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Bay Village Neighborhood Park Design Meeting May 13, 2021
A
A
I
also
wanted
to
thank
the
community
supporters
who
started
this
whole
process
by
applying
for
edward
ingersoll
brown
grant
funding
and
that
got
us
the
initial
pot
of
money
to
start
the
design
process.
Since
then,
the
parks
department
has
made
an
additional
ask
as
part
of
the
capital
budget.
We've
gone
through
the
preliminary
approvals
process,
and
I
think
we
expect
city
council
to
vote
on
the
budget
in
june
at
some
point,
but
it
was
that
initial
group
that
really
made
this
all
possible
and
then
parks
is
very
pleased
to
contribute
more
to
it.
A
The
purpose
of
the
meeting
tonight
is
really
for
us
to
listen
to
hear
what
the
community's
priorities
are
and
what
you
all
see
as
challenges
and
opportunities.
I
have
with
me
christine
brandeo
who's,
our
community
outreach
coordinator
and
she's
running
the
zoom
meeting.
I
also
have
two
members
of
our
design
team
from
copley,
wolf
design,
group
aaron,
cramer
and
jim
herro,
and
we're
grateful
for
their
participation
as
well.
A
You
know
what
actually
happens
on
the
ground
in
this
park
and
what's
sacred
and
what
would
be
good
to
change
so
we're
we're
really
looking
forward
to
this
process.
So,
let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
A
So
how
you
can
use
this
is,
you
know
you've
all
been
let
in
so
you
joined
either
via
web
or
via
phone
and
we'll
go
through
our
perceptions
of
the
existing
conditions
in
the
park
and
then
at
the
end,
have
a
a
question
and
answer
session.
A
So
let's
go
ahead,
so
I'm
going
to
introduce
our
project
team
and
give
you
an
overview
of
the
project
and
then
aaron
and
jim
are
going
to
do
the
presentation
of
what's
existing
on
the
in
the
park
right
now
and
then
we'll
have
a
discussion
session
at
the
end
and
finally
closing
remarks
and
next
steps.
A
So
next,
please
so,
as
I
said,
I'm
annie,
blair
you're.
I'm
welcome
you're
getting
in
touch
with
me
with
questions
or
observations
whenever
you
like,
christine
from
community
outreach,
jim
crew
is
the
principal
in
charge
of
the
project
for
copley,
wolf
and
aaron
is
supporting
the
effort
and
both
jim
and
aaron
will
talk
about
the
existing
conditions.
A
A
A
and
unfortunately,
the
park
will
need
to
be
closed
during
construction
completely
closed
off
because
it's
not
safe
to
have
public
access
to
the
park,
and
the
expression
is
that
the
contractor
owns
the
park
while
it's
under
construction.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Please
and
erin
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
you.
C
First,
there
you
go
so
just
so.
You
know
I
I've
been
a
south
end
resident
for
36
years,
so
just
nearby
my
daughter
actually
went
to
school
on
church
street
when
before
they
moved
into
the
old
lincoln
school,
so
I've
had
friends
who
lived
in
bay
village,
very,
very
familiar
with
the
neighborhood
and
and
just
the
area
in
general
and
some
of
the
dynamics.
C
So
I
introduced
aaron
to
the
park.
You
know
a
few
weeks
ago
and
we
walked
around
and
took
a
look
at.
You
know
some
of
the
issues
that
that
annie
just
mentioned
as
well
as
went
through
a
lot
of
the
letters
of
support
that
people
had
written
to
the
brown
fund,
asking
for
certain
things
which
some
of
which
were
highlighted
in
that
list
that
annie
just
went
through.
C
So
as
she
mentioned,
we're
really
here
to
listen
and
when
aaron
and
I
walked
around
you
know
we
have
the
observations.
Everyone
has
opinions
and
but
we're
not
here
to
talk
about
design
issues.
That's
that's
we're
here
to
listen
to
you
saying
we
hope
you
look
at
this
and
then
we'll
come
back
and
take
all
those
comments,
as
well
as
the
letters
and
information,
the
letters
and
synthesize
everything
and
then
show
you
a
few
different
options
in
early
june.
C
As
any
mentioned,
and
you
know,
people
will
have
a
have
that
in
their
hands
to
go
off
and
do
their
summer
thing
and
and
think
about
it
themselves
and
and
in
september
we
can
really
get
together
and
really
have
it
come
together
quickly,
hopefully,
and
then
move
into
the
next
phases
which
which
have
a
functioning
and
better
park
by
the
end
of
2022..
C
So
so
I'm
going
to
let
aaron
go
through
some
of
the
analysis,
issues
that
he
and
I
witnessed
out
there,
and
we
understand
that
that
the
park
has
historically
had
a
very
great
support
group.
You
know
people
clearly
are
good
gardeners.
There's
great
plants
out
there,
there's
a
love
for
the
park
with
the
in
the
plaques
and
that
kind
of
thing
that's
out
there
just
seeing
the
items
that
are
left
around
the
park,
you
know
the
hoses,
the
benches
etc.
C
B
Okay
and
this,
this
first
slide
is
just
kind
of
showing
where
the
park
is
in
bay,
village
in
case
and
where
bay
village
is
in
case.
You
were
listening
from
other
parts
of
the
city
of
boston
and
you
you
need
a
little
bit
of
help,
orienting
yourself
so
we're
just
south
of
the
common
just
south
of
downtown
and
then
really
at
the
corner
kind
of
on
charles
street
south
across
from
another
community,
it's
at
the
edge
of
bay
village
kind
of
near
chinatown.
B
So
that
is
where
the
park
is,
and
here's.
So
when
you
get
to
the
site,
this
is
some
of
the
stuff
that
we
observed.
So
this
is
just.
C
Kind
of
eric
can
you
just
step
back
for
a
second
to
the
other
one?
We
do
understand
aaron's
right.
This
is
just
in
case
people
don't
know
where
bay
village
is,
but
we're
assuming
most
of
you
do,
but
but
bay
village
has
always
had
that
unique
position
of
being
its
own
little
island
in
a
way,
and
we
recognize
that
as
well
and
the
and
the
fact
that
the
park
is
at
the
edge
of
that
that
island,
so
the
yellow.
C
Actually
it
highlights
the
drivable
streets
that
are
within
the
park
at
least
driveways
as
well,
and
the
sort
of
the
light
blue
lines
represents,
usually
kind
of
that's
during
non-pandemic
times
can
be
very
sort
of
very
busy,
and
that
includes
the
south
charles
on
charles
street
south,
which
goes
by
the
park.
B
So
here's
just
an
overview
plan
with
a
few
images
main
things
so
here's
charles
street
south
at
the
south
side
of
the
site
as
we
are
as
it
was
shown
in
the
previous
map
site
on
the
north
side,
is
melrose
street,
as
you
head
towards
the
common
like
if
you're
facing
towards
the
common
melrose
would
be
to
the
north
and
the
south
end
of
the
site
is
bounded
by
a
fayad
street.
B
The
site
is
basically
a
has
a
boundary
of
very
lush
plantings,
as
you
can
see
down
in
this
lower
right-hand
image
there.
There
are
lots
of
great
plantings
in
the
park,
there's
a
bit
of
a
two
entrances:
the
charles
street
entrance,
which
is
a
couple
of
steps
down
right
here
and
then
the
melrose
street
entrance,
which
is
just
a
concrete
landing
with
a
gate
with
some.
B
There
are
three
planters
that
are
raised
planters
to
help
kind
of
show
the
edge
of
the
park
and
three
existing
trees
that
are
in
good
condition,
as
well
as
eight
gas
lamps.
B
B
So
this
is
city
water
that
is
draining
out
to
this
storm
sewer
system
and
also
the
fountain
happened
to
be
turned
on
when
we
were
there
and
it
is
currently
actually
overshooting
its
little
catch
basin
and
onto
the
brick,
paving
there's
also
a
great
change
if
towards
the
north
of
the
park
along
on
charles
street
south
at
the
fence.
So
the
the
street
is
about
a
foot
above
the
park
at
this
area,
which
is
why
there's
the
two
steps
at
charles
street?
It
is
much
more
flush
at
melrose
and
fayette
street.
B
There
are
three
existing
raised
planters
around
the
park
and
we
did
notice.
One
of
the
things
we
observed
is
they're
definitely
in
need
of
some
repointing
and
repair
if
people
would
like
those
rehab.
That
is
something
that
we
would
do.
It's
also
some
lush
plantings,
especially
and
here's
just
another
view
showing
them
adjacent
to
the
chinese
church,
which
forms
the
back
of
the
park.
B
Here's
some
more
site
images,
one
of
one
of
the
big
things
we
noticed
is
all
the
lush
plantings.
There
are
tools
that
are
in
the
park
that
people
use
to
help
maintain
the
plantings.
Here's
the
the
mechanical
fountain
box
on
this
right
hand,
side.
That
was
the
image
that
in
the
brown
sun
was
talked
about
needing
every
pair
there's
no
garbage.
There
are
no
permanent
garbage
cans
in
the
park,
but
at
the
corner
of
south
charles
and
fayette,
there
are
some
outside
of
the
park.
B
Here's
just
some
other
site
conditions
showing
again
the
malware
street
entrance
and
how
it
it
go.
You
can
look
up,
broadway
and
just
more
of
the
lush
plantings
and
then
the
walkway
between
the
chinese
church
and
the
park,
where
there's
an
existing
fence
and
really
the
the
raised
condition.
This
relation
this
picture
here
highlights
the
raised
condition.
This
is
the
corner
of
melrose
and
south
charles
and
showing
just
how
the
park
is
really
a
couple
of
feet
lower
than
the
street
grade.
B
So
with
all
that
stuff
in
mind
this,
this
plan
kind
of
is
some
of
our
observations
and
analysis.
The
three
planters
they're
they're
kind
of
at
the
corners
of
the
park,
they're
they're
in
some
need
of
repair.
There
are
the
eight
gas
lamps
which
are
in
good
condition
scattered
throughout
the
park,
so
they
provide
ample
illumination,
but
they
do
not
allow
you
to
provide
electrical
hookup.
B
The
part
right
now
as
it
is
the
brick
paving
the
mortar,
is
indeed
up
some
repointing,
but
the
park
the
paving
currently
slopes
to
this
there's
one
catch
basin
in
the
middle
of
the
park
and
it
slopes
at
a
pretty
good
pitch
to
this
area.
B
There's
the
currents
charles
street
south,
when
you're
talking
about
accessibility,
the
stairs
are
not
accessible.
There's
not
if
you
have
limited
mobility,
if
you
have
kids
in
a
stroller,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
navigate
those
stairs
and
you
would
have
to
use
the
as
it's
currently
set
up
the
melrose
street
entrance.
B
So
really,
if
you
aren't,
if
you
have,
are
carrying
somebody,
if
you're
in
a
wheelchair,
there's
really
only
currently
one
way
into
the
park,
three
existing
trees
in
good
condition,
there's
lots
of
dense
planting
and
the
the
fountain
equipment
is
here.
There
could
be
a
potential
to
bring
electricity
into
the
park
there,
depending
on
what
is
in
there.
There
might
already
be
electricity
and
then
the
existing
fountain
and
jim
is
there
anything
you'd
like
to
add.
C
No,
I
just
we
just
like
to
again
acknowledge
that
we
understand
this
at
the
edge
of
the
community,
so
across
the
street,
there's
also
a
recently
renovated
park
as
well,
and
but
that's
the
south,
charles
community
versus
the
bay
village
community.
C
So
you
know
we'd
like
to
hear
your
opinions
about
how
to
how
do
we
make
this
feel
like
it's
pulled
into
bay
village,
even
more
so
or
even
even
if
that's
an
issue
and-
and
I
think
aaron
did
a
great
job
highlighting
the
effect
of
inaccessibility
of
the
park,
I
mean
with
stairs
being
on
charles
street
south
and
and
a
pitch
which
would
not
meet
ada
standards
within
the
park.
For
a
plaza
and
for
a
plaza,
they
do
have
certain
limitations
which
this
park
would
not
meet.
C
And
one
thing
he
mentioned
sort
of
in
peripheral
is
that
the
the
inventory
of
tools
and
hoses
and
stuff
like
that
which
currently
is
just
stacked
up
against
the
steer
area-
and
you
know,
if
that's
ever
been
thought
of
you
know
as
a
storage
facility
for
that
kind
of
materials
useful.
C
We
just
recently
we
did
the
fountain
over
at
ringgold
park
over
the
past
several
years,
and
although
we
did
not
put
the
storage
box
in
here,
they
actually
have
a
storage
box
for
rakes
and
and
and
spades
and
hoses,
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
to
help
the
neighbors
not
have
to.
You
know
fish
it
out
of
a
closet
or
a
basement,
because
we
understand
everyone
has
limited
space.
B
Part
of
this
presentation
is.
We
would
like
to
hear
what
you
would
like
to
see
at
the
park.
How
can
we
make
the
park
better
connected
to
the
bay
village
community?
C
And
what
aaron
means
by
that
is
that
there's
great
pocket
parks
I
mentioned
ringgold
park,
there's
a
great
little
pocket
park
on
on
bradford
street
hayes
park,
which
is
not
too
far
from
where
any
annie
lives,
and
each
one
has
an
involved
community
group
that
helps
take
care
of
the
park,
and
each
one
has
something
that's
slightly
different.
So
knowing
that
everyone
knows
parks,
if
there's
something
in
there,
that
that's
a
favorite
and
you've
always
wished.
You
had
just
like
to
hear
about
that
as
well.
A
Excuse
me,
I
think,
we'd,
like
confirmation,
we've
been
thinking
about
this,
not
as
a
wholesale
redesign
but
as
a
renovation
of
what's
there.
So
I
think
that
we
could
use
some
insights
about
the
degree
of
change
that
people
want
to
see.
F
So
this
is
john
shope.
I
I
think
I've
been
unmuted
can
I
can
I
be
here.
E
F
Yes,
you
can
oh
wonderful,
thank
you.
So,
just
by
way
of
introduction,
as
I
said,
my
name
is
john
shope
s-h-o-p-e.
I
live
at
56
fayette
street
in
bay
village.
So
not
too
far
from
the
from
the
park.
I've
lived
there
for
over
20
years
now,
back
in
the
early
2000s,
I
was
president
of
the
bay
village
neighborhood
association
for
a
couple
of
years,
and
also
I
was
a
founding
member
of
the
friends
of
bay,
village
parks
and
and
eliot
norton
park,
which,
for
a
long
time,
was
supporting
this
park.
F
It's
since
been
folded
into
bvna,
and
I
had
the
privilege
of
representing
bay
village
when
mayor
menino
opened
up
the
bay
village
park
when
it
was
first
created.
So
I
have
a
lot
of
interest
and
I
walk
by
every
day.
So
a
couple
of
things.
Let
me
first
answer
the
question
that
was
just
raised,
which
is
sort
of
a
renovation
or
total
redo.
F
At
least
I
pre
I
haven't
spoken
about
this
with
others.
I
would
be
more
inclined
towards
a
renovation,
but
I'm
certainly
open
to
other
thoughts
or
maybe
there's
some
sort
of
a
mix
between
the
total
innovation
or
between
renovation
and
total
redo.
F
But
I
do
want
to
convey
the
following
important
concerns
that
might
not
be
obvious
to
folks
in
the
parks
department.
So,
as
was
noted
earlier,
we
are
right
downtown
and
there
are
some
implications
of
that
for
the
park.
So
we're
not
very
far
from
the
boston
common
in
the
boston
public
garden
periodically.
F
There
will
be
a
demand
on
the
part
of
the
larger
public
to
clean
the
drug
addicts
and
the
homeless
out
of
the
common
and
the
the
public
garden.
When
that
happens,
oftentimes
they
seek
to
come
into
bay
village.
So
we
have
to
be
cognizant
that
their
occupancy
doesn't
essentially
prevent
the
use
of
the
park
by
children
and
other
residents.
So
in
a
way
their
use
can
destroy
the
access
by
by
others.
I
certainly
you
know,
don't
want
to
have
my
kids
picking
up
used
needles
and
so
on.
F
So
I
think
that
the
design
of
the
park,
certainly
with
regard
to
seating,
has
to
be
such
that
it
prevents,
or
at
least
discourages.
I
guess,
there's
no
way
of
totally
preventing
discouraging
you
know,
sleeping
on
the
benches.
F
You
know
using
it
as
a
place
to
you
know
sleep
off
of
you
know
a
drug
injection
that
sort
of
thing.
We
have
had
some
success
with
the
park.
That's
right
next
to
the
fire
station
at
the
corner
of
isabella
street
and
columbus
avenue
with
regard
to
the
seating.
Here,
that's
been
an
enormously
successful
little
park
with
seating
and
flowers
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
get
too
much
illicit
use.
F
There
have
also
been
various
proposals
to
put
in
establishments
that
would
sell
to
sell
cannabis
and
so
and
that's
all
fine,
but
the
problem
is
that
it
does
mean
that
there's
the
potential
for
abuse
of
the
park
late
late
at
night,
and
so
I
certainly
would
make
sure
want
to
make
sure
that
while
I
totally
support
the
idea
of
handicap
access,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
ability
to
lock
the
park,
lock
it
at
night,
because
again,
what's
gonna,
if
we
don't
essentially
it's
gonna,
be
become
unusable
by
by
anybody
because
of
the
of
the
debris
that
that
would
be
left
over
from
those
late
night
illicit
uses
so
and
then
a
third
point
again
I'll
sound
like
I'm
very
focused
on
crime.
F
F
In
other
words,
you
want
to
make
sure
that
a
police
officer
who's
who's
going
down
charles
street
south,
we'll
be
able
to
you,
know
from
a
cruiser,
be
able
to
look
into
the
park
and
see
what's
see
what's
going
on
in
there
and
make
making
sure
that
you
know
any
illicit
uses
are,
are
gonna,
be
prevented.
F
And
then
the
last
comment
that
I
would
make
is
that
the
there's
sort
of
the
the
time
that's
in
the
park
and
it's
wonderful
to
see
kids
in
the
neighborhood
going
into
the
park.
It's
wonderful
to
see
birthday
parties
in
the
park.
I've
even
seen
wedding
photos
being
taken
in
the
in
the
park
and
that's
wonderful,
but
I
want
just
to
make
sure
everybody
is
aware
that
some
of
the
enjoyment
of
the
park
is
really
just
as
kind
of
a
view
park.
F
In
other
words,
you
know
we
walk
by
and
we
see
all
of
the
wonderful
flowers
that
have
have
been.
You
know
planted
and
maintained
by
by
a
number
of
bay
villagers
who
are
remarkably
dedicated,
and
I
just
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
nobody
thinks
of
nobody
in
the
parks
department
thinks
that
that
is
somehow
you
know
dead
space
or
not
sufficiently
used
space
or
anything
like
that.
F
There's
there's
really
a
great
amount
of
pleasure,
at
least
to
me,
and
I
think,
to
others
from
from
having
those
from
having
those
flower
beds,
you
know
being
tended,
you
know,
even
if
it
means
that
there's
not
necessarily
as
much
room.
You
know
within
the
space
to
you
know
I
don't
know,
run
around
or
play
ball
or
whatever,
and
in
that
regard
I
would
say
the
contrast
getting
back
to
the
issue
about
sort
of
the
fact
that
we
have
the
neighboring
parks.
F
I
think
the
contrast
with
elliot
norton
park,
with
its
large
green
lawn
is,
is
actually
a
nice
one.
That's
a
great
space
if
you
want
to
you,
know,
sort
of
have
more
kind
of
run
around
type
activity.
Obviously,
there's
a
kid's
playground
there
having
having
the
bay
village
park
as
being
more
of
a
a
kind
of
a
floral
space
and
a
and
a
view,
space
and
and
obviously
a
little
bit
of
a
sit
down
space.
I
think
that's
that's
positive,
so
anyway,
I've
been
going
on
for
a
long
time.
F
So
I
I
think
that's
right
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
that
we
have
frankly
a
bunch
of
other
spaces
that
are
nearby
and
I'll
just
say.
For
instance,
from
the
perspective
of
activity
within
the
bay
village,
community
people
tend
to
have
more
sort
of
gathering
gatherings
at
the
little
park.
That's
at
the
intersection
of
church
in
melrose
streets,
just
because
that's
sort
of
more
central
to
to
bay
village.
So,
for
instance,
this
coming
weekend
we're
going
to
have
the
neighborhood
cleanup.
F
The
meeting
will
be
at
church
in
melrose
and
that's
where
the
city
will
be
handing
out
brooms
and
you
know,
shovels
and
all
that
stuff.
So
those
those
tend
to
be.
You
know
when
there's
the
christmas,
the
christmas
sing-along
that's
again
meet
at
the
bar
park
at
church
and
church
in
melrose,
so
I'm
certainly
not
opposed
to
having
you
know.
People
gather
in
the
bay
village
park.
You
know
during
the
day
for
legitimate
activity
and
so
on,
but
it
has
tended
to
be.
F
You
know,
sort
of
you
know,
couples
small
groups,
sometimes
a
little
birthday
party.
It
tends
not
to
be.
If
there's
anything,
that's
involving
a
lot
of
people
that
tends
to
be
one
of
the
other
larger
parks
that
are
just
you
know
a
stone's
throw
away.
C
Those
are
all
great
comments,
john
and
it's
interesting
that
that,
over
the
past
several
weeks,
erin-
and
I
have
talked
a
lot
about
some
of
your
points,
particularly
safety,
intuitive
safety
yeah.
How
do
you
feel
actually,
when
you're
in
the
park
having
eyes
on
the
park
and
not
just
by
the
police
but
like
church
street?
We
talked
about
how
you
know
that
park,
there's
it's
surrounded
by
eyes
on
the
park
versus
versus
the
the
bay
village
park,
which
which
doesn't
have
so
many
eyes
in
the
park.
C
It's
so
those
are
things
we
do
have
and
we
have
kept
in
mind
as
and
we'll
will
have
in
terms
of
our
consideration
in
terms
of
any
kind
of
proposal.
We
we
put
forth
also
being
someone
who
lives
in
the
city
for
so
long
too.
These
are
issues
that
I
was
chair
of
the
ringgold
park,
design
committee
when
that
was
first
being
renovated
24
years
ago,
or
so
so-
and
these
are
very
familiar
points,
and
I
I
love
annie
your
comment.
C
You
know
you
think
of
this
as
more
as
a
garden.
It
is
in
a
way
it's
because
there
isn't
a
playground
in
there
and
and
it's
too
small
for
too
much
activity
other
than
gathering
yet
simultaneously
the
energy
that
goes
into
the
gardening.
C
There
is
clear
and
it's
it's
nice,
that
it's
a
resource,
so
so
these
are
all
the
things
that
we've
actually
observed
and
hadn't
thought
about
the
you
know
when
they
you
know
when
they
push
the
balloon
from
one
end:
it
it
kind
of
blows
up
the
other
end.
So
when
they're
pushing
indigents
and
such
out
from
one
spot,
you
know
where
do
they
go,
and
we
see
that
in
my
neighborhood
too,
in
the
shawmut
avenue
area,
so
so
yeah
there's
a
the
selection
of
benches.
C
You
know
what
is
it
you
know,
yeah.
Those
are
things
that
we
keep
in
mind,
we're
doing
several
other
parks
as
well.
So
these
are.
These
are
common
denominators
that
we
will
certainly
keep
in
mind
as
well.
So-
and
I
I
love,
hit
the
fact
that
you
could
describe
some
of
the
activities
in
the
park
and
we'd
like
to
hear
more
about
that.
C
So
so
anyone
else
who
wants
to
suggest
types
of
activities
you'd
like
that
gives
us
clue
in
terms
of
how
it's
best
functioning
in
terms
of
circulation
and.
E
E
Thank
you,
john.
I'm
gonna
mute
someone
else.
G
Sorry,
please
don't
worry
at
all,
I'm
here
with
tom
who
actually
waters
the
garden
and
does
a
lot
of
those
nice
plantings
and
tends
to
the
garden
every
day
for
many
many
many
years,
but
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
bring
I'm
very
relieved
and
happy
to
hear
that
it's
more
of
a
renovation
than
a
rehab,
because
I
think
it's
a
great
park
the
way
it
is,
but
we
just
we're
looking
at
the
time
when
we
put
the
grant
in
for
a
renovation
and
we
like
many
aspects
of
the
park,
but
functionality
will
any
improvements
to
the
functionality
would
obviously
be
welcomed.
G
I
did
have
another
chat
with
another
neighbor.
I
don't
know
if
she
was
on
the
meeting
or
not
today,
but
she
had
brought
up
in
the
an
idea
that
might
be
nice
for
the
winter
because
it
is
such
a
viewing
garden
is
to
do
some
plantings
of
interest
that
bring
out
the
winter
aspects
and,
you
know,
add
a
little
bit
of
dimension
and
shape
to
the
garden.
G
That
way-
and
you
know
we're
very
happy
to
hear
the
electrics-
you
know
if
there
is
a
possibility
to
get
electricity,
because
during
the
holiday
season
they
do
put
a
christmas
tree
in
there
and
that's
like
a
holiday
tree,
and
it
is
very,
very
pretty
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
we
also
have
a
music
we
buy
cannot
off.
Hang
just
now
remember
the
name
of
the
nice
man,
but
it's
a
local
group
of
children
who
want
to
practice
their
music
in
the
park
and
we
were
hoping
to.
G
Let
them
start
doing
that
quite
soon.
But
that's
a
going
forward
idea
that
small
groups
of
people
to
practice
that
way
would
be
wonderful
so,
and
that
was
just
two
things
or
two
or
three
things
that
I
wanted
to
mention
in
case.
They
haven't
shown
up
on
your
lists,
but
it
does
seem.
You
paid
a
lot
of
attention
to
our
proposal
and
covered
a
lot
of
what
we
lost
and
we're
interested
in.
So
it
sounds
like
we've
got
a
lot
more
in
common,
which
is
great.
C
And
have
you
do
you
have
any
contact
with
the
community
music
center
in
in
the
south
end.
G
I
can't
remember
the
person's
name
offhand
because
I
can't
my
email
is
broken,
but
I
can
get
that
to
you
and
oh.
C
No,
I
can
actually
ask
myself
too,
but
I'm
I'm
just
saying
that
that
that's
you're
you've
mentioned
that
you'd
like
to
see
other
groups.
Do
that
sort
of
thing
and
they're
you're
a
great
resource
for
your
community
group
to
reach
out
to.
If
you
haven't
already.
G
Because,
as
john
schultz
mentioned,
a
lot
of
people
just
enjoy
the
park
when
they're
walking
by
mm-hmm
they're
beautiful.
It's
got
it's
a
nice
people,
often
just
reroute
their
walk
home,
so
they
can
take
in
the
park
and
see
what's
growing
and
see
who's
there
and
it's
pretty
all
season.
So
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
little
music
or
you
know
some
sort
of
entertainment,
but
to
be
able
to
extend
the
evening
slightly.
We're
not
looking
to
you
know,
have
a
you
know:
raucous
party,
every
friday
or
something,
but
you
know.
G
So
and
tom
also
like
he
really
is
vigilant
about
picking
up
all
the
garbage
and
keeping
and
that's
a
great
issue
that
you
know
he
really
keeps
the
streets
clean
around
the
neighborhood
and
constantly
you
know
he's,
I
think,
helped
get
those
little
bins
on
the
outside,
so
he
manages
those.
You
know
not
much
goes
without
tom
noticing
issue.
G
On
the
village
and
that's
what's
happening
tom
is
there
and
it's
terrific
and
you
know
we'd
like
to
get
any
renovations
that
we
can
and
a
quick
project.
Obviously,
as
best
we
can,
you
know.
B
Then
I'm
gonna
chime
back
in.
We
have
a
couple
of
them
question
and
answers
that
I'd
like
to
just
read
out
loud,
laura
shea
says
the
raised
planters
have
a
nest
of
rats
in
them.
Laura
we
good
to
know.
We
will
make
note
of
that.
B
She
also
says
that
families
and
with
children
use
the
park
which
that
is
good
to
know
it's
very
useful
for
us
to
know
who
uses
the
park
as
as
jim
and
everybody's
been
saying,
it's
good
to
know,
as
we
figure
out
what
kind
of
seating
and
like
electricity
and
other
amenities
we
need.
It's
good
to
know.
Joe
crowd
asked
if
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
child
friendly
fountain.
How
could
a
larger
farm
be
accommodated?
Would
it
need
to
be
recirculating
does
not
annie?
B
I
can
let
you
answer
the
about
recirculation,
but
we
can
definitely
look
at
getting
in
a
slightly
larger
fountain.
How
much
larger
is
up
for
discussion.
A
Sure
so
there
are
a
couple
of
issues
here.
One
is,
as
I
understand
it,
for
it's
on
a
timer
right
now
and
during
the
time
that
it's
operating
the
water
is
not
recirculated
and
it
just
flows
down
the
drain.
A
One
thing
we've
been
talking
about
within
the
department
is:
we
would
much
rather
not
have
that
much
water
go
down
the
drain,
even
though
it's
not
a
big
fountain
with
a
with
a
lot
of
flow,
but
we
might
make
it
more
child
friendly
and
also
more
efficient
and
sustainable.
A
C
Yeah
annie,
I
I
and
for
you
neighbors,
very
short,
walk
from
bay
village.
If
you
know
where
radford
street
is
just
behind
formaggio
south
information,
shaman
avenue,
that's
where
bradford
street
just
runs
behind
that
row
of
buildings,
there's
one
of
those
user
operated
fountains
there
and
it
is
a
child's
delight
adults
to
like
too
so
you
push
the
button
and
it
runs
for
you
know
30
or
40
seconds
or
so,
and
then
it
goes
down,
but
there's
a
surprise
in
it
too.
C
B
Attractive
a
couple
more
comments
came
in
john
shop
says
that
ifa
is
referring
to
apparently
a
different
organization
in
the
community
music
center
cal.
I
I'll
probably
butcher
this
last
name,
I'm
I'm
sorry,
kel
kalakar,
sam
who
lives
in
bay
village
is
the
guy
who
leads
the
other
programs.
B
E
D
My
name
is
keith.
I
live
at
17
melrose
street.
I
just
wanted
to
raise
a
few
points.
One
is
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
enough
resources
to
put
in
a
watering
system,
if
that's
an
option
also
with
the
trash,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
were
thinking
about
putting
trash
in
the
park.
My
concern
is
that
that
was
sort
of
lead
to
more
litter
in
the
park
and
who's
responsible
for
emptying
the
trash
and
stuff.
I
think
when
it's
outside
the
park,
it
kind
of
keeps
the
trash
out
there.
D
So
I
think
that
that's
something
to
be
considered
consider
that
issue
also,
if
they
put
in
you,
know
benches
in
there
be
good
if
they
can
have
the
benches
so
you're
not
sitting
all
facing
each
other
like
like
a
theater
in
the
round
thing,
so
if
they
can
somehow,
if
they're,
facing
different
directions
so
that
you're
sitting
there
and
you
can
have
some
privacy,
I'm
not
sure
how
much,
how
many
benches
will
be
there,
but
just
something
to
consider
and
also
just
curious.
D
You
know
if
it's
a
renovation,
what
will
be
done
if,
if
anything,
just
to
protect
the
existing
plantings,
that
are
more
mature
things
that
would
sort
of
winter
over
some
of
the
trees
and,
if
they'll
be
protected
during
the
process,
and
that's
it
for
me.
C
Keith,
just
just
so,
you
know
it's
we
don't
we
don't
do
these
things
in
a
vacuum,
so,
in
regards
to
any
sacred
trees
that
that
are
that
are
not
obvious
that
you
know
if
they
can't
be
protected,
could
they
be
relocated
that
kind
of
thing,
but
the
mature
trees
that
are
out
there?
I
think
their
cork
trees
are
unique.
C
They
look
healthy,
they
would
be
protected
at
all
costs
so,
and
things
obviously
like
perennials
and
ground
covers
and
all
that
type
of
stuff,
which
is
probably
a
lot
of
tom's
handy
work.
Those
are
the
types
of
things
that,
even
before
a
shovel
gets
put
in
the
ground,
the
pro
a
process
would
be
would
occur
to
see.
What's
could
be
relocated,
move
somewhere
temporarily
and
put
back
or
just
protect
it
in
place,
depending
on
what
the
what
the,
what
the
construction
task
will
be.
A
A
A
There
are
occasional
tables
that
can
be
placed
with
individual
seats
that
are
helpful
also,
so
we
have
a
lot
more
variety
to
work
with
than
we
did.
You
know
20
years
ago.
H
I
see
it
mostly
for
people
either
walking
through
and
looking
at
the
garden
one
of
the
most
delightful
things
about
this
garden
is
that
there's
such
a
variety
of
plants
there
that
there's
something
always
blooming
and
always
color,
and
I
would
love
to
see
that
preserved
because
it
is
quite
beautiful
to
see
a
season
of
color.
H
The
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
personally
found
lacking
and
I
can
see
other
people
have
too.
Is
it's
difficult
to
either
it's
difficult
to
have
a
conversation
in
the
park,
the
seating
that
we've
had
it
previously
and
it's
you
know
it's
it's.
What
we
were
able
to
do
was
not
real
conducive
for
people
like
to
have
a
conversation,
because
the
benches
were
too
small
or
too
far
apart.
H
You
know
just
having
a
couple
people
having
a
nice
conversation,
it's
really
conducive
to
that,
and
that's
not
like
a
large
group.
Well,
it
might
even
be
good
if
you
had
some
occasional
tables
and
stuff
to
have
you
know.
Occasionally
you
know,
maybe
a
committee
could
meet
there
or
a
book
club
or
whatever,
but
mostly
just
having
you
know.
I
see
people
like
a
couple
people
having
conversations.
H
H
You
know
sounds
what
else
is
there
anything
else?
Oh
I'm
glad
to
hear
it
sounds
like
you're.
You
will
keep
the
the
more
mature
trees.
One
of
the
things
in
this
park
is
there's
not
a
lot
of
shade,
so
it's
hard
to
use
in
high
summer
with
a
lot
of
sun.
So
if
we
can
keep
shade
or
think
about
just
not
a
total
shade,
I
love
the
you
know
the
the
flowers
need
that
beautiful
sun,
but
you
know
just
having
like
a
little
place
for
some
shade
in
the
midday.
H
B
Sure
carol,
carlson
in
the
q
a
session
says
during
the
summer
months.
It
is
hard
to
keep
the
garden
from
drying
out
daily.
It
would
be
great
to
get
an
efficient
soaker
hose,
and
so
I
think
this
is
the
second
conversation
we've
had
now.
That
would
be
something
we
would
talk
about
with
boston
parks.
If
we'd
want
to
do
since
we
already
have
a
water
box,
irrigation
or
some
other
way
for
maintaining
the
lush
plantings
in
the.
G
Park,
hello,
again
hi,
it's
ifa,
one
of
the
things
I
was
thinking
would
be
nice
if
we
could
incorporate
in
the
design
seating
that
might
also
be
built
into
the
corners
that
is
on
the
outside
a
little
bit,
because
I
find
sometimes,
if
there's
a
lot
of
children
or
other
people
gathered
already
in
the
inside
people
still
like
to
sit
and
have
a
chat
outside.
So
they
often
hang
around
the
corners
and
do
their
chatting
there.
But
if
there's
a
built-in
seating,
I
wouldn't
I
thought
that
might
be
a
nice
feature.
C
Yeah
I
mentioned
going
around
your
neighborhood
and
and
nearby
to
look
at
what
works
well
and
you
like
in
other
parks,.
D
C
Always
recommend
that,
like
again
I
mentioned
we,
we
did
the
I
was
in
the
park
committee
for
ringgold
park
when
it
was
first
redone,
but
what
we
were,
the
landscape.
Architects
actually
installed
the
fountain
in
the
middle
of
the
park
and
that
actually
has
a
nice
blend
of
planting
permanent
seating
in
the
form
of
a
wall
in
and
a
operable
fountain.
That's
that's
operable
by
the
by
the
user.
So
those
types
of
things
you
know
it's.
G
I
was
very
impressed
with
the
ringgold
park
the
night
I
walked
by
to
see
it.
It
was
just
if
every
corner
of
it
was
being
used.
It
was
a
fantastic
gathering
of
neighbors
and
children
and
every
different
groups
of
people
all
at
once,
and
it
was
really
what
you
know
june
covert.
It
was
seriously
one
of
the
happiest
places
in
the
neighborhood.
It
was
remarkable,
so
the
functionality
was
great
on
that.
Okay,
so
I
really
liked
it,
but
that
was
just
my
point
just
to
incorporate
seating
on
the
outside
too.
A
Well,
let's
go
to
the
next
slide,
which
I
think
is
maybe
the
last
one
and-
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
giving
us
their
thoughtful
insights
and
their
time
and
I'm
encouraged
by
the
amount
of
participation.
A
A
I'm
going
to
let
christine
explain
it
because
she
knows
it
a
lot
better
than
I.
C
C
It
it's
the
the
code
you
can
scan
in
with
your
phone
and
it's.
B
It
points
to
the
it
points
to
the
website
the
boston
parks
website
for
the
redevelopment
of
the
park.
Okay,.
E
Yeah,
if
you
guys,
just
if
you
want
to
just
point
your
camera
in
the
qr
code,
it
will
pop
up
the
website
for
the
project
page
and
you
can
follow
the
updates.
This
will
also
be
posted
on
the
product
page
within
a
week
and
you
can
share
it
out
with
anyone
who
couldn't
attend
tonight.
E
We
have
another,
you
guys
have
a
question
you
have
to
I'm
sorry.
If
he
is,
I
don't
know
if
I'm
saying
it
right
again.
I'm
sorry
there's
about
15
people
from
the
neighborhood
that
attended
today.
C
When
we
come
back
in
june,
just
with
some
ideas
again,
this
could
be
centered
on
renovation,
not
I
got
rehab,
we
come
back,
we'll
be
showing
you
a
bunch
of
different
options
and,
and
it's
really
sort
of
a
working
tool.
It's
not
meant
to
say
here
we're
giving
you.
This
is
what
you're
going
to
get.
It's
really
meant
that
you
come
in
and
you
take
a
look
at
things
and
and
and
and
progress
it
further
with
us.
So
our
goal
is
to
make
you
happy
at
the
end.
This
is
where
you.