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From YouTube: Boston Cannabis Board Voting Hearing 3-21-23
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Boston Cannabis Board Voting Hearing 3-21-23
B
B
All
right
good
afternoon,
this
is
a
hearing
before
the
Boston
cannabis
board.
The
BCB
today
is
March
21st
2023.
Today's
hearing
is
to
be
a
conductive
pursuant
to
certain
temporary
limits
to
the
open
leading
law.
That
is
what
allows
us
to
meet.
Virtually
this
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
will
be
posted
to
the
city
of
Boston's
website
before
I
review.
Some
procedural
matters
I
will
introduce
chairwoman
Kathleen
Joyce.
C
B
Thank
you,
chairman
Joyce,
my
name
is
Jasmine
and
I
am
the
Boston
cannabis
board
manager.
We
are
also
joined
by
Allison
Quinn,
who
is
the
project
manager
for
the
BCB?
While
the
public
is
encouraged
to
attend,
there
will
be
no
additional
public
testimony
accepted
I
will
read
each
item
into
the
record
after
I
will
ask
for
comments
from
each
board.
Member
I
will
then
ask
if
there,
if
there
is
a
motion,
any
questions
on
emotion
and
then
we
will
vote
each
board.
B
Member
has
the
ability
to
grant
grant
with
conditions
defer,
reject
without
prejudice,
which
means
the
accident
can
return
at
any
time
with
an
application
at
the
same
location
or
reject
with
prejudice,
which
means
the
applicant
cannot
reapply
at
the
same
location
for
one
year.
Just
the
quick
housekeeping
matter.
Item
number
three
rooted
in
LLC
has
withdrawn
their
petition
for
a
corporate
name
change
at
this
time.
The
first
matter
we
have
the
applicant
is
core
empowerment,
LLC
dbac,
the
license
premises,
401a
Center,
Street,
Jamaica
Plain.
B
C
B
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
Smith
all
in
favor,
oh
Commissioners,
another
polls,
the
request
is
granted.
The
next
item
is
the
applicant
is
East
Boston
Bloom
LLC.
The
license
premise
is
71
Maverick
Square,
East
Boston,
the
licensed
it's
a
retail
recreational
Cannabis,
but
the
license
request
is
a
change
of
ownership
interest
and
to
use
DBA
full
team.
B
B
B
F
F
B
C
C
What
we
are
trying
to
figure
out
is
what
is
the
impact
if
any,
on
citing
additional
cannabis
establishments
within
a
half
a
mile
off
his
own,
almost
like
a
hyper
focus,
hypersaturation
focus
I
understand
that
may
not
be
any
sort
of
research
or
literature
that
focuses
specifically
on
that.
But
how
would
you
suggest
that
we,
as
the
board,
be
thinking
about
the
economic
impacts
of
citing
cannabis
establishments
within
such
close
proximity?.
F
F
First
looked
at
the
Substance
Abuse
and
Mental
Health
administration's
data
on
usage
rates
by
demographic,
mainly
age
groups,
and
then
I
looked
at
the
population
of
Boston
made
some
projections
on
the
number
of
cannabis
users
and
then
looked
at
the
number
of
retail
outlets
and
then
determined.
Is
there
saturation
supersaturation
or
not
enough?
In
addition
to
that,
I
did
in
a
market
analysis
of
the
supply
in
the
marketplace
and
how
that
influences
price
and
elicit
to
Legal
consumer
conversions.
F
In
some
markets
there
is
a
buffer
of
a
thousand
feet,
not
a
half
a
mile
or
a
mile
like
in,
is
being
proposed
to
Boston,
and
but
what
we've
found
is
that,
because
there's
a
lack
or
limited
Supply
relative
to
the
overall
market
prices
are,
although
they're
falling
they're
remaining
elevated
relative
to
the
illicit
or
non-regulated
Market.
What
this
is
doing
is
because
there's
a
lack
of
access
and
higher
prices,
it's
limiting
the
conversions
of
of
consumers
into
legal
space.
F
The
impact
of
this
is
that,
while
there's
an
emphasis
on
on
social
Equity
licensees
by
maintaining
higher
prices
and
less
access,
this
is
actually
detrimental
to
the
efforts
on
the
social
Equity
applicants.
It
makes
them
less
competitive
and,
as
a
result,
it
makes
it
more
difficult
for
them
to
sustain
their
operations
in
the
long
run
and
so
I'll
just
kind
of
pause.
There
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
questions.
E
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
point
that
we
only
had
a
few
weeks
work
on
this
as
you
as
commissioner
and
Beau
was
traveling
when
I
was
able
to
meet
with
him,
so
he
did
have
data
on
Massachusetts,
but
we
weren't
able
to
put
together.
He
wasn't
able
to
do
the
Boston
specific
analysis
until
very
recently,
and
so
I
sent
that
over
separately.
E
After
because
the
due
date
for
the
report
was
the
end
of
February
so
sent
that
over
to
Allison
Quinn,
the
project
manager,
I
believe
it
was
just
maybe
yesterday
or
the
day
before,
so
our
apologies
on
that.
But
just
given
the
the
late
you
know
the
quick
turnaround
and
that
Mr
Whitney
was
traveling
at
the
time.
He
actually
was
kind
enough
to
talk
to
me
from
Europe
to
get
the
report
in
on
time
for
the
Massachusetts
data.
E
F
Sure
so
I
kind
of
walked
through
the
methodology
previously,
but
basically,
what
we
looked
at
is
we
looked
at
the
total
number
of
consumers
that
is
projected
based
upon
the
percentage
of
usage
rates,
as
was
published
by
the
National
Institute
of
Health
or
the
Substance
Abuse
and
Mental
Health
Administration
reports,
and
they
put
out
annual
reports
on
usage
rates
in
general.
They
kind
of
under
call
the
percentage
of
usage
in
the
area,
but
it's
government
data,
and
so
you
know
I
tend
to
defer
to
that
data.
F
And
so
what
we
looked
at
is
the
number
of
consumers
versus
the
number
of
stores
and
then
compared
that
to
other
markets.
And
what
we
found
is
that
with
22
retail
outlets
in
Boston,
initially
I
thought
there
were
11.
But
it
appears
as
though
there's
22,
there's
still
there's
still
room
to
grow
in
terms
of
the
Boston
Market.
F
The
number
of
retail
outlets
relative
to
the
number
of
consumers
by
comparison
and
what
we
found
here
is
that
even
with
conservative
numbers
on
pasture
usage,
there's
one
store
for
every
6230
consumers
and
by
comparison
this
is
actually
a
higher
ratio,
meaning
that
there's
less
saturation
than
in
such
States
as
Michigan,
Colorado,
Oregon
and
elsewhere.
So,
while
there
is
a
concern
and
a
justifiable
concern
about
oversaturation,
I
am
not
quite
seeing
that
at
this
point
with
the
22
retail
outlets
in
Boston.
F
The
concern
is
the
average
revenue
per
retail
outlet,
and,
if
you,
if
you
over
saturate,
then
it
drives
down
the
average
revenue
per
retail
establishment
and
then
that
for
its
profitability,
and
it
makes
it
unsustainable
in
the
long
run.
So
in
that
disproportionately
impacts
the
social
Equity
applicants,
because
it
drives
them
out
and
forces
consolidation,
but
they're
like
I,
said:
there's
room
to
grow
and-
and
that's
just
based
upon
you
know-
per
capita
retail
outlets
per
capita.
F
D
F
F
A
So
my
my
question
and
I
I,
he
kind
of
answered
it,
but
so
you're
saying
it's.
The
market
saturation
is
detrimental
to
social
Equity
applicants.
But
if
a
non-social
equity
applicant
was
to
apply
in
the
same
location
was
the
same
thing
applied
to
them,
I
mean
it
looks
like
we're
only
talking
about
social
Equity
applicants
and
how
the
market
saturation
could
be
detrimental
to
them.
But
if
a
non-equity
applicant
was
to
apply
for
the
same,
if
we
were
in
the
same
situation,
is
it
still
as
detrimental
to
their
business
or
we.
A
I
understand
that
point,
but
so
the
way
I'm
with
hearing
this,
it
would
behoove
the
applicant
to
look
at
all
this
Market
saturation
before
they
apply
for
a
location
as
opposed
to
this
responsibility
and
I'm,
not
shirking
our
responsibility.
But
what
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say?
It's,
not
the
board's
fault
where
people
decide
to
place
their
businesses
and
if
a
applicant
deems
at
a
certain
location
might
be
beneficial
for
them.
Even
if
there
are
other
social
Equity
applicants
in
the
area,
I
I,
it
kind
of
seems
to
me
that
it's
it,
it
sounds.
F
B
C
That
number
is
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
yeah.
So
that
number
is
a
percentage
of
the
number
of
Package
Store
licenses
in
the
city,
so
it
will
probably
go
up
if
we
issue
more
Package
Store
licenses,
I,
don't
know
why
that
is.
But
okay,
we
tied
these
these
licenses
to
the
number
of
Package
Store
licenses.
G
C
D
F
G
F
Why
I
offered
to
to
do
a
more
in-depth
analysis
and-
and
you
know,
provide
guidance
on
on
licensure
because
see
it.
A
lot
of
this
rests
upon
the
conversion
of
consumers
into
legal
regulated
space,
and
so,
while
you
may
only
need
33
in
the
short
run,
there
may
be
a
requirement
for
more
as
there's
greater
participation
by
the
consumer
in
the
legal
space.
F
G
G
So
there
are
certain
neighborhoods
that
are
obviously
have
more
affordability
and
some
that
don't-
and
it's
similar
to
me
in
that
sense,
because
by
neighborhood
really
does
matter
in
terms
of
how
how
we're
thinking
about
regulating
and
how
we're
thinking
about
these
policies,
because
Boston
as
a
whole
is
so
diverse
in
terms
of
income
and
and
population,
and
all
that
so
I.
Imagine
that
the
downtown
Boston
area
would
be
you
know
for
a
retailer
would
want
to
be.
G
That
would
be
where
many
applicants
would
want
to
apply
so
I
guess
that
is
one
flag.
Is
that
for
this
commit
for
this
board
to
really
think
about
neighborhood
data
and
thinking
about
that
more
clearly,
because
that's
what
I'm
seeing
is
that
we
we
have
some
places
that,
obviously
we
want
to
spread
it
out.
G
We
want
to
spread
it
around,
but
to
commissioner
Holmes's
point:
we
don't
dictate
how
the
applicants
wear
their
locations
where
they
apply,
but
certainly
we're
the
ones
that
are
supposed
to
decide
where
they
go,
whether
they
get
a
license
and
then
I
do
just
want
a
flag
too.
That
we
are.
You
know
this
board.
Is
it's
hard
because
we're
trying
to
do
a
lot
of
different
things
with
this
board
we're
trying
to
support
social
Equity
applicants,
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
none
of
the
workers.
G
This
is
in
a
race
to
the
bottom,
for
this
industry,
we've
done
very
I,
thought
I.
Think
we've
done
a
good
job
at
trying
to
promote
good
jobs,
not
just
any
job
the
way
that
any
real
retail
jobs
end
up
being
with
Benefits
career
Pathways
training.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
this
board
and
I.
Think
some
of
it
is
at
odds
because
profitability
isn't
our
number
one?
G
G
I
mean
for
the
city,
my
for
the
city
and
the
role
that
I
think
the
government
plays
is
to
set
a
a
minimum
standard
and
a
floor,
and
to
not
have
it
be
a
race
to
the
bottom
and
actually
a
race
to
what
we're
seeing,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
see
social
Equity
applicants
going
against
other
social
Equity
applicants
and
not
being
successful.
Our
whole
point
of
this
board
is
to
actually
try
to
be
have
all
of
our
applicants
be
successful.
G
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much,
commissioner,
because
a
lot
of
what
you
just
talked
about
Bo
and
I
have
been
discussing
as
we
prepared
this
report.
We
really
needed
to
stick
to
the
outline
of
what
was
requested,
so
we
were
really
trying
to
find
anything
about
proximity
which
there
just
wasn't
anything
there
and
and
focused
on
Market
saturation.
But
we
talked
a
lot
about
supporting
local
businesses
and
social
Equity
applicants
and
and
how
lots
and
and
Bo
you
can.
E
So
no,
as
you
can
see
from
the
report,
we
I
just
couldn't
find
the
research
on
proximity,
but
but
every
time
I
spoke
to
someone,
they
said
you
know
I'm,
so
glad
Boston's
doing
this
or
while
Boston's
being
really
cutting
edge,
because
people
are
talking
about
this
and
saying
things
anecdotally,
but
no
one's
really
doing.
You
know
these
kinds
of
very
specific
studies
on
proximity.
So
that's
why
it
was
great
to
find
Beau
who's
out
there.
You
know
sort
of
on
the
front
lines
doing
this
work,
but
I
just
wanted
to.
E
You
know
say
that
I
feel
like
this
is
a
first
step,
whether
whether
it's
going,
whether
it's
myself
and
working
on
it
or
you,
you
know
you
have
bring
other
experts
in
I-
think
it's.
It
is
definitely
the
first
step
in
getting
to
the
bottom
of
a
lot
of
these,
as
you
said,
competing
interests
and
and
issues.
So
thank
you.
D
Jasmine
that
I
have
one
more
kind
of
follow-up
based
on
what
commission
number
said:
Mr
Whitney.
So
in
the
report
you
noted
about
cannabis
tourism
having
an
impact,
great
impact,
so
you
can
almost
think
of
Boston
and
segregated
from
the
you
know,
folks
who
are
downtown-
and
you
know
in
that
area
where
most
of
maybe
are
tourists
go
and
not
into
the
neighborhoods
that
made
they're
not
coming
into
Roxbury
or
deutsches
I
also
live
at
Dorchester
or
Mattapan,
or
something
like
that.
D
So
would
you
as
a
conclusion,
say
that,
in
terms
of
folks
who
are
making
policy
as
we're
as
we're,
citing
these
places
we're
not
picking
them,
but
folks
are
fighting
them.
You
know
if
the
tourism
accounts
for
so
much
of
this
business,
the
Cannabis
tourism,
as
you
call
it
because
you
said
we
wouldn't
be
ranked
that
high
without
it
right.
That
would
mean
it
would
have
an
impact
in
the
neighborhoods
right,
because
folks
aren't
necessarily
coming
as
tourists
and
going
into
the
neighborhoods.
F
Yeah,
the
the
Boston
analysis
that
I
that
we
just
provided
to
the
commission
did
not
include
the
numbers
of
consumers
associated
with
cannabis,
tourism,
and
so
that
would
be
additive.
So
so
in
that
sense,
while
I
say
that
you
know
there
could
be
more
Stores,
you
know
those
stores
could
go
towards
the
support
of
that.
The
Canada
tourism,
as
we
call
it,
and
so
there's
there's
greater
opportunity
in
that
also
tends
to
drive
up
average
revenues
per
store,
which
you
know
has
the
snowball
effect
of
being
beneficial
and
more.
D
F
There's
a
large
debate
right
now
in
Oregon.
You
know:
we've
done
analyzes
of
the
Arizona
Market.
We
published
some
projections
on
the
impact
of
Tourism
from
the
Super
Bowl
in
Arizona,
for
example,
we
did
Nevada
and
Las
Vegas
as
well
we're
digging
into
the
New
York
Massachusetts
and
New
Jersey
markets,
and
so
this
is
an
emerging
area,
that
of
research
that
we,
as
a
economists,
are
looking
at
and
and
trying
to
develop
solid
methodologies.
You
know
in
our
approach
right.
D
Now
yeah
definitely-
and
you
know,
while
I
think
you
know,
commissioner
lombos
was
right.
You
know
profitability,
not
the
only
thing.
We
also
understand
that
it
takes
a
large
amount
of
resources
to
start
these
business
businesses
and
if
they're
in
neighborhoods
they're,
also
hiring
people
who
have
core
reason
are
coming
out
of
the
criminal
justice
system
and
the
commitment
around
all
those
things.
If
those
businesses
aren't
sustained,
then
we
have
many
people
out
of
jobs,
so
it
does
factor
for
me
in
a
sense
of
how
what
more
we
can
do.
D
C
You
know
in
our
area
and
in
Boston
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
focused
on
both
growth
and
saturation
at
the
same
time,
and
the
study
was
commissioned
to
inform
us
about
potential
saturation
in
Boston,
but
I'm,
not
quite
clear
as
to
what
the
conclusion
is
telling
us
to
do.
It
seems
to
be
telling
us
to
focus
on
licensing
and
getting
places
opened
and
that
kind
of
feels
like
a
hard
pivot.
So
are
you
saying
we
shouldn't
worry
about
saturation
now
and
if
that's
the
case,
how
do
we
get
there.
F
And
then,
if
it
wasn't,
then
further,
a
study
would
be
required
to
determine
what's
where's
that
equilibrium
or
where's
that
balance,
and
so
we
we
felt
like
we
answered
the
first
question,
but
there's
more
research
that
needs
to
be
conducted
in
order
to
determine.
What's
that
sweet
spot,
I
think
that
where,
from
my
perspective
on
at
the
national
level
and
at
the
state
level
where
policymakers
air
is
that
they
set
up
arbitrary
limits
and
then
they
don't
use
data
in
order
to
determine
those
limits
and
then
there's
unintended
consequences.
F
F
The
benefits
of
using
a
controlled
approach
is
that
you
can
set
up
the
infrastructure
via
the
legislature
or
via
other
you
know,
councils
and
the
like,
in
order
to
provide
support
for
those
very
same
Equity
applicants
so
that
you
give
them
micro,
loans
or
job
skills
and
training
and
mentorship,
and
so
that
gives
them
a
greater
opportunity
for
Success.
There's
larger
businesses
have,
in
general,
greater
business
aptitudes,
and
so
you
know,
by
providing
a
controlled
approach,
predictable,
licensure
then
you're
able
to
develop
that
support
infrastructure
for
the
minority
applicants
as
well.
B
C
B
F
B
The
first
African
is
DB
delivery,
Mass
LLC,
DBA
doobie,
the
proposed
license
premises,
One
Mount,
Vernon,
Street
Dorchester.
The
license
type
is
the
marijuana
delivery
operator
the
proposed
hours.
Our
operation
are
11
A.M
to
9
P.M
Monday
through
Thursday
and
9
A.M
to
9
00
p.m,
Friday
through
Sunday.
This
is
an
equity
applicant
and
there
is
a
buffer
zone.
Conflict
I'm,
chairman
Joyce,.
D
C
D
C
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
go
to
my
score
sheets
I
think
they
had
a
creative
diversity
inclusion
plan,
one
that
involved
not
just
people,
but
the
culture
and
I'm
sure
other
other
Commissioners
will
have
more
to
say
on
that.
They
scored
very
high
in
that
category,
as
well
as
in
every
other
category.
The
one
letter
of
opposition
that
was
received
cited
opposition
based
on
traffic
congestion
and
they
actually
did
commission
a
traffic
study
and
I
think
addressed
those
concerns.
C
D
A
The
traffic
study
was
very
helpful
because
I'm
familiar
with
that
corner
and
the
fact
that
all
of
their
the
trips
don't
really
interfere
with
the
ongoing
traffic.
In
fact,
like
chairwoman,
Joyce
said
that
the
park,
the
30s,
the
inside
parking
and
their
trucks
and
everything
won't
affect
on
street
parking
or
or
any
of
the
butters,
so
I
think
that
was
a
real
that
was
a
real
plus
so
great
application
and
I
think
that
the
traffic
study
really
topped
it
off.
G
I
agree
with
my
fellow
Commissioners
as
well
I
like
to
agree
on
these
things.
I
thought
it
was
good.
I
thought
that
it
was
creative.
I
would
say,
I
agree
with
commissioner
Smith
that
it
is
of
air
aspirational,
but
it's
creative
and
I
like
it
and
I
like
that.
There's
a
pool
tip
system
I
think
that
those
are
best
so
that
there's
Equity
across
the
workers
who
are
getting
that
so
could
wages
benefits
so
I
agree
with
my
fellow
Commissioners
I
think
this
is
a
good
application.
B
The
applicant
is
surf
sub
cannabis,
Venture,
LLC
DBA
serves
up
cannabis
code.
The
proposed
license
premise
is
770,
gallon
Boulevard
Dorchester,
the
license
type
is
a
co-located
medical
and
recreational
cannabis.
Dispensary
license.
The
proposed
hours
of
operation
are
10
a.m,
to
10,
P.M
Monday
through
Saturday
and
10
a.m,
to
8
pm
on
Sunday.
This
is
a
non-equity
applicant
and
there
is
a
focus
on
conflict
with
another
establishment,
shareholders.
C
C
I
would
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
substance
to
the
diversity
inclusion
plan.
As
far
as
the
location,
like
I,
said,
it's
a
vacant
Verizon
store,
they
do
have
a
buffer
zone,
but
they
do
have
buffer.
But
to
me
it's
not
like
we're
comparing
Apples
to
Apples.
They
are
within
the
buffer
zone
of
a
delivery,
non-retail
application.
So
to
me
that
does
distinguish
it
from
being
within
the
buffer
zone
of
another
retail
establishment.
C
C
D
A
I
again,
I
agree
with
my
fellow
Commissioners.
My
only
concern
is
the
the
selling
of
the
pre-rolls
I
know
we
we
don't
allow
pre-rolls
to
be
sold
with
a
lot
of
our
other
recreational
with
I
mean
he
has
a
minimum
of
three,
so
I
I,
don't
know.
What's
similar
in
the
area,
I
really
didn't
get
a
chance
to
see
who
else
we
licensed
in
that
vicinity
and
what
we
have
allowed
for
them
to
sell.
But
I
don't
know
if
we
can
conditionally
sorry.
For
my
ringtones.
C
C
G
Yeah
I
thought
it
was
a
fine
application.
I
thought
it
meant
the
minimums
I
would
say
like
on
all
the
points
didn't
score
incredibly
high
for
me,
which
does
concern
me
a
little
bit
because
there
is
a
buffer
zone.
So
I'm
always
thinking
about
how
the
buffer
zone
needs
to
kind
of
go
above
and
beyond
something
different,
something
creative.
It
did
have
a
lot
of
Community
Support,
so
I
can't
fault.
That
sounds
like
a
great
applicant
and
great
location.
G
I
just
am
concerned
about,
because
it's
a
buffer
zone,
we
don't
always
know
what
happens
at
the
zoning
board
so
and
how
they
treat
these,
but
I
I
wasn't
as
high
as
I
would
like
to
see
my
score,
at
least
for
a
buffer
zone,
conflict
kind
of
a
higher
bar.
So
that's
what
I
would
say
but
again
I
agree.
Location
is
great
and
I
thought
that
you
know
they
had
such
great
Community
Sports,
so
really
good
applicant.
Just
that
bar
is
high
for
the
zoning
board.
I
know.
B
The
next
applicant
we
have
is
Ninjago
delivery,
LLC
Zaza
some
proposed
license
premises,
1455
to
1457
VFW,
Parkway,
West
Roxbury.
The
license
type
is
a
marijuana,
career
delivery
operator
and
product
manufacturer
license.
The
proposed
hours
of
operation
are
for
curry
and
delivery
operator,
9am
to
9
pm,
seven
days
a
week
and
Manufacturing
9am
to
9pm
seven
days
a
week.
This
is
an
equity
applicant
and
there
is
a
focus
on
conflict
with
the
other
establishment.
C
B
The
next
item
we
have
is
vinyl
Roots,
inks,
DBA,
soap,
cannabis,
those
license
premises,
340
North,
Market,
Street,
Faneuil
Hall
license
type
is
a
retail
recreational
cancer
Century
license.
The
proposed
hours
of
operation
are
9
A.M
to
11
p.m.
Seven
days
a
week.
This
is
the
equity
applicant
and
there
is
above
its
own
conflict
with
another
establishment.
Chairman
rejoice.
C
Thanks
thanks
Jasmine,
this
was
a
very
strong
application.
They
scored
high
in
every
category
and,
in
particular,
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
location
as
it
relates
to
the
bunker
Zone.
That
was
the
one
part
where
I
had
some
questions
on
about
it
on
it,
but
before
I
get
there,
some
of
the
things
that
stood
out
to
me
were
the
high
starting
salary,
the
support
they
had
from
elected
officials,
and
you
know
just
the
unique
concept.
C
So
that's
25
over
in
our
entire
evaluation
and
a
key
part
of
that
is
whether
or
not
there
is
another
already
licensed
entity
nearby
here.
Not
only
is
there
already
another
licensed
applicant
nearby
there's
actually
five
existing
cannabis
hcas
within
this
buffer
zone,
but
I
don't
believe
this
tells
the
entire
story.
An
existing
cannabis
establishment
is
an
applicant
that
has
been
granted
a
license
by
the
BCB
or
an
establishment
that
holds
a
valid
HCA
with
the
city
that
pre-existed
the
formation
of
the
BCB
here.
I.
Believe
it's
my
opinion.
C
C
The
buffer
zone
was
instituted
years
ago
to
prevent
hyper
concentration
and
to
keep
one
dispensary
from
selling
to
from
setting
up
shop
a
stone's
throw
away
from
another
situation
has
occurred
in
other
parts
of
the
country
when
canvas
was
first
legalized,
we
just
don't
know
yet.
If
we
have
reached
saturation
in
the
downtown
area,
I
would
argue
we
haven't
in
other
areas
of
the
city
where
we
have
voted
to
pierce
buffer
zones.
It's
been
a
one-off
situation
and
I
have
to
go
back
to
the
fact
here.
We
have
five
and
we
don't
know
yet.
C
Funeral
Hall
is
a
tourist
destination
and
some
would
argue
that
the
Ripple
effects
of
Covenant
19
and
its
impact
on
tourism
in
businesses
have
still
left
the
city
far
from
pre-pandemic
levels.
This
applicant
is
trying
to
make
the
case
of
Faneuil
Hall
as
a
separate
ecosystem
from
downtown,
and
that
may
be
the
case.
C
Cannabis
was
legalized
in
the
city
with
the
buffer
zone.
We
can't
ignore
it
and
I'm
not
ignoring
it,
but
in
recent
decisions
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
the
BCB
and
the
zba
have
decided
that
piercing
the
buffer
zone
makes
sense
with
more
than
50
licenses
to
give
out
Citywide
in
very
few
appropriate
locations.
Some
see
the
Zone
limit
as
an
impediment
to
licensing
and,
as
commissioner
Smith
said
earlier,
one
of
my
fellow
Commissioners
I
forget.
We.
C
I
can't
say
this
is
an
awesome
application.
Why
don't
you
go
to
Fields
Corner?
We
receive
the
applications
attached
to
a
certain
site.
I
think
this
business
concept
does
offer
special
circumstances
for
us
to
consider
here.
It's
a
recording
studio,
a
space
for
artists
to
come
together
for
mentorship
opportunities
and
the
Faneuil
Hall
Merchant
Association
supports
this.
This
isn't
a
business
coming
in
to
take
over
it's
a
business.
That's
trying
to
lift
the
tide
for
all
the
businesses
around
it
in
Faneuil.
Hall
saturation
is
very
serious
consideration,
but
it's
just
one
side
of
the
coin.
D
Thank
you
Jasmine.
You
know
I,
think
I,
think
the
buffer
zone
is
an
important
issue
and
I
think
we
should
continue
to
think
about
how
you
know
these
businesses
come
up.
You
know
how
really
they
are
impacting
each
other.
Based
on
that,
you
know.
I,
let's
relate
to
the
saturation
report.
I
was
thinking
a
lot
about.
You
know
the
cannabis
tourism
like
kind
of
Tourism,
and
they
called
it,
and
that
you
know
friend
of
Hall
is-
does
draw
a
lot
of
tourists.
D
So
you
know-
and
if
you
know
using
that
as
a
measure,
you
know
considering
the
five
others
that
are
around
there.
You
know
thinking
that.
Well,
it
will
be
competitive,
but
it's
not
like
it's
impossible.
So
it's
like
they're
by
six
different
clothing
stores
and
different
all
kinds
of
things
in
that
area.
A
I
agree
with
both
my
fellow
Commissioners
and
you
know
as
a
kid
who-
oh
I'm,
not
a
kid
anymore,
but
as
a
kid
who
grew
up
in
Boston,
I
downtown
is
its
own
to
me
own
little
country
with
different
cities
and
every
I
agree
with
commissioner
Joyce
tear
woman
Joyce.
It's
like
its
own
little
ecosystem
at
each
section
of
downtown,
has
its
own
set
of
visitors
and
tourists
and
to
me,
downtown
crossing
is
completely
different
area
than
Faneuil,
Hall
and
I.
A
Think
people
who
are
in
one
particular
section
of
that
ecosystem
are
not
going
to
travel
outside
of
their
comfort
zone
to
shop
and
you
know
to
engage
in
in
whatever
activities
so
I
I,
agree.
I,
think
this
was
a
very
strong
application.
As
you
all
know,
I
was
the
one
who
was
against
it
in
the
beginning,
because
I
was
concerned
about
the
recording
studio.
A
So
you
know,
I
I
think
they
put
together
a
really
strong
application,
security
and
I
think
they
really
thought
through
the
fact
that,
where
this
location
was
what
it
what
it
meant-
and
you
know
what
it
could
bring
to
the
area
and
agree
again,
I
agree
with
chairwoman
Joyce.
The
fact
that
the
whole
market
area
supports-
and
you
know
wants
this
business-
makes
a
big
difference,
because
they
also
see
how
that
this
business
can
help
the
general
area
bringing
different
people.
It's
a.
A
It
is
a
very
unique
concept:
I
love
the
music
fact:
we've
lost
that
in
our
schools
and
and
everything
and
our
youth
do
not
really
get
to
participate
or
even
learn
about
music,
whether
it's
live
music,
whether
it's
recorded
and
the
the
mentorship
that
this
group
is
offering
and
some
of
the
support
services
for
the
Greater
Boston
Community,
not
just
Faneuil
Hall,
because
that
artist
space
is
going
to
support
budding
artists
from
across
Massachusetts.
So
it's
going
to
bring
I
believe
a
lot
of
new
consumers
to
that
area
and
I
I,
agree.
A
I,
think
that
downtown
is
a
is
a.
Although
it's
a
neighborhood,
it
is
a
different
Echo
ecosystem
than
a
Dorchester
or
a
Roxbury,
and
we
have
like
five
dispensaries
here
right
now,
but
I
also
think
that
they're
all
kind
of
spread
out
within
this
ecosystem
that
they
can
successfully
succeed,
as
you
say,
I
think
that
I
think
the
comp,
the
competition
and
it
gives
it
gives
them
I
just
think.
There's
enough
to
support
these.
These
places
in
that
area.
G
Do
I
have
anything
to
add
I,
think
nothing
new
to
say,
I
completely
agree,
I,
just
I,
guess
I
would
just
think
my
fellow
Commissioners,
specifically
chairwoman,
Joyce
I
thought
your
comments
were
very
well
thought
out
and
I'm
really
laid
out
the
conundrum
that
we're
in
we're
in
a
conundrum
I
mean,
let's
just
be
real.
We
want
to
support
all
of
our
local
businesses,
specifically
the
equity
applicants
we're
in
a
conundrum.
This
is
the.
This
is
not
easy.
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
a
great
applicant,
but
I
I.
Don't
like
doing
this.
G
I,
don't
like
putting
potentially
I.
Don't
I,
don't
like
the
free
market
system,
I'm
just
gonna
be
I'm.
Just
gonna,
be
honest.
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
people
who
are
responsible
businesses
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
paying
their
workers
well
giving
jobs
to
Boston
residents
giving
opportunities.
That's
what
we
want.
So
when
we're
having
to
have
businesses
I,
guess
I
have
something
new
to
say:
I'm!
G
Sorry
I
wasn't
going
to
say
all
this,
but
I
do
think
that
the
company
I,
don't
like
it
I,
don't
like
the
you
know:
market
rate
competition,
I'm
just
going
to
say
to
you
and
I
want
all
these
Equity
applicants
to
be
successful
because
we
want
we.
They
are
doing
incredible
work
for
our
city
and
and
putting
themselves
out
there
to
have
a
business,
and
maybe
it's
successful.
G
Maybe
it's
not,
but
our
board
wants
you
to
be
successful,
so
I'm
in
favor
I,
don't
have
anything
else
to
say,
but
there's
a
conundrum
and
I
really
thank
my
fellow
Commissioners
for
thinking
very
clearly
and
thoughtfully
about
how
to
do
this
and
the
in
the
ways
that
really
reflect
our
values.
So
thank
you.
C
B
Is
there
a
stalker
commissioner
Holmes
all
in
favor
one
two,
three
four
and
none
opposed
the
license
is
conditionally
granted
the
Buffer's
own
variance
all
right,
and
the
final
final
item
on
is
a
one
day.
Extension
for
Happy
Valley
at
220,
William
McCullen,
is
Boston.
They
have
applied
for
an
extension
of
hours
on
4
20..
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
open
at
8am,
as
opposed
to
their
10
AM,
and
the
applicant
will
close
out
their
normal
9
pm
closing
hour
challenges.