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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means FY22Budget: Law Dept, Arts & Culture, Tourism, Sports & Special Events
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Docket #0524-0531, 0540-0543 - Fiscal Year 2022 Budget - Law Department, Arts & Culture and Tourism, Sports & Special Events
Held on April 29, 2021
A
Okay
and
we'll
be
going
in
the
order,
that's
listed
on
the
on
the
screen
here
so
law
and
then
arts
and
culture,
and
then
tourism
with
apologist,
kate
and
team.
A
A
A
And
carrier
candace:
are
we
ready?
I
see
we're
live
on
youtube.
A
All
right
we
got
lots
to
get
through,
so
I
think
we
should
get
going.
I'm
calling
this
meeting
of
the
sorry
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
kenzie
bach,
I'm
the
district,
8
city,
councilor
and
also
the
chair
of
the
ways
and
means
committee.
A
It's
part
of
the
city
council's
budget
review
process,
which
is
encompassing
about
35
public
hearings
and
working
sessions
throughout
the
months
of
april
may
and
june,
and
we're
really
encouraging
residents
to
get
involved
in
the
process
by
testifying
throughout
the
process.
So
you
can
do
that
in
a
number
of
ways.
A
You
can
see
the
whole
schedule
of
department
hearings.
If
you
go
to
boston.gov
council
dash
budget,
that's
boston.gov,
council
dash
budget
and
at
any
of
those
department
hearings
you
can
give
testimony
you
can
sign
up
through
that
website.
You
can
also
find
it
at
boston,
budget
dash,
testify
and
then-
and
if
you
want
to
reach
us
by
email,
send
an
email
to
ccc.wm,
that's
amazonmother,
so
ccc.wm
boston.gov
and
we'll
help
you
find
the
links.
A
So
you
can
come
and
join
us
in
one
of
these
zooms
and
actually
testify
in
person
that
way
or
virtually
in
person.
You
can
submit
a
video
which
we
will,
if
you,
if
you
upload,
that
for
us
48
hours
in
advance,
we'll
actually
attach
it
to
the
video
of
a
hearing
or
you
can
send
us
an
email
at
that
address.
Ccc.Wm
boston.gov,
with
written
testimony
and
that'll
get
entered
into
the
record.
A
So
we're
definitely
looking
for
your
testimony.
Thanks
thankful
to
all
who
joined
us
last
night
for
a
public
testimony
hearing
we
want
to
hear
from
you.
These
are
your
dollars,
both
city
dollars
and
the
federal
funding
that
we're
getting
and-
and
we
want
your
voice
in
the
process.
A
Today's
hearing
is
on
docket
zero,
five,
two
four
zero:
five:
two
six
orders
for
the
fy
22
operating
budget,
including
annual
appropriations
for
departmental
operations
for
the
school
department
and
for
other
post-employment
benefits.
Docket
0527-0528
orders
for
capital
fund
transfer
appropriations
and
zero
five
docket
0529-0531
orders
for
the
capital
budget,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements.
Those
are
our
standard
budget
dockets
and
then.
A
A
The
maximum
amount
that
that
fund
can
hold,
which
is
just
a
way
for
us
to
make
sure
that
those
funds
are
being
used
in
the
way
that
they're
designed
to
be
used
coming
that
the
money
really
is
revolving.
It's
not
building
up.
It's
not
being
spent
on
sort
of
other
purposes,
and
so
throughout
this
budget
process,
you
will
hear
us
talk
about
revolving
funds
as
something
that
some
departments
have
and
the
three
departments
who
are
before
us
today:
law,
the
mayor's
office
of
arts
and
culture
and
the
mayor's
office
of
tourism,
sports
and
entertainment.
A
Each
have
revolving
funds
in
their
care.
So
I'm
joined
here
today
by
my
colleagues
counselor
ed
flynn
of
district
2,
counselor
anissa
sabi
george
at
large
councilor
liz,
braden
district
9,
councillor,
julia
mejia
at
large
councilor,
michael
flaherty,
at
large
and
counselor,
andrea
campbell
district
4.
A
and,
with
apologies
to
counselors.
I
think
we're
going
to
continue
what
we've
been
doing,
which
is
to
jump
straight
into
hearing
from
the
department
so
that
we
can
maximize
counselor
time
for
questions
rather
than
just
general
statements.
So
we
will
begin
with
the
law
department
and
we're
joined
today
I'll
introduce
each
department
as
we're
going
along.
So
we're
joined
today
by
henry
lutheran
from
who's.
A
Our
corporation
council
for
the
city,
who
I
believe
is
joined
on
his
team
by
susan
weiss,
the
first
assistant
corporation
council,
adam
cederbaum,
the
general
counsel
and
lena
kate
ahern,
the
assistant
corporation
council,
and
so
without
further
ado.
Henry
over
to
you.
C
I'm
chairman,
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
very
much
councillors
for
hearing
us
today.
I
thought.
First
of
all
I
would
I
would
just
go
over
the
structure
of
the
department,
then
some
of
the
challenges
we're
facing
and
some
of
the
budget
items
that
have
changed
in
this
in
this
year's
budget
as
to
structure
susan
wisely
is
the
first
assistant
for
litigation.
C
Her
shop
handles
there's
about
ten
attorneys
there
when
we're
fully
staffed.
Her
shop
handles
all
litigation
against
the
city,
adam
cedarbaum's
department,
government
services,
the
lawyers
there
again
when
we're
fully
staffed.
It
should
be
ten
lawyers,
service,
general
counsel
to
the
various
city
departments
and
we'll
we'll
answer.
Questions
guide,
departments
on
regulations,
contracts,
answer
policy,
questions,
lena
cata,
hearn
is
ahead
of
our
claims
and
revolve
affirmative
recovery
section,
and
she
will
answer
all
questions
about
the
revolving
fund.
This
basically
comes
under
her.
C
We
also
have
constituent
parts
of
the
department
in
other
city
agencies,
for
example,
boston,
public
schools,
a
legal
advisor,
the
boston
police
department,
legal
advisor
inspectional
services,
legal
advisor
public
facilities,
legal
advisor,
and
we
have
a
special
acc
at
the
library
who
is
not
on
our
budget.
But
who
has
is
a
former
member
of
our
staff
who
has
acc
authority
over
there.
C
C
On
june
1st,
we
have
been
able
to
interview
and
attract
people.
Unfortunately,
we
tend
to
lose
people.
They.
We
lost
three
to
labor
labor
relations,
one
to
schools,
labor
relations,
this
past
year,
two
to
labor
relations
in
city
hall.
Labor
relations
is
not
part
of
us,
but
you
can
see
how
attorneys
as
they
progress.
C
If
they
see
a
career
path,
they
may
want
to
specialize,
and
this
is
a
golden
opportunity
for
them
and
we
certainly
do
not
discourage
anyone
who
who
wants
to
wants
to
leave
the
department
to
further
their
career.
C
In
terms
of
changes
to
the
budget,
where
125
thousand
dollars
has
been
reallocated
from
our
department
to
the
new
office
of
police,
accountability
and
training
department
that
stephanie
everett
will
ahead,
stephanie
is
coming
on
board
monday
right
now.
She
is
under
contract
with
us
as
special
counsel,
so
that
she
can
view
various
confidential
documents
and
the
documents
will
not
lose
the
attorney
client
privilege.
C
It
will
be
a
pleasure
to
be
able
to
work
with
her.
She
will
have
a
shop
that
I
suspect
we
will
be
working
with
for
the
next
year
and
in
years
to
come,
a
lot
of
challenges
we're
facing,
and
we
certainly
want
to
support
the
administration
which
we
we
always
do,
and
we
want
to
continue
to
provide
the
best
legal
services
we
can
to
the
the
various
departments,
the
mayor
and
the
city
agencies.
C
So
with
that
I
will,
I
will
open
it
for
questions
or
or
anything
else
you,
madam
chair,
would
like
to
see
addressed.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much,
I'm
henry
and
I'll
just
say
to
counselors.
I
think
we
will
we'll
run
through
questions
for
law
right
now,
so
that
we
can
let
them
go
rather
than
waiting
for
all
three
departments,
but
I
would
just
ask
counselors
to
when
we
have
three
departments
like
this
to.
You
know
really
focus
in
on
the
questions
you
want
answered
and
and
that
we
don't
do
excess
long
rounds,
because
then
we'll
keep
our
other
departments
waiting.
A
C
Absolutely
and
I'd
ask
lena
kay
to
hearn
our
assistant
corporation
council
in
charge
of
who
has
general
jurisdiction
over
the
revolving
funds
to
address
that.
D
Right
sure,
so
I
am
the
director
of
the
claims
division
within
the
law
department,
as
henry
said,
and
part
of
the
work
that
we
do.
There
is
to
bring
claims
against
individuals
and
insurance
companies
to
recover
compensation
for
property
damages
that
have
been
caused
to
city
property,
often
vehicles
as
well
as
buildings,
fences,
trees.
D
Things
like
that
and
the
revolving
fund
is
where
that
money
is
deposited
when
we
receive
checks
from
entities
or
individuals,
we've
filed
claims
against
and
that
can
come
in
through
a
pre-litigation
claim
or
if
it
goes
into
litigation
and
it's
settled
or
we
obtain
a
judgment
in
the
fund
and
departments
can
then
apply
to
that
fund
to
use
the
funds
available
there.
Instead
of
having
to
use
their
own
budgets
for
that
year
to
make
repairs
to
property,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
exactly
the
same
as
if
they
had
a
claim
before
that
they
assisted
with.
D
The
budget
office
keeps
track
of
that
amount
of
money
that
we're
able
to
bring
in
from
that
claim,
and
then
that
department
is
sort
of
allocated
for
two
years
the
amount
of
money
they
have
brought
in
after
two
years.
The
money
just
becomes
available
to
any
department
to
apply
for
so
that
department
sort
of
has
priority
to
that
money
for
a
period
of
time
after
it's
brought
in.
But
if
they
don't
take
advantage
of
it
within
two
years,
it
then
becomes
sort
of
a
more
general
fund
for
departments
to
apply
for.
A
Great,
and,
and
can
you
speak
to
any
sort
of
like
do
we
find
that
it's
fairly
consistent
year
to
year
or
have
there
been
trends
recently
in
its
utilization.
D
D
So
that
means
you
know
we
can
do
what
we
can
to
try
to
obtain
recovery,
but
there
you
know
if
somebody
doesn't
have
insurance
or
funds
available
there,
there
really
isn't
any
money
to
be
had,
for
example,
it's
a
criminal
act
that
causes
someone
to
crash
into
a
wall
of
the
boston,
common
insurance
might
not
cover
in
that
situation.
D
A
Great
and
then
henry
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you,
I
mean
obviously
16
positions.
16
attorneys
down
is
like
pretty
dramatic
for
the
ability
of
the
department
to
do
the
work
that
we
count
on
it
to
do,
and
well
I
take
the
point
about
people
moving
on
in
their
careers
it.
It
feels
to
me
like
that
suggests
that
we
maybe
don't
pay
competitive
salaries
or
are
otherwise
you
know
limited
in
our
ability
to
compete,
and
so
I
just
I
wonder
what
strategically
we're
we're
doing
about
that.
C
People
leave
us
for
places
like
massport
the
city
of
cambridge,
the
city
of
somerville,
and
I
I
I
do
want
to
say
that
ohr
is
seeking
to
address
that
that
issue,
and
we
hope
that
this
will
help
us
out
in
retaining
people.
It's
it's
frustrating
when
people,
when
lawyers
get
their
feet
wet,
get
honed
in
their
craft
hone
their
craft.
C
A
And
so
when
you
say,
ohr
is
doing
a
review,
I
mean.
Is
there
an
end
point
for
that?
I
mean,
first
of
all,
in
a
kind
of
like
immediate
sense.
I
would
think
at
the
point
at
which
you're
down
16
positions.
Frankly,
it
would
be
better
to
be
at
like
okay,
fine,
we're
going
to
list
10
positions,
but
they're
all
going
to
have
more
money
attached,
so
we
can
actually
fill
them
than
to
have
sort
of,
and
I'm
not
suggesting
that
you
want
to
downsize.
A
C
I
think
they're
addressing
it.
I
can't
give
you
a
date.
You
know,
but
they
they're,
seeking
to
address
that
expeditiously.
Okay,.
A
I
just
think
it's
something
we
should
further
follow
up
on,
because
I
mean
you
know
the
law
department.
We
both
rely
on
it's
sort
of.
Like
the
you
know,
the
meter
made
conversation
in
normal
times
right,
the
kind
of
like
you
know
you
guys
you
protect
us
from
having
to
pay
large
judgments
as
a
city,
you,
you
know,
pursue
opportunities
for
us
to
recover
funding
and
then
also
on
a
whole
bunch
of
non-financial
fronts.
Obviously,
you
know
there's
been
considerable
press
attention
to
a
recent
lawsuit
concerning
the
exam
schools,
admission
they're.
A
I
think
you're
currently
engaged
in
defending
us.
On
a
first
amendment
front,
the
council,
I
mean
these
are
like
pretty
important
policy
things
in
addition
to
the
financial
things
that
we
don't
want
to
go
unrepresented
on.
C
And
madam
chairman,
I
want
to,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
up
the
exam
school
litigation.
This
was
this
had
to
be
done
on
a
dime.
We
have
wonderful,
wonderful,
outside
counsel,
kay
hodge,
who
has
represented
us
in
in
many
matters.
I
took
this
up
and
working
with
kathy
lazada.
C
Our
legal
advisor
at
boston,
public
schools
did
a
marvelous
job
with
with
the
briefs
and
made
quick
turnarounds,
and
you
know
I
I
can't
say
enough
about
not
only
the
people
in-house,
but
those
we
have
on
contract
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
all
right.
Next
up,
counselor
ed
flynn.
E
Thank
you,
counselor
bark.
Thank
you.
Chad,
walk!
Thank
you
to
the
corporation
council
team,
that's
here
for
your
outstanding
work
and
just
want
to
acknowledge
henry
and
his
long-term
long
time,
dedication
to
the
residents
of
boston,
an
exceptional
attorney
and
a
man
with
exceptional
integrity,
so
just
want
to
say
thank
you
henry
for
being
such
a
dedicated
city
employee.
For
all
these
years.
E
Do
do
the
positions
that
are
still
open
is
is
the
reason
that
they
might
be
open.
Is
that
the
start
of
the
initial
salary,
the
the
salary
shot,
might
be
a
little
too
low,
or
you
know,
as
you
know,
and
your
attorneys
know
coming
out
of
law
school,
they
probably
have
huge
tuition
bills
and
they
need
to
pay
their
tuition
bills
off,
but
is
this?
Is
the
salary
chart?
Does
that
need
to
be
adjusted?
E
And
what
are
some
of
the
issues
relating
to
the
salary
henry.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
council
first
for
your
kind
words,
but
also
for
bringing
this
this
up.
You
know
I
I
think
that
if,
if
appropriate
adjustments
are
made,
it
would
make
our
life
a
lot
easier.
C
Having
said
that,
in
the
environment,
we're
in-
and
surprisingly,
I
think
to
me
anyway
after
the
pandemic,
but
there's
a
lot
of
competition
for
lawyers
out
there,
so
we're
we're
fighting
by
the
way
we're
the
people
we
interview
are
are
very,
very
good
and
we've
been
fortunate
to
be
able
to
hire
a
number
of
people
this
past
year,
and
you
know,
including
a
couple
of
stellar
attorneys
who
we
have
brought
on
here
at
city
hall
and
also
in
in
some
of
the
other
agencies
that
that
we
handle.
C
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
henry
and
thank
you
to
your
team
and
that's
something
going
forward.
I
hope
I
can
work
closely
with
counselor
book
and
the
mayor's
office
and
ways
and
means
committee
on
making
sure
that
the
the
corporation
council
staff
has
the
necessary
resources
and
funding,
so
we
can
attract
the
exceptional
attorneys
that
you
that
you
that
you
have
there.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
to
your
team
henry.
E
A
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn,
councillor
sabi
george
and
then
it's
braden
mejia
flaherty
campbell
edwards
and
we
were
joined
by
councilor
edwards.
A
while
ago,
councillor
sabi
george.
F
F
What
have
what
has
that
created
in
terms
of
delays
around
cases
that
you
are
focused
on
the
work
that
you
are
focused
on
and
you
know,
is
there
an
opportunity,
in
the
interim
to
contract
out
with
additional
legal
services
to
maybe
get
through
some
of
the
cases
that
are
outstanding
and
what
are
some
of
the
longer
standing
cases
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
process
or
proceed
with
because
of
the
the
lack
of
resources
in
people.
C
You
know
that's
a
very
good
question:
it's
we've
really
been
attentive
to,
and
susan
can
speak
to
this
as
well
as
adam,
very
attentive
to
keeping
up
with
litigation.
C
There
are
a
couple
of
things
that
have
we
have
been
able
to
put
on
the
back
burner
but
which
I
for
one
would
have
liked
to
have
have
addressed,
but
I
I
know
in
terms
of
litigation,
we're
very
prompt.
I
don't
think
anything
has
fallen
behind
and
again
for
for
a
lot
of
the
specialty
work
we
do
have
outside
counsel.
G
No,
I
think,
as
far
as
litigation
goes
we're
in
fairly
good
shape.
There
is
no
back
burning
for
litigation,
it's
run
by
the
courts.
We
have
to
do
what
they
you
know,
direct
us
to
do
on
their
time
schedule.
We've
we
work
very
hard.
We
work
at
night
to
work
on
weekends
and
we've
gotten
it
done,
for
instance,
this
this
exam
school
case.
We
were
putting
those
briefs
together
over
the
weekends
I
mean
we
were
while
k.
G
Hodge
was
the
drafter,
I
mean
kathy
lazot
and
I
were
reviewing
constantly
so
nothing
really
falls
between
the
cracks
in
litigation,
we're
moving
forward.
We
use
outside
counsel,
on
occasion
when
there's
a
conflict
of
interest.
If
you
have
multiple
defendants
and
sometimes
they
like
to
point
the
finger
at
each
other,
we
might
need
outside
counsel
for
that
and
or
if
there's
a
particular
area
of
expertise
that
we
may
need
on
occasion,
but
so
far
in
litigation,
we're
doing.
Okay
for
the
moment,
you
know
for
some
of
it
too,
with
the
pandemic.
G
G
F
Difficult,
thank
you,
susan.
Thank
you.
Henry
and
just
you
know
want
to
echo
what
counselor
flynn
and
council
brock
have
both
said
around
supporting
the
efforts
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
we're
appropriately
compensating
attorneys
and
that
we're
able
to
get
highly
skilled
and
highly
trained
attorneys
to
do
this
work
on
behalf
of
of
the
city
of
boston,
both
as
a
municipality
and
its
people.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
That's
it
for
me
just
with
this.
Thank
you.
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
and
thanks
also
to
all
the
the
team
in
the
law
department
for
the
great
work
they're
doing.
I
share
my
colleagues
concerns
about
the
staff
situation
and
I
don't
want
to
repeat
everything.
They've
already
said.
Just
I
just
wonder
in
terms
of
incentivizing,
you
know
further
longer
tenure
in
the
in
the
in
your
department.
Are
there
career
development
pathways
or
or
other
ways
to
incentivize
your
attorneys
to
stay
longer?.
C
Indeed,
it
is,
but
it's
it
is
something
I
think
the
fact
that
we
have
established
legal
advisor
positions
in
other
departments
that
we
had
not
had
them
before
would
lead
people
to
stay
longer,
so
that
when
there
is
an
eventual
vacancy
in
a
legal
advisor
position,
then
people
would
have
the
opportunity
then,
to
move
into
another
management
position
which
perhaps
wasn't
there
before.
H
I'm
just
wondering,
like
I
think,
if
you're
down
16
attorneys,
you
know
in
terms
of
just
the
work
rate,
other
people
have
to
step
it
up
and
and
do
extra
duty
in
a
way.
Yes,
I
think
it's
it's
it's
a.
It
can
be
a
war
of
attrition
over
time
and
you
don't
want
to
burn
out
your
staff
and
and
lose
people
because
they
get
so
burnt
out
that
they
can't
do
it
anymore.
So
again,
I
think
this.
H
This
is
a
really
urgent
issue
and
I
support
like
my
colleagues
in
calling
for
any
assistance
that
we
can
give
to
to
support
you
hiring
more
folks
to
have
to
take
on
this.
This
incredible
workload
that
you
carry.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Many
of
my
questions
have
already
been
asked,
so
I
will
leave
my
time.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
counselor
brandon,
we
do
have
our
other
two
departments,
so
brevity
is
especially
appreciated
today,
all
right,
councillor,
mejia
and
then
we'll
be
councillor
flaherty
councillor
here.
Thank
you.
I
Chair
and
thank
you
henry
and
to
your
team
for
your
hard
work,
it's
greatly
appreciated.
I
just
have
a
few
questions.
I'm
curious
about
the
diversity
makeup
of
the
staff,
your
lawyers,
if
you
could
just
kind
of
walk
us
through
kind
of
what
that
breakdown
looks
like.
C
We
have
in
terms
of
attorneys.
C
One
of
one
african-american
attorney
two
asian
asian
american
attorneys,
one
asian
american
paralegal
and.
B
C
Six
black
females
in
the
department,
one
hispanic,
male
one,
asia,
two
asian
females,
one
asian
male,
17,
white
females,
22
white
males
for
the
top
ten
earners
in
the
department,
five
white
females,
one
asian
female
four
white
males-
and
that-
and
I
have
to
say
thinking
back.
We
we
have
a
diverse
department
in
the
sense
that
I,
my
goodness,
I
clicked
the
wrong
button.
C
We
have
a
diverse
department
in
the
sense
that
a
lot
of
the
people
who
leave
have
been
members
of
minority
groups
who
see
opportunities,
one
palestinian
american
left
a
couple
of
years
ago
he's.
Fortunately,
we've
been
able
to
keep
him
on
as
council
in
the
in
the
quincy
bridge
case
and
he's
also
chair
of
the
lobbying
commission.
C
African-American
female
left
us
to
go
to
labor
relations
this
summer.
So
we've
we
seem
to
be
a
pass
through
for
a
lot
of
people,
and
you
know-
and
this
is
another
reason
that
I
I
think
it's
important
to
retain.
I
Thank
you
for
that
henry
and
I
think
that
there
is
really
an
opportunity
in
terms
of
how
we
recruit
and
retain
talents
of
color.
So
maybe
that's
something
that
we
can
just
put
a
pin
on
and
figure
out
what
that
would
look
like
and
then
I'm
just
curious
following
this
thread
in
terms
of
just
representation
and
diversity.
I
I'm
also
curious
about
you
have
one
hispanic
person
working
and
you
know
we
have
a
large
latino
population-
was
curious
about
what
that
engagement
looks
like
and
then
I
just
have
two
very
specific
questions
about
certain
situations.
So
if
you
want
to
answer
that,
then
I
have
two
specific
questions.
Sure.
C
I
really
can't
they
they
they
do
everything
that
everybody
does
the
same
thing.
So
I
I
don't
know.
Maybe
I'm
not
I'm
just
answering
your
question.
C
Well,
we
represent
the
city
and
if
there
is
a
need
for
a
translation
services,
we
we
we
we
obtain
those,
but
since
we
represent
the
city,
we
really
don't
interact
with
third-party
clients.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
So
I
have
two
questions
specifically.
One
is
in
regards
to
special
education
in
boston,
public
schools,
and
I'm
just
because
I
hear
from
a
lot
of
parents
who
have
had
to
literally
seek
counsel
to
advocate
fiercely
for
their
children
and
I'm
just
curious.
How
much
money
are
we
spending
on
defending
those
cases.
C
I
would
have
to
get
that
for
you
that
would
be
in
retrospect.
I
should
have
had
kathy
lazzotte
here
who's
the
legal
advisor
to
boston,
public
schools.
She's
got
two
very
dedicated
attorneys
who
specialize
in
special
ed
work.
So
let
me
let
me
get
that
information
for
you.
Maybe
offline
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
I
And
then
my
last
question
is
in
regards
to
the
boston
police
department
and
I'm
curious
in
terms
of
representation
in
that
space.
I've
gotten
some
emails
around.
This
is
more
from
a
labor
perspective
of
folks
having
to,
I
guess,
ordered
to
work.
These
are
the
the
911
folks
who
are
yielding
those
calls
and
right
now,
they're,
understaffed
and
and
have
been
ordered
to
work
under
extreme
circumstances.
I
I
Even
if
it's,
but
even
if
it's
these
are
city
workers
who
right
now
are
being
ordered
to
work
under
very
extreme
circumstances
and
many
of
which
have
experienced
covet
and
under
that,
I'm
sure
that
there
are
some
guidelines
in
terms
of
how
people
are
protected.
So
can
you
just
talk
to
me
about
what
the
process
is
in
place
when
it's
our
own
city
workers
that
are
being
violated.
C
Well,
that's
a
labor
question.
Okay
and
so
the
office
of
labor
relations
would
better
be
able
to
answer
that
than
I.
I
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
and
then
my
last
question
is
in
regards
to.
Can
you
talk
to
us
about
how
many
cases
in
regards
to
the
boston
police
department
you,
your
team
is,
is
right
now
litigating.
If
that's
the
word
for
this,
I
don't
know
what
what
it's
called
but
sure.
C
Yeah,
I
think
I'd
ask
susan
wisey
to
respond.
G
Hi,
thank
you,
counselor
we're
currently
representing
about
50
boston,
police
officers,
and
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it's
50
cases,
because
most
of
the
cases
involve
multiple
defendants.
So
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
and
again
I
can
get
you
a
solid
number
very
easily
tomorrow,
but
it's
probably
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
38..
I
G
Mean
for
settlement-
or
I
wouldn't
know
that
off
the
top
of
my
head-
that's,
I
could
probably
get
you
that
very
easily
as
well
tomorrow,
okay,.
J
Good
morning,
madam
chair
and
to
my
colleagues
and
to
henry
and
his
team
and
henry
who's
been
super
responsive,
not
just
now,
but
over
the
years
and
so
talent
and
a
caliber
of
attorney
working
on
behalf
of
the
residents
and
in
the
corporation
here
in
the
city.
With
that,
I
just
want
a
couple
quick
questions.
I
want
to
get
a
breakdown
of
of
the
execution
of
court
sister
and
also
how
many
cases
do
we
try
versus
do
we
farm
out
to
outside
council
to
try
it?
J
I
think
they're
they're
they're
a
may
lie
an
issue
in
terms
of
if
our
sort
of
younger
assistant
or
associate
corporate
corporate
councils
are
not
getting
any
trial
experience.
J
That
may
be
also
a
reason
why
they
leave
us
in
big
numbers,
so
just
a
sort
of
a
thought,
but
just
a
quick
breakdown
of
execution
of
courts
as
to
how
many
settlements
or
how
many
judgments
in
this
year,
and
also
how
many
cases
did
we
as
in
the
city
of
boston,
you,
your
lawyers
tried
versus
we
engaged
outside
council
and
what
was
the
outside
council
bill
this
year?
Okay,.
G
As
far
as
the
last
year,
as
as
you
must
appreciate
since
the
beginning
of
march
of
2020
to
this
moment
in
time,
have
been
no
jury
trials
because
the
court
systems
have
basically
been
shut
down,
they
are
just
now
trying
to
ramp
up.
They
will
have
a
much
better
success
in
the
federal
district
court
than
they
will
in
suffolk
superior
I'm
sure,
but
we
we
have
a
couple
of
trial
dates
towards
the
end
of
the
year.
Jury.
G
Trial
dates
be
curious
to
see
if
it
actually
happens,
but
you
know
for
the
last
year
there's
been
no
jury
trials.
We've
had
a
lot
of
zoom
type
periods
and
we've
actually
had
a
couple
of
zoom
bench
trials
but
no
jury
trials.
We
try
as
many
cases
as
we
possibly
can
and
again.
A
lot
of
that
depends
on
the
court
schedule.
Some
years
we
tried
15
16
jury
trials.
Other
years
we
try
three
just
because
of
the
court
system
and
how
they
schedule
their
life
around
us.
G
But
we
try
as
much
as
we
can.
The
litigators
try
and
a
lot
of
cases,
and
most
of
them
tend
to
be.
You
know
the
auto
collision
cases,
which
are
not
that
difficult,
frankly,
they're,
a
two
or
three
day,
jury
trial.
It's
the
best
way
for
somebody
to
get
their
feet
wet.
We
try
pothole
cases,
which
is
probably
even
a
one
day,
if
not
just
a
few
hour,
jury
trial.
Again,
it's
a
great
trains,
training
tool.
G
We
do
try
our
police
misconduct
cases
in
other
kinds
of
cases,
all
the
time
in
federal
district
court
when
life
is
normal
and
it's
it's
usually
two
of
us.
So
even
if
it's
a
younger
attorney,
there's
always
somebody
else.
Who's
got
more
experience
sitting
with
them,
so
we
try
most
of
our
cases
by
ourselves.
I
mean
on
occasion
something
goes
outside
council,
yes,
but
95
of
the
time
city,
boston,
law,
department,
that's
trying
cases.
J
It's
very
good,
and
then
so
obviously,
the
execution
of
courts
based
on
the
courts
being
closed.
We
should
see
the
city
at
least
our
coffee
should
see
a
significant
change
in
a
projection
in
that
front
and
then
similar
to
how
our
law
schools,
partner
with
our
district
attorney's
offices
and
303
certifieds.
Do
we
have
any
opportunity
to
partner?
We
get
some
of
the
best
law
schools
right
here
in
boston,
yes,
and
some
of
the
the
best
future
legal
mind.
J
So
is
there
an
opportunity
with
respect
to
a
deficiency
and
staffing
as
to
whether
we
can
partner
with
some
of
our
law
schools,
to
see
if
we
can
get
some
third-year
law
students,
for
example,
under
some
type
of
certification,
like
303
certified
in
the
da's
office
to
get
you
know,
get
some
help,
but
also
get
them
some
some
training
and
experience.
C
We
do
have
a
relationship
with
some
of
the
law
schools
for
clerks.
We
do
generally
have.
I
think
we
have
two
clerks
this
summer
and
we
have
had
up
to
five
in
in
past
years,
so
we
we
do
have
relationships
in
that.
In
that
sense,
we
also
hire
our
paralegals
for
the
most
part
from
law
schools
and
when
these
paralegals
they're
generally
evening
students
when
they
graduate,
we
are
usually
able
to
offer
them
a
position
which
is
a
win-win
for
everybody.
C
They
know
the
culture
of
the
department,
we
know
their
work
ethic
and
they've
been
they've,
been
trained
well
by
by
our
council.
J
We've
been
just
lastly
henry
and
is
the
longest-serving
member
and
I've
served
with
several
corporation
councils.
Some
have
been
sort
of
more
active
if
you
will,
by
engaging
in
the
council
and
coming
down
to
the
chamber
if
necessary,
and
then
we've
seen
some
that
do
not
do
that,
so
I
don't
know
sort
of
how
you
envision
your
role,
but
I
know
that
there
are
time
to
time.
You
know
things
matters
pop
up
on
the
council,
where
you
know
where
we
need
the
corporation
council.
We
need
that
partnership.
J
We
need
that
advice
and
in
some
instances
we
may
even
need
some
legal
expertise
at
a
particular
hearing,
and
it
just
seems
that
it's
been
ebbs
and
flows
in
my
my
tenure
here
at
city
hall,
some
have
sort
of
been
more
active
and
engaging
than
others
and
just
didn't
know
whether
you
could
give
us
a
sense
and
turns
under
your
leadership
but
we'll
which,
which
we
expect
from
our
corporation
council
in
terms
of
when
issues
arise
and
or
if
we
need
an
opinion
or
if
we
need
some
type
of
engagement
or
support
or
or
testimony
to
hearing.
J
What
will
you
endure?
You
allow
your
team
to
do.
Thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
madam
chair
and
I'll
listen
to
the
answer.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Council
flaherty,
you
know
under
the
city
code.
I
think
it's
5-5
5.8
8.5.
If
the
council
votes
for
an
opinion
of
the
corporation
council,
then
we
will
furnish
an
opinion.
You
know.
One
of
the
dangers
I
see
is
is
somebody
testifying
and
they
may
not
have
had
the
opportunity
to
do
a
thorough
research
and
all
of
a
sudden
what
said
has
taken
his
gospel.
I
wish
I
were
infallible.
I'm
not.
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
You
know,
I
appreciate
that
and
that's
what
you've
always
you're
stickler
for
sort
of
a
procedure
and-
and
you
know
the
the
chatter,
arguably
probably
better
than
than
anyone
in
terms
of
your
engagement
with
it.
So
I
just
have
seen
a
variation
over
the
years
of
corporation
council.
Some
come
down,
some,
don't
some,
and
I
get
your
point
in
terms
of
just
sort
of
following
procedure
and
if
we
need
an
opinion,
there's
a
formality
and
there's
a
process
by
which
we
can
get
an
opinion.
J
And
so
I
appreciate
that
thanks
henry
thanks
for
the
work,
you
do
and
appreciate
the
partnership
that
we
do
enjoy
with
you
and
your
team
thanks
man.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
flaherty
councillor
campbell
and
then
councilor
edwards.
K
Thank
you
councillor
bach,
for
your
continued
leadership
and
thank
you,
of
course,
to
the
entire
legal
department
for
the
work
you
guys
do.
We
are
frequently
in
contact.
I
was
just
at
city
hall
and
ran
into
adam.
So
it's
great
to
see
you
all.
I
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
I'll,
keep
it
short
and
sweet
because
I
know
there
are
other
city
employees
waiting
to
get
on
and
do
their
presentations.
K
One
is
just
a
follow-up
on
some
questions.
I
think
that
were
already
asked
around
if
we
could
get
a
list
of
the
cases
or
settlements
not
just
for
the
police
department,
but
other
departments
as
well
like
do
that
through
the
the
chair.
Don't
need
a
question
on
that
and
then
the
second
question
hester.
Maybe
it's
a
little
connected
to
councillor
flaherty's
point
what
the
decision-making
process
is
when
deciding
to
outsource
it
to
a
law
department
for
assistance
with
a
case,
and
so
what
that
process
is?
C
Right
so
I
I
will
ask
susan
and
adam
to
to
weigh
in
here
because
it's
a
it's
a
collaborative
decision
generally.
If
there
is
a
and
a
level
of
expertise
in
a
particular
area
of
the
law
that
we
just
don't
have
the
bandwidth
to
handle
inside,
we
would
send
it
out.
For
example,
there
are
a
number
of
real
estate
deals
where
the
city
may
be
offloading
a
property
where
we
would
want
someone
who
has
had
extensive
real
estate
experience
to
represent
us
there.
C
C
C
Of
of
the
decision
making,
if
adam
or
susan
wanted
to
add
to
after
that.
G
You
know
that
it's
it's,
I
guess
it's
fairly
simple.
When
something
comes
in,
at
least
from
from
my
folks,
it's
typically
a
conflict
of
interest
in
representing
too
many
defendants
on
on
our
side.
You
know
we
have
a
few
law
firms
that
have
been
doing
this
kind
of
it's
usually
police.
These
cases,
sometimes
employment
cases.
We
have
law
firms
that
have
been
dealing
with
these
areas
of
law,
they're
very
specialized
they're.
Very
nuanced.
You
need
somebody
that
knows
what
they're
talking
about
when
they
go
into
federal
district
court.
G
I
have
a
list
of
folks
I
will
go
in
and
I
will
typically
ask
the
corporation
council.
I
will
describe
what
the
conflict
of
interest
is
and
say
you
know:
can
this
person
hasn't
worked
for
us
for
a
year
or
so
do
you
want
to
put
them
on
the
case?
You
want
to
put
somebody
else
on
the
case
and
that's
typically
how
it
how
it's
done,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
I
typically
don't
have
the
kinds
of
cases
with
the
funky
expertise
that
henry
is
speaking
of.
G
G
L
G
And
you
know
we
also
rely
on
some
firms
because
much
much
like
our
staff
salary,
our
outside
council
hourly
rate,
is
low.
We
have
gone
low
by
market
standards,
not
low
by
me,
but
locally
market
standards,
and
sometimes
you
know
we
have
gone
to
a
firm
and
they
were
like
we're
not
well.
I've
had
this
happen
to
to
me
a
couple
of
times.
G
We're
not
going
to
take
the
case
because,
frankly,
working
for
you
is
is
a
loss
of
money
for
us
because
they,
due
to
the
hourly
rate,
it's
it's
at
this
moment
in
time.
I
believe
it's
235
dollars
an
hour
which
anybody
that
works
in
the
legal
field
knows
is,
is
very
low.
I
mean
it's
a
government,
it's
a
government
ranks
some
people
don't
mind,
but
I
can
tell
you
a
lot
of
folks
do
and
so
it's
difficult
it's
difficult
to
find.
Folks.
C
And
and
in
terms
of
how
we
select
many
of
our
our
firms
or
many
of
the
cases
that
we
send
out,
have
gone
to
former
assistant
corporation
council
again,
I'm
I
was
talking
about
sami
nabalsi
who
who
got
the
was
handling
the
long
island
bridge
case
for
us
and
and
related
matters.
Environmental
matters,
as
well
as
just
one
example.
G
We
have
we
have.
We
have
a
couple
of
those
folks
that
you
know
used
to
work,
for
they
have
a.
They
have
a
wonderful
foundation
of
knowledge
in
this
area
and
they
can
handle
these
cases.
They
don't
have
to
spend
months
researching
and
coming
up
to
speed.
They
know
the
area
of
law,
they
know
where
to
go,
how
to
get
there
and
and
to
try
these
cases
in
federal
district
court.
They
have
experience
in
federal
district
court.
A
lot
of
folks
do
not
so
it's
it.
You
know
it's
it's.
K
B
B
Oh,
no,
that's
fine!
We,
we
probably
have
a
little
bit
less
on
our
side,
although,
like
like
susan
mentioned
it,
it
comes
up
like,
for
example,
some
telecom
stuff
that
we
needed
help
with
the
opioid
litigation
things
where
we
really
just
don't
have
the
expertise.
B
I
will
say
in
the
in
the
opioid
litigation
situation,
because
it's
because
we
had
no
sort
of
exposure
to
to
these
types
of
firms
going
into
this,
we
actually
did
do
a
fairly
long
public
procurement
process
to
sort
of
identify
that
outside
counsel,
but
that's
probably
not
the
norm.
K
Thank
you
and,
and
my
last
question
I'll
leave
it
with
the
chair.
Who
can
ask
it
at
any
point
in
terms
of
the
next
rounds?
It's
just
if
there's
ever
been
any
thought
around
the
appointment
process
for
the
corporation
council.
Obviously
right
now,
it's
exclusively
the
appointment
of
the
mayor.
You
know
other
municipalities,
do
it
differently,
so
just
curious
if
there's
been
any
discussion
or
thought
around
council
playing
a
a
role
in
that
or
or
not.
C
C
M
You
so
I'll,
just
echo
the
same
request
for
the
list
of
pending
cases
and
settlements
in
terms
of
how
much
is
as
well
how
many
of
the
cases
we
are
paying
out
on.
You
know
we
also
the
article
last.
Was
it
last
year,
a
year
or
two
ago,
about
a
settlement
or
case
that
the
law
department
chose
to
appeal
and
what
wasn't
a
settlement?
I
think
it
was
an
outright
loss
and
then,
ultimately
we're
paying
30
million
dollars.
M
I
think
to
a
city
employee
we've
chosen
to
appeal
cases
from
the
bfd
from
the
boston
fire
department
and
lost
those
cases
as
well.
So
I
I'm.
I
would
like
a
list
of
those
cases
that
are
pending
those
racial,
especially
the
racial
discrimination
the
sexual
harassment
police
is
pending
and
whether
the
city
in
its
defense,
I
think
I'd
like
a
little
bit
more
analysis
about
when
we
choose
to
go
ahead
and
appeal
that
case
and
when
it
makes
sense
to
just
let
it
go.
M
M
I
know
counselor
michia
talked
about
city
employees
and
whatnot,
there's
nothing,
I'm
sure
more
frustrating
than
to
be
a
city
employee
and
to
have
you
know
the
city
in
its
defense
against
you
continue
to
appeal
or
continue
to
push
on
or
continue
to
drag
out
a
case
when,
if
they
had
just
simply
settled
and
admitted
essentially
that
could
have
done
better
might
have
been
cheaper
for
us.
In
the
end,
that's.
M
G
The
top
of
my
head
cases
in
the
appeals,
courts-
probably
very
very
few
and
as
far
as
anything
coming
down
the
road
I
I
wouldn't
know
right
now
I
mean
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
decided
down
the
road
at
some
point
in
time.
I
would
also
just
like
to
point
out
with
the
settlements,
I'm
not
sure
how
many
years
you're
looking
for.
I
also
think
it's
important
to
note
that
this
is
not
something
we
control.
G
When
a
case
comes
to
a
resolution.
I
guess
you
know
it'd
be
easier.
To
give
an
example.
For
the
year
2019,
we
could
have
settled
cases
that
cost
five
million
dollars,
because
we
had
one
big
case
that
settled
for
three
million
the
next
year.
You
might
have
cases
that
only
settle
for
250
000..
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
we
did
a
much
better
job
the
next
year.
It
just
means
that,
because
of
the
court
schedule
and
the
litigation
schedule,
this
is
when
a
case
comes
to
resolution.
G
So
when
you're
asking
for
cases
over
years,
we
can
definitely
definitely
get
you
that
number,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
one
year
is
better
than
the
next
or
worse
than
the
next.
It's
just
when
the
case
is
coming
to
sort
of
its
end
and
it
and
you're
in
the
resolution
phase,
whether
it's
a
settlement
or
a
jury
verdict.
M
Right
and
then
obviously
the
I
think,
a
cost
comparison
right
so
when
we
chose
to
appeal
and
what
that
cost
in
terms
of
litigation
and
defense
and
then,
ultimately,
when
we
in
terms
of
what
the
city
had
to
pay
out,
maybe
it
would
have
been
obviously
cheaper
to
settle
earlier.
M
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
know
was
whether,
because
there's
an
inch
for
folks
who
are
watching
there's
an
interesting
dynamic
between
the
the
law
department
and
the
city
council,
in
one
vein,
they
do
defend
us
so
people
they
defend
us
right
in
terms
of
if
the
city
council
is
is
sued
and
the
other
vein.
The
law
department
is
not
neutral.
M
When
it
comes
to
its
policy
positions
right,
it
is,
we
disagree,
oftentimes,
and
sometimes
what
I
find
frustrating
is
that
the
law
department's
legal
opinion
is
very
much
and
rightfully
so
in
defense
of
the
mayor
or
in
defense
of
the
head
of
the
city
at
the
time.
So
we
are
disagreeing
policy
wise,
but
when
the
law
department
speaks,
it
speaks
as
though
it's.
M
This
is
the
legal
opinion
and
though
it's
almost
like
a
judicial
opinion
like
there's
a
neutrality
to
it,
and
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
for
me
and
other
city
councillors
is
when
there's
a
policy
decision
and
it's
just
a
disagreement
versus
a
actual
legal
neutral.
There's
no
other
way
to
see
this
kind
of
of
of
a
way,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
a
good
example
of
this.
Maybe
it's
the
fair
work
week,
example
or
when
we
were
going
back
and
forth
over
the
charter.
M
It's
just
those
moments
where
I
think
it
should
just
be
very
clear.
There's
a
there's,
a
policy
and
defense
for
the
mayor
coming
through
this
opinion
versus
this
is
just
a
neutral.
This
is
how
how
how
this
happens
so
I'll.
Just
note
that,
as
as
a
city
counselor,
and
maybe
that's
because
you've
never
had
this
many
annoying
amount
of
lawyers
on
the
city
council
to
go
back
and
forth,
I'm
I'm
sure
I'll
say
it.
M
I'm
sure
it's
got
to
be
annoying
as
all
hell,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
think
that
you
know
that's
a
frustration
on
the
other
end
of
this,
because
I'm
like
this
is
sometimes
this
is.
This
is
a
this
is
a
an
opinion
that
favors
the
mayor
versus
an
illegal
just
this
is
this
is
the
a
side.
This
is
the
b
side.
So
I
think
that
that's
a
frustration
that
I
I
have
and
I
think
that
it
would.
It
would
serve
us
better
if
it
was
this.
M
If
in
the
opinions
it
was,
this
is
the
a
side.
This
is
the
b
side,
the
legal
department-
or
you
know,
maybe
yeah
so
that
I'll
just
I'll
just
say
that,
because
there
are
times
even
on
you
know,
when
there's
we,
we
even
like,
for
example,
with
the
transfer
fee
we
even
after
we
got
through
here.
We
were
both
looking
at
this,
and
this
is
a
this
is
a
and
we
both
were
like
yeah
after
the
first
two
million
dollars.
M
I
was
like
no
add
two
million
dollars
to
determine
when
the
transfer
fee
kicked
in.
So
I
just
there's
there's
times
where
I
think
in
terms
of
the
pushback,
that
we
should
be
more
clear
of
where
the
policy
is
ending
in
the
defense
of
the
mayor
right
and
where
it's
just.
This
is
the
a
and
b
part.
My
other
point
that
I'd
like
to
make-
and
I
would
ask,
is:
do
you
apply
the
boston
residency
job
policy
to
when
you're
looking
for
outside
counsel.
C
C
Oh,
I
see,
I
see,
yeah
no,
no
they're
contract
employees,
they're
kind
of
not
employees,
they're,
they're
contractors,
independent.
So.
M
I,
having
worked
at
a
law
firm
right.
I
worked
at
one
of
the
larger
law
firms.
The
the
way
in
which
those
law
firms
were
becoming
more
diverse
was
the
demands
of
in-house
council
and
city
governments
and
other
places
like
that.
That
basically
said
we're
not
going
to
contract
with
you
unless
you
are
more
diverse
unless
you
are
recruiting
unless
you
are
pulling
in
people
directly
to
your
law
firm.
M
Now
those
are
minimums,
of
course,
and
that's
in
the
trade
perspective,
but
we've
spoken
morally
that
we
believe
our
money
should
be
going
toward
diverse
things.
So
so,
if
you're,
not
applying
that,
do
you
ask
or
make
demands
on
your
outside
counsel
that
they
support
or
that
they
show
their
diversity.
C
Nothing
I'm
aware
of
I.
I
have
not.
M
So
what
what
would
that?
What
would
that
policy?
Look
like
I'd
like
to
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
policy
for
when
you
are
putting
out
contracts
for
outside
counsel
to
take
on
our
cases
with
our
city
money?
M
What
would
that
look?
Like
I
mean
I.
I
actually
think
that
you
know
the
the
boston
residency
job
policy
may
not
be
as
necessary
in
terms
of
residency
of
living
in
the
city
of
boston.
L
M
A
lot
of
law
firms
recruit
from
the
entire
state,
but
in
terms
of
women
and
people
of
color.
C
Yeah,
you
know
it's
interesting.
Many
of
our
the
firms
that
we
contract
with
are
our
women
are
the
principal
partners
and
we've
used
them
and
I'm
thinking
of
of
k,
hodge,
who
is
a
woman
of
color
who
had
a
stoneman,
chandler
and
fran
hogan
at
line
woodworth
and
everetts.
We
use
for
real
estate,
who
is
obviously
a
woman.
Sammy
nabolsi
is
a
palestinian
american
who
came
from
our
shop
and
who
has
been
doing
a
fantastic
job
on
the
on
the
on
the
long
island
bridge
case.
M
M
For
me,
I'd
like
to
see
before
the
end
of
this
budget
process,
your
new
policy
for
diversity
and
in
terms
of
who
you
will
contract,
with
with
my
tax
dollars
and
and
and
demanding
of
those
law,
firms
that
they
be
diverse
and
that
they
hire
diversity.
What
you're
not
getting
directly,
you
should
be
getting
indirectly,
then,
and-
and
I'm
telling
you
it
works
when
coke
finally
said
we'll
be
damned
if
we
give
out
any
more
money
to
these
large
law
firms
that
are
predom.
I
see
your.
M
I
see
your
gavel
counselor
back,
but
I
mean
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
This
works
this
actually
works
to
help
our
legal
department
to
become
more
diverse.
I
was
the
first
black
associate
for
holland
a
night
summer
associate,
and
I
know
it
had
a
lot
to
do
with
the
demands
of
the
clients
of
the
firm.
M
C
M
A
You
thank
you
counselor
edwards,
I
I'll
just
put
a
few
more
things
on
the
docket,
but
I'm
mindful
of
our
other
departments,
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
let
law
go.
So
if
somebody
has
a
burning
question
raise
your
blue
hand,
but
otherwise
I'm
gonna
just
put
a
couple
more
things
on
the
agenda
and
then
go
to
the
next
department,
so
definitely
we'll
be
following
up.
A
I
think
the
list
of
you
know
where
we
are,
what
you
know:
settlements
what's
in
appeal,
court,
what
you
know:
what's
our
total
numbers
that
we're
putting
out
for
outside
counsel,
I
think
folks
would
like
to
understand
that
kind
of
the
shape
of
things
in
law
on
that
front,
and
I
think-
and
I
do
just
want
to
emphasize
that
I
I
also
think
that
in
the
first
part,
in
addition
to
the
council,
edwards
is
pushed
just
now
on
the
question
of
diversity,
metrics
for
your
contracts.
I
think
that
part.
A
What
part
of
what
I
heard
her
pushing
for
was
like
a
little
bit
more
of
a
sense
that,
like
at
what
point,
in
terms
of
us
making
those
decisions
about
what
to
appeal
and
not
appeal
as
a
city?
At
what
point
do
we
decide
that
there's,
like
a
category
of
things,
we've
been
appealing
that
are
a
bad
bet
for
us
like
if
we've
had
a
department
that
has-
and
I
know
it's
your
guys
job
as
our
lawyers,
to
say
that
we've
that
our
departments
are
are
not
doing
these
things
and
defend
them.
A
But
if
we've
had
a
department,
that's
made
a
series
of
discriminatory
decisions,
for
instance,
and
you've
got
a
lot
of
cases
and
we're
just
losing
them.
Ultimately,
because,
like
you
know,
is
there?
Is
there
a
moment
where
the
law
department,
zooms
out
and
says
hey?
We
actually
think
like
we're,
just
not
winning
these
because
of
the
facts
on
the
ground,
and
so
at
some
point
we
it
might
be
in
our
interest
to
settle
instead
of
drive
everything
to
the
last
appeal.
That
was
just
I.
A
I
think
it's
also
a
question
that
I
have
and
if
you
have
any
thoughts
on
it,
henry
would
love
to
would
love
to
hear
them
the
so
that
and
then
I
just
want
to
I
want
to.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
henry
and
adam
and
team
I've
been
pushing.
A
I
don't
think
that
dcr
actually
has
the
right
to
put
meters
on
this
section
in
my
district,
and
so
we
don't
need
to
talk
about
it
now,
but
just
like
we'll
continue
to
follow
up
on
that
and
appreciate
your
guys's
work
and
the
diligence
of
the
team
on
that
front,
and
then,
in
addition
to
that
question
about
pellet,
that
you
know,
decisions
and
kind
of
assessing.
A
Overall
policy-wise,
where
we
are,
I
guess
my
one
other
question
henry,
and
this
is
its
niche
and
and
we
could
go
into
it
at
greater
length
later.
But
I've
become
concerned
about
the
fact
that
there
is
an
opinion
on
file.
I
think
by
you
that
the
city's,
not
on
the
hook
to
represent
the
groundwater
trust
in
cases
where
we,
where
they
you
know,
found
themselves
under
threat
of
litigation.
It
seems
to
me
like
in
the
history
of
how
that
has
been,
how
that's
been
set
up,
how
it's
funded
and
how
it's
intended.
A
While
it
is
quasi-independent.
It's
to
me
clearly
an
organ
of
the
city-
and
I
have
you
know
a
number
of
constitution,
because
my
constituency,
you
know,
is
a
lot
of
the
places
that
have
groundwater
challenges.
A
number
of
my
constituents
serve
on
that
board
and
I
think
asking
them
to
take
the
legal
liability
for
that.
That
situation
strikes
me
as
as
on
non-parallel
with
a
lot
of
the
other
boards.
We
have
so
we'd
love
to
hear
on
that
and
then
that
again
sort
of
echoing
counselor
edwards
on
that
appellate
question.
C
Okay,
thanks,
you
know,
maybe
we
could
on
the
appellate
question.
I
think
we'd
probably
have
to
regroup
and
and
get
you
something
the
groundwater
trust
one
of
my
favorite
boards.
I
worked
with
them
when
I
was
the
general
counsel,
water
and
sewer
for
18
years
and
worked
with
our
engineering
department
on
the
the
water
and
sewer
engineering
department
on
recharge
systems
in
on
back
street
in
in
the
back
bay
and
in
the
fenway
in
the
alley
off
hemingway
street,
and
I
think
they've
been
very
successful.
C
But
I
I've
been
through
this
with
chris
christian
siminelli
and
I'd
be
happy
to
go
through
it
with
you
as
well.
A
Great
well,
I
I
just
yeah,
I
I
would
love
to
go
through
it.
It
might
be
something
that
I
asked
my
council
colleagues
to
do
an
ordinance
on
or
something
I
just.
I
I
feel
like
it's
I
feel
like
well,
they
have
set
up
as
a
501c3
they're,
pretty
clearly,
not
a
non-profit
that
we
are
contracting
with
in
a
kind
of
traditional
sense.
So
I
will
but
another
conversation,
maybe
not
on
this
zoom
did
you
want
to
say
something.
A
Okay,
great
and
then
yeah
and
then
I'll
just
echo
again,
you
know,
I
think
that
the
I
think
that
we
all
know
that
to
susan's
point
about
multiple
defendants.
I
think
we
all
know
that
in
a
different
context.
The
mayor's
lawyers
would
be
conflicted
out
of
also
representing
the
city
council
on
a
number
of
the
things
where
we're
in
a
more
adversarial
relationship,
and
it
just
so
happens
that
by
charter-
that's
not
the
setup
and
so
you
know
counts.
Counselor
edwards
has
named
some
of
that
tension.
A
I
think
we
all
experience
it
when
we
have
disagreements
about
about
legislative
and
legal
matters,
and
you
know
I
think
I
think
you
know
that'll
continue
to
be
a
theme,
but
I
also
just
want
to
strongly
stress
how
much
we
appreciate
the
work
that
you
guys
do
representing
us
as
a
body
as
you
are
currently
actively
doing
and
and
representing
the
city
in
general.
So
you
know
it's.
I
hope
a
productive
tension
on
that
front,
but
just
don't
want
that
to
obscure
the
importance
of
your
work.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
and
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you.
A
A
Since
these
these
triple
hearings
are
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
a
logistical
challenge,
but
we
will
go
to
arts
and
culture
first,
and
I
think
I
let
me
just
pull
up
my
listing
here.
So
I
think
we'll
go
to
chief
eliot
ortega,
carly
ortega
as
our
chief
of
arts
and
culture,
and
I
think
I'll.
Let
her
introduce
her
team,
but
I
think
whether
is
nida
for
for
faria
and
karen
goodfellow
and
anyone
else
you
want
to
introduce
chief.
O
Hey,
thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
counselors,
it's
good
to
see
everyone.
Yes,
we
have
with
us
nida
faryar,
director
of
administration,
finance
and
karen
goodfellow,
our
director
of
public
art,
and
we
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
presentation.
We
will
try
to
go
quickly
through
it,
but
being
the
arts
office,
we
did
want
to
share
some
visuals
of
what
we
do
and
I'm
just
gonna
share
my
screen
here.
One.
O
A
O
A
O
Chief,
thank
you.
So
we
wanted
to
share
a
quick
overview
of
what
we've
been
doing.
Some
of
what's
happened
in
fy21
and
the
investments
that
are
coming
up
for
fy22
just
to
give
some
orientation
to
the
rest
of
our
office,
since
we
haven't
done
a
full
hearing
before
and
wanted
to
start
just
with
our
core
competencies,
beginning
with
direct
support.
So
almost
all
of
our
reopening
funds
in
the
mayor's
office
of
arts
and
culture
go
directly
to
artists
or
arts
and
cultural
organizations
through
grants
and
small
contracts.
O
O
Place-Based
cultural
work
includes
our
public
art
program,
which
you'll
hear
more
about
in
a
second
cultural
planning
and
place
keeping
work,
including
city
and
state
cultural
districts,
and
supporting
the
development
of
affordable
artists
like
workspaces,
convening
in
research,
to
support
the
cultural
sector
and
find
ways
to
move
important
conversations
forward.
As
you
can
imagine
this
last
year,
a
lot
of
that
has
been
about
covet
19,
including
how
arts
organizations
have
changed
their
business
models,
how
they're
continuing
to
serve
their
communities
when
forced
to
go
digital
and
cancel
events.
O
Communications
and
engagement:
this
is
not
just
the
marketing
of
arts
and
cultural
culture,
events
which
we
do,
but
also
how
our
office
communicates
the
importance
of
arts
and
culture
as
well
as
really
delving
into
new
creative
and
equitable
approaches
to
community
engagement
and
civic
participation
through
the
work
that
our
local
artists
do.
We
foster
partnerships
and
collaborations
that
create
new
resources,
pilot
new
ideas
and
address
important
issues
in
the
cultural
sector
and,
lastly,
management
of
spaces
and
events,
direct
management,
which
includes
the
strand,
theater
and
city
hall
galleries.
O
O
There
are
many
many
programs
grant
programs
like
you
see
here:
490
000
to
organizations
over
half
a
million
dollars
going
directly
to
artists
and
other
programs
that
you
might
be
familiar
with,
like
the
artist
resource
desk
and
our
poet
laureate
program,
which
we
just
added
a
youth
poet.
Laureate
to
this
year,
and
as
I
was
mentioning,
this
whole
year
has
been
as
with
everyone
and
everything,
a
pivot.
O
O
We
also
focused
on
cultural
and
racial
equity.
At
the
beginning
of
2020,
we
started
our
own
internal
equity
training
for
the
office,
working
as
a
team
to
create
equity
goals
for
for
our
office
and
also
for
how
we
work
collaboratively
towards
those
goals.
O
Following
the
uprisings
for
racial
justice
around
the
country,
we
helped
launch
the
cultural
equity
learning
community
led
by
arts
connect
international,
and
this
was
an
online
learning
community
open
to
arts
and
culture
leaders
committed
to
building
racial
equity
in
the
sector,
and
this
was
all
online
you'd
go
at
your
own
pace,
curriculum
that
included
peer
groups
and
other
kinds
of
supports,
and
you
can
see
the
numbers
here
on
on
the
uptake
of
this,
which
was
overwhelming.
O
O
This
year
we
also
kicked
off
the
first
year
of
the
radical
imagination
for
racial
justice
grant
and
partnership
with
mass
college
of
art
and
design.
This
program
funds
bypac
artists,
to
imagine
what
a
racially
just
future
looks
like
in
partnership
with
their
communities.
It's
there's
some
really
exciting
work
being
done.
P
Thank
you,
chief
eliot
ortega
and
good
morning,
counselors,
I'm
karen
goodfellow,
director
of
public
art,
my
pronouns.
Are
she
her
and
hers,
and
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here
and
excited
to
get
to
share
a
little
bit
of
the
amazing
work.
We've
been
doing
with
you,
the
boston
artist
in
residence
program.
P
It's
an
artist,
residency
program
in
which
a
multi-disciplinary
cohort
of
artists,
which
includes
poets,
painters
and
drummers
collaborate
with
a
parallel
cohort
of
city
of
boston
partners
to
explore
critique
and
reimagine
city
initiatives
at
the
intersection
of
civil
service,
social
justice
and
artistic
practice
simply
put
through
by
austin
air.
We
are
compensating
artists
to
work
with
us
with
our
creative
and
generous
colleagues
in
various
city
departments
to
move
forward
and
align
our
city
thinking
and
actions
on
critical
equity
issues.
P
P
Golden
held
a
trans
and
non-binary
town
hall,
at
which
bostonians,
who
do
not
have
a
clear
department
to
turn
to
for
their
needs,
were
able
to
speak
to
their
experiences
and
name
ways.
The
city
can
better
support
transgender
and
non-binary
bostonians
erin
genia
working
with
the
office
of
emergency
management
developed
a
cultural
emergency
response.
She
states
that
the
crisis
we
are
experiencing,
like
climate
change
and
institutional
racism,
are
widespread
and
complex,
interconnected
and
expanding,
and
that
they
have
cultural
origins
as
part
of
her
work.
P
Next
slide,
please
cara
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
public
art.
We've
really
taken
this
year
to
renew
our
approach
to
public
art.
We
have
28
city-driven
projects
in
various
phases.
These
are
long-term
projects
that
last
over
five
years,
15
inactive
phases,
meaning
anywhere
from
artist
selection
to
installation
six
in
rfp
draft
five
under
construction
and
13.
These
projects
are
funded
through
the
percent
for
our
program
with
50
percent
of
those
percent
contracts
with
minority
and
women
business
enterprises.
P
With
all
of
these
incredible
projects,
we
are
very
happy
that
we'll
be
able
to
have
a
senior
public
art
project
manager
in
the
fy
22
budget.
We
have
also
continued
with
the
transformative
public
art
program
in
summer
2020.
We
supported
over
20
projects
that
created
opportunities
for
celebration,
connection
and
wellness
that
challenged
our
understanding
of
forms
of
public
art
could
take
by
including
web-based
and
socially
distanced
projects.
P
P
This
is
north
square
stories
by
ann
hirsch
and
jeremy
andrew
and
that's
in
the
north
end.
This
is
within
web
by
matthew,
hintzman
in
jamaica
plain.
P
P
This
is
memory
diffusion,
also
at
the
boston
arts
academy
by
massari
studios
in
fenway.
This
is
hide
square,
an
artwork
by
christina
pereno
in
jamaica
plain,
this
is
unes
mundus
by
monica.
Bravo
at
the
east
boston
police
station.
P
P
This
is
a
portfolio
for
destiny,
palmer,
who's,
doing
an
interior
piece
at
the
vine
street
community
center
in
roxbury.
P
And
these
are
some
artworks
that
will
end
up
at
city
hall
on
the
elevators,
so
the
the
two
at
the
top
of
the
final
design.
The
third
is
a
draft
bud
working
with
destiny,
palmer,
maya,
early
and
lily.
She
and
crystal
b
wagner.
P
This
is
work
by
jenny,
savin's
studio,
who
is
doing
the
ruggles
corridor
integrated
artwork
and
this
next
group.
These
are
community
initiated
projects
which
were
started
by
community
groups,
and
we
are
happy
that
we
are,
you
know,
funded
to
support
these
projects,
both
in
staff
time
and
through
through
capital
funds
this
year.
P
P
And
here
we
have
the
frederick
douglass
legacy
project
with
mario
chiodo,
paul
goodnight
and
sasaki
associates
by
the
douglas
memorial
sculpture
committee,
and
this
is
bookmarked
at
the
mattapan
branch
of
the
boston
public
library,
with
stu
schechter,
and
here
we
have
emergent
memory
by
recite,
and
that
is
in
bay,
village.
This
is
the
coconut
grove
memorial
and,
lastly,
we
have
the
embrace
with
hank
willis
thomas,
which
will
be
on
the
boss
in
common.
P
We're
in
the
process
of
creating
a
database
of
the
city's
art
collection,
in
addition
to
having
a
comprehensive
archive
that
will
facilitate
maintenance
in
research
and
various
analyses.
The
project
will
include
a
searchable
database
that
will
be
going
live
this
spring
with
a
mapping
component
available
in
the
summer
of
2021.
P
In
anticipation
of
public
access
to
information
about
the
collection,
we've
launched
a
map
on
our
website
that
identifies
public
murals
in
boston,
we're
continuing
to
make
additions.
We've
been
working
with
our
colleagues
in
doit
on
this
project
through
their
storymap
program
and
are
super
excited
about
sharing
it
out,
but
this
is
only
a
fraction
of
the
collection
that
will
be
accessible
this
summer
through
the
database
and
e-museum.
We're
also
happy
to
be
able
to
care
for
our
collection.
P
We
invest
in
public
art
conservation.
This
funding
ensures
that
the
works
can
continue
to
be
enjoyed
over
time
and,
lastly,
in
response
to
a
national
dialogue
and
local
demand
for
dialogue
in
our
public
monuments,
we
held
public
meetings.
Over
the
summer
we
shared
information
online
created
a
survey
and
collected
written
testimony.
We
prioritized
creating
opportunities
for
bostonians
to
really
listen
and
understand
each
other,
even
when
they
did
not
agree
and
ultimately
voted
to
to
remove
the
emancipation
group
from
display
in
park
square,
and
with
that
I
will
pass
to
united.
L
Hi,
my
name
is
naida
farya,
I'm
the
director
of
administration
and
finance,
and
this
year
for
the
strand
theater
in
2020,
has
remained
pretty
much
dark,
with
the
exception
of
coven
vaccines
and
testing,
so
for
fy22
we're
looking
forward
in
partnering
with
small
local
art
organizations
for
programming
at
the
strand,
and
this
would
include
of
a
number
of
dollars
going
into
boston,
art
organizations
and
artists
increase
the
stability
of
small
arts
organizations
that
have
been
impacted
by
covert.
L
This
will
also
create
youth
jobs,
especially
youth
of
color,
and
it
will
also
increase
jobs
for
each
production
that
happens
on
the
strand
and
increase
the
number
of
our
target
audience
and
also
bring
some
economic
development
to
the
uplands
corners
area.
O
Lastly,
our
largest
proposed
investment
for
fy22
is
focused
on
supporting
arts
recovery,
specifically
job
opportunities
and
training
for
artists,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
this
year
has
been
incredibly
hard
for
creative
workers,
and
yet
we
know
that
artists
are
really
uniquely
qualified
to
help
us
with
so
many
of
the
issues
that
we're
facing
as
a
city,
whether
that
be
fighting
social
isolation,
the
need
for
connection
enjoy
more
equitable
community
engagement
and
outreach,
so
we're
working
on
a
process
for
these
funds
of
supporting
hiring
artists
as
a
part
of
the
city's
recovery,
including
providing
training
for
city
staff
who
want
to
incorporate
artists
into
their
work
and
training
for
the
artists
who
want
to
be
prepared
to
apply
for
those
jobs,
and
that
is
it
for
us.
O
We're
really
excited
about
the
continued
investments
in
the
arts
and
appreciate
the
time
to
share
some
overview
here.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
cara
for
that
excellent
presentation.
I
would
love
it
if,
if
you
all
could
send
it
over
our
way,
if
you
haven't
already
send
it
via
obm
or
chantal,
or
just
straight
to
michelle,
goldberg
that'd
be
great
and
now
we're
gonna.
I'm
gonna
go
straight
to
kate
davis,
the
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
sports
of
tourism,
sports
and
entertainment,
who
I
think
has
brought
sean
o'connor
her
director
of
a
f
and
midori
murakawa
who's.
A
The
oh
well
midori
is
midori
with
us,
no
missouri's,
not
here
tonight.
Okay,
I
thought
not
okay,
so
I
was
going
to
say
I
should
go
to
midori
first,
if
she's
scared,
if
he's
not
we'll
we'll,
go
to
you
kate,
so
I'm
grateful
to
have
you
here
so
and
thanks
for
waiting,
I
know
I
know
this
is
a
triple
hearing
like
this
is
a
bit
of
a
slog.
So
thanks
for
being
here,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Q
Good
morning,
everyone
for
those
who
don't
know
me,
my
name
is
kate
davis,
I'm
the
director
of
the
mayor's
office
of
tourism,
sports
and
entertainment.
Our
mission
is
to
advance
tourism
in
boston
and
promote
participation
in
public
celebrations
from
boston
residents
and
visitors
to
our
city.
We
support
the
tourism
industry
in
boston
by
producing
and
supporting
diverse
events
in
every
neighborhood,
supporting
film
and
tv
production
and
marketing
the
city
to
conventions
and
visitors
in
fy21.
Q
Unfortunately,
due
to
the
kobit
19
pandemic,
tourist
attractions
were
forced
to
close
their
doors
and
numerous
conventions
and
public
events
had
to
cancel
or
postpone.
Tourism
is
one
of
boston's
most
important
industries.
We
lost
about
70
percent
of
our
forecasted
visitors
last
year,
due
to
covet
and
pre-covered,
roughly
10
of
jobs
in
greater
boston
came
from
the
sector,
while
it
also
contributed
to
supporting
our
cultural
and
historic
preservation.
Q
Building
the
sector
backed
up
is
crucial
to
boston's
future.
In
spite
of
the
pandemic,
our
office
still
celebrated
holidays
and
tried
to
provide
entertainment
to
the
residents
of
boston.
Our
top
accomplishments.
For
this
past
year
is
fans,
tourism,
sports
and
entertainment
tourism.
In
terms
of
tourism,
we
launched
a
major
tourism
campaign
and
provided
extensive
outreach
to
the
tourism
sector.
At
the
same
time,
our
all-inclusive
campaign,
which
we
just
launched
this
past
april,
when
we
as
a
city,
started
to
work
on
reopening
we
plan
to
build
the
city
back
stronger
and
more
equitably.
Q
This
was
the
largest
contract
the
city
has
awarded
to
a
minority
woman-owned
business.
We
also
provided
a
lot
of
outreach
to
the
tourism
sector.
As
previously
mentioned,
kova
19
had
has
had
a
devastating
effect
on
the
tourism
industry,
with
information
constantly
changing
the
office
of
tourism,
sports
and
entertainment
became
a
hub
for
information
seekers
and
a
resource
for
guiding
our
tourism
stakeholders.
Through
unprecedented
times.
Q
We
are
working
on
various
sports
related
initiatives,
including
the
boston
sports,
walk,
we're
in
the
process
of
planning
a
boston
sports,
walk
a
walking
trail
connecting
important
sports
history
sites
through
the
city
of
boston.
We
are
currently
developing
content
for
the
walk
with
our
external
partners
with
an
equity
lens,
the
boston
marathon.
Q
I
sat
on
the
boston,
the
baa's
covid
19
task
force
to
navigate
the
process
of
figuring
out
whether
the
event
could
continue
be
postponed
or
cancelled
when
the
decision
was
made
to
postpone.
We
resumed
our
monthly
meetings
of
the
operations
committee
to
help
plan
the
october
11th
event,
world
cup
2026.
Q
Our
office
continues
to
work
with
the
craft
group
on
their
bid
to
host
the
2026
world
cup
at
gillette
stadium
and,
finally,
the
labor
cup.
This
is
a
global
tennis
tournament
that
was
postponed
this
year
and
we're
continuing
to
work
with
their
leadership
team
to
ensure
that
boston's,
local
tennis
community
is
engaged
and
represented
in
the
planning
process.
For
this
falls
event.
Q
Finally,
entertainment.
The
entertainment
category
encompasses
our
work
with
the
film
industry
as
well
as
free
and
family-friendly
virtual
and
covert
aware
events
that
we
produce.
As
far
as
film
industry
goes.
We
have
allowed
film
to
take
place
in
the
city
of
boston
during
the
coven
19
pandemic,
in
accordance
with
public
health
guidelines.
The
film
bureau
works
closely
with
the
boston
public
health
commission
to
review
both
coveted
safety,
narratives
and
site
plans
to
ensure
they
meet
boston
standards
before
bringing
the
application
to
the
film
committee
for
review.
Q
Thus
far,
we've
been
able
to
successfully
guide
major
production
companies,
national
and
local
commercials,
television
shows
and
small
and
student
documentaries
through
the
process
for
virtual
and
covert
aware
events,
the
office
of
tourism,
sports
and
entertainment
produced
and
supported.
Many
free
events
throughout
the
city
highlights
include
the
boston,
social
fitness
festival,
our
virtual
gospel
fest,
the
virtual
boston
pride.
We
did
a
drive-in
movie,
theater
a
drive-in
movie
series
virtual
friday
afternoon
concerts
and
we
did
a
holiday
gift
by
distribution
to
children
across
the
city.
In
lieu
of
the
mayor's
enchanted
trolley
tour.
Q
Throughout
the
pandemic
we
have
continued
to
market
boston
as
a
tourist
and
film
destination,
we've
promoted
public
events
and
provided
free,
accessible
entertainment
in
the
coming
year.
We
will
continue
to
work
with
numerous
city
departments,
the
mass
office
of
travel
and
tourism,
the
greater
boston
convention
and
visitors
bureau
and
our
local
neighborhood
community
groups
help
bring
events
to
the
city
for
residents
and
visitors.
Q
A
Great
fantastic,
thank
you
so
much
kate
and
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
top
of
the
order.
I'll
hold
my
questions
for
the
end,
so
I
think
counselor
flynn
is
first
and
then
it'll
be
counselor,
braden
counselor
flynn.
You
can
ask
questions
to
both
arts
and
tourism.
E
Okay,
okay,
thank
you,
council
board
chairboard,
thank
you
to
all
the
panelists
for
being
here
and
for
the
for
the
work
you're
doing.
I
just
want
to
see
what
type
of
in
the
arts
community
chief.
E
Obviously
it's
been
a
difficult
year
for
the
asian
and
asian
american
community
in
boston
as
well
a
week
you're
working
with
the
powwow
center
on
various
programs.
But
what
else
do
you
have
scheduled
in
the
future?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
as
this
as
we
go
forward
that
we
do
include
asian
artists
in
in
in
all
aspects
of
our
civic
life,
so
just
want
to
ask
what
your
opinion
is
on
how
we
move
forward
with
that.
O
Sure,
thank
you
for
that
question.
We
are
funding
various
asian
cultural
groups
in
boston
through
our
bcc
grants
this
year,
but
another's
been
specific
interest
in
trying
to
elevate
asian
american
culture,
artists
anti.
You
know
trying
to
really
highlight
artwork
that
fights
this
anti-asian
discrimination.
That's
going
on
right
now
and
there
have
been
different
campaigns
in
other
cities
that
have
done
that
with
artists,
and
I
think
bcnc
is
working
on
one
right
now
that
we'll
be
supportive
of
and
just
see
how
we
can
work
with
them
to
elevate
that
campaign.
O
So
we're
we're
supportive
of
various
efforts
going
on,
and
I
think
that
individual
artists
and
artwork
can
do
a
lot
to
to
elevate
the
visibility
of
that
community.
E
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
that's
an
important
issue
for
me
and
would
like
for
us
to
do
more
outreach
into
the
asian
community,
especially
in
arts
and
culture.
The
other.
The
other
question
I
have
is
what
type
of
outreach,
whether
it's
tourism
in
sports,
but
what
type
of
outreach
are
we
doing
to
residents
in
keeping
them
engaged
residents
in
public
housing?
E
E
I
represent
the
largest
number
of
public
housing,
we're
down
the
road
a
little
bit
from
the
boston
garden
might
as
well
be.
You
know,
10
000
miles
away
for
a
lot
of
these
young
people,
so
how
how
we
connecting
sports
professional
sports
with
with
residents
in
public
housing.
Q
Thank
you
councillor.
The
well
right
this
year
has
been
difficult
because
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
sporting
events,
but
whenever
we
have
an
opportunity
to
bring
people
in,
we
work
with
the
office
of
neighborhood
services
to
let
them
know.
For
example,
with
the
labor
cup
we've
been
working
with
tenacity
who
works
with
a
lot
of
kids
groups
and
bps
to
come
in
and
see
these
like
world
famous
players,
do
their
practices
and
for
any
opportunity
that
we
can
bring
in
especially
bps
kids.
Q
Then
that's
that's,
usually
what
we
do
as
far
as
celebrations
with
sports,
which
our
office
does
and
we've
had
the
great
opportunity
over
the
years
to
have
many
celebrations.
Those
you
know
are
open
to
everybody
in
the
city.
As
you
well
know,
people
line
the
streets
to
see
all
of
that,
but
if
we
ever
had,
you
know
a
famous
sports
person
that
was
going
to
come
to
the
city,
we
would
make
sure
to
do
outreach
to
all
the
neighborhoods
to
make
sure
everybody
had
equal
access
to
those
events.
E
Okay
and
my
final
question
before
I
make
one
more
comment:
what
type
of
outreach
are
we
doing
in
arts
and
culture
or
in
sports
to
people
that
don't
speak
english?
What
type
of
communication
are
we
having
with
them?
What
type
of
interaction
are
we
having
with
them
and
how?
How
are
we
engaging
with
them.
O
So
we
have
looked
at
how
we
can
translate
more
of
our
applications.
I
think
when
we're
thinking
about
communications
with
folks
who
don't
have
proficiency
in
particularly
in
writing,
something
in
english
we've
been
focusing
a
lot
on
access
to
our
funds.
So
we've
been
thinking
about
that
a
lot
through
how
we
can
actually
translate
applications
and
the
application
processes
that
we
have
available.
O
I
think
it's
been
challenging
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
do
that,
so
we
have,
in
the
past,
offered
applications
in
different
languages
and
made
them
available,
and
we
haven't
seen
huge
uptake
of
that.
So
I
think
that
that's
a
question.
That's
that's
ongoing
for
us
about
what
the
right
way
is
to
actually
make
sure
that
people
can
take
advantage
of
that,
or
I
think
it's
more
question
of
whether
people
feel
like
that's
something
for
them
that
they
can
that
they
can
use.
O
So
one
thing
that
we
have
talked
about
is
especially
with
the
boston
cultural
council.
Applications
is
the
idea
of
hiring
people
who
are
fluent
in
those
most
spoken
languages
to
actually
do
office
hours
with
people
where
they
help
them
directly
complete
an
application
in
their
own
language
and
can
answer
questions
about
the
process
and
the
funding
and
have
it
be
much
more
one-on-one
and
personal.
So
that's
that's
one
way
that
we've
been
thinking
about
language
access
and
I
don't
know
nida.
If
there's
anything,
you
would
want
to
add
to
that.
L
Sure,
and
and
some
occasion
there
has
been-
you
know-
a
resource
office
and
myself
and
another
staff
member
speak
spanish,
so
we
were
able
to
walk
them
through
the
application.
So
there
is,
we
have
staff
that
are
able
to
speak
in
another
language.
E
Okay
and
my
final,
my
final
comment
is:
could
I
ask
when
there
are
events
in
in
my
district
if
I
could
get
notified
beforehand,
because
I
would
like
to
let
my
constituents
know
about
them,
they
may
want
to
take
advantage
of
different
events
that
are
happening,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they
are
aware
of
them.
I
communicate
everything
all
my
messages
in
spanish.
I
communicate
all
my
messages
in
in
cantonese
as
well,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
my
residents
have
a
fear
shake
here
as
well.
E
Thank
you,
everybody
and
thank
you
for
the
great
work
that
you're
doing
on
behalf
of
the
residents
of
boston.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn
next
steps,
councillor
braden
and
then
it's
councillor,
mejia
councillor,
braden.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
everyone
for
your
presentation
this
morning.
Let's
start
with
arts
and
culture,
so
do
you?
Do
you
work
with
boston,
public
schools
to
showcase
the
work
of
young
artists
in
the
school
system.
O
Yes,
so
we
in
a
normal
year,
we
would
have
a
large
show
at
city
hall,
from
bps
schools
and
students
and
we're
actually
exploring
now
with
the
arts
team
at
bps.
If
there
are
kind
of
alternative
ways
that
we
can
do
that,
perhaps
even
using
storefronts
and
other
spaces
that
could
be
activated
so
we're
trying
to
find
ways
to
do
that.
You
know
in
covid
when
the
city
hall
is
not
able
to
be
as
publicly
accessible.
H
I
I
think,
it's
great,
that
you
have
it
shown
in
city
hall,
but
I
also
feel
that
especially
out
here
in
austin,
brighton
people
aren't
going
to
go
to
city
hall
to
see
the
art,
so
I
think
just
identifying
other
venues
where
we
can
showcase
the
art.
A
few
years
ago,
one
of
the
most
amazing
art
exhibits-
I've
been
to
was
a
pop-up
in
a
local
cafe
in
brighton
center,
the
senior
graduating
class
from
brighton
high,
had
it
had
a
and
had
a
gallery,
they
put
up
their
their
artwork
and
it
it
was
incredible.
H
H
This
is
the
next
generation
of
a
diverse
population
of
young
artists
that
we
need
to
really
cultivate
and
give
them
places
in
our
neighborhoods
that
they,
their
work,
can
be
seen
and
also
that
will
help,
especially
in
also
brighton,
really
make
a
good
connection
with
with
the
young,
with
the
students
who
are
in
our
high
schools
and
and
and
and
help
them
help.
The
community
feel
that
they're
they're,
our
students,
they're
our
kids,
and
this
is
their
wonderful
work.
So
I
really
feel
quite
strongly
about
that.
H
Also,
the
the
civic
moxie
report
that
your
office
commission,
looking
at
art
and
culture
in
allston
brighton,
are:
where
are
we
at
with
that
and
what
are
the
next
steps?
Yeah.
O
So
we
should
have
a
full
draft
completed
by
may
and
then
the
next
step
would
be
to
take
that
back
out
to
a
community
meeting
and
get
feedback
on
it,
especially
well
to
make
sure
that
we
got
kind
of
the
description
of
all
the
issues
and
feedback
correct,
but
then
also
to
get
feedback
on
the
implementation
items
and
next
steps.
There
will
be
quite
a
few
of
them
because
the
the
process
was
pretty
robust
and,
as
you
know,
there
have
been
a
lot
of
community
advocates
who
have
been
super
involved.
O
So
I
think
we
want
to
go
back
out
and
say
you
know:
did
we
get
this
right
and
then
what
do
we
want
to
prioritize
going
forward
and
also
being
really,
I
think
clear
that
a
lot
of
that
is
going
to
have
to
be
in
partnership
across
different
city
departments
and
agencies.
So
there
are
some
things
that
we
can
wholly
own
in
arts
and
culture.
But
a
lot
of
the
issues
are
related
to
bpda.
H
Very
good
and-
and
and
you
know,
we've
talked
about
this-
the
loss
of
of
performance
space,
the
loss
of
studio
space.
You
know,
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
save
our
artist
community
and
also
right-
and
I
think
we
really
have
to
have
a
much
more
proactive
approach
to-
and
I
think
that
we
can
bring
that
out
in
the
conversation
around
the
civic
moccasin
report.
When
it
comes
it,
we
have
to
be
really
intentional
to
make
it
happen,
but
we
are
losing
our
artist
community
pretty
rapidly
due
to
gentrification
and
development.
H
That's
displacing
people,
so
that
is
a
concern.
Let's
see
and
then
on
the
on
these
sports
and
and
and
tourism
side
is
the
head
of
the
charles
happening
this
year.
H
That's
a
big
one
out
this
way
and
in
terms
of
neighborhood
and
community
events,
do
you
bring
events
out
to
the
different
neighborhoods
or
yeah
yeah?
We.
H
Yeah,
that's
good
to
know,
and
I
know
we've
had
a
and
I
think
we're
very
hungry
and
have
a
huge
appetite
to
to
bring
events.
People
are
anxious
to
get
out
and
join
and
meet
their
neighbors
and
and
enjoy
events
in
the
neighborhood.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
that
is
there?
Is
there
a
predicted
timeline,
or
are
we
just
really
taking
it?.
Q
With
the
governor
and
mayor's
announcements
on
mondays,
we
can
slowly
start
to
make
to
make
plans
up
until
before
monday,
we
really
didn't
have
a
timeline
for
when
events
could
start
happening.
So
now
we
we
are
we're
already
on
the
phone
trying
to
figure
out
things
for
independence
day
working
with
the
community
parades
they
they
they
want
the
parades
to
be
smaller
capacity,
so
we're
working
them
through
those
guidelines.
Q
We
work
with
the
amer,
the
consumer
affairs
and
licensings
who
permits
those
events,
and
I
mean
in
this
weekend
we're
doing
we're
helping
out
an
event
in
nubian
square.
It's
it's
savor
the
square.
We
do
them
on
every
saturday
of
every
month,
up
until
october,
so
we
have
been
doing
these
sort
of
small
things,
but
now
that
we
have
a
timeline
in
place,
we
can
start
planning
for
more
and
more
things.
H
And
another
another
question
for
kyra:
is
there
a
is
there
an
inventory
of
public
art
that
the
city
owns
in
the
different
neighborhoods
or
where
would
we
find
that.
O
Yep,
so
that's
the
public
art
collections
database
that
we're
working
on
right
now,
so
we're
compiling
that
it'll
be
the
first
time
that
the
city
actually
has
a
database
with
that
entire
collection
in
it.
Austin
will
actually
be
really
thoroughly
documented,
because
we've
done
some
of
that
as
a
part
of
the
planning
effort
with
civic
moxie,
but
we'll
have
karen.
Can
you
just
remind
us
what
the
timeline
is
for
that
being
available.
P
Yeah
we're
hoping
for
this
spring
so
so
counselor.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
we
have
this
test
version
of
it
up
with
the
mural
maps
which
you
can
find
on
our
website
now
and
people
are
really
enjoying
engaging
with,
especially
now
when
you
can't
people
aren't
comfortable
going
museums
or
things
so.
I'd
recommend
checking
that
out
on
our
website,
but
we're
hoping
this
spring
to
have
both
the
searchable
database
and
the
map
available
on
on
the
website.
H
And
the
other
question
I
had
was
other
resources
first,
because
very
often
a
lot
of
what
we
see
out
here
are
our
local
artists
sort
of
doing
you
know
we
have
people
put
exhibits
up
in
their
in
the
libraries
etc.
Are
there
resources
to
support
those
more
small
scale,
grassroots
events
and
and
shows.
O
Yes,
so
folks
can
apply
to
the
opportunity
fund
to
bring
an
arts
experience
to
their
community
and
that's
a
small
grant
that's
available
throughout
the
year
and
artists
can
apply
for
that
people
doing
creative
work
in
their
community
can
apply
for
it
and
it's
it's
really
targeted
for
that.
Exactly
what
you
were
just
describing
and
we
try
to
make
that
a
quick
turnaround.
That's
why
it's
awkward
throughout
the
year
so
that
you
know
you
don't
have
to
it's,
not
a
yearly
cycle
or
something
like
that.
You
can
be
more
responsive.
A
I
Thank
you
chair,
so
just
a
few
questions.
I'm
really
excited
to
see
the
arts
and
culture
I
am
on
the
committee
and
so
really
grateful
for
all
your
hard
work.
So
mines
are
just
kind
of
pretty
general.
I'm
curious
in
regards
to
I'm
sure
you
all
remember
when
the
roxbury
love
mural
came
down
with
no
public
notice,
a
lot
of
people
lost
trust
in
the
city
of
boston,
who
they
believe,
should
be
preserving
these
important
works.
So
I'm
just
curious.
I
How
is
the
arts
and
culture
pushing
for
the
preservation
of
black
and
brown
art?
I'm
also
curious
about
what
neighborhoods
are
we
seeing
the
most
funding
go
towards
for
community
art
projects?
How
are
we
working
alongside
our
public
schools
to
create
avenues
for
young
people
to
design
their
own
artistic
spaces?
So
I'd
love
to
hear
how
we're
cultivating
the
next
generation
of
artists
and
with
that,
especially
for
paid
internship
opportunities?
I
What
what
is
the
city
doing
to
leverage
its
networks
with
hill
holiday
and
other
advertising
agencies
that
are
across
the
city
that
can
help
support
young
people
who
are
interested
in
graphic
design
and
things
of
that
nature?
I
And
then
I'm
also
curious,
you
know
bam
fest,
who
you
know,
kate
cat
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
really
great
work.
She's
also
brought
to
light
how
difficult
it
is
for
a
lot
of
artists
to
access
space
to
be
able
to.
You
know
showcase,
whether
it
be
through
a
concert
or
just
a
convening,
I'm
curious.
I
What
role
the
city
is
playing
to
really
help
artists
connect
with
spaces
or
even
businesses,
where
they
can
display
their
artwork
and
then
for
the
tourism
folks,
it's
great
to
see
a
bigger
push
for
tourism
in
neighborhoods
beyond
the
same
usual
suspects,
but
I'm
curious
to
know
how
are
we
making
sure
that
increased
tourism
would
not
contribute
to
displacement
in
low
income
communities,
and
I'm
also
just
on
a
side,
note
really
happy
to
see
how
intentional
the
art,
the
art
and
cultures
folks
are
are
doing
to
elevate
lgbtq
art.
O
Thank
you
counselor,
I'm
gonna,
see
if
I
can,
if
I've,
if
am
I
answering
all
of
them,
so
you
might.
You
might
need
to
restate
a
couple
for
the
first
one
about
murals
and
roxbury
love.
We
tried
to
really
learn
from
that
that
process.
I
know
that
that
was
devastating
to
a
lot
of
people
and
we
heard
from
a
lot
of
community
members
about
it.
O
You
know
on
a
pedestal
that
that
is
kind
of
a
kind
of
antiquated
way.
We
think
of
thinking
about
public
art,
so
by
doing
that
and
being
able
to
use
those
funds
for
murals
and
street
art
and
other
things
we're
going
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
those
pieces
are
a
part
of
the
city's
collection
that
we're
able
to
fund
and
support
them
that
we're
able
to
make
sure
that
artists
are
getting
paid
well
for
doing
that.
Work-
and
so
that's
that's,
a
really
important
piece.
O
That
means
that
that's
something
that
is
a
permanent
part
of
what
we
do
and
in
the
city
collection
for
forever.
The
other
thing
is
one
of
the
investments
for
fy22
is
in
conservation,
and
that
will
be
the
first
time
we've
had
any
funding
really
dedicated
to
doing
that.
So
it's
been
great
to
have
the
percent
for
art
program
and
get
all
of
these
public
art
projects
going.
O
But
until
this
point
we
haven't
had
a
regular,
reliable
source
of
funding
to
be
able
to
maintain
and
check
up
on
and
really
make
sure
that
those
pieces
are
are
something
that
we
can
support
going
forward,
not
just
getting
them
in
the
ground
or
on
a
wall,
but
actually
something
that
can
be
a
part
of
work
forever.
So
we're
really
excited
about
being
able
to
have
that
funding.
O
The
even
the
database
is
a
really
important
part
of
this,
because
we'll
be
able
to
track
artworks
in
the
city
that
we
commission
and
we'll
be
able
to
say
you
know
they
need
to
be
monitored,
we'll
be
able
to
say
they
have
agreements
attached
to
them.
Sometimes
this
is
the
difficulty
of
having
to
navigate
community
benefits
and
other
things
that
might
be
attached
to
pieces
and
so
we'll
be
able
to
actually
track
all
of
that
ourselves
in
a
really
coordinated
way.
O
So
so
those
are
all
improvements
and
investments
that
we're
we're
excited
about
that.
I
think
we'll
address
that
with
youth
and
creative
youth
development.
O
You
know:
we've
been
having
a
lot
of
conversations
a
lot
of
the
convenings
this
year
that
we've
been
a
part
of
we've,
been
hosting
with
investors
and
others
who
do
work
specifically
with
young
people,
whether
that's
in
schools
as
art,
teachers
or
through
organizations,
creative
youth
development
organizations
and
a
lot
of
that
has
been
about
pathways.
So
I
think
we're
having
some
productive
conversations
there.
We're
really
conveners
in
that
space,
and
the
next
step,
I
think,
is
exactly
what
you
described,
which
is
going
to
our
creative
industries
and
saying
hey.
O
You
need
to
create
paid
slots
so
that
there
is
actually
a
pathway,
a
clear
pathway
that
a
young
person
can
take.
Even
if
we've
built
all
of
this
support
for
them.
You
know
through
middle
school
or
high
school,
where
they
actually
go
from
there
to
get
that
real
life
experience.
O
So
those
conversations
are
happening
and
we
feel
really
really
strongly
about
our
private
sector
playing
a
role
in
that,
and
that
was
two
of
the
questions
you
mentioned.
I'm
sure
I'm
forgetting
something.
A
Q
I
think
her
question
was:
she
was
asking
how
our
tourism
efforts
as
working
towards
not
displacing
community
displacement
in
communities
so
with
the
all-inclusive
campaign,
our
whole
job,
it's
sort
of
a
two-part
answer.
Our
whole
job
is
to
sort
of
bring
up
these.
These
neighborhoods
that
aren't
normally
seen
and
not
highlighted
in
a
typical
tourism
campaign.
The
part
two
of
the
answer
would
be
that
pre-coveted
10
of
jobs
came
from
our
industry.
Many
of
those
people
working
in
our
industries
came
from
those
marginalized
communities.
Q
A
Communities,
thank
you,
kate,
counselor
mahia.
That's
it's
about
the
timer's
about
to
go
off
in
seven
seconds,
but
did
you
have
any
follow-up?
Neither
of
those
all.
I
A
All
right
well
we're
glad
to
hear
it:
okay,
counselor,
flaherty
and
then
it'll
be
counselor
edwards.
J
J
I
really
have
to
give
credit
to
my
former
colleague
city
council,
john
tobin,
who
obviously
had
he
had
space,
obviously
in
the
creative
economy
with
comedy,
and
he
really
highlighted
the
great
work
that
our
arts,
programs
and
community
has
in
the
city
and
how
they're
an
integral
part
of
our
economy,
and
so
with
that
just
want
to.
Let
folks
know
that
yesterday
the
city
council
passed
it
was.
We
got
some
funds
from
the
coronavirus
aid
relief
and
economic
securities.
J
It's
the
cares
act,
so
we
released
45
590
yesterday.
That
grant
was
awarded
to
the
national
endowment
for
the
arts
in
this
to
be
administered
obviously
by
the
office
of
action
culture.
J
So
that
grant,
as
you
know,
will
help
fund
some
awards
to
help
sustain
our
arts
community
and
hopefully
save
jobs
in
the
arts
organizations,
and
so
we
went
from
obviously
having
sort
of
a
focus
on
the
four-point
channel
area
and
now,
as
a
city-wide
city
council,
we've
got
artists
communities
throughout
our
city
and
I've
been
a
strong
supporter,
obviously
of
the
arts
as
well.
J
As
you
know,
our
tall
ships,
our
tournaments,
the
regatta
and
the
trials
that
was
mentioned
by
our
colleague,
council
braid
and
the
marathon
all
those
sort
of
world
class
events
that
we
host
here
in
the
city
that
bring
you
know
tens
of
thousands
of
people
on
war
to
our
city,
which
is
great.
You
know,
in
addition
to
having
the
best
colleges,
universities
and
hospital
network
in
the
world.
J
We
can
really
boast
strong
arts,
tourism
and
culture,
and
that's
because
of
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
so
no
real
specific
questions.
Other
than
just
wanting
to
thank
you
for
your
commitment
to
our
city,
and
hopefully
we
can
continue
to
support
those
programs.
J
We
do
have
a
council
that
is
obviously
focused
and
wants
to
partner
with
you,
so
take
full
advantage
of
that,
and
obviously,
as
additional
funds
come
in
from
the
cares
act,
I'll
be
working
closely
with
chairwoman
bach
counselor
council
president
pro
temp
had
just
created
a
committee
that
he
has
assigned
me
as
the
chair
I'll,
be
working
with
all
my
colleagues,
and
so
I'm
going
to
do
our
best
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
funds
out
to
the
folks
that
have
been
harvested,
and
I
have
to
think
that
you
guys
have
taken
it
on
the
chin.
J
A
Great
thank
you.
Counselor
flaherty,
counselor
edwards.
A
All
right,
let
me
just
council
edwards
there.
M
Yes,
yes,
sorry,
no
worries
go
ahead.
Sorry
about
that.
So
I
I'll
just
put
out
the
questions.
I
I
think
my
questions
have
a
lot
to
do
with
equity
and
healing
through
the
arts,
and
some
of
them
are
specific
to
my
districts
so
dealing
with
the.
I
know
that
the
whole
replacement
of
the
christopher
columbus
statue
is
with
the
arts.
I
think
you
guys
are
commissioning
a
public
discourse
around
that
I
think
there's
been
some
concerns
about
how
public
it's
been
and
how
inclusive
for
my
district
to
specifically
help
the
guide.
M
What
that
what
the
end
result
will
be,
and
I'm
curious
honestly
where
we
are
in
that
conversation,
the
other
part,
is
the
what's
in
a
name
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
questions
about
what
what
names
we
choose
and
whether
we're
going
to
change
names
and
that,
I
guess
maybe
goes
to
tourism
and
arts
and
how
you
know
you
could
go
to
faneuil
hall,
but
we
can
also
go
to
maverick
in
east
boston
there's.
M
So
many
different
people
who
have
through
a
different
historical
lens
have
demonstrated
to
fall
short
of.
Obviously,
today's
standards
of
equity
and
racial
justice,
and
so
I
would
like
to
know
more
about
your
process
for
honestly
healing
through
the
arts
when
those
controversies
come
up
and
where
we
are
when
it
comes
to
christopher
columbus
park.
O
So
we
can
speak
to
the
christopher
columbus
statue.
First,
we
are
committed
to
commissioning
something
new
for
that
space.
We
are,
I
think,
still
and
karen.
O
You
might
have
to
help
me
out
here,
but
we're
still
in
the
works
of
trying
to
formally
gift
the
statue
or
loan
the
statue
to
the
knights
of
columbus,
who
have
said
that
they
will
take
that
incorporate
that
into
their
building
project,
and
so
I
think,
we're
still
trying
to
formalize
that,
and
once
that's
done,
we
can
move
on
to
the
question
of
what
to
commission.
O
O
That's
there
and
I
think
one
thing
that's
come
up
in
that
christopher
columbus
process
in
particular,
are
a
lot
of
the
stories
and
almost
kind
of
oral
history
of
why
different
things
are
important
to
different
people
and
what
different
cultural
symbols
mean,
and
there's
a
lot
of
potential
for
us
to
to
really
yeah.
To
lean
into
that.
It's
been
interesting
with
the
emancipation
group
memorial,
which
I
think
we
felt
like
was
a
a
really
good
public
process,
with
a
lot
of
input
and
people
really
listening
to
each
other.
O
What
do
we
feel
like
does
represent
us,
and
why,
and
that
can
also
lead
to
not
just
changing
something
but
to
more
interpretation
like
more
information
about
why
things
are
the
way
they
are
so
that
you
actually
have
something
to
help.
You
understand
what
you're,
seeing
when
you're
in
public
space,
and
the
other
thing
that
we've
been
thinking
about,
is
commissioning
temporary
art
in
response
to
things.
So
not
everything
is
just
static
in
public
space.
O
We
can
also
have
public
dialogue
through
artists,
responding
to
something
like
a
columbus
memorial
or
an
emancipation
group
memorial.
So
that's
some
of
what
we've
been
thinking
about
and
would
love
to
have
a
sketch
of
a
process
that
we
can
then
apply
to
other
pieces
of
public
art
as
well
and
karen.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
to
that.
P
Yeah
I'll
just
add
that
we
had
two
public
meetings
where
the
christopher
columbus
statue
was
discussed.
The
the
subject
matter,
much
like
your
question,
counselor
was
broader.
People
were
really
interested
in
naming
in
the
parks
in
itself,
but
we
really
tried
to
focus
on
the
statue
itself
and
really
also
think
about
it
as
an
artwork
and
think
about
like
the
damage
that
had
been
done
to
it
and
what
is
the
best
way
to
care
for
it,
and
so
we
worked
with
conservators
to
do
that
assessment
and
shared
those
as
well.
P
We
had
again
we
had
public
meetings
in
august
and
october,
with
I
think,
around
or
over
100
people
in
attendance
at
each
and
people
gave
testimony
there,
but
we
do
understand
that
people
have
different,
want
different
outcomes
and
have
different
thoughts
about
this.
So
our
goal,
as
chief
eliot
ortega,
said
so
much
at
how
we
approach
emancipation
group
is
to
have
dialogue
and
listening
even
when
we
don't
agree
with
each
other.
M
Okay,
so
just
to
make
sure
I'm
clear,
because
there's
no
controversy
and
there's
no
issue
honestly
with
the
statute
just
moving,
I
wouldn't
say,
there's
no
controversy,
but
I
would
say
that
that
process
is
is
done.
M
It's
going
to
the
knights
of
columbus
in
on
private
property,
and
so
I
don't
want
that
to
be
what's
in
the
way
of
or
what's
holding
up
the
much-needed
conversation
so
that
the
two
are
separate.
To
me,
I
mean
the
the
actual
physical
statute
and
having
a
place
to
be
publicly
on
private
property.
The
knights
of
columbus
have
accepted
that
and
so
on
and
whatever
in
terms
of
what
I'll,
just
peter.
When
is
the
next
meeting
to
discuss
what
is
going
to
happen
on
that
platform
in
the
north
end
at
christopher
columbus
park.
P
Counselor
I
just
I
want
to
clarify
first
that
we
had
sent
an
agreement
to
the
knights
of
columbus
and
they
sent
it
back
with
red
lines,
so
we're
actually
redlined
and
so
we're
that's
with
legal
right
now.
So
just
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
that
process
is
is
not
completely
finalized,
since
we
have
to
be
responsive
to
their
requests.
P
Okay
have
the
subject
on
a
public
meeting
coming
up
at
this
time.
You
do
not
yeah.
What
will
you?
As
carr
said?
We
are
hoping
to
conclude
the
process
about
the
the
actual
object
itself,
the
statue
itself
and
secure
its
place
with
the
knights
of
columbus
and
help
them
plan
for
that
and
also
transfer
the
physical
object
to
storage
for
them,
and
then
we
would
look
to
next
steps
of
opening
the
conversation
about
a
new
artwork.
M
I'll
I'll
just
say,
I
feel
that
I
know
I
mean
I
I'm
sure
your
staff
is
a
lot,
but
I
think
the
two
parts
two
conversations
can
happen
at
the
same
time,
especially
if
it's
illegal
back
and
forth
on
a
redline
document
and
then
there's
community
healing
at
play
right
now,
and
so
I
would.
I
would
really
want
you
to
prioritize.
I
mean
it's
conversation
so
in
as
much
as
there's.
M
Nothing
really
stopping
that,
except
what
I'm
hearing
is
you
just
to
be
direct
you're
you're,
just
not
wanting
to
get
involved
right
now
because
of
an
outside
legal
negotiation.
O
I
think,
actually
it's
more
of
a
capacity
question
than
anything
else.
One
of
the
investments
for
fy
22
is
another
project
manager
for
public
art.
M
I
think,
as
we're
coming
into
recovery
and
healing
as
a
city,
it
should
be
a
priority
for
this
summer
and
it
should
be
not
only
a
priority
but
a
sentence
that
begins
and
ends
this
summer
as
to
where
we're
going
on
this
particular
platform.
In
this
particular
issue,
we're
going
to
have
the
feasts
come
back,
we're
going
to
have
it
come
back,
and
I
say
this
because
I'm
expecting
it
to
come
to
me
the
questions,
the
concerns
the.
M
Why
isn't
this
and
why
haven't
we
moved,
and
it
wouldn't
be
satisfactory
for
me
to
say,
because
we
have
legal
legal
negotiations.
If
it's
a
matter
of
capacity,
then
then
that's
different.
You
just
need
additional
people
to
be
part
of
that.
Would
it
would
it
make
sense,
then,
for
my
office
to
help
with
that
conversation
and
just
have
that
conversation
and
invite
you
to
come
along.
O
Yeah,
potentially,
I
think
I
would
love
to
follow
up
with
you
and
talk
through
a
little
bit
about
what
the
goals
would
be
from
your
end,
what
we
need
in
order
to
move
forward
with
whatever
the
next
thing
is
on
our
end.
So
but
yes,
it
would
be
great
to
do
that
in
collaboration.
So
I
would
love
to
chat.
M
Yeah
I'll
just
put
it
out
there.
I
think
one
of
the
best
things
that
we
could
do
is
to
celebrate
from
that
community's
perspective,
the
italian
heritage
and
history,
and
I
think
that
that
is
what
many
of
them
have
said
they
feel
is
lost
from
the
statute
or
the
way
the
pros
the
way
the
statute
went
away.
M
So
I
would
say
that
that's
a
definite
concern
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
can
all
celebrate,
regardless
of
where
we're
from
is
the
contributions
of
italian
immigrants,
especially
in
what
is
what
is
left
of
as
our
italian
little
italy.
So
I
I
think
that
I'd
love
for
that
to
be
part
of
the
how
we
celebrate
a
beautiful
thing,
instead
of
maybe
focusing
on
individuals
which
may
have
been
the
mistake
to
begin
with,
focusing
just
on
one
person
in
history.
M
A
Thanks
so
much
counselor
edwards,
now
it's
mine
and
and
colleagues
I'll
just
say:
if
you
have
a
follow-up
question,
you
should
text
me
because
otherwise
I'll
I'll
assume
that
you
don't
but
yeah,
I
wanted
to
ask
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
the
new
investments
in
both
of
your
departments.
We,
you
know
when
we
originally
scheduled
you
for
these
you're,
comparatively
small
departments
and
you're
here,
mainly
because
of
these
revolving
funds.
A
You've
got-
and
I
imagine
that
for
kate-
that's
especially
funny
because
it's
a
revolving
fund
that
has
done
no
business
this
year
and
will
do
no
business
in
the
year
coming,
but
it
worked
out
well
for
the
council
because
of
course
both
of
your
departments
are
getting
proportionately
quite
substantial
investments
and
so
for
cara.
I
guess
I
want
to
ask
about
the
so
there's
one
million
dollars
for
the
program
to
train
artists
and
connect
them
with
city
departments
or
local
non-profits,
like
you
know
like.
What's
that?
A
What's
that
give
me
more
detail
like?
What's
that
gonna
look
like
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
we're
all
excited
about,
there's
a
sort
of
wpa
resonance
there
kind
of
like
you
know.
Arts
are
part
of
recovery
and
stimulus,
and
that's
that's
great
as
a
kind
of
resonant
theme,
I'm
sort
of
interested
in
in
practice.
How
are
we
choosing
these
folks?
How
are
we
publicizing
it?
Are
they
are
they
being
paid
for
like
what
are
we
paying
them
to
do?
A
Is
it
a
commissioning
process,
or
you
know,
do
we
think
that
there's
stuff
that's
left
over?
After
the
fact
I
was
just
in
there's
a
co-op
in
my
district
in
fenway
that
actually
has
wpa
murals
inside
the
building,
still,
which
is
pretty
cool,
but
you
know,
is
it
something
where
something's
left
behind
or
is
it
more
kind
of
performative?
You
know
activities
with
people
just
like.
What's
the
vision
there,
can
you
talk
more
about
that.
O
Yeah-
and
I
think
so-
we're
still
designing
this,
so
I'm
everything
I'm
saying
is
a
little
bit
speculative,
but
there's
definitely
a
portion
of
this
funding
that
will
supplement
our
transformative
public
art
grants,
which
also
focus
on
funding
artists
and
their
projects
that
deal
with
similar
themes.
So
you
know
we
were
mentioning
the
ability
to
connect
with
our
communities
to
process
in
some
cases,
grief
but
also
joy
and
what
it
means
to
come
back
into
public
space.
O
So
it'll
be
some
funding
that
is
going
towards
artists
to
do
some
of
those
those
projects,
artistic
projects.
There
will
be
some
direct
commissioning
where
we
are
thinking
more
along
the
traditional
wpa
mural
idea
of
how
we
can.
Actually
we
did
outreach
to
city
departments
that
have
city-owned
walls
that
could
host
a
mural
and
sort
of
be
pre-approved
for
that.
So
that's
something
that
we'll
be
trying
to
do
and
then
the
piece
about
hiring
artists
is
a
part
of
city
work.
O
Some
of
those
might
be
things
that
look
like
artistic
products
like
murals
out
in
the
world,
but
some
of
it
might
also
just
be
hiring
artists
as
a
part
of
process.
So
what
does
it
look
like
to
have
an
artist
on
your
planning
team
for
an
initiative?
O
So
the
idea
would
be
that
we
would
do
outreach
to
our
city
departments
here
and
say
we're
going
to
have
this
opportunity
available.
But
we
need
you
to
go
through
this
training.
First,
people
would
go
through
the
training
and
then
we
would
fund
the
projects
that
come
out
of
that
and
help
departments
scope.
What
that
looks
like
so
it's
still
very
exploratory.
O
We
would
be
paying
for
the
artists
to
be
a
part
of
that,
as
well
as
helping
city
staff
understand
what
that
might
look
like
for
them,
and
in
some
cases
it
might
be
something
really
direct
like
public
art,
or
it
might
be.
O
Something
that,
like
I
said,
is
really
about
having
someone
as
a
thought
partner
on
your
team,
who
can
then
do
different
kinds
of
creative
work
or
creative
engagement,
and
I
think
we're
really
hoping
for
a
good
mix
of
those
things,
because
we
love
murals,
but
we
also
really
want
you
know
the
city
to
across
all
these
different
areas
understand
the
value
of
creative
workers
and
the
arts
as
a
part
of
what
they
do.
A
O
O
Is
it
just
about
artists
having
a
lot
of
contracts
with
city
government,
or
you
know,
we
also
have
the
artist
in
residence
program
where
we're
really
working
with
artists
as
kind
of
employees
throughout
the
year,
and
so
I
think
this
is
just
a
first
step
and
it's
also
an
opportunity
to
be
responsive
to
what's
really
exciting,
which
is
a
lot
of
study
departments
that
have
demand
for
artists.
So
we're
hearing
a
lot
from
different
staff
who
are
saying
hey.
We
really
want
to
work
with
somebody.
O
A
O
Building
a
little
bit
as
I
ride
it,
I
think
it's
it's
leveraging
national
partners
who
have
all
been
doing
something
like
this
kind
of
work,
one
of
the
main
people
who's
working
on.
It
actually
advises
cities
around
the
country
and
different
public
agencies
on
how
to
do
artist-in-residence
programs.
So
it's
building
on
a
lot
of
expertise,
but
it's
kind
of
been
you
know,
birthed
in
the
moment,.
A
Got
it
and
I
guess
it
would
be
interesting
to
understand-
I
mean
I,
I
know
you're,
as
you
say,
like
still
figuring
this
out
it.
You
know
it
would
be
interesting
as
you
get
more
definition,
maybe
for
you
to
like
send
us
a
bit
of
an
update
about,
like
you
know
like,
because
a
million
dollars
can
be,
you
know,
a
million
dollars.
A
That's
like
ten
hundred
thousand
grants
versus
a
hundred
ten
thousand
grants.
It's
a
very
different
kind
of
program,
yeah
so
sort
of
curious
about
how
you're
imagining
it
segmenting.
If
you
have
an
idea
now
or.
O
O
So
I
think
we're
trying
to
balance
those
different
pieces
right
now
and
figure
out
what
what
is
the
highest
and
best
use,
but
also,
what's
going
to
be,
what's
going
to
be
strategic
in
order
to
set
up
more
sustainable
sources
of
support
for
artists
and
for
the
arts
going
forward.
So
we've
done,
you
know,
we've
done
relief,
funding,
we'll
keep
supporting
relief
funding
as
much
as
we
can.
O
A
I
see
right
so
if
there
was
a
world
in
which
the
kinds
of
standard
community
engagement
processes
that
we
and
other
levels
of
government
engage
in
and
that
private
entities
engage
in
when
they're
doing
development
or
other
things
like.
If
there
was
a
world
in
which
we
made
it
more
normal
for
people
to
hire
artists
to
help
them
with
that.
That
could
be
like
a
real
revenue
line
for
our
artists,
like
keep
them
sort
of
in
the
city
and
able
to
make
the
pay
their
bills.
Is
that
kind
of
part
of.
O
A
Yeah,
no
that's
great,
and
I
think
I
think
that's
definitely
the
direction.
A
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
and
you
know
counselor
flaherty,
I
think,
had
to
hop
off
but,
as
he
mentioned,
he's
chairing
this
committee
for
the
council,
that's
going
to
keep
kind
of
looking
at
the
arp
funding
once
we
get
past
budget
season
july
1.,
but
you
know
the
arp
funding
it's
so
it's
exciting,
but
it's
also
tricky
right,
because
it's
not
it's
not
a
sort
of
sustainable
city
source
that
will
last
forever,
and
so
I
think
it's
exactly
like.
We
need
to
be
thinking
about
it
as
like.
A
What's
something
where,
if
you
have
some
money
up
front,
you
can
figure
out
how
to
do
something,
impactful
right.
That
can
then
have
a
long
tail.
You
know
so
so
I
mean
I
think
this
is
pretty
interesting.
I
think,
though,
that
that
means
that
you
really
want
to,
as
you
do,
work
on
design
keep
focused
on
that
aspect
of
it
right
like
so
that
it's
it's
something
like.
How
would
how?
How
can
we
do
this
and
then
it
has
some
impact
in
a
couple
of
years
and
not
just
in
this
year?
A
So,
okay?
No,
that's
that's
really
helpful.
Thank
you
and
the
air
project
manager
who's
coming
on
board.
Can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
more
about
air.
P
Sure
the
artist
in
residence
program
is,
we
just
finished
our
fourth
year
of
the
program,
so
it
has
changed
year
to
year,
it's
very
responsive
to
what's
going
on
socially,
but
the
basic
idea
is
that
we
invite
a
group
of
artists
to
come
in
and
partner
with
city
departments
and
to
come
together
in
a
cohort
together.
So
they
have
sort
of
a
learning,
a
peer
group
during
this
period
of
time,
but
really
to
think
you
know
creatively
and
to
examine
city
policies
and
processes
and
to
take
a
critical.
P
But
you
know
creative
approach
to
thinking
about
how
the
city
can
work
better.
So,
for
example,
we
had
artists
working
with
the
health
commission
this
year,
we've
had
them
work
with
the
transportation
department,
age,
strong,
women's
advancement,
we've
had
a
sort
of
broad
range
dnd,
so
artists
come
in
and
really
co-design
projects
over
the
course
of
that
year,
and
so
we've
had
we
had
at
different
periods
of
time
paying
through
the
program
support
for
for
coordination
and
management,
and
we
were
able
to
bring
someone
in
full
time.
P
A
Got
it
great
and
then
this
is
a
question
I
have,
and
I
know
that
counselor
braden
has
it
also,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
it
and
then
counselor
braden,
if
you
have
any
further,
follow
up
on
it.
So
the
piece
that
was
kind
of
library
related
in
your
eyes,
budget,
the
you
know
like
there's
a
sort
of
thing
about
archiving.
A
Can
you
speak
to
that?
We
we
were
just
cause.
We
know
we're
to
have
bpl
in
front
of
us
later,
so
I
think
we
were
all
slightly
confused
about
sort
of
like
how
that
interacts
with
them.
O
Yeah
I
mean
I
can,
but
karen
can
add
more
detail,
but
both
bpl
and
the
arts
office
have
jurisdiction
over
different
collections.
So
when
we're
talking
about
investments
in
the
public,
art
collections
database
and
things
that
go
with
that,
it's
because
we
are
directly
tied
to
the
art
commission
and,
like
legal
ownership
of
art
objects.
O
So
it's
we
do
have
conversations
and
have
been
having
conversations
with
bpl
and
their
archive
and
collections
folks,
as
we've
been
getting
a
database
up
and
running
because
obviously
we
deal
with
really
similar
issues,
but
we're
also
tracking
different
kinds
of
objects
and
that
are
tied
to
different,
like
ordinances.
O
A
Yeah,
sorry,
let
me
find
I'll
find,
I
think,
there's
something
in
the
budget
book.
That's
confusing
on
this
front,
because
I
got
a
few
questions
both
from
my
staff
and
and
others,
so
I'll
figure
out
what
it
is,
the
okay
kate,
but
I
might
come
back
to
art,
sorry,
but
kate
you're.
A
You
know
so.
First
of
all
I
want
to
say
I
mean
I
know
that
you
said
this,
but
you
know
like
I
represent
a
district
with
a
huge
like
number
of
the
places
that
have
been
incredibly
hard
hit
from
an
economic
perspective
in
this
period,
right
like
so
I'm
the
counselor
for
both
the
garden
and
fenway
park
for
the
whole
ecosystem
that
thrives
off
of
heinz
convention
center,
which
was
a
worry
for
a
different
reason
before
the
pandemic.
A
You
know,
and-
and
I
do
want
to
say-
because
I
know
it
came
up
earlier-
that
we
all
know
that
bostonians
from
all
over
the
city
work
in
these
pubs,
and
so
I
think,
like
you,
know,
the
role
of
the
role
of
tourism
to
to
funding
all
the
things
we
care
about.
We
see
excises
are
down
substantially.
A
You
know
I.
I
think
about
you
know
the
real,
the
real
diverse
workers
who
have
strong
middle
class
jobs
through
hotel
working
jobs
across
the
city.
I
mean,
I
just
think
I
think
it's
gonna
be
really
important
in
the
recovery
for
us
not
to
get
an
idea
that
our
economic
hubs
like
and
them
doing
well
is
not
part
of
the
whole
city
thriving
because
it
like
completely
is-
and
it's
it's
critical
and
I'm
deeply
concerned
about
it.
A
So
I
guess
what
I
wanted
to
ask
you
about
is
if,
similarly,
you
could
kind
of
speak
to
this
additional
new
investment
that
you're
getting
in
a
little
more
detail
and
in
particular
sorry
I'm
looking
for
my
question,
so
the
I
guess
one
question
I
have
is
like,
I
think
it's
described
at
least
some
place
in
our
book
as
sort
of
a
million
dollar
investment
in
job
training
for
hard
hit
industries.
Q
Okay,
although
so
that
we
are
working
together
on
all
of
that,
because
a
lot
of
the
the
job
training
hard
hit
industries
are
hotels
and
hospitality.
So
we
have
had
a
lot
of
conversations
with
trent
and
midori
about
how
we
can
make
sure
to
combine
our
efforts.
Q
We
in
our
budget,
we
got
a
million
dollars
to
extend
the
tourism
campaign
all-inclusive,
that's
right!
So
if
you
want
me
to
break
down
how
we
are
thinking
about
spending
that
I'm
more
than
happy
to
well.
A
Just
if
you
could
yeah,
if
you
could
speak
to
I
mean
I
think
people
are
excited
about
it.
I
think
that,
okay,
I
guess
the
question
I
would
ask
is
like:
how
are
we
measuring?
Because
it's
like
it's
good
that
we're
it's
good,
that
we're
extending
it.
You
know
it's
always
a
little
bit
hard
to
know.
Like
I
mean
we
all.
We
all
hope
and
expect
that
people
coming
back
to
boston
is
going
to
tick
up
now
because
of
the
overall
public
health
situation.
Q
Well,
one
of
the
lines
in
our
proposed
budget
for
that
additional
funds
is
for
search
engine
marketing,
so
we
actually
will
go
in
there
and
do
the
research
and
see
like
the
kids
are
up
and
how
people
are
engaging
with
the
campaign.
Some
of
it
is
going
towards
doing
like
community
engagement
sessions
to
get
more
people
involved
like
directly
with
the
community.
Q
A
lot
of
it
is
creating
more
creative
and
when
we
say
doing
more
creative,
it's
that
proverb
did
such
a
good
job
of
they
hired
all
of
these
local
artists
and
photographers
and
videographers,
and
we
had
our
poetry
at
narrating
it,
and
we
really
worked
to
get
as
many
wnbes
involved
in
this
program,
and
so
we
will
continue
with
that.
Q
Most
of
the
money
I
will
say,
is
going
to
go
to
advise
you
know
to
get
people
get
the
word
out
and
we
we
were
very
strategic
and
and
where
we
placed
those
ads,
we
really
wanted
to
engage
with
local
media.
That
was
really
really
important
to
us
and
and
then
it's
basically
sort
of
a
drive
market,
because
we
we're
not
trying
to
get
we're
not
telling
people
to
get
on
the
plane
and
come
to
boston,
because
the
public
health
isn't
isn't
we're
not
there
yet.
Q
But
you
know,
you
know,
come
for
the
afternoon.
Come
for
the
day
go
or-
and
you
know
a
big
part
of
the
campaign
is
just
go
outside
your
own
neighborhood.
You
know
so
come
to
east
boston,
where
I
live
and
go
to
towel
call
which
was
a
big
featured
in
the
campaign
and
just
started
trying
to
get
people
outside
of
their
comfort
zone
and
discover
these
like
new
treasures
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
about.
Q
So
we're
gonna
focus
on
that
and
so
far
we've
had
really
really
good
responses
and
we're
excited
to
be
able
to
create
more
creative
and
and
engage
different
neighborhoods.
A
Great,
no,
it's
good
to
know
we're
doing
seo
tracking
and
such,
and
I
mean
I
do
think
that
within
the
term
of
this
fiscal
year
we
will
be
at
the
stage
of
saying,
get
on
a
plane
and
come
to
boston,
so
I
hope
we're
sort
of
in
a
position
to
pivot.
To
that
I
just
want
to
check
if
councilor
braden
had
anything,
because
I
know
she's
got
to
go
in
a
couple
of
minutes.
I
have
one
or
two
more
questions,
but
counselor
braden.
H
Thank
you.
I'm
still
not
clear
about
the
library
department
issue.
It's
just
a
line
item.
There's
no
breakdown
of
what
that
40
40.
Is
it
45
million
at
42
million?
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
money
and
and
to
get
some
understanding
of.
A
A
H
Very
good,
that's
fine
great!
It's
just
I'm,
so
I
wasn't
expecting
to
see
a
library
item
in
this
pocket
so
and
that's
why
I'm
a
little
confused,
but
that's
all
right!
Thank
you.
I
will.
I
will
follow
up
with
you.
We
can
follow.
A
Oh,
I
think
it's
as
simple
as
sorry,
I'm
just
in
the
budget
book
now
trying
to.
A
It
is
it's
just
that
it's
just
that
the
budget
book
puts
arts
and
culture
as
like
a
section,
and
then
it
has
arts
and
culture
and
then
library
so
cabinet.
Oh
it's
like
your
cabinet
exactly
so
it,
but
it
appears
as
though
library
is
a
program
of
arts
and
culture
that,
but
it
is
not,
I
mean
in
maybe
some
sense
it
is,
but
not
of
this
department.
A
A
Great,
thank
you
for
your
okay.
Thank
you
for
your
indulgence.
Thank
you.
That
was
the
same
confusion,
yeah
and
driving
the
question
I
was
asking
earlier.
A
So
let
me
just
come
back
to
I'm
coming
back
to
just
one
or
two
more
questions,
so
a
thing
that
you
both
know,
I
think,
is
that
I
care
quite
a
lot
about
chronicling
the
city's
history
and
and
about
like
you
know
how
we
can,
how
we
can
use
that,
to
you
know,
drive
tourism,
how
we
can
do
arts
work.
That
kind
of
like
connects
back
with
our
history.
I
think.
A
Actually,
we
have
a
very
strong
historic
sensibility
in
boston,
but
I'm
very
interested
in
expanding
that
past.
A
kind
of
like
so
what's
sometimes
been
a
sort
of
narrow,
revolutionary
history
kind
of
story.
So
I'd
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
car
about
what
you
guys
are
doing
on
that
front
and
then
kate,
I
know
we've
talked
about
you
know.
A
I
would
like
us
to
really
and
I'll
be
saying
more
on
this
front,
soon
again
been
a
little
distracted
by
setting
up
the
budget
stuff,
but
you
know
really
have
us
pull
kind
of
pull
together
in
a
cross-departmental
way
in
a
way
that
really
lets
us
take
full
advantage
of
the
250th
as
a
tourism
opportunity
and
the
400th,
but
as
a
tourism
opportunity
as
a
bps
educational
opportunity
as
a
commemoration,
public
art,
public
performance
and
as
like
bostonians
sort
of
seeing
themselves
reflected
in
the
history.
A
I
I
just
think
I
live
surrounded
by
the
black
history
of
beacon,
hill
and
very
few
people
kind
of
know
about
it
still
and
so
think
a
lot
about
how
we
kind
of
shift
things
on
that
front.
So
I
would
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
from
both
of
you
just
about
kind
of
any
latest
work
on
either
of
those
fronts.
Q
Gonna
go
kate!
Well,
sorry,
so
we
have
a
weekly
meeting
with
the
rep
250
people,
so
the
centennial-
and
I
know
that
you're
very
involved
with
creating
commission.
Unfortunately
they
didn't
get
their
state
commission
but
they're
they.
They
know
that
they're
they're
sure
they're
gonna
get
it
next
round,
so
we've
been
working
slowly
towards
that
they
have.
Q
You
know
I
mean
you
know
that
community
too,
they
have
all
sorts
of
great
ideas
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
the
stakeholders
to
really
show
off
our
city
in
2026
and
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
to
make
it.
Q
You
know,
sort
of
the
same
way,
the
all-inclusive
campaign
and
highlight
areas
of
the
city
that
have
all
sorts
of
historic
revolutionary
significance
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
about,
and
working
with,
arts
and
culture
and
landmarks
and
all
sorts
of
other
departments
to
to
to
really
work
with
place
making.
So
people
know
about
that
so,
like
I
said
we
have
these
weekly
meetings
they're
in
the
process
of
creating
their
own
nonprofit,
so
they
can
start
fundraising
for
the
event.
O
Our
our
main
entry
point
for
thinking
about
some
of
this
has
been
through
public
art.
This
year
we
hit
a
little
bit
of
a
a
bump
in
the
road
of
being
able
to
implement
this,
mostly
due
to
capacity
and
being
responsive
to
everything
else
that
was
going
on,
but
we
have
pulled
together
a
sketch
of
programs
to
really
delve
into
the
the
history
and
challenging
questions
around
different
pieces
of
public
art
in
boston,
and
a
lot
of
that
does
have
to
do
with
pre-colonial,
history
and
indigenous
representation
in
our
city.
O
Narrative,
broadly,
I
guess
I
can
say
so.
That's
an
area
that
we
would
love
to
explore
and
get
into
more
and
think
about
how
we
can
work
to
broaden
that
part
of
of
our
story
and
also
work
with
cultural
workers,
indigenous
cultural
workers.
To
help
do
that.
That's
one
thing
that
is
would
definitely
be
on
our
priority
list
and
in
terms
of
telling
more
diverse
histories
of
the
things
that
we
already
do
talk
a
lot
about
like
revolutionary
history.
I
think
any
way
that
we
can
help
be
a
part
of
that
conversation.
O
We're
really
excited
to
do
so.
It's
it's
been
so
much
at
the
heart
of
a
lot
of
the
public
conversations,
the
public
art
conversations
that
have
been
happening
this
year.
A
Great
yeah,
and
I
would
also
love
to
be
supportive
of
you-
know.
The
north
american
indian
center
of
boston
is
actually
at
the
edge
of
my
district
and
a
thing
that
you
know
and
we've
been
grateful
to
partner
with
them
on
a
bunch
of
different
fronts
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
and
a
thing
that
I
feel
like
we
definitely
see
is
that.
A
Because
they
represent
because
because
native
americans
represent
a
relatively
small
demographic
proportion
of
boston,
that
they're
not
always
in
the
conversation
and
that-
and
that
I
I
mean
you
know-
I
don't
think
that
I
don't
think
that
they
receive
any
kind
of
city
funding,
support
for
any
of
like
activity.
You
know-
and
I
think
I
think
it's
sort
of
it's
it's.
A
We
have
a
lot
of
reckoning
to
do
with
that
past
and
a
piece
of
that
is,
we
can't
be.
We
can't
be
missing
that
narrative
and
those
stories
and
their
involvement,
because
they're
a
small
proportion
of
the
population
on
this
land
that
they
were
the
the
earliest
occupants
of
you
know
so
so
yeah.
We
would
love
to
be
to
be
involved,
and
I
hopefully
you're
already
in
touch
with
nikob,
but
yeah.
O
We
actually
funded
them
through
that
relief
funding
this
year
for
organizations.
So,
but
that's
just
that's
just
really
funding
you
know,
there's
still
a
lot
of
relationship
building,
I
think
to
do
there
but
yeah.
O
We
would
love
to
be
a
part
of
that
conversation
and
I
think
also
I
would
just
put
in
a
plug
for
training
city
staff,
because
a
lot
of
this
is
also
that
we
have
to
know
our
own
history
and
what
some
of
those
questions
are
in
order
to
really
be
fluent
in
how
we
do
that
work
and
and
to
to
know
right
like
who
the
organizations
and
the
people
are
who
need
to
be
at
the
table.
O
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
know
that
would
be
great
and
I
do
think
I'd
be
interested
in
whether
there's
an
opportunity
also
to
for
you
guys
to
partner
with
this
is
more
my
gripe
for
for
may
10th
with
with
landmarks
and
environment.
But
I
feel
like
we
have
this.
A
We
have
the
city
architect,
sorry,
archaeology,
department,
that
does
amazing
work
and
joe
is
fantastic,
but
there's
so
much
of
it
is
just
continually
like
going
to
sites
and
archiving
things
and
making
some
notes
and
then
like
setting
it
on
the
shelf
and
and
he's
just
published
a
book
which
is
great
like
kind
of
public
history.
But
I
think
a
lot
about
like.
A
Is
there
a
way
to
connect
up
the
work
that
the
city
archaeologist?
Does
that
connects
with
these
native
histories
with
these
earliest
communities
and
then
find
a
way
to
actually
tell
that
story
in
art
and
make
it
like
accessible
to
people?
Because
we
have?
We
have
two,
I
think
too
deep,
a
back
catalog
and
not
not
enough
of
a
front
catalog
like
for
people
to
kind
of
interact
with
on
some
of
what
we've
been
investing
in
on
the
history
front.
O
And
joe's
been
a
part
of
those
those
inter-departmental
conversations
too.
So
I
almost
wonder
if
the
two
commemorative
events
that
you're
talking
about
coming
up
could
be
a
good
thing
for
that
group
to
also
work
toward
because
right
now
it's
been
just
kind
of
informal
information
sharing
and
seeing
like
where
we
could
be
supportive
of
each
other,
but
that
could
be
a
good
way
to
orient
us
towards
towards
something
more
actionable.
That
would
be
great
yeah,
that'd.
A
Be
awesome,
okay!
Well,
we
will
work
on
that
and
then
I
guess
just
pivoting
back
to
you,
kate,
and
I
am
I
am
mindful
of
time-
we're
gonna,
let
you
guys
go
in
a
minute
and
I
don't
think
I
have
any
public
testimony,
but
this
is
my
flag
to
central
staff.
If
I
do
please,
let
me
know
the
so
I
mean
I'll
ask
oed
about
the
million
dollars
for
the
hard
hit
industries,
but
I
guess
I'd.
A
Ask
you
more
conceptually
like
like,
like
what
do
you
think
would
really
make
a
difference
in
terms
of
accelerating
our
recovery
in
the
kind
of
tourism
and
tourism
sports
entertainment
space,
I'm
just
so
mindful
again,
because
I've
just
seen
it
like
I've.
Had
these
it's
not
just
that.
I
have
the
garden
in
the
ballpark.
It's
that
I
have
this
whole
economy
around
them
that
have
just
like
cratered
over
the
last
year,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
broader
city
conversation
about
the
arp
funding.
A
There's
going
to
be
lots
of
stakeholders
in
the
mix
like
you
know,
some
of
that
can
be
used
for
like
direct
economic
assistance,
and
I
guess
I
just
wonder
since
I
have
you
here
from
sort
of
where,
where
you
sit.
A
What
feels
like
the
kind
of
impacts
facing
one
of
the
things
I
think
a
lot
about
in
these
types
of
moments
is
sometimes
it's
about
like
it's
about
catching
people
in
the
moment
of
decision
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
like,
if
you're
a
shop
owner
who's,
just
like
under
an
incredible
amount
of
stress
and
you're.
Looking
at
the
debt
you've
built
up
from
the
pandemic
and
you're
like
and
you're
sort
of
in
this
moment
of,
like
am
I
going
to
give
it
a
go,
or
am
I
not
like
the
city
can't?
A
But,
like
you
know,
can
we
affect
that
decision
and
sort
of
people's
feeling
of
the
climate
and
where
we're
going
and
it's
the
same
thing
for
getting
people
to
like
if
somebody
hires
their
first
worker
out
of
a
diverse
pipeline,
their
first
returning
citizen,
their
first
youth
like
once
they
do
that,
then
they
hire
another
one,
another
one,
there's
so
many
things
that
are
like
super
contingent
on
these
like
moments
of
decision.
So
I
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
what,
where
you
think
we
should
be
going
on
this
front.
Q
Sadly,
the
the
number
one
barrier
that
is
making
everything
so
difficult
is
something
we
have
absolutely
zero
control
over,
because
until
the
city
is
open,
it's
really
hard
to
correct
all
of
these
things,
and
we
can't
do
anything
to
make
the
numbers
go
down
faster
and
and
make
businesses
open
quickly.
I
mean
that's
the
the
biggest
gripe
we
get
is
with
you
know,
having
to
limit
numbers
and
and
those
kinds
of
things
and
those
are
all
public
health
initiatives.
Q
I
would
say
giving
us
the
the
funds
to
expand
and
continue
this
tourism
campaign
is,
is
a
really
good
first
step,
we've
never
done
it.
I've
been
here
for
11
years.
We've
never
done
a
tourism
campaign
before
so
being
able
to
reach
out
to
these
neighborhoods
and
small
businesses
that
we've
never
and
saying
like
we're
going
to
try
to
get
people
to
come
here.
Q
It's
all
very
new
and
and
has
been
received
very
well,
and
it's
really
exciting
for
us
as
a
department
to
be
able
to
do
all
this
sort
of
new
these
new
things.
Just
with
the
announcement
on
monday
of
being
able
to
open,
open
things
up
and
the
mayor's
encouragement
of
sort
of
small,
like
these
small
sort
of
safe
festivals,
that's
going
to
allow
us
to
to
hire.
Q
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
some
of
our
staff
is
just
temporary
workers
that
come
in
and
our
crew
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
haven't
been
able
to
work
because
we
haven't
had
any
events
and
we
sat
and
had
a
meeting
about
how
we're
gonna
try
to
get
make
this
an
opportunity
for
somebody
to
have
their.
Q
Q
We
did
things
before
and
cara
and
I
were
just
had
a
meeting
last
week
of
how
we're
gonna
program
city
hall
plaza
and
how
we
can
maybe
create
some
sort
of
easy
access
for
artists
and
musicians
that
want
to
do
things
in
spaces.
Where
you
know,
space
is
hard
to
find
in
the
city.
So
we
have
all
these
new
ideas
and
the
we're
just
so
excited
to
have
people
back
and
help
people
through
the
process.
We've
streamlined
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
access
to.
Q
So
if
you
want
a
public
event
application,
then
you
you
know,
then
we've
streamlined
all
of
that
and
made
a
lot
of
things
a
lot
easier
and
we're
just
moving
forward
with
making
things
easier
and
opening
up
to
as
many
people
as
possible.
A
That
said,
I
think,
what's
scary,
is
the
like
trepidation
about?
What's
the
point
at
which
we
all
realize
that,
like
a
business
that
we
thought
was
hibernating
is
not
coming
back
right
and
kind
of
like
a
little
bit
of
the
like
wreckage
that
you
only
see
after
the
storm
dynamic,
and
so
I'm
just
exercised
about
like
is
there?
Is
there
I
think.
Q
That's
why
it's
been
so
important
and
that
we've,
you
know,
we've
joined
forces
with
a
lot
of
different
departments
that
maybe
we
wouldn't
have
communicated
with
so
much
before
in
the
past,
but
working
really
closely
with
small
business,
so
that
when
I
hear
about
a
restaurant,
that's
not
making
it,
I
can
call
small
business
and
they
can
offer
their
support
or,
if
I
know
somebody's,
having
an
issue
with
their
licensing,
I
can
call
consumer
affairs
and
then
you
can
all
work
out
together.
Q
So
it's
like
we're
this
team
of
people
just
trying
to
help-
and
I
think
that-
and
we
have
these-
you
know
these
public
information
sessions
every
week.
So
people
can
ask
questions.
I
think
the
more
we
can
do
that
the
more
sort
of
transparent
our
hope
is
the
more
we
can
tell
people
how
we
can
help
them.
Q
I
think,
is
the
better,
because
I
think
that
was
something
that
a
lot
of
people
maybe
didn't
know
about
before,
and
a
lot
of
the
programs
didn't
exist
before
so
you
know
even
things
like
a
b
local
campaign.
I
had
a
I
had.
You
know
like
the
green
fest
and
the
the
the
local
food
festival.
Q
I
had
a
meeting
with
them
yesterday
we're
trying
to
think
of
ways
like
how
are
we
to
get
people
all
over
the
community
to
find
out
about
this,
and
you
know,
and
then
I
called
small
business
who's
doing
the
be
local
and
I
said:
can
we
advertise
these
events
on
your
app
and
you
know
just
trying
to
coordinate
efforts
to
make
sure
people
know
what's
going
on
in
every
neighborhood
in
the
city?
I
think
will
go
a
long
way.
O
Kate-
and
I
have
been
having
a
lot
of
conversations
about
this
too,
and
I
think
you
know
there
is
going
to
be
a
need
still
for
direct
relief
funding
for
performing
arts
venues
and
presenters.
I
think
that's
just
going
to
be
a
reality,
because
this
is
also
just
like
a
communications
question.
Consumer
confidence
question
which
oed
is
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
we're
participating
in
a
couple.
O
Different
studies
to
see
you
know,
even
just
because
you're
going
to
be
at
100
capacity,
100
capacity
by
september,
doesn't
mean
that
people
are
going
to
show
up
and
pack
that
space.
So
I
you
know
earned
revenue
is
still
going
to
be
a
really
big
question.
We
don't
really
know
how
people
are
going
to
behave
yet,
but
I
think
the
more
that
we
all
cooperate
on
on
one
message
about
what
that
looks
like
to
come
back.
The
more
people
will
have
confidence
to
do
so,
but
they're
still
going
to
be
just
regular
capital
costs.
O
Business
costs
required
to
reopen
right.
Some
some
places
are
going
from
having
two
staff
to
needing
60
staff
in
order
to
have
a
season.
So
I
think
just
the
more
we
know
the
details
of
that
the
more
we
can
at
least
make
smart
relief
investments
in
those
businesses.
A
Yeah,
no,
that's
really
helpful
car
yeah.
I
I
think
people
are
gonna
roar
back
as
somebody
who
personally
went
and
just
subscribed
to
the
full
season
of
a
theater's
like
I
I
mean
you
know
I
just
I
just
feel
like
we've
all
been
missing
it,
and
and
but
I
agree
with
you
that
people
are
gonna
need,
there's
gonna,
be
real,
smoothing
needs
and
there's
sometimes
people
just
they
can't.
They
can't
make
the
leap
across
the
gap
without
more
support
from
from
all
of
us.
A
So
so
we'd
love
to
you
know,
work
with
you
and
get
more
thoughts
on
that,
especially
in
relation
to
the
arp
funds.
Just
a
quick
two
quick
last
things,
one
is
just
to
kate.
I
would
be
remiss
not
to
say
as
the
counselor
for
mission
hill
that
we
were
disappointed
not
to
be
in
the
all-inclusive
boston
thing.
It
was
one
of
the
neighborhoods
that
was
sort
of
left
out
in
the
original
map,
which
obviously
caused
some
considerable
controversy.
A
It
was
looped
into
fenway
kenmore,
but
also,
but
then
not
not
a
focus,
not
something
with
any
visuals.
Not
you
know,
and
I
think,
like
mission
hill
is
very
proudly
its
own
neighborhood.
It's
also
like
in
this
category
of
neighborhoods
we're
sharing
and
highlighting,
like,
I
think
very
much
you
know,
has
a
great,
really
robust
main
streets
district,
a
lot
of
great
locally
owned
restaurants
and.
Q
A
A
I
do
think
because
the
governor
just
made
these
announcements,
there's
gonna,
be
a
bunch
of
people
trying
like
I've,
already
heard
it
from
some
of
my
neighborhoods
people
are
like,
oh
well,
I
know
everything's
canceled
for
the
summer,
but
like
could
we
pull
something
together
because,
like
I
think
people
are
antsy
to
see
each
other
and
be
out
and
about
and
folks
are
getting
vaccinated?
So
if
people
are
trying
to
pull
together,
you
know
something
for
this
summer.
Let's
say
you
know,
I
think
you
referenced
kate,
this
sort
of
safe
small
size.
A
Q
If
you
want,
I
would
say
I
would
tell
them
to
fill
out
a
a
special
event
application,
because
the
calendar
is
getting
so
many
people
pushed
all
their
stuff
to
the
fall
that
the
those
things
are
getting
busy,
but
now
that
they
have
an
idea
of
what
you
know
what
they
can
do
in
these
in,
like
you
know,
next
week
or
the
week
after
then,
they'll
walk
you
through
and
look
at
a
calendar
and
then
they
meet
with
bps
and
transportation
and
all
of
those
people
to
see
what's
available
when
and
where.
Q
So,
I
would
say,
fill
out
a
public
event,
application
first
and
and
the
mayor's
office
of
consumer
prison
licensing
can
walk
them
through
the
process
or
they
can
contact
me,
and
I
can
help
them
through
it
all
right.
Great.
A
O
Yeah
we
have
a
deadline
coming
up.
I
think
in
the
beginning
of
june
and
yeah
june
4th
and
we'll
have
an
info
session
or
a
q.
A
available
on
that
and
julia
ryan
is
the
point
person
in
our
office.
I
think
what
we
should
do.
Nida
is
follow
up
with
christina
on
our
team
and
just
make
sure
that
the
council
has
the
advertising
like
marketing
stuff
that
we've
been
putting
together
for
that
deadline
in
particular,
because
that's
probably
the
most
useful
for
somebody
planning
for
the
summer.
A
All
right
well,
thank
you,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
with
us
and
and
and
for
staying
through
a
fairly
long
hearing.
We
really
appreciate
all
of
your
work
on
our
behalf
and
we're,
I
think
you
know,
I
think,
that
on
on
both
fronts,
there's
some
exciting
new
investments
to
help
us
deal
with,
of
course,
a
really
hard
year.
A
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
also,
for
I
mean
you
made
reference
to
it
in
a
very
positive
way:
kate,
the
fact
that
you
and
everybody
have
been
all
hands
on
deck.
You
know
working
together
as
a
collaborative
team,
but
you've
also
been
all
hands
on
deck.
I
think
you
know
in
both
departments
all
year
in
a
way
that
none
of
us
expected
you
know
14
months
ago,
so
just
want
to
give
lots
of
credit
on
that
front,
and
with
that
I
think
I
don't
see
any
public
testimony.