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Crawford St and Walnut Ave Playgrounds Design Meeting #3 - September 28, 2021
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
everyone,
this
is
our
third
and
final
crawford
street
playground
in
walnut
park
community
meeting.
My
name
is
lauren
bryant
and
I'm
the
project
manager
for
these
projects
for
boston
parks.
Before
we
jump
into
our
presentation,
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
few,
how
to's
and
what
to
expect.
A
So
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
that
tonight's
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
it'll
be
available
on
the
project
website
within
about
a
week.
For
those
of
you
who
may
not
know
that
we
have
our
project
website,
it
is
boston.gov,
slash,
crawford
walnut
and
I'm
going
to
put
that
in
the
chat
for
everybody
and
we'll
be
updating
that
project
throughout
the
that
website
throughout
the
project.
A
A
So
please
feel
free
to
share
what
you
learned
tonight
and
also
direct
people
to
that
project
website
for
them
to
review
the
recorded
meetings
whenever
their
schedule
allows.
They're
also
feel
free
to
have
them
email
me,
and
I
will
put
my
email
address
in
the
chat
in
a
few
minutes,
and
they
can
also
provide
comments.
A
C
A
Okay,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
tonight's
meeting
is
really
productive
and
helpful
for
all
who
are
attending,
and
each
of
you
feels
comfortable
sharing
your
questions
and
comments.
We
ask
that
you
be
respectful
and
mindful
of
other
people's
time,
so
that
everybody
has
an
opportunity
to
participate.
A
A
So
we
want
to
hear
your
thoughts
tonight
and
that's
why
we're
here.
So
there
are
several
ways
that
you
all
can
engage
with
us,
we'll
be
sharing
a
short
presentation
with
portions
in
the
middle
to
be
able
to
share
your
feedback
and
we'll
also
have
a
larger
discussion
and
question
and
answer
session
after
the
full
presentation.
A
A
A
B
A
So
for
any
of
you
guys
who
may
have
joined
a
little
late,
my
name
is
lauren
bryant
and
I'm
the
project
manager
for
boston
parks
for
these
two
exciting
park
renovations,
as
well
as
about
eight
to
ten
others
throughout
the
city.
Christine
brandeo
is
here
with
us
tonight.
She
is
our
outreach
coordinator
for
external
affairs
she's,
a
great
person
to
talk
to
about
friends,
groups
and
other
general
park
questions.
A
A
So
tonight
we
have
megan,
tompkins,
jessica,
choi
and
jocelyn
wolf
with
us
and
then
j
sean
gantt
is
your
ons
rep
and
I'm
not
sure
that
he's
gonna
be
able
to
join
us
tonight,
but
he's
also
a
really
great
resource
for
the
neighborhood
next
slide.
Please
thank
you
tonight
we'll
be
talking
about
both
crawford
and
crawford
street
playground
and
walnut
park,
and
I
know
it's
not
our
usual
to
talk
about
two
projects
at
once,
but
because
they're
so
close
to
each
other.
A
Next
slide.
So,
like
I
said
earlier,
this
is
our
third
meeting
for
this
project.
The
first
meeting
was
in
june
and
the
second
was
in
july.
So
tonight
we
have
our
third
community
meeting.
We
also
this
summer
did
a
pop-up
in
the
parks
so
that
we
could
also
talk
to
people
in
the
park
where
they
were
out
enjoying
the
space
and
being
able
to
kind
of
talk
through
it,
while
looking
at
it
with
everyone.
A
Did
we
hear
you
guys?
Did
we
really
show
you
a
concept
with
this
last
one,
that's
what
the
community
is
hoping
to
see.
So
what
we'll
do
from
there
is
take
any
feedback
that
we
get
tonight
and
finalize
the
design
turn
those
into
construction
documents
and
we'll
be
bidding
the
project
over
this
winter
for
a
spring
construction
start
for
the
project
for
both
parks
and
we're
looking
at
currently
constructing
both
parks.
A
B
We
design
a
lot
of
parks
and
playgrounds,
and
we
design
a
lot
of
we've
designed
a
lot
of
parks
and
playgrounds
for
boston
parks
and
rec
in
all
all
sorts
of
neighborhoods,
dorchester,
roxbury,
matapan,
east
boston,
you
name
it
we've
probably
done
it.
So
we
love
doing
this
kind
of
work
and
I'm
gonna
start
by
doing
a
very
quick
overview
of
sort
of
the
neighborhood.
Just
to
you
know,
show
a
little
psych
context,
I'm
sure
if
you
live
in
this
neighborhood
or
work
in
this
neighborhood.
B
B
B
But
adjacent
streets
are
walnut
ave,
crawford
street
abbotsford
a
couple
of
other
things
all
right.
I
have
a
theory
that
it's,
the
blue,
slides
that
are
moving
slowly.
Let's
see
I'm
wrong
so
I'll
start
by
along
the
lines
of
that
site.
Analysis
just
show
you
how
close
these
two
parks
really
are
together.
Megan.
A
D
A
E
D
B
C
B
Great,
thank
you
lauren
all
right,
so
I'm
just
going
to
talk
really
quickly
about
what
what
we
already
have
at
the
two
parks
that
we're
talking
about
today
so
walnut
park,
which
is
the
smallest
one.
That's
on
walnut
ave
and
walnut
park
basically
has
a
playground
structure
for
littler
kids
for
sort
of
pre
preschool
age.
Also,
a
larger
structure
for
elementary
school
aged
kids
swings
a
splash
pad,
and
you
know
a
bunch
of
benches
and
seating
options
and
it's
a
pretty
small
park.
B
A
playground
with
sort
of
those
you
know
play
structures
for
both
of
those
age
groups,
and
one
of
the
kind
of
big
things
to
that
we
have
been
thinking
about
for
this
park
is,
is
accessibility
and
slopes.
So
there's
a
lot
of
connecting
paths.
This
park
is
a
little
bit
of
one
of
those
city,
lots
that
you
know
it's
kind
of
in
between
a
block
in
a
way,
so
there's
a
lot
of
cut
through
paths
and
there's
a
lot
of
slopes
that
are
greater
than
than
meet
ada.
B
All
right-
and
I
I
I'm
not
sure
if
I
mentioned,
but
the
the
site
analysis
stuff-
that
I've
showed
so
far-
is
really
what
we
talk
about
in
the
first
community
meeting.
So
we've
already
had
the
two
community
meetings
and
the
one
park
pop-up
meeting.
So
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
the
first
community
meeting
for
walnut
was
to
keep
all
of
the
stuff.
B
B
Also,
the
idea
of
adding
a
splash
pad,
also
upgrading
the
sight
lighting
again
and
one
of
the
biggest
ones
was
crawford.
Currently
has
these
two
spaces
right,
the
playground
and
the
fields
and
somehow
getting
those
to
feel
connected.
So
maybe
having
a
space
in
between,
in
which
you
could
see
both
things,
the
field
and
the
playgrounds
and
then
some
other
things.
You
know
increasing
the
size
of
the
playground.
B
C
B
B
So
the
second
meeting,
usually
what
we
do
is
we
take
all
of
that
feedback
from
the
first
one,
the
one
where
we
look
at
what's
there
and
we
talk
about
what
the
community
wants
and
we
put
together
a
couple
of
design
options
for
the
parks
and
so
I'll
start
with
walnut,
and
these
were
two
design
options.
So
usually,
at
this
phase
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
schematic
we're
sort
of
just
looking
at
different
places.
Things
can
go
different.
B
You
know
types
of
play
structures
so,
as
you
can
see
on
option
a
we
have
all
of
the
play
equipment.
Those
are
the
the
you
know,
wiggly
graphy,
looking
things
in
one
large
area
and
then
an
option
yes
and
then
an
option
b.
The
play
is
actually
laid
out,
pretty
close
to
how
it
currently
is
with
us,
with
the
splash
pad
in
close
to
the
same
place
in
both
and
then
option
b
also
includes
like
a
pergola
for
shade.
B
So
some
of
the
feedback
from
those
two
options
was
were
keeping
sort
of
an
entry
onto
walnut
park,
keeping
the
two
age
groups,
the
play
age
group,
separate
keeping
the
splash
pad
feature
flush.
Instead
of
you
know
those
like
big
wiggly
ones
like
we
had
looked
at
those
initially,
but
I
think
keeping
them
flush
sprays
that
spray
up
allows
us
to
use
the
space
a
little
better
and
also
there's
a.
B
And
then
we
had
this
park
pop-up
the
following
week,
which
was
just
a
couple
of
us,
was
actually
jocelyn
and
lauren
spending
a
few
hours
in
the
park
talking
to
people
using
the
park,
and
this
is
just
sort
of
additional
feedback
that
we're
trying
to
fold
into
our
design.
So
what
we
got
from
that
was
sort
of
a
preference
for
a
taller
play
structure.
B
Preference
for
that.
That
second
plan
with
the
two
age
groups
separate
another
request
for
a
theme
sort
of
50
50
on
the
spray,
and
you
know
a
couple
of
other
other
things
you
know
bright.
Colors
are
always
great
keeping
picnic
tables
and
possibly
including
the
ellis
school
students
which
we
have
been
working
on,
trying
to
get
a
little
design
survey
over
to
them.
B
We're
hoping
to
get
feedback
on
that
soon.
So
that
is
so
that
was
sort
of
all
of
the
feedback.
We'd
gotten
on
walnut,
that's
meant
to
inform
the
the
designs
we're
gonna
show
today:
okay,
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
crawford
now
so
same
process
for
crawford.
This
was
our.
This
were
the
the
two
sort
of
very
schematic
designs
that
we
showed
at
the
second
meeting,
a
lot
of
challenges
with
crawford
because
of
the
slopes
and
sort
of
because
of
the
the
little
skinny
pinch
points
that
you
can
see
on
this
plan.
B
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
one
on
the
left
keeps
everything
pretty
close
to
where
it
is.
The
ball
field
is
in
the
same
location.
The
playground
is
in
the
same
location,
on
crawford
street
up
against
the
fence,
and
the
paths
in
from
crawford
walnut
and
abbotsford
are
all
basically
in
the
same
place,
because
they
can't
really
move
there
isn't
enough
room.
B
One
thing
that
we
would
be
improving
in
both
options
is
the
accessibility
eliminating
stairs
at
any
entrance
and
keeping
slopes
below
5,
so
they're,
ada,
compliant,
essentially
or
or
installing
ramps
as
needed,
which
would
just
be
like
a
slope
to
walk
with
or
with
railings
so
option
a
on
the
left
a
little
bit
angular,
keeping
things
basically
where
they
were
option
b
on
the
right
moves.
The
ball
field
a
little
bit
to
try
to
gain
a
little
bit
of
the
outfield.
B
As
you
can
see,
there's
a
dashed
line,
that's
showing
the
outfield
for
a
little
league
or
softball
sized
field,
and
it's
always
this.
This
field
is
a
little
bit
undersized.
The
outfield
is
a
little
bit
small,
so
we're
just
trying
to
gain
a
little
more
space
here
and
then
on
this
option.
We're
also
moving
the
play,
the
playground
away
from
crawford
street
so
getting
a
little
bit
of
a
green
buffer
there
and
creating
a
plaza
with
a
with
a
shade
pergola
in
the
middle.
B
All
right-
and
here
is
feedback
from
crawford.
The
second
community
meeting
try
to
go
quickly,
because
this
is
a
recap
and
it
will
all
be
up
online
as
well,
and
most
of
this
is
already
there
in
the
previous
meeting
presentations
online,
so
key
feedback
from
the
second
community
meeting
for
crawford,
except
creating
accessible
conditions
at
park
entries,
keeping
that
middle
plaza
overlook
space.
B
Having
played
features
that
sort
of
work
with
the
hills,
because
that's
one
of
the
challenges
of
the
site
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
hills,
moving
the
playground
away
from
the
crawford
street
line,
including
that
splash
pad,
but
keeping
it
near
the
playground
increasing
the
size
of
the
playground.
That
isn't.
This
isn't
explicitly
in
this
note,
but
the
playground
at
crawford
is
pretty
small.
B
We
know
that
the
ellis
school
students
use
it
and,
I
think,
also
possibly,
students
from
the
chatter
school,
so
getting
something
that
you
can
get
at
least
the
whole
class
into
is
was
a
big
goal
and
then
also
adding
adult
exercise
equipment.
So
we
are.
We
will
be
showing
that
and
then
showing
some
sort
of
a
circuit
path
that
you
know,
adults
or
anyone
could
could
walk
a
loop
in
the
park
slide,
and
then
we
did
the
same
thing.
B
B
We
never
want
to
eat
up
all
the
lawn
or
all
the
trees.
We
want
to
keep
things
as
green
as
possible
and
then
improving
lighting,
and
then
you
know
using
the
paths
for
exercise
so
a
lot
of
feedback
on
crawford
there.
We
go
it's
sort
of
a
long
recap
of
the
the
three
meetings
we've
had
so
far,
so
I
am
going
to
hand
this
over
to
jocelyn
wolf
from
cba
and
she's,
going
to
talk
us
through
the
preferred
design
for
walnut.
E
This.
This
design
is
based
off
of
option
b
in
the
previous
version
that,
like
megan
said
head,
has
overarching
ideas
of
realigning
the
park
to
walma
avenue
and
keeping
everything
where
it
is
so
having
separate
areas
for
play
for
kids
of
different
age
groups.
So
we
maintained
the
entrance
at
walnut
avenue.
E
We
introduced
an
entrance
at
walnut
park
for
the
requests
of
our
meetings
with
at
them
park
pop-ups
and
one
thing
that
lauren
and
I
noticed
when
we
were
at
the
park
pop-up-
is
that
actually
a
lot
of
people
use
those
benches
at
the
intersection
of
walnut
avenue
and
walnut
park
to
sit
and
as
a
transitory
space
and
not
necessarily
built
into
the
park.
So
in
this
option
we
reintroduce
the
two
benches,
so
people
can
just
still
would
be
in
the
park,
but
not
necessarily
within
the
fence
limits
of
the
playground.
E
So
we
realigned
the
path
along
walnut
avenue
and
maintained
the
two
to
five-year-old
structure
where
it
was
and
then
the
five
to
twelve
structured
area
where
it
is
so
separated
with
a
path
but
then
introduced.
Some
play
features
for
kids
to
come
together
of
various
age
groups
to
come
together
to
play.
So
I
think
they
have
two
distinct
areas,
but
also
places
for
kids
to
come
together.
E
But
just
redesigned
a
little
bit
is
a
splash
pad
with
some
fresh,
some
flush
sprays,
along
with
the
seat
wall
that
allows
people
to
sit
in
either
face
within
the
splash
pad
or
the
swings
and
then
above
this
splash
pad
is
some
is
the
swings
we're
introducing
another
bay.
Currently,
there's
two
days
of
swings
and
we're
introducing
another
one
to
have
a
dish
swing
on
site,
but
maintain
the
two
to
five
swings,
as
well
as
the
512
and
the
adaptive
sink
seat.
E
And
then
one
thing
I
forgot
to
note
is
that
between
the
splash
pad
and
walnut
avenue,
we
actually
introduced
some
trees
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
shade,
but
also
create
a
little
bit
more
privacy,
because
that
was
concerned
and
brought
up
in
the
first
meetings
that
people
want
a
little
bit
more
privacy
for
kids
playing
the
splash
pad
from
the
busy
street
and
then
kind
of
where
it
is
still
is
the
picnic
area.
But
we
sorry
we
have
some
fire
trucks.
I
hope
that's.
Can
anyone
hear
that
yeah?
E
Okay,
I
think
it's.
I
think
it's
done
okay,
emergency
over
but
yeah
having
a
central
seating
area
underneath
the
shade
structure,
with
some
picnic
tables
and
then
backless
benches.
So
people
can
either
face
within
the
gathering
space
or
face
outwards
towards
the
play
features
and
then
sprinkled
throughout
the
site
are
some
backed
benches
underneath
some
either
existing
shade
trees
or
some
proposed
trees.
E
And
then
one
thing
that
this
plan
shows
is
kind
of
some
flowers
is
a
loose
motif
through
the
of
a
theme
that
we
could
introduce
to
the
site.
It
does
not
need
to
be
flowers,
it
can
be
anything
we'd
love
to
hear
you
guys's
feedback
on
any
things
that
you
think
would
be
fun
that
we
could
integrate
into
the
splash
pad
or
the
play
areas
so
yeah
when
we
open
it
up,
we'd
love
to
hear
any
ideas
that
you
guys
might
have
next.
E
That
can
reflect
on
both,
which
also
has
some
slides
and
some
musical
instruments
on
the
bottom
and
then
next
to
those
are
the
two
types
of
spinners
that
we're
proposing.
One
is
kind
of
more
individual
and
then
below
is
the
larger
one
for
kids
of
various
ages
to
come
together
to
play,
and
then
in
the
top
right
corner
is
the
seesaw
and
then
on.
E
The
bottom
is
the
dish
swing
that
we're
introducing
this
site,
along
with
the
other
existing
swing,
set,
features
that
we
are
going
to
maintain
next,
here's
some
furniture
options,
as
well
as
an
example
of
how
we
can
integrate
a
theme
to
the
spray
pad.
So
this
is
an
example
of
how
we
at
a
different
park,
use
the
solar
system
as
a
theme,
and
so
water
is
coming
out
of
different
planets.
And
so,
if
anyone
jan
has
an
option
for
our
suggestion,.
E
We
love
the
existing
decorative
steel
fences
on
site.
It's
made
from
hand
prints
from
the
david
ellis
school
children
came
from
like
two
decades
ago,
so
we
want
to
maintain
this
kind
of
historic
feature
within
the
community,
but
just
refurbish
it
and
make
it
work
with
the
new
design
and
then
lastly,
there
we
haven't
talked
about,
but
there's
this
existing
concrete
wall
behind
the
swings,
and
we
would
love
to
integrate
some
color
to
that
as
well
and
potentially
even
administer
that
theme
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
something
on
to
that
so
yeah.
E
A
F
A
They
talked
a
lot
about
you
know
getting
kids
getting
to
the
park
safely
and
really
in
terms
of
safety
within
the
park.
There
were
comments
about
concern
with
the
water
play
being
close
to
the
street
for
visibility
and
wanting
that
to
be
farther
away,
but
there
wasn't
anything
more
than
that.
Is
there
something
else
mike
in
particular
you're
thinking
of.
F
F
To
make
sure
that
there's
no
hidden
places
where
people
can
kind
of
congregate,
you
know
like
at
charter,
there's,
there's
different
locate
parks
where
people
kind
of
create
their
own
gathering
spot
to
you
know
to
smoke,
to
do
drugs
and
and
just
to
kind
of
hang
out
at
night.
Is
there
any
lighting?
Here
I
mean
I
know
it's
a
younger
park,
so
I'm
sure
that
they
don't
want
that
much
of
a
later
crowd
there,
but
I
would
just
use.
F
A
Yeah
there
are
gates,
and
what
we've
talked
about
is,
as
you
can
see
in
this
plan
right
now,
the
current
crosswalk
doesn't
go
towards
the
gate
either.
So
some
of
the
things
that
parks
has
been
talking
to-
and
we
started
the
conversations
with
btd
about
trying
to
look
at
some
of
the
crosswalks
making
safer
connections
both
here
and
at
crawford.
We
don't
have
any
final
details
on
that
yet,
but
it
is
a
conversation
that
we've
started,
but
yes,
there
definitely
are
gates
on
all
three
of
those
playground,
entrances.
A
I
have
to
say
I'm
curious
if
anybody
wants
to
jump
in
on
theming,
because
I
know
that
right
now
the
playground
has
those
lovely
hand
prints,
but
I'm
not
necessarily
sure
that
that's
a
theme
unto
itself
right
in
terms
of
patterns
and
the
rubber
surfacing.
We
could
do
a
bunch
of
handprints
right
to
kind
of
connect.
Those
things
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
something
you
know.
I
know
that
the
team
has
the
flowers
on
here.
A
A
And
we
have
mike,
I
had
a
really
good
exchange
last
year
with
folks
at
the
ellis
school
about
involving
the
students
and
the
staff
we
put
together,
surveys
and
sent
them
over
and
the
people
that
I
had
talked
to
were
so
excited
about
us,
collaborating
with
them
and
then
no
one
responded
to
any
of
our
surveys.
So
I
sent
it
again
this
year
and
we
still
haven't
heard
back
so,
unfortunately,
I'm
trying
to
get
that
connection
going
so,
hopefully
over
the
next
coming
weeks.
A
A
Any
other
thoughts
on
any
of
the
play,
equipment
or
sort
of
how
we've
set
this
up.
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
were
really
excited
about
the
idea
of
sort
of
separating
those
age
groups,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
this
was
favored
a
lot
over
that
first
scheme,
because
the
older
kids,
the
younger
kids,
were
a
little
bit
separated
by
that
pathway.
But
before
we
go
on
to
crawford,
I
just
wasn't
sure
if
there
were
any
other
thoughts
or
questions
on
this
design.
H
B
A
F
B
Yeah,
this
is
a
great
slide,
so
that
that
green
spinner-
that
I
always
feel
kind
of
looks
like
a
turtle
is
a
great
kind
of
for
kids
that
have
you
know
different
mobility
or
different.
You
know
body
control,
that's
a
great
thing
to
kind
of
use
collaboratively
with
other
kids
or
with
a
caregiver,
because
you
can
sit
in
that
and
you
know
be
spun
and
you
know
enjoy
it.
B
A
And
we're
doing
oh
sorry,
megan
go
on
and
in
addition
to
the
dish
swing
being
great
for
collaborative
and
a
lot
of
kids
getting
to
play
together.
It's
also
really
good
for
kids
on
the
autism
spectrum,
because
it
sort
of
feels
like
a
little
nest
in
an
enclosure.
So
it's
also
really
great
for
that
that
realm
as
well,
so
it
actually
kind
of
hits
two
different,
really
important
criteria.
F
Thank
you
for
doing
that
and
then
on
your
water
structure.
Have
you
guys
been
able
to
kind
of
tighten
up
the
security
of
your
water
box,
because
I
know
the
one
on
interval
kept
on
getting
vandalized
and
all
that
stuff.
So
have
you
been
able
to
figure
out
how
to
deal
with
that
and
also
pay
attention
to
the
water,
runoff
and
all
those
fun
issues.
A
Yeah
absolutely
and
intervale
so
interval
in
terms
of
the
runoff
is
it,
as
you
know,
mike
is
a
very
different
place
with
the
grade
change
and
luckily,
with
walnut
it's
much
flatter.
So
in
terms
of
the
runoff
it's
much
easier
to
control
and
in
terms
of
the
cabinet
itself,
we
have
gotten.
We've
been
speccing
different
kinds
of
boxes,
with
different
with
different
locks
on
them.
A
F
G
I
All
right,
hi
everyone-
my
name
is
jessica
choi
from
cba
landscape,
architects,
and
I
am
going
to
go
through
the
preferred
schematic
plan
for
crawford
street
playground.
So
this
plan
was
based
mostly
on
the
ideas
shown
in
option
b
and
obviously
further
tweaked
from
comments
that
we've
received
from
all
the
previous
public
meetings.
So
as
shown
in
the
option
b
plan,
this
design
is
mostly
driven
by
this
idea
and
a
community
desire
to
connect
both
sides
of
the
park,
so
the
upper
field
and
the
lower
playground
area.
I
So
we
really
tried
to
focus
on
developing
that
central
between
space,
further
defining
it
into
like
a
plaza
area
where
people
can
gather,
watch
the
sports
games
and
have
a
view
down
to
the
playground
at
the
same
time
and
as
you
can
see
in
the
plan,
it's
all
these
paths.
All
these
new
paths
converge
at
this
point
and
kind
of
branch
out,
including
this
connection
back
to
the
school.
I
The
other
goal
was,
as
mentioned
earlier,
just
was
trying
to
make
the
entire
park
as
accessible
as
possible,
and
obviously
that
was
pretty
challenging
with
the
topography
and
all
the
great
changes
across
the
site,
but
basically
at
every
entry
it
should
be
fully
accessible.
Now
so
at
the
walnut
street
entrance,
we've
removed
those
steps
and
you
can
now
enter
along
a
sloped
walkway,
the
same
thing
from
the
abbotsford
street
entry
from
the
lower
crawford
street
side.
I
I
Basically,
as
you
enter
from
the
crawford
street
side,
you
can,
as
the
cursor
is
showing
you
can
take
a
swing
to
the
right
and
kind
of
follow
that
loop
path
around
the
play
area
and
and
that
loop
path
was
also
in
response
to
one
of
the
requests
to
have
some
kind
of
circuit
path
in
the
park.
And
we
did
try
to
look
at
fitting
that
on
the
ball
field
side,
but
as
megan
mentioned
earlier,
because
that
part
of
the
site
is
undersized
for
a
full
outfield.
I
So
I
guess
they'll
go
through
some
of
the
new
features
on
the
sports
field
side,
so
on
either
side
of
the
ball
field.
We've
added
some
team
benches
with
some
type
of
shelter
or
shade
structure
over
them
additional
benches
on
either
side
of
the
field
for
spectators
to
sit
along
that
main
path.
That
kind
of
runs
north
south,
between
the
plaza
that
upper
plaza
and
towards
abbotsford
street
we've.
Also
added
like
an
exercise
station
that
groups
together
some
individual
exercise
elements
and
then
further
down
where
those
three
paths
kind
of
converge.
I
At
that
big
existing
shade
tree,
we
saw
that
as
an
opportunity
to
add
another
plaza
space
for
like
game
tables
or
cafe
tables
just
kind
of
for
some
more
informal
gathering
and
in
response
to
an
earlier
comment
about
how
the
neighbors
love
using
this
park
to
just
hang
out
and
play
games
and
stuff,
and
so
on
the
playground
side.
I
guess
on
the
next
slide,
we're
showing
an
enlargement
of
this
area.
Just
since
there's
more
detail
that
we
wanted
to
show,
but
again,
basically,
the
playground
has
shifted.
I
More
inward
is
kind
of
more
nestled
into
the
hillside
and
that
sloped
lawn
area.
Basically,
it
kind
of
trans,
essentially
transitions
into
the
playground
and
a
part
of
that
hill
becomes
very
much
part
of
the
play
experience
so
sort
of
like
along
the
northern
part
of
the
play
area.
It's
pretty
much
bordered
by
this
little
hillside
that
the
kids
can
kind
of
run
up
and
down
along
and
and
it
also
kind
of
creates
sort
of
like
a
bowl
or
a
nest
like
feel
to
the
playground
space.
I
So,
as
you
can
see,
there's
three
entry
points
into
the
playground.
There's
the
direct
access
from
crawford
street,
where
you
can
take
those
stairs
up
into
the
play
space
or
you
can
turn
right
and
take
an
accessible
route
towards
that
other
landing,
which
is
also
a
new
entry
point
that
we've
made
from
the
museum
side
where
you
can
keep
going
up
and
along
the
path
that
slopes
a
little
further
more
and
be
able
to
enter
from
basically
the
upper
part
of
the
playground
and
within
the
playground.
I
We've
expanded
it
even
further
to
be
able
to
fit
these
three
main
structures,
including
a
double
dish,
swing,
a
structure
for
older
kids,
ages,
five
to
twelve
and
a
separate
structure
for
younger
kids
ages,
two
to
five
and
kind
of
sprinkled
throughout.
We
can
look
at
incorporating
some
more
episodic
elements
like
musical
instruments
and
again
along
the
hillside.
I
This
is
kind
of
the
view
that
you
get
so
it
is
about
like
a
15
foot,
gray,
change
between
the
crawford
street
side
and
to
the
upper
field
area,
so
quite
a
lot
of
hill
to
deal
with,
but
we've
tried
to
utilize
the
hill
to
kind
of
help
us
organize
the
spaces
across
the
site,
and
so
starting
from
the
upper
left-hand
side.
You
have
the
the
little
league
and
softball
field
transitioning
to
the
overlook
plaza
area
that
connects
the
two
sides
of
the
park
that
little
path.
I
That
looks
like
it's
going
up.
That's
connecting
that's
the
path
that
connects
you
back
to
the
school
and
then
from
there
the
space
transitions
into
that
open,
lawn
space
that
rolls
further
down
into
the
playground
which
you
see
at
the
bottom
section
below
and
and
this
will
this
hopefully
communicates
how
much
we've
expanded
the
play
area
and
also
just
how
it's
kind
of
nestled
in
or
built
into
that
hillside
and
so
that
yellow
that
colored,
yellow
area
represents
the
rubber
sort
of
having
that
raised
edge.
I
And
so
these
are
just
some
precedent.
Images
of
the
play
structures
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
they
could
look
like
currently
we're
showing
for
the
structure
for
older
kids
at
the
top,
basically
something
much
bigger
and
containing
lots
of
different
kinds
of
play,
elements
and
components
and
with
lots
of
room,
for
you,
know,
students
from
the
ellis
school
to
be
able
to
spread
out
across
the
playground
and
be
able
to
climb
up
as
well.
So
this
includes
some
type
of
like
tower
element
to
be
able
to
give.
I
You
know
that
vertical
experience
for
those
kids
and
also
within
the
same
image
are
some
musical
instruments
that
we
can
look
at
incorporating
as
well.
The
lower
left
image
is
what
we're
showing
currently
for
the
younger
kids,
so
something
kind
of
fun
and
geometric
and
and
the
colors
here
obviously
are
not
set
in
stone.
We
can
obviously
change
that.
It's
just
more
to
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
what
the
play
experiences
could
look
and
feel
like
and,
finally
that
image
on
the
lower
right
hand
corner
is
to
help
help.
I
What
would
be
more
likely
is
the
cafe
seating
that
you
see
on
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
that
would
probably
be
installed
underneath
the
pergola
or
at
some
of
those
other
plaza
spaces
and
we'll
also
be
looking
at
some
bench
seating
and
again,
with
the
topography.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
retaining
walls
or
sections
of
retaining
wall
that
will
need
to
be
used
throughout
the
site,
and
so
we'll
also
try
to
look
at
opportunities
where
those
walls
could
also
become
like
a
sitting
element
or
a
sitting
wall
next
slide.
I
A
F
A
It's
it's
still
short
because
of
the
streets.
It's
unfortunately
always
been
small
and
there's
no
way
to
get
it
to
regulation
size.
If
there
was,
we
would
do
it,
but
it's
also
one
of
the
reasons
like
jessica
was
saying,
with
the
request
for
the
walking
loop
we
put
that
around
the
playground,
because
we
didn't
want
anybody,
especially
with
it
being
a
short
field,
not
only
taking
field
space
away,
but
for
safety
but
yeah.
It's
probably
one
of
the
tightest
fields
we
have.
F
A
They
do
yeah,
they
use
the
park
quite
a
bit.
I
I've
talked
to
several
of
the
staff
members
there,
but
we
haven't
been
able
to
get
any
of
the
feedback
from
the
students
yet,
but
they
are
very
excited.
They've
definitely
talked
about
how
the
they
use
the
play.
Sorry,
they
use
the
field
quite
a
bit.
They
do
use
the
playground
a
lot
and
they
did
talk
about
how
it's
definitely
undersized
for
the
groups
that
they
have
out
there.
A
J
Yeah,
I
know
I
know
I
think
it
looks,
looks,
looks
awesome
and
and
really
excited
to
see
it.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
and
one
was
about
like
access
to
and
from
the
ellis
and
from
the
parking
lot.
I'm
just
trying
to
envision
like
what
that
you
know,
and
I
noticed
people
can
kind
of
come
quickly
through
that
area.
It
looks
like
there's
a
pretty
big
barrier
between
the
play
space
and
and
the
parking
lot,
but
I'm
curious
what
that
will
actually
look
like
as
when
you're
in
the
playground.
B
D
B
J
Yeah
yeah,
no,
that's
great,
that's
really
helpful
and
I
and
I
really
like
that
you
added
the
the
loop
and
like
a
really
creative
way
to
do
it.
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
again
tying
into
the
exercise
component
like
is
there?
Do
you
know
how
how
long
the
loop
is
or
the
way
to
like
mark
that,
and
just
like
have
a
note
somewhere
to
let
people
know
if
they're
walking
around
you
know
x
number
of
times.
A
Absolutely
yeah
that
could
even
tie
into
just
like
some
like
there
could
be
a
sign,
but
there
could
also
be
some
graphics
on
the
actual
pathway
itself
and
the
other
thing
and
sorry
jessica.
If
I'm
repeating-
and
I
just
missed
you
guys
saying
it
and
also
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
but
in
terms
of
the
topography,
this
orange
path
around
the
outside,
because
it's
hilly
this
is
inside,
and
this
is
also
another
loop
that
is
ada
accessible.
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
the
other
question
that
I
have
for
the
design
team-
and
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
ask
this
before,
but
in
terms
of
what
mike
was
talking
about
earlier
in
terms
of
accessibility.
One
of
the
things
I
always
love
about
slopes
is
that
sometimes,
when
there
are
pieces
of
equipment
that
have
upper
levels,
sometimes
you
can
actually
get
wheelchairs
out
onto
levels
with
a
ramp
or
something
from
an
upper
level.
Is
this
the
type
of
equipment
that
that
can
happen
on
or
is
it
not
because
it's
the
rope
climbers.
B
H
Hi,
I'm
a
member
of
the
roberto,
clemente
league
and
we've
been
using
the
park
for
a
long
time.
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
what
you
guys
are
doing
great
job.
It
looks
so
far
so
good.
I'm
just
wondering.
Is
this
the
last
time
you
guys
going
to
meet
or
is
it
going
to
be
another
meeting
prior
to
the
construction
yeah.
A
H
A
H
A
No,
that's
that's
great
because
that
hadn't
been
brought
up
before
in
terms
of
the
league
use
of
porta
potties,
and
usually
we
also
like
to
make
sure
that,
in
addition
to
access
like
you
were
talking
about
for
getting
them
there,
we
also
like
to
make
sure
there's
a
place.
That's
easy
for
them
to
be
put
as
well.
So
I
appreciate
that
we'll
make
sure
that
we
look
into
that.
A
H
That's
a
great
part,
we
use
it
a
lot.
We
have
issues
sometimes
trying
to
get
the
grass
cut,
because
the
problem
we
have
sometimes
you
get
a
permit
from
april
to
october,
but
if
we're
playing
out
of
town
they
say
that
we're
not
using
the
park.
Now
we
can't
be
in
two
places
at
the
same
time,
if
we're
playing
a
lot.
F
H
Yes,
they
did,
they
did
a
good
job
and
then
they
raised
it
a
little
bit.
Sometimes
we
had
an
issue
with
breaking
people's
windows,
so
they
made
the
fence
a
lot
taller.
We
take
care
of
that
situation,
so
they've
been
trying
to
work
with
us.
Just
you
know.
Sometimes
they
forget
the
part,
that's
being
used.
A
F
The
I
have
a
couple
few
other
questions
is
there
any
way
that
you
guys
can
help
repair
that
that
driveway,
that
that
he
referenced
about
that's
in
such
bad
repair
that
it's?
But
I
I
mean
I
knew
I
always
knew
that
parks
kind
of
used
it.
I
know
the
school
uses
it
are
you
able
to
swing
any
funds
to
help
repave
that
or
at
least
help
do
some
work
on
it.
A
F
F
F
H
Well,
we
brought
it
up,
but
the
thing
like
it's
like
a
museum
says:
it's
it's
not
ours
and
the
park
is
like
this.
Well,
it
does
not
hours
and
the
school
says.
Well,
we
don't
really.
We
have
nothing
to
do
with
that.
So
everybody's
a
big
circle
going
around
about
who's,
not
in
charge
of
that
parking
lot.
What
is
that
driver?
But
everybody
uses
it.
A
F
A
F
A
F
H
Well,
we
still
do
the
parent
walk,
which
everybody
goes
shoulder
to
shoulder.
We
walk
the
field
back
and
forth
and
believe
it
or
not
this
year
we
haven't
found
not
one
needle
in
that
part
wow,
that's
great,
been
really
good.
Now
we
have
the
people
that
come
by,
you
know,
read
a
book
and
smoke
a
joint
and
as
soon
as
they
see
us
pull
up
they
leave.
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
that,
because
you
know
what
are
you
going
to
do?
H
F
The
other
thing
you
might
think
about
for
your
historical
plaque.
I
would
try
to
tie
it
into
the
museum
you
know
and
and
I'm
not
sure
whether
you
can
rotate
it
or
whether
it's
fixed
or
something
like
that
or
just
make
the
connection.
So
maybe
then
we
can
kind
of
get
everybody
and
the
school.
Maybe
you
know
we
can
figure
out
someone.
We
can
probably
get
people
to
take
some
responsibility
for
our
our
driveway
that
nobody
wants
to
take.
H
A
That's
a
that's
a
good
question
and
a
much
harder
question
this
year
to
answer
than
I've
ever
had
to
answer
before
so
traditionally
on
and
because
we're
doing
two
of
them
at
the
same
time,
because
we're
doing
this
and
walnut
at
the
same
time,
I
would
traditionally
say
it's
between
six
and
nine
months.
Unfortunately,
this
year,
as
with
you
know,
you
see
it
a
lot.
You
know,
even
in
the
auto
industry,
with
the
chips
with
a
lot
of
things.
A
Manufacturing
is
really
hitting
our
projects
hard,
both
with
pvc
pipes
for
drainage,
for
even
the
glue
the
binder
on
the
rubber
surfacing
in
the
playgrounds.
I
we
can't
get
it
for
six
to
twelve
months
right
now,
so
right
now
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
unprecedented
delays
due
to
fabrication
and
manufacturing
issues.
So
traditionally
I
would
say
six
to
nine
months,
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
try
to
push
on
every
project.
A
A
A
Yeah
I
mean
when
the
park
is
closed
for
construction,
we'll
you
know
we'll
work
with
the
permitting
department,
so
they'll
know
when
things
will
be
closed
and
what
traditionally
happens
is
especially
you
know,
leagues
or
anybody.
That's
looking
for
permits,
but
especially
leagues
who've,
traditionally
played
at
any
park.
That's
closed
for
construction.
The
permitting
department
works
with
them
on
relocating
them
during
the
construction
season
to
other
nearby
fields,
so
awesome
and,
and
I'm
assuming,
that
you've
you've
worked
with
paul
mccaffrey
with
permitting
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
yes
with
the
league.
E
A
B
That's
a
great
comment,
and
I
love
it
so
a
lot.
So
generally,
we
try
to
specify
oh
and
I'll
start
by
saying
that,
for
both
of
these
parks,
probably
what
we're
specifying
is
is
trees
more
than
like
shrubs
and
perennials.
I
know
that
the
boston
parks
department
has
very
limited
maintenance
staff
for
managing
gardens
and
a
lot
of
times
we
tend
to
focus
our
tree
plantings
on
things
that
are
native
things
that
are
low
care.
B
You
know,
and
you
know,
are
very
like
water,
efficient
things
that
are
great,
that
that
allow
the
trees
to
do
well
in
difficult
urban
environments,
which,
unfortunately,
a
lot
of
our
parks,
are,
you
know,
think
about
all
those
kids
and
running
over
all
those
groups
and
after
a
while
it
you
know
it
can
have
an
impact.
But
that
said,
we
can,
you
know,
specify
some
of
these
as
flowering
trees.
B
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
you
know
looking
at
this
even
in
the
plan-
you
know
we're
proposing
several
understory
flowering,
trees
here
and
also
with
the
other
shade
trees
that
are
going
in,
like
you
were
talking
about
things
that
have
pops
of
color
different
times
of
year
in
terms
of
what
the
fall
colors
are
and
the
other
thing
that
megan's
exactly
right
and
and
it's
it's
hard
to
tell
the
community
that
we
can't
maintain.
You
know
ornamental
flowering
things,
but
what
we
can
do
is
things
like
bulbs.
A
A
You
don't
have
to
they're
actually
signing
up
for
right
now,
where
none
the
the
parks
department
and
actually
christine
may
be
a
better
person
to
talk
about
it,
but
the
parks
department
donates
bulbs
to
groups
of
organizations
that
want
to
plant
them
in
public
spaces
throughout
the
city.
It's
going
on
right
now
and
you
can
request
them
through.
I'm.
A
E
H
A
One
of
the
other
things
that
we
have
talked
about
here
is
the
potential
of
adding
a
dog
dog
waste
bag
dispenser
and
part
of
again,
and
it
comes
back
to
being
able
to
refill
it
parks,
can't
refill
it
and
be
there
to
check
it
every
time.
But
if
there
are
groups
or
organizations
that
are
willing
to
refill
it
for
us,
we
can
drop
off
boxes
of
bags
so
that
as
it
empties
people
can
refill
it.
Sometimes
neighbors
are
happy
to
do
that.
So
that's
something
that
we
could
look
at
here
as
well.
D
A
Oh
believe
me,
I
know
I
was
at
a
playground
once
when
my
child
was
four
and
he
walked
over
with
a
handful
of
it
that
he
had
picked
up
and
was
like
mommy.
What's
this
and
I
was
like
oh
geez,
so
I
believe
me,
I
completely
understand
it
yeah.
We
went
straight
home
yeah
so
well.
I
do
want
to
respect
everybody's
time.
I
know
we've
got
scheduled
for
another
10
minutes.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
else,
that
anybody
else
wants
to
talk
through
about
any
of
these
or
has
any
other
thoughts.
F
A
G
G
A
Yeah,
that
was
something
let's
see
if
I
can
flip
to
really
quickly.
I
think
it's
this
direction,
one
of
the
things
we
had
heard-
and
we
were
thinking
about
some
signage
similar
to
this
some
things
you
see
in
like
the
national
park
national
parks.
That
has
a
lot
of
interpretive
information
on
it.
So
we
were
thinking
exactly
about
that
with
the
museum
in
the
estate.
A
So
it
the
yes
over
time
is
the
answer,
but
also
to
answer
the
question.
A
lot
of
those
signs
have
had
issues
in
the
past,
and
I
will
say
my
husband
actually
is
a
environmental
graphic
designer
that
does
signage
and
wayfinding,
so
I
know
way
more
about
signs
than
I
ever
wanted
to,
but
the
materials
and
the
products
that
they've
been
developing
recently
have
a
much
longer
lifespan
as
well.
So
yes,
eventually,
they
would
need
to
be
replaced.
A
I
A
D
C
Because
we
haven't
used
crawford
street
as
much
due
to
the
lighting.
I
think
that's
just
been
the
issue
for
everyone
in
terms
of
long-term
use.
I
think
baseball
pretty
much
again.
Is
you
know
on
and
off
from
what
I
can
see?
No
one
brings
in
port-a-potties
to
crawford
street,
but
again,
like
I
said,
it's
just
probably
been
due
to
lack
of
lighting.
So
a
lot
of
it's
day,
games,
quick
or
after
school
use.
A
A
I
know
that
one
of
the
gentlemen
on
the
call
was
saying
that
the
roberto
clemente
league
brings
them
in
sometimes
here.
So
that's
why
I
wasn't
sure
if
you
guys
did
as
well.
So
that's
good
to
know
that,
just
in
terms
of
kind
of,
I
was
going
to
ask
how
you
guys
used
it,
if
you
guys
also
brought
them
in.