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Boston Human Rights Commission Public Meeting 3.16.23 Part 1
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A
In
accordance
in
accordance
with
Massachusetts
law,
we
are
conducting
the
meeting
online,
the
public
will
have
a
chance
to
speak
during
the
public
comment
sections.
This
meeting
is
being
recorded
before
we
start
welcome
everybody.
My
name
is
Reyes
called.
Let's
start,
while
we
wait
for
others,
members
to
arrive
with
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
I
would
need
a
motion
to
approve.
B
I
have
a
motion
to
amend,
Susie
I
didn't
see
where
I
I
had
asked
about
us
meeting
in
person.
Oh.
A
Commissioner,
no
I
was
referring
to
the
agenda.
A
Yes,
we'll
do
first
the
agenda
and
then
the
minutes
so
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda.
C
A
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
okay
approved,
and
now
we
move
to
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
let's
meeting
commissioner
Russo,
please
you
have
the
floor.
B
Yes,
I
would
just
like
to
amend
and
put
in
that
I
I
asked
when
we
were
going
to
meet
in
person
and
according
to
my
notes,
Susie,
you
said
you
were
going
to
check
with
legal
and
get
back
to
us.
So
I
just
wanted
to
have
that
in
the
minutes.
I.
A
Okay,
and
actually
we
we
would
have
that
we
will
be
discussing
that
today
too.
Any
other
amends
motion
to
approve
with
the
amend.
A
Great
minutes
are
approved
with
the
amendment.
D
The
Human
Rights
Commission
I'm
just
gonna,
preface
this
by
saying
that
my
voice
is
not
being
kind
to
me
because
the
weather's
not
being
kind
to
me
so
yeah
I'm
Gonna
Save
my
voice
as
much.
D
I
am
also
really
excited
and
want
to
leave
enough
room
for
the
discussions
that
we
have
today,
but
I
will
start
by
saying
something
that
I
mentioned
in
the
previous
and
my
camera's.
Acting
up
today's.
D
Turn
it
off
when
I'm
done
so
you
don't
see
me
jumping
around
in
my
previous
in
the
previous
Commission
meeting.
I
had
spoken
about
working
in
collaboration
with
the
arts
department,
on
putting
a
call
out
to
artists
on
what
this
human
rights
mean
to
you.
D
This
will
be
kicking
off
in
the
next
couple
weeks,
so
I'm
really
excited
for
that,
and
I
want
to
share
the
flyer
with
you
all.
We
have
decided
to
not
make
it
a
digital
campaign,
but
an
in-person
art
collection
campaign,
I'm,
not
campaign
like
paintings.
It's
not
going
to
be
digital,
it's
going
to
be
showcased,
actual
art,
physical
art,
but
it
will
be
kicking
off
in
the
next
few
weeks
and
I'm
going
to
share
the
flyer
and
everything
else
that
I
can
with
you
all
again.
It's
going
to
be
around.
D
Our
first
newsletter
went
out
last
week,
I
believe
it
was
last
week.
Our
first
newsletter
went
out.
I
do
want
to
encourage
everyone
if
you
haven't
done
so
already.
So
please
sign
up
for
our
newsletter
where
you
can
receive
updates
about
our
office.
You
can
find
the
sign
up
on
the
website
and
I'll
put
that
in
the
chat
when
I'm
done
with
this.
D
We
have
over
200
followers
on
Instagram
and
over
100
followers
on
Twitter.
So
please
sign
up
and
follow
us.
If
you
haven't
and
share
share
our
social
networks,
we
have
been
promoting
our.
D
There
and
also
our
resource
guide
and
our
response
to
hate
toolkit
on
there.
While
we
still
wait
to
get
those
translated
in
other
languages
other
than
English,
as
always
I'm
just
running
through
them.
Just
shout
out,
if
you
guys
have
any
questions
in
regards
to
staff,
trainings
I'm
I'm,
looking
into
doing
staff
trainings
again,
the
I
have
found
one
training
offered
through
the
Massachusetts
commission
against
discrimination
in
regards
to
bystander
intervention
training.
D
But
I
am
going
to
ask
if
you
any
of
you
have
recommendations
on
trainings
that
you
think
I
or
the
staff
should
take.
Please
send
them
along
to
me.
D
I'm
going
to
end
my
report
with
saying:
I
am,
in
preliminary
preliminary
discussions,
I'm
working
on
a
partnership
on
a
project
with
the
mayor's
office
for
women's
advancement.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
we're
going
to
partner
with
a
I
forgot,
the
name
of
it.
So
please
excuse
me,
but
it's
a
supplier
organization
on
putting
together
personal
hygiene
and
like
hand,
sanitizer
kind
of
tool
kits
that
we're
gonna
we're
picking
one
shelter
a
month
to
drop
these
supplies
off
to
we're
going
to
start
off
with
Rosie's
Place.
D
D
D
That
is
all
I
had
in
terms
of
my
report.
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
questions.
F
A
quick
one,
what
type,
what
sort
of
training
topics
are?
Are
you
looking
for
specifically
if
any.
D
D
So
anything
that
will
further
our
work
or
yeah.
That's
the
best
way
to
describe
it.
I,
don't
know
if
that
answered
the
question.
Yeah.
A
Very
briefly,
I
will
try
to
make
an
introduction
to
the
next
part
of
our
meeting.
If
you've
been
reading
the
Boston
Globe.
You
know
that
in
the
past
week
there
have
been
several
articles
by
different
journalists,
commenting
on
the
head,
the
the
race
and
hate
in
Boston
in
the
past
few
years
and
in
the
past
few
months
this
is
not
new.
A
The
Boston
Globe
has
informed
people
about
hate
in
Boston,
but
it
is
new
is
that
the
Boston
Globe
has
picked
up
the
signals
that
we
have
picked
up
and
that
other
people
in
other
groups
have
picked
up
regarding
the
Spike.
A
A
We
also
have
from
last
December
our
own
preliminary
research
that
our
interns
carried
out,
and
that
also
pointed
out
as
a
problem
with
Hatebreed
rising
in
Boston
we've
had
the
council
president
city
council,
president
Flynn
several
times
asking
us
to
intervene
and
in
fact,
every
time
that
the
Boston
Globe
wrote
about
hating
Boston.
They
mentioned
council
president
Flynn
and
every
time
council
president
Flynn
mention
the
human
rights
commissions
as
the
site.
That
should
be
for
one
side
that
should
be
involved
in
the
study
of
Hayden
Austin.
A
All
everyone
agrees
that
there
is
a
need
to
act
on
this
early
warnings.
A
A
The
fact
that
reporting
of
hate
events
is
non-mandatory
in
Massachusetts
and
therefore
in
Boston
and
number
three
that
it
seems
to
Massachusetts
and
therefore
Boston
seems
to
be
applying
a
single
law
enforcement
Angle,
an
angle
that
is
reactive,
that
is
this
is
a
hate
event.
There's
a
hate
crime
and
law
enforcement
reacts
to
it.
A
There
is
no
other
angle,
so
that
is
what
I
would
want
to
leave
the
my
introduction
and
then
I
will
open
up
for
you
Commissioners
to
discuss
what
you
think
and
what
you
think
the
role
could
be,
and
if
there
are
any
steps
that
you
think
should
be
taken.
G
I
have
a
question
just
what
the
possibilities
potentially
of
the
next
steps
would
be.
You
know
if
there
is
some
just
general
thoughts
on
what
are
the
different
directions:
yeah,
we
can
move
in
and
that
way
we
have
some
potential
options
to
discuss,
I'm,
not
sure
if
anyone's.
A
Given
this
okay,
if
I
can,
let
me
share
I
would
like
to
share
the.
A
Okay,
so
these
are
the
recommendations
that
we
got
from
the
team
from
UMass
Boston.
The
recommendations
are
number
three
and
number
four
to
establish
a
partnership
so
that
different
agencies,
we're
talking
non-uh
law
enforcement,
shared
tools
and
data
and
the
data
could
come
from
c-web
and
to
work
towards
the
need
for
mandatory
reporting
of
hate
crimes
in
Massachusetts.
A
So
those
are
very
concrete
recommendations
that
were
put
in
front
of
us.
B
So
I
think
one
of
the
the
strong
recommendations
and
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
is
really
developing.
Partnership
with
Community
organizations
and
I
think
that
that
would
be
very
helpful
for
us
and
I
think
that
some
of
that
work,
Commissioners
could
do
I
know
Brian
Cole,
who
is
at
in
Cambridge
if
we
could
start
really
getting
those
connections
not
only
with
boston-based
Community
organizations
but
area
from
cities
and
towns
around
us
that
have
a
Human,
Rights,
Commission
and
I.
B
Think
that
would
make
us
stronger
and-
and
we
could
engage
with
them,
see
what
they've
done
and
I
think
that
you
know
with
with
anything
there's
this
power
in
numbers
and
if
something
happens,
if
we
have
an
umbrella,
you
know
we
have
all
these
organizations
together.
That
could
put
out
statements.
It
would
be
more
powerful.
G
And
I'll
just
I'll.
Just
add
to
that,
because
my
point
was
going
to
be
similar,
which
is
doing
some
sort
of
mapping
out
you
know,
of
who
these
Partners
could
potentially
be
like.
Who
are
all
the
potential
Partners
out
there
and
yeah?
Creating
some
sort
of
some
sort
of
you
know
spreadsheet
Or
List,
where
we
could
have
a
better
sense
of
like
who
exists
out
there
that
maybe
is
already
doing
some
collecting
of
data
or
who
would
be
interested
in
doing
some
of
that
and
then
I
think.
G
Once
we
get
a
lay
of
the
land
a
little
bit
deciding
you
know
what
that
could
potentially
look
like
I
think
it's
kind
of
hard
to
imagine
it
right
now
without
knowing
who
they
are
and
what's
out
there
already,
that
maybe
doesn't
need
to
necessarily
be
replicated
but
need
to
just
like.
We
need
to
connect
the
dots
or
have
the
conversations
about
it.
So
yeah
just
piggyback
on
what
was
said.
C
C
One
of
the
questions
that
I
have
is
to
what
end
like
what
would
be
the
impact?
What
are
we
trying
to
do
with
the
data
to
then
address
the
issues
of
hate
crimes
like
what
can
we
do
with
it?
A
Made
it
clear
once
again
that
there
is
no
data,
so
there
is
no
collecting
of
data
the
in
terms
of
data.
What
could
be
done,
as
the
group
suggested
last
month,
is
to
work
with
the
legislature,
because
there
is
a
bill
to
make
hate
reporting
of
hate
crimes
and
even
mandatory
in
Massachusetts,
so
that
could
lead
to
better
data,
but
that
would
be
law
enforcement
data,
okay,
but
there
will
be
some
data
right
now
we
don't
have
it.
A
A
G
G
I
just
wanted
to
also
because
I
think
it
was
a
really
good
question.
You
know
I
think
yeah
I
think,
because
I
think
it
could
look
potentially
real
different
to
say
we're
collecting.
We
want
to
collect
this
data
with
the
ultimate
goal
of
putting
more
more
crime
laws
on
the
books
right.
That's
like
that's,
potentially
one
you
know
versus
saying
the
idea
is
to
identify
where,
for
example,
where
these
hate
crimes
are
happening
against
whom
who
needs
to
support
what
other
services
they
need?
G
What's
the
public
education
that's
needed
around,
you
know
things
like
that,
and
so
I
think
it's.
You
know
a
a
really
valid
question,
especially
if
we're
going
to
be
approaching.
Other
groups
is
having
that
Clarity
of
saying
the
reason
why
we're
looking
to
form
Partnerships
is
for
XYZ
reasons,
I
think
it's
a
really
yeah,
really
good
question.
B
Would
be
all
of
the
above
I
mean
we'd
want
to
collect
the
data
for
All,
the
Above
and
and
I
think
public
awareness
is
is
also.
You
know,
one
of
the
strong
reasons
why
you
collect
data
to
to
to
let
the
public
be
aware
of
this,
so
that
they
also
know
that
and
then
you
know
we
had
talked
before
about
having
you
know,
Outreach
meetings,
and
if
we
have
the
facts
before
us,
when
we're
doing
these
Outreach
meetings
with
various
groups
in
neighborhoods,
you
know
we
can
show
people.
Yes,
there
is
a
problem.
C
F
F
It
seems
like
we
definitely
have
well.
I,
certainly
have
a
lot
to
learn
in
general,
and
it
feels
like
the
best
way
to
go
about
doing.
That
is
to
rely
on
the
people
who
are
already
doing
the
work
right.
F
I'll,
try
to
reinvent
the
wheel
on
the
mandated
reporting,
I
I,
wonder
what
the
implications
are
for
our
relationship
with
police,
because
it
seems
like
that's
probably
the
the
best
way
the
data
is
going
to
be
collected
and
to
what
extent
yeah
there's
that
kind
of
reinforce
our
interest
in
trying
to
work
with
some
of
those
organizations
like
opad.
F
Even
more
I
guess
is
a
question.
I
just
have.
G
I'm
I'm
I
must
wonder
if
part
of
the
talking
and
having
this
list
of
like
Partners
to
reach
out
to
is
also
like
an
opportunity
to
listen
to
what
the
needs
of
data
could
be
rather
than
necessarily
deciding
ourselves,
because
it
could
very
well
be
that
those
impact
communities
say
what
we
really
need
is
this.
You
know
you
know
we
might
be
sitting
here
saying
you
know
what
we
need
to
do
is
strengthen.
G
You
know
the
laws
on
the
books,
and
maybe
they
turn
around
and
say
you
know
we
have
enough
and
they
aren't
doing
anything
to
prevent
this
from
happening.
When
aren't.
E
G
Having
some
sort
of
listening
sessions
could
potentially
be
part
of,
you
know
the
conversations.
A
So
I
do
hear
a
consensus
on
on
Partnerships.
Also
there
is,
there
is
an
interest
in
proposition
I,
think
from
commissioner
Paredes
that
we
established
a
list
for
Excel
list
of
potential
Partners
in
this
situation,
but
then
I
also
hear
from
commissioner
Russo
on
establishing
partnership
initially
or
in
one
area
with
human
rights
commissions,
with
other
human
rights
commissions
local
in
the
area.
A
I
think
we
can,
depending
on
on
what
you
think
we
can
take
both
ideas.
We
can
start
with
human
rights
commissions
and
build
between
us
Among
Us,
a
list
of
potential
partners
and
maybe
then
call
a
meeting
or
two
meetings
with
this
with
these
partners
and
see
who
is
interested
in
what.
D
Question
just
because
I'm
taking
notes
too,
with
the
Partnerships,
what
are
the
intents
of
the
partnership?
Is
this
just
the
data
sharing
partnership
or,
if
we're
reaching
out
to
local
organizations?
What
are
we
partnering
on
as
a
training
sessions?
Is
it
Outreach
yeah
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
intent
of
the
Partnerships,
and
does
that
happen
before
or
after
the
listening
sessions
that
were
talked
about.
A
Oh
I
would
say
that
the
intention
would
be
to
intervene
in
the
spike
of
hate
in
Boston
to
have
a
presence
and
to
occupy
a
space
that
nobody
occupies
right
now,
so
partnership
would
be
to
call
people
to
the
table
not
to
gather
data
not
to
share
data,
but
to
start
talking
about
what
is
needed.
I
I
think
commissioned
parties,
and
commissioner
Valentine
both
made
it
clear
that
when
talking
about
data,
there
are
several
issues
that
need
to
be
taken
care
of
before.
A
Even
before
so
I
wouldn't
say
that
obtaining
data
or
gathering
data
is
necessarily
the
most
important
part
of
establishing
partnership.
G
I
have
a
question
I'm,
trying
to
recall
from
the
reports
that
were
given
in
the
last
couple
of
meetings.
G
If
you
know
I
know
this
has
come
up
in
other.
You
know
cities,
it's
an
issue.
You
know
pretty
much
in
a
lot
of
places
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
data
available.
You
know,
but
I
guess
some
cities
maybe
have
I'm
trying
to
recall
whether
some
cities
have
one
started
to
mandate.
It
and
other
question
is
to
have
any
of
those.
Are
there
models
in
other
cities
of
Partnerships?
You
know
outside
of
just
law
enforcement.
Collecting
data.
G
Have
there
been
other
models
of
yeah,
just
broader
coalitions
groups
Partnerships
working
to
to
do
some
of
this
yeah.
A
I
think
that
the
presentation
of
the
interns,
one
particular
case-
was
the
LA
County
and
they
I.
Remember
the
the
presentation
included
a
wide
net
of
partnership,
yeah.
B
No,
that
that's
okay,
I
I,
also
think
when
we're
looking
to
build
these
relationships,
who
I
think
we
can
learn
from
other
groups
that
have
done
the
work,
but
I
also
think
it
would
be
part
of
a
rapid
response
so
that,
if,
if
something
did
happen
that
we
could
come
out
together,
leave
it
separately
or
together
in
force
and
respond
to
that
I
mean
you
know
it.
B
You
know,
we've
had
incidents
of
of
hate
and
I.
Think
it's
very
powerful
I
was
you
know
at
when
the
when
it
happened
in
Jamaica
Plain.
It
was
very
powerful
for
people
to
show
up
and
be
there
and
when
you
know
the
the
police
were
pushing
the
people
that
came
out
against
the
hate.
I
could
say:
no,
we
have
to
be
here.
You
know,
I'm
a
human
rights
commissioner
and
I.
Could
I?
Could
film
it
and
and
and
be
a
presence
and
I?
B
A
G
If
there's
research
out
there
on
what's
helped
the
most
in
reducing
hate
crimes,
you
know
I,
yeah,
I,
think
you
know
we
could
throw
out
like
a
whole
kitchen
sink
of
ideas,
but
I'm
really
wondering
if
there's
been
research
on
what
what
sort
of
practices
or
Services
have
been
the
most
useful
in
saying.
Okay,
this
you
know,
there's
been
this.
This
sort
of
hate
crime
rise
against
a
certain
community
in
a
certain
place
and
yeah,
what's
What's
led
to
the
decrease
of
it
and
I
think
it
goes
back
to
the
point
of
like.
E
A
G
You
know
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
as
data
collection,
it
seems
like
at
least
one
of
those
components,
even
if
it's
not
like
the
the
priority
right
now
and
I
know,
a
lot
of
the
research
that
was
covered
and
shared
in
the
last
couple
of
meetings
was
about
how
there
is
a
lack
of
data
or
lack
of
uniformity
with
data
and
how
that
is
happening
here
locally,
but
in
other
places
as
well
and
then
some
cities
are,
you
know,
stepping
up
to
get
creative
about
that,
but
you
know
I
think
ultimately,
I
guess
the
ultimate
goal
of
why
we're
doing
this,
because
we
want
to
see
a
reduction
in
hate
crime
right
like
that's.
G
Why
we
want
data,
we
want
there
to
be
less
hate
crimes
and
so
and
let's
say,
incidents
and
so
wondering
what
what
practices
have
led
to
less
hate
crimes
and
less
hate
incidents,
because
shouldn't
that
be
where
we're
paying
a
little
bit
more
attention
to
you
know
if
it's
been
that,
for
example,
public
education
campaigns
have
been
very
effective
or
the
most
effective
in
reducing
hate
crimes,
then
you
know
we
would
probably
want
to
examine
what
we
can
do
around
with
part
in
partnership
with
the
you
know,
folks
we're
going
to
be
talking
to
like
how
do
we
lift
up
a
public
education
campaign?
G
You
know
across
the
city
versus
you
know,
I,
don't
know
I
I,
don't
have
the
solutions
or
the
ideas
you
know
right
now,
but
but
yeah
I
think
ultimately
I.
Guess
we
we're
trying
to
reduce
hate
crimes,
I'm
just
wondering
what
is
out
there.
Maybe
the
this.
You
know
the
the
students
who
did
some
of
the
research
have
already
come
across
some
research
that
points
to
okay.
This
is
what's
helped,
you
know
in
reducing
hate
crimes,
or
maybe
it's
not
out
there
I'm
not
sure.
Well,.
A
What
is
happening
is
that
there
is
an
increase
of
hate
crime,
not
a
decrease,
so
best
practices
are
crashing
right
now.
At
this
point,
the
point
for
me
in
this
is
just
individually
is
whether
this
commission
is
going
to
do
something
and
start
sending
partnership,
or
we
are
going
to
continue
doing
research
and
talking.
A
B
Guess
that's
where
my
frustration
trying
to
be
patient,
but
my
frustration
is
that
we've
been
talking
since
it
was
since
the
re-incarnation
of
this
commission.
We've
talked
about
these
issues.
We've
we've
had
many
presentations
and
we
haven't
yet
done
anything
publicly
and
and
I
feel
like
we.
We
should
be
doing
something
and
at
least
by
reaching
out
to
other
organizations
starting.
You
know,
starting
to
talk
to
other
people
responding
more
rapidly
when
something
happens.
At
least
when
councilor
Flynn
isn't
saying
something
in
the
papers.
F
It
yeah
I
definitely
see
the
value
of
like
what
commissioner
Perez
was
saying
about
looking
into
best
practices.
What
I
hear
is,
how
do
we
best
invest
our
time
or
how
do
we?
How
do
we
create
some
sort
of
strategy
even
behind
the
kinds
of
Partnerships
that
we
want
to
establish?
F
If
we,
if
we
don't,
have
a
good,
a
good
sense
of
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work
and
I
definitely
hear
the
argument
that
what's
happening
right
now,
isn't
working
and
so
in
some
way
you
kind
of
have
to
experiment
or
I
mean
it
kind
of
reinvent.
Whatever
the
the
right
approach
is
I
guess
I'm
like
trying
to
figure
out.
Is
there
a
way
to
find
a
happy
medium?
Maybe
we
do
spend
some
time
looking
into
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work.
F
But
then
you
know
we
don't
waste
too
much
time
to
reach
out
to
Partners
that
maybe
are
already
having
an
impact
or
we
could
learn
from
I.
Don't
know,
maybe
there's
a
way
to
do
a
little
bit
of
both
but
I'm.
A
big
fan
of
strategic
planning
I
think
it's
important
to
kind
of
have
a
a
consensus
and
kind
of
like
everyone's
bought
into
the
direction
that
we're
moving
in
so
just
want
to
chime.
In
with
that.
C
Commissioner
Evans,
you
pretty
much
said
what
I
was
going
to
say
that
I
actually
see
the
value
of
what
commissioner
Paredes
was
suggesting
in
terms
of
while.
C
Yes,
there
is
an
increase,
I
think
it's
important
to
to
know
what
I
mean,
because
they
might
have
been
strategies
in
different
communities
that
have
actually
worked
right
and
so
I
think
there
is
value
in
in
doing
some
of
that
research
to
see
what
has
worked
in,
maybe
different
communities,
different
approaches
and
agree
that
there
should
probably
be
a
multi-pronged
strategy
to
this,
where
some
of
us
might
be
looking
into
the
research
of
of
like
of
of
some
pre
of
strategies.
Some
of
us
might
be
working
on
the
document
with
the
Partnerships.
C
Some
of
us
might
be
I,
don't
know
like
keeping
an
air
for
for
maybe
working.
You
know
on
on
some
of
the
campaigns,
so
I
think
I.
Think
a
multi-pronged
approach
is
definitely
something
that
would
be
helpful.
I
understand
trying
to
figure
out
like
what
do
we
have
the
capacity
for.
A
Yes,
I
I
I
agree
on
the
multi-prong
approach.
I
think
we
are
doing
a
lot
of
that,
but
not
in
not
us
the
commission.
The
office
is
doing
a
lot
of
that.
We
are
not
as
Commissioners
doing
it.
A
I
see
the
value
of
Partnerships,
because
those
Partnerships
would
serve
to
share
information,
so
we
might
learn
best
practices
by
learning
from
the
Cambridge
Human,
Rights
Commission,
or
the
lean
human
rights
commissions
or
the
average
Human
Rights
Commission,
so
I
see
also
an
economy
of
scale
there.
We,
the
six
of
us,
don't
have
to
do
all
these
and
our
interns
cannot
do
it.
We
can
learn
from
other
partners,
especially
if
those
partners
are
also
in
the
human
rights
Circle.
A
I,
don't
know
about
other
Partnerships
I,
don't
know
other
organizations,
I
don't
know
if
we
can
partner
with
every
single
Grassroots
organization
in
Boston,
I
think
that
would
be
very
complicated,
but
I
also
think
that
unknown
that
in
matters
of
hate,
talk
it's
cheap.
So.
A
I
think
we
need
to
decide
if
we
continue
if
we
want
to
continue
in
the
research
path
which
of
course,
as
an
academic
I,
have
no
objection
to
the
vision,
research
or
we
want
to
also
also
move
in
the
direction
of
action.
A
So
I
would
leave
it
up
to
you
whether
we
move
on
the
recommendations
of
the
the
people
who
presented
last
week
or
or
not,
we
can
do
either.
We
can
take
those
recommendations
and
debate
them
or
we
can
simply
lift
them
up
aside.
G
Foreign
well,
it
did
sound
like
we
were
on
the
same
page
about
Partnerships
I
feel
like
that's
something
I've
heard
across
the
board.
As
the
next
steps
I,
don't
think
we
necessarily
have
to
decide
on
we're,
taking
up
all
the
recommendations.
You
know
at
a
time
but
I
think
Partnerships
potentially
having
some
of
those
Community
conversations.
G
You
know
I
think
something
could
potentially
come
out
of
that
which
can
be
maybe
you
know
we
developed
some
sort
of
strategy
around
data
collection.
You
know-
or
maybe
we
develop
some
sort
of
recommendations
of
like
what's
needed
from
the
city
to
support
what
some
communities
are
already
trying
to
do
and
they
need
more
resources
behind
it
or
you
know,
or
an
infrastructure
behind
it
or
you
know,
there's
groups
doing
more
like
transformative,
Justice
type
circles
and
practices.
G
You
know
and
maybe
there's
things
to
learn
there
so
I,
you
know
I,
think
I
think
we
can
take
like
a
more
concrete
step
in
saying
we
want
to
support
this
and
without
saying
you
know,
Lane
at
the
full
roadmap.
You
know
at
this
time,
while
looking
into
you
know
best
practices,
you
know
if
they
exist
or
as
part
of
these
conversations
as
well.
C
B
I,
don't
think
it's
not
partnership
or
data
or
either
or
I,
think
everything
has
to
be
done
and
I
I
really
believe.
If
we're
gonna
move
this
commission
forward,
if
we're
gonna,
really
be
a
presence
in
the
city
than
developing
Partnerships
from
other
longer
established
human
rights
commissions
that
surround
us,
as
well
as
having
listening
tours
reaching
out
to
community
organizations.
B
I
think
all
those
things
have
to
happen
as
far
as
a
strategic
plan
on
how
they
happen,
I
think
the
the
first
step
should
be
to,
of
course,
continue
educating
ourselves
and
if
there
is,
if
there
is
something
concrete
we
want,
you
know
more
data
on
I
I
understand
that
completely
you
know
we
when
the
Human
Rights
Commission
was
first
reintroduced.
B
We
did
have
some
research
done
on
Human
Rights
Commission
across
the
country
and
what
they
were
doing
and
I
feel
like
now,
it's
time
to
get
more
local
and
see
what
other
human
rights
commissions
are
doing
in
our
area
and
develop
those
relationships.
I
think
I
think
how
you
change
things,
how
you
stop
hate
is
by
relationships,
and
so,
if
we
could
first
build
relationships
with
area,
human
rights
commissions
learn
from
them
be
in
partnership
with
them.
B
I
think
that's
a
great
first
step
and
from
those
conversations
and
learning
you
know,
one
of
the
things
can
be
like.
Do
you
collect
data?
Why
are
you
collecting
data?
We
could
ask
them
those
questions.
We're
asking
ourselves.
F
F
I
I
agree
with
everything,
I
think
yeah
I,
don't
kind
of
see
it
isn't
either
or
it
seems
like.
We
definitely
need
time
to
know
what
the
the
best
you
know
approach
is,
and
so
the
best
way
to
do
that
is
to
to
be
on
the
ground,
to
stay
connected
to
the
folks
that
are
doing
the
work
and
give
ourselves
time
to
kind
of
develop
those
priorities,
and
so
yeah
I
mean
it
doesn't
feel
like
we're
kicking
the
can
down.
F
It
feels
like
we're,
you
know
getting
the
power
rolling
and
it
definitely
feels
like
the
right
time
to
again,
like
I,
said,
think
about
how
to
do
things
a
little
bit
differently,
because
the
status
quo
just
isn't
working
yeah.
A
Okay,
so
at
this
point,
I
think
there
is
a
consensus
about
the
Partnerships,
but
I
would
need
a
motion
from
one
of
you
so
that
we
can
vote
on
that
on
establishing
Partnerships
with
either
other
organizations
or
human
rights
organizations.
Give
me
a
motion,
and
so
we
can
have
a
vote.
A
Okay,
very
well,
so
emotion
has
been
made.
Is
there
a
second
okay,
the
mesh?
The
motion
has
been
seconded
and
is
there
any
discussion
of
the
motion
further
discussion
now
about
this
particular
motion.
A
Hearing
none,
let's
vote
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
stated
by
commissioner
Russo.
Please
raise
your
hand.
A
No
abstentions,
no
vote
negative
votes.
The
motion
carries
unanimously.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
That
was
a
very
good
discussion
and
we
have
now
our
second
point
of
the
day.
I
commissioner
Paredes
was
very
kind
and
postponed
his
presentation
on
the
ubisa
sponsorship.
Last
month.
We
have
his
presentation
today,
followed
by
a
discussion
of
the
format
for
the
meetings
for
the
next
few
minutes.
Commissioner
Paredes
you
have
the
floor.
Okay,.
G
A
Yes,
so
so
that
we
made
sure
that
you
are
not,
you
were
not
going
to
be
pushed
back
again.
G
Perfect,
okay,
so
I'll
talk
a
little
slower.
So
just
as
a
reminder,
one
of
the
potential
you
know
one
of
the
priority
areas.
Potential
priorities
we
had
laid
out
a
couple
of
months
back,
was
to
look
at
the
possibility
of
the
Boston
Human
Rights
Commission,
of
becoming
a
certification
Agency
for
immigrants
who
are
seeking
to
obtain
their
new
and
T
visas.
G
And
so
you
don't
want
it
to
lay
out
a
little
bit
today
of
of
first
of
all,
what
is
a
UNT
Visa,
you
know
just
generally
speaking
and
and
why
would
this
be
helpful?
What
would
that
process
potentially
look
like
you
know
what
are
some
potential
next
steps,
and
so
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
go
through
some
of
the
information
that
I
think
may
have
been.
G
G
If
there's
specific
questions
about
that
and
continue,
but
first
of
all
just
a
little
background
on
on
UNT
visas
and
and
what
they
are,
the
the
U
Visa
specifically
is
available
to
victims
of
certain
qualifying
crimes
who
have
suffered,
who
have
suffered
some
type
of
you
know
mental
or
physical
abuse
related
to
to
those
crimes
and
that
are
willing
to
come
forward
and
assist
either
a
federal,
a
state
or
a
local
government
agency
or
officials
in
either.
You
know
the
investigation,
the
detection
or
prosecution
of
those
those
crimes.
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So
if
they
come
forward
with
with
helping
that
investigation
prosecution,
then
they
may
qualify
for
for
this
new
visa,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
though,
they
must
provide
the
the
victim
must
provide
a
certification
form.
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That's
signed
from
one
of
those
federal
state
or
local.
You
know
agencies
and
that
form
would
certify
that
the
person
has
been
a
victim
under
one
of
these
qualifying
crimes
that
the
victim
possesses
information
about
that
crime
and
then
that
they
are
or
going
to
be,
likely
helpful
in
detecting,
investigating
or
Prosecuting
them.
That
they're
going
to
you
know,
come
forward
and
support
those
efforts.
In
some
sort
of
way,
so
that's
that's
the
U
Visa.
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The
t
visa
is
for
victims
of
human
trafficking,
including
both
you
know:
sex
and
labor
trafficking,
who
report
those
type
of
trafficking
crimes
and
comply
with
requests
for
assistance,
as
well
so
similar
to
the
you
know,
UV
so
and
on
the
TV
side,
it's
not
necessarily
required
to
have
a
certification
document,
but
often
that's
helpful
as
well,
and
so
that's
that's.
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Just
the
basic
idea
of
what
new
and
t
visa
are
and
why
a
certification
from
a
local
state
or
federal
agency
would
be
helpful
in
in
obtaining
that
Visa
they
would.
They
would
take
that
certification
with
their
application
and
send
it
to
immigration
officials
to
process
their.
You
know
application.
Any
questions
on
that.
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Okay,
the
the
next
piece
is
just
give
you
a
little
background
on
a
law
that
passed
here
at
the
state
level
in
Massachusetts
a
couple
years
ago,
there
was
a
law
passed
back
in
2021
about
the
whole
certification
process,
specifically
and
basically
what
it
says.
It
requires
any
local
or
state
certifying
agency
in
Massachusetts
to
issue
a
policy
about
you
and
t
visa
certifications,
and
it
also
lays
out
several
other
things
as
well,
such
as
how
much
time
they
have
to
respond
to
those
request
that
immigrants
put
forward.
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G
Why
that
that
that's
the
case,
and
so
this
was
rolled
out
well,
I
mean
it
was
passed
a
couple
of
years
ago,
but
not
every
single
agency
has
put
out
a
policy,
yet
you
know
there's
they're
still
rolling
them
out,
but
the
idea
is
that
they're
supposed
to
have
them
by
now
those
those
who
are
already
certifying
agencies,
the
Boston,
Human
Rights
Commission-
is
not
a
certifying
agency
as
of
right
now,
and
so
you
know
we
haven't
required.
We
haven't
been
required
to
have
any
of
that,
but
were
we
to
become
one
then?
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At
that
point
there
would
need
to
be.
You
know
a
a
policy,
a
process
created
to
how
we're
going
to
process
requests
for
the
certifications
and
the
important
for
the
Boston
Human
Rights
Commission
is
that
the
under
this
law,
who's
considered
a
certifying
entity
or
certifying
agency.
You
know
most
of
what
we
hear
usually
is
stay
in,
and
local
law
enforcement
agencies
are
certifying
agencies.
G
Prosecutors
offices
are
also
certifying
agencies,
but
then
there's
also
other
government
offices
that
don't
necessarily
prosecute
crimes,
but
that
play
a
role
in
investigating
them,
and
so
this
includes,
for
example,
the
Department
of
Children
and
Families.
The
Massachusetts
commission
against
discrimination
is
another
one,
and
so
there's
a
potential
rule
for
commissions
like
this
one,
just
like
mcad,
for
example,
to
step
in
and
and
be
a
certifying
agency.
Even
though
we're
not
our
role
isn't
to
prosecute
crimes,
but
we
can
help
with
the
investigation.
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Piece
of
of
you
know,
harm
that's
created
that
falls
under
under
one
of
these
qualifying
crimes,
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
and
so
the
there's
a
a
long
list
of
qualifying
crimes
for
for
obtaining
Au,
Visa.