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City of Boston Licensing Board Entertainment Application Hearing 3-6-23
A
A
Good
afternoon,
this
is
an
administrative
hearing
before
the
Mayor's
Office
of
Consumer
Affairs
and
Licensing
today
is
Monday
March
6
2023..
This
hearing
is
being
conducted
pursuant
to
certain
temporary
amendments
to
the
open
meeting
law.
That
is
what
allows
us
to
meet.
Virtually
this
hearing
is
being
recorded
and
will
be
posted
to
the
city
of
Boston's
website.
A
We
are
joined
this
afternoon
by
the
executive
director
of
the
Mayor's
Office
of
Consumer
Affairs
and
Licensing
Kathleen
Joyce
and
director
of
operations.
Rebecca
food
I
will
read
today's
agenda
item
into
the
record.
I
will
then
ask
who
is
present
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
You
will
then
make
a
brief
presentation
regarding
your
proposal,
followed
by
questions
by
the
entertainment,
Division
and
testimony
beginning
with
elected
officials
or
their
representatives.
A
The
application
on
this
afternoon's
agenda
is
1885,
Center,
Street,
LLC,
doing
business
as
Boston
Ale
House,
located
at
1885
Center
Street
in
West
Roxbury.
The
application
is
to
add
the
live,
entertainment
categories
consisting
of
disc
jockey
dancing
by
patrons
karaoke
up
to
five
instrumentalists
up
to
three
vocalists
exhibition.
Trade
show
and
floor
show,
consisting
of
comedians
until
1am
7
days
a
week
added
to
the
existing
non-live
entertainment
license.
B
C
Attorney
Choice
can
I
just
jump
in
for
a
second
yes,
so
this
is
I
just
want
to
make
this
clear,
because
we've
received
a
lot
of
Communications
in
the
last
few
days
that
to
everyone
who's
here
with
us
today.
This
is
an
entertainment
hearing
and
I
am
chairing
this
as
executive
director
of
the
entertainment
division.
There
is
no
vote
of
the
licensing
board.
This
is
going
to
be
a
decision
that
I
issue
as
director
executive
director
of
the
entertainment,
Division
I
have
30
days
to
issue
my
decision
and
I.
C
Don't
plan
on
issuing
a
decision
today
or
tomorrow.
I
understand,
there's
a
community
process.
That's
still
going
on
and
I
will
be
waiting
until
that
Community
process
is
complete,
so
I
hope
that
answers
a
lot
of
questions
of
people
who
have
joined
today
and
there
is
no
vote,
but
you
may
continue
attorney
Joyce.
Thank.
B
A
B
D
D
D
We
had
a
meeting
with
them
on
Thursday
regarding
the
the
hours
and
I
told
them
that
you
know
we
really
weren't.
Looking
for
the
reason
we
put,
we
put
the
application
in
from
the
the
previous
location.
Had
you
know
the
most
we
were
really
going
to
do
during
the
week
would
be
11
p.m.
You
know
for
trivia
to
bingo
thing
and
then
hopefully
you
know
on
a
Friday
and
Saturday.
We
were
hoping
to
maybe
go
to
12
30.
D
and
then
on
a
Sunday,
also
11
PM,
with
the
input
from
The
Neighbors,
but
it
wasn't
a
consistent
all
the
time
live
bands
or
anything.
You
know,
we
don't
worry
it's
a
more.
It's
a
family
restaurant.
You
know
it's
Sports.
A
lot
of
people
watch
sports
in
there,
so
when
those
Sports
Army
wouldn't
have
happened
like
that
on
so
it'll
be
not
a
lot.
D
Maybe
once
a
week,
the
trivia
is
once
a
week
and
then
we
just
had
some
requests
to
do
a
bingo
on
a
on
a
on
a
Tuesday
night
which
would
be
over
at
you
know:
10
30.
That
just
gives
us
the
flexibility
to
have
it
to
11.
So
they
can.
They
can
wrap
up
and
get
out
of
there,
but
it
wasn't
a
consistent
like
seven
days
a
week
around.
They
thought
it
was.
You
know
more
like
flexibility,
so
we
don't
have
to
complete,
always
apply
for
one
day
licenses.
When
we
want
to
do
something.
D
C
D
We
understand
totally,
we
notified
all
the
immediate
neighbors
by
hand
we
get
a
week
prior,
we
sent
out.
You
know
the
notification
of
this
hearing.
Also,
we
had
a
a
zoom
meeting
on
Thursday
nights
with
the
neighbors,
with
our
liaison
from
from
West
Roxbury,
and
we
that's
the
import
that
we
got
on
tours
tonight
that
I'm
saying
that
you
know
we're
willing
to
walk
with
those
hours
going
forward.
D
D
Yeah,
absolutely
that
was
just
more
like
taking
off
the
boxes.
There
wouldn't
really
be
any
guns,
and
by
patrons
we
do
have
a
small.
You
know
a
small
function,
room
I,
don't
know.
If
you
know
we
we
just
clicked
in
on
the
boxes
on
the
application.
It's
not
it's
not
set
up.
If,
if
you
feel
free
to
look
on
our
Instagram
or
anything,
you
can
see
photos
of
the
restaurant,
it's
it's
a
family,
restaurant
there's,
no
areas
for
dancing,
there's
no
dance
floors,
none
of
that
available.
D
So
we
didn't.
We
just
kind
of
kick
that
box.
While
we
were
doing
the
application,
but
it's
more
smaller
type,
smaller
type
one
person
two
person
live
music
people
gave
us
names
of
people
over
there
before
and
as
far
as
karaoke
and
those
things
go,
you
know
it's
that
wasn't
a
consistent
thing.
It
was
just
an
option
if
we,
if
we
could
do
that,
but
there
is
no
there's
no
dance
floor.
There's
no
learning
it's
a
family
restaurant.
D
D
That
would
that
would
be
just
to
be
we'll
be
sure
off
at
The
Patio
hours,
and
the
party
was
completely
closed
off
from
the
street.
It's
actually
a
little
bit
below
level,
so
you
can't
see
the
TVs
in
from
the
street.
There
was
one
neighbor
that
lives
very
high.
That
mentioned
that
then
they
could
see
in,
but
we
would
set
those
TVs
on
a
timer
what
I.T
Department
to
make
sure
that
they
were
shut
off
exactly
when
the
patio
closes.
What.
D
Yeah
when
we
built
the
restaurant,
so
we
took
the
restaurant
over
nearly
three
years
ago,
we
opened
last
summer.
It
was
a
multi-million
dollar
renovation.
We
put
a
serious
amount
of
money
into
soundproof
and
the
entire
ceilings
were
all
put
in
with
acoustical
acoustical
material
on
all
the
ceilings.
Everything
was
so
improved
extensively.
F
D
The
premises
he's
he's
sitting
beside
me
right
now:
he's
he's
the
manager
on
premises.
What
his
also
his
assistant
manager
was
there,
and
so
he,
you
know
anytime
June
hours,
you
know,
there's
a
manager
there
full
time,
all
the
time
our
office
is
available
off
hours
or
anytime
to
to
reach
us
I
will
get
you
all
that
contact
information.
E
D
It's
known
to
be
no
cover
charge,
no
promoters.
None
of
that.
The
only
thing
which
I
also
share
with
the
neighbors
was,
if
we
were
to
do
something
we
would.
We
would
also
post
it
on
our
Facebook
and
Instagram.
If
there
was
so,
they
could
see
it.
You
know
you
know
what
we
were
doing,
nothing
that
would
require
a
cover
charge.
Anything
like
that.
A
Thank
you
we'll
move
to
testimony
in
just
a
moment.
I
see
there
are
a
number
of
folks
here
who
may
want
to
speak.
If
you
are
planning
on
providing
testimony,
please
use
the
raise
hand,
function
and
I've
got
a
call
on
folks
in
the
order
that
I
see
you
sign
up
before
we
get
there,
I
will
ask:
are
there
any
elected
officials
or
their
representatives?
Who
would
like
to
provide
testimony
right
now.
G
How's
it
going
Dan
Dan
Hudson
from
the
mayor's
office,
Neighborhood
Services
in
the
West
Roxbury
liaison
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
we
did
host
in
a
Butters
meeting.
We
did
also
have
a
separate
meeting
with
a
couple
members
of
the
neighborhood
civic
association
just
to
get
the
word
out
there
ahead
of
time.
In
the
meeting
it
was
productive.
The
Ale
House
was
able
to
communicate
the
schedule
and
and
the
plan
that
they
have
detail
here
today
they
were
able
to
answer
all
the
questions
the
neighbors
had.
G
I
will
note
that
there
were
certain
issues
that
the
neighborhood
had
with
parking,
but
obviously
that
does
not
apply
to
this.
This
hearing
we're
in
the
front
of
the
Judgment
of
the
commissioner
here
on
this
one,
but
the
butters
meeting
went
well
happy
to
report
back
and
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
A
A
A
H
Yeah
I'm
Mark
hornstein
I'm
at
40
Hastings,
it's
kind
of
in
the
300
yard.
Circle.
Not
quite
but
I
have
two
questions.
If
it's
a
family
establishment,
a
family,
a
restaurant,
why
does
the
hour
need
to
be
1am?
That's
number
one
and
number
two.
If
it
turns
into
a
nightclub
or
disturbs
the
neighborhood
or
it's
our
recourse,
do
we
call
the
police?
Do
we
call
the
owner?
Do
we
call
our
council
person?
What
do
we
do
and
third
of
all
I
know
that
and
Hudson
said?
H
Oh,
this
isn't
about
parking,
but
most
of
the
residents
here
on
the
street
say
yeah.
It
is
about
parking
because
even
now,
when
the
restaurant
is
open
on
weekends,
during
a
sporting
event
or
whatever,
we
have
wall-to-wall
cars
like
all
the
time
and
that's
on
top
of
the
commuter
rail
parking,
so
I
know
that
this
body
doesn't
deal
with
parking,
but
I
would
ask
that
you
use
the
issue
of
parking
and
informing
your
decision.
Thank
you.
I
This
is
this:
is
Joel
Peterson
I'm
at
number
31.
I'm
directly
behind
the
restaurant
I'm,
the
closest
a
butter
I've
already
submitted
a
statement
to
the
board,
but
I
was
able
to
get
back
from
my
appointment
in
time
to
do
this.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
speak
as
I
noted,
the
the
operators
of
the
of
the
restaurant
really
don't
have
any
control
over
traffic
and
parking,
but
that
problem
which
exists
already
can
only
be
exacerbated
by
entertainment
at
that
late
hour.
I
So
my
my
suggestion
is
well.
I
want
the
restaurant
to
be
to
be
successful
that
those
hours,
especially
given
that
this
is
a
residential
neighborhood
with
lots
of
families,
children,
pets,
Etc
that
those
those
hours
be
somewhat
limited,
at
least
initially,
so
that
we
can
see
that
the
restaurant
is
in
good
faith.
You
know
really
working
with
the
the
neighborhood
to
to
manage
what
extras
they
can.
I
So.
My
suggestion
in
my
letter
was
that
they'd
be
limited
to
a
10
o'clock,
entertainment
closing
time
from
Sunday
to
Thursday
and
at
11
o'clock
on
Friday
and
Saturday
as
I
understand
it
I
think
these
licenses
are
are
reissued.
Every
fall
and
that
that
would
give
us
an
opportunity
to
see
how
well
this
is
working
and
to
revisit
this.
This
issue
again
so
I
appreciate
having
opportunity
to
speak
and
thank
you
very.
A
A
J
Who
I
think
are
you
know,
hoping
and
and
sincere
in
their
intent
to
be
good
neighbors.
But
there's
always
some
room
for
negotiation.
There
I
think
compared
to
the
seven
day
a
week
until
1am
versus,
but
the
neighbors
are
seeking.
So
I
would
support
the
Neighbors
in
that
pursuit
of
trying
to
get
some
Middle
Ground.
A
Thank
you,
Miss
Brian,
you
may
have
missed
at
the
top
of
the
hearing.
The
executive
director,
Kathleen
Joyce
did
state
that
the
division
has
30
days
to
issue
a
written
decision
on
this
matter.
So
anything
further.
Any
agreement
that
the
applicant
might
come
to
that
should
be
brought
to
the
division's.
Attention
should
be
sent
to
mocal
boston.gov
and
again.
The
division
has
30
days
to
issue
a
decision.
Okay,.