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Ways & Means Hearing-Dockets #0760-0768 FY24 Budget: BFD
A
Good
morning,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
Tanya
Financial
Anderson,
the
district
7
City
councilor
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Boston
city
council
committee
on
ways
and
means
this
hearing
is
being
recorded.
It
is
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
forward,
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Dash,
Council,
Dash,
TV
and
broadcast
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Xfinity
channel
8,
RCN,
channel
82
and
FiOS
channel
964..
A
The
council's
budget
review
process
will
Encompass
a
series
of
public
hearings
beginning
in
April
and
running
through
June.
We
strongly
encourage
residents
to
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a
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public
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The
full
hearing
schedule
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budget.
A
Our
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dedicates
public
testimony
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Wednesday
May
17th
at
6
pm.
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A
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A
Docket0763-0765-20766
orders
for
Capital
fund
transfer,
Appropriations
Doc
is
zero;
seven,
six,
four:
zero,
seven,
six,
seven
to
zero;
seven,
six,
eight
orders
for
the
capital
budget,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements.
Our
Focus
area
for
this
hearing
will
be
an
overview
of
the
FY
24
budget
for
the
Boston
fire
department,
with
a
focus
on
fire
prevention
and
fire
operations.
A
panelist
for
today's
hearing
are
Paul
Burke
fire,
commissioner
and
chief
of
Boston
fire
department,
Boston
Robert,
color,
color,
Breezy,
Calo
Breezy.
Thank
you.
A
For
our
format
for
this,
for
this
hearing,
I
will
go
to
the
administration
first
to
my
Council
colleagues,
for
an
opening
statement,
then
to
Administration
for
presentation,
then
we'll
go
to
round
one
of
questioning
if
there
are
any
public
testimony,
we'll
take
them
at
that
time
and
then
to
a
second
public
testimony
and
if
time
allows
a
third
with
closing
statements
without
further
Ado
councilor
Murphy,
you
have
the
floor
30
seconds
for
your
opening
statement.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
for
being
here
looking
forward
to
the
conversation,
thank
you
for
all
you
do
for
the
city
and
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
we
fund
you
properly
hoping
after
you
present
and
the
questions
I
hope
to
get
from
this
hearing
are
around
what
seems
to
be
a
substantial
decrease
in
the
Personnel
budget
and
how
we're
going
to
address
that
the
cadet
program
also
the
contract,
where
we
are,
how
far
out.
Maybe
that
can
come
up
here,
also
happy
that
you
know
the
seaport
Firehouse
is
there.
B
C
You,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
panel
and
to
the
commissioner
for
being
here,
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
our
colleague,
Council
Flaherty
as
well
this
morning
about
some
of
these
issues.
I
know
he
is
not
feeling
well,
but
I.
Both
of
us
wanted
to
highlight
several
issues
that
I'll
ask
later
car
five.
What
is
the
status
of
car
five
I
want
to
make
sure
that
our
Boston
fire
Personnel
working
in
and
around
Mouse
and
cows
at
the
headquarters
are
are
protected,
feel
safe.
C
I
would
like
to
focus
on,
but
I
do
know
we
have
the
best
Fire
Department
in
the
country.
We
have
the
best
Fire
Department
in
the
country,
because
we
have
the
best
men
and
women
that
are
firemen
and
firefighters
and
I'm,
proud
to
Proud
to
work
with
you.
Madam
chair,
thank
you
for
giving
me
an
extra
minute.
Thank.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
this
morning.
I
have
a
few
particular
questions,
but
I
really
look
forward
to
the
conversation
this
morning
and
and
hearing
what
we're
working
on
and
what
your
vision
is
going
forward
in
terms
of
this,
this
year's
budget,
so
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation.
Thank.
A
F
Chair,
thank
you
for
having
us
councilman
Murphy,
Flynn
Rayden.
Thank
you
also,
I'd,
just
like
to
quickly
list
the
five
major
accomplishments
from
fy23.
Last
year
we
completed
the
construction
of
new
engine
42
rescue
2..
We
broke
ground
and
began
construction
on
new
engine
17
and
Latta.
Seven
in
Dorchester
we
recruited
and
high
at
32
fire
Cadets.
F
F
F
That's
a
cost
of
1.3
million.
We're
also
like
to
build
another
new
Initiative
for
the
new
year
would
be
to
build
a
firehouse
in
the
seaport
District.
This
district
has
grown
in
both
square
footage
and
office
space
along
with
residential
and
lab
space,
and
we
would
like
to
move
the
Marine
unit
to
a
new
Firehouse
over
there.
F
Excuse
me
to
improve
the
safety
and
health
and
wellness
of
firefighters
and
to
preserve
and
prolong
the
useful
life
of
these
structures,
and
one
of
the
most
important
things
is
we'd
like
to
identify
a
new
location
for
our
Special
Operations
Command.
The
fire
department
has
been
evicted
from
our
current
location
for
the
Special
Operations
Command
in
Brighton,
Harvard
University
on
the
property,
and
they
gave
us
till
July
1st
to
move
out.
F
A
A
A
A
H
A
Okay,
okay:
here
we
go
and
this
would
be
the
organ
or
chart
for
the
fire
department.
First,
of
course
the
lead
is
the
fire
commissioner
and
then
the
chief
of
operations,
chief
of
operation,
Support
Services,
Deputy,
Commissioner,
Labor,
Relations
and,
of
course,
Deputy
Commissioner,
administrative
and
finance
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
go
as
fast
as
possible
through
this.
A
So
here
you
have
fy24
recommended
versus
fy23
spending
personnel
and
the
FY
24
being
in
the
red
and
the
red,
colored
and
FY
24
recommended
internal
and
external,
and
then
spending
and
encumber
FY
23
in
blue,
and
you
can
see
the
comparisons
there
again.
I
won't
read
out
every
single
detail,
but
you
should
be
able
to
have
a
outline
breakdown
in
the
next
slide.
A
A
A
A
B
F
B
F
I
B
Okay
and
then
on
the
residency
is
there
a
push.
I
know
that
I
mean
I'm
a
strong
supporter
of
The
Residency
program
and
making
sure
that
city
jobs
are
going
to
city.
Kids.
I
know
that
we
do
have
concerns
around
some
departments,
with
the
low
wages,
the
High
Cost
of
Living
and
there's
the
lack
of
a
pool
of
people
to
interview,
but
I
feel,
like
the
fire
department
you're
in
a
very
different
position
right,
you
have
waiting
lists
of
people
trying
to
get
in.
You
also
have
good
wages.
F
I
think
we're
very
fortunate
as
if
you
compared
us
to
the
police.
My
statement
to
everybody
that
wants
to
know
is
this:
well,
thousands
of
people
applying
to
be
firefighters
every
two
years
they
take
the
exam,
the
police
aren't
so
fortunate,
so
our
job
is
very
desirable
and
residency
is
part
of
the
job.
It's
part
of
the
application
process,
the
mandatory
residency
once
they
hired
for
10
years.
So
it's
a
it's
a
big
deal.
It
goes
to
City
residents.
B
C
F
On
that,
we
have
not
been
allocated
the
money
to
to
reinstate
that
District.
The
district
is
like
I
said
in
my
opening
statement
is
very
densely
populated
with
hospitals,
schools,
Laboratories
and,
and
a
chief
officer,
in
my
opinion
and
I,
think
everybody
here
she
is,
that
is
very
important
and
an
incident.
The
initial
firefighters
will
be
there
within
four
minutes,
because
that's
our
response
time
within
the
city,
we
have
the
best
response
time
of
any
public
safety
agency,
but
they
go
inside
the
building.
The
chief
is
outside.
He
sums
it
up.
F
What's
going
on
asks
for
more
resources,
it's
an
important
role
currently
that
guy
is
not
there
that
man
or
woman
is
not
there
for
a
long
time,
because
he
has
to
come
from
another
part
of
the
city
and
I'm
hoping
nothing
happens.
I'm
hoping
the
city
council
agrees
with
us
that
it's
an
important
position.
Thank.
C
You
the
thank
you,
commissioner
I
know.
I
know
we
do
agree
with
you.
I
know
this
was
a
priority
for
a
lot
of
us.
Council,
Flaherty
kind
of
took
the
lead,
but
I
know
it's
a
priority
for
us.
Commissioner,
let
me
let
me
go
into
mass
and
cast
the
the
headquarters
at
at
the
fight
of
fire
department.
In
my
opinion,
you
know
you
know:
I
love
the
fire
department.
I
think
the
building
itself
is
an
embarrassment
the
outside
of
the
building,
how
it's
falling
down.
C
Many
of
you
knew
my
Uncle
Dennis
that
worked
over
in
the
maintenance
department
unsafe
really
over
in
that
area,
but
the
people
that
do
work
there.
What
can?
What
are
we
doing
to
make
sure
that
they
are
safe?
They
are
healthy,
they're
working
in
an
environment,
that's
healthy
for
them
and
their
family.
F
Oh
there's
many
things
recently
the
best
move
that
happened,
I,
don't
know.
If
you
can
say
we
were
involved
in
it
was
moving
the
people
that
live
out
in
the
street
to
the
side
street
Atkinson
Street.
When
they
were
on
the
Main
Street,
it
seemed
to
be
more
violent
towards
us.
They
were
breaking
throwing
rocks
through
the
window.
There
were
a
lot
of
needles
on
the
ground.
I
had
to
put
a
fence
up
in
front
of
our
whole
property
since
they
moved.
They
only
come
up
once
a
day
when
they
clean
that
area.
F
So
it
seems
a
little
safer,
I've
I
took
down
the
big
fence.
I
had
encompassing
the
whole
front
of
the
building,
and
I
I
had
two
gates
installed,
so
they
can't
get
in
the
parking
lot.
Those
are
closed
at
five
o'clock
and
locked
every
night,
but
but
you
know
I
think
it's
it's
improved.
Since
they
moved
around
the
corner.
The
city's
been
helpful.
They
agreed
to
move
the
crowd
around
the
corner.
The
violence
towards
us
has
slowed
down
a
lot,
so
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
F
C
F
Agree
with
the
commission,
I
think
and
one
effect
of
the
the
neighborhood
on
Aaron
is
our
employment.
The
civilians
do
not
want
to
work
there,
they're
not
highly
paid,
so
it's
they
should
get
combat
pay
for
coming
in
every
day
and
they
they
paid
them
very
low.
So
it's
very
difficult
to
fill
vacant
positions
because
of
that
location
where
the
headquarters
is
thank.
C
You,
commissioner,
we
we
certainly
deserve
this
city
deserves
a
state-of-the-art
fire
headquarters.
I
know
you
support
that.
We
talked
briefly
about
the
potential
for
a
fire
presence
in
the
South
Boston
Waterfront.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
advocacy.
Thank
you
for
the
fire
department.
Thank
you
for
the
the
men
and
women
of
the
fighter
department
for
never
stop
advocating
for
that
as
well,
including
members
of
members
of
Local
718
as
well.
C
F
F
If
we
can
continue
to
support
a
bigger
drill
class
each
time
we
get
the
opportunity
to
hide,
it
would
be
fantastic,
but
other
than
that
it
has
to
go
to
overtime
because
we
are,
the
city
has
minimum
Staffing
on
fire
trucks
and
it
and
it
affects
our
insurance
rating,
the
whole
City's
Insurance
rating.
So
we
have
to
stay
at
a
certain
level
and
to
do
that,
we
hire
over
time
now
to
keep
the
Staffing
at
that
level.
C
F
I
added
two
more
people
to
the
unit.
There
was
a
captain
by
himself,
so
I
added
a
lieutenant,
a
firefighter
to
the
lab
inspection.
That
is
not
enough.
Staffing
to
look
at
all
the
labs.
The
labs
is
such
a
complicated
thing.
Every
lab
is
producing
a
different
product
could
be,
has
it?
Maybe
it's
not
hazardous
the
city.
F
Certain
contractors
want
to
put
residential
attached
to
the
labs
which
I
don't
agree
with,
because
we
don't
know
what's
going
on
in
these
Labs,
but
the
labs
are
they're
growing,
with
the
real
estate
market
and
and
the
businesses
working
from
home.
A
lot
of
these
vacant
buildings
are
becoming
Laboratories
for
the
universities
and
the
hospitals.
So
I
think
it's
key
that
we
at
least
double
a
triple
the
staff
at
the
labs
Department
in
the
fire
prevention.
C
I
I
agree:
I
I
have
Fortune
500
companies
calling
me
up.
They
want
to
go
to
the
South
Boston
Waterfront
and
they
say
to
me
council
president
Flynn,
why?
Why
do
you
talk
about
inspectors?
Are
you
saying
you
don't
have
enough
inspectors
on
the
fire
department
for
these
labs
and
I
say?
Yes,
we
don't
have
enough
inspectors.
We
have
a
neighborhood
without
adequate
city
services,
police,
Fire,
EMS,
well
getting
a
firehouse.
They
were
going
to
get
an
EMS
presence
there,
but
we
need
the
inspectors.
C
C
F
D
F
B
D
F
D
I
know
I,
agree
and
I'm
what
I'm
making
for
I
know.
Councilor
Flynn
and
Council
Flaherty
have
been
making
a
pitch
for
a
new
Firehouse
in
the
in
the
seaport
for
years
now
and
anticipating
and
knowing
what's
coming
and
what's
already
happened
like
if
in
District
9
alone,
like
our
popular
week,
we
have
an
80
000
population
and
we
have
millions
of
square
feet
of
new
Labs.
But
it's
been
built
and
I'm
really
going
to
put
it
on
the
agenda
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about.
D
We
did
the
Westerner
of
corridor
study,
it's
all
about
labs
and
and
increased
density
and
residential
and
but
to
serve
us
all.
This
new
development
we're
going
to
need
we're
going
to
need
EMS
and
we're
going
to
need
fire
and
so
I'd
put
down
a
marker
and
say,
let's
be
planning
for
a
new
Firehouse
North
of
the
pike.
D
D
D
The
access
across
the
average
Street
Bridge,
the
average
Street
bridge,
is
very
narrow
and
with
all
this
new
new
development,
it's
going
to
be
really
difficult
to
get
into
North
Brighton
North
Austin
in
an
emergency,
so
I
would
really
put
it
on
them.
Put
down
a
marker
and
say
yes,
we
need
to
be.
We
need
to
be
doing
this
and
and
making
a
plan
to
we're
doing
a
neighborhood
needs
assessment
and
I.
Think
thinking
about
Emergency
Services
infrastructure
is
going
to
have
to
be
an
important
piece
of
that
conversation.
E
E
F
Sell
this
whole
city
yeah,
you
should
Pony
up
some
finances
for
this.
They
really
should
who
are
we
protecting
other
than
the
citizens
of
Brighton
and
Austin
Harvard
University
and
their
Laboratories
and
all
their
classrooms
on
the
Boston
side,
they
should
have
some
say
in
finance
in
this.
They
should
be.
You
know
a
public-private
partnership
for
a
firehouse.
They
should
have
a
role
in
this
I.
Don't
know
how
they've
got
away
this
far
without
helping
with
the
city
services,
the
the
public
safety
agencies,
that's
key
to
any
growth.
F
Why
do
they
get
a
pass
with
the
kind
of
income
that
they
pull
in
in
their
endowment
with
the
billions
of
dollars?
I,
don't
know
who's
in
charge
of
the
planning
for
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
city
or
if
it's
Harvard,
just
saying
oh,
they
didn't
mention
it.
Well,
don't
don't
bring
it
up,
we'll
save
money
on
it,
but
this
is
terrible
that
they
can
build
and
build
and
build
and
take
residences
away,
and
they
don't
provide
any
infrastructure
like
Public
Safety.
This.
D
Should
not
be
allowed
yeah,
so
the
other
issue
is
that
our
EMS
station
over
there
is,
is
going
to
be
moved
because
we
want
to
develop
it's
an
Harvard
home
site
as
well
they're
going
to
be
moved
in
the
near
future.
They
have
a
temporary
place
for
them,
but
one
scenario
that
I
could
think
about
would
be
a
an
Emergency
Services
Center.
That
would
would
co-locate
EMS
and
fire
department
together.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
politically
okay
but
I
really
see
that
that
might
be
a
might
be
a
solution
that
we
should
be.
F
Thinking
about
yeah
that
would
that
would
work
for
us.
I
mean
we
work
in
tandem.
We
run
together,
like
I,
said
earlier,
I'm,
not
trying
to
say
anything
bad
about
other
agencies,
but
we
have
the
best
response
of
any
public
safety
agency
in
the
city.
So
we
get
there.
Ems
is
summoned
at
the
same
time
and
they
show
up
there.
They
have
their
calls
tend
to
be
longer
because
they
have
to
go
to
the
hospital
they.
E
D
F
D
I
D
F
That
I
don't
have
any
information
on
this
fire
prevention
I
feel
to
ask
them
about
that,
but
they're.
On
top
of
that,
we're
training
all
the
time
on
extinguishing
these
vehicles,
we
had
one
catch
fire
on
Boylston
Street
the
other
day,
and
we
had
to
leave
an
engine
there
the
whole
time,
because
these
batteries
blow
up
and
keep
on
burning.
I
F
F
We
have
a
fire
of
the
whole
tow,
yet
so
it's
a
dangerous
situation
that
we're
we're
looking
at
it.
Every
fight
apartment
is
the
National
Fire
Prevention
Association
in
Quincy,
who
sets
the
standards
they're
writing
the
standard
on
the
appropriate
ways
to
fight
fires
when
it
comes
to
the
electric
vehicles
and
I'm
sure
they'll
incorporate
storage
of
them
and
what
to
do
with
them.
F
E
D
F
D
A
A
A
F
A
F
Oh
there's
a
need,
yeah,
we
replaced
three
engines
and
two
ladders
every
year
and
we
also
replace
about
10
cars.
We
have
a
fleet
of
approximately
300
cars
and
they
they
wear
out.
They
have
to
be
replaced.
So
we
we
do
that
every
year,
I,
don't
know
why
it's
saying
that
we
didn't
use
any
of
that
unless
they
came
from
another
part
of
the
budget.
But
you
know
we
purchased
guys.
I
know
we
did
last
year.
A
F
I
could
I
have
a
list
here,
there's
new
firehouses
that
I'm
embarrassed
that
we
work
in
these
firehouses
engine
18
in
Dorchester
was
built
in
the
1800s.
It's
practically
fallen
down.
It's
in
terrible
condition.
I
would
give
anything
to
get
that
building
replaced.
I
think
the
Dorchester
Community
deserves
a
better
Firehouse
than
they
have.
We
are
replacing
one
in
another
section
of
Dorchester,
but
engine
18
serves
a
very
densely
populated
area
at
Ash
one
square
and
that
the
quarters
there
it's
just
not
adequate
engine
37
over
at
on
Huntington
Ave.
F
F
Said
yeah
it's
in
tough
shape
and
Wentworth
is
chopping
at
the
bit
to
get
the
property
so
we'd
like
to
sell
it
to
them
and
have
them
build
us
a
new
Firehouse
in
a
public
private
partnership
that
would
be
fantastic.
It
would
be
minimum
cost
to
the
city.
It's
just
dealing
with
the
university
like
that,
like
that,
have
it
across
the
river
there
they're
not
too
open
to
giving
money
out,
you
know,
but
they
they
want.
The
property.
They've
approached
us
several
times.
I.
F
F
Three:
it's
right
behind
the
Cathedral
on
Harrison
Ave,
his
uncle
worked
there,
it's
a
great
Firehouse
I
was
the
captain
there
myself,
it's
a
single
engine
with
one
specialty
truck
in
it
and
it's
my
belief.
I
think
I've
said
this
before
this
is
a
police
station
beside
it
right,
so
there's
a
basketball
court.
So
we
leave
them
in
that
Firehouse.
We
build
a
new
firehouse
on
the
on
the
basketball
court
and
then
we
tear
down
the
firehouse
and
put
the
basketball
court
where
the
firehouse
was
because
the
firehouse
was
on
a
corner.
F
It's
tough
to
get
the
apparatus
in
and
out
with,
you
know,
five
intersections
coming
together
and
it's
a
very
needed
Firehouse,
because
the
highway
and
and
the
other
thing
I
always
thought
about
was
the
cathedral
is
such
a
big
building.
It
creates
a
wind
tunnel
and
if
we
ever
put
one
of
those
windmills
on
the
roof
of
it,
because
I
used
to
have
to
change
the
flag
every
two
or
three
months,
because
the
wind
just
tore
the
flags
up
on
the
roof.
F
F
so
because
the
fire
department
has
mutual
agreements
with
everybody,
The
Encore
Hotel,
we
would
go
to
that
Encore
Hotel,
even
though
it's
in
Everett
and
and
it's
just
building
up
over
there
they're
going
to
take
down
the
whole
Rutherford
they're,
going
to
reduce
the
size
of
Bunker,
Hill,
Community,
College
and
and
build
mixed
Laboratories
and
residential
over
there.
So
the
population
is
going
to
increase
over
there.
There's
two
firehouses
one
has
an
engine
and
a
ladder,
the
other
one
just
has
an
engine,
so
they
need
help
over
there.
F
These
areas,
like
Council,
of
breeding,
the
these
isolated
areas
in
the
city
and
Brighton
and
Austin,
is
one
of
them.
East
Boston
is
another
one,
Charlestown
is
another
one.
South
Boston
is
another
one:
they
have
one
or
two
firehouses,
but
their
help
from
other
firehouses.
It's
not
there
so
they're
on
their
own
those.
Luckily
those
members
threw
that
ladder
up
and
got
the
person
off
the
roof
if
they
were
busy
and
they
had
to
come
from
Boston
Proper.
If
you
will
to
help
they'd,
be
a
long
way
off
waiting
for
help.
F
So
it's
ideal
to
have
as
many
firehouses
in
a
neighborhood
an
isolated
neighborhood
that
South
Boston
is
a
peninsula.
You
get
in
one
way
you
get
out
the
other
Brighton!
You
have
the
highway.
You
can't
get
over
there
if
you
can't,
so
the
help
has
to
be
there
so
I
mean
I'm
a
big
advocate
for
new
firehouses.
We
need
them.
A
A
F
F
A
big
priority,
yeah
I
personally,
know
members
of
that
building
that
have
been
stricken
with
cancer
and
I
I,
don't
know
if
it's
from
the
building
or
not,
but
it's
a
terrible
building
and
it
serves
a
great
neighborhood
that
deserves
a
better
building
than
that
they
don't
even
have
parking.
They
don't
have
room
on
the
front
of
the
building
to
pull
the
trucks
out.
They
have
to
pull
them
across
the
street
to
check
them
every
morning.
F
Yeah
so
yeah
and
that's
key
every
morning
we
have
to
check
the
fire
trucks,
make
sure
all
the
equipment
works,
because
when
an
emergency
comes
it's
too
late
to
check
it,
then
so
they
have
to
drive
across
the
street,
throw
the
ladder
up
spin.
It
around
check
all
the
tools,
because
there's
no
apron
there
for
them
to
do
it
on
the
sidewalk.
They
have
20
feet,
maybe
a
lot
of
trucks
longer
than
that
the
engine's
longer
that
Firehouse
is
number
one
priority.
Engine
18
in
Dorchester.
F
Oh
car
five's,
Huntington
app,
the
one
I
just
talked
to
you
about
with
Wentworth,
so
it
used
to
be
a
chief
in
there
and
that
was
no
longer
a
chief.
It's
just
an
engine
and
a
ladder,
but
that
Chief
was
the
busiest
Chief
in
the
whole
city
and
we
shut
him
down.
He
was
everywhere
and,
like
I,
said
the
hospitals,
the
schools
over
there
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
that
area
and
they
have
to
wait.
The
closest
Chief
is
coming
from
Eggleston
square
or
downtown
Columbus
Ave.
A
A
F
F
F
A
F
F
A
A
A
F
F
So
in
our
maintenance
facility
we
have
a
contracted,
auto
parts
department
and
that's
I,
believe
the
contract
is
over
a
million
dollars
a
year.
So
when
a
truck
breaks
they
go
into
this
auto
parts
department
and
get
a
new
part
and
replace
the
part.
So
that's
the
contract,
the
maintenance
people
again
Council
Flynn's
uncle
was
in
charge
of
Maintenance.
There's
a
lot
to
keep
these
old
buildings
going
like
I
said:
half
of
them
will
build,
probably
in
the
early
1900s.
F
Probably
a
quarter
of
them
were
built
in
the
1800s,
so
maintenance
is
a
big
expense.
It's
it's
unbelievable.
What
happens
these
build
the
doors
break?
The
lights
don't
go
on,
I
mean
the
water
leaks
that
one
I
told
you
about
in
Ashmont
they
had
a
soil
line
break
over
the
stove
when
they
were
cooking
from
the
upstairs
bathroom
and
raw
storage
went
all
through
the
stove
I
mean
come
on.
People
don't
live
like
this,
so.
F
Didn't
well,
they
played
the
takeout.
They
have
an
oil
pit
in
the
kitchen,
with
it's
just
a
big
plate,
a
diamond
plate
and
opens
up.
They
must
have
dumped
oil
in
it
for
the
first
hundred
years
that
the
firehouse
was
there
when
they
changed
the
oil.
So
here's
another
thing
with
the
firehouses
fire
houses
that
have
Kitchens.
On
the
first
floor
with
the
trucks
every
the
condiment
is
diesel
exhaust?
That's
what
they
put
on
every
piece
of
food
they
eat.
The
diesel
exhaust
floats
the
particles
go
in
the
food,
it's
unsanitary,
it's
not
safe.
F
F
A
K
Morning
I
agree,
commissioner,
you
have
a
wonderful
voice,
nice
to
speak
with
you
yeah
this,
this
issue
of
entry-level
people,
making
40
40,
Grand
and
and
Madam
chair
all
the
maintenance
that
you're
talking
about.
We
go
crazy
talking
about
contracts
that
aren't
going
to
communities
that
that
need
help.
K
Department
I
was
a
skilled,
a
skilled
Tradesman
only
making
50
grand
for
the
city
for
the
city
of
Boston,
but
but
there's
so
much
that
we
could
do
if
we
looked
at
getting
rid
of
contracts,
so
my
department
just
to
say
we're
off
the
the
fire
department,
but
it
has
relevance
to
the
fire
department,
the
police
department.
They
all
have
these
huge
contracts.
That
years
ago
we
said
we
can't
do
that.
K
Let's,
just
you
know,
have
outside
people
coming
in
and
there
is
some
value
in
it,
but
there's
also
value
in
having
your
own
person.
The
commission
can
say:
hey
toilet's
blocked
down
there.
Can
we
get
you
guys
out
there
and
have
it
or
or
I
was
going
to
just
call
it
what
we
would
call
it
in
the
trades?
K
Your
main,
your
main
line,
it's
you
know
if
we
have
our
own
people,
something
to
repair
that
on
a
Saturday
night
or
something
you're
talking
50
Grand,
our
own
people
would
go
to
in
there
on
overtime,
so
I
went
off
a
little
bit.
There
I
agree
that
we
need
to
look
at
those
those
people
that
are
working
for
us
they're.
Not
making
enough.
Can
I
ask
you.
What
are
those?
What
unions
do
you
guys
have
with
you
under
like
your
civilians?
Who
are
they
like?
What
are
they
SEIU.
F
F
Don't
have
a
HVAC
person
right,
I
get
I,
get
heat
in
every
Firehouse,
33
firehouses
headquarters,
and
so
I'm
gonna
sub
that
out.
So
then,
if
I
had
an
in-house
person
doing
it,
they
would
know
these
these.
This
piece
of
equipment
and
they'd
know
it
intimately
yeah.
Now
I
got
a
different
contract
every
two
years
that
goes
now.
What
is
this?
Now
we
never
worked
on
those
yeah
yeah.
You
know
and
that's
the
case
with
electrical
and
everything
else.
We
do
have
electricians,
but
it
how.
F
That's
no
problem,
not
they're
separate
they
yeah.
We
had
two
for
a
while
I
just
hired
two
more
because
they
were
budgeted
and
nobody
replaced
them.
So
they
do
all
the
In-House
Electrical
work.
It's
very
rare
that
they
have
to
sub
out
work
because
yeah
they
do
it.
They
know
what
they're
doing
well,
they
know
the
buildings
they've
been
to
them
a
million
times,
so
they
know
the
circuits
and
everything
else.
It
works.
Well.
I
agree
with
you.
F
F
K
You
know,
hence
we
need
to
get
back
to
doing
our
own
work.
We
had
advocated
in
the
past
for
bringing
kids
out
of
out
of
Madison
Park
to
work
on
your
trucks.
Your
vehicles
would
help
you
with
with
contracts.
We've
been
unable
to
pull
it
together,
but
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
and
sorry
for
coming
late
and
and
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
cadet
program
a
little
bit
it
would
there
be
a
possibility?
K
Would
you
guys
be
open
to
to
get
the
cadet
program
almost
like,
because
nobody's
really
asking
my
opinion
about
Cadets
and
do
you
have
anybody
you'd
like
to
put
on
but
I
think
that
the
these
seats,
these
nine
District
seats
and
four
four
at
large
seats,
should
have
a
say
on
like
we
should
have
just
like
they
do?
You
know
your
Congress
person
has
someone
to
be
able
to
go
into
West
Point
or
to
Annapolis
something
like
that.
I
think
the
same
should
apply
here
with
the
fire
Cadet
program.
K
F
F
K
F
I
Excellent
yeah
every
year
the
class
informs
the
the
next
bit
of
Outreach
I'll
go
on
record
with
just
respectfully
disagreeing
with
by
the
pointees
and
things
of
that
nature.
But
you
can
definitely
encourage
constituents
from
your
communities
to
apply.
We
have
a
very
fair
and
Equitable
process
where
we
look
to
interview
candidates.
I
I
Their
Cadet
program-
yes,
sir,
so
from
there
candidates
are
then
given
a
fitness
evaluation
and
we're
able
to
take
all
of
the
data
all
of
the
information
reconvene
and
look
at
each
candidate
and
provide
a
list
of
candidates
to
the
commissioner
and
the
commissioner
can
appoint
I
think
it
takes
away
nepotism.
It
takes
away
any
issues
around
favoritism
or
issues
around
government
officials
influencing
a
process
or
favors
we're.
I
Absolutely
so
absolutely,
however,
if
you
refer
somebody
to
us
again,
it's
not
an
appointee.
We
guarantee
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
interview
that
candidate,
whether
or
not
family
members
aside
I'm
not
going
to
penalize
a
kid,
because
they
have
a
family
member,
that's
ascended
to
a
city,
councilor
seat
or
any
other
governmental
official
seat.
We
want
to
be
able
to
vet
the
individual,
determine
their
interest
and
their
experience
toward
this
position
towards
dysfunction
their
potential
to
be
become
a
firefighter.
I
Fire
department,
one
of
the
yeah
one
of
the
absolutely
Charlestown
High
hat,
also
has
a
a
legal
and
protective
studies
program
and
in
track,
and
so
we
look
to
Target
those
particular
high
schools
and
then
again,
looking
at
other
colleges
and
community
colleges
with
anyone
that
has
interest
in
helping
that
wants
to
pursue
this
profession.
We
we
encourage
them
to
apply
and
apply
over
the
course
of
their
their
eligibility
18
to
25
years
of
age,
Madam.
K
I
This
is
our
inaugural
year,
so
we
don't
have
the
data
that
we
suggest
that,
if
I'm
using
bpd's
model
in
terms
of
what,
what
where
I,
had
the
opportunity
to
oversee
that
program
from
2017
to
2022.,
we
had
about
a
85
retention
rate.
So
85
percent
of
the
Cadets
that
were
hired
went
on
to
become
a
police
officer.
K
I
I'll
say:
I'll
put
a
marker
down
now
to
say
we're
going
to
have
a
better
rate,
because
we've
we've
improved
upon
the
model
by
having
mandatory
evaluations
as
far
as
Fitness
and
workouts,
so
we'll
be
working
with
them
throughout
their
two
years,
plus
to
make
sure
that
they
can
handle
the
physical
requirements
of
Academy.
How.
I
I
A
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I,
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
commissioner
and
to
senior
staff
for
being
here
and
participating
in
this
hearing.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
incredible
work
you
do
every
day
on
behalf
of
the
residents
of
the
city
of
Boston,
as
was
evidenced
just
recently
as
yesterday
in
the
tragic
incident.
But
every
day
I
began
my
legal
career.
One
of
my
earliest
cases
was
working
with
the
fire
department.
L
After
one
of
my
clients
was
burned
out
of
our
home
and
so
have
a
tremendous,
just
foundational
appreciation
for
the
work
that
you
do
and
want
to
go
on
record
with
my
at
large
city
councilor
at
the
clarity
and
support
of
car.
Five
I
know
that
we
tried
last
year
be
the
budget
to
support
that
I.
Had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
the
cadets
at
Town
Fields,
the
weeks
are
blur
I
believe
last
week.
L
Yes,
yes,
and
it
was
it
was,
it
was
wonderful.
I
met
some
of
the
other
attorneys,
some
of
the
other
firefighters
other
elector,
who
is
also
there,
and
so
it
was
really
great
to
see
a
young
hungry,
diverse,
a
class
of
folks
from
the
city
of
Boston,
who
are
going
to
be
our
future
firefighters
and
so
I'm
excited
about
that
question
about
and
then
last
summer
I
had
the
opportunity
of
of
visiting
white
Stadium
where
there
was
the
BFD
teen
Academy,
which
was
superb
and
just
thinking
about.
L
Are
there
any
formalized
ways
of
the
BFD
Tina
folk,
our
young
people
who
participate
in
the
teen
Academy
transitioning
into
full-time
employment?
Is
there
a
formal
preference,
I
think
Michael?
You
were
there
when
yeah.
So
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
do.
Michael
I
know
it's
and
you
do
incredible
work
at
pushing
equity
and
diversity
in
the
fire
department
and
generally
in
our
city,
so
I.
Thank
you
but
yeah.
If
you
wanted
to
respond
to
that.
I
Teen
Academy
has
been
running
since
2017.,
okay,
any
candidate,
that's
a
graduate
of
our
teen
Academy
is
guaranteed
an
interview
to
become
a
Cadet.
If
you
apply
and-
and
we
can
confirm
that
you
were
participated
in
the
teen
Academy,
we
guarantee
you
an
interview
doesn't
guarantee
you
the
slot,
because
hopefully
you've
applied
what
you've
learned
in
the
teen
Academy
in
terms
of
leadership
and
professional
development
and
can
apply
that
in
a
professional
setting
and
take
care
of
the
details
that
we're
asking
of
you
but
they're
guaranteed
an
interview.
I
And
again
our
teen
Academy
is
is
kind
of
a
microcosm
of
of
what
our
Cadet
program
is,
which
is
again
a
good
representation
from
across
the
city.
So
our
hope
is
to
be
able
to
continue
the
the
teen
Academy
and
partnership
with
the
Department
of
Youth
Employment
and
engagement
and
put
out
those
feelers
and
plant
seeds
for
folks
that
can
then
participate
in
the
teen
Academy
and
hopefully
become
a
Cadets.
L
Great,
so
they
would
have
done
the
full
pipeline
of
the
Teen
Academy
of
the
cadet
program
and
firefight.
That's
wonderful
question
regarding
how
does
a
Cadet
program
like
there's
a
civil,
the
Civil
Service
processor,
just
how
folks
traditionally
get
into
the
fire
department
and
there's
a
Cadet
program?
Can
we
can
you
talk
about
how
the
cadet
program
is
interacts
with
the
Civil
Service
process.
I
Yeah,
so
every
Cadet
would
need
to
pass
a
civil
service
test
in
order
to
be
appointed
to
an
academy
class
after
two
years
of
working
with
the
fire
department.
The
commissioner
has
the
ability
to
appoint
Cadets
to
that
next
Academy
class
provided
they've
met
all
the
requirements,
eligibility,
including
the
passing
of
a
civil
service
test
and.
I
If
we
plan
it
correctly,
if
the
commissioner
has
the
ability
to
point
up
to
a
third
of
a
class,
let's
say
we're
budgeted
for
60.
So
when,
when
the
commissioner
asks
for
60
instead
of
45,
if
we're
budgeted
for
60-
and
we
have
20
Cadets
that
are
ready
to
go
into
an
academy
class
now
we
can
make
a
call
for
the
list
for
40.,
and
the
commissioner
can
now
appoint
20
Cadets
that
are
ready
to
go
into
that
Academy
class.
I
I
I
If
we
retain
half
of
the
women
that
were
in
the
class
now
in
2025,
you
can
see
that
a
greater
impact
can
be
made
just
by
the
commissioner
having
the
ability
to
appoint
now
provided
we'll
look
at
this
in
an
equitable
way,
where
Cadets
can
separate
themselves
based
on
their
Performance
Based
on
how
how
well
they're
doing
in
an
academy
or
in
the
through
the
cadet
program.
But
it's
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
a
commissioner
to
have
an
impact
on
on
an
academy
class.
Thank.
I
We're
Bound
by
the
Civil
Service
law
in
in
selection,
so
our
discretion
outside
of
say
a
Thai
group.
The
commissioner
technically
has
the
ability
to
select
from
that
tide
group.
The
practice
of
the
department
in
the
past
has
been
a
lottery
where
we
literally
put
names
into
a
Turner
and
and
select
those
names
BPD.
Does
it
a
little
bit
differently
in
that
the
commissioner
can
select
from
that
tied
group?
What
that,
commissioner,
the
past
Commissioners
would
do
when
I
was
present,
would
ask
for
recommendations.
I
I
I
would
say
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
build
on
skills
within
the
department,
language,
skills
and
language.
Certifications
are
some
things
that
we're
able
to
to
petition
the
civil
service.
If
I'm,
looking
at
a
list
and
I
see
someone
with
a
language
skill,
especially
that
represents
a
a
greater
population
within
the
city,
Cape
Verdean,
Creole,
Haitian
Creole.
If
I
look
at
9-1-1
calls
and
I
look
for
translations
and
things
that
nature
we're
just
building
our
abilities
set,
and
so
that's
another
way
where
we
can
kind
of
address
and
grow
as
a
department.
I
I
So
when
you,
when
you
say
preference,
there's,
there's
language,
certifications
that
you
can
request
and
petition
civil
service
to
Grant
you,
it's
not
a
guarantee,
but
they
can
approve
of
that.
And
so
every
time
a
department
can
ask
for
certain
languages.
You
have
to
display
data,
provide
data
that
would
support
that
petition
and
then
you
can
hope
for
them.
Granting
that
a
certain
number
of
people
that
speak
a
certain
language
that
are
fluent
in
a
certain
language.
So
at
BPD
we
made
those
same
petitions
in
my
tenure
there.
I
Over
five
years
we
were
granted
language
certifications,
sometimes
sometimes
we
were
denied,
so
it
all
kind
of
depends
in
my
short
tenure
here
the
last
year
this
year
we
just
made
a
call
for
the
list
and
we
were
also
granted
language
preferences
or
language
certification.
So
it's
a
kind
of
looking
at
a
certain
number
that
you're
able
to
hire
based
on
what
Civil
Service
provides.
You.
L
Great
I
have
one
more
question:
Madam
chair
is
that
okay,
it's
okay!
Thank
you,
I,
think
and
I'm
great
for
that
and
I
and
I
I'm
grateful
the
language
certification
being
able
to
help
us
diversify
and
and
get
folks
who
speak
the
language
of
our
residents.
I
think
there's
more
work.
We
can
do
there
in
terms
of
Outreach
to
communities
that
traditionally
are
not
underrepresented,
like
Asian
community
in
our
fire
department.
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
can
be
doing
there
with
different
organizations.
I
I
can
take
that
civil
service
test
as
a
as
an
active
duty
military
applicant
and
then
whether
I'm
from
Worcester,
Marlboro
anywhere
I
have
90
days
from
separation
in
order
to
have
that
residency
preference
for
the
city
of
Boston,
if
I'm,
coming
out
as
a
disabled,
veteran
I
have
preference
on
that
list,
above
even
veterans.
So
if
I
score
a
90
as
a
disabled
veteran
and
a
veteran
scores,
99
I
would
still
be
ranked
higher
than
that
particular
applicant.
I
Non-Veterans
would
be
below
disabled
veterans,
veterans
and
and
other
kind
of
preferences
that
are
within
in
Civil
Service
statute,
but
it
can
be
difficult
if
I'm,
not
if
I'm
a
non-veteran
from
the
city
of
Boston.
If
you
look
at
the
eligible
list
right
now,
we
make
a
call
for
the
list
for
safe
a
class
50
100
people
plus
any
ties.
I
100
of
those
will
be
disabled
veterans,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
that,
just
from
A
diversity
standpoint,
if
one
in
ten
military
candidates
are
people
of
color,
one
in
26
plus,
could
be
women.
Our
applicant
pool
is
going
to
reflect
that,
and
so
it
can.
It
can
be
difficult
for
us
to
to
look
at
a
diverse
applicant
pool.
I
If
we
continue
to
rely
on
the
Civil
Service
selection
process,
we
will
do
better
at
working
with
recruiters
army,
military
recruiters
and
providing
other
types
of
events
and
activities
to
discuss
those
challenges.
Again,
where
you
just
mentioned,
the
lack
of
representation
of
Public
Safety
for
Asian
Americans
on
Thursday,
we're
hosting.
I
But
this
is
an
example.
This
is
the
month
where
we're
recognizing
a
lot
of
that,
so
we're
actually
hosting
a
discussion
with
Mass
state
police,
Boston
police
and
in
one
of
our
own,
to
talk
about
the
disparities
in
the
Asian
American
Pacific
Islander
communities
to
to
really
talk
about
some
of
those
obstacles,
so
superintendent,
chin
from
BPD
Captain,
Anthony
dear
and
from
Mass
state,
police
and
Mejo,
as
a
veteran
firefighter
we'll
be
talking
about
that
within
the
community.
L
B
You
have
the
floor
sure.
Thank
you.
Just
two
follow-ups
one
is
on
the
cadet,
but
also
wanted
to
talk
about
the
special
units
we
talked
earlier
about
the
cut
to
maybe
a
half
a
million
to
personnel,
and
we
know
that
that's
a
domino
effect
often
that
we
then
can't
promote
if
we're
not
getting.
You
know
from
behind
and
Shout
out
also
the
Marine
unit
Fleet,
which
you
know
like
yesterday,
the
dive
team.
Many
people
don't
even
realize
that
our
Boston
Fire
have
a
dive
team
right.
So
thank
you
for
that.
B
Also,
your
volunteer
food
truck
I
often
think
how
you
show
up.
You
know
all
First
Responders,
but
especially
firefighters
and
probably
people's
worst
day.
Their
house
is
on
fire
that
then
maybe
become
homeless
car
accidents.
You
know
just
loss
of
life,
so
just
thinking
ahead
about
the
special
units
and
is
that
going
to
affect
and
I
know.
B
We
said
we'd
talk
more
about
it
when
we
kind
of
look
into
those
numbers
and
what
that
might
mean,
but
on
the
cadet
you
mentioned
that
the
police
have
a
85
percent
retention,
but
earlier
when
I
asked,
you
said
it
was
a
third.
So
if
we
have
32
students,
that's
about
10.5,
so
11
Cadets
would
probably
be
able
to
move
on
to
the
Academy.
B
I
I
Yeah,
okay,
so
there's
two
kind
of
separate
questions
there:
okay,
so
the
cadet
program,
you
can
work
for
two
years
and
have
preference
we
can
keep
them
longer.
So
if
I'm
18
I
can
technically
work
until
I'm
28,
so
the
85
percent
retention
for
a
BPD
is
reflected
in
I'm
hired
as
a
Cadet
and
then
eventually
become
a
police
officer.
So
that's
85
retention
as
it
relates
to
because
that's
being
hired
and
then
going
into
an
academy
for
our
program.
I
If
we
look
at
2025-
and
let's
say
we
have
32
Cadets,
that
would
have
retention
at
that
particular
time.
A
third
of
them
close
to
a
third
of
them
would
be
eligible
for
for
appointment.
As
long
as
we
kept
it
consistent
with
the
numbers
that
we'd
be
asking
for.
If
we
got
a
grant-
and
maybe
you
know
again-
we
had
90
exactly.
You
know
that
we
had
in
2022
we
had
a
grant
for
for
90.
We
would
have
close
to
30
30
Cadets
ready
to
go.
B
And
I
appreciate
that
you
know
it's
the
first
year,
so
we
don't
have
past
data.
But
what
is
the
date
we
plan
on
bringing
in
the
second
group
of
cadets
and
will
previous
applicants
have
preference
in
interviews
if
they
made
it
almost
all
the
way,
but
just
didn't
get
picked,
then
there
was
really
no
reason
that
would
make
them
not
be
eligible.
If
they
apply
again
will
they
have
preference
for
interview?
And
what
time
do
you
think.
I
If
we
said
this
time
next
year
is
a
time
frame
that
we
would
look
to
hire,
32
and
I
would
personally
invite
anyone
that
applied
last
time
and
didn't
get
on
to
to
actually
apply
again.
I
I,
don't
want
to
I
want
to
shy
away
from
the
word
preference.
If
they
were
a
finalist,
they
would
certainly
be
a
strong
candidate
for
the
next
time
and
again,
they
would
personally
be
encouraged
to
I,
would
personally
reach
out
to
them,
encourage
them
to
apply
again.
A
So
most
of
my
focus
is
going
to
be
about
how
do
we
support
people
that
are
historically
disenfranchised,
and
so
in
terms
of
the
discrepancy
in
the
department
and
outside
of
the
cadet
program,
like
what
else
is
being
done
and
also
the
question
about
in
terms
of
preference?
The
same
could
be
said
right.
So
let's
say
that
an
elected
official
or
someone
in
the
department
did
not
tell
you
that
they
have
a
family
member.
Applying
they
don't
want
any
favors.
The
cadet,
the
the
candidate
is
a
great
candidate.
A
The
same
could
be
said
that
someone
in
the
cadet
program
could
retaliate
if
they
don't
like
the
elected
official.
So
I
think
that
we
have
to
be
very
careful
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we're
very
transparent
about
the
process
because
I
we
do
get
a
lot
of
answers
and
my
our
job
here
is
to
not
only
be
transparent,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
there's
fairness
across
the
board,
so
the
it
would
seem
that
the
cadet
program
purposes
is
to
increase
diversity,
but
the
numbers
the
ending
number
felt
like
it
wasn't
very
diverse.
A
Can
you
speak
to
that,
and
can
you
explain
to
me
how
many
people
applied
their
demographics?
How
many
people
actually
was
approved
and
their
demographics,
and
do
you
feel
as
someone
who
is
striving
to
build
diversity
in
the
department?
Do
you
feel
that
the
cadet
program
is
successful
and
how
can
we
make
it
better.
I
Oh
absolutely
so
thank
you
for
the
question
Madam
chair
one.
We
are
very
excited
at
the
outcome
of
the
applicant
pool.
We
don't
have
the
data
on
the
number
of
applicants
in
terms
of
their
demographics.
We
don't
on
our
side
through
isoms.
We
can't
see
race,
gender
or
anything
of
that
nature.
We
can
only
see
once
we've
started
to
to
interview
the
candidates
close
to
70
percent
of
the
candidates.
Right
now
represent
underrepresented
communities,
especially
as
relates
to
gender.
I
Again
I
mentioned
28
of
the
cadets
are
are
women,
and
so
we
feel
we
have
a
good
start
28.
So
nine
women
in
in
the
current
Cadet
class
of
the
overall
population,
again
30,
30
or
close
to
40
percent,
are
white
American,
but
a
third
of
those
are
women.
So
again,
if
we
looked
at
underrepresented
communities
within.
I
I
I
I
So
I'm
referring
to
the
actual
Cadets,
so
we
can
provide
you
the
total
number
of
of
folks
that
were
interviewed.
We
do
have
that
data
I,
don't
have
it
with
me
today,
but
for
the
most
part
our
Cadet
finalists
represent
pretty
consistent
with
the
number
of
candidates
that
we
had.
So
it's
pretty
consistent
with
the
number
of
people
that
applied
end
result
were
the
best
candidates
that
we
felt
applied
to
the
position.
A
I
A
I
Yeah,
so
they
start
to
go
down
as
again.
Each
candidate
provides
an
application
and
is
vetted
through
our
investigators
as
well
and
they're
observed
throughout.
So
if
we
have
an
orientation
and
they're
supposed
to
be
on
time
for
an
orientation
and
they're
late
for
an
orientation
that
has
an
impact
ultimately
in
the
candidates,
final
selection,
as
well
as
any
other
observations.
I
E
A
A
I
A
I
E
I
They
didn't
really
have
a
a
shortage
of
Cadets
that
would
be
eligible
to
go
into
a
Cadet
class
based
on
or
to
an
academy
class
based
on
the
number
of
recruits.
So
if
you
had
an
upwards
of
125,
you
could
appoint.
You
know
up
to
a
third.
You
had
30
plus
Cadets.
That
could
be
ready,
and
so
there
was
never
an
opportunity
for
there
to
be
tie
breakers
for
BPD.
We're
anticipating.
I
I
A
civil
service,
exam,
yeah
I
believe
it's
100
or
99,
but
again
you
don't
have
to
take
the
civil
service
exam
in
order
to
be
a
Cadet.
You
have
to
take
the
civil
service
exam
at
some
point
during
your
tenure
in
order
to
be
appointed
to
an
academy
class,
and
all
you
have
to
do
is
pass
that
okay,
Cadets
are
civilian
employees,
yeah.
E
I
A
I
I
A
Please
I
think
I'll
pause
for
my
colleagues
and
come
back
to
more
budget
questions.
I
appreciate
your
work
and
increasing
diversity.
I
think
the
sorry
before
I
go
back
to
you
guys.
The
second
part
of
my
question
was
what
else
is
being
done
outside
of
the
cadet
program?
I
it.
It
just
feels
like
we're
chasing
the
carrot
and
it's
just
a
small
number
in
comparison
and
then
85
percent
of
80
32
is
still
low
per
year
to
increase
diversity.
So.
I
I
If
we
looked
at
three
years
down
the
road,
if
we
retained
80
percent
or
even
85
percent
of
just
the
women
that
applied
that's
a
significant
impact
in
an
academy
class
in
2025.,
so
again
not
to
suggest
that
we're
only
going
to
have
the
85
retention,
but
Cadets
make
around
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So
sometimes
that
retention
has
to
do
with.
I
I
I
A
I
It's
a
it's
a
start.
It's
a
start
based
on
what
we
have
at
our
disposal.
So
it
is
a
start.
I
would
say
again
if
you
say
we're
going
to
have
a
64
by
this
time
next
year
that
so
now
we
have
64
applicants.
The
majority
of
those
applicants
will
probably
be
Boston.
City,
kids
or
a
majority
of
them
are
going
to
be
Boston
cities,
kids,.
E
I
I
E
A
I
A
I
Terms
of
progress,
yeah
and
again
I'm
happy
to
sit
down
with
you
and
talk
to
you
about
the
the
the
progress
that
we
made
with
BPD
in
the
cadet
program.
When
you're
saying
it's
just
20,
it's
a
third
you
know,
and
so
again,
if,
if
the
council
says
hey
your
next
budget,
we're
gonna
give
you
90,
based
on
your.
I
Of
them
so
now
we
have,
we
have
the
ability
to
have
even
more
of
an
impact
and
again
99,
and
it
is
consistent
with
the
numbers
of
people
that
might
be
retiring
as
well.
We
had
some
large
classes
happening
in
the
90s,
so
we're
anticipating
a
lot
of
people
becoming
eligible
to
retirement
as
well
as
mandatory
retirement,
and
so
we
will
need
more
numbers.
I
We
will
need
more
support
and
resources.
The
cadet
program
is
just
one
strategy
that
we
have
when's
the
next
class.
We
just
made
a
call
for
the
list,
so
we'll
have
another
class.
This
fall
again.
We
were
granted
language
certifications
for
that,
so
we
can
increase
our
abilities
for
second
languages.
F
Soon,
maybe
sooner
we're
talking
about
September
date
to
start
the
process,
so
Michael
would
like
to
do
half
and
I'm
fighting
them
on
and
I
want
to
do
all
class.
So,
but
he
says
so
the
the
not
fighting
him.
But
what
do
we
do
with
64.
all
that
the
same
children,
but
and
all
those
clerical
workers
that
are
only
making
forty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
are
all
lined
up
to
grab
these
Cadets
to
help
them
in
the
building,
because
they
there's
such
a
shortage
of
civilians.
I
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
again
to
the
panel
I
guess
I'm,
going
to
dovetail
off
of
the
question
because
I
was
doing
had
my
budget
book
here
was
looking
at
the
line
item
for
the
cadet
class
and
I.
Did
the
math
and
I
was
like
oh
there's,
no
way
that
that's
the
the
salary
that
our
Cadets
are
making,
but
it
you
know
and
I
think
the
math
is
somewhat
off.
First,
for
whatever
reason:
when
I
do
the
math,
it's
about
22,
000,
you're,
saying
it's
30,
so
there's
a
math
issue.
L
L
I
L
I
L
Always
I
always
worry
about
this
from
like
how
are
we
teaching
or
showing
our
young
kids
that
this
is
an
investment,
because
that's
not
a
lot
of
money
and
sometimes
especially
for
folks
who
come
from
underrepresented,
historically
excluded
groups
where,
like
they
need,
they
need
money
to
like
help
with
their
family.
They
have
to
pay
bills,
they
need
to
pay
rent.
They
you
have
to
pay
for
school.
L
I
I
It's
hopefully
a
two
to
three
year
process
where
you
then
go
into
a
client,
an
academy
class
where
you're
making
triple
which
what
you'd
be
making
as
a
Cadet.
So
it's
a
it's
a
sacrifice.
Yes,
I
would
say
if
you
were
looking
at,
you
know,
budget
and
increasing
run
for
in
our
shop
right
now
there
there
are
there
not
in
a
collective
bargaining,
so
you
know
we
can
increase
you.
I
L
Yeah
and
I
understand
that
what
I'm
asking
I
think
is
a
little
bit
more.
It
has
to
be
from
sort
of
your
own
experience
in
the
recruitment
process
and
in
talking
to
applicants
and
potential
applicants,
whether
you
see
before
I'm
like
okay,
let's
crank
this
all
the
way
up.
I
do
believe
that
you
know
people
should
be
paid
just
wages,
especially
in
the
city
where
it's
the
second
most
expensive
city
to
rent
and
I,
understand
that
most
people
living
at
home
before
I
say
like
Crank
It
Up.
L
What
has
been
your
experience
and
talking
to
young
people?
Has
that
been
an
impediment?
Have
you
seen
an
equity
issue?
There
I
I,
understand
that
it's
a
sacrifice
and
that's
an
investment
talking
to
an
18
year
old
or
a
20
year
old.
Sometimes
they
may
not
understand
that
trade-off
and
I
want
to
know
I'm
not
on
the
ground.
L
You
know
I
did
blast
it
out,
share
it
with
everybody,
but
I
want
to
know
if,
if
you're,
seeing
that
low,
what
we
interpret
as
a
low
salary
right-
maybe
it's
you
know
for
some
18
year
olds,
it's
okay,
but
I'm,
saying
for
other
18
year
olds.
I
know
who
are
have
family
responsibility.
It's
not
and
have
you
seen
that
present
itself
as
a
barrier
as
an
equity
issue,
even
for
entry
into
the
cadet
program,
which
is
meant
to
make
sure
that
we're
diversifying
the
force?
Does
that
make
sense.
L
Right,
like
I,
could
go
to
Target
right
and
make
more
money.
We
see
that
in
our
the
youth
with
the
ye
programs
right
like
the
they're
getting
big
15,
they
go
to
Target,
make
17
18
and
even
though
the
ye
is
learn
and
earn,
maybe
they
get
a
better
life
term
lifelong
outcome
from
that
they
can
make
more
money
right
now
in
Target,
so
at
Target.
So
thinking
about
what
that
trade-off
is
and
if
our
young
folks
are
in
internalizing
that
with
them.
I
Yeah
I
would
be
happy
to
work
with
the
Department
of
Youth
engagement
on
the
study
on
that.
In
terms
of
you
know,
our
ability
to
recruit
we've
seen
people
from
a
you
know
socioeconomic
standpoint,
wherever
they
are
to
choose
this
this
opportunity
they
have
an
opportunity
to
also
have
a
second
job,
which
many
do
and
go
to
school.
Okay
I
was
one
of
those
candidates
that
came
all
the
way
from
the
West
Coast
here
working
full-time
and
went
to
school
full-time,
and
so
those
sacrifices
a
microcosm
of
your
life.
I
This
versus
this
and
really
trying
to
give
them
that
information
and
resources,
but
in
terms
of
people
making
decisions,
it's
a
tough
decision
to
make.
It
is
a
sacrifice,
it's
a
full-time
job
that
you
have
to
do
for
a
minimum
of
two
years
after
that,
two
years,
by
the
way
you
can
go
and
do
whatever
else
you
want
to
do
and
petition
the
commissioner
to
appoint
you
to
the
class,
so
you
don't
have
to
stay
as
a
Cadet
after
the
two
years.
E
I
Is
a
two-year
sacrifice,
but
there's
a
co-curricular
program
in
that
every
Cadet
that
comes
through
our
program
is
also
going
to
be
EMT
certified.
So
let's
say
after
the
two
years
they
decide
I'm
not
ready
to
be
a
firefighter.
I
want
to
go,
be
an
EMT
for
or
EMS
that
you
can
do
that
and
you
can
be
making
closer
to
sixty
thousand
and
then
maybe
come
over
and
again
continue
to
to
work
toward
ultimately
becoming
a
firefighter.
L
Awesome
incredible
I
have
one
other
line
of
question
that
relates
to
a
question
that
councilor
Baker
was
asking
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
do
work
internally,
rather
than
Contracting
out
when
I
look
at
the
line
item
for
maintenance,
tech
for
a
carpenter
for
a
painter
plumber,
another
plumber,
it
looks
like
it's
it's
mostly
like
one
one,
one
two
for
plumbers.
Is
that
an
area
where,
if
there's
to
be
Personnel
increase,
it
would
be
in
those
line
items
to
get
because
I'm,
assuming
is
this
like
one
Carpenter
for
the
entire
department?
Well,.
F
F
Oh
yeah
yeah
there's
only
one
plumber
at
the
current
time,
the
the
plumbers
have
to
contract
a
lot
of
work
out,
which
is
a
little
it's
expensive,
I
think
that's
wrong.
I
think
we
could
use
a
lot
of
In-House.
I
I
would
love
to
see
a
heating
person
in-house
that
could
fix
these
furnaces
because
we
have
to
sub
every
furnace
repair
out
and
it's
very
common
in
the
winter
they
have
these
old
buildings,
with
the
furnaces
malfunctioning.
L
F
F
F
You
know,
so
it's
getting
the
positions
filled,
getting
the
budgeted
that
that
would
be.
That
would
be
a
good
thing
for
all
of
us.
I
think
that
stop
giving
these
contractors
all
that
money
to
keep
it
in-house
I
just
want
to
say
one
other
thing
about
diversity.
We
have
a
program
called
Community
enrichment
program,
I,
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
it,
it's
a
basketball
league
that
is
run
with
the
view
you're
aware
of
it.
It's
pretty
cool.
The
councilors
are
all
the
count.
F
The
coaches
are
all
firefighters
and
they
interact
with
the
community
and
they
Advocate
the
players
to
be
firefighters
and,
and
they
set
a
role
model
that
really
I.
Think
Chief
Marshall
is
one
of
them
right,
yeah
he's
he
plays
the
old
man's
game,
but
they
like
to
beat
him
when
he
plays
so
yeah
yeah.
That's
a
great
another
outlet
that
we
access
to
the
community
to
prove
that,
because
a
lot
of
kids
don't
know
about
the
fire
department,
they
don't
have
the
interaction
with
the
fight
Department.
F
F
Yes,
yeah
and
so
to
come
in
contact
with
more
kids
in
the
neighborhood
is
very
important.
That's
why
I
advocate
the
firehouses
have
their
doors
open
all
summer,
so
people
can
come
and
go.
There's
a
restroom
on
the
main
floor.
They
can
talk
to
Firefighters.
It's
a
big
deal
to
just
reach
out
to
the
community
and
I've
said
before
it's
a
safe
haven
in
every
Community
we've
had
somebody
stabbed
recently
I
think
somebody
was
shot
and
they
rented
a
firehouse
right
around
the
corner.
F
L
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
agree
with
you
on
that
and
I
also
agree
with
you
on
union
wages
for
those
who
are
working
doing
the
work
in-house
right,
because
how
else
are
we
going
to
compete
for
not
offering
competitive
wages?
You
can
just
stay
in
a
family.
You
can
live
in
the
city
of
Boston,
where
you
can
retire
lit
work
and
retire
with
dignity,
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
support
that
and
I'd
love
us
too
on
the
council.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
because.
F
F
E
F
F
K
F
K
K
F
F
K
F
K
So,
to
put
it
in
perspective
back
to
the
printing
Department,
we,
our
our
budget,
was
a
million
dollars
a
year.
We
probably
printed
three
million
a
year.
We
never
charged
anybody
for
it,
and
now
you
wouldn't
even
be
able
to
you
wouldn't,
even
though
a
lot
of
is
just
copied,
you
wouldn't
even
be
able
to
get
a
price
on
how
much
we're
doing,
and
it's
probably
10
million.
F
Yeah
I
thought
that
was
a
terrible
thing
when
up
closed,
I
remember
going
to
the
building
before
it
closed
and
I
go.
You
got
to
be
kidding
me.
It's
probably
you
I
talked
to
that
was
so
upset
they've
been
there
so
long
and
they
just
said
you're
done
yeah.
It
reminds
me
of
the
police
horses
you're
done
no
more
horses.
K
K
F
K
F
A
A
The
clicker
won't
work,
so
I
was
trying
to
get
it
there
so
for
in
in
the
presentation
that
I
gave
you
everything
blue
on
page
31
is
fy24
in
millions,
and
so
when
you
go
down
the
list-
and
this
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
you've
got
enough
in
the
budget
but
just
wanted
to
assess
or
update
you-
that
engine
37
on
Huntington
Ave
is
on
the
capital
for
Harrison
Ave
car
five.
No
car
five
is
the
one.
That's
not,
but
engine
three
engine.
E
J
A
F
A
F
F
F
H
Yeah
I
believe
that's
that
was
from
a
grant
that
they're
currently
working
on
it
was
a
four-year
Grant
to
upgrade
all
these
Satellite
Systems
within
the
city.
I
think
there's
like
46
of
them
something
and
also
to
build
a
new
tower.
140
foot,
Tower
I
believe
in
Brighton
is
the
plan
for
that.
So
that's
moving
along
Okay.
A
F
It's
being
yeah
they're,
looking
the
Civil
Service
gives
us
a
list
and
we're
starting
to
look
into
interviewing
the
people
and
putting
a
number
on
everybody
to
pick
them
so
they're,
giving
us
45
15
are
going
to
be
foreign
language,
so
there'll
be
30
that
are
not
foreign
language
and
15
people.
We
asked
civil
service
for
15
language,
certifications,
so
they'd
be
different
languages
that
we
picked
the
representative
of
the
community,
so
that
was
generous
of
them.
They
usually
a
little
tighter
with
the
language
starts,
but
they
were
pretty
generous
this
time.
Okay,.
F
F
I
Based
based
based
on
the
numbers
of
people
that
are
coming
back,
you
know
that
enlisted
again
I
I'd,
be,
you
know,
pressed
to
say
you
know
we're
probably
going
to
be
reflective
of
those
that
are
enlisted
in
service
as
far
as
coming
back
as
disabled
veterans.
So
again,
it's
not
as
though
the
department
just
says
you
know
we
don't
want.
We
know
we're
better
with
with
more
applicants
from
different
walks
of
life
and
again
reflected
to
the
city,
but
we're
Bound
by
civil
service
in
terms
of
our
selection
process.
So.
A
I
But
you
know
right
now
we're
definitely
Bound
by
the
applicant
pool.
That's
provided
by
our
eligible
list,
however
Again
by
increasing
our
language
skills
within
the
department.
Sometimes
that
can
be
a
can
correlate
to
some
of
the
diversity
of
a
candidate,
especially
as
it
relates
to
Cape
Verdean
Creole
Vietnamese,
Cantonese,
Haitian
Creole.
So
those
language
is
that
that
we
were
granted.
We
know
that
we'll
have
at
least
15
that
could
be
representative
of
people
outside
of
or
that
would
include
underrepresented
communities.
I
They
do
not
oh
I
see,
however,
if
we
were
granted
Spanish
as
well.
So
if
I'm
you
know,
disabled
veteran
and
I'm
fluent
in
Spanish
as
well,
I
would
be
ranked
higher
than
a
non-veteran
as
well.
So
again,
those
numbers
and
things
kind
of
come
together.
Our
hope
is
to
again
just
be
able
to
to
work
with
a
civil
service
on
granting
us
language
certification.
I
A
F
Well,
we're
at
a
little
disadvantage
here,
because
a
finance
lady
left
on
us
in
April,
so
I
would
go
over
the
budget
with
her
the
previous
year
and
see
what
I'd
want
to
add
to
it.
What
ongoing
projects
we
have
on
new
projects
that
I
would
like
to
start
and
then
she
would
allocate
the
funds
and
and
put
it
in
the
proposed
budget
request,
it
could
be
Capital
could
be
operating,
and
then
we
come
to
you
when
see
what
happens.
You
know
thank.
A
F
F
I'd,
say
two
years
ago,
maybe
three
Grove
Hall
was
renovated
around
the
same
time,
they're
in
good
shape,
Columbia
Road
I
keep
up
on
that
one.
That's
a
good
one,
they're
pretty
good
shape.
That
Firehouse
was
design
Believe,
It
or
Not
May
a
curly
in
the
20s.
So
it's
been
around
a
long
time.
He
went
to
New
Mexico
took
a
trip
and
he
liked
the
Spanish
architect
here.
So
he
came
back
and
had
them
build.
The
firehouse
looks
like
a
Spanish
home
with
the
stucco
and
everything,
and
it's
it's
pretty
good.
It's
it's
solid.
F
A
Obviously
you
know
that
that's
up
to
the
mayor's
discretion
and
we
can
Advocate
I
think
the
process
is
that
the
mayor
needs
eight
votes.
Well,
eight
now
two-thirds
of
the
council
to
vote
for
the
capital
budget,
and
then,
if
we
disagree,
if
she
doesn't
get,
the
eight
votes
is
because
there's
at
least
five
of
us
saying
there
needs
to
be
some
adjustment.
So
hopefully
a
conversation
to
Advocate
for
you
to
get
I
really
do
appreciate
what
the
fire
department
does
for
all
of
us.
A
No
one
has
any
complaints
about
the
fire
department,
you
save
lives
and
you
work
extremely
hard.
Of
course.
Looking
into
that
overtime
budget
and
looking
at
numbers
and
capacity
to
offset
my
feed
my
feedback,
obviously
it's
just
to
increase
diversity
and
keeping
the
lens
a
diverse.
You
know
Equitable
lens
in
terms
of
hiring
process,
even
if
there
is
a
rank.
Obviously
you'll
get
a
pool
of
people,
but
I'm
quite
sure
that
you'll
be
disabled
veterans
that
are
black
and
brown
and
other
backgrounds
as
well.
C
A
First,
Sam
Dylan
will
go
to
a
public
testimony
as
far
as
you
know,
just
wrapping
up
the
conversation
about
hey
I'm
with
you
I,
don't
think
that
people
should
get
paid
I.
Think
it's
disrespectful,
I!
Think
if
you,
if
you
care
about
me,
you
respect
me.
If
you
respect
me,
you
pay
me
because
that
means
I
take
care
of
my
family
and
I.
Have
dignity
and
I
can
go
to
work
and
feel
proud
to
serve
my
city
and
you
know,
work
for
the
city.
A
So
it's
just
one
of
those
basic
human
rights
right
respect
me
because
I
do
my
job
and
I
deserve
to
take
care
of
my
family,
so
I
I'm,
very
interested
in
that
and
I'll
definitely
be
looking
into
that.
Whether,
through
the
amendment
we'll
be
looking
carefully
through
the
capital
to
talk
to
the
mayor
and
see
what
we
can
do
there,
but
we
can
obviously
move
funds
in
the
amendment
process
as
well.
A
A
J
You,
madam
chair
Sam,
Dillon
president
of
Boston,
firefighters,
Local
718,
representing
the
Boston
fire
department.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
and
speak
before
this
hearing
this
morning.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
and
Command
Staff
very
prepared
coming
in
here
this
morning
and
advocating
when
you
advocate
for
the
fire
department
you're
advocating
for
the
members
of
718,
so
I.
Thank
you
for
that.
J
I
would
like
to
just
briefly
kind
of
underscore
points
made
by
commissioner
Burke
as
718.
The
union
shares
many
of
his
priorities.
Obviously
Madam
chair,
you
and
I
have
had
conversations
about
car
five
beginning
last
last
year.
That
is
definitely
something
that
718
isn't
supportive
and
is
in
support
of
our
commissioner
and
advocating
for
I'd,
also
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
the
council
in
particular
council
president
Flynn
councilor,
Lodge
Flaherty
and
councilman
Murphy.
J
This
Firehouse
in
the
seaport
has
certainly
been
a
long
time
coming.
It's
been
a
necessary
topic
of
conversation
and
to
see
that
really
getting
off
the
ground,
courtesy
of
their
advocacy
and
their
cooperation
with
their
colleagues.
That's
that's
going
to
be
great
to
finally
have
as
the
city
expands
as
this
city
grows
and
changes.
J
So
does
the
demands
and
responsibility
on
the
fire
department
and
all
public
service
anything
that
changes
in
the
city.
It
changes
our
mission
and
it
changes
how
we
have
to
respond
to
keep
this
city
safe,
its
residents,
its
guests,
its
infrastructure.
So,
being
a
part
of
this
hearing
today,
hearing
some
of
the
conversations
that
took
place,
seeing
the
advocacy
on
behalf
of
our
Command
Staff
and
the
city
council
body
as
a
whole.
J
This
is
very
encouraging,
and
this
is
very
necessary,
I'm,
very
fortunate-
to
represent
people
who
are
the
greatest
Fire
Department
in
the
country
by
none
we're
very
proud
of
what
we
do:
I'm
very
proud
of
our
membership
and
in
order
to
continue
to
be
the
best.
In
order
to
continue
to
accomplish
our
mission,
we
need
the
city
council.
We
need
City
Hall.
J
We
need
these
bodies
of
government
that
we
do
serve
and
that
we
do
protect
to
give
us
the
tools
and
the
financing
that
we
need
to
continue
to
go
out
there
every
day
and
do
what
we
do,
which
is
to
serve
the
best
city
out
there.
I
appreciate
your
time.
Gentlemen.
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
chair
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
G
From
South
Boston,
my
history
is
my
family.
History
is
full
of
firefighters,
police
officers,
School
teachers,
everything
that
relates
to
this
city.
I,
want
to
thank
you,
gentlemen,
for
being
here
and
thank
Mr
President
from
Local
17
I
only
wish
the
gallery
was
full
of
firefighters,
so
they
could
express
some
of
their
views
as
to
what
reality
is
in
the
city,
and
they
are
my
heroes.
I
I
just
have
to
tell
you
that
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
too
much
other
than
if
the
mayor
is
listening
on
mayor's
assistance
and
listening.
G
Please
get
together
with
these
people
they're
all
decent
people.
We
have
to
get
a
cartoon
year.
Ex
without
a
contract
is
unheard
of.
It
shouldn't
be
that
way.
These
people,
my
family
members,
especially
in
a
couple
of
them,
ended
up
in
in
New
York
City,
when
9
11
happened,
volunteering
and
my
hero
of
all
heroes.
G
My
brother-in-law,
Bobby
nunnell,
is
suffering
right
now
from
what
happened
when
he
was
there,
volunteering
these
people
volunteer
for
everything
that
you
can
dream
of,
whether
it's
with
the
schools,
whether
I
know
they
were
saying
about
the
doors
being
open
in
the
fire
department.
I
grew
up
in
South
Boston.
My
mother
would
be
my
mother
would
be
at
the
Novena
up
at
the
Gate
of
Heaven
shirts
and
not
be
out
there.
Playing
and
I
fell
down
and
ripped
open
my
hand
from
first
place.
I
walked
into
was
the
fire
department.
They
took
care
of
me.
G
They
took
me
to
the
hospital
they
got.
You
know
let
they're
just
unbelievable
people
and
I
hate
to
sit
here
and
and
Lady
Madame
cheer.
I.
Really
thank
you
for
letting
me
you
know
go
on
with
it,
but
between
the
cadets,
which
I
think
hope
is
matter
of
fact,
one
of
the
Lanell
families
are
trying
to
get
into
that
I
think
she
got
accepted
into
the
cadet
program
and
I
hope
it
works
out
for
it's
in
their
blood.
It's
in
her
blood.
G
A
G
You
I
was
just
talking
to
one
of
the
age
that
her
brother
didn't
get
on
on
that
first
group,
but
I
what
I
say
to
them
all
and
I
say
to
you
is
never
take
no
for
an
answer.
Appeal
go
for
the
second
round
whenever
it
is
and
they're
just
good
people
that
are
trying
to
contribute
to
the
city
I'll,
let
it
go
with
that.
G
I
could
go
on
and
on
with
all
of
my
heroes,
whether
it's
my
nephew,
who
I
pinned
years
ago
as
a
chief
Provence
island
with
Joseph,
provenzano,
retired
provenzanos,
the
whole
bit
in
my
heart
goes
out
to
all
these
guys
and
I.
Give
you
whatever
support
I
can
wherever
we
can.
Thank
you,
lady
Madam
cheer,
for
letting
me
go
on
and
again
with.
G
Oh
there's,
one
name
I
just
wanted
to
mention,
if
you
don't
mind,
but
only
because
my
name
is
provenzano
I
see
a
name
here
that
says
calabresi
hello,
pleasure
to
meet
you
pleasure
to
meet
you
yeah.
Thank
you,
I'm,
a
little
biased
with
that.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me
in.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
time.
I
only
wish
there
was
a
lot
like
yesterday,
I
understand.
The
meeting
for
this
afternoon
is
canceled
and
for
the
the.
A
G
A
All
right,
thank
you,
so
much
so
through
I.
Think,
if
you
can
send
me
some
information
through
email,
you
don't
have
to
write
it
down.
We
will
email
it
to
you
officially
if
I
could
actually
get
the
demographics
for
BFD
if
we're
talking
about
equity
and
pay
and
all
that
stuff
I
think
it's
important
for
me
to
look
at
all
of
these
numbers:
women,
Cadets,
blacks
and
Hispanics
Asian.
A
All
of
that
priority
that
you
were
talking
about
in
terms
of
minority
hiring,
so
your
total
number
of
your
actual
firefighters
and
then,
of
course,
broken
down
by
demographics
and
then
broken
down
by
Rank
and
then
recruiting
plan
to
increase
diversity.
We
already
talked
about
that
and
then
of
course,
looking
at
ways
of
funding
that
class,
because,
honestly,
even
my
interns
don't
make
that
low,
it's
that's
pretty
bad,
but
we'll
we
can
have
more
conversations
about
it.
A
I
welcome
anyone
to
meet
with
me
or
have
conversations
in
front
of
the
conversation.
So
we
can
look
at
the
amendment
process
we'll
we
can
invite
you
back
into
our
working
session
so
that
it's
a
open
conversation,
so
you
can
give
input
in
terms
of
don't
do
that.
Don't
touch
that
money
and
maybe
over
here
or
whatever
it
is.
A
No
one
is
probably
well
I
shouldn't
speak
too
soon,
but
I
don't
think
anyone
is
looking
to
make
decreases,
but
rather
how
we
can
look
at
if
there
is
any
room
for
improvements,
then
that's
the
conversation
that
we're
thinking
about
at
least
that's
seems
to
be
sort
of
the
consensus
for
now,
but
I
again,
thank
you
and
reach
out.
If
you
have
any
questions
and
look
forward
to
further
conversation,
it's
Aaron's
turn.
Thank
you.
Thank.