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From YouTube: Ways & Means on August 13, 2020
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Docket #0857 - Hearing regarding an appropriation for roof and boiler replacement projects at various schools, for which the City may be eligible for a grant from the Massachusetts School Building Authority
C
B
E
D
All
right,
let
me
just
see
who
we've
got
so,
I
think
so.
Nate,
brian
and
carlton.
That's
the
full
team
from
the
administration
side
and
then
great
we've
got
counselor
flynn
and
I
think
we're
I
think,
we're
gonna
we
might
as
well
get
going
you
guys
sent
over
a
presentation.
Is
that
right,
brian,
I
think
you're
you're,
muted,
yes,.
A
E
B
D
Excellent,
all
right
with
that,
I'm
calling
this
meeting
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
kenzi
bach,
I'm
the
district,
8
city,
councilor
and
also
the
chair
of
the
city
council's
committee
on
ways
and
means
joined
here
today
by
my
colleague,
counselor
ed
flynn,
from
district
two.
This
public
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
dash
council
dash
tv.
D
It
will
be
rebroadcast
on
comcast
channel
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
verizon
channel
1964.,
we'll
be
taking
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
this
hearing.
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you
wish
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D
So
today's
hearing
is
on
docket0857,
which
is
message
and
order
approving
an
appropriation
of
seven
million.
Fifty
thousand
six
hundred
seven
dollars
for
the
purpose
of
paying
for
the
costs
associated
with
the
roof
and
boiler
replacement
projects
at
the
following
schools:
mary
lyons
school,
the
mckinley
school
and
the
curly
k-8,
for
which
the
city
of
boston
may
be
eligible
for
a
grant
from
the
massachusetts
school
building
authority,
set
amount
to
be
expended
under
the
direction
of
the
public
facilities
department
on
behalf
of
boston,
public
schools.
E
Thank
you,
chairman
bach,
thank
you
city
council,
for
having
us
this
afternoon
to
come
and
talk
in
support
of
this
appropriation
for
the
2019
msba
accelerated
repair
program
in
a
minute
you're,
going
to
hear
from
brian
mclaughlin
from
our
capital
planning
team
as
we're
joined
with
carlton
jones
from
the
public
facilities
department.
Before
I
hand
it
over
to
them.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
over
the
last
five
years,
the
city
has
taken
advantage
of
the
msba
accelerated
repair
program
at
a
much
more
frequent
pace
than
we
had
seen.
E
In
fact,
we've
gotten
more
from
the
msba
in
the
last
five
years
than
in
the
10
years.
Prior
to
that-
and
I
think
that's
really
a
tribute
to
the
hard
work
of
carlton.
The
entire
public
facilities
department
and
brian
mclaughlin,
of
course,
has
been
a
great
advocate
and
partner
for
us
when
he
was
at
pfd
and
now
as
part
of
our
team
in
bps.
E
So
I
just
wanted
to
start
with
a
little
bit
of
context
and
just
a
bit
of
thanks
to
both
our
partners
at
pfd
and
to
our
internal
team
for
really
bringing
in
these
resources
to
the
boston
public
schools
and
make
it
possible
for
us
to
upgrade
our
facilities
through
this
program.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
brian
mclaughlin.
Who'll
walk
you
through
the
request
for
this
appropriation.
A
D
A
A
All
right,
thank
you,
counselors.
Thank
you,
nate
for
the
introduction
carlton.
Thank
you
for
being
part
of
this
team
with
pfd
and
delivering
these
important
projects
throughout
the
district.
Just
as
quick
background,
the
massachusetts
authority
is
the
state
authority
that
oversees
funding
of
public
school
capital
projects
in
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts.
A
A
A
Currently,
examples
of
the
accelerator
repair
program
that
we
have
ongoing
with
the
msb
that
are
currently
in
construction
are
the
window
replacements
at
the
otis
in
the
o'brien,
which
are
wrapping
up
construction,
and
we
have
four
boilers
at
the
hernandez.
The
linden
josiah
queens
elementary
school
in
the
mckay
going
on
this
summer.
The
logic
core
projects
are
the
complete
dearborn
and.
A
The
second
slide
provides
an
overview
of
the
accelerated
repair,
collaborative
collaborative
efforts
with
the
msba
and
the
city
of
boston,
which
nate
touched
upon
in
his
opening
over
the
past
five
years.
Mayor
walsh
has
made
it
a
priority,
with
the
assistance
of
the
city
council
to
leverage
state
funds
for
repairs
to
school
buildings,
allowing
the
city
to
maximize
the
capital
of
investments
throughout
the
district.
Since
2015,
the
city
has
had
27
repair
projects
approved
through
the
msba.
A
A
A
These
projects
started
the
mla
process
back
in
february
of
2019
with
the
submission
of
the
statement
of
interest.
This
is
what
the
msba
refers
to
as
their
application,
based
on
application
review
and
the
site
business
with
rules.
The
msba
invited
these
three
schools
into
the
msba
repair
program
back
in
june
of
2019.
A
A
This
final
slide
just
provides
an
overview
of
those
27
projects
that
a
27
accelerator
repair
projects
that
the
city
and
the
msb
have
collaborated
on
in
closing
bps
in
this
league
of
boston
would
like
to
request
the
city
of
council
appropriate
seven
million.
Fifty
thousand
six
hundred
seven
dollars
to
support
the
construction
costs
associated
with
moving
forward
msba
2019
accelerator
repair
projects.
D
Great,
thank
you
so
much,
and
I
want
to
note
that
we've
also
been
joined
by
two
more
of
my
colleagues,
so
counselor
liz
braden
from
district
nine
and
counselor
anissa
sabi
george
at
large,
have
also
both
joined
yeah.
So
I
think
we
should
probably
jump
into
some
questions
I'll
ask
a
few
and
then
pass
it
to
colleagues.
D
D
I
my
understanding
is
that
that's
a
different
round
right
that
this
is
the
this
is
the
prior
round
that
we're
talking
about,
but
but
I'm
curious,
and
I
think
we
talked
in
february
a
little
bit
about
how
we
the
district,
select
those,
but
then
I'm
curious
about
how
the
msba
sort
of
narrows
in
on
which
projects
it's
going
to
fund.
If
you
could
speak
to
that.
A
Sure,
yes,
these
were
submitted
in
2019
the
most
recent
they
open
up
their
statement
of
interest
process
yearly,
so
the
11
schools
that
were
submitted
in
2020
are
still
undergoing
the
msba
and
I
believe
their
review
process
is
a
little
has
been
impacted
by
everything
else.
That's
going
on
so
hopefully
in
the
future,
we'll
near
future,
we'll
hear
some
feedback
on
those
11
schools,
so
these
were
submitted
in
february
of
2019.
A
At
that
time,
six
statements
of
interest
were
submitted
these
three.
In
addition,
they
also,
we
also
submitted
the
dudley
street
neighborhood
charter
school,
the
josiah
quincy
elementary
school
and
english
high
school
projects.
Those
were
three
window
projects
and
feedback
from
the
msba
relative
to
the
2019
review
of
soi
submissions
from
the
commonwealth.
A
First,
for
yes
and
I-
and
I
think
that's
generally
because
the
window
projects
tend
to
be
more
expensive
and
msba
only
has
a
a
certain
amount
of
money
to
be
distributed
throughout
the
commonwealth.
My
understanding
this
year
is
that
they
for
2020
they
received
up
to
90
requests
throughout
the
commonwealth,
11
of
which
were
from
the
city
of
boston
and
again.
A
D
And
giving
us
a
better
chance
of
being
successful,
are
we
thinking
at
all?
I
mean.
Obviously,
we
submitted
a
slate
in
february,
so
it's
probably
you
know
a
while
until
we
submit
another
slate,
but
I
mean
in
light
of
obviously
current
events
have
really
put
a
spotlight
on
window
issues,
and
I
just
wonder
if
we're
thinking
at
all
internally
about
putting
more
window
projects
forward
in
the
future,
whether
the
msba
might
be
inclined
to
do
more
of
that
work.
A
A
D
D
D
What
at
what
round
would
that
with
the
with
those
economic
effects
actually
come
to
bear
like?
Are
these
projects
sort
of
safely
funded
and
we
have
to
worry
about
what
happens
in
the
ones
that
we
sent
in
with
sois
in
february,
or
are
these
projects
potentially
at
risk?
If
that
pool
really
drives
up
like
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
where
our,
where
our
financial
risk
is
here.
A
B
Thank
you,
councillor
bark.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
administration
team
that
is
here
today:
public
facilities,
public
schools,
boss,
public
schools,
the
mayor's
office.
I
don't
know
if
I'm
forgetting
anybody,
but
thank
you
for
for
your
leadership
again.
Thank
you,
council
bark.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
central
staff
as
well
for
for
their
work.
B
B
B
A
Sure
leading
up
to
the
submission
of
the
statement
of
interest,
bps
facilities
team
conducted
a
review
of
all
all
school
buildings
to
see
which
schools
would
be
appropriate
for
this
program
and
at
that
time
the
mckinley
school
over
at
warren
ave
was
one
that
identified
to
have
significant
issues
with
their
roof,
including
leaks,
multiple
leaks
throughout
the
building
which
presented
with
kind
of
unsightly
stains
in
the
ceiling,
tiles.
The
need
for
barrels
throughout
the
building
to
capture
some
of
the
water
that
was
infiltrating
penetrating
the
roof.
A
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
brian,
and
I
know
this
funding
will
will
will
really
help
the
students
and
in
the
teachers
and
and
conduct
a
a
better
environment
for
learning
for
teaching.
So
we
we
appreciate
I'm
glad
to
support
this
zero.
Eight,
five,
zero,
eight,
five,
seven
docket
and
the
other
schools
that
also
desperately
need
some
assistance.
B
A
Yeah
and
and
the
the
first
step
in
their
process
is
their
application
process,
which
they
call
the
statement
of
interest
so
usually
soon
after
the
first
year,
they
open
that
process
up
and
and
there's
two
submissions
for
their
application
process,
accelerator
repair
program,
which
are
usually
due
in
in
february
and
then
for
larger
projects.
They
give
districts
a
little
extra
time
to
put
the
application
together,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
required
information.
That
districts
must
include
in
this
application.
A
It's
usually
close
to
a
20-page
document
which
speaks
to
overall
district
questions,
as
well
as
specific
to
a
school
that
is
submitted
through
the
sois,
so
february
and
april
is
usually
when
they
receive
those
applications.
All
those
statements
of
interest
also
require
a
vote
of
the
school
committee
and
city
council.
So
nothing
goes
forward
to
the
msba
from
the
city
of
boston.
That
is
not
also
have
a
vote
from
the
the
council
and
the
school
committee.
B
D
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn.
I
also
note
that
we've
been
joined
by
councillor
michael
flaherty
at
large
and
councillor
julia
mejia,
also
at
large,
and
I
neglected
to
say
earlier,
I'm
just
going
to
quickly
read
into
the
record.
I
have
a
quick
letter
from
the
council
president
kim
janey,
who
writes
dear
chairwoman
bach.
I
regretfully
cannot
attend
today's
hearing
on
docket0857
as
we
continue
to
discuss
the
district's
plan
to
reopen
ensuring
that
our
school
buildings
are
clean,
orderly
and
safe
is
vital
in
establishing
healthy
learning
environments
for
our
bps
students.
D
I
look
forward
to
reviewing
today's
hearing,
recording
and
committee
report
and
working
with
the
committee
on
recommended
next
steps.
Thank
you
sincerely.
Counselor
janie,
so
just
wanted
to
register
that
she
was
unfortunately
unable
to
join
us
and
now
I'll
be
moving
to
counselor
liz
braden
from
district
9.
councillor
braden.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
to
the
presentation.
It's
one
of
this.
One
of
the
projects
in
the
list
is
the
mary
lyon,
which
is
in
our
district
here
in
austin
brighton.
One
question
I
had
was
the
the
sum
of
seven
over
seven
million.
How
do
you,
how
do
you
spec
or
scope
the
the
cost
of
do
you
have
to
make
an
an
estimate
of
the
cost
of
the
project
when
you're
submit
submitting
it,
or
do
you
get
bids?
A
F
A
A
That
estimate
is
submitted
to
the
msba
for
review
and
their
project
managers
at
the
msba
only
move
forward
projects
if
they
feel
comfortable
with
the
scope
of
work,
the
schedule
and
the
cost
associated
with
those
with,
in
this
case,
three
projects
based
upon
the
consultants
upfront
design
that
schematic
design
sets
the
estimate
which
goes
before
the
msba
board.
They
supported
that
seven,
roughly
just
over
seven
million
dollars
the
board
supported
that
through
the
vote
in
june.
Now.
F
And
I'm
wondering
in
terms
of
this,
the
design
process,
if
especially
in
relation
to
the
the
heating
system
for
the
mary
lion,
are
we
are
we
in
this
present
time
when
we're
so
concerned
about
energy
efficiency,
etc?
Are
we
are
we
looking
for
really
high
high
efficiency,
condensing
boilers,
or
I
don't
even
know
I?
I
know
that
from
a
domestic
point
of
view
of
working
on
my
own
heating
system,
but
I
don't
know
how
you
scale
it
up
for
a
a
building
the
size
of
a
school
like
the
mary
lyon.
A
Yeah
all
that
the
consultant
team
that
we've
had
netco
and
raymond
design
really
dive
into
that,
and
this
the
the
program
really
focuses
on
providing
energy,
efficient,
cost
saving
upgrades
to
these
buildings.
So
the
the
systems
that
replace
the
existing
boilers
will
be
highly
efficient
and
would
likely
return
some
savings
to
the
city
based
upon
the
operations
of
this
system.
F
A
Yeah,
it
will
be
publicly
bid
through
the
city
of
boston,
public
facilities,
department,
supporting
the
appropriation
will
allow
the
architect
and
design
team
to
go
into
design
development
and
really
like
select
what
type
of
boiler
systems
or
roofing
materials
that
will
be
used
in
this
project
and
then
likely
in
the
fall
or
winter.
This
project
will
be
publicly
bid
through
the
public
philly
department.
F
G
Thank
you,
chairbox.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
being
here
today.
I
did
step
away
for
a
minute
and
I
hope
that
this
wasn't
covered,
but
when
we
make
these
school
building
with
our
msba
investments
in
our
school
buildings,
what
was
restrictions
does
that
place
on
that
school
property,
there's
an
understanding
that
when
we
use
this
funds
that
building
needs
to
be
remain
a
school
for
public
education
going
forward
or
for
a
period
of
time
anyway,.
A
Yes,
that's
correct
counselor,
so
if
there
is
a
investment
made
by
the
msba
to
a
particular
building,
if
that
investment
is
altered
in
any
way,
they
would
look
to
for
some
repayment
of
of
a
certain
amount
of
funds
based
upon
how
long
that
asset
has
been
in
the
inventory.
So
if
we're
replacing
a
roof
at
whatever
school
and
then
in
10
years
down
the
line
that
school
is
that
the
roof
on
that
school
is
somehow
impacted
by
another
construction
project.
They
may
look
to
recapture
some
money.
G
G
G
G
E
That
is
something
that
we've-
oh
sorry,
brian,
I
just
as
we
go
through
the
the
bill,
bps
sort
of
annual
process,
one
of
the
things
we
did
in
the
last
update,
which
is
now
a
couple
18
months
or
so
ago.
We
did
include
a
list
of
projects
by
neighborhood
and
by
school.
I
think
it's
it's!
It's
probably
something
that
we
want
to
update
on
an
annual
basis,
so
you
can
see
the
budgeted
amount,
how
much
we'd
spent
on
it?
E
How
much
what
the
pr
you
know,
sort
of
progress
of
that
project
is,
we
know,
what's
completed
versus
in
the
queue
and
so
people
that
that'll
bring
a
lot
of
transparency
to
our
capital
projects.
That,
I
think,
is
necessary.
So
we'll
we'll
aim
to
do
that
when
we
come
back
to
you
with
our
capital
plan
in
the
spring.
G
A
Yeah
they
with
the
accelerator
repair
program
they
kind
of
named
accelerates
because
they
wanted.
They
ideally
want
them
to
be
done
between
12
and
24
months,
from
application
to
construction
completion.
The
we
haven't
seen
any
delays
of
projects
that
have
moved
forward
with
the
msba.
The
initial
round
of
projects
that
were
submitted
to
the
msb
in
2015
and
constructed
in
2017
were
seven
were
seven
window
projects.
A
G
That's
great,
and
you
know,
because
windows
in
particular
have
been
central
to
a
lot
of
the
conversations
around
reopening
of
schools
of
those
3
500
windows.
For
example.
Do
we
have
the
capacity
to
if
any
of
those
windows,
because
2015,
if
they're
installed
by
2017
those
windows
in
particular,
should
be
in?
You
know,
stellar
functioning,
you
know
they
should
be
functioning
and
functioning
well,
and
I
get
that
a
lot
of
our
windows
and
you
know
our
school
facilities
do
have
a
lot
of
wear
and
tear.
G
A
Yet
part
of
the
msba
process
includes
a
commissioning
agent
that
is
paid
for
by
the
msba
so
prior
to
signing
off
on
the
completion
of
construction.
The
msba
brings
in
a
third
party
to
make
sure
that
the
building
systems
that
are
replaced,
whether
it's
a
boiler,
roof
or
window,
are
performing
to
the
specifications
as
designed.
G
And
do
we
ever
audit
that,
or
does
the
msba
ever
audit
that,
because
some
of
those
systems,
when
they're
put
in
place
over
time,
those
systems
also
wear
out
and
we
become
a
little
sort
of
relaxed
or
lackadaisical
in
our
evaluation
of
of
these
things?
And
now
windows
are
so
important,
so
a
window
that
was
maybe
half
creaky
now
is
not
opening
or
is
opening
and
then
slamming
shut,
which
was
the
case
of
the
windows
in
my
classroom.
G
A
Sure
and
the
post
cut
construction
activities
with
the
msba
is
such
that
the
architect
and
opm
are
usually
on
the
project
for
months
after
construction
is
completed
relative
to
submitting
paperwork
so
they're
on
board
to
work
with
the
city
of
boston
to
address
any
operating
operation.
Issues
that
may
come
up
after
school
is
open
and
in
the
windows
are
a
boiler
or
roof
are
online
great.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
afternoon
to
brian
nathan
and
carlton
and
previous
speaker.
Counselor
savvy
jojo's
was
right
on
point,
made
a
great
point
about
getting
a
list
of
of
sort
of
the
projects
and
the
completion
dates
or
whatever.
So
I'd
obviously
like
to
see
a
list
of
that,
the
previous
administration
spent
a
lot
of
time,
just
sort
of
patching
and
painting
and
spare
parts
and
moving
parts
from
from
sort
of
one
school
or
one
facility
to
another.
H
So
I
I
really
appreciate
mayor
walsh's
attention
and
bill
pete
bps's
attention
to
to
sort
of
changing
the
trajectory
on
on
that
neglect
and
and
particularly
on
the
inefficiencies
as
well.
So
this
is
obviously
an
exciting
opportunity
for
us
to
be
supporting
upgrades
to
new
equipment,
particularly
on
the
boiler
side
and
the
roof
and
window
side.
So
then,
obviously
we
need
to
to
do
more
of
it.
We've
got
a
lot
of
old
and
integrated
facilities
that
need
are
in
dire
need
of
upgrading.
H
We
unfortunately
again
previous
administration
did
not
take
advantage
of
the
school
building
assistance
programs
and
a
lot
of
the
opportunities
that
existed
to
to
make
these
upgrades,
whether
it
was
through
building
new
school
buildings
or
whether
it
was
just
to
do
complete,
overhauls
and
renovations
and
so
again
played
a
lot
of
defense.
A
lot
of
patch
and
paint
and
now
we're
paying
for
it.
G
H
List
council
sabby
george
had
asked
for
that
list.
I'm
sure
the
list
is
is
voluminous
but
appreciate
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing.
No
real
specific
questions
just
wanted
to
open
on
that,
and
let
you
folks
know
that
it
will
enjoy
my
support
at
the
appropriate
time
when
the
chair
puts
together
a
committee
report
and
asks
for
passage,
these
are
necessary
upgrades
to
make
sure
that
our
buildings
are
in
the
best
possible
condition
they
can
be
in
and
short
of
them
being
new.
H
We
obviously
need
to
make
sure
that
our
kids,
the
boston
public
school
kids
are
are
are
in
facilities
in
schools,
that
that
have
heat
and
have
air
condition
and
have
windows
and
roofs
that
are
not
leaking
or
drafty,
so
all
good
stuff,
so
that
they
can
focus
on
what's
important,
which
is
is
teaching
and
learning
and
the
facilities
are
in
are
in
your
hands.
So
I
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
and
look
forward
to
supporting
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
Afternoon,
everyone
thank
you
for
hosting
this
chairwoman
bach
and
the
members
of
the
fine
establishments
that
are
making
up
this
particular
conversation,
I'm
just
curious
more
so
about
brian
or
nathan.
I
don't
know
who
can
answer
this
question,
but
just
public
facilities
carlton
in
terms
of
how
you're
picking
the
vendors
that
are
working
on
these
projects.
What
role
are
we
looking
at
making
sure
that
we
are
utilizing
minority
businesses
to
help
support
this
work?
And
how
are
you
utilizing
this
moment
to
create
opportunities
for
small
businesses
in
boston.
A
A
The
msba
actually
does
the
procurement
for
those
consultant
teams
so
and
they
assign
those
to
not
only
the
city
of
boston
but
for
all
municipalities
throughout
the
state.
So
that
question
I
can
reach
out
to
the
msba
to
identify
how
what
their
procurement
looks
like
in
terms
of
once
a
project
is
bid
and
put
out
to
bid
pfd
oversees
that
the
bidding
process.
I
And
you
know
brian,
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
appropriate
but-
and
I
know
beggars-
can't
be
choosy
because
they're
giving
us
this
opportunity.
But
is
there
a
role
for
the
city
to
kind
of
push
and
ask
specifically
for
vendors
of
color
to
be
earmarked
for
boston?
Is
that
being
to
push
you?
I
don't
know.
A
I
can
let
me
reach
out
to
the
msba
to
find
out
what
their
parameters
of
the
procurement
are
and
to
see
first
identify
what
that
is,
and
then
and
then
look
to
have
an
open
discussion
with
them
about
trying
to
promote
local
minority
women-owned
businesses
for
their
program,
and
they
may
do
that
already.
I'm
just
I'm
just
not
fully
aware.
I
I
I
E
I
What
you
get
nathan,
let
me
ask
you
a
question
nathan.
You
want
to
throw
brian
under
the
table.
So
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
how
you
all
determined.
I
think
I
think
you
guys
go
to
the
schools
that
need
the
most
right.
Is
that
how
and
I
heard
from
certain
schools
that
some
schools
don't
even
have
walls
or
the
walls
are
tearing
up
or
are
you
guys
doing
like
an
equity
assessment
and
then
utilizing
these
funds
to
help
support
schools
who
have
the
greatest
need.
E
Yeah
I
mean,
I
would
just
say
the
the
msba
process,
what
we're
using
that
for
is
really
the
priorities
based
on
the
sort
of
need
and
the
condition
of
the
assets
and
then
trying
to
put
in
some
some
of
the
longer
term
planning.
So,
for
instance,
if
we
know
that
a
a
particular
roof
needs
to
be
replaced,
but
we're
planning
to
do
a
major
renovation
before
we
did
the
elliott
project.
For
example,
we
wouldn't
have
done
that
roof
schools
without
walls.
E
E
As
you
may
know,
the
capital
budget
process
has
now
been
moved
under
the
finance
team
so
that
we
can
develop
a
more
transparency
and
an
equity
lens
similar
to
the
way
that
we
do
operating
budgets
and
make
sure
that
we
have
more
of
a
public
dialogue
around
our
capital
projects.
The
interesting
thing
about
capital
projects,
the
last
thing
I'll
just
say
about
this-
is
you
know,
unlike
the
operating
budget,
where
it
is
an
annual
number
and
you
can
tweak
it
and
it
basically
resets
each
year
we
can
really
assess
for
equity.
E
E
And
you
know
the
fact
that
you
haven't
seen
a
major
capital
project
at
mildred
avenue.
It
does
not
mean
that
those
students
and
are
not
at
one
of
our
best
facilities,
it's
sort
of
a
reflection,
so
we
just
need
to
take.
We
need
to
develop
a
sort
of
almost
like
a
multi-year
per-pupil
allocation.
Look
at
our
our
assets,
that's
something
that
I
love
feedback
from
from
the
council
on
and
something
that
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
to
develop
over
the
next.
I
Look
at
nate
using
all
that
beautiful
language,
good
job
and
I
need
to
be
involved
in
those
conversations.
So
can
you
talk
to
neil?
I
guess
he's
the
one
who'll
be
the
facilitator
of
making
sure
that
you
engage
me
in
those
dialogues.
That
would
be.
I
would
be,
and
I
I
think
that
the
chime
the
gavel
is
about
to
come.
I
D
D
If
anybody
else
on
the
council
has
further
questions,
so
you
can
just
raise
your
blue
hand,
so
one
is
really
a
follow-up
to
what
councilor
mejia
was
just
asking,
which
is,
I
think,
brian,
that
actually,
when
we
had
the
hearing
in
february,
you
were
there
representing
the
public
facilities
department,
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
fact
that
you
know
it
just
it
strikes
me.
I
mean
to
some
extent
right.
D
But
if
there's
nobody,
you
know
if
there's
no,
like
you
know,
entity
owned
by
a
person
of
color
or
local
the
city
of
boston.
That,
like
knows
how
to
do
a
boiler
job,
then
it
doesn't
matter.
You
know
how
much
we
advertise,
and
so
I
just
I
think
I
asked
back
in
february
what
work
pfd
and
bps
had
done
to
kind
of
talk
with
talk
with
the
office
of
economic
development
about
about
that
pipeline
and
how
we
could
support
forming
it,
and
I
just
I
wondered.
C
So
good
evening,
everyone
or
afternoon
carlton
jones.
If
I
I'd
like
to
answer
your
question
a
little
bit
further,
if
I
can
but
before
I
do
it
I'd
like
to
introduce
myself
so
I
know
councillor
flynn
and
councillor
clarity
and
others
from
my
past
life
when
I
used
to
be
at
in
wasabi
george,
when
I
used
to
be
at
boston,
public
schools,
I
was
in
the
capital,
planning
and
strategic
planning
arena.
C
When
I
was
at
boston,
public
schools,
I
moved
to
public
facilities
two
years
ago
to
actually
begin
to
implement,
build
bps.
You
know,
as
bill
bps
gets
rolled
out
to
start
building,
schools
etc,
so
taking
that
17
years
or
so
at
bps
and
coming
to
pfd
to
start
implementing
versus
the
planning
side.
So
I
can
because
I
am
at
pfd,
though
I
can
speak
to
how
we
might
be
able
to
address
that
so
I'm
one
of
the
assistant
directors
there.
C
C
We
could
collaborate
on
perhaps
putting
together
a
workshop
on
saying
this
is
this:
is
the
work
that
we
anticipate
over
the
next
six
twelve
months,
say
in
general
again
we're
going
to
have
to
stay
within
the
public
procurement
laws,
but
invite
people
to
come
in
have
conversations
with
them
covet
notwithstanding
anyway.
Have
them
come
in
and
say
this
is
the
kind
of
work
we
do.
This
is
our
schedule
that
we
tend
to
be
on
because
it's
somewhat
cyclical-
and
this
is
when
you
really
should
start
jitting
up
looking
for
this
kind
of
work.
C
If
you
want
to
participate,
these
are
things
you
need
to
do
to
start
getting
ready,
and
this
is
when
you
can
anticipate
looking
for
the
ads.
This
is
where
we
advertise
etc.
So
I
think
there's
there's
work
that
we
could
do
to
try
to
spread
the
wealth
to
widen,
widen
the
opportunity,
and
we
also
you
know
the
brjp
we
run
into
difficulty,
sometimes
because
we
can't
meet
some
of
the
guidelines
and
you
know
the
guidelines
for
for
the
workers
and
the
like.
C
D
Yeah,
no,
I
think
so,
and
I
think
I
just
think
when
you
see
this
kind
of
predictable
stream
of
work,
that's
also,
frankly
like
large
enough
in
scale
right
that
it
it
moves
a
lot
of
wealth
over
time.
You
know,
I
think
that
I
think
we've
we've
we've
managed
to
get
predictable
work
to
contractors
of
color
for
things
like
paper
right
but
like
we
need
to.
D
We
need
to
start
expanding
that
and
I
think
that
these
are
these
are
at
a
nice
intersection
of
being
capital
projects,
but
also
being
kind
of
cyclical
and
repetitive
in
this
way,
so
I
would
love
to
love
to
work
on
that
with
you
all
and
I'm
sure
counselor
mejia
and
others
would
as
well.
So
thank
you
and
thanks
for
introducing
yourself
carlton
to
those
of
us
who
don't
know
you
and
then
my.
I
guess
my
one
other
question
really.
D
It
is
for
you,
it's
it's
a
follow-up
again
on
a
conversation
that
I
had
with
chief
brophy
back
in
the
budget
process,
but
you
know
we
we
didn't
when
we
had
the
hearing
in
february,
brian
was
representing
pfd
and
I
think
was
it.
The
chief
of
staff
capacity-
brian
yes,
because
pfc
didn't
have
a
director
at
the
time
and
had
a
number
of
senior
vacancies,
and
now
I
see
that
brian
has
also
departed.
D
Pfd
is
sitting
at
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
table
metaphorically
here,
and
I
think
we
still
haven't
filled
the
director
role
and
I
think
there
are
also
still
a
number
of
senior
vacancies.
So
I
guess
my
question
is
and
it's
about
these
projects
and
it's
also
about
our
capital
project
portfolio
city-wide.
D
I'm
very
concerned
that
we'd
be
able
to
expedite
our
capital
work
as
a
kind
of
counter-cyclical
thing
right
now
in
this
economic
crisis,
and
I've
been
very
concerned
about,
like
kind
of
our
capacity
at
pfd
to
just
have
like
enough
people
hired
and
overseeing
that
to
make
it
happen.
And
then
I
also
think
something
like
what
we
were
just
discussing
requires.
D
You
know
leadership,
time
and
attention
which
of
course
requires
there
to
be
leadership
in
place.
So
I
just
was
wondering
if
you
could
update
us
both
on
kind
of
pfd's
the
plan
for
overseeing
these
projects
and
making
sure
that
they
stick
to
this
tight
timeline.
But
also
kind
of
where
we
are
on
the
pfd
staffing
front
and
what
the
prospects
for
improving
that
in
the
near
future
are.
C
Thanks
chairman
bach,
so
first
of
all,
I
certainly
cannot
speak
for
chief
rophie.
I
just
want
to
stay
that
state
that
upfront
that
this
is
definitely
his
question
to
answer.
However,
I
can
give
you
I
can
give
you
a
sense
of
assurance
that
there
are
six
assistant
directors
over
there.
One
is
in
the
you
know,
one
it
takes
care
of
the
legal
matters.
C
One
takes
care
of
more
design,
so
the
rest
of
us,
the
four
of
us
remaining,
are
steadfastly
determined
to
ensure
that
we're
moving
our
projects
forward
and
it's
kind
of
interesting
with
our
you
know
we're
working
from
home.
As
you
probably
know,
and
in
some
ways
I
think,
we're
working
more
efficiently.
If
I
could
say
that
out
loud,
you
know
we
don't
have
trends.
We
have
very
few
transition
problems
right.
C
We
don't
have
to
travel
from
site
to
site,
although
I've
been
traveling
from
site
to
site,
but
in
general,
though
we
were
able
to
hit
meetings
more
often,
you
know
the
commute
time
is
short
going
from
zoom
to
webex
or
whatever
it
is.
So
we've
been
able
to
really
keep
our
design
teams
moving.
Keep
our
contractors
moving.
I
was
just
so.
C
The
arp
projects
are
my
projects
coming
from
the
school
side
and
so,
for
instance,
like
I'm
very
happy
to
report
that
our
windows
projects
at
the
otis
and
o'brien
they're
they're
they're
wrapping
up
they're
cleaning
floors.
Now
it's
amazing
that
we're
all
we're
getting
ready
to
turn
the
those
projects,
those
buildings
back
over
to
the
school
department,
because
we're
that
close-
and
here
it
is
in
the
middle
of
august-
it's
not
the
end
of
august.
So
you
know
we
are
we're
getting
the
job
done.
C
We're
working
like
crazy
chief
brophy
meets
with
us
on
a
regular
basis.
He
is
not
shy
to
contact
us
if
he
needs
to
when
he
needs
to
to
either
find
out
what's
going
on
or
ensure
something
is
happening.
So
I
don't
want
to
say
that
we
are
doing
better
without
the
director.
For
sure
I
mean
we,
you
know
obviously
that's
a
vacancy,
but
we're
we're
stepping
up
and
we're
getting
the
job
done
in
that
absence,
and
he
has
ensured
that
all
the
way
through
the
organization.
C
Not
because
of
staffing
shortage,
I
was
going
to
say
we
had
a
covet
delay
as
you
know,
so
that
added
time
and
then
we're
also
hearing
from
some
contractors
to
some
slight
extent
about
additional
delay.
That's
coveted
related,
but
as
it
relates
to
staffing,
not
at
all,
we
are,
like,
I
said,
we're
getting
the
job
done.
I
mean
it's,
making
people
work
harder
in
some
ways,
and
you
know
people
are
taking
on
more
responsibilities
to
try
to
cover
up
the
gap
a
little
bit.
D
For
sure,
no
I'm
I'm
very
glad
to
hear
that,
and
I
I
I
very
much
believe
in
your
good
endeavors.
I
I
think
I
it's
an
ongoing
conversation
between
me
and
the
buddha
director
and
others
that
you
know
we
we
never.
We
never
actually
do
all
of
the
work
that
we
put
in
our
capital
budget.
I
mean
that's
just
always
true
right.
C
Correct
so
we
have,
for
instance,
we
just
filled,
or
we
are
filling
vacancies
that
we
have
at
the
project
manager
level.
So
you
know
we
have
senior
project
managers,
project
manager,
twos
and
ones,
so
we're
working
hard
to
get
those
done.
We're
reviewing
applications
now
for
p1
vacancy
that
we
have
so
we
can
get
that
person
in
the
pipeline,
get
them
on
board,
get
them
fully
engaged.
C
C
D
B
E
I'm
gonna,
let
brian
give
you
more
detail
on
the
the
project
I
just
wanna,
I
just
wanna.
Second,
what
you're
saying
it
is
an
exceptional
school
and
that
community.
Then
the
project
is
continuing
to
move
forward.
I'm
very
excited
about
it,
and
brian
can
give
more
details
on
the
the
current
status
of
the
design
and
and
site
selection
stuff.
A
A
So
I,
as
far
as
we
know,
msba,
will
be
collaborating
and
reimbursing
on
pools,
which
is
atypical
from
their
program.
They
do
not
reimburse
districts
on
pools
that
are
included
in
any
of
their
in
their
schools,
but
with
the
with
the
needs
of
the
carter
school,
I
feel
they're
they're
gonna
be
working
with
us.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
brian
thank
you
nate
and
the
bps
team.
The
carter
is
not
in
my
district,
it's
on
the
it's
on
the.
As
you
know,
it's
on
the
border
of
roxbury
in
the
south
end,
but
in
my
opinion,
is
there's
no
better
program,
probably
in
the
country
for
students
with
disabilities
in
the
the
carter
school.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
teachers,
the
principal
and
the
occupational
assistants
at
the
carter
school.
So
thank
you
for
your
commitment
to
the
students
of
the
carter
school.
Thank
you.
I
Yes,
so
I
do
have
a
few
questions
and
I'm
really
carlton.
I'm
really
excited
to
hear
the
way
you
think,
especially
in
in
the
idea
of
creating
spaces
for
workshops
for
people.
I
think
oftentimes
we
take
for
granted
that
everyone
knows
how
to
navigate
the
system
and
how
to
have
access
to
these
opportunities.
So
I'm
really
excited
that
you're
thinking
within
that
framework.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
partnering
with
you
on
that.
I
I
do
have
some
very
specific
questions,
though,
in
regards
to
community
engagement,
making
this
gonna
be
for
you
just
so.
You
know
I'm
gonna,
let
brian
off
the
hook
for
this
one,
I'm
just
curious
about
what
what
type
of
outreach
and
information
has
been
prepared
for
folks
who
have
special
languages
other
than
english,
who
speak
languages
other
than
english,
like
how
you
guys
have
worked
to
engage
folks
in
this
process.
E
Yeah
I
mean
I
would
say,
on
the
capital
budget
process.
I
think
we
need
to
think
broader
about
engagement
in
general
and
I
think
there's
been
a
tension
between
sort
of
our
capital
budget
being
a
response
to
building
needs
and
the
needs
assessment
driving
it
and
then
how
public
the
sort
of
request
process
is
I'll.
E
Second,
your
thought,
in
terms
of
both
when
it
comes
to
the
business
side,
but
also
community
side
how
transparent
the
process
is,
is
often
a
way
in
which
we
can
increase
access
and
the
equity
of
a
process
right
like
those
who
know
how
to
navigate
the
system
can
succeed
in
it
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
make
it
more
transparent.
I
heard
this
very
loudly
during
the
our
budget
process
and
I'll
apply
it
to
the
capital
process
as
well.
E
That
translation
will
happen
early
and
often
so
that
we
don't
go
forward
with
budget
documents
and
budget
presentations
that
haven't
been
translated
so
that
at
the
start
of
the
public
engagement
process,
people
can
access
it.
Now.
I
think
one
of
the
ways
that
we
could
do
that
is.
We
have
a
number
of
standard
documents,
including
what
we
refer
to
as
like
the
weighted
student
funding
template
that
we
can
think
about
translating
up
front
and
then
updating
and
I
think,
on
the
capital
process.
E
I
Parents
are
really
frustrated
and
feel
as
though
they
haven't
been
that
they've
been
left
out
of
the
conversation,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
to
learn.
How
has
the
city
worked
with
parents,
school
officials
and
community
members
to
decide
which
schools
will
go
under
what
projects
it?
Has
there
been
a
process
that
way?
Does
it
work
that
way
or
no,
I
know
the
school
site.
Council
oftentimes
participates
in
in
school
budgets,
but
I'm
just
curious
about
the
selection
of
this.
What
what
did
that
look
like.
E
Yeah,
I
would
say
that
a
a
sort
of
the
public
process
of
our
capital
budget
has
been
limited
to
sort
of
the
presentation
of
our
capital
priorities
in
the
spring
and
the
discussion
about
that
through
the
city
council
process.
I
think
we
need
to
to
do
a
better
job.
We've
had
some
internal
processes
in
the
past,
where
we
collect
capital
requests
from
schools,
but
it's
really.
E
What
we're
working
to
do
is
build
some
of
the
things
that
you've
seen
in
the
billbps
process
over
the
last
few
years
and
making
it
an
annual
update.
So
we've
seen
recently
in
the
news
people
going
back
to
the
build
bps
website,
the
dashboard
that
has
the
assessments,
but
we
haven't
updated
that
website
in
quite
some
time.
So
we
need
to.
E
We
need
to
build
in
our
process
and
practices,
not
just
our
internal
assessments,
but
how
do
we
publish
that
data
and
make
it
transparent
and
then
also
let
people
know
this
is
the
cycle
for
when
requests
need
to
go
in.
This
is
what
we've
received,
and
this
is
what
we're
prioritizing
for
these
reasons
you
know
with
covid
and
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
on.
E
I
don't
want
to
over
commit
to
how
much
different
the
process
is
going
to
be
for
fy22,
but
just
know
that
that
is
part
of
the
part
of
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
is
on
the
operating
side.
It's
exactly
what
you
said.
The
first
people
to
get
budget
information
are
the
school
leaders.
Then
they
have
to
present
to
their
school
site
councils
before
the
school
committee
votes
on
the
budget.
E
There's
many
hearings
on
it
for
the
for
the
school
committee,
and
then
it
goes
to
city
council,
where
you
have
a
few
hearings
of
your
own.
So
we're
going
to
look
to
do
a
lot
more
of
that
with
a
capital
budget
where
we
send
information
out
to
people.
Let
them
know
where
they're
at
what
their
assets
are
and
then
going
forward
figuring
out
ways
to
engage
this.
The
school
committee
more
transparently.
I
D
Great
thank
you
councillor,
mejia.
I
think,
actually
with
that
that
we've
we've
come
to
the
end
of
counselor
questions,
so
I
think
it
just
remains
to
thank
the
panelists
brian
and
nate
and
carlton
for
coming
today.
I'm
certainly
going
to
be
recommending,
in
my
capacity
as
chair
that
the
council
will
approve
this
accept
and
expand
order,
and-
and
you
know,
I
think
this
is
important
work
and
that
we've
also
identified
some
important
follow-up
steps
too.
So
thank.