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From YouTube: Committee on Ways & Means on July, 13, 2021
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Docket #0809 - An appropriation for costs associated with a new building for the William E. Carter School, for which the City may be eligible for a grant from the Massachusetts School Building Authority
C
D
C
C
So
this
is
exciting.
We're
gonna
hear
today
about
the
carter
school,
we're
joined
by
bps
and
by
the
public
facilities
department
that
oversees
the
construction
and
I'm
also
joined
here
by
my
colleague,
counselor
ed
flynn
of
district
2..
Councillor
flynn
did
you
want
to
say
any
opening
words.
I
know
you're
a
strong
advocate
for
the
carter
school
so.
E
Thank
you,
council
bark.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
public
facilities
team
to
the
boston
public
schools.
My
my
friend
mark
o'connor
who's,
the
principal,
but
also
thank
treasurer
deb
goldberg,
who
oversees
the
mass
school
building
authority
in,
in
certainly
the
the
taxpayers
of
the
city
in
in
the
state.
But
I
just
want
to
highlight
the
tremendous
work
of
the
carter
school,
its
principal
its
teachers.
E
They
do
exceptional
work
and
helping
our
most
challenged
students
and
they
do
it
in
the
most
positive
environment
and
there's
no
better
hour.
I
spend
throughout
the
year
than
spending
it
with
the
students
and
the
the
teachers
at
the
carter
school.
It's
it's
it's
it's
an
honor
to
stop
by
there
once
in
a
while
and
say
hello
to
everybody,
so
I'm
just
so
proud
of
the
teachers
and
the
in
the
team
at
the
carter
school,
and
I
support
the
support.
The
proposal
in
front
of
us.
Thank
you.
Council
book.
C
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councillor
flynn
and
yes,
we're
we're
excited
to
be
joined
today
by
many
members
of
the
bps
school
community,
and
I
do
see
principal
o'connor
here
with
us.
So
welcome
to
him.
I
want
to
start
off
by
passing
it
to
nate
cooter,
the
cfo
of
the
boston
public
schools,
for
some
opening
remarks.
Nate
you
owe
the
floor.
F
Thank
you,
chairman
bach,
and
thank
you
city
council
for
having
us
here.
I
am
going
to
quickly
turn
things
over
to
our
expert
team
to
jump
into
the
details
of
the
presentation,
but
I
wanted
to
open
by
saying
how
excited
I
am
for
you
to
see
this
presentation
at
a
recent
school
building
committee
meeting.
I
got
a
sneak
peek
of
the
designs
of
the
new
carter
school
and
you
should
all
be
prepared
to
be
inspired
in
bill
bps
presentations
and
throughout
the
budget
process.
I've
been
talking
about.
F
The
district
superintendent
have
been
talking
about
how
we
need
to
reimagine,
what's
possible
for
our
students,
and
today's
presentation
is
exactly
what
that
looks
like
and
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
know
or
may
be
watching
the
carter
school
educates.
Students
with
severe
physical
and
health
disabilities,
currently
enrolling
25
students
with
complex
medical
needs,
this
school
educates
the
most
vulnerable
students
in
our
district.
It's
a
special
community-
and
I
am
here
and
I'm
honored
to
be
here-
to
support
it
before
jumping
into
the
agenda.
F
F
F
And
lastly,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
vps
project
team,
especially
sue
mccann,
who
have
done
a
lot
of
work
on
this
in
today's
presentation,
we're
going
to
provide
an
update
on
the
project
schedule
and
we'll
show
you
the
schematic
design.
That's
the
fun
part
showing
you
how
amazing
the
school
will
look
and
how
it
is
specifically
designed
to
serve
the
students
at
carter
school
and
we'll
talk
about
the
funding
appropriation
before
turning
it
back
over
to
you
for
questions,
and
so
with
that.
B
It's
we
really
feel
that
the
support
that
we
receive
from
our
district
and
from
our
city
and
from
our
city
council
is,
what's
leading
us
to
be
able
to
continue
to
improve
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
our
students
so
that
we
can
increase
the
expectations
and
the
outcomes
educationally
for
all
of
our
students.
So
thank
you
to
chair
bach
councillor
flynn
for
your
many
visits
to
the
carter.
B
Councilor
george
councilwoman
george,
as
well.
We've
had
the
ability,
the
privilege
of
hosting
many
of
you
over
the
last
few
years
and
so
you've
been
in
the
school
you've
seen
the
great
work
that
our
staff
and
our
students
are
doing
and
also
seeing
that
we
have
a
facility
that
isn't
fully
meeting
the
needs
of
our
students
and
is
creating
barriers
that
we
are
so
excited
to
be
working
with
our
design
team
from
perkins
and
will
and
hill
international
to
remove
for
our
students.
F
A
Thank
you
nate,
so
I
just
good
morning
councillors
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
It's
my
honor
and
privilege
to
introduce
you
our
project
team.
The
pfd
team
has
been
engaged
with
the
carter
school
for
the
past
seven
years
and
has
celebrated
one
boston
day
with
the
school
performing
their
garden
cleanup
to
commemorate
this
day.
Every
remembrance.
This
is
very
much
a
labor
of
love
for
us
for
the
principal
the
school
staff
and
the
students
joining
me
from
pfd
is
our
chief
of
staff.
A
Now
murphy
a.d
for
construction,
mary
silvera
senior
project
manager,
jim
mcgaffigan,
our
owners
project
manager
is
andy
felix
from
hill
international
and
our
design
team
from
perkins
as
well
perkins
and
will
is
brooks
trevis
and
derek
shin
is
operating
the
slides.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
our
partners
at
bps
me,
cooter,
mark
o'connor
and
sue
mccann
as
well
as
well
as
our
partners
at
obm,
chief
steroid,
jim
williamson,
jack
hanlon
and
their
team,
and
a
very
special
thanks
to
our
partners
at
msba.
B
So,
as
many
of
you
that
have
been
out
to
carter
have
seen,
we
are
currently
using
a
facility
that
was
not
designed
for
us,
it
is
a
50
year
old,
temporary
building
and
to
paint
the
picture
of
how
this
building
is
currently
not
meeting
our
students
needs.
I
want
to
remind
you
all
that
two
of
our
students
are
not
able
to
pass
by
each
other
in
a
hallway.
B
So
when
we
looked
at
this
project
from
the
start
and
outlining
creating
our
goals
and
vision,
we
really
wanted
this
to
be
a
student
experience
center
project
and
I'm
thankful
that
we
have
a
design
team
that
has
helped
us
do
so,
but
when
we
think
about
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
our
students,
everything
that
we
do
is
about
increasing
each
student's
ability
to
communicate.
So
this
became
the
guiding
principle
for
our
new
building.
B
That
was
really
driven
by
the
expertise
of
our
students,
our
families
and
our
staff,
and
was
really
centered
about
what
would
be
the
ideal
educational
experience
for
every
one
of
our
students
to
increase
their
ability
to
communicate.
And
I
think,
when
you
see
this
presentation
from
the
team
from
perkins
and
will
you
will
see
that
that
truly
drove
the
educational
programming
and
truly
drove
the
design
of
this
building?
That
it
is
very
in
tune
with
the
needs
of
our
students,
and
we
are
so
excited
for
all
the
support
that
we've
received
to
continue.
A
The
following
represents
a
flow
chart
based
on
the
msba
process
and
modules
for
each
phase.
Bps
submitted
their
statement
of
interest
for
the
carter
school
in
april
2017
as
part
of
the
msba
core
program
in
may
of
2019.
The
city
was
invited
to
perform
a
feasibility
study
and
establish
our
opm
and
design
team.
We've
had
multiple
submissions
along
this
process
with
the
next
submission
of
schematic
design
being
the
most
critical
and
will
establish
the
reimbursement
rate
for
the
project
based
on
msba
board
approval
in
august
2021.
A
We
will
move
forward
with
the
next
phase
of
design,
create
an
rfq
for
our
selection
of
cm
at
risk
and
perform
site
assessments
for
swing
space.
We
will
start
construction
of
swing
space
in
june
of
2022
for
september,
2022,
start
of
school
and
start
demolition
of
existing
school
structure,
structure
and
new
building.
We
are
projecting
approximately
two
years
for
a
construction
duration
and
we
will
be
complete
in
august
of
2024..
G
G
The
new
carter
school
will
be
located
on
the
existing
carter
school
site.
This
is
a
strategic
location
off
of
columbus
avenue
on
northampton
street,
conveniently
located
near
the
t
and
close
to
bus
routes.
The
access
for
the
carter
school
bus
parent
drop-off
will
be
maintained
as
a
one-way
vehicular
route
from
northampton
road.
G
G
The
carter
school
educational
program
was
specifically
developed
for
the
carter
students
and
community
to
support
the
needs,
their
cognitive
and
physical
needs,
and
the
vision
that
principal
o'connor
previously
outlined.
Many
of
the
programs
defined
for
the
new
carter
school
do
not
currently
exist
and
are
in
much
need
to
support
their
students.
G
The
first
floor
programs
are
welcoming
to
the
students,
staff
and
public
and
house
many
of
the
shared
spaces
for
both
the
students
and
community.
We
are
planning
for
the
greatest
flexibility
and
for
current
and
future
teaching
pedagogies
for
this
population.
We
hope
to
set
a
standard
for
this
program
typology.
G
The
administration
is
on
the
south
side
at
the
front
of
the
building
adjacent
to
the
controlled
and
secured
access
entry
after
exiting
the
main
vestibule
at
the
heart
of
the
building.
There's
a
wonderful
view
of
the
literacy
commons
and
collaborative
space
well
used
by
the
carter
community
for
many
activities,
including
the
end
of
the
day,
shout
outs
by
principal
o'connor
and
his
staff.
G
G
G
The
medical
suite
is
located
on
this
floor
in
close
proximity
proximity
to
many
of
the
carter
students
on
this
level
and
to
the
level
above,
it
is
important
to
note
there
is
an
exterior,
secure
space
on
this
floor.
Adjacent
to
adaptive
pe,
which
can
be
used
for
a
variety
of
teaching
and
learning
opportunities.
G
The
third
floor
accommodates
the
smallest
and
youngest
carter
students,
the
lower
schools,
general
classrooms,
have
direct
access
to
the
exterior
sensory
gardening
garden
for
teaching
learning
and
play
this
exterior.
Space
at
this
level
will
be
used
by
all
students
and
carter
staff.
The
rear
program
on
the
north
side
of
the
building,
like
the
other
floors,
houses
the
building
services,
as
well
as
the
staff
lunchroom
and
huddle
rooms,
putting
additional
adult
hands
near
the
younger
students.
G
G
G
G
G
The
research,
along
with
input
from
the
staff
and
formed
a
design
that
worked
to
improve
the
student
experience
by
creating
a
passive
solar
buffer
for
students
who
are
very
sensitive
to
glare.
The
goal
was
to
maintain
a
balance
between
usable,
daylight,
glare
controls,
interior
services
for
teaching
and
ensure
there
are
great
exterior
views
for
the
students.
G
G
This
is
an
aerial
view
of
the
southwest,
looking
sort
of
at
the
intersection
of
the
south
west
corridor
along
the
entry
sequence.
The
third
floor,
exterior
garden,
is
clear
in
this
image
illustrating
the
restorative
calm,
spaces,
teaching
areas
and
shade
structure.
In
addition,
you
can
see
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
the
ground
level,
sensory.
G
Garden
wanted
to
put
this
slide
in
here
to
highlight
some
of
the
sustainability
goals
and
resilient
features
for
the
new
card
carter
school.
There's,
a
improved
mechanical
system
using
merv,
13
and
14
infiltration
system
and
the
generator
and
hvac
units
are
located
on
the
rooftop
away
from
any
potential
flooding.
This
allows
the
building
to
operate
in
the
event
of
any
high
water
levels
in
surrounding
areas
we're
targeting
leed
silver
and
plants
will
be
selected
that
are,
drought,
resist
resistant
to
conserve
and
reduce
water.
G
We
have
a
high
performance
envelope,
design
rain,
screen
system
and
high
performance,
glazing
and
curtain
wall
systems.
We
have
a
projected
eui
of
30.6
we're
participating
in
mass,
save
incentive
programs
through
eversource
as
a
provider
of
the
electric
power,
and
the
building
is
mostly
fully
electric,
with
the
exception
of
the
generator
which
is
designed
to
use
diesel
fuel
for
the
event
of
the
need
for
standby
power.
D
C
Great,
thank
you
so
much
andy
and
thank
you
for
that
wonderful
presentation
to
the
whole
team.
It
is
really
exciting.
It
was
right
and
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
counselor
savvy
george,
who
joined
us
right,
as
the
presentation
was
getting
going
council
city
council
at
large
yeah.
So
a
couple
of
questions
from
me:
one
is
just
on
that
last
slide.
So
this.
So
I
understand
that
we're
we
could
get
a
reimbursement
of
64.31
percent
of
eligible
costs.
D
Preliminary
calculations
are
somewhere
in
the
mid
50
millions,
but
that
won't
be
determined
exactly
what
that
is.
Until
we
have
the
project,
scope
and
budget
meeting
with
msba,
which
is
slated
for
early
august,
we
don't
have
the
exact
date
we're
going
to
meet
with
them.
So
at
that
meeting,
we'll
know
exactly
what
the
value
is
and
the
formality
of
the
vote
will
make
it
official
on
the
25th
of
august.
C
D
D
C
F
C
D
So
we
certainly
have
studied
the
site.
There
are
some
known
as
one
example
perceived
hazardous
materials
below
the
site,
a
lot
of
those
they
won't
participate
in,
but
at
least
we've
identified
what
those
are
and
that
will
remain
on
the
city
side
of
the
I'll
call
it
the
financial
ledger,
so
the
form
which
we
can
certainly
share.
It's
part
of
the
submission
it
has
very
detailed
calculations
that
ultimately,
the
msba
has
formulated
and
will
really
determine
the
details
of
it.
D
We
can
take
some
guesses
on
our
part,
but
it's
really
determined
by
the
msba
at
prior
to
and
at
that
meeting
of,
what's
called
the
project
scope
of
budget
review
meeting
on
most
projects,
I
think
it
happened
with
decide
quincy.
That
meeting
already
occurred
before
the
appropriation
was
presented
to
the
council,
I
believe
into
last
year.
In
this
case,
it's
happening
before
the
meeting
with
the
msba.
C
Right
and
so
I'll,
just
just
for
for
nate
and
others.
You
know
I'm
aware
of
the
timeline
and
I
think
we're
all
very
excited
about
this
project
and
I'm
certainly
planning
to
move
it
to
a
first
vote
at
our
july
meeting.
But
I
will
want
the
follow-up
documentation
because
you
guys
are
having
the
project
scope
meeting
before
the
council's
second
vote
on
the
capital.
Docket
will
happen,
and
so
I
would
I
would
like,
because.
C
Little
out
of
order
for
the
council
to
know
what
it's
effectively
authorizing
in
terms
of
city
money,
that
would
be
that
would
be
good,
and
and
do
we
feel
reasonably
confident
on
that
environmental
hazard
side.
That
we've
got
a
pretty
good
sense
of
what
we
have
to
deal
with.
I
ask
just
because
that
is
a
place
where
project
budgets
balloon
sometimes.
D
D
I
apologize
I'll
have
to
do
some
research,
I'm
not
sure
what
was
there
off
top
my
head,
but
I
do
know
there
was
a
glass
type
of
facilities
a
long
time
ago.
We
can
pull
that
information
up
again
and
and
share
that
with
you
all,
but
there
are
two
uses
of
the
site
in
history.
It's
just
escaping
me.
The
exact
details.
C
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
book.
I
I
guess
I
have
just
two
two
quick
questions
join
the
design
and
during
the
design
phase
and
seeking
input
from
the
students
and
from
the
teachers
and
the
staff
just
curious
and
and
from
my
visits
I
also
noticed
that
there
were
a
lot
of
parents
that
would
also
go
to
the
school
as
well
or
caregivers,
or
guardians
just
curious.
What
type
of
environment
at
the
school
will
there
be
for?
E
B
So
as
as
you
know,
counselor
flynn,
no
families
are
at
the
center
of
our
work
with
our
students.
We
are
firm
believers
that,
in
our
support
of
our
families
in
the
world
of
disability
in
the
world
of
education,
that
that
support
is
a
key
driver
of
our
student
success
and
our
students
learning
one
thing.
That
is
a
non-negotiable
for
us.
Through
this
process
was
we
were
we
needed
to
have
a
warm
welcoming,
building
for
all
of
our
students
and
all
of
our
families
and
right
at
the
front
of
the
building.
B
G
I
would
just
say
that
it
was
an
incredible
process
around
visioning
and
we
were
all
virtual
and
it
was
really
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
and
we
had
eight
days
and
eight
two
hour
sessions
of
just
incredible
sort
of
participation
among
so
many
people.
I
think
at
one
point
we
had
over
60
people
on
the
call
we
did
exercises
we
got
homework.
G
There
is
a
website
that
we
can
put
it
in
the
chat
if
we
can
put
put
something
in
the
chat
where
you
can
find
all
of
the
exercises
documents
recordings
of
the
sessions
to
ensure
that
it
was
completely
participatory.
So
I'm
really
impressed
with
the
school,
and
it
was
probably
a
visioning
session
that
we
would
repeat
under
non-pandemic
circumstances,
because
it
was
so
inclusive.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
mark.
I
guess
my
final
question
would
be
more
of
an
engineering
related
question.
I
focus
a
lot
on
the
council
working
on
water
and
sewer
related
issues
did.
Did
you
guys
weigh
in
or
seek
the
input
of
the
water
and
saw
commission
in?
Are
there
any
potential
related
issues
during
construction
or
or
or
after
constru
or
post-construction,
but
just
wanted
to
see
what
any
feedback
water,
and
so
I
may
have
provided
on
on
this
on
this
design?.
E
Okay,
okay,
excellent,
thank
you,
kerry
and-
and
maybe
my
final
question
is.
I
know
where
the
parking
lot
is
mark,
where,
where
the,
where
the
written,
where
the
building
is
now,
what
type
of
drive
up
will
parents
or
or
guardians,
provide
or
or
will
bps
transportation
provide
as
they
drop
off
the
the
student
at
the
front
desk
or
at
the
front
door?
E
B
So
for
the
bus,
it's
really
been
incorporated
into
that
front
entrance
our
procedures
of
running
only
having
a
few
buses
at
a
time,
letting
students
off
that
will
all
continue
and
as
far
as
our
families
access,
we
will
continue
to
have
parking
that
we
would
have
always
reserved
for
families
if
they're
going
to
be
coming
to
the
school
and
the
other
main
piece
of
access
for
our
families
is
the
majority
of
our
families
are
accessing
our
school
through
public
transportation.
Currently,
so
we
that
part
of
figuring
out
you
know
early
stage.
B
Where
would
this
school
be
built?
We
were
pretty
adamant
that
we
needed
to
remain
on
site
and
one
of
the
major
reasons
being
number
one:
the
central
location
of
our
school
within
the
city,
since
we
are
a
city-wide
school,
not
wanting
families
to
be
commuting
completely
across
the
city
in
order
to
access
the
school,
but
also
where
we're
positioned.
Now
we're
right
in
between
ruggle
station
right
at
mass
ave
station
and
right
near
back
bay
station
along
with
the
number
one
bus
stop.
B
We
are
very
accessible
for
public
transportation,
for
both
our
families
and
for
our
students
to
be
able
to
access
the
community
that
way,
but
to
your
point,
you
know
it
wasn't
for
us,
it's
not
just
about
the
main
bus
main
drop-off
parking
lot
needing
to
be
fully
accessible
in
that
way
for
public
transit.
That
is
an
easy
way
for
all
of
our
families.
To
get
to
school
was
a
part
of
that
thinking
and
making
it
this
welcoming
environment
right
at
the
door.
E
C
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
flynn,
and
I
I
should
have
noted
before
we
were
also
joined
by
our
president,
pro
tem
counselor
matt
o'malley
from
district
six,
a
couple
more
questions
for
me.
I
was
wondering
and
principal
o'connor.
This
might
be
for
you.
I
was
excited
to
see
in
the
in
the
summary
that
the
idea
is
that
this
facility
would
also
allow
the
school
to
expand
from
those
25
to
60
students.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
sort
of
like
what
is
the
wait
list?
C
B
B
The
students
needs
to
become
the
most
fluent
communicators
through
augmented
communication
that
each
student
can
be
so
that
was
part
of
the
proposal,
and
when
we
did
explored
enrollment
with
the
bought
the
special
education
office
and
with
the
mass
school
building
authority,
it
was
looking
at
a
number
of
things
where
students
potentially
coming
back
in
district,
which
has
been
a
trend
over
the
last
few
years
with
us.
We
don't
have
a
wait
list,
and
that
is
because
we
are
as
a
school.
B
We
are
an
iep
service
delivery
so
to
have
a
student
enrolled
in
our
school.
It
is
a
referral
from
an
iep
team,
including
the
parent
and
the
current
school
placement
team,
and
there
is
no
comparable
placement
for
our
age
group
within
the
city.
So
if
a
student
is
referred
to
carter
and
there
is
no
space
in
carter-
that
student
then
is
referred
for
an
out
of
district
placement.
B
So
that's
where
we're
currently
at
now,
and
I
think
that
the
district
might
be
able
to
provide
more
numbers
around
that.
But
our
goal
in
this
process
would
not
necessarily
be
to
try
to
bring
every
student
back
into
the
district,
but
because
we're
a
firm
believer
that
if
a
student
is
in
an
educational
placement
that
is
working
really
well
for
them
and
their
family,
that's
not
something
we're
looking
to
interrupt,
but
we
do
believe
that
our
ability
to
start
at
age
three
and
provide
a
21st
century
school
facility
and
educational
program.
B
That's
a
national
model,
will
potentially
reduce
out
of
district
placements
going
forward.
But
the
majority
of
that
enrollment
would
be
an
increase
from
the
younger
grades
and
then
also
increased
capacity.
In
the
older
grades,
but
you
you
hit
on
you,
know
the
kind
of
feeder
patterns
that
we're
projecting
out.
F
Some
of
the
students
are
served
in
other
programs
in
bps,
where
we
would
start
to
integrate
them
into
the
carter
school
community,
but
I
would
have
to
work
with
special
education
to
identify
kids
with
similar
sort
of
ieps
that
that
are
out
of
district
right
now
and
and
give
you
that
estimate,
I
don't
know,
mark
or
sue.
If
you
have
more
specifics.
C
F
Schools
is
sort
of
that
least
restrictive
environment,
and
I
think
for
these
students
this
becomes
the
least
restrictive
environment,
because
it
is
an
environment
that
is
designed
for
them
to
find
success
and
interact
and
learn
in
new
and
different
ways.
But
then
there
is
also
still
the
need
for
us,
as
a
district
to
be
looking
for
students
to
be
with
their
gen,
ed
peers.
F
So
I
do
assure
you
we
have
done
a
lot
of
due
diligence
and
I
think
you
know
we
you
know
are
hoping
that
these
are
all
of
our
school
facilities
that
are
starting
to
build
them,
will
be
more
inclusive
environments
and
we'll
leverage
some
of
the
design
elements
we've
learned
from
the
carter
school.
You
know,
as
as
mark
mentioned,
the
two
students
passing
in
the
hallway.
F
You
know
that's
a
that's
a
challenge
that
we
would.
We
would
see
in
any
school,
and
so
we
really
this.
This
is
really
opening
my
eyes
and
and
giving
us
a
clear
demonstration
of
what
moving
away
from
ada
compliance
to
a
full
definition
of
full
inclusion.
It's
exciting,
I'm
sorry!
I
stepped
a
little
bit
onto
a
bit
of
a
soap
box
there,
because
this
project
does
get
me
so
excited.
But
I
appreciate
the
question.
C
No,
no
that's
great
to
hear
no
and
I
agree-
and
I
think
yeah
both
thinking
about
about
the
hallway
space
and
then
just
all
of
this
accessible
outdoor
space.
It's
really
exciting
to
see
and
I'm
glad
to
see
also
the
building
using
merv
1314
filters.
That
would
have
been
a
question.
Otherwise,
certainly
I
know
we're
all
all
concerned
about
ultra
fine
particles
and
then
with
kovid
sort
of
it's
really
come
to
the
fore.
C
I'm
just
okay,
and
then
I
I
was
wondering
kerry.
This
might
be
a
question
for
you,
but
if
you
could
just
walk
through
a
little
bit
more
about
the
149a
construction
manager
at
risk
model
and
how
that
works,
and
whether
we've
done
that
before
and
sort
of
how
how
the
council
should
understand
that,
from
a
procurement
perspective,.
A
Sure,
thank
you,
council
for
the
question.
So
149
eight
is
one
chapter:
149
a
is
seen
at
risk
and
essentially
that's
what
our
department
utilizes
that
method
of
procurement
for
larger
projects
msba
requires
it
in
terms
of
you
know,
which
is
you
know
if
we
were
putting
out,
we
get
our
opm
and
designer
are
given
to
us
through
the
the
msba
selection
process.
A
So
typically
we
would
send
out
an
rfq
for
that
similar
to
how
we
will
be
be
preparing
that
for
request
for
qualifications
for
different
contractors,
and
then
you
know
we
will
get
those
at
the
our
rfq
advertised.
Then
we
will
go
from
there.
We
will
do
a
short
list
and
then
we
will
do
interviews
and
then
it's
a
qualification
based
type
of
procurement.
So
we
will
procure
based
on
that
award
based
on
that-
and
you
know
we'll
be
developing
that
rfq
over
the
next
few
months
so
that
we
can
get
that
out.
C
C
How
much
is
somebody
gonna
do
this
for
right
and
they'll,
give
us
a
quote
and
then
we're
hiring
the
lowest
person
right,
because
we're
trying
to
save
your
tax
dollars
and
that's
kind
of
a
standard
procurement
for
something
that's
very
cut
and
dry
like
that.
But
of
course
like
when
you
do
a
roadway
project
like
that,
it's
pretty
cut
and
dry
you're,
not
saying
like.
C
Oh
actually,
we
have
a
change
order
and
we'd
like
you
to
build
a
building
in
the
middle
of
it
right
like
it's
very
consistent,
but
then
with
something
like
the
school
like,
depending
on
those
environmental
conditions.
Other
things
that
come
up
like
you
might.
You
might
need
adjustments
along
the
way
and
it's
big
and
complicated
right.
So
am
I
right
in
understanding.
A
That's
right,
yes,
that
we
have.
We
have
to
enter
into.
We
get
them
on
board
based
on
our
estimate
and
then
we
we
have
to
enter
into,
and
that
won't
happen,
probably
till
the
spring
of
next
year,
a
guaranteed
price
from
the
gc
once
they're
selected.
So
but
we
still
do
filed
sub-bid
in
terms
of
they'll
they'll
they'll
put
together
those
packages
with
the
design
team,
and
we
still
do
a
it's
a
qualification
based,
so
they
have
to
the
filed.
A
Sub
bids
have
to
qualify,
and
then
we
will
select
based
on
those
qualifications
and
that
will
be
done
through
the
gc.
The
benefit
of
having
a
chapter
149a
is
that
we
bring
the
contractor
on
early.
So
to
your
point
of
the
hazmat,
you
know:
we'd
do
some
more
exploratory
on
that
we'd
have
a
contractor
on
board
they're
they're,
really
a
partner.
You
know
in
this
process,
so
you
know
yeah.
We
bring
them
on
early.
A
They
can
help
us
out
with
really
taking
deep
dives
into
the
estimate
and
making
sure
our
numbers
are
good,
making
sure
our
budget's
good
looking
at
drawings.
You
know
for
scope
prior
to
going
out
to
filed
sub
bid
for
the
project,
so
yeah
it's
very
much.
The
partnership,
and
I
know
this
project
will
will
garner
a
ton
of
interest.
You
know
we're
already
getting
calls
on
it.
So
we're
excited.
We
can't
wait
to
bring
someone
on
board
and
get
the
rfq
prepared
and
out
for
advertisement.
C
And,
and
do
you
guys
oh
shoot?
I
just
forgot
my
question.
Well,
I
guess,
can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
how
you're
thinking
about
I
know
the
last
time
I
think
we
had
pfd.
We
were
talking
about
the
sort
of
equitable
procurement
strategy
for
the
city,
and
we've
talked
repeatedly
about
challenges
on
that
front.
With
these
big
construction
projects,
can
you
speak
at
all
on
that.
A
Sure
sure,
actually,
I'm
glad
you
asked
that
because
we
are
currently
working
with
our
partners
at
the
cfo's
office,
equity
procurement,
our
procurement
office,
we
meet
bi-weekly
and
we're
looking
at
doing
a
pilot
program
so
that
we
can.
You
know
whether
that's
going
to
be
again
it's
in
its
preliminary
stages,
but
we're
looking
at
how
we
can
you
know
be
increase
our
you
know
for
women,
minority
and
veteran-owned
businesses,
so
that
we
can.
A
A
C
A
It
could
it
could
we're
gonna
right
now
we're
working
on
we're
thinking
of
doing
our
first
pilot
with
the
court
street
renovation
project,
we're
meeting
tomorrow,
actually
as
the
team
to
to
kind
of
hash
that
out
with
with
legal
guidance,
because
everything
we're
d
we
do
is
based
on
the
statute,
you
know,
and
so
we'll
be
working
with
both.
You
know
our
partners
across
the
city
really
to
make
to
see.
If
we
can,
you
know,
generate
something
that
will
work,
and
that
is
fair.
A
So
you
know
when
we
did
meet
this,
this
team
that
I'm
referencing
met
with
gcam
and
some
partners
with
the
state
we're
all
taking
a
look
at
this,
and
you
know
as
myself
personally
as
a
woman
in
construction
as
a
veteran
and
of
a
mother
of
a
son,
that's
currently
deployed.
You
know
this
is
very
important
to
me
this
program.
So
I
think
it
is
in
its
very
preliminary
stages,
but
we
do
we're
hoping
to
see
some
impact
by
the
fall.
C
A
C
And
have
you
carry
sorry
is
a
bit
of
a
mix
of
questions,
but
just
because,
obviously
we
have
had
so
many
really
tragic
construction
safety
incidents
in
the
city
in
the
last
year.
Have
you
guys
worked
on?
I
know,
there's
some
questions
have
arisen
about
whether
whether
we're
adequately
tagging
bad
actors
on
those
fronts
so
that
when
we're
doing
these
qualifications,
we're
ruling
them
out.
Do
you
have
any
updates
on
that.
A
So
we
do
it's
important
to
us
that
we,
you
know,
we
have
manage
and
maintain
safe
job
sites.
You
know,
there's
certain
requirements
in
terms
of
osha
that
are
required
for
training,
that
you're
only
allowed
to
be
on
the
job
site.
If
you
have
a
certain
amount
of
training,
but
there's
also,
we
require
a
safety
plan
from
our
contractors
on
us
on
our
sites
and
most,
if
not
all
the
did
they
take
this
this.
You
know
this
safety
of
their
their
people
and
our
people
very
seriously.
A
But
they're
again
to
you
to
your
point,
there
are
some
bad
actors
or
there's
some
complacency
on
you
know
with
with
some
people,
so
we
try.
You
know
we
we,
our
job
sites,
also
require
a
safety
officer,
not
a
full-time,
but
they
do
require
someone
that
is
designated
as
that
and
if
we,
you
know
we
at
and
for
our
department,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
empower
our
our
people
that
if
they
see
an
unsafe
condition
they're
to
address
it
immediately.
A
C
Yeah,
no,
I
just
think
it's
so
important
to
the
council
and
again
my
colleague,
counselor
flynn,
is
here
with
us,
has
been
a
real
leader
on
this.
You
know
that
when
we're
talking
these
big
projects
that
we,
but
we
not-
I
mean
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
specifically
about
folks
self-reporting,
on
the
osha
violations
right
and
on
us
missing
that
right.
So
I
think
we're
all
pretty
concerned
about
that.
C
So
yeah
just
again,
I
think
really
appreciate
all
your
due
diligence
on
that
front
with
these
big
school
projects,
because
they're
such
an
important
part
of
our
expenditures
each
year
and
what
about
on
construction
materials?
How
is
the
cost
increases?
How
are
those
affecting
us
like?
Are
we
does
this
estimate
replace
like
reflect
where
lumber's
at
right
now
and
such
or
what's
the
latest
on
that.
A
We'll
do
multiple
estimates
throughout
the
phase
so
that
we
have
an
estimate
for
and
again
we've
we've
allocated
a
lot
of
allowances.
So
if
anything
we
have
to
design
to
our
current
budget
and
if
you
know
we
need
to
we,
you
know
if
we
have.
If
we
are
over
budget
by
the
next
estimate,
which
is
the
60
drawings,
then
we
will
have
to
start
value
engineering,
some
of
our
our
some
of
our
design
down.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
want
to
get
there.
A
I
think
we
have
a
good
estimate
based
on
the
current
design,
but
we
would
you
know
my
thing
is
design
to
your
budget,
and
so,
if,
if
we're,
if,
unless
there's
something
that
you
know,
we
we
uncover,
but
you
know
I
think
right
now
we
have
a
really
great
team
and
you
know
that's
that's
their
marching
orders
and
basically
that's
what
we're
submission.
That's
why
this
submission
is
critical
to
for
the
msba,
because
this
this
will
set
the
the
rate
of
return
based
on
what
our
current
budget
is.
G
It
does
reflect
the
current
market
conditions,
so
all
those
material
escalations
right
now
are
reflected
in
our
estimate.
So
we
hope
that
things
might
stabilize
and
maybe
the
carter
school
will
reap
the
benefits
if
they
don't,
we
are
have
incorporated
those
charges
in
our
in
this
sda
schematic
design,
estimate.
A
B
C
F
I
can
take
that
question.
We
are
currently
in
the
process
of
working
with
the
firm
to
finalize
our
swing
space
for
evaluating
a
number
of
different
sites.
As
you
can
imagine,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
enough
space
to
run
the
program
and
then
also
that
the
the
bps
facility
will
be
adequately
accessible
for
all
the
students,
and
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
finalizing
that
the
next
few
weeks
and
do
not
anticipate
that
causing
any
challenges
for
the
project
schedule,
but
we're
not
yet
quite
ready
to
sort
of
state.
F
We'll
probably
share
it
with
the
carter
school
community
first
and
mark
o'connor
is
very
involved
in
that
project.
I
should
probably
defer
to
carrie
in
terms
of
the
actual
timeline,
because
I
don't
want
to
commit
for
the
for
the
assessment
they're
doing
the
assessments
over
the
next
week
and
a
half
two
weeks,
and
we
should
have
a
decision
here
shortly.
F
A
A
So
we
want
to
make
sure,
obviously,
like
our
infrastructure
is
there,
for
you
know
for
the
program,
but
what
we
can
achieve
over
that
small
window
of
time
and
we
will
prepare
that
will
be
something
that
will
be
part
of
the
project
and
it'll
be
the
first
probably
pre-construction
services
from
our
a
general
contractor,
or
I
see
him
at
risk.
So
again,
they'll
they'll
help
develop
that
that
work
and
that
that
estimate
piece
is
included
in
this
overall
budget.
C
A
Yes,
we,
yes,
we
actually
gave
you
know
and
again
and
it's
just
and
it's
it's
a
assumption,
but
I
think
we
it's
it's.
We
put
it
in
a
good
allowance
so
that
we
can,
I
don't
think,
we'll
be
spending
what
we've
allocated
or
you
know
for
that
piece.
But
we
wanted
to
make
sure
because
we
weren't
sure
at
the
time
where
were
we
gonna
put
the
children
for
the
swing
space,
but
I
think
we
have
again.
If
we
don't,
we
don't
need
it,
we
don't
use
it.
A
C
Got
it
and
and
mark,
would
you
mind
sorry,
I'm
nearly
done
just
mark.
Would
you
mind
just
clarifying
for
me
in
terms
of
like
I
know
I
mean
it's
obvious,
I
think,
to
anybody
who
saw
the
presentation
that
there
are
many
things
in
this
new
proposed
building
that
are
not
in
the
current
building,
but
if
you
could
just
walk
through
a
little
bit
one
more
time
like
you
know
what
are
the
grades
we
serve
now?
B
Yep
and
and
I'll
preface
this
with
some
things
we
have
in
name
only
in
our
current
building,
that
I
wouldn't
classify
such
as
a
gym.
So
currently
we
serve
grades
7
through
12,
so
with
that
being
of
ages,
12
or
13
through
age
22.,
so
students
stay
at
carter
generally
until
their
22nd
birthday,
which
is
when
students
then
transition
to
adult
services
and
adult
placements.
B
So
right
now
we
have
five
classrooms
with
five
students
in
each
classroom
and
we
expect
to.
We
will
be
transitioning
to
serve
students
at
starting
at
age
three,
so
we
will
have
students
that
will
transition
from
early
intervention
and,
along
with
other
different
referral
points
along
the
way.
Because
again
we
want
to
empower
families
to
make
their
decision
about
their
child's
school
placement
and
what
the
what
they
view
as
the
least
restrictive
environment
for
their
child.
B
What
we
currently
have
outside
of
classroom
spaces
in
our
building
is
a
closet
with
a
heating
station
that
acts
as
our
lunch
room,
but
students
cannot
enter
that
room,
so
lunches
are
done
in
the
classroom.
At
this
point
we
have
a
what's
called
a
gym.
That
is
this
awkward
l-shaped
carpeted
room,
where
it's
not
big
enough
for
five
students
in
a
class
to
play
an
active
adaptive,
physical
education
game.
B
So
we
will
be
having
now
more
of
a
half
court
size
gymnasium,
that
our
students
will
be
able
now
to
truly
access
adapted
physical
education
through
the
winter
months.
When
outdoors
isn't
an
option
we
also
in
the
current
building.
We
have
a
multi-purpose
small
sensory
room.
That
is
where
the
ot
and
the
pt
can.
You
know
fight
for
square
footage
to
provide
pull
out
services
for
their
for
students,
and
we
have
a
small
office
space
that
operates
as
our
shared
speech
and
language,
pathologist
and
teacher
of
the
visually
impaired
space.
B
B
We
are
going
to
have
a
therapeutic
pool
where
we
currently,
obviously
we
didn't
do
it
this
year
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
we
currently
travel
one
day
a
week
where
about
six
to
ten
students
at
a
time
are
able
to
access
a
pool
at
the
papas
rehabilitation
school
in
canton
for
one
hour
a
week,
most
students
are
able
to
then
go,
maybe
once
a
month
to
that,
we
will
have
that
on
site
in
our
current
building.
We
also
will
have
a
pro
music
therapy
and
art
therapy
space.
B
Where
currently
those
services
are,
you
know,
delivered
on
a
cart
that
goes
around
into
the
classroom
and
within
those
spaces
the
opportunity
for
one-to-one
music
therapy
spaces
and
different
art
spaces.
Another
aspect
that
we're
really
excited
for
I
mentioned
the
cafeteria
before
this,
I
think,
shows
a
good
idea
of
how
the
visioning
of
student-centered
experience
influenced
all
of
our
decisions,
where
about
60
percent
of
our
students
are
not
accessing
the
bps
lunch
services
and
are
receiving
their
food
through
g-tube
feeds.
B
B
The
ability
to
have
that
space,
where
people
can
walk
into
our
building
and
see
our
students
as
learners
and
our
students
can
see
the
learning
happening
around
them
when
they're
three
four
five
seeing
their
older
peers
accessing
assistive
technology
in
those
spaces,
literacy
instruction,
which
is
such
a
evidence-based
practice
for
communication
development
and
then
finally,
the
one
space
that
we
do
have
in
our
current
building.
That
works
really
really
well,
is
our
outdoor
sensory
garden.
B
C
Thank
you
thanks
for
that
summary.
I
think
it's
clear
how
much
this
is
going
to
add
for
our
students,
education,
I'm
in
the
city
of
boston.
It's
really
exciting
one
thing
that
I'd
love
to
see
somewhere
in
the
building,
and
I
don't
think
this
is
a
cost
item.
But
you
know
I've
been
talking
a
lot
with
folks
about
you
know:
honoring,
the
city's,
all
the
city's
history,
including
its
black
history
and
obviously
the
building
right
sergeant.
B
Yeah
we'd
love
to-
and
you
know
a
few
years
ago
again
right
before
the
pandemic,
we
had
an
amazing
just
drop-in
visit
from
some
of
our
friends
at
the
william
e
carter
legion
post
out
in
matapan,
so
they
they
were
excited
about
sharing
the
history
with
us
and
looking
for
different
artifacts,
as
they
were
up
for
one
of
their
anniversaries
of
their
process.
So
they
would
be
a
great
group
to
partner
with,
for
that.
G
G
You
mentioned
that,
and
I
should
have
put
it
in
the
presentation,
but
we
do
know
that
there
was
an
address
of
martin
luther
king,
that's
important
to
us
and
the
community,
as
well
as
other
aspects
of
the
history,
so
we'll
find
a
way
to
tell
that
story
and
that
narrative
in
the
building,
as
we
move
forward
with
possibly
the
branding
and
some
sort
of
wonderful
attributes.
To
that's
to
that.
That
story
that
we
can
tell.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
and
we
will
keep
you
informed
as
to
what
we
do.
C
Yeah,
no,
I
think
that
would
be
great
and
I
think,
when
you're
rebuilding
a
building,
it's
the
chance
to
incorporate
some
things
in
a
more
permanent
way
that
helps
helps
young
people
know
that
history
counselor
flynn.
I
think
that's,
finally,
all
my
questions.
I
know
you
said
you
were
done,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
one
more
chance
if
you
wanted
to
say
anything.
E
C
Yes,
no
and
I'll
add
my
thanks
to
councillor
flynn's
and
I
really
think
this
is
a
very
exciting
project
and
we're
excited
that
the
msba
you
know
selected
it
in
the
first
place
and
that
we
are
eligible
for
that
reimbursement.
It's
exciting,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
like
I'll,
certainly
be
recommending
this
for
a
first
vote
to
the
city
council
at
our
meeting
next
week.
It
will
then
because
the
capital
docket
need
a
second
vote
in
august,
so
I
will
follow
up
me
with
you
and
your
team.
C
I
think
we
we
definitely
would
like
to
have
some
of
that.
You
know
further
info
about
what's
in
reimbursable
and
versatile,
I
just
you
know
with
an
appropriation
order
like
to
be
able
to
tell
the
council
what
we
actually
anticipate
the
sort
of
bonded
funds
to
be
and
how
much
reimbursement
we
think
we're
going
to
get,
and
there
were
a
few
other
questions
just
in
terms
of
the
previous
use
of
the
site
and
stuff
of
love
follow
up
on.
But
but
I
couldn't
be
more
excited
about
this
project.
So
thank
you.
A
No,
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
time.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
we're
very
excited
about
this
project,
where
we
can't
wait
to
get
going
on
it,
get
shovels
in
the
ground,
but
we're
very,
very
excited
about
this
and
working
with
we
have
an
excellent
team
and
we're
in
the
school
working
with
the
school.
So
you
know,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Counselors.