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From YouTube: Public Garden Tool House Community Briefing #1
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November 9, 2022
A
A
Again,
thank
you
for
joining
us
tonight.
My
name
is
Nathan
Frazee
I'm,
a
project
manager
from
Boston
Parks
and
Recreation
Department
and
I'm,
working
along
with
public
facilities
on
the
public
garden
tool
house
and
with
that
get
started.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Helen.
B
Next
from
project
manager
for
Boston
public
facilities
and
I'm
overseeing
the
general
process
in
progress
of
this
exciting
project,
so
quick
note
regarding
the
recording
tonight,
the
Boston
practitioner
recreation
department
will
be
recording
the
meeting,
as
you
know,
and
we'll
post
to
a
project
web
page
for
those
who
are
unable
to
attend
the
zoom
meeting
this
evening.
It
is
also
possible
that
some
of
us
might
be
recording
the
meeting
with
their
phone
cameras
or
other
devices.
B
B
Regarding
the
virtual
meeting
etiquette,
we
want
to
ensure
this
conversation
is
a
pleasant
experience
for
all
and
that
the
community
members
and
stakeholders
are
comfortable
sharing
their
comments
and
questions
and
feedback.
Please
be
respectful
and
mindful
of
each
other's
time
when
asking
questions
and
providing
comments
so
that
we
all
can
we
are
able
to
participate
in
the
meeting,
keep
the
questions
and
comments,
Project,
Specific
and
not
personal,
to
yield
solution
during
discussion.
B
Please
wait
until
all
10
days
have
had
the
opportunity
to
ask
a
question
or
provide
a
comment
before
providing
additional
questions
and
comments,
and
then,
of
course,
you're
always
a
welcome
you
to
reach
out
to
to
me
in
gezinek
or
Nathan
Frazee.
If
you
have
any
further
questions
comments
or
want
to
extend
the
discussion
after
this
meeting
next.
A
So,
just
going
over
a
little
bit
of
Zoom
etiquette,
we
ask
that
everybody
stay
muted
during
the
presentation.
At
the
end
of
that,
we
will
have
a
question
and
answer
in
a
discussion
portion.
A
Anybody
that's
joining
in
by
phone,
which
I
don't
see
anybody
so
I'll
skip
that
during
the
presentation
you
can
feel
free
to
add
anything
into
the
chat
feature
we'll
do
our
best
to
answer
along,
but
anything
we
can't
answer
during
the
presentation,
we'll
we'll
make
sure
we
get
to
during
the
discussion
period
when
we
do
get
to
the
discussion
period.
We
ask
that
you
raise
your
hand
and
then
you'll
be
called
on
and
you
can.
We
can
set
it.
A
So
you
can
on
mute
and
then
please
mute
once
you're
done
answering
a
question
next,
so
just
going
over
the
project
team
again,
this
is
a
unique
project
and
that
you
have
both
parks
and
rec
and
public
facilities.
So
tonight
from
Parks
and
Rec,
you
have
myself
Nathan
Frazee,
but
we
also
have
Christine
brandeo,
who
is
our
Outreach
coordinator
and
she's,
helping
us
facilitate
the
meeting
and
Ellen
your
team.
B
Yeah
from
our
team,
so
we
have
Carrie
Griffin
our
director
Evan
Rickman,
our
assistant
director
of
design,
Dana
dimitio,
our
assistant
director
of
construction,
Angela,
Shan,
our
senior
review
architect
and
myself,
project
manager
and
I
think
also
Michelle
might
be
on
as
well
I.
Just
you
can't
quite
tell,
and
then
from
the
Consulting
team,
the
the
architectural
team.
We
have
Brett
Benson
principal
for
utl
architecture
and
planning,
Marisol
pero.
B
It's
actually
not
on
the
call,
but
it's
part
of
this
project,
she's
project
manager
and
then
Sherry
Yang
project
designer,
as
well
as
Kyle
zick
principal
for
Carl,
zick,
landscape
architecture.
Next,.
B
So
for
our
agenda
this
evening,
so
we
just
went
to
a
brief
introduction,
we'll
go
through
the
goals
and
schedule,
as
well
as
the
park,
Department
goals
and
objectives,
the
context,
the
history
and
existing
conditions,
future
opportunities
and
we'll
end
with
the
Q.
A
discussion.
Next.
A
So
the
the
goals
and
objectives
of
this
project
are
to
address
the
critical
repairs
to
the
that
are
needed
to
the
Aging
building.
It's
as
additionally
provide
a
maintenance
facility,
that's
sufficient
for
the
needs
of
the
public
garden
and
to
improve
the
interior
space
for
the
parts
department,
staff
and
Swan
Boats
team.
A
What
I
do
want
to
emphasize
is
that
this
is
a
maintenance
building
that
we
have
staff
that
operate
out
of
in
in
the
building
is
critical
for
them
to
provide
the
care
and
upkeep
of
the
public
garden
that
we
all
cherish
in
its
current
condition.
It's
very
difficult
for
them
to
do
that,
but
they've
been
super
resilient
and
resourceful
on,
allowing
utilizing
all
the
space
in
the
building
for
storage
and
all
that,
and
so
it's
at
a
point
now
that
you
know
looking
at
the
condition
of
it.
A
Then
it
really
needs
to
be
addressed
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
a
space
for
our
staff
that
is
safe
and
Humane
for
the
work
that
they
do
out
of
there.
So
it
is.
This
will
be
an
interesting
mix
of
both
the
community
input
for
the
exterior
and
the
interaction
with
the
building,
but
interior
and
operationally
that'll
be
done
in
a
way
that
meets
the
needs
of
the
staff.
C
Nation,
if,
if
you
don't
mind,
this
is
Kerry,
if
there
are
any
City
councilors
that
are
on
I,
think
I
see
Kenzie
Bach.
If,
if
you'd
like
to
say
a
couple
of,
if
you
would
like
to
have
a
minute
before
we
start
going
through
this.
D
D
Everyone,
and
really
thank
the
parks
and
PFD
team
for
scheduling
this.
The
friends
of
the
public
garden
and
lots
of
my
constituents
have
been
advocating
for
this
project
to
get
underway
for
a
while.
Now
I
see
Liz's
face
popping
up
in
the
frame
and.
D
We're
having
this
meeting
and
rolling
forward,
it's
obviously
an
iconic
building
in
the
middle
of
an
iconic
Park
and,
like
you
just
described
it
has
real
functional
like
role
in
that
Park
and
also,
of
course,
we
don't.
You
know,
we
don't
want
it
falling
down,
so
really
happy
to
be
here
and
yeah.
If
you
don't
mind
the
Indulgence,
if
my
colleague
at
rep
Livingstone
could
just
say
a
word
of
Welcome
as
well,
that'd
be
great.
E
D
E
Thanks
Jay
Livingstone
state
representative
yeah,
like
Kenzie
I'm
I'm,
excited
to
hear
about
this
any
Improvement
that
we
can
make
to
our
parks
and
giving
more
tools
to
the
crews
that
keep
them,
especially
the
public
garden
in
such
great
shape.
I
think
is
important.
I
look
forward
to
the
plan
and
hearing
people's
thoughts
on
it.
Thank
you.
B
Thanks,
so
here's
a
really
quick
visual
timeline,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
left
hand,
side
we
are
here
which
is
schematic
design
today
with
community
community
input.
So
with
our
was
your
information
and
further
development,
we'll
move
into
design
development,
which
is
the
refine
or
the
architectural
team
and
Consultants,
will
refine
the
design
and
progressed
into
construction
documentation.
We
will
have
another
Community
presentation
where
we
hope
to
present
the
design.
B
A
So
some
of
these
are
stock
images
that
you
know
from
our
parks
department
projects
which
deal
usually
with
open
space
in
the
Parks
themselves,
so
looking
at
these
I
won't
necessarily
read
them
verbatim,
but
just
under
look
looking
at
what
applies
to
the
actual
building
here,
you
know
certainly,
climate
resiliency
and
health.
A
The
building
right
now
is
incredibly
old
utilities
outdated,
inefficient.
So
we
want
to
make
we
want
to
any
improvements
we
do.
We
want
to
have
that
building
be
as
as
green
and
sustainable
as
possible.
Next.
A
And
so
Parks
Department
goals
and
priorities
again
really
driving
home
this
adapted
and
resilient
building
as
much
as
possible.
F
Great
well,
thank
you
Nate
and
Ellen,
and
thank
you
councilor
buck
and
representative
Livingstone
for
that
great
introduction.
I'm
going
to
start
by
reviewing
the
surrounding
context
of
the
tool
house
so
just
to
orient
everyone.
The
tool
house
is
located
in
the
public
garden
on
Charles
Street,
just
north
of
the
Edward
Everett
Hale
Monument,
and
as
so
many
of
you
on
the
call
tonight
know,
the
public
garden
is
an
extremely
active,
highly
programmed
yet
peaceful
refuge
in
the
Heart
of
the
City.
F
F
So
a
structure
in
the
location
of
the
current
tool
house
can
be
seen
on
the
maps
as
far
back
as
1866..
The
earliest
structure
may
have
been
one
of
the
public
garden
greenhouses.
As
seen
in
this
1882
Hopkins
map.
Note
that
the
pests
lead
visitors
in
one
end
and
out
the
other
by
1883.
The
structure
is
more
Square
in
form
and
the
paths
have
been
reconfigured
to
move
visitors
around
it
rather
than
through
it
and
by
1901.
The
square
structure
is
labeled,
as
the
ladies
Pavilion.
F
The
building
seen
in
that
1890
photograph
appears
to
be
a
similar
design
to
the
public.
Comfort
switch
station
quote
unquote
for
women
only
shown
in
this
1912
issue
of
engineering
review.
The
Comfort
stations
were
found
all
around
the
city
and
were
staffed
by
attendance.
You
can
even
see
the
table
specifies
the
hours
of
operation
and
the
number
of
attendance
required
and
in
1946
the
current
building
was
designed
by
architect,
Thomas
McDonough.
F
The
1946
plan
shows
seven
toilet
stalls
and
a
matron's
office
on
the
south
side
and
a
workshop
on
the
North
side.
The
building
was
designed
as
a
cement
block
structure
on
concrete
footings,
with
a
concrete
slab
on
grade
and
wood
ceiling
and
roof
structure.
Foreign
the
walls
had
no
insulation
and
they
included
wood
sheathing
plasters
ornamental
brackets.
Under
the
roof
line,
the
woodwork
is
all
applied,
sticks
or
boards
to
emulate
the
look
of
solid
Timber
framing,
perhaps
a
result
of
coastwar
material
shortages
and
the
slate
roof.
F
At
some
point,
between
1946
and
1997,
the
layout
of
the
building
was
changed
from
the
toilet
stalls
and
workshop
layout
to
the
current
layout.
The
only
major
exterior
alteration
to
the
building
occurred
in
1997
when
The
North
Door
that
provided
access
to
the
workshop
was
changed
from
a
double
Leaf
door
to
a
roll-up
garage
type
door.
F
This
is
a
floor
plan
of
the
building
as
it
is
used
today.
The
interior
is
shared
by
the
public
Garden
Park
staff
and
the
Swan
Boats
company.
Approximately
one-third
of
the
space
is
used
by
the
Swan
Boats,
with
the
remainder
used
by
Park
staff
and
equipment
and
about
half
of
the
parks
department
site
is
dedicated
to
equipment
storage.
F
The
only
office
space
about
the
size
of
a
small
bedroom
includes
space
for
the
maintenance
staff
Foreman
his
staff
and
a
couch
for
staff
to
sleep
on
during
overnight
snow
clearing
Duty
the
office
doesn't
even
have
a
window
looking
onto
the
public
garden,
there's
also
a
highly
used
outdoor
paved
area
between
the
tool
house
and
Charles
Street.
In
addition
to
staff
and
maintenance
Vehicles,
the
yard
includes
a
dumpster,
a
cabinet
for
flammable
materials,
a
heating
oil
tank,
a
shed
for
the
rose
Brigade
and
an
unused
water
pump
outside
of
the
yard.
F
So,
starting
with
the
exterior,
you
can
see
the
decorative
wood
trim,
profile
and
cupola
that
give
the
structure
its
character
on
the
south
side,
which
is
a
photo
to
the
left.
A
swinging
door
provides
access
into
the
swan
boat
side
of
the
building.
Note
that
the
door
is
a
few
steps,
Up
From,
the
Path,
so
it's
not
accessible
and
on
the
North
side,
the
photo
on
the
right.
A
roll-up
door
provides
the
only
access
to
the
Park's
maintenance
side
of
the
building.
F
Overall,
the
exterior
of
the
building
needs
significant
repairs,
the
slate
roof
and
the
associated
flashings
are
in
poor
condition.
The
roof
should
be
replaced
in
kind
with
slate
to
match
the
existing
with
copper,
flashings
and
downspouts.
There
is
extensive
deterioration
to
the
wooden
elements.
Some
of
the
pieced
together
decorative
elements
have
come
apart,
leaving
large
holes
for
squirrels
and
other
creatures
to
take
residence
inside
and
the
bottoms
of
the
vertical
sheathing
have
absorbed
water
over
the
years
and
some
have
deteriorated.
F
The
interior
of
the
Park's
garage
is
highly
organized,
making
use
of
all
the
space
available.
This
is
what
currently
takes
care
of
one
million
square
feet
of
park
space
and
a
roll-up
garage
door
is
the
only
access
in
and
out
of
the
building
for
Park
staff
in
the
middle
photograph.
You
can
see
the
small
office
where
staff
are
frequently
required
to
spend
the
night
during
the
winter
and
on
the
swan
boat
side.
Most
of
the
small
space
is
used
for
storage,
with
two
toilet
stalls
that
are
open
to
the
rest
of
the
space.
F
The
paved
area
behind
the
tool
house
is
as
tightly
packed
and
organized
as
the
interior.
There
is
a
single
dumpster
that
is
angled,
so
a
truck
can
pull
in
from
Charles
Street
and
empty
it,
and
you
can
see
there
is
no
way
to
close
off
the
yard
from
the
surrounding
Park.
So
visitors
frequently
wander
through
this
busy
staff
area,
a
20-foot
long
shipping
container
sits
outside
the
fenced
yard
and
houses
large
equipment
such
as
two
golf
carts,
which
is
used
to
pick
up
trash
from
trash
cans
around
the
public
garden.
G
Thanks
Brett,
so
the
tour
continues
thinking
about
the
setting
of
the
building.
So
what's
what's
particularly
interesting
about
the
way
the
building
is
located,
is
it
is
purpose,
I
think
purposefully
receding
and
it's
on
an
edge
of
the
landscape
and
it's
surrounded
by
specimen
trees.
It's
not
drawing
a
lot
of
attention
to
itself,
even
with
its
color,
but
there
are
fantastic,
beautiful
specimen
trees
surrounding
it.
G
Next
slide
and
attitude
related
to
the
landscape
is
also
a
parent
in
the
left-hand
photo
where
foundation
planting
of
shrubs
helps
to
mask
and
hide
the
building
even
further
the
right
hand,
image
shows
that
they're
bursting
at
the
seams.
You
know
they
have
bulk
materials
and
other
materials
and
Equipment
beyond
the
maintenance
yard
in
the
building,
and
some
of
them
are
winding
up
under
one
of
these
specimen
trees.
G
Next
slide,
the
maintenance
yard
itself
is
screened
with
a
wooden
fence.
The
public
facing
portion
of
that
is
generally
buffered
with
shrubs,
like
seen
on
the
right
hand,
side,
the
wood
fence
is
in
tough
shape.
There's
rot,
it's
been
hit
either
with
snow
removal.
It's
got
missing.
Boards
next
slide.
G
But
again
the
the
public
garden
has
this
Rich
palette
of
sight,
Furnishings
that
are
unified
benches,
with
Cobble
bench,
pads,
trash,
receptacles
and
lights.
These
all
that
pallet
materials
is
used
throughout
and
around
the
the
tool
house.
Building
next
slide
and
what's
interesting
about
that
unified
palette
of
materials
is
the
walkways
are
the
same
within
the
public
garden
and
they
extend
right
up
to
the
building
on
two
sides
and
that
can
be
a
little
confusing
for
the
public,
because
they're
attracted
to
this
building
thinking,
there's
public
facilities
of
some
type.
G
The
sidewalks
on
Charles
Street
are
brick
and
they're
in
tough
shape,
they're
settled
and
eved
and
they're
because
of
the
Cross
slope,
aren't
handicapped,
accessible.
F
Great
thanks
Kyle,
so
there
are
a
number
of
opportunities
with
the
renovation
of
the
tool
house
we're
going
to
present
a
few
of
our
initial
thoughts
in
the
following
slides
and
we'd,
really
love
to
hear
more
from
all
of
you
during
the
Q.
A
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
so
first
is
to
improve
the
storage
and
facilitate
maintenance.
As
it
stands,
the
maintenance
needs
of
the
public
garden.
As
Kyle
said
they
are
literally
bursting
from
the
seams
and
with
renovation
we
see
an
opportunity
to
collect
the
storage
and
maintenance
fund
maintenance
functions.
F
Excuse
me
within
a
better
organized
envelope.
Second,
we
see
an
opportunity
to
improve
the
interior
spaces
for
both
the
parks
department
and
the
Swan
Boats
for
the
parks
department.
We
can
provide
a
more
Humane
work
environment,
one
that
meets
the
needs
of
the
staff
and
provides
a
view
of
the
park
they
are
charged
with,
maintaining
and
for
the
Swan
Boats.
F
Providing
a
safe
and
secure
storage
and
office
space
that
isn't
literally
inside
a
toilet
stall
would
be
a
tremendous
Improvement
and
next
providing
Canadian
access
to
the
exterior
would
be
a
huge
Improvement
for
Park
staff.
Every
time
they
want
to
go
outside
or
every
time
someone
knocks
on
the
door,
they
have
to
roll
up
the
garage
door
that
takes
time
and
it
wastes
a
tremendous
amount
of
energy
in
the
winter
freezing
air
floods,
the
space
every
time
the
doors
opened
and
providing
a
better
way
to
get
outside
directly
impacts,
Energy
Efficiency.
F
So
in
combination
with
modernized
all-electric
systems,
we
will
be
exploring
on-site,
renewable
energy
options
to
minimize
the
building's
energy
use
and
then
looking
beyond
the
direct
footprint
of
the
building.
We
will
also
be
looking
at
clarifying
the
pathway,
Pathways
that
lead
to
the
tool
house.
We
want
to
address
the
current
layout
that
really
invites
visitors
to
the
building,
which
creates
a
distraction
for
the
maintenance
staff
and
increases
the
potential
for
a
dangerous
interaction
with
the
equipment
stored
there,
and
we
want
to
protect
important
trees
in
the
garden
around
the
tool
house.
H
Okay,
thank
you
first,
thank
you.
So
much
for
doing
this
work.
We've
met
before
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate,
our
being
so
thrilled
Friends
of
the
public
garden
that
this
is
underway.
That
focus
is
being
put
under
this
building.
It's
one.
H
That's
been
slowly
and
quietly
deteriorating
before
our
very
eyes
over
here,
and
you
know,
I'd
love
to
have
you
I
know
that
you're
not
ready
to
show
us
Alternatives
or
you
know,
options
because
you
have
stressed-
and
it's
absolutely
true-
that
this
place
is
bursting
at
the
scene
because
it
was
a
bathroom
building.
It
was
not
built
for
a
maintenance
function.
It's
trying
to
do
something
that
needs
to
do
that.
It
was
never
intended
to
do
so.
H
We
have
that
rear
Courtyard
area
which
is
full
of
cars
and
and
some
other
storage
containers.
How
do
we
maximize
the
space
in
this
building?
How
do
we
provide
as
much
as
possible
for
the
maintenance
function
and
not
move
back
out
into
the
yard
or
or
you
know,
there's
only
so
much
square
footage
that
you
can
play
with
so
do
you
have
any
thoughts
about
how
you
can
you
know?
H
F
Well,
I'll,
I'll
start
and
then
Nate
can
continue.
I
mean
I,
think
everything
is
on
the
table
right
now,
Liz
thanks.
So
much
for
your
comment
and
and
for
your
comments,
I'm
leading
up
to
this
as
well.
You
have
been
a
great
resource
for
information
for
us
to
get
to
this
point
so
looking
forward
to
continue
to
engage
with
you
and
the
rest
of
the
friends.
F
I
think
everything
is
on
the
table
in
terms
of
thoughts
about
really
how
to
optimize
what
we
have.
You
know.
As
he
pointed
out,
it
is
a
tiny
little
footprint
to
take
care
of
so
much
Park
and
there's
only
so
much
space
with
the
historic
building
that
we
have.
F
We
do
think
that
the
that
maintenance
yard
is
going
to
be
a
good
opportunity
for
us
and
we
want
to
be
super
thoughtful
about
how
we
can
make
most
efficient
use
of
that
space
have
a
lot
of
conversations
with
Sammy
and
the
entire
staff,
as
well
as
the
rose
Brigade
and
the
Border
Brigade
and
the
friends
to
really
understand
how
the
park
is
taken
care
of,
so
that
we
can
maximize
that
the
space
that's
allocated
to
it.
Without
detracting
from
the
experience
of
the
garden.
A
Well
said,
yeah
and
I
I,
don't
have
anything
to
add
to
that
other
than
for
Brett's
comment.
You
know
really
at
this
point
anything
is
on
the
table
to
make
it
function
as
best
as
possible,
and
certainly
all
of
those
have
to
fit
the
context
in
in
landmarks
review,
so
we'll
be
pushing
those
to
see
what
is
the
best
solution
for
all
all
involved.
I
Hi,
it
seems
to
me
that
this
building
is
being
used
a
lot
as
a
garage,
and
it's
not
really
a
garage.
It's
it's
more
of
a
building,
and
is
it
impractical
to
think
of
building
some
kind
of
sympathetic
garage
to
be
the
garage
portion
of
the
of
the
Park
needs
in
the
parking
lot?
I.
Also
wonder
if
parking
is
needed,
since
it's
across
the
street
from
a
huge
parking
lot
it
couldn't
it?
Could
the
people
who
use
the
parking
Park
in
the
common
garage
I
mean?
I
I
I
know
there
are
some
proposed
for
the
common
in
the
in
the
new
plan,
but
I
wonder
if
this
little
building
could
be
reconfigured
so
that
there
were
a
couple
of
public
bathrooms,
the
room
for
the
Swan
boat
people
and
then
some
office
space
for
the
parks,
people
and
then
the
Garage
space.
That
was
more
working
area
and
I'll
go
with
that.
A
Those
are
all
excellent
points.
I
can
I'll
speak
first
to
the
parking
in
the
garage.
That
is
something
we
are
exploring.
Currently,
we
do
store
some
equipment
over
there.
That
already
exceeds
the
space
we
have
here.
So
there
is
some
storage
over
there,
but
we
are
looking
at
them
as
an
as
a
possible
option
to
alleviate
some
of
the
cars
that
congest
that
space.
There
is
a
need
for
at
least
a
few
of
those
spaces
to
stay
there,
just
from
a
security
and
access
standpoint.
A
Speaking
with
and
and
Lynn
can
speak
to
this
a
little
bit,
maybe
from
the
swan
boat
standpoint
in
the
ability
to
bring
be
able
to
drop
off
and
pick
up
as
well
as
transfer
of
some
of
their
resources,
it's
really
imperative
to
the
ability
to
have
a
car
there
for
them
to
have
safe
access
and
exit
in
then
I'll
speak
to
the
facilities
standpoint.
Obviously,
as
you
saw,
this
is
a
very
finite
space
here,
so
realistically,
without
a
larger
expansion
of
this.
A
That
most
likely
is
not
the
ability
to
have
public
facilities
here,
because
with
public
facilities
we
also
need
a
vending
service
or
a
Management
Service
that
can
help
keep
those
facilities
clean
and
operated,
and
so
once
you
start
to
add,
you
know
the
the
that
space,
along
with
the
facilities,
it
really
exceeds
the
size
that
we
have
here.
As
you
mentioned,
we
do
have
a
proposal
for
facilities
directly
across
the
Charles
Street
crossing,
so
by
proximity.
A
F
Sure
I
mean
I
think
that
that's
a
great
idea
and
Marjorie
I
appreciate
all
of
your
comments.
I
think
there's
they're
spot
on
in
a
way
this
is.
There
are
a
lot
of
puzzle
pieces
that
we're
moving
around
on
the
site
within
a
very
finite
as
Nate
said
area,
so
to
the
extent
that
we
can
take
some
of
the
pressure
off
of
that
maintenance
yard
by
relocating
a
parking
spot
or
two
that
that
might
open
up
additional
opportunities
for
us
within
the
maintenance
yard.
F
We're
absolutely
going
to
be
looking
at
that
and
I
really
appreciate
that
comment.
You
know
we're
still
very
much
in
the
kind
of
information
gathering
phase
and
we're
trying
to
get
an
inventory
of
all
the
types
of
uses
and
the
equipment,
and
that
are
happening
now
and
try
to
be
forward
thinking
about
what
the
park
is
going
to
need
in
the
future,
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
provide
a
maintenance
facility
that
doesn't
work
just
for
today,
but
is
going
to
work
for
many
years
to
come.
So
thanks
for
the
comment.
A
Right,
we
also
have
a
comment
in
a
question
in
the
comment
period
in
the
comment
section
that
says
what
happens
to
the
existing
functions
uses
during
the
renovation.
That's
Colin
zick
is
asking
that
I
Brett.
Do
you
want
to
take
your
initial
stab
at
that.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
we
will
absolutely
part
of
this
plan
is
going
to
have
to
think
very
carefully
about
the
sequencing
of
any
renovation
work
so
that
maintenance
can
continue
to
function
throughout
the
duration
of
any
construction
project.
F
That's
something
that
we'll
also
be
exploring
as
part
of
this
plan
and
we're
going
to
work
very
closely
with
Nate
in
the
parks
department
and
especially
Sammy
as
well
to
think
about
what
is
the
kind
of
interim
condition
for
maintenance
before
the
renovation
is
complete.
But
it's
a
great
point:
Thank
You
Colin.
J
Hi
thanks
so
much
for
inviting
the
public
to
join
I,
appreciate
it
and
really
I'm
I
was
fascinated
to
come
across
this
building.
Lately
I
walked
my
dog
in
the
park
there
often
and
I,
see
this
structure
and
I
really
had
no
idea
what
it
was
being
really
used
for
so
appreciate.
The
transparency
and
sort
of
the
the
struggles
that
you
guys
are
undergoing
probably
I,
did
put
out
a
request
onto
next
door.
It's
a
neighborhood,
app
and
and
then
notified
people.
J
Last
night
of
this
meeting
and
I
did
get
a
couple
comments
back.
I'll
I'll
probably
put
the
grandiose
idea
out
there.
If
you
would,
somebody
had
mentioned
and
I
think
it
would
be
kind
of
neat,
but
I
understand
the
confines
of
the
the
surface
area
that
you're
working
with
and
and
maintaining
its
historical
perspective.
But
you
know
there
was
an
interest
for
sort
of
a
cafe
or
sort
of
an
interactive.
J
You
know
either
you
know
juice
bar
or
something
that
you
know
could
have
a
little
of
you
know
food
or
libation,
available
to
people.
There
is
water
in
the
park,
but-
and
you
know,
but
it
would
be
nice-
maybe
kind
of
like
the
Owl's
Nest
idea,
but
that
might
be
a
little
bit
too
far
out
there.
So
I
realize
I'm
gonna
get
some
backlash
on
this
one,
but
you
know
the
Owl's
Nest
idea,
though
that
is
going
pretty
well
over
I
think
on
the
Esplanade.
J
So
that's
kind
of
the
grandiose
idea,
but
I
do
want
a
second
marjorie's
request
and
I
think
this
also
is
sort
of
to
support
the
cleanliness
of
the
park
is
the
need
for
restrooms
and
to
really
reduce
you
know,
people
that
are
are
not
using
the
park
to
what
it's
intended
for
an
emergency
sees
when
there's
no
bathroom
nearby.
J
So
to
put
it
politely,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
that
I
think
at
least
restrooms
would
be
really
nice
to
have
and
I
understand
it
comes
with
added
infrastructure
and
cost
and
maintenance,
but
I
think
that
it
might
outweigh
some
of
the
unpleasant
things
that
we
do
come
across
in
the
park,
but
I'll
I'll
stop
there
and
the
other.
Another
idea
would
be
to
potentially
maybe
have
a
little
small
children's
book
exchange
program
there.
J
A
A
D
C
A
K
Okay,
Matt
Brett
has
commented
in
a
previous
meeting,
but
I
just
wanted
to
see.
If
I
can
follow
up
and
ask
to
what
extent
you
might
have
been
able
to
uncover
any
constraints
that
might
impact
the
project
that
emanate
from
the
National
Park
Service
and
the
status
historic,
a
place
of
status
of
the
park
and
the
building.
F
So
I
can
start
and
Nate
you
can
probably
fill
in
some
of
the
details.
We
are
expecting
that
there
will
be
a
National,
Park
Service
review
component
to
whatever
we
collectively
decide
to
move
forward
with,
as
well
as
a
local
Boston
landmarks
review
process
as
well.
It's
a
important
historic
place.
So
there
will
be
a
lot
of
eyes
on
us
as
we
move
forward,
but
I
think
all
for
the
better
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
making
the
right
decisions.
F
But
there
will
be
plenty
of
opportunity
for
review
and
comment
in
public
forums
such
as
the
landmarks
commission
and
for
oversight
agencies
as
well.
K
F
There
so
the
National
Park
Service
and
in
the
department
of
interior,
publish
guidelines
on
if
there's
new
construction
relative
to
Landmark
or
historic
buildings,
how
you
should
articulate
new
construction
versus
the
historic
material
and
we'll
absolutely
be
following
that
guidance
that
has
been
a
kind
of
has
been
guiding
principles
for
Architects
as
they
work
with
historic
structures
for
decades
now,
and
if
we
contemplate
new
construction,
we
would
certainly
be
following
those
as
well.
K
Is
I
think
I
had
an
understanding
but
I,
don't
know
whether
it's
accurate
that
there's
also
classifications
for
structures
in
in
the
park,
I
I,
which
would
apply
to
this
particular
building
and
I.
Wonder
if,
if
that's,
if
that's
accurate,
that
there's
a
classification
of
support
structure
or
something
like
that,
that
probably
has
some
significance
in
the
guidelines.
F
It
might
I
think
it
will.
A
lot
of
it
will
depend
on
the
level
of
changes
that
we
might
contemplate.
I
think
our
initial
take
is
that
the
building
as
I
said
well,
not
the.
F
Structure
on
the
state
site
is
still
historic
in
its
own
right
at
nearly
80
years
old,
and
so
we
need
to
give
it
it's
due
respect
in
that
regard.
So
I
don't
think
we're
contemplating
major
changes
to
that
historic
structure,
but
there
might
be
others.
You
know
based
on
ideas
that
have
come
up
tonight
and
that
others,
you
know,
might
give
us
feedback
through
emailing
nadereln
that
we
would
take
into
consideration
as
well.
F
I
guess,
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
it's
probably
a
little
too
early
to
be
specific
about
what
the
criteria
will
be
until
we
have
a
better
idea
of
how
we
would
move
forward
there.
K
Had
been
some
preliminary
indication
that
evaluation
of
the
deterioration
of
the
building
was
so
far
along,
that
was
the
impression
I
had
was
it
was
a
strong
consideration
was
being
given
to
new
build
is,
is
that
is
that
on
the
table?
Still
so.
F
Structural
soundness
is
one
of
those
criteria
that
that
landmarks
folks
would
look
at
in
terms
of
determining
whether
a
new
construction
or
demolition
would
be
warranted.
I.
Think,
in
our
case,
what
we
found
is
that
the
deterioration
is
primarily
aesthetic
and
not
structural
I.
K
A
Yeah
and
just
to
build
on
that
too,
as
Brett
had
showed
earlier,
some
of
the
structural
component
of
this
building
is
the
fact
that
it's,
it's
really
a
masonry
block,
building,
that's
cladded
with
the
wood
right,
so
the
block
interior,
which
is
providing
the
structural
support
for
everything,
is
still
sound
with
that
being
said
in
the
guidelines
on
construction
and
renovation
to
historic
buildings,
this
is
a
very
unique
project
in
that
it's
a
replication
of
a
previous
one,
so
it
is
not
as
as
Brett
showed
earlier,
it's
not
the
1800s
building,
it's
a
replica
of
that,
so
it
it
will
be.
A
There
will
be
a
process
of
working
with
them
on
how
those
guidelines
apply
to
this
building,
because
it
is
a
bit
unique
and
then
it
it's.
It
is
a
replica
in
and
of
itself,
but,
as
Brett
mentioned,
there's
still
significance
to
that.
So
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
simple
cut
and
dry.
Applying
those
I
think
it's
going
to
be
working
with
them
in
working
through
the
review
and
and
working
with
the
preservation
groups
to
see
what
is
appropriate
here.
A
K
That's
great
and
I
and
I,
maybe
I
could
just
add
to
us
the
thought
about
the
functionality
of
the
building.
For,
for
probably
everyone
who
is
alive.
This
building
has
been
the
only
thing
they've
seen
in
the
in
the
in
the
garden
and
it
one
of
the
functions
of
being
seen.
Is
it's
ornamental
contribution
to
the
experience
of
you
know
the
very
fine
landscape,
and
so
in
it
some
of
that.
K
Some
of
the
features
exterior
features
decorative
features
that
some
might
consider
historic,
really
there's
a
functionality
to
that
which
is
that's,
what
makes
it
a
beautiful,
a
beautiful
building
in
the
in
the
beautiful
landscape
and
so
that
aesthetic
functionality
is
a
part
of
you
know
the
whole
laundry
list
of
functions
which
I'm
sure
you're,
giving
some
attention
to
absolutely.
A
Yeah
great
point
and
thank
you
for
those
comments
and
and
input
Kenzie
councilor
Bach
asked
in
the
chat
if
we
could
go
through
the
timeline
again
so
Brett.
Do
you
mind
flipping
back
through
that
sure
I'm
gonna
apologize
for
flipping
through
all
the
slides,
real
quick
here,
yeah.
A
Great
thanks
Ellen:
do
you
want
to
speak
to
this
I
think
and
I
and
I
can
just
chime
in
right
before
she
does
I.
This
is
intentionally
a
little
vague,
and
some
of
that
goes
back
to
Tim's
excellent
points
here
is
that
it's
hard
to
put
a
definitive
timeline
on
on
how
some
of
these
conversations
and
designs
are
going
to
play
out,
because
there's
a
lot
of
key
players
that
we
have
to
have
involved
in
this,
so
it
Ellen
can
can
speak
to
these.
A
But
the
the
one
thing
is,
we
just
don't
want
to
put
pre
predetermined
time
restrictions
on
any
of
these,
and
we
want
to
be
as
forthcoming
with
you
all
about
this
process
that
and
set
expectations
as
as
realistic
as
possible.
B
Yes,
agree:
Nation
thanks,
so
we
are
in
schematic
design
like
we
mentioned
earlier,
and
of
course,
with
tonight's
input.
B
I
know,
Brett's
team
Consultants
will
continue
to
develop
a
program
and
a
building
and
our
our
next
steps
here
will
be
to
come
back
in
design
development
to
present
a
fully
maybe
a
couple
or
building
plan
and
options
and
we're
hoping
that
will
be
this
winter
and
following
that
presentation
we'll
be
moving
into
and
then
following
many
other
discussions
as
Nathan
mentioned,
there
will
be
a
lot
of
input
from
different
organizations
and
different
entities,
we'll
be
hoping
to
move
into
construction
documentation
being
of
next
year
or
mid
next
year,
and
then
again
that.
B
That
is
a
little
bit
of
an
unknown
at
the
moment
in
terms
of
when
the
construction
could
also
happen.
It's
going
to
be
potentially
dependent
on
timeline
and
weather
seasons,
so
we'll
keep
them
in
mind,
but
our
goal
is
to
keep
everybody
informed
and
post
any
new
information
on
the
web
page.
So
everybody
is
aware
of
the
progress
of
the
project.
A
Right
with
that
being
said,
we
do
have
a
project
page
for
this.
You
should
have
seen
that
on
the
registration
as
well
as
by
registering
for
this
meeting,
we
now
have
your
email
contacts,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
you'll
get
meeting
notes
from
this,
as
well
as
notification
for
future
meetings.
A
So
I
did
have
councilor
Buck
added
additional
comments.
I'm
gonna
just
read
out
loud
just
to
make
sure
everybody
does
see
and
can
can
hear
at
some
points
in
Prior
years.
Folks
have
suggested
an
interpretive
element
here.
I
think
that
goes
back
to
some
other
comments
earlier,
but
it
sounds
like
you're,
leaning
towards
making
it
more
functional
spot
for
Parker
operations
and
not
really
aiming
to
attract
Park
goers.
They
do.
A
She
does
wonder
if
at
least
an
interpretive
plaque
Etc
on
the
wall
might
help
with
some
of
the
Curiosity
and
then
Christine
added
the
tool
how
the
project
web
page
no
no
worries
Kenzie
I'm
more
than
happy
to
to
verbally
articulate
it
I
Brett.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
that,
because
I
know
we
have
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
the
exterior
of
the
building
facing
the
park
does
have
basically
rules?
A
F
Absolutely
I
mean
I
think
it's
a
great
comment
and
I
think
councilor
Bach.
That
comment
in
combination
Tim
with
your
comment
earlier
about
the
aesthetic
of
the
tool
house
being
an
important
contributing
component
to
the
overall
aesthetic
of
the
park
and
the
overall.
This
experience
of
the
park
is
a
good
one
and
in
a
way
they
can
kind
of
work
together.
This
idea
of
signage
and
the
aesthetic
of
the
building
really
kind
of
amplifying
and
enforcing
that
historic
nature
of
the
park
is
something
we
will
absolutely
be
working
with.
F
Looking
at
and
I
think
that
in
combination
was
something
that
Kyle
pointed
out,
which
is
that
the
pathways
right
now
really
invite
people
up
to
the
building
and
make
it
look
like
something
that
is
open
to
the
public
despite
its
very
pure
maintenance
function,
and
so
that's
a
real
design
challenge
for
us
to
work
out
is
how
do
we
position
signage?
How
do
we
clarify
the
use
of
the
building
and
the
aesthetic
of
the
building?
So
it
is
both
continues.
F
It's
very
vital
maintenance
function
for
the
park,
but
also
contributes
to
the
experience
of
it.
So
we're
you
know
we're.
Looking
forward
to
developing
some
ideas
around
that
to
share
with
you
at
our
next
meeting
but
I
think
it's
a
you
know:
they're
both
really
excellent
observations
and
and
one
that
we're
going
to
be
working
on
in
the
weeks
ahead.
G
Think
Brett
said
it
really
well
and
I.
Think
the
the
maintenance
component
and
the
public
visitation
component
is
the
challenge
here
and
we
have
to
make
sure
it's
safe
from
a
perspective
of
the
people
working
there
and
you
know
moving
a
skid
steer
backing
up.
You
know
moving
lawn
mowers
in
and
out
and
the
public
that
might
be
attracted
to
the
area.
So
that's
something
we're
going
to
look
at
real
hard.
E
Yeah
thanks
well,
first
thanks
again
for
doing
this.
This
process,
it
sounds
like
you're
being
very
thoughtful
about
the
historic
nature
of
the
building
in
the
park,
as
I'd
expect.
E
A
A
So
Brett
did
highlight
that
obviously
contextually
where,
where
this
lands
there's
a
Crossroads
of
paths,
crosswalks,
there's
the
bike
lane
there's
the
cars
that
come
in
and
exit
in
and
out
of
this.
So
at
this
point,
I,
don't
think
we're
necessarily
confining
that
to
a
designated
park
space,
some
of
that's
going
to
be
from
what
we
get
from
feedback
from
Community
users
about
you
know
the
thoughts
and
and
space
around
that
and
in
essence,
we
want.
A
We
want
to
create
a
space
that
surrounds
us
that
works
for
everybody
and
so
rather
than
predetermining
the
extents
of
this.
Obviously
it
can't
be
the
entire
public
garden,
but
at
this
point
we
we
didn't
want
to
restrict
it
down
to
anything
that,
may
you
know
eliminate
some
input
that
we
would
be
getting.
A
Oh
councilor
Bach,
but
what's
the
basement
situation
here?
How
deep
is
the
foundation
of
the
building
and
is
digging
out
underground
a
potential
piece
of
getting
you
more
space
recognizing
that
separates
separate
from
the
potential
of
adding
garage
like
structure
Brett?
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
the
foundation
sure.
F
So
the
foundation
is
a
very
simple
slab
on
grade.
It
is
unusual
in
that
it
is
stepped,
so
even
within
the
building,
it
is
not
a
flat
space.
So
thinking
about
accessibility,
internal
to
it,
is
one
component
of
what
we'll
be
studying.
Your
point.
Counselor
block
is
a
really
good
one.
In
addition
to
thinking
about
going
down,
we
thought
about
going
up
into
the
attic
space.
We
are
very
challenged.
F
The
footprint
of
the
building
is
quite
small,
and
so,
when
we
think
about
expanding
the
amount
of
footprint
that
we
would
have
by
either
going
down
or
capturing
some
space
in
the
Attic,
we
also
have
to
consider
how
we
would
get
there,
whether
it's
by
a
stair
or
an
internal
elevator,
and
as
we
have
started
thinking
about
that,
you
know
it's
just
it's
a
kind
of
trade-off
between
the
floor
area
that
we
allocate
to
that
vertical
circulation
versus
the
floor
area
that
we
take
away.
F
That
would
be
available
right
at
grade,
but
it
is
something
we'll
continue
to
look
at
as
we
get
deeper
into
our
study
and
probably
one
that
we
owe
everybody
the
next
time
we
come
back
to
to
show
different
options
for
how
that
would
look.
A
Great,
thank
you
any
other
hands
hand
raising
or
comments.
A
Not
seeing
any,
as
mentioned
earlier
in
the
presentation,
if
you
did
not
speak
or
for
whatever
reason,
certainly
feel
free
to
email,
Ellen
or
myself
and
we'll
make
sure
any
of
your
input
is
added
to
the
media
minutes.
A
We
will
be
issuing
meeting
minutes
and
posting
the
presentation
to
the
project
page
that
Christine
had
shared
out
in
the
chat
we
do
anticipate
as
as
Brett
just
mentioned.
Coming
back
to
you
guys
with
some
of
the
proposals
of
how
the
space
may
may
be
redesigned
in
a
way
that
Works
both
for
the
Swan
Boats,
Swan
boat
team,
our
maintenance
facility
team
and
the
public
in
ural's
comment.
A
So
we
do
anticipate
coming
back
in
this
winter
winter
time
period
and
we'll
be
sure
to
share
out
ahead
of
that
meeting
and
when
that
is
when
that
is
planned.