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Description
City of Boston Human Rights Commission Public Meeting 9-30-20
A
With
the
commonwealth
of
massachusetts
executive
order,
which
has
been
to
suspend
certain
provisions
of
the
open
meeting
law,
we
are
conducting
this
meeting
online
to
ensure
public
access
to
the
discussions
of
the
boston
human
rights
commission.
The
public
may
access
this
call
through
telephone
or
and
video
conferencing
and
members
of
the
public
will
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
comments
at
the
end.
A
A
E
Sure,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
afternoon
again
to
all
the
commissioners.
It's
great
to
see
you
this
afternoon.
I'll,
be
brief,
I'm
hoping
that.
Obviously
you
had
a
chance
to
review
the
potential
projects
that
we
sent
out
and
I'm
happy
to
repeat
and
summarize
some
of
it
later
when
we
get
to
that
discussion.
E
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
discuss
those
and
hopefully
decide
in
some
direction
of
where
we
should
focus,
but
before
we
begin
with
that
discussion,
I'd
like
to
update
briefly
on
some
important
internal
matters
that
this
happened
with
us
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
discuss
this
further
next
week.
Next
meeting,
for
instance,
I'm
sure
you've
got
the
email.
E
The
staff
has
been
the
training,
some
trainings.
That
was
that's
required
by
the
city
of
boston,
relating
to
confidence
of
interest
in
procurement
process,
particularly
with
the
equity
issues
that
we're
dealing
with
in
the
city
now,
and
they
have
required
that
commissioners
attend
some
of
the
meetings.
I
know
some
of
you
already
signed
up.
E
If
you
have
any
questions,
if
you
need
help
with
signing
up,
let
me
know
I
also
want
to
mention
that
we've
drafted
a
couple
documents
that
hopefully
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
some
point
which
includes
the
mission
statement,
as
well
as
an
intake
form
and
an
intake
policy,
a
couple
things
that
we've
been
up
to
over
the
last
several
weeks
on
a
weekly
basis.
You
know
I
attend
the
health
and
the
next
health
inequities
task
force.
That's
one
of
the
potential
projects
that
we'll
discuss
later.
E
But
the
most
important
thing
that
I
want
to
leave
with
you
before
we
start
with
the
substantial
discussion
is
about
the
budget
and
about
staffing,
and
the
reason
I
decided
to
bring
it
up
today
is
because
yesterday
I
had
a
meeting,
I
we,
that
is
me
and
susan,
had
a
meeting
with
the
budget.
Analyst
and
obviously,
as
you
know,
we
are
in
the
second
quarter
of
the
fiscal
year
of
f5
2021
now
and
we
were
allocated
over
500
000,
that
majority
of
which
included
expenditures
for
or
personnel.
E
So
essentially,
I'm
talking
about
the
staffing
that
we
hopefully
can
do
to
build
capacity,
250
of
that
2,
000,
200,
250
000
of
that
500,
as
I
indicated
in
the
past,
was
part
of
this
major
initiative
by
mayor
walsh
to
real
locate
some
of
the
overtime
funding
for
bpd
into
into
other
departments.
To
do
community
focused
work,
in
fact
they
call
it
touch
and
serve
so
this
money,
250
000,
can
go
for
hiring
staff
that
will
have
direct
impact
in
the
community.
E
That
is
one
of
the
people
that
I'm
suggesting
we
rehire
is
an
education
and
outreach
coordinator,
as
well
as
constituent
services
coordinator,
which
will
focus
on
doing
intake.
So
those
are
two
people
that
I
think
we
should
move
forward
to
to
hire
and
initially
the
hud
other
part
of
the
funding.
That
already
was
there
at
250
000.
E
That
money
was
allocated
already
for
for
two
potential
staff
positions,
one
including
director
of
enforcement
and
investigation
and
one
additional
investigator.
That
was
our
location.
That
was
then
before
we
started
meeting.
Perhaps
we
can.
We
can
change
this
in
some
shape
or
form.
For
instance,
we
can
hire
a
research,
analyst
and
or
director
policy
to
help
us
do
the
work
that
we
want
to
do
as
we
start
talking
about
focusing
on
different
projects
that
will
take
time
and
an
effort
to
to
build
okay.
E
But
I
kind
of
just
wanted
to
flag
some
of
these
internal
operational
city
city
requirements
that
that
I
have
to
attend
to
before
we
get
to
the
bulk
of
the
meeting
which
is
to
discuss.
You
know,
as
madam
chair
alluded
to
the
you,
know,
the
initiatives
that
we
could
potentially
focus
on
for
the
fiscal
year.
Fy
2021,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
at
this
point.
I
kind
of
just
want
to.
D
C
E
Yeah
I,
before
the
commission
began
meeting.
As
you
know,
the
budget
process
of
the
city
starts
actually
the
previous
year
for
the
following
fiscal
year.
So
by
the
time
the
commissioners
all
of
you
were
on
board,
we
had,
I
had
already
drafted
a
budget
and
submitted
to
them,
so
I
do
have
that
draft
budget
that
that
I
submitted
to
them.
I
do
think,
though,
that
we
that
500
000
is
a
good
starting
point
for
us.
E
A
C
I
I
just
want
to
be
clear
in
terms
of
we're
asking
for
what
we
need
regardless.
If
we
hire
that
person
or
not.
Is
that
if
we
say
we
need
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
be
successful,
even
if
we
have
positions
and
stuff
that
we
would
like
to
have,
and
we
haven't
really
put
them
out,
but
I'm
we
haven't
really
drawn
them
out
fully
but
saying
that
these
are
the
things
we
need.
C
So
if
we're
saying
we
have
a
budget
of
eight
hundred
thousand
and
we
were
allocated
five
hundred
thousand,
you
know
of
making
sure
I
don't
it's
just
for
me.
When
we
talk
about
budget,
I
rather
ask
for
the
rainbow
gold
package
and
if
I
get
if
I
get
the
bronze
package,
but
everybody
knows
clearly
that
in
order
for
us
to
be
successful,
we
need
the
rainbow
gold
package
and
I
say
that
from
a
standpoint
of
strategy.
C
But
I
also
say
that,
from
the
standpoint
of
being
realistic
of
dealing
with
the
challenges
that
we
have
upfront,
that,
if
you
need
the
advocacy
from
the
commissioner
with
the
mayor,
because
that
becomes
important-
and
I
don't
want
to
make
it
an
issue-
but
I
just
I
just
don't-
want
us
to
set
ourselves
up
from
a
negative
versus
our
phone
positive
position.
That's
all.
D
E
Yes,
so
we
we,
we,
we,
the
funding,
can
be
switched
from
personnel
to
other
spaces
and
actually
there's
specific
funding
for
for
consultants
too,
actually,
which
I
think
is
about
twenty
thousand
dollars
that
I
put
in
there,
but
some
of
the
funding
from
personnel
can
be
switched
into
into
activities.
If
you
will-
or
you
know,
if
you
wanna
order
pamphlets,
if
you
name
it,
we
can
use
the
money
in
other
ways,
but
the
funding
that
came
from
bpd
is
limited
to
to
to
personnel
and
activities
that
directly
impact.
E
You
know,
for
instance,
we
can't
we
can't
decide
to
hire
an
administrator
for
this
position
for
this
right.
We
have
to
hire
someone
that's
going
to
touch
the
public,
you
understand,
so
that's
the
caveat
with
the
funding
that
came
from
bpd
for
250
000,
but
there
is
funding
that
we
can
do
for
consultants
and
other
other
matters.
If
we
need
to.
A
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
flexibility
because
this
budget
was
put
together
before
we
were
on
board.
Yes,
I
think
after
we
have
this
discussion
today,
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
terms
of
one.
What
we
want
to
do
with
the
money
and
two
we're
going
to
spend
it
and
three.
If
we
need
more
money
lee,
I
think
we
can
get
it
so
ben.
B
A
A
right,
I
didn't
even
know
we
had
dial-up
anymore.
People
have
dial-up,
but
apparently
we
do,
but
the
divide
is
not
only
that
there.
You
know
this.
Five
percent
of
people
in
boston
don't
have
access,
but
it's
not
only
access.
It's
the
speed
that
you
can
that
you
get
in
terms
of
broadband,
and
so,
if
you've
got
several
people
in
the
house
who
are
using
it.
A
So
it's
very
concerning
to
me
that
we
talk
about
it
as
if
okay,
we're
gonna
have
remote
learning
and
in
some
places
we
really
don't
have
it,
but
it's
not
just
education,
as
we've
talked
about
before
it's
healthcare
in
terms
of
telemedicine
and
the
mayor
talked
about,
and
I
think
it's
very
important
in
terms
of
access
for
people
in
recovery
that
they
can't
go
to
meetings,
but
they
can
do
it
online
and
obviously
in
terms
of
of
business,
in
supporting
business
for
online
commercial
reasons.
But
there
clearly
is
a
digital
divide.
A
B
D
C
C
Those
things
have
been
around
for
a
while,
and
I
think
it's
a
tremendous
opportunity
to
your
point
to
help
organize
support
and
to
bring
that
up
because
because
of
code
now
these
kids,
who
have
special
needs
or
or
just
their
parents,
just
don't-
have
access
to
the
internet.
They're
gonna
be
the
ones
suffering
from
that.
And
I
think
it's
a
tremendous
opportunity
for
us
to
to
put
that
on
the
top
again
and
if
there's
a
lot
of
information.
A
A
Yeah
I
it's
I
I
agree.
Anybody
else
want
to
comment
on
that,
because
I
I
think
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
we
need
to
have
really
good
data,
maybe
have
a
hearing
and
really
bring
this
out
into
the
public
into
the
light
and
show
that
you
know
people
think
the
digital
divide
is
gone.
Well,
it's
not,
and
it's
it's
living
and
well
in
boston
in
a
place
that
has
wealth,
has
technology
companies
up
the
yin
yang.
We
have
technology
companies
everywhere.
A
G
I
I
have
been
teaching
online
all
semester
long.
I
did
last
semester
in
addition
to
issues
of
access
to
the
internet
at
umass,
boston,
plenty
of
students,
don't
have
a
good
internet
or
internet
at
all.
We
find
students
unable
to
purchase
computers
that
so
there
is
a
a
program
that
allows
them
to
borrow
some
chromebooks.
D
G
G
None
of
them
could
attend
today
because
no
electricity
due
to
the
storm,
so
there
are
all
kinds
of
issues,
but
I
do
see
the
problem
with
access
to
the
internet.
There's
also
the
issue
of
several
people
in
an
apartment
who
are
taking
classes
and
parents
who
are
working,
so
that
is
also
an
issue
that
is
it's
very
complicated
to
deal
with
in
class.
A
A
C
A
A
And
I
think
it
could
be
if
we
do
this
well-
and
we
do
you
know,
have
some
data
have
a
hearing,
so
it
has
some
human
people
attached
to
it.
You
know
so
that
people
are
saying
you
know
we're
struggling.
I
have
three
children
who
are
doing
learning
remote
learning.
I
can't
make
this
work.
The
program
we're
talking
about,
I
think
you
might
be
talking
about
is
tech
goes
home,
which
is
a
non-profit
in
town
who's.
Doing
a
lot
of
this
work
because
they
don't
know
they
only
not
only
provide
chromebooks.
A
They
have
a
deal
with.
I
think
it's
verizon
that
for
120
a
year
you
can
get
basic
internet
and
they
do
online
training
people
so
there'd
be
somebody
else.
We
can
tap.
So
I
and
we
need
the
data,
but
we
need
humans
attached
to
it.
We
need
the
stories
right.
I
mean
that's
what
you
do.
You
gather
the
data
and
then
you
get
the
stories.
The
human
stories
about
how
difficult
it
is
to
work
work
at
home
and
to
provide
for
your
children
who
who
are
supposedly
learning
remotely.
A
I
know
last
spring
when
they
said
there
were
20
of
the
kids
who
dropped
out.
They
didn't
drop
out.
They
never
had
access
in
the
first
place.
Right
I
mean
so,
and
you
know
I
I
don't
know
what's
happening
now,
but
I
I
think
this
is
something
that
is
it's
about.
Don't
you
think
it's
about
time.
We've
like
brought
this
out.
C
A
Totally,
I
think,
we're
the
sort
of
right
people,
because
right
now,
it's
all
over
everybody's
got
their
hands
in
it.
You
know
bps
is
concerned
and
actually
housing
people
are
trying
to
put
it
in
in
housing
right
and
they've
been
trying
to
do
that
and
all
of
which
is
good,
but
nobody's
got
the
whole
picture
and
carolyn
chief
crockett
has
been
trying
to
gather
information
and
I've
been
talking
to
her,
but
I
think
we
really
need
the
data.
A
We
really
need
some
humans
to
talk
about,
need
to
have
a
hearing,
and
I
think
our
goal,
maybe
we
could
think
about
it
by
the
end
of
the
calendar
year.
We
have
a
plan
that
says
this
is
what
it's
going
to
cost.
This
is
what
it
needs
to
be
and
and
here's
the
timeline
enough
is
enough.
Let's
get
this
done
rather
than
talking
about
it
for
another
15
years.
B
I
think
it
is
very
timely
and
I
I
would
envision
a
multi-day
hearing
where
you
know
maybe
day.
One
of
it
is
the
stories
and
some
of
the
data
and
then
day
two
is
I'd
like
to
let's
get
some
people
from
verizon
and
xfinity
and
bring
them
on
in
and
have
them
react
to
the
data.
I
think
that
that
would
be.
I
think
that
that
would
make
for
a
very
compelling
thing
and
of
all
the
six
things
that
are
on
that
on
our
list.
B
If
you
wind
it
up
to
what
you're
saying
about
the
different
neighborhoods,
that's
worth
looking
into
that's
within
our
purview,
we
can
do
it
and
I
think
we
could
do
it
well,
and
none
of
these
other
people
are
doing
it.
The
closest
thing
that
we
have
in
massachusetts
is
the
massachusetts
broadband
institute
at
the
mass
tech
collaborative,
but
that's
not
about
us.
F
A
D
A
A
D
A
I
did
a
little.
I
did
a
little
research
myself
here
in
the
last
day,
but
but
there's
only
11
residential
providers,
but
there
are
37
providers,
but
but
there's
a
deal
to
be
made
here
and-
and
I
really
think
the
time
is
right
and
a
deal
can
be
made,
and
I
don't
think
it's
ten
years
from
now,
or
even
five
years
from
now
or
even
three
years
from
now.
I
think
this
could
be
fixed
and
I
think
the
time
is
now
so
do.
Do
we
have
an
agreement?
F
I
think
we
should
definitely
move
forward,
and
I
also
want
to
keep
have
have
us
keep
in
mind.
Maybe
those
providers
that
just
provide
to
businesses,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
businesses
that
are
going
to
be
hurting,
especially
businesses.
The
small
businesses
in
in
especially
business
businesses,
a
minority-owned
businesses,
and
they
should
be
held
accountable
too.
If
they're
not
providing
access
in
certain
neighborhoods.
A
That
that's
that's
a
really
good
point.
That
is
a
really
good
point,
because
those
businesses
happen
to
be
in
mataban
roxbury
right,
exactly
yeah,
okay,
so
I
I
don't
think
we
need
a
motion,
but
I
just
like
a
sense
of
the
group,
or
do
we
have
agreement
of
the
seven
commissioners
that
we
go
ahead?
Do
I
hear
you
I'm
for
it?
Yes,
yes,.
G
G
B
A
Okay,
all
right
so
good.
I
feel
good
about
that.
I
think
you
know.
I
think
we
need
to
get
something
under
our
belt
here
and
this,
I
think
ben.
As
you
said,
this
seems
like
really
an
appropriate
thing
for
us
to
do
is
to
get
the
data
and
then
ask
the
questions
and
bring
some
light
onto
it
and
see
what
the
what
the
plan
is.
A
I
know
that
the
fair
housing
folks
are
following
up
on
the
suffolk
study
that
showed
all
the
discrimination
in
the
city.
Though
it's
an
interesting
piece.
Suffolk
said
they
were
using
it
for
educational
purposes.
So
now
fair
housing
is
going
back,
paying
suffolk
to
redo
it
for
their
purposes,
but
there
was
a
paid
in
the
boston
magazine.
A
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
which
is
I
know,
and
I
I
know
and
you're
well
aware
of
that,
but
the
the
issue
here
is
is,
is,
I
think
twofold?
It's
one
is
the
rent
moratorium
and
the
other
is
the
mortgage
or
moratorium
is,
is
you
know
it?
The
landlords
also
have
the
problem,
some
of
these
small
landlords,
who
have
a
mortgage
moratorium
they're
having
they're
having
the
same
kind
of
problem,
and
you
know,
and
if
we're
the
we
now
are
the
state
with
second
highest
unemployment
rate
as
opposed
to
the
first.
A
We
fell
out
of
the
first
now
we're
second,
but
I'm
just
wondering
about.
If
there's
any
plan,
and
maybe
ivandro
and
susan,
maybe
you
could
check
around
the
city
and
see
if
there
is
anybody
looking
at
this,
because
this
is
going
to
have
a
disparate
impact
on
black
and
brown
people.
There's
no
question
here
when
this
housing
rent
moratorium
is
over,
and
I
can
just
see
that
I
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
to
people
as
they
are
evicted.
A
Where
are
they
going
and
they
don't
have
jobs
and
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
landlords
in
terms
of
foreclosures,
I
don't
know
I
mean,
I
suppose
it
will
make
a
difference
in
terms
of
what
happens
on
the
federal
level
in
terms
of
relief
and
what
what's
done
with
the
congress
and
what
happens
with
the
election.
But
it
is
something
that
I
would
hope
that
the
state
and
the
city
are
looking
at.
I
assume
someone
looking
at
it.
Anybody
here
know
anything
about
that
and
you
would
be
a
good
person
to
know
so.
F
I
know
at
the
city
of
boston,
the
housing
housing
stability.
Looking
at
that,
I
I
also
know
that,
on
the
state
level,
the
state
put
in
an
extra
15
million
into
the
iraf
program
which
helps
pay
past
due
rent
for
families
to
stabilize
them.
So
they
do
not
get
evicted
and
they
also
started
a
new
program
that
people
that
will
pay
mortgages
for
people
so
that
they
won't
lose
their
housing.
But
there
is
not
enough
money
to
cover
everyone.
F
If
this
really
happens
and
the
the
federal
moratorium
is
probably
going
to
lose
in
court
and
will
be
overturned,
but
in
the
state
level
charlie
baker
has
shown
he
is
going
to
let
the
it
run
out
it's.
He
said
that
yes,
so
there
I
don't
know
how
how
many
evictions
the
court
can
handle
at
once.
So
we
might
not
see
just
because
the
court
can't
handle
them.
F
We
might
not
see
tons
of
people
being
evicted
all
at
the
same
time,
but
there
will
be
many
people
that
will
be
evicted
and
there's
not
enough
money
in
the
state
coffers
to
to
cover
people's
rent,
and
I
agree,
the
the
mortgage
is
also
a
problem
because
most
of
we
have
10
000
vouchers
and
they're
all
mo
most
of
our
landlords
are
mom-and-pop
landlords,
they
own
a
triple
decker
and
they
have
a
unit
one
unit
section.
Eight
one
unit
is,
is
you
know,
market
rate?
A
So
this
is
a
huge
problem,
maybe
bigger
than
us,
but
what
I
what
I
did
do
is
I
I
called
the
woman
who
wrote
the
piece
for
the
boston
globe.
She
sent
me
to
the
person
who
did
all
the
data
and
he's
going
to
send
me
the
boston
data
I
so
I
will
share
that.
He
works
for
a
firm
but
he's
the
pro
bono
person
for
this
finance
firm
and
then
I
think
maybe
we
should
share
it
with
somebody
in
the
city.
F
And
chapa
is
working
very
hard
on
this
issue
chapters
you
know
has
a
lot
of
members,
including
us,
and
up
and
down
the
cdc's,
and
everybody
is
well
aware
and
trying
to
work
on
this
and
and
frankly,
we're
afraid
that
we're
they're
not
going
to
have
the
money
at
the
state
level.
Unless
the
feds
pass
a
stimulus
package
that
has
money
in
there
for
it,
they
did
give
us
some
money,
but
not
a
lot.
A
So
I
will
give
you
the
information
and
the
person
who's
doing
this,
because
he's
going
to
send
me
the
massachusetts
information
and
the
boston
information
is.
This:
is
data
that
they're
projecting
the
impact
it
will
have
in
the
state
and
the
city
and
the
disparate
impact
on
black
and
brown
people.
So
when
I
get
that,
I
will
give
it
to
you
great
and
you
will
fix
it.
E
A
The
analysis
was
done
by
neil
and
he
he's
at
a
firm
called
stout,
but
he's
the
pro
bono
guy.
So
he
just
said:
he'll
do
this
for
us
and
send
it
to
us-
and
I
said
fine
so
he's
going
to
send
us
all
the
information
and
and
then
I
think,
ivandra
I'll,
give
it
we'll
give
it
to
ann
and
then
ivander.
We
can
check
around
the
city
and
see
if
anybody
else
is
looking
at
this.
E
I
guess
to
some
extent
you
know
I
guess,
when
we
get
the
data,
we'll
figure
out
what
the
angle
could
be,
but
when
I
read
it
it
did
look
to
me
that
it
was
state
and
congress
and
federal
issues.
Right
now.
I
wasn't
clear
in
terms
of
where
we
could
play
a
role,
but
maybe
the
data
can
help
guide
us
some.
F
F
A
F
A
E
A
E
I
I've
tried
to.
Unfortunately
I
I
haven't
been
able
to
confirm,
but
my
sense
again,
particularly
because
I've
attended
some
of
these
meetings
is
that
they
are
in
the
drafting
mode
right
now,
it's
not
it's
not
released.
In
fact
they
have.
The
meetings
have
been
been
been
led.
If
you
will,
by
a
consultant
talking
about
consultants
right
that.
D
E
Hired
to
help
them
frame
their
their
conversation,
but
you
know
this.
One
thing
that
I
did
realize
in
that
conversation
is
one
that
obviously
they
are
primarily
all
of
them
are
volunteer
leaders
of
the
community
of
city
of
boston
and
they're,
looking
to
see
figure
out
how
they
can
stay
engaged
with
the
city
long
term,
particularly
how
to
enforce
some
of
their
recommendations,
and
I
thought
that
perhaps
we
can
step
in
in
some
shape
or
form,
particularly
because
we
have
subpoena
powers
and
we
can
have
on
going
here
into
some
of
these
issues.
A
A
A
D
A
B
The
the
health
task
force
will
invariably
be
something
that
is
kind
of
in
our
arena,
because
it
is
about
desperate
impacts
of
covid,
the
police,
one.
I
I
wonder
how
much
of
it
is
going
to
be
about
use
of
force
and
body
cameras
and
things
that
are
less
about
how
the
police
are
deployed
to
particular
neighborhoods
and
more
about
the
mechanics
of
policing,
in
which
case
I
don't
know
that
that's
really
in
our
wheelhouse,
but
I
think
we.
D
I
disagree
completely.
I
think
that
when
we
talk
about
human
rights,
the
rights
to
be
able
to
not
fear
the
police
should
be
a
basic
human
right
to
not
fear
that
you're
going
to
be
a
victim
of
the
police
simply
because
of
the
color
of
your
skin
should
be
a
basic
human
right,
and
if
we
don't,
I
don't
what
other
group
would
look
at
that?
B
C
C
The
fear
that
the
black
community
has
and
what
people
are
doing
and
taking
for
granted.
So
I
think
that's
excellent
for
the
house
piece,
but
also
the
police
piece
is
huge.
I
mean
it's
a
lot
and
clearly
understand
we're
going
to
have
to
pick
and
choose
exactly
where
we're
going
to
go,
because
just
the
police
alone
alone,
if
we're
going
to
be
effective
at
any
level,
it's
going
to
it's
going
to
consume
a
lot
of
time.
C
D
C
F
D
G
E
Yeah,
if
I
may
add
briefly,
there
is
the
report.
As
chairwoman
mentioned
is
17
pages
and
we
only
grab
just
the
summaries
to
provide
to
you,
so
we
should
dive
more
into
it,
but
there's,
for
instance,
there's
portions
of
it
that
talk
about
you
know
change
within
the
fio
system,
which
is
essentially
when
the
police
stop
people
in
the
street
and
nfio
just
get
the
information
and
keep
it
in
the
system.
There's
been
data
suggesting
that
you
know
that's
desperately
impacting
african-american
men,
particularly
the
neighborhoods
of
city
of
boston.
E
So
there
is
an
angle
there.
I
think
there
is
opportunity
there,
but
it's
it's
not
clear
to
me
as
well
how
in
a
sense,
unless
we
obviously
we
could
play
an
over
sort
of
like
a
roll
up
here
to
kind
of
look
at
all
the
different
recommendations
that
they
make
and
ultimately
make
and
sort
of
help
push
that
these
recommendations
can
can
can
can
change.
You
know
can
actually
happen
as
as
margaret
alluded
to
earlier.
Sometimes
they
don't
so
that's
one
role,
but
there's
also
specific
spaces
that
we
can
go.
C
C
In
terms
of
you
know,
dispatching
police
officers
which
which
group
of
people
are
going,
I
mean
there's
so
much
when
you're
talking
about
the
police,
that
that
one
has
a
direct
impact
on
the
other,
and
it's
something
that
we're
going
to
look
at.
It's
going
to
open
up
a
lot
of
different
things,
socially
and
politically.
A
I
I've
been
in
this
position
before,
because
that
was
when
I
was
a
young
lawyer.
That's
was
my
main
thing
was
suing
police
department,
so
I
know
what
it's
like
to
be
popular
in
a
city
where
you're
suing
the
police
departments
so
watch
while
you're
driving
lee
there.
So
since
we're
on
we're
being,
you
know,
we're
we're
sort
of
videoing
this
everywhere,
so
we
won't
say
where
you
are
on
the
road.
A
So
it's
okay,
the
here's,
what
I
will
say
I
I
do
think
that
I
don't
know
what
role,
but
I
think
all
of
us
feel
at
least
I
think
I
feel
I
should
speak
for
myself-
that
people
put
in
a
lot
of
work,
a
lot
of
good
people
and
they
will
go
away
this
task
force
on
the
police.
They
will
go
away
and
I
I
do
think
that
we
should
take
some
responsibility
to
keep
this
on
the
front
burner
in
terms
of
what
recommendations
they
made.
A
They
may
not
all
be
in
our
bailiwick,
but
this
task
force
came
about
because
of
race,
that's
where
it
came
from
it
didn't
just
spring
up
because
gee,
I
think,
let's
look
at
the
police,
it
came
up
because
black
men
were
being
shot,
killed
or
killed,
and
because
of
systematic
racism,
and
that's
where
it
came
from.
It
came
from
the
times
that
we
are
in,
and
so
it
seems
to
me
and
half
of
the
citizen
review
boards
in
the
country
for
police
are
run
out
of
the
human
rights
commissions,
half.
E
So
then,
so
then,
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
that.
Obviously,
as
soon
as
that
comes
out,
we'll
we'll
circulate
it
amongst
all
of
you
and
and
try
to
put
a
plan
together
to
get
in
front
of
it
I
mean.
Obviously
the
idea
is
that
they
would
submit
the
final
report
to
the
mayor,
and
the
mayor
will
then
make
changes
right
and
implement.
A
To
parcel
it
out-
and
you
know
I
don't
know
exactly
what
he's
gonna
do-
I'm
not
sure
he
knows
what
he's
gonna
do
yet
because,
and
I
I've
talked
to
carolyn
about
this
crockett
a
little
bit.
You
know
when
it's
done.
You
know
both
of
these
task
forces
I'll
talk
to
her
about,
and
we
ought
to
all
talk
about
it
again,
but
I
think
both
of
them.
We
ought
to
keep
our
eye
out.
A
There's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
and
I
think
we
ought
to
play
our
role
being
a
you
know,
a
place
where
they
sit,
so
they
don't
get
lost
and
and
see
what
role
we
ought
to
play.
That's
my
suggestion,
and
maybe
it's
a
little
role.
Maybe
it's
a
big
role.
Maybe
it's
just
that
we
dust
them
off,
so
they
don't
get
lost,
but
at
least
they
won't
get
lost,
at
least
we'll
have
them,
and
we
know
that
we'll
have
responsibilities.
So
they're
not
forgotten
is
that
fair.
G
E
The
only
one
well,
it
looks
like
to
be
the
immigrant
community
focused
issue
and
the
transgender
community.
Those
are
the
two
left
and
obviously
people.
This
wasn't
meant
to
be
exhaustive.
So
if
there's
anything
else,
this
would
be
opportunity
to
discuss
as
well
but
which
one
would
you
prefer
to
discuss
next.
G
G
It's
very
easy
to
intimidate
new
americans
very,
very
easy
to
intimidate
them
to
to
not
to
vote
so
I
have
gone
ahead
and
volunteered
to
be
one
of
the
voting
monitors
in
the
city
of
boston
in
this
election,
and
I
don't
know
if
there
is
anything
that
we
we
should
do
or
can
do.
But
I
think
there
is
a
there
is
a
need
for
a
message
to
be
sent
around
the
city
of
boston.
G
There
is
something
the
city
of
boston
could
do
is
actually
in
today's
paper
we
need
more
mailboxes
yeah
for
el
early
voting
yeah.
There
was
only
one
apparently
in
the
in
the
preliminary
elections
we
need
more
and
we
need
them
in
the
communities
where
people
are
working
and
can't
be
going
anywhere.
We
need
them
where
the
elderly
leave.
So
if
we
could
push
the
mayor
or
whoever
in
the
city
of
boston,
to
start
planning.
For
that,
that
would
be
great.
F
I
don't
know
if
we
would
also
ever
use
ourselves
as
a
bully
pulpit
like
the
safe
communities
act.
That
is
also
up
at
the
state
house,
which
would
you
know,
focuses
on
police
and
the
courts
in
immigrant
enforcement.
I
don't
know
if
we
could
ever
just
make
statements
about
legislation
that
that's
up
there.
That's
that
would
have
a
real
impact
on
on
on
people's
lives.
A
E
Perhaps
I
can
help
because
I
work
on
on
it
before
essentially
the
safe
communities
act
without
all
the
details,
it's
it's
what
we
call
in
the
city,
the
trust
act
that
the
city
as
a
as
an
ordinance,
essentially
it
limits
or
prohibits
the
use
of
local
and
state.
Obviously,
when
we
talk
about
on
beacon
hill
state
agencies
and
state
law
enforcement
agencies
from
participating
and
collaborating
and
sharing
information
with
ice,
so
this
is
pretty
much
the
same.
Space
of
police,
local
law
enforcement,
enforcing
ice
sort
of
holds.
A
E
E
The
at
least
in
terms
of
what
I
wrote
here
was
that
essentially,
we
could
do
more
of
an
advocacy
piece
and
an
education
piece
to
the
community
about
what
the
trust
act
locally
is
right
in
in
the
hopes
that
we
engage
essentially
the
communities
that
their
channels
are,
but
to
some
extent
they
passed
this
bill.
If
you
will
right
it's
the
law
of
the
land
and
we
know
first,
we
have
some
issues
with
it.
E
Unfortunately,
you
know
what
within
bpd,
particularly
with
some
information
being
shared,
that
shouldn't
be
shared,
but
more
so
than
that
is
how
does
do
the
immigrant
communities
know
what
their
rights
are
under
this?
So
that's
where
the
angle
for
that
particularly
is,
but
but
the
trust
that
to
answer
your
question,
the
trust,
the
the
safe
communities
act
at
the
state
is
the
trust
act
in
in
the
city,
ordinance.
A
So
my
sort
of
sense
is,
you
know
our
our
role
is
the
boston
human
rights
commission
and-
and
I
would
think
our
first
sort
of
responsibility
would
be
to
make
sure
that
immigrants
in
our
city
understand
their
rights
under
the
trust
act
and
and
that
the
trust
act
is
enforced
in
our
city,
for
instance.
That-
and
I
think
it
is
true
now
under
brenda
concilius
the
superintendent.
A
She's
made
that
clear
since
she
arrived.
So
you
know
issues
like
that,
and
if
there
are
other
issues
like
that,
I
I
I
are
other
things
that
we
should
be
doing
in
terms
of
education
and
information,
but
I
I
think
you're.
It
is
absolutely
true
in
terms
of
fear
whether
people
are
documented
or
undocumented.
G
So
families
are
split.
There
is
another
group
of
people,
immigrants
who
are
might
be
getting
closer
to
a
not
very
good
point.
There
are
tps
transitional
there.
There
are
people
who
have
transitional
protection,
usually
for
countries
that
were
war-torn
etc
and
the
current
person
in
the
white
house
it's
trying
to
stop
that
program
right.
A
programming
includes
a
lot
of
children.
A
So
let
me
ask
it,
and
I
I
I
would
say,
with
giuseppe
there
are
things
that
we
could
do
with
him.
That
would
provide
what
I
know
he
does
a
a
weekly
sort
of
information
education
online
program.
I
think
we
should
ask
if
there
is,
if
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
to
to
support
him
or
other
things
that
we
can
do
that
he's
not
doing
that
would
bring
information
and
education
to
the
immigrants
in
our
city
that
he
thinks
would
be
helpful.
E
E
Ee,
as
you
mentioned,
he
has
a
weekly
webinar,
something
that
we
could
do.
For
instance,
as
you
said,
was
maybe
coming
in
there
20
minutes
to
talk
to
those
non-profit
organizations
about
what
this
looks
like
and
hear
from
them.
For
instance,
this
looks
like
that
is
as
in
what
is
the
trust
act
says.
What
is
it
that
the
bps
is
putting
out
now?
What
is
so?
The
message
is
clear
to
them
and
get
from
them.
E
What
else
we
can
do
to
get
the
message
to
to
other
people
in
in
the
immigrant
communities
right
and
and
to
go
back,
for
instance,
to
something
that
I
think
was
in
that
michigan
earlier
was
we
some
of
the
funding
could
be
shifted
towards
this.
If
we
want
to
the
campaign,
whether
is
to
use,
for
instance,
a
local
ethnic
media,
sometimes
unknown,
or
go
on
the
radio
or
or
put
some
pamphlets
together
about
this,
you
name
it
that
that
costs
funding.
A
E
But
I
do.
I
believe
that
this
educating
the
public
on
this
space
is
not
one
that
they've
taken
right
now.
They
are
doing,
particularly
in
light
of
covet
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
the
discussion
on
discussing
on
the
on
the
webinar
at
the
thick
of
it
was
about.
You
know
the
rental
relief,
the
other
benefits
that
they
can
access,
but
the
specific
focus
on
trust
act
is
not
one
that
he's
doing
right
now.
This
is
based
on
compensation
that
we
had.
D
E
Right
one
of
the
things
that
is,
I'm
sure
all
of
you
aware
of,
is
the
reason
why
one
of
the
key
reasons
why
this
commission
was
created
back
in
the
80s
was
because
gay
community
at
that
point,
mainly
gay
and
lesbians,
did
not
have
you
know.
Obviously,
nowadays
we
have
the
laws
in
that
are
much
better
than
before.
E
They
didn't
have
a
place
to
go
to
back.
Then,
okay,
they
didn't
exist.
You
know
people
couldn't
get
married
people,
they
were
attacks
against
against
gay
and
lesbians,
particularly
80s
dealing
with
the
with
the
aids
epidemic.
They
were
blamed
and
all
of
these
things,
so
they
they
were
being
attacked
on
a
daily
basis.
E
There's
not
a
place
for
them
to
go
just
like
the
gay
and
lesbians
do
not
have
a
place
for
them
to
go
to
to
greet
to
to
get
the
grievances
out
to
be
heard
to
to
help
protect
them.
It
sounds
to
me
right
now
that
they're
in
the
city
of
boston,
particularly
within
the
city
of
boston
and
in
the
state
that
there's
not
a
place
for
them
to
be,
you
know,
to
be
included
to
be
protected
from
violence.
E
So
you
know,
I
thought
that
this
is
a
space
that,
because
it's
wide
open,
we
can
find
something
potentially
to
do
here
to
help.
You
know
one
of
the
communities
that
obviously
is
a
protected
class
under
our
ordinance,
which
you
know,
protects
people's
gender
identity,
as
you
know,
does
that
make
sense.
G
D
B
A
That,
actually
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
the
state
has
done
well,
that
desi
has
done
well
and
started
earlier
than
almost
anybody
else.
I
have
to
say
it's
you
know
when
I
was
on
the
deci
board.
I
I
have
to
I
admired
that
they
were
out
there
this
early,
and
I
remember
sitting
on
when
I
was
on
the
board.
A
They
had
a
hearing
on
transgender
youth
and
what
the
rules
were
around
it
and
expectations,
and
I
think
it
was
really
one
of
the
first
in
the
country
to
to
you
know,
require
training
in
all
the
school
systems.
I
don't
know
where
it
is
now,
but
I
what
I
would
say
of
android
is
is
why
don't
you
touch
base
with
leaders
in
this
community.
D
A
C
The
majority
of
it
is
has
been
focused
on
the
destruction
of
black
males,
homicides,
murders
and
a
lot
of
it's
based
solely
on
racism
and
human
rights,
and
I
think
we
would
be
remiss
if
we
did
not
try
to
put
something
together
to
really
focus
on
that,
because
there's
so
much
data
and
history
since
the
beginning
of
slavery,
that
the
focus
has
been
on
the
destruction
of
black
males
in
america,
and
I
think
it
could
be
an
opportunity
for
us,
because
no
one
else
is
talking
about
it.
Don't
ask
me
why.
C
I
think
we
would
be
remiss
if
we
did
not
try
to
focus
at
some
level
on
how
how
the
destruction
of
black
males
have
been,
and
it's
been
very
focused,
very,
very
focused,
and
just
through
the
healing
process
and
developing
healing
processes
with
a
number
of
different
groups
that
are
in
and
around
boston
and
within
the
state,
but
I
think,
being
a
human
rights
commission.
I
think
we
would
be
remiss
if
we
did
not
try
to
put
something
together:
focus
solely
on
blackmail.
A
C
I
I
could
see
us
bringing
it
to
the
for.
I
can
see
us
bringing
it
to
the
forefront
and
having
a
discussion
and
bringing
it
to
life
to
let
people
know
and
see.
What's
been
going
on,
I
mean
there's
tons
of
data
out
there.
The
robert
wood
johnson
foundation
did
a
piece
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
out
there.
C
It's
just
a
matter
of
gathering
that
stuff
and
then
being
able
to
present
it,
especially
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
from
like
the
destruction
of
black
boys
by
kundufu,
who
wrote
a
series
of
different
books
on
black
males
and
the
destruction
of
black
males.
I
mean
there's
stuff
out
there.
It's
just
a
matter
of
being
able
to
bring
it
up
and
into
the
light
again.
C
A
C
D
A
A
C
We
can
start
to
demand
that
there's
specific
programs
around
healing
and
when
I
talk
about
healing
I'm
talking
about
the
trauma
that
black
males
have
to
deal
with
on
a
daily
basis
in
terms
of
seeing
their
image
being
either
murdered
or
marginalized.
I
mean
everyone
has
stories.
Every
every
black
male
has
a
story
of
of
of
direct
and
focused
racism
and
marginalization
and.
D
B
C
Data
in
terms
of
young
black
males
being
being
thrown
into
special
edge
every
time
they
move
and
that
stock
that's
got
a
history
or
a
pattern
that
follows
them
all
the
way
until
adulthood.
I
mean,
as
you
may
be
aware.
If
I
know
I
know,
the
judges
is
that
you
know
private
prisons.
They
they
look
at
the
failure
of
of
third
graders
to
build
more
prisons.
Oh.
C
A
Sort
of
sounds
like
truth
and
reconciliation
around
black
men.
I
mean
you
know,
sort
of
bringing
forward.
So
people
understand,
I
don't
you
know
it.
I
I
I
you
know,
I'm
I'm
open,
obviously,
and
I
just
want
something
to
become
of
it.
I
would
like
to
see
something
become
a
bit
in
terms
of
making
it
better,
not
just
knowing
more
about
it.
You
know.
C
Oh
no,
I
I
agree,
I
mean
I
guess
this
would
be
we're
starting
a
movement
just
like
they
did
for
domestic
violence
and
rape
crisis
centers.
I
would
love
to
have
a
male
center
that
really
talks
about
how
to
deal
with
the
trauma
what's
going
on
and
also
alerting
people
of
what
how
they
have
an
impact
on
black
men
in
america
or
black
men
in
massachusetts.
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
at
the
early
days
of
of
as
overseeing
rape
crisis
centers
for
the
state.
C
In
the
early
days
of
that
movement,
there
was
a
movement
and
people
brought
it
to
light,
and
then
then
they
were
able
to
start
to
identify.
How
can
we
help
and
support
women
who
have
been
abused
and
how
what's
the
different
support
systems
that
we
can
put
in
place?
So
when
we
talk
about
what
can
we
do?
It
can
start
to
be
the
beginning
of
healing
of
developing
mechanisms
to
help
black
men
in
america,
heal
from
the
atrocities
that
have
happened
from
slavery,
jim
crow,
modern-day
america,.
A
C
B
G
G
A
D
A
A
D
A
A
I
know,
and
now
that's
coming
right,
that's
right!
So
we
we
could
spend
a
lot
of
time
trucking
among
ourselves
about
this
issue.
I
would
suggest
ivandra,
why
don't
you
you
talk
to
lee
about
this,
see
what
who
we
can
talk
to?
What
this
would
look
like,
and
I
mean
it's
clearly
a
huge
issue
for
men.
There's
no
question
about
it
and
if
we
can
play
a
role,
I
would
be
happy
to
to
be
the
commission
who
hosts
that
or
maybe
host
it
with
someone
some
other
body.
A
D
C
D
C
A
And
how
can
we
let
people?
How
can
we,
as
a
commission,
educate
people
in
boston
in
terms
of
what's
happening
in
boston
with
black
boys
and
young
men
and
men?
If
we
put
it
that
way,
I
think
it
seems
a
little
more
doable
that
maybe
people
need
to
understand
that
this
is
not
just
some
issue
out
there.
This
is
an
issue
for
us.
A
B
Yeah,
so
I
mean
one
mechanism
for
doing
this,
and
this
sort
of
goes
full
circle
back
to
what
evangel
was
saying
about
budgets
and
hiring
plans
is
if,
if
you
create
a
full-time
position,
that
is
essentially
an
event
planner
and
you
have
the
boston
human
rights
commission
every
year
hosts
a
full
day
or
multi-day
symposium
on
a
particular
issue.
To
raise
awareness
of
that
issue,
you
bring
in
speakers,
you
have
people
tell
their
stories.
A
B
A
F
It
definitely
you
know
when,
when
the
mayor,
I
think,
has
only
hosted
two
conversations
about
racism
in
the
city
and
they
were
very
powerful
events.
I
went
to
both
of
them
and
I
think
that
you
know
we
have
to
keep
the
conversation
going
and
you're
right.
If
we
focus
on
one
aspect,
it
could
make
a
big
difference.
A
A
When
they're
available
and
see
what
makes
sense
and
our
responsibility
will
be,
we
will
hold
those
and
we
will
be.
Our
job
will
be
responsible
if
they
don't
get
lost
today,
stay
relevant
to
our
city
and
we
will
take
up
pieces
of
them
that
make
sense
to
our
mandate
and
maybe
if
it
makes
sense,
as
a
group
or
some
of
us
meet
with
some
members
of
our
leadership
of
the
police
task
force.
If,
after
we
read
it,
if
it
makes
sense,
we
will
look
at
the
possibility
of
doing
a
whatever.
A
A
A
A
A
E
E
E
A
G
B
A
A
B
It
all
right,
you're
welcome
one
other
question
I
had
just
thinking
about
formalities
is
in
terms
of
scheduling,
evandro,
I
mean
you've
heard
kind
of
a
vision
of
what
this
internet
access
hearing
might
look
like.
Yes,
and
if
you
hire
someone
who's
like
a
constituent
services,
community
outreach
person.
I
expect
that
that
person
is
part
of
their
ordinary
job.
Duties
can
find
us
bodies
to
tell
stories,
but
it
seems
to
me
that,
in
order
to
really
present
data
in
a
really
good
way,
that's
not
somebody.
B
You
hire
that's
like
a
consultant
that
you
find-
and
I
assume
I
don't
know
anything
about
city
procurements,
but
I
assume
that,
like
there's
not
going
to
be
some
standing
contract
with
a
person
that
there's
going
to
have
to
be
an
rfp
and
you're
going
to
have
to
you
know
procure
that
person
is
that
going
to
require
commission
approval
such
that
we
need
to
have
a
meeting
in
relatively
short
order
to
give
you
that
approval.
Or
do
you
not
know
that
or
I
I'm
not.
E
But
obviously
you
know
the
authorization
could
be
something
that
we
do
now
and
then
I
can
start
with
the
our
fee
process,
which
is
different
depending
if
it's
ten
thousand
dollars
or
more.
So
I
need
to
do
fur
in
fact
we're
getting
training
on
that
right
now,
yeah,
particularly
in
light
of
the
equity
and
inclusion
issues
that
the
city
is
pushing.
B
E
E
Right
so
we
can
hire
someone
full-time
to
do
that.
The
constitutional
services
were
more
focused
on
like
intake
and
helping
people
that
come
in
through
the
door,
with
issues
and
kind
of
direct
them
the
right
place.
The
the
data
person
will
be
a
data
person
driven
more
towards
looking
at
all
these
different,
as
we
collect
more
information
to
look
at
it
and
gather
information.
Maybe
we
do
a
survey
on
something
you
know.
Maybe
we
do
a
short
internal
study
that
will
be
in
the
purview
of
this
person.
Also.
A
A
A
Who
will
do
this
kind
of
thing,
analysis
on
certain
kinds
of
projects,
and
these
may
kind
of
be
the
kind
of
things
that
they
would
do
because
they're
equity
projects?
Let
me
talk
to
her
about
it,
because
you
know
this
way.
You
get
high
level
and
quickly
and
they'll
still
have
different
people
who
have
different
skills
on
different
projects.
D
E
A
A
D
E
So
that's
where
I'm
trying
to
get
us
to
think
about
not
just
these
projects
but
how
we've
getting
building
base
building
towards
the
future.
Yes,
I
mean
susan
is
doing
some
of
the
intake
now
the
little
that
we're
getting,
but
as
we're
getting
off
the
as
we
can
hopefully
get
a
website
up,
get
it
get
a
get
a
office
building
space.
You
know
someone
comes
in
and
increase
that
we
get,
I'm
not
sure
we
we
wanted
the
focus
on
that,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
build
a
team
that
can
do
things.
E
Obviously,
we
can't
have
people
with
different,
no
skills,
doing
something
that
shouldn't
be
doing,
but
depending
on
where
we're
going,
we
can
kind
of
pigeonhole
and
change
change
direction
in
terms
of
how
people
ultimately
fit,
but
I
do
think
that
an
intake
person,
constitutional
service
person
focus
long
term
will
be
an
added
benefit,
particularly
as
we
start
getting
information
out
there
that
we're
here
and
we're
getting
calls
on
daily
basis
that
can
they
can
adequately.
You
know,
help
people,
but
I've
said
enough
on
this
today.
A
Yes,
so
the
public
will
now
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
provide
public
comment
to
do
so.
Please
raise
your
hand
or
type
your
question
in
the
chat
in
the
application
via
the
zoom
meeting
platform.
If
you
are
calling
in
and
cannot
use
the
platform,
you
can
press
nine
on
your
phone
and
raise
your
hand
or
can
send
your
question
to
staff
via
email
at
susan.hemly.
E
And
just
to
add
a
little
bit
to
it
feel
free
to
send
your
information
email
us
and
we
have.
We
have
started
to
create
a
small
email
blasts,
essentially
the
people
to
just
let
them
know
that
we're
doing
the
the
doing
these
meetings.
So
we
certainly
probably
will
put
that
in
those
share
with
people
just
say:
listen,
we're
hiring!
You
know,
send
us
the
candidates
this
way,
so
we'll
probably
share
it
through
through
that
main
pool
of
people
that
we
have
already
as
well.