
and
it's
been
very
interesting
and
exciting
to
do
I'm
not
sure
how
much
more
I
can
share
I
think
we
might
I'd
like
to
leave
more
type
of
questions,
so
I
can
kind
of
fill
in
the
blanks,
depending
on
where
people's
reference
comes
from.
I
would
gently
say
that
our
financial
presentation
will
be
very
uninteresting
because,
except
for
head
count,
there's
not
much
going
on
in
audit.
O
We
have
some
costs
for
our
systems
and
we
bring
in
actuaries
to
work
with
us
for
the
valuations
for
the
retirement
and
health
benefits,
but
other
than
that,
it's
it's
head
count
and
a
couple
of
stamps.
That's
it
so.
I'll
conclude
at
that
point.
Thank.
A
You
so
much
Miss,
Joyce
I
think
it's
really
really
fascinating.
Kidding.
A
Your
work
is
extremely
important
and
I
decided
to
bring
you
this
year,
specifically
more
for
educational
purposes,
for
the
public
and
just
for
full
transparency.
A
lot
of
folks
complain
about
Treasury
and
auditing,
and
they
say
they
don't
they
don't
complain
of
your
service.
They
just
don't
understand
fully
what
you
do
and
for
transparency
and
just
for
clarity.
A
K
This
is
just
the
department
Mission
and
then
what
Finance
housed
in
where
you
you
wrote,
read
this
out.
So
thank
you
and
then
this
is
the
org
chart
that
is
available
in
the
city
budget
and
then
these
are
just
some
programs
that
in
the
budget
itself
and
also
in
the
Raw
data,
just
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
line
item
attached
to
it.
K
This
is
the
fy24
automatic
auditing
recommended
by
program
and
essentially
it's
broken
down,
as
it
was
in
the
previous
slides
on
the
left,
you're
going
to
see
that
pie
chart
on
the
right
you're
going
to
see
that
Legend
with
the
specific
program
followed
by
the
percentage
followed
by
the
total
amount.
So,
for
example,
grants
monitoring
is
that
9.4
and
348
953.59.
K
Here,
you're
going
to
see
auditing
Department
program
spending
over
time
from
fiscal
year,
21
actual
in
thousands
to
fiscal
year,
24
recommended
in
thousands
it's
in
thousands
again
just
to
ease
people
in
terms
of
being
able
to
read
these
numbers.
So,
as
you
can
see,
auditing
Administration
has
increased
or
has
sorry
decreased
by
thirty
thousand
dollars.
From
fiscal
year.
23
to
fiscal
year,
24.
accounting
has
increased
by
153
000
from
fy23
to
fy24.
Central
Payroll
has
increased
by
141
000
grants.
Monitoring
has
increased
by
142
000
and
accounts
payable,
has
increased
by
twelve
thousand
dollars.
K
This
is
the
f-124
auditing
Department
amount
requested
by
program.
So
this
is
oh
sorry,
not
my
program.
I
requested
by
line
item.
Apologies
for
that.
So
this
is
a
breakdown
kind
of
of
personnel,
contractual
Services,
current
charges
and
that
should
be
equipment
apologies.
So
this
is
going
to
look
at
93.7
for
personnel
at
3.5
million
dollars,
ish
4.8
for
contractual
services
at
177,
000
1.2
for
rent
charges
at
forty
four
thousand
dollars
and
point
three
percent
for
equipment
at
eleven
thousand
dollars.
K
This
is
a
program
breakdown
over
time.
So
this
is
the
auditing
Administration
by
expense
type
overtime.
Again,
as
we
saw
previously,
what
we're
going
to
see
is
a
programmatic
level
breakdown
over
time,
so
it's
gonna
be
the
five
programs
that
were
listed
in
the
Raw
data.
So
this
is
auditing
Administration.
As
you
can
see
here
we
have
a
twenty
one
thousand
dollar.
Oh
sorry,
we
have
a
twenty
one:
thousand
dollar
increase
in
Personnel
spending,
a
twelve
thousand
dollar
decrease
in
contractual
services.
K
Actually,
sorry,
it's
not
twelve
thousand
dollars.
We
have
a
decrease
in
contractual
services
and
we
have
essentially
a
steady
on
supplies,
materials
and
a
one
thousand
dollar
decrease
in
print
charts
and
obligations.
Apologies
again,
our
contractual
service,
the
contractual
Services,
have
decreased
by
approximately
thirty
thousand
dollars.
K
This
is
accounting
by
expense
type
over
time.
So
this
is
just
another
program
here.
This
is
break
broken
down
again
at
the
year
level,
at
fiscal
year
spending
levels
so
accounting
by
expense
over
time
at
personnel
has
increased
by
about
75
000.
Current
contractual
Services
have
increased
by
approximately
seventy
four
thousand
dollars,
and
current
charges
have
increased
by
approximately
five
thousand
dollars.
Supplies
and
materials
have
stayed
steady
on.
Of
course,
current
charges
and
obligations
have
increased,
but
they
had
decreased.
K
They
had
increased
a
lot
more
from
fiscal
year,
22
to
fiscal
year
23,
and
that's
something
to
note
there,
especially
with
contractual
Services.
We
see
an
optic
at
approximately
seventy
four
thousand
dollars
for
accounting,
but
in
fiscal
year
22
it
was
at
209
000.
So
there
was
a
pretty
big
decrease
from
22
to
23,
for
contractual
services
is
Grants
monitoring
by
expense
type
over
time,
expense
type
overtime.
Apologies
for
that,
so,
as
you
can
see
here,
personnel
has
increased
by
142
000
and
current
contractual
Services
have
increased
by
one
thousand
dollars.
K
The
Personnel
increase
has
increased
the
level
that
it
was
in
fiscal
year
2022.
So
that's
just
something
to
note
there
as
well.
K
This
is
Accounts
Payable
by
expense
type.
Over
time
we
can
see
a
nine
thousand
dollar
increase
in
Personnel
Services,
a
three
thousand
dollar
increase
in
contractual
services
and
study
on
throughout
the
rest
of
our
it's
a
study
on
throughout
the
rest
of
the
specific
line
items.
K
This
is
Central
Payroll
by
expensive
overtime.
As
you
can
see,
personal
Personnel
Services
have
increased
by
approximately
a
hundred
and
forty
one
thousand
dollars
and
contractual
Services
supplies
and
materials.
Current
charges
and
obligations
and
Equipment
have
stayed
relatively
steady
on
and
this
is
getting
deeper
into
the
light
items
as
we
saw
previously.
This
is
going
to
be
breaking
down
by
departmental
history
and
comparing
it
to
external
funds
by
light
item.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
permanent
employees,
approximately
120
000,
goes
towards
permanent
employees
from
external
funds
and
3.4
dollars
from
the
operating
budget.
K
There's
ten
thousand
five
hundred
sixty
dollars
from
external
funds
that
goes
towards
overtime
and
then
the
rest
of
them
are
essentially
zeroed
out.
This
is
also
only
for
fiscal
year
24..
This
is
not
you
know
a
year
on
year,
review
of
these
operating
budget
versus
external
funds.
This
is
auditing
contractual
Services
spending.
By
operating
the
reason
external
funds
are
not
going
to
be
included
in
the
following.
Slides
is
because
there
was
just
no
external
funds
being
used
by
the
department.
K
So
that's
why
you
will
only
see
it
in
terms
of
contractual
Services,
as
you
can
see
here
for
communications,
it's
nine
thousand
dollars,
repairs
and
services
equipment,
six
thousand
five
hundred
seventy
dollars,
transportation
of
persons,
persons,
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
712.,
so
thirty
thousand
seven
hundred
twelve
dollars
and
contracted
Services,
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
and
835.
130
000.
Sorry,
sorry!
K
K
This
is
auditing
current
charges
and
obligations.
We
have
forty
four
thousand
dollars
in
other
current
charges
and
that
is
it
for
the
auditing
Department.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
O
So
I'm
gonna
have
to
follow
up
with
you
counselor,
because
I
want
to
see
the
numbers
on
a
piece
of
paper
to
be
able
to
analyze
it,
and
you
know,
there's
a
bunch
of
things
that
have
been
going
on
in
that
area,
especially
with
big
federal
funds
coming
through
so
I
think
it's
more
the
comparison
of
the
two
years.
What
how
did
it
look
and
how
did
it
change?
So
let
me
please
follow
up
with
that.
Okay,.
A
No
problem
I
can
submit
in
writing.
A
Problem
my
question,
my
the
rest
of
my
questions
are
just
like
those
in
terms
of
the
increases
and
decreases
and
things
I
didn't
didn't.
Really
that
stood
out
for
me
and
I
did
not
really
understand
in
terms
of
increase
or
decreases,
and
the
clothing
allowance.
I
didn't
understand
that
either.
O
Usually,
that's
a
union
requirement,
so
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
see
what's
in
there,
given
the
Union
employees
that
are
in
there.
That
was
new
to
me
when
I
came
to
the
city,
but
let
me
go
and
look
at
that.
You.
A
Know
that
that
makes
sense.
Thank
you
so
much
in
the
order
of
arrival.
A
No
more
Murphy
Braden
Clarity
Coletta
Mejia
Castle
Mejia.
You
have
before.
H
Still
Standing,
y'all,
okay,
so
I
just
have
a
few
questions
just
overall
with
the
and
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
all
are
the
right
department-
and
this
might
be
more
for
assessment,
because
you
guys
do
auditing
but
I'm
gonna.
Ask
you
here:
anyways,
just
in
case
you
might
be
able
to
point
me
in
the
right
direction.
H
H
O
H
I
could
send
you
an
invoice
because
these
small
businesses,
many
of
them,
don't
even
speak
English,
are
sending
me
their
bills
and
like
what
is
this
and
I'm
like
I'ma,
find
out
for
y'all
and
they're
asking
me:
how
do
you,
how
does
the
city
determine
what
the
value
is
of
their
particular
equipment?
So,
if
you
don't
know
what,
where
this
is
coming
from,
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
send
you
an
email
with
some
of
the
great
notices
that
people
have
received.
H
Some
of
them
have
paid
just
because
they
many
of
which,
especially
when
you're
dealing
with
immigrant
populations
when
they
see
anything
that
looks
official,
they
automatically
are
paid,
but
no
problems,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
these
people
understand
how
you
all
are:
assessing
and
auditing
their
equipment
so
that
it's
making
sure
that
it's
Equitable
and
that
people
understand
the
the
depreciation
value
of
it
and
all
that
good
stuff.
So
I
just
yeah,
that's
the.
I
That's
that
would
be
the
assessor's
office
Council.
Okay,
those
are
personal
property
tax
bills,
so
they
would
have
to
reach
out
to
the
assessor's
office.
O
O
We
do
all
the
transactions
related
to
that
and
all
the
accounting
related
to
that
to
make
sure
things
that
come
in
are
accounted
for
properly
and
things
that
are
going
out.
The
door
are
accounted
for
and
authorized
properly.
No,
a
virtual.
The
only
auditing
we
really
do
is
when
we
are
audited
by
our
external
CPA
firm
got.
H
I
will
so
now
that
you
helped
me
have
a
better
understanding.
I
do
have
a
follow-up
question
in
regards
to,
and
then
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
falls
under
your
department
of
this
somewhere
else,
but
I
do
come
across
folks
who
are
undocumented
and
have
had
an
issue
with
like
was
a
very
specific
example
with
the
BPS
transportation
department,
where
they're
undocumented.
H
So
if
it's,
if
they
are
getting
reimbursed
because
of
the
amount
of
the
reimbursement
and
because
they
don't
have
a
Social
Security
number
or
a
tax
ID
or
whatever
it
is
they're
unable
to
receive
payment
and
I'm
just
curious
about,
is
that
something
that
falls
under
your
department?
That's
just
one
example:
it's
not
just
within
BP.
It
happens
in
different
spaces
and
places.
So
can
you
share
with
us
kind
of
like
how
you
all
are
reconciling
with
that?
So.
O
What
I
would
say?
That's
an
example
I'm
very
familiar
with,
so
you
know
any
Department
that
has
that
type
of
situation
come
about.
We
work
with
the
Department
to
find
a
reasonable
resolution
is.
Does
that
sound
helpful
enough?
We
want
to
make
sure,
for
example,
with
the
the
transportation
there
were.
Parents
do
reimbursements
for
their
children
that
needed
special
transportation
and
they
had
will
say
no
bank
accounts
or
ways
to
get
financial
financially
reimbursed.
O
So
we
kind
of
worked
with
the
BPS
to
advise
and
counsel
them
and
as
I
understood
it,
they
were
looking
into
very
proactive
ways
to
make
sure
that
the
folks
were
getting
the
funds
due
to
them.
H
Yeah
I
I
think
that
was
a
a
significant
hardship
for
a
lot
of
families
and
so
I'm
glad
that
you
all
have
found
us
yeah.
O
H
Is
my
last
question-
and
this
is
my
be
in
the
transportation
and
Parking
Department,
but
since
you
all
are
overseeing
the
payments
of
such
things
and
how
get
they
get?
You
know:
processed
I've
come
across
folks
who
work
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
live
in
the
city
of
Boston
and
are
providing
Direct
Services
to
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
residents
and
they
have
occurred
parking
tickets
and
in
terms
of
assessing
processing.
H
O
H
Right
Maureen,
thank
you
to
Maureen
and
Cecilia.
Thank
you
appreciate.
Y'all
y'all
know
for
the
questions
that
chair.
Thank
you
again.
Thank.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
Maureen
for
the
presentation.
I
just
have
and
I
think
it
was
answered
in
part,
but
just
if
you
could
just
talk
a
bit
more
about
the
external
auditing
that
happens
and
how
you
work
with
the
excellent
in
in
what
circumstances
use
the
external
auditor.
O
Now,
as
a
part
of
that
audit,
the
audit
of
the
city
of
Boston
is
a
very
big
project
and
the
financial
audit
takes
approximately
nine
months
to
accomplish
it's
a
it's
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
that
basically
is
usually
always
going
on.
At
the
same
time,
we
have
another
audit,
that's
called
the
single
audit.
You
can
see
that
on
our
website,
and
that
is
an
audit
of
all
federal
funds
at
the
city
needs
to
be
audited
and
we're
required
to
do
that
annually
by
the
federal
government.
So
that's.
O
Okay,
yes,
we
work
with
them
to
produce
the
financial
information
once
they
see
what
the
financial
information
is,
they
do
statistical,
stampling
or
other
testing
for
the
areas
depending
on
how
they
want
to
best
audit
it.
So,
as
you
can
imagine,
there
is
a
lot
of
payroll
testing
done
all
over
the
city
and
all
over
our
programs
to
make
sure
the
way
we
collect
the
information
is
reliable.
O
Q
Thank
you,
Maureen
I,
appreciate
that
I
and
I
want
to
congratulate
you
on
the
recognition
from
SMP
about
I.
Think
that's
a
really
it's
a
really
big
deal.
It
shows
the
level
of
integrity
and
dedication
work
ethic
of
our
workers.
So
that's
a
it's
a
neat
shout
out.
Thank
you,
but
just
in
terms
of
so
there's
you
know
we
get
the
budget
from
the
budget
office
and
that
contains
a
lot
of
information.
The
reports
of
the
acfr
and
the
independent
Auditors
report.
They
can
contain
additional
information.
O
Yeah
I
mean
even
just
the
narratives,
and
some
of
the
comparisons
are
really
useful
and
I
will
tell
you
before
when
before
I
had
this
offer,
the
job
I
got
here,
I
looked
into
the
city's
finances.
The
first
thing
that
hit
me
boom
was
AAA.
Bond
rating,
like
these
folks
know
what
they're
doing
I
mean.
The
city
has
a
very
strong
financial
team
and
the
financial
statement
in
the
audits
all
prove
that
so
counselor
tell
me
please
how
to
pronounce
your
last
name
so
I,
don't.
O
Jenkins
luigien,
thank
you.
The
budget
is
proactive,
they'll
provide
you
with
some
historical
reference
and
then
they'll
say
what
they're
anticipating
for
the
next
year
in
relationship
to
how
expensive
have
gone
in
the
past.
When
you
look
at
the
financial
statement,
it's
all
history
and
it's
all
factual,
it's
at
a
point
in
time.
This
is
what
the
city
looks
like
as
far
as
what
our
assets
are
worth:
buildings
and
cash
in
the
bag
and
how
much
money
we
owe
in
bonds
and
to
others.
O
That's
a
point
in
time,
and
then
the
other
story
is
told
is
this
is
how
much
money
came
through
for
revenue
for
the
whole
year,
and
this
is
how
we
spent
that
Revenue
in
the
whole
year
and
we
in
the
audited
financial
statements
have
schedules
that
also
tell
the
story
of
how
we
did
compared
to
budget.
How
good
were
we
compared
to
budget
okay.
Q
All
right,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
I
as
I
said,
I
read
the
bond
statements
but
I'm
going
to
take
a
deeper
dive
into
some
of
the
information
that
is
acfr,
so
I
appreciate
you
at.
B
Q
Time,
yeah
I
know
I,
know
and
I
appreciate
all
the
all
the
work
that
we
do
to
to
get
better
play.
Bond
rating,
you
know,
I,
do
think
that
there's
more
that
we
can
be
doing
once
we
get
this
really
great
rating.
You
get
a
good
credit
score.
What
are
you
doing
with
that?
And
so
you
know
I
think
I
want
us
to
see
us
be
a
little
less
conservative
when
it
comes
to
meeting
the
demands
of
the
moment.
Q
I'm
excited
that
we're
actually
doing
that
this
year,
because
there
was
a
27
increase
in
Bond
issuances.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
this
opportunity
to
address
my
questions
to
Administration.
A
All
right,
thank
you
constellation.
Thank
you
Maureen
and
Maureen
Celia.
For
a
nice
conversation,
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you
do
really
really
underestimated.
You
guys
are
absolutely
amazing.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
education
today
and
whatever
information
you
have,
whether
it's
a
physical
literature
that
you
can
send
to
my
office.
We
would
love
to
pick
some
up
to
help
the
public
with
understanding
how
to
better
navigate
your
services.
There
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation
and
I
I
think
that's
pretty
much.
It
I'll
leave
the
floor
open.
If
you
have
any
final
comments.
O
Thank
you
for
having
us
here
today,
counselor
yep,
thank
you
and
I.
Just
I
want
to
just
emphasize
this
with
a
lot
of
people
in
our
three
areas
that
really
make
this
happen.
I
felt
uncomfortable
coming
by
myself,
because
I
always
like
to
bring
my
team
and
each
of
the
other.
Ladies
here
have
a
great
team,
also
fantastic.
A
Folks,
in
the
background,
but
that's
a
separate
conversation
there.
O
A
Well,
you're
lucky
to
have
them.
Thank
you
and
we're
lucky
to
have
you
all.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Thank.