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From YouTube: Disability Commission Advisory Board Meeting 1/18/2023
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Disability Commission Advisory Board Meeting 1/18/2023
A
Good
evening,
the
open
meeting
law
requires
that
I
notify
the
public
that
this
meeting
is
recorded.
Therefore,
Please
be
aware
that
an
audio
and
visual
recording
of
this
meeting
is
being
made
by
Boston
City
TV,
a
part
of
the
city
of
Boston
office
of
cable
communications
and
is
being
broadcast
on
Xfinity
channel
24
RCN
channel
13
and
FiOS
channel
962.
I'll
hand
it
now
to
our
board
chair,
Wesley
Ireland.
B
Good
evening,
everyone
welcome
to
the
first
meeting
of
the
new
year,
23rd
2023
and
happy
New
Year
everyone
I'm,
going
to
call
to
order
the
meeting
and
open
it
up
now
and
we're
going
to
start
off
with
introductions
from
the
board
as
well
as
for
myself.
I'm
Wesley
and
I
got
two
female
interpreters
with
me.
B
C
E
F
G
H
B
D
I
B
H
K
Hi
this
is
Kristen
McCosh.
The
commissioner
I
just
want
to
jump
in.
For
one
moment
foreign
I
just
want
to.
Let
people
know
that
we
have
a
new
board
member
joining
us
tonight.
All
that
direct,
so
I
wanted
to
throw
it
to
her
to
introduce
herself
and
I
know
she
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting.
So
she
may
not
have
chosen
to
vote
on
the
meeting
minutes,
but
I
would
like
to
let
her
introduce
herself
to
the
group.
L
L
A
M
M
Focused
on
outpatient
practices
of
Physicians
caring
for
adult
patients
and
I'm,
also
a
member
of
the
disability,
Community
I've
used
a
wheelchair
forever
and
a
lot
of
my
disabled
kind
of
friends
say
to
me.
Lisa,
you
haven't
told
me
anything
new,
you've,
just
kind
of
told
us
what
we
already
know,
but
nevertheless
it's
often
really
helpful
to
have
numbers
to
attach
to
kind
of
feelings
and
experiences
that
you've
had.
M
Okay,
so
again,
I'm
not
telling
you
anything,
you
don't
know.
The
first
thing
is
that
the
Ada
requires
people
with
disability
to
receive
the
same
quality
of
care
as
other
people,
and
this
might
require
reasonable
accommodations
next
slide,
okay,
but
more
than
a
third
of
doctors
report
knowing
little
or
nothing
about
their
legal
responsibilities
under
the
Ada
when
caring
for
patients
with
disabilities.
M
Only
about
40
percent
of
Physicians
always
are
usually
use
height,
adjustable,
expand
tables.
Those
are
tables
that
automatically
go
up
and
down
for
patients
to
transfer
onto
and
in
fact
only
a
third
of
primary
care.
Physicians,
use,
height,
adjustable
exam
tables
and
pretty
much
no
Physicians
ever
use
a
lift
device
like
a
Hoyer
lift.
M
N
M
Never
use
video
remotes
sign
language
interpreters,
so
basically
they
don't
provide
the
best
accommodation
for
people
who
want
sign
language
interpreters
instead,
50
of
Physicians
simply
always
are
usually
just
speak,
louder
and
slower
to
patients
who
are
deaf
or
hard
of
hearing
again.
Fifty
percent,
almost
just
always,
are
usually
speak
to
the
patient's
companion
and
a
third
always
are
usually
just
write.
Notes
on
paper
next
slide.
M
Oh,
we
want
Physicians
to
be
confident
that
they
can
provide
the
same
quality
of
care
to
people
with
disabilities
as
they
provide
to
other
people,
but
only
42
percent
of
Physicians
are
very
confident
that
they
can
provide
the
same
quality
of
care
to
their
disabled
patients
as
to
other
patients.
Next
slide.
M
And
when
you
add
up
these
numbers
and
you
account
for
weights,
that's
a
statistical
speed,
but
anyway,
let
me
just
give
you
the
bottom
line
number
here
and
that
is
that
82
of
doctors
think
that
people
with
significant
disability
have
overall,
worse
quality
of
life
than
other
people.
Again,
82
percent
of
doctors
think
that
disabled
people
have
worse
quality
of
life
than.
G
M
M
M
I
had
a
disability,
so
the
Physicians
were
just
kind
of
talking
and
just
kind
of
talking
to
each
other,
and
you
know
just
kind
of
like
they
would
talk
without
knowing
that
they
were
had
a
disabled
audience
in
front
of
them
is
that
they
were
not
very
flattering
about
people
with
disabilities.
They
think
that
people
with
disabilities
are
two
kind
of
entitled,
and
one
of
them
talked
about
people
with
disabilities
wanting
to
bring
their
service
peacock
to
their
appointments
with
them.
M
Some
Physicians
talked
about
ways
that
they
try
to
get
people
with
disabilities
out
of
their
practices,
and
so
it
was
not
a
flattering
portrayal.
Okay,
so
that's
the
end
of
my
presentation.
So
final
slide
is
just
a
big
question.
Mark
I
think
yeah.
So
it's
just
big
question
mark.
So
let's
get
rid
of
the
slides.
M
So
at
this
point
you
know,
let
me
just
say
that
if
people
want
to
learn
more
about
our
survey,
results
trust
me
I'm,
a
researcher
there's
a
lot
out
there
that
I
can
send
to
you.
If
you
just
want
to
send
me
an
email
and
I
can
send
you
more
details,
but
at
this
point
I'd
just
like
it
to
open
the
floor
to
see
if
people
have
any
comments
or
questions
for
me
about
our
survey.
C
M
I'm
delighted
to
be
here
and
basically
I
feel
so
strongly
about
this-
that
whenever
anybody
invites
me
to
get
this
presentation,
I
basically
always
say
yes,
because
I've
been
doing
this
research
for
25
years
and
trying
to
get
people
to
notice,
and
it's
been
a
tough
haul
and
so
I'm
just
glad
that.
Finally,
we
have
some
numbers
out
there
that
people
can
notice
and
can
maybe
start
helping
make
policy
makers
hear
us.
C
H
N
H
I
know:
we've
done
a
lot
of
work.
You
know
through
vcil
they've
done.
You
know
specific
work
with
Boston
Medical
Center
and
before
that
Mass
General,
to
bring
some
of
these
issues
to
light
and
to
and
to
really
work
with
those
facilities
and
their
practices
on
increasing
accessibility
for
for
patients
with
disabilities
and
and
Zari
has
taken
up
up
that
work.
You
know
at
at
Mass
General
internally,
but
but
what
else
can
we
do
Lisa
as
a
board
as
a
disability
Community
as
a
as
a
larger
community
in
Greater
Boston?
H
M
But
let
me
just
say:
I
recently
had
to
go
in
for
a
minor
procedure,
and
this
is
an
anecdote.
So
I
know
we
don't
like
anecdotes,
it's
just
an
N
of
one
I
couldn't
get
onto
the
exam
table
because
it
wasn't
a
height,
adjustable
exam
table,
and
fortunately
my
husband
was
with
me
and
he
had
to
help
me
get
onto
the
exam
table,
and
this
was
at
a
big
Boston
teaching
Hospital,
and
so
we
know
again.
M
This
is
just
an
N
of
one,
and
probably
some
people
on
this
call
could
tell
us
whether
they've
had
similar
experiences
not
just
about
Mobility
but
also
communication,
accommodations
and
other
accommodations.
That
people
need
that.
We
still
know
that
we're
not
fixed
even
for
very
basic
things,
like
exam
tables.
M
You
know
an
exam
table
should
be
such
an
easy
thing,
because
we
know,
for
example,
that
practice
assistance
at
Physicians
offices
have
a
high
rate
of
Occupational
injuries,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
to
keep
everybody
around
us
safe.
Not
just
us,
you
know,
and
doctors
come
at
different
heights.
You
know
so
doctors
should
have
a
table
set
at
a
height.
That's
ergonomically
good
for
them
to
do
the
best
exam
on
us
that
they
can.
M
C
E
E
I
have
to
and
I
have
to
say,
unfortunately,
from
so
I'm
in
medical
field
as
well
and
I
have
to
say,
unfortunately,
I'm
not
surprised
with
the
numbers
I've
seen
some
of
this
when
I
I
want
to
see
in
hospitals
but
as
well
as
in
small
practices
and
I.
Remember
I
mean
I'm
just
going
to
share
the
story,
because
this
is
because
this
is.
This
speaks
volumes,
especially
for
this
gr
statistics.
E
E
Okay,
no
I
wasn't
afraid
of
this,
so
we
were
doing
a
procedure
on
him
and
he
he
was
getting
I'm
assuming
he
was
being
overwhelmed
and
he
started
using
hand,
gestures
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
he
was
able
to
speak
American
Sign
Language
when
he
was
using
Hangouts
just
to
explain
what
to
explain
his
needs
and
I
was
with
she
did
not
want
to.
She
did
not
want
pay
attention
to
the
handgun.
She
wanted
him
to
communicate
verbally
and
I
thought.
This
is
not
right.
Why?
E
Why,
if
that's
just
what,
if
that's
his
way,
how
you
want
to
communicate,
let
him
communicate
that
we're
trying
to
understand
and
trying
to
help
them
in
this
during
this
medical
appointment,
so
I
mean
it's
obvious
that
you
should
be
able
to
try
to
accommodate
him
and
that's
why
I'm
not
surprised
that
14
was
just
sharing
and
I.
Just
wonder
if
he'll
kind
of
a
Jerry's
question.
E
What
is,
why
is
this
happening?
Is
there
is
there
like
why?
Why
is
the
medical
profession?
Why
are
they
some
medical
professionals?
Why
are
they
not?
Why
is
so?
Why
is
so
hard
to
get
in
trouble
today?
Why
can't
they
provide
or
why
are
they
not?
Why
do
fish
not
want
them
to
provide
an
ASL
interpreter?
Why
what
is
is
there?
Is
there
miscommunication
why?
Why
is
there
so
many
I
want
to
use
the
word
friction
because
that's
what
it
feels
like
to
me.
So
why
did
this
happen
to
me?
Is
there
like?
E
M
So
they
feel
that
they're
losing
money
every
time
they
have
an
ASL
interpreter,
but
guess
what
you
know.
I
suspect
that
some
other
like
not
take
that
much
time,
and
so
they
make
money
on
other
patients.
I
mean
it's
just
not
a
valid
argument
to
make
okay
and
but
it
is
true
when
you
look
at
it
that
a
lot
of
places
require
that
you
hire
an
ASL
interpreter
for
like
two
hours.
You
can't
just
hire
them
for
an
hour
or
something
like
that,
and
and
so
it
is
expensive
again,
I.
M
Don't
think
it's
a
valid
excuse,
but
there
are
places
around
the
country
that
are
beginning
to
see
whether
there
is
some
way
to
handle
this
expense,
because
in
fact
the
costs
of
all
accommodations
are
supposed
to
be
borne
by
the
practice
they
can't
be
charged
to
insurance.
They
can't
be
charged
to
the
patient.
They
have
to
be
born
by
the
practice
again.
I
think
that
that's
a
pretty
weak
excuse
for
non-hiring
ASL
interpreters
are
not
using
remote.
M
B
G
Sorry,
hi
Lisa,
how
are
you
this
is
Carl
I,
don't
think
we've
seen
each
other
from
London,
so
I'm
thinking
what
was
the
root
of
the
problem
and
I'm
thinking?
Has
there
been
given
any
thought
as
to
trying
to
develop
a
curriculum
to
teach
a
medical
student,
the
issues
regarding
the
Ada
and
the
obligation,
and
it
goes
beyond
understanding
the
Ada,
because
the
Ada
code,
you
know
having
a
table
that
adjustable
height,
providing
you
know,
communication
access,
but
the
doctor
was
how
we
are
perceived
as
individual
that
were
not
broken.
G
M
It's
a
great
question
Carl
and
yes,
in
fact,
there
has
been
recently
a
lot
of
effort
about
developing
what
they
call
disability
competencies.
Medical
training
now
is
all
about
competencies
in
in
how
you
treat
different
types
of
conditions
and
there's
a
group
out
at
the
Ohio
State
University
in
Ohio.
That
has
really
been
doing
a.
M
Not
just
focused
on
Physicians
but
other
Health
Care
Professionals,
in
training
like
nurses,
physical
therapists,
occupational
therapists,
each
language,
Pathologists
and
so
on,
and
what's
been
great
about
what
the
state
people
have
been
doing
is
that
they
also
brought
in
people
with
disabilities
to
be
part
of
the
conversations,
as
well
as
some
of
their
caregivers,
and
so
it's
actually
sleep
in
a
really
great
initiative.
However,
you
know
whenever
I
talk
about
this
I
always
talk
about
what
in
medical
education
is
called
the
real
estate.
M
Given
the
one
hour
lecture
that
medical
students
over
the
course
of
the
four
years
will
ever
have
one
hour
isn't
enough,
and
so
my
feeling
is
that
a
lot
of
medical
education
now
is
quote
unquote:
case-based
training,
where
they
talk
about
cases
of
asthma,
cases
of
diabetes
cases
of
heart
failure.
Well,
guess
what
every
single
one
of
those
has
a
disability
component
to
it.
M
So,
if
you're
going
to
talk
about
cases
by
disease,
bring
in
a
comment
about
disability
for
each
of
them,
and
so
I
know
that
that's
something
that
Harvard
Medical
School
is
starting
to
try
to
do.
But
you
know
the
other
thing
is
that
it
takes
seven
years
to
make
an
internist
okay,
four
years
in
medical
school
and
three
years
of
postgraduate
training,
we
don't
have
time
to
wait
to
replace
all
these
ableist
Physicians
if
it
takes
seven
years
to
train
a
whole
new
batch
of
them.
M
So
we
need
to
start
thinking
about
whether
continuing
medical,
education
and
regulations
for
licensure,
renewals
and
so
on
can
begin
to
require
that
practicing
positions
out.
There
also
have
some
teaching
about
disability
and
I'm
extremely
aware
of
the
time,
because
I
know
that
you've
got
a
busy
schedule
and
so
Leslie.
You
need
to
tell
me
when
it's
time
to
stop
okay.
I
Hello,
thank
you
so
nice
to
see
you
again.
Lisa
Dr,
isoni,
oh,
come
here.
Lisa,
please
yeah!
This
was
very
helpful
to
having
read
the
articles
we'll
give
the
context,
and
even
things
like
that
there
weren't
the
the
funds
to
include
these.
These
were
the
most
important
Specialties
that
many
patients
with
disabilities
will
come
across.
I
But
of
course,
as
we
all
know,
you
know,
people
with
with
various
disabilities
have,
you
know,
might
have
skin
issues
and
need
a
dermatologist,
and
so
all
those
issues
about
tables
practices
that
really
even
at
least
some
neurology
knowledge
and
practices
and
some
perhaps
Orthopedic
practices
have
accommodation.
Although
I
think
Orthopedics
Iran
would
be
available
for
some
patients.
It's
a
shorter
term
problem
in
some
Specialties,
it
seems
or
GI
clinics
that
don't
have
any
kind
of
scale
a
way
to
know
someone's
accurate
right
lately,
I
was
so
I
know.
I
Jerry
had
already
asked
about
ways
we
can
help
and
they
I
appreciate
the
invite
us
to
pursue
that
further,
and
certainly
anxiety
continues
to
very
actively
help
at
MGH.
But
I
I
did
want
to
follow
up
on
the
point
about
education.
I
think
that's
an
excellent
idea
about
continuing
education,
because
all
the
Texas
had
a
program
for
more
than
10
years
in
the
third
year,
Family
Medicine
clerkship,
where
they
they
interview,
standardized
patients
who
have
either
a
both
a
physical
in
one
setting.
I
It's
someone
with
a
physical
disability,
whether
it's
that
they're
in
a
wheelchair
they
use
crutches,
they
use
a
guide
dog
and
in
the
other
case
it's
somebody
on
the
autism
spectrum
and
that
I
think
the
students,
always
you
know,
rate
that
well.
The
evaluation
is
well
received
because
they
know
these
are
people
with
lived
experience.
But
I
do
think
this
I
do
think
training
doctors,
but
that's
a
very
important
piece
about
continuing
and
on
that
in
thinking
about
that.
At
the
end
of
the
focus
group,
did
you
self-identify
and
that
was
okay.
M
M
So
as
they
started
saying
all
these
unbelievable
things,
I
was
just
like
that's
really
interesting.
Why
don't
you
tell
me
more,
you
know,
and
so
they
did.
They
said
more
terrible
things
you
know,
but
the
point
is
to
not
make
them
feel
threatened
but
to
make
them
feel
safe,
so
they
will
say
what
they
naturally
would
want
to
say.
And
so
that's
why
you
know
our
focus.
Group
findings
were
you
know
really
troubling,
because
that's
what
Physicians
wanted
to
talk
about
when
they
talk
to
each
other
about
people
with
disabilities.
I
F
Yes,
thank
you.
Wes
Lisa,
we've
never
met,
but
I
have
to
say
how
your
your
study
is
so
important.
The
people
on
this
Commission
are
a
wonderful
committed
group
of
people
who
have
insights
into
the
kinds
of
issues
that
you've
studied,
but
unfortunately
the
general
public
doesn't
have
and
and
I
don't
think.
Hopefully
folks
will
agree
with
me
when
I
say
this-
that
there's
no
one
on
this
commission
who
doesn't
feel
for
the
issues
that
you've
outlined
in
their
kishkis.
F
If
you
know
what
kishkis
means,
I
actually
have
a
I
have
a
proposal
for
Action
I,
your
you
were
I
think
it
was
Jessica
Bartlett
wrote
in
October
6.
She
wrote
an
article
in
the
globe.
Your
study
obviously
preceded
that
I
mean
this
is
not.
These
are
not
small
issues.
I
mean
there
are
people
who
I
mean
I,
don't
even
know
how
many
probably
thousands
of
people
in
our
city
who
are.
F
Not
able
to
live
the
lives
they
have,
they
should
be
able
to
have
and
the
length
of
time
they
should
be
able
to
live
because
of
the
types
of
issues
that
you
are
studying
brought
to
light.
I
was
a
little
there's
a
little
curveball
for
me
and
I'll
tell
you
one
in
a
second
one.
You
said
it
was
a
national
study.
F
I
was
kind
of
hoping
it
was
a
Boston
study
and
I
believe
that
when
you
have
action
you
need
to
it
needs
to
be
fact-based.
So
I
actually
have
a
proposal
I'd
like
to
ask
you
about
and
then
see
if
the
commission
might
actually
adopt,
because
I
don't
think
the
issues
you've
raised
should
wait
a
minute
longer,
and
so
my
proposal
is
that
we,
this
commission,
quotes
to
have
the
Boston
city
council
commission,
maybe
if
we
have
to
run
this
through
the
mayor's
office.
F
First,
fine,
the
Boston
city
council,
to
commission
a
study,
a
Boston
study
and
perhaps
engage
you
to
do
it.
I
have
no
doubt
zero
doubt
that
they
will
find
it.
We
might
do
it
a
little
better
than
other
places
in
the
country,
but
I
have
no
doubt
we're
not
perfect
in
that.
What
they'll
find
in
Boston
is
at
least
approximate
to
what
you
found
nationally
and
I
I.
Don't
want
to
speak
for
everybody,
but
this
is
so
disturbing
to
me
that
I
think
we
need
to
do
something
about
it.
F
That
and
I
don't
know
what
that
would
look
like
I'm
sure
the
doctors
will,
you
know,
want
to
appear
and
we'll
get.
You
know,
it'll
be
a
lobbying
thing
and
all
that
goes
on
there,
but
but
that,
at
the
end
of
the
line,
This
sitting
Council,
which
I
think
is,
is
more
sensitized
to
these
issues
than
maybe
previous
ones.
F
F
It
says
you
know:
doctors
have
to
do
in
the
city
of
Boston
Community
Practice,
here
the
following
things:
whether
it's
providing
translators,
whether
it's
making
sure
they
have
the
proper
equipment,
whether
it
says
that
they
cannot
it's
pretty
unlocked
I,
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
civil
rights
work
and
have
in
my
life,
I'm,
pretty
sure
turning
down
a
patient
and
disabled
isn't
is
unlawful
and
I.
Think
you
have
one
of
your
slides
talk
about
that
that
it
requires
those
who
want
to
practice
in
Boston
to
have
certain
equipment.
F
Well,
I
think
I
can
say:
confidently
feel
this
kind
of
issues
in
in
their
kishkis
that
we
should
do
something
about
this
now
and
I.
Don't
know
that
we
can
do
anything
more
than
that,
particularly
as
a
commission
but
I
think
we
should
at
least
do
that
and
that's
my
recommendation
and
he
said
I
wonder
what
you
think
of
that
and
I
wonder
what
other
Commissioners
may
think
of
that.
M
N
M
Other
study
that
I've
done
before
this
has
been
talking
directly
to
people
with
disabilities
and
I've
been
the
one
who's
done.
The
interviews
because
I
love
interviewing
people
and
hearing
their
stories
and
and
to
Elizabeth's
comment
when
I
do
interviews
with
people
with
disabilities.
I
do
self-identify
as
having
a
disability,
because
you
know
it's
just
helpful
to
me
for
them
to
know
that
I
have
a
disability.
Let
me
just
say
Richard
that
I
think
that
and
Jerry
can
speak
to
this
as
well.
M
You
know
how
about
the
ASL
interpreters,
though
you
know
so
I,
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
players
that
you
would
need
to
know.
First,
what
people
have
already
been
doing
out
there
and
where
they
face
Roblox,
because
I
know
that
some
of
these
legal
efforts
have
have
come
a
Cropper.
You
know
they
haven't
succeeded,
and
so
what
have
been
the
barriers
to
moving
forward
on
this,
so
I
think
you
know
Kristin
says
in
the
chat
that
she's
been
involved
in
this.
It's
just.
M
And
so
we
can't
do
anything
until
we've
got
data
out
there,
and
so
you
know,
I'm
hoping
that
and
Massachusetts
Health
Quality
partnership,
they've
recently
emailed
me
that
they're
going
to
try
to
collect
data
on
disability
for
their
efforts
to
look
at
quality
of
care
and
private
practices.
And
so
we
need
to
kind
of
do
an
inventory
of
what
we've
got,
what
we
don't
have,
where
the
gaps
are
and
then
really
figure
out.
M
M
F
We've
just
met,
but
I
already
love
you
but
yeah
and
again
call
me
Lisa,
okay,
okay
and
I.
Think
that's
the
least
that
I
should
be
able
to
do
right.
What
I'm
talking
about
is
gathering
data
relating
to
the
city,
not
you
know
plucking
it
from
here
or
there
who's
doing
what
and
which
I
I
think
could
be
quite
a
task
to
to
accomplish.
F
Commissioner
McCosh
and
and
her
staff
have
a
lot
on
their
agenda.
My
idea
is
to
suggest
that
the
city
council
take
this
on
WE
and
and
commit
we're
all
volunteers.
We
have
other
jobs,
it's
not
I,
don't
think
within
our
ability,
as
Commissioners
to
do
this
research
yeah,
so
I'm
looking
for
I'm.
Looking
for
a
a
way
to
address
this
that
isn't
piecemeal,
it's
comprehensive
that
someone
can
do.
I
cannot
believe
that
we
could
not
persuade
the
city
council.
If
that's
the
way
to
go
here,
that
this
isn't
a
worthwhile
Endeavor
hi.
K
Richard
commissioner
I
just
want
to
jump
in
to
add
a
little
context
and
guidance,
so
thank
you
so
much
Lisa
Dr
izoni
for
your
really
enlightening
presentation
and
when
we
first
saw
your
article
a
few
months
ago,
as
you
said
at
the
beginning,
like
you're
preaching
to
the
choir,
we
know
this
is
the
way
it
is.
We
were
not
surprised.
K
Some
of
our
new
board
members
may
have
not
been
as
aware
of
the
issues,
but
those
of
us
who
use
wheelchairs
like
myself,
were
acutely
aware
of
these
issues,
but
just
to
see
it
in
black
and
white.
Really,
you
know
it
drives
the
point
home.
So
Richard
I
understand
when
you
see
it,
it's
so
infuriating,
it's
so
unfair
and
it
goes
against
people's
civil
rights
that
you
just
want
to.
You
know
you
have
the
urge
to
do
something,
but
I
think
Lisa
gave
some
really
some
good
wisdom
when
she
said
like.
K
They
do
advocacy
on
Independent,
Living
and
I've,
been
involved
in
their
work,
on
advocacy
with
the
big
hospitals
for
over
10
years,
probably
15
years
as
sorry
has
as
well,
I,
know
and
and
Jerry,
and
we
did
work
with
the
big
hospitals.
One
big
accomplishment
that
we
got
was
to
allow
pcas
to
actually
do
care
in
a
hospital
which
is
a
huge
barrier
for
people
like
me
and
other
like
people
with
more
severe
disabilities.
K
K
F
F
So
if
we're
going
to
do
that,
let's
do
it
fast
and
let's
get
to
the
bottom
of
whatever
it
is
folks
feel
they
need
to
know
about.
What's
going
on
there
as
soon
as
we
possibly
can-
and
let's
do
something
about
it,
then
let's
not
wait
in
the
article
that
I
saw
in
the
globe
when
I
brought
this
up.
I
mean
it
was
October
6th,
okay,
we're
almost
probably
four
months
later,
that's
four
months
where
people
have
had
to
live
with,
but
Lisa
reported
on
and
what
her
study
involved
to
me.
That's
that's!
J
A
Please,
yes,
of
course
this
is
Andrea
Olivia
Richard
put
in
the
chat.
This
sounds
like
a
chance
to
write
a
letter
to
the
Boston
Public
Health
commission.
To
say
we
want
them
to
look
into
this
and
Wes.
You
noted
we
could
write
a
letter
to
the
Massachusetts
Board
of
registration
and
medicine
for
further
action
for
those
who
dispute
at
specific
Physicians
for
for
discrimination.
F
J
C
I
want
to
respect
everybody's
time
this
evening
and
again.
I
do
want
to
thank
Dr
izoni
for
sharing
your
statistics
and
the
information
with
the
board
and
allowing
us
to
gather
more
information
to
collect
our
thoughts
to
review
further
actions
that
we
can
take
at
the
next
meeting.
I
think
we
can
table
the
discussion
and
go
further
with
this
under
new
business
for
next
month
and
then
we'll
also
give
people
time
to
think
about
other
resources
and
to
see
what
others
are
doing.
M
C
C
It's
been
in
the
news
several
newspapers
and
on
social
media
The
Washington
Post,
for
example,
I
was
contacted
by
a
friend
who
lives
in
DC,
and
she
admits
that
she
really
wishes.
Washington
D.C
would
do
this
Washington
D.C.
It
was
one
of
the
homes
to
the
largest
deaf
community
in
the
United
States,
and
you
would
think
that
they
would
be
the
leaders
in
this,
but
it's
been
done
in
Boston
first.
So
that's
just
some
information
that
I
wanted
to
share
and
what
I
see
happening
in
the
community
in
compliance
with
this.
C
G
This
is
Carl
based
on
the
success
of
the
Boston
captain
and
ornament.
I
have
been
meeting
with
a
number
of
legislators
at
the
State
House,
and
the
deadline
for
filing
bills
is
actually
this
Friday
and
two
legislators
will
be
filing
billed
I'm
trying
to
make
this
captioning
mandate.
Statewide
Senator
Michael
Barrett,
who
himself
has
a
a
child?
Who
is
a
part
of
the
with
either?
How
did
he
own
a
death
and
then
representative,
Denise
garlic?
Who
is
actually
the
chair
of
that
commission
that
you
just
mentioned
the
permanent?
G
H
Yeah,
just
a
piggyback
on
what
Carlson
and
and
to
ask
a
question
on
that:
how
can
we,
how
can
we
support
support
this,
for
this
Carl
is
the
best
advice
to
wait
until
there's
a
bill
filed
and
then
maybe
submit,
submit
a
letter
and
support
or
what?
What
are
your
thoughts
in
terms
of
how
how
we
can
we
can.
You
know,
help
push
this
forward.
B
K
K
If
people
have
questions
Although,
our
office
is
certainly
the
lead
department,
so
we
will
emphasize
that
and
then
we're
also
going
to
have
a
link
dedicated
to
a
closed
captions
information
web
page
that
will
be
linked
to
our
website.
We
have
the
draft
web
web
page
finished
and
as
soon
as
it's
live,
we
will
spread
the
information
widely.
So
we
hope
that
you
will
all
work
with
us
to
get
the
information
out.
K
Next
up
is
the
Boston
Public
Schools.
Many
of
you
may
know
that
mayor
Wu
is
working
on
What's
called
the
green
New
Deal
for
BPS,
and
this
is
looking
at
everything
from
the
building
environment,
to
sustainability,
for
the
the
planet
and
in
the
economy
and
being
financially
responsible.
So
it's
really
an
overhaul
of
the
whole
way
that
Boston
public
schools
are
built
and
arranged
and
will
be
working
moving
forward.
K
So
in
order
to
really
come
up
with
a
solid
plan
that
the
community
is
involved
in,
the
city
is
going
to
be
doing
nine
Community
listening
sessions,
seven
will
be
held
in
person.
Two
will
be
on
zoom
and
they're
all
open
to
the
public,
in
addition
to
the
General
Sessions
they're
also
going
to
hold
one
smaller
focus
group
just
for
people
in
the
disability
community,
and
this
is
going
to
be
By
Invitation
Only.
So
if
any
Advisory
board
members
would
like
to
attend,
please
let
us
know-
and
that's
going
to
be
more
of
a
discussion.
K
I
know
that
ASL
has
been
requested
and
it
should
be
available.
So
if
you
need
any
accommodations
or
want
to
talk
to
us
about
ASL,
please
send
us
an
email,
okay,
next
page
all
right,
so
we
were
just
doing
some
planning
in
a
meeting
today,
since
it's
January
we're
looking
at
the
whole
new
year
ahead
of
us,
and
we
outlined
some
dates
for
our
main
events.
K
Outreach
campaign,
that's
been
in
the
works
for
a
long
time,
we're
in
the
process
of
getting
our
final
materials
from
the
consultant.
We've
been
working
with
the
materials
will
include
videos,
photos,
animated
video
posters,
coasters
stickers
and
a
whole
lot
of
messaging
that
we'll
be
working
on,
so
we're
going
to
hold
a
public
kickoff,
probably
on
the
Plaza
sometime
in
April.
So
again
we'll
be
following
up
with
more
dates.
K
We
don't
have
many
dates
yet
we're
just
kind
of
mapping
out
the
year
in
May
we
do
an
annual
disability
Community
Forum
every
year,
where
we
invite
people
with
disabilities
of
people
who
are
just
interested
in
disability
issues
to
come
out
and
tell
us
what's
working.
What's
not
working,
we
like
to
listen
to
them
and
that
helps
us
set
our
agenda
for
the
year,
usually
we'll
bring
the
board
we'll
attend
so
that
they
people
can
meet
the
board.
K
Ask
you,
questions
directly,
get
to
know
who
you
are
and
what
you're
working
on
they
get
to
meet
the
staff
of
the
commission
and
very
often
we
have
City
officials
attend
as
well
mayor
Wu
came
last
year,
so
that
was
really
exciting.
She
may
not
make
it
this
year,
but
sometimes
like
the
public
health
commissioner
will
come
if
there's
a
lot
of
work
going
on
on
sidewalks
or
things
like
that.
K
So
as
the
date
gets
closer,
we'll
figure
out
who
is
going
to
be
attending
from
the
city
but
we'd
like
to
just
put
it
a
little
pin
in
it
for
you,
so
you
I
keep
in
mind
to
hopefully
attend
in
June.
For
the
last
few
years
we've
been
doing
a
transition
age,
special
special
education
students
Financial
Empowerment
day.
We
bring
a
couple
dozen
students
out
to
City
Hall
and
we
match
them
with
banks
and
investment
institutions.
K
So
they
can
learn
about
banking
tools
like
what's
a
saving
account,
what's
a
checking
account
they're
trained
on
predatory
lending
practices
and
we
were
able
to
give
them
all
seed
money
of
a
hundred
dollars
to
open
their
first
account.
So
it's
really
exciting
program.
It's
part
of
a
grant
program
that
we're
wrapping
up
this
year.
So
this
may
be
our
last
year
of
the
seed
money,
but
we
hope
to
be
able
to
pass
this
program
off
to
BPS
and
have
them
continue.
It
we've
had
a
lot
of
DPS
teachers
trained
in
the
curriculum.
K
The
curriculum
is
from
the
national
disability
Institute.
So
it's
a
really
great
program
and
the
students
have
really
loved
it
and
we
also
have
a
nice
parents,
so
they
can
learn
about
it
and
there's
a
lot
of
really
great
tools
that
you
know.
Parents
and
students
may
not
know
about
things
like
ways.
You
can't
save
money,
even
if
you
get
benefits
so
that
you
won't
risk
losing
benefits.
K
Since
you
know,
there's
certain
ways
you
can
do
that
so
yeah
very
exciting
program,
and
we
usually
do
that
in
June
in
July
we
will
be
celebrating
our
13th
annual
Ada
day.
This
is
our
big
event
on
the
plaza
where
we
pick
someone
who's
done,
a
really
a
lot
of
really
great
work
over
the
last
year
to
honor
and
celebrate,
and
we
do
resource
tables
from
disability
organizations.
K
We
have
our
famous
t-shirts,
we
have
our
famous
hot
dogs
and
it's
just
a
really
fun
day
with
music
and
a
tent
and
open
to
the
whole
community.
Every
September
we
do
a
disability
Civic
engagement
day,
where
we
bring
people
to
the
fifth
floor
in
City
Hall.
They
get
to
tour.
The
city
council
chamber,
learn
about
testifying
and
hearing.
They
can
register
to
vote
and
demo
a
voting
booth
in
the
auto
market
machine
that
helps
them
vote
accessibly.
They
can
meet
their
neighborhood
Liaisons.
They
can
meet
the
city
councilors.
K
So
it's
a
great
way
to
get
people
with
disabilities
into
City
Hall
to
encourage
them
to
really
be
involved
in
local
government
and
then
October
is
National
disability,
employment
awareness
month.
That's
a
national
initiative
that
was
started
many
years
ago
in
Washington
DC.
So
we
participate
in
that
every
year
and
we
usually
do
disability
mentoring
day,
which
is
a
big
event
at
City
Hall.
K
K
A
nutshell:
our
big
events
in
a
nutshell,
stay
tuned
for
specific
dates
coming
soon,
and
then
this
slide
is
also
it's
repeated
from
last
month,
but
I
just
wanted
to
re-emphasize
that
the
office
of
the
Inspector
General
has
training
that
you
can
attend.
This
is
a
small
fee,
but
you
can
be
reimbursed.
I
know
a
few
of
you
have
taken
us
up
on
that.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
then
just
making
sure
everybody
has
the
2023
board
meeting
schedule
again.
K
K
And
then
just
to
go
over
some
Advisory
Board
information.
I
know
a
lot
of
members
right
now
are
on
holdover
terms,
so
we've
been
working
with
the
mayor's
Administration
to
get
more
information
about
reappointments
and
swearing
in.
So
we
know
that
that
information
will
be
coming
soon.
So,
as
Paulette
mentioned,
she
hasn't
been
sworn
in
yet,
but
once
you
get
a
reappointment
letter,
you'll
be
able
to
come
into
City
Hall.
K
You
have
to
come
in
person
and
get
sworn
in
and
sign
the
book,
and
then
you
will
officially
be
reappointed
for
a
term
the
way
it's
going
to
work,
though,
is
not.
Everybody
won't
be
the
terms
of
three
years
long,
but
everyone,
everybody
won't
have
three
years
from
the
day
of
their
swearing
in.
It
will
be
three
years
from
the
day
that
their
original
term
expired.
So
if
you've
been
hold
over
for
a
year
once
you
get
someone
in
you'll
be
sworn
in
for
a
period
of
two
years,
but
we
can
go
over
that
individually.
K
If
people
have
questions
and
we'll
have
more
information,
definitely
in
next
week
or
two
and
then
I
know,
there's
been
some
discussion
about
enabling
legislation
and
bylaws
so
just
want
to
tell
everyone
know
that
we're
working
with
the
mass
office
on
disability
and
the
City
of
Boston
Law
Department
to
clarify
some
questions
that
have
come
up
and
we
will
get
back
to
you
with
more
information
on
that.
But
one
thing
that
I
did
want
to
just
go
over
really
briefly,
just
to
emphasize
that
the
focus
of
this
board
really
is
I.
K
Don't
want
to
get
bogged
down
in
like
semantics,
but
really
to
look
at
what
the
responsibilities
of
the
board
are
so
board.
Members
are
here
to
advise
and
assist
Municipal
officials
in
ensuring
compliance
with
federal
and
state
laws,
review
policies
and
activities
of
Municipal
Municipal
departments,
as
they
affect
people
with
disabilities
and
on
that
bullet.
I
really
want
to
emphasize
that.
That's
the
reason
why
we
do
presentations
every
month
like
when
someone
from
Public
Works
comes
in
and
talks
about
a
new
street
they're
designing.
K
We
do
these
presentations,
not
just
for
your
information,
but
so
you
can
weigh
in
on
them
and
we
try
to
find
you
know
relevant
ones
where
we
think.
Oh
people
with
disabilities
really
need
a
seat
at
the
table
for
this
project,
whether
it's
like
redoing,
the
library
in
Copley
or
something
like
a
policy
like
the
elections.
Commission
is
redistricting,
so
that
second
bullet
I
really
want
to
emphasize
is
one
of
the
main
reasons
that
we
do
have
presentations
at
the
meetings.
K
That
is
the
time
when
you
can
actually
give
direct
input
to
Municipal
departments,
so
they
understand
the
needs
of
the
disability
community
and
then
just
the
the
other
ones
are
the
information,
referral,
advocacy
and
technical
assistance
and
then
coordinating
activities
of
other
local
groups
and
I
think
that
came
up
tonight.
It's
a
really
great
example
of
how
you
can
coordinate
with
bcil,
to
say:
oh
hey,
we
we've
read
this
report
about
discrimination
of
people
with
disabilities
in
the
medical
community.
How
can
we
work
together?
K
K
So
those
are
the
board
member
responsibilities
in
a
nutshell
and
then
also
our
bylaws
call
for
annual
elections
of
the
executive
committee.
So
there
are
four
positions:
they're,
a
chair,
Vice,
chair
secretary
and
Treasurer.
All
members
are
eligible
to
serve
on
a
committee
on
the
committee
in
any
role.
So
if
anyone's
ready
to
nominate
anyone
tonight
we
can
do
that
or
we
can
do
it
after
tonight's
meeting.
But
we
will
schedule
the
vote
for
February.
K
K
K
So
we
joined
the
equity
inclusion
cabinet.
We
move
from
Human
Services
into
Equity
inclusion,
and
we're
really
excited
about
that
because
we
get
to
work
with
all
these
other
offices
that
really
work
on
systemic
access,
which
means
we
don't
provide
services.
We
work
to
make
sure
everything
that
the
city
does
has
an
accessibility
lens
in
it,
and
then
we
received
an
extension
of
an
ADA
Municipal
grant
for
new
members.
K
You
may
not
know
about
we
applied
for
and
received
a
250
000
Grant
from
the
mass
office
on
disability
to
replace
the
incline,
lift
on
the
third
floor
mezzanine
with
the
vertical
lift.
So
we
only
had
a
year
to
spend
the
money,
but
we
were
able
to
get
an
extension
and
that
will
be
installed
before
June
30th
and
then
we
held
our
first
in-person
disability,
Community
Forum.
K
K
We
insured
access
during
the
MBTA
Orange
Line
shutdown.
We
worked
really
hard
to
coordinate
with
the
T
and
with
Public
Works
to
make
sure
that
sidewalks,
where
new
bus
stops
were
located
were
accessible
and
we
created
an
accessibility
guide.
We
had
a
web
a
web
page
with
information.
I
have
to
give
credit
to
my
staff.
They
did
a
ton
of
work
on
this
project
and
for
the
most
part
it
was
successful.
It
wasn't
easy,
but
for
the
most
part
it
was,
we
did
maintain
accessibility.
K
K
K
K
C
F
A
This
is
Andrea
I
believe
there
will
be
a
signed
seat,
so
I
can
check
on
that.
If
you,
when
you
registered,
if
you
noted
that
your
affiliation
was
being
with
the
disability,
Advisory
Board
then
likely
they
will
seat
you
together
if
they're
assigning
seats.
But
let
me
confirm
that
and
I'll
get
back
to
you.
F
H
Yes,
I
make
comment
was
in
regards
to
the
the
state
of
the
city
event
coming
up
too
I
took
Andrea's
suggestion
because
I
emailed
very
excitedly,
as
soon
as
I
got
the
invitation
saying
that
that
I,
you
know,
wanted
to
try
to
attend,
and
she
suggested
that
I
that
I
email
that
email
that
that
was
in
your
report
earlier,
commissioner,
stating
that
I
needed.
You
know
wheelchair
seating
I
just
wanted
to.
H
Let
you
know
that,
will
you
and
Andrea
know
in
your
step
that
I
haven't
received
anything
back
yet
and
so
I?
You
know
I
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
you
know
those
of
us.
You
know
wheelchair
users
who
are
invited
and
planning
to
to
attend
can
can.
Can
you
know
find
our
you
know
the
wheelchair
accessible
locations
pretty
easily,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
can
check
with
with
the
mayor's
staff
or
the
staff
of
the
event
and
and
confirm.
A
We
did
disclose
your
disability
to
the
extent
that
you
all
disclose
it
here
at
this
public
forum,
so
they
should
know
which
those
of
you
who
have
you
know
publicly
noted
that
you're
wheelchair
users
they
should
have
that
noted,
but
they
should
still
respond
to
you.
So
let
me
see
what
what's
going
on
there
so
that
I
can
make
sure
we
get
that
confirmed.
K
H
That's
what
Andrea
that's
what
Andrea
said
when
I
emailed
I
think
you
were
out,
commissioner,
but
she
did
say
that
you
had
attended
an
event
I
assumed
it
was
our
shot
which
I'm
very
jealous
about,
but
but
you
know,
I
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
it's
accessible
again.
I
just
want
to
be
make
sure
that
that
those
of
us
who
need
the
wheelchair
accessible
spots
can
find
her.
You
can
one,
you
know,
find
our
locations
easily
and
then
sit
as
comfortably
as
as
as
possible.
H
H
You
said
in
your
report
that
you
may
not
be
able
to
attend
the
the
the
Community
day
in
May,
I
I,
hope,
that's
I,
hope
that's
not
set
in
stone,
because
I
think
it
was
great
to
have
her
there
and
it
will
be
great
to
have
her
at
at
as
many
events
as
possible.
So
I
hope
that
she's
still
able
to
attend
as
many
of
our
events
as
possible.
Yeah.
K
O
Charlie
hi
I
have
a
question,
commissioner,
for
on
the
slide,
where
you
had
some
of
the
roles
for
The,
Advisory,
Board
and
then
kind
of
crossing
over
into
the
work
and
the
collaboration
that
you're
doing
with
with
Boston
public
schools
for
the
green
New
Deal
is
our
advisory
like
because
I
know
that
we
had
talked
about
the
Quasi
entity.
That
BPS
basically
is
is
our
advisory,
mainly
on
the
like
the
architectural
or.
O
What
is
that
that
role
that
we're
really
pushing,
because
it's
kind
of
dovetailing
into
the
question
I
know
that
the
hot
button
question
of
Transportation?
But
it's
more
of
the
the
when
in
transportation
I
know
the
city
owns
the
buses.
So
there's
that
the
issue
of
mechanical
issues
for
some
of
the
wheel,
for
you
know,
maintenance
on
wheelchair
lifts
on
rails,
and
all
of
that
I
was
just
wondering.
What
is
the
advisory
board's
ability
when
you
do
talk
about
a
violation
of
certain
laws
and
and
compliance
where?
Where
do
we
have?
O
K
And
I
don't
think
it's
a
you
know
a
black
and
white
line
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
gray
area,
a
few
things
that
we've
noted
I
know
when
we
had
a
conversation
offline
about
this,
that
you
know
the
disability
commission.
One
of
the
things
that's
tasked
with
is
really
looking
at
compliance
with
laws,
and
we,
when
we
think
disability
law
we
usually
think
Ada
and
because
I'm
the
Ada
Title
II
coordinator
for
the
city.
K
K
K
Like
I
said
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
Nuance
I'd
suggest
going
back
reading
the
responsibilities
we
could
think
it
through
before
we
haven't
really
had
board
members
who
have
been
like
specifically
interested
in
BPS
as
much
as
you
know,
you
seem
to
be
now
so
I
think
we're
still
kind
of
figuring
out
as
we
go.
That
being
said,
we
are
much
smaller
and
less
less
able.
We
have
less
capacity
to
do.
A
Yeah
I
would
just
say
that
our
because
we
have
three
well
two
architects
and
one
engineer
on
staff.
Our
department
has
focused
a
lot
on
the
buildings
and
so
to
the
point
of
the
slideshow
that
our
department
has
been
doing
a
lot
of
architectural
access
review
and
that's
why
we
highlighted
that
in
the
in
the
spreadsheet
or
in
them
slideshow.
C
P
P
P
They
working
really
hard
on
the
South
Boston
Transportation
action
plan,
and
they
have
asked
us
to
distribute
their
studies
and
ask
us
to
provide
comment
to
them
after
the
meeting
we're
gonna
share
the
links
to
these
three
things.
One
is
the
recording
for
the
public
meetings
that
happen
on
November
14th.
So
that's
one.
One
thing
is
the
video.
The
second
thing
is
this
live
presentation
that
relates
to
that
video
and
the
third
one
is
a
whole
report
on
the
analysis
done
by
their
consultant.
P
P
That
has
been
rescheduled
for
April,
12th
and
just
to
recap.
That
is
a
free
training
for
this
commission
and
it
is
half
a
day
and
it's
it's
free,
and
it
includes
great
information
on
the
accessibility
code
and
some
Ada
information
too,
and
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
with
more
information
on
the
actual
training
and
how
to
sign
up,
which
is
you
know
through
me,
and
through
mrd
Massachusetts,
on
the
civility
Commission
on
disability
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
for
this.
B
F
You
were
thanks,
Wes
and
and,
as
you
know,
I
had
something
to
do
with
revising
the
letter,
but
I
I
cannot
vote
for
the
letter.
The
way
it's
written
without
changing
Advisory,
Board
to
Commission
and
and
and
because
I
think
that's
who
we
are
and
it's
as
there's
a
lot
to
be
said
about
that.
I
received
some
emails
just
a
few
minutes
ago.
Saying
we're
going
to
talk
about
this
next
month
and
it
wasn't.
F
We
weren't
going
to
talk
about
it
tonight,
I'd
very
much
like
to
explain
it
all
to
everybody
tonight,
because
I
think
it's
significant.
But
if
we're
not
going
to
talk
about
it
tonight,
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
cannot
support
the
letter
as
it's
written
with
that
discrepancy,
because
I
think
it's
violative
of
the
statute
that
we
exist
under
and
which
requires
I
think
a
much
longer.
Discussion
and
I
need
to
be
able
to
show
people
what
I.
K
K
B
F
It
uses
the
word
commission
nine
times,
other
materials,
the
Massachusetts
office
of
disability,
if
you
look
at
their
materials
and
I
could
just
display
them.
If
we
had
more
time
instructs
on
what
we
are
to
do
and
who
we
are
their
materials,
make
it
very
clear
that
we
are
a
commission
I
think
there
are
something
like
14
or
15
references
in
it
that
make
it
very
clear.
We
are
a
commission,
we
are
not
a
board
and
we
are
not
advisory.
We
have
certain
responsibilities
that
are
set
forth
in
the
statute.
F
That's
what
we
are
here
to
do.
We
are
like
we're
like
the
Federal
Trade,
commissioner,
the
federal
Community
we're
like
any
other
commission.
We
have
responsibilities.
That's
not
to
say
that
we
don't
interact
with
the
commissioner
effect,
but
if
you
look
at
Massachusetts
the
state,
the
city's
ordinance
on
this
issue,
it
lays
it
all
out
it
talks
about
the
commissioner
being
paid.
It's
commissioner,
McCosh
and
the
rest
of
us
are
associate
Commissioners
it's
right
in
the
city
laws,
and
so
you
know
I
I,
just
think
our
mission,
I
I,
don't
know
that.
F
There's
a
more
important
mission
that
anyone
is
trying
to
fulfill
in
this
city
and
what
this
commission
is
trying
to
is
is
designed
to
do.
This
is
a
solemn
responsibility.
We
have
in
I
believe
I
I,
don't
know
if
the
rest
of
you
may
or
may
not
agree
with
me
that
it's
imperative
on
us,
especially
because
of
our
mission,
to
do
things
right
so
Richard
I'm,
just
gonna,
please
let
me
finish
and
do
things
as
the
law
states
and
the
law
is
very
clear.
F
Now
the
fact
that
someone,
you
know
who
I
love
the
new
well
didn't
want
supervision
over
the
commissioner.
Our
job
isn't
to
supervised
commission
precautionary
staff,
they
have
their
responsibilities,
but
we
have
ours,
but
I.
Think
I
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
to
do
things
in
accordance
with
the
statute,
in
accordance
with
the
instructions
from
the
State
and
in
accordance
with
our
own
City
bylaws.
K
F
K
F
K
A
N
H
H
B
H
H
H
B
F
F
I
O
H
A
This
is
Andrea
just
as
a
point
of
order
when
we
voted
to
write
a
letter
to
a
governor
of
then
governor
elect
Healy.
We
also
voted
to
write
a
letter
to
attorney
general
Campbell.
We
only
had
a
draft
letter
for
governor-elect
Healy
in
December,
but
we
now
have
a
draft
for
both
which
were
distributed
last
week.
They
are
in
very
nearly
word
for
word.
O
H
Yeah
Wes,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate.
You
know
that
that
this
discussion
has
been
Lively
and
kind
of
unruly
at
times
you
know,
but
that's
another
reason
we're
here
right
to
discuss
things,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
Did
we
vote?
Did
the
emotions
to
approve
the
letters?
Did
those
pass
we'll?
Will
the
letters
be
going
out.
H
H
You
know
let
the
record
show,
though,
that
that,
as
long
as
I've
been
on
the
commission-
and
this
is
my
second
term
and
I
I-
believe
you
know
I-
believe
there
are
others
that
have
been
on
longer
in
including
Carl
that
we've
always
considered
ourselves.
Advisory,
Board,
Advisory,
board
members
and
I
I.
Don't
believe
that
that's
impacted
our
our
roles
or
our
ability
to
to
do
good
work.
You
know,
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
behalf
of
people
with
disabilities
and
in
the
city,
so.
I
I
You
know
if,
if
there
are,
if
there
are
any
that,
certainly
it
in
in
reality
and
function,
it
seems
like
it
has
functioned
as
an
Advisory,
Board
I
I
do
think
those
were
valid
issues
that
Richard
raised,
but
I
thought
I
think
in
the
interest
that
well
we're
figuring
out
some
of
the
those
those
specifics
and
particularly
for
those
who
of
us
who
don't
have
a
legal
background.
But
realize
it's
not
only
semantic
in
in,
but
that
we've
also
been
criticized
if
they're
or
delays
I
think.
I
As
far
as
the
importance
of
welcoming
the
governor
and
the
Attorney
General,
and
what
are
we
also
going
to
do
on
the
lieutenant
governor?
Did
we
previously
agree
on
that
as
well?
No,
not
Bill
Clinton,
okay,
but
in
any
case
I
had
I
think
the
timeliness
of
having
our
presence,
you
know
well
I
work.
Our
interest
was
was
was
a
higher
level
importance
for
this
particular
time-centered,
but
I
and
I
would
not
characterize
the
discussion
as
I'm.
I
Only
from
my
point
of
view,
I
think
that
those
are
valid
points
and
then
also
other
than
the
Roberts
Rule
of
Order
of
just
I'm.
Getting
that's
straightened
out.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
bring
it
up
again,
but
I
I
I
felt
it
was
important
also
to
proceed
in
in
moving
forward
on
these
two
particular
runners.
C
For
this
discussion
on
bylaws,
because
it
is
a
big
deal
and
I
would
ask
Andrea
if
she
could
set
a
special
date
for
us,
we
have
48
hours
to
notify
the
public
of
any
special
meetings
that
we
can
that
we
plan
to
hold,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
is
not
a
concern
to
the
general
community
and
also
if
they
have
questions
about
the
special
meeting.
They
can
ask
us
I'm,
hoping
that
everyone
will
agree
with
this.
Thank
you.
C
K
I
don't
know
if
anybody
gave
any
thought
to
nominating
themselves
or
somewhere
someone
else,
but
I
was
going
to
nominate
the
executive
committee
for
the
same
rules
again
this
year,
because
I
think
they
did
a
great
job.
So
that's
my
nomination
and
if
anyone
else
has
nominations,
feel
free
to
speak
up.
J
J
G
H
A
B
B
J
C
D
N
N
D
C
H
I
was
very
confused
by
the
way
you
worded
that
last.
The
last
section
of
the
meeting
was
you
know,
but
I
do
appreciate.
I
do
appreciate.
You
know
the
Lively
discussion.
We've
had
and
and
appreciate
your
role
as
chair
trying
to
navigate
all
of
that,
so
so
I'm
fine
with
tabling
new
business
and
anything
that
I
have
that
that
can't
wait.
I'll
I'll,
I'll,
I'll
email,
the
the
commissioner
and
staff
so.