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Flaherty Playground Design Meeting #3 - September 13, 2022
A
And
tonight's
meeting
and
tonight's
meeting
is
being
recorded,
so
my
name
is
B
Chatfield
and
I
am
the
parks,
project
manager,
landscape,
architect,
for
this
project,
the
William
Flaherty
playground
Park
renovation,
and
this
is
our
third
meeting
and
we're
going
to
be
having
a
fourth
one
after
this.
Usually
our
standard
meeting
is
process
is
three
design
meetings
with
the
community
and
this
one.
A
We
have
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback
in
support
of
a
dog
use
at
Flaherty
playground
and
we've
gotten
enough
feedback
and
enough
support
that
we
are
coming
back
to
the
community
so
that
we
can
have
this
conversation
with
you
tonight
and
I've
gotten
lots
of
emails
and
lots
of
suggestions
and
lots
of
recommendations,
and
so
we're
hopeful
that
tonight
is
going
to
be
a
constructive
conversation.
We
encourage
everybody
to
be,
in
my
be
mindful
of
your
neighbors
and
the
fact
that
everyone
has
opinions
here
that
should
be
respected.
A
Try
to
voice
your
opinion
respectfully
as
well.
I
realize
dog
areas
are
limited
in
the
city,
and
people
feel
pretty
strongly
about
having
a
new
dog
use.
So
again,
just
please
be
respectful,
so
I
am
going
to.
Let's
say
We'll
flick
to
the
next
screen.
A
If
we
can
Zoom
tips,
we're
going
to
ask
everybody
to
remain
muted
until
we
get
to
the
conversation
section,
we're
going
to
have
a
short
presentation
showing
the
dog
use
and
the
previous
design
moves
that
we've
made
and
then
once
you
sort
of
raise
your
hand
Christine.
Who
is
our
wonderful
moderator?
She
will
allow
you
to
unmute
yourself,
and
you
can
say
your
piece.
You
can
also
contribute
via
the
chat,
so
we
encourage
any
and
all
forms
of
participation.
A
If
we
could
go
to
the
next
screen
tonight's
agenda,
we're
going
to
do
the
project
team
introduction
the
overview,
the
design
presentation,
then
we're
going
to
get
to
the
listening
and
discussion
and
then
closing
remarks
and
next
steps
next
slide.
So
IMB
Chatfield,
there's
all
of
my
information
right
there.
Christine
brandeo
is
also
here
tonight
with
the
parks
department.
She
is
our
Outreach
coordinator.
A
We
have
Jade
Cummings,
who
is
here
from
the
design
team,
and
there
are
other
members
of
the
design
team
as
well
participating,
but
Kelly
is
not
here
tonight
and
then
Tiffany
caldero
is
also
in
in
the
crowd
tonight.
So,
thank
you
all
for
your
support
here
is
the
project
overview
I'm,
going
to
pass
this
over
to
Jade
I?
Think
right?
A
No,
we
didn't
go
through
this
sorry
schedule
funding
apologies,
so
we
had
our
first
community
meeting
in
January
of
2022
and
then
we
that
was
where
we
sort
of
presented
our
initial
site
analysis
and
where
we
heard
priorities
from
the
community
as
to
what
they
would
like
improved
upon
or
what
what
type
of
design
they
would
like
to
see
for
the
park.
A
The
second
design
meeting
was
held
in
May,
where
we
showed
three
different
options,
and
here
we
are
with
community
meeting
three
where
we've
heard
enough
support
for
a
dog
use
at
the
park
that
we
are
here
to
have
this
conversation
tonight.
Our
goal
is
to
have
community
meeting
four
occur
in
November,
and
that
is
where
we
will
take
feedback
here
tonight,
as
well
as
the
feedback
that
we
get
from
a
survey
that
we're
going
to
be
sharing
tonight
as
well.
A
A
We
will
start
construction
in
the
fall
and
there's
our
budget
there
in
red
and
then
spring
2024
is
when
the
playground
should
be
open.
Let
me
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
so
I'm
going
to
pass
this
over
to
Jade
I.
Also
I
can't
remember
if
I
already
said
this,
but
I
want
to
emphasize.
If
I
did
already
say
it.
Tonight's
goal
is
to
have
a
conversation
and
to
hear
opinions
and
thoughts
on
this
use
in
this
playground.
A
We
data
is
important,
but
numbers
don't
drive
everything
right
and
so
we're
going
to
have
a
survey
that
we
share
after
this
meeting,
where
we
hope
you'll
contribute
your
ideas
there
as
well,
but
our
decision
is
going
to
be
based
on
the
numbers
from
the
survey
and
the
thoughts
and
feelings
that
we
hear
tonight.
B
Could
be
oh
good
evening,
everyone
I
will
again
we're
going
to
keep
the
presentation
brief
many
of
you
if
anyone
attended
the
first
or
second
community
meeting.
This
first
part
is
just
a
general
overview,
the
existing
condition
summary
our
design
team
has
been
out
on
site.
We've
we've
studied
the
neighborhood.
We've
looked
at
the
the
context,
walking
distances,
some
adjacent
uses,
more
site
site
scale,
we've
evaluated
the
circulation,
vehicular
circulation,
pedestrian
circulation,
again,
understanding
the
residences
uses
in
the
immediate
area.
B
We
broke
down
this
our
site
analysis
into
open
space
edges,
and
we
really
listened
to
the
first
on
the
First
Community.
We
we
heard
clearly
how
important
the
preserving
the
existing
trees
and
the
canopy
was
to
the
majority
of
participants.
That
said,
we
early
on
worked
with
a
licensed
arborist,
in
addition
to
the
city's
tree
Warden
to
to
do
a
pretty
comprehensive
tree
analysis
to
understand
the
existing
conditions
of
each
of
the
trees
out
on
site.
B
So
this
is
a
field
survey
that
was
completed
in
addition
to
a
photo
survey
that
we
completed
to
make
sure
that
every
tree
is
documented
and
and
treated
with
treated
as
the
important
significant
feature
that
it
is.
B
After
our
analysis,
we
developed
three
concepts
that
we
presented
during
community
meeting
number
two
and
that
was
held
on
May
19th
of
this
year
and
during
that
design
meeting
we
presented
a
concept.
These
are
general
concepts,
but
the
general
concepts
were
the
Treehouse,
the
waterfall
and
the
clubhouse
during
that
meeting,
in
addition
to
feedback
that
we
received
after
the
meeting,
we
found
that
there
was
an
overwhelming
majority
that
leaned
that
preferred
The
Treehouse
concept.
B
So
that
said,
to
follow
what
B
said
during
her
introduction
after
the
community
meeting
number
two,
there
was
feedback
from
the
community
regarding
interest
in
having
a
dog
element
incorporated
into
the
project.
So
this
evening
we're
really
discussing
this
is
the
tree
concept
with
the
Treehouse
concept,
as
discussed
during
the
second
meeting,
and
then
the
next
diagram
I
will
walk
through
it's
more
of
a
technical
diagram
intended
to
outline
the
requirements
for
a
dog
element,
and
then
we
can
open
this
up
for
discussion.
B
So,
okay,
so
essentially
just
to
give
a
little
background
to
have
a
dog
element
in
a
park
very
important
to
understand
that
we
have
to
have
a
100
foot
minimum
offset
from
the
Butters,
and
that
is
indicated
by
this
dashed
Red
Line.
B
B
What
this
blue
line
is
indicating
this
is
roughly
77
500
square
feet
and
through
our
studies,
the
dog
run
pretty
much
needs
to
be
located
in
this
area
to
preserve
the
100
foot
offset
in
addition
to
the
existing
topography.
As
many
of
you
may
know,
there's
slope
in
this
area.
There
is
slope
along
Cornwall,
Street
and
Brookside
Avenue
and
again
we're
careful
to
maintain
the
existing
root,
the
root
zone
of
these
existing
trees.
B
So
that
said,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
blue
line
is
indicating
generally,
where
the
dog
element
would
be
located
and
not
forgetting
that
this
dog
element
would
need
to
be
enclosed,
which
the
character
image
is
Illustrated
in
the
two
images
on
the
right,
and
we
need
to
remember
that
we
have
to
maintain
our
handicapped
accessibility
walkways
around
the
perimeter
of
the
dog
area.
A
Thank
you,
Jade,
that's
great
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
helpful
if
we
keep
this
up
as
a
slide
during
that
conversation,
so
I
also
wanted
to
say
that
Boston
perks,
right
now
is
at
a
point
where
we
understand
from
lots
of
constituents
that
dog
areas
are
important,
and
so
we
are
trying
to
come
up
with
ways
of
accommodating
this,
and
there
is
a
possibility
in
the
future
that
shared
use
in
a
park
may
happen
similar
to
other
adjacent
municipalities.
A
I'm
speaking
about
Brookline
I'll,
be
frank
here,
you
know
they
have
a
program
where
they
have
a
Park
area
that,
from
certain
times
of
the
day,
dogs
can
use
it
off
leash
and
then
so
right
now
the
parks
department
is
not
set
up
to
do
that.
We
do
not
have
the
Personnel
or
the
positions
to
monitor
that,
and
if
we're
going
to
try
something
new,
we
want
to
do
it.
A
Well,
we
want
to
start
off
with
as
many
boxes
ticked
off
as
possible
instead
of
like
let's
try
it
cross
our
fingers
hope
it
goes
well.
A
So
this
is
right
now
we're
in
our
Capital
process
here
for
this
park,
and
this
is
what
the
parks
department
is
able
and
willing
to
offer
it's
an
enclosed
dog
area,
which
means
there's
going
to
be
some
kind
of
material
for
the
dogs
to
run
on,
and
you
know
fencing
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
it's
not
about
like
here's,
a
baseball
field
that
can
sometimes
be
used
for
dogs.
A
We
are
not
set
up
for
that
right
now,
and
so
just
so,
I
wanted
to
put
that
out
there,
because
I
know
that
that
has
been
part
of
the
conversation,
so
I'm
seeing
hands,
raised
and
I'm
going
to
step
back
and
let
people
share
their
thoughts
Christine.
If
you
want
to
start
calling
on
people.
D
Hi
there
sorry
there's
a
lot
going
on
here:
lots
of
chat
conversation
as
well,
so
just
as
he
knows,
but
but
others
on
the
phone
may
know
we're
a
Butters.
D
D
So
we
appreciate
you
know
the
need
for
for
places
for
dogs
to
to
run
as
well.
I
know
that
the
conversation
around
meeting
a
dog
runs
in
JP
has
been
a
long
conversation
and
I
really
appreciate
that
that
need
I.
Think,
however,
that
that
this
is
not
the
right
solution
for
that
need.
D
This
is,
you
know,
a
definite
problem,
looking
for
a
solution-
and
this
seems
like
I,
can
understand
why
this
seems
like
the
right
opportunity,
but
particularly
when
you,
when
you
see
what
this
proposed
space
looks
like
it,
just
takes
up
every
part
of
this
park
that
is
available
for
lots
of
different
things,
and
obviously
we
heard
a
lot
from
in
the
first
couple
of
meetings,
especially
the
first
meeting
from
kids
who
use
this,
and
that
is
seriously
baseball
space.
D
The
Kickball
space,
whatever
it
was
the
dancing
space
for
a
really
wonderful
event
that
happened
last
year.
So
again,
I
am
in
favor
of
dog
runs
I.
Just
don't
think
that
this
is
the
solution
to
the
problem.
You
know
there
may
be
a
shared
opportunity.
D
I
know
that
that
you
know
Brookline
has
an
option
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
necessarily
one
for
us
right
now,
but
okay,
so
so
anyway,
just
wanted
to
put
that
my
opinions
out
there
as
both
and
a
butter
as
well
as
a
you
know,
dog
owner,
who
understands
both
sides
of
the
of
the
issue.
So
thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
Renee
Omer,.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Omer
hat
I
live
on
Martin
Industries
and
thanks
for
the
person
who
spoke
before
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
catch
the
name
via
butter.
E
E
As
someone
who
regularly
uses
this
part,
I
know
that
many
people
use
this
park
as
an
off-leash
dog
park.
Obviously
that's
illegal,
it's
very
dangerous!
Sometimes
people
get
hurt
in
this
very
Park,
including
ion
kid
so
I'm
gonna
say
that
this
is
definitely
not
a
problem.
Looking
for
a
solution,
this
is
not
a
solution.
Looking
for
a
problem,
this
is
in
fact
a
problem
because
Jamaica
Plain
has
no
off-leash
dog
spaces
whatsoever.
E
The
people
who
use
off
leash
spaces-
you
know
I'm
saying
illegally,
but
really
that's
not
the
word
it's
like
inappropriately,
maybe
do
so
in
places
where
this
interaction
can't
be
regulated
with
a
fence
or
any
other
way.
And
it's
always
a
point
of
friction.
Ultimately,
this
happens
in
this
part.
E
It
happens
in
other
places,
and
so
there
was
a
strong
push
to
try
and
get
DCR
and
other
organizations
to
create
a
dedicated
dog
park
in
other
places,
but
all
these
fell
through
because
an
appropriate
place
was
not
found
where
the
city
and
state
agencies
could
agree
to
place
it
not
so
much
to
do
with
the
butters.
E
E
I
think
if
we
have
the
chance
to
do
this
and
the
city
is
willing
to
do
this
and
there's
facilities
to
do
this
in
terms
of
the
technical
requirements
that
enable
a
fence
or
an
off-leash
dog
area
to
be
built,
we
should
absolutely
grab
it
with
both
hands
I'm
in
full
support
of
this
I'm
I'm,
not
a
big
dog
fan,
even
though
there's
a
dog
in
my
household
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea
that
we
should
embrace,
because
there
are
someone
said
in
the
chat
and
I
think
it's
true.
E
We
have
parks
for
every
possible
application
within
a
two
block
radius,
with
the
exception
of
an
off-leash
dog
park,
and
this
may
be
small.
This
may
be
not
ideal.
This
may
be
not
everything
that
we've
hoped
for
in
terms
of
a
dog
park,
but
it
is
a
foot
in
the
door
in
a
dog
park
with
an
off-leash
area
that
people
can
use
legitimately
without
fiction,
without
the
risk
of
danger
to
other
users
and
so
on
and
yeah.
This
park
will
still
be
used
by
kids
and
it
can
be
for
everybody.
E
I
think
this
is
a
great
thing
I'm
in
full
support
of
this.
You
know
as
a
neighbor
and
immediate
area
and
I'm
going
to
stop
talking.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity.
C
A
You
thank
you.
Omar
I
also
just
wanted
to
say,
there's
a
lot
of
chat
going
on,
which
is
great
and
I
think
for
the
most
per
the
most
part,
everyone's
being
pretty
respectful
I
just
want
to
sort
of
caution.
Everybody,
like
you,
know,
come
on
now.
Magda
says
like:
let's
be
supportive.
I
know
you
guys
are
a
very
supportive
Community.
The
first
two
Community
meetings
that
we've
had
I
was
frankly
Blown
Away
by
you
know
even
the
people
who
were
disagreeing
or
disagreeing
nicely.
A
So
let's
try
and
be
the
way
that
I
know
you
guys
are
right.
So
I
also
just
wanted
to
note
that
this
area
that
we
are
talking
to
about
putting
a
dog
area
in
is
where
there
is
sort
of
the
sort
of
open
open
play
zone.
A
It
is
possible
that
we
can
put
other
play
areas
in
the
park.
You
know
this
is
this
is
not
saying
saying
that,
like
children
are
no
longer
included
in
this,
but
this
area
would
be
for
dogs,
so
you
know
there
will
be
a
degree
of
redesign
for
the
Treehouse
plan
if
we
do
incorporate
a
dog
park
in
it.
A
But
yes,
like
this,
this
flat
area
is
where
that
sort
of
open
Free,
Play
Zone
was
planned.
So
anyway,
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
So
if
we
want
to
keep
going
with
the
hands
up,
I'll
shut
up
and
step
back.
F
G
Hi,
what's
the
anticipated
capacity
that
a
7
500
square
foot
Park
would
be
able
to
support
for
dogs
and
are
there
plans
for
other
areas
where
you're
exploring
for
dog
parks.
A
That
is
a
great
question
about
capacity
I
feel
like
given
the
population
of
dogs
and
eager
dog
owners
in
this
neighborhood
I.
Don't
even
want
to
guess
what
the
like
it's
it's
going
to
be
well
used
right,
so
you
know
7
500
square
feet
is,
is
not
big,
but
it's
what
this
park
can
sort
of
accommodate
as
far
as
the
existing
trees,
the
slope,
all
these
other
things
that
we
talked
about
other
planned
dog
areas.
A
I
know
that
the
Franklin
Park
action
plan
is
talking
about
a
dog
area
as
part
of
that,
and
it
is
not
that
that's
not
like
planning
it's.
It's
there's
a
capital
project
involved
in
that,
but
they're
not
in
the
process
of
like
doing
construction
documents
and
doing
like
zoomed
in
design
work
at
this
point,
so
that's
still
like
in
the
future.
So
this
is
our
opportunity
now
at
this
park
and
I
would
say
you
know,
given
it's
it's
been
unpredictable.
A
There
have
been
a
lot
of
other
locations
that
have
been
discussed
as
dog
areas
as
one
of
our
I
think
Omar
noted.
You
know,
other
areas
have
been
talked
about
and
they
haven't
happened.
So
you
know
I
think
well,
I'd
like
to
think
that
these
dog
plans
going
forward
are
going
to
be
more
dependable.
The
future
is
unknown
right,
and
so
we
need
to
focus
on
this
park
right
here
right
now.
So.
C
H
Hi
so
I've
got
here
my
two
kids
as
well,
because
they
wanted
to
weigh
in
on
this
meeting
as
users
of
the
book
I'm
gonna.
Do
you
want
to
say?
Do
you
want
me
to
say
what
you
wanted
to
say:
I
mean
so
that
they
are.
H
They
are
worried
about
losing
the
space,
the
open
space,
where
they've
learned
to
bike
and
play
soccer
and
baseball
and
various
other
sports,
so
I
just
want
to
articulate
that
for
them
that's
been,
it
is
one
of
the
only
it's
one
of
the
only
places
that
we
have
found
that
has
offered
a
sufficient
space,
that's
flat
and
not
at
risk
with
other
bikes
where
they
have
been
able
to
do
things
like
learning
how
to
bike,
and
they
like
playing
that
so
there's
a
history,
there
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
the
kids
in
the
neighborhoods.
H
That
I
just
want
to
speak
to
make
sure
my
kids
have
their
voices
heard
on
that,
just
as
a
result,
as
a
resident.
Now,
speaking
for
myself,
I
really
understand
the
issue
and,
having
grown
up
with
dogs,
appreciate
dogs,
love
dogs
and
want
to
make
sure
dogs
have
space
where
they
can
actually
run.
H
I.
Look
at
this
design
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
small
area
and
there's
a
lot
of
like
trade-offs
that
we're
making
in
terms
of
losses
for
a
space
which
is
used
by
a
lot
of
children,
a
variety
of
different
people,
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
enclose
that
space.
I'm.
Thinking
about
my
immediate
neighborhood,
you
know
I'm
very
much
walking
distance
I'm
on
Egleston
Street
in
walking
distance
to
this
park
just
around
the
corner
from
me.
H
There's
a
vacant
lot
that
would
be
a
much
larger
space
for
a
dog
run
that
could
be
easily
enclosed
without
any
capsule
improvements,
and
it
would
make
a
perfect
spot
and
it's
owned
by
the
city
I.
Don't
what
I
don't
understand?
What
I'm
curious
about
I
guess
is
whether
that's
based
on
downpool
street
has
been
considered
to
meet
this
need,
because
it
really
would
be
a
great
spot.
It
doesn't
work
for
a
community
garden.
It's
got
a
lot
of
tree
canopy.
H
A
lot
of
people
are
already
using
that
as
a
dog
perk
and
that
spot
up
there
is,
is
it's
sort
of
I
think
it's
a?
It
could
be
a
really
ideal
use
for
that
dog
park
and
in
that
way,
we're
not
kind
of
constraining
the
use
of
that
big
open
area
which
anyway,
I
want
to
make
that
suggestion.
H
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
that's
been
considered
and
I
see
all
the
chats
and
reactions
saying
but
I'm
trying
to
think
I'm
trying
to
think
about
this
with
submission
orientation,
realizing
that
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
voices
in
this
conversation.
So
thanks
for
listening.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
one
of
the
requirements
that
Boston
Parks
is
working
with
right
now
is
that
we're
not
just
looking
to
add
a
dog
park
to
a
space
that
is
not
being
renovated.
We're
trying
to
do
it
in
a
holistic
way
so
that
essentially,
what
has
to
happen
is
a
park
needs
to
be
up
for
Capital,
Improvements
and
so
that
we
can
add
a
dog
park
in
if
that
seems
to
be
the
community
desire.
A
So
the
parks,
the
parks
right
now
that
are
sort
of
on
on
the
docket
for
renovation
are
the
ones
that,
if
we're
getting
feedback
on
we're,
considering
for
a
dog
use,
I,
don't
know
exactly
off
the
top
of
my
head.
The
spaces
that
you're
talking
about
I
know
DCR,
which
is
the
state,
owns
a
fair
amount
of
spaces
within
the
city.
A
We
have
zero
control
over
those.
As
far
as
trying
to
lean
on
the
state
to
put
dog
facilities
in
those
spaces,
we've
had
no
luck
doing
that
thus
far.
We
would
love
it
if
they
would
so
again.
A
I
I
agree
with
you
that
there
are
other
uses
that
occur
in
this
location
in
this
park
right
now.
This
is
where
kids
play
ball.
If
your
kids
learned
to
bike
here,
I
I,
respect
that
and
I
get
that
it's
a
small
Park
and
we're
in
a
small
City.
So
these
are
the
trade-offs
that
sometimes
we're
we're
addressing
and
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
now
how
what
the
pain
point
is.
A
I,
don't
want
to
put
it
that
way,
because
it
shouldn't
be
painful,
but
I
acknowledge
that
not
everyone's
Gonna
Leave
This
meeting
feeling
like
oh,
this
is
perfect
and
I
have
what
I
wanted
so
again,
thank
you
for
participating
and
I'm
gonna
shut
up
and
step
back.
F
F
A
good
space
to
put
it
because
the
space
you're
thinking
of
putting
it
in
in
some
ways,
obviously
the
most
used
Space
by
Kid
and
not
just
kids
like
other
people.
It
is
the
voice
facing
kind
of
one
of
the
main
attractions
of
the
bar,
because
not
many
parks
have
that
big
space
to
like
run
around
and
and
you're
kind
of
taking
that
away.
And
if
you
look
around
there's
a
bunch
of
places
in
JP
that
could
totally
be
used
for
dollar
clock
that
people
are
already
kind
of
using
a
dog
boxes.
I
Yeah,
oh
me,
all
right
yeah,
so
this
has
been
our
closest
playground
for
19
years
now.
Obviously,
I
don't
have
a
19
year
old
I
have
a
you,
know
a
sixth
grader
and
a
second
grader.
But
you
know
it's
been
our
closest
playground
for
19
years
and
yes,
my
kids
learn
to
bike
there
as
to
many
other
kids.
Yes,
they
roller
skate
there.
Yes,
they
use
the
playground.
We
use
it
constantly.
I
You
know,
I
really
would
love
to
be
a
big
advocate
for
dog
parks.
I
think
they're
really
really
important
for
the
dogs,
especially
because
we've
had
problems
with
Unleashed
dogs.
You
know
terrorizing
this
one
when
she
was
little
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
this
space
is
small.
The
space
is
it's
small
for
a
mixed-use
park.
It's
the
what
you're
winding
up
with
for
a
dog
run
is
small.
I
You
know,
I
know
a
lot
of
the
spaces
that
seem
really
ideal
are
owned
by
DCR,
and
that
is
really
unfortunate
because
I
wish,
as
you
said,
that
they
would
agree
to
it
because
you
know
know:
I
could
name
about
eight
spaces
off
the
top
of
my
head.
That
I
think
would
be
better
than
this
one,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
DCR
owned
and
yeah.
You
know
I
am
concerned
that
you
know
someone
said
it
way
up
in
the
chat
that
you
know.
I
This
is
very
near
Washington
Street
in
Eggleston
Square,
where
there
is,
you
know
a
lot
of
kids
of
color
who
don't
have
as
many
playgrounds
and
a
brand
new
one
would
be
amazing,
and
you
know
I
just
it
started
as
a
as
a
playground
discussion,
and
you
know
all
the
designs
were
great
for
playgrounds
I'm,
just
wondering
how
much
remains
when
you
do
this
to
get
a
small
dog
run.
I
I,
don't
know
to
me
the
trade-off
doesn't
make
sense,
but
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
really
really
want
this
dog
run
and
I
get
that
I.
Just
I'm
also
concerned
about.
You
know
there
being
a
lot
of
dogs
coming
to
the
park
and
irresponsible
owners
when
there
are
even
more
dogs
coming
to
the
park.
If
they're
going
to
have
a
water
feature
like
you
would
talk
talking
about,
you
know
the
combination
of
dogs
and
water
feature
and
small
children
sounds.
I
You
know
you
know
like
there
could
be
cleanliness
issues
if
there
are
danger
issues
for
small
children.
It
concerns
me.
You
know
this
a
little
enclosed
space.
You
know
putting
that
all
together
it
just
it
it
concerns
me
I
think
my
seven-year-old
wants
to
say
something:
I,
don't
know
what.
J
So
ask
can
I
use
the
space
constantly
like
like
you
should
be
I
go
like
once
at
like
three
times
every
week,
and
this
is
where
I
learned
to
bike
roller
skate
play
tag,
games,
soccer
and
I.
Just
like
you
grew
up
there,
so
it
would
really
be
bad,
but
that
whole
big,
like
open
space
to
just
not
be
usable
anymore,
because
there
were
plenty
of
yes.
J
There
are
plenty
of
other
spaces
that
we
could
buy
some
roller
skates,
but
like
like
Green
Street
over
there
has
yes,
you
can
background
it,
but
you
have
the
hazard
of
water
and
lots
of
other
playgrounds
of
things
like
that.
I
F
I
Yeah,
this
has
been
an
incredible
space
during
the
quarantine
for
sure
anyway.
I
appreciate
this
conversation
is
happening.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
opinions
and
a
lot
of
people
who
have
a
lot
of
stake
in
this
on
both
sides
and
many
sides,
and
not
the
two
sides.
But
you
know
with
a
lot
of
uses-
and
you
know
I
appreciate
that
you're
having
those
conversation
and
I
hope
we
can
come
to
a
solution
that
works
for
as
many
people
as
possible.
K
Oh
hi,
everybody,
my
name
is
Melissa
Hamel
and
I.
Have
a
dog,
Scout
and
I?
Have
a
son
as
well
and
I
understand
that
children
need
places
to
run
around
and
and
I
fully
support
that
I
feel
like
that.
Jp
has
a
huge
amount
of
park,
space
and
and
playground
areas
and
splash
pads
and
that's
terrific,
and
we
support
that
we're
not
trying
to
take
anything
away
from
children.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
include
the
needs
of
a
lot
of
people
in
your
community,
we're
your
neighbors.
K
We
have
needs
too,
and
we
have
been
denied
a
dog
park
for
20
years
now
we
we've
gone
through
trying
to
get
a
dog
park
over
near
Anson
Anson
Road
over
here
on
the
DCR
Parkland
that
was
denied
after
a
couple
of
people
stood
up
and
said
they
didn't
want
it
in
the
neighborhood.
K
Then
there
was
an
effort
to
put
a
dog
park
down
along
the
train
tracks,
which
is
also
DCR
land
along
Oakdale
and
again
it
was
shot
down
at
a
community
meeting.
Even
though
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who
supported
it
for
dog
parks
and
ironically,
that's
pretty
much.
The
only
people
that
go
down
there
right
now
and
use
that
area
are
people
walking
their
dogs,
dog
owners
have
been
marginalized
in
this
city
and,
speaking
from
personal
experience,
we're
really
tired
of
of
being
yelled
at
by
people.
K
If
we
try
to
exercise
our
dogs
threatened
by
animal
control
for
tickets,
because
we
go
in
the
wrong
area
and
we're
doing
the
wrong
thing,
so
it's
really
frustrating
and
I
I,
again
I
no
one's
trying
to
take
away
anything.
What
we're
trying
to
ask
here
is
for
us
to
share.
We
live
in
a
city,
we
all
live
here.
We
have
limited
resources
and
the
DCR
is
at
this
point
in
time
on
unavailable
to
us.
K
So
the
city
has
been
gracious
enough
to
help
us
and
at
least
try
to
incorporate
a
design
design
plan
that
would
work
for
everybody,
not
just
dog
owners,
but
children
as
well.
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
important
feature
of
Jamaica
Plain
in
itself
that
we,
as
neighbors,
can
get
along
with
one
another
and
find
Solutions.
K
So
please,
you
know,
let's,
let's
try
to
you,
know,
think
about
this
as
not
just
us
versus
them,
but
as
a
community,
a
community
that
that
wants
to
help
both
everybody
in
their
community
and
have
all
the
needs
addressed
so
and
I
think
that
dog
parks
are
really
beneficial
for
children.
They
can
get
to
the
the
children
can
come
over
and
learn
about
animals
and
about
about
having
healthy
relationships
with
animals.
I
think
it's
a
bonus
for
children,
so
so
I
would
really
love
it.
K
If
we
could
really
become
the
community
that
we
want
to
be
and
share
the
resources,
I
think
it's
really
important
and
Jamaica
Plain
is
the
ideal
place
to
do
this.
So
thank
you,
B
for
for
incorporating
the
design
and
thank
you
to
everyone
who
came
out
to
this
meeting
tonight.
I
really
think
it's
a
wonderful
dialogue
that
we've
opened
up
and
I
don't
want
anyone
to
feel
that
we
are
stepping
on
your
toes.
K
We
we
just
want
to
be
able
to
all
get
along
and
have
all
of
our
needs
met.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
understanding
that
I'll
tag
off
now.
A
Thanks
Melissa
I
also
just
want
to
clarify
in
case
that
in
case
that
sounded
like
this
is
a
done
deal.
We
are
eager
and
willing
and
interested
in
hearing
people's
thoughts
right,
and
the
point
of
tonight
is
to
figure
out
if
this
is
the
right
space
for
this
use
right.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
communication
in
the
chat
that
I'm
trying
to
keep
track
of
as
well.
There's
been
one
a
couple
of
requests
for
people
who
want
to
sort
of
toggle
back
and
forth
between
the
plan.
A
That
was
the
the
design
after
the
second
meeting.
This
is
going
to
be
updated,
but
if
we
could
just
toggle
back
and
forth
for
one
second
Jade,
this
is
the
Treehouse
plan,
and
this
is
what
was
being
discussed.
The
area
that
the
dog
park
would
be
the
dog
area
would
be
in
is
essentially
the
largest
flat
open
space
in
in
the
park,
so
the
large
flat
open
space
that
is,
you
know,
being
used
for
soccer
and
whatever
that
would
be
replaced
with
the
dog
use.
A
There
are
other
spaces
in
the
park
that
would
be
smaller,
that
we
would
be
able
to
design
to
accommodate
kids
and
play.
So
this
is
not
saying
all
kids
are
kicked
out
in
favor
of
dogs.
That's
not
that's,
not
what
we
would
do
here,
but
this
is
just
showing
you
if
you
know,
based
on
the
requirements
that
the
parks
department
has
for
dog
spaces.
This
is
where
it
would
be
so
I.
A
Thank
you
all
for
continuing
to
participate
and
just
wanted
to
show
that
there
is
Nuance
here
right.
This
is
not
just
like
kids
or
dogs.
This
is
just
showing
the
the
space
that's
associated
with
the
dog
use.
The
dog
use
is
more
defined.
Right
like
there
would
be.
A
And
kids
can
play
in
smaller
spaces
that
are
sort
of
more
exciting
and
more
varied
and
more
interesting.
You
know,
but
the
wide
open
flat
space
would
be
used
for
the
dog
area.
So
anyway,
if
we
go
back
to
the
people
with
their
hands
up,
Rachel.
M
Yes,
hi
am
I
unmuted,
yes,
I'm,
Rachel,
Paxton,
I
live
a
couple
blocks
away
and
I
do
walk
a
dog
that
lives
right
across
the
street
from
the
park
every
weekday,
so
I
do
see
people
in
the
park
a
lot
I
usually
walk
up
to
Franklin
Park,
but
I
walk
through
this
park
and
sometimes
I
walk
in
it
with
my
dog
and
and
they're
they're
people
with
dogs
off
leash,
all
over
Jamaica
Plain
they're,
not
they're,
not
going
away,
and
they
need
a
place
to
be,
and
so
I
definitely
agree
with
Omar
and
Melissa,
and
all
the
other
supporters
that
we
need
to
get
something
in
somewhere
as
soon
as
possible.
M
People
all
over
the
city
moved
to
Jamaica
Plain
because
of
the
Green
Space
thinking.
This
is
a
great
place
to
have
a
house
and
a
deck
and
and
and
get
a
dog,
and
then
they
find
out
that
it's
not
really
very
dog
friendly
here
and
people
get
on
your
case
and
dogs
need
exercise.
M
In
order
to
be
well-behaved
dogs,
they
need
to
be
run
and
exercise
so
that
they're,
quiet
and
tired
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
I
do
like
the
way
you've
fitted
in
there,
and
it
has
that
Arch
I
think
that's
a
nice
design
element
that
it's
not
just
one
big
square
and
while
it's
small
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
start
and
that
we
should
definitely
go
for
it
and,
like
Melissa
said
we
should
all
compromise
and
there's
actually
plenty
of
space
for
the
kids
to
play
as
well.
M
I
was
hoping
for
a
little
more.
You
know
beautification,
maybe
around
the
fence,
so
that
it,
you
know,
maybe
some
shrubs
or
vines
or
something
growing
up.
So
it
didn't
quite
look
so
ugly
around
that
fence.
M
I
think
that
would
help
a
lot,
but
in
general,
I'm
in
favor
of
this
and
I
think
the
dog
owners
will
be
responsible
and
appreciative
and
I
think
we
have
to
start
somewhere
and,
like
Melissa
said,
there's
been
so
much
work,
trying
to
get
something
going
and
we're
in
desperate
need.
So
thank
you.
C
L
N
Can't
see
me
so
I,
don't
know
what
I
look
like.
Hopefully
it's,
okay,
and
hopefully
you
can
hear
me.
N
I-
am
in
a
butter
and
I'm
in
the
park
every
day
at
least
once
two
to
three
times
a
day,
because
I
have
dogs
and
because
I
like
going
in
there,
it's
a
nice
space,
I'm
unsure
about
how
I
feel
about
the
dog
park
in
in
this
location
and
I
haven't
seen
anything
tonight.
That's
helped
me
decide
if
I'm
forward
or
against
it.
N
I
was
hoping
to
hear
about
Maybe
more
plans
of
what
the
area
would
be
like,
because
if,
if
we're
gonna
put
in
a
spot
for
dogs
and
it's
like
too
small
or
it's
gonna
be
overcrowded
or
it's
gonna
have
the
gravel
that
dogs
don't
really
like,
then
you
know
it's
probably
not
a
good
idea,
but
it
definitely
seems
like
a
place
that
can
be
shared
I'm
concerned
with
the
upgrading
of
the
current
flat
space
to
be
more
of
to
be
used
for
anything
specific
because
right
now
it
can
be
used
for
anything,
including
dogs
and
scooters
and
whatnot.
N
But
if
it's
changed
to
something,
if
there
are
basketball
courts
or
it's
like
a
really
nice
like
flooring,
sort
of
situation,
then
that
isn't
going
to
allow
dogs
to
be
on
there
anymore
and
what
myself
and
a
lot
of
the
other
dog
walkers
use
it
for
is
just
to
not
be
on
the
same
tiny
path.
All
the
time
like
some
days,
dogs
walk
on
their
business
walks
and
then
they
have
walks
where
they
can
lead
themselves
on
leash
and
so
now
there's
plenty
of
space.
You
can
go
any
which
way
you
can
go
diagonally.
N
You
can
go
around
the
fence,
you
can
just
go
wherever
you
want
and
if
there's
a
lot
of
new
structures
and
there's
a
lot
of
new
specific
uses,
then
we're
losing
the
space
that
we
have
now
for
the
for
the
dog
owners
and
the
dogs
who
are
on
leash
and
using
it
and
trying
to
share
it
the
right
way
or
the
best
way
that
we
can
I.
Don't
know
if
I
remember
any
of
my
other
thoughts.
N
A
As
far
as
the
actual
design
of
the
space
you
know,
this
meeting
is
to
talk
about
just
really
like
the
concept
and
where
it
must
be
according
to
the
parameters
that
we
have
and
the
eventual
design
of
it.
You
know
I'm,
looking
at
the
comments
here
in
the
chat
you
know
concerning
about
fence
Heights
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
those
details
would
be
developed
as
we
go,
but
you
know
some
of
that
information
would
be
developed
and
shared
at
the
fourth
design
meeting.
A
If
this
is
the
use
that
ends
up
happening
here,
you
know,
I,
think
that
it's
a
good
point
that,
like
the
current,
it's
currently
very
common
for
people
to
have
their
dogs
in
the
park
and
that
use
overlaps
with
kids
and
while
that
is
not
legal
and
I,
can't
condone
it
like.
That
is
something
that
I
have
seen
and
I
acknowledge
that
takes
place
there
and
this
use
of
the
space.
A
Is
you
know
it's
it's
different,
it's
saying
like
here's
that
area
and
the
other
areas
of
the
park,
we
we've
received
a
bunch
of
feedback
having
to
do
with
the
programming
of
the
park
and
how
a
lighter
touch
is
desired,
so
that
would
be
one
of
the
updates
that
we
would
make,
regardless
of
dog
run
or
not,
but
anyway,
I
hope
that
addresses
some
of
your
questions.
Yeah.
N
And
it
doesn't
help
help
me
decide
which
way
I
feel
about
it.
But
are
you
saying
that
right
now,
the
way
it
is
used?
It's
not
right
that,
like
having.
N
The
park:
okay,
I'm
only
talking
about
Unleashed
dogs,
so
I'm
talking
about
your
dog's
on
a
leash
and
you
let
it
or
Direction
you
want,
but
and
but
not
into
like
the
playground
area,
where
there's
structures
and
where
it's
like
I,
think
it's
the
the
mulch.
Those
are
obvious
places
where
you
shouldn't
have
your
dog
walk
around
and,
if
you
add
more
of
those
obviously
children
places,
then
people
aren't
going
to
want
dogs
on
leash
to
be
walking
diagonally
across
a
basketball
court
and
like
I'm,
not
that
we're
putting
in
a
core.
A
K
O
Hi
first
I
would
like
to
say
that,
like
the
timing
of
this
meeting
is
incredibly
inconvenient
for
a
lot
of
families
in
the
area
anyway,
at
this,
like
very
generally
time
when
people
are
trying
to
Wrangle
children,
that
is
very
difficult
and
makes
it
hard
for
everyone
to
express
perspectives
on
this.
O
O
There
are
already
lots
of
cars
flying
down
Cornwall
Street
between
Amerie
and
Washington
Street,
who
are
not
paying
attention
to
children,
as
is
let
alone,
adults
and
I'm
concerned
that
there
will
be
lots
of
traffic
coming
in
from
other
neighborhoods,
as
as
it
becomes
a
destination
I'm
concerned
about
how
that
can
contribute
to
gentrification
in
the
area
and
how
that
can
push
people
out
of
the
area
who
live
here,
as
there
is
no
as
more
as
it
becomes
more
and
more
of
a
destination,
and
people
are
pushed
out.
O
I
understand
that
people
are
gonna
like
that.
There's
not
a
dog's
first
kids
issue,
I,
think
that
is
completely
true
and
I
support
that
a
thousand
percent,
but
as
there
is
an
influx
there
is
overcrowding
and
the
use
of
that
space
becomes
very
difficult.
O
I
know
people
have
talked
about
how
like
bring
your
bring
your
children
elsewhere
or
whatever
in
this
meeting,
but
there's
overcrowding
at
other
Parks
too,
especially
as
climate
change
gets
worse,
like
spray
pad
is
a
crucial
thing
to
have
in
this
area
and
if
there's
like
nowhere
for
anyone
to
go,
if
it's
too
overcrowded
that
area,
that
space
cannot
be
like
used
by
people
who
live
in
Eggleston,
Square
in
Brookside
and
in
the
immediate
community,
and
that
those
are
the
people
who
I
think
suffer
in
that
case,.
C
P
First
of
all,
you
did
pronounce
it
right
colleague
is
correct.
I'm,
going
to
be
straight
to
the
point,
because
I'm,
a
straightforward
person
I,
have
a
lot
to
say
and
I
think
that
I
have
a
unique
perspective.
P
I'm
on
my
second
round
of
kids,
so
I
have
teenagers
now
I
have
three
grown
stepmother
to
those
I
have
had
a
dog
business,
well,
a
pet
care
business
I've,
taken
care
of
every
category
of
creature,
but
mostly
dogs
and
cats,
and
I'm,
a
dog
trainer
and
I've
had
that
business
for
over
32
years
in
Boston,
I
was
born
in
Boston
in
the
Inner
City
and
I've
been
an
RN
in
Boston
for
over
45
years.
P
So
I
bring
a
lot
of
perspective
to
this
and
I.
Don't
know
if
anybody
has
read
the
chats
I
put
in
there,
but
I
enclosed
at
least
five
articles,
I
think
more
that
are
for
Lay
People,
based
on
scientific
studies
that
prove
that
dog
parks
or
dogs
at
play
actually
help
humans,
release,
endorphins
and
serotonin.
P
To
be
close
to
dogs
at
play,
if
it's
a
safe
thing
which
an
enclosed
dog
park
would
be
I,
think
they
should,
as
a
mother
I
think
they
should
be
near
play
areas
for
children
as
a
pet
care
owner
I
just
had
knee
surgery
this
year,
but
when
I'm
back
to
tip
top
shape,
I
have
walked
seven
dogs
at
a
time
through
this
Clarity
Park
on
leash
and
I've
always
encountered
other
dogs
in
there.
No
matter
what
time
of
the
morning
afternoon
or
evening,
I
am
there?
Okay
and
I
I
live
a
bit
away.
P
I
live
on
near
English
High.
This
should
be
the
first
of
many
dog
parks.
Since
we
have
the
most
dogs
for
a
single
zip
code
that
are
registered
in
Boston.
This
should
be
only
one
dog
park.
It
might
be
small.
We
need
other
types
of
dog
parks
in
JP,
but
this
is
a
great
idea
to
have
a
mixed
use
thing
and
I
hope
people
do
peruse.
The
articles
that
I
did
send
and
having
grown
up
in
the
inner
city
and
I'm
not
being
mean
about
this
I
saw
her
in
the
chat.
P
Somebody
said
something
about
noise
from
dog
parks,
I'm
going
to
say
something
to
you
as
an
inner
city
person
who
loves
living
in
the
city,
and
if
you
think
that
the
din
from
a
dog
park
is
is
bad
for
you,
then
I
would
say
flip
your
condo
or
your
home
and
move
to
The
Burbs
of
the
countryside,
because
Sirens
are
coming
through
here.
They're
working
doing
work
projects
at
all
hours
of
the
day
and
night,
a
city
it
can
be
a
noisy
place.
P
I
love
the
noise
of
a
city,
I
thrive
on
it
and
inner
city.
People
do
I,
don't
think
a
dog
park
has
I
I've.
There
is
a
I
came
from
the
south
end
in
October
of
2017
to
JP
and
I
should
have
come
there,
a
lot
sooner
I'm
a
JP
or
throw
and
throw,
but
in
the
South
End
Peters
Park.
There's
a
dog
park
there,
there's
I've
been
to
other
dog
parks,
I,
don't
think
they're,
particularly
noisy
and
I,
think
that
people
kind
of
police,
their
dogs,
so
that
really
isn't
a
consideration.
P
Also
responsible
dog
owners
pick
up
and
trash
can
not
be
an
issue.
It's
an
issue
where
kids
play
to
and
where
people
walk,
that's
not
a
reason
not
to
have
a
dog
park,
but
the
other
thing
is
people
who
grew
up
in
the
city
and
are
as
old
as
me,
because
I'm
in
my
Stitch
deck
I'm
between
60
and
70,
now
God
I'm
getting
up
there,
but
I
can
keep
up
with
my
teenagers.
P
I
will
tell
you
this
that
when
I
grew
up
in
the
South
End
in
Roxborough
area,
when
people
started
using
Parks
crime
went
down
in
those
parts,
it
is
a
crime
deterrent
to
have
people
walking
through
parks
with
dogs
on
leashes
and
having
dogs
at
play.
It
really
keeps
down
crime
happening
in
Parts.
It
happened
in
Blackstone
Park
if
you're
familiar
with
the
south
end
and
and
the
park
across
the
street
Franklin
Square
Park,
not
Franklin
Park,
and
it
happened
in
the
in
the
southwest
Carter.
P
It's
a
deterrent
and
I've
been
part
of
the
cell
phone
was
called
I'm
a
volunteer
there
and
I'm
on
pmac
the
advisory
committee.
Since
89.90
and
I
can
tell
you
that's
a
big
deterrent
having
people
with
dogs
around.
P
It
is
so
beneficial
in
the
city
to
it's
just
a
joy
to
walk
dogs
up
Watch
Dogs
at
play,
even
if
you
don't
have
dogs
and
I'm
going
to
say
this
as
a
dog
trainer,
if
you
don't
care
for
dogs
or
if
you're
worried
about
dogs
a
well
exercise
dog
is
a
much
better
behaved
dog,
so
we
need
more
dog
parts
for
even
people
who
don't
like
dogs,
it's
it's
a
benefit
to
them
too
inadvertently
and
that's
what
I
have
to
say.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
F
G
Q
Q
It's
affordable,
housing
and
and
unfortunately,
was
developed
without
any
open,
Green
Space.
So
we
have
I,
think
20
plus
households
here
in
this
affordable
housing
complex
without
any
real
Green
Space
to
speak
of
and
so
I.
Q
In
my
mind,
this
community
here
is
one
of
the
greatest
stakeholders
in
terms
of
the
future
of
this
land
and
I'm
concerned
I'm
concerned
about
constraining
that
that
section
of
the
park
constraining
the
use
of
it,
partly
because
you
know
I
understand
that,
there's
a
play
area
for
children,
but
there's
there's
also
you
know
children
also
grow,
grow
older,
become
teenagers
and
want
to
play
sports
or
or
do
or
do
other
types
of
things
with
the
land.
Q
So,
that's
something
that
that's
just
on
my
mind
as
we're
talking
and
I
think,
maybe
more
more
importantly,
I
I,
just
I'm
curious
about
maybe
having
a
more
strategic
process
for
Gathering
feedback
around
the
use
of
this
land,
a
process
that
may
be
you
know
proactively
solicits
feedback
through
a
survey
or
or
meetings
or
something
with
folks
in
multi-family
housing
complexes
where
there
really
isn't
any
access
to
land,
because
the
folks
who
I
think
you
know
don't
have
backyards
or
or
land
of
their
own
really
are
the
greatest
stakeholders
in
this
and
and
I
I.
Q
R
R
Fact
of
the
matter
is
a
lot
of
our
nearby
land
is,
is
owned
by
DCR
and
that's
just
a
non-starter
that
we,
we
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
work
with
them
I'm
using
some
of
that
space.
What
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
is
to
look
at
this
plan
and
to
thank
the
city
for
considering
finally,
a
space
where
we
can
freely
walk.
Have
our
dogs
play
that's
something,
as
Melissa
has
said
in
as
Omar
has
said,
that's
something
that
we've
been
after
for
such
a
long
time.
So,
let's
thank
the
city.
R
Take
advantage,
keep
on
with
b
and
the
other
people
on
the
staff
to
work
with
you
all
as
you
design,
and
continue
to
refine
the
design
and
make
a
place
that
we
can
have.
Finally,
have
our
dogs
without
threat
of
being
ticketed,
because
our
dogs
are
off
leash,
that's
one
thing
and
the
other
thing
I
really
want
to
to
say-
and
this
is
just
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
R
We
really
need
to
stop
looking
at
this
as
a
US
versus
them.
Children
versus
dog
dichotomy,
because
that's
not
what
it
is,
as
Melissa
said,
we
all
have
needs
and
we
need
to
come
together
and
we
need
to
each
give.
We
need
to
compromise.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
I'm
really
happy
that
the
family,
who
spoke
that
the
children
who
spoke
said
how
important
the
park
was
to
them
during
the
pandemic.
R
We
want
to
be
responsible
to
families
as
well
and
having
this
space
is
the
beginning
of
us
being
able
to
do
that
safely
in
in
in
concert
in
community,
and
so
I
just
really
want
people
to
think
about
that.
You
know
this
was
how
we
comforted
ourselves
during
the
pandemic,
and
we
just
want
to
continue
being
responsible
to
the
community
and
to
our
pets,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
us
this
opportunity.
S
So
my
name
is
Gabe
I'm
using
my
Mom's
computer.
So
that's
why
it's
Christine,
but
I'm
gonna.
Try
to
make
this
quick
I
see
a
lot
of
of
dogs
when
I
go
there
every
day
at
the
dog
park
and
they
like
don't
have
a
lot
of
space
to
like
run
around
and
like
do
everything
because,
like
there's
a
lot
of
kids
there
and
stuff,
so
yeah
I,
really
like
that
idea
of
the
the
dog
run.
S
But
then
also
my
school
like
and
I
know
a
couple.
Other
schools
use
this
place
for
recess
and
like
it's,
the
playground
is
fun,
but
it's
also
fun
to
like
play
on
the
field.
So
it
would
be
cool
if,
like
there
was
also
like
it
could
be
littler,
but
a
little
place
for
like
us
to
like
do
like
some
like
do
like
like
basketball
or
soccer,
or
something
like
yeah
and
that's
it.
S
F
A
Thanks
Gabe
I
just
want
to
pause
for
one
second,
looking
at
the
chat
there's
a
lot
of
concerning
questions
having
to
do
with
the
volume
of
people
that
are
going
to
flood
this
park,
if
and
when
it
is
renovated,
either
with
or
without
a
dog
run,
and
we
cannot
speak
to
statistically
what
that
is
going
to
be
like
there's,
no
real
way
to
model
that
that
I'm,
aware
of
so,
we
can't
provide
data
for
that.
A
But
I
also
want
to
say
that,
like
there,
everyone
is
aware
I,
think
of
the
parking
constraints
throughout
the
city.
A
A
My
anticipation
is
that
everyone
in
the
neighborhood,
that's
within
walking
distance,
that
has
a
dog,
would
bring
their
dog.
If
that
means
that
would
be
overwhelming
the
space
that
could
happen,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
it's
realistic
to
anticipate
that,
like
all
of
a
sudden
parking
is
going
to
be
a
nightmare,
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
learning
curve
there.
A
F
T
Hello
good
evening,
everyone
so
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone.
That's
come
up
so
far
that
has
expressed
their
concerns
versus
whether
it
be
Pros
or
cons
to
the
dark.
The
dog
park
or
potential
dog
park.
I
will
say
that
the
concern
that
I
have
is
it's
not
about
the
dogs,
not
just
about
the
dog
owners.
It's
what
happens
when
there's
an
incident.
You.
T
From
you
know,
if,
if
dogs
are
being
picked
up
after,
if
there's
trash,
what
we're
having
again,
that's
not
any
one
specific
person's
fault
but
also
like
say,
there's
an
instance
for
some
reason:
there's
a
dog
that
either
have
been
another
dog
bit
another
person
whatever
have
you
I,
think
that
you
know
and
I
don't
know
what
the
the
you
know.
T
If
there's
a
dog
bite
or
something
is
it
an
automatically
call
9-1-1
like
I,
don't
know
what
the
process
is,
but
I
do
think
some
education
for
both
owners
of
dogs,
as
well
as
folks
that
don't
have
dogs
will
be
helpful.
So
we
understand
kind
of
what
the
rules
are.
What's
the
process
what's
the
way
to
deal
about,
you
know
when
there
is
an
incident,
and
you
know
if
if
we
think
this
is
not
safe,
this
does
move
forward.
T
Is
there's
going
to
be
something
where
owners
are
registering
their
dogs
or
is
there
a
way
to
contact
the
dog
owners
and
I
think
about
like
if
you,
if
you're,
not
getting
used
to
a
Facebook,
post
or
next
door
post
and
something
happen?
You
know
each
party
went
their
separate
way,
but
then
they
got
home.
They
realized
that
they
had
a
dog
bite
and
now
they
don't
know
how
to
contact
that
owner.
T
You
know
and
I
think
these
are
things
that
would
be
helpful
to
help
ease
some
of
the
concerns
with
the
dog
park
with
dogs
and
kids
playing
so
closely
together.
T
I
do
think
there
are
benefits
of
the
dogs
exercising
I,
think
their
benefits
to
kids
being
able
to
interact
with
dogs
at
an
early
age
and
not
you
know,
grow
up
with
the
fear
of
dogs
or
what
have
you
but
I
do
think
that
a
lot
of
it's
working
on
both
sides,
everyone
working
together
so
there's
an
education
that
happens
and
we're
in
agreement
as
to
what
what
are
the
next
steps,
if
there's
an
incident,
how
do
we
address
it?
How
do
I
reach
those
owners?
T
You
know
if
you
have
a
dog,
that's
overly
aggressive.
What
are
the
steps
for
that
particular
job?
Is
it?
You
know
three
strikes
you're
out:
whatever
happened
again:
I
don't
want
to
over
police
it,
but
I
do
think
we
have
to
have
those
kind
of
discussions
and
before
moving
forward,
because
I
think
that
would
that
I
know
for
myself.
That
would
help
you
some
of
my
concerns,
but
I
do
think
there
is
a
need.
I.
T
Do
think
that
you
know
when
when
folks
are
saying,
oh
this
park
is
underutilized
or
what
have
you
I
can
tell
you
as
a
parent.
There
are
a
lot
of
times
where
I
don't
take
my
kids
to
certain
places
like,
for
example,
the
tennis
courts
by
new
Mitten
Street,
that's
kind
of
like
a
dog
run
area
during
certain
parts
of
the
day.
T
If
you
you
go
by
the
train
tracks
across
from
Stony
Brook
right
along
outside
that
lower
area
of
the
park,
I,
don't
necessarily
have
my
kids
to
run
around
if
I'm,
not
there,
because
I
don't
know.
What's
going
to
happen
if
a
dog
is
being
overly
aggressive,
if
the
owner
is
not
paying
attention
and
even
at
Flaherty
Park
same
thing,
I
remember:
we
used
to
ride
our
bikes
there
A
lot
of
times,
but
sometimes
we
go
in
and
we
see
a
few
dogs
are
already
running
around
off
leash.
We'll
make
it
a
point.
T
You
know
what
we'll
come
back
another
time
so
seeing
a
park
under
utilize
that
might
be
what's
happening
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
any
taller,
that's
going
to
be
able
to
handle
their
own
if
they
get
into
some
kind
of
a
scrap
of
the
dog.
So
those
are
the
concerns.
So
thank
you
for
everyone.
I
think
this
is
great
dialogue.
I
think
we
can
coexist.
I
just
think
we
need
to
have
some
additional
discussions
to
understand
how
we
move
forward.
T
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Dale
I
just
want
to
say
that,
as
far
as
you
know,
we
would
be
installing
signage
on
these
on
these
areas.
If,
if
we
do
this-
and
you
know
it's
really
up
to
everybody
who
uses
them
to
be
good
citizens
and
police,
their
dogs-
and
there
is-
you
know,
3-1-1
or
worst
horrible
case
scenario-
9-1-1-
if
something
terrible
were
to
happen,
but
you
know
Parks
is
not.
A
We
would
not
be
actively
policing
these
spaces,
but
we
would
be
posting
clear,
legible
signs
in
numerous
Community
languages
explaining
what
the
expectations
are.
There
would
be
trash
disposal
as
well
and
dog
bags
available.
That
was
a
question
as
well,
so
if
you
want
to
keep
going
with
hands.
A
V
I
am
I
unmuted,
yes,
okay,
I
live
on
Cornwall
Street,
about
two
houses
from
the
park.
I
have
a
dog
and
we
walk
alongside
or
through
the
park
nearly
every
day
and
I.
V
Don't
really
see
that
many
off-leash
dogs,
there
I
have
to
say
I
I'm,
not
saying
that
there
aren't
any,
but
by
and
large
they've
been
on
leash
and
I'm
wondering
if
it
is
the
100
foot
offset
that
wouldn't
allow
the
dog
park
to
kind
of
go
up
the
hillside
under
the
trees,
because
that
would
give
a
little
bit
more
space
or
you
know
where
what's
paved
now,
for
kids
to
ride
bikes
or
play
or
whatever,
and
that's
it's
kind
of
a
more
dog
friendly
area
anyway
than
the
the
Gravel
Pit
design
that
is
in
the
South
End.
V
My
dog
does
not
like
dog
barks
I
will
still
be
walking
her
on
leash,
mostly
through,
and
you
know
off
to
other
places,
but
I
think
that
it
is
very
important
that
there
is
a
place
that
dogs
can
play
with
each
other
people
who
don't
have
dogs.
I.
Think
I'd
like
to
reassure
that
dog
owners
are
pretty
Vigilant
about
policing
each
other
a
lot
of
times
and
I.
V
Gotta
say
that
one
time
that
my
dog
was
bitten
by
another
dog,
the
people
were
horrified
and
you
know
I
had
that
venmo
for
the
vet
bill
right
away,
all
dogs
should
be
licensed
in
Boston,
regardless
and
I
would
imagine
that
will
be.
One
of
the
signs
posted
is
that
the
dogs
need
to
be
licensed.
V
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
thing.
A
lot
of
barking
is
it's
kind
of
rude.
The
same
way
yelling
in
someone's
face
is
rude.
So
it's
not
nice
dog
behavior
to
have
like
a
lot
of
constant
barking,
so
I
mean
I,
am
a
couple
houses
away
and
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
noise
from
that,
in
fact,
you
know
I
find
children
to
be
just
as
noisy,
although
probably
at
more
limited
times
of
the
day
anyway.
V
I
just
want
to
voice
my
support
and
that
I
would
rather
have
the
dog
area
be
under
the
trees,
but
I
understand
if
it
can't
be
because
of
the
offsets
it's
kind
of
hard
to
tell
with
the
streets.
J
J
L
All
right
can
I
add
on
here.
I
really
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
Everyone,
I
love
hearing
everyone's,
where
everyone's
coming
from
and
I
totally
agree
that
that
there
is
a
need
for
this
kind
of
dog
park.
I,
don't
know
how
this
works.
With
the
different
Parks
being
organized
I
know,
Franklin
Park
has
been
going
through
a
whole
process.
L
I
know
that
for
our
family
and
for
many
families
this
has
been
a
go-to
place
that
has
felt
safer
for
kids
to
learn
how
to
bike.
That's
you
know
when
you
have
little
kids,
it's
easier
to
go
on
across
a
flat
area,
with
kids
on
bikes
and
scooters
to
an
area
where
they
can
learn
to
bike,
then
up
and
down
the
hill
and
I
get
it
that
it
might
be
farther
for
other
people.
We
love
going
to
Franklin
Park
as
well
and
I
know.
L
There
were
a
lot
of
kids
at
the
first
meeting
and
a
lot
of
families
found
that
it
wasn't.
They
couldn't
come
with
it
being
the
beginning
of
the
school
year
and
dinner
time,
but
I
know
that
a
lot
of
kids
were
really
excited
about
the
tree
house
and
it
sounds
like
maybe
that
wouldn't
be
able
to
happen.
I
just
wanted
to
hear
about
that.
If
this
happens,
and
also
keeping
at
least
some
amount
of
space
open
is
what
we
would
request.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
We
would
still
be
incorporating
play
equipment
and
a
treehouse
element.
It's
just
a
matter
of
the
wide
flat
open
space
being
used
differently.
A
A
We
have
68
participants,
which
is
great
and
I,
really
appreciate
the
Candor
that
everyone
is
bringing
you
guys
are
sharing
opinions,
they're,
not
always
easy
ones.
You
guys
are
being
supportive
and
I
really
really
want
to.
Thank
you
for
that.
A
So
it
makes
my
job
as
a
project
manager
a
little
bit
more
easy,
but
yeah
so
I
think
there's
still
a
couple
of
hands
up.
There
are
still
there's
still
questions.
People
have
so
I'm
gonna
step
back
again.
W
Hi
this
is
Zach
we're
kind
of
rotating
through
the
meeting
here
because
you
know
I
honest.
There
probably
is
no
good
time
for
a
public
meeting
for
parent
working
parents
with
the
upgrades
I
was
thinking
like
when.
Would
it
be
a
good
time
for
a
meeting
I'm
like
11
p.m?
So
so
I,
you
know,
I
think
one
thing
that
I
I
really
like
what
Helen
said
about
flexible
space,
the
need
for
like
a
flat,
flexible
space.
You
know,
there's
not
a
parking
lot.
W
You
know
it's
increasingly
likely
that
parking
lots
are
not
going
to
be
as
prevalent.
You
know
in
the
future,
you
know
parking
lots
are
getting
developed
on
and
turned
into
other
things.
W
So
in
this
it's
only
safe
when
they're
empty,
which
is
not
super,
often
but
I
guess
you
know
we
have
a
one-year-old
and
a
three-year-old
and
our
three-year-old
his
favorite
place
to
ride
his
Balance
Bike
used
to
be
Franklin
Park
until
we
got
had
a
really
really
horrifying,
close
call
with
some
dirt
bikes
that
you
know
just
missed
us
and
he
was
you
know
he
hit
the
deck
and
he
was
crying
and
it
was
really
traumatic
for
him
and
he
doesn't
want
to
ride
up
there
anymore,
which
is
awful
because
we
walked
through
Franklin
Park
from
getting
from
school
in
Egleston
Square
every
day
or
most
of
the
time
and
just
in
general,
a
safe
place
to
do
kind
of
any
kind
of
roller
activity
is
so
important
because
we've
lived
in
Adelson
area
for
like
eight
years,
and
you
know
maybe
our
perspectives
change,
because
we
have
young
kids
now,
but
the
driving,
the
aggressive
driving
and
the
road
rage,
and
particularly
right
in
Eggleston
Square.
W
You
know
I
know
this
is
a
little
bit
further
away
the
park.
But
it's
you
know
it's
two
blocks
from
us
and
it's
just
gotten.
So
much
worse
in
the
past
couple
years
and
our
kids
are
so
good
about
walking
and
stopping
at
each
intersection.
They
do
such
a
good
job
of
navigating
this
neighborhood
safely,
but
they
just
need
a
place.
You
know
that's
like
it's
one
flexible
place
that
and
I
know,
there's
playgrounds,
but
there's
something
that's
really
helpful
about
it.
W
Just
an
open
flat
space,
so
anyways
yeah
I,
think
it
would
be
great
if
you
could
pass
along
to
your
be
if
you
could
pass
along
the
need
for
a
dog
park
to
your
colleagues
who
are
working
on
the
Franklin,
Park
upgrades
and
redesigns,
because
I
know
that's
underway
as
well,
and
this
is
that
would
be
a
huge
missed
opportunity
not
to
include
something
for
dogs
to
be
off
leash.
Officially
in
Franklin
Park
yeah
I
hate
to
pit
it
against
it.
W
I
just
having
a
safe
place
to
ride
is
like
really
top
of
mind.
Since
we
had
that
incident,
and
you
know
even
before
that,
I
wasn't
really
even
I
was
never
really
someone
who
was
upset
about
dirt
bikes
or
the
loud
music
parties
or
things
that
happen
in
Franklin
Park.
It
never
really
bothered
me
until
we
had
that
incident.
You
know,
so
that's
it
from
me.
I
believe.
Oh
last
thing
is
one
last
plug
I
think
it's
probably
not
likely
at
this
point,
but
one
last
plug
for
public
restrooms.
W
We
don't
have
enough
public
restrooms
in
the
neighborhood
or
in
Boston
and
I
know.
It
was
mentioned
at
a
previous
public
meeting
and
it's
probably
way
over
budget
and
not
something
that's
doable
here,
but
but
just
keep
keep
plugging
away
at
that
need.
C
X
Hi
good
evening,
thank
you
for
taking
my
comment,
slash
question.
I.
Think
we've
heard
all
sides
of
all
arguments
tonight
for
why
it
could
be
a
shared
space
for
children
and
dogs
and
even
adults,
I
suppose
or
not,
but
I'm
wondering
with
you
know,
I'm.
Just
it's
a
very
small
Park
I
mean
I,
just
don't
know
if
we've
ever
or
if
parks
department
has
ever
seen
a
park.
This
size
having
such
similar
shared
use.
X
I'm
assuming
JP
is
now
the
only
neighborhood
in
Boston
that
has
plans
to
have
the
parks
being
used
by
children
and
dogs.
X
Have
you
seen
this
happened
somewhere
else
and
how
did
it
work
out
like
do
you
have
any
data
to
provide
on
this
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
reiterate
my
point
from
earlier
that
on
this
side
of
the
tracks
in
Eggleston,
Square,
Brookside,
historically,
a
black
latinx
neighborhood,
our
playgrounds
up
here
are
not
great
and
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
and
it
just
feels
like
this
is
a
neighborhood
pocket
park
and
a
great
opportunity
to
provide
better
space
for
children,
particularly
because
we
have
so
many
public
schools
around
here.
X
That
now
uses
this
park
for
recess.
So
I
just
really
want
us
to,
for
this
particular
location,
prioritize
the
needs
of
the
children
I
understand
the
need
for
a
dog
park
in
JP
is
a
a
neighborhood
that
has
a
lot
of
dogs
and
I.
Hear
this,
but
I
I
really
do
believe
that
Franklin
Park
plans
and
just
the
amount
of
open
space
and
nature
available
there
may
be
better.
X
In
my
opinion
for
park
for
dogs,
yeah
I,
just
I
I
just
want
to
really
know
if
there's
anything
similar
somewhere
else
in
Boston
that
you've
seen
worked
actually
worked,
and
if
there
was
any
increase
of
reports
of
accidents,
I
mean
I,
see
a
lot
of
people
say.
Dogs
are
great
for
children.
Vice
versa,
I
don't
know
that
all
dogs
are
properly
trained
or
service
dogs
anyways.
So
just
these
are
my
my
thoughts
on
Long
on
the
issue.
Thank
you.
A
There
are
a
number
of
other
parks
where
there
are
spaces
for
people
as
well
as
dogs.
There's
Downer
is
an
example
where
the
dog
area
is
quite
small,
smaller
than
we
like,
and
that
part
of
it
gets
sort
of
overrun.
But
you
know
it's
a
all
of
this
is
a
work
in
progress
and
we're
always
trying
to
improve
on
the
last
thing
that
we've
done,
you
know
that's
where
we're
getting
our
our
numbers
about.
You
know
the
100
foot
offset
is
to
reduce
smells
from.
A
C
A
Or
use
of
the
ground
plane
you
know
all
of
these
things
are
based
on
our
experience
and
we
don't
have
a
ton
of
experience,
so
we
are
always
trying
to
refine
and
improve.
So
you
know,
downers
is
a
decent
example.
I
know
that
you
know:
there's
a
South
End
there's
a
park
where
there's
some
play
equipment
as
well
as
the
dog
space,
so
they
they
do
coexist
and
I.
Think
you
know
if
you
have
an
effective
fence
that
is
not
directly
abutting
a
children's
playground.
A
You
know
play
Space
like
we're
not
going
to
put
the
play
equipment
directly
adjacent
to
the
dog
area,
so
you
don't
want
little
kids
sticking
their
fingers
through
the
fence.
You
know
we're
gonna,
try
our
our
best
to
to
separate
these
things,
while
also
acknowledging
that
this
is
small
Park
and
that
interactions
are
going
to
occur.
People
walking
to
the
dog
park
with
their
dog
on
a
leash
may
cross
paths
with
kids
who
may
be
concerned
about
dogs.
A
It's
my
hope
that
you
know
that
that's
a
beneficial
interaction
but
anyway
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
X
Thank
you
that
does
I
just
also
just
wanted
to
add
that
there
has
a
lot
of.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
change
happening
on
Egleston
square
with
the
new
bus
lane.
Increased
traffic
Augustine
Square
neighborhood
association
has
worked
very
closely
with
BTD
and
William
moose
who's,
one
of
the
people
we
worked
with
when
they
were
implemented.
X
The
bus
lane
so
I
I'm
just
here
to
say
that
hurricane
has
been
an
issue
and
I
find
it
personally
very
hard
to
believe
that
if
we
have
a
dog
park,
the
only
dark
part
in
the
whole
neighborhood
of
JP,
which
I
hear
we
have
a
lot
of
dogs
in
JP
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
that
parking
and
just
even
like
this
park,
I
think
will
definitely
be
overwhelmed.
X
So
this
is
just
my
opinion,
but
I
do
think
we
dogs
need
to
have
more
open
space
or
dedicated
parks
with
parking
but
I
again,
I
just
I'm,
not
convinced
this
location
is
the
right
size
and
appropriate
for
it.
However,
like
I'm
I
think
I'll
just
look
so
for
some
more
information
about
the
other
Parks
you
you
mentioned,
and
maybe
it
could
work.
I
don't
know
so
thank
you.
Anyways.
A
All
right,
we
have
it's
7
26
right
now
and
there
are
I
think
four
people
with
hands
raised,
so
we're
going
to
have
these
last
people,
no
one
else
at
this
point.
So
again,
this
has
been
great.
If
you
guys
could
keep
your
comments
short
so
that
we
can
try
and
fit
everyone
in
before
the
end
of
the
meeting.
C
Y
Hi
thanks
I'll
be
super
quick
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
a
few
points.
One
is
that
we're
frankly
desperate
for
an
option.
People
on
this
call
have
been
working
on
this
issue
for
literally
decades,
and
we've
already
said
that,
like
the
city
and
the
DCR
have
not
been
cooperating
with
finding
options
for
on
leash
off
leash
dog
parks
and
so
like
for
everybody
saying
like,
can
we
do
it?
In
another
location,
we've
been
trying
and
frankly,
we've
been
trying
for
decades
and
we've
been
trying
for
every
possible
option.
Y
Y
If
we
don't
get
this
dog
park,
they're
frankly
like
extended
and
continue
because
dogs
don't
have
a
safe
place
to
go,
there
are
dogs
in
JP,
and
so
all
of
the
concerns
actually,
in
my
opinion,
are
supporting
evidence
for
including
a
dog
park,
because
people
will
find
places
to
walk
their
dogs
off
leash
if
there
is
not
an
offense
in
dog
park.
So
I
think
all
of
the
concerns
are
are
valid
but
are
actually
in
support
of
including
this.
Y
I
would
also
say
that,
like
there
are
people
in
this
call
and
not
in
this
call,
who
have
who
have
the
data,
have
the
research
have
been
in
dozens
of
conversations
with
the
city
and
so
I.
Don't
want
to
say
that
not
all
opinions
are
created
equal,
but
I
would
say
that
there
are
certain
points
of
feedback
that
maybe
have
more
experience
or
are
more
research
than
others,
and
that
I
think
the
city
would
benefit
from
figuring
out
who
are
the
folks
who
are
really
looking
into
the
benefits
and
the
research
behind
this?
Y
Those
people
exist
and
they've
been
working
on
this
for
decades,
so
yeah,
I,
I
guess.
Lastly,
like
this
wouldn't
be
the
first
dog
park
to
ever
exist
like
they
are
all
over
the
country
and
they
work
and
so
I,
don't
think
the
question
is
like:
should
dog
parks
be
a
thing
in
the
country?
Y
I
think
it's
like?
Is
there
a
need
in
Jamaica
Plain?
Yes,
there
is
it's
the
most
it's
the
highest
population
of
dogs
in
the
city
and
we
have
literally
zero
dog
parks.
The
rest
of
the
use
is
proposed
for
this
particular
space.
All
have
Alternatives
dog
parks
have
zero
Alternatives.
The
concerns
that
have
been
voiced
are
not
going
away
if
this
space
isn't
included
with
a
dog
park
they're
just
getting
exacerbated
so
I.
Think
literally
everything
I've
heard
like
supports
to
Absolute
desperation
for
this
to
be
included.
Thank
you.
A
C
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Jessica
and
I
live
on
Brookside,
just
about
a
block
down
from
the
Flaherty
Park
and
I
just
want
to
make
an
observation
that
I've
seen
a
lot
of
calls
from
people
here
to
take
dogs
to
other
parks.
In
the
face
of
this
proposal
to
add
a
dog
park
at
Flaherty,
but
I,
don't
see
anyone
asking
for
parents
to
take
their
kids
elsewhere,
right
and
I.
U
That's
safe
and
dedicated
a
sort
of
safe
and
dedicated
space
for
for
dogs
to
exist
off
leash,
rather
than
what's
happening
today,
which
is
a
lot
of
off-leash
use
in
what
is
supposed
to
be
kid-friendly
areas.
So
I
believe
that
Flaherty
Park
is
actually
the
best
space
for
an
initial
dog
park
in
JP
and
I
really
encourage
the
city
to
consider
its
use.
For
that
purpose.
E
I
think
I
already
spoke.
I
just
want
to
briefly
say
one
other
point
is
that
my
my
it's
a
question
and
concern
as
to
the
length
of
the
process
here,
I'm
worried
that
this
process,
now
that
it's
more
connected
with
the
dog
park,
is
going
to
be
run
really
long
and
potentially
not
come
to
fruition,
because
this
B
can
you
comment
on
what
the
design
plan
moving
forward
from
this
point
will
be
to
actually
build
and
complete
this
project.
Thank
you.
A
That's
the
goal,
and
so
this
you
know
I
would
say
that
it's
probably
impacted
the
schedule
by
a
few
months
just
to
have
these
internal
conversations
and
sort
of
further
analysis.
Adding
another
meeting
you
know
ads
adds
time
for
sure,
but
this
does
not
mean
that
this
project
is
not
going
to
happen.
We
have
secured
funding,
we
have
lots
of
interested
parties,
so
so
don't
worry
about
that.
I
appreciate
your
concern,
though,.
O
Yeah
I
live
in
subside
housing
with
caddy
corner
from
Flaherty
Park,
and
this
past
summer.
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
all
had
to
dig
into
our
Reserve
funds
and
do
our
personal
Pockets
to
buy
a
new
dumpster,
because
there
was
a
giant
petrified
poop
Pile
in
our
trash
area,
because
people
walking
through
this
area
were
just
throwing
their
poop
into
our
house.
O
That
costs
a
lot
of
money
for
a
lot
of
people
who
live
in
subsize,
housing
and
I'm
really
concerned
that
having
a
park
there
is
going
to
make
that
problem
a
whole
lot
worse
and
that
for
people
who
really
are
already
struggling
to
make
ends
also
I
want
to
add
that
there
are
a
whole
lot
of
comments
in
the
chat
of
people
telling
people
with
kids
to
get
lost
and
go
somewhere
else.
So
please
do
not
use
that
emotional
arguments
in
this
situation.
Thank
you
very
much
and
good
night.
A
A
We're
going
to
be
reviewing
the
recording
as
well,
and
please
share
the
survey
with
everybody
that
you
know
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
people
to
provide
their
data.
If
you
guys
want
to
do
the
survey
as
well,
it's
been
very
helpful
hearing
the
the
nuance
and
opinions
tonight.
I
think
this
has
given
us
some
good
direction
for
the
design,
no
matter
what
is
included,
but
anyway,
we
will
be
in
touch.
Thank
you
all
for
participating
and
I
hope.
You
have
a
wonderful
night.