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Dockets #0524-0531, 0538, 0539 - Fiscal Year 2022 Budget: Environment Department, including the Conservation Commission and Landmarks including Environment Department Revolving Funds
Held on May 10, 2021
B
Morning,
counselor,
so
brad
swing
should
also
be
a
panelist.
David
musselman
was
not
able
to
make
it
so
and
brad
is
representing
the
energy
team.
If
he's
not
on
your
list,
oh
there
he
is.
I
see
him
yeah.
A
E
A
But
reverend
whiteham
and
you
have
everyone
up
from
your
team
that
you
need
excuse
me:
do
you
have
everyone
from
your
team
in
the
zoom
that
you
need.
H
A
Good
morning,
mr
president,
have
a
good
first
mother's
day
with
catherine.
I
A
Okay
and
candace,
we're
all
set
on
our
end,
see
we're
live.
A
I'm
calling
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
to
order
for
the
record.
My
name
is
kenzie
bach,
I'm
the
district,
8
city,
councilor
and
also
the
chair
of
the
council's
ways
and
means
committee.
This
hearing
is
being
recorded,
it's
being
live
streamed
at
boston.gov
city
council
dash
tv
and
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel,
8,
rcn,
channel
82
and
fios
channel
964..
A
This
hearing
is
part
of
the
council's
budget
review
process,
which
encompasses
about
35
working
sessions
and
hearings
focused
on
every
aspect
of
the
city
of
boston's
fy
22
budget,
and
we
strongly
encourage
residents
to
take
a
moment
to
engage
in
this
process
by
sharing
public
testimony.
So
I
know
we've
got
some
folks
signed
up
already.
A
If
you're
interested
in
signing
up
for
public
testimony,
you
can
go
to
boston.gov
budget-testify
to
find
out
how
or
you
can
see
all
of
the
hearings
and
figure
out
which
one
you
might
want
to
testify
at
at
boston.gov
council
dash
budget.
If
you
need
help
finding
any
of
those
things
or
you
want
to
send
us
some
written
testimony,
you
can
go
to
ccc.wm
boston.gov
boston.gov,
that's
the
email
address
reach
us
ccc.wm
boston.gov,
and
we
also
on
the
website.
You
can
also
there's
an
opportunity
to
upload
a
video.
We
do
ask
you
that.
A
Hours
in
advance
of
hearings,
but
then
we
can
actually
append
them
to
the
end
of
a
hearing
like
this
one
and
we'll
also
be
having
two
remaining
hearings
that
are
totally
dedicated
to
public
testimony.
So
it's
6
p.m.
On
may,
25th
we'll
have
one
focused
on
the
bps
budget
and
we'll
start
straight
with
public
testimony
right
away.
That's
six
on
may
25th
and
then
on
june
3rd.
We'll
have
another
one
at
six
about
all
aspects
of
the
budget,
so
sort
of
anything
that
you've
heard
or
feel
like
hasn't
been
addressed.
A
And
then
you
can
informally
tweet
us
your
questions
or
comments
using
the
hashtag
bossbudgetbos
budget
as
well
and
I'll
give
one
more
time
the
website
for
the
whole
council
budget
review
process.
It's
boston.gov
council
dash
budget,
so
we
do
hope,
you'll
join
us
and
get
involved.
The
budget
gets
better
through
public
input
every
year
or
so
today's
working
today's
hearing
is
on
docket
zero.
A
Five,
two
four
to
zero:
five:
two:
six
orders
for
the
fy22
operating
budget,
including
annual
appropriations
for
departmental
operations
for
the
school
department
and
for
other
post-employment
benefits,
docket
zero:
five:
three:
seven:
zero.
Five:
two
eight
orders
for
capital
fund
transfer
appropriations,
docket
zero,
five,
two
nine
to
zero;
five;
three
one
orders
for
the
capital
budget,
including
loan
orders
and
lease
purchase
agreements
and
then
dock
at
zero.
A
Five,
three:
eight
to
zero;
five:
three:
nine
orders
authorizing
limits
for
environment
department,
revolving
funds
for
fy
22.,
so
today
we'll
be
focusing
on
the
environment
department
and
under
the
auspices
of
the
environment
department,
also
the
conservation,
commission
and
the
landmarks
commission,
both
of
which
do
really
important
work
on
conservation
and
our
historical
preservation
work
and
then
we'll
also
be
talking
to
environment,
about
their
revolving
funds
for
distributed
energy
resources
and
the
conservation
conservation
commission.
A
A
I
know
the
whole
council
I'm
very
excited
to
hear
from
her
and
on
her
team
carl
spector,
the
commissioner
for
the
environment,
department,
allison
brzezias,
the
director
of
climate
and
environmental
planning
and
brad
swing,
our
director
of
energy
policy
and
programs,
I'm
so
thrilled
to
have
the
team
here
with
us,
and
I'm
joined
by
my
colleagues,
counselor
anissa
sabi,
george
at-large
counselor,
ed
flynn
from
district
two
councillor,
liz
braden
from
district
nine
councillor,
julia
mejia
at
large
and
councillor
matt,
o'malley,
district,
six
and
council
president
pro
tempore.
A
A
I'm
sorry,
yes,
critical,
critical,
roseanne
foley,
who
directs
our
executive
director
of
our
landmarks
commission
is
here
with
us,
and
I
think
I
also
missed
counselor
andrea
campbell,
who
is
the
district
4
counselor,
so
also
here
with
us.
So
I
think
that's
everybody,
and
so
without
further
ado,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
chief
white
hammond
to
kick
us
off.
F
Thank
you
counselor.
I
first
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
before
you
today.
I
have
been
before
you
a
few
times
in
the
past,
but
never
in
this
role.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
many
of
you
as
an
advocate
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
more
in
this
new
role.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
thoughtful
questions,
even
though
I
am
a
pastor,
and
I
could
certainly
go
on
for
for
a
while.
F
I'm
gonna
keep
my
remarks
short
and
focus
on
some
big
picture
questions,
and
I
know
there
were
a
number
of
questions
about
the
specifics
of
different
pieces
of
our
work
and
I
will
actually
defer
and
allow
staff
to
sort
of
name
and
speak
to
some
of
those
with
greater
specificity.
F
But
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
I,
this
is
the
beginning
of
my
third
week
and
the
first
two
weeks
I
spent
listening
to
staff.
We
had
an
anonymous
survey
that
gave
folks
an
opportunity
to
share
some
feedback,
and
I
am
now
the
beginning
of
going
into
deeper
conversations
with
other
cabinets
and
departments,
and
I
have
a
meetings
with
a
number
of
you
over
the
coming
weeks.
As
I
try
to
understand
how
folks,
outside
of
our
department,
see
us
and
opportunities
for
deeper
collaboration.
F
Again,
as
I
mentioned,
much
of
my
response
is
based
on
the
feedback
I
received
from
our
anonymous
surveys,
which
was
sent
to
all
the
environment
staff
and
parks,
leadership,
conversations
with
commissioners
and
departments,
heads
and
a
response
to
your
questions,
which
was
submitted
by
the
department
heads
where
they
will
go
into
greater
depth
on
specific
programs
and
work.
I
do
want
to
note
that
you
know
our
our
goal
over
this
next
year
is
to
really
go
deeper
into
a
people,
people-centered
focus
as
a
cabinet.
F
We
have
done
really
great
projects
and
initiatives.
You
know
of
them.
We
lead
the
country
and
many
areas
and
have
been
groundbreaking
on
on
many
fronts,
and
now
our
work
is
is
to
go
deeper
in
our
engagement
with
the
public
and
particularly
to
center,
our
most
vulnerable
residents,
engaging
in
them
in
the
work
of
reimagining
who
boston
can
be
both
as
a
community
of
people
and
a
environmental
space
that
everybody
needs
to
have
access
to
equally
and
justly
so.
I
know
we
have
done
really
good
progress.
F
I
heard
from
multiple
staff
about
the
work.
That's
been
done
to
increase
our
use
of
community
advisory
groups
panels
boards
to
bring
folks
into
the
work,
the
the
strides
that
have
made
made
in
our
departments
to
make
our
meetings
more
accessible,
having
more
language
support.
F
So
we've
already
gotten
started
and
our
work
over
this
next
year
is
to
go
deeper
in
that
work,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
entire
city
of
boston
is
engaged
in
this.
Our
most
vulnerable
residents,
not
just
in
terms
of
their
vulnerability
to
sea
level
rise,
but
many
of
our
residents
are
deeply
vulnerable
to
heat
and
other
climate
impacts,
and
they
should
be
at
the
table
engaged.
F
In
that
conversation,
we
also
are
excited
to
be
deepening
our
inter-cabinet
collaboration
again,
another
place
where
we
have
worked
with
every
department
under
the
sun
we
have
to.
We
are
small,
and
the
only
way
for
us
to
be
mighty
is
if
we
also
work
with
other
folks
who
have
other
important
resources.
F
But
we
want
to
look
at
how
we
systematize
those
relationships
a
little
bit
more
and
go
deeper
in
our
conversations,
I
just
had
a
great
conversation
with
chief
martinez
this
morning
about
how
we
can
do
more
to
connect
or
work
with
hhs
and
the
great
work
that
they're
doing
there.
F
So
I
do
want
to
name
a
couple
of
highlights
that
were
brought
up
in
the
questions
that
I
think
are
worth
noting.
There
were
a
couple
of
questions
about
issues
of
staffing,
and
I
want
to
note
that
wages
clearly
have
been
an
issue
for
the
environment
department
in
the
past.
I
want
to
celebrate
the
work
particularly
of
commissioner
specter,
who
led
a
process
to
get
hr
to
review
all
of
the
salaries
and
make
adjustments,
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
very
very
important.
We've
had
a
lot
of
staff
turnover.
F
F
So
we
believe
that
this
hr
review
and
the
adjustments
of
folk
salary
classes
will
make
a
difference
in
being
able
to
retain
qualified
staff.
We
also
I
do
want
to
note
was
it
was
raised
by
some
of
quite
a
few
of
our
staff?
Is
the
delay
of
processing
of
candidates?
F
Sometimes
we
have
great
candidates
and
we
lose
them,
because
it
can
take
us
a
while
between
interview
to
offer,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
sitting
down
with
hr
to
see
how
we
can
streamline
that
process
just
a
bit
so
that
we
get
the
best
and
strongest
staff,
and
there
have
been
some
departures
during
the
pandemic
in
the
short
term.
That
will
be
somewhat
of
a
challenge
for
us
in
terms
of
capacity,
but
in
the
long
term.
I
also
think
it
creates
an
opportunity
to
strengthen
the
diversity
of
the
department.
F
We
are
aware
that
we
could
do
more
to
reflect
the
demographics
of
the
city
of
boston
and
something
that
is
something
we
take
very
seriously
and
hope
that
again,
the
stronger
salaries
and
the
openings,
though
they
are
a
bit
unfortunate,
do
give
us
an
opportunity
to
make
some
big
strides
in
the
department.
F
A
number
of
you
raised
questions
about
landmarks
and
the
need
for
more
resources,
and
we
are
both
recognizing
that
we
are
really
excited
to
have
another
staff
position
proposed
in
the
upcoming
budget.
We
believe
that
that
will
make
a
major
difference,
and
we
want
to
acknowledge
that
there
are
some
of
the
departments
that
have
grant
funded
positions.
F
I've
had
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
conversation
with
archaeology
about
how
to
sustain
staff
there
that
have
been
great
grant
funded,
and
I
was
excited
to
have
a
conversation
with
roseanne
foley
about
what
it
would
take
to
reduce
the
backlog
of
study
reports
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Multiple
of
you
named
the
backlog
that
we
have,
and
so,
while
we
are
not
ready
to
present
something
in
this
conversation,
we'd
love
to
have
a
follow-up
conversation
as
she,
and
I
look
at
what
that
will
take.
F
Our
understanding
is
that
that
will
probably
be
a
combination
of
some
redirection
of
staff
to
focus
on
really
moving
that,
but
also
require
some
fundraising
outside
funds,
potentially
to
help
us
bring
in
consultants
that
will
help
us
move
through
that
backlog.
F
Having
that
many
applications
hanging
over
your
head
is,
like
you
know,
coming
home
to
a
cluttered
house,
it
gets
to
the
point
where
it
feels
hard
to
be
productive
as
long
as
that's
hanging
over
you
and
we
want
to
make
sure
the
goal
is
to
try
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
reduce
that
backlog
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
thankful
that
there
is
additional
staff
to
hopefully
prevent
us
once
we
can
get
to
the
backlog
of
continuing
that
in
the
future.
A
number
of
you
also
raised
issues
about
article
85.
F
I
will
defer
a
bit
to
roseanne
and
carl
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
efforts
there,
but
I
do
think
that
we
from
what
I
understand
from
staff,
are
in
a
better
place
than
we
have
been
in
a
long
time
to
really
move
article
85
forward
as
something
that
could
really
help
to
support
and
sustain
the
naming
of
landmarks
and
the
protection
of
our
historic
resources.
F
Multiple
of
you
named
the
fact
that
it
is
often
true
that,
by
the
time
the
process
moves
forward.
Sometimes
the
property
has
already
been
demolished,
and
so
we
we
recognize
that.
That
is
a
structural
challenge
that
we've
got
to
fix,
because
if
we
don't
actually
have
the
tools
to
save
save
landmarks,
then
we
will
always
be
behind
the
eight
ball.
F
Finally,
I
want
to
take
a
moment
to
to
address
the
question
around
green
jobs,
because
that
came
up
and,
as
you
know,
this
is
a
new
area.
This
is
something
that
the
mayor
put
in
the
upcoming
budget.
We're
very
excited
about
these
resources
wanted
to
share
a
few
high-level
things.
One
is
that
we
are
excited
by
the
scale
of
resources
and
our
intention
is
to
begin
some
level
of
implementation
over
the
next
year.
F
F
I
have
also
been
engaged
in
this
conversation
recently
as
a
member
of
the
steering
committee
of
master
news,
which
was
originally
the
national
green,
the
statewide
green
new
deal
table
and
also
renewed
new
england
again
that
takes
its
leadership
from
the
green
new
deal.
So
very
much
looking
forward
to
engaging
you
in
this
conversation
have
looked
at
a
number
of
models.
I
know
council
black,
you
mentioned
specifically
the
philadelphia
model,
really
exciting
possibilities
there.
F
We
also
have
folks
reaching
out
to
us
from
rcc
and
be
fit
and
and
want
to
engage
folks
in
madison
park.
So
our
first
goal
is
to
put
together
a
community
advisory
board,
but
we
want
to
move
that
quickly
and
aggressively
using
some
of
the
model
of
the
way
that
the
cce
work
was
done.
I
sat
on
that
community
advisory
board
and
we
made
sure
that
every
meeting
when
people
showed
up
there
was
clear
information,
clear
decision
making
points,
and
I
would
say
our
department
did
a
great
job.
F
Now
we
can
have
a
deeper
conversation
about
the
dpu
and
what
whether
or
not
they
have
been
the
best
partner
in
moving
it
forward.
But
I
do
think
that
that
process
was
one
where
people
were
well
engaged
and
we
were
able
to
move
decisions
well,
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
some
of
you
as
members
of
that
community
advisory
board,
as
we
figure
out
how
to
bring
together
primary
ad
and
higher
ed
and
labor
employers
and
advocates
together
to
move
this
forward.
F
F
We
also
are
highly
already
had
a
plan
moving
forward
on
heat,
which
we
will
continue
in
the
process
that
we
had,
but
also
do
some
accelerated
interventions
this
summer,
specifically
around
some
of
our
communities
that
have
are
heavily
hit
by
heat
and
have
also
been
hit
by
covid.
We
think
there's
an
opportunity
in
the
recovery
work
already
planned
for
our
neighborhoods
to
take
both
the
research
and
the
community
advisory
board
already
formed
for
heat
and
apply
that
right
now
to
support
residents
as
we
try
to
recover
from
coven.
F
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
chief
white
hammond
and
yes,
I
should
have
said
obviously
welcome
to
the
chamber
in
this
role
very
well
aware
that
you're
familiar
with
it,
if
not
in
this
virtual
form
prior
did
you
did
you
mentioned
a
couple
of
things
that
you
were
that
maybe
commissioner
spectre
was
going
to
speak
to.
Did
anyone
on
your
team
want
to
say
anything
before
I
go
to
counsel
their
questions,
or
should
we
have
those
things
come
out
over
the
course
of
counselor
questions.
F
So,
commissioner,
spector
did
you
want
to
add
anything
specific
we've
gone
through
we've
taken
all
of
your
questions.
We
had
a
meeting
on
friday
to
really
go
through
them
and
obviously
prioritizing
the
voices
of
folks
who
work
on
the
specific
elements.
So
I
know
there
were
questions
on
everything
from
wetlands
to
to
boston,
so
I
think
it
makes
the
most
sense
to
have
the
staff
working
directly
on
those
name
it.
But
commissioner
spector
did
you
also
want
to
add
some
opening
remarks.
A
All
right,
great,
fantastic,
yes,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
sending
back
the
answers
to
those
questions.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
review
them
and
hope
that
other
counselors
have
as
well.
A
I
I
have
lots
of
lots
of
questions
and
follow-ups,
but
I'm
gonna
as
the
chair
back
clean
up
so
I'll
go
first
to
my
vice
chair
on
ways
and
means
counter
savvy
george
at
large,
the
one
thing
I'll
just
remind
colleagues
of
last
week
we
hadn't
yet
had
any
working
sessions
and
so
or
two
weeks
ago
when
we
were
doing
hearings,
and
so
I
I
sort
of
let
people
do
the
thing
where
you
spend
your
entire
time,
asking
the
questions,
and
then
we
get
to
the
end
of
your
time
and
there
hasn't
been
any
time
for
the
departments
to
answer
since,
in
this
instance,
we've
now
had
working
sessions.
A
I
would
appreciate
it
if
counselors
would.
You
know,
ask
questions
and
leave
some
of
your
allocated
time
for
us
to
hear
back
from
the
departments
in
that
block,
so
counselor
sabi,
george
I'll
trust
you
to
model
that
first.
K
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
I
hope
to
not
disappoint
and
thank
you,
chief
mary,
emma
white
hammond,
for
joining
us
today,
and
congratulations
on
this
new
role
for
you.
I'd
love
it.
If
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
development
and
expansion
of
the
green
jobs,
training
program
and
those
partnerships,
what
are
the
types
of
partnerships
you're
looking
for,
and
you
mentioned
this
role
of
a
community
advisory
board.
What
is
the
timeline
for
this
and
when
you
put
this
together,
what
will
the
focus
be
on
during
that
time?
K
F
Okay,
great
so
internally,
we've
talked
about
and,
and
I'll
say
this
literally
we've
had
one
week
of
beginning
this
conversation.
So
there
are
things
that
may
certainly
evolve
over
time.
Our
because
heat
and
food
justice
are
both
very
summer
dependent.
They
will
have
a
a
shelf
life
and
then
be
done.
We
will
be
giving
particularly
he
a
strong
priority
over
the
summer.
That
being
said,
the
goal
would
be
to
form
the
community
advisory
board,
possibly
as
early
as
the
second
week
in
june.
That
doesn't
mean
it
will
be
closed.
F
We
had
a
deep
conversation
about
wanting
to
get
everyone
at
the
table,
but
also
wanting
to
move
with
some
haste.
So
the
idea
was
that
we
would
begin
pulling
that
advisory
board
together
by
june
and
then
have
june
july
and
august
both
to
put
ideas
together,
get
some
consensus
and
preferably
release
something.
F
In
early
september,
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
moving
to
some
level
of
pilot.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
resources
can
hit
the
ground
we
do
not
want?
I
mean
it
is
very
possible
to
spend
a
year
planning,
but
the
goal
is:
how
do
we
get?
Some
of
those
resources
out
into
the
community
in
short
order,
so
I
have
already
gotten
outreach
from
folks
at
rcc
and
ben
franklin.
Those
are
the
two
places
that
you
know
have
heard
and
are
ready
to
go.
F
We
I've,
I
know
I'll,
be
in
conversation
with
councillor
bach,
who
reached
out
councillor
wu,
has
also
shared
some
information,
and
I'm
trying
to
remember.
There's
someone
and
looking
forward
to
a
conversation
with
trinwyn
who's
done
quite
a
bit
of
work
on
the
workforce
development
side
of
this.
So
the
question
is:
how
can
we
get
everyone?
Who's
invested
the
table
in
short
order.
F
It
will
be
the
responsibility
of
our
department
to
make
those
meetings
be
less
brainstorming
and
more
decision-making
oriented,
because
I
think
that's
the
only
way
we
can
get
to
some
level
of
release
by
september
1st,
so
we're
just
hoping
to
build
on.
What's
already
been
done,
so
we
we
won't
be
convening
people
starting
at
zero.
There
are
number
of
folks
in
the
department
who
worked
on
brad
swing
has
done
some
work
to
help
be
fit
at
one
point,
I
think
it
was
to
to
craft
some
curriculum.
F
So
there's
there's
not
a
there's.
There
is
some
expertise
already
there.
The
big
question
is:
how
will
we
there's
a
wide
universe
of
what
we
could
be
working
on?
My
thinking
at
this
point,
though,
I'm
open
is
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
particularly
young
adults
at
the
beginning
of
getting
them
on
a
green
jobs
pathway.
That
doesn't
mean
we
won't
look
at
anything
else,
but
I'm
I'm
guessing
as
an
example.
We
wouldn't
be
going
all
the
way
back
to
elementary
right.
F
We
can
get
there
at
some
point,
but
for
right
now,
we'd
be
looking
at
young
adults
onboarding
into
green
jobs.
So.
K
I
love
the
relationship
and
the
the
hope
for
a
partnership
with
befit
and
rcc.
Please
don't
forget
about
madison
park,
folk
tech
and
those
those
are
those
are
our
young
people
and
making
sure
they
have.
You
know
access
and
opportunity
to
these
trainings
and
the
partnerships,
because
there
are
some
natural
relationships
between
madison
park
in
rcc
and
be
fit
already.
So,
let's,
let's
build
upon
that.
K
F
The
three
schools
that
I
already
have
on
the
list,
I'm
just
being
transparent-
none
of
them
have
reached
out
to
us,
yet
we
will
have
to
do
the
outreach
to
them
is
madison
and
o'brien
they're
right
there
in
that
corner
and
makes
a
lot
of
sense
with
the
science
focus
we
feel
like
o'brien
should
also,
you
know,
have
some
some
contribution
and
then
boston
green
academy.
F
No,
there
have
been
conversations
in
this
direction
already,
and
so
our
job
would
be
to
have
conversations
with
those
three
schools
sort
of
see
where
they
already
are.
But,
yes,
we
are.
We
are
well
aware
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
our
bps
schools
are
deeply
engaged
in
this
process.
K
Great
thank
you,
and
I
know
bga
happened
to
talk
with
them
last
week
and
they'd
be
a
great
partner
as
well
in
this,
but
I'd
say
you
know
in
order
of
importance
really
making
sure
that
madison
and
our
those
programs
over
there
have
access
to
this
and
then
very
quickly.
Madam
chair,
if
I
could
just
ask
about
the
clean
air
community
grant
program,
how
much
of
those
grants
for
and
how
often
will
they
be
offered.
F
Process
alison,
do
you
want
to
follow
up
about
this
in
greater
debt.
L
Sure,
thank
you
chief.
Thank
you.
Counselors.
The
community,
clean
air
grant
opportunity
was
just
launched,
we're
in
the
process
of
a
noun
of
hosting
webinars
and
one-on-one
help
sessions
to
help
people
through
the
process.
F
And
and
just
anecdotally,
I
did
have
a
conversation
today
with
chief
martinez
sort
of
noting
that
they
that
they're,
that
they
have
some
folks
who've,
been
working
on
pollution
and
other
eg
issues,
and
he
said
it
made
total
sense
that
they'd
have
some
ability
to,
through
the
health,
commission
and
other
parts
of
hhs
to
share
that
application
more
widely.
So
it's
just
come
out,
but
we
will
make
sure
that
we
are
leaving
no
stone
unturned
into
in
terms
of
where
we
might
find
folks
who
are
committed
to
this
issue.
K
Great
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
so
much
councillor,
asabi
george
next
up
is
councillor
ed
flynn.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
cheer
brock,
it's
good
to
see
the
it's
good
to
see
chief
white
hammond
and
the
other
dedicated
and
professional
city
employees
present.
Thank
you
for
the
work
you
do.
Chief
one
issue,
that's
a
main
priority
for
me
since
I've
started
on
the
council.
Is
the
air
pollution
level
in
chinatown
highest
air
pollution
of
any
neighborhood
in
massachusetts?
E
Obviously,
for
several
reasons
right
on
top
of
the
the
mass
pike
right
on
top
of
the
highway
close
to
south
station
train
south
station
bus,
major
truck
routes
from
maine
to
florida
and
in
a
dense
residential
area,
I
always
felt
like
we're
not
doing
enough
in
in
chinatown
on
air
pollution,
and
I'm
I'm
frustrated
really,
I'm
really
frustrated.
E
F
So
I
have
two
responses
that
so,
first
of
all,
I
would
love
to
sit
down
and
go
deeper
to
hear
more
about
sort
of
where
you've
already
what
what
things
have
already
been
explored.
I
do
also
know
we
won't
talk
about
the
urban
forestry
plan
in
this
meeting.
That
will
also
be
that's
a
that's
a
parks
question.
So
I
know
we
have
an
upcoming
parks
hearing
too.
F
So
that's,
I
think,
one
part
of
of
the
solution,
but
I
do
I
think
that
obviously
air
pollution
I
actually
live
in
dorchester,
quite
close
to
the
highway.
So
I
know
in
the
winter
we
can
blow
our
nose
and
see
the
pollution
in
the
tissue,
and
I
I
know
that
is
clearly
not
a
good
situation
for
our
health.
F
B
Sure
sure
thank
you
councillor.
Thank
you
chief.
Thank
you
counselor
for
the
question,
so
there's
a
long-term
answer,
of
course,
which
is
reducing
the
amount
of
traffic
and
reducing
the
amount
of
pollution
coming
from
vehicles
on
the
road.
Of
course,
that's
part
of
the
goals
of
our
climate
plan
and
the
go
boston,
2030
plan,
and
we
work
very
closely
with
the
transportation
department
and
and
others
to
address
that
now.
B
That's
that's
because
most
of
the
pollution,
as
you've
noted,
is
from
vehicles
so
that
that
is
a
long-term
plan
and
how
we
address
the
short
term
in
the
short
term
is
much
harder.
Obviously,
there
are
things
that
we
do
on
the
local
roads
that
there's
the
parking
freeze
to
that
tries
to
reduce
the
amount
of
commuting
into
these
neighborhoods
and
downtown
neighborhoods.
That
also
helps
a
little
bit.
B
We
certainly
advise
when
it
comes
up
when
we
have
an
opportunity
about
to
developers
of
new
projects
about
where
they
put
their
ventilation
vents.
You
know
to
keep
them
away
from
the
highway
with
the
air
intakes
things
like
that.
B
That's
frankly,
the
extent
of
the
authority
that
we
have,
if
you
have
other
ideas
or
perhaps
there
will
be
other
ideas
that
come
out
through
the
community
clean
air
grants
program,
we
are
we'd,
be
very
interested
in
looking
at
those
and,
of
course,
working
with
you
on
that,
both
in
the
short
and
long
term.
F
We'd
love
to
also
figure
out
if
there
are
organizations
that
you
think
we
should
specifically
be
targeting
in
chinatown.
There
are.
Some
cpa
is
already
involved
in
and
a
number
of
our
processes,
but
if
there
are
other
ways
to
make
the
clean
air
grants
attractive,
make
people
aware
of
them
in
the
short
term.
It
doesn't
fix
it
all,
but
at
least
it
means
that
we
can
be
targeting
the
resources
we
do
have
to
the
communities
that
need
them.
The
most.
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
I'd
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
work
with
you.
I
always
felt
that
basic
city
services
in
chinatown
were
not
always
there.
So
that's
my
that's.
What
I
want
to
do
is
work
closely
with
you
to
make
sure
we
get
more
services
in
chinatown
because
it
is
frustrating
to
me.
You
know
trying
to
get
more
basic
city
services
and
help
into
the
community.
So
I
I
hope
we
can
work
together
on
that.
E
I
was
having
to
talk
about
these
waterfront,
the
south
boston,
waterfront
fort
point,
the
wharf
district
council.
What
are
we
doing
on
climate,
resiliency
infrastructure
changes
or
improvements
in
and
around
the
boston
harbor
on
those
in
those
neighborhoods.
F
Great
I'll
hand
that
over
to
allison
to
share
some
of
the
interventions,
we've
already
been
working
on
and
again
thanks
for
conversation
as
we
as
we
work
to
to
deepen
that
sure.
L
Thank
you
chief
and
thank
you
for
the
question
counselor.
I
think.
As
you're
aware,
we've
undertaken
a
series
of
specific
coastal
plans
that
look
parcel
by
parcel
along
the
coast
to
understand
the
flood
pathways
and
then
work
with
the
community
and
technical
experts
to
to
develop
the
implementation
plans.
If
they
were
the
implementation
to-do
list
along
the
coast.
L
That
was
an
application
to
fema
we're
in
the
last
round
of
review
there
and
hope
to
have
that
officially
accepted
so
that
we
can
move
into
implementation
shortly.
We're
pursuing
that
same
process
in
east
boston
along
the
harbor
front
along
the
lewis
street
mall,
where
we've
moved
with
a
grant
from
coastal
zone
management
at
the
state
to
a
design
and
development
process
for
for
passive
flood
protection
barriers
there.
L
That
would
close
off
major
flood
pathways
into
east
boston,
we're
also
developing
resilient
parks
and
happy
to
give
you
much
more
detail
where
we're
elevating
elements
of
mcconnell
park.
Lingo
and
papalo
martin's
park,
as
we
do
them
in
our
capital
planning
to
make
sure
that
they
are
closing
off
major
pieces
of
the
flood
pathways
into
those
neighborhoods.
While
continuing
to
provide
access
for
public
activity.
Public
recreation
within
the
park
so
happy
to
give
you
more
details
on
any
specific
elements
of
those.
If
you're
interested
offline.
E
E
Yeah,
it
will
be
very
brief,
spanish
speaking
or
cantonese
speaking
employees
at
your
department.
How
many
do
you
have.
F
I
believe
we
have
no
cantonese
speaking
that
I
am
aware
of,
and
I
am
I,
the
only
spanish
speaking,
I
think
is
there
yeah.
So
just
so,
you
know
that
is
one
of
our
priorities
in
terms
of
hiring
is
having
more
folks
in
the
department
who
have
language
fluency.
F
So
that
is
definitely
on
the
list
of
places
that
we
can
improve
in
the
short
term,
also
just
doing
a
better
job
of
having
a
relationship
with
the
translation
services
that
are
available
at
the
city,
making
sure
that
we
we
provide
that
support
on
the
front
end,
so
that
more
folks
will
want
to
join
in
one
other
quick
thing.
I'll
note.
In
terms
of
this,
this
question
around
waterfront
and
a
number
of
others.
F
There
are
many
instances
where
we
know
what
needs
to
be
done,
and
we
just
need
the
resources
to
be
able
to
implement
some
of
some
of
these
and.
F
Small
projects-
and
some
of
them
are
quite
large,
so
one
of
the
things
that
our
staff
will
be
working
on
over
the
coming
weeks
in
anticipation
both
of
covert
dollars
that
are
being
made
available
and
the
potential
large
infrastructure
dollars
that
are
being
discussed
at
the
federal
level.
I
am
a
big
leslie
knope
fan,
and
I
think
this
job
is
the
closest
I'm
ever
going
to
get
to
being
able
to
be
like
leslie,
knope
and
one
of
her
signature.
F
Things
is
to
have
a
binder,
and
so
our
goal
is
to
have
a
binder
that
sort
of
breaks
down
the
projects
that
we
have
making
it
possible,
as
resources
are
flowing
into
the
city,
to
make
sure
that
we've
prioritized
what
we're
looking
to
do,
what
it
will
cost
which
to
having
pre-conversations
with
other
departments
which
which
we
need
to
work
with,
so
that
as
there's
a
possibility,
some
of
the
infrastructure
dollars
coming.
We
can
propose
those
quickly
and
efficiently
and
move
some
of
these
projects
forward.
E
A
Thank
you,
councillor
flynn,
next
step's
going
to
be
counselor
braden,
then
councilor
mejia
and
I
just
want
to
know
that
we
were
joined
some
time
ago
by
councillor
michael
flaherty
at
large
and
councillor
lydia
edwards
of
district
1.,
councillor
braden.
M
I
thank
you
for
the
responses
to
the
questions
that
we
sent
in.
I
really
appreciate
that.
I
would
also
you
know
in
terms
of
the
air
quality
issue.
The
mass
pike
was
was
driven
through
austin,
brighton
and
chinatown.
M
Many
many
people
were
displaced
and
we
still
have
a
lot
of
folks
who
live
in
close
proximity
to
the
mass
pike.
I
I
as
the
crow
flies,
I'm
about
a
quarter
of
them
half
a
mile
away
and
there's
a
lot
of
particulate
matter
that
lands
on
our
outdoor
furniture
and
and
and
I
live
a
distance
away
so
again
when
any
conversation
about
air
quality.
M
I'd
like
to
flag
up
the
the
concerns
of
folks
who
live
in
allston
and
along
north
of
the
pike,
especially
because
they're,
very,
very
close
to
a
very
huge
level
of
traffic
every
day
the
heat
island
effect.
There
is
a
differential
out
here
in
the
western
part
of
the
neighborhood
in
oak
square,
there's
quite
a
lot
of
greenery
more
tree
street
trees
in
austin,
there's
very
few
street
trees
in
the
height
of
the
summer.
M
M
The
tree
planting
program,
I'd
love
to
see
more
trees
planted
close
to
our
public
housing.
Faneuil
gardens
is
again
close
to
the
mass
pike
it
is.
It
has
open
spaces
around
this
building,
so
it
doesn't
have
green.
It
doesn't
have
trees.
So
I
think,
having
having
a
very
intentional
approach
to
tree
planting
in
and
around
public
housing
developments
would
be
really
really
helpful.
M
I
just
wonder
you
know:
there's
a
huge.
The
north
north
of
the
pike
in
north
austin
brighton
is
the
is
the
flood
plain
of
the
charles
river,
and
it
is
anticipated
that
when
there
is
an
extreme
weather
event
that
drops
a
lot
of
precipitation
that
that
neighborhood
will
be
flooded.
There
is
a
a
project
in
the
works
at
the
moment.
M
That's
been
proposed
by
harvard
and
in
partnership
with
harvard
and
the
and
the
boston
modern
sewer
to
put
in
like
a
six
foot,
storm
water
pipe
that
would
go
into
the
charles.
M
Some
of
our
environmentalists
in
the
neighborhood
are
concerned
that
okay,
that's
all
very
well,
it's
a
it's
a
grey
infrastructure,
but
we
need
to
really
address
the
upstream
strategies
that
we
can
use
to
decrease
the
amount
of
runoff
in
terms
of
green
infrastructure.
Bioswales,
permeable
pavements,
bioswales
rain
gardens,
and
I
was
just
wondering
art:
do
you
have
any
programs
that
educate
and
incentivize
that
sort
of
green
infrastructure
even
at
a
household
level
and
I'll
leave
that
those
are
the
questions
I
have.
F
Thank
you,
council
braden.
We
are
checking
right
now.
We
do
have
the
community
advisory
board
for
heat
and
allison.
Do
we
know
if
there's
anyone
from
austin
brighton
on
that
board?
As
we
know
it,
I'm
checking.
F
On
that
counselor,
so
we
will
check
into
that.
What
I
will
say
is
if
we
find
that
there
isn't
anyone,
it's
it's
not
too
late
and
we
can
work
with
you
to
figure
out
folks
from
austin
brighton
who
are
concerned
about
heat,
island
and
we'd
love
for
them
to
be
engaged
in
the
conversation
as
we
move
that
project
forward.
F
I
will
defer
to
commissioner
specter
on
the
question
of
green
infrastructure
and
stormwater.
B
Yes,
so
thank
you,
councillor
braden,
so,
first
of
all
there
a
couple
years
ago,
the
bpda
adopted
the
smart
utilities
policy,
which
did
raise
the
amount
of
requirements
for
the
amount
of
infiltration
that
large
projects
needed
to
have
from
the
first
inch
of
range
to
an
inch
and
a
quarter.
So
that
may
not
sound
like
a
lot,
but
that
is
actually
quite
a
substantial
increase,
so
that
starts
one
of
the
pieces
to
get
at.
B
You
know
this
dealing
with
stormwater
that
you
mentioned
also,
you
know
the
the
tree
canopy
plan
that
the
chief
mentioned
that
parks
is
undertaking
will
will
address
that
we,
we
don't
have
any
specific
programs
that
work
at
the
you
know
the
household
level,
but
we
certainly
look
forward
to
exploring
those
kinds
of
ideas
and
we
are
working
forward
to
do
a
more
in-depth
analysis
working
in
partnership
with
the
boston,
water
and
sewer
commission
to
understand
how
increased
precipitation
due
to
climate
change
will
affect
will
affect
flooding
in
all
parts
of
the
city.
B
So
you
know
it's
definitely
on
our
list
of
things
to
do.
You
know,
I
think,
you'll
understand
that
we
did
give.
You
know
a
lot
of
attention
to
sea
level
rise
to
start
and
now
we're
working
very
strongly
in
the
heat,
but
we
have
not
forgotten
at
all.
The
problems
do
precipitation
do
both
due
to
flooding
and,
of
course,
to
the
water
quality
issues
which
of
course
go
along
with
that.
F
And
council
braided,
just
as
a
follow-up,
we
did
look
at
the
list.
We
do
not
have
someone
from
austin
brighton.
That
was
an
application
process,
so
my
guess
is.
We
also
did
not
receive
an
application
for
someone,
because
we
did
a
lot
of
work
to
balance
neighborhoods,
so
we'd
love
to
work
with
your
office
to
figure
out.
Are
there
folks
that
we
could
be
bringing
on
to
the
cab
the
community
advisory
board
around
heat
from
austin
brighton,
and
particularly,
I
think
from
the
you
had
mentioned.
F
C
Program
and
its
capacity
to
help
with
green
infrastructure,
it
is
one
of
the
identified
technologies
that
developers
have
to
answer
questions
about
and
do
serious
planning
work.
The
point
I
want
to
raise
is
that
the
administration
of
this
policy
involves
a
steering
committee.
That
is
an
example
of
interdepartmental
and
interagency
coordination,
that
very
early
and
up
front
requires
developers
to
deal
with
energy
and
utility
infrastructure,
and
so
the
boston,
water
and
sewer
commission
is
actively
involved
in
every
other
week.
C
Meetings
with
an
interdepartmental
and
interagency
team
on
all
the
major
projects,
and
so
the
capacity
to
deal
institutionally
with
harvard
and
the
pipe
that
councilor
breden
reached
raised
is,
is
something
that
can
be
handled
in
an
interdepartmental
and
interagency
way
through
the
smart
utilities
program
and
its
process.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
I'm
sure
my
time's
up.
A
Yes,
that
was
the
time
we're
going
just
then
so
thanks
so
much
counselor
brayden
and
next
up
is
counselor,
mojito
and
then
it'll
be
counselor.
O'malley
counselor.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
chief
white
hammond.
I'm
really
excited
to
see
you
in
this
role
and
to
your
entire
team.
I
just
have
a
few
questions
in
the
memo
that
we
received
this
morning
from
your
office,
you
mentioned
a
new
role
to
help
facilitate
climate
compliance
with
small
businesses.
J
Can
you
go
further
into
detail
about
what
that
person
would
do,
and
how
are
we
using
this
person
to
activate
small
business
owners
of
color,
in
particular,
who
are
not
usually
plugged
into
the
climate
conversation,
and
you
know
with
the
same
line
of
thinking,
particularly
our
immigrant
owned
businesses,
who
who
speak
multiple
languages
kind
of
what
the
capacity
would
look
like
in
terms
of
supporting
them,
and
then
jersey
city,
for
example,
is
working
on
a
green
business
certification
program?
J
Are
we
looking
at
other
cities
to
see
them
as
a
as
a
model
as
different
models
and
then
bouncing
off
of
council
breeding's
question
about
street
trees?
What
are
what
role
has
the
environment
department
played
in
the
conversation
around
the
mass
and
cast
redevelopment
project,
particularly
around
saving
the
street
trees?
J
I
understand
that
you
asked
us
to
ask
this
question
to
the
transportation
department
which
we
will
but
we'd
like
to
know
how
the
environmental
department
is
working
in
collaboration
with
the
btd,
to
ensure
this
project
maintains
a
green
lens,
and
there
was
also
some
mention
around
heat
planning
initiatives
with
the
goal
of
finding
short-term
and
long-term
solutions.
Are
there
any
other
details
you
can
share
more
specifically
what
early
work
are
we
looking
at
in
terms
of
how
to
implement
these
goals,
and
then
I
have
some
questions
from
landmarks,
chair
braden.
A
Well,
I
think
if,
if
maybe
we
could
go
to
the
questions
you
just
asked
of
the
chief
and
then
get
to
those
just
to
make
sure
it
fits
the
time.
Thank
you.
F
Hey
all
right,
so
I
will
try
to
move
to
the
ones.
I
think
I
can
do
quickly
so
with
the
heat
islands
we
so
the
process
was
already
moving
in
terms
of
putting
together
a
community
advisory
board.
That
was
really
good
outreach
to
get
folks
on
there.
Then
we
looked
at
if
there
were
any
neighborhoods
that
were
missing.
F
That
process
just
closed
last
week,
so
again,
really
thankful
for
the
opportunity,
if
there
are
any
other
holes
in
sort
of
that
representation
to
get
support
from
the
council
on
folks
that
you
think
would
be
great.
We
are
trying
to
apply
for
some
of
the
covert
dollars
that
are
coming
into
the
city,
and
so
we
would
be
looking
at
places
to
address
heat
in
the
short
term
that
have
also
had
high
covet
infection
rates
and
have
been
particularly
hard
hit
in
in
early
assessment.
We
have
not
finished
that
assessment.
F
Matapan
looks
like
a
neighborhood
where
we
will
need
to
focus
some
some
resources
in
terms
of
neighborhoods,
that
we
know
there's
a
direct
overlap
in
terms
of
heat
and
and
covered
vulnerability.
But
my
guess
is:
it
will
not
end
there
because
it
is
the
summer
and
because
it
is
on
it
is
may
already.
We
won't
be
able
to
do
everything
we
would
have
hoped
for
this
this
summer.
F
But
the
good
thing
is
that
there
was
already
a
process
in
place
to
look
more
long-term
and
to
keep
that
that
going
forward
so
we'll
make
some
interventions
this
summer
and
then
immediately
after
begin
planning
for
what
interventions
make
sense
for
next
summer
and
beyond.
I
do
want
to
give
allison
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
small
business
side
of
things
and
that
will
take
a
little
bit
so
on
the
tree
side.
I
want
to
see
if
anybody
from
the
team
has
any
input
on
that.
Technically.
F
That
area
is
not
one,
that's
deeply
under
our
jurisdiction,
but
I
do
think
we
can
ask
question
about
if
there's
a
way
to
engage
the
tree,
planting
side
of
things
really
does
sit
within
parks,
and
so
it
might
make
more
sense
for
parks
to
be
doing
some
of
that
building
and
relationship
building
with
with
dot.
But
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
other
staff
that
have
other
things
that
you
want
to
add
to
that.
B
Well,
in
regard
to
melania
castro,
we
counselor
we
serve
as
a
support
function.
You
know
we
we're
working
with
the
transportation
department
to
understand
how
they're
analyzing
it
think
about
the
effects
on
water
and
heat,
and
you
know
to
help
help
their
analysis
and
and-
and
you
know,
ensure
it's
soundness.
So
that's
that's.
That
is
our
primarily
primary
role
there.
I
I
think
we
should
turn
over
to
allison
and
let
her
talk
about
how
we're
gonna
can
expand
our
support
of
residents
and
small
businesses
around
climate
allison.
L
Sure,
thank
you
councillor.
As
you
noted
there,
the
mayor
included
a
new
position
in
the
proposed
budget.
That
would
help
us
do
exactly
what
you're
describing,
which
is
to
to
strengthen
our
outreach
to
small
businesses
and
help
connect
them
with
resources
both
to
save
energy
increase
their
energy
efficiency,
reduce
their
emissions,
but
also
to
connect
them
to
resources
that
would
help
protect
them
from
flooding
or
extreme
heat
or
other
events,
and
make
sure
that
we
can
build
that
into
economic
development
opportunities
and
connections
to
those
pathways
throughout
the
city.
J
Thank
you
and
before
I
move
on
to
the
landmark
question
that
I
have
and
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
you
have
been
working
with
the
public
health
commission.
You
know
I
I
often
see
the
correlation
between
heating
and
violence
and
the
uptick
during
the
summer
and
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
violence,
prevention
and
the
intersection
of
environmental
justice
as
as
one
conversation
because
oftentimes
we
miss
the
mark,
at
least
in
our
community,
that
we
don't
understand
this
connection.
J
So
I'm
curious
chief
hammond,
and
I
know
that
you
are
really
big
on
making
sure
that
we
see
the
bigger
picture.
And
all
of
this
can
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you're
thinking
around
violence,
prevention
and
the
in
the
intersection
of
environmental.
The
heating
patterns
in
our
neighborhoods.
F
All
right
and
I'll
do
this
briefly
and
then
I'd
love
to
sit
down
and
talk
more,
but
you
know
what
your
name
is
exactly
what
chief
martinez
just
mentioned,
and
you
know
I
had
set
meant
to
sit
with
him
and
catalina
to
talk
about
food
justice,
but
what
we
agreed
is
that
it
makes
more
sense
for
us
to
sit
down
with
all
of
their
nine
department
heads
because
there's
so
much
overlap
in
terms
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
everything
from
child
and
maternal
health.
F
The
other
thing
that
was
mentioned
is
that
the
vip
violence
prevention
work,
a
lot
of
their
focus,
has
been
on
activating
open
spaces,
and
so
you
know
I
know
this
is
not
a
parks
hearing,
but
that,
but
that
is
another
a
key
piece
of
how
do
we
use
the
open
spaces
we
already
have
as
as
ways
of
building
community,
rather
than
in
some
instances?
Sometimes
they
can
be
spaces
where
not
the
most
positive
of
activity.
F
How
do
we
shift,
though,
that
that
orientation,
so
that,
when
our
kids
are
using
the
products
that
they
are
safe,
that
people
are
out
there
enough
that
they
actually
feel
watched
over
in
that
in
that
healthy
and
positive
way,
that
you
know
that
if
you
act
up
somebody's
going
to
see
you
and
that
can
help
to
bring
out
the
best
of
who
you
are
in
in
some
moments?
But
I
do
think,
there's
a
lot
of
space
to
have
the
those
intersecting
conversations
and
look
forward
to
going
deeper.
J
Yeah-
and
I
just
realized
that
the
landmarks
is
a
separate
commission,
so
no
it's
it's.
A
Under
us
it's
part
of
this,
but
I
think
I
think
counselor
media
might
need
to
wait
for
the
second
round,
just
because
we're
we've
run
out
of
time.
I
want
to
get
everybody
in
for
their
first
round
first,
but
come
back
with
the
landmarks
questions,
because
we
do.
G
A
Carl
and
they're
definitely
a
topic
for
today.
All
right
next
up
is
councillor
o'malley
and
then
it'll
be
councillor
campbell,
councillor
o'malley.
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
chair
and
good
morning,
chief,
congratulations
great
to
be
working
with
you
and
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
also
acknowledge
the
incredible
work
of
carl
spector,
allison
brezius,
brad
swain,
so
many
others
who
just
have
been
great
partners
to
me
for
the
last
10
years.
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
doing
some
good
work,
as
I
wrap
up
my
final
year
on
the
council.
Thank
you
for
submitting
questions
to
answers
to
our
questions
from
the
working
session.
I
I
just
received
them
this
morning,
so
I
haven't
really
gone
over
them
in
two
depth,
but
I
want
to
touch
upon
two
things
before
I
get
to
building
standards,
which
is
the
main
thrust
of
my
questions.
The
first
as
it
relates
to
cce.
It
would
appear
that
the
good
news
is
less
than
one
percent
of
rate
payers
opted
down.
I
The
not
so
good
news
is
half
of
one
percent
seem
to
have
opted
up
so
being
one
of
those
933
individuals
or
families
which
we're
very
lucky.
We
we
have
we're
able.
E
I
Opt
up,
I'm
just
very,
very
curious
what
it
was
that
what
we
expected
I
mean
the
bottom
line
is
for
standard
sort
of
the
standard
customer
counselor
at
98.5.
Is
that
what
we
expected?
I
know,
there's
been
tremendous
outreach.
I've
retweeted
it
most
times
in
terms
of
just
having
online
and
digital
office
hours.
Through
this
time.
I
don't
anticipate.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
takers,
but
nevertheless
I
don't
know
allison.
If
you
want
to
hop
in
you're
nodding
your
head.
L
I
Great
notice,
I'm
on
my
phone,
so
I
can't
see
anyone
so
I
see
jill
russo's
joined
us
as
well.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
joe
for
partnership,
but
brad
go
ahead.
Counselor.
C
It
is,
unfortunately
what
we
expected
we,
we
do
hope
to
continue
to
do
outreach
to
convince
people
that
can
afford
to
do
100
green
to
opt
up.
It's
one
of
the
most
consequential
individual
actions.
Anyone
can
take
to
address
the
climate
crisis
in
our
own.
C
At
the
municipal
energy
unit,
which
I
oversee,
we
always
make
the
message
that
we
can
never
guarantee
that
our
rates
will
be
competitive
with
eversource,
but
they
are
right
now,
and
we
also
make
the
message
that
we
are
very
concerned
about
energy
affordability
and
so
at
the
exact
same
time
that
we
urge
our
residents,
who
can
afford
and
are
motivated
to
do
100
green
to
do
so.
We
always
have
a
message
that
there
is
a
more
affordable
option
to
to
appreciate.
I
I
We
have
proven
that
we
can
increase
our
renewable
standards
and
lower
the
price,
and
I
assume
we
anticipate-
we
don't
know
yet
but
sort
of
the
second
round,
because
cce
is
evaluated
twice
a
year
in
the
second
round
will
be
june
may
or
june
right
yeah
in
the
next
month
or
so
so
then
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
see
if
we
can
get
even
more
competitive
rates.
So
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
I
Secondly-
and
I
don't
know
who
this
goes
to,
so
anyone
can
jump
in
obviously
mayor
walsh
had
decided
sort
of
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic,
to
suspend
our
plastic
bag
reduction,
ordinance,
which
I
I
supported.
It
then,
of
course,
went
back
into
effect
in
october.
What
we
are
seeing
now-
and
this
is
an
issue
that
did-
I
think
we
anticipated
it
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things.
I
It
is
what
it
is,
but
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
the
thinner,
those
flimsy
sort
of
one
or
two
mm
bags
that
many
stores
had
purchased
in
bulk
are
still
using,
even
though
that's
technically
not
in
compliance
with
the
law,
I
find
to
have
a
sort
of
a
grace
period
as
we
did
when
implementation
first
took
place,
but
do
we
have?
Is
there
been
communication
in
terms
of
just
keeping
an
eye
on
that
complaints?
I
know
we
had
used
code
enforcement
before
to
make
sure
that
there
was
widespread
adoption.
B
Yeah,
well,
I
don't
why
don't
I
do
that
yeah?
Thank
you
counselor,
so
yeah,
so
the
as
you
said,
the
plastic
bag
ordinance
is
now
back
in
full
effect.
I
have
noticed
the
same
thing
you
have
about
it.
B
Getting
a
little
wax
and
the
enforcement
is
through
the
inspectional
services
department
and-
and
I
what
I
will
do
is
I
will
talk
with
the
new
commissioner:
there
now
sean,
lydon
and
and
and
try
to
get
back
to
you
on
what
his
thoughts
about
enforcement
are
and
how
we
can
make
sure
the
message
is
getting
out
that
the
ordinance
is
back
in
full
effect.
Thank.
I
You
carl,
I
appreciate
that,
and
next
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
building
standards.
I
was
proud
that
this
council
led
the
way
in
terms
of
our
municipal
buildings.
We've
seen
other
things.
I
believe
it
was
last
year's
budget
hearing,
where
the
figure
that
we
had
sort
of
agreed
upon
was
looking
at
new
construction
of
20
000
square
feet
or
higher
is
that
correct
will
be
mandated
as
net
zero
carbon
construction.
L
That
that
is
what
is
in
our
draft
proposal
for
our
emissions
performance
standard
in
the
currently
under
development,
and
I
believe
it's
also
being
looked
closely
at
through
the
net
zero
zoning
process,
which
is
similarly
underway.
I
No,
I
appreciate
that
allison
so
where
and
that's
great
news,
so
I
I
don't
want
us
to
lose
that
that's,
I
think,
an
achievable
and
aggressive
goal
and
I
support
it
wholeheartedly.
What's
the
timeline
for
adoption,
because
last
year
it
was
sort
of
this
is
what
we're
looking
at.
We
hope
to
have
it
by
the
new
year
and
now
we're
five
and
a
half
months
into
the
new
year.
So
when
will
action
be
taken
to
codify
that,
so
what
happened?
Yeah.
F
So
we
most
of
the
work
that
this
department
has
to
do
is
is
done.
We
are
in
the
conversation
with
legal
department
and
sort
of
making
sure
that
we
that
our
our
teas
are
crossing
our
eyes
are
dotted.
This
was
one
of
the
things
that
chris
cook
raised
to
me
as
something
that
we
need
to
to
to
make
happen,
and
so
I
I
can't
say
our
our
our
office
is
moving
aggressively.
F
We
do
need
to
brief
the
mayor
on
on
this
to
make
sure
that
she
is
aware
of
those
standards,
but
I
think
we
can
move
this
in
short
order,
I'm
hesitant
to
give
you
an
exact
date,
but
I
definitely
will
follow
up
and
we
definitely
know
it's
at
the
top
of
the
list
and
are
moving
moving
things
quickly
here.
F
A
lot
of
the
good,
strong
work
of
saying
what
the
office
thinks
we
should
propose,
based
on
all
of
what
we
heard
from
all
the
stakeholders
has
been
done
and
and
yes,
we
are
moving
towards
finalized
language.
I
And
then
do
we
have
to
that
end?
Do
we
have
allocations
in
the
budget
for
additional
staff,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
bpda
that
would
have
to
help
serve
as
a
resource,
because
of
just
the
sheer
number
of
projects
that
would
come
down
the
pike.
F
Good
question:
I
I
do
know
that
a
lot
of
the
enforcement
of
this
is
outside
of
our
department,
not.
H
H
F
I
I
Because
the
last
thing,
I
think
any
of
us
want
is
an
unfunded
mandate,
and
this
is
this
is
not
an
indictment
on
any
one
of
us.
It's
an
indictment
on
all
of
us
that
comes
to
climate,
particularly,
we
do
a
great
job
of
making
these
grand
pronouncements
aggressive
plans,
but
actually
getting
the
the
the
the
will
and
the
movement
to
achieve
them
to
hit
these
goals
is,
can
can
be
difficult
at
times.
So
it's
something
that
that,
as
I
you
know,
begin
not
really
in
earnest
diving
into
my
budget
process.
I
This
is
something
that's
really
crucial
to
me.
The
the
gavel
is
up.
I
will
say
to
that,
and
really
after
my
next
round
will
be
the
beardo
2.0
and
some
more
specific
building
standards,
questions.
So
thank
you,
chief
and
thank
you
team
and
thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
counselor
o'malley
next
up
is
counselor
campbell.
Then
counselor
flaherty,
counselor
campbell.
You
have
the
floor.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
congratulations
cheap
on
the
new
role
and,
of
course,
you
have
an
incredible
team
working
that
you
work
with
long
long
time,
city
employees.
I
want
to
thank
them
as
well
for
for
their
incredible
work,
particularly
during
covet.
It's
not
an
easy
time.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
work
you're
doing
some
of
my
questions
were
asked.
O
I
I
really
appreciated
counselor
flynn's
question
around
air
pollution,
but
also
your
you
and
your
team's
response,
including
commissioner
specter,
that,
of
course
this
affects
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
in
the
city
of
boston,
major
issue,
clearly
being
exacerbated
by
cobit
or
revealing
what
we
already
knew
and
just
attaching,
I
think,
a
sense
of
urgency
to
our
response.
So
we'll
stay
in
touch
with
you
guys
on
those
efforts
as
well.
O
The
question
I
have
just
given
the
time
so
just
to
be
clear.
Maybe
this
is
for
you,
madam
chair,
and
the
response
and
first
of
all,
thank
you
all
for
the
responses.
Very
specific
responses
to
the
questions,
which
is
a
little
different
from
some
other
department,
so
really
appreciate
that
specificity.
O
Someone
is
laughing
because
she
knows
what
department
I'm
referencing
and
we'll
see
them
later
today,
but
on
the
the
how
we
look
at
the
city's
approach
to
conserving
privately
owned
land
or
urban
wilds
that
are
crucial
to
climate
resiliency.
I'm
assuming
this
should
be
saved
for
the
parks
department.
Madam
chair.
A
I
know
the
parcel
priority
plan
is
under
the
parks
department,
jurisdiction,
so.
B
O
Okay,
so
I
can
say
that
it
was
a
lot
of
questions
have
been
coming
up
on
just
how
the
sites
of
research
valued
approach.
You
know
what
what's
the
role
the
city
plays,
but
I
can
wait
for
that
that
budget
hearing
the
second
no,
this
was,
I
guess,
I'll
wait.
Are
we
waiting
for
landmarks
as
well?
Counselor
bob
landmarks.
O
Some
of
my
questions
were
answered
for
environment
or
I
got
specific
responses.
I'll
ask
the
landmarks
question,
which
was
just
around
capacity
right
to
address
the
backlog.
We've
got
some
responses
there,
but
we'd
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
what
we
can
do
to
support
the
commission's
work
here
and
then
also
a
lot
of
questions
on
how
we
get
the
landmarks
commission
involved
in
the
development
process.
Earlier,
I
feel
like
oftentimes
roseanne,
and
you
and
your
incredible
team
are
brought
in
really
late
and
doing
the
best
you
can.
O
But
how
do
we
do
a
better
job
of
just
incorporating
you
and
your
team
and
thank
you
for
the
work
you're
doing.
F
I'll
give
a
piece
of
the
answer
and
then
I'll
hand
it
over
to
to
rosanna
answer
the
wider
piece,
which
is
you
know
we
roseanne
and
I
met.
Last
week
we
talked
pretty
extensively
about
this
backlog
and
and
sort
of
how
it
it
hamstrings
the
commission
from
being
able
to
all
of
it
which,
having
that
hanging
over
your
head.
Just
it's
it's
it's
overwhelming.
F
So
it
has
been
my
assumption
a
little
bit
that
some
of
that
I
would
see
where
we
can
spend
some
of
that
up
within
city
hall,
but
also
doing
some
outside
fundraising,
to
sort
of
say
to
people
we're
not
asking
you
for
money
forever.
But
we
are
asking
you
for
some
resources
to
move
through
this
particular
piece,
and
I
think
also
you
know.
F
I
we've
seen
strong
support
within
the
council,
but
want
to
mention
that
there's
part
of
our
budget
is
an
additional
staff
person
for
the
landmarks
commission,
which
will
make
a
big
difference
in
terms
of
not
preventing
the
backlog
from
continuing
into
the
future.
F
We
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
article
85
and
the
need
to
strengthen
that,
because
sometimes
the
commission
gets
involved
can
say
things,
but
we
don't
always
have
the
teeth
needed
to
stop
the
demolition
of
items,
and
we
really
need
to
give
the
landmarks
commission
more
regulatory
authority
to
support
the
work,
because
it's
not
enough
to
be
able
to
identify
if
we
don't
give
them
the
tools
at
their
disposal
to
do
something
about
it.
So
I
I
can
carl
and
I
have
been
having
that
conversation
roseanne
and
I
have
had
a
conversation.
F
My
understanding
is
that
we
are
in
a
better
position
for
article
85
to
be
strengthened
than
we
have
been
in
a
very
quite
a
long
time,
and
it
is
my
hope
that
we
could
get
that
across
the
finish
line
this
year,
so
that
landmarks
has
the
right
tools
at
their
disposal
to
do
their
job.
Well,
roseanne.
Is
there
anything
that
you
wanted
to
add
in
terms
of
the
questions
from
council
campbell.
P
Thanks
chief,
my
apologies
for
not
having
my
my
video
on,
I
can't
someone
turned
it
off
and
I
can't
figure
it
out,
but
counselor
campbell.
I
appreciate
your
your
question
about
trying
to
get
us
involved
early
on
in
the
process,
and
this
is
something
that
we're
we're
trying
to
figure
out
if
there's
a
a
a
formal
way
to
do
that
or
using
informal
ways
as
well.
P
I
I
think
that
we've
managed
to
get
people
to
the
point
where
they
recognize
that
we
exist
and
that
we
have
some
important
work
to
do
as
part
of
development
in
boston
we've.
We
have
been
kind
of
an
after
thought
for
a
while,
and
I
think
it
might
be
due
to
the
sometimes
mysterious
ways
that
we
work.
Historic
preservation
is
not
something
that
everyone
is
is
really
familiar
with
with.
P
So
I
am
looking
forward
to
getting
us
more
involved
and
earlier
in
the
development
process
as
well,
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
make
some
improvements
to
the
article
85
process
and
get
rid
of
that
backlog.
That's
that's
a
big
priority
for
us,
so
thank
you.
O
B
The
thing
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
add
in
in
the
past
year,
or
so,
even
though
it's
not
quite
hasn't,
become
really
visible.
Yet
the
historic
preservation
team,
roseanne
and
her
team
have
made
some
important
steps
in
trying
and
starting
to
address
that
backlog.
B
O
Thank
you
all.
I
appreciate
it
and
here
to
continue
to
support,
and
I
see
the
gavel
so
I
will
pass
on
my
next
colleague
thank
you,
council
bach,.
A
Great
thank
you
so
much
counselor
campbell
next
up,
counselor,
flaherty
and
then
councillor
edwards,
counselor
flaherty.
Thank.
Q
You,
madam
chair
I'll,
be
brief.
I'm
going
to
start
with
boston,
landmarks,
commission
and
just
be
really
unequivocal.
I
do
not
see
a
situation
where
I
could
support
this
budget
unless
and
until
additional
funding
is
brought
to
bear
to
support
for
additional
staffing.
We've
got
so
much
development
going
on
across
the
city
and
oftentimes
residents
direct,
the
butters
and
commun
concerned.
Q
Community
residents
are
reaching
out
once
they
find
out
that
a
parcel
of
building
in
their
neighborhood
has
been
bought
or
is
in
the
process
of
being
renovated
or
converted
and
there's
landmark
status
to
it.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
putting
community
residents
on
par
with
developers
as
it
pertains
to
and
particularly
speculators.
So
time
has
come
for
for
the
landmarks
commission
to
be
adequately
funded
and
staffed
so
that
they
could
work
with
community
in.
Q
Inning,
as
opposed
to
getting
involved
in
this
in
the
late
innings,
when
in
many
instances,
it's
just
too
late
to
work
and
support
these
beautiful
landmarks.
So
that's
my
opine
for
the
moment
on
landmarks
want
to
touch
base
briefly
with
the
environment
folks.
Obviously,
the
community
preservation
act,
which
I
chair,
the
fund,
the
committee
which
I
shared.
It's
funded
an
acquisition
open
space
program
this
past
year
at
one
million.
Q
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
opportunities
for
environment
and
community
and
conservation
to
work
together
to
identify
parcels
that
may
be
eligible
for
that
program
and
reach
out
to
the
respective
community
organizations
to
to
file
those.
I
want
to
also
commend
the
work.
That's
been
done,
both
council,
o'malley
and
council
wu
on
the
wetlands
ordinance
that
the
council
passed
as
former
chair
of
government
ops.
We
worked
very
closely
with
commissioner
specter
in
his
team
and
former
chief
cook.
The
vpda
plan
is
lead
sponsors.
Q
Obviously,
council
would
o'malley
a
variety
of
environmental
advocacy
groups,
but
I'm
not
quite
sure
whether
or
not
this
budget
properly
funds
the
concom
to
ensure
that
we
can
adequately
enforce
this
ordinance
and
also
kudos
to
amelia
crow.
Two.
She
was
great,
very
informative
and
worked
alongside
myself
and
the
lead
sponsors
to
make
sure
that
that
wetlands
ordinance
became
a
reality.
But
again
I
don't
see
or
feel
that
it's
properly
funded
in
this
budget
and
then
talking
about
resiliency
climate
resiliency.
Q
There
was
some
discussion,
maybe
a
levee
or
some
break
water
out
around
our
harbor
islands
and
just
want
to
know
where
that
stands.
Obviously,
climate
resiliency
is
at
the
forefront
a
major
issue
very
much
that
we
saw
in
new
york
or
houston
in
the
past
would
absolutely
our
city-
and
it
may
not
be
a
matter
of
if
more
so
when
and
taking
the
steps.
Q
Now,
whether
it's
through
some
type
of
breakwater
and
or
levy
out
at
our
ireland
status,
will
protect
our
city
tremendously
from
from
from
death
and
devastation.
So
that's
it
for
me,
climate
resiliency,
supporting
our
wetlands
ordinance
in
the
budget
and
obviously
supporting
our
our
landmarks
commission.
Q
As
well
as
partnering
with
community-based
organizations
to
take
advantage
of
our
community
preservation
act
and
also
to
the
new
chief
as
the
chair
of
the
council's
new
committee
on
recovery
funds,
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
your
team
would
hope
that
we
can
get
to
the
table
sooner
rather
later
to
discuss
those
very
precious
funds
that
will
be
coming
our
way
and
how
and
where
they're
going
to
be
used
and
work
with
our
colleagues
on
the
council
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
in
their
community,
so
that
when
that
process
starts,
it
can
be
seamless
and
we
can
get
those
federal
funds
funds
out
to
to
folks
into
communities
as
quickly
as
possible.
Q
F
Okay,
I
heard
a
series
of
questions
in
there
I'll
try
to
see
if
we
can
address
it
on
the
landmark
side.
We
are
really
excited
that
this
budget
does
put
introduce
an
additional
staff
person
for
landmarks,
not
saying
that
that
is
adequate
for
what
we
may
fully
need,
but
we
are
excited
about
that
additional
resource.
On
the
question
of
the
wetlands
ordinance,
I
will
direct
that
to
commissioner
specter.
In
terms
of
do
we
have
the
resources
we
need
to
en
enforce
that
ordinance,
as
as
we
understand
it,.
B
Yes,
thank
you
counselor
yeah.
I
I
think
we
do
the
crucial
step
that
we're
going
through
right
now
is
developing
the
supporting
regulations
for
that
ordinance.
We
divided
the
development
of
regulations
into
three
phases.
We
completed
phase
one
last
summer,
which
is
the
regulatory
administrative
regulations
that
instruct
applicants
how
to
you
know,
get
permission
and
the
other
conditions
and
that
they
need
under
the
ordinance.
So
that's
all
in
place
right
now.
B
Actually,
this
wednesday,
we
are
going
to
release
for
public
comment
phase
two
of
the
regulations
and
those
are
going
to
be
performance
standards
for
new
resource
areas
that
were
included
in
the
ordinance
that
the
council
passed
but
did
not
have
performance
standards
at
the
state
level
and
the
third
part
will
be
developing
regulations
and
guide
guidelines
around
extended
air
exterior,
extended
areas
of
jurisdiction
due
to
sea
level
rise
and
also
around
the
issues
around
environmental
justice
which
again
we're
included
in
the
ordinance.
B
So
our
regulatory
process
is
moving
forward.
Phase
three
has
just
started,
so
that's
getting
started
too
and
obviously
I
would
never
turn
down
more
resources,
but
we
have
a
terrific
staff
and-
and
I
think
once
the
the
regulatory
phases
are
through
and
we're
we
we're
using
a
lot
of
contract
support
to
get
that
done.
F
I
see
the
gathering,
so
what
I
will
just
say
is
counselor
flaherty.
We
would
love
to
talk
to
you
more
about
cpa
and
that's
in
that
specifically
and
a
potential
levy.
I'm
not
sure
the
levy
is
something
that
we
could
do,
but
we'd
be
interested
in
engaging
in
the
conversation
around
it.
We'll
we'll
follow
up
on
those
things.
As
the
gavel
comes
down.
B
Council
block,
if
I
maybe
just
very
quickly
say
around
the
levy
a
couple:
a
few
years
ago,
we
did
work
with
umass
boston,
to
look
at
the
feasibility
and
the
practice,
practicality
and
the
effectiveness
of
some
sort
of
harbor
barrier.
The
analysis
showed
then
that
at
least
at
the
time
it
did
not.
N
B
At
the
levels
of
sea
level
rise
that
we
expected
that
it
did
not
make
sense
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
that
the
assured
based
protections
that
we're
developing
under
the
climate
ready
boston
program
do
make
sense.
Obviously
we're
happy
to
discuss
that
if
new
available
of
new
data
become
available,
but
right
now
that
kind
of
harbor-wide
protection
across
the
islands
or
in
another
way
does
not
make
sense
to
us
and.
F
It
would
not
make
for
good
relationships
with
winthrop
and
quincy,
but
we
can
talk
about
that
if
you'd
like
to
go
integrate
it
up
later.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
flaherty
next
steps,
counselor
edwards
and
then
I'll
ask
my
questions.
Counselor
edwards.
R
Hi
so
again,
I'll
echo
everyone's
congrats
to
the
new
chief
hit
the
ground
running.
So
I
just
wanted
to
go
right
into
the
landmarks
commission,
specifically
article
85,
which
I
think
is
the
real
issue.
R
I
think
you
can
add
as
many
people
as
you
want
to
the
landmarks
commission,
the
process
is
flawed,
so
I
am
curious
when
or
what
proposals
you
have
changed
that
process
again,
you
can
add
a
lot
of
people,
but
the
developers
move
faster
than
the
process
does,
and
the
demolition
delay
is
where
the
issue
or
the
bottleneck
is
happening,
and
so
by
the
time
the
landmarks
can
be
in
a
position
to
make
a
decision
about.
Excuse
me
about
demolition
or
delay
the
building's
gone.
R
So
I
I
think
that
that's
a
concern
for
me,
so
the
process
is
what
I'd
like
for
you
guys
to
commit
to
fixing
not
adding
more
people
or
adding
more
money.
You
need
to
move
faster
and
you
and
you
need
a
process
that
actually
is
considering
the
the
analysis
part
I'm
not
interested
in
in
having
a
process
that
is
purposely
trying
to
delay
development,
I'm
interested
in
a
thorough
one.
That
actually
happens
before
building
is
gone.
R
So
that's
number
one
number
two
speaking
of
like
having
of
having
mismatched
processor
concerns
and-
and
maybe
this
is
more-
I
think
this
is
actually
more
for
the
bpda
actually
and
looking
at
development
of
the
waterfront
so
I'll
leave
that
for
because
it's
mostly
in
the
charlestown
navy
yard.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
administration,
the
mayor
and
the
chief
joining
the
fight
for
the
substation
really
do
appreciate
that
the
comments
were
there's.
This
is
the
beginning.
F
So
I
will
direct
the
article
85
question
to
commissioner
specter
and
then
I'll
I'll
jump
it
on
the
east,
boston,
wonderful.
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
council.
So
no
argument
about
the
limitations
of
article
85
and
for
just
that
reason
we
have
formed
an
internal
working
group
with
the
bpda
with
inspectional
services,
the
department
of
neighborhood
development
and
the
department
of
neighborhood
services
to
determine
what
kind
of
revisions
to
article
85
we
can
propose.
B
We
think
that's
going
to
move
very
quickly
because
there
is
a
it
seems
that
we
have
to
finally
develop
the
consensus
that
we
need
to
do
the
sort
of
improvements
that
you
suggest.
I
I
can't
give
you
a
specific
timeline.
It
is
a
zoning
issue,
so
it
is
under
the
purview
of
the
bpda.
B
But
again
we
we
have
a
working
group
that
has
come
together
under
the
leadership
of
the
bpda
with
the
membership
I
mentioned,
and
I'm
very
hopeful
that
you
know
later
this
year
we
will
have
a
proposal
to
for
the
public
to
consider-
and
I
hope,
move
forward.
F
Okay,
so
two
next
steps
I
can
speak
of
specifically
in
terms
of
the
substation
we
do
have
a
meeting
this
week.
I
believe
it's
actually,
tomorrow
with
the
ag's
office,
to
further
explore
what
possibilities
still
exist
at
the
state
level
to
intervene
on
behalf
of
the
substation,
particularly
using
the
environmental
justice
language
that
was
recently
passed,
and
that
seems
to
have
made
a
difference
in
the
springfield
case.
F
A
little
different.
But
but
again,
this
question
of
that
is
are
those
similar
mechanisms
available
to
us
and
so
that
that
is
the
main
conversation
I
am
also
trying
to
explore-
and
this
is
I'm
waiting
to
hear
from
from
legal
and
igr
sort
of
what
is
our
ability
to
have
a
conversation
with
dep
like?
Is
there
any
additional
information
that
they
might
need
to
they?
They
are
not
political
appointees,
their
career
civil
servants,
and
so
there
there
is
the
possibility
that
they
would
evaluate
potentially
differently
than
administration.
F
You
know
sort
of
appointed
folks
and
so
we're
trying
to
have
an
understanding
if
there
is
any
lever
there
for
us
to
to
offer
additional
information.
The
the
mayor
does
continue
to
push
on
this
question
about
of
whether
or
not
eversource,
whether
or
not
there
is
still
a
need,
but
I
think
the
challenge
for
us
is
the
efsb
is
the
group
that
should
have
rejected
that
data
and
they
did
not.
F
So
I'm
not
sure
that
that
that
question
can
completely
change
the
process,
though
it
is,
one
people
have
been
asking
for
quite
a
while.
So
those
are
the
two
steps
that
we
are
aware
of
in
terms
of
the
ag's
office
and
the
dep
that
we
are
both
either
acting
on
or
exploring
as
next
steps.
In
that
conversation,.
R
Just
going
back
to
thank
you,
thank
you
very
much
and
that's
exciting.
I
think
the
ag
that
would
yes,
we,
you
know,
I
know
we're
all
in
solidarity
and
very
proud
of
springfield
and
what
they
were
able
to
accomplish.
So
if
there
is
an
another
way,
thank
you
for
that.
With
regards
to
the
landmarks
commission,
specifically
in
my
district,
I'm
curious
about
updates
around
the
nazaro
center.
I
know
we
submitted.
We
were
before
the
commission.
We
were,
I
think,
approved
for
it
or
to
continue
in
that
process
for
the
net.
R
It
was
definitely
pre-pandemic.
That's
how
I
measure
my
life
now
and
so
what's
going
on
with
the
specifically
the
nasara
center
and
it's
it's
process
to
get
landmarked,
we
had
we're
so
excited
about
that
community
came
together.
We
thought
we
came
way
way
way
up
the
up
the
you
know
upstream,
to
get
this
done,
and
so
here
we
are,
and
so.
F
P
Sure,
thanks
chief
council
edwards,
we
did
we
were
excited
about
the
petition
being
accepted
for
the
zara
center
and
it
has
been
a
while
when,
when
we
hear
the
word
backlog,
that
means
all
kinds
of
very
worthy
historic
resources
are
waiting
for
moving
along
in
the
process
to
be
landmarked,
and
this
is
what
we
will
be
working
on
to
address
very
quickly.
P
Some
of
these,
pending
landmarks
have
been
pending
for
decades,
so
we
need
to
figure
out
the
equitable
process
for
making
sure
we
prioritize
without
leaving
anything
unlooked
at
so
to
speak
and
unexamined.
But
yes,
we
are.
We
are
always
every
day
aware
of
all
the
bending
landmarks
that
still
await
designation.
P
So
the
this
is
the
the
issue
right.
We
will
have
pending
landmarks
and
they're
in
chronological
order.
Obviously
we
have
all
of
them
from
the
beginning
of
our
time
in
the
70s,
but
then
there
will
be
the
the
prioritization
changes
every
year,
sometimes
every
month
as
buildings
come
up
that
are
threatened
with
demolition.
R
If
I,
if
I
may,
because
I
see
the
gavel,
make
a
suggestion-
I
see
the
gavel,
so
I
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off,
but
just
for
a
policy.
This
is
a
city
building
and
so
their
their
likelihood
of
it
being
developed
or
demolished
is
very
little.
So
I'm
not
saying
we
should
prioritize
our
own
buildings
and
community
centers,
but
we
should,
if
there's
a
possibility
to
move
them
along
in
landmarks,
because
I
think
that
would
just
shrink
the
haystack
and
actually
get
because
it's
already
a
public
amenity.
R
F
To
move
these,
these
pending
applications
by
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
working
on
a
plan
for
how
we
get
through
the
backlog.
We
may
not
finish
every
single
one
by
the
end
of
the
year,
but
we
are
trying
to
make
a
personal,
significant
dent
over
the
next
eight
months.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
edwards,
yes
and
I'll
move
into
my
questions
now
and
set
a
timer
on
myself,
because
I
know
I
have
many
yeah.
I
think
to
that
point.
A
Well,
I
agree
with
counselor
edwards
tremendously
that
we
need
to
fix
article
85,
that's
a
fundamental
process
issue
and
frankly,
if
you
all
don't
introduce
something
this
year,
I
will
but
I
would
be
happy
to
be
beaten
to
it
by
a
interagency
working
group,
but
I
also
think
that
there
are
aspects
of
our
current
situation
that
can
be
addressed
by
more
resources
and
the
backlog
is
right
up
at
the
top
of
that
list
and-
and
I
will
say
like
I'm-
very
encouraged,
you
know
when
we
were
in
this
hearing
a
year
ago.
A
We
did
the
math
and
finish
and
finishing
the
landmarks
backlog
at
the
pace
at
which
we
had
been
moving
was
going
to
take
us
99
years.
So
just
the
work
in
the
last
year
has
sped
up
that
rate
and
obviously,
if
you
know
we
can
really
push
for
a
plan
to
get
to
clear
it
out
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
think
that
would
be
transformational
and
I
think
to
your
point
chief.
A
It
would
really
it
would
just
free
up
resources
and
attention
for
other,
more
proactive
things
because
what's
become
very
clear
in
our
equity
oriented
conversations.
Is
that,
like
you
know,
if
you
don't,
if
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
resources
to
proactively,
you
know,
commission
study
reports
and
get
your
thing
protected,
then
you're,
it's
always
going
to
be
too
little
too
late
to
save.
You
know
a
lot
of
our
really
beloved
and
historical
resources
in
a
bunch
of
our
communities,
especially
our
immigrant
communities,
our
communities
of
color.
A
So
you
know,
I
think,
we've
got
it.
We've
got
to
shift
the
dynamic
there
and
getting
rid
of
the
backlog's
an
important
piece.
Obviously
getting
some
of
these
new
districts
up
and
running
is
an
important
piece,
and
so
I'm
really
excited
about
the
additional
hire
and
just
definitely
want
to
celebrate
that
and
also
celebrate.
The
staff
increases,
which
you
know
grade
changes
is
not
sexy,
but
it's
a
huge
part
of
retaining
talent
and
for
a
long
time
what
talent
we've
been
able
to
hold
in
the
historic
preservation
world.
A
In
the
city
has
typically
gone
to
the
bpda
because
of
their
more
competitive
salary
structure,
and
so
it's
it's
great
to
keep
some
of
it.
Actually,
you
know
over
on
the
landmark
side
of
the
house.
A
I
do
think
that,
while
it's
great
to
have
that
additional
person
that
additional
person
can't
be
the
solution
to
the
backlog
and
to
the
other
things,
because
we're
creating
new
capacity
for
that
person
to
serve-
and
I
feel
like
our
existing
folks,
you
know
with
their
commissions-
are
already
over
taxed
and
so
definitely
thank
you
agree
with.
A
Flaherty,
there's
still
room
for
more
staff
capacity
here
and
yeah
and
would
like
to
would
like
us
to
talk
about
that.
I'd
also
on
the
proactive
side-
and
this
is
a
question
I
had
in
my
thing,
but
maybe
if
you
guys
could
address
it
a
little
bit,
I
mean
it
feels
to
me
like
it.
It
is
time
to
be
talking
about
a
citywide
historical
survey.
This
came
up
a
bit
last
year.
It's
come
up
as
a
thing.
Could
we
do
it
with
administrative
funds
in
the
community
preservation
act
side?
A
Money
and
the
parcel
acquisition
like
stuff
on
the
environment
and
house
and
housing
side
like
a
kind
of
big
initiative,
but
that
seems
like
a
really
important
piece
of
the
equity
thing
is
to
proactively
be
looking
at,
what's
valuable
in
our
neighborhoods
and
not
waiting
for
the
moment
that
a
building
is
threatened
or
there's
a
you
know,
a
bunch
of
folks
who
are
lucky
to
be
deep,
pocketed
who
support
it.
You
know
I
just
so.
I.
A
F
Yeah,
so
I
mean
I,
I
have
had
a
you
know,
roseanne
and
I
sat
down,
and
one
of
I
do
think
a
city-wide
survey
would
be
amazing.
I
think
where
there
are
a
couple
of
questions
are
one
doing
the
survey.
If
we
haven't
cleared
the
backlog
feels
like
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse,
and
then
I
do
think
that
we
may
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
additional
resources
to
really
be
able
to
sustain
that,
and
I
think
the
other
piece
you
know.
F
That
shows
people
what
could
be
possible?
Were
we
to
do
a
larger
survey?
Where
are
there
places
of
significance,
particularly
to
our
indigenous
population,
our
communities
of
color
that
haven't
been
highlighted
that
we
could
do
some
focus
on
in
the
next
year,
while
not
taking
on
something
that
huge
when
we
still
haven't
like
gotten
all
the
resources
and
support?
That's
a
saying
we
are,
and
so
I
think
that
the
staff
is
great
and
and
and
works
hard.
F
I
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
are
asking
for
that
level
of
work,
that
they
have
the
resources
and
support
and
don't
feel
still
underwater
to
launch
that,
so
I
I
don't
think
it's
it
at
all
is
a
no.
F
I
think
that
it,
but
I
do
think
that
there
are
people
have
raised
resource
questions
and
I'm
not
sure
we
are
net
yet
at
the
level
of
resources
that
would
make
that
fully
feasible
and
then
to
identify
them
and
not
be
able
to
move
them
to
the
process
because
of
a
backlog
feels
again,
not
the
greatest.
So
I
think
what
we'd
love
to
do.
I
mean
I'm
glad
that
there's
a
lot
of
excitement.
Why
don't
we
spend
some
time?
We?
F
We
got
a
little
bit
of
time
to
talk
about
work
planning
and
it
might
make
sense
for
us
to
really
move
into
that
work.
Planning
process
get
clear
about
what
we're
going
to
do,
including
this,
the
bringing
on
of
a
new
staff
person
and
come
back
to
the
the
council
sort
of
to
figure
out
what
the
right
timeline
is
for
that.
But
I
I
do
think,
there's
an
appetite.
It's
just
a
question
of
sequencing
and
resources.
A
Yeah,
no
it's
and
it's
good
to,
and
I
think
that's
real.
I
think
we've
got
to
get
out
from
being
underwater
in
order
to
make
that
that
leap
forward.
I
just
think
that
that
it
all
needs
to
be
part
of
a
plan
where
that's
where
we're
going
right.
A
That,
on
the
environment,
side,
we've
got
a
bunch
of
strategies
that
are,
you
know
that
we
did
in
that
2019
action
plan
to
sort
of
tell
us.
Okay,
these
are
the
things
we
need
to
be
doing
in
order
to
get
to
these
ultimate
goals
right
around
around
our
carbon
goals,
but
we
have
to
the
the
trick
is:
does
it
all
add
up
to
actually
hitting
those
goals
right
and
for
me?
A
Similarly,
it's
like
a
historic
preservation
plan
where
we,
like
a
plan
for
the
department
where
we
do
get
back
from
being
underwater
is
great,
but
it's
got
to
be
sort
of
with
the
momentum
of
trying
to
get
to
that
new
standard
and
I
think,
a
huge
piece
that
is
the
article
85
fix,
because,
as
long
as
you
know,
the
perception
is
well.
A
Let's
you
know,
I
just
think
like
there's
a
perception
that
resources
are
starved
on
the
historic
preservation
side,
because
historic
preservation
gets
in
the
way
of
development
right
and
that
there's
a
kind
of
like
moneyed
interest
dynamic
at
the
table.
I
think
that
if
we
moved
historic
preservation
much
earlier
in
the
process,
we
would
find
more
opportunities
for
adapter
for
use.
I
think
that
we
could
do
a
lot
and
it's
a
conversation
for
another
day
to
recognize
the
way
in
which
our
historic
resources
drive
like
drive.
A
By
changing
the
conversation,
but
yeah
would
would
love,
would
love
us
to
be
working
together
with
a
kind
of
plan.
That's
thinking
at
that
scale,
and
that
is.
A
Further
resources
in
this
year
to
you
know
to
clear
the
backlog
and
make
that
shift
and
commit
to
a
sort
of
systems,
level,
plan
and
I'll
just
say,
I
think,
also
on
archaeology.
It
was
referenced
in
the
document,
so
I
won't
dig
into
it,
but
like
the
grants.
A
B
A
Be
able
to
do
because
of
our
staffing
limitations,
it's
just
like
that
also
feels
like
somewhere.
We
need
to
go
bigger.
F
Yeah
and
I
and
I
I
I
think
we
welcome
the
the
conversation,
I
think
again,
it's
just
a
question
of
sequencing,
but
I
do
think
roseanne
and
I
had
a
conversation
about
what
what
down
payment
could
we
put
on
that
this
year?
And
I
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
term
because
we
haven't
even
talked
to
the
staff
fully
yet
to
sort
of
see
what
people
believe
and
and
and
and
possibly
are
there
opportunities
to
bring
together
landmarks
and
environment
and
open
space
like?
Are
there
places
for
synergy
across
the
cabinet?
F
That
brings
some
resources
to
bear
and
no
one
group
is
holding
that
on
their
own,
but
are
there
are
there
places
to?
Because
some
of
our
historic
landmarks
are
also
climate
vulnerable
and
also
dealing
with
issues
of
gentrification
other
things?
So
I
think
more
to
come.
I
don't
want
to
jump,
jump
the
gun
we,
but
we
have
had
that
conversation
and
appreciate
the
council's
focus
on
the
making
sure
that
the
resources
are
there
to
do
the
work.
F
Well,
I
think
the
big
lift
will
be
the
backlog,
and
so
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
some
focus
there,
just
so
that
we
can
move
it
through.
But
yes,
a
more
expansive
vision
and
bringing
a
more
expensive
vision
that
has
the
possibility,
also
to
bring
in
more
resources,
is
clearly
clearly
in
the
conversation
and
on
the
table.
H
A
A
Second
round
now
for
counselors
counselors,
who
I
still
see
here-
it'll
be
braden
mejia,
o'malley
edwards,
and
then
I
do
have
some
long-awaiting
members
of
the
public
who
are
going
to
testify.
So
I
promise
you
that
we
will
get
to
you
after
that
second
round,
regardless
of
whether
counselors
have
any
further
questions
so
counselor
at
brayden.
You
have
the
floor.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
chief
hammond.
I
am
in
the
works
so
and
we're
working
on
getting
a
few,
a
couple
of
representatives
from
the
community
advisory
board
on
heat
island
effect
and
all
who
have
lived
experience
and
also
brighton,
so
watch
that
space.
I
I
just
want
to
echo
so
much
of
what
our
colleagues
are
saying
about
the
importance
of
landmarks.
M
I
put
my
name
on
that
list
of
people
who
are
strongly
advocating
for
a
robust
landmarks
commission
and
a
serious
reworking
of
the
article
85
extension
of
the
notification
period
or
the
the
demolition
delay
process.
We
were
losing
so
much
of
a
valuable
historic
infrastructure
in
in
this
mad
rush
to
develop
everything
in
boston
and
very
often
the
voices
of
the
little
people
get
left
behind.
M
Really
I
I
think
we've
covered.
My
colleagues
have
asked
many
of
the
questions
I
was
going
to
ask.
M
A
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
braden
councillor
mejia.
J
Yes,
so
in
regards
to
landmarks,
I'm
just
curious
what
sorry?
What
is
the
breakdown
for
landmarks
per
neighborhood,
and
how
does
the
landmarks
commission
advocate
on
behalf
of
spaces
that
have
extreme
cultural
significance
in
our
communities,
particularly
to
counselor
box
point
if
the
community
doesn't
have
deep
pockets?
F
Let
roseanne
answer
that
question,
but
I
do
want
to
note
that
that
is
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
talking
about
this
need
for
a
citywide
survey,
because,
for
instance,
so
just
as
some
folks,
it's
worth
noting
may
is
national
historic
preservation
month
and
I've
got
an
opportunity
to
go
to
a
couple
of
the
webinars
hosted
by
the
landmarks
commission.
F
I
did
not
know
how
many
of
our
historic
homes,
for
instance,
were
in
dorchester,
but
now
I'm
a
little
interested
and
now
I'm
kind
of
like.
Where
do
I?
What
do
I
need
to
go,
do
and
look
at
so
we
we
are
long
overdue
for
an
opportunity
to
really
update
that
information
in
a
more
complete
way.
I
think,
as
I
was
saying,
we're
trying
to
find
the
balance
between
moving
through
the
backlog,
onboarding
new
staff.
There
is
a
new
historic
district
process.
F
That's
been
moving
forward
in
roxbury,
and
so
roseanne
can
also
talk
about
this.
Not
all
of
the
districts
starting
out
were
under
our
control
exactly
list,
so
the
state
also
plays
a
role
in
and
how
it's
been
set
up.
But
roseanne
did
you
want
to
add
more
context.
P
Sure
counselor
maya,
the
highland
park
district
is
actually
part
of
the
backlog
it's
been
pending
for
quite
a
while.
So
the
fact
that
we
have
now
been
able
to
start
the
the
next
steps
in
the
process
by
appointing
a
steering
committee
and
being
able
to
hire
part-time
staff
to
support
the
creation
of
a
historic
district
in
highland
park
will
help.
You
know,
reduce
the
number
of
pending
districts
through
the
enthusiasm
and
support
of
neighborhood
residents
there.
P
J
Thank
you
for
that.
I'm
also
curious.
You
know
we
participate
in
a
lot
of
civic
association
meetings.
J
I
can
just
remember
some
of
our
meetings
that
with
meeting
house
meeting
household,
I
believe
it
is,
and
there
was
some
discussions
about
a
piece
of
land
that
many
of
the
residents
believe
should
have
been
deemed
a
landmark
as
a
way
to
preserve
it
and
to
also
stop
development.
So
just
wanted
to
just
put
you
all
on
notice
that
I
will
be
paying
attention
to
a
lot
of
those
issues,
specifically
in
neighborhoods
like
dorchester
roxbury
mattapan,
that
oftentimes
go
unseen
and
under
utilized.
F
Yeah-
and
I
I
think
what
you're
raising
is
something
that
we're
very
clear
about
that
there
there
are
racial
and
class
inequities
in
how
landmarks
marks
are
designated.
Who
even
has
the
information
to
know
how
to
move
through
the
process.
I
think
that
is
definitely
a
concern.
I
think
we
had
a
really
great
conversation
about.
You
know
the
general
focus
on
equity
in
our
office
and
and
the
putting
equity
at
the
center
of
what
all
of
us
are
doing.
F
I
think
making
sure
that
if
we
get
people
excited
to
apply
that
there
that
their
applications,
don't
wait
so
long
is,
is
an
important
pre-step,
because
we
don't
want
to
drum
up
excitement
and
then
have
people
be
like.
So
when
do
we
hear
back
and
we're
like
in
2040
right?
F
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
good
internal
process
to
to
move
through
the
backlog
and
and
really
think
about
how
do
we
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
creep
up
again,
because
if
you
get
everyone
excited
and
then
you
can't
process
the
applications
that
will
sort
of
dim
that
excitement.
F
So
so
I
think
what
you're
raising
and
the
questions
of
equity
and
which
neighborhoods
and
which
people
know
they
are
very
real,
and
I
think
the
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
landmarks
has
what
it
needs
to
be
able
to
be
more
proactive
to
be
able
to
get
out
there
more.
And
that
means
you
know
having
some
more
resources
and
and
a
process
to
move
through
that
that
backlog.
So
we
can
bring
more
folks
in.
J
And
before
the
gaba
goals,
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that,
as
we
start
thinking
about
this
process,
I
think
that
the
community
will
benefit
from
a
sort
of
like
a
psa
campaign
to
educate
people
about
what
is
landmarks,
how
it
works
just
because
even
even
the
whole
conversation,
it's
I
see
it.
J
Oftentimes
is
a
very
privileged
one
and
not
everyone
is
working
with
the
same
terminology
or
the
same
understanding,
and
I
think
that,
as
we
continue
to
roll
this
out,
I'm
censoring
it
in
a
way
that
folks
can
feel
engaged
by
having
information.
J
That's
accessible
to
them
to
understand
would
be
part
of
that
planning
process,
and
then
I
also
think
getting
outside
of
zoom
and
city
hall
and
going
directly
into
some
of
these
communities
and
and
not
just
having
the
usual
suspects
that
show
up
like
civic
association
and
formal
groups
are
really
great.
But
then
there
are
a
lot
of
abutters
in
the
neighborhood
who
aren't
participating
in
the
civic
association
groups
that
we
should
find
ways
to
engage
them
and
before
counselor
bach
gives
me
the
gavel
or
puts
me
on
mute.
J
I
guess
that's
all
for
me
and
thank
you
so
very
much
for
all
your
hard
work
and
looking
forward
to
partnering
with
you
all
on
in
this
work.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
councillor
mejia
next
up
is
councillor
o'malley
and
then
councillor
edwards,
president
o'malley.
I
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
thank
you
to
you
and
council
mehian,
council,
flaherty
and
others
bringing
up
the
historic
preservation
landmarks.
It's
obviously
a
passion
of
mine
as
well,
but
I
want
to
bring
it
back
a
little
bit
to
some
more
environment
questions.
While
I
have
you
before
we
get
to
public
testimony.
I
So
chief,
I
I
had
asked
about
sort
of
beardo
2.0
and
in
your
response
you
talked
about
well,
there
are
obviously
some
significant
obstacles.
I'm
paraphrasing
to
collecting
beardo
data.
You
were
able
to
obtain
reports
for
over
80
of
the
covered
space
and
this
year,
you're
ahead
of
last
year's
pace.
Helped
you
around
the
90
mark
again.
So
bravo
well
done
with
everything
you
know,
challenges
of
the
pandemic
and
then
the
last
sentence
is-
and
this
is
what
I
want
to
unpack
a
little
bit.
I
For
this
reason,
climate
action
plan
calls
for
the
development
of
a
building
performance
standard.
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
where
are
we
in
sort
of
beardo
2.0?
I
know
I
talked
about
this
with
chief
cook
and
and
you
and
I
briefly
spoke
about
it
on
the
phone,
but
we
knew
when
you
know
we,
we
passed
beardo
with
mayor
menino
back
in
2013.
I
I
believe
it
was
carl
right
before
mayor,
menino
left
office.
You
know
we
knew
and
it
was
an
ambitious
goal
and
and
now
the
the
importance
of
our
existing
building
stocks
and
getting
to
a
blueprint
on
retrofits
and
other
things
has
never
been
more
pertinent
because
we're
getting
closer
and
closer
to
2030..
I
So
I
guess,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
sort
of
without
just
general,
specifics,
more
more
general,
less
generally
more
specifics
on
sort
of
how
you
see,
beardo,
chief
white,
hammond
and
and
how
we
can
be
helpful
to
getting
this
getting
this
done.
F
L
Sure,
thank
you
chief.
Thank
you,
counselor.
So
counselor
happy
happy
to
provide
you
a
lot
of
this
information
offline
and
go
into
much
detail.
We
we've
spent
the
last
year.
I
think,
as
you
know,
going
through
a
very,
very
complete.
We
think
community
process
we've
held
a
technical
advisory
group,
a
resident
advisory
group.
A
numerous
stakeholder
meetings,
outreach
broad
community
outreach,
engagement
opportunities.
All
of
those
materials
are
available
online,
including
those
technical
reports.
L
We've
proposed
a
a
draft
policy
and
I
think
the
best
summary
out
there
is
our
last
open
house
materials
that
goes
through
each
of
the
elements.
What
we've
learned
through
birdo
the
first
round
what's
working
and
we
absolutely
want
to
keep
in
terms
of
reporting
and
disclosure
and
some
of
those
critical
metrics
and
then
where
we
need
to
adapt
and
enhance
so
moving,
very
specifically
to
emissions
targets
for
large
buildings,
lowering
the
threshold
other
things
as
we've
described.
So
if
you
have
specific
questions
on
any
of
those
elements
very
happy
to
go
in,
I.
I
Guess
I
guess
I'll
contradict
my
own
question
and
ask
for
the
generally
a
well
done.
I
think
that's
successful
and
in
the
positive
and
important
I
guess
what
is
the
process?
Any
any
beardo
itself
was
an
ordinance
that
was
submitted
to
actually
the
government
operations
committee,
which
I
chaired
during
that
time.
So
when
will
the
administration
be
sending
the
city
council,
this
ordinance.
F
Chief,
so
what
I
can
say
is
that
we
had
a
meeting
last
week.
We
are
preparing
to
brief
the
mayor.
We
are
it's
now
on
the
request
that
I
made
last
week
to
get
half
an
hour
with
the
mayor
to
brief
her
on
this,
but
we
also
there
are
some.
I
think
it
is
also
illegal,
so
there's
both.
F
We
do
want
to
make
sure
that
the
mayor
is
aware
of
where
it
has
landed,
and
it
is
also
illegal
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
compliance
when
we
and
our
legal
language
is
tight
when
we
introduce
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
chris
cook
very
clearly
said
to
me.
F
We
need
to
get
done
and
I
have
tried
to
get
my
sea
legs
just
a
bit,
so
I
make
sure
that
I
actually
understand
what
it
is,
and
so
then
we
can
take
it
to
the
to
the
mayor
and
get
that,
but
we
do
know
we
need
to
move
it
in
short
order.
I
do
not
have
a
timeline
exactly
because
I
am
trying
to
understand
when
we
are
going
to
get
it
back
from
legal,
but
we
are.
F
We
will
make
sure
that
the
mayor
is
clear
and
briefed
on
it
and
so
that
once
we
get
what
we
need
from
legal,
we
can
move
relatively
quickly
and
engage
the
council.
In
this
conversation.
I
Fair
enough
and
again
as
someone
who
didn't
write
the
first
beardo
legislation,
but
did
help
shepherd
it
through
and-
and
I
know
several
colleagues
can
can
sort
of
explain
how
that
went
happy
to
advance
this
any
way
I
can
and
again
to
be
completely
candid
not
being
on
a
ballot.
This
fall
means
I
just
want
to
get
this
done,
it's
less
about
sort
of
political
credit
or
getting
things
done.
So
I
guess
I
guess
I've
said
to
you
chief.
I
I've
said
to
the
acting
mayor,
I'm
happy
to
work
and
partner
with
you
guys
on
this.
I
want
to
see
something
done
and
I'm
happy
that
if
it
makes
more
sense
to
originate
this
from
the
council's
point
of
view,
I
know
my
colleagues
and
I
all
to
a
person
have
all
been
very,
very
interested
in
this
work,
so
so
I'm
happy
to
advance
it
that
way.
If
that's
what
the,
if
that
seems
to
get
us
there
sooner
but
again,
I
look
forward
to
a
good
partnership
to
to
beardo
2.0.
I
Very
briefly,
just
want
to
go
into
some
line
items.
It
seems
like
it's
a
pretty
pretty
standard
increase,
just
on
sort
of
for
the
budget
book.
Can
I
just
ask
specifically
the
boston
pollution
abatement
fund
from
external
seems
to
have
gone
down
pretty
dramatically.
Can
I
get
some
clarity
on
that.
B
Yeah,
I
let
us
get
back
to
you
on
that.
Actually,
though,
when
I
look
at
that
number,
it
doesn't
quite
make
sense
to
me
either,
but
we'll
get
back
to
you
about
it.
I
Okay,
fair
enough
and
then
the
moon
island
project
of
200
000
is
that
for
the
photovoltaic
panels
along
moon,
island
joao.
H
I
That
in
our
airing
so
delighted
for
that
and
then
on
line
item
52900
contracted
services
is
up
thousand
dollars.
Can
we
get
a
little
more
clarity
on
that.
B
Yeah,
that's
that's!
That's
the
green
jobs,
training,
money.
I
I
Two,
probably
two
great
okay,
that
is
all
for
this
round.
Madam
chair,
thank
you
and
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
councillor,
o'malley
all
right,
counselor
edwards.
H
R
All
right
I'll
wait
until
I'm
out
of
an
elevator
to
get
on
on
camera,
but
so
real
quick.
I
last
year,
I'd
followed
up
on
school
infrastructure
and
some
of
the
building
that
we
had
done,
and
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
some
of
those
questions
last
year,
specifically,
what
are
the
environmental
steps
you're
taking
with
regards
to
our
buildings
and
are
the
way
we
are?
I
don't
know
recovering
in
our
schools.
Specifically,
I
think
I'd
asked
about
all
sorts
of
we
were
doing.
R
Retrogrades
white
roofs,
all
of
those
things
with
looking
at
city
properties,
schools,
our
food
waste,
how
you
know
they
can
be
ecosystems
under
themselves.
So
what
are
we
doing
as
a
as
a
as
a
what
I
don't
know
as
a
city
in
terms
of
enforcing
environmental
policy
within
our
schools
and
infrastructure
of
our
schools?
R
The
other
question
I
had
was
with
regards
to,
and
I
think
it
was
just
following
up
again
on
landsberg
not
to
to
beat
a
dead
horse,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
an
understanding.
Specifically,
I
think
it
was
38
everett
street.
R
There
was
concerns
in
east
boston
as
to
how
that
process
went
down,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
this-
I
don't
know,
there's
a
lot
of
distrust
specifically
in
the
neighborhood
because
of
the
way
that
that
process
went
down.
The
building
was
going
down
before
there
was
again
a
decision
from
landmarks
and
then
finally,
so
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
your
community
engagement
process
for
local,
environmental
and
green
organizations.
R
R
So
how
can
we
ensure
that
that
we
don't
get
people
excited
built
up
ready
to
go
for
something
that
we
ultimately
can't
do,
because
we
didn't
either
study
it
enough,
and
then
I
did
have
a
question
from
a
constituent
text
to
me
just
now
about
community
gardens
and
how
we
can
pre-map
a
neighborhood
for
potential
spaces
for
community
gardens.
R
I
know
bremen
street
one
and
the
I
think
it's
sumner
street
and
ingle
hill
has
like
a
100
or
200
person.
Waiting
list
and
bremen
street
may
be
like
two
years
long
to
get
into
the
community
garden.
R
So
is
there
a
process
or
could
we
start
a
process
that
allows
for
community
to
kind
of
map
out
where
they
can
go
raised?
Beds
could
go
here
so
on
and
so
forth
to
allow
for
more
community
garden.
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
unifying
place.
You
know
we
have
easty
farms.
You
know
that
very
well
chief.
F
All
right
so
we're
going
to
try
to
move
these
move
these
through.
So
on
the
school's
issue.
I
do.
I
am
setting
up
a
meeting
with
superintendent
casilius
to
talk
overall.
F
I
do
know
there
are
resources
that
are
coming
into
them
right
now,
at
this
point
with
covert
recovery
and
trying
to
figure
out
if
there
are
ways
that
we
can
be
helpful
as
they
identify
those,
and
there
is
an
office
of
sustainability
there
so
also
wanting
to
meet
with
them
and
sort
of
figuring
out
where
they
are
is
in
the
big
picture
plan
within
bps,
but
I
will
hand
it
over
to
brad
to
speak
quickly
about
renewables
and
trust
and
how
that
works,
because
that's
a
lot
of
you
started
off
with
some
of
the
questions
about
retrofit.
C
Thank
you
chief
and
thank
you
counselor.
Yes,
the
city's
renew
boston,
trust
program,
the
self-funded
energy
and
water
retrofit
work
is
now
working
with
10
public
schools
in
the
next
phase
of
the
work
and
that's
planning
work
right
now,
and
energy
retrofits
have
an
opportunity
to
address
ventilation
in
a
direct
way
so
that
that
will
be
of
a
important
part
of
the
focus
of
that
work.
I
wanted
to
mention
that
the
push
for
white
roofs
is
one
that
we're
very
interested
in.
C
I
would
suggest
that
there's
a
lot
of
competition
for
rooftop
work
that
can
be
environmentally
significant
and,
on
that
regard,
the
bar
we're
looking
at
a
significant
photovoltaic
installation
on
boston,
public
school
roofs
as
part
of
the
next
phase
of
renew
boston
trust.
So
I'm
happy
to
get
back
to
you.
C
Yes,
we're
very
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
really
dig
into
the
schools
where
we're
we're
we're
working
on
10
schools
in
the
third
phase
of
the
reno
boston,
trust.
F
All
right,
so
I
will
try
to
get
onto
the
community
gardens
question.
I
did
have
a
meeting
again
today
with
hhs
and
with
catalina
from
the
office
of
food
access.
We
have
a
meeting
I
think
later
this
week
with
d
wanting
to
talk
about
how
we
increase
that
backlog
is
very
real.
The
trustees
is,
is
awaiting
a
call
from
us
to
talk
about.
F
Is
there
a
possibility
of
prioritizing
access
to
to
what
garden
infrastructure
is
there
for
low-income
folks,
so
excited
that
everybody
wants
to
grow
and
the
question
is:
is
there
any
way
to
make
sure
that
we
put
to
the
front
of
the
line
folks
who
need
the
growing
space
for
direct
food?
So
there
there
is
a
robust
conversation
somewhat
at
its
the
food
access
conversation.
F
It
is
pretty
pronounced
the
growing
side
of
it.
We
are
hoping
to
bring
some
some
some
support
to
bear
to
that
that
side
of
the
conversation.
As
you
know,
I
I
actually
manage
a
community
garden
virginia
monadnock.
I
got
a
waiting
list
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
everybody
in
it's
a
challenge,
and
I
think
the
reality
is.
We
just
need
to
grow
the
amount
of
space
that's
available,
but
we
are
early
in
that
conversation
and
that's
something
that
you
want
to
jump
into.
F
We
would
love
to
have
you
there
in
terms
of
the
the
community
garden
from
the
school
and
the
restrictions
in
advance.
Good
question.
I
think
that's
something
for
us
to
think.
Through
I
mean,
I
think
part
of
it
is
just
having
folks
know,
particularly
in
our
most
vulnerable
neighborhoods,
maybe
engaging
them
in
the
conversation
a
little
bit
earlier
about
where
things
are
and
making
sure
they
have
access
to
some
of
the
reports,
because
many
of
these
things
actually
are
documented
in
some
place.
F
It's
just
maybe
folks
that
don't
always
have
access
to
it.
So
we
love
to
go
offline
and
really
think
about
that
and
then
finally,
the
question
around
evan
street-
and
I
can't
tell
I
think
we
are
low
on
time,
but
roseanne
do
you
did
you
want
to?
That?
Was
a
landmarks
question
correct
around
everett
street
in
that
process.
P
Yes,
yes
chief,
it
is
so
the
house
of
38
lexington
street
is
a
was
a
pending
landmark
and
also
went
through
the
article
85
process.
P
The
house
was
demolished
to
our
surprise
the
day
after
the
demolition,
90-day
period
expired,
and
it
just
points
up
the
the
problem
with
having
pending
landmarks,
not
protected
and
right.
Yeah
problematic.
F
We
we
will
again
commit
to
moving
those
through
much
more
aggressively
this
year,
figuring
out
what
resources
we
need,
even
if
they
are
outside
resources
to
help
move
the
backlog
that
we
currently
have
and
then
again
we
are
really
excited
about
this
idea
of
a
city-wide
process
of
naming
and
cataloging.
What
landmarks
are
there?
F
We
will
start
that
when
we
have
some
confidence
that
once
we
identify
them,
we
can
make
sure
that
we
can
actually
move,
and
then
we've
already
talked
about
the
art
of
85
work.
So
look
forward
to
partnering
on
on
that
moving
forward.
A
Thanks
so
much
counselor
edwards
and
I'm
glad
you
asked
that
yeah
I
I
would
love
to
know.
If
there's
anything
we
can
do
in
the
meantime
to
you
know
think
about
whether
we
might
have
the
authority
to
assert
that
you
can't
demolish
a
pending,
landmark
or
at
least
sort
of
throw
up
some
hurdles
to
doing
that
beyond
what
exists.
It's
just
it's
so
disappointing
for
the
community
to
have
a
building
dead
like
practically
designated
like
that
and
then
not
get
it.
A
So
I
don't
know
chief,
if
you
guys
are
talking
to
isd
about
that,
but
I
I
think
it
you
know
it's
like
like
in
the
zoning
commission,
if
something
like,
if,
like
there's
a
sort
of
period
where
zoning
hasn't
gone
into
effect
yet,
but
as
soon
as
it's
been
noticed,
it's
sort
of
understood
that
it's
kind
of
coming
and
you
can't
do
something
in
countervention
of
it.
I
sort
of
I
wonder
if
we
could
circle
with
isd
and
legal
and
think
about
something
on
that
front.
A
Okay,
great
commissioner,
that's
great
to
hear
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
on
the
on
the
green
jobs
front
I
mean
definitely
would
like
to
work
with
you
all.
We
had
these
two
hearings
on
a
conservation
core
one
in
december,
one
in
march,
and
you
know,
I
think
I
think
you
you
reference
chief,
some
of
the
educational
institutions.
A
We
could
get
involved,
one
of
the
things
that
we
sort
of
surfaced
in
those
conversations
which
were
kind
of
respectively,
about
urban
forestry
and
then
green
infrastructure
in
terms
of
their
focus
was
just
a
lot
of
local
partners
that
we
have
on
the
ground
who
are
doing
sort
of
small
programs,
especially
with
our
youth
and
and
talking
a
lot
about
the
need
for
kind
of
a
connective
tissue
and
support
for
them,
and
I
think
I
think
hopefully,
he'll
still
be
out.
A
I
know
david
cleely
was
up
for
a
public
testimony
at
this
hearing,
but
codman
square
nbc
does
amazing
work
there
southwest
cdc
emerald
necklace
speak
for
the
trees.
We've
just
got
a
bunch
of
programs
that
are
kind
of
in
microcosm
working
on
that.
How
do
you
introduce
youth
to
green
jobs,
and-
and
so
two
thoughts
from
me
on
this
would
just
be
when
we
think
about
like
quick,
immediate
action
steps
thinking
about
what
can
we
do
in
partnership
with
those
success
link
partners
this
summer?
A
Even
if
it's
like
having
a
point
person
whose
job
is
to
like
visit,
all
those
programs
and
kind
of
get
to
know
them
and
think
about
how
they
would
potentially
look
like
part
of
a
scale
up
or
like
support
them,
a
bit
more
create
that
connective
tissue?
I
just
think
that's
a
very
immediate,
like
july
august
intervention
that
we
could
do
and
then
one
of
the
things
when
we
we
had
philadelphia's
power
core
up
to
talk
to
us
in
march.
A
They
were
great,
very
willing
to
be
sort
of
partners
in
the
nuts
and
bolts
stuff,
and
definitely
what
came
up
with
them
was
that
you
know,
as
you
convene
this
community
advisory
there's
also
with
something
like
this
to
really
to
really
shift
right,
where
we
would
actually
be
able
to
do
a
bunch
of
capital
planning,
we'd
be
creating
like
road
roads
to
new
jobs
in
some
of
our
departments.
We'd
be
creating.
You
know
a
job
pool
to
support
some
of
the
work
like
the
carbon
building
standards
that
you
guys
are
working
on
right.
A
The
private
market.
That's
going
to
drive
philadelphia
found
with
setting
up
power
core
that
it
just
desperately
needed
somebody
to
deal
with
the
intra-departmental
like
mechanics
of
trying
to
make
sure
you
know
the
that
the
procurement
piece
and
the
contracts
piece
and
the
different
workforce,
development,
plus
environment,
etc,
was
all
kind
of
playing
the
same
tune,
and
it
just
that
also
seems
like
an
easy
and
early
step
right
is
to
like
put
somebody
into
that
coordination
role
in
addition
to
kind
of
the
outside
stakeholders.
A
A
To
build
on
what
we've
been
talking
about
for
the
last
year
was
really
pleased
to
be
working
with
chris
cook
on
that,
and
I
think
that
that
also
surfaced.
Some
pretty
interesting
partners
like
the
u.s
forestry
service
boston,
is
one
of
its
only
urban
centers
in
the
country
and
then
we're
sitting
in
this
situation,
where
umass
has
one
of
the
best
programs
in
the
country,
but
like
we're
still,
none
of
our
young
people
are
ending
up
in
those
routes
right.
So
I
just
really
want
a
surface
that
we
would
hate.
G
A
The
transition
to
lose
track
of
some
of
the
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
there,
but
and
and
then
I
think
there
are
some
there
is
some
like
immediate
stuff.
We
could
do
as
we
try
to
plan
for
a
bigger
thing
in
the
future.
F
Yeah
yeah
and
I
think
if
we
had
more
time,
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
had
a
good
conversation
with
commissioner
woods
about
how
hard
it
is
to
find
arborists
young
arborists,
and
you
know
so.
There
are
a
number
of
places
of
opportunity.
F
A
Great
yeah
and
then
just
I'll
just
say,
carbon
performance
standards
like
we
just
need
to
get
them
in
asap,
totally
agree
with
with
counselor.
Oh
valley,
like
we
just
it's
just
like
the
time
is
now
so
anything
we
can
do
to
not
have
that
sit
with
legal
for
a
year
and
then
and
but
I
also
think
that
has
to
be
a
conversation
with
this,
because
what
we
found
as
we
dug
in
was
okay.
The
city
can
figure
out
like
we
can
do
the
urban
forestry
thing
we
can.
A
We
can
create
a
real
pipeline
of
arborists,
and
hopefully
you
know,
boston
becomes
the
place
that
everyone
around
the
country
hires
their
amazing
young
urban.
You
know
black
and
brown
arborists
from
right
like
we
could,
I
think,
that's
the
thing
we
can
do
same
thing.
Green
infrastructure
affiliate
is
ahead
of
us,
but
like
we
can,
you
know
we
have
a
real
route
and,
like
I
said
david
quilly's
been
doing
great
stuff,
lots
of
people
are
doing
great
stuff
again.
A
Those
also
we
can
create
a
route
into
some
public
jobs
with
water
and
sewer
and
stuff.
What's
weird
about
the
building
retrofit
stuff?
Is
that
not
weird,
but
just
different
right
as
it's
a
private
workforce
world
and
so
the
route
for
using
a
conservation
core
to
get?
A
There
is
not
as
obvious,
but
it's
also
clear
that
we're
gonna
drive
like
this
is
gonna,
be
like
one
of
the
biggest
markets
that
we
are
driving
through
our
regulatory
action
and
if
we
don't
proactively
figure
out
how
to
meet
that
need
that
we
are
creating
with
our
young
people
it.
It
will
be
met
by
sort
of
like
you
know,
just
whatever
rushes
into
the
brain,
which
is
unlikely
to
be
our
young
people.
So
just.
A
That
as
an
urgent
thing
and
then
yeah,
I
think
I'm
sure
I've
used
my
own
time.
So
I
have
an
infinite
set
of
questions
and
comments
for
environment
and
landmarks.
But
I
just
really
am
so
grateful
for
the
work
that
you
all
do
and
I'm
really
grateful
to
you,
chief
for
jumping
in
with
us,
as
you
say
quite
quite
early
in
your
tenure
here,.
A
M
Thank
you
and
just
a
quick,
quick
heads
up
with
regard
to
you
know
doing
a
historical
survey.
I
know
in
austin
brighton.
We
have
a
very
active
historical
society
that
has
done
such
a
survey
of
historical
sites
and
they
do
a
walking
tour
of
the
district
with
a
binder
that
includes
photograph
photographs
and
references
to
all
the
historic
sites
that
have
been
lost
over
the
years.
M
It's
a
it's
a
sad
reflection
of
what
what
we're
losing,
but
I
think
so
just
to
think
about
the
historical
societies
in
the
different
neighborhoods
as
a
resource
to
help
in
in
in
help
in
doing
some
of
the
footwork
in
doing
a
historical
survey
across
the
city.
There's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
information.
That's
already
there
that
I'm
sure
they'd
be
willing
and
enthusiastic
partners
on
that
project.
A
We
all
know
that
that
infrastructure
bill
if
it
comes
through
there's
going
to
be
this
huge
interest
on
the
federal
side
to
have
it
be
spent
quickly,
and
so
those
of
us
who
are
ready
with
projects
will
benefit,
and
I
just
think
some
of
the
huge
scale
stuff
we
need.
I
mean
I
think
in
my
district,
about
the
project
to
daylight
the
end
of
the
muddy
river,
our
most
polluted
tributary
of
the
charles
actually
connect
up
the
esplanade
and
the
you
know
create
a
real,
a
real
connection,
there's
a
bunch
of
great
ecosystem
stuff.
A
We
can
do
that
that
that
is
a
project
that
like
needs,
federal
money
and,
and
we
have
to
be
ready
to
ask
for
it-
I
mean
you
know
we're
trying
to
be
ready
in
terms
of
bothering
our
congress
people
to
put
in
earmark
requests.
But
you
know
it.
G
A
May
not
go
that
route
depending
on
what
senate
does
so,
I
just
think
being
ready
with
projects
is
a
great
idea
and
yeah.
So
now
I
want
to
go
to
public
testimony,
so
I'm
going
to
take
the
first
three
I've
got,
which
are
greg:
gaylor
of
the
boston
preservation
alliance,
david
queeley,
from
common
square
neighborhood
development
corporation
and
michael
thomas.
A
I
will
just
say
that
if
you
are
signed
up
to
testify-
and
you
are
not
currently
in
the
zoom-
now
would
be
the
time
to
get
in
the
zoom,
so
the
so
yeah
so
and
if
you
have
trouble
figuring
out
how
to
do
that,
shoot,
ccc.wm,
boston.gov,
a
note
and
staff
will
help
make
that
happen.
So
before
I'm
just
about
to
go
to
greg.
A
Before
that,
I
just
one
more
time
I
want
to
thank
chief,
hammond
and,
and
commissioner
spector
and
roseanne
foley
and
allison
brizzius,
and
now
I'm
listening
to
everybody,
which
is
dangerous,
also
brad
swing
and
joe
larusso
for
joining
us.
It's
a
great
team
and
and
a
special
shout
out
to
the
landmarks
folks
who
so
frequently
field
questions
and
queries
from
me
all
right.
Going
now
to
greg
gayler
from
the
boston
preservation
alliance,
greggy
of
the
floor.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
I'm
greg
galer
the
executive
director
of
the
boston
preservation
alliance.
I
want
to
thank
chief
white
hammond
for
touching
on
many
of
our
concerns
and
we're
excited
to
work
with
her,
and
I
also
thank
counselors
for
their
support
and
recognition
that
historic
resources
are
a
critical
asset
of
the
city,
but
I'll
be
a
little
more
blunt
than
others
this
morning.
N
The
under-resourced
landmarks
commission
struggles
each
day
to
fulfill
its
regulatory
responsibilities,
to
review
demolitions,
to
attend,
to
demands
for
new
landmarks
and
to
provide
prompt
service
to
properly
guide
growth
balanced
with
preservation.
The
guard
rails
in
our
system
are
failing
the
blc
struggles
to
reply
to
residents
begging
for
help,
as
they
see
their
neighborhoods
whittled
away.
N
The
blc
is
unable
to
be
proactive,
unable
to
be
equitable,
unable
to
properly
guide
our
city
with
efficient,
fair
and
up-to-date
regulations
and
procedures
unable
to
focus
on
fixing
the
process,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
without
investment
in
the
landmarks
commission.
The
city
of
boston
simply
cannot
meet
our
goals
for
equity
and
inclusion
cannot
meet
our
environmental
goals
without
proactively
addressing
over
70
percent
of
the
city
built
before
world
war
ii.
N
They
can't
respond
to
residents
demanding
the
distinctiveness
of
their
neighborhoods,
not
be
erased
or
effectively
guide
property
owners
and
developers.
Now,
while
I
thank
the
mayor
for
offering
modest
increases
to
landmarks
commission
budget,
including
funding
for
an
additional
staff
member,
these
increases
do
not
halt
the
backward
momentum
we're
facing,
and
I
have
some
proposed
solutions.
N
N
New
staff
can
provide
guidance
and
collaboration
with
residents
in
communities
shift
to
a
more
proactive
approach
rather
than
the
too
late
reactive
mode.
That
causes
the
consternation
you
all
hear
from
your
constituents.
We
knew
this
is
a
minimum
for
another
staff.
Increase
number
two
funding
to
tackle
the
long-standing
backlog.
You've
heard
about
and
talked
about.
That's
nearly
90
pending,
landmark
petitions.
N
This
ambiguity
leaves
buildings
vulnerable.
It
pollutes
the
whole
landmarking
process
with
uncertainty.
Additionally,
it's
completely
inequitable
with
groups
able
to
privately
raise
funds
to
complete
needed
studies
ahead
of
others.
This
backlog,
you've
sort
of
heard
it's
like
a
chain
around
blc's
neck,
leaving
them
unable
to
complete
the
process
of
newly
accepted,
landmark
petitions
in
a
timely
manner.
N
We
estimate
that
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
could
just
tackle
this
problem
either
by
outside
contract
or
the
temporary
three-year
staff
position.
I
think
it's
unrealistic
to
think
that
with
existing
staff
and
moving
people
around
you're
gonna
get
this
accomplished.
This
would
not.
This
should
not
require
outside
fundraising.
This
is
a
central
function
of
the
city
and
it
should
be
in
the
budget
finally
number
three,
which
was
are
also
referenced:
a
multi-year
comprehensive
survey
of
historic
resources
throughout
the
city.
N
This
is
a
long
overdue
investment
that
will
benefit
all
constituents.
It
will
reduce
uncertainty,
allow
for
planning
and
forward
thinking
and
provide
a
tool
for
the
city
to
better
control.
The
fate
of
its
existing
buildings
they'll
provide
an
understanding
of
the
historic
resources
we
have
their
value
to
residents
and
how
we
can
best
evolve
and
grow
without
destroying
the
heritage,
important
to
all
it'll,
discover
stories
and
places
of
importance
to
our
bipartisan
immigrant
communities,
who
are
woefully
underrepresented
in
both
our
historical
narrative
and
the
places
we
protect
for
future
generations.
N
A
survey
also
helps
guide
development
by
providing
information
about
the
significance
of
properties.
Reducing
the
surprises
encountered
today,
which
leads
to
frustration.
All
around
a
survey
will
allow
the
city
to
better
direct
desired
growth,
to
where
it
will
be
more
universally
welcomed,
better,
balancing
the
growth
and
preservation
we
all
desire.
This
is
a
serious
commitment
that
we
need,
and
we
estimate
this
is
a
three
million
dollar
multi-year
initiative.
N
Note
that
the
two
ladder
items
pair
well
with
the
one-time
three-year
window,
we
hope
to
see
in
the
federal
stimulus
funds.
I
urge
you
to
remember
that
historic
resources
that
we
enjoy
and
learn
from
today
and
the
new
ones
that
we
uncover
as
we
broaden
our
stories,
don't
survive
by
accident.
They
require
investment,
serious
investment,
that's
an
important
part
of
the
city
budget.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
greg
and
thank
you
for
those
three
really
concrete
suggestions.
I
think
they're
all
excellent
so
and
to
the
alliance
for
all
the
work
that
you
do.
Next
up.
We
have
david
queeley
and
then
michael
thomas
david.
D
Hi,
thank
you,
I'm
not
sure
my
camera's,
not
working
so
you'll,
just
have
to
hear
my
disembodied
voice.
Thank
you
for
counselors
and
staff
and
guests
and
welcome
to
chief
white
hammond.
I'm
dave
queeley,
director
of
innovation
at
common
square
neighborhood
development
corporation,
and
I'm
here,
representing
representing
common
square
in
dc,
as
well
as
the
fairmont
indigo,
cdc
collaborative
or
ficc,
a
collaborative
that
includes
codman's,
current
ndc
southwest
boston,
cdc
and
dorchester
bay
edc,
along
with
my
colleagues,
pat
alvarez
of
southwest
boston,
dorchester
resident
michael
thomas
and
jim
recht
of
climate
code,
blue.
D
I'm
here
to
support
the
creation
of
the
boston
conservation
corps,
a
once
in
a
generation
opportunity
to
create
green
jobs
that
serve
all
boston
residents,
while
promoting
equity
and
pathways
to
careers.
That
should
provide
a
ladder
of
success,
particularly
for
bypark
residents
and
workers
that
have
been
left
out
of
boston's.
Ongoing
expansion
and
development.
D
Creation
of
the
conservation
corps
is
one
of
three
key
areas
of
focus
for
ficc
as
part
of
our
kresge
climate
justice,
climate
change,
health
and
equity
initiative.
The
other
related
areas
of
focus
for
us
include
equitably
source
resourcing
inner
city
communities
through
the
recently
passed
massachusetts
climate
roadmap
bill
and
by
supporting
hero
legislation.
Currently
before
the
legislature,
these
programs
generate
12
million
and
300
million
respectively
for
workforce
development,
affordable
housing
and
open
space.
D
We
support
the
initial
proposed
funding
allotment
of
four
million
dollars
for
2022
and
suggests
that
the
city
budget
be
expanded
in
ensuing
years
to
ensure
program
and
expansion
and
growth
across
key
boston
departments
such
as
boston,
water
and
sewer,
public
works
parks
and
btd,
and
engagement
of
the
mayor's
offices
of
workforce
development,
re-entry
citizens
and
immigrant
advancement
to
ensure
training,
certification
and
hiring
policy
and
practices
benefit.
Participants
of
these
departments.
D
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
time
you've
given
me
to
give
this
testimony
and
further
refer
you
to
related
written
testimonies
submitted
by
gail
lattimore
executive
director
of
common
square
ndc,
and
I
know
jim
recht
was
waiting
for
a
while,
but
he
ended
up
submitting
his
testimony
in
writing.
So
that'll
turn
it
back
over.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
dave
yes
and
the
written
testimony
we
we
will
make
available
to
all
counselors
and
we'll
also
make
sure
it
gets
over
the
department,
since
I
think
you
know.
Obviously
the
green
jobs
work
is
all
in
formation
and
we
want
as
many
as
many
inputs
into
that
as
possible.
G
Good
afternoon
is
it
afternoon,
yet
the
day
is
going
by
so
fast,
probably
morning
time,
but
anyway,
hello.
My
name
is
michael
thomas.
I
am
a
boston
resident
of
both
roxbury
and
dorchester.
I
am
a
landscape
artist.
I
have
my
own
company,
the
urban
garden
landscape
services
and
I've
been
working
with
dave
queeley,
just
talking
about
the
issues
around
permaculture
and
also
been
participating
in
his
class
with
the
green
infrastructure,
certification
program
and
man.
G
It
has
really
opened
my
mind
up
to
you,
know
things
that
are
really
really
critical
to
all
the
things
that
you've
talked
about
in
terms
of
just
the
change
of,
what's
going
on
with
the
environment,
the
impact
on
the
just
the
buildings
and
and
just
the
communities
and
then
even
the
opportunities
that
exist
for
educating
the
youth
in
this
field.
G
I
think
it's
unfortunate
that
you
know
we
find
ourselves
in
this
crisis
situation,
but
we're
so
far
behind
in
the
education,
so
that
we
can
have
people
come
up
to
speed
and
be
that
cavalry
that's
going
to
come
over
the
hill
and
and
help
us
do
all
these
things,
and
he
all
of
us.
We
are,
you
know,
of
ripe
of
age
to
be
able
to
leave
the
charge,
but
we
need
to
prepare
those
next
generations
of
people
in
the
community
to
get
involved
now,
because
these
issues
are
just
going
to
exacerbate
over
time.
G
A
Thank
you
so
much
to
you
both
and
thank
you,
michael
looking
forward
to
having
your
continuing
partnership
in
this
work.
I
think
that
that's
it
for
public
testimony.
For
now
it
looks
like
I
don't
have
anybody
else
if
you're
watching
this,
you
should
be
getting
in
the
zoom
room
right
now,
but
before
I
gavel
out
just
I'll
just
go
back
to
chief
whiteham
and
if
she
wants
to
say
any
final
words.
F
No,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
I
have
my
coat
covering
my
shoulders
because
I
am
learning
how
cold
city
hall
can
be
in
this
transition
between
winter
and
the
coming
of
summer,
really
just
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
come
before
you
really
grateful
for
the
amazing
staff.
We
have
our
department.
Yes,
there
are
spaces
where
we
could
do
better
in
terms
of
retention
and
support
and
we're
going
to
be
working
on
that,
but
we
also
have
amazing,
committed
staff,
who've
moved
forward
so
much.
F
I
welcome.
There
are
a
lot
of
comments
and
and
questions
about
whether
or
not
we
have
the
resources
we
need
to
move
everything
forward,
both
in
terms
of
the
performance
standards
and
particularly
in
terms
of
landmarks,
would
love
to
continue
that
conversation
as
we
continue
figuring
out
what
our
work
plan
is
and
what
what
we'll
need
to
move
that
forward,
and
mostly
just
really
thankful
for
the
attentive
questions
of
the
council
and
looking
forward
to
the
many
opportunities
for
partnership
going
forward.
So
mostly
just
deep
gratitude
for
this.
F
My
first
budget
hearing-
I
thankfully
get
to
do
it
all
over
again
in
about
a
week.
I
think
so,
but
it's
been
a
good
experience.
F
Know
public
testimony
some
folks
who
I
I
do
recognize
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
also
particularly
around
the
green
jobs
community
advisory
board.
We
will
be
putting
those
those
the
application
together
very
quickly
because
we
want
to
engage
in
that
conversation
as
soon
as
possible.
A
Great
thanks
yes
and
yeah,
and
then
I
know
on
the
historic
preservation
side
greg
mentioned
the
survey
and
the
backlog
which
we
obviously
discussed
a
lot
today,
but
that
community
ombudsman
sort
of
piece
thinking
about
how
we
do
that
outreach
is
another
piece
to
put
in
the
hopper,
so
yeah
and
I'll
just
say
for
folks
watching
at
home.
Just
so
you
know
the
council.
A
We
have
budget
hearings
with
a
set
of
major
departments
that
have
like
sort
of
larger
budgets,
which
makes
sense
right
it's
more
money,
so
it
needs
more
scrutiny.
But
we
aren't
able
to
to
have
these
hearings
with
every
department
that
have
comparatively
smaller
budgets.
A
But
for
the
last
two
years
we
have
made
a
point
of
having
one
with
environment
specifically
and
that's
because
environment
is
sort
of
one
of
the
little
engines
that
could
that,
although
it's
a
smaller
department,
the
work
that
it's
driving
when
we
think
about
the
sort
of
trajectory
of
the
city
on
climate
change
and-
and
you
know-
and
I
would
also
say
the
preservation
of
our
historic
resources
like
these.
Are
these.
A
Briefs,
even
though
it's
a
comparatively
small
department,
so
just
just
want
to
say
that
us
having
this
hearing
in
the
first
place,
is
partly
a
recognition
of
the
importance
of
the
work
that
you
all
do.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
with
that
this
hearing
of
the
boston
city
council's
ways
and
means
committee
is
adjourned.
Have
a
great.