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From YouTube: Coppens Square Community Briefing
Description
8/16/2020
Online community engagement meeting to discuss the proposed conceptual design for improvements at Coppens Square.
A
Oh
hello
and
welcome
my
name
is
nathan
frazee
and
I'm
the
project
manager
from
the
boston
parks
and
recreation
department
overseeing
improvements
to
coppin
square.
I
first
want
to
welcome
you
tonight
to
our
briefing
on
the
project
before
we
jump
into
the
discussion.
We
want
to
flag
that
the
meeting
is
available
in
five
different
languages
may
only
be
four
right
now,
but
we're
working
on
it,
but
the
languages
are
spanish,
portuguese,
haitian
creole
vietnamese
and
cape
verdean
and
the
call-in
information
will
be
on
the
screen.
A
And
megan
translation
the
next
slide,
please.
A
So
I'm
going
to
call
out
the
language
in
each
interpreter.
If
you
can
on
have
christine
if
you
can
unmute
them
so
that
they
can
read
the
number
in
the
pin.
So
terence,
is
our
spanish
interpreter
and
can
share
the
call-in
information
for
spanish.
A
A
I
believe
our
cape
verdean
translator
is
creole
is
having
some
technical
difficulties.
If
we're
able
to
get
her
connected,
we
will
share
the
information,
but
it
will
is
on
the
screen.
So
if
you
do
need
that,
please
feel
free
to
record
it
now
and
and
we'll
we'll,
let
you
know
when
that
is
available.
A
So
if
you
are
taking
advantage
of
any
of
these
translators,
the
best
approach
is
to
mute
the
computer
and
use
the
call-in,
and
they
will
be
translating
the
presentation
as
we
go.
F
Nathan,
thank
you.
I'm
I'm
more
interested
in
looking
at
the
presentation.
Just
thank
everybody
for
their
work,
ed's
on
here
jeff's
here.
This
is
exciting
that
we
have
gotten
while
ed
and
his
group
have
gotten
it
this
far.
Just
I
think
it's
exciting
for
the
neighborhood
and
look
forward
to
talking
about
the
design
and
also
the
money
and
the
time
frame.
Thank
you.
A
Great
thanks,
thank
you,
councillor
baker.
So,
at
this
point
this
briefing
will
be
a
little
bit
different
than
our
typical
community
meetings.
Obviously
it
will
be
an
online
presentation
in
discussion.
That's
put
on
from
the
parks
department,
with
our
park,
design,
team
and
the
friends
of
coppin
square.
I
appreciate
you
trying
this
new
format
of
our
community
meeting
with
us.
We
certainly
miss
seeing
everyone's
face
and
our
in-person
interactions
for
this
zoom
webinar
style.
There's
two
ways
to
interact
you
and
the
community
that
are
viewing.
A
The
video
can
see
a
diagram
on
your
screen
now
it
shows
where
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
if
you
click
raise
hand
icon,
it
will
alert
one
of
the
design
members
that
you
have
a
question
and
you
during
the
question
and
answer
portion
of
the
presentation,
will
be
called
on
in
the
order
that
those
hands
are
raised,
the
other
other.
A
The
other
approach
is
clicking
the
q,
a
which
is-
you
can
see
also
at
the
bottom,
that
will
pop
up
a
on
diag
pop-up
for
you
in
that
you
can
enter
questions
which
will
be
directed
to
the
panelists,
and
we
can
continue
to
answer
those
as
they
come
in
and
and
kind
of
prioritize
how
those
are
coming
in.
A
If
you
are
on
through
the
phone
you
can
join
if
you
dial
star
nine,
that
will
raise
your
hand
and
it
will
chris
alert
christine
and
again
at
the
portion
of
the
question
and
answer
she
can
call
on
you
and
that
will
on
mute,
your
phone,
which
is
done
by
star
six
and
that
mutes
and
unmutes
yourself
once
she
calls
on
you
so
again,
this
is
a
new
kind
of
format,
so
please
bear
with
us
and
we'll
get
through
this
and
and
we'll
learn
as
we
go.
A
So
at
this
point,
we'll
click
to
the
next
slide.
A
So
the
agenda
tonight
is
well.
I
will
do
the
project
team
introduction.
So
then,
we'll
move
on
to
a
project
overview
we'll
go
to
a
goals
and
objectives
from
the
parks
department,
the
design
team,
clara
batchelor,
we'll
do
a
presentation,
and
then
we
will
have
a
discussion
and
a
poll
about
the
design
and
then
we'll
have
some
closing
remarks
and
next
steps
on
that
next
slide.
A
So
again,
my
name
is
nathan
frazee,
I'm
the
project
manager,
I've
included
my
email
and
phone
phone
number
there
christine
brandeo
is
our
outreach
coordinator
in
external
affairs.
Her
contact
is
also
there.
Ed
cook
is
the
president
of
the
friends
of
coppin
square,
so
clara
batchelor
is
a
landscape
architect
and
our
on
our
design
team
from
cba
landscape.
A
Architects
with
her
is
megan
tompkins,
also
a
landscape
architect,
and
I
have
included
chantal
barbosa,
who
is
the
office
of
neighborhood
services,
so
tonight
we'll
be
talking
about
specifically
coppin
square,
but
if
there
are
other
things
in
the
neighborhood
that
you
are
have
concerns
or
want
to
reach
out
on.
Chantal
will
be
your
contact
for
that
next
slide.
So
again,
this
is
coppin
square
at
located
between
bowdoin
street
and
adams
street
in
dorchester,
and
it
has
three
primary
entrances
which
are
all
by
crosswalk.
A
H
Okay,
not
anymore,
so
I
was
welcoming
everyone
tonight,
you're
all
friends
of
coppin
square.
Tonight
I
want
to
give
kudos
to
the
parks
and
rec
department,
particularly
for
this
zoom
call.
This
summit
webinar,
I
mean
for
the
translations
of
the
flyer
that
we
sent
out
to
all
of
the
neighborhood
organizations
and
many
individuals
and
elected
representatives,
and
also
for
the
simultaneous
translations
that
were
announced
earlier.
H
I
want
to
particularly
thank
nathan,
frazee
and
christine
brandau,
who
have
been
you
know,
they're
listed
on
the
team,
but
they
have
been
doing
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
nathan.
His
second
occupation
is
a
french
pirate,
as
you
can
see.
H
H
So
having
all
this
done
by
the
parks
and
rec
department,
I'm
just
so
grateful,
and
I
I
want
to
give
those
folks
kudos-
and
I
also
want
to
recognize
megan
thompson,
thompkins
and
clara
batchelor
from
cba
the
landscape,
architects,
who
have
been
doing
a
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
in
preparation
for
this,
and
we
have
a
couple
of
purposes
for
our
meeting
tonight.
The
main
purpose
obviously
is
to
up
to
update
everyone
on
the
final
design
plan.
H
Final,
isn't
the
right
word,
but
the
the
design
plan
that
has
been
done
by
in
cooperation
between
parks
and
rec
and
cba
and
came
about
with
the
grant
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
community
preservation
act
that
funded
this
plan.
H
So
we're
celebrating
that
and
the
as
as
nathan
mentioned
at
the
end,
there
will
be
a
poll
and
the
board
of
the
friends
of
carbon
square,
who
I
will
introduce
in
a
minute
has
right
is
recommending
this
plan
that
will
be
described
tonight
and
we
will
ask
you
to
vote
so
stay
till
the
end,
because
we
want
to
take
a
vote.
H
Let's
see
a
long
time
at
the
original
meeting.
As
you
see
on
this
first
slide,
you
see
the
fountain.
H
Back.
Several
years
ago
we
had
the
initial
meeting
standing
literally
standing
around
that
fountain
and
frank
baker
was
there
and
the
then
commissioner
of
parks
and
recreation.
Chris
cook
was
there
and
chris
during
the
conversation,
recommended
that
it
would
help
with
the
renovation
to
have
a
neighborhood
residence
organization
and
that
suggestion
turned
out
to
be
friends
of
coppin
square
and.
H
So
if
you
would
switch
to
the
timeline
megan,
please
so,
as
you
see
back
in
2006,
standing
right
after
that
meeting
around
the
fountain,
the
friends
of
carbon
square
was
established
in
2016,
the
friends
of
carbon
square
were
incorporated
as
a
501
c3
and.
H
To
do
several
meetings
and
present
initial
plans
for
a
redesign
and
renovation
for
coppin
square,
and
they
were,
they
were
act
working
on
a
pretty
small
budget
and
they
did
a
tremendous
amount
of
work,
including
the
time
they
spent
preparing
for
those
meetings
and
then
attending
the
meetings.
H
Me
once
this
meeting
is
concluded,
we
will-
and
some
paperwork
is
done
afterwards-
that
nathan
has
mentioned,
but
I
have
no
idea
what
it
really
is
about
once
that
process
is
done,
the
program
will
be
what's
called
shovel
ready,
and
that
means
that
we
will
be
able
to
be
considered,
be
put
into
the
city
budget
and
apply
for
other
funding
sources.
H
So
in
2019
last
year
the
friends
of
carbon
square
was
applied
for
and
was
awarded
that
hundred
thousand
dollar
grant,
and
that
brings
us
up
to
this
meeting
in
the
summer
meeting
of
2020
and
the
construction
documents
that
you'll
see
more
about.
H
Then
we
expect
that
in
the
fall
we
will
have
finished
the
construction
documents
and
cost
estimates
there'll
be
a
little
bit
of
talk
about
cost
later
on
and
then
we're
hoping
that
in
the
spring,
the
capital
fund
and
other
funding
sources
will
provide
the
money
to
begin
the
project
in
the
ground.
So
to
speak.
H
When
we
applied
for
a
501
c
3
status,
we
were
required
to
have
a
minimum
of
three
board
members,
and
so
I'm
the
president,
jeff
jeff
durray,
is
the
treasurer
jennifer
johnson
is
the
secretary
and
linda
laska
is
a
board
member
and
I
think
I
left
out
karen
charles
peterson
somewhere
along
the
line.
Sorry
about
that.
So
I'm
I
have
the
title
of
president.
H
H
All
right,
let's
see
so
with
that,
I
will
hand
off
the
presentation
to
nathan
who
will
discuss
the
next
part
of
the
agenda.
A
Thank
you
ed,
so
so
the
city
of
boston's
design,
approach
for
park
design
is
spearheaded
from
four
different
approaches.
One
is
city
of
boston
initiatives,
parks
and
recreation
goals,
safety
guidelines
and
environmental
regulations,
and
then,
from
this
type
of
community
input
and
engagement,.
A
H
May
I
interrupt
for
a
sec
that
joao
has
asked
a
couple
of
questions
on
the
q.
A
page
one
is
a
question
about
the
naming
of
the
project,
so
there
are
two
names
involved
here.
The
entire
park
is
named
coppin's
square,
named
after
a
catholic
priest
from
the
neighborhood
from
saint
peter's
parish,
who
was
killed
in
korea
as
a
chaplain,
and
the
other
name
is
lyman.
H
The
fountain
was
put
up
much
later
than
that,
but
it
was
in
his
memory
and
joel
mentions
that
alludes
to
the
fact
that
mayor
lyman
was
a
very
vocal
anti-abolitionist.
H
He
was
a
member
of
the
democratic
party
which,
at
that
time,
was
centered
very
much
in
the
south
and
was
anti-abolition
of
slavery.
We
have
no
intention
of
continuing
the
use
of
that
name
for
the
fountain.
It
is
a
historic
fact,
but-
and
a
question
was
also
asked
about
how
many
people
actually
knew
the
meeting
was
happening.
H
So
I'd
like
to
address
that
and
that
question
I
would
say
in
answer
to
that,
I
would
say
I
personally
sent
out
flyers
in
all
of
the
languages
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
to
every
local
organization
asking
them
to
send
them
on
to
their
mailing
lists.
I
sent
notices
to
elected
officials
asking
them
to
do
the
same.
H
I
you
know
I
can't
record
who
did
what,
but
I
know
that
christine
brandau
from
parks
and
rec
also
sent
out
a
tremendous
amount
of
no
tremendous
number
of
notices.
So
I
just
wanted
to
answer
those
questions.
I'll
go
back
on
mute.
A
Sure,
and
and
just
to
follow
up
on
that
there
was
a
question
as
well
as
on
the
number
of
attendees
right
now
we
have
17
attendees
with,
I
believe
five
are
in
include
interpreters
and
our
ons
rep.
So
with
that
being
said,
let's
have
cba
go
into
the
project.
I
think
christine
may
want
to.
I
Pop
in
with
can
we.
G
Just
keep
our
questions.
If
I
know
some
people
have
raised
their
hands,
can
we
just
keep
that
for
the
end
for
the
q
a
part?
So,
let's
just
get
through
the
presentation
and
if
you
put
anything
in
the
q
a
we'll,
try
to
answer
it
as
we
go.
So
thank
you.
A
Great
so
with
that
being
said,
I
turn
it
over
to
clara
and
megan.
J
K
Our
party,
everyone,
I'm
I'm
clara,
and
I
are
both
principals
here
at
cba,
I'm
just
going
to
start
by
introducing
or
reintroducing
you
all
to
the
site
and
the
project
we
usually
like
to
sort
of
give
everybody
a
little
visual
refresher
on
what
the
site
is
and,
as
you
can
see
on
this
first
slide.
K
This
is
a
picture
of
both
the
fountain
and
that
dedication
block.
So
I
you
know,
I
I
agree
with
what
ed
is
saying
about
shifting
the
focus
away
from
mayor
lyman
for
sure,
so
one
of
the
things
that
is
sort
of
key
about
this
oops.
Let's
do
a
move
down
and
I'll
I'll
speak
to
this.
A
little
more
when
we
show
some
plans,
but
currently
the
fountain
in
this
site
is
not
the
original
fountain.
The
original
fountain
was
much
larger.
K
This
fountain,
we
believe,
was
replaced,
replaced
the
original
one
in
the
1950s
and
has
not
been
functional
since
the
1970s
and
I'm
sure,
as
you
can
see
from
this
photo,
it's
it's
quite
small
for
the
the
found
surround
and
for
the
space
it's
in
another
key
part
of
this
site
is
the
little
plaza
at
the
you
know
at
the
skinny
end
of
the
triangle,
since
this
is
sort
of
a
triangular
site,
the
little
plaza,
I
think
was,
I
think,
dates
to
the
1990s.
K
K
It's
been,
you
know
it's,
it's
been
there
a
long
time
and
just
to
sort
of
get
some
views
of
this
park
from
other
angles
on
the
left
is
sort
of
from
the
bus
stop
area
of
you
across
the
lawn
towards
the
towards
the
fountain
and
on
the
right
is
another
area
of
that's
another
view
of
the
long
one
thing
we've
been
talking
about
in
this
redesign.
Is
you
know,
perimeter,
sidewalks
and
accessibility?
K
Currently,
there
are
sidewalks
around
most
of
the
most
of
the
site,
and
we
would
be
we
would
be
connecting
those.
So
it's
more
of
a
loop
and
you
can
access
the
whole
thing.
Pedestrians
can
access
the
whole
thing-
and
I
know
I
mentioned
earlier-
that
the
fountain
being
found
at
the
site
right
now
is
undersized.
These
are
images
of
the
original
fountain.
K
As
you
can
see,
much
larger
the
postcard
in
the
right
has
the
church
in
the
background,
and
you
can
see
the
granite
surround
is
a
much
is
much
more
in
proportion
to
the
that
size
of
the
fountain,
and
there
are
a
lot
more
shade
trees.
K
All
right
and
yes,
and
as
I
keep
moving
here,
this
is
a
very
wordy
slide.
So
please
forgive
me.
K
This
is
just
a
quick
summary
of
the
four
meetings
that
we
held
in
2016
2017
in
the
original
design
process,
with
the
friends
of
coffin
square
board.
K
As
you
can
see,
the
first
meeting
was
just
an
initial
meeting.
You
know
in
which
cba
presented
sort
of
a
site
analysis,
probably
a
bigger
version
of
what
I'm
presenting.
Now.
We
always
like
to
show
precedent,
images
and
sort
of
discuss
with
the
group
preliminary
design
ideas.
The
second
meeting
was
public
meeting
and
I
think
it
was
quite
well
attended
and
at
that
time
we
had
sort
of
a
larger
discussion
about
whether
a
traditional
fountain
was
the
right
main
site
feature
for
this
park.
K
We
looked
at
different
things
like
you
know,
traditional
fountain
versus
a
you
know,
modern
fountain,
whether
we
wanted
sculpture
and
whether
that
would
that
should
be
traditional
or
or
more
modern
or
abstract
and
overwhelmingly,
and
there
were
there-
was
sort
of
sticker
voting.
I
think
and
overwhelmingly
the
sort
of
traditional
fountain
was
what
was
chosen
at
this
meeting.
K
The
third
meeting
in
20,
the
third
meeting
in
the
2017
process,
explored
locations
for
that
main
fountain.
You
know
the
fountain
feature
main
feature.
K
We
just
looked
at
whether
where
it
is
on
site,
is
the
right
place
for
it
if
we
should
look
at
somewhere
else
either
at
the
you
know,
skinny
end
of
the
point
where
the
plaza
currently
is
whether
it
wanted
to
shift
to
another
area
and
at
that
time
keeping
the
fountain
in
you
know
close
to
the
same
area
as
where
it
is
was,
was
also
sort
of
overwhelmingly
preferred,
which
brings
us
to
the
final
meeting
back
in
2017
meeting,
four,
which
I
it
doesn't
say
public,
but
I
believe
it
was
a
public
meeting
and
I
believe
it
was
also
well
attended.
K
Yes,
yes,
thank
you,
clara
yeah,
and
at
that
time
cba
presented
sort
of
our
you
know.
Perf
cba
presented
the
preferred
design
that
we
had
developed
through
this
process,
so
it
showed
the
fountain
the
surround
sort
of
a
plaza
around
it.
You
know
the
location
other
site
elements
that
we
would
incorporate
like
planting
and
lighting,
and
things
like
that,
and
obviously
a
schematic
cost
estimate
estimate
that
has
been
helping
us
move
forward
with
this
process.
K
All
right-
and
here
is
our
preferred
design
plan
from
2017..
As
you
can
see,
the
fountain
is
in
the
middle,
very
close
to
where
it
was
originally
we're,
showing
an
expanded
plaza
around
it
with
some
seating,
some
integrated
lighting.
There
would
also
be
some
light
poles.
You
know
traditional
style
around
the
park,
since
there
is
a
bit
of
a
hill
in
this
in
this
site
it
sort
of
slopes
down.
K
One
way
we
would
be
making
up
that
up
with
some
sort
of
monumental
steps,
which
could
also
be
really
nice
for
congregating.
You
know
for
for
general
use
in
the
park.
We'd
also
be
keeping
just
to
know,
we'd
be
keeping
the
bus
shelter
where
it
is
and
we'll
be,
adding
a
bunch
more
shade,
trees,
all
right
clara.
Do
you
wanna,
oh
and
you're?
Muted,
oh
good,
could
you.
H
K
H
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
People
were
interested
in
having
lighting
around
the
fountain
on
the
floor
of
the
yeah,
so
I
just
wanted
to
show
that
that's
still
included
in
the
design.
That's
it.
J
Those
are
submerged
lights
that
would
come
up
through
the
water
and,
like
light,
the
fountain.
H
J
And
also
we,
we
added
quite
a
few
trees
if
you
you
saw
from
the
historic
photograph.
This
has
always
been
a
green
and
we've
lost
some
trees
over
time.
So
we
thought
this
was
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
introduce
some
the
larger
trees
drawn
here
and
represent
shape,
shade
trees,
the
smaller
ones
we
were
thinking
of
flowering
trees,
so
there
would
be
color
and
but
the
the
ground
plain
would
be
lawn
with
these
wonderful
trees
in
it.
F
J
We
haven't
decided
exactly
but
they'd
be
things
like
they
could
be
london,
plant
trees
or
maple,
trees
or
tupelo.
Anything
that
grew
to
50
60
feet
tall
that
had
a
large
canopy
that
offered
significant
shade
the
trees
that
make
a
semi-circle
around
the
fountain.
In
the
plaza
we
would
have
those
as
a
uniform
kind,
so
they
looked
like
they
form
a
circle.
They'd
be
all
the
same
variety
and
some
of
the
other
trees.
We
could
have
different
varieties
to
to
introduce.
J
You
know
diversity
plant
for
diversity
in
the
park,
and
so,
if
we
go
to
the
next
shot
slide
that
also
helps
explain
the
design
what
we
these
are
called
section.
We
draw
a
line
through
the
park
and
then,
if
you're
standing
looking
at
it
cut
through
that
line.
This
is
what
you
see
so
the
top
section
you'd
be
standing
on
adams
street,
yes,
adam
street
and
bowdoin.
I
think
it's
great
the
bowden's
on
both
sides
of
the
park
and
you
see
the
bone
street
and
the
park
would
be
in
the
middle.
J
You
can
see
the
monumental
stairs
that
would
be
really
fun
for
sitting
on.
You
see
the
benches
around
the
fountain
and
to
the
far
left
on
that
top.
You
see
a
little
urn
with
plants
in
it
and
that
would
mark
one
of
the
sidewalk
entrances
to
the
central
plaza
area
and
then
the
middle
slide
is
slicing.
It
long
way
from
the
this
mega
refer
to
it.
As
the
skinny
end.
The
point
you
see
the
bus
stop
that
will
remain
down
from
where
the
two
bone
street
meet
down
to
adam
street.
J
This
is
a
section
through
the
park
there
you
see
the
trees
that
may
again
that
make
a
semi-circle
around
the
fountain
benches
there
monumental
stairs
and
then
down
below
is
looking.
J
J
Oops
before
we
start
that
I
want
to
just
show
you:
this
is
a.
This
is
a
survey
moving
into
this
phase
of
the
design
we
we
were
able
to
obtain
a
very
detailed
survey.
We'd
been
looking,
we've
been
working
with
older
surveys,
but
this
the
new
survey
showed
a
lot
of
the
subsurface
utilities
which
are
going
to
be
very
important.
We
have
to
redo
the
water
line
into
the
park
to
in
order
to
have
a
fountain
that
actually
works.
J
And
so
now
we
can
talk
about
the
fountain
and
you
see
the
fountain
on
the
left
was
a
picture
of
the
original
fountain
and
we
talked.
We
started
talking
to
a
a
fountain
or
a
an
ironworks
company
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
they're
very
the
number
of
ironworks
companies
in
this
country
who
can
fabricate
fountains
has
decreased
greatly
over
the
years.
There's
not
a
lot
of
demand,
and
we
have
worked
with
robinson
ironworks
before
they're
out
of
alabama.
Where
boundaries
there
were
a
lot
of
foundries
in
the
south.
J
There
are
a
lot
few.
They
went
from
the
north
to
the
south
and
then
now
they've
left
the
south.
But
there's
still
some
foundries
in
the
united
states
and
they've
worked
on
boston
fountains
before
we
worked
with
them
on
the
concord
square
fountain
in
the
south
end
and
to
recreate
this
fountain
would
have
cost
exactly
as
it
was,
would
have
cost
millions
of
dollars.
J
But
one
thing
that,
because
they'd
have
to
build
all
the
the
molds
that
have
to
create
the
molds
and
then
cast
it,
but
one
thing
that
robinson
iron
did
as
a
lot
of
iron
works
were
going
out
of
business.
They
purchased
the
moles
from
these
iron
work,
companies
that
were
closing
down,
and
so
they
looked
at
the
fountain
and
they
said
well.
We
have
some
of
these
human
figures
here,
not
exactly
what
we're
there,
but
close.
We
have
similar
bowls.
We
have
a
crane,
that's
similar
to
the
to
the
animal.
J
On
top
of
the
old
fountain.
We
could
sort
of
create
a
fountain
similar,
very
similar
in
height
and
style
and
figures
and
with
the
current
molds
we
have-
and
this
would
be
instead
of
a
million
plus.
This
would
be
a
mere
700
375
000,
and
we
thought,
oh,
that
that's
great,
and
then
we
thought,
but
it's
still
an
awful
lot
of
money
and
it's
a
very
complicated
fountain
and
it
would
be
relatively
expensive
to
maintain
because
it
has
so
many
different
pieces
to
it,
and
so
we
started
thinking.
Could
we
simplify
this
fountain
still?
J
Have
it
an
appropriate
scale
and
still
have
it
monumental
enough
to
get
to
occupy
a
significant
amount
of
space
in
the
center
of
this
wonderful
green
and
to
have
a
presence?
And
so
we
simplified
it
and
using
again
the
existing
molds.
So
we
weren't
having
to
recreate
anything.
We
still
have
two
bowls.
We
still
have
a
crane
at
the
top.
We
still
have
a
pedestal
and
we
can
make
the
pedestal
a
little
taller
if
we
want
it
still
taller.
J
So
we
went
from
a
24
foot
tall
fountain
to
a
17
and
a
half,
almost
18
foot
found,
which
we
still
think
will
look
lovely
and
we
can
make
the
the
basin
slightly
smaller
by
just
shortening
the
p
that,
because
it's
hexagonal
or
it's
it's
segmented,
not
round,
we
can
make
the
pieces
smaller
just
to
decrease
the
size
of
the
bowl
slightly,
and
we
thought
we
bring
the
fountain
cost
of
this
fountain
down
significantly.
J
So
it
goes
from
375
000
to
179
000,
which
we
thought
would
be
a
lot
easier
to
working
with
the
city
working
with
the
friends
of
coppin
square
to
actually
make
this
park
with
the
fountain
a
reality.
H
For
those
who
have
been
with
our
friends
of
carbon
square
for
years,
if
you
look
at
the
middle
fountain,
which
was
proposed
by
robinson,
the
robinson
foundry
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
you
notice
there
are
figures
holding
up
the
bottom
bowl.
H
Those
figures
were
when
we
really
looked
at
them
are
sort
of
classical
european
women,
which
we
did
not
think
was,
on
the
one
hand,
reflective
of
our
neighborhood
as
it
is
now,
and
also
they
present
a
temptation
for
people
who
who
might
want
to
be
destructive.
H
So
we
simplified,
we
removed
those
in
the
final
design
with
that
purpose
and
we
still
end
up
with
a
monumental
fountain
that
is
easier
and
easier
to
maintain,
which
is
another
important
feature.
Thank
you.
J
J
J
Shows
you
sort
of
in
general
categories:
we've
done
a
much
more
detailed
budget
than
this,
but
you
can
see
breaking
it
down
into
sort
of
large
categories:
the
demolition,
the
paving
and
edging.
You
know
various
site
features
like
benches
and
trash
receptacles.
The
fountain
is
a
large
number
because,
in
addition
to
getting
the
fountain
made
and
put
in
place,
you
have
to
do
all
the
plumbing
for
it
and
the
lighting
and
the
electrical.
So
we
have
consultants
with
working
with
us
that
are
a
fountain
specialist.
J
We
can
make
sure
the
fountain
reset
recirculates
properly
and
is
up
to
all
the
codes
and
it's
plumbed
correctly.
We
have
an
electrical
engineer
to
help
us
with
lighting
the
lighting
of
the
fountain,
as
well
as
the
perimeter
lights.
We
more
decorative
bollard
lights
around
the
perimeter
of
the
park,
you
saw
irrigation,
maintenance,
etc.
So
that
brought
us
to
a
price.
J
At
the
every
time
you
advance
the
design
you
get
to
refine
the
cost
estimate,
because
you
know
more
and
more
details,
but
we
we
are
confident
that
we
are
very
close
to
what
this
fountain
would.
What
this
park,
the
renovation
of
this
park
and
the
design
that
we
showed
you
would
cost
megan
any.
Can
you
think
of
anything
else
to
add
to.
K
J
A
Well
so,
at
this
point
christine,
as
we
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
we're
are
we
doing
the
poll
now
or
after
the
discussion.
A
G
A
A
Let's
do
the
discussion
now
and
then
we'll
do
the
the
voting
afterwards.
So
at
this
point,
we're
going
to
open
it
up
and
we'll
actually
recap
the
methods
of
engagement.
So
again
the
the
two
ways
we've
had
several
questions
already
come
in
through
the
q,
a
so
those
have
been
being
answered
as
they've
been
coming
in.
A
So
there's
there's
two
ways:
if
you're
viewing
the
presentation,
if
you
click
the
raised
hand,
it'll
it'll
raise
it'll,
indicate
that
you've
raised
your
hand,
and
we
can
call
on
you
to
ask
your
question
and
you
can
click
on
the
q,
a
which
will
open
a
box
on
your
window
and
then
you
can
type
your
question
which
will
be
sent
to
the
panelists
again
if
you're
joining
us
by
phone
tonight.
Star
nine
is
how
you
raise
your
hand
and
then
christine
will
call
on
you
and
on
mute
you
from
there.
A
So
with
that
being
said,
christine
do
you
see
any
raised
hands.
A
L
I
just
wanted
to
know
what
happened
to
the
original
fountain.
Did
it
deteriorate
that
someone
that
they
remove
it,
put
it
somewhere
else,
because.
D
H
Want
clara
or
do
you
want
me,
okay
me,
so
we
found
a
record.
H
I
forget
what
the
organization
we
found
it
in,
but
what
we
found
was
that
in
the
19
late
1950s,
maybe
57
or
58,
the
top
of
the
fountain
was
reported
to
have
broken
off
that
apparently
disturbed
the
whole
flow
of
the
fountain
and
it
was
removed.
Tony.
H
We
don't
we
did
a
lot
of
searching
to
find
out
where
the
original
fountain
ended
up.
There
are
theories
that
it
was
melted
down
for
other
purposes.
H
I
have
sort
of
a
comical
theory
that
it's
sitting
in
somebody's
yard
in
naples,
florida,
but
there's
no
record
of
where
it
actually
ended
up,
but
it
was
it
stopped
being
functional
in
the
late
1950s.
H
We
know
it
was
replaced
by
that
dinky
little
fountain.
That's
there.
Now
in
the
early
60s
and
as
megan
said
at
some
point
in
the
late
60s
1970,
the
city
was
doing.
H
A
Hey
thank
you
for
that
now
I
I
saw
the
next
thing
that
popped
up
was
a
question
from
emily
that
asked
if
the
fountain
lights
would
still
be
operational
in
the
winter,
when
the
fountain
is
not
flowing
claire,
do
you
want
to
answer
that.
J
We
can,
it
would
make
sense
we'll
have
you
know
the
fountain
will
be
winterized
in
the
late
fall
so
that
the
water
lines
are
drained
and
to
protect
it
during
the
winter,
and
we
would
certainly
then
turn
the
lights
off
for
the
winter,
because
it
would
be
silly
to
have
them
on
or
if
people
say.
Well,
we,
like
the
fountain,
that's
something
I
would
have
to
talk
to
the
fountain
designer
with
and
our
electrical
engineer.
I
I
assume
it
would
be
possible
to
leave
them
on
if
that's
what
people
wanted.
J
F
F
A
Correct,
yes,
so
in
and
that's
we
can
set
it
up
so
that
the
pathway
lights
are
a
separate
line,
and
so
lighting
of
the
pathways
in
the
park
are
independent
of
the
fountain.
So
it's
you
know
the
the
pathway
lighting
it
does
not
get
turned
on
at
the
bound
does
in
fact
get
turned
off,
but,
like
claire,
I
mentioned
we'll
we'll
talk
with
the
fountain
designers
and
see
what
their
recommendations
are
are
around
that.
G
G
M
I
I
didn't
have
a
question
per
se,
but
your.
G
M
Was
the
way
that
that
we
didn't
know,
I
I
don't
know
how
I
did
that,
but
anyway,
I
might
as
well
just
ask
this.
Just
as
a
please
remind
me,
clara,
because
it's
been
a
while
since
we've
talked
about
this
project
were,
is
this
fountain
being
designed
in
such
a
way
that
it
would
be
safe
for
children
to
use
it
in
the
summer
time
as
a
water
fountain
I
mean
not
as
to
splash
and
play
around
in
or
are
we
not
designing
it
that
way.
J
Well,
there
will
not
be
a
name.
You
can
stop
me
if,
but
if
it
will
be
a
very
low
pool,
you
know
it
will
follow
codes
for
how
much
standing
water
you
can
have.
I
can't
forget
whether
it's
9
inches
or
12
inches,
but
it
will-
and
I
will
not-
I
would
say
we
wouldn't
encourage
people
to
play
in
the
fountain.
I
don't
think
that's
the
city's
policy,
but
there's
not
going
to
be
anything
from
stopping
someone
who
wants
to
crawl
step
into
the
fountain.
Maybe
you
can
answer.
A
It
so
if
it,
if
it
were
to
be
intended
for
child's
play,
it
would
have
to
have,
we
could
not
have
a
recirculatory
system,
so
we
would
have
to
have
water
flow
from
the
top
and
out
completely
so,
and
that's
because
of
sanitation
purposes.
A
So
this
similar
to
our
other
ornamental
fountains,
are
not
intended
for
play.
Play
features.
A
Does
that
answer
your
question
jennifer.
A
Perfect-
and
I
I
believe
I
saw
another
hand
up
that
may
have
gone
down,
may
have
been
an
accidental
hand,
raise
anybody
else.
Oh
there
we
go
ted.
I
see
ted
has
a
question.
G
Be
calling
on
ted,
I
would
have
to
make
ted
a
panelist
because
it
says
his
he
has
an
older
version
of
zoom,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
so
I'll.
Let
that
happen
for
a
moment.
A
G
A
All
right,
ted,
you're,
muted
right
now,
so
in
the
lower
left
hand
side
there
is
an
on
mute
if
you
click
that
it
should
allow
us
to
hear
you
there
we
go
great.
I
One
of
the
things
I'm
I'm
heavily
involved
in
the
geneva
cliffs
and
we're
not
doing
much
up
there
now
because
of
various
reasons.
But
in
the
past
we've
done
a
lot
of
community
events
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
always
missing
and
very
difficult
to
deal
with
was
having
some
sort
of
an
access
to
power
for
a
public
address
system.
Even
if
you
just
wanted
to
have
a
microphone
to
introduce
the
mayor.
J
A
Linda
you
cut
out
for
a
little
bit
there,
so
I
I
I
heard
from
a
microphone
type
volume,
augmenter
and-
and
that
was
the
last
I
heard.
Are
you
able
to
repeat
the
next
part.
A
I
A
Sure
so
we
can
what
we
tend
to
do
when
we
have
electrical
access
within
our
parks
is
to
prevent
vandalism
or
improper
use
of
them,
oftentimes,
they're,
locked
and
so
during
permitted
events.
You
can
request
access
to
that,
and
that's
certainly
something
we
could
look
into
within
this
project
and
again
it
may
come
down
to
funding
whether
that
that's
possible
to
incorporate
okay,
but
but
yes,
we
can
certainly
look
into
that.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
for
that.
F
Nathan,
has
the
epoxy
department
directed
any
money
toward
this,
as
of
yet
like
made
any
commitment
other
than
cpa
money
or
like
anything,
coming
through
the
park's
capital?
Yet.
A
Not
yet
what
we're
hoping
to
do
within
this
process
is
finalize
a
preferred
design
and
fountain,
and
then,
when
we
have
that
clara's
team
will
work
to
get
the
project
shovel
ready,
as
ed
had
mentioned,
that
will
give
us
an
accurate
cost
estimate
that
we
can
then
put
that
into
next
year's
capital
requests.
A
But
with
that
being
said,
we
capital
funds
aren't
the
only
resource
we'll
be
looking
at
to
help
fund
this
project.
There's
a
variety
of
grants
and
other
money
that
we
will
be
looking
to
also
contribute
to
this.
F
So
we're
looking
at
potentially
the
wintertime
january
february,
we'll
be
able
to
have
that
shovel
ready.
So
when
we
go
into
our
budget
season,
I
mean
even
before
that
we
can.
We
can
talk
about
it.
Do
you
have
any
sense
of
what
the
city's
commitments
like
do?
You
have
any
sense
of
what
will
be
available
for
grant
money
and
other
things
like
that?
So
what
would
the
ask
of
the
parks,
department
or
the
capital
budget
team
be.
A
Sure
we
aren't
exactly
sure
on
that
again.
I
I
think
our
two
primary
asks
will
probably
be
to
the
brown
fund
and
to
cpa
one
of
the
cpa
funded
the
design
portion
that
we're
in
right
now
and
for
those
entities
to
fund
construction.
They
oftentimes
prefer
a
shovel
ready
plan,
and
so
that's
that's.
Why
we're
trying
to
get
to
that
phase?
To
then
know
if
we
can
get
any
funding
through
them?
How
much
capital
fund
asks
we'll
actually
be
looking
at
here.
F
A
Sure
I
believe
the
brown
fund
opens
up
their
application
in
the
winter
late
winter,
and
so
they
are
still
obviously
covid
impacted
their
awards
this
year,
but
they're
working
on
the
awards
will
probably
be
done
in
the
next
month
or
so
for
those
fundings,
and
I
and
I
don't
know
for
cpa-
I'm
sorry
but.
F
A
Cpa,
typically
those
come
from
the
friends
group.
The
parks
department
does
provide
as
the
property
owner.
We
provide
letters
of
recommendation
and
support,
and
so
I
can
tell
you
both
former
commissioner
cook
chief
cook
now
and
commissioner
woods
have
been
supportive
of
this
project.
So
I
do
not
view
that,
as
as
any
issues
going
forward.
F
And
also
private
money
like
him
and
we're
able
to
rise,
raise
private
funds
also
for
sure
through
ed's
501c.
A
Correct
and
so
one
one
thing-
I
have
encouraged
the
friends
group
to
make
to
ensure
this
project
is
as
successful
as
possible
for
generations
to
come,
and
we
do
not
repeat
history
with
with
a
broken
fountain
that
you
know,
as
ed
mentioned,
disappears,
or
a
line
that
gets
busted
and
never
gets
repaired.
We're
asking
the
friends
group
to
contribute
and
work
to
support
an
endowment
that
can
go
towards
future
years:
maintenance
of
the
fountain
so
that
we
can
make
sure
it
continues
to
operate.
F
My
vote
is
that
that's
that
fountain
has
definitely
been
melted
down
someplace.
Exactly.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank
you.
Counselor
baby.
A
H
Yeah,
so
there
was
a
question
about
the
diversity
of
the
board.
The
diversity
of
the
board
of
karen
charles
peterson
is
on
the
board.
She's,
an
african,
african-american
woman
and
her
house
is
an
abut
abuts
the
park,
the
other
members
are
caucasian.
That's
not
reflective
of
the
entire
neighborhood,
however,
that
distribution
of
ethnicities
is
not
reflective
of
the
friends
of
carbon
square
friends
of
carbon
square,
as
anyone
can
attest.
Who
was
at
any
of
our
public.
H
Multiple
public
meetings
can
tell
you
those
meetings
had
people
from
all
over
the
community
and
were
very
reflective
of
the
community.
The
in
order
for
us
to
get
a
501c3.
We
needed
some
officers.
We
needed
to
put
those
together
kind
of
quickly.
Those
are
the
people
that
were
available
and
willing,
but
I
just
want
to
emphasize
the
diversity
of
friends
of
carmen
square
is
not
reflected
in
the
board.
A
Is
that
enough?
Yes,
yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
ed.
One
thing
I
will
add
on
to
that.
If
anybody
is
in
attendance,
that's
interested
in
getting
involved
with
the
friends
of
coppin
square.
Please
share
your
contact
with
me
and
I
will
make
sure
that
that
gets
to
ed
and
the
friends
and
you
can
facilitate
that
involvement.
A
So
with
that
being
said,
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
open
this
up
to
a
poll
to
vote
and
I
think
megan,
if
you
don't
mind
going
back
to
the
the
screen
with,
I
think
one
more
back
one
more
one,
one
more
there
we
go
perfect.
G
A
I
was
wasn't
there,
we
go
the
one
with
the
plan
and
the
fountain.
So
at
this
point
christine
is
going
to
activate
the
poll,
and
so
that
is
a
yes
or
no,
and
the
question
is
which
will
be
shown
on
your
screen.
Do
you
support
the
proposed
plan
and
fountain,
as
recommended
by
the
board
of
friends
of
cop
square?
Yes,
is
a
support
for
the
plan
that's
currently
being
shown
on
the
screen
with
the
fountain.
G
There's
another
question
in
the
chat
it
says
from
someone
named
host:
how
do
we
make
it
make
the?
How
do
we
make
it
reflect
the
community?
It
is
a
big
and
important
project
that
we
need
to
be
a
part
of
the
decision
making
process.
A
Sure
so
so
again,
if
you
we
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
the
presentation
and
some
of
the
larger
initiatives
and
goals
from
the
parks
department.
One
of
those
is
certainly
to
address
inclusion
and
access
to
parks.
A
So
one
of
those
avenues
is
coming
to
the
community
and
to
seek
input
throughout
this
process.
So
if
there
are
any
input
you
know,
this
is
now
certainly
the
time
to
to
put
that
forward.
A
If,
for
whatever
reason
in
a
community
meeting
setting
you
are
uncomfortable
speaking
or
or
in
this
case
typing,
you
certainly
can
send
any
comments
to
my
personal
to
my
work,
email,
which
I
will
be
shown
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
work,
email
and
phone
number
so
do
not
hesitate
to
reach
out
through
that
platform
as
well.
A
None
all
right
so
that
will
be
logged
into
the
meeting
notes
as
well
and
again
this
will
be
put
up
on
a
project
website.
Will
the
recording
will
be
as
well
and
again
if
there's
any
input
that
you
did
not
feel
comfortable,
putting
out
tonight
feel
free
to
email
me.
A
So
actu,
so
if
you
skip
back
just
to
the
next
to
the
next
step
back
home
page,
so
again
as
we
we
mentioned,
clara
claire
bachelor
landscape,
architects
are
going
to
continue
to
finalize
the
shovel
ready
documents
and
bidding
documents
we're
going
to
conti.
The
friends
group
is
going
to
continue
to
campaign
for
a
maintenance
trust
to
help
raise
money
for
the
ongoing
maintenance.
When
this
project
is
built.
A
A
H
Did
I
just
make
a
comment
nathan
about
the
maintenance?
It
has
been
suggested
as
nathan
said,
that
friends
of
carbon
square
create
an
endowment
for
the
continued
maintenance
and
we've
been
working.
We've
been
consulted,
consulting
with
the
friends
of
the
boston
common.
H
H
Jeff
doray
and
I
have
been
talking
to
them
and
we
they've
recommended
someone
who
does
a
lot
of
maintenance
for
fountains
it's
more
complicated
than
I
had
envisioned,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
really
heavy
lift
for
us
to
raise
the
amount
of
money
that
we
will
need
to
have
in
the
endowment
so
that
every
year
it
can
pay
out
sufficiently
to
maintain
the
the
fountain.
H
Basically,
the
parks
department
will
maintain
the
lawns
and
trees
and
so
forth,
but
the
fountain
will
will
need
maintenance
and
that's
going
to
be
a
really
heavy
lift
lift.
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
in
there.
Thank
you.
G
I
have
another
question,
sorry,
which
I'm
going
to
allow
chanterelle
to
answer
a
new
division.
So
I'm
going
to
read
it
out,
it
says:
can
we
have
a
welcome
to
vote
in
geneva
sign
near
the
square
chancellor?
Would
you
be
able
to
try
to
see
if
we
can
get
something
like
that.
H
K
G
I
think
that's
something
we
would
have
to
work
out
with
chantel
and
she
can
figure
out
how
to
get
that.
A
Let's,
let's
let
chantal
speak
here
as
well.
N
Not
everybody,
yes
I'll,
definitely
have
to
follow
up.
I
don't
know
who
wrote
the
comment
you.
G
We
have
your
email
on
the
next
slide
towards
the
end,
so.
A
So
so
again,
thanks.
Thank
you.
Everybody
for
for
signing
on
here,
as
I
mentioned.
If
there
was
anything
you
didn't
feel
comfortable
with
here
is
my
contact.
Both
my
email
and
phone
number
so
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me,
christine
has
her
contact
here.
So
if
you
have
interest
in
getting
involved
with
the
friends
group,
christine
is
the
point
of
contact
that
can
help
facilitate
that
and
that
connection,
and
especially
this
and
for
that
last
question.
A
Chantelle
is
our
ons
office
of
neighborhood
services,
rep,
and
so
her
email
and
phone
number
on
here
as
well.
One
thing
I
will
point
out,
though,
is
if
you
have
any
other
concerns
in
your
neighborhood
that
are
not
directly
pertaining
to
this.
Please
feel
free
to
utilize,
the
boston
3-1-1
that
you
can
use
that
through
an
app
through
tweeting
as
well
as
calling
in
anything
you
put
into
that,
gets
put
into
a
queue
that
can
be
followed
and
and
responded
directly
to
you.
A
So
that's
a
great
avenue
to
kind
of
track
any
any
items
that
need
repair
or
issues
in
your
neighborhood
all
right
with.
That
being
said,
I
think,
unless
there's
any
other
questions
or
hand
raising,
which
I
do
not
see,
I
think
we'll
conclude
but
again
look
out
for
the
email
to
go
on
to
a
project's
webpage.
That
will
be
the
best
avenue
to
find
that
website
site
is
to
google
comments,
improvements
to
cop
and
square
and
that
your
google
analytics
should
have
that
pop
it.
A
As
one
of
the
first
links,
I
will
tell
you
that
my
ability
to
create
project
websites
is
currently
down
for
some
reason,
so
we
will
be
having
that
live
within
the
next
few
days,
though,
and
within
the
next
week.
The
meeting
minutes
from
tonight
the
presentation
and
the
video
will
all
be
on
that
project
website.
All
right.
If
there's
any
any
last
questions
or
anything,
we'll
conclude
the
meeting
great
job,
you
guys
great
job
thanks,
everybody
have
a
good
night
good
night.