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From YouTube: Boston Human Rights Commission Public Meeting 2.16.23
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Boston Human Rights Commission Public Meeting 2.16.23
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A
I
will
let
you
know
that
before
we
start
that,
because
of
the
agenda
being
very
full,
there
is
a
possibility
that
one
of
the
items,
a
presentation
on
you
and
T
visas
be
postponed
for
the
match.
Meeting.
Commissioner
Paredes
is
in
charge
of
this
presentation,
and
so,
if
we
don't
have
enough
time
for
it
to
be
done
very
carefully,
we
will
move
it
to
the
next
meeting.
The
meeting
of
March
and
with
that
I
would
like
to
I
need
a
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
for
today.
C
A
A
A
Well,
the
minutes
are
approved
with
one
abstention
of
commissioner
Russo,
who
was
not
present
at
the
meeting.
We're
gonna
move
now
to
the
reports.
First,
we
will
have
the
executive
director
report
and
my
report
will
be
limited
to
the
presentation
of
our
research
team
today,
director
Susie
help
me
please.
E
E
First
and
foremost,
we
do
have
our
social
media
presence
now,
so
we
do
have
an
Instagram,
a
Twitter
and
a
newsletter
you
can
find
the
links
to
all
of
it
on
our
website,
which
I
will
put
in
the
chat
also
located
on
our
website,
is
an
updated
dashboard
that
we
have
I
believe
in
the
last
meeting.
I
had
talked
about
the
dashboard,
not
really
being
visually
appealing
and
the
map
of
the
intake's
not
working
very
well.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
This
is
the
public
art.
Well,
I
will
say
that
it's
becoming
now
a
trend
for
specifically
the
utility
boxes
that
are
painted
to
be
vandalized
with
either
ratios
racial,
slurs
or
hate
speech.
So
it's
becoming
a
little
bit
more
prominent
and
the
city's
gonna.
The
city
is
putting
together
interdepartmental
Coalition
to
talk
strategy,
prevention
and
I,
of
course,
will
be
representing
the
Human
Rights
Commission
there.
In
this
meeting
it
hasn't
been
site
yet,
but
it's
in
the
works.
E
To
our
anti-hate
workshops
that
I
have
I
know
mentioned
like
17
times
already,
I
am
trying
to
locate
a
local
organization
or
any
organization
that
has
a
generic
know.
Your
rights
training
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
a
lot
of
the
organizations
that
I
have
been
reaching
out
to
Denise
and
I
have
been
meeting
with
either
do
not
have
the
staff
capacity
to
either
put
one
together
or
do
the
training,
or
only
has
training
targeted
towards
a
specific
Community.
E
Like
know
your
rights
for
the
lgbtq
community,
so
I
would
like
a
I,
am
looking
for
a
kind
of
overview,
generic
one,
so
I'm
asking
all
Commissioners
or
anyone
in
the
chat
even
to
email
me
or
reach
out
to
me,
with
any
suggestions.
So
I
can
make
that
connection.
So
we
can
get
this
off
the
ground,
so
I'm
asking
for
some
help
there
just
to
help
get
that
going.
B
E
F
G
E
Oh,
going
back
to
the
Arts
piece,
Denise
and
I
are
working
with
the
arts
department
here
at
the
city.
Again,
this
is
still
in
the
works,
but
we're
in
preliminary
discussion
about
putting
a
call
out
to
a
Boston
artist
to
have
them
do
a.
What
does
human
rights
mean
to
you
and
then
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
the
logistics
of?
Are
we
going
to
make
this
a
Digital
Arts
campaign,
or
one
that
we
could
possibly
get
up
in
Boston
city.
E
So
the
partnership
with
the
U.S
attorney's
office
will
be
specifically
specifically
with
her
and
Hate
Now
hotline.
So
if
they
get
any
of
the
intakes
that
happen
in
Boston
that
we
could
maybe
help
the
individual
with
resources
or
for
those
individuals
that
don't
need
help
or
want
to
do
it
anonymously,
they
will
still
share
that
data
so
that
we
can
keep
track
of
it
since
we're
Boston,
specific
and
they're
all
of
Massachusetts.
Just
so
we
can
further
our
data
collection.
E
C
E
Yeah
and
then
it's
just
again
to
funds
too,
because
I'm
not
really
sure
how
much
this
is
going
to
be.
Is
it
going
to
be
just
a
digital,
social
media
arts?
When
we
pick
the
artist
or
can
we
get
a
couple
of
them
to
do
a
painting
here
at
City
Hall,
or
is
it
enough
that
we
can
have
them
done
at
different
public
libraries
or
bcyf
centers,
but
that's
the
thought
process
behind
it.
F
A
A
It
requires
a
lot
of
patience.
A
lot
of
phone
calls
an
enormous
number
of
meetings,
and,
but
it
is
speaking
up
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
very
happy
very
happy
with
it.
Okay,
let
me
present
our
guests
and
do
my
report.
At
the
same
time,
according
to
the
Southern
Poverty
Law
Center
and
the
Anti-Defamation
League
last
year,
the
city
of
Boston
was
targeted
by
white
supremacist
groups
32
times
the
previous
year
37
times.
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A
A
After
the
presentation,
the
floor
will
be
open
for
questions
first
from
the
Commissioners
and
commission
staff
and
then
from
the
public
and
as
I
said
before.
If
we
run
out
of
time,
commissioner
Paradise
have
has
offered
to
postpone
his
presentation
to
the
March
meeting,
if
needed
and
with
that
I
pass
it
two
mods.
I
I've
walked,
my
name
is
mattybutia.
Can
you
hear
me
great?
So
I
represent
the
conflict
early
morning
analytics
program
at
UMass
Boston
when
we've
been
monitoring
political
violence
and
hate
crimes.
His
work
started
in
2020
when
we
were
observing
an
increasing
threat
of
white
supremacy,
domestic
terrorism,
political
violence
and
all
that
kind
of
threatening
the
2020
presidential
elections,
and
we
created
a
national
infrastructure
called
the
trust
Network,
which
is
a
national.
I
You
know
the
first
U.S
early
warning
system
with
multiple
peace
building
groups
with
International
domestic
experience,
all
the
way
down
to
community
mediation,
centers
working
in
communities
on
by
standard
intervention
prevention
Etc.
This
team
that
you're
about
to
meet
the
conflict.
Early
warning
analytics
program
is
really
the
analytical
Hub
of
the
early
warning
system.
The
trust
Network
early
warning
system
me
personally
I've
got
21
21
years
of
experience
in
this
field,
but
what
I
want
to
show?
You
is
a
growing
concern
today
that
we
want
to
race.
I
You
know
so
that
we
can
at
least
have
a
conversation
on
how
to
approach.
This
is
an
increasing
level
of
activities,
particularly
in
the
Massachusetts
Northeastern
region.
As
you
can
see,
this
is
data
from
the
Anti-Defamation
League
and
we
have
what
we're
calling.
We
actually
call
this.
A
I
can
show
this
other
map
as
well
sort
of
a
corridor
of
hit
along
the
Eastern
Shoreline
ending
in
Boston
in
particular,
as
the
heat
map
indicates,
as
well
as
along
the
sort
of
the
northern
Shoreline.
I
The
connection
between
Adam
Waffen,
which
is
an
international
terrorist
group,
right-wing
extremist
group
and
the
the
threat
to
the
electricity
grid.
So
we
want
to
raise
this
through
data
and
have
a
conversation
about
prevention
and
present
you
some
of
our
findings
and
recommendations.
So
with
that
I'm
gonna
ask
my
analyst
to
start
starting
with
Kelsey.
H
Hi
everyone
good
evening,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
here
tonight.
My
name
is
Kelsey
Edmond
I'm,
a
doctoral
candidate
of
public
policy
at
UMass
Boston
and
an
analyst
on
the
conflict,
early
warning,
analytics
and
policy
project
team
and
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
touch
on
the
topic
of
hate
crime,
data
or
lack
thereof,
and
some
things
that
can
be
done
about
it
moving
forward.
H
So
last
spring
our
team
triangulated
four
different
data
sets
from
these
organizations
that
you
see
here
to
understand
where,
in
the
country,
the
most
amount
of
hate
crimes
are
occurring
and
I
can't
get
into
specifics.
Unfortunately,
but
Boston
does
rise
to
the
top
on
one
of
those
lists,
specifically
the
FBI
hate
crime
data.
H
So
that
brings
me
to
my
next
point.
I'm
sure
many
of
you
are
aware
of
the
recent
changes
that
the
FBI
implemented
when
it
comes
to
hate
crime
reporting
in
2021,
the
FBI
Stitch
reporting
systems
and
many
jurisdictions
were
unable
to
migrate
their
data
reporting
over
to
the
new
system,
and
this
resulted
in
missing
data
from
over
7
000
police
agencies
across
the
country.
Among
those
being
two
huge
cities,
Los
Angeles
to
New
York
City.
H
So
this
map
here
on
the
right
hand,
side
shows
that
shows
the
percentage
of
the
population
that
is
covered
by
reporting
media.
This
new
system
and,
as
you
can
see,
those
numbers
are
extremely
low
for
some
of
the
most
populated
states
in
the
country,
and
these
missing
pockets
of
data
are
occurring
on
such
a
large
scale,
because
hate
crime
reporting
is
voluntary
at
the
state,
local
and
Tribal
Law
Enforcement
levels.
H
So
our
team
is
working
on
ways
that
we
can
engage
the
role
of
Civil
Society
to
try
to
fill
in
some
of
these
reporting
gaps.
Some
communities
have
taken
it
upon
themselves
to
create
their
own
reporting
tools,
such
as
a
mobile
app
that
can
instantaneously
and
anonymously
connect
citizens
to
law
enforcement.
H
And
lastly,
these
initiatives
don't
really
work
without
proper
training
and
education
of
community
leaders,
because
hate
crimes
can
look
differently
in
different
regions,
so
ensuring
that
local
leaders
can
identify
hate
crimes
and
understand
the
many
barriers
that
people
might
face
in
reporting
them.
This
can
ensure
that
hate
crimes
are
being
dealt
with
accordingly,
so
it
does
sound
like
the
resource
guide.
That's
being
developed
is
a
great
first
step
in
that
direction,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
now
to
my
colleague
Maddie,
who
will
discuss
our
events,
data
analysis.
J
J
So,
as
you
see
from
this
graph
that
there
have
been
explosion
of
hate
events
in
Boston
over
the
years,
especially
after
2015
and
2016,
the
hate
events
were
kind
of
like
sporadic
and
not
organized
by
any
known
group.
Rather,
they
were
unknown
actors
individually
doing
some
events
at
some
places,
but
from
2016
2017
and
up
until
now,
those
events
started
to
come
under
some
types
of
organizations.
J
J
Now,
as
you
can
see,
aside
from
you,
know,
Patriot
front
and
NFC,
there
are
other
groups
that
are
active,
especially
the
Bay
State
active
Club
at
the
chairman,
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier,
the
Revolt
through
Traditions,
the
Bayes
identity,
abrova,
and
so,
and
so
now
you
may
be
asking
well
organizing
events,
irrespective
of
whether
they're
hate
events
or
something
else,
it
might
be
a
constitutional
rights
to
organize
some
types
of
events.
Well,
what
is
there
to
be
alarmed
about?
J
Well,
that
may
be
right,
but
we
checked
into
the
FBI
hate
crime
data
to
see
whether
hate
events
actually
translate
into
actual
hate
crime
taking
place
in
Boston
city
and,
as
you
can
see
from
this
graph,
is
that
FBI
hate
crime
data
is.
It
is
clear
that
it
actually
did
corresponding
to
the
rising
hate
events
in
Boston.
The
hate
crimes
has
also
went
up
in
the
city.
J
J
We
believe
there
is
some
disconnect
in
how
the
data
is
reported
and
how
the
events
are
recorded.
We
we
further
need
to
look
into
it.
This
is
another
grab
looking
into
the
whole
Massachusetts,
so
it's
go
going.
Beyond,
Boston,
City,
we're
also
looking
into
the
whole
Massachusetts,
and
it
tells
the
same
story
of
the
explosion
of
hate
events
and
H
crimes
across
the
state.
K
The
Great
replacement
Theory,
falsely
insinuates
that
there
is
a
conspiracy
theory
about
some
shadowy,
powerful
group
of
evil
people
to
replace
native
white
Americans
and
Europeans
with
non-white.
People
from
the
third
world
I
mean,
of
course
it
is
no
bait,
it's
not
based
in
reality
or
any
kind
of
it's
not
based
in
reality
or
any
kind
of
a
common
sense,
but
it
has
garnered
a
lot
more
garnered
a
lot
of
attention.
K
The
methods
of
attacks
these
groups
use
you
can
see
here.
This
is
a
picture
of
the
group
Patriot
fund,
interacting
with
a
counter
protester
last
year
on
the
4th
of
July.
These
include,
you
know,
physical,
violent
confrontations.
You
know
shouting
at
the
shouting
at
people
showing
up
in
their
gear
or
equipment
to
intimidate
them
a
lot
of
the
times.
They'll
care,
they'll
open,
carry
powerful
guns
such
as
AR-15s
or
if
it
doesn't
even
have
to
be
physical
or
in
person.
K
For
fundraising,
a
lot
of
these
groups
will
fundraise
over
the
Internet
they'll
use.
They'll
use,
crowdfunding
courses
like
GoFundMe,
but
they've
also
used
the
website,
give
send
go,
gives
and
go
is
a
very
explicitly
Christian
and
conservative
GoFundMe
type
crowdfunding
website.
It
was
first
used
by
the
legal
defense
of
Kyle
Rittenhouse,
the
young
man,
who
was
involved
in
some
in
shootings
in
Kenosha
Wisconsin.
During
the
unrest
there
in
the
summer
of
2020,
it
garnered
attention
again
last
year
when
it
was
used
to
support
the
people.
K
K
Right
as
far
as
emerging
threats,
I
know,
someone
briefly
touched
on
this
earlier.
One
of
the
groups
we're
monitoring
is
NSC
131
or
nationalist,
socialist
Club
131.
They
are
a
very
explicitly
Neo-Nazi
and
white
supremacist
group.
That's
based
right
here
in
Massachusetts
they
operate
across
New
England
and
Rhode
Island
and
New
Hampshire,
and
some
other
places
and
they've
been
involved
in
a
lot
of
in
a
lot
of
high
Prof.
Excuse
me:
high
profile,
disturbances,
they
protested
outside,
drag
and
LGBT
events.
L
Thank
you
Matt
good
evening.
Everyone.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
us.
My
name
is
Christina
I'm,
a
fulberg
graduate
student
at
the
department
of
council
resolution,
UMass
Boston
and
I'm
Affiliated
as
an
analyst
with
our
savop
team.
My
role
in
the
team
and
in
the
project
is
to
research,
do
a
little
bit
more
research
about
the
role
of
the
police,
especially
community
policing
officers,
and
what
the
police
can
do
to
increase.
Community
engagement
and
helping
hate
crimes,
and
especially
cyber
hate
speech.
L
L
Some
solutions
and
recommendations
that
we
thought
might
be
utilized
number
one
increase
the
communication
between
law
enforcement
agencies
and
the
community,
including
key
actors
in
The
Society
such
as
Community
groups,
Civil
Society
sector,
religious
organizations,
immigrant
rights
associations
and
organizations,
organizations
that
support
black
communities
in
Boston
Schools,
whether
it's
elementary
middle
and
high
schools,
both
public
and
private
ones,
and
higher
education.
Universities,
both
public
and
private
ones.
Also,
most
importantly,
is
to
enhance
the
collaboration
between
the
Massachusetts
peace
officer
standards
and
training.
L
Commission,
the
newly
established
one
Post
in
the
office
of
police
accountability
and
transparency,
obads.
That
is,
an
internal
oversight
mechanism
of
the
work
of
the
police
in
the
city
of
Boston,
in
readjusting
the
intervention
component
of
community
of
modern
policing
into
prevention,
into
focusing
more
on
the
prevention
pillar,
because,
in
my
opinion,
community
policing,
modern
policing
as
it
was
re-established
in
American
law
enforcement
in
the
9
1960s
and
1970s.
What
was
initially
applicable
back
in
that
time
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
it's
applicable
nowadays
when
it
comes
to
Public
Safety.
Thank
you.
M
So
the
Boston
Marathon
bombings
inflicted
millions
in
damage
to
the
local
economy.
According
to
preliminary
estimates
based
on
published
reports
and
interviews
with
local
businesses
and
authorities,
here
are
some
figures
that
at
the
ultimate
Financial
impact
of
the
vomits,
so,
for
example,
one
rough
calculation
estimated
that
the
cost
of
our
official
likes
for
the
14
people
who
lost
limbs
could
exceed
around
9
million
dollars.
Similarly,
One
Fund
boxing
established
by
the
Surrey
and
state
to
Aid
Marathon
victims
collected
around
23
million
dollars.
M
M
That
now
has
continued
to
significantly
increase.
Sre
government
continues
to
play
a
crucial
role
in
the
communities
healing
process
in
public
safety
needs.
These
costs
tend
to
start
at
the
scene
of
the
children,
for
things
like
emergency
medical
care
or
police
investigation
and
continues
on
to
the
long-term
health
care
and
criminal
justice
costs.
So
both
of
these
events
revealed
a
high
cost
of
an
action
when
it
comes
to
addressing
hate
crime.
Thank
you.
I
I
You
know
get
on
the
same
page
about
domestic
terrorism
as
a
problem.
This
is
this
is
a
domestic
terrorism.
This
is
not
vandalism.
This
is
these
acts
of
terrorism
and
they
will
cost
city
government
they
will
cost
state
government
federal
government
and
the
sort
of
the
canary
in
the
coal
mine
is,
is
essentially
the
hate
crimes
and
the
hate
group
activities
so
for,
for
example,
some
of
these
groups
that
we
mentioned
the
Patriot
front
has
grown
70
percent
over
the
last
two
years.
I
They're
all
over
Massachusetts
I
was
looking
at
some
of
the
data
in
Pennsylvania
and
then
in
sc131,
which
is
a
homegrown
terrorist
organization.
We
also
have
a
left-wing,
Anarchist
group
called
James
Revenge,
that's
targeting
abortion
assistance,
centers,
and
that
is
also
been
termed
vandalism,
but
in
some
cases
there
are
fire
bombing,
these
pregnancy,
Assistance
Center,
and
that
would
also
lead
to
death
people
getting
injured
Etc.
So
let's
call
it
what
it
is.
These
These
are
precursors
of
terrorism,
terrorist
activities
or
terrorist
groups.
I
I
So
we
are
also
concerned
that
here
in
Massachusetts,
we
are
not
really
calling
much
attention
to
this
problem,
and
especially
at
the
government
level
and
the
city
city
level
as
well,
and
the
Civil
Society
is
also
not
really
focused
enough
on
the
growing
threat
now
has
already
to
Rome.
All
roads
in
Massachusetts
represents
that
these
groups
have
taken
have
actually
led
to
Boston.
We
also
mentioned
in
our
presentation
about
the
Saint
Patrick's
Day
event,
where
Tennessee
131
converged
in
the
city
of
Boston.
I
He
also
mentioned
the
Patriot
front
arising
that
black
composer.
You
know
hundreds
of
the
emerging
on
July
4th.
This
has
been
going
on
for
several
years
now,
so
all
roads
lead
to
lead
to
Boston,
and
this
is
something
that
Boston
cannot
ignore
and
we've
seen
some
discouraging
responses
from
city
government
as
well
saying
we've
taken.
We
were
unaware
of
this
threat
Etc
when
actually
they
had
marched
in
the
city
prior
to
that
as
well.
I
So
that's
a
problem
so
and
the
other
thing
is
the
government
resources,
primarily
the
role
of
enforcement,
there's
really
no
Civil
Society
mechanism.
To
this
you
know
preventative
mechanism
that
is
built
in
and
therefore
we
feel
that
the
Human
Rights
Commission
has
an
increasingly
pivotal
role
in
convening
some
sort
of
a
group
or
some
sort
of
set
of
actions
to
try
and
monitor
this
threat
to
bring
the
Civil
Society
actors
together.
I
The
law
enforcement
actors
together,
academic
Community,
the
researchers
like
us
in
into
calling
attention
to
this
problem
and
putting
together
a
plan
for
prevention,
not
just
monitoring
but
prevention
and
building
strategies
in
the
city
of
Boston,
and
we've
also
had
that
data
on
hate
crimes
in
Boston
is
incomplete.
As
with
many
other
cities.
We
are
also
concerned
that
a
number
of
these
hate
crimes
and
events
do
not
get
reported
and
and
formal
reporting
mechanism
bi,
has
also
broken
down.
I
At
the
same
time,
we
are
seeing
stabbing
incidents
all
kinds
of
events
in
the
city
for
the
last
several
years.
At
least
and
and
those
in
events
are
increasing
day
by
day,
so
an
agency
in
the
city
of
Boston,
you
know,
is
required,
like
the
Human
Rights
Commission,
with
the
holistic
view
of
this
hateful
violence,
how
we
translate
into
political
violence
and
domestic
terrorism,
and
we
believe
that
the
Human
Rights
Commission
can
fill
this
Gap
by
implementing.
I
You
know
at
least
a
modest
set
of
best
practices
already
at
work
in
other
human
rights
groups
and
cities
across
the
U.S.
Some
of
this
includes
putting
together
bills,
monitoring
mechanisms,
all
kinds
of
reporting
tools
of
hate
crimes
Etc,
and
we
are
willing
to
partner
with
the
Human
Rights
Commission
in
developing
some
of
these
tools,
analyzing
data,
whatever
we
can
do
as
Innovative
University
of
Massachusetts
Boston.
I
Given
the
tools
and
the
resources
we
have
in
hand
and
obviously
there's
the
question
of
having
mandated
reporting
of
Aid
crimes,
and
if
we
put
all
these
things
together,
we
feel
that
the
the
city
of
Boston
and
the
Human
Rights
Commission
and
whatever
we
managed
to
convene,
could
actually
be
a
an
example
to
other
cities.
So
this
could
be
an
exciting
pilot
project
for
other
cities.
I
To
emulate,
we've
already
seen
how
San,
Francisco
and
a
few
other
cities
are
warming
up
to
these
ideas,
but
a
lot
more
needs
to
be
done,
and
we
want
to
sort
of
officially
recommend
some
of
these
actions
to
you
and
are
willing
to
work
with
you
partner
with
you,
whatever
that
is
needed
at
RN
to
make
this
happen.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Action:
okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much.
Every
single
one
of
you,
I'm
gonna,
open
the
floor.
First
to
the
Commissioners
and
Commissioners
commission
staff
for
questions
and
comments,
and
then
we
can
go
to
to
the
public.
Go
ahead.
Just
raise
your
hand
and
start
talking.
Please
Commissioners
interns,
executive
director,
commissioner
Russo.
C
So
I
think
I
think
the
data
is
key
and,
and
that
would
be
mandatory,
reporting
and
I
just
don't
know
how
you
go
about
making
it
be
mandatory
and
what
power
we
have
to
enable
that
to
happen.
Would
it
be
through
our
work
with
Boston
city
council
I'm,
just
wondering
about
the
mechanisms
of
of
making
that
happen.
I
Yes,
short
of
mandatory
I
mean
that's
a
larger
conversation,
but
this
is
something
that
we
feel
is
the
need
and
the
feasibility
of
that.
Obviously,
we
will
need
to
examine,
however,
a
slightly
short
of
that.
A
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
trust
or
lack
thereof,
in
in
reporting
eight
coins
and
sort
of
a
civil
society
based
mechanism
that
is
lacking.
You
know
where
people
can.
You
know,
report
things
that
they
would
not.
I
They
would
not
feel
comfortable
reporting,
but
I
think
the
mandatory
reporting
aspect
is
certainly
becoming
more
and
more
obvious
because
of
missing
data,
and
when
you
don't
have
enough
reports
coming
in
you,
don't
really
have
an
accurate
picture
of
what's
really
going
on
so
whether
it's
at
the
state
level
or
at
the
city
level,
something
has
to
be
done.
There
has
to
be
a
way
for
us
to
compel
agencies.
I
You
know,
maybe
get
into
Data
sharing
agreement
whatever
it
is,
to
try
and
collect
this
data,
collect
this
data
analyze
this
data
and
make
public
decisions,
public
policy
decisions
have
rules
and
regulations
to
prevent
this,
including
bills.
Perhaps
that
specifically
ban
certain
that
of
hate,
because
I
don't
think
that
there
is
enough
information
out
there.
I
You
know
for
people
who
feel
that
this
is
an
urgent
crisis,
and
part
of
it
is
because
of
a
lack
of
data,
especially
when
you
have
agencies
federal
agencies
like
the
FBI
and
their
hate
terms,
reporting
data
also
kind
of
not
working.
At
this
point,
especially
at
this
critical
juncture.
You
know
that
data
is
because
become
unreliable.
D
Oh,
thank
you.
That
was
a
great
presentation.
I
appreciate
it.
I
I
just
was
thinking
being
a
long-standing
Bostonian
African-American
male.
That
Boston
has
not
been
really
looked
at
as
a
liberal
City,
it's
been
looked
at
as
a
city
that
wasn't
friendly
to
people
of
color.
So
therefore
it
becomes
a
hotbed
of
of
people
and
these
different
types
of
groups
that
are
outside
of
Boston
I.E
in
Connecticut
Pennsylvania
and
now
come
and
feed
off
of
the
perception
of
Boston
to
elevate
these
hate
crimes.
D
Did
you
look
at
also
the
transition
of
of
people
moving
from
because
of
economic
issues?
Moving
from
towns,
I
mean
communities
in
Boston
that
were
historically
hate
crime.
Racist.
A
lot
of
those
folks
have
moved
to
towns
like
Braintree
Weymouth
surrounding
areas
of
Boston,
where
they
start
to
see
an
uptick
of
of
hate
crimes
and
I
will
mention
Quincy.
Also
and
I
say
that,
because
of
economic
issues,
South
Boston
was
a
place.
That
was,
you
know,
predominantly
Irish
and
South
Sound
East
Boston.
D
Have
you
looked
at
any
of
that?
Those
type
of
Dynamics
and
I
know
that,
because
I
work
with
the
Department
of
Justice
on
a
lot
of
this
stuff
in
the
past
year,
through
the
I
used
to
work
with
Department
of
Public
House
I
was
just
curious.
Did
you
look
at
any
of
those
factors?
As
you
were
doing,
your
research.
I
You
know
ethnic
racial
minorities
also
religious
and
sexual
minority
is
if
you
want
to
call
it
that
really
going
after
these
groups
and
obviously
the
threatening
calls
that
the
Boston
Children's
Hospital
is
getting
not.
You
know
not
to
forget
that
about
gender
conversion,
all
of
these
conspiracy
theories,
but
the
problem
is
as
you've
seen
again
and
again
we
have
a
gun
problem
in
this
country
and
a
problem
with
mass
shootings.
I
We
have
also
we
also
have
a
problem
with
online
radicalization
and
we
have
seen
how
individuals
in
these
groups
take
matters
to
their
hands.
So
you
know
whether
you
want
to
call
it
Lone,
Wolf
or
tax
Etc.
You
know
we're
just
witnessing
the
trial
in
in
Buffalo,
so
you
know
the
threat
the
threat
of
ignoring
this
is
huge,
so
it
applies
to
any
City,
any
demographic,
any
any
any
group
really
that
is
under
threat.
I
You
know
under
in
that
list
of
categories
of
people,
but
the
city
of
Boston
is
really
like
I
said.
A
lot
of
these
groups
really
want
to
be
seen
in
the
city
of
Boston
as
being
involved
in
certain
things
for
test
demonstrations
Etc
and
where
people
gather
so
I.
Think
the
city
of
Boston
can
be
an
example
on
how
to
bring
the
rest
of
the
Civil
Society,
because
a
lot
of
Church
groups
synagogues,
you
know,
Interfaith
groups
are
lots
of
groups
who
are
actually
doing.
I
D
But
real
quick
question:
I'm,
sorry,
I'm!
Sorry
I
just
want
another
quick
question
on
that
point,
because
I
think
this
is
important
because
because
we
are
very
attractive
at
looking
for
extremist
groups,
city
of
Boston
right
now,
while
it
has
been
because
the
history
of
racism
in
Boston.
So
therefore
they
want
to
capitalize
on
that
image
coming
in
here
and
establishing
themselves
after
I.
D
I
A
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
for
the
presentation,
so
I'll
say
a
couple
comments
and
questions
and
I
think
even
if
there's
no
time
to
answer
them
now,
I
think
maybe
something
to
like
Circle
back
on.
You
know,
as
you
continue
doing
this
work,
but
one
you
know
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it
feels
like
this
pairs
really
well
with
the
presentation
that
we
had
previously
from
you
know,
Lilo
and
Dalia,
and
so
I
feel
like
there's.
Definitely
some
some
some
work.
B
Just
a
couple
notes,
Here
I,
think
one
thing
that
also
sticks
out
to
me
from
noticing
these
sort
of
like
hate
crimes
and
events
around
the
country
is
one
the
racial
issue,
but
one
it
seems
unless
I'm,
you
know
incorrected
out
of
numbers,
but
that
it's
predominantly
a
male
issue
as
well,
and
that
there's
you
know
a
gender
issue
here
as
well,
and
so
you
know
wondering
what
sort
of
thought
or
conversations
are
around
that
as
well.
So,
just
you
know
that's
just
kind
of
more
of
a
gentle
comment.
B
Also,
you
know
one
thing,
I'm
wondering
is:
do
we
know
or
does
law
enforcement?
Does
anyone
know
who
these
people
are?
Are
they
from
you
know,
there's
been
you
know,
a
lot
of
use
of,
for
example,
gang
databases
against
brown
and
black
communities,
wondering
if
there's
something
similar
happening
with
these
sort
of
you
know
groups
and
do
we
know
who
these
people
are?
Are
they
working
in
public
spaces?
B
Are
they
from
certain
you
know
neighborhoods
do
we
have
some
sort
of
sense
of
where
some
of
this
is
starting
to
like
to
come
up
from
you
know
and
level
up
from
certain
communities
or
areas,
and
so
that's
I,
guess
one
general
question
and
then
I'll
just
I'll
throw
one
more
out
there.
Whatever
lands
and
sticks-
and
you
want
to
respond
to
you
know
happy
to
hear,
is
yeah
I
think
getting
up.
You
know
in
terms
of
brainstorming
prevention
strategies.
B
I
think
that's
always
like
a
complicated
question,
because
it's
I'm
glad
that
it
was
brought
up
of
thinking
of
prevention
and
thinking
of
prevention,
not
only
in
the
sense
of
how
do
we
add
more
crime
loss
to
the
books
right,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
I
think
mixed
results
on
what
that
does
or
doesn't
accomplish,
but
but
yeah
wondering
if
there's
already
been
some
best
practices
that
we've
seen
in
other
communities
that
are
starting
to
form
around.
You
know
some
of
some
of
that.
So
thank
you.
So
much
again,.
I
One
small
caveat
I
would
like
to
introduce
is
that
when
we
look
at
the
1500
profiles
that
terrorism
expert
Robert
pip
did
at
the
University
of
Chicago
of
the
of
the
January
sixth
attackers,
we,
what
we
found
was
that
they
were
predominantly
a
white
middle
class
affluent.
You
know
people
who,
90
of
whom
were
unaffiliated
to
any
of
these
groups,
that
we're
talking
about
Patriot
front
MSC
one
or
none
of
these,
some
of
them
even
flew
there.
You
know
in
private
jet,
so
they
actually
came
from
purple
or
blue
States.
I
So
this
idea
that
they
come
from
some
sort
of
red
State-
you
know
particular
demographic
is,
you
know,
doesn't
really
match
and
these
these
people,
for
whatever
reason
they
came,
they
ended
up
attacking
our
government.
So
it's
it's
that
dangerous.
This
particular
demographic
that
you're
talking
about
you
know
and
I'll
use
I'll
ask
Jenkins
to
to
talk
a
little
more
about
that.
I
But
if
you
look
at
the
some
of
these
individuals
who
launched
these
attacks,
you
know
if
you
want
to
call
to
attention
these
Lone
Wolf
type
of
attackers,
the
boss,
the
the
Buffalo
shooter,
for
example.
These
are
young
white
males,
some
of
them
in
their
teens
late,
teens,
19,
2017,
early
20s,
and-
and
you
know
they
are.
If
you
look
at
the
the
ideological
side
of
things,
the
the
literature
that
they
put
together,
what
they
have
said
online,
it
aligns
with
several
things.
You
know.
I
One
thing
is
the
replacement
Theory.
This
fear
that
that
particular
demographic
is
losing
power,
that
they're
being
replaced
by
everybody
else
and
then
there's
another
theory
called
acceleration
generation
which
is
kind
of
sort
of
Bringing
Down,
the
the
order
of
things
so
that
there's
a
new
order
based
on
race.
So
there
are
these
sort
of
driving
forces,
but
this
particular
demographic
needs
help
and
and
it's
in
these
bubbles,
a
lot
of
it
is
in
the
digital
bubble.
I
But
we
need
to
focus
on
you
know:
structural
prevention
of
longer
term
prevention.
You
know,
which
means
tackling
this
particular
demographic,
their
fears,
their
concerns,
whatever
that
they're
going
through
as
well.
If
you,
if
you're
gonna,
address
this
in
a
longer
term,
because
that's
who
is
taking
the
guns
and
and
and
carrying
out
some
of
these
actions,
so
so
they
they
have
a
certain
issues
themselves.
So
the
demographic
aspect
of
it
is
fascinating.
I
Again,
going
back
to
the
the
Buffalo
shoot,
I.E
drove
200
miles
to
the
Tops
Market.
You
know
that
neighborhood
is
80,
90
black
and
he
came
from
a
area
which
is
90
white,
so
he
had
to
drive
all
the
way
there
to
to
prove
a
point
by
killing
all
these
people.
So
you
know
that's
why
what
I
mean
you
know
being
and
and
the
point
that
the
other
gentleman
commissioner
race
is.
This
is
yavi.
I
A
N
You
stress
out
the
importance
of
prevention
and,
at
times,
I
felt
that
you
also
emphasize
monitoring
hate
crimes,
but
I,
wonder
that
whether
you
could
please
elaborate
on
the
importance
of
also
focusing
on
hate
events,
because
you
saw
a
correlation
between
events
and
then
the
occurrence
of
crimes,
and
if
that
is
important,
then
how
you
you
make
the
distinction
conceptually
between
one
and
the
other
and
how
the
commission
could
then
help
in
in
identifying
both
of
them.
Thank
you.
I
Another
great
Point,
thank
you
for
that.
You
know,
we've
been
doing
event
data
analysis,
which
is
a
specific
area
in
in
early
morning
and
you're.
Exactly
right
and
Mahdi
actually
mentioned
this
in
his
presentation.
For
example,
when
we
looked
at
a
particular
data
set
and
I'll
use
the
portal
and
data
set,
for
example,
events
like
vandalism,
people
don't
really
pay
much
attention
to
that
graffiti.
Whatever
you
want
to
call
it
the
drawing
of
a
swastika
right
people,
don't
don't
really
consider
that
a
crime?
I
However,
when
you
have
enough
saturation
of
those
events,
we
also
noticed
you
know
violent
demonstrations,
violent
protests
groups
moving
in
with
you
know
that
were
practically
armed
assaults,
all
kinds
of
actual
physical
attacks
or
threatening
postures
threatening
movement
Etc
that
could
have
actually
LED
to
a
Bloodshed
and,
as
we
have
seen
you
know
in
that
you
know
in
the
sort
of
the
Northwestern
region
those
things
have
adapted.
We
saw
what
Kyle
Rittenhouse
did
that
you
know
young
teenager.
I
I
F
F
G
E
A
A
I
Oh
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
sorry
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
to
do,
at
least
in
this
order
term
is
to
look
at
some
of
the
sort
of
best
practices
of
what
some
of
the
other
cities
and
cities
are
doing,
and
you
know
we
can
actually
put
some
information
together
for
you,
which
you
know,
we've
also
looked
at.
You
know,
sort
of
hate
crimes
reporting,
you
know
apps.
I
You
know
various
other
tools
as
well,
but
I
think
some
of
the
things
you're
seeing
is
various
groups
being
brought
together,
convened
by
human
rights
commissions,
City
Town
officials,
U.S,
attorneys,
Etc,
and
that
includes
religious
communities,
all
kinds
of
groups-
and
you
know,
sort
of
calling
attention
to
the
problem.
That's
sort
of
one
of
the
things
you
know,
I,
don't
want
to
call
it
lawying
improved,
because
it's
a
very
important
step
to
putting
together
sort
of
bills.
You
know
there
was
one
in
Florida
various
other
places.
I
I
As
well
to
convene
these
groups,
so
it's
a
it's
a
recognition
of
the
fact
that
yes,
the
Boston
Human
Rights
Commission
alone
cannot
tackle
this,
but
it's
a
recognition
that
this
problem
is
shared
and
that
we
need
to
find
a
convener
which,
in
our
minds,
could
be
the
Boston
Human
Rights
Commission,
to
convene
various
other
groups
and
and
paying
attention
to
the
groups
that
are
silent.
Oh
I
have
no
voice
in
this.
You
know,
so
you
can't
can't
just
be
a
law
enforcement
approach,
can't
just
be
a
public
official
approach.
I
It
has
to
be
many
many
different
other
groups
that
are
brought
in
and
and
I
think
that
this
is
the
right
platform
that
you
are
the
right
platform
for
convening,
at
least
some
of
those
conversations
asking
those
open-ended
questions.
You
know
what
do
we
do
about
this
who's
willing
to
participate
in
this?
What
are
you
willing
to
share?
What
can
you
bring
to
the
table?
You
know:
how
do
we
collaborate?
How
do
we,
you
know,
cross
different
boundaries,
organizational
boundaries,
legislative?
I
You
know
other
boundaries
to
address
the
problem
and
come
up
with
Creative
Solutions
that
you
know.
None
of
us
can
achieve
on
our
own,
so
I
think
that
to
me
is
at
least
the
starting
point
for
the
Boston
Human
Rights
Commission,
and
that
would
actually
provide
a
shining
example
to
other
smaller
cities
and
towns
in
the
region
and
and
the
leadership
you
know
and
and
UMass
Boston,
like
I
said
you
know,
since
we're
also
in
the
city.
This
is
our
own
backyard.
I
Although
we
are
doing
this
nationally,
we
too
are
committed
to
providing
whatever
support
we
can.
So
we
have
some
ideas
on
how
to
collect
some
of
these
data
Etc,
but
I
think
I.
Think
it's
creating
that
platform
and
creating
that
level
of
trust
that
the
Human
Rights
Commission
is
taking.
Some
sort
of
a
leadership
doesn't
mean
that
your
lead
from
the
front
you
can
lead
from
the
middle.
You
can
find
other
sort
of
leaders
who
are
willing
to
take
a
different
responsibilities.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
You
know
in
in
a
way
we
we
were
unaware
of
of
your
work,
but
in
a
way
the
commission
itself
had
began
had
started
that
same
process
and
and
and
and
and
had
already
decided
to
devote
this
year
to
look
into
the
problem
of
hate
in
Boston
and
in
a
presentation
we
had
in
December,
we
discussed
the
the
possibility
of
establishing
Partnerships
with
Community
organizations
and
agencies
to
look
into
this
Beyond
City
Hall
Beyond,
The,
Human,
Rights
Commission,
so
I
I.
Thank
you.
A
D
I'm
just
going
to
say
my
word:
you
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
and
I
appreciate
everything.
You
said
because
I
think
you're
exactly
right
as
a
Human
Rights
Commission
we
can
make
as
John
Lewis
would
say,
some
really
good
trouble
of
pushing
any
and
all
hate
racism
through
the
Forefront
and
making
that
noise
and
building
coalitions
and
and
not
I,
love.
How
you
said
not
we
can
do
it
in
the
middle.
We
don't
have
to
be
in
the
front
and
it
just
really
resonating
with
me,
like.
D
You
said
those
words,
because
it
becomes
really
really
important,
because
a
lot
of
these
these
hate
crimes
have
happened,
people
they
get
so
numb
to
it
that
they
don't
report
it
and
and
when
these,
when
these
microaggressions
and
all
these
different
things
are
happening,
they
just
accepted
a
big
in
part
of
the
region
and
and
and
I
think
I'm
just
getting
excited.
When
you
were
saying
that
because
I
was
like,
oh,
my
God
he's
exactly
right,
because
we
can
start
to
put
a
a
finger
on
the
pulse
of
something.
D
A
A
A
F
A
It's
unanimous
I
am
I'm
gonna
close.
The
meeting
is
adjourned
at
6
17.,
with
my
gratitude
and
that
of
the
commission
for
every
single
one
of
you,
you
will
hear
from
us
and
if
you
have
any
comments
or
anything
to
say
about
this
meeting
today,
any
thoughts
please
send
them
to
me
or
to
executive
director,
help
me
and
will
move
rapidly
to
answer
anything
or
to
respond
to
any
opportunity
of
collaboration,
etc,
etc,
etc.
Thank
you
very
much
and
see
you.
Thank
you.