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From YouTube: Bay Village Park Design Meeting #3 - 10/14/21
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Bay Village Park Design Meeting #3 - 10/14/21
A
So
that
people
who
aren't
able
to
be
here
tonight
with
us
or
want
to
go
back
to
certain
parts
of
the
presentation
will
be
able
to
do
so,
but
it's
also
possible
that
other
viewers
may
be
recording
the
meeting
with
their
phones,
cameras
or
other
devices,
and
if
you
don't
want
to
be
recorded
during
this
meeting,
you
can
turn
off
your
microphone
and
camera
aaron.
A
And
then
there
are
prompts
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen
that
can
help
you
maneuver
through
the
presentation.
A
A
So,
as
I
said,
I'm
annie
blair
the
project
manager
christine
brandeo,
is
our
outreach
coordinator
and
she's.
She
wasn't
able
to
be
with
us
tonight,
so
our
thanks
go
to
shauna
dixon
for
filling
in
for
her
and,
as
I
said
before,
jimeru
and
aaron
cramer
from
copley
wolf
design
group.
A
A
A
This
is
the
third
and
final
public
meeting
we'll
take
everything
that
we've
heard
so
far
and
put
the
construction
bid
package
together
through
the
winter
time
february
is
a
great
time
to
bid
out
construction
projects
because
that's
when
contractors
are
at
their
slowest
and
so
we
get
the
best
prices
most
competitive
prices,
then,
and
then
hopefully
we
can
start
construction
in
april
or
may
you
know,
assuming
that
we
get
a
successful
bidder
and
there
aren't
any
challenges
to
it
and
then
have
construction
go
until
fall
of
2022
and
open
up
the
park.
A
So
there
are
four
components
that
go
into
park:
design.
One
is
the
city
of
boston,
has
some
overarching
priorities.
The
parks
and
recreation
department
has
goals
that
are
a
bit
more
detailed
and
focused
on
the
parks
themselves.
Community
input
is,
of
course,
critical
and
then
there's
certain
safety
guidelines
and
regulatory
guidelines
that
we
need
to
meet.
For
instance,
the
americans
with
disabilities
act.
A
A
A
The
park
and
recreation
department's
goals
are
to
make
the
parks
accessible
and
available
to
all
ages
and
abilities,
restore
and
redevelop
the
water
feature
and
tool
of
fully
functional
water.
Fountain,
introduce
permanent
seeding
into
the
park,
adaptive
and
resilient
landscapes
that
are
maintainable
and
promoting
connections
you
know
within
and
beyond
the
community.
A
So
the
neighborhoods
goals
that
we
understand
from
the
application
to
the
edwardian
ingersoll
brown
fund,
which
gave
us
a
certain
amount
of
money
to
start
the
project,
and
then
that
was
supplemented
with
capital
funds
are
to
retouch
and
repair
the
current
iron
boundary
fence,
restore
and
redevelop
the
water
feature
into
a
fully
functional
water.
Fountain,
introduce
permanent
seating
into
the
park
repair
or
replace
the
black
irrigation
box.
That's
currently
rusting
out
and
to
introduce
electricity
into
the
park
for
special
events,
performances
and
seasonal
lighting.
A
B
Yes,
that
is
correct
so
from
the
first
and
the
second
meeting,
the
the
overarching
things
and
the
feedback
that
we
got
was
that
you
like
the
park
and
you'd
like
to
preserve
the
character
of
the
park,
you'd
like
to
add
some
year-round
seating
in
addition
and
keep
some
of
the
movable
seating,
as
currently
in
the
park,
restore
the
existing
perennial
gardens,
restore
the
materials.
So
the
existing
lights,
the
fencing
and
the
paving
you'd
also
like
to
restore
and
upgrade
the
existing
fountain
and
repair.
B
It
maybe
provide
a
small
scale,
an
area
for
small
scale.
Musical
performances
in
the
park
provide
electricity
in
the
park
for
other
for
the
events
like
small
scale,
music
performance
and
other
things
provide
a
small
amount
of
additional
storage
for
gardening
tools
and
trash
receptacles
and
provide
a
location
and
an
electrical
connection
for
a
holiday
tree.
B
We'll
go
we'll
review
the
four
concepts
that
we
presented
in
the
last
meeting,
but
the
preferred
option
from
the
last
meeting
was
for
concept
number
three,
which
was
titled
connecting
entrances
into
bay
village
just
to
rehash
and
over
review.
What
we've
done.
These
are
some
existing
site
conditions
just
to
re-familiar
yourself
with
the
site
showing
some
of
the
plants
and
materials
in
different
seasons
it's
now
autumn,
but
like
the
hydrangeas.
B
So
this
was
more
of
a
springtime
shot,
showing
the
existing
planters,
the
existing
fountain
existing
seating
and
then
the
two
existing
entrance
ways,
including
the
one
on
south
charles
that
has
steps.
B
Here's
the
current
conditions
of
the
park.
This
again
shows
the
shows
the
perennial
gardens,
the
three
existing
americorps
trees,
the
two
existing
entrances
and
how
you
get
into
the
park
and
the
fountain
with
accent
paving.
B
So
then
here's
our
site
analysis
so
from
the
existing
park.
Things
that
we
noticed
were
that
the
existing
entrances
don't
really
form
a
very
nice
entrance
or
don't
really
connect
to
bay
village,
as
you
can
see
these
red
lines
showing
the
visual
access.
So
when
you're,
both
looking
out
of
the
park
and
you're
coming
into
the
park,
the
things
that
you
are
looking
at
are
south
charles
street.
B
If
you're
at
the
south,
charles
entrance,
it
does
look
to
the
adjacent
park,
but
really
you're
looking
across
a
wide
road
and
then
the
one
on
melrose
street.
It
doesn't
quite
line
up
with
broadway
street.
And
if
you
look
at
it,
you
look
out
towards
the
parking
lot
the
parking
ramp.
That
is
at
the
far
end
of
broadway
other
issues
that
we
noted.
B
Where
there's
these
three
existing
planters
in
the
park,
that
kind
of
form
a
kind
of
a
wall
and
a
visual
barrier,
as
well
as
there's
a
narrower
sidewalk
along
fayette
street,
which
is
one
of
the
other
connections
from
bay
village
and
then
the
aforementioned
fountain.
That
we
would
like
to
get
some
repair
and
the
the
existing
mechanicals
for
the
irrigation
that
need
repair.
C
And
in
addition
to
this,
too,
that
the
way
the
grading
of
charles
street
south
works
to
come
into
that
point
of
entry,
you're
actually
going
up
in
elevation,
and
then
you
have
to
step
down
into
the
park.
So
that's
from
an
accessibility
aspect
is
a
bit
of
a
challenge
and
the
other
issues
that
we
noticed
when
we're
in
the
park
once
you're
in
it,
and
you
look
to
those
two
red
dashed
arrows.
C
C
It's
really
wide
open
to
the
street
and
and
took
you
know
toward
the
bay
village
dog
park
area,
which
you
know
there's
a
hotel
there,
but
it's
still
it
really
sort
of
leaks
space.
It
does
you
don't
feel
as
contained
when
you're
in
those
positions.
So
that's
something
we
looked
at.
B
B
One
was
the
kind
of
a
minimalist
approach
where
we
just
made
some
modifications
to
the
current
design,
kept
the
entrances
where
they
were
and
made
sure
upgrade
the
materials
so
that,
like
the
paving
met,
accessibility,
guidelines,
concept,
two
and
concept
four,
we
looked
at
different
options
for
relocating
the
entrances
along
south
charles
street
and
taking
the
corner
entrance
on
melrose
on
concept
two
and
on
concept,
four,
really
keeping
that
south
charles
entrance
and
then
tying
into
the
church,
the
church
that
is
adjacent
to
the
park.
B
Those
are
the
three
that
of
the
four.
Those
are
the
three
that
we
presented
that
were
not
the
preferred.
The
preferred
option
was
concept:
three
which
really
brought
the
entrances
to
the
corner
and
to
melrose
street
kind
of
really
tying
it
into
the
neighborhood,
and
we
took
your
feedback
from
this
one
to
come
up
with
this
final
concept:
design,
big
things
about
this
design,
so
we
have
the
strong.
The
visual
access
to
the
fountain
is
kind
of
aligned
on
visual
access
to
the
melrose
street
entrance.
B
That
really
brings
you
in
from
the
corner,
so
as
you're
rounding,
the
corner,
you'll
see
the
fountain
and
then
on
fayette
street.
It
also
kind
of
interacts
instead
of
coming
out
to
south
charles
street.
You
enter
the
park
at
the
corner
here
so
that
it's
closer
to
the
bay
village
community.
B
Other
things
to
note,
we
speaking
of
the
weak
visual
accesses
out
of
the
corners
that
jim
was
talking
about.
We've
added
two
two
small
flowering
trees,
of
which
we
can.
We
can
discuss
later
what
kind
of
options
there
would
be
to
help
anchor
the
space
in
the
corners
we
make.
We
maintain
the
three
existing
mature
trees,
the
emerald
cork
trees,
we're
also
maintaining
the
existing
gas
lamps.
However,
we
are
relocating
them
and
refurbishing
them.
B
So
if
they
work
with
the
new,
the
new
entrances
and
flow
patterns,
we're
also
adding
a
couple
of
permanent
benches.
So
we've
got
two
benches
here,
along
kind
of
the
at
the
corner
of
the
edge
of
the
park
that
abuts
the
church
and
then
two
kind
of
stone
benches
that
really
they
interact
more
with
the
garden
behind
it
and
they're
just
kind
of
an
area
where
you
can
sit
and
look
at
the
fountain
other
features
of
the
park.
We
have
to
really
accent
the
entry
of
the
park.
B
We
have
some
new
grant,
proposing
new
granite,
paving
to
really
define
an
entry
with
maintaining
the
bricks
in
the
center
of
the
park
and
then
along
the
existing
road,
where
we
were
reset
we'll
have
reset
and
repair
some
of
the
existing
brick
where
we're
touching
stuff
and
we
need
it
to.
You,
know
regrade
and
just
to
make
sure
it's
a
consistent
flow.
C
So
let
me
just
add
a
little
bit
to
what
aaron's
presenting
you
know.
Creating
that
continuous,
perennial
bed
along
south
charles
street
will
help
actually
keep
a
have.
The
bed
look
consistent
from
one
end
of
the
garden
to
the
next.
Not
have
it
broken
up
in
the
middle
like
it
exists
today.
C
The
the
big
move
is
those
entrances
in
the
corners.
It
really
does
push
people
out
into
the
neighborhoods,
and
this
is
called
the
bay
village
park
and
and
this
instead
of
having
people
go
up
on
broadway
toward
the
parking
garage
or
out
to
south
charles
or
toward
alien
norton.
This
sort
of
brings
people
right
into
the
heart
of
the
neighborhood,
and
that
was
a
two-fold
move,
one
to
embrace
neighborhood,
but
two,
even
though
the
church
is
not
active
at
the
moment,
it
doesn't
seem
to
be.
C
We
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
that
building
in
the
future,
and
this
also
will
help
engage
those
corners
of
that
building
too,
and
it
gives
us
sort
of
a
generous
opportunity
to
to
really
connect
with
the
building.
That's
actually
on
the
park.
Aaron
pointed
out
to
annie
not
that
long
ago
that
this
move
actually
decreases
the
amount
of
pavement
by
moving
the
entries
a
little
bit
but
also
increases
the
amount
of
planting.
So
it
makes
the
guard
not
only
continuous
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
generous,
which
is
nice.
C
The
intent
of
the
fence
at
the
edges
is
that,
as
you
know,
charles
street
south
and
melrose
street
slopes
up
to
charles
street
south.
So
it's
so
there's
a
grazing
a
rising
grade
and
that
curbing
that's
along
that
edge.
Actually,
there's
a
you.
Can
you
actually
step
down
into
the
garden?
So
it's
a
concrete
curb
with
a
with
a
steel
fence
and
that's
going
to
remain
and
we'll
repair
or
close
up
the
entries
where
the
former
entries
were
with
you
know
more
of
the
same,
but
as
you
enter
the
park
and
aaron
you
can.
C
Actually,
you
know
just
put
your
hand
on
it
in
a
way
as
you
enter
the
park,
those
pieces
that
sort
of
bracket
the
corners
and
then
come
into
the
park,
we're
proposing
a
wider
sort
of
granite,
curb
that
will
have
an
eased
edge
to
it.
To
really
give
a
nice
clean
edge
to
the
park,
and,
and
so
the
fence
will
come
in
and
and
have
some
sort
of
gateway
as
well,
which
you
know
it's-
we
haven't
designed
the
gateway,
but
it
could
be
something
special.
C
C
I
know,
annie
met
with
some
people
out
in
the
site
last
friday,
but
if
you
go
stand
in
the
corners
and
say
on
melrose
of
fayette
and
imagine
looking
into
the
park
at
those
points,
you'll
see
why
the
fountain
was
just
moved
over
slightly
just
to
create
that
sort
of
visual
anchor
in
the
park
as
well,
and
then
aaron
showed
a
couple
of
locations
for
the
holiday
tree.
C
You
know
the
one
location
like
where
he's
circling
right
right
now,
if
you
were
to
have
a
holiday
tree
there
and
you
have
your
power
there,
it's
something
that's
sort
of
visual
to
the
street
and
visual
from
the
neighborhood.
But
if
you
were
to
use
that
power
say
to
set
up
of
music
and
you
need
to
plug
in
something
the
opportunity
for
the
sound
to
reverberate
back
off
of
that
church.
B
And
then
so,
this
is
just
some
of
the
materials
boards
of
some
of
the
materials
that
we're
proposing.
So
we
would
be
replacing
the
brick
with
ada
friendly
wire
struck,
brick
and
that's
shown
at
the
bottom.
In
just
two
different
colors.
We
could
use
two
contrasting
colors
like
in
the
rendering
just
to
help
break
up
the
the
color
and
give
it
you
know
a
little
bit
of
variation
on
the
rendering.
B
So
in
the
main
part
of
the
park,
we
went
with
this
basket
weave
pattern
that
I'm
circling
right
now
here
that's
highlighted
and
then
just
to
kind
of
accent,
the
entries
and
to
provide
a
little
contrast,
we're
showing
a
herringbone
pattern.
If
there
are
other
patterns
anybody
would
like
to
see
in
the
neo's
regions,
that's
a
good
place
for
we
could
take
input
and
we
can
easily
revise
the
plan
with
any
of
these
patterns.
The
brick
they're
all
standard
sizes
and
they're
all
standard
patterns.
C
And
you
could
step
back
back
and
forth
to
aaron
to
show
them
that,
because
it's
the
fine
details
like
zooming
in
a
little
bit
the
intention
for
if
you,
if
you
can
zoom
in
on
that,
I
can't,
I
guess
all
right.
C
Okay,
well,
the
intention
just
so
it
the
reason
we're
looking
at
that
is
by
having
the
basket
weave
be
around
the
fountain.
It
creates
sort
of
a
a
place
of
destination
and
calm,
whereas
the
herringbone
pattern
is
a
as
a
zone
of
transition
to
get
into
the
park,
and
it's
just
very
pleasant
and
and,
as
aaron
said,
we
could
look
at
other
patterns,
but
right
now.
This
is
we're.
Looking
at
this
sort
of
condition
of
of
threshold
and
and
destination
and
he'll
go
back
through
where
the
granite
pavers
are
too.
B
And
then
here's
so
here's
an
example
of
we
could
do
a
cobble
border
like
this,
or
we
could
do
more
of
like
a
a
large,
more
singular
piece
around
the
edge
around
the
planting
bed
and
then
these
granite
pavers
here
are
what
we're
showing
this
image
here.
You
could
think
of
that,
as
on
this
plan,
at
the
both
entrances,
to
kind
of
you
know
just
mark
the
entry-
and
you
know
provide
a
visual
contrast
and
then
also
around
the
fountain,
which
is
the
focal
point
of
the
park.
B
And
then
here's
some
other
examples,
so
we
would
be
re
restoring
and
relocating
the
existing
gas
lamps
on
the
park
along
melrose
street
I'll.
Go
back
we're
going
to
propose
that
we
keep
the
flexible
seating
that
the
community
has.
So
we
have
the
permanent
benches
that
we've
added,
but
then
in
this
corner,
it'd
be
a
good
place
to
keep
the
flexible
scene
and
that's
something
if
you
have
a.
B
If
you
have
a
musical
performance
or
some
other
performance
in
the
park,
you
can
easily
move
that
around
to
to
allow
the
performance
and
enable
people
to
sit
where
they
would
like,
while
still
maintaining
permanent
seating
in
the
winter.
We're
also
looking
at
so
boston
city,
standard
trash
cans,
black
steel
strap,
benches
kind
of
going
with
the
historic
nature
that
can
they
go
with
the
light,
post
and
kind
of
the
south
end
and
bay
village.
B
These
these
two
gateways
here.
So
when
we're
talking
about
entrance
gateways,
these
are
just
local
examples,
and
these
were
both
funded
with
brown
fund
money,
so
the
we
would
design
a
gateway
that
would
be
appropriate
for
the
park.
These
are
just
two
examples
of
gateways
nearby.
They
use
brown
fun
money,
we'd
shown
a
couple
of
granite
block
seating
just
at
the
edge
of
the
park
kind
of
by
the
fountain,
and
this
is
just
an
example
of
what
that
could
look
like.
C
The
reason
we
put
the
granite
block
seating
on
the
side
of
the
park
where
the
fountain
is
is
really
just
to
create
sort
of
like
margins
and
borders
to
help
anchor
the
fountain
visually
as
you
come
in
from
melrose
street,
so
we
could
add
more
or
less
they
might
be
longer
or
shorter
than
what's
shown,
but
that's
that
was
the
intent.
B
Okay,
a
couple
more
materials,
so
we
restore
the
the
current
fountain
and
repair
it
we
would
add.
So
this
is
another
example
of
like
a
granite,
so
we
showed
the
flush
granite
edge.
We
could
also
do
a
raised
granite
edge.
We'd,
probably
we
would
do
something
where
it's
a
bit
either
slanted
or
beveled.
So
it's
kinder
and
easier
to
maintain
the
flower
beds.
B
There's
an
existing
drain
on
the
site.
We
would,
as
we
relocate
and
redo
our
work.
We
could
provide
a
signature
drain
cover
just
to
kind
of
you
know,
have
it
be
more
ornate
and
less
utilitarian,
so
it
blends
in
nice.
With
the
park
there
was
a
desire
to
provide
a
storage
box,
so
we've
located
here's
just
an
example:
image
of
a
small
storage
box
for
some
of
the
garden
tools,
and
then
another
potential
option
is.
B
C
Yeah
with
within
the
park
itself
and
and
some
people
might
not
want
that,
since
it's
such
an
active
gardening
activity
there,
they
might
not
want
to
deal
with
stepping
over
the
edge
it
does
keep
dogs
from
you
know
spontaneously
jumping
in,
but
but
you
know
it's
that's
certainly
an
option
we
can
put
that
in
or
not
and
by
the
way
someone
asked
about
the
drain,
we're
not
proposing
this
actual
cover.
The
cover
can
be
designed
and
we
could.
It
can
be
part
of
the
bay
village
theme.
C
So
in
regards
to
we're
not
showing
any
proposed
plantings
yet,
except
the
fact
that
we
said
we'd
have
proposing
a
couple
anchor
trees,
so
the
intent
is
to
pick
something
indigenous,
something
that
marks
a
season.
You
know
which
hazel
is
a
late
winter
blooming
tree
blooms
in
either.
You
know
late
february,
early
march,
it's
it's
gets.
People
super
excited
for
the
spring,
that's
coming
or
redbud,
which
is
really
like
the
first.
You.
D
C
One
of
the
first
trees
to
bloom
on
the
cusp
of
spring
itself,
which
is
yeah
or
we
can
go
with
something
like
a
tree
hydrangea,
which
are
all
very
similar
scale-
and
you
know
the
one
that
I
have
in
my
backyard
is
still
blooming
yeah.
So
so
it
gets
you
deep
into
the
fall
and
and
for
people
who
don't
want
to
enter
winter.
C
So
it's
yeah,
then
you're
in
the
next
page.
That
aaron
will
go
to
begins
to
talk
about
restoring
your
perennial
garden
and-
and
I
think,
annie
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting
or
the
meeting
before.
Unfortunately,
construction
is
a
messy
business
and
the
intent
is
to
put
back
what
you
have
but,
and
I've
talked
with
tom
a
few
times
out
there
and
I
know,
he's
very
involved
in
the
gardening
out
there.
C
This
is
a
sampling
of
the
majority
of
the
I'll
say
the
most
obvious
plants
that
are
there,
there's
a
lot
of
white
between
them
and
then
in
that
white
you
find
you
know
a
lot
of
vinca,
which
I'm
sure
was
intentional.
C
And
then
you
have
a
lot
of
volunteers,
either
invasive
plants
which
are
doing
what
they
want
to
do
or
plants
that
have
spread
themselves
around.
So
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
flocks
and
such
and
ground
elder
has
sort
of
escaped,
probably
their
intended
location,
and
so
the
intent
is
for
you
for
you.
This
is
sort
of
an
active
diagram.
C
The
intent
is
for
you
to
take
this
and
say:
well,
you
just
missed
my
favorite
plant
right
here
and
we
would
appreciate
it
for
you
to
say
this
is
my
favorite
plants
right
here.
You
missed
it
and
we
want
to
see
this
one
back
there.
It
or,
like
john
said
you
know,
one
of
these
plants
have
gotten
completely
out
of
control,
we'd
like
to
see
a
lot
less
of
it,
so
he
might
actually
in
that
case
say.
C
Please
don't
put
this
one
back,
and
so
it's
for
you
to
all,
especially
the
people
who
are
involved
in
gardening
to
to
weigh
in
and
say
yeah.
We
don't
want
this
one
back.
So
when
you
create
a
planting
plan
to
restore
the
garden,
we
want
this,
and-
and
we
don't
want
that-
so
please
take
a
look
at
it,
print
out
a
little
copy
for
yourself
and
make
some
notes
and
get
it
to
us.
C
A
I
should
also
respond
to
two
comments
in
the
in
the
earlier
section
talking
about
incorporating
some
kind
of
reference
to
the
film
industry
in
the
decorative
elements,
such
as
the
gates
or
the
drain.
C
A
I
think
that
is
a
great
idea
and
really
helps
the
narrative
of
the
park,
so
we
can
see
what
we
can
do
with
that.
But
and
john.
I
saw
your
comment
about
the
benches
and
ifa's
comment
that
we
had
talked
about
actually
all
the
way
along
it
that
if
we
put
in
benches,
we
would
put
in
a
center
arm
rest
so
that
it
makes
it
very
difficult
to
lay
down
there,
but
we're
certainly
taking
that.
A
Well,
I
think
that
we
can
find
solutions
to
this
so
that
we
won't
have.
We
won't
be
encouraging
people
to
stay
in
the
park
and
it
may
be
that
the
solution
is
not.
You
know
an
eight
foot
long
bench
with
a
center
armrest.
It
may
be
that
it's
two
separate
individual
seats.
A
You
know
two
feet
wide:
two
and
a
half
feet
wide,
with
an
occasional
table
in
between
them
and
I've
seen
that
work
well
in
other
places.
C
What
I
meant
about
talking
to
the
parks
department,
john,
is
is,
is
the
parks
department
do
have
certain
standards
for
benches
and
I'm
sure,
I'm
sure
during
the
next
stage
and
getting
to
the
specification
portion
of
it?
The
strap
benches
are
being
discussed
now.
But
but
you
know,
I
know
the
box.
Barn
has
several
type
of
benches,
so
no
panics,
yet.
A
And
do
more,
who
makes
the
eight
foot
benches
that
were
shown
in
the
presentation
also
makes
matching
individual
seats
with
side
tables,
and
the
side
tables
are
great
not
just
for
eating,
but
for
a
diaper
bag,
or
you
know
a
little
thermos
or
coffee.
C
A
So
I'll
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
the
the
schematic
cost
breakdown
and
I'll
start
by
saying
that
we're
in
a
very
volatile
cost
and
delivery
environment
right
now,
you
know
the
supply
chain
is
unpredictable.
Costs
are
unpredictable,
except
they
tend
to
be
higher
than
we've
done
that,
but
then
we've
seen
before.
A
Having
said
that,
I
will
say
that
we
recently
had
two
projects
go
out
to
bid
and
the
bids
came
back
within
the
budget.
So
I
think
that
the
way
that
that
copley
wolf
has
addressed
this
is
you
know,
a
20
contingency
is
really
healthy.
Contingency
and
15
is
more
typical
in
more
normal
conditions.
A
I'll
also
say
that
you
know
we're
a
little
bit
above
our
budget,
but
we're
certainly
within
reach
and
then
jim
or
aaron
I'll
ask
you
to
address
what
ad
alternates
are
and
what
might
fall
into
that
category.
C
A
C
That
that
typically
can
run
at
you
know
10
of
the
budget,
so
we're
well
within
that
range
and
the
gateways
have
not
been
designed
yet
and
if
the
brown
fund
will
continue
to
participate
in
offering,
as
you
saw
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation,
you
know
their
funding
toward
the
park,
certainly
the
gateways
and
the
fountain
which
isn't
an
alternate,
but
those
are
two
huge
candidates
that
they're
historically
interested
in
participating
and
donating
to
the
park.
So
that
would
be
would
help
immensely
the
granite
edging
around
the
park.
C
C
Then
that's
certainly
a
candidate
to
look
at
that.
So
that
gets
us
that
would
get
us
down
to
to
a
closer
closer
to
the
budget.
A
A
And
also
there
was
no
support
for
keeping
them.
C
Yeah
and
that's
part
of
the
site,
demolition
costs
that
you
see
on
the
top
line,
so
the
intent
is
to
get
rid
of
them
and
to
really
someone
had
a
question
about
viewing
into
the
park
not
only
for
the
plants,
but
but
it
really
just
means
that
that
you
know,
if
someone's
sleeping
behind
something
in
the
plant
bit.
So
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
benefit
to
get
rid
of
them.
B
C
So
this
is
the
fir.
The
upper
left-hand
button
is
really
that's.
The
part
we'd
really
like
to
hear
from
you
in
regards
to
we're
going
to
restore
the
garden,
but
in
restoration
comes
choice,
and
so
we
want
to
know
what
your
through
your
experimentation
of,
creating
this
garden,
what
works
and
what
doesn't.
D
So
the
comment
that
I'll
have
is
the
pictures
are
beautiful
and
I
think
you've
put
a
lot
of
great
work
into
this,
but
I
really
want
to
emphasize.
It
will
all
be
all
for
naught
unless
you
absolutely
make
sure
that
we
do
not
have
seating
that
isn't
going
to
allow
homeless
people
or
other
people
to
sit
on
the
lie
down
on
those
benches,
you
know
to
inject
drugs
out
of
you.
C
D
C
Well,
the
benches
john
has
not
been
specified
yet,
and
so
your
your
point
is
well
taken
and
will
be
discussed
before
anything
is
specified.
So
yeah
I've
been
living
in
the
south
end
for
37
years
and
certainly
have
seen
the
ebbs
and
flows
of
conditions
and
yeah
I'm.
C
You
know
the
articles
daily
in
the
paper
regarding
the
mass
cast
problem
and
how
that's
really
sort
of
pushes
into
the
south
end
and
it's
the
the
treatment
facilities
around
the
hospital
etc.
It's
it's
not
it's
it's
you
know
you're,
not.
Your
comment
is
not
falling
on
deaf
hairs
and,
and
I've
experienced
it
as
well.
D
C
D
Street
south
we've
got
somebody
hanging
out
over
on
arlington
street.
So
it's
maybe
I'm
beating
a
dead
horse
here,
but
I've
raised
it
at
the
prior
meetings
and
then
and
then
I
see
something
you
know
you
know,
and
I
think
I've
referred
you
a
couple
times
to
the
seating
at
the
park.
At
the
other
end
of
bay
village.
D
It
is
on
isabella,
which
I
mean.
Ifa
can
speak
up,
speak
to
it,
but
that
seems
to
have
been
designed
in
a
way
that
is
relatively
effective
and
not
getting.
You
know
a
homeless
hangout
not
withstanding.
The
fact
that
it
frankly
would
seem
to
be
a
perfect
place
for
that.
Just
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
residential
oversight.
C
Yeah
keep
in
mind
too,
even
though
that
was
a
very
nicely
rendered,
drawing
that
that
that
aaron
put
together
it
is
not
the
final
design.
It's
really
meant
to
provide
with
some
clarity
what
what
the
intent
of
what
will
be
there
eventually
without
it
being
the
final
design.
So
so
again,
john,
your
comments
are
well
taken
and
and
the
final
devil's
in
the
details,
as
you
know,
and
and
that's
not
there
yet.
D
The
other
thing
I'll
say
is
that
the
table
we
have
had
a
table
recently
and
that's
an
additional
if
I'm
not
mistaken
from
the
to
this
summer-
and
it's
been
enormously
successful,
I
think
in
promoting
increased
use
of
the
park.
D
So
I
think
that's
just
another
reason
to
sort
of
put
a
positive
spin
on
them
as
opposed
to
a
negative.
To
really
have
the
seating,
be
the
two
chairs
on
the
table,
as
opposed
to
the
bench.
C
Well,
someone
did
have
a
comment
about
permanent
seating
and
you
know
a
lot
of
the
furniture
you're.
Mentioning
is
you
know
the
movable
furniture
which
which
in
many
ways,
if
you've
been
to
parks
with
movable
furniture,
ends
up
being
the
most
successful,
because
people
bring
it
into
the
shade
gather
around
there's
four
people:
there's
six
people,
those
two
people
so
in
a
way,
that's
the
most
successful
and
I
think
the
granite
blocks
that
are
probably
comfortable
enough
to
sit
on
for
short
term.
C
C
D
Yeah,
I
mean
you
know
again
I
eva
to
to
pipe
up
here
since
she
she
sees
that
more,
but
I've
not
at
least
myself,
seen
much
homeless
use
of
that
of
that
park.
And
I
attribute
that
in
part
to
the
to
the
to
the
seating.
C
Well,
and
and
probably
the
fire
department,
being
there
too,
so
there's
at
least
some
perceived
eyes
on
the
park
all
the
time
you
know
at
the
most
you
know
the
the
happiest
parks
parks
are
probably
the
parks
that
have
the
most
eyes
in
them,
and
unfortunately,
this
park's,
probably
is
is
the
lacking
eyes
with
that,
with
dormant
church
and
and
the
building
that
has
the
windows
blacked
out
and
south
street,
which
is
south
charles,
which
is
more
like.
I
need
to
get
somewhere,
not
the
park.
D
Although
the
fire
department
doesn't
really
directly
overlook
the
of
the
isabella
park,
I
don't
believe
there
are
any
windows
on
this
side
of
the
building
that
faces
well.
C
They're
sort
of
like
offices
there
and
they
have
some
bunker
windows,
and
I
I
worked
in
the
building
across
the
street
from
there
in
an
architect's
office
for
eight
years
before
they
moved
to
south
boston
and
and.
C
We
often
chastise
the
fire
department
to
change
their
flag
when
it
was
ripped
up
and
sort
of
things.
You
know
they're,
not
the
most
diligent
people,
but
but
I
th
again,
the
key
word
was
perceived
and
to
have
someone's
eyes
in
the
park
is
works
a
little
bit
more
toward
a
deterrent
than
if
no
one's
eyes
is
there.
So
so
that's
very
good
comments.
F
Hello,
oh
hi.
I
did
want
to
follow
up
for
john
and
I
agree.
Yes,
the
isabella
street
park
does
have
the
single
chairs,
which
are
terrific
and
we
do
attract
actually
a
fair
amount
of
homeless
people,
but
I
even
think
they
are
more
respectful
because
of
the
single
chairs,
and
you
know
we
have
some
issues,
but
there's
enough
other
people
helping
clean
up.
So
it
doesn't
look
as
bad.
It
doesn't
look
good
and
get
encampments,
so
it
is
definitely
an
option
to
look
into
the
single
chair
option
more
under
tables.
D
The
other
thing-
maybe
somebody
else
can
speak
to
this.
I
wasn't
part
of
the
original,
you
know
sort
of
petition,
but
when,
when
that
request
was
made
for
permanent
seating,
I
don't
know
that
we
had
at
that
time.
The
experience
with
the,
in
fact,
I'm
pretty
sure
we
didn't
have
the
experience
with
the
sort
of
movable
table
and
chairs
which
has
really
increased
the
usage
this
summer.
I
think
that
request
might.
F
Yes,
have
that
then,
but
we
do
want
to
what
came
up
sean
about
the
and
everyone
else
about.
The
permanent
chairs
is
during.
We
learned
during
covert
that
an
awful
lot
of
people
still
wanted
to
go
out
and
meet
at
parks,
even
in
the
very
cold
weather,
because
we
were
all
stuck
home
and
we
needed
somewhere
to
sit
briefly,
not
for
any
period
of
time.
But
it
was
nice
to
have
something
permanent
and
not
feel
like
the
park
are
being
cleaned
out
of
that
furniture.
D
F
But
that
was
earth,
one
of
the
many
motivations
for
that
and
I
I
came
keep
I
suggested
always
like
a
sloped
wall
or
something
that
someone
could
sit
on
temporarily.
You
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
comfortable
thing.
It's
you're
meeting
people,
so
that
was
the
purpose
of
that.
C
C
Exactly
exactly
yes,
yeah
again,
it
creates
some
sort
of
built
animation
to
a
park
that
would
nor
is,
as
often
you
know,
not
having
people
in
it.
They
have
a
cha
objects
that
are
scaled
and
objects
that
are
vertical
and
horizontal.
C
C
There
you
go
right
there,
so
you
know
it's
people,
wouldn't
sleep
on
that
sort
of
thing
and
that's
and
again
that's
it
could
be
slightly
longer
slightly
shorter,
slightly
thinner
or
wider,
but
you
we
these
happen
to
be
recycled.
C
Granite
blocks,
there's
lots
of
them
that
we've
we've
used
these
on
projects,
but
we
were
thinking
that
you
know
it
this
park
here,
maybe
they're
more,
a
little
more
refined
in
regards
to
that
not
split
face
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
but
yeah
you
could
obviously
no
one's
gonna
sleep
on
this
one
and
and
if
you,
if
you
just,
can
go
to
the
plan
really
quickly,
aaron.
D
C
There
yeah,
you
can
see
those
you
know,
those
benches
are
those
are
about
four
feet
wide
and
I
mean
long
and
you
know
the
curb
that
curb
being
about
a
foot
is
about
another
six
inches
beyond,
so
no
one's
going
to
be
sleeping
on
those,
and
we
showed
two
just
because
it's
bracketing
the
fountain
and
and
the
lighting,
so
it
has
like
a
little
family
of
vertical
objects
happening
there,
which
would
provide
that
sort
of
inert
animation
of
the
park
rather
than
people,
and
you
know
one
or
two
more
could
be
added
and
maybe,
instead
of
those
strap
benches,
maybe
there's
a
couple
added
on
the
other
side
too.
C
D
So
those
are
those
are
four
feet.
Long
as
as
displayed
there.
C
F
And
james,
the
other
benefit
I
want
to
just
mention
of
having
those
kind
of
benches
and
features
is
that
if
you
walk
into
the
park
and
all
the
other
chairs
are
occupied
and
you
have
to
stand
around
that
could
feel
less.
I
know
it's
less.
I
think
it's
not
as
nice
when
you
have
somewhere
else
to
go
as
a
group,
you
can
stand
aside
and
you're,
not
interfering
or
loping
near
people
which
I
think
can
be
intimidating
if
you're
a
family
or.
C
F
F
F
C
Thing
just
looking
at
this,
you
know
it's
not
a
very
big
park.
As
you
all
know,
it's
it's
a
small
space
and
putting
things
in
it
where
you
cannot
stand
around
and
share
time,
like
permanent
benches,
that
just
takes
away
from
the
square
footage
of
the
park
in
a
way
and
by
having
it
incorporated
into
the
edge.
A
D
F
D
F
E
E
I
I
had
a
question
about
like
the
length
of
the
restored
fountain,
because
I
taught
hearing
about
like
permanent
steaming.
I
think
it
could
be
if
it's
wide
enough,
like
some
of
the
granite
benches
there.
If
it's
wide
enough,
it
could
also
provide
another
opportunity
for
people
to
quickly
sit
down
and
chat
and
kind
of
have
with
the
sounds
of
the
the
water
behind
them.
E
C
Well,
one
thing
about
this:
fountain
like
we're,
calling
it
the
restored
fountain
which,
if
you
go
over
to
ringgold
park,
you'll
see
that
a
new
fountain
was
put
in
and
it
has
a
basin
and,
and
it
does
things
you
know,
the
water
comes
out
in
different
areas
and
there's
granite
blocks
around
it,
so
you
can
actually
sit
around
it
and-
and
it's
also
interactive
kids-
push
the
button.
Water
comes
out
of
certain
parts
of
the
fountain.
C
So
in
a
way
we
are
restoring
what
you
see
in
the
upper
left-hand
corner
and
putting
it
on
a
granite
base,
but
perhaps
in
yeah
that
can
be
reviewed
you
know
is,
is
can
this
be
a
different
fountain?
I
mean
people
when
we
had
the
initial
meetings
and,
and
the
surveys
were
taken,
people
did
state
what
they
really
liked.
Oh
please
do
this.
C
Please
do
that,
and
one
of
them
was
I
we
like
the
fountain
we'd
like
it
to
work
all
the
time,
sort
of
thing
and
tom
contributing
saying
well,
the
guts
of
it
are
really
shot
and
and
it's
intermittent
at
times.
C
So
so
if
people
have
comments,
they
should
get
them
to
the
parks
department
about
you
know
whether
or
not
people
are
actually
married
to
this
particular
fountain.
F
I
don't
think
people
mind
the
look
of
the
fountain.
I
think
it's
very
attractive
when
it
fits
well
with
the
neighborhood,
but
I
think
people
are
very
open
from
what
I've
heard
over
the
years
open
to
any
number
of
features.
I
think
irrigation
and
use
of
the
water
will
be
good
and
recycling
was
the
big
features
people
weren't
interested
in,
but
I
think
it's
perfectly
attractive
if
it
can
be
used
in
a
fun
way.
That
would
be
great,
but
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
push
super
expenses
where
you
know
where
it's
not
needed.
C
Well,
I
like
the
idea
of
the
opportunity
of
perhaps
of
sitting
around
it
in
some
capacity
and
and
that
can
be
looked
at
being
someone
who's
now
having
a
new
rail
fabricated
for
a
stair
in
the
south
end
head
up
at
our
house
and
once
you
remove
iron
work,
it'll
be
up
to
the
iron
guy
to
say,
like
he
did,
for
our
handrails
saying
yeah,
you
can't
put
this
one
back.
C
You
need
a
complete
rebuild
and
for
I
don't
know
what
the
what
the
diagnosis
is
going
to
be
of
this
fountain
once
they
take
it
apart,
get
it
to
a
shop,
they
might
say
yeah
you're,
not
using
this
thing
so
so
to.
F
C
No,
that
was
the
next
one:
okay,
wow,
you
go
back
to
where
we
stopped
and
I
think
that's
you
know,
annie's
pitch.
A
So
that
excuse
me,
that's
just
a
repeat
of
the
schedule
and
we're
really
looking
forward
to
getting
this
big
package
out
and
seeing
what
happens.
A
So
we
can
all
start
praying
to
the
construction
gods
that
we
get.
Somebody
really
good.
F
Annie,
you
may
want
to
appoint
some
a
committee
or
somewhere
a
group
of
people
to
help
communicate
with
the
neighborhood
when
that
construction
is
going
on,
because
equipment
will
disrupt
people
coming
in
from
melrose,
yep
and
stuff.
So
we
may
want
to
you
know,
ease
some
of
that
with
you.
A
I
think
you're
right
that
the
community
communication
is
key
and
living
right
on
top
of
construction
is
always
difficult.
But
if
you're
familiar
with
the
project
page
on
the
city's
website,
okay,
okay,
we
can
put
updates
there,
okay,
and
we
do
that
regularly
and
then
that
doesn't
put
any
burden
on
anybody
in
the
neighborhood.
E
A
F
F
D
The
designs
are
beautiful.
I
I
really
appreciate
that
effort.
As
I
say,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
inadvertently
get
ruined.
C
A
One
thing
that
makes
me
very
pleased
is
that
each
iteration
has
become
simpler
and
more
in
character
with
the
best
of
what's
there.
So
I
think,
that's,
I
think,
that's
terrific
and
consistent
with
what
we
were
hearing
from
the
neighborhood.
F
And
from
my
point
of
view,
I
feel
the
design
is
very
much
what
we
were
asking
for,
and
you
know
you've
given
us,
so
many
great
professional
sort
of
views
on
how
to
make
the
part
more
beautiful
and
more
enjoyable
for
everyone.
So
I
think
it'll
be
a
nice
and
simple
is
good,
so
yeah,
I
think
that'll
be
wonderful
when
it
all
comes
to
pass.
So
it
looks
good.
Thank
you
for
the
great
work
you've
all
put
into
it
and
for
listening.
A
We
appreciate
so
much
your
time
and
insights
because,
as
I
said
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
project,
we
can
bring
our
professional
expertise
to
the
project,
but
you
all
know
the
park
better
than
well.
We
know
it
and
it's
there's
been
really
great
participation
and
we're
grateful
to
people
for
giving
up
their
time.
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
kind
comments
and-
and
I
think
we
we
also
agree
simple
simple
is
b-
is
good.
Louis
armstrong
of
park,
design.
F
So
what
would
the
next
stage
is
for
us
as
a
neighborhood?
Do
we
have
a
pre-construction
demolition
meeting,
or
what
do
we
do
well.
E
A
I'll
give
you
a
heads
up
that
you
know
once
the
bids
are
in
and
we
have
a
successful
bidder.
It
takes
quite
a
while
for
that
contract
with
the
contractor
to
go
through
the
legal
channels
and
finance.
C
And
nanny
what's
the
process.
Obviously
this
is
final
concept
right.
It
shows
the
geometries
it
lays
out
at
a
scale
it.
It
shows
some
some
planned
details
without
having
the
real
details.
You
made
some
slight
modifications
from
all
these
comments.
We're
actually
going
to
produce
a
set
of
documents.
E
C
This
in
a
sequential
process,
with
the
parks
department,
does
the
neighborhood
get
another
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
what
that
final
set
is
before
not
before
it
goes
to
bid,
but
perhaps
you
know
one
step
before
it
finally
goes
out
to
bed.
A
A
C
Okay,
certainly
I'm
always
open
for
communication,
we're
not
hiding
anything
so
because
this
is
a
little
bit
unique
in
that
we
are
restoring
your
perennial
garden.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
get
that
right,
and
so
that's
why
I
think
it's
important
that
you
look
at
that
list,
that
I
created
a
plan
list
and
and
say,
and
it
do
exactly
what
I
just
said
like
you
missed
my
favorite
plant
or
or
I
know
that's
there,
but
we
wish
it
weren't
those
kind
of
things,
because.
F
C
F
Big
deal,
but
there's
quite
a
few
of
us
would
be
very
interested
carol
and
people
who
are
very
interested
and
it
would
be
a
productive
meeting
that
way
in
the
sense
he'd,
be
you
get
good
feedback
for
that,
and
you'll
be
able
to
keep
an
eye
on
those
pesky
issues
that
come
up
that
you
maybe
we've.
You
know
that
we
can
look
at.
You
know
physically.
C
F
C
Any
we're
perfectly
willing
to
to
work
outside
the
margins
for
that
because,
as
you
know,
we're
going
to
create
a
planting
plan
you
saw
on
the
budget,
we
thought
that
might
be
as
much
as
64
000
worth
of
plants
thrown
around
there.
You
know
we
don't
we
don't
want
to
do
it
willy-nilly
like
to
do
it
somewhat
surgically,
so
I'm
perfectly
willing
to
participate
in
another
meeting
to
get
that
part
right.
A
I
will
also
add
that
there's
one
there's
one
plant:
that's
existing,
that's
porcelain,
berry,
which
is
very
pretty
at
certain
times
of
the
year,
but
also
is
incredibly
invasive
and
aggressive.
And
if
you
don't
want
your
entire
plant
bed
to
be
porcelain,
berry
it's
best
to
get
rid
of
it
and
burn
it.
A
Well,
thank
you
again,
and
you
know
how
to
reach
me
yeah,
so
this
has
been
great.