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Malcolm X Park Community Briefing: Tree Concern - March 28, 2022
A
But
there
are
this
many
people
in
a
room,
but
I
guess
I
could
I
could
do
that
so
two
things
I
said
I
I
will
and
would
you
mind,
moving
a
little
bit
closer
to
me?
A
A
All
right
does
this
work
all
right
great,
usually
I
would
stand
as
you
can
probably
all
see.
A
That's
not
a
reality
right
now,
so
I
I
will
I'll
sit,
but
usually
I
would
stand
in
front
of
this
size
and
just
don't
have
the
ability
to
agree
to
do
something
so
wanna
go
ahead
and
first
introduce
myself.
My
name
is
reverend
mariama
whitehammond,
I'm
the
chief
of
environment,
energy,
open
space,
which
means
I
oversee
the
environment
department
and
the
parks
department,
and
also
historic
preservation.
A
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
introduce
to
the
folks
who
are
here
from
parks
and
we're
going
to
jump
right
in
because
there
are
a
lot
of
things
to
discuss
and
decisions
to
make.
So
we
have
ryan
woods
who's.
Our
commissioner
kathy
baker,
eclipse.
A
Our
chief
landscape,
architect,
lauren
bryant,
been
a
project
manager
on
this
and
many
other
projects,
liz
sullivan
who's.
Our
director
of
external
affairs,
christine
brandown,
he's
our
community
outreach
coordinator,
maggie
owens
who's,
the
one
of
our
planners,
but
also
specifically
works
at
the
urban
forestry
plan
and
then
michael
easler
who's,
the
project
manager
for
weston
and
sanderson
the
design
team
and
then
at
five.
A
A
Wanna
just
check
in
about
what
we
are
talking
about,
so
we
have
this
design
process
we'll
go
through
like
what
what
the
process
was
but
want
to
be
clear
that
we
are
talking
specifically
in
a
conversation
around
trees,
we're
not
going
to
reopen
the
design
elements
that
were
agreed
on
last
year
through
the
community
process.
So
we're
not
re-talking
about
resurfacing
the
basketball
court
or
the
field
or.
A
We're
actually
only
going
to
specifically
be
talking
in
this
meeting
about
trees
and
about
the
conversation
around
trees,
as
though
all
of
those
other
design
elements
were
part
of
multiple
community
meetings
in
which
people
made
agreements
and
made
trade-offs.
So
we're
not
gonna
re-talk
about
those
things.
A
Okay,
well,
I
I'm
just
saying
at
this
point:
the
conversation
is
around
trees
and
what
we're
doing
around
trees.
Other
people
came
to
the
table.
Some
of
them
are
here,
and
some
of
them
are
not
here
on
some
of
those
other
issues
like
do.
We
have
any
representation
from
the
school
today,
okay,
one
person.
C
D
A
E
A
Also,
there
definitely
can
be.
It
should
be
a
conversation
about
process.
At
what
point
should
we
have
included
conversations
about
trees?
However,
what
we
want
most
is
some
clarity
about
what
people
want
to
do
moving
forward.
I
am
completely
open
to
hosting
hosting
another
meeting
that
specifically
talks
about
process
of
what
points
your
tree
should
come
in
and
we
do
have
a
contract
underway
around
the
park
right
now.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
clear
understanding
about
how
we
want
to
deal
with
the
trees.
A
B
A
A
You're
not
willing
to
talk
about
you're,
only
talking
willing
to
talk
about
the
process
that
you've
gone
through
already,
no
way
we're
not
willing
to
talk
about
the
process
today.
What
we
want
to
focus
on
today
we
will.
We
will
talk.
What
I'm
saying
is
I'm
open
to
another
community
meeting
to
talk
about
process,
how
we
should
do
it
differently
in
the
future?
A
A
D
G
Yeah,
my
name
is
evans
and
I'm
not
going
to
be
disruptive
with
what
you
have
planned
for
this
presentation.
D
G
And
that
we
agreed
that
in
the
ensuing
time
before
this
meeting,
that
there
would
be
no
work
of
any
impact
whatsoever
on
any
trees,
possibly
yeah.
Until
after
there
was
a
community
meeting
and
a
really
engaged
or
engaged.
G
Another
african
american
assistant
from
the
community
representing
the
city
with
us,
despite
those
assurances
such
work,
has
in
fact
happened.
C
G
Are
very
old
and
in
better
condition
than
most
boston,
public,
sidewalks
and
functional
with
culprits
on
either
side
of
them
to
manage.
The
bomb
have
been
about
removed
feet.
Okay
and
more
importantly,
because
I
understand
now,
we've
got
a
whole
big
hornet's
nest
that
we
want
to
manage
as
far
as
this
works.
A
Enthusiasm,
credibility
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
that
I
sit
here.
D
B
A
B
I
was
unfortunately
not
told
that
the
contractor
could
not
show
up
and
do
other
work
at
that
same
time,
and
my
understanding
is,
he
did
not
go
out
there.
I
am
double
checking
with
him
right
now.
There
are
other
people
on
the
chat
that
have
said
that
other
than
deliveries.
There
have
been
no
other
work
done
on
site
this
week
that
I'm
verifying
that
with
the
contractor
right
now
but,
like
I
said
I
was
told
to
not
bring
any
other
trees
down,
I
was
not
told
not
a
single
other
thing
that
happened
on
site.
This.
A
B
A
Will
say
what
I
communicated
like
back
was
call
the
tree
contractor
and
make
it
clear.
We
are
not
taking
down
any
trees
from
this
meeting.
So
I
hear
where
you're
coming
from
your
perspective,
derek
I'm
telling
you
when
I
walked
away
from
the
meeting
and
thought
that
I
had
considered
what
we
agreed.
It
did
not
occur
to
me
to
be
honest
with
you
that
I
just
wasn't
to
be
honest
with
you
thinking
about
the
pathways
so
I'll
just
be
clear.
I
heard
you
and
I
thought
I
followed
up
with
one
of
you-
I'm
not
personal.
A
No,
so
I'm
not
here,
but
I'm
just
saying
if
we're
going
to
use
the
word
trust,
I
think
that
I
I
am
totally
open
to
hearing
you
say
we
thought
anything.
Did
this
and
I'll
be
and
I'll
be
honest,
I
wasn't
even
thinking
about
the
pathways.
I
thought
we
walked
away
with
some
clarity
about
trees,
so
just
keeping
it
real
with
you
and
I
followed
up
and
did
what
I
thought
we
had
agreed
so
wait
hold
on.
Can
we
can
we
do
this?
I
think
my
concern.
D
E
A
A
A
G
F
C
With
them
regarding
that,
and
so
the
pathways
are
an
important
part
about
preserving
the
treaties,.
A
I'll
say
from
my
understanding
of
the
arbor
system:
we're
gonna
really
actually
delve
into
this.
Let's,
let's
look
at
it,
the
it's
less
the
pathways.
It's
the
regrading,
the
regrading,
which
has
not
started
that
has
not
happened,
is
where
you
start
digging
underneath,
like
you
start
taking
soil
out,
that
will
cause
harm
to
trees
and
we're
about
to
talk
about
where
that
was
proposed.
A
A
E
A
A
So,
let's,
let's
keep
moving,
because
I
do
think
it's
worthwhile
to
make
sure
we
all
are
on
the
same
page,
and
we
have
some
space
to
ask
some
questions
so
being
clear.
We're
not
going
to
talk
about
like
the
playground
and
whether
we're
doing
it
again.
You
know
or
the
amphitheater
that
we've
you
know,
sort
of
the
outdoor
classroom.
We
aren't
really
focusing
on
the
tree.
A
So
I,
as
I've
mentioned
that
we
do
have
the
contractor-
wants
to
move
forward
on
friday
with
the
decision
making,
because
we
will
either
have
to
keep
elements
in
the
project
or
not
keep
elements
of
the
project,
and
that
will
affect
these
already
books
to
show
up
and
do
the
different
pieces.
We're
gonna.
A
That
are
supposed
to
happen
like
the
entrances,
etc.
We
have
to
make
those
decisions
so
that
they
can't
so
people
can
keep
doing
the
work
that
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
so
we're
gonna
lean
in
on
a
couple
of
pieces,
so.
A
Here
really
glad
that
folks
are
here,
there
was
a
huge
tension
in
the
last
meeting
about
abutters
versus
folks
that
live
in
roxbury
versus
folks
that
did
not
live
in
roxbury.
We
are
going
to
try
we're
going
to
hear
everyone.
We
are
going
to
try
as
best
possible
to
have
a
little
extra
weight
to
people
who
are
directly
above
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
we
do
that,
but
I
know
that
people
that
was
a
huge
issue
in
the
last
meeting
around
whose
voices
were
heard.
A
A
See
the
trust
is
very
important.
Hold
on
hold
on
show
us
the
pictures,
because
when
we
do
construction
projects
to
be
honest
with
you,
we're
not
even
allowed
to
use
parks,
department
staff-
that's
like
you
can't
do
that.
That's
how
you
identify
themselves.
So
that's
so
picture
we're
not
like
that's
literally,
not
even
right
in
procurement
lab
we've
hired
someone
they're
supposed
to
manage
the
process
from
beginning
to
end,
and
I
did
not
tell
say,
call
them
and
say
do
nothing.
So
that
would
be
my
bad,
but.
A
A
A
G
Removing
pathways
very
close
to
very
large
trees
that
are
in
western
on
honeysuckleville
and
all
the
way
almost
to
the
summit
from
dale.
B
Going
to
really
briefly
run
through
some
of
our
capital
projects
cycle,
we
typically
do
or
capital
projects
we
do
parks
and
playgrounds
fields
and
of
and
courts
playgrounds
are
typically
on
a
15
to
20
year
life
cycle.
By
that
point,.
B
A
Hill,
it
was
not
over
at
the
top
of
the
hill,
so
these
these
these
pathways
live,
are
longer.
B
B
When
we
come
in
and
we
do
a
comprehensive
plan
like
at
alpha
max,
we
try
to
remove
dead,
material
and
plant.
The
new
new
succession.
B
Usually
want
to
clear
up
one
one
point
that
I
think
has
been
going
around
in
the
community:
there
is
a
mass
general
law
chapter
87
which
protects
urban
or
sorry
street
trees
publicly
owned
street
trees.
It's
called
the
and
it
pertains
to
trees
in
the
right
of
way.
There
is
no.
Currently,
there
is
no
state
or
city.
B
Bringing
in
equity,
as
the
base
of
that
is
on
the
on
the
community
advisory
board,
and
so
that's
part
of
what's
what
we're
looking
we're
going
to
be?
Bringing
these
lessons
learned
into.
A
The
project
specifically
just
just
to
clarify
kathy's
point
somebody
asked
me:
is
there,
isn't
there
a
process
to
have
a
hearing
for
every
tree
and
what
kathy
is
mentioning
is
if
the
tree
is
on
the
street
like
in
the
sidewalk?
Yes,
if
the
tree
is
in
a
park
or
in
a
person's
backyard,
currently
yeah,
so
the
question
of
whether
or
not
we
should.
What
did
you
say.
A
A
C
A
Those
would
not
be
under
chapters.
B
B
Okay,
so
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
talk
about-
and
I
know
that
some
of
you
are
recognized
from
having
quite
a
few
community
meetings
for
this
project,
so
just
wanted
to
revisit
before
we
get
into
the
specifics
of
each
of
the
trees
that
we're
talking
about.
I
wanted
to
just
revisit
some
of
the
project,
priorities
and
goals
that
we've
talked
about.
Those
of
you,
who've,
been
at
the
community
meetings,
have
seen
this
slide,
not
with
these
colors
added
to
it,
but
you
guys
have
seen
this
slide.
B
So
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
talked
about
was
some
of
those
goals
are
increased
accessibility.
It's
what
we
talked
about,
and
I
know
that
somebody
asked
in
the
chat
or
in
the
q
a
about
apa
compliance,
and
it's
not
an
ada
guideline
that
we
have
to
go
out
and
make
every
single
one
of
our
parks
ada
compliant
today.
B
G
D
B
It
needs
to
be
brought
up
to
ada
compliance,
which
is
why
we're
talking
about
this
now
because,
as
kathy
said,
we
do
all
of
these
renovations
right.
We
have,
we
did
the
port
at
one
point,
we
did
the
playground
at
one
point,
but
we
have
not
looked
at
malcolm
x
park
as
a
whole,
which
means
that
the
ada
compliance
has
not
been
looked
at
from
a
circulation
standpoint
right,
because
that
was
not
what
was
looked
at
when
we
first
did
that
renovation.
B
B
We
talked
about
upgrading
the
park
entrances
because,
as
we
know
right
now,
there
was
only
one
entrance
that
was
ada,
accessible
and
michael
talked
about
the
upgrades
from
where
we
are
there's
there's.
I
believe
a
90-foot
range
change
right
in
the
park
from
high
to
low,
which
is
pretty
steep
right.
So
we
know
that
we're
already
up
against
challenges
with
accessibility,
but
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
people
said
was
a
priority
in
the
park.
Is
to
not
only
make
them
accessible
but
more
unifying
and
welcoming
as
well.
B
B
Them
we
talk
through
it
and
that's
part
of
what
we
prioritize
addressing
safety
concerns
that
also
has
to
do
with
visibility.
It
has
to
do
with
the
health
of
trees
in
terms
of
limbs
or
trees
coming
down,
so
that
was
a
priority
in
the
project
and
also
protecting
the
putting
stone
outcroppings
in
the
historic
walls
we
heard
about
it.
A
lot
in
terms
of
people
don't
want
us
to
touch
the
pudding.
They
don't
want
us
to
touch
the
historic
walls
in
terms
of
alignments
and
pathways,
plus
also
renovating
and
bringing
up
to
modern
day
standards.
G
B
B
This
room
has
been
a
part
of
the
process
full-time,
so
just
wanted
to
do
a
quick
reminder
of
what
we
have
been
doing
over
the
past
couple
years.
We
started
the
community
process
back
in
may
of
2020..
We've
done
quite
a
few.
I
don't
even
know
how
many
right
now
different
community
meetings
for
different
different
parts
of
the
project
field
or
the
history
component
or
the
park
in
general
in
terms
of
all
of
the
design
renovations
to
the
different
various
components.
B
So
that
is
an
update
for
where
we
are
and
a
reminder
for
what
the
goals
are
for
the
project
and
then
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
mike
easler
who's
the
project
designer
for
western
exams.
Let
me
know.
F
Good
evening
everybody
I've
met
some
of
you
before
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
disagree
because
I
think
touched
on
most
of
it
and
just
to
re-emphasize
that
our
goal.
C
F
B
F
F
Route
to
the
playground
off
of
martin
luther
king
jr
boulevard
and
there's
one
accessible
route
to
one
of
the
softball
fields.
Everything
else
on
site
is
not
considered
accessible
by
ada
or
maab
maab
standards.
That's
the
americans
with
disability
act
and
massachusetts,
architectural
access
board.
Typically,
that
is
a
five
percent
slope
or
less
for
any
walkway.
D
A
Okay,
this
is
something
this
is
something
I've
heard
people
sort
of
say.
Why
don't
we
just
widen
the
pathways,
and
I
want
to
also
speak
then
a
few
degrees
of
slope,
if
you
are
stealing
with
mobility
issues,
is
a
major
issue.
There
are
places
in
city
halls
that
are,
in
theory,
ada
accessible,
and
I
worry
about
whether
I
will
fall
down,
so
I
I've
never
thought
about
it
before,
but
I'm.
A
Now-
and
so
I
do,
I
think
I
don't
think
people
mean
to
be-
you
know
insensitive.
I
think
they're
trying
to
figure
out
a
middle
way,
but
I
want
to
keep
it
real
that
a
couple
of
degrees,
change
in
slope
means
a
lot
of
people
cannot
appreciate
it,
and
some
of
you
all
know
that
my
aunt
gene
barnett
lived
on
may
5th
street
and
could
never
be
part
of
what
was
going
on
in
malcolm
x
when
she
went
on
to
a
walker,
and
my
uncle
was
a
rush
for
softball
in
there.
A
So
I
I
know
we're
gonna
have
to
talk
about
tradeoffs,
but
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
like
out.
You
know
idea
that
we
could
make
it
accessible
and
not
change,
and
I
I
think
I
want
to
be
really
clear
sloping
when
you've
got
a
mobility
challenge
has
to
be
right,
or
else
it's
not
safe.
For.
A
G
A
A
G
So
my
point
is
your
own
data
and
our
own
contributions
and
from
the
very
beginning,
including
what
I
meant
with
michael
on
hundreds
about
the
challenges.
Then
of
first
of
all,.
C
G
A
G
A
G
A
A
A
C
A
C
A
Didactically
explained
why
aba,
which
is
not
required
yes
hold
on
ada,
is
required
from
grades
apart.
I
mean
you
know
as
well
as
I
do
on.
A
A
F
C
G
Can
get
the
park
and
the
department
itself
say
provided
wheelchair
things
that
are
part
of
the
park
accessibility.
We
can
solve
this
problem,
but
no
we're
talking
about
contractors
and
contracts
that
have
already
been
signed
and
ada
broadly,
you
know
just
splattered
across
the
park,
including
where
it's
not
needed
as
severely
as
in
other
places.
A
A
A
C
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
D
G
D
A
D
G
A
People
say:
is
it
wasn't
intended
to
be
accessible
and
I'm
just
saying
at
the
time
that
brother
cloud
moves
to
design
this
park.
There
was
no
ada,
there
was
no
and
where
I
feel
attention,
I'm
just
gonna
keep
it
real.
Is
I
hear
you?
I
also
feel
like
I'm
supposed
to
pay
attention
to
the
people
whose
voices
are
maybe
not.
A
B
A
D
D
D
A
C
And
then
the
second
part
is
because
we're
touching
these
spots,
we
now
have
to
touch
these
other
spots
because
of
ada
compliance
requirements.
What
I'm
asking
is,
can
we
just
first
start
with
the
parts
that
we're
going
to
touch
and
then
from
there
talk
about
those
separate
pieces
and
what
are
the
ap.
C
A
A
C
C
C
A
B
A
A
person
who
is
mobility
challenge
can
participate
in
the
park,
and
I
think
that
is
a
different
standard
and,
from
our
perspective,
that's
like
the
next
slot.
That
is
a
high.
No.
What
I'm
saying
is
this
shows
you,
our
big
picture
hold
on
we're
going
to
get
to
the
next
slide,
which
looks
at
the
specific
trees.
What
I'm
saying
is
from
a
big
picture.
A
A
C
Which
is
how
do
we
achieve
all
these
books
and
what
I'm
saying
is
I
I
suggest
that
we
start
with
the
work
that
necessitated
accessibility.
First,
okay,
that
work
as
I'm
looking
can
be
broken
into
three
distinct
projects:
the
field
to
the
top
left,
yep,
the
basketball
courts
to
the
bottom
yep,
and
then
the.
A
B
D
B
B
Goals
that
we're
trying
to
meet
there
are
parks
department
goals
we're
trying
to
meet.
There
are
also
federal
accessibility
and
play
standards
that
we
are
trying
to
meet
so
we're
trying
to
balance
all
of
these.
These.
A
Different
opportunities
in
this
in
the
final
site
design.
So
that's
why
community
input
is
incredibly.
A
A
A
F
We
did
everything
we
could
with
trying
to
balance
the
goals
of
this
universal
inclusivity
and
accessibility
and
saving
as
many
trees
as
possible
through
every
trick
in
the
book
for
creating
this
properly
and
we'll
discuss
a
few
more
but
existing
canopy
conditions.
So
this
is
straight
out
of
google
earth.
This
is
a
good
image
in
the
fall
of
2019..
This
is
the.
F
A
A
A
So
but
we'll
talk
through
where
things
are
okay,
so
here's
the
first
one
I'll
start
right
up
here.
You
see
the
amphitheater
right,
that
is
one
tree
being
removed
and
it's
just
to
create
an
accessible
path
to
the
individual,
where
the
amphitheater
sits
was
put
mostly
to
be
close
to
the
school,
but
also
because
it's
a
clear,
open
land
right
now
and
not
as
much
would
have
been
removed.
As
you
can
see,
it's
in
a
sort
of
open
space
that
exists
already.
A
D
B
D
A
A
Then
we
look
at
this
side
and
that's
a
place.
We
can
have
a
conversation.
These
trees
right
here
on
this
edge
hold
on
right
there.
These
three
trees
are
currently
right
up
against
the
fence.
The
agreement
was
originally.
We
were
going
to
replace
the
whole
fence,
because
it's
a
little
on
the
sadder
side
and
usually
whenever
we
do
a
park
upgrade,
we
do
put
in
a
new
fence
that
will
last
for
a
long
time.
A
A
B
A
A
Health,
that's
not
ada
compliance,
but
not
this
other
arbitrary.
A
D
A
Have
an
opportunity
to
decide
to
leave
them.
The
key
thing
is:
we
should
not
pull
the
gate
up
and
replace
it,
because
it
will
probably
kill
the
trees
to
take
it
out
and
put
it
in.
But,
finally,
those
three
trees
are
also
located,
not
so
much
up
against
the
fence,
but
up
against
the
sidewalk
right
away.
That
you
say
is
governed
by
a
city
ordinance
about.
C
A
A
A
A
Those
are
the
most
complex,
we'll
come
back
to
those
in
a
second,
at
least
one
on
the
right
there
on
the
near
defense,
yep
one
of
those.
Yes,
I
heard
that
right,
so
I
think
the
reality
is
if
we,
if
we
can.
B
E
B
An
option
if
we
could
get
to
the
next
couple
slides
we've
identified
derek,
not
just
those
three
but
a
few
other
areas
and
what
it
would
take
to
save
those
and
that's
what
we
wanted
to
present
to
you
guys
tonight.
But
if
we
need
to
be
able
to
get
to
those
slides
to
show
that.
So
if
we
could
do
that,
that
would
be
really
helpful
for
you
guys
to
know.
That's
coming.
B
G
C
C
C
A
A
There
are
two
layers
of
things
going
on
the
playground.
One
is
accessibility
which
we
have
to
do.
We
can
go
back
to
the
side,
so
you
can
see
it.
The
second.
A
Pad
you're
putting
in
the
splash
pad
doing
the
work
to
put
in
the
splash
pad
does
necessitate
putting
in
water,
and
that
is
one
of
the
issues
related
to
this.
So
it
is
both
accessibility
and
integrating
water
for
the
splash
pad
right,
but
if
you
flow
it
to
the
splash
pad,
you
actually
have
to
put
in
other
sets
of
equipment
to
make
that
work.
So
that's
part
of
why
that's
digging
up
both
to
make
the
path
accessible
and
to
install
the
equipment
for
the
flashback.
C
C
A
Here's
a
big
challenge
on
replanting
when
the
tree
is
that
old.
If
you
try
to
move
it
to
another
location
with,
if
its
roots
are
like
serious,
you
often
end
up
in
that
process
cutting
some
of
the
roots.
You
don't
it's
almost
impossible
with
a
big
tree
to
get
all
of
those
roots
really
out
of
the
ground.
You.
A
So
the
truth
of
it
is
we
don't
control,
we
don't
control
dcr
and
people
asked
us
to
do
this
for
the
little
kids.
So
I'm
not
saying
I
don't
hear
you
at
most
parks.
We
are
adding,
and
so
this
is
where
there's
also
like,
like
a
thing
where
I
want
to
get
people's
agreement,
because
at
most
parts
people
are
adding
water
features.
A
C
A
C
A
A
D
A
A
Can't
I'm
just
keeping
it
real
with
you.
I
can't
tell
you
something
that
I
don't
know
it
would
help.
If
you
would
see
we
do
what
I'm
saying
we
do
have
a
tree
inventory.
I
didn't
bring
it
with
me,
hey
and
two.
I
can't
pull
it
up
by
memory.
If
you
say,
if
you
pointed
at
a
purple
part
three
I
can't
say
what's
important:
is
that
because
of
the
colors
and
the
season.
A
A
A
What
I'm
saying
is
I'm
sure
that
you
could
look
at
the
list
of
what
we're
putting
in
we
have.
I
can
say
this:
we
have
paid
attention
about
how
to
replace
some
of
the
industries.
We
are
also
paying
attention
to,
for
instance,
we're
not
putting
in
any
more
ashes
right
now,
because
ashes
are
not
in
good.
D
A
C
A
So
usually,
okay,
when
you
ask,
I
mean
I
think,
we've
admitted
that
in
the
beginning
we've
heard
from
the
beginning
that
there's
safety
concerns
people
have
asked
us
to
get
the
get
the
police
involved.
I
don't
I
don't
speak
for
the
police.
I
can't
do
anything
for
what
they
do
or
don't
do
in
some
instances.
As
an
example
on
the
dale
street
side,
we
heard
a
lot
of
issues
around
the
use
of
the
fields.
People
sense
that
it
made
them
feel
not
safe
about
what's
going
on
the
power.
A
So
a
lot
of
those
tree
trees
on
the
end,
most
of
which
are
volunteers
like
trees
that
weren't
actually
planted,
but
it
was
fresh,
which
is,
you
know,
damn
good.
They
are
under
12
inches
and
right
now,
because
they're
so
bushy,
they
do
hide
the
view.
So
we
have,
we
have
proposed
taking
out
those
and
planting.
A
A
A
C
A
But
I
also
don't
want
to
like
go
into
a
conversation
about
salem,
but
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
we're
doing
in
roxbury.
So
I
don't
disagree
and
like
we
can
talk
about
it.
I
think
what
I'm
saying
is
we
looked
at
each
of
these
decisions
and
tried
to
match
them
up
so
wesson
and
samson
did
give
us
like
a
proposal,
but
it
like-
and
I've
now
spent
more
time
looking
at
this,
this
tree
route
than
ever
before,
right.
E
A
B
A
A
A
A
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
agree-
and
I
think
we
can
look
at
sprucing
it
up,
I
think
I
want
to
make
sure
we
agree
that
it's
okay
to
leave
that
give
it
some
sort
of
cosmetic
look
but
recognize
that
we're
not
going
to
move
it
because
moving
it
could
create
disruption
and
would
affect
the
health
of
the
trees.
So
that's
that's
just
three
trees.
So
that's
one
area,
it's
three
fleas
on
a
bigger
dog
and
the
dog
needs
different.
Okay
and
I
think
there's
another
conversation.
C
A
To
avoid
in
the
interest
of
contractors,
you
know,
I
think
I
was
looking
at
big
picture.
Slides
and
jose
said:
could
we
dig
in?
I
was
just
asked
20
minutes
ago.
Can
you
go
into
the
specifics
of
the
pieces
and
then
I
just
complied
and
now
you're
saying
I
don't
want
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
big
picture,
I'm
trying.
We
were
looking
at
that,
let's.
A
C
A
C
A
G
F
C
F
G
D
A
A
C
A
C
A
A
A
Other
challenge
is,
I'm
so
glad
that
people
are
weighing
in.
There
were
also
600
people
that
engaged
in
the
community
process.
Many
of
them
who
live
in
the
neighborhood
a
good
chunk
of
them,
not
here
that.
I'm
also
worried
that
the
moment
we
pull
that
I
get
calls
from
another
people,
people
who
say
I
came
to
that
meeting.
I
looked
at
that
stuff
I
advocated
for
it
you
told
me
we
were
gonna,
get
it
and
now
it's
gone.
D
A
Is
in
love
with
the
process.
F
C
A
A
What
I'm
also
challenged
is
given
that
we
also
awarded
a
contract
and
in
those
contracts,
and
it's
just
real-
there
are
penalties
that
we
pay
every
time
we
delay
something
so
just
to
get
to.
Today
I
spent
thirty
two
thousand
dollars
that
I
do
not
have
in
the
budget.
I'm
gonna
find
it.
I'm
gonna
figure
it
out,
but.
A
F
G
But
if
there
is
a
process,
a
manageable,
a
time,
sensitive
minded
process
and
engagement
of
the
city,
the
contractor
some
of
the
folks
in
this
room.
G
E
A
G
A
Rescheduling
a
date
before
we
have
this
this
conversation
again,
that's
that's
not
exactly
how
it
works.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
when
we
met,
I
was
very
clear
that
we
needed
to
meet
soon
and
people
created
a
bunch
of
questions.
I
took
those
questions
we
started
trying
to
get
them
some
of
that's
in
this
presentation.
We
haven't
even
gotten
to
those
parts
because
there's
a
whole
piece
in
here
about
where
we
can
put
up
potential
retaining
walls.
I
think
retaining
walls
are
dicey,
but
you
asked
me
to
look
into
that
and
we
did.
E
A
I
can't
meet
you
in
that
hill
because
I
can't
even
get
it
right,
so
I
think
that
so
I
think
what
I'm
saying
is
there
were
questions
asked
and
we
said
we
didn't
want
to
move
it
right
away
and
have
only
the
people
who
were
there
know
about
it,
but
not
other
people
who
were
not
there.
So
we
said.
C
D
D
A
A
The
financial
implications
and
I'm
not
saying
that
you
can't
say
that
I
should
now,
but
I
want
to
be
really
clear.
I
didn't
go
back
on
my
word.
I
think
I
was
really
clear
in
that
meeting,
because
I
knew
then
that
if
you
stop
construction
altogether,
you
will
pay
not
just
for
the
trees
right,
because
they
all
fit
together,
trees
that
are
supposed
to
come
down
where
a
path
is
supposed
to
put
in
and
the
path
people
are
supposed
to
come
three
days
after
the
tree
people.
A
B
D
A
Since
we've
had
a
conversation
about
trust,
I
did
feel
like
on
this
note.
I
was
really
clear
that
I
would
push
it
back
for
us
to
have
one
conversation,
but
that
that
was
the
limit
of
what
I
could
do.
If
I
make
a
bigger
decision
and
I'll
have
to
have
some
conversation
with
the
mayor,
we
are
talking
about.
A
B
A
This
is
a
hunter,
no
all
of
the
park,
because,
right
now
what
we've
done?
It's
all
started
like
we
pulled
up,
for
instance,
the
field,
so
that
right
now,
for
instance,
we've
got
heavy
equipment
going
over
the
field.
It's
destructive
right.
Yes,
once
you
pull
in
as
an
example,
why
we,
why
some
of
the
trees
that
were
borderline
we
were
taking
them
down
because
we
were
like
if
they
die
two
years
from
now,
we
won't
have.
A
We
do
not
want
to
bring
the
same
equipment
back
in
to
take
them
down
amongst
them,
because
only
two
years
from
now,
in
theory,
the
park
is
beautiful
and
gleaming.
I
don't
want
to
run
a
backhoe
over
the
park
and
cause
damage
to
it.
So
that's
that
is
some
of
the
tension
of
like.
If
things
were
in
questionable
health,
you're
right,
some
things
that
aren't
questionable
can
live,
but
if
they
don't
live,
how
will
I
take
them
down
later.
A
A
D
A
A
A
Because
I
don't
like
the
phrase,
time
is
money,
but
in
this
reality
time
the
more
times
the
more
money
I'm
talking
about
right.
I
know,
but
I
don't
know
what
anyway
hold
on
hold
on
hold
on.
A
A
Yes,
wait.
Sorry,
you
were
standing
up
for
a
while
and
then
we'll
come
up
here,
because
he
was
behind
you
for
quite
a
while
yeah
hard
work
sometimes
nobody's
mentioning
kobe's
in
the
process
in
terms
of
not
ability
to
come
out.
We
do
some
parts
of
this
about
600
people.
A
A
A
Right,
so
this
part
of
the
part
is
the
question
of
what
to
make
accessible.
I
think
I
said
at
that
meeting
and
I
I
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
said
all
of
the
rest
of
the
pieces
are
not
up
for
discussion.
I
think
I
said
that
really
clearly,
because
I
don't
have.
I
don't
have
an
option
on
these
parts
right.
The
only
part
that
we
could
leave
completely
untouched
is
honeysucklehill
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
and
if
we
leave
it
untouched,
it
is
not
ada
accessible.
A
D
A
A
multi-faceted
approach
to
this
this
and
spiritual
part
of
our
community,
okay,
and
with
the
trees
and
with
the
ballpark
and
with
the
tennis
courts
or
whatever,
like
that.
The
thing
about
it
is
that
one
person
is
early
in
the
conversation
about
engagement.
Well,
you
can
have
any
kind
of
definition
go
website.
A
But
there's
something
different
about
definition
and
execution
of
what
I
see
from
an
outside
observer
is
that
the
engagement
is
not
there.
It's
been
a
long
process,
it's
been
like
an
8.8
million
dollar
process.
It's
been
a
process
where
the
community
has
been
engaged,
but
somewhere
along
that
line,
the
community
was
not
engaged.
So
for
you
to
come
here
and
to
get
consensus,
and
we
know
now
you're
saying
we
understand
it
even
before
that
there
are
some
constraints
and
restraints
on
you.
E
A
Contracts
were
already
fine
and
whatever
it
might
be,
but
what
the
imam
said
is
that
sometimes
you
gotta
sacrifice
that
worldly
view,
because
you
need
the
community
to
be
involved
and
engaged.
Otherwise,
when
you
go
through,
it's
not
gonna,
be
a
community
engagement
problem.
I
think
we
understand
that
city
hall
has
made
plans
and
things
that
it's
done
it
before
we've
seen
gentrification
before
and
us
moved
out
of
our
of
our
communities
right.
C
A
Derek
says
you
will
probably
find
more
savings
and
that
we
come
together
we're
talking
together.
You
will
probably
find
more
savings
and
more
assets
and
more
pluses
for
the
city
of
boston
and
the
mayor
and
city
hall
that
would
attribute
would
contribute
much
more
than
the
money
that
is
saved.
Well,
okay,
so
so
I
do
want
to
have
just
one
land.
B
A
Five
people
in
this
room
most
of
the
people
in
the
conversation
now
are
not
the
same
as
the
people
in
the
conversation
before,
and
so
there
is
a
tension
where
I'm
asking
myself.
If
I
respond
to
this
group
of
people,
how
does
that?
How
is
that
received
by
the
previous
group
of
people
who
who
said
some
different.
D
A
A
B
G
A
That
was
raised
in
the
meeting
at
the
very
last
meeting.
As
you
recall,
there
were
folks
who
lived
close
by
who
were
pissed
at
that
meeting,
so
I
probably
shouldn't
use
that
term,
but
just
keep
an
eye
out
for
people
that
they
were
like.
Who
are
all
these
people
that
just
showed
up
to
the
meeting
so.
A
A
G
G
G
No
okay:
we
had
specific
ideas
as
to
how
to
produce
the
part,
because
many
of
us
use
the
part
on
a
daily
basis.
In
fact,
my
neighbors
most
of
our
neighborhoods
between
number
four
homework
and
poor
ask
me
to
come
here
tonight
to
represent
them.
Why
they're,
working
and
so
forth.
But
what
I'm
trying
to
say
here
is
that,
from
the
initial
design
stage,
all
the
way
to
contracting
construction
consultant,
the
community
has
been
ignored,
correct,
okay,
I
insisted
and
specific
folks.
You
know,
department
officials
who
are
here.
G
I
try
to
love
the
city
very
early
in
the
process,
saying
if
you
miss
these
steps,
it
will
be
more
costly
down
the
road,
because
people
here
this
community
will
demand
engagement
and
ultimately
ownership
of
the
project.
Why?
Because
you
will
be
gone,
they
will
be
left
to
leave
with
the
project
for
the
consequences
of
your
decision.
A
A
C
A
I
did
not
know
these
things
were
happening,
and
so
I
think
that
the
chief
has
been
doing
a
wonderful
job
as
soon
as
she
realized
the
communications
wasn't
happening
or
happening.
She
has
been
proactive
about
communicating
with
our
office,
and
I
appreciate
you
for
that.
I
know
this
process
is
not
easy
and
being
a
seat
right
now
and
trying
to
mediate
and
come
to
a
problem.
A
A
resolution
is
not
easy
right,
so
I
just
want
to
say
the
spirit
of,
and
I
think
all
of
the
allies
people
that
came
from
the
outside.
All
of
your
letters
that
I
received.
I
thank
you
so
much
for
advocating,
on
behalf
of
our
trees,
our
community
and
in
the
spirit
of
historical
historically
how
racist
systems
in
from
local
government
have
been
in
terms
of
interacting
with
community.
A
I
know
that
there's
a
distrust
in
this
process
and
how
we
interact
with
our
communities
and
how
they've
excluded
us
or
not,
including
us
right.
So
I
look
forward
to
representing
you.
This
is
not
about
not
about
me
but
about
us
today,
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
to
talking
with
you
to
meeting
with
you
and
I
think
chief
mariama
is
an
ally
and
I
think
that
we
can
get
together
and
slow
down
the
process
just
a
little
bit
not
to
cost
too
much
money.
Obviously,
we.
A
We
all
want
to
save
money,
but
I
think
in
the
interest
of
you
know,
how
do
we
get
there
that
we
extend
a
little
bit
of
patience
and
grace
and
love
and
forgiveness
to
one
another
so
that
we
can
get
there
in
a
process
that
we
can
actually
get
to
something
practical?
So.
A
To
working
with
you,
I
work
for
you
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you.
I
look
forward
to
creating
that
space
and
I
think
that
city
departments
are
doing
now
that
we're
connecting.
We
are
going
to
do
everything
together
to
include
the
community
and
I'm
here
for
you.
So
I
hear
you
I'm
taking
notes,
I'm
in
the
back.
I'm
sitting
down,
I'm
taking
notes
and
hearing
loud
and
clear
my
office
is
open.
I
look
forward
to
more
to
working
with
you
and
for
you.
Thank
you.
D
A
B
B
A
Here's
what
I
want
to
move,
what
I
need
to
be
clear
about
is
what
are
we
actually
talking
about?
I
know
that
I
hear
what
people
are
saying
big
picture.
I
want
to
get
slightly
tangible
on
what
we
are
looking
at.
In
terms
of
the
conversations
I
want
to
be
honest
about
what
I
can
do
and
I
want
to
be
honest
about
what
I
can't
do.
I
want
to
be
real,
but
I
do
not
have
unlimited
resources
right.
I
I
heard.
D
A
That
makes
that
big
that
bids
out
heartland
is
run
by
the
state.
I
don't
have
personally
the
freedom
to
change
that
as
of
right
now,
right
like
I'm,
not
it's.
A
Saying
I
don't
hear
you
I'm
telling
you
what
what
power
I
do
have
and
what
power
I
don't
have
I'm
just
keeping
it
real
about
that.
So
I
think
that
the
question
is:
what
is
the
path
forward
that
we
are
asking
so
that
I
can
respond
to
that
and
we
can
figure
out
where
that
goes?
Okay,
so
you
have
a
recommendation.
A
We
have
another
proposal.
Okay,
so
let's
derek
will
put
a
proposal
forward.
We'll
go
to
the
amount
of
you.
You
have
a
proposal.
Maybe
those
two
will
come
together,
we'll
hear
one
more
proposal
and
we'll
try
to
get
to
a
clarity
about
next
step.
Are
you
also
raising
your
hand
a
bit
for
a
proposal?
Okay,
anybody
else
that
wants
it.
So
here's.
A
D
A
A
G
A
D
G
A
D
C
A
From
a
proposal
that
a
smaller
group
of
folks
that
are
part
of
the
stewards
and
friends
and
then
my
assumption
is
that
most
of
them
live
in
the
neighborhood.
Yes,
okay!
So
what?
If
we
said?
Five
members
of
the
stewards,
five
members
of
the
parks
department,
sit
down
together.
Look
at
things
in
detail,
try
to
come
up
with.
A
That
works,
sit
down
and
look
in
detail.
A
A
A
A
D
A
A
F
C
C
C
A
A
B
A
C
C
F
A
G
A
Than
anything
else
excuse
my
life
and
stop
standing.
So
I
say
that
to
say,
like
the
more.
G
G
A
A
A
A
B
A
And
that's
not
what
I
agreed
to
do
when
I
agreed
to
the
meeting,
because
I
was
trying
to
balance
both
keeping
the
work
going
in
the
other
areas
which
we
all
agreed
to
and
having
a
conversation
about
this
one
space.
I
came
back
with
other
things
that
were
not
that
I
could
have.
You
know
kept
going
based
on
what
I
said,
but
like.
A
B
A
A
C
F
A
To
get
to
that
meeting
in
order
to
come
back
with
a
holistic
plan,
that's
the
bottom
line
tomorrow,
all
right,
so
you
all
can
be.
I
will
have
to
be
on
facetime,
because
I
can't
actually
get
around
the
park.
A
Mean
that's
not
how
I
do
either
so
here's
what
I'll
say
a
meeting
can
happen
tomorrow.
I
don't
know
if
it
can
be
out
here.
I
don't
know
what
his
depth
is,
because
there's
been
questions
that
some
of
them
might
be.
I
don't
think
we
can
have
by
tomorrow
afternoon,
but
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
a
call
tomorrow,
at
least
a
call
to
figure
out
how
to
map
out
this
process.
We
have
got.
We.