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From YouTube: Ringer Park Design Meeting #2 - 1/26/2021
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Park Design Meeting #2
Date: 1/26/2021
A
Now
you
got
it
all
right.
Thank
you.
So,
thanks
for
coming,
my
name
is
kathy
baker,
eclipse
I'm
a
landscape,
architect
and
project
manager
in
the
boston
parks
and
recreation
department.
I
want
to
make
sure
you
all
know
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded.
We're
going
to
be
posting
the
recording
on
the
project
website
later
in
the
week,
so
you'll
be
able
to
share
it
with
any
friends
who
are
unable
to
make
it
to
this
meeting
tonight.
A
I
have
to
say
I'm
so
impressed
with
the
enthusiasm
and
feedback
that
we've
received
from
the
community
and
your
patience.
While
we
found
a
suitable
date
for
this
meeting,
we
have
joked
that
the
one
thing
we
were
able
to
take
off
was
that
take
off.
Our
list
was
trying
to
find
a
snow
date
for
this.
So
the
snow
is
not
an
issue
for
our
ability
to
move
forward
with
this
meeting.
So
that's
at
least
a
positive.
A
A
This
meeting
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different
from
a
typical
community
meeting
that
we
had
in
person.
It
will
be
an
online
presentation
and
a
discussion
hosted
by
the
parks
department
and
the
park
design
team
from
kyle's
landscape
architecture.
We
want
to
thank
you
for
trying
this
new
format
and
we
certainly
miss
seeing
everyone's
faces,
this
zoom
style
webinar.
Can
we
move
to
the
next.
A
Slide
this:
oh
I'm
back
yep,
this
zoom
style
webinar
has
a
couple
of
ways
to
interact.
You
can
raise
your
hands.
There
should
be
a
down
at
the
bottom
of
your
menu,
there's
a
raised
hand
icon.
A
So
you
can
raise
your
hand
during
the
q
a
and
we'll
call
on
you
roughly
in
order,
if
you're
joining
by
phone,
which
doesn't
look
like
we
have
anybody
joining
by
phone
right
now.
But
if
people
join
us
via
phone,
I'm
going
to
try
to
prioritize
them
over
in-person
people,
you
can
also
type
your
questions
and
answers
in
the
q,
a
box
and
I'll
go
through
those
and
I'll
read
those
aloud,
and
then
we
can
respond
to
those
as
we
come
to
them.
A
A
We,
unfortunately
don't
have
any
interpretation
tonight,
but
maybe
in
future
presentations.
A
So
today
we're
going
to
reacquaint
you
with
a
project
team,
give
a
brief
recap
of
the
funding
goals
and,
and
the
last
meeting
we'll
talk
about
the
great
data
we
gathered
from
the
survey
and
then
dig
into
the
site
design
of
ringer
park.
We'll
open
up
for
a
discussion
about
all
of
that
information
and
there's
quite
a
bit
and
then
we'll
wrap
up
with
next
steps.
A
I
want
to
introduce
the
project
team
to
you.
My
contact
info
is
as
kathy.baker
dash
eclipse,
boston.gov
or
617-961-3058.
I
also
want
to
introduce
christine
brandeo
who's,
the
outreach
coordinator.
She
coordinates,
ongoing,
volunteer
efforts
in
the
parks,
coordinates
park
programs
and
as
a
point
of
contact
for
people
long
after
the
park.
Improvements
are
over
so
she's
a
great
resource
for
some
of
those
longer
term
issues
in
the
park.
A
I
also
want
to
introduce
kyle,
zick
and
danielle
desolates
from
kyle's
at
landscape
architecture
they're
the
design
team
that
are
going
to
be
walking
through
the
design
possibilities
for
this
site
check
to
see
whether
there
are
any.
I
also
want
to
just
point
out
connor
newman
from
the
office
of
neighborhood
services.
He
doesn't
look
like
he's
in
the
audience
today,
but
he's
a
great
resource
for
some
of
the
broader
neighborhood
issues
and
does
not
look
like
there
are
any
elected
officials.
A
But
if,
if
you
are
there
and
you'd
like
to
to
say
a
word,
please
raise
your
hand,
use
the
raise
icon.
I
kind
of
use
the
raise
hand
icon
and
I
can
unmute
you.
A
A
You
thank
you
so
when,
when
she's
able
to
join,
we
can
we
can
allow
her
some
time
to
say
a
few
words.
The
city
of
boston
priorities,
we're
incorporating
a
lot
of
different
factors:
expanding
walkable
access
to
parks
and
throughout
the
city.
Boston
was
the
first
city
on
the
east
coast
to
have
a
park
within
a
10-minute
walk
of
every
resident.
A
We
go
to
the
next
okay,
so
tonight's,
the
second
meeting
for
the
design
work
for
the
comprehensive
plan
we
anticipate
engaging
with
the
community
throughout
the
winter.
While
we
finalize
the
comprehensive
plan
in
the
spring,
the
funding
for
the
design
work
is
coming
from
the
city
of
boston,
capital
funding
and
some
recent
developments
in
the
neighborhood.
A
We
do
not
have
funding
for
the
future
construction
yet,
but
are
using
this
phase
of
work
to
identify
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done.
Prioritize
those
items
and
estimate
how
much
of
the
those
improvements
will
cost.
When
we're
ready
to
implement
those
projects,
we
will
again
be
re-engaging
with
the
community
and
spec
discussing
those
specific
plans
with
with
the
community.
A
Ringer
park
has
remade
a
constant
presence
in
allston,
while
a
lot
of
changes
have
occurred
around
it.
Boston
parks
wants
ringer
park
to
keep
up
with
the
neighborhood.
The
work
we're
here
to
discuss
today
is
to
develop
a
long-term
plan
for
the
park
and
prioritizes
short-term
improvements
to
get
us
to
this
vision.
A
Past
improvement
projects
have
studied
individual
park
elements,
but
have
lacked
the
connections
between
those
park
elements
to
create
the
whole.
This
has
resulted
in
some
areas
like
the
playgrounds
and
athletic
facilities
being
regularly
updated,
while
others
lacking
investments
over
a
longer
period
of
time.
We're
going
to
talk
about
a
lot
of
exciting
ideas
tonight,
but
there's
not
a
timeline
for
implementation.
Yet
I'm
going
to
turn
over
the
slides
to
kyle
and
danielle
to
talk
about
the
details
of
the
park,
starting
with
what
we
heard
from
at
the
last
meeting.
E
Thank
you
kathy,
so
thanks
everyone
for
joining
us
tonight.
Hopefully
many
of
you
were
able
to
join
us
at
the
first
community
meeting
that
we
had.
I'm
gonna
run
through
what
we
heard
a
little
bit
of
what
we
heard
at
that
meeting,
and
also
to
summarize
the
the
results
from
the
online
survey
that
we
had.
E
So
when
we
talked
last,
we
heard
these
are
very
quick
summaries,
which
I
think
very
often
we
find
is
reflected
in
the
same
information,
the
same
initiatives
and
vision
from
the
community
in
the
survey
so
we'll
go
through.
All
of
that,
we
did
hear
pretty
strongly
that
there
was
a
significant
support
for
a
fenced-in
dog
park,
separate
potentially
separate
from
the
ball
field.
That's
there
now
that
the
way
it's
being
used,
we
heard
a
lot
about
trash
and
sight
and
the
maintenance
and
the
levels
of.
E
We
also
heard
about
the
potential
idea
of
converting
the
little
league
ball
field
into
a
multi-use
field
that
can
be
used
by
a
wider
range
of
people,
certainly
an
update
for
the
playground
area.
That's
just
beyond
this
image
that
we
can
see
here,
safety
and
other
improvements
to
the
urban
wild
area,
the
wooded
area
in
the
park,
and
then
there
was
some
discussion
about
the
sports
court
lighting.
That's
on
site
now
how
that
is
using
whether
or
not
it
could
be
re-implemented
and
then
the
drainage
issues
throughout
the
site.
E
Excuse
me
so
after
the
last
meeting,
which
was
mid-october,
we
had
a
survey
run
for
a
little
over
three
weeks
and
we
had
a
total
19
questions
and
we
had
156
responses.
So
that's
great.
That
gives
us
a
lot
of
really
good
feedback
that
helps
us
with
the
design
process
and,
as
I
said
more
often
than
not
as
this
did
what
we
heard
from
the
survey
kind
of
backs
up
a
lot
of
what
we
heard
from
the
original
community
meeting
that
we
just
addressed.
E
So
I'm
just
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
19
of
those
questions,
because
some
are
a
little
iterative,
but
we
do
that
on
purpose,
but
I'm
going
to
a
couple
of
these.
So
one
of
the
what
we
talked
about
here,
the
first
few
questions
you
just
kind
of
get
a
sense
of
where
and
how
you
use
the
park
and
when
you
use
the
park,
so
one
of
the
questions
was
when
what
time
of
year
do
you
use
the
park
most?
E
As
you
can
see
here,
79
percent
of
our
respondents
said
they
use
it
all
four
seasons.
No
one
said
they
come
strictly
in
the
winter,
probably
not
a
surprise,
and
this
fairly
significant
dispersal
throughout
the
rest
of
the
year.
E
We
asked,
if
you
have
a
favorite
time
of
day,
to
visit
and
early
kind
of
kind
of
spread
throughout
the
day,
but,
as
you
can
see,
kind
of
mid
afternoon,
3
p.m,
5,
5
p.m,
or
later
we're
pretty
popular,
as
is
before
9
am
with
work
hours
and
school
hours.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
We
did
also
ask
a
couple
other
things:
we
one
of
the
key
questions
that
we
asked
you
was
which
entrances
you
visited
park
from
which
we
use
most
often
and
again,
not
a
surprise.
E
Over
50
50
of
people
said
that
they
either
use
the
austin
street
entrance
or
the
gordon
street
entrance,
so
those
are
the
two
main
entrances,
so
that
makes
some
sense
and
we
asked
about
issues
with
those
those
entrances
and
we
heard
pretty
reliably
that
the
trash
litter
at
the
site,
accessibility
for
everybody
and
lighting-
were
some
some
some
of
the
issues
at
this
at
those
entrances
this
site.
E
So
this,
where
we
have
direct
data,
where
we
asked
a
very
specific
question,
like
the
last
one
we'll
represent
in
graphs,
we
had
a
lot
of
open-ended
questions,
because
that
really
allows
you
to
provide
any
kind
of
information
or
the
strength
of
what
you
feel
most
strongly
needs
to
happen
or
not
happen
at
the
park.
So
these
are
going
to
be
represented
like
this,
which
is
a
word
cloud,
so
the
bigger
the
image
or
the
bigger
the
word
size,
the
more
we
heard
it
in
your
feedback.
E
So
one
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
we
asked
is
kind
of
a
couple
different
ways,
a
couple
different
questions,
so
we
asked
what
changes
would
you
like
to
see
at
ringer
park?
We
also
asked,
as
the
next
question,
what
was
the
most
important
change
very
reliably.
The
top
three
answers
for
both
of
these
questions
as
write-ins
were
more
trash
cans
or
a
better
maintenance,
more
trash
cans
or
trash
cans
emptied
more
often
number
two
to
both
questions
was
a
dedicated
area
for
dogs
and
number
three
was
lighting
in
the
park.
E
We
did
hear
other
other
responses,
such
as
talking
about
drainage
and
walkways
trail
improvements
and
core
lighting
here,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
these
are
some
of
the
words
that
came
up
most
often
in
your
responses.
E
I'm
going
to
the
next
slide.
Please
thanks.
So
we
also
asked
what
should
not
change
about
the
park
so
again,
as
you
can
see,
the
biggest
letter
biggest
words
here
are
trees,
courts,
trees
and
quartz.
So
we
heard
that
the
urban
wild
was
extremely
was
very
popular
and
very
well
loved.
We
heard
you
know
that
the
overall
tree
canopy
in
the
park
was
really
significant
and
a
key
element
to
the
park.
You
know
of
itself
and
its
character.
E
There
was
also
comments
about
the
green
space
and
the
amount
of
open
space
on
site,
but
also
the
basketball
courts
and
the
tennis
courts.
Those
were
key
items
that
you
didn't
all
did
not
want
to
change
the
the
kind
of
next
level
was.
There
was
a
lot
of
comments
about
the
diversity
of
the
spaces,
the
variety
of
both
active
and
passive
spaces
and
uses
in
the
park.
E
One
of
the
other
questions
we
asked
that's
not
represented
here
was:
are
there
sorry
the
ways
ways
in
which
you
think
that
this
park
could
better
benefit
the
community
and
the
resounding
answer
on
this?
One
was
more
community-based
activities,
whether
it's
movies
markets,
festivals,
shows
any
of
those
items
that
were
mentioned:
pet
training
classes,
but
just
the
fact
that
more
programming
is
a
is
a
pretty
strong
desire
for
the
community.
Now
that
is
important
to
us,
not
working
as
designers
as
the
landscape,
architects
and
design
team.
E
We're
not
going
to
program
those
activities,
but
it
helps
us
determine
what
kind
of
spaces
to
create
and
to
provide
in
the
park
in
its
next
phase
of
design.
E
Should
be
oh,
we
asked
about
how
for
which
activities
this
should
come
up
in
a
second
there
we
go,
which
activities
do
you
and
your
and
or
your
family
typically
come
to
ringer
park?
So
this
is
one
of
those
you
could
respond.
Select
all
that
applied
walking
running
was
absolutely
the
number
one
over
six,
almost
65
percent
of
the
communities
that
they
come
here
to
walk
or
run
just
relaxing
and
hanging
out
sunset
viewing
reading
that
was
all,
but
also
about
60.
E
A
lot
of
people
did
say
they
just
passed
through.
This
is
a
connector
or
on
their
commute
to
some
of
the
transit
over
57
of
the
community.
Responded
that
way.
E
A
lot
of
people
said
they
use
it
for
the
trail
so
again
kind
of
supports
the
walking
and
running
and
also
dog
walking,
so
those
kind
of
all
go
hand
in
hand,
and
then
they
also
also
responded
over
30
said
you
come
just
to
play
in
open
space,
just
to
have
some
green
area,
some
lawn
air
that
you
can
just
run
around
and
or
play
ball
things
that
kind
of
thing.
E
What
I
did
think
was
particularly
interesting
is
how
far
down
this
chart,
the
playground
comes
up,
so
only
18
out
of
135
responses
that
we
got
so
they
come
to
this.
They
got
this
park,
particularly
for
the
playground.
So
that's
pretty
telling
for
us
as
well.
Excuse
me
so
the
next
slide
and
the
last
couple
ones.
So
again
we
did
ask
activities,
programs
amenities.
What
kinds
of
things
would
you
like
to
see?
E
More
of
and
again,
if
it's
programs,
that's
not
something
that
directly
directly
impacts
the
design
but
amenities,
it
might
so
again
the
overwhelming
response
top
few
answers.
The
number
one
response
actually
we
got
was
adult
fitness
equipment
which,
when
we've
been
in
the
park,
we've
seen
adults
using
the
playground
equipment
when
children
aren't
there.
So
that's
something
that
if
we
can
provide
both
of
those
elements
in
the
park
that
we
will
look
at
doing,
but
again
that's
so
that
was
the
number
one
response,
but
that
only
received
10
out
of
100
responses.
E
So
it's
10
responded
that
way.
The
next
couple
responses
were
more
tables
and
chairs
picnic
spaces
benches
also
dedicated
off
each
dog
area
was
pretty
high
up
drinking
fountain
or
bottle
filling
station.
Community
garden
was
on
the
list
and
there's
a
number
of
other
things:
barbecues
potential
for
soccer,
maintaining
the
tennis,
a
number
of
different
elements
that
could
be
included
and
then
the
last
two
I
think
we're
gonna
look
at
closely
here.
Were
the
questions
specific
to?
E
Oh,
no,
I'm
sorry
couple
more
two
for
playground
and
then
a
couple
on
the
urban
wilds.
So
we
did
ask
what
must-haves
do
you
have
for
the
playground,
and
these
are
usually
pretty
reliable
responses,
but
we
always
want
to
ask
google
if
we're
not
thinking
the
right
way
or
worth
want
to
make
sure
we're
designing
it
for
your
community.
So
swings,
no
surprise
always
comes
pretty
high
on
the
list.
So
spring
swings
was
the
number
one
answer:
climbing
structures
and
then
slides
on
down.
E
What
was
pretty
high
in
the
list
also
was
tables
and
chairs.
So,
if
you're
up
there
and
you
want
to
stop
and
have
a
snack
or
somewhere
else
to
sit
and
relax,
while
kids
are
playing
we'll
look
at
accommodating
those
type
of
facilities
in
the
playground
also,
we
did
also
ask
a
question
about
the
playground.
E
That
was
what
style
of
playground
you
might
want
to
see
and
50
about.
55
percent
of
respondents
said
they
would
prefer
a
nature
style
playground.
So
that's
also
something
we'll
take
into
account.
E
E
We
asked
how
much
how
often
you
all
use
this
this
area,
60
of
the
respondents,
said
that
they
use
it
very
frequently.
A
few
was
about
30
said
yes,
but
pretty
rarely,
and
only
right,
around
11
said
no,
they
never
use
it.
So
that's
helpful
and
then
also
then,
as
a
follow-up
to
the
ask.
E
We
asked
if
you,
if
you
use
it,
what
do
you
like
best
about
the
urban
wilds
and
if
you
don't
use
it,
please
also
tell
us
why
so
kind
of
the
key
responses
here
for
what
was
loved
again
the
big
letters,
the
big
words,
the
number
one
response
was
that
it
provides
an
escape
from
the
city.
It's
a
peaceful
area
has
loads
of
big
trees.
You
have
shade
and
it's
a
big,
beautiful
natural
landscape.
E
So
we
hear
that
loud
and
clear,
which
tells
us
don't
mess
with
it
too
too
much,
but
then
what
you
didn't
like
about
it
was
the
trash
there's
a
lot
of
litter.
We
hear
there's
a
lot
of
broken
glass
up
there
and
then
there
was
a
fair
enough
number
of
responses,
so
they
don't
use
it
simply
because
it
doesn't
feel
safe,
in
particular
as
as
a
woman
or
someone
using
that
area
with
children,
didn't
really
feel
safe,
taking
children
into
that
the
urban
garden.
Sorry,
urban,
wilds
area.
E
So
that's
all
information
that,
in
addition
to
what
we
hear
from
you
all
tonight,
we'll
take
towards
into
the
design
and
some
of
what's
kyle
is
going
to
present
in
some
of
the
early
thoughts
that
we
have
tonight.
C
Thanks
danielle
and
thanks
to
the
community,
because
we
really
appreciate
you're
coming
to
the
first
public
meeting,
some
of
you
came
to
the
drop-in
session
on
site
after
the
first
meeting
and
contributing
so
much
feedback
to
these
surveys,
because
it
really
helps
us
develop
park
designs
that
are
responsive
to
what
you
want
and
the
more
you
tell
us
the
more
we
can
really
craft
this
master
plan,
this
comprehensive
plan
to
be
very
much
a
recipe
of
what
this
community
would
like.
C
So
I'm
going
to
review
some
design
ideas
to
illustrate
your
comments.
You
know
here
are
some
of
your
comments
and
here's
a
design
idea
that
kind
of
thing
and
then
also
your
feedback,
helped
us
start
to
form
some
guiding
principles
for
the
plan,
which
include
accessibility,
improvements,
addressing
safety
concerns,
improving
or
making
maintenance
easier
and
then
place
making
and
we'll
have
the
rest
of
the
presentation
organized
loosely
around
that.
C
So
you
all
know
the
part
fairly
well,
so
we,
but
we
look
at
for
these
slide,
shows
particularly
we
look
at
the
park
from
as
an
aerial
view,
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
you
oriented
and
then
we'll
just
go
over
some
of
the
terminology
we
use
when
talking
about
it.
So
here
is
ringer
park.
The
west
end
house
alston
street.
C
C
The
dashed
blue
are
just
packed
earth
the
dark,
blue
or
asphalt,
and
then
in
the
urban
wild.
We
have
packed
earth
as
well,
and
this
is
important
to
point
out,
because
there
are
some
things
we
need
to
improve
just
from
a
code
standpoint
for
to
update
for
accessibility.
C
Also,
you
told
us
about
drainage
concerns
and
then
all
and
how
we
can
access
certain
elements.
C
C
The
first
from
a
code
standpoint
is
the
concrete
path
that
goes
through
the
park
at
gordon
street
is
not
accessible,
because
it's
too
steep
you
all
remember.
It
goes
up
a
little
hill
right
there,
but
there
is
a
a
worn
path
at
the
lower
elevation
that
actually
would
be
accessible.
So
we
would
formalize
that
path,
remove
the
one
that
goes
on
the
steeper
path
and
then
this
main
spine
would
all
be
accessible.
C
Item
number
two
is
widening
the
path
in
the
section
along
the
courts
and
that's
important
just
from
a
general
usability
standpoint,
but
also
so
we
can
get
maintenance
vehicles
from
one
side
of
the
park
to
the
other,
because
the
parks
maintenance
vehicles
cannot
get
past
the
courts
right
now
and
that's
a
problem
from
a
trash
pickup
or
mowing
the
lawn
or
just
general.
You
know
maintenance,
also
from
a
code
standpoint,
there's
a
walkway
that
leads
up
to
the
playground
that
is
too
steep
according
to
accessibility
guidelines.
C
So
we
can
add
a
swale
or
other
drainage
features
to
help
intercept
some
of
that
and
then
the
primary
path
in
the
urban
wild
that
goes
basically
from
gordon
street
to
allston
street
is
something
that
could
be
formalized
in
the
wood
chip
or
the
earth
path
either
made
with
crushed
stone
or
a
pavement
and
at
the
entrances
where
we
have
cobblestones,
they
would
be
removed
because
they're
not
accessible
either.
So
some
just
very
basic
but
needed
improvements
to
the
walkway
system.
C
And
some
of
those
improvements
have
a
direct
impact
on
how
parks
can
maintain
the
site.
The
black
dashed
line
from
webley
street
comes
in.
They
turn
around
at
that
circle,
the
performance
space
and
they
can
go
toward
allston
street
and
then
up
the
hill,
but
they
really
can't
get
to
other
parts
of
the
park.
So
some
of
these
improvements,
I'm
talking
about,
allow
them
to
get
to
other
parts
of
the
park.
Pick
up.
Trash
mow
do
tree
work,
which
is
important
for
the
overall
care
of
the
park.
C
In
terms
of
vegetation
management,
we
heard
a
lot
of
things
about
different
elements
of
the
park:
one
like
the
urban
wild
preserve
it
enhance
it.
We
love
the
wooded
area,
so
I
mean,
and
what
we're
saying
is
each
one
of
these
boundaries
we're
showing
is
a
different
type
of
vegetation
and
it
requires
different
management.
C
C
So
the
urban
wilds.
More
specifically,
we
want
to
talk
about
some
of
the
concerns,
but
also
some
of
the
recommendations.
We
can
make
there's
a
lot
of
erosion
in
the
urban
wild,
and
some
of
that
is
because
pads
have
been
created
and
worn
that
are
going
straight
up
and
down
the
hill,
which
is
the
place
where
water
wants
to
follow
and
because
it's
going
the
fastest
down
the
most
direct
point.
It
wants
to
erode
the
soil.
C
So
that's
something
we
can
address.
We
also
heard
a
number
of
things
about
concerns
about
safety
and
security.
Something
we
could
consider
is
adding
security
cameras,
and
that
is
more
than
just
in
this
meeting
deciding
that
other
stakeholders
have
to
weigh
in
on
that.
But
that's
something
we
can
look
at.
I've
already
talked
about
maintenance
access
and
improving
that,
because,
with
that,
we
can
improve
litter,
pickup
and
also
just
kind
of
surveillance
and
observing
activities
through
that
area,
and
then
there's
some
very
specific
things
we
can
do
in
terms
of
woodland
management.
C
First,
I
had
mentioned
the
realigning
the
main
spine
to
make
it
accessible
by
doing
that
and
removing
this
path,
we
need
to
extend
the
urban
wild
paths
to
that
new
path.
Pretty
simple:
there
are
some
sections
that
we've
highlighted
here
with
these
green
lines,
where
the
trails
are
really
too
steep
and
they're
really
susceptible
to
erosion
and
they're,
basically
duplicate,
particularly
if
you're
here
at
allston
street,
you
have
two
pads
that
are
right
next
to
each
other.
C
One
of
them
is
not
very
stable,
so
we
could
close
that
not
change
access
but
improve
the
resource,
and
then
this
yellow
line
suggests
that
that
main
path
could
be
something
more
defined,
either
crush
stone
or
a
pavement
to
make
that
accessible,
but
also
something
that
could
be
made
maintained
more
easily
something
we
would
also
do.
If
that
was
crushed
stone
versus
pavement,
we
would
want
to
manage
the
storm
water
uphill
of
that,
so
we
wouldn't
erode
that
path.
C
C
You
can
see
the
main
spine
from
alston
to
gordon
street
here,
there's
a
couple
lights
in
the
woods
and
there's
lights
on
the
west
end
house,
and
there
are
some
other
at
entrances,
also
to
note.
There's
an
emergency
telephone
along
the
main
spine
and
there
are
some
security
cameras
on
the
west
end
house.
C
The
existing
lights
are
generally
these
concrete
poles
that
are
fairly
tall.
Here's
the
emergency
telephone
I
mentioned
there
are
some
additional
lights
that
are
being
added
in
2021,
the
proposed
light
pylons
and
entry
signs,
so
that
will
introduce
a
number
of
solar
lights
into
the
park
and
there.
So
this
is
a
proposed
or
a
suggested
recommendation.
C
A
lot
of
those
additional
lights
are
shown
with
these
smaller
circles,
but
then
we're
we
look
for
the
other
dark
locations
and
where
we
can
add
other
light
fixtures
and
potentially
we
could
add
lights
along
that
urban
wild
path
that
goes
from
alston
closer
to
gordon
street.
The
other
thing
you'll
notice
is
the
rectangle
on
the
sports
courts.
That's
something
we'll
talk
about
tonight
in
terms
of.
C
So
kathy
mentioned
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
that
there's
been
updates
in
the
ball
field
or
the
playground,
but
other
parts
of
the
park
haven't
been
updated.
I
mean
the
great
thing
is
that
here's,
the
circular
space
that
is
used
and
it's
permitted
under
as
a
performance
space
at
some
times,
but
it
has
these
really
great
zelkova
trees
around
it.
So
it's
a
space
that
has
a
good
feeling.
It
just
isn't
really
used
to
its
highest
potential,
but
there
are
some
interesting
things
about
this
space
beyond
just
the
trees.
C
C
There's
erosion
there's
desire
lines
where
people
deviate
from
the
existing
path
system,
but
that
tells
us
something
that
the
path
doesn't
go
where
people
want
to
go
so
in
terms
of
place
making
we
start
to
look
at
these
spaces
and
see
how
can
we
make
them
better
and
accommodate
some
of
the
events
that
you
mentioned
in
the
meetings
and
the
online
survey?
So
here's
back
to
a
plan
view
again
the
courts
are
here.
This
is
one
of
the
entries
and
this
is
the
playground.
C
This
is
a
suggestion
that
this
site
could
be
formalized,
maybe
with
a
different
geometry
and
because
of
the
gray
change.
Think
of
using
that
elevation
change.
There
could
be
a
formalized
stage
and
then
a
couple
rows
of
amphitheater
type
seats
so
that
you
could
actually
have
a
small
concert
there
or
there
could
be
an
a
fair
or
an
art,
show
or
something
like
that,
and
then
some
of
these
other
walls
or
benches
along
the
edges
help
to
define
where
people
should
walk
or
not.
Walk
I'll.
Show
you
this
also
in
3d.
C
C
C
Maybe
we
add
a
new
walkway
which
follows
a
desire
line
there,
but
there's
seat
walls
that
are
more
bouldery
inspired
by
kind
of
the
pudding
stone
outcrops,
but
still
have
that
same
amphitheater
type,
seating,
just
fairly
minimal
a
couple
rows
at
the
bottom
of
the
stairs
there
and
then
an
informal
stage.
C
C
C
And
here
are
some
inspiration
images
just
to
further
elaborate
on
this.
So
when
I
talk
about
amphitheater
style
seating,
you
know
these
are
bigger
blocks
than
stairs.
You
know
they're,
basically
equivalent
to
three
stairs.
You
know
it's
seat,
height,
18,
inches
tall
and
it's
just
naturally
built
into
the
hill
and
then
one
space
you
know,
could
be
more
circular
in
form
there's
an
opportunity,
maybe
that
stormwater
could
be
managed-
maybe
not
at
this
scale,
but
there's
a
a
way
to
integrate
vegetation
and
some
of
the
other
geometry
together.
C
So
to
further
talk
about
place,
making
we
have
some
opportunities
at
each
of
the
five
entrances
and
I'll
go
through
these
one
by
one.
The
existing
entrances
are
not
that
great.
To
tell
you
the
truth.
You
know
some
of
them
really
feel
like
they're
at
the
end
of
a
dead-end
street,
and
you
happen
to
be
able
to
enter
the
park
and
that's
the
case
with
webley
or
emery,
gordon
and
alston.
Entrances
have
that
vocabulary
of
a
mortared
stone
wall
and
piers
with
bollards.
C
C
At
emory,
similarly
suggesting
adding
a
wall
in
piers
as
a
foreground
to
that
performance
space
that
I
mentioned,
and
then
we
also
do
some
editing.
You
know
with
once
you
have
that
wall,
you
don't
need
the
bollards,
the
ringer
playground
sign
can
be
incorporated
into
the
wall
and
some
of
the
other
parks
rule
signs
could
be
cleaned
up
as
well,
so
that
everything
is
there's
no
duplication
or
anything
that's
out
of
date,
and
the
other
thing
to
note
is
this
entrance
would
be
purely
pedestrian.
C
So
at
gordon
street
we
actually
have
the
entrance
proposed
to
move
to
the
left
and
I'm
sorry
I
actually
have
a
home
phone.
That's
that's
ringing
right
now,.
F
C
It's
not
a
snow
day
tomorrow,
so
the
entrance
is
shifting
from
its
current
location
here
over
now.
Why
are
we
doing
that?
Pardon
me
one.
A
C
You
I
unplugged
the
phone,
so
the
orange
line
is
the
new
alignment,
the
path
that
would
be
accessible,
avoiding
that
hill.
It
would
be
scaled
for
vehicular
access
with
a
gate
so
that
maintenance
can
access
here
empty.
The
trash
mow,
the
lawn
do
tree
work
and
a
new
crosswalk
could
be
added.
There's
no
crosswalk
here
now
and
we
can
work
with
btd
and
public
works
to
make
sure
this
has
traffic
calming
and
can
slow
speeds
down.
C
Then
the
urban
wild
entrance
on
allston
street
would
be
widened
so
that
and
have
a
vehicular
gate,
particularly
for
maintenance
access.
Pedestrians
still
flow
past
this
gate.
They
don't
have
to
hop
it
or
go
under
it,
but
this
allows
us
to
do
the
important
work
of
tree
work,
removing
trash
and
that
kind
of
thing
now
at
allston
street,
near
greylock.
C
This
entrance
we
shift
a
little
bit
away
because
we
want
to
have
more
space
as
a
buffer
between
the
park
entrance
and
the
house,
and
these
green
lollipops
are
specifically
vegetation,
it's
trees
or
shrubs,
or
something
just
to
provide
that
buffer,
and
by
doing
that
we
have
to
shift
some
lights
and
the
light
pylon
comes
and
we
have
to
shift
the
path
alignment
some,
but
it
seems
like
an
important
thing
to
do
for
the
butter
and
for
the
park.
C
So
then,
in
terms
of
the
playground,
some
of
the
feedback
you
heard
danielle
talk
about
was
that
people
it's
they
don't
come
to
this
park,
particularly
for
the
playground.
We
know
it's
well
used.
We
know
there's
a
school
that
abuts
the
park,
so
it's
a
nes.
It's
a
function.
We
want
here,
but
it
needs
an
update,
so
this
is
just
a
plan
view
of
the
existing
playground.
C
The
performance
space
I
mentioned
is
here.
This
is
the
two
to
five
play
equipment,
the
five
to
twelve
equipment
and
their
swings
and
a
splash
pad.
What
we've
heard
generally
is
that
all
of
that
works.
It
just
needs
to
be
updated.
So
what
if
it
was
fairly
similar
in
its
arrangement,
so
two
to
five
play
equipment
here,
but
they
have
their
own
swings.
C
Other
things
we
want
to
do
are
addressing
the
accessibility
I
mentioned
we,
the
leading
here
on
the
path,
but
also
with
some
of
the
play
elements
trying
to
maintain
this
footprint.
We
don't
feel
like
we
need
to
expand
further
and
also
have
inclusive
play,
because
there's
an
autism
strand
in
some
of
the
adjacent
schools,
so
that
would
be
helpful
that
this
equipment
is
suitable
for
all
abilities
and
interests.
C
So
then
I
mentioned
the
fitness
circuit.
This
dashed
orange
line
is
suggesting
that
within
ringer
park
there
could
be
a
fitness
circuit
that
has
different
elements,
and
you
know
these
are
up
for
discussion,
but
you
know
there's
a
walking
loop
and
then
potentially
there's
like
a
pull-up
station
and
then
there's
a
sit-up
station.
You
use
the
courts
for
certain
exercises
and
then
you've
got
the
woodlands
where
you
can
go
up
and
down
a
hill.
C
That
kind
of
thing,
so
you
start
to
have
more
functions,
spread
out
through
the
variety
of
this
interesting
park,
and
these
aren't
exercise
elements
that
have
move
moving
parts.
The
people
are
the
moving
parts,
so
there's
a
sit-up
station
or
pull-up
station
balance,
stepping
up
and
down
those
kind
of
things,
low-tech,
very
simple
but
add
actually
a
lot
of
variety
and
interest
in
terms
of
fitness.
C
Opportunity
then
we
want
to
talk
about
enhancing
park
programming,
so
the
courts
are
are
something
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
feedback
on.
One
thing
I
want
to
put
in
perspective
is
where's
ringer
in
respect
to
other
open
spaces
in
the
area.
This
dashed
blue
line
is
the
one
mile
radius,
so
there's
a
number
of
parks
in
the
area,
but
what
do
they
provide?
C
And
this
is
particularly
related
to
courts
and
if
they're
lit
or
not
so
ringer,
we
have
the
two
tennis
courts
and
basketball
courts,
they
have
lighting,
but
the
lighting's
turned
off,
and
then
I
have
a
list
over
here
to
the
left.
You'll
see
that
most
of
the
courts
are
lit,
some
are
not,
and
some
of
that
may
depend
on
the
last
time
those
courts
were
renovated,
but
I
just
want
to
put
that
in
perspective
and
then
talk
about
the
courts
themselves.
There's
a
lot
of
opportunities
here,
one
the
tennis
courts,
typically
when
they're
renovated.
C
If
the
community
is
interested,
we
add
pickleball
striping
so
that
there's
more
potential
use
there.
I
know
at
the
drop-in
session
and
in
the
first
meeting
we
heard
we
heard
some
interest
in
art
opportunities
one.
You
know
people
have
thought
of
basketball
courts
as
one
big
canvas
or
a
mural.
C
We
generally
think
you
know
it
should
be
centrally
located.
So
it's
accessible,
not
on
top
of
the
hill,
that
it
needs
to
be
a
fenced
in
space.
It
shouldn't
be
located
next
to
the
playground
or
school.
It
should
be
at
least
50
feet
from
a
residential
property
line,
and
then
it
should
be
about
five
thousand
square
feet
minimum
now.
The
five
thousand
square
feet
is
something
we've
we've
researched.
C
Some
of
that
is
based
on
outside
of
the
region
examples,
but
we
have
a
list
here:
boston
area,
dog
parks
and
their
sizes
in
the
north
end,
one
that's
a
deflippo
park,
6
500
square
feet,
there's
another
one
richmond
street,
which
is
only
3
300..
You
know
it's
basically
a
it's
like
a
big
bocce
court
peters
park
in
the
south
end,
which
is
closer
to
10
000
square
feet,
similarly
with
east
first
street
and
then
the
others
I
mentioned
here
that
range
from
under
5000
to
tudor
park,
which
is
11
000..
C
So
what
does
that
mean
for
this
park?
We
looked
at
a
number
of
different
options
where
we
could
meet
those
criteria
and
I'll
go
in
more
detail
about
each
one
of
these,
but
there's
six
options
here.
They
all
meet
the
5000
square
foot
minimum
that
we
talked
about
they're
more
than
50
feet,
away
from
a
residence
and
centrally
row
centrally
located
and
can
be
accessible.
C
C
Another
location,
which
is
more
involved
in,
hear
me
out
here
for
a
second,
because
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts.
The
dog
park
goes
where
the
playground
is,
it's
fenced
in
it's
centrally
located,
but
kind
of
removed
from
other
uses.
Then
the
play
area
gets
combined
in
as
an
expanded
play
area
over
at
the
jackson.
Man,
all
in
one
area,
and
then
the
little
league
field
gets
converted
to
a
rectangular
multi-use
field
and
the
paths
get
realigned.
C
C
Another
option
rotate
that
multi-use
field
dog
park
is
more
on
the
southern
part
of
basically
where
the
backstop
and
bleachers
are,
and
one
that
doesn't
require
changing.
The
little
league
field
basically
is
behind
the
backstop
and
that
still
stays
more
than
50
feet
away
from
residences
and
essentially
located.
C
So
covered
a
lot
of
ground.
Thank
you
for
being
patient
and
listening,
and
I
know
some
of
you
have
questions
in
the
q
a,
and
I
think
this
is
where
the
chance,
the
chance
where
we
open
it
up
to
you
all,
to
hear
your
comments
and
talk
through
some
of
these
ideas.
A
Thanks
kyle
and
danielle,
so
I'm
going
to
quickly
just
review
how
you
can
raise
your
hand,
there's
a
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
You'll
see
raised
hand
icon.
You
can
raise
that
and
that
will
indicate
to
us
that
you'd
like
to
say
something.
I
see
a
couple
of
raised
hands
already.
So
that's
great.
If
there's
anybody
on
the
phone
I'm
going
to
try
to
prioritize
them
over
people
who
are
joined
through
their
computer,
you
can
also
put
q
and
a's
in
the
q
a
box.
A
I've
answered
a
few
of
them
as
we've
been
going
through.
The
presentation
said:
put
a
pin
in
others
that
we'll
talk
about
so
we'll
get
to
we'll
get
to
those
as
well.
I
want
to
be
respectful.
D
Of
all
those
voices,
yep,
sorry,
do
you
want
to
do
it
once
you
get
started,
you
want
to
do
two
live
and
then
answer
the
yeah.
A
We'll
see
how
it
goes,
how
many,
how
many
people
want
to
speak
and
how
many
people
have
comments
in
there?
So
we'll
we'll
work
through
that
as
we
go?
Okay,
so,
let's,
let's
have
nancy
grilk,
I'm
gonna.
Allow
you
to
unmute
yourself:
oh
did
I
just
they
have
okay
nancy.
G
Thank
you,
everybody.
Thanks
for
all
your
work,
I
have
a
question
about
all
the
the
relocating
of
of
things.
First
of
all,
I
live.
G
I
bought
the
other
tennis
courts
so
money
just
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
from
the
tennis
and
basketball
courts
and
adding
performance
space
and
a
dog
park
in
that
area
would
be
really
disruptive
and
I
just
want
to
get
out
yeah,
it's
very
residential
on
this
side,
but
I
wonder
I've
been
working
with
a
group
of
people
and
folks
on
the
the
lighting
of
the
park,
and
there
should
be
the
light
pylons
they're
not
proposed.
They
are
actually
going
to
go
in
and
there
will
be
some.
G
The
signage
will
go
in
at
all
the
five
entrances
and
you
know
the
ground
being
frozen,
I'm
not
sure
when
that'll
take
place,
but
but
I
wonder
about
some
of
these
changes
and
how
that
can
be
done,
given
that
the
park
has
received
land
and
water
conservation
funding,
and
I
know
they're
they're
difficult
to
move
on
on
changing
the
use
from
passive
to
anything
else.
So
I
wonder
how
that
would
work.
Thank
you.
A
That's
a
great
great
question
nancy
and
I
think
the
we
have
a
lot
of
parks
that
have
land
water
conservation
grants
have
they've
received
them
in
the
past
and
I
don't
know
that
there
is
a
restriction
on
them.
I'm
sorry,
but.
G
When
we
were
working
on
on
locating
some
of
the
the
artwork
in
the
park,
we
were
looking
to
do
it
on
the
slope,
we're
talking
about
the
pollinator
and
we
were
told
that
that
could
not
be
just.
They
could
not
be
changed
from.
G
I
Okay,
one
comment:
first,
mr
zick,
I
said
I
think
police
said
that
trucks
can't
get
around
the
plane:
the
courts,
sports
courts,
the
maintenance
trucks
where
I
live.
I
watch
them
just
about
daily.
Whenever
they
pick
up
trash
over
by
gordon
street,
they
drive
back
up,
sometimes
sometimes
drive
forward
big
trucks,
small
trucks,
and
if
you
walk
there,
you'll
see
the
broken
sidewalks
that
aren't
that
old.
They
do
that
repeatedly
wreck
the
sidewalks.
So
that's
just
a
clarification.
I
The
circle
that
you
talk
about
on
the
end
of
emory
street
henry
road,
actually,
that's
part
of
an
earlier
master
plan
going
back.
I
don't
know
25
30
years
the
neighborhood
asked
for
that
circle.
Keep
it
grassy
and
plain
for
people
to
gather
the
police
asked
for
it,
so
they
could
get
emergency
vehicle,
police
and
fire,
so
they
could
get
ambulance
and
whatever,
if
they're
needed
through
there,
it's
not
blocked.
I
Now
we
have
a
problem.
There's
a
group
called
the
vikings.
They
go
there
every
weekend
and
they
kill
all
the
grass
around
there.
They
do
their
stuff
with
plastic,
swords
and
whatever,
and
it
seems
harmless,
but
they
do
kill
the
grass
and
I
don't
think,
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
permitted,
maybe
somebody
at
parks
could
find
out
adults
in
play
areas.
I
thought
there
was
a
policy
where,
unless
you're
there
with
kids,
you
don't
go
in
a
play
area.
For
obvious
reasons.
I
That's
just
a
comment.
They're
talking
about
doing
stuff
more
stuff
in
players.
I
don't.
I
only
heard
passingly
about
rain
gardens.
Couldn't
that
be
one
of
the
ways
of
dealing
with
some
of
the
erosion
problems.
If
you
walk
out
of
the
park
over
the
front
of
the
jackson,
man
school,
I
hope
you've
already
seen
it.
There
is
a
wonderful
rain
garden
built
there
by
water
and
sewer
about
a
year
ago.
I
And
lights
in
the
courts,
nancy-
and
I
have
lived
here
since
24
years
when
we
moved
in
the
lights
on
the
court
were
out.
They
came
on
for
a
while
accidentally,
apparently,
maybe
15.
20
years
ago
we
got
a
petition.
The
late
city
council,
brian
houghton,
sent
it
to
the
lake
park.
Commissioner,
justine
lith
and
the
lights
were
turned
out
and
they've
been
off
since
we're
used
to
that
and
because
I
live
across
the
street
any
time
of
the
day
or
night
somebody's
using
those
courts,
not
tennis.
I
So
much,
although
I
was
watching
in
the
snow
today,
but
basketball
in
the
dark,
three
three
a.m:
whatever,
when
the
lights
were
on
accidentally
till
11
for
a
while.
First
of
all,
I'm
blasting
all
our
windows
around
there's
a
lot
of
homes
around
there
and
it
attracted
people
that
weren't
playing
basketball.
They
were
screwing
around
making
trouble,
so
it
was
an
attractive
nuisance.
I
think.
I
Last
thing
about
the
lights:
a
lot:
the
parks
department
spent
a
lot
of
money
about
a
year
ago,
restoring
them
they're
the
same.
I
talked
to
the
electrician
on
the
site.
He
said
they
should
have
never
been
fixed
up
there.
They,
like
the
sky,
they're
inefficient.
They
use
up
a
lot
of
juice
and
therefore
money
get
there.
They
sit,
they
should
be
removed.
We
don't
need
lights
there,
that's
it
for
now.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks
bob,
you
raised
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
questions
and
I
are
a
lot
of
good
points
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
are
addressing
them
to
the
accept
that
we
can
the
first.
You
know,
I
think,
the
the
passive
area
that
or
the
performance
space
you
know
central
area
that
that
was
definitely
a
designed
area,
and
I
think
we
just
want
to.
A
We
see
it
as
an
area
that
has
potential,
and
how
can
we
work
within
that
within
that
area
to
improve
it
and
and
provide
an
additional
asset
to
the
community?
You
know:
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
accommodate
more
than
one
thing
in
this
area?
A
Can
we
accommodate
the
use
that
the
the
irish
vikings
are
are
using
it
for
or
find
another
location
for
them?
That
does
not
affect
the
grass
so
we're
just
trying
to
to
explore
some
of
those
ideas
with
that
you
know
designs,
change,
people,
change,
neighborhoods
change.
We
want
to
bring
that
up,
bring
that
use
up
to
to
what
today
and
tomorrow
will
be
so.
You
know
20
25
years
ago,
that
worked
well
or
maybe
worked
kind
of
well
and
has
worked
less
well
as
of
late,
and
what
can
we
do
to
reflect?
A
What's
what's
happening
today?
A
We
do
our
best
to
gain
access
to
the
areas
that
are
harder
to
access.
Just
because
we
drive
on
a
pathway
does
not
mean
that
it's
actually
wide
enough
for
us
to
drive
on.
So
if
we
can
widen
the
pathway
by
one
or
two
feet
that
may
eliminate
some
of
that
cracking
that
is
happening
and
making
sure
that
that
pathway
is
heavy
duty
enough,
that
it
can
accommodate
that
vehicular
that
vehicular
pathway.
A
So
I
think
I
do
want
to
get
into
some
of
the
questions
about
the
lighting,
because
I
think,
as
you
know,
we
heard
a
lot
from
the
community
last
time
and
and
through
our
survey
that
there
is
a
desire
to
have
to
play
basketball
in
this
court
after
hours
and
I'd
like
to
dig
in
a
little
more
to
this.
So
someone.
I
understand
that
some
of
the
better
is
not
just
bob,
but
some
of
the
inventors
don't
want
likes
on
the
basketball
court.
A
But
many
basketball
users
would
like
additional
time,
especially
in
the
summer,
to
get
out
of
the
house
blow
off
some
steam
and
participate
in
a
healthy
activity
so
specifically
to
the
neighbors.
What
are
the
concerns
about?
Turning
on
lights
during
the
summer
hours,
which
is
typically
memorial
day
to
labor
day
and
the
lights,
are
on
a
timer
that
they
would
go
off
at
10
30.,
and
that
is
a
policy
that
the
parks
department
has.
We
certainly
have
we've
made
accommodations
in
other
other
locations.
A
A
I
You
guys
should
probably
come
over
to
our
home
and
visit
sometime,
we'll
give
you
a
cup
of
coffee.
You
can
watch
it
tennis,
not
so
much
because
it
probably
gets
hit
in
the
face
if
it's
too
dark
but
summertime.
What
do
we
have
14
hours
of
light?
The
neighbors
should
get
a
break
and
adding
something
I'm
going
to
switch
gears.
A
little
here
to
to
a
dog
park
which
would
probably
have
lights
is
another
nuisance
for
the
people
that
live
around
here
they
always
say:
well,
you
moved
in
next
to
a
park.
I
You
knew
that
yeah.
Well,
there
wasn't
a
dog
park
and
there
weren't
lights.
Actually
they
were
there,
but
they
weren't
turned
on
they're
intrusive
and
the
fact
is
they
use
these
courts
all
the
time
without
lights,
there's
no
leaks
and
there's
no
leaks,
so
they
don't
play.
They
don't
need
them.
A
My
salary
is
not
tied
to
to
energy
savings.
Okay,
thank
you.
I'm
gonna,
move
on
to
braden,
I'm
gonna.
Allow
you
to
talk
and
unmute
yourself.
H
Thank
you
kathy,
and
unfortunately
I
am
in
in
the
meeting
for
a
very
short
time
I
have
another
meeting
to
go
to,
but
I'm
really
impressed
with
all
the
great
work
that
you
folks
are
doing
are
doing
and
the
the
level
of
community
participation
and
outreach.
So
please,
let
us
know
my
chief
of
staff.
Pam
million
is
here
as
well,
so
just
let
us
know
if
we
can
help
in
any
way.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
All
right,
I'm
gonna,
were
there
other
comments
in
the
q,
a
about
about
the
basketball
they
played
basketball
all
hours
after
night,
all
night.
A
I'm
going
to
read
this
from
margaret
o'connell
need
lights.
Just
because
neighbors
are
now
used
to
darkness,
doesn't
mean
it
can
stay
dark
forever
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
explore
are.
There
are
there's
some
modifications
that
we
can
make.
Is
the
issue
primarily
around
glare,
which
can
we
can
solve
help
solve
through
through
sharp
cutoffs
and
leds
that
works
well
in
other
locations?
A
The
lights
are
very
bright.
It
usually
takes
one
to
three
hours
after
the
lights
go
off
before
the
crowds
disperse,
and
I
think
that
that's
that's
a
great
point,
and
we
can.
We
can
work
with
the
with
the
police
and
try
to
monitor
that,
and
the
light
levels
could
be
adjusted
through.
There's
technology
that
it
it
can,
it
can
be
instant
on
and
instant
off
throughout
remote
access.
A
A
The
language
gets
dramatically
worse
as
it
gets
dark.
That's
another
great
great
point
for
us
to
consider.
Also
more
pot
smoked.
The
later
we
get
as
a
resident
living
half
a
block
away.
The
lights
on
the
court
would
be
hugely
beneficial
to
those
walking
through
the
park
at
night
and
hoping
to
utilize
the
space
during
the
summer
months.
I
know
there
were
many
nights
this
summer
when
I
saw
peaceful
quiet
community
gatherings
that
would
have
loved
some
extra
light.
A
So
thank
you
for
that
comment
all
right.
So,
let's,
let's
try
to
move
on
to
some
other
comments,
I'm
going
to
hallie
I'm
going
to
allow
you
to
talk
and
make
your
comments.
J
Okay,
hi,
I'm
I'm
hallie.
I
live
in
austin
about
half
a
mile
from
the
park.
A
I
think
there
was
another
comment
about
wanting
the
community
garden
and
I
think
we'd
have
to
get
a
sense
of
what
you
know
really
what
the
feeling
is,
but
also
what
the
physical
size
requirements
for
a
community
garden
is.
I
know
this
feels
like
there's
an
endless
amount
of
space,
but
there's
quite
a
bit
of
tree
cover
here,
a
lot
of
topography
and
trying
to
fit
that
program
in
we
just
need
to
get
a
better
sense
of
what
the
what
the
community,
what
the
size
for
a
community
garden
like
that
would
be.
A
So
if
you
have
any
information
about
that,
that
would
be
helpful.
I'm
trying
to
think
about
some
of
the
other
community
gardens
that
we
have
in
the
city
and
what
the
size
is
and
they're
they
do
take
up
quite
a
bit
of
space.
J
It
definitely
is
like
a
flexible
because
it
doesn't
have
to
be
like
one
of
those
huge
plots
that
everyone
has
their
own
space.
It's
just
like,
basically,
just
like,
like
a
home
base
for
programming
stuff.
So
even
if
it's
just
like
a
couple
of
those
gardening
boxes
that
are,
you
know
like
maybe
like
four
feet
by
four
feet,
just
like
a
few
of
those
or
something
like
that,
like
not
like
a
huge
space
or
anything
just
something
where
there
could
be
some
gardening
happening.
I
guess
yes,.
A
To
do
collectively,
if
you
have
more
information,
I
think
we
would
want
to
have
a
pretty
firm
commitment
from
a
group
to
move
forward
with
that,
and
we
typically
do
have
community
gardening
partners
that
help
manage
those
spaces,
because,
without
any
kind
of
you
know,
management
from
from
an
outside
group,
we're
we
don't
we're
not
able
to
provide
that
level
of
service
of
you
know,
assigning
plots
or
making
sure
that
everybody's
represented
in
a
fair
and
equitable
way.
A
So
it's
something
we
can
we're
happy
to
have
a
further
conversation
with
with
you
or
anyone
else,
who's
interested
in
it.
J
Yeah
because
we
would
definitely
be
able
to
talk
about
like,
like
we
have
ideas
in
place
to
make
sure
that,
like
longevity
occurs,
and
it's
not
just
left
for
to
be
dealt
with
in
like
a
couple
years
or
something
so
yeah.
I'd
love
to
greenville.
A
Park
isn't
necessarily
the
first
spot
that
comes
to
mind
for
community
gardens,
but
depending
on
the
size
it
may
be
possible
or
not.
There
are
a
lot
of
other
sites
in
allston
that
are
are
would
be
easier
to
incorporate
that
into
so.
If
it's
not
ringer
specific,
we
could
have
that
conversation
as
well.
K
Oh
hi,
thank
you.
No
problem,
I'm
happy
to
wait.
Hi.
My
name
is
marta.
I'm
living
I
live
on
armington
street,
just
off
of
the
park
of
the
the
wesley
entrance,
I'm
a
mother
to
a
six-year-old
who
was
raised
in
ringer
park.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
in
presenting
this
to
us,
it's
very
helpful
to
be
able
to
talk
through.
I
do
appreciate
the
entrance
improvements.
K
They
look
really
good,
definitely
helpful
to
not
have
those
weird
pylons
sticking
out
everywhere,
while
you
try
to
get
through
with
your
bike.
Road
service
improvements
sound,
really
good.
I
like
the
idea
of
the
main
artery
through
the
what
the
urban
area
to
be
better
paved,
so
you
can
actually
I
mean.
K
Currently
I
have
a
newborn
at
home
that
is
staying
with
us
right
now
and
I
have
a
stroller,
I'm
like
okay,
that's
off
the
charge
for
me
right
now,
but
with
the
stroller
or
with
improvement
that
could
be
possible
as
well.
Then,
a
couple
of
questions
I
had
in
regards
to
fitness
objects
in
the
playground
like
what
the
first
gentleman
I
believe
bob
was
mentioning.
It
would
bring
adults
into
the
playground.
K
That
probably,
would
you
know
it
can
be
fun,
but
at
the
same
time
sometimes
adults
do
come
into
the
playground
area
to
use
the
monkey
bars
or
the
equipment
to
do
their
workout,
and
sometimes
it
creates,
creates
a
little
bit
of
an
uncomfortable
atmosphere.
When
I
come
there
with
my
young
child
and
they
will,
you
know,
kind
of
take
up
that
particular
part
of
the
play
area
and
she's.
We
cannot
go
and
play
there
because
that
feels
uncomfortable
or
especially
over
the
last
summer.
K
During
the
pandemic,
the
people
who
do
their
exercise
would
not
be
wearing
their
masks,
so
we
couldn't
get
anywhere
close
so
yeah
if
the
fitness
can
kind
of
stay
aside.
Like
I
appreciate
fitness
opportunities
in
the
park,
I
think
that's
fun,
but
maybe
separate
from
the
playground
area.
K
I
do
oh,
the
community
part
garden.
What
the
lady
was
saying,
I
I
remember
behind
the
jackson,
man.
They
had
a
little
bit
like
a
school
community
garden.
They
had
for
a
while.
They
would
like
over
the
sum
or
like
the
spring
semester.
They
would
plant
they
had
those
boxes,
but
they
would
be
left
to
themselves
during
the
summer,
but
maybe
that
is
a
space
that
could
be
used
for
it.
K
It
does
get
very
sunny,
especially
now
that
a
couple
trees
have
been
taken
down
that
were
there,
so
that
might
be
a
nice
location
to
grow
some
things
and
if
potentially
the
playground
gets
moved
to
that
area,
then
that
could
also
kind
of
be
all
incorporated
for
myself.
I'm
trying
to
find
out
do
I
you
know
the
pla,
the
location
of
the
playground
where
it
is.
I
like
that
it
is
a
little
bit
away
from
everything,
since
it
doesn't
invite
for
just
anybody
to
come
in.
K
You
just
go
there
when
you
have
a
purpose
and
it's
kind
of
half
shade
during
the
summer,
there's
nice
street
that
you
know
the
nice
tree.
So
at
some
point
in
the
afternoon
during
the
summer,
you
can
actually
go
there
and
you
can
find
a
little
bit
of
shade
where,
if
you
move
the
playground
to
behind
the
jackson,
man
or
like
part
of
the
field
there,
it's
it's
way
more
open,
it
might
just
get
too
hot.
So
those
would
be
some
considerations
but
yeah,
thank
you
so
much
for.
K
For
the
rest,
this
is
kind
of
what
I
wanted
to
bring
in.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
dave,
vance,
I'm
going
to
allow
you
to
talk.
You
can
unmute
yourself.
I
think
I've
done
the
right
person
I
may
have.
Oh,
you
know
what
I
did
jwitty
or
26.
I
think
I
unmuted
yourself,
okay,
you!
You
should
be
able
to
on
yourself
now
and
then
I'll
do
dave
next.
L
Yes,
hi,
I'm
brianna
richardson,
and
this
is
my
mom
and
we
live
on
35
emory
road.
I
just
wanted
to.
This
is
a
great
meeting
and
also
just
a
little
tidbit
about
the
basketball
court.
L
I
walk
my
dog
a
lot
at
night
and
sometimes
when
there's
not
a
lot
of
light
around
there,
it
kind
of
just
it's
not
a
safe
place
to
be,
and
I
think
when
you
have
light
it
your
light
into
the
night,
it
also
is
makes
it
a
very
safe
environment
as
well,
but
when
you
take
away
that
light,
take
away
all
the
light
in
the
possibility
of
light
in
the
park.
You
know
that
kind
of
cuts
the
times
for
people
to
really
congregate
and
also
have
vibra
vibrant
fellowship
there
too,.
M
Okay-
and
this
is
her
mom,
the
last
thing-
janine
witter
and
the
butter
on
emory
road.
So
the
point
is:
is
I'm
looking
at
this
bigger
picture?
It
seems
like
20
years
ago,
25
years
ago,
when
we
moved
here,
it
was
a
different
type
of
park.
It
sounds
to
me,
like
this
plant
is
trying
to
change
the
park
into
a
more
young
professional
wanting
to
exercise
and
release.
M
So
that's
something
that
the
community
has
to
agree
to
which
I'm
hearing
is
still
a
split.
I
do
believe
that
the
children's
area
should
be
separated.
I
raise
a
child
in
that
park
as
well.
It
should
not
be
over
by
the
basketball
court
or
tennis
court,
because
it's
too
open
to
gordon
street,
as
well
as
the
meth
clinic
up
the
street,
definitely
needs
to
be
separated
and
also
the
exercise
activity
area
near
the
children's
playground
is
a
risk
liability
to
the
city
as
well,
and
that
really
needs
to
be
reevaluated
and
switched
out.
M
All
together
doesn't
make
good
sense
at
all.
I
think
that
also
it's
a
liability.
The
exercise
area
is
a
liability
because
a
lot
of
it's
low,
some
of
the
exercise
equipment,
even
though
it's
not
a
lot,
was
a
bit
higher
so
that
people
couldn't
like
trip
over
it
stumble
over.
It
fall
off
of
it
because
what
happens
at
night,
although
we
don't
want
to
admit
it,
there
are
young
people
out
there
at
night
playing
around
and
somebody's
going
to
get
hurt
with
that
low
stuff.
M
I
think
it's
too
much
of
a
liability,
so
unless
they
move
the
exercise
equipment
to
an
area,
that's
not
that's
not
as
accessible
or
move
the
exercise
equipment
make
it
a
little
bit
higher.
It's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
mess,
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
that
hasn't
really
been
said
is
about
again
the
vikings.
M
I
know
that
that
brings
a
lot
of
people
enjoyment,
but
it
is
a
problem
for
people
who
want
to
bring
their
young
kids
because
or
young
families,
because
of
the
fact
that
it's
it's
aggressive
and
it's
a
little
scary
for
the
young
people.
I
think
that
we
have
to
decide
whether
we
want
this
to
be
a
play
area
for
adults
or
a
play
area
for
young
people
like
kids.
M
So
you
know
I
I
personally
have
a
problem
with
that.
I
think
that
that
I
don't
think
that
necessarily
we
should
just
design
a
park
based
on
one
group's
activity
if
there's
a
space
that
they
can
use,
I'm
all
for
it,
but
I'm
not
sure
about
designing
a
certain
portion
just
to
accommodate
that
group.
So.
A
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
great
point
and
but
I
think
we
want
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
designing
a
space
that
will
be
used
by
a
group
that
would
just
would
negatively
impact
the
work
that
we
just
did
right.
A
So
if
we
were
to
put
like
just
for
an
example
like
if
you
put
sod
down
in
that
circle
area,
because
you
know
these
users
are
are
here
that
will
that
will
affect
that
viability
of
that
newly
installed
sod
right
so
can
can
we
design
a
space,
that's
flexible
enough
to
accommodate
users
of
this
type
and
as
the
park
users
change
could
accommodate
users
of
a
different
type
right.
That's
just
what
we're
exploring.
A
A
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
we
want
to
explore
with
this
plan.
So
that's
great.
So
thank
you,
sir.
Very
much
for
your
comments.
All
right,
dave
vance,
I'm
to
allow
you
to
unmute
yourself.
N
Hi
thanks
kathy
thanks.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
it's
been.
I
think
you
guys
have
done
a
great
job
and
I
I
appreciate
all
of
the
plants
so
far.
I
love
to
play
tennis
at
the
park
where
my
wife
and
I
are
dog
owners,
so
we
love
the
idea
of
a
dog
park
there.
N
I
have.
My
proposal
is
one:
that's
not
really
been
talked
about
much,
but
I
think
there's
space
in
the
four
acres
of
urban
wild
for
like
a
skills.
Some
cycling
features
for
families
for
people
of
all
ages,
something
that
would
kind
of
supplement
the
the
pump
track,
the
smith
playground,
but
be
in
more
of
an
urban
or
like
a
natural
setting.
N
That
would
have
features
that
kids
could
learn
to
ride
bikes
on
and
would
be
just
something
fun
to
liven
up
that
space
and
promotes
its
safe
use.
I
think
that
that's
something
that
could
be
done
really
well
and
not
really
take
away
from
that
natural
space
or
inhibit
any
other
uses
of
the
park.
A
Thanks
thanks
we'll,
I
think
you
you
can
probably
see
from
the
survey
that
the
urban
wild
is
very
well
loved
and
very
well
used
as
it
is,
and
changing
the
use
may
change
the
management
of
that
quite
a
bit.
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
designing
something
that
we
can
maintain
into
the
future.
So
thank
you
whitney.
I
will
allow
you
to
unmute
yourself.
O
Greetings
and
thank
you,
let
me
put
my
picture
on
all
right.
Forget
that
dave
vance.
I
love
that
idea
outdoor
obstacle
course.
Let
me
add
that
I
could
see
that
and
marla
and
hayley
cooper.
Yes,
on
the
gardens
and
yeah,
I
have
been
one
ice
that
area
that
marla
mentioned.
O
I
have
been
wanting
to
do
exactly
that
and
re
start.
What
was
there,
which
I
I
think
haley
might
be
able
to
find
out
more
about
now.
My
main
concern,
I'm
a
safety
engineer
and
I'm
kind
of
confused
as
to
why
we're
not
working
with
the
city's
engineers
and
because
and
the
maintenance
crew
who's
already
in
there
who
has
experience
with
what
the
actual
situation
is.
A
Coordinated
so
I
I
just
want
to
explain
our
process
a
bit.
We've
had
many
conversations
with
the
maintenance
department
we
met
with
them.
The
maintenance
poor
person
on
site
walked
the
whole
site
with
him
got
an
understanding
of
how
he
accesses
the
park
where
he
sees
some
of
the
low
areas
where
he
sees
problems
and
just
get
a
sense
of
what
what
the
concerns
are.
From
his
perspective,
we're
going
to
continue
to
vet
our
plan
with
the
maintenance
department,
so
that
we're
make.
A
We
make
sure
that
any
improvements
that
we
make
they
support,
they
think,
will
improve
their
workflow
as
a
department.
You
know
we're
with
parks
department.
We
have
a
chief
engineer,
there's
also
the
public
works
department.
They
have
engineers
in-house,
but
the
public
facilities
department
also
does
design
work.
All
of
us
hire
design
teams
that
we
think
best
match
their
skills
with
the
problems
that
we
know
of
and
potentially
don't
know
of.
A
So
we
hire
design
consultants
to
study
a
wide
variety
of
problems
to
help
us
address
those
issues,
we're
talking
at
a
very
broad
level
here
about
some
of
the
drainage
issues.
Some
of
them
are
very
specific
about
this
area
gets
wet,
but
we
do.
We
are
also
simultaneously
taking
a
very
big
picture,
look
and
working
through
consulting
with
the
boston,
water
and
sewer
department.
A
Our
commission,
when
we
get
to
specific
site
plan
improvements,
they
have
also
identified
sites
that
they
would
like
to
prioritize
some
green
infrastructure
with
this
is
one
of
those.
I
need
to
dig
into
more
about
exactly
why
that
is
because,
when
I
look
at
this
site,
I
see
a
lot
of
ledge,
which
means
to
leads
me
to
believe:
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
room
for
for
subsurface
infiltration.
So
those
are
some
of
the
big
engineering
problems
that
we're
we're.
A
Looking
at
and
considering
most
of
the
time
we
don't
get
into
that
kind
of
granular
level
of
specific
site
plan.
Improvements
just
know
that
all
of
the
improvements
are
going
to
be
looked
at
and
considered
through
that
drainage
lens
we're
going
to
be
infiltrating
impervious
the
first
inch
of
rain
throughout
the
throughout
the
park
for
any
impervious
surfaces
that
we're
adding.
So
those
are
all
kind
of
the
regulatory
behind
the
scenes,
things
that
we
as
a
city
are
doing
to
improve
the
drainage
throughout
the
city.
O
Okay,
because
the
the
real
concern
here
is
the
rodents
okay,
this
is
this
is
the
real
safety
issue
health-wise,
you
know
rodents,
which
and
and
even
talking
about
anything
else
before
we
get,
we
take
care
of
this
one
huge
problem,
it's
just
it's
just
kind
of
seems
hard
for
me
to
wrap
my
head
around.
So
okay.
A
We
will
include
control
in
in
our
in
our
construction
projects
for
sure
some
of
that
is
stuff
that
happens
beyond
the
boundaries
of
the
park
that
we're
not
able
to
to
address.
But
I
will
I'll
reach
out
to
isd
and
see
if
there's,
if
they
know
of
some
problem
sites,
that
we
could
work
together
on
to
try
to
to
yeah
press
the
rotation.
O
A
You
I'm
going
to
read
a
couple.
I
want
to
get
a
couple
of
questions
about.
Look
like
there
were
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
fields
that
I
just
want
to
touch
on.
Could
the
multi-use
field
be
shaped
more
organically
as
well,
or
does
it
have
to
be
strictly
rectangular?
A
So
when
we're
looking
at
how
the
field
lays
out
on
in
the
site,
we
want
to
understand
the
rectangular
limits
of
that,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
there
wouldn't
be
couldn't,
wouldn't
or
couldn't
be
an
organic
edge
to
that.
But
we
want
to
understand,
what's
the
maximum
size
of
on
the
field
of
play
that
we
can
get
in
this
site,
I
think
there
was
another
one
about
the
field.
Maybe
that
was
the
only
one.
A
I've
been
I've
been
promoting
a
multi-use
synthetic
little
league
baseball
soccer
where
the
baseball
field
is
located.
The
little
league
field
has
been
long
underfunded.
It
would
be
great
for
the
schools
to
have
soccer
little
league,
baseball
and
softball.
The
dog
park
is
funny
to
propose
due
to
so
much
woods
and
areas
I
remote,
but
that's
a
new
movement.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
I
I've
done
several
artificial
turf
fields
throughout
the
city.
A
I
don't
usually
like
to
do
little
league
artificial
turf
fields,
but
I
think
it's
something
that
as
a
comprehensive
plan
as
a
master
plan,
that's
maybe
something
we
that
we
should
look
at
and
consider.
I
think,
before
we
move
forward
on
any
on
a
field
improvement
like
that
we
would
re-engage
the
community
and
talk
about
artificial
turf.
A
I
think
that
was.
Let
me
just
make
sure
that
the.
A
Field
comments
are
pretty
widely
pretty
much
addressed,
and
I'm
going
to
allow
michael
dorgan
to
make
a
comment.
So,
michael,
you
can
unmute
yourself.
P
Yeah,
thank
you
yeah.
I
I
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that's
gone
into
this
and
it
certainly
you
know,
looks
like
some
promising
developments.
You
know.
I
have
one
topic
that
I
want
to
talk
about
relative
to
the
dogs
and
then
my
daughter
wanted
to
talk
about
the
you
know:
the
basketball
courts
and
again
we're
in
a
butter.
We
live
right
next
to
the
courts.
P
P
I
know
you
know
many
times
the
dogs
are
kind
of
out
of
control,
they'll
jump
on
you,
especially
especially
after
they
come
out
of
the
park
area,
so
I
think,
like
intermixing
it
with
some
of
the
other
public
areas
would
be.
P
You
know
a
problem
today,
oftentimes
if
you
want
to
use
the
ballpark
it's
kind
of
hard
to
get
the
dog
people
to
get
off
of
it
and
in
theory
you
know
today,
it's
it's
illegal
for
them
to
have
dogs
in
that
area.
I
mean
there's
a
sign
right
on
on
the
fence.
That
indicates
that
so.
P
Ignored
at
this
point,
sam,
you
want
to
talk
about
them.
D
N
F
I'm
sam
dorgan,
I
grew
up
in
the
park
about
the
the
basketball
lights.
It
keeps
me
up
at
night,
especially
when
they're
they're
being
rowdy.
A
So
I
think
that
that
is
when
I
dig
into
some
of
these
comments
about
the
dog
parks
that
were
in
the
questions-
and
I
am
way
behind
in
in
some
of
these
questions.
Why
can't
the
dog
park
continue
to
be
fenced
in
ballpark,
currently
they're,
a
very
nice
community
that
use
that-
and
I
think,
as
michael
was
referr
was,
was
saying.
Currently,
the
ball
field
is
not
supposed
to
be
a
dog
park.
If
you
think
about
it,
the
kids
play
there.
A
If
someone
doesn't
doesn't
clean
up
after
their
their
dog
kids
can
step
in
in
dog
waste.
It's
not
it's
not
a
compatible
use
similar
to
how
we
we
do
banned
dogs
from
play
areas
from
fenced-in
play
areas.
A
So
I
understand
that
it
is
a
great
community.
They
self-police
they.
They
talk
to
neighbors,
who
have
not
been
conscientious
about
cleaning
up
after
their
dogs,
but
it's
it's
not
an
ideal
mix
of
uses,
so
we're
raising
the
question:
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
separate
these
uses
that
we
can
provide
a
fenced
in
dog
area
for
off-leash
dogs
for
the
neighborhood
to
decrease
that
activity
on
the
ball
field?
So
the
current
de
facto
dog
park
is
full
size
of
the
playing
field.
A
As
someone
who
comes
here
every
day
with
my
dog,
I
can
tell
you
that
is
by
far
the
most
active
part
of
the
park.
Year-Round
current
plans
look
like
they
shrink
the
dog
park
significantly,
and
that
is
a
that's
a
great
great
point:
we're
looking
the
sizes
that
we're
showing
are
based
on
other
dog
parks
and
in
other
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city
of
boston,
just
as
a
just
as
a
reference.
A
So
that's
just
so
you
can
get
a
sense
of
what
what
what
that
would
be
doesn't
mean
it's
going
to
be
exactly
that
size.
I
will
say
that
we're
planning
a
dog
park
for
smith
playground
that
will
be
constructed
starting
this
spring-
will
take
about
a
year
for
it
to
be
constructed
and
that
will
be
significantly
larger,
so
this
might
be
a
neighborhood-sized
dog
park
with
smith.
A
If
there
are,
let
me
see
if
there's
other
dog
park
comments,
I'm
scanning
these
any
more
info
about
how
the
dog
parts
park
spot
will
be
chosen.
I
didn't
want
a
dog
park,
but
I
realized
we
needed.
I
think
5000
is
about
right,
fenced
away
from
the
ball
field,
so
yeah.
So
I
think,
as
we
sort
through
some
of
these
issues,
determining
whether
we're
going
to
be
converting
this
to
a
to
a
multi-purpose
field
instead
of
a
little
league
field.
A
That's
a
conversation
we're
going
to
have
with
our
permitting
department
to
see
what
the
needs
are
and
that
may
drive
some
of
these
decisions.
I
think
we
have
some
preferred
sites
and
some
less
preferred
sites.
I'm
not
sure
the
gordon
street
side
works
very
well,
but
we
did
want
to
show
that
to
you,
because
it
was
raised
at
the
last
meeting
and
to
just
make
sure
that
we
we
are
considering
it
it's
it's
long
and
skinny,
which
isn't
ideal.
A
Dogs
are
not
out
of
control,
they're
way
more
dog
owners
in
the
community
than
little
league
players.
The
dog
park
near
gordon
street
sounds
good.
It
is
a
separate
place
for
dog
owners
and
their
dogs
to
congregate.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
christine,
I
think,
maybe,
is
trying
to
get
my
attention.
A
No,
I
don't
know
if
kyle,
if
you
want
to
go
back,
if
you're
able
to
go
back
to
those
dog
park,
site
plan
alternatives-
and
these
are
just
these-
were
fit
kind
of
a
fit
fit
models
to
see
what
you
could
get
in
each
of
these
areas.
A
All
right
dan,
I'm
gonna,
allow
you
to
unmute
yourself
and
make
a
comment.
Q
Thank
you
wow.
Thank
you.
Everybody
great
job
enjoy
the
upgrades
to
the
majority
of
the
field,
and
I
was
the
one
who
wrote
the
comment
on
the
multi-use
synthetic
field.
I
have.
I
grew
up
in
the
area.
Member
of
the
west
anna's
boys
and
girls
club
worked
at
the
jackson.
Man
school
ran,
softball
leagues,
out
of
that
field
played
bnbl
in
the
basketball
field,
so
lifelong
brighton
resident.
Q
What
I
just
think
would
be
sensational
and
I
I'm
sorry
to
disagree
with
the
dog
owners,
and
I
echo
your
response
kathy
on.
You
can't
have
the
dogs
in
the
baseball
field,
it's
a
softball
film
and
the
reason
that
the
baseball
declined
as
a
former
athletic
director
with
the
jacks
man
and
working
in
the
west
end
house
and
then
working
in
the
high
schools
neighborhood
high
schools.
Q
The
reason
is
because
the
softball
field
just
became
too
run
down,
it
wasn't
upgraded,
it
just
was
never
brought
to
standard
for
m.I.a
use
or
any
formal
league.
So
I
would
propose-
and
I
just
thrown
out
out
there
to
take
a
look
of
this
multi-synthetic
field-
a
lot
of
people
in
the
neighborhood
play
soccer.
Q
There's
some
wonderful
soccer
leagues
out
of
the
jackson.
Man's
community
center
could
really
use
that
and
if
it
could
be
a
multi-use
field
that
incorporated
what's
already
there
softball
little
league
baseball
and
add
soccer.
That
would
be
ideal
to
me
for
improvements.
But
again
it's
a
big
part,
there's
a
lot
of
usage
and
that's
just
the
one
that
I'm
passionate
about.
I
think,
unfortunately,
you
know
I
don't
think
the
dog
uses.
I
think
they've
been
fortunate,
that
the
park
still
run
down
and
they've
kind
of
taken
it
over.
And
yes,
it's
a
hot
spot.
Q
A
Thanks
the
other,
the
other
consideration
that
I
just
want
to
add
to
the
field
configuration
is
some
of
the
the
other
planning
and
upcoming
design
improvements
that
will
be
happening
throughout
the
neighborhood
and
working
with
the
community
groups
that
do
permit
those
fields
and
understanding
their
demands
as
well
demand
and
usage,
not
demands
and
give
it
to
me
so
nom,
I'm
going
to
allow
you
to
talk,
I
don't
think
you
have.
I
don't
think
we've
heard
from
you
yet.
F
Yeah,
that
sounds
good.
Thank
you.
Does
this
work?
Yep?
Okay,
wonderful,
thank
you
for
addressing
the
comment
about
the
dog,
so
I
am
a
dog
owner
and
I
wanted
to
second
some
of
the
comments
that
have
been
posted
about.
You
know
a
really
good
self-policing
community,
a
lot
of
usage.
If
you
went
to
the
park
tonight,
for
example,
it's
essentially
deserted
apart
from
the
dog
spaces,
so
I'm
looking
at
the
the
existing
plans.
I
think
I
understand
how
the
dog
space
is
comparative
to
other
such
urban
areas.
F
I'm
wondering
whether,
given
the
extent
of
the
community
and
the
number
of
people
who
who
do
bring
their
dogs
and
who
do
enjoy
this
community,
we
might
consider
you
know
having
it
slightly
larger
than
average,
just
because
a
lot
of
these
people
are
people
who
do
live
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
not
quite
the
same
thing
as
needing
to
own
a
car
to
drive
far
away
to
go
to
a
larger
dog
park.
F
So
that's
just
something
I've
mentioned,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
kind
of
the
the
planning
team
for
putting
and
thinking
about
dog
spaces
in
here,
because
I
know
it's
been
something
that's
been
asked
for
a
lot
on.
Some
of
the
other
points
just
wanted
to
weigh
in
a
little
bit.
I
agree
with
some
of
the
comments
on
the
fact
that
lights
in
the
playing
field
maintain
safety.
F
You
know,
as
a
woman
walking
through
the
park
at
night,
it
helps
a
lot
to
have
some
lights
on,
so
I'm
I'm.
I
understand
that
the
residents
and
the
booters,
don't
you
know
it's
not
their
preference.
I
understand
that.
However,
for
the
safety
of
the
rest
of
the
community
and
the
people
who
are
using
these
fields,
it
is
kind
of
important.
A
F
Courts,
the
courts
and
also
for
the
urban
wildlife
area.
I
think
it's
wonderful
to
be
maintaining
it
in
its
well
in
its
kind
of
wild
aspects.
Some
light
through
that
forest
might
help
a
lot
with
some
of
the
behaviors
and
kind
of.
D
A
Thank
you
all
right,
I'm
gonna
see
if
I
can
get
through
a
couple
of
these
comments,
there's
a
question
about
that.
I'm
not
sure.
Maybe
danielle,
maybe
you
can
answer
this
for
the
sixty
percent
of
the
people.
D
B
A
I
think
the
I
think
the
urban
wild
area
could
use
investigation
as
far
as
native
species
and
variety
of
plants,
then
replant
remove
the
undesirable
ones.
This
would
require
expertise
from
an
expert,
and
that
is
definitely
something
that
we
are
looking
for.
We're
going
to
be,
including
in
our
recommendations
for
this
plan
and
then
when
we
get
to
the
urban
wild
capital
work,
including
that
work
as
a
as
a
specialty
inventorying.
All
of
the
trees
is
probably
part
of
it.
A
Removing
the
the
declining
trees
getting
an
arborist
out
there
having
them
consult.
So
we
can
identify
some
of
the
larger
issues
right
now,
but
then,
as
we
get
into
that
capital
work
really
drilling
down
into
this
train
needs
to
be
removed.
This
tree,
even
though
it
is
looks
like
it's
in
decline,
you
know
maybe
there's
pruning.
We
can
do
to
work
on
that.
A
R
Hello,
thank
you.
I
I
have
comments
about
park
improvements,
but
I
would
like
to
address
a
misconception
about
ringer
park
that
I
see
all
the
time
I
didn't
see
it
mentioned
in
this
presentation
or
the
last
one,
but
the
the
ringer
park.
Facebook
page
says
it
a
lot.
It's
commonly
claimed
that
frederick
law
olmsted
designed
ringer
park,
but
that
is
that's
not
true.
He's
the
guy
who
designed
central
park
and
and
the
emerald
necklace
he
died
in
1903
and
the
park
became
a
park
in
1916.
R
So
just
based
off
that
we
know
it's
not
true
and
the
confusion
about
this,
I
think,
comes
in
because
his
his
sons
carried
on
the
firm
and
they
were
consulted
in
1916
when
they
were
making
a
park.
So
if
you
go
online
on
the
the
library
of
congress
website,
their
their
letters
are
on
there
and
like
all
of
their
ideas
for
the
park
are
included
and
like
they
had
some.
They
had
some
weird
ideas.
Basically,
they
wanted
to
to
connect
the
rock
formations
in
ringer
park
with
like
stone
walls
and
then
fill
it
in.
R
So
the
the
the
hilltop
became
like
this
flat
space
and
yeah
lots
of
crazy
ideas
that
are
kind
of
hard
to
imagine
now,
because
the
west
end
house
is
there
but
yeah
none
of
their
ideas
were
used.
So
I
think
so
you
don't
have
to
worry
about.
I
don't
know
disturbing,
like
sacred
park
design
in
this
park
here
and
and.
A
Also,
the
historic
capital
h
historic
park,
it's
an
old
park,
but
it's
not
historic
and
it's
not
landmark
so
there's
no
historic
regulatory
reviews
that
we
need
to
go
through
to
make
these
improvements.
R
Exactly
yeah,
and
also
I
want
to
say,
I
said
this
in
my
q-
a
thing,
but
I
want
to
repeat
it.
I
think
a
public
bathroom
would
be
a
really
great
addition
to
this
park.
Austin
only
has
one
other
public
bathroom,
so
I
don't
know.
There's
there's
a
need
there,
especially
now
with
like
lots
of.
I
don't
know
when
this
would
happen,
of
course,
but
like
public
like
bathrooms,
and
restaurants
and
stuff
are
less
open
right
now,
so
I
think
there's
that
lots
of
people
would
benefit
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
So
thank
you
for
that
comment.
As
a
as
a
department.
We
don't
want
to
be
adding
things
that
we
can't
maintain
and
unfortunately,
bathrooms
fall
into
that
category
of
things
that
are
really
necessary,
but
we're
not
able
to
provide
from
provide
in
a
safe
manner
at
this
point.
But
but
we
can
include
that
that
comment
and
recommendation
in
our
master
plan.
A
I
we're
about
7
45
and
I
I
want
to
just
give
us.
You
know
start
thinking
about
wrapping
up,
so
I'm
going
to
unmute
jay
whittier
26,
one
more
time
and
and.
L
L
Hi
yeah,
I
just
wanted
a
comment
about
the
dog
park.
I've
been
a
dog
owner
for
13
years,
and
I
grew
up
here
and
the
having
a
dog
space
in
ringer
park
has
always
been
a
point
of
contention
in
our
neighborhood
because
of
the
use
of
the
baseball
softball
fields.
But
you
know
that's
in
dog
dog
owners
and
the
pets
that
we
have
are
really
important
to
this
community,
but
also
like
the
baseball
softball
park.
L
Whichever
is
called
you
know
has
been
taken
over
by
that
one
group
which
isn't
fair
to
the
kids
and
teams
that
used
to
frequent
that
space,
because
I've
been
around
here
for
so
long,
I'm
22
years
old
now
and
there
used
to
be
a
lot
more
kids
used
to
play
in
that
area
and
a
lot
of
people
don't.
And
I
think
that
you
know
there
is
always
been
a
need
for
there
to
be
a
space
for
dog
owners
to
congregate,
because
it
is
a
community.
L
H
A
You
all
right,
nancy
and
bob.
I'm
gonna,
allow
you
to
unmute
yourself.
I
Thank
you.
Could
you
go
to
the
slide
that
shows
pictures
of
existing
dog
parks?
Please,
okay,
locations.
I
Just
so
you
just
yourself,
this
is
my
question:
is
what
kind
of
surfaces
are
we
seeing
in
these
dogs?
Is
that
crushed,
rock
or
gravel
or.
A
Yeah,
so
the
peters
park
is
a
keystone
defilippo,
which
kyle's
office
worked
on
is
an
artificial
turf
actually
over
some
existing
brick,
that's
a
very
challenging
site.
The
east
first
street
is
is
a
gravel
that
is
called
a
rice
stone
and
that's
actually
what
we're
looking
to
to
replicate
at
smith
in
the
next
project.
I
Not
only
ten
thousand
and
hardiman
is
a
dog
park
commonly
known
as
tara
park.
A
We
used
to
have
a
policy
where
it
would
be
fundraised
by
a
friends
group.
That's
still
a
model
that
we
would
love
to
replicate.
If
there's
a
friends
group
that
would
like
to
come,
come
together
and
that
would
commit
to
maintaining
it
and
doing
you
know:
periodic
cleanups,
that's
a
great
model
to
replicate.
A
We
have
been
more
flexible
with
that
in
terms
of
having
a
a
strict
monetary
commitment
from
the
friends
group.
If
there
is
a
friends
group
that
comes
forward,
there
is
also
a
very
generous
foundation
that
is
specifically
interested
in
dog
parks,
which
we
have
installed
a
few
of
in
the
city
and
they
require
they.
They
match
up
quite
a
large
amount
of
funding.
A
Yeah,
so
that's
something
that
we
would
be
looking
toward
to
to
take
advantage
of
with
the
dog
park.
I
Switching
gears
briefly
for
my
final
comment:
promise
in
terms
of
the
court
lights,
several
people,
including
my
good
friend
and
neighbor
brianna,
mentioned
it-
helps
like
the
pathways,
but
in
all
due
respect.
That
is
not
their
purpose
and
it's
a
very
expensive
way
to
get
light
on
sidewalks.
G
A
A
Everybody
thank
you,
so
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
comments
that
there's
a
lot
of
really
juicy
information
in
here
and
we're
we're
capturing
it
all.
I
will
respond
to
specific
questions
in
the
in
the
coming
days.
So,
if
it's
more
than
just
a
comment,
I
will
I
will
respond
to
your
question.
If
it's
a
comment,
we
will
we're
capturing
all
of
that
we're
going
to
be
incorporating
that
into
our
feedback.
A
So
I
think
I
want
to
be
respectful
everyone's
time
we're
coming
up
on
eight
o'clock,
so
I
want
to
talk
about
next
steps
and
and
where
we're
going
next,
I
think
we
alluded
a
little
bit
to
it
that
we
have
some
more
work,
that
we
need
to
be
doing
to
confirm
the
size.
You
know
the
field,
the
recommendations
that
we're
making
for
the
field
and
that
will
help
us
narrow
down
the
list
of.
B
A
Of
sites
that
a
dog
park
could
fit
in
and
then
work
through
we're
continuing
to
work
through
the
courts
issue
and
see
if
there's,
if
we
just
leave
it
as
it
is,
and
that's
it
or
if,
if
there's
some
other
way,
we
can,
we
can
work
out
a
solution,
so
we
we
are
going
to
be
coming
back
with
those
final
recommendations:
late
winter,
21,
probably
march.
A
That's
what
I'm
thinking
and
this
presentation
is
on.
The
website
should
be
on
the
website
this
evening
or
check
tomorrow
morning.
So
you
can
send
that
link
to
to
friends.
You
can
scan
that
qr
code.
If
you're
super
handy
or
you
can
go
to
boston.gov,
I
usually
go
to
the
search
and
just
type
in
ringer
and
the
article
that
pops
up
is
the
website
and
please
contact
me
if
you
have
any
additional
questions,
kyle
and
danielle
before
I
wrap
up
entirely.
Do
you
guys
have
any
final
comments
or
thoughts.
C
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So,
on
the
project
website,
you'll
also
find
previous
meeting
information.
The
presentation
and
you
can
watch
the
previous
video
as
well.
We
put
in
presentation,
slides
and
later
on
this
week
or
early
next
week.
You
should
see
this
video
a
video
of
tonight
coming
up.
A
You
can
contact
me
at
kathy.baker
dash
eclipse
or
my
phone
by
617-961-3058.
You,
google
me
the
first,
I'm
the
only
kathy
baker
eclipse.
You
can
also
sign
up
for
parks,
emails
at
bit.
A
Emails,
I
can't
believe
we're
the
only
city
that
has
thought
of
that
bitly
or
use
three
one.
One
to
contact
the
parks
department
at
boston
parks,
dept,
is,
is
all
of
our
social
media
handles
it's
a
great
follow.
You
can
get
your
recommendations
on
your
your
reminders
about
community
meetings
so
check
out
all
of
those
as
well.
A
We
also
have
some
great
fitness
stuff.
That's
going
on
this
winter.
You
can
work
out
at
home.
I
have
not
signed
up
for
those
yet,
but
I
keep
meaning
to
so.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
joining
this
meeting.
It
was
really
helpful
for
us.
I
hope
it
was
also
helpful
for
you.
If
we
didn't
get
your
question
tonight,
I'm
going
to
respond
to
respond
to
those
in
the
coming
days.