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Disability Commission Advisory Board Meeting 7-13-22
A
Meeting
law
requires
that
I
notify
the
public
that
this
meeting
is
recorded.
Therefore,
please
be
aware
that
an
audio
and
visual
recording
of
this
meeting
is
being
made
by
boston
city
tv,
a
part
of
the
city
of
boston
office,
of
cable
communications
and
is
being
broadcast
on
xfinity
channel
24,
rcn,
channel
13
and
fios
channel
962.
With
that
I
hand
it
off
to
our
board
chair
wesley
ireland.
B
Okay,
great
good
evening,
everybody,
I
hope
everyone
is
having
a
great
summer
so
far.
B
I
guess
we're
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
the
introductions
of
the
members.
I
guess
I
will
start
by
saying
on
west
ireland
and
you
can
see
me
using
sign
language
and
there's
an
interpreter
who
is
interpreting
from
my
sign
language.
I'm
the
chair
of
the
commission
and
I
live
in
the
north
end
of
boston.
C
D
B
Thanks
ducia,
I
think
we
will
ask
for
carl
to
introduce
himself
next.
E
F
B
Thank
you
and
how
about
part
sorry,
yardley.
B
Great
thanks,
charlie
and
next
elizabeth,
please.
B
B
So
now
next
I
let's
see
who's
next
who's
on
the
phone
jerry.
B
Great
I'd
also
like
to
add
that
the
commissioner
mikash
is
not
going
to
be
with
us
this
evening,
so
andrea
is
going
to
be
in
place
of
the
commission
for
this
evening.
So
thank
you
amber.
B
B
Okay,
now,
for
this
evening's
presentation,
we
have
a
presentation
on
the
mbta
bus
network
rebuilding
and
we
have
with
us
victoria,
ireland,
so
victoria
you
can
have
the
floor.
J
K
J
L
B
D
J
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
As
I
said,
my
name
is
doug
johnson
and
I
am
the
project
manager
for
plus
network
reason
and
I'm
joined
by
my
colleague,
robert
guptel,
the
director
of
service
planning
at
the
mbta.
Before
I
continue,
can
someone
just
confirm
that
you
can
in
fact
see
what
I
am
sharing?
J
J
Perfect,
thank
you.
I
will.
J
Okay,
thank
you
sorry.
Sometimes
I
talk
too
fast
when
I'm
giving
these
presentations.
I
have
a
short
presentation
for
you
all
tonight.
If
you
attended
the
writer's
transition
access
group
meeting
on
june
30th.
J
So
what
is
the
bus
network
redesign?
Hopefully,
everyone
here
is
already
familiar
with
this
process,
but
it
is
a
complete
reimagining
of
the
mta's
bus
network
to
create
a
better
network
that
better
reflects
the
travel
needs
of
the
region
and
creates
a
better
experience
for
bus
riders.
J
The
reason
why
we're
doing
this
process
is
because,
as
you
all
know,
the
region
has
changed
a
lot
over
the
last
few
decades,
but
our
bus
network
has
not
so.
This
is
a
response
to
those
changes,
and
you
know
new
demand
for
travel
and
the
creation
of
new
job
centers
and
new
destinations
in
the
region
that
are
not
necessarily
well
served
by
public
transit
as
it
is
today.
J
The
bus
network
redesign
has
built
off
of
really
years
of
effort
that
have
proceeded
it
under
the
better
bus
project
through
the
public
outreach
for
the
better
bus
project.
What
we
really
heard
from
our
riders
was
that
they
need
the
bus
network
transit
services
in
general
to
go
where
people
want
to
go.
We
need
a
system
that
is
simple
to
use
and
understand,
and
a
system
that
is
fast,
frequent
and
reliable
and,
most
importantly,
serves
the
people
who
rely
on
it
most.
J
We're
looking
at
having
more
frequent
service
in
neighborhoods.
That
you
know
are
the
busiest
in
terms
of
housing
and
jobs
where
travel
is
happening
to
and
from.
We
want
more
all-day
service.
We
want
new
connections
to
more
places,
including
non-downtown
job
centers
and
in
general,
a
network
that's
simpler
and
easier
to
use
we're
paying
particular
attention
to
accessibility
in
the
new
network
and,
as
folks
may
already
know,
we
have
released
a
proposed
draft
draft
bus
network
map
which
we
can
talk
about
meetings
today.
We
are
soliciting
comments
on
that
map
from
the
public.
J
So,
as
we
look
at
making
modifications
to
what
we've
proposed,
we
are
paying
particular
attention
to
accessibility
needs,
including
things
like
distances
to
nearest
bus,
stops
number
of
transfers
that
would
be
required
to
make
trips
crowding
on
buses
and
at
bus
stops.
Accessibility
of
bus
stops
and
the
you
know,
proximity
to
important
destinations,
including
shopping
centers,
health
care
facilities,
senior
housing,
etc.
So
those
are
all
things
that
we
are
trying
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
adjust
the
draft
map
and
finalize
it.
J
150
000,
more
residents
of
color
will
gain
access
to
high
frequency
service
and
40
000
loans
and
households
will
be
in
access
to
high
frequency
service,
in
this
case
we're
defining
high
frequency
service
as
service,
that
is
every
15
minutes
or
better
all
day,
seven
days
a
week,
we're
also
proposing
a
25
increase
across
the
board
in
bus
service,
a
70
increase
in
weekend
service
and
just
an
example
of
you
know
how
we're
looking
at
new
job
centers
that
didn't
necessarily
exist
in
the
way
they
do
now
decades
ago.
J
With
the
new
proposed
map,
200
000
more
residents
would
gain
access
to
frequent
service
to
the
longwood
medical
area.
Where
supposed
to
know
a
lot
of
hospitals
are
working.
J
J
J
Right
now,
with
the
existing
network,
27
percent
of
we
take
services
frequent
in
the
proposed
network.
It's
50
of
we
do
service
communities
like
everett,
lynn,
bedford,
somerville,
south
boston,
roxbury
do
not
currently
have
frequent
all-day
routes.
Now
they
would
under
the
proposed
map
and
just
to.
J
To
use
the
longwood
medical
area
as
an
example
right
now,
it's
only
served
by
two
frequent
bus
routes
in
the
proposed
map.
There
would
now
be
six
and
then
seaport
and
kendall
square
also
get
new
frequent
service
that
they
don't
have
an
assistant
system.
J
We
are
focusing
on
providing
frequent
bus
service
on
corridors
and
to
locations
that
are
not
served
well
by
the
rapid
transit
network.
Today
I
mentioned
the
number
of
residents
who
would
gain
access
by
high
frequency
service.
The
longwood
medical
area
sort
of
in
that
vein,
with
the
proposed
map,
180
000
more
people
would
gain
high
frequency
service
at
the
south,
boston
waterfront
and
approximately
50
to
60
000.
More
people
would
gain
high
frequency
service
to
the
back
bay
and
kendall
square.
J
We
used
all
of
that
feedback
that
we
collected
to
evaluate
the
existing
bus
number
and
then
do
more
public
outreach
to
folks
to
talk
about
how
transit
was
currently
working
or
not
working
for
them.
We
then
use
that
to
draft
this
new
bus
network
map,
which
we
released
a
couple
months
ago.
I've
been
doing
extensive
public
outreach
for
since
the
spring
and
through
the
summer.
So
that's
what
you
see
here
in
outreach
phase
two
summer
and
spring
2022.
J
We
intend
to
take
all
that
feedback
that
we're
going
to
give
folks
and
finalize
the
map.
This
fall.
Do
more
public
outreach
to
folks
talk
about
what
changes
were
made
to
the
map
in
response
to
the
feedback
that
we
got
and
then
implementation
is
anticipated
to
begin
in
2023,
and
it's
expected
that
we
will
implement
this
new
network
in
phases
over
the
course
of
about
five
years.
J
Just
an
example
of
some
of
the
public
outreach
that
we're
doing
I
apologize.
I
should
have
updated
the
numbers
on
this
slide
because
they're
a
little
out
of
date,
we've
attended
even
more
meetings
and
gotten
more
comments
from
folks,
since
the
slide
was
originally
populated.
J
But
we
have
a
survey
available
on
our
website,
which
folks
can
fill
out.
We've
been
conducting
focus
groups
with
riders,
convening
an
external
task
force
for
the
best
network,
redesign
we've
been
holding
meetings
with
municipalities
and
roadway
owners,
conducting
street
team
outreach
events
throughout
the
network,
conducting
open
houses
at
different
stations,
doing
engagement
with
bus
operators,
the
mta
training
school
and
all
the
internal
departments
at
the
mta
we've
given
presentations
to
elected
officials
and
we've
been
advertising
our
meetings
and
this
process
in
multiple
languages
across
multiple
forms
of
media,
including
radio,
ads
newspaper
online
etc.
J
J
We
still
have
some
upcoming
public
engagement
opportunities
for
folks
to
attend
if
they'd
like,
including
on
july
19th.
So
next
week
we're
going
to
have
an
in-person
open
house
at
the
bowling
building
in
nubian
square,
then
we're
going
to
have
a
virtual
public
hearing
on
zoom
july
26th
and
on
july
28th
we'll
have
an
in-person
public
hearing
at
temp
park,
plaza
in
downtown
boston
where
the
mta
and
massdot
offices
are
located.
J
We
also
have
some
station
open
houses
coming
up.
We
just
did
one
yesterday
at
forest
hills.
We
have
one
next
week
at
wonderland
and
then
we
have
a
couple
more
street
teams.
Events
coming
up
as
well
tomorrow,
we'll
be
at
oak
road,
disseminating
information
about
west
park,
redesign
talking
to
riders
and
then
next
week
will
be
at
rubble
station
and
then
later
in
the
week
we
will
be
at
wonderland
again
to
the
street
team.
J
The
there's
a
project
website
that
you
can
go
to
that
contains
all
the
information
about
the
proposed
map
and
talks
about
ways
that
you
can
solicit
comments
on
it.
The
project
website
is
mbta.com
bnrd,
which
is
the
acronym
for
investment
redesign.
J
You
can
send
us
emails
to
the
better
bus
email
address,
which
is
better
bus
project
at
mbta.com.
We
take
in
all
the
emails
about
bus
number
three
design
and
review
them.
I
mentioned
the
online
survey.
You
can
also
mail
written
comments
to
us
if
you'd
like
to
you
can
send
them
to
temp
plaza
suite
3830
boston,
mass
o2116,
or
we
also
have
a
voicemail
online
set
up
where
you
can
call
in
and
leave
your
comments
or,
if
you
would
like
to,
and
the
number
for
that
is
three
617-222-3330
one
one.
J
So
there's
lots
of
different
ways.
You
can
provide
feedback
on
this.
We
hope
that
you
are
able
to
engage
in
this
process
in
any
way
that
you
can
we'd
really
love
to
hear
from.
J
You
hear
your
thoughts
on
the
proposals
that
we
have
out
there
so
that
we
can
improve
them
as
we
finalize
them,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
back
to
you
all
for
questions
and
comments,
and
if
you
have
any
comments
about
specific
changes
to
roots,
robert
guptill
from
the
t
would
be
able
to
speak
to
any
of
those,
and
I
have
slides
that
show
maps
with
those
changes.
So
we're
happy
to
walk
through
this.
B
B
Okay,
for
a
moment,
okay,
actually
I
do
have
a
question.
I
want
to
actually
open
it
up
to
the
board.
I
have
a
question
that
I'm
going
to
open
up
to
the
board
for
any
questions.
I'm
really
excited
to
see
this
new
redesign
of
the
bus
network,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
project.
B
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very.
I
think
it's
been
pretty
challenging
over
the
past
two
years
with
pandemic
and
I'm
just
wondering
how
these
changes
are
going
to.
This
redesign
is
going
to
impact
some
of
these
changes,
because
many
companies
are
not
bringing
people
back
to
the
office
full
time.
So
we've
seen
lots
of
changes.
J
That
is
a
great
question
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
changes
that
we've
proposed
are
somewhat
unaffected
to
some
extent
by
what
has
happened
the
last
couple
years.
There
are
some
bus
routes
that
are
already
back
to
pre-pandemic
ridership
or
are
starting
to
exceed
free
pandemic
ridership.
So
some
of
the
changes
that
we
make
will
be
to
improve
many
of
those
routes
that
are
already
seeing
substantial
ridership,
but
also
because
of
the
fact
that
implementation
of
this
network
will
take
a
couple
years.
J
J
So
to
some
extent
it
will
be
an
iterative
process
where
we
can
make
little
adjustments
here
or
there
as
circumstances
change
or
ridership
or
travel
demands.
L
J
L
Said
in
my
department
service
planning,
we
are
the
department
that
looks
at
ridership
and
looks
at
crowding
and
we
continually
make
adjustments
on
a
quarterly
basis
to
schedules
to
reflect
what
that
ridership
is
to
try
and
avoid
crowding.
The
one
thing
that
I
would
add
you
mentioned,
that
travel
patterns
have
changed
and
people
are
traveling.
You
know
once
a
week
or
twice
a
week,
whereas
they
used
to
travel
five
times
a
week
for
those
commute
jobs.
B
Okay,
very
well
thanks
robert
thank
you
both
actually
robert
and
doug,
and
I
actually
see.
B
I
see
jerry
has
his
hand
up.
I
recognize
jerry.
I
We
go
here,
we
go.
I
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
thanks
wes
for
for
recognizing
me
yeah.
I
I
I
the
board
that
solicited
from
members
the
specific
questions
on
specific
routes,
and
I
do
have
a
a
specific
question.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
prepared
to
answer
a
specific
questions
this
evening
or
what
we
should
do,
that
we
should
do
that
offline.
I
We
can
try
sure
well
I'll
use
my
my
question
as
an
example.
As
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
of
the
meeting
I
live
in
west
roxbury
and
and
I
saw
from
from
the
map
that
there'll
be
more
more
frequent
service
than
west
roxbury
and
also
service
to
legacy
place.
I
My
question
concerned
accessibility
to
legacy
place.
It
didn't
look
like
all
the
materials
that
I
was
able
to
just
do
like
that.
There
was
gonna,
be
a
bus
route
that
went
directly
into
legacy
place
and
it
and,
as
you
may
or
may
not
know,
legacy
base
is
up
off
a
very
busy
section.
I
I
But
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
it's
going
to
be
accessible
for
folks
with
mobility
impairments,
you
know
and
safe
people.
You
know
that
they'll
be
able
to
access.
You
know
get
to
legacy
play
safely.
So
how
would
how
would
the
your
initial
proposal
accomplish
that.
L
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
question.
So
certainly,
accessibility
is
a
key
part
of
when
we
provide
service.
Any
new
service
by
federal
law
has
to
be
fully
accessible
so
going
to
legacy
place
as
an
example.
We
cannot
provide
service
to
legacy
place
unless
the
stops
that
we
serve
are
fully
accessible.
L
According
to
the
americans
with
disabilities
act
in
terms
of
legacy
place,
we
have
been
actually
working
with
them
over
the
past
year
to
try
and
find
a
location
where
we
can
serve
lay
over
the
bus
and
and
provide
a
good
place
for
service
to
be,
and
we've
had
some
good
conversations
with
dedham
with
legacy
place.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
ended
from
what
you're
saying
is
that
there
are
ongoing
discussions
so
as
it
stands
right
now,
your
initial
proposal
would
not
improve
access
to
legacy
place.
That
much.
L
I
Yeah,
I
asked
specifically
because
from
what
I
was
able
to
discern
from
the
materials
so
far,
it
still
looked
like
there
was
it's
pretty
hazardous
to
to
travel,
to
legacy
place
based
on
the
new
based
on
your
current
new
proposed
route.
Is
that
not
true
am
I
am
I
reading
that
incorrectly.
L
So
when
you
look
at
the
draft
map,
it
calls
for
the
routing
to
go
into
legacy
place
via
elm
street
and
then
circle
around
the
area.
That's
just
outside
the
movie
theater
and
the
yard
house,
and
the
idea
would
be
that
we
would.
That
would
be
the
stop
in
the
layover
position
for
service.
So
you.
I
There
would
be
a
stop
near
near
elm
street.
We
wouldn't
have
to
cross
over
providence
highway.
B
Okay,
before
I
call
on
ducia
for
her
question,
I
would
like
to
let
the
members
know
that
your
feedback
can
actually
be
given
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
as
well,
because
you're
more
than
welcome
to
actually
write
your
question
in
the
chat
as
well,
so,
whether
you
verbalize
it
here
or
put
it
in
the
chat,
you
can
certainly
do
that
as
well.
You
can
give
public
input.
The
public
can
give
input
as
well
anytime
in
the
chat.
C
C
I
don't
know
anymore
right
now
on
top
of
my
head,
but
anyway
I
was
looking
at
the
changes
and
I
noticed
that
so
it's
I
know,
maybe
maybe
I
was
not
looking
at
everything
or
maybe
there's
something
that
I
overlooked.
However,
I
noticed
that
there
were
part
there
was
a
product
on
like
arlington
or
arlington
heights.
C
C
Let's
see
the
weekends
it's
hard
there
and
I
mean
I,
I
work
there
and
I
do
fill
in
ships
there
on
the
weekends
and
I
noticed
that
it's
it's
not
very
like
it's
a
little
hard
for
for
some
people
who
are
in
relations
or
other
like
there
are
accessibility
issues
around
that
area.
C
L
Great
questions
and
there's
so
much
detail
here.
It's
really
hard
to
get
a
sense
of
all
of
it,
so
yeah
in
the
arlemont
area.
We
do
have
a
couple
routes
that
serve
that
that
neighborhood,
the
one
that
directly
serves
the
auromant
area,
is
the
78.
L
Its
draft
called
the
78
as
the
78
is
today
the
change
that
we
would
actually
put
that
we're
recommending
for
the
78
is
to
have
it
all
the
time
go
down
to
route
2a
the
way
that
it
does
sometimes
today,
but
sometimes
it
goes
up
to
arlington
the
the
bus
way
on
off
of
mass
ave.
We
would
have
it
full
time
go
down
to
2a.
L
Also
in
that
neighborhood
we
do
have
the
62,
which
is
coming
from
bedford
and
it
comes
down
through
arlington
heights
on
its
way
to
2a.
That
would
provide
some
level
of
service
again
during
the
weekends.
It
would
be
60
minutes
or
better
that
it
would
provide
that
service
and
then
along
mass
ave.
We
have
the
77
as
it
operates
today,
and
that
would
be
a
high
frequency
surface
that
would
be
15
minutes
or
better
every
day,
weekdays
saturday,
sunday
from
5
a.m,
to
1
a.m,
15
minutes
or
better.
E
I
see
that
you're
increasing
all
these
bus
routes
with
more
frequency,
but
I'm
assuming
you
have
so
many
resources.
You
only
have
a
finite
number
of
resources,
so
I'm
assuming,
if
you
increase
the
number
of
buses
that
you're
also
decreasing
some,
is
that
correct.
L
L
However,
even
with
that,
there
are
some
trade-offs
that
are
in
here
that
one
has
to
make
when
you're
changing
routes
and
whenever
you
change
a
route,
even
if
you're
serving
the
same
stock
locations,
but
routes
are
going
in
different
directions.
There
are
going
to
be
some
people
who
benefit,
and
some
people
who
do
not
benefit.
So
those
trade-offs
are
a
natural
part
of
this
route
level
planning.
But
the
overall
25
increase
in
service
hours
means
that
we
have
many
fewer
trade-offs
than
we
act
that
we
would
need
to
make
otherwise.
E
I
yeah
for
now
you
did
I'll,
have
to
take
a
look
and
see
where
the
trade-offs
are.
But,
yes,
I
think
overall,
I'm
very
happy
with
the
increased
frequency
as
a
blind
person
who
relies
on
the
bus
system
quite
a
bit,
but
I'm
thinking
of
boots
like
I
can't
remember
the
best
one,
but
I
go
by
the
carrollton
on
the
weekend.
Already
it
really
doesn't
go
by
the
castle
for
the
blind
or
out
to
perkins.
L
E
L
I
do
see
a
question
that
came
in
in
the
chat.
The
question
was:
is
the
32
from
hyde
park
being
extended
to
legacy
place?
L
The
answer
to
that
is:
no,
it
is
the
34
and
34
e
that
are
proposed
to
extend
to
legacy
place.
The
32
would
continue
to
terminate
in
wolcott
square
as
it
does
today.
L
But
I
I
would
also
like
to
add
sorry:
it's
always
additional
things.
One
can
think
of.
There
is
a
an
extension
of
route
33
that
is
proposed.
That
would
go
from
ashmont
to
matapan.
B
Thank
you
again,
I'd
like
to
recognize
matt
lauren.
I
see
that
matt's
got
a
question
he's
from
boston
transportation,
department.
K
Hey
everyone
just
want
to
thank
rob
and
doug
for
the
close
partnership
on
this.
My
name
is
matt
moran.
I
work
for
the
boston
transportation
department,
a
liaison
here
called
the
transit
teams.
We
coordinate
closely
with
the
team
to
sort
of
make
sure
that
service
is
reliable
and
improve
bus
service
across
the
city.
K
I
will
leave
my
contact
info
in
the
chat
if
people
have
any
boston,
specific
questions
or
feedback,
we
are
also
putting
together
a
comment
letter
and
so
listening
sort
of
sort
of
boston-wide
comments
so
feel
free
to
reach
out,
and
let
me
know
if
you've
got
any
questions
or
feedback.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
great
thank
you
matt
now
I
guess
there's
no
further
questions
from
the
board.
B
One
moment,
yes,
thank
you
so
again,
thank
you,
doug
and
rob.
Thank
you
so
much
and
thanks
matt
for
your
contact
information
there
in
the
chat.
B
All
right,
I
guess
next
on
the
agenda,
I'm
going
to
proceed
with
the.
D
B
So
there
are
a
few
things
that
I
did
want
to
report
on.
B
Firstly,
michelle
wu's
inauguration
was
recently
held.
B
It
was
two
weeks
ago
and
it
was
attended
by
many
of
the
advisory
board
members,
and
it
was
really
great
to
see
some
of
you
in
person
after
many
months
and
also
it
was
really
great
meeting
some
of
your
significant
others,
and
I'm
also
really
amazed
at
the
the
dance
moves
for
those
of
you
who
took
the
dancing
floor.
You
took
it
like
a
storm.
I
was
really
impressed.
B
B
There
will
be
local
organizations
that
serve
the
disability,
community
and
there'll,
be
city
departments
there
on
hand
to
answer
questions
at
the
ada
celebration
day.
There'll
also
be
some
music,
some
t-shirts
and
lunch
is
also
going
to
be
provided.
So
free
food
pre-registration
is
not
needed,
but
if
you
need
additional
accommodations,
please
send
an
email
and
send
a
contact
or
an
email
to
the
to
disability
at
boston.gov
gov.
B
B
Next
item
is
well
july,
is
actually
disability
pride
month,
and
I
actually
didn't
know
that
there
was
a
flag
for
it
that
it
was
actually
created
by
a
woman
with
a
disability.
B
B
B
And
then
blue
on
the
flag
is
for
people
who
have
suffered
mental
illness
and
then
lastly,
green
is
for
people
represents
people
who
have
a
sensory
perception.
Disability,
okay
and
so
one
last
item
is
that
I've
read
the
social
media
post
on
a
social
media
post
on
by
coldplay
the
musical
group
coldplay,
and
it
seems
that
coldplay
really
do
care
about
their
fans
and
they
seem
to
strive
to
make
their
live
performances
enjoyable
for
everyone.
B
If
they're
coming
to
a
city
near
you-
and
I
did
take
a
look
at
their
site,
but
unfortunately
they're
not
coming
to
boston
anytime
soon,
but
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
what
a
subpac
is
there
are
these
wearable
devices
they're
like
a
vest
that
deliver
bass
sounds
so
the
feeling
of
the
bass
rhythm,
so
those
sub
packs
are
kind
of
they're,
pretty
cool.
Actually
I
remember
before
I,
the
boston
landmark
orchestra
had
received
a
grant.
B
Any
event
that
promotes
the
use
of
this,
so
my
point
is
basically
that
I
hope
that
more
concerts
in
boston
will,
you
know,
work
on
increasing
accessibility
like
what
colblade
is
saying
that
they're
doing
they're
doing
this,
for
their
shows.
I
It's
me
with,
I
may
have
missed
this.
Thank
you
for
bringing
the
attention
to
our
attention
about
the
flag.
I
had
no
idea:
where
can
where
did
you
see
it
or
where
can
we?
Where
can
we
see
an
example
of
one
or
maybe
even
get
one.
B
Actually,
I'd
be
happy
to
send
any
of
you,
the
link
of
the
disability
pride
flag,
there's
a
link.
I
B
Yes
great,
I
will
do
that
I'll
certainly
do
that
I'll.
Do
that
in
a
few
minutes,
my
hands
are
a
bit
busy
they're
a
bit
tied
here,
juggling
a
few
things
so
I'll
do.
H
Yes,
thank
you
wes
for
the
report
that
your
report,
but
in
particular
I'm
in
following
up
with
the
museum
of
science.
I
don't
know
if
they're,
if
that's
did
you
say,
that's
across
all
types
of
disabilities,
I
think
you
might
have,
but
also
how
to
follow
up
on
that.
A
This
is
andrea
as
well.
Colleen
is
going
to
try
and
look
that
up
while,
while
you're
running
the
meeting
west.
So
if
we
can't
find
it
we'll,
let
you
know
before
the
before
the
end
of
the
meeting.
B
B
H
Yes,
thank
you
wes,
I'm
I
didn't
have,
and
I
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
let
you
know
directly
that
I'd
be
able
to
participate,
but
yes
I'll
I'll,
keep
this
brief.
But
what
I'd
like
the
board
and
the
public
to
know
about
me
is
that
I'm
elizabeth
dean
clower
I'm
a
public
health
doctor
by
training.
It
so
happened
that
my
medical
school
training
coincided
with
my
experience
of
a
chronic
condition.
H
That
became
a
disability,
so
I
it
was
definitely
both
an
interesting
challenge
as
well
as
insightful
for
me
to
have
my
own
experience.
A
lived
experience
with
a
disability
coincide
with
being
trained
in
a
situation
that
often
was
inadequate
to
in
considering
the
the
situations
or
need
for
accommodations
for
many
disabilities.
Now,
in
fairness,
because
of
the
timing,
part
of
part
of
this
occurred
before
the
ada
was
passed,
but
not
by
that
not
much
time.
H
I
would
say
the
more
significant
time
frame
that
I've
had
a
disability
has
been
with
the
ada
in
place
and
certainly
we've
all
seen
the
improvements,
but
there
there
need
to
be
more
professionally.
I
worked
in
cancer
care
settings
for
20
years,
working
with
not
as
a
clinician
but
as
doing
some
research
and
education
and
working
with
clinicians
I,
as
far
as
advocacy.
H
I
because
I
was
first
working
down
at
the
national
institutes
of
health.
I
was
working
on
some
of
the
local
or
washington-based
advocacy
work
with
within
the
federal
government,
but
at
a
much
earlier
stage
relative
to
where
that
is
now.
But
I
grew
up
in
this
area
wanted
to
return
to
this
area.
H
And
so,
when
I
moved
back
to
massachusetts,
I
was
on
the
other
side
of
the
river
in
cambridge
and
participated
in
their
commission
for
the
cambridge
commission
for
persons
with
disabilities
as
a
member
and
chair
and
but
certainly
I've
enjoyed
working
in
once.
I
moved
to
boston
that
this
is
both
the
size
of
boston
and
great.
You
know
greater
even
greater
diversity,
resources.
H
H
Interrelated
issues
governmentally
that
I
realized
that
this
both
the
commissioner's
office
on
disability
and
then
our
advisory
board
that
they're
these
that
we
receive
these
presentations.
We
hear
from
so
many
other
parts
of
city
government
are
just
a
reminder
of
how
interrelated
many
of
these
problems
are.
H
So
I,
and
so
I
have
continued
to
do
some
teaching
at
tufts
university
school
of
medicine.
H
A
number
of
you
have
attended
some
of
their
general
meetings
and
I'd
like
to
discuss
with
the
executive
board
about
having
that
office
is
responsible
for
the
ride,
come
and
give
a
presentation
to
our
group,
and
so
just
to
finish
out
my
overview
of
myself.
H
I
really
enjoyed
traveling
in
the
past
that,
in
addition
to
the
way,
kovid
challenged
everyone's
ability
to
travel,
that,
for
some
medical
reasons,
I
haven't
been
able
to
travel,
as
I
had
in
the
past,
but
had
enjoyed
both
attending
a
medical
conference
in
china
in
the
past
and
was
the
only
one
of
the
only
people
I
saw
in
a
wheelchair
the
whole
time
in
a
a
two-week
trip
and
in
many
well-populated
areas.
H
So
it's
as
much
as
we
still
feel
there's
a
long
way
to
go
in
the
u.s
it
it's
a
reminder
that
we
do
have
access
that
that
some
other
places
don't
have
and
that
I
was
able
to
attend
the
paralympics
in
2012
in
london
as
a
spectator,
and
I
am
a
sports
fan.
So
with
that,
I
I
find
the
other
thing.
I
would
add
that,
as
wesley
had
already
referenced,
it
was
so
great
to
see
a
number
of
you
at
the
inaugural
event
for
mayor
wu.
B
B
B
Is
there
some
specific
association
for
for
medical
professionals
who,
with
disabilities,
is
there
some
sort
of
a
professional
association
that
you're
aware
of.
H
That's
that's
a
good
question
that
I
there's
certainly
been
ones
that
I
actually
need
to
look
into
that
to
see
where
things
stand
now,
because
what
also
changed
in
the
ada
versus
that
that
what
existed
prior
to
that
is
that
that
that
allowed
people
who
already
had
disabilities
to
attend
medical,
school
and
practice
in
their
field-
and
I
think
they're
probably
I
happen
to
be
affiliated
with
the
family,
medicine
department
or
one
of
the
first
year
of
like
a
multi-curricular
when
I
test,
but
it's
an
excellent
question
and
I'll
come
back
I'll.
H
Let
you
know
because
I
I
think
there
are
several
not
only
for
medical
education
these
days,
but
also
for
or
at
least
let's
put
it.
Let
me
put
it
this
way.
It
might
be
not
a
whole
distinct
group,
but
there
are
there.
There
are
such
groups,
and
I
just
I'm
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Don't
don't
know
a
complete
list,
but
I
think
that's
an
excellent
question
and
I
I'll
find
out
that
I
would
say
in
settings.
I've
worked
in
I've.
I
haven't.
H
It
hasn't
brought
me
into
direct
contact
with
lexa
at
a
conference
with
people
who
have
a
shared
disability,
but
people
like
dr
lisa
iazoni
over
at
harvard
medical
school
or
dr
sherry
blauwet,
the
two-time
marathon
winner,
who
is
over
at
the
brigham
doing
sports
medicine.
H
B
Okay,
then,
the
next
item
on
the
on
the
agenda
moving
on.
B
A
Thank
you,
wes
hi
everyone.
Yes,
my
name
is
andrea
patton.
You
all
know
me
if
you're
on
the
board
but
to
introduce
myself
to
members
of
the
public.
Oh,
I
know
that
says
june
15th,
but
this
is
definitely
the
july
13th
board
link.
Commissioner
mikash
sends
her
regrets
that
she
is
unable
to
attend
this
evening.
This
will
be
a
pretty
quick
presentation,
since
I
am
not
the
commissioner
but
a
few
things
that
she
wanted
to
make
sure
were
made
made
aware
to
you.
A
The
first
in
terms
of
an
advisory
board
update
the
massachusetts
office
on
disability
will
be
having
a
regional
commission
on
disability
meeting.
So
any
member
of
a
disability
commission-
and
I
know
it's
confusing
here
in
boston,
where
we
use
the
name
commission
to
describe
the
city
department
and
advisory
board
to
describe
you
all
but
per
state
law.
A
You
are
technically
the
commission
for
the
purposes
of
this
presentation,
and
so,
if
you
are
interested
in
attending
the
regional
meeting
to
hear
from
the
state
and
to
meet
with
other
folks
who,
like
you,
are
residents
in
their
community
who
have
been
appointed
to
a
board
that
is
happening
on
july
20th.
So
next
wednesday,
the
day
after
our
88
day
celebration,
there's
still
time
to
sign
up
to
attend.
A
The
email
is
listed
here:
jeff,
dugan,
j
e,
f,
f,
dot
d,
o:
u
g
a
n
mass
dot
gov.
I
believe
it
is
on
zoom,
although
it
doesn't
say
that
here
I
can
triple
check
if
you
have
concerns,
but
jeff
would
definitely
know
if
you
email
him
quick
update
on
our
shared
spaces
in
the
city
outreach
campaign,
which
I
know
we've
been
given
some
exciting
updates
on
the
last
few
months.
A
Who
is
on
the
call
tonight
that
would
like
to
attend?
Let
us
know
if
you're
interested
and
we
can
connect
you
wes
hit
a
lot
of
the
great
important
details
about
ada
day
like
there
will
be
food
and
t-shirts,
but
I
also
want
to
mention
specifically
to
the
advisory
board
that
the
tour
that
was
promised
near
completion
of
the
redesign
will
be
happening.
A
A
To
give
you
all
a
tour
of
said,
brick
around
completion
of
the
project
and
again
in
a
year
to
check
on
the
maintenance.
So
this
is
that
tour.
Please
text
me
or
email
me.
If
you
want
to
be
on
that
tour,
so
I
can
give
them
a
head
count
and
please
arrive
before
noon
so
that
we
can
kick
off
right
at
noon.
A
A
I
don't
even
know
how
many
people
50
75
people,
probably
came
to
our
table
and
that's
so
many
more
that
I
think
I've
ever
talked
to
in
one
day,
and
it
was
great
we
we
saw
some
old
friends
folks
that
are
on
the
call
tonight
stopped
by
and
also
met
a
lot
of
new
people
who
came
up
and
said
wow,
I
didn't
know
you
existed.
Please
tell
me
more,
I'm
going
to
call
and
follow
up.
We
had
at
least
one
person
who
came
up
and
said
you
know
I've.
A
I've
been
bad
at
asking
for
help,
but
I
need
to
recognize
that
I,
you
know,
have
a
disability
and
join
the
community.
What
can
I
do
and
gave
her
some
information?
We
had
some
folks
who
came
up
and
said
I've.
Never
I've
been
able
to.
You
know,
go
up
and
down
the
street
with
all
of
my
friends.
We
all
have
mobility
devices
and
the
sidewalks
not
wide
enough
for
all
of
us
to
hang
out
together.
This
is
so
awesome
to
be
in
the
street
together.
A
A
There
are
two
more
of
these
events
happening,
one
in
grove
hall
and
in
dorchester,
and
that's
august,
6th
and
one
in
september
down
in
matapan,
so
we're
learning
from
some
of
the
accessibility
challenges,
as
well
as
the
accessibility
winds
that
took
place
in
jamaica
plain
so
that
we
can
improve
and
make
these
events
really
fun
for
everyone
in
dorchester
and
mauna
pan.
So
let
me
know
if
you
were
there
and
you
just
missed
me
and
if
you
have
any
feedback
we'll
make
sure
we
we
incorporate
it
to
the
teams
in
dorchester
and
matapan.
A
Lastly,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
everyone
was
aware
of
a
new
opportunity
for
feedback
this
time
from
the
federal
government.
The
u.s
department
of
labor's
office
of
disability,
employment
policy
is
speak,
seeking
information
from
the
public,
so
the
current
population
survey
is
a
survey
that
is
run
by
the
department
of
labor
and
the
census
bureau.
A
They
collaborate
on
this
so
while
the
census
itself
only
takes
place
every
10
years,
the
current
population
survey
takes
place
more
regularly
than
that
and
they
have
various
supplemental
questions
that
dig
in
deeper
than
what
the
census
does
and
one
of
those
things
is
labor
force
statistics.
This
is
the
primary
source
for
the
u.s
government
about
labor
and
they
are
looking
for
some
feedback
from
the
public
about
the
supplement
related
to
disability
policy
or
disability
employment.
I
should
say
so:
yes
wes.
A
I
saw
your
your
note
to
drop
these
links
in
the
chat
and
I
absolutely
will
do
that.
I
don't
believe
there
is.
There
is
a
deadline.
It's
some
significant
time
away-
it's
not
like
in
two
days,
but
I
will
check
that
and
put
that
in
the
chat
as
well.
When
I
drop
the
links-
and
I
believe
yes,
that
is
all
that-
I
have
happy
to
take
any
questions-
that
I
can
answer
or
write
them
down
and
get
them
to
kristin.
If
you
have
questions
for
the
commissioner
thanks.
B
Okay,
this
is
wes,
I
guess
it's
silence,
so
there
are
no
questions.
Thank
you
very
much,
andrea
and
so
next,
moving
on
on
the
agenda.
D
B
A
That's
just
me
wes.
This
is
andrea.
Those
are
the
links
about
the
census
bureau
survey
and
the
comments
do
close
august
8th.
So
you've
got
some
time.
B
Now
we've
modified
the
letter
and
we
wanted
to
get
this
feedback
on
the
letter,
and
I
know
that
there
was
maybe
an
issue
related
to
the
flash
flush
patios
and
the
bridge
plates
of
the
flush,
patios
and
fridge
plates,
and
so
I
had
suggested
that
they
really
use
the
flush
plates
flush.
Patios.
I'm
sorry
because
I
thought
that
that
would
be
my
opinion.
I
guess,
but
I
actually
wanted
to
hear
the
board's
thoughts
on
this
issue
before
the
letter
is
finalized
and
we
sent
it
over
to
the
mayor's
office.
I
I
just
oh
there's
a
question
wes.
This
is
jerry.
I
haven't
seen
any
revised
drafts.
You
know,
has
that
gone
out
and
did
I
just
miss
it
or.
B
Yeah,
I
did,
let
me
add
all
I
did
was
add
the
recommendation
from
flush
patios
to
the
letter.
L
A
This
is
andrea,
it
was,
I
can
drop
a
link
in
the
chat.
It
was
also
included
in
the
email
that
I
sent
on
monday
with
the
agenda,
but
let
me
drop
a
link
in
the
chat.
I
Okay,
no
problem
I'll
take
a
look
either
either
place
is
fine.
I'm
not
that
well
versed
on
the
difference
between
the
two
items.
So
I
don't
know
if
patricia
can
can
give
us
a
two
second
primer
on
it
or
someone
can.
D
Hi
gary
I
haven't
had
the
chance
to
to
look
at
the
draft.
D
B
Okay,
so
let
me
just
I
was
planning
to
explain
just
a
little
bit
about
what
I
meant
so
I'll
do
my
best
to
describe
the
difference.
B
I
know
that
there's
they're
requesting
a
bridge
plate-
and
I
know
we
sort
of
understand
what
a
bridge
plate
is.
So,
if
you're
trying
to
get
down
a
ramp,
for
example,
it's
like
a
temporary
ramp,
but
a
flush.
Patio
is
really
it's
it's
a
type
of
setup
where
the
sidewalk
is
completely
flush
with
the
patio
so
at
the
same
level,
so
there's
no
need
for
a
ramp
or
a
bridge
plate
or
anything.
A
This
is
andrea.
I
know
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
postpone
a
vote
on
this.
I
think
olivia
was
the
one
who
had
suggested
come
language
about
the
bridge
plate
and
she's,
not
here
today,
so
I
don't
know.
If
that's,
maybe
that's
why
no
one
else
has
a
comment.
A
I'm
trying
to
think
if
we
could
make
a
vote
pending,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
could
pending
further.
You
know
that
would
be
a
pretty
significant
change.
If
olivia
has
concerns,
I
did
drop
a
link
in
the
chat,
though,
if
anyone
else
wants
to
read
it.
B
Okay,
so
again
this
is
wes.
I
can
give
the
board
a
few
minutes
to
take
a
quick
look
at
the
letter
and
then
share
any
sort
of
initial
thoughts,
so
I
can
hold
for
a
few
minutes.
While
you
do
that.
Okay,.
B
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
has
if
you've
had
the
chance
to
read
the
letter,
but
let
me
share
my
thoughts
about
this.
Actually,
my
thoughts
about
the
flush
patio
versus
the
bridge
plate
is
really.
I
don't
have
the
perspective
of
someone
who's
a
wheelchair
user,
but
I've
heard
from
other
wheelchair
users
about
this
issue.
B
It
takes
up
the
restaurant's
space
in
that
area
this.
So
in
this
way,
I
think
I'm
not
really.
I
think
this
would
give
a
little
bit
more
of
the
options
for
all
of
the
people
involved.
B
D
A
This
is
andrew.
I
see
patricia's
got
a
comment.
J
D
Yeah
so
now
now
I
understand
better
the
question
that
jerry
asked
me
before,
so
the
the
bridge
plate
is
the
same
as
the
portable
ramp
like
the
metal
piece.
So
now
I
understand
the
question
better
and
I
agree
that
the
flush
condition
of
a
parklet
is
a
much
much
better
option
for
outdoor
dining.
D
The
problem
with
the
portable
ramps
is
it's
a
it's
a
less.
It's
like
a
temporary
solution
that
we
thought
of
for
the
pandemic,
but
the
the
flash
condition
it's
a
super
superior
option.
100
agreed.
H
I
totally
agreed
that
that's
unpreferable
to
have
a
beef
flush.
I
have
no
sense
of
how
many
restaurants
would
fall
into
the
category
or
at
least
invoke
that
they
don't
have
the
necessary
space,
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
if,
if
there's
been
any
survey
or
if
we
have
any
data
or
information
on,
I
mean
I
I
guess
I
I
can
see
that
there
might
be,
it
might
be
necessary
to
include
an
exception.
H
A
This
is
andrea,
I
I
don't
necessarily
want
to
well.
I
definitely
don't
want
to
speak
for
olivia,
but
one
of
the
pieces
that
we
had
added
in
the
letter
or
I
had
added
in
the
letter
I
should
say
about
requiring
a
bridge
plate
when
a
flush
patio
can't
be
achieved
due
to
irregular
curb
heights.
Well,
what
I've
been
thinking
there
is:
we've
seen,
restaurants
that
build
patios.
A
That
is
flush
with
the
curb
for
four
of
the
feet,
but
then,
because
the
curb
height
changes,
it's
maybe
half
an
inch,
maybe
an
inch
at
the
rest
of
the
curb
not
enough
that
we
would
require
a
full
portable
ramp,
but
enough
that
that's
going
to
create
a
barrier
for
a
lot
of
folks,
and
so
while,
as
you
heard
from
patricia
our
office's
opinion,
is
that
a
flush
patio
is
the
ideal
condition
and
in
and
everyone
should
make
an
effort
to
achieve
that.
A
I
just
want
to
comment
that
we
added
the
bullet
of
if
that
can't
be
achieved
for
the
full
patio
because
of
your
regular
curb
heights.
That's
something
that
can
like
bridge
that
gap
at
least
a
little
bit,
so
that
wheels
aren't
getting
stuck
on
the
inch
or
or
stuck
in
a
gap
between
the
patio
and
the
curb
that
that's
when
we
should
require
a
bridge
plate
if
we
can't
actually
make
the
full
patio
flush.
If
that
makes
sense,
that's
what
I
was
going
for.
B
B
So
anyway,
that's
sort
of
my
point
on
this,
and
this
is
probably
the
best
solution,
especially
then,
because
you
know
it's
very
it's
very
busy
during
the
summer.
B
Okay,
so
jerry,
I
see
your
hands.
I
Yes,
thank
you
wes,
and
you
know
I
do.
I
did
look
at
the
at
the
letter
just
now
that
he
gave
us
time
to
look
at
it
and
I
I
you
know
wholeheartedly
support
this
draft
and,
and-
and
you
know-
and
I
do
agree
too-
that
of
course
we
want.
You
know
everyone
to
use
flesh
patios
when
you
know
ever
possible.
I
I'm
also
concerned,
like
elizabeth,
said,
that
that
there
may
be
restaurants
who,
who
you
know,
try
to
get
out
of
that
requirement,
but
I
also
know
that
we
don't
want.
We
don't
want
our
feedback
or
we
don't
want
the
program
to
be
punitive.
We
want
as
many
restaurants
as
possible
to
participate.
I
You
know
so
so
long
story
short
again.
I
wholeheartedly
support
the
draft
letter.
Obviously
you
know
it'll
need
to
be
cleaned
up,
for
you
know
spacing
and
and
all
that,
but
I'm
sure
you
know
andrea
or
other
staff
can
take
care
of
that.
But
I
don't
know,
do
we
need
a
vote
or
what
are
you
looking
for
from
us
at
this
point?
Wes.
B
Thank
you
very
much
jerry,
I'm
gonna
hold
before
we
discuss
the
voting
bit
but
jerry.
You
made
a
good
point
about
the
challenges
for
restaurants.
They
may
not
want
to
do
this
and
I
totally
understand
that-
and
I
can
understand
that
because,
as
I
said
in
the
north
end,
they
require
you,
they
pay
the
city
a
fee.
I
guess
very
different
from
other
neighborhood
restaurants.
They
don't
have
to
pay
this
particular
fee.
B
M
B
Gonna
do
maybe
give
them
some
sort
of
an
incentive
to
adhere
to
this
question.
I'm
not
sure,
however,
I
do
want
to
propose
to
andrea
that
maybe
suggests
that
we
can
wait
for
olivia
to
give
some
feedback
on
this
draft,
because
I
think
it's
very
important,
and
so
let
me
suggest
then,
that
someone
can
reach
out
to
olivia
and
get
her
thoughts
on
this,
and
then
maybe
we
can
do
some
sort
of,
I
suppose,
maybe
an
online
vote.
Once
we
get
her
feedback
on
that
we
could
do
an
online
vote
and
then.
E
E
Recommendation
that
we
go
ahead
and
get
olivia's
feedback
that
we
go
ahead
and
vote
tonight.
Assuming
that
olivia's
suggestions
will
be
friendly
to
the
purpose
of
the
letter
and
we
go
ahead
and
say
that
we
vote
to
send
a
letter
out
upon
olivia's
approval.
E
That
way,
we
don't
because
I
believe
that
we
have
to
do
the
vote
due
to
the
meeting
the
rules
of
the
meeting.
I
don't
know
I
I
just
would
like
to
get
this
out
sooner
than
later.
So
I
would
like
to
vote
that
we
get
the
olivia's
feedback
and
then
we
approve
the
letter
to
go
out.
M
B
B
A
This
is
andrea,
just
want
to
come
in
real,
quick
and
say
carl's
right
that
if
we
took
a
vote
in
some
other
fashion,
we'd
have
to
publicly
notice
it
48
hours.
That
said,
I
have
written
down
a
motion
to
vote
to
approve
the
letter
incorporating
any
amendments
olivia
makes
that
are
friendly
to
the
purpose
of
the
letter.
A
So
if
she
wants
to
get
half
of
it,
you
know
that
those
won't
be
incorporated,
but
clarification
of
the
purpose
of
the
bridge
plate
or
something
like
that.
Anything
that
is
friendly
to
that
purpose
will
be
incorporated
and
sent,
and
I
will
send
you
all
a
copy
of
those
amendments
before
delivering
it
to
the
fifth
floor.
I
I
so
is
that
is
that
the
motion.
K
H
B
I
know
alice
had
the
meeting.
However,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
quorum
still
applies.
Does
it
fandra.
A
B
All
right
great,
thank
you
all.
I'm
really
excited
to
see
so
really
this
this
change
made
in
the
letter,
so
hopefully
I'll
officially
be
split.
It.
Let's
see.
B
B
I
think
firstly,
I
think
I
want
to
focus
on
the
meeting
structure.
I
want
to
kind
of
get
a
pulse
from
the
advisory
board
on
what
you
think
is
working.
What
may
not
be
working
during
the
meetings.
B
I
think
that'll
be
really
helpful
to
me
to
change
the
future.
For
example,
I
think
would
be
helpful
possibly
to
have
you
know
online
voting.
That
would
be
nice,
but
it
might
be
helpful
first
off
to
be
having
perhaps
just
one
presentation
rather
than
two
before
we've
had
two
or
three
on.
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
the
board
spend
more
time
engaged
in
some
form
of
discussion
about
possible
policy
changes,
and
I'm
just
wondering
I'd
like
to
see
what
your
thoughts
are
on
that
approach.
B
Anything
related
specifically
to
the
meeting
agenda
structure
that
might
need
to
be
changed.
So
I'm
open
to
those
comments.
E
This
is
called
what
I
couldn't
agree
with
you
more
on
the
number
of
presentations.
I
think
that
would
be
not
the
presentation's
important,
but
if
we
keep
it
to
one
or
two
at
the
most,
never
three
we
can
have
more
time
to
do.
City
business-
I
I
agree
with
you
wholeheartedly.
H
Yes,
I
also
very
much
support
making
sure
that
the
number
of
presentations
one
is
preferable.
You
know
two
depending
on
how
you
know
some
combination
of
the
importance
of
the
topic,
the
detail
of
the
topic,
but
I
think
it's
hard
this
time
of
day,
especially
for,
but
with
there
it
does
get
to
be
presentation,
fatigue,
no
matter
what
what
the
presentation
is
and
also
I
have
been
in
settings
as
I've
referenced
earlier,
where
there
was
even
things
like
policy
changes.
H
There
was
more
of
a
an
active
or
an
on
an
ongoing
working
discussion.
We
certainly
have
done
that
on
some
topics
or
you
know
in
response
to
a
letter,
but
that
recognizing
the
open
meeting
laws
that
so
that,
because
sometimes
I
know
that
things
like
even
forming
subcommittees
got
a
little
tricky
in
that
regard.
But
even
if
it's
a
topic
to
be
discussed
in
in
the
timing
during
the
meeting,
I
don't
know,
if
that's
what
you
had
in
mind
west
as
part
of
policy
changes
or
if
that's
a
different
interpretation.
H
B
Yeah,
thank
you,
elizabeth.
I
appreciate
that
I
do
want
to
follow
up
on
your
comment,
so
you're,
meaning
really
there
are
two
ways.
The
first
way
is
that
we
could
make
policy
changes
that
will
be
impactful
to
the
disability
community
and
the
general
population
general
community
and
then
secondly,
the
bylaws.
Perhaps
I
don't
know
the
bylaws
or
the
open
meeting
rules.
Maybe
we
could
make
some
sort
of
change
if
necessary,
to
that's
another
way
that
we
could
probably
do
this,
but
again,
I'm
open
to
thoughts
on
that.
This.
A
Is
andrea,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
can
look
at
open
meeting
law
regulations
for
subcommittees.
I
don't
know
if
they
have
to
do
the
48
hours
and
have
public
input
that
sort
of
thing.
So
I
can
look
into
that
and
get
that
question
answered
because
I
just
don't
know
and
in
terms
of
a
working
meeting.
We
have
enough
computers
here,
as
I'm
sure
you
saw
I'm
here
twice
that
I'd
be
happy
to
sort
of
be
the
scribe
on
a
google
doc.
A
C
It's
all
good,
andrea.
Thank
you
very
much
wesley.
I
am
so
I'm
going
to
say
so.
Let
me
backtrack,
so
I
personally
am
flexible
regarding
the
presentations.
They
are
important,
but
they
are
like.
There
is
value
in
all
the
presentations,
definitely
by
personally
I'm
flexible
as
to
how
many
presentations
there
are.
However,
I
am
definitely
truth
about
the
policy
topics
so
about
the
policies.
C
I'm
definitely
interested
in
that
because
there's
just
so
many
things
that
we
want
that
we
as
a
boy
want
to
discuss
and
talk
about
and
see
how
we
can
what
we
can
do
to
improve
the
parties
for
people
with
disabilities
in
boston.
So
I'm
definitely
on
board
with
that,
I'm
not
quite
sure
exactly.
I
think
I
think
elizabeth
already
clarified
that
when
she'd
ask
me
questions
I'm
definitely
on
board
with
talking
about
the
tall
season,
but
because
it's
jim
crow,
yes,
I'm
a
boy.
Thank
you.
B
I
want
to
figure
out
what
the
priorities
should
be
because
you
know
we
are
the
board
members.
We
have
a
board
meeting
every
month
and
it's
just
two
hours
which
isn't
a
lot
of
time.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
all
sort
of
have
this
benefit
for
the
community.
We
can
do
work
that
benefits
the
disability
community
in
boston.
B
It's
effectively,
it's
possible
okay,
so
go
ahead.
I
think.
I
Great
thanks
again
wes
and
thanks
for
bringing
up
this
topic,
you
know
I
I'd
like
to
see
I'd
like
to
see
these
meetings
with
more
engagement
from
the
public
as
well.
You
know,
since
I've
been
on
the
on
the
board.
You
know
this
is
my
middle
of
my
second
term.
So,
almost
almost
six
years
on
the
board,
I've
seen
you
know
public
participation
decline.
I
You
know
at
various
times,
so
I'd
like
to
try
to
figure
out
a
way
that
that
we
can
get
more
public
engagement,
not
just
at
the
yearly
community
community
forum
that
we
have
which
was
well
attended
this
year.
I
was
there
in
person,
but
I'd
like
to
see
these
meetings,
be
these
monthly
meetings
be
well
attended
by
the
by
the
public
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
can
put
together
a
survey
or
or
somehow
to
get
a
pulse
from
the
from
the
community.
I
You
know
how
we
can
best
meet
their
needs
and
I
you
know-
and
I've
thought
about
the
idea
in
the
past
of
maybe
having
more
meetings
in
the
community
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
that
we
want
to.
You
know
work
on
as
well.
I
don't
always.
I
don't
necessarily
have
answers
to
these
questions.
B
Yeah
yeah
jerry-
I
I
think
that's
actually
the
second
part
of
a
new
business.
So
that's
a
good
segue
community
input
right
having
more
community
input.
B
I
guess
this
is
really
great,
but
I
think
there's
plenty
of
room.
I
think
these
meetings
are
really
great,
there's
plenty
of
room
for
improvement,
of
course,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
additional
public
input
and
we
want
to
make
a,
I
guess
and
make
sure
that
the
efforts
being
made
so
that
we
can
be
open
to
other
perspectives
as
well.
So
I'm
open
to
any
other
perspectives
on
this.
A
This
is
andrea,
just
want
to
note
that
there
is
a
comment
of
the
chat
from
a
former
quincy
board
member
who
always
had
five
to
ten
minutes
of
public
input
at
the
end
of
meetings.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
comment
on
that.
B
Yeah
we
tend
to
hold
the
public
input
for
the
end
of
our
board
meetings.
We
do
have
that.
B
A
This
is
andrew
again
to
jerry's
suggestion
of
a
survey
as
with
the
letters
and
other
things,
we're
always
happy
to
be
the
one
to
create
the
link
and
type
up
all
your
notes.
If
you
have
questions
you
want
to
ask,
certainly
something
that
can
be
put
out
in
our
newsletter.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you
andrea.
I
guess.
Then,
we've
collected
some
really
good
thoughts
and
some
perspectives
this
evening
on
these
issues,
and
so
I'm
assuming
that
we
we
should
be
able
to
get
some
more.
We
should
be
able
to
incorporate
some
of
these
suggestions
as
well
to
focus
on
this.
So
thank
you
all
all
right,
so
hopefully,
then
we're
going
to
go
on
now
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
B
And
that
is,
of
course,
the
under
new
business.
B
So,
as
many
of
us
know,
we
kind
of
liked
enjoyed
this
approach
to
having
these
remote
public
meetings
and
the
board.
B
B
A
I
I
will
update
on
that
note
for
our
specific
board.
As
far
as
I
know,
right
now,
technically
the
pandemic
era
amendments
like
executive
order,
amendments
that
allow
all
of
us
to
be
remote
and
on
friday
the
legislature
is
considering
another
temporary
extension
of
those
temporary
allowances
for
the
rest
of
the
year.
A
M
B
I
Yes,
thank
you
wesley.
I'm
a
bit
confused.
I
guess
I
know
that
there's
advocacy
going
on
you
know
with
the
state
to
make
you
know
open.
You
know
open
meetings.
You
know
virtual
open
meetings
permanent,
but
I
thought
the
city
there
was
something
an
ordinance
being
flooded
or
or
the
city
was
kind
of
in
a
different
place.
I
Am
I
incorrect
in
that
andrea,
based
on
what
you're,
what
you're
saying
that
the
that
they
were
that
the
city
was
also
going
by
the
the
state,
but
I
thought
there
was
some
advocacy
around
you
know
trying
to
get
the
city
to
to
also
go
to
permanent
virtual.
You
know,
if
possible,
as
well.
A
Great
question
jerry,
so
they're
sort
of
trying
to
make
this
a
simple,
because
my
brain
likes
to
complicate
things,
there's
what
we're
allowed
to
do
under
open
meeting
law
and
by
we
I
mean
public
meetings,
people,
the
air
quality
control,
commission,
the
landmarks
commission,
etc.
A
We
have
some
additional
flexibility
as
a
disability
commission
which,
on
the
one
hand,
is
great,
but
that's
assuming
people
with
disabilities,
don't
care
about
historical
landmarks
or
air
quality
which,
as
we
all
know,
is
not
true.
The
city
is
abiding
by
the
state
law
that
currently
allows
for
remote
attendance,
but
assuming
that
that
goes
away,
everyone
has
to
come
back
in
person,
assuming
it
doesn't
go
away.
If
the
state
decides
to
extend
this
forever
likely,
it
would
be
an
option.
A
So,
for
example,
I
think
some
folks
have
read
the
headlines
at
the
governor's
council
when
they
no
longer
had
to
stopped
broadcasting
their
meetings
and
with
sustained
public
advocacy,
came
back
online
and
started
streaming
it.
So
I
think
the
issues
here
are
the
legal
issues
of
whether
or
not
folks
are
allowed
to
offer
remote
participation
in
their
meetings,
which
is
still
an
open
question.
A
I
Yeah,
although
you
know
I
do
know
that
you
know
we've
always
since
I've
been
on
the
board,
we've
always
offered,
you
know,
we've
always
broadcast
them,
and,
and
people
have
always
been
able.
People
of
the
public
have
always
been
able
to
participate
by
calling
in
if
they
choose.
So
I'm
still,
I
guess
I'm
still
a
little.
B
B
You
know
we
found
that
the
virtual
meetings
are
actually
very
inclusive,
much,
maybe
more
so
than
the
the
in-person
meetings,
and
so,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
other
examples
of
justifications
that
we
could
add
to
this
letter,
but
anything
that
any
other
benefits
to
having
these
remote
public
meetings.
B
You
know
would
be
helpful.
I
mean
we
could
have.
I
think
we've
got
the
option
of
having
in
person
and
virtual,
but
I'm
sure
there
are
other
examples
that
you
might
have
so
I
mean
it
saves
having
to
run
in
person
to
get
to
a
meeting
on
time.
You
know
the
commute
time
and
all
of
that,
all
of
that
the
logistics.
A
This
is
andrea.
For
the
sake
of
time
I
mean
I
defer
to
wes
on
going
going
overtime,
but
I
can
prepare
a
few.
I
can
send
a
few
links
to
let
the
board
know
what
is
going
on
what
the
status
is
of
legally
allowed
virtual
meetings
versus
just
who's
choosing
to
engage
in
them,
and
I'm
happy
to
to
share
more
educational
resources
to
prepare
for
a
future
meeting.
A
D
B
Great
all
right,
then,
so
again.
B
B
I
see
someone
is
someone
I
don't
see.
Any
carl
is
carl
here,
no
okay!
So
if
carl's
not
here,
then
who's
going
to
make
the
motion.
I
This
is
yeah.
This
is
jerry
I'll,
be
happy
to
make
the
motion
in
in
carl's
stint.
C
B
Okay,
so
it
seems
that
the
meeting
is
now
adjourned,
it's
adjourning
at
7
29..
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
have
a
great
evening
bye.
Everyone.