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From YouTube: Boston Digital Equity Study - City Kickoff - 10/6/2021
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Boston Digital Equity Study - City Kickoff - 10/6/2021
A
Sorry
that
guy
right
in
the
middle
of
me,
hang
on
and
david
shares
with
the
city
of
boston,
a
local
government
flare.
He
is
a
long
time,
commissioner,
and
a
former
chair
and
vice
chair
of
massachusetts,
second
largest
public
power
utility,
the
municipal
light
plant
of
reading
mass.
For
those
of
you
who
aren't
aware
any
municipal
broadband
project
in
the
state
of
massachusetts
requires
an
mlp
in
order
to
get
launched
and
manning.
The
controls
today
is
mela
goodrich,
civic
technology.
A
Welcome
to
all
of
you,
just
a
one.
Little
quick
housekeeping
measure
we're
going
to
go.
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
couple
of
setup,
slides
very,
very
quickly:
don't
blink
they'll
be
over.
If
you
have
questions
you
can
drop
them
in
the
chat.
We've
also
set
aside
some
time
at
the
close.
Today's
presentation
next
slide.
A
Great,
so
I
think
this
will
be
familiar
to
everyone
here.
This
slide
sort
of
sometimes
dan
noyes
over
at
tech
goes
home
before
refers
to
the
three-legged
stool
of
digital
equity.
In
some
cases
it's
kind
of
a
four-legged
stool
choice
and
competition
is
the
first
at
least
for
government
responsibility.
A
We
strive
to
bring
in
competition
in
order
to
improve
service
and
hopefully
to
reduce
cost.
That
does
not
always
work
that
was
sort
of
the
federal
model
that
we
are
forced
with.
We,
we
are
we're
stuck
with
it,
but
it
isn't
necessarily
always
successful,
but
you
can
look
these
over
at
any
time
at
your
leisure.
I
wanted
to
just
briefly
touch
on
some
definitions
that
were
borrowed
from
the
national
digital
inclusion
alliance.
By
the
way,
this
is
national
digital
inclusion
week
we're
celebrating
this
week
and
we're
celebrating
in
boston
by
launching
this
project.
A
We
also
have
a
city
network
that
we
use
for
municipal
use,
that
city
network
borrows
assets
from
the
other
broadband
providers,
as
well
as
the
lease
with
crown
castle
as
such
was
we're
restricted
from
using
that
for
commercial
purposes,
so
we
use
it
for
city
services,
public
safety,
schools,
libraries
and
we
give
away
access
through
wicked
free
wi-fi,
which
is
a
public
convenience.
A
A
A
In
the
next
one,
thank
you
sorry,
I'm
looking
at
two
screens
here
it
isn't
helping
anyone.
I
just
wanted
to
touch
base
briefly
here
and
remind
folks
that
we
have
durian
covid,
had
a
couple
of
studies
and
evaluations
of
needs
in
boston.
One
was
done
by
commissioner
emily
shea's
age,
strong
group.
The
results
of
that
are
on
the
slide.
I
won't
dive
too
much
into
it,
but
you
can
see
that
age
strong
actually
had
a
very
clever
way
of
doing
this.
A
A
And
this
is
just
touching
very
briefly,
I
think
mark
is
on
the
call,
as
well
as
andy
hogan,
two
of
the
people
we
work
very
closely
with
over
at
the
boston
schools.
I
think
everyone
is
aware
of
all
the
work
that
was
done
through
the
schools
to
connect
families.
I
think
at
a
high
point
we
may
have.
A
We
may
have
connected
about
six
or
seven
thousand
school
age,
families
with
hot
spots
and
other
forms
of
connect
connection
to
the
internet,
and
I
think
currently,
the
schools
are
very
busy
provisioning
about
2
000
units
of
internet
essentials,
to
whichever
families
they
can
sign
up
through
comcast
next
slide.
Please.
A
Thanks
and
I
know
that
the
boston
housing
authority
is
on
the
call
hi
lydia
hi,
joel
bha
has
been
very
active
on
the
digital
equity
inclusion
front,
the
fly
of
their
residents.
They
have
worked
with
their
community
partners,
they
surveyed
folks,
and
they
found
kind
of
alarming
issues
here
they
see
that
one
in
three
seniors
lack
broadband
at
home,
as
well
as
one
in
three
residents
whose
first
language
is
spanish.
A
They
also
like.
So
this
is
a
problem
that
they
are
quickly
facing.
I
know
that
bha
has
a
couple
of
projects
in
the
work.
One
is
with
starry
another
one
is
through,
I
believe,
an
arpa
grant.
We
wish
him
the
best
of
luck
and
we
hope
to
hear
more
about
that
soon,
and
here
I
just
want
to
touch
base
on
some
of
the
other
partners
that
we've
worked
with
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
two
years
during
coven.
A
I
guess
it's
been
a
year
and
a
half
and
have
been
invaluable
help
in
terms
of
connecting
us
with
citizens
indeed,
and
giving
us
guidance
and
direction
that
is
yusuf
mayor's
office
of
immigrant
advancement.
A
A
A
A
B
Thank
you
mike
good
morning,
everyone,
it's
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
with
you,
and
it
is
always
a
pleasure
to
work
with
the
city
of
boston.
Congratulations
to
all
of
you
from
several
states
away
on
last
night's
win.
Mila!
Can
I
have
the
next
slide
please
what
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
now
is
just
a
brief
summary
of
what
we
will
be
doing
in
the
analysis
that
is
going
to
take
place
in
the
next
few
months.
B
What
we'll
be
doing,
how
it
is
framed,
the
kinds
of
questions
we'll
be
asking
the
kinds
of
data
we
will
be
collecting
and
the
types
of
recommendations
we'll
be
making,
but
generally
to
summarize,
what
we'll
be
doing
is
that
we'll
be
trying
to
understand
the
existing
internet
infrastructure
and
service
environment,
including
pricing
and
we'll
use
a
range
of
different
data
collection
mechanisms
to
do
that?
We're
going
to
try
to
understand
and
summarize
the
existing
environment
with
regard
to
digital
equity
and
inclusion
programs?
B
So
what
does
the
city
already
have
going
on
and
what
do
what
kinds
of
partnerships
does
it
have
in
place
with
a
non-profit
community?
And
so
on?
Might
just
summarize
some
of
that
and
we'll
be
then
making
recommendations
based
on
all
of
the
data
and
analysis
collected
for
the
creation
of
new
programs
or
additional
resources
necessary
and
scaling
up
of
existing
programs.
B
We'll
also
do
this
in
light
of
excuse
me
best
practices
and
experience
from
around
the
country
in
some
of
your
peer
cities
that
are
also
working
areas,
although
I
will
point
out,
as
an
aside,
excuse
me
I'll
point
out
as
an
aside
that
boston
has
very
much
been
a
pioneer
and
an
innovator
in
the
space
and
very
few
cities
I
think,
are
quite
as
far
along
in
developing
programs
as
well
as
data
as
you
are.
B
So.
The
the
big
picture
here
is
understanding
the
in
current
and
environment
and
then
understanding
what
it
will
take
from
a
resource
and
effort
standpoint
to
change
that
environment
and
impact
it
for
the
best
amina.
Can
I
have
the
next
slide.
Please
we're
looking
across
the
full
range
of
concerns
that
arise
with
regard
to
broadband
internet
there's.
The
first
issue
is
accessibility:
where
is
broadband
actually
available,
and
where
is
it
not?
Are
there
places
where
there
is
no
service
available
at
all
and
what
might
be
the
reasons
for
that?
B
How
are
investment
patterns
on
the
private
sector
side
changing
and
shaping
what
is
happening
in
your
various
neighborhoods?
Where
is
competition
emerging
and
where
is
it
not
and
most
importantly,
how
do
we
understand
and
quantify
the
gaps
to
the
greatest
degree
possible
so
that
you
understand
what
it'll
take
to
to
fill
those
gaps
now,
putting
aside
the
actual
availability
and
the
infrastructure,
then
looking
at
what
the
services
are,
what
is
actually
available
to
consumers
and
how
does
that
vary
across
the
city?
B
So
we'll
look
across
the
full
range
of
existing
inclusion
and
equity
programs,
we'll
analyze
them
in
light
of
best
practices
with
regard
to
your
peer
communities
and
then
benchmark
them
and
make
some
recommendations
around
that,
including
what
the
the
cost
of
new
and
expanded
programs
might
be
so
that
you
have
some
tangible,
concrete
and
actionable
recommendations.
B
We're
also
looking
with
some
detail
at
the
current
internet
environment
through
a
range
of
different
data
collection
mechanisms,
both
qualitative
and
quantitative.
We
will
be
working
through
interviews
with
the
providers
data
that
we
collect
independently
through
a
variety
of
different
test
mechanisms
in
the
home
and
online,
as
well
as
publicly
available
government
data
at
the
federal
level
in
particular,
and
whatever
the
state
may
have
to
analyze,
where
there
is
infrastructure
and
where
there
are
services.
B
I
think
I
just
saw
a
question
come
through
the
chat
asking
about
whether
there
would
be
an
analysis
of
these
kinds
of
considerations
in
light
of
demographics
as
well,
and
what
we
plan
to
do
with
regard
to
demographics
is
overlay.
The
data
we
find
about
existing
infrastructure
services
and
pricing
with
census
data,
so
that
we
are
understanding
if
and
where
there
are.
B
There
is
alignment
or
not
are
there
patterns
that
align
with
demographics?
I
I
will
speak
also,
I
think
the
questions
regarding
ensuring
representativeness
across
the
city
and
how
we're
analyzing
isp
claims
about
speeds.
This
is
very
much
why
we
want
to
collect
primary
data
rather
than
using
only
existing
data
sets.
B
Whatever
the
in-home
connection
is,
or
the
speed
of
the
laptop
or
device
that
is
being
used,
online
speed
tests
are
a
very
useful
tool
in
very
large
numbers
because
they
can
show
us
patterns
and
they
they
show
some
aggregated
patterns,
but
because
they
are
measuring
speeds
from
a
particular
device
they're,
not
necessarily
showing
us
exactly
what
is
being
delivered
to
the
home.
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
doing
a
testing
of
the
online
speeds
effectively
by
doing
in-home
speed
tests.
B
Can
I
have
the
next
slide?
I
want
to
be
sure
we
are
answering
all
the
questions,
but
I
think
I'll
come
back
to
them
after
I
finish
the
presentation
so
that
I'm
not
doing
it
ad
hoc,
but
I
can
do
it
more
comprehensively
and
make
sure
that
we
are
addressing
your
questions.
B
At
the
same
time,
we
are
also
going
to
develop
a
system
level
cost
estimate
for
what
a
comprehensive
city-owned
fiber
to
the
premises
network
would
cost
to
build,
and
the
criticality
of
this
is
understanding
the
level
of
investment
that
would
be
necessary
to
undertake
a
fiber
to
the
home
effort.
I
you
know
I
can
say
more
on
that
topic,
but
effectively
it's
an
engineering
analysis
of
existing
conditions
cost
to
build
timeline
to
build,
and
so
on.
B
B
A
A
That's
an
interesting
question.
I
don't
know
which
set
of
promises
you're
discussing
there
were
two
sets
of
promises
during
covert
the
fcc,
essentially
forced
all
providers
to
make
a
commitment
that
they
would
deliver
service.
They
would
deliver
a
minimum
speed.
They
would
not
shut
people
off
for
past
due
accounts.
What
else
was
in
the
joint?
Do
you
remember
what
else
was
in
the
corporate
commitment
that
was
made
and
accepted
by
pretty
much
all
of
the
providers
across
the
country?
It
was
not
perfect,
but
it
was
just
a
minimum
speed
rail.
A
A
Everyone
would
like
to
go
to
a
higher
level,
we're
not
there
yet,
and
one
of
the
things
that
hurts
a
city
like
boston
that
has
been
successful
in
making
sure
that
broadband
is
available.
Citywide,
what's
hurt
us
is
that
we
are
not
eligible
for
any
capital
funding
under
the
federal
dollars
that
are
available
in
the
airpa,
because
we've
already
met
the
minimum
thresholds.
A
I
don't
know
why
we
get
punished
for
having
having
done
well
for
the
last
few
years,
but
there
you
have
it.
Lydia
asked
a
question
from
the
bha.
A
deeper
dive
on
barriers
for
some
of
the
low-cost
options
might
be
useful
as
well.
Thanks,
lydia,
good
question
lydia,
I
know
as
well
as
emily
have
worked
very
well
on
the
emergency
broadband
benefit
which
we
see
on
this
slide.
A
I
think
there's
an
earlier
slide
as
well,
that
kind
of
breaks
down
who
is
eligible
and
how
this
is
an
extraordinarily
challenging
application
process
set
up
by
the
fcc.
It
looks
a
lot
like
the
old
lifeline
telephone
service
application
because,
because
they
had
that
in-house-
and
it
was
an
easy
adaptation
to
broadband,
but
the
problem
with
it
is
it's.
A
If
we
can
get
them
through
the
initial
phase,
this
we're
almost
100
sure
that
the
next
federal
funding
will
fund
this
for
three
to
four
more
years.
So
this
could
be
a
very
extensive
contribution.
Hopefully
more
will
come
later
we're
trying
to
think
of
ways
to
literally
help
people
walk
through
this
process.
It
is
confusing.
My
head
starts
to
spin.
When
I
look
at
the
application,
I
thought
I
saw
a
question
from
emily
here
too.
A
Emily
asked
the
question:
one
of
the
challenges
we've
heard
for
older
adults
is
understanding
what
okay.
So
it's
the
same
question
a
bit
and
how
to
access
them.
Elderly,
elderly
citizens,
senior
citizens
have
a
couple
of
different
options.
Rcn
and
comcast,
for
instance,
have
a
senior
option
available.
It
is
not
particularly
attractive
people.
Look
at
it
and
say
for
two
bucks
I'll
take
a
pass
thanks.
It
doesn't
quite
work
for
them.
However,
ebb
is
an
enormously
advantageous
program
for
seniors,
so
you
can
use
this
for
a
hotspot.
A
You
can
use
this
for
a
phone.
You
can
use
this
for
in-home
access.
Lastly,
the
internet
essentials
program
of
comcast
is
a
roughly
10
a
month
program
that
is
available
throughout
the
city.
It
is
needs
based.
Its
application
process
is
messy,
it's
complicated,
but
it
is
it's
not
as
bad
as
the
emergency
broadband
benefits.
So
I
don't
know
when
you're,
comparing
them
to
the
federal
government.
I
don't
know
if
that's
good
or
bad,
but
that's
that's
what
we
have
you
know
again.
I
think
we
are
going
to.
A
I
think
we're
going
to
be
working
well.
The
city
right
now
has
approximately
has
purchased
approximately
3
500
internet
essentials
packages
to
give
to
boston
families
in
need
we're
splitting
those
between
the
boston,
public
schools
and
tech
goes
home.
Tech
goes
home,
isn't
again
working
with
their
community
partners
to
deliver
them
wherever
they
can
to
people
who
graduate
through
their
training
program.
A
One
thing
I'd
like
to
mention
at
this
point,
and
it
may
have
been
the
emergency
broadband
benefit,
was
kind
of
off
to
a
slow
start
this
summer,
but
I
think
they
published
something
this
week.
That
said
they
we
have.
Six
million
people
subscribed
nationwide
to
the
emergency
broadband
benefit
and
drawing
that
mail.
I
was
able
to
take
a
quick
peek.
Yesterday,
boston's
subscriber
base
has
grown
over
the
last
month.
A
It
was
at
about
6
000
at
labor
day,
but
it's
at
about
8
500
right
now,
so
that
something
is
happening
out
there
to
get
2500
new
subscriptions
in
last
in
the
month
of
september
alone
is
good
news.
That
means
that
either
the
word
is
getting
out
or
people
have
figured
out
how
to
navigate
the
system,
we're
hoping
that
continues.
A
One
of
the
earlier
questions
may
have
touched
based
briefly
on
the
home
speed
test.
This
is
one
of
the
things.
The
reason
I
have
that
on
that
slide
is
we
may
reach
out
to
folks
who
are
on
this
call
and
others
who
are
close
to
us.
The
home
speed
test
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
sampling
across
all
of
boston's
neighborhoods.
The
way
the
way
broadband
service
gets
delivered.
A
They,
the
delivery,
is
often
known
down
at
the
neighborhood
level,
and
we
want
to
sample
as
many
of
them
as
we
can
at
the
say,
the
outskirts
of
the
city.
If
you
will,
at
the
back
at
the
at
the
at
the
end
points
of
the
geographic
area,
that's
like
up
against
the
poncett
river
or
on
the
boundaries
with
brookline
we're
going
to
reach
out
to
those
areas,
so
we
may
be
sending
out
a
quick
google
form
in
the
next
week
or
two
asking
people
to
volunteer
for
this
test.
A
I
don't
know
david
talbot
is
on
the
line.
He
may
be
able
to
give
a
little
bit
of
an
overview
here
of
how
the
test
will
work,
but
ideally
we're
looking
for
you.
Folks,
who
are
are
in
our
administration,
who
could
try
this
test
at
home
and
give
us
a
good,
accurate,
read.
I
know
that
there
were
challenges
and
problems
in
the
cambridge
application.
A
One
of
the
problems-
and
it
often
happens
when
we
deal
with
broadband
issues-
is
that
people
are
challenged
and
it's
very
hard
to
communicate
with
them.
You
may
set
somebody
up
with
a
test
in
their
home,
but
then
follow
up
communication
with
them
say
by
telephone.
A
You
miss
and
a
few
other
things,
so
we're
hoping
that
if
we
can
get
some
folks
who
are
in
city
government
to
engage
in
this
process
willingly
and
we
could,
we
can
kind
of
proportionally
distribute
them
geographically
across
the
city,
we're
hoping
that
we'll
have
good
response
from
them
that
we
can
use
their
city,
email
address
or
their
home
email
address
or
text
them
and
get
some
quick
responses
to
any
questions
or
evaluations
we
need
david.
Would
you
like
to
add
to
that.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
mike
and
and
hello
everybody
and
thank
you
for
joining
today.
I
think,
with
respect
to
both
the
in
in-home
testing
and
the
web-based
testing
we're
going
to
set
up
a
a
dedicated
engineering,
startup
call
for
for
that
part
of
our
study,
because
there
are
many
good
questions
and
it's
important
that
we
get
this
off
on
the
right
foot,
especially
in
soliciting
sites
to
test
and
vetting
those
sites,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
to
mike's
point.
They
are
occurring.
D
You
know,
sort
of
sprinkled
throughout
the
city
and
in
in
the
edge
neighborhoods
and
in
the
re
representative
areas
of
all
neighborhoods.
So
I
think
we
need
to
devote
a
separate
call
just
to
starting
up
that
whole
that
whole
process.
If
that's
my
that's
the
high
level
start
for
today,
I
can
I'm
looking
at
the
chat
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
we
could
discuss,
and
I
leave
it
to
mike
to
how
much
more
you
want
to
go
into
on
this
call.
D
A
And
virginia
and
d.c
hello,
virginia
virginia
asked
the
question
when
the
study
will
be
complete.
I
think
we
may
joanne
I'll
defer
to
you
on
this,
but
I
think
we're
envisioning
kind
of
a
rolling
report
on
this,
because
this
is
actually
a
multi-faceted
study.
A
B
Yeah,
I
think
that's
exactly
right,
mike
we
are
likely
to,
within
a
couple
of
months,
start
presenting
preliminary
findings
in
terms
of
infrastructure,
services
and
pricing
based
on
the
data
collection
that
we
do
as
well
as
shortly
after
that.
Some
of
the
findings
on
the
engineering
side
about
the
cost
of
the
fiber
of
the
home
network.
A
Thanks
lydia
asked
a
question
about
testing
for
speeds.
I
don't
know.
Maybe
david
could
answer
that
question.
I
think
we're
testing
for
a
floor,
a
minimum
delivery
and
I,
but
I
could
be
mistaken
and
thalia
asked
a
question
about
accessibility,
whether
there
are
barriers
to
getting
service
contact
with
the
providers
and
any
obstacles
such
as
payment
methods
documentation.
A
Now
I
think
you
may
be
speaking
about
the
internet,
essentials
program
and
or
the
emergency
broadband
program.
Both
of
them
do
have
some
barriers
to
them.
That's
why
I
think
it's
it's
sort
of
incumbent
on
us,
as
the
city
and
and
with
our
community
partners,
to
help
people
get
through
these.
If
they're,
it's
it's
the
nature
of
what
the
it's
the
nature
of
what
the
fcc
set
up.
We
can't
really
control
it.
The
same
is
true
from
comcast.
A
D
I
would
just
add
mike
that,
when
these
testing,
when
the
in-home
testing
starts,
there's
going
to
be
an
information
request
given
to
that
resident,
because
we
want
to
understand
certainly
what
they're
subscribing
to
if,
if
it
happens
to
be
internet
essentials,
we
want
to
know
that
which
speaker
are
they
subscribing
to.
We
want
to
know
what
what
type
of
router
they
have,
because
it
does
affect
what
the
even
though
we're
plugging
into
the
router
it
does
affect
the
results
it
can.
D
We
want
to
know
their
level
of
use
in
the
house
and
other
things,
so
there's
going
to
be
we're
going
to
want
to
know
all
those
things,
so
we
can
understand
what
it
is
we're
looking
at,
but
again
we
should.
We
need
to
have
a
separate
startup
call
to
get
all
those
all
those
questions
aired
and
and
and
started
off
on
the
right
foot.
A
D
Yeah
so
and
again
deferring
the
the
full
answer
to
that
to
a
later
date.
The
the
web-based
speed
tests
should
be
up
for,
I
think
we
said
a
year
and
the
in-home.
We
could
do
it
that
long
or
we
could
discuss
whether
it
needs
to
be
as
long
as
a
year,
because
it
is,
it
is
asking
a
lot
of
people
and
there
could
be
some
drop
off
of
of
willingness
to
participate
or
other
issues
so
we'll
we
can
resolve
all
that.
D
But
yes,
it's
going
to
be
over
a
long
period
of
time,
so
we
can
so
the
long
period
of
time
on
the
web-based
enables
you
to
get
more
data
points
from
more
people
who
are
might
just
do
one
test,
but
at
least
you
have
a
data
point
from
somewhere
and
the
in
home.
It's
it's
at
the
same
site
and
it's
it's
doing
a
test
hourly
all
the
time.
D
So
you
have
data
across
the
day
across
the
night
weekends
holidays
and
you
can
see
how
it
might
might
differ,
and-
and
just
so
everybody
knows-
I
mean
the
service
you
get.
If
you
look
at
it,
it's
up
to
50
megabits
or
up
to
100
megabits
and
there's
not
a
service
level
agreement
at
the
consumer
level,
and
we
all
experience
when
it's
saturday
night
and
it's
putting
into
netflix.
Suddenly
it's
pixelating
or
dropping
out
it's
it's
that
it
is
the
nature
of
the
consumer
broadband
marketplace
that
it's
that
it
it's
bursty
and
it's
it's.
D
It
varies
by
demand,
there's
a
certain
amount
of
bandwidth
per
circuit
and
depending
on
demand
of
the
individual
homes,
it
varies
per
home.
You
know
everywhere.
A
So
very
good,
you
know,
as
david
was
talking
just
one
thing.
I
think
everybody
on
this
call
knows
that.
But
if
not
the
city's
role
around
broadband
and
cable
is
this
around
cable
we
can,
we
can
license
the
cable
provider
and
we
have
some
federal
rules
that
allow
us
to
look
at
things
like
how
they
build
out
how
they
do
customer
service,
what
they
report
to
us
as
a
city
on
behalf
of
residents
who
have
their
service
on
broadband.
None
of
that
exists.
A
The
96
act
defined
all
of
this,
but
in
the
year
2002
and
joanne
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
I'm
thinking
it
was
michael
powell
was
chairman
of
the
fcc
and
there
was
something
called
the
cable
modem
ruling,
and
what
that
said
was
that
broadband
over
by
a
cable
service,
a
cable
modem,
is
not
subject
to
any
fcc
regulations.
They
can
pretty
much
do
whatever
they
want
that
ruined
us.
It
ruined
us
20
years
ago
and
we're
still
suffering
from
the
effects
of
that
today.
A
It
doesn't
stop
us
from
sort
of
trying
to
exercise
our
cable
authority
over
the
providers,
but
they
can
always
push
back
and
say:
hey,
that's
broadband!
You!
You
can't
be
in
our
space
on
broadband.
I
don't
think
that
rule
is
ever
going
to
get
changed.
I
think
it's
been
around
too
long
from
now,
but
I'd
be
willing
to
spend
some
money
to
get
it
changed.
Joanne.
You
have
anything
to
add
to
that.
You
know
this
is
one.
I
always
hop
on.
B
Yeah
well
you're
100,
right
mike.
I
think
that
was
the
moment.
The
moment
at
which
cities
lost
the
ability
to
directly
shape
the
broadband
data
market
to
the
benefit
of
the
public
and
and
what
that
means
is
that
the
regulatory
tools
that
we
customarily
think
of
as
being
useful
in
this
context,
are
simply
not
available
for
purposes
of
the
broadband
internet.
B
And
that
is
the
the
set
of
tools
that
is
available
to
cities.
C
I
I
I
think
that
I
just
for
everybody
here,
wanted
to
make
sure
that
folks
understand
that
that
boston
is
aggressively
pushing
in
dc
both
in
the
congress
before
treasury
and
at
the
fcc
on
a
number
of
these
issues,
and
while
I
think
that
you
were
right
to
take
the
most
conservative
point
of
view,
I
I
think
it
would
be
a
disservice
to
your
and
the
mayor
and
the
council's
advocacy
that
it's
been
going
on
on
a
number
of
the
issues.
C
For
instance,
the
city
of
boston
has
asked
treasury
to
clarify
that
the
25
3
limitation
of
the
arp
of
money
with
respect
to
construction
only
applies
under
d.
That
is
the
residual
investment
in
broadband
that's
available
under
arpa,
but
that
arpa
investments
in
broadband
for
purposes
of
addressing
kovic
challenges
or
discrepancies,
or
deviations
or
or
difficulties
for
different
communities
should
not
be
impacted
by
25,
3
and
boston
filed
those
comments
and
a
number
of
folks
around
the
country
followed.
We've
never
gotten
a
final
answer,
but
the
treasury's
rules
are
still
interim
interim
final
rules.
C
That
means
that
they're
effective
immediately,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
they
can't
change,
and
we
hope
that
that
that
folks
are
aware
of
boston's
advocacy
on
that
area
and
you
can
find
our
filing
on
the
treasury's
web
page,
and
we
were
very
happy
that
the
national
league
of
cities
took
it
and
then
shared
it
with
others
and
encouraged
others
to
to
to
support
us.
C
I
think
the
the
other
point
is
that
we're
kind
of
spoiled
in
boston
that
our
two
senators
are
are
really
the
head
of
the
spear
or
the
tip
of
the
spear
with
respect
to
the
net
neutrality
issue.
That
is
the
issue
that
you
talked
about
before
the
classic
definitional
clarified.
The
definition
of
what
an
internet
or
an
isp
service
is
in
that
it's
an
interstate
information
service
and
if
you
parse
those
two
words,
interstate
means
state
and
local
governments
need
not
apply.
C
This
is
the
exclusive
domain
of
the
federal
government
and
then
information
service,
meaning
that
it's
neither
title
ii,
common
carrier
title
three,
a
wireless
or
broadcast
service
or
title
vi
that
is
a
cable
service
and
and
and
you
know,
senators,
markey
and
warren
have
long
been
leading
the
challenge
to
to
redefine
that
service,
and
we
think
that
at
some
point,
if
there
is
a
a
fully
fully
populated
fcc,
that
will
be
one
of
the
lead
issues
and
it
will
give
us
an
opportunity.
C
The
last
thing
is
that
that
I
wanted
to
make
clear
is:
is
whether
it's
an
interstate
information
service
or
it's?
You
know,
you
know
magic,
it's
still
a
it's
still
a
service
or
a
good,
that's
being
sold
in
the
city
of
boston
and
therefore
we
do
have
authority.
C
Both
we
in
the
commonwealth
have
the
authority
under
private
attorney,
general
and
and
and
and
and
trust
and
fraud,
statutes
to
say
that
if
people
are
promising
and
contracting
out
to
provide
a
certain
speed,
which
is
greater
than
25,
3
and
they're,
not
delivering
on
that,
then
there
are
opportunities
to
enforce
those
types
of
standards
on
traditional
contract
law
or
fraud,
law
or
or
representation
law
and
and
boston
has
not
surrendered
any
of
those
opportunities.
C
A
No
thank
you
jerry.
I
appreciate
you
doing
that
by
the
way
I
did
not
introduce
jerry.
I
apologize
for
that.
Jerry
litter
is
a
partner
in
best
passing
krieger,
and
he
is
our
outside
counsel
in
dc
for
regulatory
work,
with
congress
with
the
fcc,
as
well
as
discussions
that
might
be
happening
on
capitol
hill.
Thank
you,
jerry
and,
and
jerry
right
now
is
working
on
an
issue.
That's
important
to
boston's,
competitive
landscape,
but
people
seldom
understand,
and
that
is
what's
called
the
mte
access
docket.
A
A
The
fcc
is
never
clear
about
what
we
call
inside
wiring
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
about
comp,
competition
inside
a
building
and
they've
reopened,
something
that
we
already
filed
in
four
years
ago
and
jerry.
Maybe
you
want
to
briefly
touch
on
this,
because
I
think
that
this
is
a
timely
discussion
in
a
city
like
boston,
where
more
than
half
of
our
housing
is
mdus.
C
Right
right
so
so
to
start
with
mdu
it's
a
multi-dwelling
unit
or
an
mte,
a
multi-tenant
environment.
C
Yeah,
no,
no
you're
playing
washington
alphabet
soup,
I'm
proud
of
you
mike
and,
and
so
the
question
is
what
rights
or
what
limitations?
Can
the
fcc
and
or
state
local
government
apply
when
there
are
contractual
relationships
between
a
provider
and
the
building
owner
and
by
the
building
owner?
That
could
be
the
homeowners
association
that
could
be
a
co-op
entity,
whatever
the
case
may
be.
But
the
question
is:
are
there
practices
that
are
taking
place
today
that
limit
competitive
choice?
C
And
so
you
you
there?
You
should
know-
or
you
probably
have
heard,
that
in
the
early
2000s
in
the
auths,
the
fcc
issued
a
number
of
orders
that
barred
exclusive
access
agreements
by
cable
operators
and
then
by
telephone
providers
and
and
the
fcc
made
it
clear
that
they
would
enforce
these
limitations
against
the
provider,
not
the
landlord,
because
the
landlord
was
not
subject
to
the
jurisdiction
of
the
fcc,
but
the
people
holding
licenses
from
the
fcc
could
be.
It
could
be
enforced
against
them
and
the
way
the
marketplace
works.
C
There
are
extraordinarily
smart
people
that
work
for
these
providers
and
they
looked
at
their
law
and
they
sought
to
parse
it.
So
an
exclusive
access
agreement
means
that
I
can't
say-
or
I
can't
enforce,
I'm
gonna
come
in
and
I'm
gonna
wire
the
building
and
you
can't
let
anyone
else
come
to
the
building.
That's
one
of
my
conditions
right.
So
they
went
from
that
condition
to
then
entering
into
two
different
types
of
agreements.
C
The
second
type
of
exclusive
agreement
that
that
was
created
was
an
exclusive
wiring
agreement
and
what
it
said
is
basically
we
understand
that
we
cannot
bar
a
second
provider
from
coming
into
the
building
right
you,
the
the
property
owner,
can
do
that,
but
we
can't
enforce
that
against
you.
We
can't
do
that,
but
what
we
would
like
is.
C
It
was.
This
issue
was
raised
a
couple
of
years
ago,
when
the
city
of
san
francisco
created
an
ordinance
that
said:
hey,
you
can't
enforce
exclusive
wiring
agreements
in
this
city.
You
have
to
open
them
up,
and-
and
so
it's
now
back
and
the
commission
is
asking
a
couple
things
you
know-
are
exclusive
marketing
agreements,
bad
for
the
residents
or
are
there
benefits
that
they
need
to
so
on
on
balance?
Are
they
okay
or
should
they
be
banned?
And
the
second
is
the
exclusive
wiring
agreements?
C
Are
they
good
or
should
they
be
a
barred
as
as
as
well?
The
cable
industry
has
already
been
in
to
see
the
fcc
and,
and
they
have
said,
exclusive
marketing
agreements
do
have
benefits
for
tenants
and
they
ought
to
be
left
alone.
C
Exclusive
wiring
agreements
are
are
needed
both
under
the
law
and
under
engineering,
and
this
is
where
joanne
and
david
can
tell
us
whether
they're
fibbing,
but
their
their
point
is,
is
that
two
different
isps
cannot
occupy
the
same
wiring.
At
the
same
time.
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
That's
the
assertion
that's
being
made
by
by
the
cable
industry
and
then
the
third
thing
that
they
say
and
again
this
is
a
common
refrain
is
that
is
anything
that
you
apply
to
us.
The
cable
operator
or
anything
that
you
apply
to.
C
So
if,
if
your,
you
know
name
your
your
your
isp
of
the
day-
and
I
don't
want
to
highlight
anybody,
but
they,
if
they're,
not
they
franchise,
cable
operator
or
they're,
not
a
common
carrier
and
they're
wiring
your
building,
whether
they're
starting
on
the
roof
or
they're
starting
in
the
basement,
you
know,
should
their
relationships
should
their
contracts
be
be
modified
or
or
or
or
or
reviewed
and
subject
to
the
same
types
of
terms
and
limitations.
C
And
the
cable
industry
says
yes,
they
should
that
you
know
we
should
apply
these
things
across
the
board,
and
so
the
the
city
of
boston
will
continue
to
be
active
in
this
type
of
docket.
To
encourage
the
commission
to
write
the
rules
in
such
a
way
that
that
tenants
have
the
greatest
access
and
that
barriers
to
entry,
whether
it
be
at
the
national
level,
the
local
level
or
at
the
building
level
I'll
be
eliminated
to
the
greatest
extent
that
they
possibly
can
is
that
okay,
mike,
is
exactly
done.
Oh.
A
That's
great,
thank
you.
That's
very
helpful,
appreciate
it
and
I
think
we
are
coming
up
to
10
minutes
of
the
hour
we're
going
to
give
everybody
10
minutes
out
of
their
hour
back,
so
they
think
were
very
gracious
hosts
and
let
them
out
a
little
bit
early.
I
want
to
thank
joanne
karen
david
and
mayla
for
today's
presentation.
We're
going
to
be
in
touch
with
all
of
you
very
soon,
and
hopefully
some
regular
communication.
So
you
know
how
the
progress
of
these,
I
really
think
of
it
as
three
studies.
A
If
proceeding,
please
stay
engaged
and
we
will
reach
out
to
you
on
the
the
home
speed
test
sampling,
because
we're
gonna
need
your
help.
Lastly,
just
in
closing,
let's
celebrate
national
digital
inclusion
week
by
pushing
emergency
broadband
benefit
for
those
in
needs.
If
we're
at
8
500.
Now,
there's
no
reason
why
that
number
can't
get
doubled
in
the
city
over
the
next
month
or
two.