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Description
Licensing Board Emergency Hearing for South Boston/Seaport - 10-21-20
A
Room
good
afternoon,
this
is
an
emergency
informational
hearing
before
the
licensing
board
for
the
city
of
boston
for
all
south
boston
and
seaport
licensees
holding
an
alcoholic
beverages
license.
Today's
hearing
is
in
partnership
with
the
mayor's
office
of
health
and
human
services,
boston,
boston,
public
instructional
services
department.
Again
as
a
reminder,
unless
you
are
presenting
or
asking
a
question,
please
mute
yourself
as
today's
hearing
is
mandatory.
Please
utilize
the
chat
function
to
provide
your
name,
the
licensee's
name,
the
licensee
address
and
your
title
as
it
relates
to
the
establishment.
A
If
you
cannot
utilize
the
chat
function,
please
email,
licensingboard,
boston.gov.
With
this
information,
today's
hearing
is
being
conducted
pursuant
to
certain
temporary
amendments
to
the
open
meeting
law.
That
is
what
allows
us
to
meet.
Virtually
the
board
will
record
this
hearing
and
will
post
it
on
the
city's
website.
A
B
Thank
you,
leslie,
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
every
one
of
our
licensees
who's
taken
the
time
to
join
us
today,
and
I'd
like
to
thank
councilor
flynn
who's
with
us
today
and
introduce
my
fellow
commissioners
liam
curran
and
kiana
saxon.
I'd
also
like
to
introduce
haley
dillon
from
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
we're
also
joined
by
captain
boyle,
lieutenant
troy,
sergeant
gallagher,
detective
hernandez,
we're
also
joined
by
marta
rivera
chief
of
staff
to
the
mayor's
office
of
health
and
human
services.
B
Beth
baker
associate
director
community
initiatives
at
boston,
public
health,
commission
and
paul
schumacher
from
isd.
I
want
to
remind
everyone.
The
board
is
committed
to
working
with
all
of
our
licensees
violations
of
cobit
operational
requirements
to
date
have
been
used
as
a
conversation,
starter,
we're
not
looking
to
infor
we're,
not
looking
to
bring
you
in
for
enforcement
hearings
unless
there's
an
egregious
violation.
We
understand
these
requirements
are
confusing
and
they
are
changing
the
board
and
all
of
our
other
agencies
on
this
call
and
in
the
city
are
here
as
a
resource
to
you.
B
B
Six
people
are
permitted
to
sit
together,
not
eight,
not
ten
tables
need
to
be
placed
six
feet
apart
even
outside
one
of
the
concerns
we're
hearing
from
our
licensees
is
that
you're
struggling
to
ensure
your
patrons
are
wearing
their
masks,
social
distancing
in
line
and
remaining
seated.
We
understand
that
this
is
challenging,
but
at
the
end
of
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
your
responsibility
to
ensure
patrons
are
adhering
to
these
guidelines.
B
C
We
are
very
concerned
about
what
the
data
are
showing
us
and
I'm
sure
anyone
who
has
kids
in
the
boston
public
schools
have.
You
know,
learned
that
boston,
public
school
students
are
going
to
be
remote,
so
that
sort
of
shows
you
the
gravity
of
the
situation
that
we're
in
when
we're
looking
at
the
total
number
of
cases
in
boston,
we
look,
we
can
drill
down
and
look
at
the
data
and
slice
it
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
too
into
the
weeds.
C
But
just
for
your
information,
I
thought
it
would
be
helpful
to
think
about
the
age
groups
that
are
most
impacted
at
this
time.
So
the
of
the
total
number
of
new
cases
I've
covered
in
boston,
the
group,
the
age
band
that
has
the
most
number
of
cases
it's
20
to
29
year
olds
and
that's
followed
by
30
to
39
year
olds
and.
C
The
number
of
positive
cases,
total
positive
cases
divided
by
the
total
number
of
conductive
cases,
so
the
numerator
denominator
could
bring
you
back
to
some
math
classes,
so
boston's,
seven
day,
average
covid19
positive
test
rate
was
5.7
percent
most
recently,
and
this
was
an
increase
from
last
week's
rate
of
4.5
and
again
based
on
the
decision
to
go
remote
for
the
boston
public
schools.
You
can,
I
think
we
can
all
infer
that
these
rates
are
troubling
and
we're
headed.
C
Also
we
have
neighborhood
specific
data
and
we
have
some
rates
that
are
at
high
11.4
percent
positivity,
followed
by
9.4
9.2.
If
the
folks
are
interested
in
data,
you
can
find
all
this
on
the
bphc.org
website
and
we
again
we
drill
down
to
racial
and
ethnic
rates
of
cova
19.,
and
we
just
ask,
as
you
think
about
this,
and
if
you
hear
the
numbers
that
you
really
start
to
think
about
the
people
who
are
impacted
by
kova,
it's
the
guest
who
you're
having
at
your
restaurant.
C
It's
also
your
employees,
it's
your
employees,
families,
it's
the
employees,
loved
ones
and
friends,
so
that
these
are
people
who
are
impacted
by
it,
and
there
are
people
who
are
getting
very
sick
and
we
also
have
the
flu
coming
around
so
not
to
be
doom
and
gloom
and
also
think
about
the
and
I'm
sure
people
follow
this.
But
you
know
the
racial
disparities
that
are
connected
to
covet
infection
rates,
and
you
know
how
is
that
impacting
your
employees
and
how
is
it
going
to
impact
folks
moving
forward
along
with
the
flow?
C
E
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this
important
issue
in
our
public
health
professionals,
along
with
our
boston
police
that
do
an
exceptional
job
throughout
the
city,
the
boston
police,
on
out
to
harass
or
or
or
give
any
anyone
a
hard
time,
but
they
they're
working
hard
to
make
sure
public
health
is,
is
our
top
priority
in
the
city.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
police,
thank
you
to
the
licensing
board
and
to
the
restaurant
owners
into
the
into
the
bars.
E
We
know
it's
a
very
difficult
time
and
we're
just
asking
you
to
work
closely
with
the
licensing
board.
Follow
the
guidelines.
We
have
a
difficult
road
ahead
of
us,
but
we'll
get
through
this
by
working
together.
So
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
dedicated
staff
from
the
mayor's
office.
That
is
here,
and
I
also
believe
my
colleague,
michael
flaherty,
is
with
us
as
well
council
of
flaherty.
F
Yes,
thank
you
councilman.
Thank
you
to
the
commissioner.
I
went
to
the
licensing
board
and
to
all
the
owners,
obviously
trying
times
for
all
of
us,
we're
in
this
together.
Let's
try
to
find,
I
guess,
common
ground
on
all
of
this,
so
that
we
can
try
to
keep
you
guys
up
and
running
at
the
same
time,
do
it
as
safely
as
possible,
so
I'm
here
to
listen
and
to
be
a
resource
for
everybody.
A
G
Yeah
leslie,
just
we
want
to
reiterate
whatever
you
said.
We
know
these
are
confusing
difficult
times,
so
we're
here
as
a
resource
as
well.
So
if
there's
any
issues,
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
to
district
six
for
assistance.
If
we
could
just
ask
people
to
keep
a
close
eye
on
their
minds,
we
would
appreciate
it,
but
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out.
We
don't
want
to
be
looked
at
as
as
the
enemy
we
can
be
used
as
a
resource.
So
if
we
can
do
anything,
please
please
reach
out
to
us
at
district
six.
A
H
We
thank
you,
as
the
capital
alluded
to
and,
as
the
commissioner
also
said,
that
you
know
we
understand
the
difficulties
that
the
industry
is
facing
and
the
detectives
assigned
to
the
licensed
premise
unit
are
not
seeking
to
compound
any
problems
or
give
anyone
any
issues.
Rather,
it's
our
intent
to
to
identify
and
clarify
the
issues
but
and
the
change
in
the
changing
environment
and
identify
any
unacceptable
behavior
and
with
the
cooperation,
the
continued
cooperation
of
the
establishments
to
correct
these
issues.
A
Thank
you
lieutenant
before
we
move
forward
with
some
some
of
the
questions
that
we've
received
and
then
open
it
up
to
questions
from
from
all
of
you.
We
did
want
to
flag
some
of
the
complaints
that
we've
been
receiving
to
date,
while
the
vast
majority
of
our
licensees
have
been
very
clearly
committed
to
adhering
to
all
of
the
requirements
and
the
guidance
issued
as
it's
been
changing.
We've
recently
received
a
significant
increase
in
complaints
specific
to
south
boston
and
the
seaport.
A
We
understand
that
it
can
be
difficult
to
ensure
that
all
of
your
patrons
are
adhering
to
all
of
these
rules
and
regulations,
especially
as
they
change
on
a
fairly
regular
basis.
We're
committed
to
working
with
you
to
identify
best
practices
to
ensure
all
of
your
patrons
are
adhering
to
these
rules
and
regulations,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
are
doing
everything
you
can
both
to
protect
the
public
health
and
public
safety
of
your
patrons
your
employees
in
the
community,
as
well
as
protecting
your
annual
liquor
license.
A
As
the
chairwoman
said,
the
board
has
been
viewing
any
violations
as
a
conversation
starter,
as
opposed
to
something
that
requires
punitive
action.
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
we're
here
as
a
resource,
as
are
all
the
other
departments
that
are
on
this
call
with
that,
I
want
to
turn
it
back
over
to
chairwoman
joyce,
who
has
is
going
to
address
one
of
the
most
common
questions
we've
received
about
recent
changes
to
the
use
of
seating
at
the
bar.
B
So
there
is
probably
a
communication
breakdown
when
the
public
goes
into
your
restaurant
as
far
as
what
is
expected
of
them-
and
all
we
can
ask
is
that
you
continue
to
remind
your
patrons
that
these
these
rules
are
in
place
for
their
own
safety
and
for
the
safety
of
the
restaurants
and
for
the
community.
So
I'd
like
to
jump
into
seating
at
a
bar.
What
has
changed
as
far
as
seating
as
a
bar-
and
many
of
you
know
this,
and
there
has
been
some
confusion
on
the
enforcement
side.
B
Seating
at
the
bar
is
permitted
as
long
as
there
is
a
delineated
space
for
the
service
bar,
so
in
some
restaurants,
where
they
have
a
20-foot
bar,
the
service
bar
is
on
one
end,
and
people
are
not
seated
near
that.
Then
you
can
have
seats
along
the
bar
in
groups
of
six,
should
you
wish,
or
in
groups
of
four
or
in
groups
of
two
and
as
long
as
they're
socially
distant
by
party,
either
by
six
feet
away
from
each
other
or
by
plexiglas
partitions
that
is
okay.
B
Prior
to
this
change,
service
had
to
be
on
the
restaurant
side
at
the
bar.
Now
you
can
serve
your
customers,
as
many
of
you
know,
from
the
bar
side.
As
long
as
there
is
six
feet
between
the
patron
and
where
the
service
area
is,
should
you
wish
people
to
sit
closer
together
than
the
parties
of
than
six
feet?
You
can?
You
can
use
plexiglas
as
partitions.
B
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
that
plexiglas
is
not
a
requirement
at
any
of
these
bars,
but
should
you
choose
to
use
the
bar
as
additional
seating?
You
have
to
make
sure
that
they're
six
feet
between
the
customer
and
the
service
bar
area,
or
there
is
a
plexiglas
partition,
protecting
the
customer
in
the
bartender
from
each
other,
and
there
can
be
a
space
in
which
to
serve
the
food
underneath
the
plexiglas.
B
There
was
some
confusion
as
far
as
whether
plugged
glass
was
a
requirement
at
every
bar
and
what
it
meant
to
have
a
service
bar
and
or
service
at
a
bar.
So
you
can
have
service
at
a
bar
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
from
the
restaurant
side.
But
you
do
need
to
delineate
a
service
area
of
the
bar
and
make
sure
that
the
patrons
are
socially
distant
or
have
plexiglass
to
separate
their
seating
areas
at
the
bar,
so
that
that
is
probably
more
confusing
than
it
needs
to
be.
B
A
And
just
to
clarify,
when
the
chairwoman
talks
about
a
service
bar,
that
is
the
active
area
where
your
bartender
or
your
staff
are
making
mixed
drinks
or
cutting
fruit
or
where
they're
standing
when
they're
not
serving
the
patrons.
So
the
six
feet
does
not
include
if
the
bartender
is
walking
up
to
a
patron,
who
must
be
seated
to
take
their
order
and
then
walking
back
to
the
service
area
to
fulfill
that
order.
A
The
active
service
area
is
where
the
bartender
or
the
staff
would
be
for
extended
periods
of
time
and
again,
we
know
that's
very
confusing,
and
the
chairwoman
and
our
team
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
with
our
inner
departmental
team,
as
well
as
the
state
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
what
is
allowed,
but
this
effectively
creates
additional
table
service
at
the
bar.
However,
it's
also
important
to
note
that
there
could
be
no
standing
at
the
bar.
No
one
can
walk
up
to
the
bar
for
bar
service;
it
has
to
be
used.
A
I
Hey
john
tossy
from
kings,
dining
and
entertainment
in
the
seaport.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
the
information,
especially
in
the
bar
area.
I
don't
want
to
be
specific
to
just
bowling,
but
I
do
have
a
question
about
arcades
and
game
areas:
areas
of
gaming.
I'm
curious.
If
there's
definition
or
is
there
a
definition
to
distance
from
a
gaming
area
to
a
dining
area.
A
That
is
a
very
good
question.
That
is
something
that
we've
actually
been
working
with
on
this
state.
It's
my
understanding
in
kathleen
or
rebecca
foo
on
our
team
or
anyone
else.
Please
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
correct
me
if
I,
if
I'm
not
correct
the
gaming
area
or
the
arcade
area
has
to
adhere
to
the
requirements
for
a
gaming
or
arcade
area,
your
dining
area
has
to
be
separate,
there
could
not
be
eating
and
drinking
in
the
gaming
or
the
bowling
area.
Parties
are
limited
to
six
and
masks
must
be
worn
at
all
times.
A
A
And
we
will
follow
up
with
the
state
to
see
if
there
is
any
additional
guidance
on
that
specific
distance
and,
just
to
reiterate
on
any
of
these
questions,
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
the
board
via
email.
We
are
happy
to
look
over
your
questions
to.
If
we
don't
have
the
answer
we
will
reach
out
to
the
state.
Just
just
like
all
of
you.
We
don't.
We
don't
always
have
the
answers,
we're
learning
as
we're
going
to
so
never
worry
about
reaching
out,
and
you
know
proposing
something
we're
happy
to
work
with
you.
A
We
just
got
a
question
in
the
chat:
can
a
bartender
serve
a
guest
across
the
bar
with
no
plexi
glass
barrier?
If
they're
not
in
the
service
bar
area?
Yes,
they
can
take
their
order
and
they
can
deliver
the
food
and
the
beverages
they
just
cannot
be
standing
there
within
six
feet
for
an
extended
period
of
time.
A
G
A
A
At
this
time
there
is
not
a
reduction
in
your
annual
liquor
fee.
The
requirement,
I
think,
as
everyone
knows
on
on
this
call
of
an
annual
renewal
fee
for
your
liquor
license
is
statutory
and
we
are
collecting
a
lot
of
data
to
that
point.
We
are,
however,
waiving
fees
in
2021
for
certain
forms
of
entertainment
licenses.
If
you
have
a
live,
entertainment
license
that
fee
will
be
waived
for
2021
and
non-live
will
be
considered
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
A
B
A
A
We
have
another
question:
if
the
guest
is
being
served
by
the
bartender
at
the
bar,
does
the
guest
need
to
be
seated
at
a
table
at
the
bar?
No,
you
no
longer
need
to
reconfigure
your
bar
by
placing
a
table
adjacent
to
it
and
having
your
customer.
On
the
other
side,
your
bartender
can
serve
across
the
bar
as
long
as
the
active
service
area
is
maintaining
that
six
feet
of
separation.
A
How
many
complaints
have
been
received
for
seaport,
south
boston
versus
how
many
citations
were
issued?
I
don't
believe
we
have
that
data
off
the
top
of
our
our
heads,
but
I,
the
license
premise
unit-
does
conduct
an
investigation
whenever
we
receive
a
complaint
and
the
vast
majority
of
licensees
have
been
complying
and
anyone
who
did
have
issues
has
been
extremely
cooperative
in
working
with
us
from
an
educational
perspective
to
rectify
any
concerns.
B
A
C
F
K
Is
christy
from
six
gear
in
south
boston?
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
quick
question
in
regards
to
seeing,
if
you
guys
could
possibly
re-go
over
the
food
requirements,
we've
had
a
lot
of
pushback
on
it
and
you
know
different
people
doing
different
things.
So
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
get
a
better
understanding
from
the
licensing
point
of
view.
What
exactly
is
going
on.
B
Sure
food
is
required
in
order
to
sit
at
a
table
and
have
drinks.
There
was
a
little
clarity
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
maybe
last
month,
that
you
don't
necessarily
need
to
have
that
appetizer
brought
over.
At
the
same
time.
You
have
your
drink
brought
over.
The
sequence
of
service
doesn't
have
to
be
food
and
then
drink,
but
you
do
have
to
order
food
with
drinks
and
it
has
to
be
an
amount
of
food.
B
That's
sufficient
to
serve
that
table
and
there's
no,
that
we
don't
have
any
more
specific
guidelines
about
what
is
specific
for
a
person
who's
sitting
at
the
table
again
we're
trying
to
encourage
people
to
eat
and
drink
together
at
a
restaurant.
It's
not.
These
guidelines
are
not
intended
to
encourage
people
to
stay
for
four
or
five
hours
and
have
rounds
of
drinks
without
food
and
then
have
their
judgment
impaired
and
refuse
to
wear
their
masks
and
and
hassle
the
staff.
B
So
it's
up
to
you
as
an
operator
and
as
a
licensee,
to
figure
out
what
works
best
for
your
licensed
premise.
But
that's
where
these
public
health
guidelines
are
coming
from
they're
intended
to
allow
restaurants
to
open
and
operate,
not
necessarily
for
the
public
to
spend
four
or
five
hours
at
the
same
restaurant.
A
One
of
the
one
of
the
questions
that
we've
received
fairly
frequently
that
I
think
we've
just
gotten
a
little
more
clarity
on
from
the
state
are
restaurant
buyouts
for
special
events.
So
there
was
recently
a
change
in
the
requirement
that,
if
you're
closing
your
restaurant
for
a
special
event,
it
used
to
be
that
the
maximum
capacity
indoors
was
25,
including
staff.
It
is
now
25
for
the
patrons.
A
A
patrons
can
sit
or
stand,
but
they
can
only
sit
or
stand
in
groups
of
up
to
six
socially
distanced
by
six
feet.
So,
if
you're
closing
for
a
private
event,
it
does
change
what
you
can
and
can't
do.
But
one
of
the
most
important
things
to
remember
there
is
the
maximum
is
25
guests,
no
longer
25
guests,
including
staff.
B
Yeah
boston
is
not
we're
not
doing
like
one
person
per
this
many
thousand
feet.
It's
25
people,
no
matter
how
big
your
space
is.
If
you
are
doing
a
buyout,
I
think
the
I
think
the
thinking
behind
that
is
that
it's
different
than
when
you
have
a
restaurant
with
everyone
socially
distanced
that
are
there
probably
for
about
90
minutes
from
beginning
to
end.
B
D
So
I
had
a
question:
as
you
mentioned
a
buy
out
in
my
restaurant,
I
have
a
private
dining
room
that
would
accommodate
those
25
people
and
still
have
the
rest
of
my
dining
room
open
for
a
la
carte
dining.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
within
that
private
space,
that
enclosed
space
for
those
25
people
that
could
socially
distance.
They
can
stand
up
with
a
cocktail.
D
A
It's
true,
it
would
then
be
25
for
your
whole
restaurant
right.
If
you
can't
say
I'm
going
to
use
my
function,
room
for
this
private
event
and
keep
the
rest
of
the
restaurant
open
to
the
to
the
public
with
those
social
distancing
parameters,
if
you're
closing
down
for
a
private
event,
those
individuals
with
a
maximum
of
25
for
the
entire
restaurant,
they
can
be
standing,
they
still
have
to
be
in
parties
of
six
separated
by
a
minimum
of
six
feet,
though.
A
A
And
thank
you
we
will.
This
has
been
recorded
and
we
will
post
it
to
the
website
again.
Please
we'd
encourage
everyone
to
sign
up
for
our
email
advisories.
I
know
people
have
been
putting
their
emails
in
the
chat.
It's
really
important
for
the
board
and
all
the
other
city
departments
to
be
able
to
get
information
out
to
you
as
quickly
as
possible
as
things
change.
So
thank
you
all
for
taking
the
time
to
be
here.
We
greatly
appreciate
it.