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From YouTube: Ways & Means FY24 Budget: BPD Grants on May 11, 2023
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Ways & Means Hearing - Dockets #0760-0768 FY24 Budget: BPD Grants
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B
B
The
council's
budget
review
process
will
Encompass
a
series
of
public
hearings
beginning
in
April
and
running
through
June.
We
strongly
encourage
residents
to
take
a
moment
to
engage
in
this
process
by
giving
testimony
for
the
record.
You
can
do
this
in
several
ways
attend
one
of
our
hearings
and
give
public
testimony.
We
will
take
public
testimony
at
the
end
of
each
departmental
hearing
and
also
at
a
hearing
dedicated
to
public
testimony.
The
full
hearing
schedule
is
on
our
website
at
boston.gov
forward,
slash
Council
Dash
budget.
B
Our
schedule
hearing
dedicated
to
public
testimony
is
Wednesday
May
17th
at
6
pm,
and
you
can
give
testimony
in
person
here
in
the
chamber
or
virtually
via
Zoom
for
in-person
Testimony.
Please
come
to
the
chamber
and
sign
up
on
the
sheet
near
the
entrance
for
virtual
testimony.
You
can
sign
up
using
our
online
form
on
our
Council
budget
review
website
or
by
emailing
the
committee
at
tcc.wm
boston.gov,
when
you
are
called
to
testify.
B
Please
state
your
name
and
affiliation
or
residence
and
limit
your
comments
to
a
few
minutes
to
ensure
that
all
comments
and
concerns
can
be
heard.
Email.
Your
written
testimony
to
the
committee
at
ccc.wm
boston.gov,
submit
a
two-minute
video
of
your
testimony
through
the
form
on
our
website
for
more
information
on
the
City
Council
budget
process
and
how
to
testify.
Please
visit
the
city
council's
budget
website
at
boston.gov
forward,
slash
Council,
Dash
budget.
B
B
B
For
our
format,
I
will
first
allow
my
Council
colleagues
if
they
wanted
to
reintroduce
or
a
statement,
a
30-second
statement
for
this
format.
We
will
go
to
a
presentation
presented
by
the
chair
myself
and
it's
basically
a
budget
analysis,
a
breakdown
or
more
visual,
hopefully
user-friendly
breakdown
of
the
BPD
budget,
then
to
public
testimony
and
which
should
be
quick,
because
we
only
have
so
far.
We
only
have
one
person
signed
up
and
then
to
first
round
of
questions
by
my
Council
colleagues
and
a
second
and
a
third.
If
time
allows
it
foreign.
B
I,
don't
think
that
I
can
see
that
far
so
I,
just
I'm
gonna
ask
for
a
brief
recess
just
to
get
some
copies
for
everyone
to
be
able
to
follow
exactly
what
I'm
going
to
be
presenting.
If
you
allow
me
just
a
couple
minutes,
apologize
we're
in
recess.
B
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
Way
back
in
session,
thank
you
for
your
patience.
We
were
trying
to
work
out
the
technology
and
hopefully
our
clicker
works
and
before
we
present
and
also
getting
copies.
So
this
is
a
breakdown
of
the
police
budget
or
Boston
Police
Department
budget.
B
B
B
Larger
spending
is
Bureau
Administration
and
Technology
operations
at
5.3
percent
of
the
total
budget
at
21
million
four
hundred
sixty
two
thousand
seven
hundred
ninety
four
dollars
and
then
you
can
see
you
can
read
the
rest
at
police.
Commissioner
Bureau,
and
that
means
sorry
office.
Not
just
the
commissioner
Bureau
of
professional
Department,
Bureau
of
community
engagement,
Bureau
of
Professional
Standards
and
then
Bureau
of
Intelligence
and
Analysis.
B
Next,
we
have
FY
BPD
recommended
by
expense,
broken
down
to
Personnel
contractual
services,
so
personally,
87.9
percent
contractual
services
at
6.6
supplies
and
materials,
2.3
percent
equipment,
1.8
current
charges
and
obligations
at
1.4
percent;
a
breakdown
of
the
increase
gross
increase,
12
million
334
478
dollars.
This
is
the
sum
of
the
change
in
all
of
the
line
items
that
are
that
increased.
B
The
net
increase
is
a
total
of
9
million
dollars,
nine
million
sixty
five
thousand
three
hundred
and
eighty
nine
dollars.
This
is
the
sum
of
the
change
in
all
the
line
items
that
increase
minus
the
sum
of
the
change
in
all
of
the
line
items
that
decreased
biggest
line
item
increase,
Bureau
of
field
services,
Personnel
Services
increased
by
7
million
905
747.
B
This
present
represents
the
87
percent
that
I've
already
presented
of
the
net
increase
and
64
of
the
gross
increase.
B
B
Part
two
encompasses
Bureau
of
community
engagement
and
Bureau
of
field
services.
Again
you
can
see
the
expense
category
listed
there
on
the
next
column
and
then
the
amounts
for
FY
24
recommended
FY
23
appropriation
and
again
the
changes
in
between
20
23
and
2024
by
thousands.
B
And
then
part
three
The
Bureau
Investigative
Services
Bureau
of
professional
development,
community
and
police
commissioner's
office.
B
This
slide
presents
to
you
all
the
decreases
and
for
the
programs
listed
here
that
Administration
and
Technology
bad
operations,
Bureau
of
community
engagement,
Bureau,
Field,
Services,
Bureau
of
intelligent
analysis,
Bureau
of
Investigative
Services
Bureau
of
Professional
Standards
police
commissioner's
office,
and
you
can
see
here
that
all
the
decreases
again,
the
change
being
from
20
FY
23
to
fy24
on
the
far
right
column.
B
Bpd
spending
by
program
over
time
Illustrated
here
you
have
the
FY
21
actual
expense
to
FY
22
in
the
red
FY
23
in
the
yellow,
fy24
green,
and
you
can
see
them
here
by
programs.
B
I
think
I'll
stop
there
just
to
allow
the
administration
for
any
comments
or
feedback
and
then
go
straight
into
our
round.
One
of
questions
based
on
the
slides
that
we
have
here
and
I
think
if,
if
I,
if
you
have
no
comments,
I'll
just
keep
going
and
then
we'll
go
into
our
conversation
about
programs.
C
B
Bureau
of
field
services,
fy24
recommended
by
expense
type
here
with
the
largest
mountain
personnel,
98.4
contractual
supplies
and
materials.
1.3
percent
contractor
Services
0.1
percent
Bureau
Field
Services
spending
over
time.
B
B
I
think
we
get
the
point
here
and
then
Bureau
of
Investigative
Services
and
the
remaining
of
the
Departments
will
give
you
the
rest
of
them.
I
will
pause
here
for
those
of
you
viewing
at
home.
I
can
come
back
to
the
presentation
after
the
first
round
of
questions,
and
then
I
can
continue
to
present
just
for
those
at
home
to
have
the
information.
B
All
right,
we.
B
As
mentioned
for
this
round,
we're
going
to
take
a
public
testimony
first,
just
to
get
folks
out
of
the
way
there's
only
one
person
waiting,
possibly
in
Spanish,
we
weren't
prepared
for
it,
but
I'll
interpret
for
you.
C
B
B
D
D
B
United,
thank
you
for
better
response.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
any
and
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
to
speak.
We
I
work
for
Neighbors
United
for
better
East,
Boston
and
I
also
have
a
letter
with
me.
Here
are
a
couple
of
my
colleagues
and
they
are
listening
and
possibly
will
speak
as
well.
We
also
have
we
have
some
concerns
and
we
I
have
a
letter
that
I
would
like
to
submit
later
as
well.
C
D
B
B
B
Unfortunately,
these
hearings
are
being
held
in
times
where
people
are
working
without
any
proper
notification
of
folks
are
not
able
to
actually
attend
and
testify.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
actually
have
our
schedule
when
we
could
actually
come
in
and
testify
to
our
cases
during
times
that
are
convenient
for
their
schedule.
D
Sir
foreign.
B
I
want
to
thank
in
particular
ly
loose
from
councilman
here's
office
and
councilor
Mejia,
who
actually
notified
us
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
be
president
and
testify
here
is
Marina
to
give
her
testimony
as
well
record.
D
D
B
Thank
you
Gracia
and
soon
I'll
be
sending
a
letter
with
voters
signing
on
to
advocate
for
the
needs
of
the
community
to
the
counselors.
Thank
you.
Gracia.
C
B
E
E
E
B
Marina
Maldonado
is
also
works
for
the
same
organization
as
miss
any
the
neighbors
United
for
better
East
Boston,
and
she
has
expressed
that
she
is
also
concerned
about
the
area
where
she
lives
see.
E
C
B
And
she
gave
specifics
between
streets
and
said
that
she
has.
There
have
been
many
cases
of
license,
plates
being
stolen
and
as
well
as
her
mom
gave
the
same
report,
because
her
license
plates
were
also
still
stolen.
Street.
E
E
B
D
C
B
All
right,
there's
one
other
person
on
Virtual
for
on
the
list
for
virtual
testimony,
but
she's
I
guess
not
available
at
this
time.
So
we'll
just
move
on
to
our
round
one
of
questions
in
the
at.
In
the
order
of
arrival,
councilor
Murphy
you
have
the
floor.
Thank.
F
I
want
to
say
in
between
actually
all
three
of
us
we
left
here
and
went
to
Charlestown
Danny
Ryan
does
his
annual
Burger
flipping
for
the
seniors,
and
it
just
reminded
me
when
the
cadets
pulled
up
star
and
Gabby
in
their
ice
cream
truck,
but
they
you
know
they
never
stay
in
the
truck
and
they
got
right
out
and
they
know
the
seniors,
and
it
was
just
an
example
of
community
policing
working
well
and
that
big
crowd
of
seniors
are
many
are
familiar
to
me
because
they
also
do
the
weekly
walk
the
beat
and
there's
all
these
great
programs
that
I
know
our
police
officers
across
the
neighborhoods.
F
You
know
some
might
have
different
activities
with
our
seniors,
but
they
just
do
a
great
job
and
Chrissy
rabriel
is
you
know
an
example
and
Carrie
Ryan
of
our
civilians,
so
I'm
just
thinking
do
we
need
more
civilian?
Are
there
any
departments
as
a
community
Bureau
of
community
engagement
or
others
where
we
wish?
We
had
more
civilian
openings.
I
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
the
staffing
needs
for
our
police
offices,
but
also
our
civilians.
F
G
You
know,
there's
always
opportunities
for
more
and
but
the
reality
is
for
trying
to
be.
You
know
physically
responsible,
but
you
know
there's
units
where
and-
and
maybe
we
can
talk
about
it
more-
where
we're
required
to
do
a
lot
more
things
that
we
never
did
in
the
past,
particularly
around
public
records
requests
and
things
of
that
nature,
where
it
would
be
nice
to
have.
You
know,
people
who
are
totally
dedicated
to
doing
that,
or
particularly
around
foyer
stuff
and
things
of
that
nature.
That's
certainly
not
a
police
job.
G
H
I
I
So
we
were
talking
about
in
the
in
the
slides
that
our
lovely
staff
member
has
put
together
the
the
actuals
and
spending
for
overtime
and
apologies,
I
had
to
leave
to
go
to
that
that
event
and
so
I
don't
know
if
you've
already
covered
this,
but
do
we
have
projections
so
far
for
the
actual
spending
for
for
overtime
this
year?
What
have
we
spent
and.
G
We
do
and
for
Lisa
answer
that
question
I
just
also
want
to
make
make
a
point
is
I
know
where
you
know
put
the
slides
out
for
the
public
to
see,
but
we've
noticed
some
discrepancies
certainly
and
what
the
slides
might
show
than
what
our
records
indicate
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
for
the
record
that
we're
not
adopting
you
know
the
PowerPoint,
because
we
don't
know
exactly
where
some
of
that
came
from,
but
we
can
certainly
follow
up
later
Lisa.
Could
you
address
the
question.
J
Both
right
now
for
for
overtime,
we're
at
nine,
we
we
do
a
lot
of
projections
for
overtime
based
on
hours,
because
I
was
a
more
accurate
than
the
actual
dollars
I
mean.
Obviously
we
do
convert
them
into
Dollars,
it's
just
because
if
there's
any
contractual
increases
that
over
time
would
increase
based
on
the
hourly
rate
increases
so
a
lot
of
times,
we
Project
based
on
hours
right
now,
year
to
date,
as
of
April
21st,
we
have
approximately
914
525
hours.
J
J
I
Okay,
thank
you.
I
do
want
to
switch
to
something
you
had
mentioned
earlier.
That
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
ask
about,
but
Roca
it's
incredible,
I
met
with
them
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
they
have
a
huge
role
in
helping
folks,
especially
young
people,
Veer
off
of
the
path
of
incarceration
and
avoids
Mercedes
recidivism.
As
we
all
know,
are
there
any
Associated
costs
within
this
budget
that
reflects
that
partnership
and
where,
where
does
that
line
item
live
so.
G
No,
but
we
we
it
is,
they
are
a
partner
that
we
can
make
referrals
to
that
that
they
come
in
and
work
with
with
the
sort
of
the
youth
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
as
it
is
as
it
stands
now,
there's
no
cost
associated
with
it.
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
the
increase
in
Bat
operations.
There
was
an
increase
of
eight
hundred
thousand.
What
what
is
that
going
to
be
spent.
J
I
J
Operations
consist
of
the
Departments
if
I
can
just
quickly
who
rolls
into
Batu
operations.
Those
are
our
facilities,
our
our
vehicle,
Fleet,
our
telecommunications
and
our
electrical
maintenance
for
the
for
the
for
the
buildings
and
for
well
all
the
buildings
that
roll
under
the
Boston
Police
Department,
the
the
increase
is
250
000
increase
there
for
technology
and
infrastructure,
and
the
majority
of
the
increase
that
we're
seeing
under
that
operations
is
the
increase
in
Auto
energy
supplies,
which
is
reflected
under
the
fleet
budget.
J
K
It
was
brought
to
my
attention
the
mission,
critical
audit
that
was
done
in
2018,
where
we
spent
I
think
it
was
about
80
000
on
best
practices.
So
can
someone
just
talk
about
why
we
haven't
implemented
those
best
practices
with
respect
to
the
mission,
critical
audit
for
operations
and
personnel
predates
UFC,
commissioner
and
my
name
pretty
the
chief,
but
so
there
was
an
audit
done
in
2019.
K
J
J
We
had
the
mission
critical
audit.
One
thing
that
we
did
in
Implement
is
the
recommendation
of
the
reclassification
of
the
positions
in
operations
which
we
did
through
a
settlement
with
SEIU
in
August
of
2022,
so
the
positions
of
call
taker,
police,
dispatcher
tape,
librarian
and
I
believe
trainers,
we're
all
reclassified
and
their
salaries
were
adjusted
accordingly.
There's
also
recommendations
for
career
paths
under
Mission
critical,
like
Progressive,
you
know
to
retain
to
retain
staff
so
that
they
have
a
career
path.
J
However,
some
of
that
is
going
to
be
tied
into
you
know
collective
bargaining
agreement,
since
there
is
a
you
know
sworn
in
civilian
up
there.
So
you
know
they
were
recommended.
You
know
more
civilian
supervisors
right
now,
they're
sworn
that's
all
would
be
tied
to
collective
bargaining
agreement.
They
did
mention.
J
K
And
a
tough
sales
with
my
the
first
half
of
the
hearing
where
I
talked
about,
we
have
sort
of
a
hiring
and
a
retention
issue
and
I
think
if
we
can
maybe
dive
back
into
those
2019
the
the
mission,
critical
audit
and
again
get
some
personal
involvement
from
the
commissioner
and
the
chief
to
see
if
we
can
kind
of
bridge
some
of
those
issues
down.
Yeah
I.
G
Appreciate
that
I'm
personally
involved
in
everything
in
the
police
department,
in
the
sense
that
we've
committed
a
great
deal
of
resources
just
recently
with
that
contract,
to
make
sure
that
they
are
more
than
compensated,
you
know
and
respective
for
the
work
that
they
do.
But
the
issue
is
we
need
to
get
people
into
operations
just
like.
We
need
to
get
people
into.
K
G
K
Then,
on
the
training
technology
and
the
equipment
side,
we
see
a
lot
of
Grants
come
through
my
committee
here,
Public
Safety
for
the
crime
lab
superintendent
and
DNA
and
the
brick
and
the
drug
lab
we
want
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
resources,
the
the
tools,
the
latest
technology,
the
latest
and
up-to-date
Great
Tech
equipment,
as
well
as
the
training.
So
is
it?
K
Is
there
anything
that
you
know
you
think
we
can
continue
to
do
to
assist
you
in
the
the
different
there's,
a
number
of
different
units
that
are
involved
in
this?
But
from
your
perspective,
how's
the
time
to
put
the
asking
as
we're
working
together
to
put
a
budget
that
makes
sense
for
you,
Robin.
L
L
Hello,
no
I
I
truly
appreciate
that.
Yes,
a
lot
of
our
investigations,
as
you
know,
is
science
related
in
in
terms
of
DNA
and
we're
we're
realizing
a
lot
of
success
in
that
area.
So
we're
seeing
more
cases
going
in
that
direction,
so
we
definitely
need
more
funding
to
for
the
crime
labs
for
the
crime
scene
and
the
homicide,
Division
and.
K
Then,
from
the
equipment
standpoint
in
terms
of
our
vehicles,
the
average
age
of
our
of
the
fleet,
and
are
we
keeping
up
to
date
again
with
that
technology?
There
was
also
some
recent
grant
money
that
came
through
my
committee
that
the
council
passed
that
allowed
at
the
dashboard
when
officers
are
putting
in
citations
and
whatever
so
there's,
not
a
duplication
of
that
effort,
which
was
prone
to
eras
in
terms
of
spelling
of
names
and
or
addresses,
and
things
of
that
nature.
J
Not
only
will
be
able
to
issue
these
citations
right
there
on
the
spot
like
through
automatically
or
print
out,
but
it'll.
Also,
the
e-citation
application
will
also
allow
us
to
report
to
the
registry
of
motor
vehicles
required
accident
reports
that
was
supposed
to
require
you
know
submit
to
the
registry
of
motor
vehicles.
So
that's
also
going
to
make
that
more
efficient
to
increase
our
numbers
to
get
those
reports
into
the
registry
Vehicles
right
and.
K
Then,
just
on
the
capital
side
of
the
house
are
any
of
our
stations
area
stations
in
need
of
significant
upgrades
or
repairs
or
new
buildings.
I
know
we
had
recently
moved
into
the
new
East
Boston
location,
but
your
counterparts,
fire
department,
a
lot
of
those
firehouses-
are
we're
in
horrendous
condition
and
we
kind
of
walked
away
from
them
for
many
years.
Are
there
any
stations
that
currently
are
in
need
of
consideration
for
Capital.
G
J
Yes,
so
we
have
a
few
studies
out
there
for
like,
for
example,
we
have
a
study
undergoing
right.
Now,
it's
undergoing
for
a
new
police
academy.
J
We
also
received
Capital
funds
to
improve
the
rightful
range,
the
long
rifle
range
at
the
at
the
range
and
Moon
Island,
which
is
great.
There
are
some
studies
out
there
to
to
look
at
E18
in
Hyde
Park.
J
J
So
we
are,
you
know,
continuously
looking
at
our
facilities
and
making
sure
that
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
we're
undergoing
a
major
renovation
headquarters
in
our
own
building,
as
far
as
replacing
the
roof
and
upgrading
the
elevators,
which
were
I
mean
obviously
over
20
years
old.
So
that's
a
huge,
huge
Improvement
right
now,
that's
great
going
on
and.
K
Then,
just
shifting
briefly,
this
Council
working
with
the
mayor
passed
and
we
also
sent
it
to
Beacon
Hill
in
the
past,
allowing
us
to
allow
retirees
to
to
do
police
details.
So
we've
got
trained
and
experienced
offices
that
still
fit
into
their
uniforms
that
have
the
ability
to
to
do
to
do
a
detail.
So
many
details
go
unmanned
every
day
in
the
city
of
Boston,
for
whatever
reason
we
haven't
deployed
that
jurisdictions
across
the
Commonwealth
and
Beyond
do
it.
We
have
the
ability
to
do
it.
This
Council
passed
it
our
mayor,
signed.
K
It
went
up
to
Beacon
Hill,
it's
on
the
books
and
just
ask
you,
as
the
commissioner
and
working
with
the
chief
and
your
team,
to
see
whether
or
not
it
makes
some
sense
with
respect
to
retirees,
many
of
whom
have
come
off
the
job.
K
Arguably,
because
of
the
mandatory
overtime
and
forced
overtime
stuff
like
that,
but
still
capable
have
the
relationships
in
the
community-
and
you
know-
may
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
to
stay
connected
to
the
to
the
BPD
and
and
be
able
to
participate
in
that
program,
and
so
please
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
and
or
we
can
have
another
discussion
and
just
lastly,
a
shout
out
to
all
you
captains
in
those
teams
in
the
districts.
They
do
tremendous
work
as
a
city
way.
K
Council
have
a
great
relationship
with
all
of
your
captains,
as
well
as
folks
that
are
here
and
in
in
the
in
the
audience
and
and
also
in
the
districts,
the
folks
that
are
doing
the
work
as
we're
talking
they're
doing
great
police
work.
So
it's
a
pleasure
to
continue
to
partner
with
you
captain
and
Chief,
and
the
team
and
I
look
forward
to
working
together
for
many
years
to
come.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
B
For
we'll
now
return
to
our
regular.
C
Program,
if
all
of
the
folks
that
signed
up
for
public
testimony,
if
you
can
make
your
way
down
to
the
microphone.
B
B
B
A
B
B
Are
going
to
speak
just
announce
your
name
for
the
record
and
affiliation
neighborhood?
You
don't
have
to
give
your
address
so
Christian.
Is
it
Mo,
Viano
Mariano.
M
B
Okay,
please
give
you
introduction,
and
the
floor
is
yours.
M
Hello,
my
name
is
Christian
Mariano
and
I'm
from
Roxbury
I
demand
that
we
divest
one
115
million
dollars
from
the
police
and
invest
it
in
the
community.
The
reason
why
is
well,
it's
a
little
too
high
and
it
can
be
used
for
other
things
like
housing
and
mental
health.
M
One
of
these
examples
for
the
mental
health
Investments
is
that
there's
a
new
Community,
Mental
Health
crisis
response
and
that
community
members
made
it
we
ask
to.
We
asked
to
divest
2.6
million
and
invest
it
in
the
Community
Mental
Health
crisis
response
things
like
this
help
the
community
if
they
want
to
protect
the
community
right.
This
is
a
way
to
do
it.
M
Finally,
I
have
a
question
for
you.
What
is
the
deal
with
the
81
million
dollars
in
the
community
Collective
bargaining
laying
around
and
how
much
is
there
for
the
police.
B
Thank
you,
Christian,
who
wants
to.
C
C
C
B
You
next
we
have
Hawa
King
lombos.
O
Oh
okay,
sorry,
hello
city
councilors,
my
name
is
Joachim
Lambos
I
am
a
student
of
Boston
Latin
Academy,
and
a
member
of
Youth
Justice,
empowerment,
Union
and
in
2020
Michelle
will
committed
to
cutting
down
the
police
budget
by
10
percent
in
2021
Michelle
Wu
committed
to
reinvest
police
budget
police
funds
into
the
community.
But
what
is
she
doing
now?
O
O
But
we
still
need
six
million,
but
we
could
use
this
money
to
invest
it
into
issues
in
our
community.
We
still
need
six
million
dollars
to
make
these
jobs
fully
available
year
round,
as
well
as
making
the
process
of
getting
jobs
easier
for
the
Youth.
We
want
success
links
to
hire
more
Outreach
workers
for
support.
We
would
also
like
a
community
audit
to
find
out
why
we
are
not
reaching
the
number
of
jobs
that
the
mayor
is
promising
and
we
would
like
to
figure
out
how
to
fix
that.
O
Many
youth
have
no
idea
how
to
apply
for
Success
link,
let
alone
know
how
to
get
a
work.
Permit
I
know,
kids,
my
age
that
need
to
work
to
provide
for
their
family
need
to
work
to
survive.
Making
15
an
hour
is
simply
not
enough
and
is
certainly
not
enough.
If
you
are
not
working
year-round,
the
city
council
needs
to
invest
the
police
budget
into
Community
issues.
I
would
like
to
ask
the
city
council:
can
we
get
a
detailed
breakdown
of
the
2022-2023
police
budget?
O
B
You
carlise,
can
you
pronounce.
P
Hi,
my
name
is
carlise,
I
am
a
latinx
female
living
in
Roxbury
and
I
am
here
today
representing
youth,
Justice
and
power
Union.
The
problem
with
the
Rays
and
the
police
budget
is
that
policing
is
a
systemic
issue
that
is
deeply
rooted
into
the
history
of
racism
in
the
United
States.
Raising
the
police
budget
in
Boston
does
not
fix
any
systematic
issues
or
fix
any
issues
in
our
communities.
Instead
of
relying
on
the
traditional
policing
methods,
which
often
rely
on
punitive
approaches,
we
need
to
focus
on
reducing
policing
and
investing
in
community-led
alternatives.
P
For
example,
the
city
of
Boston
and
Boston
police
should
be
funding
social
services
such
as
education,
mental
health
and
affordable
housing
programs.
These
help
to
address
the
underlying
causes
of
crime
and
violence.
Community-Led
initiatives
such
as
restorative
justice
programs
can
more
can
provide
more
effective,
Alternatives
alternatives
to
traditional
policing
methods,
while
raising
the
police
budgets
may
lead
people
to
think
we
are
stepping
in
the
right
direction.
Instead,
we
need
to
be
focusing
on
stopping
policing
and
investing
in
community-led,
Alternatives
that
prioritize
Public,
Safety
and
well-being
over
punishment
and
control.
Q
Hello,
can
you
hear
me
yes
good
afternoon,
good.
Q
You
for
holding
this
hearing
and
for
your
flexibility
figuring
out
when
public
testimony
is,
and
also
we're,
looking
forward
to
coming
next
Wednesday
night.
We
invite
all
the
counselors
to
to
join
us.
There's
public
testimony
next
Wednesday
from
six
to
nine
at
First
Parish
in
Dorchester,
where
we're
expecting
a
lot
of
groups
to
come
out
and
really
really
appreciate
the
chance
to
have
an
evening
Hearing
in
the
community.
Q
So
thank
you
to
the
chair
for
your
support
with
that
I'm
going
to
be
reading
a
testimony
for
Carmelo
Howe,
who
is
working
on
schoolwork
right
now
to
graduate
and
then
I'll
share
a
testimony
for
myself.
So
for
Carmelo,
my
name
is
Carmelo
Howe
and
I
live
in
District
7.
I
demand
that
mayor
Wu
and
the
city
councilors
divest
115
million
from
the
395
million
dollar
Boston
police
budget,
instead
of
increasing
it
by
10
million
I
also
demand,
including
a
real
cap
on
overtime
spending.
Q
Q
Q
Once
again,
the
city
council
has
the
power
to
move
money
from
the
police
budget
to
Investments
that
actually
help
keep
the
community
safe.
The
second
year
after
the
new
budget
process
has
been,
in
effect,
I
urge
the
city
council
to
cut
115
million
from
the
police
budget
and
move
those
funds
into
things
that
will
actually
help
our
community,
like
Mental,
Health
crisis
response
and
affordable
housing.
Thank
you.
Q
So
again,
that's
from
Carmelo
Howe,
so
my
name
is
George
Lee
I'm,
an
organizer
with
youth,
Justice
and
power
Union
and,
as
you
saw
from
the
presentation
earlier,
there's
12.3
million
dollars
of
gross
increases
to
the
Boston
Police
Department
before
subtracting
some
of
the
decreases
that
includes
3.5
million
going
to
contracts,
equipment
and
supplies.
Also.
Q
Last
year,
the
city
council
unanimously
voted
to
cut
overtime
from
the
police
budget
before
that
got
viewed
by
the
mayor
and
to
cut
3.5
3.1
million
from
contracts,
equipment
and
supplies,
including
eight
people
who
voted
to
try
to
override
the
vetoes,
including
some
of
the
counselors
here,
councilmania
Royal,
Fernandez,
Anderson
and
Coletta.
So
we're
asking
you
to
use
your
leadership
again
to
make
sure
that
we
can
move
some
of
those
police
funds
into
other
needs.
Q
There's
also
7.9
million
dollars
increase
in
Personnel
for
the
Bureau
of
Freehold
Services
about
500
000
increases
in
Personnel
for
Bureau
of
professional
development
and
there's
still
that
44
million
overtime
budget.
So
there's
plenty
of
places
to
take
funding
from
the
police
department,
as
well
as
to
find
other
places
in
the
budget
where
we
could
invest
in
things.
Q
So
the
mayor
just
extended
year-round
jobs
by
a
few
weeks.
She
added
more
year-round
jobs
because
we
felt
short
on
the
summer
jobs.
The
money
will
go
to
young
people
as
opposed
to
the
police
budget.
This
is
where
I
find
it's
hypocritical
and
FY.
22,
315.7
million
dollars
was
budgeted
for
permanent
employees,
but
only
307.9
million
was
spent,
which
means
the
budget
was
over
budget
by
7.7
million
for
permanent
employees.
Q
There's
no
reason
if
it's
over
budget
just
cut
the
budget
to
actually
make
it
reflect
reality,
so
it
feels
weird
that
youth
jobs
gets
looked
at
under
a
microscope
when
that
money
will
go
to
good
things,
but
we
can
just
add
extra
money
to
the
Personnel
line.
Item
for
police
add
extra
money
for
overtime.
Q
Q
So
again,
money
should
be
moved
to
participatory
budgeting,
at
least
40
million,
so
that
community
members,
especially
black
and
brown
folks,
who've,
been
hurt
by
police,
can
really
choose
and
vote
on
what
would
help
their
communities.
2.6
million
for
Mental
Health
crisis
response,
6
million
to
expand
youth
jobs
to
be
fully
year
round.
Not
just
this
half
November
through
April
jobs,
and
so
that
people
can
get
paid
15,
16
and
17
an
hour.
Q
Counselor
luigien
was
asking
the
other
day
about
how
to
make
sure
you
know
people
could
get
paid
competitively
compared
to
some
other
jobs
out
there
and
to
affordable
housing
at
Amis.
That
people
can
actually
afford
some
questions
to
the
BPD
and
budget
staff
which
the
chair
may
have
already
asked.
But
if
there's
any
questions,
I
feel
that
makes
sense
to
answer
now.
Q
One
is
to
understand
what
was
actually
spent
on
the
permanent
employees
line
item
this
year.
Is
it
over
budget
again
number
two?
Why
do
we
need
that?
10
million
dollar
increase
numbers
and
again,
especially
if
the
contract
might
increase
the
budget?
Why
are
we
adding
10
million
and
adding
money
through
the
Police
contract,
that's
being
negotiated?
Q
What
are
all
the
hidden
costs?
How
much-
and
maybe
this
is
something
the
budget
analyst
Krishna
could
help
with
how
much
is
being
paid
for
health
insurance
and
other
hidden
costs
that
aren't
reflected
in
the
405
million
for
police?
Can
we
get
a
more
detailed
breakdown
of
what's
happening
with
overtime?
There's
these
things,
these
overtime
banks
that
different
districts
and
special
units
have
where
they
have
a
certain
number
of
hours
they
give
out.
What
are
the
details
on
how
much
like
how
many
hours
does
B2
give
out
in
overtime
and
happy
13?
Q
What
what
are
those
Banks
and
why
are
overtime
costs
so
high
and
a
final
question?
Is
we
weren't
sure
why,
in
the
June
budget,
it
set
395
million
for
police,
but
in
the
current
document
it
says
that
396
million
was
passed
so
just
trying
to
clarify
if
there
was
a
supplemental
budget
this
year,
that
we
missed
that
added
a
million
or
just
what
that
one
million
dollar
difference
is
for.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Lee.
Would
you
would
you
be
okay
with
those
questions
being
answered
in
writing.
B
You
thank
you,
we've
taken
notes
and
we'll
submit
the
answers
from
the
Department
okay.
Thank
you.
B
All
right
we
can
proceed
with
our
is
that
if
we
go
testimony,
thank
you.
F
A
B
B
B
B
We
yeah
we
don't
we
don't
get
it
that
often
so
I
appreciate
again
once
again.
Thank
you
for
your
openness,
councilmania
resetting
the
clock.
I
apologize.
You
have
eight
minutes.
H
Okay,
so
I'm
curious
about
some
of
the
toys
and
gadgets
and
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
the
process
that
we
go
about,
purchasing
them
the
use
and
the
outcome
and
the
return
on
the
Investments.
Does
anyone
have
any
information
on
that?
Like,
let's
say
body
cams,
let's
say
drones?
Let's
say
all
of
these
gadgets
that
you
use
to
help
solve
crime?
How
many?
How
have
they
helped
support
your.
G
Cam
is
really
about
transparency,
it
just
so
happens
if
it
records
things
that
are
crimes,
you
can
actually
use
this
evidence,
one
way
or
another.
It
goes
towards.
You
know,
complaints
and
and
being
a
a
neutral
third
party
to
just
give
a
perspective
of
what's
going
on
in
general,
it's
not
a
tool
really
to
be
used
against
business.
It's
just
a
transparency
piece.
G
Is
a
tool?
Certainly,
we
use
in
police
for
transparency.
It's
a
neutral
third
party
that
records.
Well,
you
know
the
activities
of
both
the
officer
and
the
people.
Who've
been
participating
with.
G
In
the
police
department,
so
if
your
question
is,
are
there
people
in
the
department
that
don't
have
body
cameras
assigned
to
them
yeah?
Do
we
do?
Yes,
we
do.
J
Who
are
they
right
now?
The
patrol
for
us,
the
patrol
for
us
all,
have
body
cameras.
They
actually
have
two
body
cameras.
We
have
body
cameras
in
inventory
to
outfit
the
entire
Swan
for
us
for
the
Boston
police,
we're
just
waiting
for
their
negotiations
right
now
with
the
collective
bargaining
agreements.
Until
those
are
settled,
we
cannot
issue
the
body
cameras
to
the
other
units.
The
other
units
would
be
detectives
and
supervisors
and.
H
Detectives
and
supervisors
and
when
opat,
has
an
issue
right
when
people
report
like
I'm
talking
specifically
about
the
incident
that
I
saw
on
YouTube,
there
was
somebody
recording
a
police
officer
being
incredibly
aggressive
and
they
recorded
it
and
I'm
just
curious
if
those
incidences
are
also
recorded
on
the
body
cams
of
our
officers.
So.
H
H
I'm,
just
I
guess
what
I'm,
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
that
I've
had
parents
that
have
called
me
that
their
kids
have
been
antagonized
by
police
officers
and
have
been
mistreated,
and
so,
when
they
report
things
of
that
type
of
abuse,
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
reconcile
and
I'm
just
curious
about
how
you
are
using
when
somebody
is
using
Force
on
someone.
How
do
you
reprimand
them
and
how
do
you
utilize?
Whatever
tools
and
gadgets?
You
have
for
proof
that
people
are
being
disrespected
yeah.
G
So
I
think
what
it
is
is
we
investigate
all
allegations
and
misconduct?
You
know
involving
our
offices,
but
they
think
the
key
is
about
an
allegations,
and
so
we
investigated
just
like
a
crime
that
occurs.
People
claim
that
people
commit
crimes
all
the
time
we
have
to
investigate
that
to
make
sure
that
they
did
it.
You
know
before
we
certainly
can
issue
out
any
discipline,
so.
H
G
Again,
we
investigate
all
allegations
of
misconduct
and,
if
there's
body,
camera
footage
that
covers
it,
and
we
have
more
information
than
a
snippet
of
information
that
maybe
would
put
out
on
social
media
that
maybe
doesn't
reflect
the
entire
incident.
You
know
we
were
investigate
it
and
and
act
accordingly,
based
on
what
we
find
on
all
the
evidence
that
we
have,
including
witness
statements
and
things
of
that
nature.
Yeah.
H
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
the
point
that
I'm
trying
to
make
here-
and
it
goes
back
to
the
point
that
I
made
earlier
this
morning
about
trust
right,
the
public.
There
is
a
level
of
mistrust
when
it
comes
to
how
we
interact
with
our
police
officers.
It
is,
and
maybe
it's
a
YouTube,
video
and
people
take
it
out
of
context,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is:
is
there
a
level
there
is
a
level
of
mistrust
and
I
think
what
I
find
to
be
alarming?
H
Is
that
the
amount
of
money
that
you
are
investing
and
professional
development
and
Community
engagement,
you're
spending
more
money
on
you
know
brick
and
other
departments
than
you
are
and
things
that
are
going
to
help
improve
the
culture
and
climate
and
I
don't
understand
in
terms
of
like
how?
Where
is
that
disconnect.
G
H
You
spend
how
much
on
Community
engagement
for.
G
J
H
J
Me
so
Batu
operations
consists
of
facilities,
Fleet
telecommunications,
911
and
electrical
maintenance.
Okay,.
H
Then,
let's
go
at
Bureau
Investigative
Services,
because
you
know
we're
still
trying
to
solve
crimes
here,
that's
at
71
million
dollars,
but
yet
Community
engagement
is
at
4
million
I
guess
the
point
that
I'm
trying
to
make
here
is
in
terms
of
what
the
values
are.
If
the
community
is
asking
for
more
relational
opportunities
to
build
with
the
police
department,
then
at
the
very
least
your
budget
should
reflect
deeper
investments
in
community
engagement.
G
I
will
say
this
that
you
know:
community
policing
is
about
building
trust
and
you
can
build
trust,
multiple
ways-
part
of
the
police
department,
Accord
thing
that
we
do
here
is
we
have
to.
If
we
can't
prevent
crime,
we
certainly
have
to
investigate,
and
actually
you
know,
bring
the
Justice
people
who
are
perpetrating
crimes.
If
we
don't
do
that,
the
communities
we
serve
will
not
trust
the
police
department
and
they
will
create
their
own
form
of
Justice
out
there.
So
building
trust
is
really
important.
G
That
means
we
have
to
investigate
thoroughly
and
properly
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
perpetrator
or
hold
the
perpetrator
accountable
in
the
criminal
justice
system,
the
right
one
appropriately
right,
and
that
takes
time,
effort
and
professionalism
which
I
think
you
know
we're
trying
to
pride
ourselves
on
that.
So
the
Investments
we
make
in
Bureau
of
investigative
services
around
making
sure
that
we
do
that
and
thorough
investigations
builds
trust
just
as
much
as
Community
engagement
going
out
in
and
giving
ice
cream
to
kids
or
working
with
a
Bill's
trust.
H
To
say,
we
need
trust,
building
and
Professional
Standards
and
I
feel
like
this
is
look
you're,
the
one
who
you're
the
head
and
charge
of
this
on
the
budget,
and
this
is
the
mayor's
budget,
and
you
know
we're
here
to
just
try
to
understand
it
so
that
we
can
figure
out
how
we
go.
Tell
our
constituents
where
we
end
up-
and
it
sounds
to
me
that
there
is
a
disconnect
with
what
people
have
been
asking
for
and
the
Investments
that
we're
making
on
things
that
are
relational
and
I.
Think
that
this
is
my
fourth
budget.
H
Now
and
every
year
we
ask
to
you
know:
dismantle
the
gang
database.
We
talk
about
things
that
prevent
people
from
building
and
it
is
very
evident
to
me
and
you
could
feel
the
energy
sometimes
in
this
room
from
people
who
have
very
strong
opinions
about
how
they
think
about
black
and
brown
people
and
it's
written
all
over
their
face.
G
I
will
say
this
that
part
of
our
mission
and
job
is
to
make
sure
we
protect
everybody
and,
and
for
the
most
part,
a
lot
of
our
violent
crime
happens
in
neighborhoods
that
are
people
of
black
and
brown
and
when
I
go
to
community
meetings
and
some
of
our
people
go
to
the
community
meetings.
The
people
in
those
areas
are
asking
for
more
police.
The
people
in
those
areas
are
asking
for
us
to
be
to
do
more
to
prevent
things
so
that
they
can
raise
their
kids
in
a
peaceful
environment.
G
H
And
you
know:
I
just
want
to
I'm.
Just
I
will
continue
to
say
that
I'm
incredibly
Grateful
by
the
growing
number
of
people
of
color
and
positions
of
power.
That
is
encouraging
to
see
and
I'm
really
happy
to
to
see
that,
and
that
gives
me
a
sense
of
ease
that
I
know
we're
moving
in
towards
that
direction.
H
But
having
grown
up
here
in
the
city
of
Boston
I
think
we're
also
carrying
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
are
so
trying
to
unpack
and
I
still,
don't
think
that
we
are
hitting
the
mark
when
it
comes
to
culture
and
when
it
comes
to
race
and
when
it
comes
to
creating
the
type
of
climate
right,
brick
I
can
see
it
in
your
eyes
and
it's
all
good,
but
I'm
just
saying
it's,
it's
just
interesting.
H
R
You
so
I
just
want
to
touch
on
a
couple
things.
Thank
you
for.
Well,
it's
been
a
long
afternoon.
I
know
that
the
medical
folks
out
on
medical
has
come
up
from
a
number
of
different
sources.
I
I
know
that
there
was
a
conversation
about
you,
bringing
more
people
on
board
that
were
more
higher.
There
were
more
people
hired
to
sort
of
deal
with
this
issue.
R
I
guess
the
question
is
I.
Think
in
February
of
2023,
the
mayor
said
that
the
number
of
officers
out
on
medical
leave
is
at
10.
Is
that
still
accurate?
What
is
that
number.
G
R
And
I
guess
it's
pretty
close
yeah,
so
it's
it's
there
about,
but
it's
gone
down
a
little
bit.
I
guess!
My
question
has
always
sort
of
been.
You
know
when
you
look
at
and
just
based
on
wbr
numbers
that
come
from
the
FBI
crime
database,
San
Diego's
at
1.3
or
they're
about
San
Francisco
about
5.1
percent
worcestors
at
4.8
percent
Boston
is
about
double
or
more
than
double,
all
of
that
and
I
guess.
The
question
is
even
on
cities
that
are
comparable
in
size.
G
So
and
I
don't
have
those
stats
in
front
of
you,
but
if
you
know
certainly
I
believe
that
you're
probably
accurate
with
that.
So
that's
part
of
our
job
is
to
look
into
see.
You
know
whether
we
need
to
make
a
conscious
effort
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
culture
of
safety
in
general.
So
people
don't
you
know,
slip
and
fall
that
they
don't
get
hurt
while
they're
they're
hurting
I
mean
while
they're
working
in
general.
G
R
And
so
I
think
the
issue
for
me
is
that
this
would
either
speak
to
one
of
two
sort
of
anomalies.
One
is
either
the
Boston
Police
Department
is
remarkably
bad
at
keeping
officers
safe,
which
is
a
problem
that
I
would
want
to
take
care
of,
or
there's
an
anomaly
in
how
often
and
how
much
that's
being
misused
or
some
combination
of
the
two.
Obviously
both
of
those
are
within
our
control.
R
Either
we
are
going
to
do
a
better
job
of
protecting
officers,
so
they
don't
have
to
visibility
in
the
first
place,
because
if
that's
the
case,
then
that
is
a
problem
that
we
have
to
look
into
or
if
there's
an
issue
here,
where
there's
some
misusage
of
folks
who
are
on
medical
leave,
that
should
not
be
on
medical
leave,
then
that
is
enough.
That's
an
issue.
We
also
need
to
look
at,
and
you
know
those
are
the
kinds
of
issues
that
I
hope
we
do
focus
on,
because
I
was
just
pre-pre-dating.
R
You
I,
don't
know
that
you've
heard
this
in
the
past,
but
we
have
had
at
times
folks
will
send
up
here.
Catastrophic
injury,
disability
requests
and
we
have
had
catastrophic
injury,
disability
requests
where
those
officers
haven't
even
retired
yet,
and
so
there
are
a
number
of
issues
like
that,
where
I
think
there's
perhaps,
and
for
folks
who
I
know
you
all
know,
but
folks
are
watching
this
might
not
know.
R
In
order
to
get
catastrophic
injury,
you
have
to
be
unable
to
work,
but
in
order
to
still
be
on
the
BPD
payroll
on
that
you
have
to
be
making
an
honest
effort
to
come
back
to
work,
and
so
there's
a
there's,
a
disconnect
there
and
so
I.
Don't
know
how
widespread
that
problem
is
because
I
don't
know
that
we
have
had
anybody
really
audit
or
deeply
look
into
that.
R
But
I
am
deeply
concerned
about
sort
of
the
discrepancies
in
our
numbers
as
opposed
to
other
cities,
because
it
it
speaks
to
sort
of
two
possible
problems
both
of
them
within
our
control.
I
would
not
want
to
have
a
police
department
where
we
are
not
keeping
officers
safe
to
a
degree
that
is
two
or
three
times
worse
than
other
cities,
and
I
certainly
would
not
want
one
where
we
are
allowing
abuse
at
that
kind
of
rate,
and
so
I
know
that
there
was
some
conversation
about
what
what
positions
were
hired
I
guess.
R
The
question
is
what
what
accountability
is
there
in
instances
where
we,
we
determine
that
someone
is
doing
this?
Someone
is
not
actually
injured
or
not
using
this
system.
The
way
that
they
should.
Is
there
any
accountability
for
that,
and
then
what
are
the
measurements
or?
How
is
that?
How
are
how
is
the
Boston
Police
Department,
essentially
assessing?
Do
we
have
a
problem
here
with
keeping
officers
safe,
or
do
we
have
a
problem
here
with
with
folks
misusing
that
system,
so.
G
We
are,
you
know,
as
I
described
a
little
bit
before
we're,
certainly
looking
to
certainly
our
policies
and
procedures
to
make
sure
that
they're
very
tight
and
that,
actually,
you
know
things
that
are
already
on
record
that
we're
doing
those
things
to
make
sure
officers
make
it
back
in
We've,
I
think
bought
on
more
Physicians
to
actually
help
us
within
the
process,
and
you
know
we've
done
a
few
other
things
which
maybe
we
can
get
back
to
a
little
further
with
a
list
of
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done,
but
I
will
say
in
in
we've
had
a
17
percent
to
decrease
in
offices
out
injured
from
this
time
last
year.
G
G
R
G
Let
me
get
back
to
you
on
that,
because
I
I
don't
have
that
with.
G
G
The
fact
is,
is
there's
an
emphasis
in
US
intentionally
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
that
across
the
board
around
that
and
making
sure
people
understand
the
rules,
In
fairness.
If,
if
people
don't
understand
what
our
rules
are
in
some
ways,
then
you
know
you
know
that
might
be
an
issue
around
that
I
agree
I,
particularly
if
we
didn't
have
you
know
Physicians
and
things
of
that
nature
working
on
it
full
time
to
get
people
and
things
that,
but
we're
making
a
full
commitment
to
make
sure
our
you
know.
G
R
It
sounds
like
we've
already
sort
of
made
that
aware
that
BPD
has
a
plan
in
place
or
is
trying
to
put
a
plan
in
place
or
has
sort
of
started,
putting
a
plan
in
place,
but
has
continual
elements
to
that
player
to
address
that.
But
I
would
just
say
that
personally,
that
is
something
where
I'm
looking
and
then
just
because
I'm
on
a
timer.
This
is
another
thing.
That's
important
to
me.
You
were
with
the
Boston
Police
Department
for
a
long
time,
and
so
some
of
this
may
not
be
surprising
to
you.
R
It
has
long
been
understood
and,
and
the
data
Bears
this
out,
that
black
and
brown
officers
get
disciplined
at
a
rate
and
out
of
severity
that
is
very
different
than
other
officers
within
the
Boston
Police
Department.
That's
just
based
off
of
the
data.
That's
before
us
the
global
article
on
this
and
gave
us
all
of
that
data
there's
also.
They
also
wrote
and
I'll
just
read
it
so
that
I'm
not
misquoted
here.
R
But
it
says
that
even
though
white
officers
are
more
likely
to
receive
special
citations,
they
outnumber
black
officers
from
the
force,
and
this
is
all
data
but
I'm,
assuming
it's
pretty
similar
three
to
one,
but
as
a
group
receive
five
times
as
many
awards
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
when
we're
talking
about
internal
fairness,
how
is
BPD
looking
at
how
they
are
treating
their
officers
of
color
and
not
put
in
this,
because
this
was
broken
down
by
race
and
I
would
have
also
been
interested
in
gender.
R
How
we
are
treating
our
officers,
who
are
women
when
it
comes
to
Awards
and
discipline,
but
what
controls
have
been
put
in
place
to
make
sure
that
there's
an
even-handed
sense
of
fairness
and
equal
justice
for
officers
on
the
force
when
it
comes
to
these
kinds
of
issues.
G
G
You
know
I'm,
saying
that
they
have,
but
the
but
the,
but
the
reality
is
is
that
we
need
to
do
the
best
we
can
to
make
sure
people
are
developed,
and
you
know
we're
we're
an
organization
like
any
other
with
people
just
like
any.
R
G
I
mean
that's
why
we
have
to
be
intentional
about
making
sure
that
we
have
development
around
this,
that
we
talk
about
these
issues
and
that
we
have
a
you
know,
a
process
to
make
sure
things
are
fair
and
that's
why
you're
here
talking
about
things
like
accreditation,
things
that
nature
to
make
sure
that
you
know
the
rules
are
well
known,
that
we're
followed
up
on
and,
more
importantly,
that
the
people
that
are
in
position
of
power
understand
the
implications
involved
with
not
being
air
around
this
stuff.
G
R
R
Who
don't
share
units
with
them?
Who
do
not
back
them
up
in
issues
where
they
have
life
or
death
decisions
that
they
have
to
make?
If
you
cannot
treat
those
people
with
fairness,
how
am
I
supposed
to
believe
that
they
can
treat
people
on
the
street
with
fairness,
and
so
for
me
getting
that
in
order
is
an
incredibly
important
thing.
I
know
I'm
talking
to
the
choir
here,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
when
we
are
doing
this,
that
we
understand
the
level
of
importance
that
I
have
with
that.
R
If
we
are
talking
about
officers
and
I,
think
we
get
a
bad
rap
that
we
don't
support
or
respect
what
you
do.
My
grandfather
was
an
officer.
I
hold
you
all
to
a
high
standard
and
sometimes
I
think
some
people
they
don't
like
that,
and
some
people
respect
that
and
are
actually
honored
by
it
and
there's
a
difference
in
how
people
go
by
that
I
think
you
do
incredibly
important
work
and
that
there
are
moments
where
you
have
to
make
really
really
difficult
decisions.
R
I
also
think
that
all
the
biases
and
stressors
that
everybody
has
on
a
day-to-day
basis
and
life
impacts
all
of
you
in
a
real
way
and
if
we
have
off
officers
of
color
who
are
experiencing
unfairness
are
experiencing
lack
of
recognition.
If
we
have
women
or
other
folks
in
the
in
the
department
who
are
not
receiving
the
treatment
that
they
deserve.
R
That's
going
to
find
its
way
out
and
it's
going
to
find
its
way
out,
not
because
we
see
data,
but
because
in
the
ways
that
people
interact
and
because
we
lose
good
people
and
I
worry
about
that.
Personally,
because
I'm
rooting
for
y'all
I'm
rooting
for
good
people
in
your
department
to
make
it
into
these
spaces
and
to
make
the
changes
that
I
really
believe
that
you
are
capable
of
I
see
good
officers
every
day.
R
B
B
No,
you
can
take
as
much
time
as
you
like,
but
I
like
to
go
to
my
colleagues
and
that's.
R
B
R
B
Okay,
so
a
question
at
a
time
and
we're
bouncing
Council
Clarity
question
for
you:
yeah.
K
Thank
you
manage
you
just
want
to
sort
of
maybe
pick
up
on
my
colleagues
or
comments
around
having
a
defined
start
and
a
defined
finish
during
sort
of
the
the
medical
medical
leave
injured
on
the
job
and
then
even
those
that
are
looking
to
retire
and
trying
to
find
a
way
to
sort
of
I.
Guess,
if
possible,
accelerate
that
I
think
hope
may
be
on
the
way.
K
Keeping
our
fingers
crossed
that
we
may
finally
get
Chiropractic
services
on
the
formulary
for
Municipal
Employees,
which
I
think
will
go
a
long
way
for
the
men
and
women
who
your
department,
as
well
as
other
departments
across
the
city,
so
keep
our
fingers
crossed
that
that
will
come
to
fruition.
K
When
you
can
just
go
for
Chiropractic
services,
so
I
think
that
will
go
we'll
lend
a
hand
I
think
in
getting
folks,
maybe
back
in
a
position
to
work,
but
those
that
are
on
the
longer
term
injuries
and
trying
to
work
with
them
to
either
get
them
in
a
position
to
come
back
to
work
or,
if
they're,
looking
at
any
retirement
they're.
Just
trying
to
maybe
expedite
that
a
lot
of
times.
K
We
do
get
calls
to
help
folks
up
stairs
of
the
Retirement
Board
and
there
may
be
some
paperwork
that
hasn't
been
signed
off
on
or
they
have
to
go
through.
You
know
some
type
of
analysis
or
doctor
exam,
so
just
asking
that
we
kind
of
move
in
that
direction
and
then
secondary
lives
is
because
I'm
emotional
about
a
police
department.
I
tell
you
all
not
to
be
shy
with
respect
to
when
folks
talk
about
defunding
major
cities
across
the
city.
K
Our
size
of
big
who
have
defunded
are
now
upside
down:
crime,
violence,
cuns
gangs,
drugs
crime,
waves
running
through
those
neighborhoods
and
they're
now
scrambling
to
refund
and
to
staff
up
appropriately
we're
seeing
that
across
the
country.
We
don't
want
to
make
those
mistakes.
Fortunately
we
haven't.
We
get
great
leadership
here.
We've
got
great
Partnerships
here,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
onset,
our
community
policing
model
is
the
best
we
are
the
Envy.
K
There
are
lots
of
other
Departments
of
other
opportunities
centers
for
Youth
and
families,
Boston
Public,
Health,
commission,
BPS,
libraries,
Parks
and
Recreations
summer
jobs.
We've
got
a
lot
of
other
opportunities.
I
often
say
that
you
know
we're
a
resource.
Rich
we're
an
opportunity.
Rich
City
we've
got
the
best
college
and
universities
in
the
world.
We've
got
the
best
hospitals
and
network
of
Community
Health
centers,
there's
not
a
problem
we
can't
solve.
We
don't
have
to
go
in
and
start
tinkering
with
programs
and
and
departments
that
are
working
that
are
keeping
our
communities
safe.
K
So
I
I
offer
that
as
the
chair
of
Public
Safety
and
as
a
member
of
the
council
and
as
the
longest
serving
that
we
shouldn't
be
so
shy
and
bashful,
we
should
be
boastful
because
we
do
have
a
great
Department,
we're
not
perfect.
We
also
don't
have
a
perfect
city
council
as
evidence
this
week
we
kind
of
took
a
slap
from
the
federal
court
on
a
matter
that
we
dealt
with
recently,
but
we're
not
perfect.
We
don't
expect
you
to
be
perfect.
K
We've
got
the
latest
equipment
and
Technology
to
deal
with
whatever
issues
come
our
way,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
to
be
perfectly
clear,
there's
a
reason
why
Boston
is
not
Seattle
Portland
San,
Francisco
Chicago
I'll
go
right
down
the
list.
All
people
that
took
a
Meek
leave
it
to
their
Police,
Department
budgets
and
all
now
scrambling
scrambling
to
refund
and
to
staff
up
and
to
bring
offices
back
that
that
had
left
the
department,
Because
Of
You,
the
morale
they
weren't
being
supported
and
funded.
K
So
we're
not
in
that
position
because
of
your
leadership
in
your
team's
leadership
in
this
City's
leadership
and
I'm,
so
grateful
obviously
and
proud
to
be
a
true
Bostonian
someone,
that's
raising
my
family
here
with
the
city
in
a
relatively
safe
city
outside.
Do
we
have
issues
because
we
do
but
they're
solvable
and
we're
going
to
work
together
to
solve
them
and
just
want
to
say
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
was
on
the
record.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
Chief
and
team,
and
thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
B
You
Council
Flaherty
councilman
here,
yes,.
H
I'm,
a
true
Bostonian
too,
you
know
my
daughter
was
born
here,
even
though
I
wasn't,
but
I
went
through
every
Boston
public
school,
so
I'm
a
Bostonian
to
Rarity
I'm,
just
joking
with
you,
so
I
I,
wanted
to
start
off
by
I,
really
do
appreciate
councilor
Arroyo's
questions
because
it
was
really
getting
at
the
heart
of
what
I
was
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
discrepancies
right
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
like
everybody
says
they
have
a
best
friend,
that
is
a
person
of
color
or
whatever
I
have
a
I
have
family
that
are
part
of
the
law.
H
Enforcement,
family
and
I
have
deep
regard
and
and
respect
for
your
work
and
I
have
some
good
friends
here
that
I
value
and
that
I
see
out
in
these
streets
every
day
who
stand
up
and
show
up
for
our
community.
So
so
thank
you
for
for
showing
up
so
I
wanted
to
just
go
on
the
record
and
say
that
you
are
valued
and
the
reason
why
at
least
the
time
that
I've
been
on
this
console.
Why
I've
been
pushing
so
hard
around?
H
Some
of
the
discrepancies
is
because,
when
it
comes
to
black
and
brown
and
women
officers,
there
are
a
lot
of
discrepancies
that
we
still
have
to
fix
and
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
people
feel
uncomfortable
and
I'm.
Okay
with
that,
because
in
order
for
us
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
be,
we
all
have
to
be
uncomfortable
and
there
has
to
be
some
Investments
that
are
going
to
be
made
in
this
budget
cycle.
H
That
is
going
to
get
at
the
heart
and
at
the
core
of
what
we
have
been
asking
for
about
relationships.
Then
maybe
we
need
to
invest
more
in
relationship
building
you
know
and
if
and
I,
don't
think
you
should
all
experience
it
as
we're
taking
away
from
you
all,
because
if
we
look
at
it
like
that,
it's
always
going
to
be
a
deficit.
H
So
it's
really
about
how
do
you
share
the
wealth
in
a
way
that's
going
to
look
at
what
is
right
for
the
entire
Community,
not
just
one
department
and
I
think
that
that's
probably
where
the
tension
is
and
I
think
that's
where
the
opportunity
lies,
and
so
if
there
was
an
opportunity
to
share
the
wealth.
What
would
that
look
like
for
you.
G
I
do
know
that,
in
order
to
do
that,
we
have
to
build
trust
with
the
community,
which
we
try
to
do
and
continue
to
need
to
do
and
and
we'll
work
on
that
all
the
time
currently
right
now
the
biggest
need
we
have
is
we
need
to
attract
more
people,
diverse
people,
people
from
the
city
from
all
walks
of
life
in
this
city,
to
join
our
profession,
so
we
can
be
an
inclusive
Department
to
that
represents
the
city,
so
we
can
provide
Public
Safety
for
the
people
who
live
here.
That's
a
big
deal
right
now.
G
We
have
an
image
problem
right,
regardless
of
of
any.
If
any
individual
in
here
individually
was
involved,
we
do
have
an
image
problem
and
most
of
it
has
to
do
with
places
other
than
in
this
city.
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
trying
to
do
is
get
people
to
understand
the
good
that
we
do
all
the
different
functions
and
roles
that
we
we
fill
and
the
need
for
folks,
good
people
when
I
say
people
who
want
to
give
back
to
the
city
to
want
to
help
people
to
come
on
board.
G
So
we
can
continue
that
right
around
that
and
so
sometimes
engaging
in
in
conversations
about
you
know
other
places
or
maybe
even
a
time
period
that
doesn't
exist
today,
because
after
covert
we're
in
a
different
place
in
the
world
in
so
many
different
ways,
you
know
it's
not
as
productive
around
some
of
that
stuff
and
so
I
want
our
department
to
be
as
diverse
as
it
can
be.
So
it
represents
all
the
good
in
the
world.
G
So
we
can
continue
to
provide
Public
Safety
for
the
people
who
live
here,
yeah
and
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
We're
not
here
for
the
police
department
we're
here
for
the
public,
that's
the
deal
so
and
if
we
don't
get
funded
appropriate
ways
that
just
means
that
there's
less
we
can
do
for
the
public.
G
C
H
B
Want
you
to
listen
Carmelo
if
you
can
make
your
way
down
to
the
mic,
I.
B
All
used
today
and
we
take
second
place
today-
that's
all
and
as
they
they
need
to
get
home
and
go
get
back
to
their
homework.
You
know,
Carmelo,
you
could
sit
right
here
next
to
Council
Mejia.
S
S
My
name
is
Kulu
Howe
I'm
part
of
the
youth
Justice,
empowering
Union
I
live
in
District
7.
I
demand
that
Mary
Mary
Wu
and
the
city
council
has
diverse
115
million
from
from
the
306
395
million
police
overtime
police
budget,
not
average
I'm.
Sorry,
instead
of
increasing
it
by
10
million,
including
a
real
cap
on
overtime
spending,
invest
in
participatory
budgeting,
Community,
Mental,
Health
response,
youth
jobs
and
affordable
housing
and
freezing
all
hiring
for
the
Boston
police.
No
new
cops
and
no
new
Cadets.
S
The
city
must
split
the
police
budget
into
real
Community
needs.
We
have
created
a
community
enforced
by
police
instead
of
by
care
and
development.
Youth
needs
to
be
prioritized.
Mental
health
needs
to
be
prioritized
moving
toward
a
community
that
has
enough
access
and
support
to
de-necess
de-necessitize.
The
police
should
be
everyone's
dreams.
S
The
city,
council
and
mayor
must
make
sure
that
the
new
Police
contract
also
cuts
the
police
budget
instead
of
increasing
it,
especially
when
the
contract
might
add,
cost
the
police
budget.
It
is
unacceptable
to
increase
the
budget
by
10
million
for
the
second
year.
The
city
council
has
the
power
to
move
money
from
the
police
budget
to
Investments
and
actually
keep
the
community
safe.
I
urge
the
city
council
to
cut
115
million
dollars
from
the
police
budget
and
move
those
funds
to
participatory
budgeting,
Community
and
Mental
Health
response
youth
jobs
and
affordable
housing.
B
Are
you
did
great
and
we
did
hear
your
words
from
George
earlier
so
all
right?
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
always
being
involved.
H
Wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership.
That's
it
and
thank
councilor
Arroyo
for
is
very
thoughtful.
Questions.
I
really
think
that
that
gets
at
the
core
commissioner
about
what
I
struggle
with
in
this
world.
I
just
don't
see.
H
Well,
I'm
hopeful
I
do
believe
that
we're
moving
in
the
direction
that
we
need
to
go
in
to
ensure
that
black
and
brown
and
women
are
celebrated,
promoted,
respected
and
that
people
are
people
are
going
to
want
to
be
a
part
of
this
team
and
are
going
to
stay
here
because
they're
going
to
be
respected.
So
I'm
hopeful.
B
Thank
you
customer
here,
I
I,
hear
your
points
loud
and
clear
and
I
think
that
if
you
know,
if
we
get
into
concrete
numbers,
it's
difficult
because
I
hear
your
point
too,
about
the
police
department
in
terms
of
creating
reform
programs
or
trainings.
B
You
have
officers
that
are
very
skilled
and
educated,
who
will
build
curriculums
but
still
there's
an
extension
that
has
to
Encompass
mental
health
trainings
from
professionals
from
people
that
that
actually
do
it
as
a
profession,
and
then
you
that
means
more
money.
That
means
more
programs.
That
means
more
collaborations,
so
I
think
that,
like
BPS,
it's
difficult
to
expect
a
school
that
is
responsible
for
curriculum
or
education
to
also
add
to
their
curriculum
or
to
their
space.
B
All
of
these
social
services,
but
in
order
for
us
to
look
at
anything,
holistic,
Society
is
going
towards
a
direction
where
we're
looking
at
ecosystems
in
all
departments
in
all
systems.
We're
talking
about
specifically,
you
know,
are
our
officers
well,
but
also
are
they
equipped
with
the
mental
health
training
in
order
to
implement
services
in
a
way
that
they
are
sensitive
to
triggers
or
people
that
experience
trauma.
B
So
therefore
being
trauma
informed
or
receiving
trauma-informed
training,
and
so
when
we
look
at
the
numbers
in
terms
of
the
external
funds
budget
and
some
of
the
which
that
comes
in
from
the
city,
we
think
that
it's
just
a
very
small
amount.
It's
for
community
policing
or
for
any
type
of
pro
Community
programs.
B
We
just
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
bigger
investment
in
that
area,
but
that's
not
your
job,
like
you're
you're,
basically
saying
my
job
is
Public
Safety
and
we're
charged
with
that,
and
that
in
itself
is
a
lot
and
challenging
and
then,
in
addition
now
we
have
to
add
all
of
these
components
because
we
have
to
crisis
respond.
We
have
to
be
culturally
appropriate.
B
The
officers
are
sitting
in
their
cars,
no
more
walking
beats
and
we're
like
hey
what's
going
on,
and
then
it's
like.
Well,
then,
when
you
talk
when
you
actually
have
a
conversation
with
the
Department,
it
makes
sense
it's
like
well,
it's
not
that
we're,
not
it's!
We
we
do
sometimes
and
then
sometimes
it
requires
us
to
be
sitting
and
that's
more
impactful.
B
And
then
we
understand
more
of
the
reasoning
behind
why
what
you're
doing
but
then,
if
the
partnership
then
requires
I,
don't
know
Pine,
Street
and
others
to
provide
those
wraparound
services
or
you
know
so.
Social
Service
community
outreach
people
to
be
out
there
to
partner
with
you
in
order
to
crisis
respond
or
in
order
to
assess
the
situation
in
Nubian
Square.
Just
for
example,
then
you're,
you
know
you
say
to
me:
well,
hey,
look.
B
We
need
to
be
able
to
collaborate
more,
we
need
MGH
or
we
need
Pine
Street
or
we
need
bphc
to
comply
with
the
services
that
they're
supposed
to
provide
as
well
and
then
there's
the
back
and
forth,
and
then
we
we
say
well
if
we
are
curving
social
determinants
of
Health
in
our
youth,
if
we
are
giving
them
jobs.
If
we
are
addressing
these
other
needs,
then
maybe
we're
reducing
violence
in
a
sense.
B
So
when
we
say
to
you,
hey
look
we're
going
to
look
at
the
overtime
budget
to
cut
that,
because
if
you
need
it,
if
you
can
go
into
emergency
fund
and
some
people
think
that's
you
know
counter-intuitive
or
it
doesn't
make
sense.
So
it's
a
pretentious
move,
but
it's
not
essentially
it's
saying
little
by
little
eventually
you'll
see
perpetuating
a
cycle
of
improving
in
quality
of
life
for
our
youth
and
investing
in
their
social
determinants
of
Health,
hopefully
reducing
crime,
hopefully
less
over
time
and
I.
B
Think
I,
think
that
makes
sense
and
Advocates
think
that
makes
sense,
and
last
year,
as
you
saw,
it
was
veto
by
mayor
Wu.
We
think
that
meru
is
doing
a
good
job,
but
this
that's.
Why
we're
here
nobody's
perfect
she's,
not
perfect,
we're
not
perfect
and
I'm
happy
to
be
able
to
be
honest
and
have
this
Transportation
transparent
conversation
with
you
and
say:
look
the
budget
she's
making
a
recommendation.
Our
job
is
to
really
look
into
it.
B
Hopefully
it
doesn't
feel
that
contentious,
hopefully
you're
open
to
understanding
that
we
have
a
job
as
you
do
as
well,
and
let's
talk
about
the
numbers
and
see
what
makes
sense
and
so
moving
to
the
next
step
before
I
go
to
my
Council
colleague
I
just
wanted
to
wrap
my
part
up,
I
will
be
scheduling
a
working
session
with
BPD
I.
Welcome
you
to
look
at
the
numbers
with
us,
it's
a
working
session.
B
We
want
to
be
able
to
say
well
right
here
and
then
we
want
you
to
help
us
understand
not
that
cut,
because
that
doesn't
make
sense,
because
in
giving
us
your
reason
behind
it
and
I
think
that
level
of
again
open
communication
transparency
and
to
be
able
to
do
that
where
the
public
can
see
it.
We
have.
We
owe
it
to
the
public
to
have
the
conversation.
We
owe
it
to
the
public
to
make
it
accessible.
So
they
understand
how
this
stuff
works
and
again
the
race
conversation
that's
a
hard
one.
B
Nobody
here
is
probably
probably
doesn't
apply
to
you.
However,
it
is
our
responsibility.
We
have
to
have
these
conversations
and
commissioner
I
appreciate
that
you're
able
to
sit
there
and
say
yeah,
we
got
a
image
problem,
and
that
is
a
thing
because
of
our
historic,
systemic,
oppressive
practices
or
racism,
and
we
look
forward
to
improving
that
and
nonetheless,
we
are
here-
and
we
have
a
job
to
do
so
again
appreciate
that
this,
hopefully,
is
an
improved
conversation
and
we
look
forward
to
the
working
session.
Council
Royal,
you
have
the
floor.
R
So,
first
off,
thank
you.
I
know
my
my
questions
are
often
a
little
bit
more
complicated
and
that
they're
they
have
layers,
and
we
have
five
minutes
here
and
it
makes
it
really
difficult,
but
I
put
them
there
so
that
you
understand
what
I'm
trying
to
look
at
and
why
I
try
I
hope
that
they
give
you
a
sense
of
what
I'm
looking
at
and
why
I'm
looking
at
these
things,
and
so
the
sort
of
the
final
sort
of
piece
to
this
is
internal
affairs-
and
you
know,
I
was
brought
a
stack.
R
I
mean
the
latest.
One
is
very
recent
I
mean
it's
April,
8th,
2023
and
there's
some
concerning
aspects
that
have
been
a
long
held
feature
of
internal
affairs
at
the
Boston
Police
Department,
and
some
of
the
data
that
they
have
here
is
for
cases
open
and
completed
between
2010
and
may
2022.
The
average
investigation
took
two
years
and
two
months,
some
take
a
lot
longer
more
than
400
cases,
language
for
four
or
more
years,
and
during
that
stretch
the
oldest
case
still
pending
was
open
on
February
10
2010.
R
R
Since
2010,
the
department
has
only
sustained
one
out
of
every
five
citizen
complaints
according
to
records
of
complete
and
internal
Affair
cases,
and
so
I've
Had
A
variation
of
questions
with
folks
in
the
past
that
different
budget
hearings
and
I've
heard
all
kinds
of
things
like
well,
we
under
invest
in
Internal
Affairs,
and
so
the
reason
that
internal
Affair
cases
takes
long
is
that
we
just
don't
have
enough
staff
to
do
internal
Affair
cases
which
is
kind
of
troubling.
R
That
y'all,
like
that's
a
lot
of
internal
Affair
cases,
and
so
the
question
is
how
many
people
do
you
currently
have
on
staff
at
the
Boston
Police
Department,
to
conduct
these
internal
Affair
cases
and
sort
of
a
better
time
frame,
because
I
would
say
that
both
in
the
incidences
that
involve
civilians
with
officers,
we
deserve
faster
timelines
than
that
and
on
incidences
that
are
internal
I.
G
So
I
can
answer
that
for
you,
but
the
number
of
people
Internal
Affairs,
but
more
importantly,
right
now.
Currently
we
are
have
enlisted
District
captains
to
start
to
participate
and
certainly
in
doing
some
lesser,
certainly
no
high
profile
cases
but
lesser
internal
Affair
cases
that
don't
involve
you
know,
use
of
force
or
criminality
and
things
of.
R
And
so
when
you
say
faster
use
of
force
in
criminality,
would
that
be
like
disparaging
commentary
or
where
somebody
feels
disrespected,
but
it
doesn't
rise
to
the
level
of
physical.
N
Violation,
yeah
can
be
investigated
and
handled
at
the
district
level,
so
those
may
involve
allegations
such
as
respectful
treatment
but
depending
on
the
severity
of
the
allegation
or
the
level
of
disrespect
shown.
That
may
remain
in
Internal
Affairs
for
investigation
by
the
team
that
that
is
assigned
in
that
unit.
I.
R
G
But
the
fact
is,
if
you're
a
supervisor,
that's
your
role
in
job
is
to
address
these
issues
so
we're
trying
to
spread
it
out
that
way
in
a
lot
of
ways,
but
we've
done
a
few
things,
certainly
to
help
expedite
some
of
these
cases,
whether
it's
commitment
of
resources
and
the
initial
beginning
to
make
sure
we
get
it
done
doing
some
other
things
within
the
case
itself
around
sign
offset.
Maybe
they
don't
need
to
happen
in
that
same
way.
So
what
we
are
addressing
the
timeliness
of
some
of
those
cases.
R
So
I
guess
the
question
I
would
have,
for
you
is
opening
up
the
door
for
district
captains
to
handle.
Some
of
these
matters
is
that
a
new
feature
is
that
something
that
always
has
been
there
or
is
that
something
that
has.
G
R
General
and
with
oversight
from
internal
and
then
I
guess
the
the
hope
is
that
that
takes
some
of
the
filler
to
some
of
the
lower
level
incidents
out
of
the
way,
so
that
you
can
focus
on
some
of
the
heavier
issues.
It.
R
R
R
Sergeant
detectives
and
is
that?
How
is
that
reflective
I
guess
for
me?
How
is
that
a
increase
from
say
two
years
ago,
where
were
you
at
two
years
ago,
or
is
this
steady,
because
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
If
part
of
the
issue
here
with
internal
affairs
is
a
lack
of
people
and
Internal
Affairs
is
back
to
that
image
issue.
Internal
Affairs
is
where
we
root
out
some
of
the
problems
that
we
have
here.
R
G
Will
I
will,
and
so
that
is
occurring
as
we
speak?
You
know
there's
no
doubt
about
that
in
the
investments
in
in
the
unit.
If
your
question
is
about
how
many
people
are
we
going
to
actually
put
into
the
unit
itself
that
that's
a
different
category
that
if
we
think
we
need
to,
we
will
add
more
to
it,
but,
right
now
by
dispersing
out
the
caseload
I
think
that
will
go
a
long
way
to
Expediting
all
cases
across.
R
R
So
it's
relatively
recent,
so
it's
too
too
recent
really
to
get
a
sense
of
how
that
helped
with
the
with
the
case
flow
I,
look
forward
to
hearing
an
update
on
that
at
a
future
date
when
we
don't
have
such
a
small
sample
size.
So.
N
N
Well,
you've
got
12
people
plus
a
deputy
superintendent
and.
R
And
so
that's
a
that's
a
numerical
term.
A
bunch
of
captains
is
so
when
we're
talking
about
this
I
think
it's
just.
It
goes
back
to
I
think
for
officers.
It's
important
to
have
timely
answers
to
these
kinds
of
things.
I
wouldn't
want
something
hanging
over
my
head
for
two
four
years
and
I
think
for
the
public.
It's
it's
good
that
we
get
these
right
in
a
timely
fashion.
R
I
would
just
say
that
the
one
that
I
that
I
personally
would
like
to
see
handled
because
I
think
it
deals
with
other
issues
that
we
would
like
to
deal
with
is
the
one
that
you
currently
have
going.
The
court
overtime
probe
that
you
currently
have
going
that
has
been
there
for
at
least
I.
R
Think
we're
now
going
on
three
years
involves
a
number
of
people
and
I
would
just
say
that
the
scope
of
that
is
actually,
in
my
opinion,
quite
large,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
the
overlapping
officers
who
have
had
and
for
for
folks
here
who
aren't
familiar
with.
It
is
a
situation
where
the
court,
overtime
records
and
police
records
show
that
some
people
are
at
the
same
place
at
the
same
time.
I'll
get
into
this
a
little
bit.
Basically
I.
R
If
I
left
at
two
hours-
and
it
says
I-
was
there
for
three:
it
doesn't
impact
that
total
number,
but
as
somebody
who's
in
charge
as
a
fiscal
Steward,
it
makes
it
very
difficult
for
me
to
trust
that
you
were
there
for
any
amount
of
time.
If
you're
there
for
two
hours
and
you're
there
for
three
or
you
were
there
for
one
hour
and
then
you're
there
for
30
minutes.
That
tells
me
that
that's
an
unreliable
way
of
keeping
track
of
who's,
where,
when
and
so
that's
a
problem,
I
think
is
larger
than
just
that.
R
Internal
Affairs
complaint,
but
I
think
that
Internal
Affairs
complaint
will
show
us
sort
of
what
the
problems
are
and
I
think
in
2012.
We
had
a
similar
thing,
and
so
the
goal
here
is
really
for
me
is
to
get
to
the
systemic
fix
and
if,
if
you
have
a
problem
that
is
systemic
and
that
goes
back
to
the
culture
stuff.
R
This
is
a
good
way
to
get
to
that,
and
so
just
know
that
I'm
watching
for
the
results
of
that,
so
that
I
can
get
a
better
sense
of
what
we
have
to
do.
But
when
I
say
that
problem
is
bigger
than
what
you
have
before.
You
know
that
when
we
ran
those
in
that
information
we
only
had
access
to
the
author
of
these
police
reports
and
as
someone
who
was
a
public
defender
and
read
many
police
reports,
I
know
that
there
is
almost
never
a
time
where
there's
just
one
officer
at
a
scene.
R
My
question
to
you
is
frankly
is,
and
it's
not
actually
fine,
I
have
one
more
question
for
you.
So
I'll
save
this
one
for
last,
because
I
think
you'll
like
it.
So
this
one
question
that
I
have
for
you
is
I.
I,
actually
think
you
guys
do
do
too
much.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
ask
you
to
do
and
we
pull
you
real
thin
and
you
do
a
whole
bunch
of
different
things.
R
And
my
question
for
you
is:
is
there
any
one
thing
that
you
can
think
of
that
you
would
say
it'd
be
so
much
better
if
someone
else
was
responsible
for
sort
of
taking
that
off
of
the
police
officer's
plate,
because
I
think
the
the
scale
and
the
amount
of
things
that
we
ask
an
officer
to
do
at
any
given
time
is
so
wide
that
I
fully
agree
with
you
all
that
we
ask
y'all
to
do
too
many
different
things.
Y'all
can
be
pulling.
R
You
know,
cats
out
of
trees
or
helping
old,
ladies
or
finding
lost
children
and
responding
to
a
murder.
So
it
is
wild
the
amount
of
things
that
we
ask
you
to
do,
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
is
there
any
area
there
where
you
believe
that
additional
resources
in
another
place,
not
necessarily
taking
from
you
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
but
additional
resources
that
we
put
in
another
place
could
reduce
the
workload
for
you.
So.
G
G
They
need
help
and
we
show
we
are
the
primary
people
to
show
up
when
people
need
help
dealing
with
folks
that
are
suffering
from
mental
health
illness.
This
is
not
something
that
you
know.
We
were
trained
in
as
much
as
other
areas
of
what
we
do,
but
the
reality
is
is
that
we
show
up
to
people
who
have
mental
health
issues
and
no
matter
who
you
deeply
those
out
to
the
fact
is:
most
agencies
aren't
equipped
to
deal
with
people
that
are
violent,
so
there's
any
kind
of
violence.
G
The
police
will
always
be
called
because
that's
been
the
nature
of
the
Beast
and
if
we
aren't
appropriately
trained
in
all
the
different
things
that
we're
trained
in
you
know
to
deal
with
Crisis,
Intervention,
de-escalation
and
all
that
other
stuff.
Then
at
any
point
we
will
act
inappropriately
because
we
weren't
appropriately.
G
Triggered
so
our
budget
is
what
it
is,
because
we
do
so
much.
Training
and
I
have
a
whole
list
of
all
the
different
trainings.
We
do
because
Society
has
said
that
we
need
to
be
trained
in
these
things
if
we
have
to
show
up
and
we
have
to
show
up
because
the
public
calls
and
needs
our
help.
Yes
right,
so
it's
a
yeah,
it's
a
thing.
G
R
Sure
there's
other
areas,
but
what
I'm?
What
I'm
hearing
is,
where
you
are
seeing,
or
perhaps
not
what
you
were
saying:
I,
don't
put
words
in
your
mouth
in
terms
of
the
the
additional
duties
that
officers
are
sort
of
taking
on
when
it
when
it
comes
to
mental
trauma
or
mental
breakdowns
or
sort
of
that
aspect
of
this
work.
R
R
Would
say
that
usually
I
would
not
say
always
I
think
that
we
have
real
issues
where
there
are
sometimes
racial
responses
to
why
people
are
called.
R
Somebody
looks
different
in
my
neighborhood
and
they
might
not
look
different
one
way
or
the
other
we've
seen
police
officers
weaponized
in
that
way
and
I
think
police
officers
themselves
just
like
being
weaponized
in
that
way.
So
I
understand
that
the
main
calls
are
usually
because
I'm
in
need
and
I
have
help
I
think
there
are
other
times
in
which
we
we
probably
should
analyze
all
of
those
different
ways
in
which
we're
dealing
with
that
and
I.
Don't
think.
R
G
R
G
Is
but
the
reality
is:
is
that
we're
here
to
do
good
and
that's
what
that's
our
primary
purpose
and
for
the
most
part
that
is,
that
is
primarily
what
we
do.
We
do
need
to
change
that
narrative
to
make
sure
that
we
have
sufficient
people
to
do
this
job
in
the
future,
that
we
are
a
place.
That's
diverse,
to
make
sure
that
we
always.
R
The
correct
way
and
I
think
there's
a
way
to
get
us
there.
I
do
I
really
do,
and
so
my
final
question
for
you
is
you've,
been
here
all
day,
taking
questions
all
day.
Is
there
a
question
that
you
were
not
asked?
Is
there
some
topic
that
you
would
like
to
speak
on?
That
was
not
asked
to
you,
because
I
would
like
to
give
you
the
floor
and
answer
the
question
that
was
not
asked.
G
Yeah,
no,
no
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
I
I
wish
in
some
way
shape
or
form.
We
could
have
more
dialogue
about
what
it
is
that
we
do.
There's
a
lot
of
misperception
out
there
most
of
the
men
and
women
that
come
on
this
job.
Do
it
for
all
the
right
reasons
in
the
world.
We
try
to
train
the
people
as
best
we
can.
We
need
to
evolve.
G
We
need
to
always
add
to
our
training,
because
the
fact
is
when
we're
called-
and
we
show
up-
we
don't
know
what
we're
showing
up
to,
and
so,
therefore,
we
always
have
to
invest
in
our
officers
to
make
sure
they're
appropriately
prepared.
You
look
out
into
the
big
world
that
we're
in
now,
I
love
a
world
when
we
didn't
need
police,
yeah,
I'd
love
a
world
but
I
didn't
have
a
job
because
it.
R
G
The
reality
is,
since
the
beginning
of
time,
there's
always
been
an
authority
that
has
to
happen
like
that,
because
there's
a
dark
side
of
human
nature
that
when
there
is
no
Authority
like
that,
that
we
pray
on
each
other
and
you
can
look
out
on
the
news
every
single
night
and
you'll
see
it
every
single
day
in
this
city
and
every
place
else.
We
are
here
to
protect
the
people
from
those
folks
we're
here
to
try
to
prevent
that
from
happening.
That
is
our
primary
purpose.
G
R
Stuff
yeah,
it's
a
lot
of
culture
change,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
leave
you
with
is
this?
Is
that
I'm
grateful
for
what
you
have
brought
here
today?
I'm
grateful
for
the
vision.
I
know,
you're
eight
months
in
so
I'm
I
got
some
time.
I'm,
not
grading,
yet
complete,
hopefully,
but
I
will
say
that
I
actually
believe
in
intentions.
R
I
believe
that
people
with
good
intentions,
trying
to
do
good
more
often
than
not
will
do
good
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
these
systemic
barriers
and
I'm
talking
about
with
mbpd
and
without
outside
of
BPD,
that
the
systemic
barriers
that
we
are
dealing
with,
that
take
people
who
have
good
intentions
and
get
us
to
a
place
where
the
results
are
not
the
results.
That
good
intention
should
lead
to
I.
R
Think
most
of
y'all,
almost
all
of
y'all
want
to
do
very
good
and
I
think
the
same
way
where
I
I
look
at
individuals
who
are
committing
criminality
in
some
other
aspect
and
I
say:
there's
some
aspect
of
their
life.
That
is
impacting
that
I
think
that's
true
for
officers
as
well.
If
they
do,
you
know
we
just
recently
had
the
conviction
of
the
the
gift
cards
and
all
of
that
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
all
of
that,
but
obviously
there's
something
there.
R
There
was
something
there
and
I
think
when
we're
talking
about
officers
or
people,
they're
all
people
and
Phil,
from
the
standpoint
of
how
I
look
at
this,
where
and
how
we
can
create
systems
that
allow
you
all
to
be
your
best
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
That's
what
I
want
to
do
and
where
we
can
create
systems
where
we
help
folks
who
otherwise
may
have
needed
your
assistance,
but
they
don't
because
we
provided
other
systems
of
care.
R
I
want
to
do
that
too,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
put
this
stuff
in
place.
I
look
forward
to
creating
real
structures,
but
if,
in
a
year,
I'm
sitting
here
still
looking
at
internal
Affair
backlogs
still
looking
at
problems
with
accountability,
still
looking
at
other
issues,
then
we'll
have
to
talk
about
what
the
holdups
and
the
implementation
of
these
systems
are
and
I
recognize.
You
have
a
very
difficult
work
system.
R
Change
is
very
difficult
work
and
so
in
any
way
in
which
the
council
or
myself
can
be
of
assistance,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
But
I
think
that
there
are
ways
to
go
about
this
in
which
we
could
work
in
deep
partnership.
I
think
there
are
other
places
where
we
may
have
disagreement
and
I
hope
that
those
disagreements
do
not
lead
to
the
inability
for
us
to
have
deep
partnership
where
we
may
so.
Thank
you
all
for
the
work
that
you
do.
B
Thank
you.
Don't
don't
close
your
book
when
he
starts
talking,
I
I
still
have.
B
Kidding
for
those
of
you
at
home,
I
know
that
we
only
went
through
half
of
the
presentation.
If
you
want
this
copy,
I
can
send
you
an
attachment
via
email.
Please
email
me
at
tanya.anderson,
boston.gov
happy
to
share
with
you.
B
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions
just
to
wrap
up,
and
everyone
knows
that
I
am
all
D7,
so
we
in
D7
I
cover
a
girl
call
Roxbury
and
some
of
South
End.
How
many
police
stations
is
that.
B
So,
like
I
imagine
standing
at
American,
Legion,
Highway
and
hugging
your
arms
around
Wrap
Your,
Arms,
Around,
Blue,
Hill,
Avenue
and
walnut
go
down
to
dimmick,
Columbia
Road,
multiple.
G
B
Dorchester
C11
and
C11:
okay:
where
can
I
find
a
map
to
figure
out
what
catchment
areas
are
in
those
for
those
stations?
Are
they
are
not.
G
Live
where
what's
the
BPD.
B
And
on
average,
would
you
do
they
have
a
breakdown
of
how
many
officers
per
District?
Where
can
I
find
that
information.
B
Oh
as
I
see
is
that,
like
just
for
the
sake
of
safety
or
all
right,
and
how
many
best
do
you
do
you
work
in
collaboration
with
best
clinicians,
or
do
you
actually
house
them
within
the
department
that.
T
The
best
clinicians
are
within
the
district
stations
and
the
specialized
units,
and
they
do
we,
we
do
a
co-response
model,
so
they
do
go
out
with
officers.
C
B
Thank
you,
and
on
average,
in
particularly
Roxbury,
do
you
have
any
walking
Beats
at
all
on
post?
Do
we
do
that
anymore?
Yes,
we
do
have
one.
T
B
And
I
just
want
to
know
yes
and
where
I
can
can.
B
And
sorry
quickly,
just
sorry
I
know
I'm
trying
to
wrap
up
to
a
key
Stick
six,
my
word
and
as
far
as
community
policing,
I
don't
know
if
we
need
additional
folks
to
come
down.
But
if
what?
What
exactly?
Does
that
look
like
a?
Does
that
Encompass
programs
with
youth
or
what
are
we
doing
in
terms
of
building
relationships
with
youth?
It.
G
Covers
all
the
above,
we
have
multiple,
multiple
programs.
Community
engagement
has
a
you
know
several
signature
programs.
The
academy
has
a
a
teen
Academy
there.
We
work
with
youths
in
so
many
different
ways
that
maybe
that's
offline.
Maybe
we
could
talk
about
it
and
tell
you
about
some
of
our
programs
that
we
have
in
general,
I.
Think
there's
a
school
meeting
tomorrow,
I
think
there's
a
segment
I'll
talk
about
about
that.
Then
too.
B
B
Okay,
great
I,
guess
the
reason
the
budget
for
community
policing
just
seems
really
small
and
I'm.
Just
wondering
about
the
different
programs
that
you
offer.
G
So
we
offer
quite
a
few,
but
community
policing
is
what
I
said
enforced
about
building
trust,
and
you
can
build
trust.
Many
many
different
ways
in
working
with
kids
is
one
way,
and
you
know
treating
people
procedurally
just
way
is
also
always
another
way.
There's
so
many
different
ways
to
build
trust.
You
know
I
can't
even
enumerate
them
all
now,
but
you
put
them
all
together
when
we're
putting
the
public
first
and
we
talk
about
it
and
we're
intentional
that
is
community
policing
together
right.
So
it's
if
community
policing
is
a
is,
is
a
theme.
G
B
U
Good
evening,
counselor
good
evening,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
so
I'm,
a
superintendent,
Jimmy,
Chen
I
am
the
superintendent
of
the
Bureau
of
community
engagement,
so
in
the
Bureau
of
community
engagement?
What
I
house
in
my
Bureau
is
the
school
police
unit
and
the
city-wide
liaison
unit
and
amongst
the
Crime,
Stoppers
and
crime
watch.
U
So
in
my
Citywide
liaison
unit,
when
you
talk
about
Community
engagement,
they're,
very
unique
in
the
sense
that
those
officers
dare
have
their
own
programs,
how
many
I
have
nine
officers
there
and
one
supervisor
and
they
they
run
individual
programs
one
program
I'll
use
an
example-
is
grow
girls,
that's
girls,
reflecting
our
world,
that's
all
teenage
women
in
that
program
and
we
take
them
in
and
Empower
them,
and
we
run
these
programs.
U
Youth
they're
teenagers
and
they
meet
at
least
twice
a
week
and
they
meet
all
year
round
and
they
stay
in
our
programs
and
we
bring
in
mentors
to
speak
to
them
and
have
dialogues
and
we
teach
them
financial
literacy.
Things
like
that,
and
so
it's
a
very
unique
program
and
a
lot
of
the
females
that
stay
in
that
program.
They
stay
with
us
for
a
few
years
and
then
they
move
on
to
college
and
other
things
in
their
life.
We
also
have
act
up
with.
U
It
varies
each
each
year
because
some
stay
and
some
leave,
but
roughly
around
50.
youth
in
that
program
we
have
other
programs
run
by
other
officers
and
we
do
like
taekwondo
training
twice
a
week
in
various
parts
of
the
city.
We
we
do
that
at
the
Perkins
Center.
We
do
that
at
the
YMCA
in
Chinatown.
We
do
that
now
we're
starting
one
in
the
nazaro
center
in
the
North
End.
So
we
touch
a
lot
of
different
communities
in
our
programming
but
we're
very
different
than
per
se.
The
community
service
officers
that.
B
U
They
yeah
were,
they
were
available
to
all
youths
in
the
city.
Obviously,
so
you
know
we'll
take
anybody
that
wants
to
participate
in
our
program
would.
U
Actually,
majority
of
our
youth
are
coming
from
those
areas.
Okay,
and
you
know
we'll
offer
things
that
you
know
they
otherwise
would
not
have
seen
you
know,
and
but
we're
very
different.
I
just
want
to
explain
that
we're
different
than
the
community
service
offices
that
you
see
in
the
districts.
Okay,.
B
U
Community
service
officers,
so
every
District
there's
11
districts
and
they
have
their
own
community
service
office
with
one
supervisor
and
a
few
officers
that
do
various
things
specific
to
the
district
and
they
handle
like
the
seniors.
They
handle
the
complaints
that
are
more
specific
to
the
districts
and
they
have
handle
a
lot
of
the
3-1-1
complaints
and
they
basically
do
the
meetings
that
you
see
most
of
the
time
and
all
the
all
the
different
districts
I.
V
Sorry,
I'm
Jenna,
Savage,
I'm,
deputy
director
of
The
Office
of
research
and
development
and
I
just
want
to
add.
You
know
we're
obviously
talking
about
the
operating
budget
today,
but
that
doesn't
reflect
all
of
our
investments.
I,
just
don't
want
that
to
be
kind
of
the
thought
process
here,
because
the
BPD
does
apply
for
between
10
and
14
million
dollars
in
Grants
every
year,
and
we
get
about
80
percent
of
that.
So
a
lot
of
our
initiatives
are
Grant
funded
and
we
take
the
we
take
the
initiative
ourselves
to
apply
for
that
money.
V
Yeah,
of
course,
but
when
it
comes
to
community
policing,
that's
why
I
can't
not
mention
the
Shannon
Grant,
which
is
a
huge
effort
that
we
make
that's
all
focused
on
youth
violence,
prevention
intervention,
so
you
know
I
truly
do
think.
Community
policing
is
is
throughout
our
entire
police
department.
We
do
have
one
Bureau.
Obviously
it's
called
The
Bureau
of
community
engagement,
but
I
would
say
that
every
officer
does
focus
on
community
policing
and
we
do
get
Grant
funds
that
help
support
that
throughout
the
city.
V
C
B
Yeah,
that
sounds
great
yep.
Thank
you.
So
much
of
course,
can
you
walk
me
through
crisis
response
in
terms
of
you
know
that
it's
a
mental
health
thing
or
if
you
know,
if
you
know,
if
you're
being
told,
can
you
walk
me
through
like
what
happened
step
by
step?
The
call
comes
in,
and
it's
you're
being
told
that
someone
has
is
experiencing
a
mental
health
issue.
B
T
Bearing
in
mind
that
safety
is
Paramount.
So
if
it's
a
situation
that
where
there
are
safety
risks,
we
always
take
those
things
into
account,
but
generally
they
get
the
same
information
that
we
have.
They
have
access
to
the
same
information
that
we
have
so
any
information,
that's
communicated
via
our
CAD
system
is
also
viewed
by
the
officer,
as
well
as
the
clinician
and
the
determinations
as
to
how
to
respond
to
that
call
will
take
place
after
they've
had
some
communication
and
they're
on
scene
they're
able
to
assess
that
situation.
N
On
that
same
note,
we
do
offer
a
40-hour
crisis
intervention
team
training
that
we
are
attempting
to
deploy
department-wide.
That
is
something
that
is
fully
Grant
funded
through
the
Department
of
Mental
Health,
one
of
our
partners,
and
it
covers
a
variety
of
topics
from
mood
and
anxiety,
disorder,
psychosis,
personality
disorders,
youth,
mental
health
and
Trauma.
B
Thank
you,
I
used
to
work
with
a
dual
diagnosis,
clients,
and
there
have
been
times
where
I
have
to
call
an
officer
to
go
with
me
or
I've,
also
worked
in
collaborative
in
partnership
with
best
in
terms
of
providing
home-based
therapeutic
services,
and
there
are
times
where,
if
I'm
going
to
call
best,
I
have
to
call
the
police
and
then
sort
of
triage
the
situation
outside
of
the
home
and
then
sort
of
create
a
you
know,
a
plan
eventually
like
what.
B
What
are
we
going
to
do
like
next
steps
and
then
go
in
so
I'm
very
familiar,
because
I
used
to
I
worked
about
a
decade
in
mental
health
field
and
just
really
interested
in
understanding?
What
exists?
Because,
as
you
can
see
more
than
just
you
know,
the
youth
is
here,
but
a
lot
of
Advocates
are
suggesting
services
and
when
you
look
at
the
you've
done
a
great
job
in
bringing
in
the
9000
I'm,
sorry,
the
nine
million
463
000
and
some
change
in
Grants
and
outside
funds,
and
that's
commendable
and
I.
B
Just
think
that
it's
it's
not
necessarily
that
I
don't
believe
that
it
belongs
in
the
police
department.
In
terms,
oh,
it's
not
your
responsibility
to
have
all
of
these
additional
services,
but
rather,
if
it's
a
collaboration
and
you
need
the
staff
or
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
build
those
Partnerships,
then
the
funding
should
go
to
those
support
services
so
that
one
officers
are
feeling
safe
with
their
own
mental
health
and
self-care,
but
also
I
do
feel
that
it's
not
always
a
clinician
responding
to
the
cases.
B
I
think
that
we
need
officers.
That
also
has
to
respond
to
the
cases,
but
really
wanted
to
understand
what
those
procedures
are
and
in
it's
intense,
sometimes
there's
been,
for
example,
a
quick
story.
B
I
had
a
couple
of
Foster
daughters
and
they
were
in
severe
situations
and
when
there's
no
time
like
between
the
time
the
police
arrives
and
the
clinician
and
best
team
and
police
and
everybody
else
like
you,
just
everything
happens
so
quickly.
And
so
it's
easy
for
us
to
sit
here
and
say.
Oh,
this
is
what's
supposed
to
happen,
but
in
the
actual
situation
in
the
clinician
shoes
and
as
a
foster
parent
right
in
the
family
standpoint,
I
do
understand
that
we
have
some
work
to
do.
B
To
figure
that
out,
because
everyone's
safety
is
at
risk,
so
I
I
hope
you
can
appreciate
like
the
last
minute
sort
of
questions,
because
when
I
do
look
at
the
numbers,
the
recommendations
that
I
may
make,
probably
first
week
of
June
or
last
week
of
May
in
terms
of
amendments
or
anything
like
that,
I
would
like
to
bring
that
to
my
Council
colleagues
so
that
they
can
understand,
especially
for
the
ones
that
are
not
here,
so
that
they
can
understand
when
they
are
making
suggestions
about
what
to
do
with
the
budget
recommendations.
B
Ultimately,
they
are
my
recommendations
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
more
thoughtful
in
terms
of
understanding
how
you're
executing
these
Services
ones
that
in
particularly
the
community,
is
very
interested
in
I'd.
T
Also
like
to
to
add
that
they,
the
clinicians,
also
follow
up.
So
it's
not
just
in
that
in
the
immediacy
of
a
call
they're
also
able
to
follow
up
with
the
individual
or
the
family
and
a
system
in
accessing
services.
So
I
think
that
that's
an
important
piece
too.
So
even
in
the
night,
you
know
in
the
overnight
hours,
if
no
one's
there
to
respond
with
an
officer
they're
able
to
make
those
referrals
and
sure
that
those
individuals
have
access
to
services.
B
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
I
just
think
you
don't
have
enough
clinicians
and
I
also
think
that
the
the
additional
services
that
you
come
outside
of
the
police
department
is
not
necessarily
doing
everything
that
they
should
be
doing
a
lot
of
these
sort
of
mental
health.
Everyone
is
sort
of
anxiety
induced
at
this
point
like
covet,
is
highly
underestimated.
B
I
think
and
folks
are
dealing
with
a
lot
of
just
anxiety
and
issues,
these
so-called
mental
health,
everyone's
like
mental
health,
mental
health,
mental
health,
wraparound
Services,
because
we
just
throw
these
jargons
around,
but
the
a
lot
of
these
Services,
that's
just
not
being
executed
properly.
B
So
it's
the
result
is
not
just
saying
mental
health,
but
looking
at
quality
control
in
terms
of
how
we're
executing
them,
because
some
of
these
clinicians
are
going
into
people's
homes
and
spending
15
minutes
with
kids
and
harshly
diagnosing
or
misdiagnosing,
and
then
there's
lack
of
follow-up
and
then
back
into
the
system,
and
so
it's
a
pipeline
that
I
think
needs
to
be
looked
at
outside
of
your
scope,
but
just
thought
I'd
share
that
and
say
it's
it's
it's
just
so
many
systems
that
are
broken
right
like
we
can
talk
about
DCF
all
day.
B
B
If
you
don't
have
any
final
comments
for
in
in
closing
I.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
patient
with
this
process.
We
do
not
have
another
hearing
scheduled
counselors
may
ask
for
you
to
send
a
represent
a
representative,
just
a
financial
person.
Specifically,
that
can
speak
to
programming
to
attend
our
working
session.
We
encourage
you
to
attend
any
other
hearing
that
you've
been
invited
to.
Obviously
it's
how
you're
working
with
the
other
departments
and
any
public
testimony
you've
been
invited
to.
We
are
looking
forward
to
that
conversation
as
well.
G
B
B
It's
not
very
comfortable
for
those
of
you
up
there.
Just
so
you
know
these
seats
over
here
are
much
more
comfortable
on
this
side,
so
we're
good
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
much
this
hearing
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Thank.