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From YouTube: Paula Titus Park Design Meeting #3 April 29, 2021
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Paula Titus Park Design Meeting #3 April 29, 2021
A
A
So,
just
a
few
housekeeping
items
tonight
tonight's
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
will
be
available
on
the
project
website.
So
please
share
with
any
neighbors
who
may
not
have
may
have
been
interested
but
unable
to
attend
during
the
presentation
portion.
We
ask
that
you
keep
your
video
and
mic
off.
However,
during
the
discussion
period,
in
an
effort
to
make
this
you
know
similar
to
an
actual
in-person
meeting
and
if
you're
comfortable,
we
ask
that
you
do
turn
your
cameras
on
next.
A
You
simply
do
that
by
clicking
the
little
camera
icon
and
when,
if
you
use
the
hand
raise
or
if
you
raise,
you
know
visually
on
your
camera
and
we
can
see
it
we'll
be
calling
on
you
through
the
q,
a
portion
by
hand's
being
raised
and
visual,
and
then
christine
will
be
unmuting
you.
So
you
can
ask
your
question.
A
B
A
A
We
also
have
her
contact
there,
she's
great
for
any
community
group
or
neighborhood
group
activities,
specifically
with
parks
from
our
design
team
from
clara
bachelor
associates,
is
kayla,
bachmann
and
jocelyn
wolf
and
then
just
as
a
contact
in
case
there
are
conversations
or
issues
that
aren't
specific
to
the
park,
but
neighborhood
I
have
gant,
who
is
the
office
of
neighborhood
services
representative?
So
there
are
his
contact
there
as
well.
A
We
have
put
in
a
request
in
this
coming
capital
fund,
so
the
boston
parks
department
has
has
recommended
that
kim
janey's
administration
has
is
pushing
that
through.
So
that,
then,
will
go
in
front
of
city
council
as
a
vote
on
the
mayor's
budget,
and
if
that
is
approved,
then
we
actually
will
be
able
to
move
right
into
construction,
so
fingers
crossed
that
that
funding
goes
through,
but
it
it
could
always
be
funded
and
delayed
one
year.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind,
but
but
we're
gonna
all
keep
our
fingers
crossed
next.
A
So
just
going
over
kind
of
what
our
department's
park
design
policy
and
process
is,
we
primarily
balance
these
these
various
elements
which
include
community
input,
such
as
tonight,
safety
and
regulatory
guidelines,
city
of
boston
priorities,
as
well
as
parks
and
recreation
goals.
Next,
so
the
city
of
boston
priorities
during
this
proj
project
planning
is
prior
to
prioritize
and
expand
park,
access,
address,
equity
and
climate
resiliency,
promoting
public
health
and
building
strong
communities.
A
Okay.
Next,
the
parks
and
recreation
goals
are
in
some
ways
very
similar.
It's
accessibility
to
all
diverse
and
balanced,
in
striving
for
mixed
use,
having
inclusive
community
engagement,
having
adapt
in
resilient
landscapes
and
then
to
promote
connections.
Next,
so
now,
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
kayla.
She's
gonna
go
over
some
of
the
previous
meetings
and
and
then
transition
into
our
preferred
plan.
Tonight
I
want
you
all
to
keep
in
mind
that
the
preferred
plan
certainly
can
still
have
changes.
B
B
Again,
I'm
going
to
start
off
with
a
little
bit
of
a
recap
of
the
previous
two
meetings
that
we
have
for
those
of
you
that
haven't
been
able
to
make
it
I'm
going
to
run
through
the
information
a
little
quickly
so
that
we
can
focus
on
sort
of
the
that
preferred
design
that
nate
was
talking
about
tonight.
But
to
start
off,
we
have
a
little
bit
of
context
in
the
neighborhood,
so
this
part
of
roxbury
has
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
diversity
in
screen
spaces.
B
You
know,
there's
these
little
symbols
show
where
there
are
playgrounds
where
you
have
different
sport,
courts
or
fields
things
there
is
a
dog
park
and
then
these
passive
parks
that
are
generally,
you
know
walking
paths
or
places
to
sit
and
there's
a
lot
of
community
gardens
in
the
area
as
well.
So
that's
it's
really.
You
know
we
ran
out
of
symbols
to
show
the
community
gardens,
but
we
have
the
those
orange
dots
to
show
where
those
are
nearby.
B
Our
first
meeting
can
showed
an
analysis
of
the
site,
so
here's
the
park,
here's
fort
avenue,
running
along
the
this
side
of
the
park
here
and
you've-
got
two
private
condominiums
on
either
side
of
the
park
and
this
open
space
at
the
back
of
the
park,
that's
owned
by
beach
glen,
it's
directly
across
from
the
margaret
wright
community
garden,
and
then
there
are
several
residents
across
the
street
kind
of
on
either
side.
And
then
this
is
a
big
giant
hill,
as
I'm
sure
most
of
you
know
some
of
these
recap
quickly.
B
We
have
an
analysis
of
the
fencing
so
where
the
entrance
is
now
how
tall
is
the
fence,
a
slope
analysis
that
shows
you
know
you
generally
have
water
running
off
towards
the
street
and
then
kind
of
off
this
little
hill
at
the
top
here
so
running
off
towards
either
side
and
then,
as
far
as
significant
vegetation,
that's
on
the
site.
It's
mostly
grass
there's
been
a
lot
of
stuff.
That's
been
cleared
along
this
corner
and
kind
of
weedy
trees
and
shrubs,
but
there
are
four
apple
trees
that
are
existing
here.
B
B
B
Several
people
asked
about
whether
there
would
be
some
kind
of
opportunity
for
public
art
in
the
space
and
public
art
in
the
city
of
boston
is
controlled
by
the
boston
arts
commissions
that
I
need
got
her.
I
think
it's
changed
a
few
times,
so
I'm
always
hesitant
so
so
they're,
the
ones
that
kind
of
regulate
you
know
they
put
out
the
bids
for
artists
to
design
something
and
it's
separate
from
the
parks
and
recreation
department.
So
that
would
need
to
what
we
can
do
is
provide
a
space
where
that
could
go.
B
B
B
So
we
went
over
in
our
second
meeting.
We
went
over
three
schematic
design
plans.
These
are
those
three
plans,
so
we
showed
options
with
different
kinds
of
shade
pergola
different
seating,
that
open
lawn
concept
changed
a
little
bit
in
each
of
these,
and
we
showed
a
few
potential
options
for
how
you
would
enter
the
park
as
well
as
well
as
larger
and
smaller
play.
B
Spaces,
so
we
what
we
heard
from
that
meeting
whoops
there
we
go
was
that
again,
people
prefer
the
more
natural
color
schemes.
As
far
as
safety
is
concerned,
we
did
ask
a
question
about
fencing
at
the
park,
because
you
know,
there's
sort
of
a
lot
of
options
did.
Would
we
fence
just
the
play
area?
Would
we
fence
the
whole
park
and
there
was
a
preference
for
having
most
of
the
park
fenced
in
so
that
you
know
if
the
kids
playing
in
the
small.
B
So
we
yes
yeah
that
we
do
have
the
surrounding
playgrounds
as
well
shown
there
all
right
now.
The
grade
reveal
and
go
all
right,
so
I'll
sort
of
walk
everybody
through
the
design,
starting
with
the
entrances
so
coming
in
from
fort
ave.
You
have
two
entrances
to
the
park.
This
one
at
the
top
of
the
hill
is
pretty
much
in
the
same
spot
as
the
the
entrance.
B
That's
there
right
now,
although
in
order
to
protect
this
tree
a
little
bit
more,
what
we've
done
is
what
we've
done
is
come
in
at
an
angle,
and
we
did
have
a
lot
of
requests
for
there
to
be
a
second
entrance
to
the
park
from
the
bottom
of
the
hill.
So
a
note
about
the
accessibility
at
the
sidewalk
at
both
of
these
on
this
side,
you
don't
it's
not
really
accessible,
because
you
have
stairs
there
so
we're
following
best
practices
for
the
safety
of
stairs,
but
that
that
wouldn't
be
an
accessible
entrance.
B
Just
because
this
slope
is
really
steep
and
you
can't
get
enough
space
in
there
unless
you
do
a
ramp
which
is
complicated,
and
we
had
comments
at
the
last
meeting
that
people
preferred
to
have.
You
know
the
one
accessible
entrance,
but
then
maybe
use
that
money
that
might
be
spent
on
the
ramp
towards
other
features
within
the
park.
That
would
have
more
added
value.
So
for
both
of
these,
this
sidewalk
does
not
meet
ada
accessibility
standards.
So
what
we
will
do
it
will
not
meet.
B
The
entrance
won't
meet
the
letter
of
the
law
just
because
you
can't
enter
an
accessible
space
from
an
inaccessible
sidewalk
like
there's,
there's
not
really
any.
We
can't
change
the
sidewalk
as
part
of
this
project
and
just
because
the
hill
is
steep,
it's
not
going
to
work.
So
what
we'll
do
is
everything
with
in
the
park
we'll
meet
those
standards
but
you're
kind
of
coming
in
at
like
a
warped
paving
entrance
anyway,
just
to
kind
of
go
over
that.
So
we
have.
B
We
would
have
some
kind
of
entrance
feature
at
the
top
here,
whether
it's
an
arch
or
some
posts
which
or
ornamental
posts
will
show
some
images
of
in
a
little
bit
but
you'd
walk
in
here
we
have
a
raised
planter
to
protect
these
existing
trees
and
kind
of
complement
them
with
a
little
bit
of
new
planting,
and
you
come
into
this
open
plaza
space
in
the
center
of
the
park.
So
here
we
have
a
shade
pergola.
We
have
tables
for
seating,
there's
space
for
you
know
in
the
future.
B
Just
because,
if
your
you
know
kids
are
playing
there,
you
don't
have
that
risk
of
them
going
out
into
the
street
as
much
and
people
said
the
park
was
pretty
or
that
area
can
be
pretty
noisy
with
traffic.
So
having
the
lawn
set
back
a
little
bit
helps
sort
of
reduce
and
not
really
disguise
that
noise,
but
make
it
so
you're
not
right
on
the
street.
B
We
are
showing
a
larger
play
area
and
we've
responded
to
that
request
to
have
plantings
along
both
edges
of
the
park.
So
we
have
some
shade
trees
throughout
this
lawn
space
and
then
kind
of
a
border
of
trees.
Coming
along
this,
this
side
as
well,
the
play
space
is
kind
of
set
into
a
hill.
So
we
would
we're
proposing
a
like
a
slide.
B
And
lastly,
we
have
a
little
space
up
here.
That's
that
has
game
tables
that
could
be
used
for
people
playing
chess
or
checkers
and
as
well
as
a
a
memorial
plaque
that
explains
who
paula
titus
was
and
why
the
park
is
dedicated
to
her
and
sorry
lost.
My
train
of
thought.
Yes,
the
memorial
plaque
would
be
here
and
that
could
be
a
bronze
plaque
or
something
on
a
granite
marker
and
the
last,
let's
see
oh,
the
fencing.
B
B
The
effect
of
the
whole
parcel
just
being
closed
in
and
block
blocked
off
from
the
neighbors,
and
rather
trying
to
soften
that,
a
little
bit
as
well
as
create
a
an
enclosed
space
that,
if
they're
young
children,
these
gates
can
be,
can
stay
closed
unless
somebody's
using
them.
And
you
know
if
you
have
someone
run
off
you're
able
to
catch
them
before
they
get
out
into
the
street
and
as
sort
of
a
second
feature,
this.
B
This
gate
that
goes
to
the
neighboring
private
yard
would
be
either
have
a
combination
lock
or
a
padlock
that
could
be
used
only
by
the
residents
of
this
of
this
building
here,
and
that
was
it's
not
really
bprd
policy
to
have
gates
to
private
property.
But
since
this
is
here
and
it's
well
used-
that's
something
that
was
requested
by
the
residents
of
that
building.
In
the
last
meeting
and
oh
a
couple
things
I
missed
in
this
corner,
we
would
add
some
flowering.
B
This
would
be
sort
of
a
hillside
with
kind
of
a
planted
meadow
grass
underneath
with
flowering
trees.
And
then,
as
you
come
up
the
steps,
we
thought
it
would
be
really
nice
to
show
kind
of
a
monumental
sign
here
that
has
the
name
of
the
park
and
that
you
see
it
both
from
the
street
and
then
as
you're
walking
up
into
the
park.
B
A
A
Yeah,
I
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
we're
currently
doing
city-wide
as
as
an
option,
but
we
can.
I
can
certainly
run
that
up
the
ladder
and
discuss
it,
but
the
one
difference
with
this
playground
versus
marcella
and
lambert
is,
you
know
those
are
much
larger
playgrounds.
This
is,
you
know
a
small
playground
built
into
a
more
passive
park,
so
it's
kind
of
for
the
smaller
kids
that
you
know.
D
B
B
Slide
all
right,
so
we
are
starting
with
the
play
features,
so
the
features
are
proposing
or
based
on
some
feedback.
We
received
last
time
people
really
like
the
idea
of
having
a
slide,
having
sort
of
these
blocks
and
climbers
that
are
set
into
the
hillside
and
some
interactive
panels
for
for
children
to
play
with
as
well
that
are
in
sort
of
the
perimeter
against
the
fence
in
that
in
that
play
area.
B
A
A
E
B
So,
yes,
we,
there
are
a
lot
of
great
instruments
that
are
available
out
there.
We
chose
these
because
anything
with
a
mallet
tends
to
kind
of
walk
away,
no
matter
where
they
are
so
we
tried
to
include
something
that
would
be
subtle,
and
this
is
also
a
great
feature
for
children,
that
or
or
people
really
in
general,
that
might
have
sensory,
different
sensory
abilities
or
issues
as
well
as
disabilities.
C
B
A
F
B
You
know
it
wouldn't
be
stuck
like
this.
It
would
probably
be
something
that's
just
one
level
but
we'd
have
something
similar
with
letters
engraved
that
way
and
then
there's
an
option
to
maybe
do
some
fun,
cutouts
or
decorations
in
the
fencing
as
well.
Some
options
for
paving
we
haven't.
This
is
going
to
be
familiar
to
those
of
you
that
attended
the
last
meeting,
but
we
haven't
really
been
super
prescriptive
with
this.
B
We
are
showing
a
paver
area
in
that
plaza,
but
otherwise
most
of
the
paving
would
be
concrete
and
we
could
look
at
doing
more
decorative
concrete.
Some
people
said
they
didn't
like
the
look
of
plain
concrete,
so
we
could
do
something
that
has
a
pattern
or
different
color
additives
that
would
change
it
as
well
and
then,
as
far
as
furniture
goes,
we
have
a
few
options
of
you
know
we're
showing
a
bench
and
a
backless
bench,
sort
of
just
to.
B
All
right,
so
these
are
two
bench
options:
kind
of
a
more
contemporary
style
and
as
far
as
the
tables
and
chairs
go,
we
can
go
with
sort
of
more
traditional
anchored
furniture
or
these
are
partially
movable
tables
and
chairs.
So
the
the
tables
are
anchored,
but
the
chairs
kind
of
have
it's
almost
like
a
pivot,
so
you
can
move
them
a
little
bit
in
place
and
these
are
at
at
a
park
in
austin.
B
This
is
a
smith
playground
right,
nate,
yeah
and
we
have,
and
they
can
be
made
with
that
game
board
as
well
we're
showing
a
square
table
in
the
plan.
But
you
know
this
is
an
option
we
wanted
to
show
here
and
sort
of
a
third,
it's
kind
of
a
triple
whammy.
As
far
as
photos
go,
we
have
the
middle.
You
know
the
game
tables
the
movable
furniture
and
then
introducing
some
little
pop
of
color
into
the
park.
B
B
And
okay
and
then
we're
showing
two
styles
of
pergola.
This
is
not
really
a
detail
that
we've
developed
very
much
so
far.
We
just
sort
of
have
a
an
outline
shape,
but
there
are
more
traditional
style,
more
contemporary
style.
We
just
wanted
to
bounce
that
off
of
of
this
group
to
see
if
there
was
any
preference
either
way,
and
we
can
come
back
to
any
of
these
slides
with
the
images
when
you
ask
your
question
feel
free
to
be
like.
Can
you
go
back
to
the
slide
with
the
equipment?
B
A
A
You
click
the
little
hand
icon
to
raise
your
hand,
so
that
we
can
call
on
you
to
answer
questions
when
you
do
that,
we
will
unmute
you,
so
you
can
ask
that
question.
Additionally,
if
you
have
your
camera
on
and
you
just
are
raising
your
hand,
we're
going
to
do
our
best
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
call
on
questions
that
way
as
well.
A
For
reference,
I
see
a
few
cameras
turned
on
great,
so
now
we're
just
curious
about
what
your
feedback
is
and
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
on
the
right
page
and
really
putting
and
summarizing
all
of
the
comments
we've
gotten
up
to
this
point
in
in
a
preferred
plan.
That
is
what
you
guys
are
looking
for.
C
C
There
we
go,
I
think,
I'm
unmuted,
you
are
perfect.
I
I
haven't
taken
the
time
to
email
all
of
you,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
the
wonderful
work
you've
done.
Your
designs
have
been
very
thoughtful
and
certainly
meeting
the
requests
and
of
everyone
that's
been
involved.
Your
communication
has
been
excellent.
Your
presentation,
everything
has
it's
been
such
a
positive
experience
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
all
that
everybody
involved
has
done
so.
Thank
you.
B
E
Can
I
be
yourself
hi,
I'm
karen.
I
just
curious
about.
Excuse
me
all
the
trees,
like
I'm
sure
this
is
drawn
to
scale,
I'm
no
landscape
architect,
but
it
just
seems
like
a
lot
of
trees.
Although
I
do
love
that
in
one
of
the
slides,
the
trees,
at
least
toward
the
fort
hill
condominiums,
it
looks
like
maybe
I
don't
know
it
just
seems
like
a
lot
of
trees.
That's
my
my
reaction
and
thank
you
for
the
explanation
about
the
children's
playground.
E
I
personally
think
the
sam
said
playground
and
the
doris
tillman
playground
are
phenomenal.
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
here
that
they
are
the
one
you're
proposing
is
for
smaller
toddlers,
yeah
and
you've.
Almost
convinced
me
that
we
need
it.
I
don't
know
that
we
do,
but
I
have
not
been
involved
in
the
previous
meeting,
so
you
know
late
to
the
game,
but
the
trees.
I
just
think
there
seemed
to
be
a
lot
of
trees.
B
B
I
think,
which
is
10
to
15
feet,
is
a
pretty
pretty
standard
canopy
for
a
smaller
flowering
tree
where
we're
showing
the
trees
that
are
really
planted
together
like
this,
these
would
probably
be
columnar
trees,
so
those
usually
are
ranging
within
kind
of
a
10
to
20
foot
wide
canopy
and
as
they
grow,
they'll
kind
of
grow
together.
So
the
canopies
would
be
up
high,
so
you'd
be
able
to
see
kind
of
below
underneath
the
trunks,
but
then
you
have
a
little
bit
of
screening
more
towards
the
top.
B
C
B
As
far
as
the
trees
over
here,
so
these
are
the
existing
apple
trees,
they're
they're
kind
of
not
really
shown
at
the
size
that
they
are.
But
you
know
kind
of
diagrammatic
over
here
we
have
the
trees.
A
little
spread,
spread
out
a
little
bit
more
and
trying
to
keep
you
know.
Those
would
eventually
grow
to
have
a
big
shade
canopy,
but.
A
Yeah
and
one
thing
just
to
go
back
to
the
trees
along
the
the
lower
edge.
That
was
also
a
request
from
the
condominium
there,
just
because
there
is
an
embankment,
it
kind
of
creates
this
almost
kind
of
amphitheater
just
looking
at
their
house,
it
just
screens
a
little
bit
so
so
when
kids
are
playing
there
and
everything,
it's
not
all
focused
right
at
you
know
really
kind
of
the
second
and
third
floor
of
their
homes.
B
E
E
D
B
We
have
not
picked
specific
species
out
yet
so,
unfortunately,
I
cannot
tell
you
that
we
can
certainly
pick
if
there's
a
kind
of
a
final
height
that
that
folks
have
in
mind.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
to
know
so
that
we
can
pick
species
that
meet
those
requirements.
So
let's
say
I
imagine
some
people
might
have
a
view,
especially
the
houses
across
the
street,
that
they
might
want
to
preserve
if
there's
sort
of
a
40-foot
threshold
or
something
like
that,
we
can
choose
trees.
B
D
B
B
D
A
And
the
one
factor
here
is
where
we
were
looking
for
these
to
provide
some
shade
into
the
playground.
We
would
want
them
to
be
a
little
bit
larger.
It
could
be
that
we
do
kind
of
a
combination
where
maybe
right
now
we're
showing
four
of
those.
Maybe
we
stagger
that
and
change
that
with
you
know,
one
or
two
are
a
little
bit
taller
and
you
know
two
are
a
little
bit
shorter.
That
way
it
kind
of
gives
you
a
staggered
height.
You
get
some
shade,
but
you
don't
get
a
complete
wall
of
trees.
A
A
E
B
A
F
Her
hand
was
up
nate-
oh
sorry,
sorry
yeah!
No,
I
I
love
this
conversation
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
thus
far.
I
think
that,
while
I
I
understand,
I
think
especially
knowing
the
space
right
like
the
idea
of
this
many
trees
being
incorporated
into
such
a
small
space
seems
overwhelming,
but
I
do
understand
also
that
the
space
gets
incredibly
hot,
like
there's
no
shade
cover
right
now,
so
there
really
does
need
to
be
an
investment
in
mature
shade
cover
so
that
it's
a
sustainable
space.
So
I
appreciate
you
for
for
taking
that
into
consideration.
F
I
also
think
that
there's
a
piece
in
that
flowering
tree
versus
regular
tree
piece
where
you
can't
see
the
levels
of
this
the
delineation.
My
question
is
around.
You
know,
as
we
think
about
this
being
from
a
preservation
budget
and,
as
we
think
about
you,
know
the
amazing
apple
trees
and
the
cherry
tree
that
folks
have
already
planted
in
this
space.
Is
there
any
part
of
the
preservation
act
budget
that
requires
that
we
ensure
any
planting
in
this
space?
Is
with
native
plants
to
boston
or
to
roxbury,
specifically
thinking
about
myself
as
a
gardener.
F
A
That's
a
great
question
in
in
comment,
so
there
is
nothing
within
that
that
actually
stipulates
any
of
that,
but
that
doesn't
mean
those
aren't
items
we
can.
We
can
actually
incorporate
and
address
so
you
know,
and
kayla
can
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
this.
We
have
you
know,
especially
at
kind
of
the
stair
entrance.
We
have
the
opportunity,
for
you
know
some
lomo
nomo
type
planting
evergreen
wildflower
type
mixes
in
there.
A
F
B
B
Yes,
new
england,
wetlands
thank
you
jeff
they
are
yeah,
they
have
really
thoughtful
seed
mixes
to
work
for
different
kinds
of
environments,
and
so
we
use
them
a
lot
and
yeah.
As
far
as
the
native
or
as
far
as
the
trees
go
again
tackle
whitney
said
we
would
definitely
prioritize
using
native
trees
and
we
often
refer
to
adaptive
trees.
B
You
know
for
trees
that
will
do
well
in
our
climate,
but
I
I
think
sometimes
it
can
be
really
nice
to
include
sort
of
a
specimen-
that's
not
necessarily
native
but
not
invasive,
either,
just
because
it
adds
a
quality
to
the
space
that
we
can't
always
get
with
only
using
native
trees,
but
wherever
possible.
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
wonderful
species
in
the
northeast
that
we
try
to
use
as
much
as,
but
you
know
as
much
as
we
can.
A
E
E
Okay,
so
one
is,
I
know
in
avid
alva
kitridge
square:
they
the
the
beautiful
park
renovation
there
they
did
put
in
game
tables.
So
my
first
question
is:
do
we
know
if
they're
used?
I
mean
I
like
the
idea,
I
think
they're
super
cute,
that
do
people
really
go
there
with
their
checkers
or
their
chests,
and
or
maybe
it
doesn't
matter
as
long
as
there's
a
flat
surface.
E
My
second
question
is:
in
the
last
decade
highland
park
was
renovated,
with
about
I'm
gonna
say
was
like
half
a
million
dollars
and
a
whole
bunch
of
plantings
were
put
in,
and
unfortunately,
every
summer,
for
example,
there's
decorative
grass
that,
in
my
opinion,
was
planted
too
close
to
each
other.
So
now
it's
almost
like
a
shrub
of
grass
and
every
summer
it
or
it
gets
high
topped.
A
Sure,
and,
and
obviously
that
comes
down
to
kind
of
a
maintenance,
maintenance
problem-
and
you
know,
as
a
city
and
a
department
as
a
whole,
we
are
are
limited
with
our
maintenance
capabilities.
So,
typically,
what
we're
we're
kind
of
limited
down
to
is
is
trees
and
shrubs
and
and
lawn.
So
when
we
tend
to
do
more
elaborate
or
more
more
extensive
planting,
especially
perennial
beds,
we
we
really
do
rely
heavily
on
community
groups
to
help
with
that,
and
because
nobody
wants
to
put
it
in
and
have
it
look
bad.
A
You
know
that
that's
not
good
for
anybody,
so
you
know
again,
if
anybody's
interested
in
joining
a
paula,
titus,
friends
group,
you
know
we
can
certainly
work
to
put
together
a
design.
A
planting
plan
that
has
you
know
is
within
the
capabilities
and
desires
to
maintain
it
and
and
has
kind
of
a
more
aesthetic
appeal
that
that
would
be
more
in
line
with
what
you
guys
would
be
liking
to
see.
A
Yeah,
I
I'm
not
exactly
sure
at
the
kitchen
square
location,
some
parks,
they
are
incredibly
popular,
others,
it
it's
kind
of
a
hit
or
miss
the
one
thing
that
we
were
showing
on
some
of
these
tables
is
that
we
oftentimes
prefer
tables
and
are
perforated,
so
they
have
small
holes
and
it
allows
for
drainage
that
way,
you
don't
have
water
or
anything
pooling
on
them.
What
the
manufacturers
have
started
doing
is
taking
those
perforations
in
actually
making
those
into
kind
of
a
checkerboard
design.
A
A
Thrown
in
a
scenario-
and
it
sounds
like
mark-
wants
somebody
to
challenge
him
to
checkers
at
the
park.
So
if
anybody's
anybody's
up
for
it,
I'm
pretty
sure
my
four-year-old
could
beat
me
in
checkers.
So
I'm
not
going
to
volunteer
myself
but
again
so
put
to
his
point
and
and
what
he's
saying
about
at
kitchen
square?
Sometimes
it
is
hit
or
miss.
But
what
we'd
be
looking
at
is
something
that
serves
multiple
purposes
in
that.
B
Yeah
is
there
any
any
thoughts
on
kind
of
a
direction
on
style?
These
are
both
metal,
which
I
think
would
be
the
material
that
we'd
be
looking
at
here,
just
to
help
it
last
a
longer
time.
But
there's
thoughts
on
whether
sort
of
a
slotted
approach
or
more
of
a
stacked
kind
of
traditional
style
approach
is
preferred
by
people.
Then
we'd
love
to
hear
that.
A
F
That
the
traditional
bit
more
fits
our
neighborhood
aesthetic
right
we're
talking
about
how
this
place
matters
and
how
we
and
are
trying
to
preserve
the
amazing
parks
or
sorry
buildings
that
have
been
here
for
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
years,
so
not
to
say
that
the
traditional
style
is
something
that
was
there
in
the
1800s.
But
I
would
personally
prefer
more
traditional
style,
shading
and.
B
There's
also,
I
was
going
to
say
it's
also
not
like
a
black
or
white
kind
of
thing
too.
We
can
strike
a
balance
and
something
that's
you
know
nods
to
that
traditional
architecture,
but
has
more
contemporary
features
as
well.
These
are
these
are
sort
of
like
extremes.
I
mean
even
the
left.
One
is
a
little
bit
contemporary
just
because
of
the
way
that
the
members
are
set
up
and
they
kind
of
have
that
angling
a
little
bit
but
yeah.
I
think
we
could
find.
A
A
E
A
Sure
there
you
go,
I
think
the
one
thing
to
note,
though,
is
these:
both
of
these
ones
are
very
light.
Colors,
I
think
we'd
probably
be
leaning
towards
a
darker
color
just
to
help
you
know
any
any
debris
or,
or
you
know,
deter
vandalism
or
anything
like
that
associated
with
that
there
most
of
these
come
in
a
ton
of
different
colors,
so
we
can
get
you
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be
jet
black.
It
could
be.
You
know,
nice
soft.
B
A
What
do
people
think
about
the
idea
of
semi-movable
chairs
if
you're,
if
you're,
looking
at
those
kind
of
reddish
chairs
right
there,
what
they
do
is
they
put
like
a
u-bolt
around
the
bottom
so
that
the
chairs
can
slide
in
and
out
a
little
bit?
So
when
you
sit
down
like
so
many
people
are
often
accustomed,
you
know
you
scooch
in
a
little
bit,
so
that
gives
you
the
ability
to
feel
like
it's
movable
chairs
when
it
only
has
a
little
bit
of
movement.
A
I
think
that
allows
you
know
it
allows
you
to
engage
a
little
bit
more
with
that
and
to
have
it
be
a
little
bit
more
of
an
intimate
residential
feel
as
opposed
to
a
you
know,
a
very
urban
park.
So
I'm
just
curious
what
people's
thoughts
are
about
that
and
color
like
we
haven't,
heard
anybody.
Nobody
said
no
to
the
red
chairs
yet
so.
D
B
A
E
B
B
A
D
A
I
see
a
couple
votes
already
in
here
karen
said
purple
and
green
and
jackie.
Oh
sorry,
that's
jumping
around
and
jeff
said
color,
so
it
sounds
like
he's
in
favor
of
some
sort
of
color,
bright,
color,
maybe
and
then
jackie
said
or
blue.
If
you
see
actually
in
the
distance
there
there
is,
there
is
a
blue
back
there.
It's.
A
A
A
Green
yeah,
I
see
flavors
of
blue
and
green.
So
I
think
I
think
blue
is
is
a
natural
color.
So
I
think
exactly
what
mark
just
said.
We
can
find
ones
that
are
in
that,
like
earthy
tone,
so
they're
not
going
to
be
so
flashy,
then
it's
going
to
be
like
a
stark
flash
of
color,
but
it
will
be
an
earth
tone
complementary
to
everything,
but
still
provide
a
little
bit
of
color
in
there.
B
A
C
B
F
A
D
That
was
that
was
going
to
be
my
suggestion
that
you
know.
I
think
that
katie
made
a
really
good
point
about
the
brick
and
I'm
not
so
sure
to
me.
Brick
is
the
way
brick
is
installed
on
walkways
today
and
after
10
years,
you're
going
to
get
some
breakdown
with
regular
break.
It's
just
going
to
happen.
D
D
The
wider
the
wider
pavers
are
much
cement
papers
are
much
better
will
last
longer.
It
is
easier
to
install
them
so
that
there
is
a
smooth
surface,
a
consistently
smooth
surface,
and
I
also
think
what
you're
showing
here,
with
the
dark
dot
on
the
light
yeah.
That
would
also
sort
of
complement
the
color
palette.
If
we
go
with
those
blue
bluish
tables.
D
G
G
G
A
F
Another
note
around
that,
just
to
like
triple
click
on
mark's
comment
around
permeable
papers.
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
we
see
at
kitterage
right
now
is
that,
for
whatever
type
of
paper
they
used
in
that
space
is
not
withstanding
the
elements
it
is
starting
to
break
in
the
areas
entering
and
exiting
the
park,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
from
shoveling
or
from
salt
or
from
what,
but
it
is
you
know
it
was
relatively
new
development.
E
G
Quite
terrible
karen,
my
before
my
time
but
my
office
designed
that
park
and
it's
exposed,
it's
exposed,
aggregate
concrete
that
was
saw
cut
so
it
and
it's
it's
starting
right
where
they
had
to
do
the
saw
cuts
which
is
a
necessary
part
of
concrete,
but
it's
it's
from
the
salt
most
likely
getting
into
those
cracks.
So
it
you
know
concrete,
doesn't,
isn't
you
know,
doesn't
solve
everything
there's
you
know
good
and
bad
of
all
materials.
C
A
D
B
We
could
certainly
look
at
doing
something.
I
agree.
I
think
this
is
a
little
bit
grand.
I
guess
a
question
that
I
have
is
which
entrance.
I
know
that
right
now,
there's
really
just
the
one
entrance
from
the
street,
but
is
there
one
entrance?
That
would
be
more
often
that
should
be
kind
of
designed
as
the
primary
entrance
is
it?
B
B
D
G
Yeah,
to
add
on
to
that,
I
think
you
know
upper
one
would
be
most
used
and
lower
one.
You
know
I
don't
know
if,
with
the
steps,
it's
kind
of
gradual
enough,
where
it
may
not
want
to
be
a
you
know,
big
moment
or
a
celebratory
moment,
but
more
of
a
quiet
you
know
park
up
the
hill
rather
than
hey
everybody
look
there's
a
park
over
here.
You
know
it
did
to
me.
It
doesn't
warrant
that
end
doesn't
warrant
the
grand
or
more
grand
gesture.
D
B
E
E
F
That
is
the
most
dangerous
part
of
that
curve.
So
when
it
comes
to
like
a
safe,
not
to
say
someone's
going
to
run
out,
because
you
said
you're
going
to
put
fencing
and
gates
and
such
to
to
prevent
that,
but
the
safety
averse
or
danger-
reverse
person
in
me-
thinks,
like
we
shouldn't,
be
making
the
main
entrance
of
this
or
exit
of
this
be
right.
At
the
crux
of
the
corner
of
that
hill.
B
B
A
A
It
was
jeff
and
mark
that
kind
of
mentioned,
the
the
stairs
area
being
a
little
bit
softer.
You
know
more
contemplative
space
right.
So
that's
where
the
thought
is
you
know.
Could
these
kind
of
granite
stones
serve
as
a
small
indication,
especially
as
you
come
around
that
corner
you're,
going
to
see
paula's
name
on
there
in
the
park's
name
there,
but
then,
when
you
get
up
the
hill,
you
have,
you
know
more
of
the
kind
of
pedestrian
scale.
A
D
D
D
A
G
D
H
Thank
you.
I
don't
have
a
horse
in
this
race
because
I'm
down
the
hill,
much
more
as
a
regarding
the
musical
instruments,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I'm
living
next
to
lambert
park
where
there
are
no
musical
instruments,
but
the
kids
use
sticks
to
play
the
gym
equipment
as
musical
instruments,
and
it
is
loud
I
mean
I'm
two
blocks
away
and
we
listen
to
it
all
afternoon.
H
H
Sticks
yeah,
it
sounds
like
sounds
like
they're
trying
to
play
bells
from
here,
so
this
may
be
so
much
better
designed
with
all
the
trees
and
everything
like
that,
but
it
sounds
so
pleasant
when
you
pay,
you
play
it
right
now,
added
with
the
traffic
noise
and
everything
else.
I
don't
know
after
this
experience
how
I'd
feel
living
up
against
it.
A
Sure,
I
think
the
one
thing
I
would
note
about
the
chimes
that
we're
showing
here
is:
is
they
don't
have
any
you're
not
banging
on
them
with
anything
you're
tending
you?
Do
it
with
your
hand?
So
the
way
those
chimes
are
done
is
basically
there's
an
outer
metal
piece
with
with
an
inner
post.
So
I'd
be
curious
on
that
one
kayla
is
even
if
you
were
to
hit
that
with
a
stick.
I
mean
it's
designed
for
that
impact.
B
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question
for
the
manufacturer.
This
one
they
really
talk
about
it
being
kind
of
part
of
the
appeal
of
it
is
supposed
to
be
the
resonance
in
it.
So
when
you
hit
it
with
your
hand,
it's
a
very
tactile
experience
because
it
vibrates
and
then
it
I
mean
you're,
not
getting
the
sound
very
well
from
the
from
me
holding
my
phone
up
to
my
microphone
on
my
laptop,
but
it's
it's
kind
of
a
lower
tone
and
they
are
oh.
What's
the
tuning
called
chromatic,
no.
B
B
B
And
just
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
these,
I
know
they're,
not.
We
don't
really
have
pictures
that
communicate
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
show
with
these
rubber
blocks
and
and
climbing
features
go
back
to
the
plan
and
we'll
just
use
this
one.
You
know
for
for
those
of
you
that
are
not
landscape.
Architects
like
jeff.
These
are
your
contour
lines,
so
they're
showing
your
your
slope
as
you
go
down
the
hill,
so
these
dark
ones.
B
You
know
you're
sloping
down
in
this
direction
and
the
intention
with
those
play
features.
So
those
are
those
kind
of
blocks
and
then
the
little
climbers
is
that
they're
set
into
the
hillside.
So
you're,
you
know
you're
coming
from
a
lower
elevation
here
at
higher
elevation.
Here,
it's
not
really
that
much
elevation!
It's
this!
This
is
three
contours,
so
that's
three
feet
of
gray
change.
So
it's
not
very
high,
but
you're
kind
of
getting
that
different
levels.
F
Yes,
so
to
your
point
around
the
slope
and
right
now
that
space
is
very
much,
it
falls
away
right.
The
edges
of
this
area
truly
do
fall
away
and
I'm
sure
that
y'all
have
considered
this
already
but
like
is
there
and
any
additional
kind
of
retaining
wall
pieces
of
this
that
would
be
integrated
or
because
that
space
down
in
the
corner,
where
you
have
the
the
climbers
and
such
like.
I
just
I
struggle
to
see
how
that
would
be
a
useful
like
a
a
well
utilized
play.
C
F
B
Oh
you're,
you
were
cutting
in
and
out
a
little
bit,
so
sorry
that
I
interrupted
you.
But
yes,
we
would
have
like
a
retaining
wall
element
where
there's
fencing
here
so
that
would
it
would
be
a
little
bit
lower
down
below.
Even
though
we
would
still
have
a
slope
here,
it
would
be
reduced
and
then
up
at
the
top
of
the
the
wall
and
fence
it
would
be
a
little
bit
higher.
So
we're
probably
not
looking
at
a
and
this
yeah
most
of
our
slope.
F
F
B
G
B
B
G
A
F
So
as
we
think
about
this
being
a
dog
friendly
space
wallet,
they
need
to
be
on
leash,
like
I
do
want
to
preemptively
advocate
for
the
installation
of
a
dog
waste
station.
Whether
or
not
it
is
the
friends
group
that
then
refills
that
dogway
station.
I
think
that
it
will
help
to
keep
our
parks
cleaner
by
providing
a
place
for
dog
owners
to
clean
up
after
those
dogs.
F
Dog
waste
happens
everywhere
and
there's
there's
really
not
much
that
a
dog
owner
can
do
to
stop
a
dog
in
the
middle
right
like
so.
We
I
understand
what
you're
saying
charlie,
especially
with
a
with
an
a
playground
in
play,
but
that
even
underlines
the
underscores
for
me
the
importance
of
having
the
ability
to
take
care
of
that
waste
easily
and
safely.
D
A
A
I
do
agree
that
you
know,
especially
that
we,
you
know,
I
think
we
presented
in
the
last
meeting-
is
as
soon
as
you
put
up
a
full
perimeter
fence
with
gates
that
becomes
highly
advantageous
for
dog
owners
and
and
I
would
say,
non
responsible
dog
owners
that
will
tend
to
drop
a
dog
right
in
the
gate
and
off
leash
instantly
at
that
point.
Obviously,
there's
no
way
to
control
if
that
dog's,
going
into
the
playground
space
or
staying
in
on
the
plaza
or
lawn
space.
A
So
that's
where
you
know
when
we
were
discussing
that
last
time
we
were
kind
of
weighing
the
pros
and
cons
of
fencing,
because
if
you
remember,
we
had
shown
fencing
just
around
the
playground
area
versus
fencing
around
the
entire
park.
So
that's
that's
where
we're
kind
of
going
with
that,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
on
the
square
footage.
G
A
What
I've
done
on
another
part
that
was
a
little
bit
bigger
than
this,
but
it
also
had
kind
of
a
a
small
playground
interspersed
in
a
more
passive
park.
Is
that
we
put
a
sign
around
the
playground
area,
saying
no
dogs
in
the
playground
to
play
space,
but
then
there's
there's
lot
larger
lawn
space.
You
know
offset
from
that
where,
where
people
do
bring
their.
A
H
A
H
I
would
say
that
what
I
see
from
the
outside
is
you
know,
90
of
the
time
that
works
people
do
walk
their
dogs
in
there
and
if
they
do
they're
on
leash.
There
are
some
sets
of
people
that
come
in
early
in
the
morning
that
give
their
dog
full
reign
of
the
area.
But
very
few
are
hanging
out
on
the
playground
itself.
H
You
know
they
may
cross
over,
but
I've
never
seen
dogs
roaming,
while
kids
are
in
play
at
the
same
time.
But
there
is
a
lot
of
dog
walking,
which
I
think
is
the
same
in
albert
kittredge
park,
and
I
think
it's
great-
that
boston
has
dog
permitted
on
leash
in
all
parks,
because
it
makes
the
park
usable
by
lots
of
people
for
dog
leashed
dog.
A
Some
of
that
will
come
down
to.
You
know
how
the
neighborhood
kind
of
does
a
self-policing
right.
If
we
start
to
see
negative
behaviors,
we
can.
We
can
try
and
address
those,
but
typically
with
a
park,
nice
fresh
brand,
new,
looking,
that's
where
we
can
kind
of
set
the
tone
for
how
we
want
people
to
act
and
behave
in
the
space.
A
With
that
I
see
where
we're
actually
over
time,
but
so
it
sounds
like
for
the
most
part.
You
know
we
have.
We
have
some
tweaking
that
we're
gonna
be
doing.
Kayla
and
jocelyn
are
gonna
work
to
advance
this
and
get
it
at
a
place
where,
as
soon
as
funding
does
become
available,
we
will
we
will
look
to
try
and
get
this
constructed.
A
Obviously
we're
going
to
take
that
feedback
in
and
make
those
adjustments
if
there,
if
you
did
not
speak
tonight,
you
have
any
other
thoughts
comments
that
you
want
to
to
get
in
kayla's,
going
to
quickly
scroll
to
the
kind
of
closing
page
that
has
my
contact
information
thanks,
kayla,
and
so
you
can.
You
can
go
to
the
project
page
for
paula
titus,
see
additional
information
feel
free
to
share
with
neighbors
as
well.
My
email
is
there.
So
again
you
didn't
speak
and
you
want
to
send
information.
D
Hey
I
want
to
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
who
came
on
the
call
tonight.
I
I
thought
that
the
discussion
was
outstanding.
Some
great
points
were
made
and
it's
good
to
see
that
people
have
a
passion
for
getting
this
pod
created
and
used
and
used
appropriately.
So,
thank
you
all.
So
much
really
appreciate
it.