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From YouTube: Disability Commission Advisory Board Meeting 5-20-2020
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Disability Commission Advisory Board Meeting 5-20-2020
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Great
good
evening,
everyone,
the
open
meeting
law,
requires
that
I
notify
the
public
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded.
Therefore,
please
be
aware
that
an
audio
and
visual
recording
of
this
meeting
is
being
made
and
broadcast
by
Boston
City
TV,
which
is
a
part
of
the
city
of
Boston
office
of
cable
communications
and
now
I
hand
it
over
to
Jerry.
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Jerry
yeah
I
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
that
may
is
National
Mental,
Health,
Awareness,
Month
and
I.
Think
in
the
times
we're
going
through
it's
more
important
than
ever
that
people
pay
attention
to
their
mental
health
and
their
overall
wellness,
because
we
know
isolation
and
fear
and
anxiety
can
lead
to
depression,
and
you
know
just
really
tough
times
can
get
you
down.
It
can
happen
to
anybody,
and
we
also
know
that
mental
health
issues
are
a
big
part
of
the
disability.
Community.
J
People
with
mental
illness
are
covered
under
the
a
DA
and
it's
a
big
sector
of
the
disability
community,
and
we
want
to
offer
them
our
support
and
just
offer
good
local
resource.
If
you
are
interested
in
more
information,
a
great
local
resource
is
called
Nami.
It's
the
National
Alliance
for
mental
illness
Nami,
and
we
have
a
local
chapter.
We've
worked
with
in
the
past,
and
their
website
is
Nami.
Mass
org,
Nami,
mas
s,
org,
and
you
can
log
in
to
check
out
what
their
resources
are.
J
Or
you
know,
if
you
have
a
friend
who's
struggling,
it's
a
great
place
to
refer
people
and
then,
even
if
you
just
look
online,
there
are
tons
of
resources
out
there,
and
we
know
that
this
meeting,
like
meetings
like
these,
are
not
the
same
as
meeting
in
person,
but
at
least
we
have
technology.
Today
we
can
see
each
other
talk
to
each
other
and
at
least
meet
together
in
some
ways,
so
that
helps
a
little
bit,
but
just
want
to
put
it
on
the
radar
for
everybody.
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You
can
we
try
it.
That
is
a
very,
very,
very
important
we
all
have
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
try
to
take
care
of
ourselves
and
our
mental
health.
You
know
during
this
time
and
I
know
it's
extremely
difficult,
so
please
avail
yourself
of
Nami's
resources
or
reach
out
to
the
Commissioner
end
and
staff,
and
they
might
be
able
to
hook
you
up
with
some
additional
resources
as
well
and
next
on
the
agenda.
Without
further
ado,
we
have
the
City
Hall.
K
Thanks
Jerry,
this
is
Kate
grandma,
Landscape,
Architect
and
principle
with
Sasaki
and
I
think
there
are
several
members
of
the
public
facilities
Department
on
the
line
as
well:
Nene
Anderson
and
Brian
Melia
from
the
public
facilities
department,
as
well
as
several
other
members
from
the
design
team
from
Sasaki.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
share
a
screen
and
a
brief
presentation
with
you
all.
K
There
will
be
a
couple
of
different
speakers
as
part
of
that
so
I'll
be
joined
by
some
of
my
architecture,
colleagues,
to
talk
about
some
of
the
improvements
to
the
building
and
will
carry
you
through
all
of
the
information
that
you
need
to
know
about
the
renovation
and
then
have
plenty
of
time
for
questions
afterwards.
Great.
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Kate
so
sorry
to
interrupt
just
one
quick
note:
if
everybody
could
please
mute
their
cameras
or
mute
their
audio,
that
would
be
great
if
you're
unable
to
do
that.
Then
I
have
the
power
to
mute.
You
the
trouble
with
that
being
that,
if
you
are
muted
by
me,
I
am
unable
to
unmute
you,
so
you
will
have
to
unmute
yourself.
K
Yes,
okay,
good,
so
hopefully
you
can
all
see
the
screen
Jessica.
Can
you
just
confirm
for
me
that
everyone
can
see
the
screen?
Yes,
okay?
Okay,
so
we
have
a
brief
agenda
for
you
all.
It's
not
an
Singh!
There
we
go.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
share
with
you
all
a
design
overview,
the
big
picture
of
what's
happening
with
Boston
City,
Hall,
plaza
and
building
renovations,
and
then
we'll
take
a
deeper
dive
into
the
specific
opportunities
and
challenges
around
accessibility
for
both
the
plaza
and
the
city
hall
renovations.
K
So
I
think
you
all
are
quite
familiar
with
City,
Hall
and
city
hall
plaza.
You
know
that
it's
eight
acres
of
brick
as
it
stands
today
and
this
process
was
really
started
in
2015
by
the
mayor
mayor
Walsh,
who
stated
a
vision
that
the
plaza
really
should
be
reimagined
as
thriving
and
healthy
and
innovative
space
that
made
Bostonians
proud.
So
that
really
launched
a
process
which
has
been
several
years
in
the
making,
starting
with
a
master
plan
of
both
the
building
and
the
plaza
led
by
Reid,
Hildebrandt
and
util
to
local
design
firms.
K
We
were
brought
on,
Sasaki
was
brought
on
to
lead
a
concept
and
design
process
for
the
first
phase
of
renovations.
There
have
been
a
number
of
different
opportunities
for
stakeholders,
as
well
as
the
public
to
interface
with
the
design.
Throughout
the
process,
we
went
through
a
concept
refinement
process
where
we
looked
at
many
different
options,
revised
those
and
refined
those
into
phase
one
and
are
now
at
the
very
end
of
a
construction
document
process
and
ready
to
break
ground
this
spring
again,
we've
spoken
to
a
number
of
different
stakeholders
throughout
the
process.
K
These
are
people
constituents
from
all
over
Boston
young
old,
many
different
interest
groups,
including
many
times
meeting
with
the
disability,
commissioners
and
staff
members.
We
heard
a
lot
of
different
things
about
the
plaza
everything
from
universal
access
being
really
important
to
shade
and
comfortable
seating.
What
we
did
as
a
design
team
is,
we
took
all
of
that
great
feedback
and
we
summarized
that
into
four
guiding
principles
for
the
plaza.
K
So
a
welcoming
in
civic
front
yard
is
really
about
daily
use,
ensuring
that
the
plaza
can
welcome
all
Bostonians,
no
matter
how
they
arrived
at
the
plaza
and
and
help
them
be
comfortable
for
daily
use.
A
flexible
and
accommodating
event.
Venue
is
about
ensuring
that
the
plaza
can
host
a
diversity
of
different
kinds
of
events,
year-round
24/7
and
really
make
those
events
comfortable
and
welcoming
to
all
Bostonians
a
model
for
sustainability
and
resilience
is
captures
all
the
feedback.
K
We
heard
about
ensuring
that
this
renovation
really
model
the
best
thinking
about
21st
century
practices
in
sustainability
and
resilience.
And
finally,
a
renewed
cultural
and
architectural
legacy
captures
all
of
the
great
feedback
of
thinking
we
heard
from
the
preservation
community
about
how
important
Government
Center
is
in
the
history
of
Boston
and
what
it
means
as
a
brutalist
building
and
to
reinterpret
that
Civic
legacy.
So
overlaid
on
top
of
those
guiding
principles
are
a
number
of
really
specific
elements
and
principles
of
program
that
are
required
to
be
accommodated
on
the
plaza.
K
You
all
know
that
there's
a
really
large
elevation
change
across
the
plaza,
and
that
is
accommodated
with
the
number
of
granite
steps
currently
and
the
idea
in
renovating
this
project
that
this
plaza
is
really
to
ensure
that
there
is
universal
access
to
all
parts
of
the
plaza
and
into
all
main
entrances
of
the
building.
That's
a
main
driver
and
priority
of
the
mayor's
office.
So
this
here
is
the
full
concept
plan
and
I'll
just
walk
you
through
it
carefully.
K
Cambridge
Street
is
high
up
where
the
MBTA
head
houses,
Congress
Street,
is
low
down
about
25
feet
in
grade
difference
between
those
two
things:
big
picture.
What
the
design
is
doing
is
carving
an
accessible
route,
a
less
than
five
percent
sloped
walkway,
which
comes
from
low
down
Congress
Street
up
into
a
right
size,
smaller
main
plaza,
there's
an
upper
plaza,
which
again
is
a
small
gathering
place
but
doubles
as
a
stage
and
raised
stage
area
for
a
large
event
on
the
plaza
along
the
way.
K
There's
a
revised
and
a
renewed
North
entry
courtyard,
because
the
north
entry,
which
has
been
closed
since
9/11,
will
re
open
to
the
public
with
new
security
infrastructure,
allowing
people
to
access
that
lower
second
floor
transaction
area
of
the
City
Hall
more
easily
from
Congress
Street
and
then
coming
around
to
the
main
entry.
There's
a
some
revisions
to
the
main
entry
to
ensure
that
there's
a
great
speakers
corner
at
the
front.
K
This
is
the
view
of
the
plaza
today
from
from
across
the
street,
and
you
can
see
that
8
acres
of
brick,
along
with
all
of
those
granite,
stair
treads,
which
really
make
it
a
not
very
accessible
and
welcoming
place.
Currently,
the
future
vision
here
you
can
see
is
a
much
greener
vision.
A
lot
more
shady
places
to
sit
and
be
on
a
daily
basis,
many
places
to
capture
stormwater
and
let
that
infiltrate
into
the
soil.
K
You
can
see
that
main
accessible
route
carved
up
from
Congress
Street
right
up
into
a
right,
sized
main
plaza,
which
still
hosts
the
kind
of
events
that
Bostonians
have
come
to
know
and
love
in
the
past
several
years,
and
then
that
newly
accessible
entry,
universally
accessible
entry
to
the
main
parts
of
City,
Hall
I
think
I've
mentioned
universal
accessibility.
Many
many
times
already
and
I.
K
So
we're
going
to
walk
through
the
renovations,
through
the
plaza,
with
a
lens
on
accessibility.
We'll
talk,
first
about
how
you
go
through
the
plaza.
What
this
eating
options
are
we'll
talk
specifically
about
paving
and
then
wayfinding,
so
this
map
of
the
plaza
in
the
dark
and
the
blue
lines,
the
solid
blue
lines,
those
show
accessible
routes
through
the
plaza
and
again
I.
K
Think
it's
just
important
to
realize
that
the
goal
here
is
that
the
intuitive
and
quickest
routes
are
always
the
universally
accessible
ones
so
where
there
are
now
stairs
blocking
your
access
into
the
plaza
from
many
parts
of
Cambridge
Street.
There's
now
a
welcoming
access
point
from
Congress
Street,
the
same
thing,
a
really
welcoming
access
point.
K
There
are
main
routes
to
all
parts
of
the
plaza
that
are
intuitive
and
welcoming
and
universally
accessible,
the
majority
of
which
are
less
than
five
percent
sloped
walkways
we're
gonna
walk
through
a
couple
of
what
those
experiences
look
like
so
again
we're
going
to
contrast
for
you
what
exists
today
and
what
the
future
is
going
to
look
like
here
from
Congress
Street.
You
can
see
that
your
current
view,
you're
you're,
greeted
by
a
wall
of
inaccessible,
granite
steps.
It's
nearly
15
feet
high.
K
The
future
view
is
a
much
more
welcoming
gateway
where
you
can
see
that
less
than
five
percent
sloped
walkway,
that
we
call
the
Hanover
promenade,
because
it
aligns
with
the
old
Hanover
Street
coming
right
up
and
leading
you
into
the
main
part
of
the
plaza
past.
The
newly
opened
North
entry,
which
is
marked
by
a
piece
of
public
art,
there's
signage,
which
really
announces
your
welcome
to
City
Hall,
and
you
have
this
stately
Civic
entrance
set
off
with
some
planting
from
a
really
exciting
adventure
play
scape
for
children
and
families.
K
So
you'd
see
and
hear
that
excitement
as
you
as
you
came
into
the
plaza
at
the
second
gateway
to
the
plaza.
This
is
up
on
Cambridge,
Street
and
right
now,
you're
separated
from
the
plaza
by
about
four
feet
of
granite
stair
treads.
It's
really
a
difficult
place
to
enter
the
plaza
on
wheels.
The
future
is
a
universally
accessible
access
point.
You
can
see
that
that
is
a
five
percent
sloped
walkway,
which
really
brings
you
down
into
the
heart
of
the
plaza
and
plantings
frame.
K
The
view
of
that
really
important
West
facade
of
the
building
and
the
main
entry
point.
You
in
that
right
direction,
I
think
for
us,
it's
also
been
really
important
to,
but
the
plaza
is
and
should
be
activated
year-round
24
hours,
you
know
24
hours
a
day,
year-round
in
all
seasons,
and
so
the
renovation
built
in
a
number
of
infrastructure
improvements
to
allow
Boston
to
host
the
kinds
of
events
that
Bostonians
love
in
a
much
more
easy
and
intuitive
and
inexpensive
way.
K
Moving
into
the
plaza.
This
is
looking
down
the
series
of
brick
terraces
separated
by
granite
stair
treads
that
exist
along
the
north
side
of
the
building
today.
So
right
now,
this
is
again
an
inaccessible
route
to
those
using
wheels
or
pushing
strollers,
and
the
future
is
that
five
less
than
five
percent
sloped
walkway,
that
we
call
the
Hanover
promenade.
K
It
incorporates
some
of
the
same
original
historic
structures
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
moment,
but
also
has
plant
in
planting
slopes
on
both
sides
and
lots
of
places
that
are
active
and
great
to
be
in
on
a
daily
basis,
activated
with
public
art
coming
down
a
little
further
into
the
plaza.
This
is
of
you
looking
up
towards
the
government,
Services
Administration
Building
Terrace.
Again,
you
can
see
a
large
grade
difference.
There
builds
into
that
great
difference
in
the
future
will
be
a
really
exciting
adventure
play
scape
for
all
ages
and
abilities.
K
K
This
this
playground
has
been
designed
to
be
inclusive,
so
it
provides
a
number
of
different
opportunities
and
challenges
at
different
levels
to
ensure
that
no
matter
your
age
and
ability,
you
have
a
way
to
play
and
a
way
to
engage
on
the
plaza
I'm
coming
down
just
back
to
the
to
the
Congress
Street.
Turning
a
little
bit
from
the
view
before
this
is
a
MBTA
head,
vent
structure
that
needs
to
remain
the
vision
is
to
tuck
a
really
exciting
new
piece
of
program
called
the
Civic
Pavilion
into
that
grade.
K
Change
so
just
off
to
the
left
off
the
image
is
the
play
scape.
That
I
showed
you
before,
and
here
is
the
Civic
billion.
Where
meetings
like
this
in
an
era
of
past
Kovan
might
be
able
to
take
place
in
the
future,
it's
a
boardroom
as
well
as
the
building
that
has
critical
infrastructure
for
the
plaza
restrooms,
as
well
as
mechanical
infrastructure
that
supports
the
operation
of
the
plaza
so
really
fun
and
exciting
place
an
outpost
of
civic
activity.
On
the
plaza.
K
Seating
is
integrated
throughout
the
plaza
I
think.
As
a
design
team,
we've
considered
many
many
different
ways
of
providing
seating
that
is
flexible
for
people
of
different
ages
and
abilities.
So
there
are
areas
of
seating
that
are
backless
and
armless,
and
there
are
areas
of
seating
that
have
arms
for
folks,
with
limited
mobility
to
be
able
to
push
up
more
easily,
and
there
are
numerous
opportunities
for
companion
seating
throughout
the
plaza,
not
the
edges
and
integrated
without
it,
throughout
seat
walls
and
ceiling
opportunities.
K
So
a
real
diversity
of
seating
that
is
inclusive
and
welcoming
to
people
of
all
abilities.
We
wanted
to
pause
a
little
bit
and
talk
specifically
about
pavement
materials
and
surfacing.
We
have
heard
throughout
the
process
that
there
is
significant
concern
among
the
disability
community
about
the
material
of
brick
as
a
pavement
material
in
Boston,
and
so
we
wanted
to
tell
you
the
story
of
brick
on
the
original
plaza
and
why
that
the
city
is
electing
to
continue
that
legacy.
K
So
this
is
a
sketch
from
the
original
architects
and
I
think
they
had
this
really
poetic
idea
and
poetic
nothin
about
the
use
of
brick
that
brick
connected
the
city
sidewalks
the
city's
historic
brick
sidewalks
through
the
plaza.
It
was
a
carpet
of
brick
to
connect
those
city
sidewalks
with
the
lower
public
elements
of
the
building.
K
So
there
was
this
interesting
idea
about
brick,
symbolizing
public
access
to
city
governments
and,
throughout
the
course
of
the
design
process,
it's
become
clear
from
the
preservation
community,
as
well
as
others
in
Boston
that
preserving
that
legacy
of
brick
and
connecting
the
city
sidewalks
to
the
lower
parts
of
the
building
is
something
that
really
should
be
preserved.
So
the
question
was
really:
how
do
we
do
that
in
a
way
that's
accessible?
K
This
diagram
just
shows
what
that
original
plaza
structure
looked
like.
You
can
see
that
you
know
the
original
structure
was
the
series
of
brick
terraces
separated
by
granite
stair
treads.
Those
are
shown
in
the
darker
blue
bands,
and
then
you
can
see
the
jointing
down
in
the
lower
right-hand
corner
really
reinforced
a
fanning
pattern
in
the
original
plaza
structure.
What
we've
done
in
terms
of
civic
legacy
is
to
look
at
that
structure
and
update
it.
K
So
specifically,
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
for
us
that
not
all
bricks
are
created
equal.
What
this
image
is
showing
is
where,
on
the
plaza
today,
the
original
City
Hall
brick
meets
the
newer
wire
cut,
brick
that
is
associated
with
the
renovations
at
the
MBTA,
and
so
both
those
those
there
are
differences
in
both
those
brick
materials
and
the
installation
methods
that
contribute
to
whether
that
material
is
stable
and
comfortable
to
roll
over
for
the
long
term.
K
There
are
many
in
the
community
that
think
that,
if
installed
correctly,
brick
can
be
a
really
comfortable
surface
to
to
navigate
over.
So
we
wanted
to
talk
specifically
about
what
some
of
the
content
issues
are
with
brick
and
how
the
design
is
planning
to
to
mitigate
those.
So
we
understand
that
point
size,
and
particularly
the
joint
sizes
on
the
existing
City
Hall,
are
really
challenging.
Those
can
be
up
to
one
inch
in
depth
and
are
made
even
worse
by
the
chipping
of
bricks
that
exists
today.
So
the
solution
is
a
wire
cut.
K
Sand,
swept
butt
joint,
which
can
be
less
than
1/16
of
an
inch
and
and
really
provide
a
really
a
minimum
of
joint
and
a
minimum
of
vibration
to
roll
over.
We
understand
that
spot
element
and
movement
over
time
are
also
second
issues
with
brick
in
the
city
of
Boston,
burying
moisture
levels
or
what
caused
that
evening
and,
and
so
the
solution
is
ensuring
that
we're
setting
those
bricks
on
a
concrete
base
with
weep
holes
and
with
edge
restraints
that
ensure
that
there
is
minimal
movement
over
time.
K
These
are
details
that
amused
at
the
MBTA.
Here
you
can
see
some
of
the
issues
with
brick
in
terms
of
chipping.
The
solution
again
is
a
high
density,
low,
porosity,
brick,
and
these
are
again
similar
to
the
ones
installed
at
the
MBTA
project
and
along
Cambridge
Street
and
different
settlement
at
areas
where
brick
joins
with
other
material
pavements
can
cause
tripping
hazards
and
really
significant
challenges
for
those
using
wheels
and
so
again
an
we're,
proposing,
haunch
details
and
pinned
basis
to
ensure
that
that
settlement
and
movement
doesn't
happen
and
doesn't
took
her
long
term.
K
There's
a
significant
theory
for
success
stories
within
the
city
and
specifically
at
City
Hall,
plaza
incorporating
these
kinds
of
detail
with
brick
into
his
stork
patterning
right
right
on
City
Hall,
plaza
the
Washington
Mall
accessibility
project,
as
well
as
the
renovations
at
the
MBTA.
Those
details
have
been
and
well
and
withstood
many
vendors
of
plowing
and
aware
snow
removal
and
not
a
single
one,
has
has
popped
up
and
it's
still
a
really
Universal
smooth
accessible
surface.
K
So
the
city
I
think,
is
very
pleased
with
the
performance
of
this
as
a
material
we've
heard
several
times
from
the
disability
community
that
minimizing
the
joints,
it's
really
critical
and
so
aligning
the
brick
patterning
with
the
direction
of
travel.
So
that
that
longitudinal
level
length
of
the
brick
is
along
that
direction
of
travel
is
really
important,
and
you
can
see
that
we've
really
done
that
on
all
of
the
main
paths
of
travel.
K
The
longitudinal
direction
is
the
one
that
you
would
be
traveling
against
to
minimize
the
joints
that
you
roll
over
in
terms
of
weight,
modeling
I
think
we
have
have
really
been
thinking
hard
about
the
many
different
ways
that
people
find
their
way
through
the
plaza.
So
that
includes
frighten
and
making
sure
that
signage
is
accessible,
has
pavement
in
front
of
it
and
can
be
rolled
right
up
to.
K
Third
would
the
outside
of
the
north
entry,
and
then
my
colleague
Knapp
will
take
you
through
some
of
the
improvements
on
the
interior
of
the
North
three.
So
here
is
the
existing
view
at
the
north
entry
near
complet
Street,
you
can
see
it's
recessed
really
quite
far
in
to
the
building
and
there
isn't
room.
There
hasn't
been
room
here
to
add
the
kind
of
security
infrastructure
that's
needed
in
order
to
reopen
this
entrance
to
the
public.
K
So
what
the
renovation
plan
to
do
is
really
take
the
facade
and
subtly
move
that
out
to
the
edge
of
the
brick
fence,
provide
a
new
entry
court
that
allows
people
to
stay
and
play
and
be
part
of
that
entrance,
and
then
the
security
infrastructure
is
included
in
that
renovated
Lobby.
So
it's
really
an
exciting
opportunity
to
open
the
lower
reaches
of
the
building
again
to
the
public.
In
this
view,
you
can
see
again.
The
goal
is
always
to
keep
all
the
main
access
points
to
the
building
universally
accessible.
K
Since
this
view
was
done,
there
have
been
some
changes
in
the
grading
of
the
fight
due
to
constraints
with
the
MBTA
tunnels,
underneath
that
never
fired
us
to
raise
up
the
site
a
little
bit.
So
the
entrance
will
still
be
universally
accessible,
as
shown
in
that
previous
rendering.
But
there
are
some
ramps
that
are
built
into
that
and
what
we've
again
done
has
tried
to
ensure
that
everybody,
no
matter
their
age
or
ability,
arrives
in
the
same
way,
so
we're
not
separating
stairs
and
ramps,
we're
really
ensuring
that
everybody
arrives
in
that
same
welcoming
way.
L
That
Crosby
architect
is
Sasaki
so
from
viewing
from
within
there's
an
existing
ramp.
That
brings
you
from
the
second
floor
entrance
level
to
the
second
floor,
mezzanine
level
that
you
can
see
here
on
the
right
image,
but
that
ramp,
although
nominally
one
inch
and
12,
is
irregular
in
its
tile
placement
and
it
is
missing
a
landing
to
be
in
keeping
with
the
current
code.
So
the
tile
here
of
this
ramp
will
be,
and
you
can
see
it
here
in
plan
will
be
removed
and
a
new
ramp
will
be
installed.
That
extends
a
little
further.
D
L
Other
that
we're
changing-
and
you
can
see
here
in
the
existing
plan-
is
the
location
of
the
vestibule
and
the
doors
and
that
revolving
door
are
kind
of
between
these
two
piers
in
the
renovated
scheme.
That
vestibule
will
move
out
to
be
further
out
of
the
building
that
allows
for
the
security
features
and
kind
of
a
welcoming
information
desk
and
turnstiles
similar
to
the
west
entry
that
faces
Cambridge,
Street,
so
you'll
be
able
to
come
in
through
through
any
of
these
doors
and
then
navigate
yourself
around.
L
If
you're
your
staff
at
the
city
hall,
you
can
enter
right
in
through
your
access
card
or
move
around
and
get
scanned,
and
then
here
we
can
see
that
kind
of
lower
dashed
blue
line
is
the
existing
ramp
and
then
that
subtle
change
that
happened
to
the
lower
level,
particularly
where
were
installing
the
landing
and
then
lifting
up
that
bottom
portion.
And
then
this
this
surface
of
that
ramp
will
be
a
concrete
surface.
It
will
be
uniform
and
inconsistent.
K
So,
coming
around
to
the
main
entrance,
this
is
a
view
of
the
existing
condition.
There
are
seven
stairs
that
exist
here
between
the
plaza
and
that
third
floor
main
entry,
as
well
as
an
inaccessible
stair
ramp.
That
brings
you
up
to
the
fourth
floor.
Terrace
the
accessible
ramp
was
added
after
the
original
construction
of
the
building
and
has
not,
you
know
not
considered
part
of
the
historic
legacy
of
the
building.
K
So
the
future
is
an
opportunity
for
everybody
enter
towards
the
third-floor
main
entrance
on
a
universally
accessible
less
than
5%
sloped
walkway,
which
brings
you
up
to
that
third
floor
level
and
then
continues
with
an
accessible
route,
which
brings
you
all
the
way
up
to
that
fourth
floor
terrace,
which
will
will
hopefully
be
activated
in
the
future
by
the
city.
It's
a
really
magical
and
majestic
part
of
the
building.
K
If
you
haven't
been
there
before
on
the
way,
there's
an
opportunity
to
integrate
an
accessible
landing,
which
we
call
speaker's
corner,
which
is
an
opportunity
for
the
mayor
and
other
immigrant
speaking
events
to
occur
right
at
the
front
door
and
the
really
important
West
facade
of
the
building.
So
again
it's
a
it's
an
accessible
landing
for
everyone
to
be
be
welcomed
at
you
can
see
that
on
a
daily
basis,
the
entry
is
universally
accessible.
K
So
we
wanted
to
end
just
by
coming
back
to
these
same
four
guiding
principles.
I
think
it's
important
that
the
city,
the
plaza,
be
welcoming
for
everybody
and
really
incorporate
universal
access
on
a
daily
basis,
as
well
as
opportunities
for
events,
modeling
sustainability
and
resilience,
and
then
that
renewing
the
cultural
and
architectural
legacy
and
updating
that
for
21st
century
uses
has
really
been
an
underpinning
of
the
project
and
the
result
is
a
ran,
bigger,
aided
civic
heart
of
Boston,
which
we
are
excited
to
begin
implementing
just
in
a
few
months
time.
K
A
A
couple
housekeeping
things
in
order
to
ask
questions:
I
realize
that
I
didn't
cover
this
at
the
beginning.
In
order
to
ask
questions,
if
you
are
virtual,
if
you
are
online
not
via
the
phone,
if
you're
on
video,
we
ask
that
you
type
into
the
chat
that
you
have
a
question
and
then
Gerry
as
the
board
chair
will
acknowledge
you
there's
no
particularly
clean
nice
way
of
doing
that
on
the
phone.
A
So,
unfortunately,
those
who
are
on
the
phone
will
simply
need
to
just
speak
up
and
we
will
work
to
accommodate
people
as
smoothly
as
possible.
We
just
ask
that
one
person
talk
at
a
time
in
order
for
everybody
to
hear
everybody
in
order
to
ensure
that
communication
is
being
provided
for
our
sign
language,
interpreters,
so
Gerry.
That
leaves
you
to
acknowledge
individuals.
E
E
So
I
think
quite
it's
not
going
to
understand
when
the
construction
will
start.
However,
I
am
concerned
about
what
will
happen
to
the
construction,
for
instance
as
well.
We
don't
really
know
what
the
situation
will
be
with
with
the
lockdown,
but
during
by
this
day,
June
July
August
hypothetically.
What?
When,
when
staff
people
anybody
who's
entering
the
building,
what
will
happen?
It
will
be
I
mean
I,
know
that
will
be
very
complicated.
E
It
would
be
difficult
for,
like
whoopee
people
be
able
to
enter
the
building
during
the
construction,
or
would
that
be
special
which
navigate
whether
you
are
disabled
or
not,
and
what
what
will
be
in
during
that's
to
wait,
because
that
there's
like
during
construction,
that's
even
more
accessible
in
a
way.
So
that's
my
main
concern.
Thank
you.
K
Do
you
see
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
the
city
has
engaged
Chama,
design
and
construction
to
manage
the
construction
process
and
they
have
put
together
a
plan
looking
at
when
exactly
the
it's
looking
at
the
phasing
of
construction,
as
well
as
when
fences
go
up
in
various
areas
and
ensuring
that
there
is
signage
to
direct
people
to
the
most
expedient
routes
and
to
navigate
around
with
the
construction
site.
That's
not,
and
we
can
assure
you
people
there
will
be
actual
to
the
building
throughout
the
entire
construction
process.
K
K
When
those
improvements
that
I
showed
last
at
Cooper's
corner
and
the
moment
three
would
happen,
but
there
will
remain
a
quest
to
the
building
throughout
from
number
three
and
most
of
the
time
from
the
main
entry
as
well,
and
the
fencing
will
incorporate
climate,
the
direct
people
around
to
a
construction
site
to
ensure
that
there
are
still
accessible
routes
around
school
hall.
Plaza
during
construction,
there
are
other
destinations
within
the
city.
E
B
M
Okay,
well,
my
question
is
about
the
brick
I'm.
There
was
a
whole
lot
of
brick.
I
thought
there
would
be
more
of
a
variety
of
materials,
especially
on
the
universal
walkway.
That
would
be
more
contrasting
to
the
work
rather
than
everything
all
the
same.
Color
I
work
for
the
Commission
for
the
blind
and.
M
Also
at
the
speaker's
bureau,
one
suggestion
I
would
have
is
around
the
area
that
people
stand.
It
would
be
good
to
having
a
different,
color
or
different
texture
kind
of
roping
out
where
people
should
stand
away
from
the
entrance.
I've
been
there
when
there's
been
speakers
at
the
entrance
and
it
blocks
the
main
entrance
of
people
coming
in
so
it'd
be
nice
to
have
kind
of
a
define
something
on
the
ground
to
say.
M
Oh,
this
is
where
I
stand,
to
listen
to
the
speaker
as
a
visual
landmark
for
those
people,
and
my
other
question
would
be
is
where
would
I
didn't
see
in
the
designs
where
the
wayfinding
signage
would
be
in
directing
people
on
what
routes
to
get
to
the
main
entrance
to
get
to
the
tea
station
at
Haymarket
or
what
not?
Where
would
those
be
located
on
the
plaza.
K
There
is
actually
both
the
visual
different
location
in
in
the
contrast
between
granite
and
brick,
as
well
as
the
four
own
curb
that
prevents
someone
from
rolling
off
or
inadvertently
walking
on
it
before
you
can
paint
it
protects
you
from
from
that
edge,
and
there
are
also
jointing
and
banding
within
the
brick
patterning,
which
differentiates
the
main
walking
route
from
areas
where
you
might
stand
so,
hopefully
that
helps
enough
for
your
question
I'm.
Finally,
there
there
is
a
sign
in
plan
and
I
recognize
that
we
did
not
include
that
tonight.
K
But
that
is
something
that
the
design
team
is
really
considering
we're
design
it
needs
to
be,
and
what
the
messaging
needs
to
be
to
ensure
that
people
understand
arriving
at
City,
Hall
plaza
and
that
the
adjacent
buildings
around
them
have
a
different
function
and
where
to
find
the
amenities
they're.
Looking
for
in
City,
Hall
plaza
in
particular
as
well
and.
C
K
N
N
K
K
Yes,
no
I'll
defer
to
not
on
the
square
footage.
There
is
a
roof
terrace
and
that
roof
terrace
is
accessible
from
the
GSA
Terrace.
You
can
see
the
GSA
Terrace
is
a
high
up
in
a
plinth
of
landscape
that
sits
into
a
sense
of
the
plaza,
so
that
would
be
accessible
from
this
moon
GSA
Terrace
on
the
roof,
and
then
the
lower
level
is
accessible
from
the
sidewalk,
and
that
is
where
the
Civic
room
is.
K
K
K
There
are
a
number
of
different
places
to
sit
and
be
on
a
daily
basis.
The
design
includes
over
a
hundred
trees,
to
provide
shade
for
the
plaza,
as
well
as
numerous
areas
of
planting.
The
planting
is
being
designed
to
be
relying
on
native
species,
but
also
species
that
provide
a
visual
interest
throughout
the
seasons
and
to
be
low,
maintenance
and
durable
to
city
needs
and
city
climate.
K
So
many
areas
of
planting
over
100
trees
and
many
areas
to
sit
on
a
daily
basis,
I'll
highlight
some
of
those
there's
terraces
along
Cambridge
Street,
there's
a
place
here,
adjacent
to
the
GSA
building
and
Cambridge
Street.
We
call
the
Gathering
Place,
which
is
a
really
nice
place,
surrounded
by
planting
to
gather
on
a
daily
basis.
K
The
Arts
and
Culture
terraces
here
nestled
up
to
the
northwest
corner
of
the
building,
would
be
activated
with
public
art
on
a
revolving
basis,
but
are
also
a
great
place
to
sit
and
be
on
a
daily
basis
with
a
water
feature
that
runs
through
it
and
there
are
terraces
also
adjacent
to
the
MBTA
terraces.
So
there's
an
extent
of
that
space
as
well.
B
N
O
Even
the
Government
Center
brick,
the
new
brick,
is
really
uncomfortable
like
when
you
you
get
bumps
and
stuff
and
it
can
get
slippy
in
the
winter
and
also
the
granite
when
granite
gets
wet.
It's
it
doesn't
have
a
very
good
friction
against
the
wheels
of
a
chair.
That's
lightweight
and
most
manual,
chair
makers
now
are
are
lightweight.
K
Thank
You
Olivia.
We
hear
that
concern
and
I
think
it's
something
we
take
to
heart
and
we're
looking
at
every
way
that
we
can
detail
brick
to
ensure
that
it
provides
a
smooth
and
comfortable
surface
over
the
long
term
and
to
minimize
the
joints
that
are
necessary
to
roll
over
to
minimize
their
size,
to
minimize
the
potential
that
they
might
settle
and
create
more
discomfort
and
to
ensure
that
it
remains
a
smooth
and
stable
surface
for
the
long
term.
G
C
J
So
that
will
minimize
some
extent
the
joints
and
then
we've
also
talked
to
the
property
management
and
public
facilities.
Departments
about
maintenance
and
they've
made
a
commitment
to
maintain
brick,
because
the
old
plaza
suffered
from
a
lack
of
maintenance,
not
due
anybody's
specific
fault,
but
it
just
you
know
it
deteriorated
pretty
badly.
So
I
know
that
with
all
the
money
they're
investing
and
all
the
the
pride
that
the
city
has
in
this
design,
they've
made
a
real
limit
in
maintenance.
J
D
K
Carl
all
the
pieces
that
are
part
of
the
phase,
one
renovation
will
have
the
new
wire
cut
brick.
So
in
that
colored
map
that
I
showed
in
the
very
beginning
any
piece.
That's
part
of
this
phase
of
renovation,
which
includes
most
of
the
north
side
of
the
plaza
and
most
of
the
west
side
of
the
plaza
will
have
the
new
brick
the
south
by
the
look,
is
part
of
a
second
phase
of
renovations
and
will
remain,
as
is
until
the
city
begins,
that
second
phase
of
renovations,
the.
D
Other
thing
is
you
keep
saying
you're
doing
this
because
of
historic
and
preservation:
I
have
all
kinds
of
pictures
of
college
square
from
nineteen
fifties
that
don't
have
a
single
work
in
them,
so
the
brick
you
know
when
they
say
history
and
preservation.
You're
only
talking
fifty
sixty
you're,
not
talking
now
that
battle
and
I'm,
almost
at
age
myself
and
I,
don't
like
to
consider
myself
historic
so
that
just
something
else.
K
Understood
Karl
the
original
design
intended
to
connect
the
his
city's
historic,
brick
sidewalks,
some
of
which
may
not
have
been
in
Scully
square,
but
we're
throughout
the
city
in
the
north
end,
the
West
End,
the
Beacon
Hill,
the
surrounding
parts
of
the
city,
but
I
really
appreciate
your
comments
about
I'm
Scully
square
I
didn't
know
that
there
was
not
a
lot
of
brick
in
that
original
part
of
the
city.
I.
B
Just
wanted
to
take
a
moment,
this
is
Jerry
to
also
say
that
that
I'm
disappointed
that
we're
gonna
be
using
brick.
I
can
understand
the
you
know:
various
historical
societies
and
preservation
society's
that
and
neighborhood.
You
know
organizations
that
would
want
on
it,
but
it
really
is,
you
know,
no
matter
how
we
dress
it
up.
It
is
a
barrier
to
folks
with
disabilities
to
access,
and
it
is
not
the
definitely
not
the
preferred
preferred
materials
to
use
so
I.
J
One
more
comment
on
that:
Jerry
just
to
follow
up.
You
know
when
I
saw
the
design
I
had
the
same
feelings
and
you
won't
meet
a
stronger
advocate
for
concrete
than
me.
But
one
thing,
I
will
say
in
all
honesty
is
the
work
that
they
did
on
the
plaza
so
far
where
the
MBTA
station
is.
They
have
installed
a
lot
of
brick
and
they've
done
granite,
and
it
really
has
held
up
very
well
and
it's
as
smooth
a
surface
as
I
rolled
on.
J
So
that
does
give
me
hope
that
if
the
installation
is
done
well
and
it's
maintained
that
I
think
it
will
still
be
very
accessible,
I
know
it's
not
ideal
and
optimal.
But
I
really
do
think
that
with
the
right,
you
know
with
the
right
installation
that
we
can
achieve
a
really
good,
accessible,
Plaza
sure.
P
Yes,
so
again,
yes,
I
am
disappointed
about
the
brick,
but
I
was
also
wondering
about
I
mean.
Obviously
we
are
not
going
to
have
any
festivals
for
the
most
of
the
year,
but
is
there
like
a
time
frame
on
like
how
exactly
this
will
be
all
done,
because
a
lot
of
festivals
and
everything
is
at
City
Plaza,
fortunately,
and
a
lot
of
it
within
all
of
the
brick
and
everything
seems
kind
of
like
beteen
construction
and
everything
and
I
don't
know
when
exactly
this
will
be
done.
So
if
it
is
gonna
be
done.
K
Sure
the
construction
process
Jelani
starts
this
year,
so
world
will
be
breaking
ground
as
soon
as
we
are
able
to
as
soon
as
the
city's
construction
ban
is
lifted,
and
that
process
takes
about
18
to
24
months.
It's
a
tremendously
technically
complex
construction,
because
the
the
country's
oldest
training
tunnels
sit
below
this
plaza.
K
So
the
city
is
working
to
accommodate
those
festivals
elsewhere
for
the
duration
of
construction
and
then
really
working
to
welcome
them
back,
because
the
newly
renovated
plaza
will
be
actually
a
much
better
place
to
host
events
and
will
enable
people
and
community
groups
from
all
over
the
city
to
to
pretty
easily
come
and
host
an
event
on
the
plaza
there
will
be
infrastructure
built
in
so
that
what
you
can
do
is
what
we
call
plug
in
play.
So
it's
much
more
easy.
You
don't
have
to
bring
your
own
generators
and
equipment
in
power.
K
B
Okay,
just
kind
of
a
follow
up
question
today.
I
know
you
know
waiting
for
we're
waiting
for
the
reopening
that
to
happen
to
begin
construction,
but,
but
you
know
when
would
from
breaking
throughout
the
final
the
final
phase
implementation?
How
long
will
the
project
take?
What's
the
time?
What's
the
timeline.
H
B
P
H
Disappointment
around
the
brick
in
it
to
me,
it
seems,
like
you
all,
are
prioritizing
historic
preservation
over
access
and
kind
of
universal
accidents
for
everyone.
So
I've
also
heard
majority
of
folks
say
that
you
know
brick,
isn't
the
preferred
choice,
so
you
know:
is
there
the
option
of
going
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
looking
at
other
services
that
it
seems
like
everyone
on?
This
call
would
agree
that
there
seems
to
be
things
that
are
more
accessible
than
great.
So
can
you
go
back
and
look
at
other
services?
You.
K
Know
I
think
hi.
Oh,
we
can
continue
that
conversation
with
the
the
city
team
and
the
client
team
and
there's
been
a
you
know.
As
I
said,
a
two-year
process
really
leading
to
this
point
of
engaging
with
stakeholders
from
all
over
the
city
and
looking
to
balance
the
many
many
different
interests
in
Boston's,
most
celebrated
and
most
public
Civic
space
and
I
think
as
a
design
team.
K
We're
really
looking
to
work
with
the
city
to
provide
an
accessible,
durable,
long-term
solution
that
still
meets
the
the
needs
of
the
plaza
to
be
a
space
that
celebrates
Boston
civic
legacy.
So
we're
balancing
a
number
of
things
and
I
think
we
appreciate
your
concern
and
we'll
continue
that
conversation
with
the
city,
the
city,
the
mayor's
office
and
the
public
facilities
Department
about
both
maintenance
and
and
that
material
long-term.
K
J
J
A
G
Okay:
okay,
all
right,
sorry,
folks,
elizabeth-jane
klauer,
advisory
board,
member
from
Back
Bay
I
am
a
public
health
physician
by
training
and
I'm,
very
I.
Think
I.
Think
it's
more
than
disappointing.
I
think
that
these
there
are
really
significant
potential
issues
for
people
in
the
disability
community
that
for
one
thing,
people
with
mobility
issues.
G
But
if
there's
not
even
any
paths
within
this
overall
Plaza
that
truly
is
an
accessible
way
to
get
to
the
building
which,
as
Olivia,
had
brought
up
minimizes
lipid
as
well
as
I
think
that
it's
really
incumbent
on
us
and
the
leaders
of
Spaulding
rehab
and
whatever
to
wherever
that.
This
is
more
than
just
a
point
of
disappointment,
and
because
this
has
an
I
I'm,
not
saying
it's
going
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
the
whole
surface
is
going
to
change.
G
G
You
know,
which
is
very
modern,
so
again,
we're
not
I'm
not
trying
to
throw
that
in
as
they.
You
know
that
this
idea
that,
what's
already
two
years
in
the
making
you
know
one.
No,
it's
not
going
to
be
back
to
the
drawing
board,
but
there
has
to
be
some
way
to
modify
it
and
between
you
know
the
public
officials,
the
university
officials,
there
you
know
Harvard,
MIT,
etc.
There's
just
got
to
be
some
way
to
somehow
modify
this
before
it's
fully
operational.
J
J
If
you
haven't
been
on
the
plaza
yet
maybe
take
a
ride
over
and
you
know,
take
a
look
at
the
new
brick
and
the
new
granite
and,
like
I,
said,
I've
never
been
won
over
before,
because
we've
heard
from
so
many
developers.
Oh,
this
will
be
different.
This
will
be
different,
but
really
I'm,
not
sure
how
long
it's
been
installed.
Maybe
five
years
now
I
mean.
H
K
J
Saying
that,
in
all
honesty,
that
I've
been
impressed
by
it,
so
just
putting
in
that,
to
give
you
a
little
insight
that
this
is
not
something
that
we're
not
all
aware
of.
It's
really
just
a
matter
of
trying
to
balance
the
issues,
and
one
other
point
is
that
the
slip
friction
is
something
that
the
team
looks
very
closely
at.
Did
you
talk
about
that
at
all
Kate
sure.
K
Yeah
I
mean
the
the
bricks
that
were
using
are
hi
den
low
porosity,
brick
that
does
have
an
anti-slip
finish
to
it,
and
we
can
ensure
that
we
are
specking
really
the
the
best
product
on
the
market
when
it
comes
to
wire
cut
brick
with
that
non-slip
finish
on
it,
you
know
these
are
not.
These
are
not
old
boston
bricks,
and
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
really
bad
experiences
with
bricks
throughout
the
city,
but,
as
the
commissioner
noted,
the
experience
on
the
plaza
with
great
detailing
and
high
density
low
porosity,
not
an
ash.
K
E
B
J
B
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
eric,
I
I'm
a
wheelchair
user
and
I
I
would
like
to
add
my
voice
to
the
chorus
of
people
who
are
disappointed
in
the
decision
to
use
brick.
I
would
just
like
to
offer.
I
have
three
different
wheelchairs
and
I
I'm
just
wondering
if
everyone
who
was
advocating
for
brick
has
had
to
traverse
an
area
with
brick.
You
know
on
a
slope
or
you
know
in
in
winter.
Q
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
allow
anyone
who
wants
to
use
any
of
my
to
power
and
one
manual
chair
to
try
it
for
themselves
and
then
try
come
back
and
tell
me
that
that's
a
reasonable
thing
for
someone
to
have
to
endure
on
the
way
to
go.
Do
something
important
at
city
hall,
for
example,
my
partner's
immigration
process.
We
had
to
go
there
and
it
was
a
bone-rattling
experience.
Q
It
would
have
been
anyway
because
it's
similar,
but
this
just
it
was
really
it's
scary.
Frankly,
I
don't
think
that
people
are
thinking
about
the
emotions,
the
sense
of
humiliation
that
we
experience
when
you
know
when,
when
we're
hearing
about
our
interest
in
not
falling
out
of
our
mobility
devices,
an
improper
surface
versus
the
interest
in
the
preservation,
which
is
really
just
a
way
of
saying
keeping
old
things
old
for
the
sake
of
keeping
them
old,
it's
not
it.
It's
it's
a
tautological
interest,
it's
not
it
just
because
something
was
done.
Q
A
certain
way
previously
does
not
mean
that
it
was
good,
does
not
mean
that
we
should
continue
to
do
it
that
way
and
I
just
I
think
that
yeah
I
do
sense
that
you
folks
really
are
concerned
about
this
I.
You
know,
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
that
you're
just
feeding
us
a
line
you
know
I
can
I
can
see
the
emotion
on
your
faces
that
this
is
not
a
good
outcome.
I
I,
just
I
have
never
and
on
any
brick
wire
cut
or
otherwise.
That
was
you
know.
Q
Q
It
can
cause
wear
on
the
motors
of
a
power
chair
and
it
can
cause
wear
on
your
own
body
on
your
shoulders.
As
you
attempt
to
you
know
you
you're
trying
to
push,
and
then
you
fall
into
a
groove
and
the
the
traction
changes
up
and
down
up
and
down
it's
it's.
It's
really
unpleasant
and
again.
I
would
challenge
anyone
who
is
advocating
for
this
to
try
it
for
themselves.
I.
You
can
use
any
of
my
chairs.
J
Q
I,
just
that
you
know
I,
don't
typically,
if
this
was
an
in-person
meeting,
we'd
have
the
opportunity
to
exchange
you
know,
phone
numbers
and
email
addresses
and
so
forth
and
I.
Just
wonder
if
there's
a
way,
but
the
people
who
you
know
the
people
who
are
that
the
Preservation
Society
has
their
own.
You
know
advocacy
group,
I
assume
and
can
contact
each
other
easily.
I
would
be
very
interested
to
talk
with
other
people
who
are
concerned
about
this,
because
this
really
is
access
issue.
There
are
many
public
events
that
I
enjoy
going
to
at
City.
Q
Hall,
not
the
least
of
which
is
pride.
Pride
was
completely
inaccessible.
There
were
temporary
barriers
everywhere.
The
the
restrooms
were
up
several
platform
stairs,
it
was
I
had
it
was
not
accessible
at
all.
The
ramps
were
blocked
by
trash
and
recycling
bins.
There
was
I,
saw
a
crowd
of
people
in
wheelchairs
on
either
side
trying
to
get
through.
So
the
brick
is
just
adding
insult
to
injury.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
that.
I
would
like
to
talk
with
other
people.
If
you.
C
J
J
I'm
trying
to
get
my
computer
plugged
in
I'm
sorry
anyway,
I'm
Eric,
so
what
what
the
lens
of
people
who
were
disabled
really
comes
from
my
office?
You
know:
that's
why
I'm
here!
That's
why
I'm
an
appointed
official?
That's
why
the
property
management
public
facilities
take
our
input
extremely
seriously.
They
know
that
we
represent
the
community
and
believe
me,
I,
understand,
I've
been
a
wheelchair
user
for
many
years,
and
the
old
plaza
the
existing
Plaza
is
actually
a
nightmare
to
get
around.
I
am
not
discounting
that
at
all.
J
I
will
say,
like
I
said
a
few
minutes
ago,
that
the
the
installation
by
the
T
was
done
very
thoughtfully,
very
well
with
a
solid
underpinning
of
whatever
layers
they
do
about
below
the
brick
and
so
it
it
is
a
good
installation
and
it
it
is
actually
accessible.
So
there
will
be
no
more
steps
up
to
restrooms.
It
will
be
no
more
slopes
and
temporary
barriers,
as
the
design
showed
now.
J
There
will
be
places
for
people
to
go
people
to
set
up,
and
you
know
it
just
it
really
will
be
much
more
accessible,
but
I'm,
not
discounting
anything
that
you're
saying.
But
what
I'd
like
to
do,
since
this
is
seems
to
be
the
consensus
I'd
like
for
you
all
to
email
me
your
thoughts
and
then
we'll
get
them
together
and
take
them
to
the
group.
Q
Thank
you,
I
think
I
appreciate
you
being
willing
to
hear
our
thoughts.
What
I'm,
asking
for
that's,
that's
kind
of
like
a
bicycle,
spoke
pattern:
I'm
looking
for
something
more
in
the
way
of
a
spider
web
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
speak
with
other
people
to
see
if
we
could
perhaps
add
to
the
brainstorming
effort
ourselves.
I,
don't
know
how
to
arrange
that
quickly,
but
it
would
be
good
to
do
that
because
we're
all
here
now
I
really.
J
Q
So
Kristin,
are
you
saying
that
we
can't
exchange
information
and
form
a
working
group
here
that
we
have
to
look
down
the
list
of
names
and
Google
people
I'd
rather
not?
Have
it
be
so
diffused?
I
understand
that
you're
willing
to
take
our
comments
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
that
that's
only
half
of
it
I'm
interested
to
use
this
space
and
the
fact
that
these
are
the
people.
The
conscientious
citizens
will
come
together
out
of
a
concern.
Q
J
I
know
I
have
everyone's
contacted
for
more
info
and
we
have
a
large
we're
very
plugged
in
with
a
disability
community.
So
we
we
do
know
the
channels
to
go
through.
But
just
you
know
the
the
meeting
time
and
agenda
or
you
know
it's
made
very
clear
to
people
and
so
we'll
follow
up
offline.
If
you
can
send
me,
your
contact
info
sure.
Q
K
To
the
rest,
that's
an
excellent
question.
The
what's
gonna
stop
movement
of
the
bricks.
Long-Term
is
actually
a
really
good
base
underneath
them
and
for
the
details
we
showed
are
setting
that
setting
the
bricks
on
a
concrete
base
with
weep
holes
to
ensure
that
there
isn't
water
getting
in
there.
There
isn't
an
opportunity
for
those
bricks
to
move
up
and
down
long
term,
because
they're
sitting
on
a
really
stable,
concrete
base
and.
B
K
J
Thanks,
Jerry
and
I
won't
be
long,
so
I
just
want
you
to
let
you
know
for
the
new
format
for
the
online
meetings.
I'm
gonna
take
over
just
doing
quick,
architectural
access,
update
and
office,
two
updates
just
so
we
don't.
You
know,
keep
everybody
here
too
long.
We
know
it's
a
different
format
and
people
need
to
probably
move
and
stretch
so
for
architectural
access
updates
this
month.
The
only
thing
we
really
want
to
say
is
that
construction
is
reopening
in
Boston
this
week,
so
we
will
be
paying
attention
to
new
projects
that
are
coming
through.
J
The
mayor
victim
Institute
of
the
nonfiction
order,
and
so
we
really
just
want
to
stabilize
people
and
keep
them
safe.
So
now
we're
moving
on
to
the
face
of
reopening,
which
is
shouting
very
slowly.
We'll
have
people
and
businesses
starting
to
open
up
offices
opening
up
soon,
and
throughout
this
time
we
will
be
ensuring
that
everything
the
city
does
is
accessible,
inclusive
everything
from
working
with
public
works
and
vtd
to
ensure
that
when
restaurants,
if
they
end
up
using
space
on
the
sidewalks
that
they'll
be
accessible,
maintain
an
accessible
route.
J
We
are
looking
at
initiatives
where
we
can
try
to
by
clear
masks,
face
masks
for
people
so
that
they
can
communicate
businesses
and
just
making
sure
that
virtual
meetings
are
accessible
and
everything
the
city
does
in
this.
Next
phase
will
be
accessible
to
people
with
disabilities.
So
Jessica
was
there
anything
I
missed
with
reopening
I.
A
Think
the
only
thing
that
is,
if,
if
you've
specific
concerns
related
to
the
opening,
please
let
us
know
if
you
there's
a
specific
concern.
I
know
that
be
CIL
and
disability
policy
consortium
have
been
both
doing
different
surveys,
kind
of
asking
people's
opinion
as
to
where
they
stand
and
where
how
they're
feeling
amidst
I
think
week
10
of
the
shutdown,
and
we
are
also
getting
that
feedback.
A
Additionally,
if
you
are
curious
as
to
the
different
safety
regulations
that
are
being
put
in
place
for
construction,
the
city
has
put
together
a
video
that
outlines
all
of
the
different
changes
that
are
being
made
so
feel
free
to
take
a
look
on
the
city
website
or
if
you
can't
find
it.
Let
me
know.
J
Everybody
with
was
I,
know
we're
all
talking
about
getting
back
to
normal
and
we've
heard
a
lot
of
people
say:
there'll
be
a
new
normal
and
we
just
want
to
point
out
that,
instead
of
focusing
on
the
word
normal
take
a
you
point,
deposit
of
focusing
on
the
word
new
and
the
mayor
has
a
real
commitment
to
ensuring
that
everything
is
equitable
and
accessible
and
inclusive.
As
we
reopen
things
and-
and
we
can
all
really-
you
know
understand
how
difficult
this
was
and
and
look
to
things.
J
Hopefully,
you
know
opening
up
soon
and
everybody
being
safe
and
and
getting
to
the
new
normal
and
that's
all
I
have,
except
for
one
other
note
a
little
bit
of
somewhat
good
news.
The
abilities
Expo
has
announced
that
they
will
be
having
a
virtual
Expo.
This
year
it's
gonna
be
June
19
through
June
21st.
So
with
that
we
can
still
participate
so
we'll
get
that
information
out
to
everybody
in
the
next
week
or
so,
and
that's
all
I
have
I
know.
G
I
okay
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was
unmuted
actually
Jerry.
This
is
more
for
you,
but
also
to
let
people
know
who
might
be
watching
just
people
in
the
disability
community
who
might
be
watching
that
there.
Although
now,
people
who
use
the
ride
vehicles
are
have
been
permitted
since
the
end
of
April
to
PCAs
use
the
vehicles
to
come
to
and
from
the
clients
house.
G
If
someone
wants
to
use
that
service,
it
is
running
successfully
it,
but
because
of
this
lack
of
awareness
or
knowledge
that
they,
for
instance,
day
when
I
used
to
have
a
PCA
be
picked
up,
they
I
had,
they
did
not
have
me,
give
her
name
even
though
I
had
offered
to,
and
so
when
she
was
asked,
the
driver
asked
her
and
gave
my
name
instead.
She
just
said
yes,
which
I
think
as
an
interim
solution
until
on
everyone
is
fully
aware
that
that's
allowed
is
the
kind
of
solution
that
needs
needs
to
happen.
G
While
we
continue
to
pursue
it
and
in
fairness
to
the
schedulers
and
the
drivers,
because
some
of
them
were
either
not
driving
or
are
working
remotely
from
home.
Apparently,
even
though
it's
been
over
three
weeks,
that
policy
was
implemented
in
two
days
in
a
row,
I've
run
into
problems
with
staff,
not
knowing
that
that's
the
current
interim
policy,
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
that,
but
that
it
is
actually
working
yeah.
F
F
Moving
forward
that
we're
even
having
this
conversation
and
I
know
for
a
fact
that
on
joy
Street,
they
do
have
the
type
of
brick
that
the
architects
are
talking
about
and
there's
no
complaints
with
anyone
else.
Wheelchair
accessible.
Anyone
was
divock
good,
what
time
I'll
go
with
them
and
we
can
go
up
and
down
the
hill
on
the
sidewalk,
which
goes
right
into
the
street.
That's
right
outside
the
african-american
museum
and
the
brick
there's
no
seams
or
joints.
F
J
C
J
J
For
me
to
know,
and
really
I
know
that
you
all
have
a
lot
of
knowledge
lived
experience,
and
you
certainly
are
passionate
about
these
issues,
and
you
know
we
want.
We
want
you
to
have
faith
in
me
in
the
administration
that
we
are
going
to
add
to
our
absolute
best,
to
improve
accessibility,
create
accessibility
and
Paul
is
right
when
he
says
that
mayor
Walsh
takes
us
very
seriously
he's
given
me
so
much
support
and
implementing
so
many
initiatives
to
increase
accessibility.
Like
we
told
you
about
before,
we
now
have
an
accessibility
checklist
that.
P
J
The
PDA
are
starting;
they
have
to
go
through
a
pretty
rigid
checklist
before
they
get
approval,
so
it
talks
about
like
where
the
access
is
what
the
material
is
asked.
So
we
have
conversations
like
this
Patricia
Sarah
and
I
have
conversations
like
this
many
times
a
week
with
developers
with
you
know
different
people
doing
projects
in
Boston.
So
you
know,
please
have
faith
in
us
that
we
will
will
we'll
get
it
done.
We
will
make
the
Plaza
accessible
and
thank
you
Paul.
B
We
appreciate
you
and
your
staff
again,
commissioner,
and
we
know
that
that
you
have
communities,
we
look
forward
to
being
involved
in
the
rest
of
the
process
and
and
we
look
forward
to
having
a
more
accessible,
more
accessible
plaza
than
what
you,
as
you
mentioned,
it's
a
nightmare
to
get
through
now.
So
so
we
look
forward
to
big
improvements.
B
D
G
Commissioner
is
there
an
update
on
the
status
about
the
masks
that
have
the
open
of
the
clear
part
around
the
mouth?
I
know,
sherry
Bluett
had
brought
that
to
life
that
they're,
using
that
at
the
Brigham
and
when
West
had
brought
that
up
about
for
the
deaf
and
hard
of
hearing
community
I'm
not
being
able
to
meet
lips.
I
was
wondering
where
I
know
that
he
had
followed
up
with
some
vendors
who
supply
it,
but
now
that
she's
also
brought
that
to
more
attention
in
medical
settings.
J
Thanks
Elizabeth,
so
we've
had
several
internal
conversations
about
these
masks
and
one
of
the
issues
right
now
is
that
they're
hard
to
source
because
there's
like
a
backorder
on
them
like
all
masks
and
that
we,
you
know,
we
want
to
preserve
them
for
the
medical
community,
because
that's
critical,
but
we
are
looking
with
partners
in
other
states.
You
know
I
work
with
disability,
commissioners
from
other
states
across
the
country
and
I
know
New
York
and
San
Francisco.
Actually
just
email
me
today
with
a
vendor
who
has
a
supply
of
masks.
J
So
that's
something
that
we
will
be
doing
as
far
as
the
the
scope
and
the
scale
I
can't
say
right
now,
but
we
will
at
least
get
some
clear
masks
that
we
can
give
out
as
needed.
Even
if
it's
just
in
City
Hall.
We
would
like
to
do
it
for
the
broader
community
and
we're
in
discussions
about
that.
We
do
have
some
funding
that
we
can
potentially
use
for
this
project.
So
the
only
good
news
is
is
that
things
will
be
opening
slowly,
so
hopefully,
by
the
time
like
business
is
open.
J
G
Because,
even
if
I
understand
it
might
not
be
available
to
the
broader
community,
but
I
would
think
other
policemen
or
people
at
the
MBTA,
the
people
in
positions
where
either
of
authority
or
where
information
promises
of
whatever.
If
there
are
some
cement
settings,
so
that's
medically
related.
But
if
there
are
some
places
where
a
communication
level
is
beyond
medical
but
not
necessarily
community-wide
yeah.
J
B
A
A
There
are
only
so
many
companies
that
are
making
these
masks
and
they
are
often
companies
that
are
serving
the
entire
country
and
they
are
trying
to
get
them
as
fast
as
they
can
to
to
hospitals
to
medical
staff
to
government's
municipal
governments.
State
governments,
and
so
the
upside
of
kind
of
everybody
focusing
on
PPE,
is
that
it
is
allowing
other
industries
that
don't
typically
make
PPE
to
focus
their
efforts
on
PPE,
and
so
we
have
seen
some
innovation
come
from
that
I
know
that
some
I
believe
it's.
A
A
I'm
so
glad
that
I
got
a
thing
right,
and
so
there
is
some
innovation
that
is
coming
from
these
things,
or
certainly
not
saying
that
we're
going
to
invest
in
face
shields
to
give
out
to
everyone
and
anyone,
because
the
investment
of
that
would
be
significantly
steep.
But
it
does
point
to.
There
is
innovation,
and
there
is
hope
that
these
things
won't
be
back
ordered
forever.
A
But
there
are
only
a
couple:
vendors
who
are
doing
this
kind
of
work,
and
there
is
more
and
more
for
lack
of
a
better
word
publicity
about
these
masks,
and
so
the
demand
is
getting
higher.
And
so
there
continues
to
be
a
backorder.
But
we
are
tracking
it
and
is
a
priority
of
our
office
to
to
really
get
access
to
these
supplies
and
make
sure
that
they're
getting
out
to
the
people
that
need
them
very
well.
B
Any
seconds
to
that
motion
at
second
all
in
favor,
okay,
the
meeting
adjourned
I,
thank
everybody
for
their
spirited
comments
and
but
again
I
do
have
faith
in
the
Commissioner
and
and
staff
that
the
City
Hall
plaza
project
will,
you
know,
have
our
best
interests
at
heart
and
that
we
will
be
allowed.
You
know
input
as
as
it
goes
on,
so
thank
you
and
thank
you.
B
A
The
next
meeting
Commissioner,
can
you
confirm
the
next
meeting
date
for
me,
I'm
trying
to
pull
it
up.
We
meet
on
because
I
know
that
Eric
I
saw
that
you
commented
that
you're
wondering
what,
when
the
next
meeting
is,
the
next
meeting
will
be
June,
17th,
June,
17th
5:30,
we
will
send
out.
I
can
confidently
say
that
the
next
one
will
be
virtual
and
so
that
one
will
also
be
virtual
and
I
will
send
out
the
link
in
our
newsletter
and
our
social
media
Eric
and
anybody
else
on
the
public.
A
If,
for
some
reason
you
can't
get
the
link
or
you
can't
find
it
feel
free
to
email,
the
link,
that's
in
the
chat
which
is
disability
at
Boston
gov,
and
we
can
email
you
that
information
directly.
It
is
not
always
the
third
Wednesday,
it's
sometimes
the
second
Wednesday
and
sometimes
the
fourth
Wednesday.
We
compete
with
a
couple
other
municipal
board
meetings
for
different
topics,
and
so
we
don't
always
get
the
same
way.
We
compete
all.