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Disability Commission Advisory Board Meeting 5-29-2019
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Good
evening,
everyone,
the
open
meeting
law,
requires
that
I
notified
the
public
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded.
Therefore,
please
be
aware
that
an
audio
and
visual
recording
of
this
meeting
is
being
made
and
broadcast
by
Boston
City
TV,
which
is
a
part
of
the
city
of
Boston
office
of
cable
communications.
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If
you
take
a
look
at
the
summer
workshop
series
summer,
Fitness
series
you'll
notice
that
we
offer
something
called
chair
yoga
for
some
of
our
constituents
that
have
limited
mobility
and
access
any
of
the
programs
that
are
typically
offered
by
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Department.
If
you
should
call
the
department,
we
will
make
accommodations
to
get
interpreters
if
necessary,
to
guide
you
through
where
your
best
entry
points
are
for
the
venues
that
we're
hosting
them
with
parks.
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It
can
be
kind
of
touch-and-go
and
varying
entrances
speak
to
different
challenges,
but
we
typically
know
exactly
which
ones
are
the
best
route
to
getting
use
front
and
center,
and
where
that
location
is,
we
always
want
to
again
build
inclusivity
into
our
programming.
So
nobody
should
ever
feel
left
out
trying
to
I
apologize,
because
in
the
work
that
we
do,
I'm
usually
used
to
gate,
fielding
questions
and
not
necessarily
presenting
what
resources
we
up.
We
offer.
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Absolutely
so,
with
our
concert
series
I
was
explaining
this
a
little
bit
earlier.
We
like
to
move
them
around
throughout
the
city,
so
that
no
one
neighborhood
is
getting
the
wealth
of
our
offerings
and
what
you
may
see
if
you've
ever
been
to
any
of
our
concert
series
is
that
we
try
to
move
them
from
Park
to
park
even
in
the
same
neighborhoods.
So
what
you'll
hear
what
you
see
here
is
we
have
varying
local
artists
on
the
concert
page
starting
Wednesday
July
10th
at
Horatio
Harris
Park
in
Roxbury.
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Sundays
in
the
park
are
a
collaboration
with
the
Symphony
Orchestra
and
those
start
on
Sunday
July
28th
at
Pine,
Bank
and
Jamaica
pond
the
watercolor
paintings
workshops
start
Saturday,
June
8th.
They
run
Saturdays
and
Sundays
throughout
the
summer
into
September
and
they
visit
varying
parks
such
as
Jamaica
pond
boathouse
Allendale
Woods,
Christopher,
Columbus
Park,
where
folks
have
an
opportunity
to
watercolor
just
about
anything
they
want,
but
there
will
be
an
instructor
that
kind
of
guides
you
through
a
theme.
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If
you'd
like
to
partake
in
that
artist-in-residence
series
workshops
are
Tuesday,
Wednesday,
Thursday
and
Friday's
through
July,
and
those
will
be
happening
at
McConnell,
Parker
turd
house
in
Roxbury,
Daugherty
playground
in
Charlestown
in
East,
Boston,
Memorial,
Park
and
there's
also
some
more
sorry,
Joy's
playground,
Medal
of
Honor
Ringgold
and
Mozart
Street
playground
and
then
again
the
summer
fitness
series.
These
are
just
two
of
the
several
offerings
that
are
being
hosted
in
collaboration
with
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission.
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So
I
don't
know
about
the
first
aid
stations,
but
that
is
something
that
I
can
absolutely
find
out
and
report
back
to
the
Commission.
For
you
in
terms
of
accessibility,
it
is
my
understanding
and
I've
witnessed
myself
to
the
many
events
that
we've
hosted.
We've
always
asked
for
at
least
an
accessible
sized
porta
potti
that
gets
delivered.
So
it's
it's
usually
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
two
of
the
standard
size
and
one
of
the
accessible
ones,
yeah.
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I
just
think
the
reason.
The
main
reason
why
I'm
asking
about
friends
is
the
first
eight
stations,
yes,
because
they
could
also
be
used
not
just
for
a
first
aid
clinic
also
like
if
somebody
is
going
through
something
a
medical
condition
or
whatever
just
so,
they
can
be
somewhere
for
the
time
being.
I'd
tell
so
they'll
have
to
like.
Oh
I
have
to
go
home,
not
because
it's
happened.
Sure.
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I
know
from
personal
knowledge
of
events
that
I've
worked,
that
we
always
have
a
first-aid
kit,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
will
speak
to
all
of
the
needs
of
first
aid
and
our
trained.
My
personal
training
is
rather
limited,
but
I
would
I
will
actually
I
will
absolutely
bring
that
back
to
our
department
and
see
how
we
can
implement
that
change.
Thank
you.
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What
I'm
finding
is
for
signing
interpret
the
sign
interpreting
interpreters,
they're,
asking
us
about
48
hours.
We
are
actively
going
to
work
on
a
way
to
try
to
build
some
of
that
infrastructure
in
to
our
program
offerings.
If
it's
something
like
closed,
captioning
and
or
first
AIDS,
those
are
kind
of
minutes
a
minute.
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Hi
Thank
You
teri
to
follow
up
on
ones,
question
I
would
say,
though,
the
mo
the
more
notice
you
can
give
the
better.
So
as
soon
as
you
realize,
you'd
like
to
attend
an
event,
you
should
contact
the
number
on
the
flyer
or
website.
But
my
question
is:
could
you
talk
at
all
about
Martin's
Park,
that's
opening
on
June
30th.
What.
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Is
and
unfortunately,
I
am
limited
in
terms
of
the
design
aspects
for
it
as
I.
Wasn't
the
project
manager
on
that
particular
part,
but
as
I
understand
it
you're
right
all
of
the
play
structures
have
levels
of
inclusivity
which
which
speaks
to
much
of
what
we've
a
mission
we've
adopted
in
the
parks
department.
Where
anytime
we
go
into
a
capital
renovation.
We
are
not
looking
just
again
for
compliance.
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We
are
looking
for
actual
inclusivity,
so
we've
started
implementing
at
least
one
play
structure
that
is
fully
inclusive,
whether
it
be
dish,
swings
and
basket,
swings
and
we've
had
some
handicap
accessible
or
wheelchair,
accessible
merry-go-rounds
and
such
implemented.
I,
don't
know
the
specific
play,
structures,
I
think
that's
part
of
the
big
reveal
that's
coming
with
Martin
Park,
but
I
encourage
everybody
to
come
out
on
a
Saturday,
June
15th
at
10:00
a.m.
I
believe,
and
it's
an
all-day
affair.
It's
it
really
is
gonna,
be
quite
spectacular.
Opening
you
think.
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M
I
You
should
have
to
actually
have
something
that
says
to
people
that
if
they
have
a
special
accommodation
who
to
contact
sure,
because
if,
for
example,
you
requesting
48
hour
notice
for
interpreter,
if
people
don't
know
to
make
the
request,
they
might
assume
that
the
interpreter
is
already
there.
Okay,
so
I
really
I
mean
for
whatever
you
do
as
far
as
activities.
You
should
put
a
statement
duly
noted.
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I'm
excited
Jerry
and
to
go
back
to
the
merry-go-round
question
so
Olivia.
In
the
past
year,
I've
met
with
Laura
and
Brian,
who
is
the
manager
for
that
project?
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
merry-go-round
but
there's
a
ship
and
a
lot
of
other
lengths
and
all
of
the
play
structures
are
inclusive
so
that
that's
that's
the
beauty
of
it.
Let.
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Me
be
clear
when
I
mentioned
the
merry-go-round
we
recently
in
every
as
recent
as
18
months
ago,
installed
one
in
children's
park
on
interval
Street
by
the
Lila
Frederick
pilot
school.
So,
and
that
was
at
after
working
very
closely
with
the
school,
because
they
have
many
students
that
need
accommodations
and
we
were
happy
to
oblige.
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B
Today
and
letting
us
know
about
all
the
nice
summer,
events,
hopefully
when
the
weather
cooperate,
though
I'm
like
today,
but
I
was
at
I,
was
at
concert
myself
last
summer
and
I
didn't
see
any
porta-potties
there,
so
I
mean
is
that
standard
operating
procedure
that
they
would
have
access
that
restrooms
available.
Do.
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Good
evening,
how
are
you
Wow,
the
slides
are
being
brought
up.
I
just
want
to
quickly
introduce
myself
and
the
organization.
Oh
thank
you.
So
my
name
is
Katherine
Carnes
and
the
chief
of
staff
at
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission,
which
is
the
city's
Health
Department,
were
also
a
sister
department
to
the
disabilities
Commission
in
the
Health
and
Human
Services
cabinet.
So
we
work
closely
together
to
ensure
that
all
Boston
residents
are
able
to
live
full,
healthy
lives
and
I'm.
Here
on
behalf
of
dr.
L
Jennifer,
Lowe
who's,
our
medical
director
and
she's,
our
mental
health
experts.
So
I
will
do
my
best
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
and
then,
if
I'm
not
able
to
answer
them,
I
will
report
back
to
you.
I'll
get
information
from
dr.
Lowe
and
report
back
to
you
great.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
the
health
department
for
the
city
of
Boston
and
our
mission
is
to
protect,
preserve
and
promote
the
health
and
well-being
of
all
Boston
residents,
particularly
the
most
vulnerable,
so
you'll
notice.
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Can
you
hear
me
now,
okay,
great
so
I've
included
here
a
definition
about
mental
health
as
I
as
I
mentioned
previously,
we
we
like
to
think
of
health
in
a
very
holistic
and
Broadway.
So
a
definition
from
our
national
experts
is
that
mental
health
includes
our
emotional,
psychological
and
social
well-being.
It
affects
how
we
think
feel
and
act.
It
also
helps
determine
how
we
handle
stress,
relate
to
others
and
make
choices.
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And
so
we
have
a
quote
here
from
one
of
the
residents
expressing
that
many
residents
are
impacted
by
untreated
mental
health
communities
and
families
that
have
multi-generational
issues
around
poverty,
lack
of
education
histories
of
trauma
and
violence.
So
I
think
it's
sort
of
highlights
how
complex
mental
health
issues
are
and
how
they
really
relate
to.
So
many
of
the
other
health
issues
that
we
as
a
city
are
facing
like
community
violence
and
trauma
substance
use
disorders
in
a
generational
poverty.
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So
we
see
you
know
higher
numbers
among
our
black
and
Latino
youth
among
our
female
youth,
as
well
as
among
our
LGBTQ
youth.
So
those
are
indicators
that
we
might
have
certain
folks
who
we
should
reach
out
to
to
target
some
of
our
services
and
I'll
get
into
the
services
in
just
a
moment
for
adults,
we
asked
a
very
similar
question
and
it's
about
feeling
sad,
blue
or
depressed
same
years
over
three
surveys:
thirteen
fifteen
and
seventeen-
and
it
looks
like
sorry,
I
realized.
The
numbers
aren't
printed
on
the
slide
here,
but
it's.
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Just
make
a
note,
okay,
so
in
terms
of
our
services,
so
we
don't
have
a
specific
department
of
mental
health
services
within
the
Commission,
but
rather
it's
embedded
across
all
of
the
programs
and
services
that
we
offer
and
I'm
going
to
share.
Just
some
highlights
we're
also
developing
a
briefing
handout
on
these
services.
That's
not
quite
ready,
but
I'm
going
to
get
it
over
to
the
Commissioner
when
it
is
so
that
she
can
share
it
with
you.
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So
some
of
the
direct
services
that
we
have
are
the
first
three
that
are
listed
here
are
all
in
our
child:
adolescent
and
Family,
Health
Bureau,
so
they're
specifically
targeted
for
youth.
There
is
the
early
childhood
mental
health
program,
which
is
for
young
kids
and
that's
in
partnership
with
community
health.
Centers
healthy
baby,
healthy
child
is
for
parenting
or
pregnant
moms
and
newly
parenting
moms,
and
then
our
school-based
health
centers,
which
reach
school-aged,
kids
and
high
school
kids,
and
then
also
in
our
homeless
services,
Bureau
so
and
our
shelters,
our
homeless
shelters.
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And
then
we
have
a
whole
suite
of
programs
that
are
related
to
substance
use
disorders
and
they
each
incorporate
mental
health
services
for
folks
who
have
comorbidities
so
residents
who
have
both
mental
health
conditions
as
well
as
substance
use
disorders,
and
we
have
those
in
a
variety
of
settings.
So
we
have
the
first
two
that
are
listed
here
are
for
women
and
for
men
and
they're,
both
outpatient
programs.
We
also
offer
services
through
what
we
call
our
engagement
center,
which
is
a
low
threshold
site.
It's
essentially
a
big
sturdy.
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L
We
also
do
a
lot
of
work
to
train
our
public
health
providers,
who
might
be
interacting
with
residents
who
need
support.
So
our
emergency
medical
services
or
ambulances
have
a
series
of
training
programs
to
make
sure
that
EMTs
and
paramedics
know
how
to
support
folks
who
might
be
having
a
mental
health
crisis,
and
we
also
do
work
with
our
Ryan
White
services,
which
is
a
program
for
persons
living
with
HIV,
so
training
providers,
and
then,
lastly,
we
have
our
violence.
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Prevention
division
provides
trainings
on
trauma-informed
care,
so
that's
helping
providers
of
many
types
work
with
residents
who
have
experienced
trauma
and
might
need
additional
support
to
engage
in
care.
I
do
want
to
share
a
little
bit
about
the
work
that
we're
doing
as
an
organization,
and
so
this
affects
all
the
services
that
I've
just
mentioned
around
strengthening
accessibility.
So
we
have
an
ad
a
compliance
workgroup
committee
that
is
looking
across
our
campuses
and
programs
to
improve
the
accessibility.
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So
beyond
the
services
that
we
provide,
there
are
other
services
available,
so
our
mayor's
Health
Line
is
listed
here.
That
is
one
of
our
programs,
but
it's
listed
with
the
resources
in
this
city
because
it's
really
a
referral
site,
so
you
can
call
and
access
get
information
about
accessing
health,
insurance
and
figuring
out,
which
providers
are
mental
health
providers
or
in
which
networks,
so
that
you
can
ensure
that
you
have
insurance
coverage
and
then
the
other
services
are
just
a
sampling
of
other
resources
that
are
available
in
this
city
and
they
each
have.
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L
Those
services
have
all
been
restored
on
a
mainland,
so
to
speak,
but
we're
in
the
process
now
of
planning
to
figure
out
what
a
new
recovery
campus
could
look
like,
and
so
this
is
being
led
by
the
mayor's
office
of
recovery
services
and
the
goal
is
to
sort
of
reinvasion
of
recovery
campus.
That
would
provide
a
range
of
services
for
folks
with
substance
use
disorders,
but
obviously
mental
health
is
a
big
part
of
that
and
they're
taking.
L
They
were
taking
public
comments
and
hosting
community
meetings
to
get
feedback
from
residents
and
they're
doing
sort
of
what
we
would
call
a
master
planning
process
to
figure
out.
You
know
how
to
move
forward
with
the
plans
and
also
assessing
the
infrastructure
of
the
island.
So
there
are
buildings
on
the
island
that
they
need
to
determine
how
to
modernize
them.
I
can
look.
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M
G
They
think
about
adding
in
that
language
of
asking
about
anxiety.
That's
the
first
question
cuz.
That
is
a
little
different
from
being
feeling
this
sadness
and
soso
being
anxious
of
not
doing
something
is
important
and
how
a
person
functions.
I
live
with
that.
So
I
think
that
asking
that
question
you
might
glean
with
more
information
versus
just
asking
whether
you
sad
or
blue
I
mean
because
that
doesn't
cover
it
for
me.
So
yeah
also
I
saw
a
lot
of
information
for
youth
in
adult,
but
it
isn't
specifically
talk
about
elder
depression.
N
G
G
L
In
terms
of
the
first
question
in
the
so
I
shared
two
data
sources,
one
was
a
is
a
survey
that
we
do
every
two
years
and
one
is
a
special
survey.
That's
being
done
this
year
with
the
hospitals
in
the
health
centers.
The
special
survey
also
had
focus
groups
that
accompanied
it
and
one
of
the
focus
groups
was
with
elders,
both
among
the
elders
and
among
the
others.
Others
who
responded.
L
They
did
report
concerns
about
anxiety
so
that
that
did
come
up
as
a
high
priority
issue
and
then
in
terms
of
elders,
so
we
are
able
to
and
I
don't
have
them
with
me
today,
but
we
are
able
to
look
at
those
survey
results
by
age,
so
we
could
take
a
look
at
it,
but
yes,
I
think
so.
I
can't
give
you
the
numbers,
but
it
anecdotally
yeah.
We
definitely
see
you
know.
L
High
rates
of
mental
various
mental
health
conditions
among
elders
and
I
know
that's
something
that
you
know
folks
are
concerned
about,
provide
being
able
to
provide
services.
Our
other
sister
Department
they
aged
strong
Commission,
which
is
a
separate
agency,
does
a
lot
of
work
to
help
elders
and
we
work
together
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
their
needs
so
I
don't
know
offhand
of
anything
specific,
but
I
can
find
out.
G
J
G
Speak
into
the
microphone
the
work
that
you'll
be
doing
with
this
Commission
I'm
interested
in
seeing
you
know
what
that
looks
like
I
know:
you're
gonna
be
working
very,
very
profusely
with
this,
but
because
it's
new
for
me
work
in
depression
and
trying
to
manage
my
life.
It's
it's
been
huge
because
it's
new
to
me
I
wasn't
born
into
it.
So
you
know
there
are.
G
There
are
a
few
folks
that
are
coming
from
a
work
life
that
all
of
a
sudden
depressions
part
of
that
or
anxieties,
part
of
that
or
whatever
the
mental
health
issue
is
part
of
that
life.
So
it's
difficult
to
handle.
So
now
you
have
to
kind
of
identify
you
it's
ability
since
really
I'm,
not
saying
that
you're
not
looking
at
this,
but
it's
I'm
just
excited
to
see
that
the
work-
that's
gonna
be
happening
here.
G
L
C
L
It's
part
of
their
training
program,
so
it
is
specific
to
EMS
because
they
have
requirements
as
they
are
recruited
into
the
into
the
team
as
as
paramedics
and
EMTs
and
then
throughout
their
service.
It's
required,
but
of
course
EMS
and
Fire
and
Police
worked
so
closely
together.
So
I
mean
it's
certainly
something
we
could
explore.
I
think
there's
different
levels
of
training
that
are
is
offered.
L
They
have
a
long
training
program
as
they
as
they
become
new
EMTs
and
paramedics.
So
it
might
not
be
practical
to
offer
the
full
scope,
but
we
could
certainly
look
into
thinking
about
you
know
a
one-day
training
or
condensing
some
resources
to
share
with
them.
I
will
say
for
the
police
and
I
think
this
was
up
on
the
slide.
L
One
thing
that
they
do
have,
which
is
a
great
resource,
is
the
best
team,
so
the
best
team
actually
pairs
mental
health
clinicians
with
police
officers
in
the
field,
so
they
are
able
to
accompany
police
officers
to
respond
to
incidents
or
calls
where
they
believe
mental
health
conditions
might
be
complicating.
The
response
I
believe.
E
Thank
you
again
for
your
presentation.
I
am
actually
right.
I'm
really
excited
about
what
you're
doing
and
I
also
wanted
to
piggyback.
On
thirsty
mentioned
that
you
are
I
really
had
excited,
you
were
collaborating
with
bosses,
a
big
Commission
and
I,
probably
asking
the
same
question.
Everybody
else
is
asking.
Maybe
I
wanted
to
do
a
specialized
training,
mental
health
specialist,
for
example,
families
because
they're
like
different
families
who,
for
cultural
reasons,
for
example,
they
they
have
someone
their
family
was
who's
another
spectrum
or
other
they
have.
E
L
As
well
so
I
hear
I
hear
you
talking
a
little
bit
about
stigma
and
that's
something
that
we've
heard
from
focus
groups
and
from
a
lot
of
residents.
You
know
across
the
city
in
different
communities,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
want
to
explore
some
new
work
around.
So
that's
definitely
something
that's
on
our
radar
in
terms
of
training,
families,
I,
don't
believe
we
have
anything.
That's
specifically
a
training
for
families,
but
a
number
of
our
programs
in
our
child.
N
Thank
you,
I
think
Olivia
made
a
good
point
was
a
BPD
about
having
Stan
advocate
with
him.
You
wouldn't
happen
to
know
what
the
ratio
would
be,
and
you
know
if
someone
gets
a
call
on
a
section
of
Boston
and
there
isn't
an
advocate
someone
to
go
help
and
the
police
show
up
if
they're
not
properly
trained
Sarah.
Is
there
any
kind
of
ratio
like
one
for
every
20
police
officers,
one
per
station
or
I.
N
L
N
J
I
think
that
brings
up
a
good
point
that
maybe
we
could
have
somebody
from
Human
Resources
come
to
a
board
meeting
and
just
talk
about
employment
within
the
city
for
persons
with
disabilities.
It's
probably
a
little
bit
out
of
Katherine's
purview.
Okay,
it's
more
Human,
Resources
related
in
that
division,
but
I
know
Kathryn
and
other
of
her
staff
have
taken
that
interns
and
the
internship
program
that
we
do
is
with
mass
rehab.
J
It
gives
ten
adults
with
disabilities
or
a
job
ready,
a
chance
to
come
and
work
for
the
city
for
six
weeks
and
a
paid
internship
and
really
show
their
skills
get
to
make
connections
and
from
that
program
we've
had
three
or
four
people
get
full-time
city
jobs.
So
it
is
a
great
experience,
but
but
I
definitely
follow
up
on
that.
Thanks.
I
L
So
the
surveys
were
done
in
the
community.
We
worked
on
the
survey
with
all
of
the
hospitals,
so,
as
you
may
know,
from
your
roles
in
the
community,
lots
of
people
want
to
hear
from
residents
and
sometimes
they
can
get
a
little
burdensome.
There
might
be
ten
different
surveys
that
are
out
in
the
community
at
the
same
time.
L
So
we
worked
on
one
survey,
all
of
the
hospitals
and
all
of
the
health
centers
and
the
Health
Commission,
and
a
number
of
partners
work
together
to
just
create
one
so
that
we
wouldn't
overburden
our
residents
and
we
could
get
good
information
so
the
surveys,
while
they
were
for
the
hospitals,
they
were
actually
done
in
community
settings.
So
we
worked
with
different
community
organizations,
so
they
were
delivered
at
community
meetings
through
various
service
sites.
It
was
available
online.
B
B
B
L
M
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
have
a
question
about
what
I
saw
on
one
of
the
PowerPoint
slides.
You
had
mentioned
something
about
an
extension,
expanding
your
services
and
4tt
wise
and
so
I'm
a
little
bit
surprised
because
that's
kind
of
outdated
in
technology
for
the
deaf
community
at
this
point
and
I
know
maybe
a
few
people
that
actually
still
use
titi
wise,
but
they
typically
use
other
ways
of
communicating
text
messaging
services.
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
something
like
that.
L
L
Yep
so
I
believe
they
wanted
to
ensure
some
minimum
accommodation
every
site,
so
the
recites
that
did
not
even
have
TT
Y's
so
I
believe
the
disabilities
Commission
had
a
hearing
earlier
today.
Is
that
correct?
You
did
yeah
and
I
know
that
our
the
person
who
leads
our
ad
a
compliance
workgroup,
wants
to
get
feedback
through
this
process
to
understand
other
ways
that
we
can
improve
our
accessibility
and
make
accommodations.
So
that
was
one
initial
step,
but
it's
really
important
feedback
to
hear
that
that
might
not
be
the
best
technology.
L
J
L
Know
people
don't
use
them,
yeah
I
think
the
word
expanded
might
have
been
a
bit
of
an
misleading.
It's
more
that
we
were
making
sure
that
we
didn't
have
sites
that
were
lacking
some
form
of
Technology
we're
working
on
improving
our
technology
in
general.
So
we're
we're
happy
to
take
advice
to
move
us
forward
into
the
current
century.
K
A
K
I
think
Felicia
mention
for
its
absence
idea.
Are
there
others
that
are
kept
under
the
radar
of
the
city
to
follow
this?
The
other
question
I
have
is
the
data
source
of
all
the
service
that
they
have
collected?
Is
that
open
to
the
public?
And
if
the
office
of
Boston
Public
Health
is
open
to
collaboration
with
groups
that
are
interested
in
more
about
the
data
collected
sure.
L
So
the
population
health
survey
that
we
do
every
other
year,
it's
open
to
the
public.
It's
what's
called
a
random
digit
dial
survey,
which
basically
means
that
we
sample
to
try
to
get
a
representative
group
of
residents.
So
people
get
a
phone
call
you're
sort
of
selected
through
a
sample
and
we
hope
that
the
sample
represents
residents.
So
it's
Metin,
you
know
we
can't
ask
every
single
resident.
So
basically,
this
is
a
statistical
way
of
getting
a
representative
sample
of
residents,
and
that
survey
is
where
the
questions
about
feeling
sad
and
blue
come
from.
L
But
in
addition
to
that
survey
we
also
look
at
a
lot
of
other
data
and
we
can
look
at
data
from
health
care
utilization
record
so
hospitalizations,
for
example,
we
can
look
at
vital
records
which
would
be
like
birth
and
death
certificates.
So,
for
example,
we
can
look
at
suicide
rates
and
that's
something
that
we
track
and
pay
attention
to.
We
also
look
as
we
discussed
earlier.
Ems
is
part
emergency
medical
services
as
part
of
our
organization,
so
we
can
look
at
their
data.
L
So
if
someone
is
transported
to
a
hospital
because
they
have
a
mental
health
incident,
what
it
could
be,
you
know
a
suicide
attempt
or
some
other
mental
health
crisis.
We
could
look
at
those
data,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
other
data
that
we
can
look
at
in
terms
of
the
survey.
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
ask
them
what
other
questions
are
relevant,
but
that
question
is
the
broadest
questions.
That's
the
one
that
sort
of
is
the
most
general.
J
L
B
O
O
O
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much
for
fitting
me
in
my
name
is
John
Kelly
and
I'm.
The
director
of
second
thoughts,
Massachusetts
disability
rights,
advocates
against
assisted
suicide.
We
are
the
state
affiliate
of
not
dead,
yet
the
national
grassroots
group
that
formed
in
response
to
the
killing
spree
of
Jack
Kevorkian
most
of
his
victims
were
not
terminally
ill
but
disabled,
but
the
media
never
would
correct
that.
Misperception.
O
O
This
is
the
mindset
of
better
dead
than
disabled,
and
you
know
there's
plenty
of
movies,
promoting
death
for
us,
I'm
paralyzed
below
the
shoulders,
and
whenever
I
see
myself
on
the
big
screen,
you
can
be
sure
I'm,
pining
away
for
a
quick
death
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
review
our
usual
talking
points
against
assisted
suicide
and
then
I'll
talk
about
how
these
bills
are
aimed
directly
at
disabled
people.
We
make
three
main
points
from
the
public
health
perspective.
O
Our
first
point
is
that
millions
of
people
are
misdiagnosed
every
year,
including
thousands
of
people,
labeled,
terminally,
ill,
meaning
six
months
or
less
to
live.
Doctors
are
wrong
all
the
time,
and
the
statistics
are
that
between
12%
and
15%
of
people
who
get
a
terminal,
diagnosis
will
outlive
their
doctors
prediction.
O
O
She
believed
that
assisted
suicide
was
necessary
to
avoid
suffering,
so
she
voted
for
the
bill
in
Oregon
and
when
she
herself
got
diagnosed
as
terminally
ill
from
cancer.
She
asked
her
doctor
for
the
lethal
drugs
over
a
few
visits.
He
persuaded
her
to
try
more
treatment.
She
finally
agreed
and
19
years
later.
She
is
so
glad
that
she
changed
their
minds.
Assisted
suicide
laws
inevitably
kill
innocent
people
who
are
nowhere
near
dying.
O
Disabled
people
are
especially
vulnerable
to
misdiagnosis.
Many
people
in
our
community
have
been
labeled
terminal,
some
more
than
once.
So
you
know
these
bills
are
promoted
as
giving
people
a
choice.
You
know
the
bill
is
called
end
of
life
options
Act,
but
you
can't
have
a
choice
when
you
don't
have
accurate
information,
you
also
don't
have
a
choice
when
insurance
companies
and
state
Medicaid
refused
to
cover
your
prescribed
treatment,
for
example,
in
California
Stephanie
Packer,
who
has
Clara
DOMA.
O
Disabled
people
know
what
it's
like
to
be
denied
options
for
better
living.
You
also
don't
get
a
choice
when
you
are
abused
or
neglected
or
coerced
one
out
of
ten
people
over
the
age
of
sixty
are
abused
every
year,
whether
financially,
emotionally
or
physically.
Most
abuse
comes
from
family
members
who
may
be
more
interested
in
heritage.
The
persons
are
safe
and
keeping
them
alive.
O
And
there's
also
a
huge
difference
between
people
who
support,
assisted
suicide
and
oppose
it
as
the
voting
results
from
ballot
question.
2
in
2012
show
assisted
suicide,
its
wealthier
whiter
areas
against
those
with
more
working
class
and
people
of
color.
In
a
national
survey,
black
people
and
Latinas
oppose
assisted
suicide
by
two-to-one
margins,
for
example
the
for
most
Latino
cities
in
the
Commonwealth
Lawrence
Chelsea,
Holyoke
and
Springfield.
O
O
The
group
of
people
who
will
be
threatened
first
with
these
bills
are
people
experiencing
depression.
The
bill
doesn't
care
whether
you
were
severely
depressed
as
long
as
in
the
opinion
of
a
psychologist,
the
depression
does
not
cause
quote-unquote
impaired
judgment,
as
Ruthie
Poole
of
the
state
group
empower
testified
at
the
last
session
empowers
an
advocacy
group
for
people
with
lived
experience
of
mental
health
diagnosis,
trauma
and
addiction.
O
Ruthie
testified
that
quote
those
of
us
and
empower
know
that
depression
is
insidious
and
how
it
affects
thinking
against
the
new
provision
of
requiring
everyone
to
get
a
psych
consult.
We
know
that
depression
does
impair
judgment
as
a
therapist
once
told
me,
depression
does
not
cause
black
and
white
thinking.
It
causes
black
and
blacker,
thinking
absolute
hopelessness
and
seeing
no
way
out
our
common
feelings
for
those
of
us
would
experience
severe
depression
personally,
as
someone
who
has
been
suicidal
in
the
past,
I
can
relate
to
the
desire
for
quote
a
painless
and
easy
way
out.
O
Unquote.
However,
depression
is
treatable
and
reversible.
Suicide
is
not
these
pills
specifically
targets
disabled
people,
because
better
dead
and
disabled
is
a
belief.
That's
all
too
often
acted
on
when
you
look
at
the
reasons
reported
out
in
Oregon
for
people's
end-of-life
concerns.
It's
all
about.
Disability
first
is
the
stress
about
dependence
on
other
people
losing
autonomy.
They
call
that
that's
over
90%,
second,
is
to
stress
over
lost
abilities.
That's
about
90
percent,
followed
by
feelings
of
shame
and
loss
of
social
status.
O
That's
called
loss
of
dignity,
as
not
dead,
yet
says
we
don't
need
to
die
to
have
dignity
and
then
there's
distress
about
needing
help
with
incontinence.
That's
labeled
quote
losing
control
of
bodily
functions.
Close
quote.
These
reasons
suggest
the
meaning
of
dignity.
That
depends
not
on
everyone's
inherent
worth,
but
on
an
ability
based
meritocracy.
O
O
B
O
The
bills
would
set
up
a
two-tier
system
under
which
some
people
would
get
suicide-prevention.
All
others
would
get
suicide
assistance.
The
difference
between
the
two
groups
would
be
based
on
value
judgments
about
so-called
quality
of
life.
Many
of
us
already
get
told
straight
to
our
face
and
through
medical
hostility
that
we
might
be
better
off
that
legalized,
assisted
suicide
makes
that
prejudice
official
policy
groups
that
in
Massachusetts
that
has
stood
with
us
against
the
bill,
includes
a
Boston
disability,
Commission,
Cambridge,
disability,
Commission,
disability
policy
consortium
empower
and
at
various
times,
Independent
Living,
Centers
and
nationally.
O
Every
major
disability
rights
group
that
has
taken
the
position
has
come
out
in
opposition
to
assisted
suicide.
So
what
we
want
is
to
make
sure
that
people
have
the
choice
and
supports
to
live
pain
and
burden
free
at
home,
which
is
why
adapt
is
a
leading
leading
the
way
to
ask
the
disability
integration
act,
so
people
would
not
have
to
choose
between
going
to
a
nursing
arm
or
perhaps
taking
assisted
suicide.
O
O
O
They're
in
the
Joint
Committee
on
Public
Health,
which
has
been
reconfigured
for
this
session
and
unfortunately
of
the
17
members
on
the
committee.
Nine
are
sponsors,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
turn
a
couple
of
sponsors
to
opponents,
but
you
know
I
think.
The
very
best
argument
is
the
misdiagnosis
argument,
just
like
the
reason
that
many
people
oppose
capital
punishment
is
that
four
percent
of
people
at
least
are
not
innocent
and
would
be
executed
with
assisted
suicide.
O
Called
in
June
and
my
hope
that
means
that
it'll
be
late
June
because
we
haven't
heard,
but
up
at
the
Statehouse
they
can
do.
They
can
do
anything
they
want.
They
could
give
24
hours
notice
if
they
want,
but
usually
it's
a
little
bit
longer
lead
time
than
that.
Can
you
update
us
in
the
two
sessions
we
had
a
legislative
briefing
at
the
Statehouse,
where
I
and
other
disability
rights
advocates,
presented
and
answered
questions
from.
B
B
I
John
this
is
Ari.
Sorry,
how
are
you
so
I
guess?
My
question
is
that
if
this
bill
I'm
sorry
sorry
I'm
having
trouble
hearing
you?
Okay,
this
is
better.
Yes,
okay!
So
if
what
you're
proposing
passes,
then,
basically,
what
it
says
is
that
in
Massachusetts,
assisted
suicide
would
be
illegal.
Is
that
correct
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand.
O
Well,
if
it
asses
and
the
governor
signs
it,
yes,
it
would
become
law
Maine.
The
Maine
House
of
Representatives
just
asked
their
so-called
Death,
with
Dignity
Act
and
at
the
Senate
approves
it
and
the
governor
signs
it.
Then
it
would
become
law.
So
it's
like
the
Massachusetts
bill,
there's
two
other
possibilities
for
it
becoming
legal.
There's
a
lawsuit
by
dr.
B
O
B
And
moving
on
in
the
agenda
is
the
chairs
report
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'll
keep
my
report
very.
Very
brief.
I
just
want
to
thank
those
of
us
and
members
of
the
public
who
are
here
who
were
able
to
attend
the
City
Council
hearing
earlier
today,
sponsored
by
councillors,
Flynn
Edwards
and
flair
'ti,
and
basically
the
hearing
was
just
to
hear
from
the
disability
community
about
what
are
our
issues
facing
the
disability
community
and
we
had
several
people
we
had.
Several
people
testify
the
Commissioner
you
know
spoke
and
answered
questions.
B
You
know
as
an
as
an
expert
and
as
an
advocate,
so
I
just
really
want
to
appreciate
and
want
to
thank
everybody's
participation
in
that
meeting
and
hope,
with
signals
of
an
ongoing
dialogue
between
the
council
and
and
our
community.
So
I
want
to
thank
thank
everybody
for
that,
and
also
what
I
want
to
emphasize
or
discuss.
Just
very
briefly
is
I
love.
B
Talk
to
us
and
that
and
and
if
different
members
of
the
board
take
it
upon
themselves
to
try
to
arrange
somebody
that
that
can
make
it
difficult
for
the
agenda.
So
I
again,
I
really
appreciate
all
of
our
wanting
to
to
make
these
meetings
as
useful
as
possible.
I
still
want
to
encourage
us
to
do
so,
but
if
you
could
just
funnel
those
requests
through
me
and
and
and
I'll
work
with
the
Commissioner's
Office
to
get
those
folks
on
the
agenda
as
quickly
as
possible.
J
Jerry,
my
report
is
also
very
brief
this
month
to
follow
up
on
Jerry's
comments
about
the
hearing.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
also
who
was
able
to
attend,
and
for
those
of
you
who
weren't
I,
understand
everybody's
busy,
but
you
should
know
that
your
concerns
were
most
likely
very
well
represented
at
the
end
of
the
hearing,
which
went
for
two
hours
over
two
hours.
J
I
just
had
made
notes
and
I
gave
a
brief
summary
of
the
issues
that
came
up
and
it
was
a
broad
spectrum
of
disability
issues
as
broad
as
I
could
have
hoped,
for
it
was
everything
from
parking
to
emergency
management,
to
historical
building,
access,
mental
health,
communication
access
language,
ASL
service
animals,
curb
cuts,
MBTA,
housing,
employment.
It
was
really
a
be
bill.
J
It
was
really
everything
that
we
talked
about
every
month,
so
it
was
a
great
hearing
and,
as
Jerry
said,
it
will
only
be
the
beginning,
and
I
would
also
emphasize
that
we,
like
Jerry,
said
we
appreciate
your
feedback.
We
want
your
feedback
and
input
continue
to
let
Jerry
and
the
executive
committee
know
what
topics
you
want
to
learn
about
and
also
we
should
talk
about
getting
the
subcommittees
going,
so
we
can
get
some
work
done
outside
of
the
meetings,
because
we
only
have
two
hours
and
these
meetings
go
by
very
quickly.
J
So
keep
that
in
mind
also
the
one
thing
I
want
to
follow
up
on
John
Kelly's,
a
presentation
before
the
meeting
we
had
discussed
a
little
bit
how
this
board
had
written
a
letter
of
support
in
2012,
2015
and
2017
when
the
bill
was
up
for
vote
and
he
had
asked
if
the
would
consider
writing
another
letter
of
support.
So
I
wanted
to
put
that
out
to
the
chair.
If
you
want
to
call
for
a
vote,
if
you
don't
that's
your
decision.
J
Secondly,
I
wanted
to
just
touch
on
one
event
that
I
went
to
last
two
weeks
ago
was
an
event
in
New
York
City
I
was
there
for
four
days.
It
was
a
conference
where
all
the
disability,
commissioners
from
across
the
country
got
to
meet
up.
There
were
I
think
that
we
do
a
monthly
call
and
I
think
there
are
about
30
of
us
on
the
call,
but
in
New
York
City
there
were
12
cities
that
attended.
It
was
New
York,
LA,
San,
Francisco,
Cambridge,
Rachel,
Tana
House
came
and
Houston
Baltimore
Philadelphia.
J
It
was
a
great
mix
of
commissioners
and
it's
interesting
because
we
all
work
on
the
same
things:
everything
from
bike
lanes
to
communication,
access
to
snow
removal,
the
cities
in
the
Northeast
to
ooh,
BRR
and
left
and
public
transit.
So
we
really
got
to
connect-
and
we
talked
also
about
doing
some
collaborations-
to
have
a
unified
voice
on
the
national
level
as
far
as
policy
is
concerned,
so
that
maybe
we
as
a
group
can
write
a
letter
in
support
of
you
know
major
federal
issues.
So
those
are
our
next
steps
for
the
group.
J
We
specifically
focused
on
economic
empowerment
and
that's
everything
from
financial
workshops,
people
with
disabilities
to
insurance,
training
on
how
you
can
maintain
insurance
and
go
to
work.
Things
like
that,
so
the
city
of
Boston
does
have
financial
empowerment,
office
and
I
can
get
information
out
about
that
and
possibly
even
have
them
come
to
present.
So
it
was
a
great
experience
and
I
learned
a
lot
and
I
have
a
lot
to
share
in
the
coming
meetings
other
than
that
I
just
wanted
to
announce
dates
of
upcoming
events.
J
Our
community
forum
is
gonna,
be
on
Friday
June
28th
from
2:00
to
4:00
at
Suffolk
law
school.
Our
EDA
day
is
Tuesday
July
23rd
on
City
Hall
plaza
it's
from
12:00
to
2:00
Martin's
Park
opening
is
June,
15th
I'm
glad
you
Marsha
correct
on
the
date,
because
I
don't
want
to
give
the
wrong
date
and
I
believe
that's
at
10:00
a.m.
and
it's
it's
located
just
behind
the
Children's
Museum
on
the
waterfront.
So
it's
a
great
location,
and
that
is
it.
Okay,.
A
A
A
We
also
had
staff
from
the
city
agencies
related
to
first
response,
and
they
were
able
to
respond
questions
from
the
community
and
we
had
great
feedback
from
that
day,
so
we're
planning
of
planning
another
one
for
next
year.
If
that's,
okay,
with
commissioner
Oh,
going
back
to
the
fair
housing
training,
I
would
like
to
bring
that
training
here
to
the
city
for
next
year
as
well.
The
fair
housing
regulations.
A
H
A
Carl,
thank
you
for
your
question.
Yes,
every
two
weeks
I
attend
the
architectural
access
board
meetings
and
update.
That
I
have
is
that
representatives
from
the
AAB
Walter
White,
no
Walter
I,
can't
think
of
his
last
name.
Sorry,
Walter
and
Don,
where
yellow
are
in
the
committee
for
selecting
the
new
executive
director
and
they
met
and
they
looked
at
resumes,
so
that
is
in
progress.
B
Great,
so
under
new
business,
what
the
Commissioner
brought
up
the
fact
that
this
advisory
board
has
in
the
past,
when
there
has
been
been
a
bill
for
you,
know
for
assisted
suicide
up
at
the
State
State
House
that
that
this
board
has
drafted
a
letter
in
opposition
of
that.
That's
something
that
that
I
can
move,
that
this
board
take
up.
Carl
I
make.
H
J
C
H
J
B
H
J
Were
two
on
the
Boston
Public
Health
Commission
I
believe
one
was
oh,
one
was
on
Long
Island
yeah.
If
you
want
to
support
a
letter
to
express
support
for
reopening
the
bridge,
there's
some
contention
right
now.
The
city
of
Quincy
does
not
want
the
city
to
rebuild
a
bridge,
and
the
mayor
is
feels
really
strongly
about
reconstructing
the
bridge
so
that
we
have
access
to
the
island.
So.
B
J
B
J
Health
is
a
big
part
of
Long
Island
I,
don't
know
if
there'll
be
a
specific
mental
health
center,
but
it's
a
big
part
of
the
substance,
abuse
issues
so
I'm
and
there
is
more
information
available
on
the
Long
Island
project.
If
the
board
would
like
I
can
send
that
out
before
you
vote.
Would
that
be
helpful,
I
think.
B
B
Q
Hello
again,
everybody
it's
David
Vieira
from
Hyde
Park
I
have
a
couple
of
things:
I
need
to
catch
up
on.
First
I've
missed
a
couple
of
meetings.
I
know
in
the
past,
we've
had
discussions
about
bikes
in
the
city
and
I
know
that
Commissioner
macaws
had
spoken
to
captain
Andres
on
did
I
catch
up
on
the
fact
that
miss
captain
Andres
from
BPD
is
no
longer
handling
bikes.
Commissioner,
did
you
know
that
yes,.
J
Q
Q
Asked
councillor
Kelly!
No
excuse
me
counsel,
if,
when
to
do
that,
okay
he's
going
to
be
talking
to
the
police
commissioner
and
we're
going
to
talk
next
Friday
and
I've
also
asked
the
councillor
to
look
into
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
our
crosswalks
are
still
in
disrepair
and
when
I
spoke
to
Public
Works
last
year
about
a
couple
of
crosswalks
that
were
washed
out.
They
told
me
that
the
schedule
is
they
go
by
neighborhoods,
which
does
not
address
fact
of
crosswalks
that
need
to
be
repainted
now,
not
five
neighborhoods
from
now.
Q
Q
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
specific
line
that
you
can
call
when
there's
an
absolutely
need,
especially
in
the
downtown
area.
That's
heavily
trafficked
with
pedestrians
that
really
need
to
be
restriped
and
a
comment
on
the
motion
you
just
passed
regarding
the
letter
concerning
the
assisted
suicide
issue.
B
J
Reminded
me
of
one
other
announcement,
I
wanted
to
make.
The
city
is
looking
for
feedback
from
people
with
disabilities.
If
you
have
any
on
the
uber
lift
drop-off
pilot
space
on
Boylston
Street,
there
are
two
drop-off
areas:
if
anyone
has
used
them,
if
anybody
has
feedback,
you
can
send
it
to
me
and
I
can
pass
it
along
call.
It
is
a
pilot
study
how.