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From YouTube: Cutillo Park Design Meeting #3 May 27, 2021
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Cutillo Park Design Meeting #3 May 27, 2021
A
Welcome
everybody
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
for
the
third
catillo
park
community
meeting.
My
name
is
lauren
bryant
for
those
I
haven't
met
yet,
and
I'm
the
project
manager
for
this
project
for
boston
parks.
Before
we
jump
into
the
presentation,
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
few,
how
to's
and
what
to
expect
interpretation
was
not
requested
for
this
meeting,
so
this
meeting
is
going
to
be
in
english.
Only,
however,
for
other
city
meetings,
interpretation
is
available
for
free
upon
request.
A
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
that
the
meeting
tonight
is
being
recorded
and
is
going
to
be
available
on
the
project
website
within
about
a
week.
So
please
let
any
of
your
friends
or
neighbors
who
couldn't
join
us
tonight
know
that
they
can
view
the
presentation
and
still
provide
feedback,
even
if
they
weren't
here
next
slide.
Please
kevin.
A
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
the
conversation
feels
accessible
to
everyone
and
that
each
of
you
feels
comfortable
sharing
your
questions
and
comments.
Please
be
respectful
and
mindful
of
others
time
so
that
everybody
has
the
opportunity
to
participate
so
feel
free
to
set
up
a
conversation
with
me
separately.
If
you'd
like
to
as
well,
and
I'm
going
to
put
my
email
in
the
chat
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
have
it.
A
A
So
on
to
the
project
now,
hopefully,
that's
all
the
housekeeping
information
that
we
need
to
go
through.
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
again
for
your
time
tonight.
We
know
how
hard
it
is
to
take
time
for
community
meetings
and
that
everybody's
feeling
needing
fatigue-
and
it
is
nice
outside
so
really
really
appreciate
your
time
tonight.
A
A
So
if
anybody
joined
a
little
bit
late
again,
my
name
is
lauren
bryant
and
the
project
manager
for
boston
parks.
For
this
exciting
park
renovation,
christine
brandeo,
is
also
with
us
from
the
city
and
she's
our
community
outreach
coordinator,
and
thank
you
christine
for
putting
that
link
in
the
chat
for
me,
then
the
design
team
tonight
it's
the
team
from
stantec
who
you
guys
have
met
before
and
tonight
we
have
kevin
beutel
and
adam
faring
with
us.
A
So
also
want
to
make
sure
people
know
that
this
meeting
is
specifically
for
the
catillo
park
renovation
and
as
much
as
we're
aware
of
the
adjacent
proposed
hotel
development
next
to
the
park.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
community
knows
that
this
meeting
is
not
for
the
hotel
that
it's
for
the
park.
A
We
kicked
off
the
park
project
process
back
on
march,
4th
with
our
first
community
meeting
via
zoom
and
then
had
our
second
on
april
13th
those
meetings.
We
really
talked
about
the
analysis
of
the
park
and
shared
several
design
concepts
with
you
and
took
a
lot
of
feedback
for
things
that
you
guys
are
interested
in
things.
B
Thanks
lauren
again,
I'm
kevin
vutel
landscape,
architect
with
stantec.
So
for
those
of
you
that
aren't
aware,
cattillo
park
is
located
here
at
the
southern
end
of
the
north
end
of
boston,
it's
between
stillman
street
and
morton
street
close
to
salem
street.
I
don't
work
too
far
away
and
I've
gotten
lunch
on
salem
street
many
times
had
no
idea.
This
park
was
here
it's
hidden
away
on
those
kind
of
classic
small
or
narrow
north
end
streets,
so
kind
of
a
nice
neighborhood
gem
of
the
park.
B
B
It's
a
little
over
a
quarter
acre
in
size,
so
pretty
small
and
then
for
program
space.
The
basketball
court
really
takes
up
a
lot
of
the
park
currently,
but
there's
also
some
play
equipment
and
some
swings
so
that
program
space
is
about
two-thirds
of
their
overall
park
area
and
then
the
remaining
passive
space.
You
know
about
a
third
of
it
with
seating
and
some
four
square.
That's
painted
on
the
pavement
surface.
B
When
we
started
our
analysis
and
our
design
work,
we
wanted
to
understand
what
was
located
around
cattillo.
So
we
looked
at
the
whole
north
end
area
to
look
at
you
know
where
their
playgrounds,
what
kind
of
age
ranges
do
those
playgrounds
you
know
address
what
kind
of
court
facilities
are
in
the
area
and
what
kind
of
dog
parks
are
around
us
in
the
north
end.
B
We
were
also
also
asked
to
maintain
or
preserve
seating,
particularly
for
older
residents.
You
know,
comfortable
seating
with
backs
and
arm
rests,
preserve
the
trees,
keep
things
open
and
visible.
So
we're
aware
that
there's
some
undesirable
activity
that
can
happen
in
the
park,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
park
is
as
open
and
inviting
as
possible,
and
I
guess
I
should
say
you
know.
On
that
front.
B
We
have
been
talking
with
the
boston
police
department,
so
we
are
planning
on
putting
in
multiple
security
cameras
and
connecting
that
to
the
boston
police
system.
As
part
of
this
project-
and
I
know
from
our
early
conversations
with
the
boston
police
department,
they've
said
that
you
know
putting
those
cameras
in
has
been
very
effective,
so
they're
aware
when
those
sorts
of
undesirable
activities
are
happening,
they
can
go
out
to
the
site
and
they
said
pretty
quickly.
B
B
As
far
as
you
know,
improvements
we
talked
about
improving
circulation
through
the
park,
including
improving
accessibility,
ada
and
mav.
Access
in
the
park
want
to
improve
the
quality
of
the
courts
that
are
there
and
also
improve
lighting
and
visibility.
So
there
is
some
lighting
in
the
park
now
and
we'd
be
looking
to
upgrade
that
or
maybe
not
upgrade
exactly,
but
you
know
modernize
it
so
put
in
new
lights
and
then
an
increase
for
things
to
increase.
B
You
know
some
greenery,
so
we
want
to
you
know
if
we
have
opportunities
to
add
more
vegetation.
In
we'd
like
to
do
that,
as
long
as
it
doesn't
block
visibility
and
then
we'd
really
like
to
increase
the
number
of
visitors
in
the
park,
just
get
more
people
more
eyes
in
the
park,
make
it
more
of
an
active
park
which
I
think
will
make
it.
B
So
one
of
the
questions
we
asked
is:
what
do
you
currently
like
to
do
at
catillo
and
so
kind
of
the
passive
you
know,
sitting
and
relaxing
was
very
popular,
as
you
can
see,
as
well
as
using
the
playground
equipment
and
then
about
an
even
split
among
the
respondents.
We
got
for
dog,
walking
playing
basketball
using
the
cord
for
other
purposes
or
just
general
miscellaneous
purposes
in
the
park
which
entrance
do
people
enter
from
most
often
so
stillman
street
is
by
far
the
most
most
common
way.
B
Of
the
respondents,
most
people
preferred
the
half
court
to
the
full
court
and
that's
one
of
the
you
know.
Lauren
mentioned
we
had
some
specific
questions
for
people
tonight.
That
is
one
of
the
specific
questions
and
we
have
two
concepts
that
I'll
walk
through
one
with
a
full
court
and
one
with
a
half
court.
So
we
wanted
to
kind
of
explain
to
you
our
thinking
as
far
as
what
kind
of,
if
we
went
with
a
half
court,
what
kind
of
opportunities
does
that
present
in
the
park?
B
B
B
B
So
when
we
started
the
design,
we
were
trying
to
create
a
framework
for
the
the
park
layout,
and
so
this
is
very
generally
the
approach
we
were
trying
to
take
where
we
wanted
to
shift
the
court
off
of
morton
street.
So
we
have
a
buffer
and
entry
areas,
both
along
stillman
and
morton,
and
we
wanted
to
preserve
all
of
the
trees
in
the
park.
With
one
exception,
there
is
one
female
ginkgo
tree
that
drops
fruit
which,
when
it
rots,
can
have
a
pretty
unpleasant
smell.
B
So
that
is
a
tree,
we're
looking
to
remove
and
likely
replace
with
a
new
tree
so
diagrammatically.
This
is
how
we
were
thinking
about
some
of
the
spaces.
You
know
if
we
went
with
a
full
court,
certainly
or
we've
got
you
know
the
court
generally
in
this
area
plaza
spaces
for
seating
along
both
morton
and
stillman,
an
adult
exercise
area,
flexible
synthetic
turf,
lawn
space
and
a
play
area
for
kids,
and
I
guess
one
thing
I
should
say
is
you
know?
B
Well,
I
guess
I'll
get
to
that
a
little
bit
later,
but
you
know
just
because
we
identified
this.
You
know
certain
areas
of
the
park
for
play.
I
think
we
can
make
playful
elements
throughout
the
park.
So
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
try
to
do
and
along
those
same
lines,
we
do
not
have
a
dog
area
in
either
of
the
concepts
anymore.
But
we
are
aware
that
you
know
a
lot
of
dog
owners
come
through
the
park,
and
so
we
are
making
provisions
for
them.
B
B
For
the
play
zones,
you
know
this
area
here
is
where
we
were.
You
know
intending
to
have
the
most
intensive
play
area.
So
it's
a
small
park,
we're
using
you
know
a
corner
of
the
park
for
play.
So
one
of
the
strategies
we
had
was
looking
at
play
towers
so
looking
at
play,
equipment
that
had
where
the
play
goes
up
rather
than
out
to
make
best
use
of
the
limited
square
footage
we
have
available
in
the
park.
B
But
I
think
under
any
scenario
we
do.
I
think
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
incorporating
in
natural
materials,
wood
in
stone
in
the
play
area
or
areas
and
not
necessarily
so
natural
play.
You
know
we're
not
looking
at
any
kind
of
loose
materials.
That's
something
that,
from
a
maintenance
standpoint,
doesn't
really
work.
So
we're
going
to
be.
B
You
know
some
of
these
photos
we're
showing
here
show
sand
or
bark
mulch,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
clear
to
everybody
that
our
intention
is
to
go
with
a
different
kind
of
safety
surfacing
so
either
a
rubber
safety
surfacing
or
potentially
synthetic
turf.
We
can
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit
more
later
on
in
the
presentation,
but
another
thing
we'd
like
to
do
so.
Whatever
we
do
with
the
play
areas,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
some
of
that
equipment
has
movement
in
it.
B
So,
with
this
limited
footprint,
we
didn't
feel
that
we
had
enough
room
for
a
swing,
but
we
do
have
enough
room
to
put
in
a
small.
You
know
spinner
piece
of
equipment,
something
that
kids
can
get
on
and
other
kids
can
get
around
and
kind
of
turn
that
around
as
well.
As
you
know,
some
climbing
equipment,
the
play
tower
like
I
was
explaining.
B
Synthetic
turf
lawn
area,
so
this
could
be
used
for
multiple
purposes,
so
it
could
be.
You
know
a
flat,
flexible
space
for
picnicking,
for
you
know,
working
out
or
having
you
know,
small
exercise
classes,
but
we
also
could
you
know,
make
it
a
little
fun
or
playful,
particularly
at
the
edge
where
it
meets
the
play
zone
where
we
could
play
with
the
topography
a
little
bit,
make
it
a
little
bit
more
fun
and
playful
for
kids
of
all
ages.
B
So
another
specific
question
we
have
is
you
know
what
kind
of
you
know
given
that
we're
going
to
be?
Having
some
sort
of
you
know
firm
safety
surface
within
the
play
area,
you
know:
is
there
a
preference
for
the
more
common
rubber
safety
surface?
That's
used
in
a
lot
of
the
boston
city
parks,
or
is
there
interest
in
you
know
synthetic
turf
surface?
You
know.
B
B
Look
to
it
and
with
all
of
the
shade
that
would
really
mitigate
any
kind
of
temperature
issues,
and
then
we
also
thought
that
could
be
nice
rather
than
cutting
up
the
park
into
a
bunch
of
different
types
of
materials,
because
the
play
area
is
adjacent
to
that
synthetic
turf
lawn
area
to
have
that
same
material
carry
through
both
areas
could
be
a
nice
thing
to
do
so.
These
are
some
photos
just
showing
you
of
what
that
could
look
like
on
the
right
hand,
side
here.
B
So
you
can
see
they're
fairly
comparable
in
size,
so
a
little
bit
of
a
different
configuration,
but
about
the
same
area
about
the
same
seating
capacity.
You
know
here
along
stillman
as
exists
today.
You
know
we're
proposing
to
put
new
benches
backed
benches
with
armrests
between
the
trees
facing
in
towards
the
park.
B
But
then
I
think
we've
got
this
nice
entry
area
here
as
well,
where
we
can
receive
people
have
some
seating,
there's
an
opportunity
where
we
can
add
in
some
more
vegetation,
some
more
planting
into
the
park
here
as
well,
and
then
along
morton,
we've
got.
You
know
an
entry
plaza
here.
So
again
you
know
pulling
the
court
off
of
both
streets
to
help
receive
people
into
the
park,
but
then,
with
all
the
trees
that
are
here,
we
thought
that
we
could
do
potentially
some
sort
of
elevated
decking
system.
B
B
An
adult
fitness
area
is
located
here
in
the
corner,
so
there
are
a
couple
of
different
directions.
We
could
go
with
the
adult
fitness,
so
I
think
we've
got
enough
space
where
we
could
get
in
a
reasonably
large.
You
know
single
piece
of
exercise
equipment
that
has
multiple
functions
in
it.
We've
put
these
in
in
a
couple
of
parks
recently,
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
like
it
is
because
to
a
kid
it
looks
like
play
equipment
and
to
an
adult.
It
looks
like
exercise
equipment.
So
it's
flexible
that
way,
which
is
nice.
B
You
know,
particularly
given
the
limited
space
we
have
here.
Anything
we
can
do
to
make
spaces.
Multifunctional
multi-purpose
would
be
good,
but
we
can
take
a
similar
approach
with
smaller
pieces
of
individual
equipment,
but
we
don't
really
have
room
for
both.
I
think
the
choice
is:
do
you
go
with
you
know
one
piece
of
equipment
or
multiple,
smaller
pieces
of
equipment.
So
if
people
have
a
preference
would
be
interested
in
hearing
your
thoughts
tonight.
B
So
this
is
the
second
concept
so
kind
of
at
a
glance
you
know
fairly
similar
to
what
we
had
before,
but
obviously
we've
got
the
court
here
is
a
half
court
and
we've
also
rotated
it.
So
it's
got
a
little
bit
of
a
different
orientation,
so
I'll
go
through
now
and
kind
of
walk
through
the
different
elements
again
making
a
direct
comparison
with
the
concept
that
I
was
just
walking
you
through
with
the
full
court
and
this
second
alternative
with
the
half
court.
B
B
We
can
break
that
a
little
bit
where
we
have
room,
so
we
can,
instead
of
making
it
a
wall
of
fencing.
We
can
offset
that
fencing.
So
you
can
have
a
little
bit
more
of
an
easy
way
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
court
again
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more,
inviting
whether
you're
playing
you
know,
basketball
or
using
it
for
other
activities.
B
B
B
We
really
don't
need
to
have
any
10
foot
high
fencing,
so
the
wall
here
of
the
building
has
very
few
windows,
so
we
won't
need
any
fencing
there
to
for
ball
control,
and
so
we
can
have
these
lower
fences
along
the
side
of
the
court
and
then
do
a
similar
kind
of
configuration
of
the
fencing
for
this
play
area.
Here.
A
Kevin
I'm
just
going
to
jump
in
really
quickly.
Sorry
on
this
slide,
so
one
of
the
other
things
that
would
be
great
to
get
everyone's
opinion
on
once
we
open
up
the
discussion
because
there
were
already
a
couple
questions
in
it
in
the
chat.
Are
you
know
currently,
the
playground
is
fully
fenced
in
and
right
now,
what
we're
you
know,
potentially
looking
at,
is
just
a
partial
fence
to
keep
kids
from
running
straight
into
the
street.
B
Thanks
and
so
here
you
know
a
few
photos
of
different
types
of
fencing,
so
I
think
everybody's
got
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
chain
link
fencing
looks
like
you
know.
We
can
do
different
types
of
fabric,
so
chain
link
fence
can
look
a
little
bit
dressier
if
the
fabric
spacing
is
a
little
bit
tighter
or
we
can
do
something
where
you
can
do
a
welded
wire
fabric
fence,
and
so
those
can
be
a
little
bit
more
colorful.
B
B
So
with
the
half
court
option
here
it
does
allow
us
to
expand
the
play
opportunities,
so
we've
got
space
in
this
area
here
for
a
larger
play
tower
that
could
go
in
and
then
that
frees
up
more
space.
We
have
in
this
corner
here
where
we
think
we've
got
enough
space
where
we
could
fit
in
a
swing
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
equipment.
You
know
we've
been
talking
about
a
small
spinner.
B
And
these
are
the
types
of
structures
that
we're
currently
thinking
about,
so
something
that's,
got
a
limited
footprint
and
is
sculptural
and
we're
also
looking
at
different
types
of
materials.
So
we
could
go
with.
You
know
steel,
climbing
structure
like
this
helical
one
on
the
left
or
we
could
look
at
ones
with
a
wooden
frame
like
you're,
seeing
on
the
right
hand,
side.
B
And
then
we've
got
you
know
for
the
younger
kids.
If
that's
something
that
the
community
desires,
we've
got
different
types
of
small
play
structures
for
the
young
kids
to
give
them
opportunities
to
to
climb
and
slide
in
the
play
zone
and,
like
I
was
saying
before,
I
think
in
either
of
these
concepts,
we'll
definitely
be
looking
at
incorporating
as
much
natural
materials,
particularly
in
the
play
zone,
as
we
can
so
wood
stone
and
creating
it.
B
And
then
for
the
swing,
this
is
the
type
of
swing
that
we're
considering
so
a
single
diff
swing,
which
is
a
little
bit
more
accessible
for
kids
with
mobility
issues
and
can
also
accommodate
more
than
one
child
at
a
time.
If
that's
something
that
the
kids
would
like
to
do
and
like
with
some
of
the
other
play
equipment,
I
was
just
showing
we
do
have
the
option
of
going
with
more
of
a
powder
coated
steel
or
more
natural
material
wood
framed
structure.
B
The
synthetic
turf
lawn
is
really
very
similar
in
both
schemes
in
terms
of
size
and
our
ability
to
incorporate
you
know
some
sort
of
land
form
potentially
in
those
and
like
I
was
saying
before
we
are
looking
at,
you
know,
potentially
expanding
that
same
synthetic
surface
into
the
play
zone.
If
that's
something
that
people
would
like
to
see.
B
You
can
see
the
plaza
spaces
in
both
schemes.
The
configurations
are
a
little
different,
but
not
not
a
whole
lot
different.
I
think
you
know
in
the
in
the
broad
strokes
they're
very
similar
in
terms
of
what
you
get
in
the
full
court
or
the
half
court
option
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
square
footage
of
area
is
pretty
comparable
in
terms
of
what
we're
providing
along
both
stillman
and
morton
streets.
B
C
D
Yeah,
I
think
the
chat.
The
chat
probably
is
a
good
place
to
start
with
the
synthetic
lawn
just
in
terms
of
who
who
what
the
intent
is
for
using
that
space,
because
if
it's,
if
it's
going
to
be
intended
for
young
children,
then
it
should
probably
just
be
officially
part
of
that
space.
Because
I
know
if
there's
something
dedicated
for
children,
I'm
probably
not
going
to
go
in
there
and
sit
or
bring
my
dog
or
whatever
it
might
be.
D
But
if
it's
intended
for
adults
to
lounge
and
sit
or
do
you
know,
yoga,
class
or
or
whatever
it
might
be,
which
I'm
not,
that
might
be
a
bit
of
a
pipe
dream,
but
maybe
yeah
cause.
I
think
dog
use
will
absolutely
be
an
issue
and
people
might
not
want
to
let
their
child
roll
around
on
the
turf.
If
it's
just
open.
C
E
Yeah
hi,
I
agree
with
that
last
comment:
I'm
I'm
a
little
worried
about
that
lawn
area
as
well,
and
I'm
unless
it's
specifically
programmed
I'm
not
sure
how
it
will
be
used,
except
possibly
by
dog
owners
and
dogs,
and
I
think,
if
that's
the
case,
it
needs
to
be
restricted
from
having
dogs
in
that
area.
For
the
reason
cited,
you
know
you
you
mentioned
at
every
meeting
that
this
park
design
is
not
related
at
all
to
the
hotel,
and
yet
I
I
get
worried.
E
I
see
so
many
elements
of
the
design
that
that
suggests
some
kind
of
an
integration
with
or
an
interface
with,
the
proposed
hotel,
for
instance
the
especially
with
the
full
cart
full
court
concept.
The
noisier
activity
areas
are
pushed
towards
the
residents
on
stillman
street
and
away
from
what
may
be
a
hotel
in
the
future.
E
Also,
the
bosque
plaza
area
that
seems
to
line
up,
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
it
seems
to
line
up
with
the
the
dining
space
the
restaurant
space,
which
may
have
outdoor
tables
close
to
morton
street,
and
I
wonder
whether
that
entry
plaza
on
morton
is
lined
up
with
the
proposed
passageway
in
the
project.
Hotel
project
plans
current
current
plans,
so
I
I
just
worry
that
I
see
so
many
elements
here
that
suggest
interface
with
the
hotel
and
maybe
I'm
totally
wrong,
and
I
also
wanted
to
bring
up
the
the
elephant.
E
A
B
Sure,
I'm
you
know
we're
trying
to
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
balancing
act,
so
we
are
not
designing
specifically
for
the
hotel.
I
don't
believe
that
we
are,
but
we
are
trying
to
acknowledge
that
you
know
that
very
well
may
be.
You
know
a
significant
change
to
that
edge
and
you
know
particularly
with
a
pedestrian
cut
through
I.
I
think
it
would
be
it's
the
responsible
thing
to
do
to
respond
to
that
that
the
park
needs
to
acknowledge.
B
B
You
know
that
the
court
is
moving
a
little
further
away
from
morton
street,
but
I
think
it
does
it's
not
a
very
nice
way
to
enter
the
park
from
that.
You
know
from
the
morton
street
side
when
you
have
that
10
foot
high
chain
link
fence
and
a
walling
off
the
street
from
the
park,
so
that
was
really
the
primary
impetus
for
us
to
move
it.
And
then
you
know
we
are
changing.
B
A
Could
the
court
shift
towards
morton
still
be
off
of
it
from
a
perspective
of
you
know,
lowering
fences
on
park
edges
so
that
that
the
the
width
of
stillman
doesn't
or
what
the
morton
doesn't
feel
as
narrow
still
to
kind
of
try
to
help
with
that
feel,
but
could
the
play
tower
move
to
the
opposite
side?
If
that's
a
concern,
although
honestly
children
on
a
play
tower,
you
know
it's
not
no
noise,
but
would
that
configuration
at
all
work?
I'm
just
curious.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
also,
you
know
curious
to
know
what
adam,
who
is
also
on
the
design
team,
thinks
but
yeah.
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
you
know
that
couldn't
shift
you
know
there'll
be
some
changes.
You
know
might
need
a
little
bit
more
fencing,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
see
anything
where
that
would
be.
You
know
a
difficult
change
to
make.
Certainly.
A
And
then
the
other
thing
in
terms
of
morton
street,
as
you
guys
know,
it's
not
a
boston
park
street.
So
we
have
no
control
over
what
happens
on
morton
street.
When
you
ask
what
our
ideal
would
be,
our
ideal
would
be
for
it
to
not
be
filled
with
rats
and
trash
right.
It
is
definitely
not
something
that
is
a
positive
for
the
park.
E
A
We
are
definitely
having
conversations
with
them.
They
have
their
own
budgets,
their
own
projects,
their
own
cycles,
but
we
are
definitely
talking
with
both
them
and
with
isd
and
inspectional
services
in
terms
of
all
of
the
issues
with
rats
and
trash
and
other
things.
So
we
are
coordinating
with
other
departments,
but
we
can't
make
any
decisions
on
their
behalf
or
push
them
to
do
anything.
But
we
are
trying
to
have
those
conversations.
A
Looking
at
the
chat,
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
wants
to
jump
in
feel
free,
but
scrolling
back
up.
There
was
a
question
about
the
morton
street
entrance.
I
think
the
morton
street
entrance
would
be
used
as
much,
if
not
more
than
stillman,
if
it
were
not
used
as
a
storage
space
for
trash
receptacles,
and
I
would
100
agree
concern
that
the
court
is
in
front
towards
stillman
street,
which
gives
more
hiding
behind
it
towards
morton
street
for
bad
activity.
Since
most
people
access
from
stillman.
B
Yes,
yes,
I
think
wherever
the
court
will
go,
it
will
not
create
any
kind
of
visual
obstructions
so
and
for
that
matter
we
will
not
create
any
visual
obstructions
anywhere
within
the
park.
So
if
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
any
kind
of
plant
beds,
it
would
be
ground
cover
or
canopy
trees.
Only
and
we
wouldn't
put
in
any
kind
of
you
know,
features
that
would
significantly
you
know,
block
views.
I
think
you
know
the
one
kind
of
maybe
minor
you
know
exception
would
be.
B
You
know
we're
talking
about
the
play
equipment
which
will
have
some
verticality
to
it.
So
those
might
screen
some
areas
to
a
very
limited
extent,
but
I
think
between
that
keeping
the
views
as
open
as
we
possibly
can
and
with
the
the
security
cameras
that
are
going
to
go
in,
I
think
it's
going
to
make
a
huge
difference
to
the
park
in
you
know
all,
but
eliminating
those
undesirable
activities
that
are
currently
happening.
A
B
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
a
good
comment.
I
think
that's
probably
it
would
not
be
surprising
if
that's
you
know
the
reality
of
how
it
were
used.
If
you
know
dogs,
would
you
know
relieve
themselves
in
that
area
as
much
or
more
than
anywhere
else
in
the
park?
So
so
that's
that's,
certainly
something
we
can
take
a
look
at,
I
think,
but
whatever
we
do
with
the
design,
we
are
still
going
to
have
dogs
and
dog
owners
coming
to
the
park.
So
I
don't
think
that
you
know
we're.
B
C
I
think
we
also
wanted
to
incorporate
some
way
to
maintain
the
turf
as
if
there's
a
a
water
fountain,
that
it
could
have
a
hose
bib
connection
that
maintenance
staff
could
use
to
perform
like
cleaning
physical
cleaning,
and
you
know
this
goes.
This
is
just
like
learning
to
use
a
synthetic
turf.
You
know
it's
a
different
material
dogs
would
definitely
use
the
bathroom
on
it,
but
then
there's
that
sort
of
hose
down
cleaning,
but
that's
again
a
maintenance
issue,
but
that
it
that
it
wouldn't
be
this
forever
problem.
Hopefully
of
this
saturated.
A
A
Not
as
much
as
we'd
like,
unfortunately,
okay
well,
let's
talk
about
the
turf
and
in
a
little
bit
there
was
a
question
comment
that
said:
I'd
prefer
as
little
fencing
as
possible
on
stillman
and
fewer
play
spaces
of
if
given
a
choice
between
the
two
options.
So
that's
in
conflict
with
some
of
the
comments
that
we
heard
about
expanding
play
previously,
but
does
that
mean
this
one
came
from
mary
beth
sweeney?
A
D
There
was
a
slide
that
was
shown
that
yeah
on
on
number
two
having
the
the
play
tower
and
the
play
zone.
You
know
I
I
would
say
given
between
you-
know
an
open
space
in
in
one
versus
two.
Basically,
I'm
saying
I
would
prefer
one
rather
than
having
you
know,
two
broken
up
play
spaces
because,
as
of
now
we're
lucky
if
the
play
space
gets
any
use
by
young
children,
you
know,
and-
and
I
mean
I
don't
know-
you
all-
probably
know
better
than
me.
D
I
think
this
is
somewhat
of
a
case
of
if
we
build
it,
they
will
come
hopefully,
but
in
terms
of
just
the
how
you
know
apartment
sizes
around
here,
we
unfortunately
don't
have
too
many
families
with
more
than
one
child.
So,
and
there
are,
you
know,
there's
the
the
prince
street
playground,
but
so
that's
kind
of
where
I
was
getting
at
between
the
two
and
then
just
in
terms
of
that
stillman
street.
D
B
B
Was
just
gonna
say
that
that
is
our
hope
that
we
can
get
rid
of
that
that
park
edge
fence
along
stillman
and
that
we
might
need
to
have
you
know
some.
You
know
hopefully
lower
fencing
kind
of
internal
to
the
park.
But
yes,
I
think
that
that
is
definitely
something
we
would
like
to
do
is
eliminate
that
fence
on
that
edge.
A
A
Yeah
mary
beth,
the
the
comment
that
I
had
made
earlier
about
potentially
shifting
the
play
tower
and
the
court
in
the
half
court.
Therefore,
the
play
would
be
maybe
less
disjointed.
If
that's
the
right
word,
maybe
less
separated.
Would
that
would
that
be?
Would
that
not
solve,
but
is
that
less
concerning?
D
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
I
I
I
know
just
as
someone
who
walks
by
through
quite
a
bit.
I
want
to
keep
myself
and
my
dog
away
from
the
play
areas.
So
so,
if
we
have
two
big,
you
know
play
spaces,
I'm
respectful
of
children
or
the
adults
playing,
and
I
stay
clear
of
it.
So
I'd
rather
have
it
all
contained
given
given
it
would
be
a
different
story.
If
there
was
tons
of
kids
there
all
the
time,
but
there
there
just
isn't
so
you
know
the
fear
is
that
we're
going
to
have
empty
playgrounds.
A
So
then,
going
down
the
comments
just
I
think
this
gets
into
what
you're
saying
too
mary
beth
kirsten's
comment
or
kirsten.
I'm
sorry.
I
know
I
get
that
wrong.
Probably
every
time
was
saying
that
she
agrees
with
your
comment
and
is
thinking
that
we're
trying
for
too
much
activity
in
a
small
space
and
that
she
would
cut
activities
and
increase
the
quality
of
each
included
element.
So
that
being
said,
that
was
one
of
the
things
when
kevin
was
showing
that
survey.
You
know
we
took
out
the
dog
area.
A
If
elements
came
out
that
are
in
these
plans,
whether
it's
one
or
two,
because
they
have
the
same
elements
right,
they're,
just
different
proportions,
what
those
elements
are
that
people
would
be
interested
in
not
having
right,
because
all
of
these
were
things
the
community
was
interested
in
already,
so
I'm
just
curious
yeah.
I.
F
Think
thanks
lauren,
I
think,
since
one
of
the
primary
desires
of
the
community
was
for
passive
use
areas,
that's
what
a
lot
of
people
use
the
park
for.
I
think
you.
I
think
you
should
consider
increasing
the
just
the
natural
past
paths
of
these
areas,
the
seating
areas
decreasing
the
play
areas.
I
don't
think
you
need
two
play
areas.
F
Maybe
I
don't?
I
don't
really.
I
don't
think
the
synthetic
turf
is
a
particularly
good
idea.
It's
very
maintenance
dependent-
and
maybe
you
know
a
hard
surface
in
a
seating
area,
but
you
got
a
limited
budget
and
so,
if,
if
some
of
the
you
know,
activity
areas
are
decreased,
maybe
the
quality
of
each
one
could
be
increased.
F
You
know
that
would
also
prevent
kids
from
running
out
into
the
road
and
instead
of
fencing,
because
I
think
that
the
fencing
you
know
is
something
that's
very
undesirable
now
and
then
just
to
kind
of
second,
something
that
dave
said
that
trash
along
morton
street.
I
think
you
guys
know
this,
and
hopefully
the
parks
department
can
use,
can
use
any
leverage
with
the
city
and
our
mayor
and
our
new
mayor,
because
the
condition
of
morton
street
is
just
gonna,
make
all
this
worthless.
A
F
And
we
will
the
neighborhood,
I
think
a
hundred
percent
of
the
north
end
neighborhood
will
help
you
and
we
all
know
that
that
trash
along
morton
street
shouldn't
be
there.
That's
an
illegal
agreement
that
somebody's
predecessor
entered
into.
So
with
our
new.
You
know
we're
going
to
have
a
new
mayor
and,
and
hopefully
it
will
be
easier
with
a
new
new
regime
in
there,
but
I
think
if
we
all,
if
we
all
get
together,
you
know
we
can
with
our
elected
officials.
We
can
maybe
convince
somebody
that
that
just
can't
be
like
that.
A
So,
while
we're
talking
about
decreasing
activities,
potentially
it
sounds
like
the
synthetic
turf
is
potentially
one
of
those.
What
does
everybody
think
about
the
exercise
equipment,
because
that
was
definitely
pretty
high
up
on
the
list
that
people
talked
about
and
as
the
survey?
So
I'm
just
curious
for
those
here.
E
A
Could
we
kevin
while
we're
talking
about
the
exercise
equipment,
go
back
to
the
slide?
That
shows
those
different
types,
because,
while
we're
talking
about
it,
I'd
be
curious.
What
people's
take
is
on.
You
know
a
larger
structure
that
has
a
lot
of
different
components
on
it
versus
a
couple
of
smaller
ones,
and
I'm
just
curious.
If
people
have
opinions
on
that
that
are
in
the
call.
E
D
Maybe
less
intimidating,
but
I
I
do
agree.
I
like,
I
think
I
do
like
the
space
for
it,
because
it
is
very
secluded
back
there
I
mean
ideally
morton
street
street
will
be
spruced
up
a
little
bit
more,
so
it's
more
inviting,
but
it
is
a
very
kind
of
private
area.
That's
why
there's
a
lot
of
you
know.
Drug
use
back
there
and
the
hope
is,
is
that
we
have
early
morning
folks
in
there
and
in
the
evening,
and
so
in
terms
of
the
equipment.
I
don't
I
I
guess
it
just
depends
on.
D
Maybe
the
amount
of
number
of
use
it.
You
know,
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
sometimes
I've
seen
them
come
with
like
little
instructions
on
what
to
do
with
with
whatever
piece.
So
I
think
just
having
something,
that's
universal
and
appealing,
and
that
will
draw
people
in
and
hopefully
word
will
spread
that
there's
a
great
you
know,
workout
area
there
I
know,
there's
some
groups
that
use
the
greenway
and
defilippo
park
gets
tons
of
folks.
F
A
A
We
want
to
open
that
back
up
like
it
used
to
be
more
historically
and
we
don't
want
that
tall,
fencing
along
the
edges
on
the
street,
so
our
thought
was
pulling
it
back
off
of
either
street
allows
that
edge
to
not
have
that
high
court
fencing
and
if
it
were
a
full
court
like
kevin,
showed
the
fencing
would
need
to
be
higher
than
if
it
were
the
half
court,
but
either
way.
I
think
we
can
look
at
how
to
how
to
address
that
concern
that
that's
been
raised
tonight.
A
A
D
A
A
A
G
A
H
H
It's
not
going
to
be
a
great
place,
regardless
of
how
big
it
is
right
now,
so
you
know
I
prefer
the
full
court
option.
I
think-
and
I
think
designing
it,
like
you
said
with
you
know,
paint
that
supports
or
encourages
other
uses
is
a
good
idea
to
maybe
encourage
some
other
use
on
this.
Second,
on
the
second
half,
if
the
first
court
isn't
in
big
use
but
yeah,
that's
what
I
think.
A
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
looked
at
and
it's
a
little
hard
to
see,
but
there's
if
you
see
there's
like
a
lighter
border
around
the
out,
I'm
like
pointing
at
it
with
my
mouse.
You
can't
see
that
there's
a
lighter
border
around
the
outside.
That
could
be
something
like
a
toddler
tricycle
track
or
like
kids
learning
to
skateboard.
My
daughter
does
that
she's
she's,
almost
nine.
She
does
that
in
basketball
courts
a
lot
where
she'll
take
her
skateboard
and
kind
of
go
around
the
outside.
A
So
it
could
be
a
little
track
for
kids
to
run
or
to
use
their
bikes.
There's
four
square
courts
that
could
be
painted.
You
could
do
hopscotch.
You
could
do
any
of
those
kind
of
pavement
type
markings
which
I
know
there
have
in
the
past
been
some
at
catillo.
Some
of
them
are
pretty
worn
right
now,
but
those
type
of
court
activities
kevin.
Do
you
have
any
others
that
you
that
you
were
thinking
of.
B
You
know,
I
think
one
of
the
other
ones
would
be
just
kind
of
interesting
patterns,
and
we
could
do
that,
certainly
with
more
kind
of
muted
natural
colors,
just
kind
of
facilitate
open-ended
play.
You
know,
if
you
had
polka
dots,
you
know,
kids
could
jump
from
dot
to
dot
or
if
you
had
different
colored
dots,
they
could
maybe
would
indicate
different
sorts
of
roots.
So
there's
you
know
different
ways
that
we
could
just
try
to
encourage
more
kind
of
open-ended
creative
play
with
some
relatively
simple
painting
patterns.
E
A
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
kevin
that
we
could
sort
of
encourage
one
side
to
be
a
half
court
where
we
still
like.
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
with
the
painting,
if
like
the
key,
was
just
lines
on
one
side,
but
it
was
color
and
lines
on
the
other
side
and
you
still
had
hoops,
but
maybe
on
one
side
you
had
more
court
other
court
activities,
so
it
was
still
possible
to
play
but
that
it
encouraged.
A
The
other
just
looking
back
at
the
chat,
andrea,
andrea,
asked.
If
it's
a
it's,
not
a
silly
question,
will
all
of
the
existing
fencing
be
removed.
So
we
didn't
talk
about
that,
but
the
plan
is
that,
with
the
full
park
renovation
all
of
the
existing
fencing
would
be
removed
and
with
that
diagram
that
kevin
had
shown
earlier
that
those
would
be
the
places
that
we
would
put
new
fencing
back.
So
that's
definitely
not
a
silly
question.
A
A
Exercise
equipment
think
that
it'll
get
used
by
young
adults,
yes
to
exercise
equipment
survey
for
the
the
actual
type
of
equipment
for
exercising,
prefer
the
half
court
with
more
passive
open
space
agree
with
kristin
half
court
with
more
open
space.
I
believe,
there's
definitely
a
strong
demand
for
an
adult
fitness
area.
It's
great.
A
A
E
D
A
B
A
And
typically,
if
we
have
any
ornamental
planting,
it's
not
something
that
parks
has
the
staff
to
maintain,
but
if
it's
something
that
the
friends
of
cattillo
wanted
to
potentially
take
on.
In
terms
of
that
that
level
of
detail
like
we've
done
that
in
the
south
end,
you
know
child
hassan
park.
We
have
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
friends
group
and
we
did
install
more
detailed
planting
that
they
take
care
of.
So
if
that's
something
that
the
friends
group
is
interested
in,
we
could
talk
about
that
and
kevin.
F
Yeah,
so
we
do,
we
did
put
some
planters
there
yeah
and
we
do
have
plants
in
them.
So
so,
apart
from
a
permanent
commitment
to
maintaining
them,
which
you
know,
we
could
determine
whether
we
could
do
or
not
one
of
the
issues
is
availability
of
water.
So
it
would
be
easier.
You
know
if
there
was
a
water.
F
There
was
a
water
faucet
in
the
park
where
the
neighbors
could
use
that
to
maintain
plants.
But
so
so
one
issue
is
maintenance
and
another
issue
is
obviously
you
know
what
what
is
that
and
I
hate
to
mention
the
neighboring
development.
But
what
is
going
to
be
the
impact
of
shadow?
And
you
know-
and
maybe
not
just
that
development
but
other
adjacent
developments
as
well
right
impact
on
on
plants?
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
a
pretty
thorny
issue
to
ensure
permanent
maintenance
and
also
kind
of
have
the
area
around
and
fluff,
but.
A
You
know
for
us
it's
hard
to
make
those
kinds
of
decisions
too,
with
you
know,
moving
forward
with
the
park
and
not
knowing
what's
happening
and
making
sure
that
we're
not,
we
don't
want
to
have
detrimental
impacts
to
the
park
because
of
something
that
might
happen
next
door
that
we
don't
think
about.
So
we
want
to
be
cognizant
of
it,
especially
like
you
said
in
terms
of
shade
and
other
things
you
know
it.
A
If
that's
something
that's
of
interest,
the
other
thing
kevin,
you
know
a
bit
more
about
the
water
supply,
but
clearly
we
have
water
supply
if
we're
or
we're
going
to
have
water
supply.
If
we're
talking
about
drinking
fountains
and
would
assume
that
we
could
put
in
a
hose
bib,
even
if
it
had
a
key
to
it,
that
could
be
locked
that
could
only
be
used
by
the
friends
group
for
watering,
as
opposed
to
you
know.
A
D
Design
kirsten-
you
may
have
more
thoughts
on
this
because
you
do
such
a
good
job
with
holiday
decorations,
but
would
now
be
probably
the
time
to
suggest
some
sort
of
a
storage
space
for
the
friends
group
like
to
put
holiday,
decorations
or
any
other
kind
of
like
folding
tables.
If
there
was
going
to
be
clean
up
days,.
F
A
B
I
don't
the
challenge
with
making
that
you
know
raising
that
height
relative
to
the
areas
around
it
is.
I
think
we'd
want
to
make
an
accessible
connection
up
to
that
higher
elevation,
so
the
higher
it
is
the
harder
it
is
to
to
make
that
accessible
connection.
So
I
think
that
that
would
be
challenging
to
do.
However,
I
don't
know
it's
just
my
initial
thought.
You
know,
I
think
there
is
that
adult
fitness
area-
that's
already
got
some
kind
of
visibility.
You
know
issues
just
in
terms
of
it's.
B
You
know
like
was
the
comment
that
earlier
you
know
tonight
that
it's
a
little
kind
of
tucked
away-
and
you
know
for
that
reason-
kind
of
nice
for
adult
fitness,
because
you
don't
feel
like
you're
on
display
for
everybody
to
see.
But
you
know
if
we
did
want
to
put
in
some
sort
of
you
know
container,
maybe
putting
something
you
know
somewhere
in
that
area.
It
wouldn't
create
another
sort
of
construction
in
the
park.
It's
sort
of
tucked
away,
so
there
might
be
a
relatively
easy
way
to
to
have.
H
A
F
F
Unless
there
was
interest
of
the
community
and,
like
you
know,
having
a
space
that
was
available
for
people
to
store
things
like
basketballs
and
and
and
place,
and
things
like
that,
you
know
that,
of
course
has
its
own
issues,
because
then
you
have
risk
of
loss
and
all
that
sort
of
thing.
If
you
open
it
up
to
everybody,
but
not
not
a
very
large
space.
F
A
So
kevin
is
there
anything
that
we
didn't
touch
on
getting
opinions?
Oh,
we
talked
about
the
fencing
and
the
reason
we
were
showing.
Those
options
is
when
I
was
talking
with
the
friends
group
last
week,
there
was
the
concern
about
or
the
quest
not
maybe
not
concerned
the
question
about
whether
there's
another
alternative
to
chain
link.
So
that
was
why
we
were
showing
some
of
these
other
options
and
the
one
in
the
top
left
corner.
A
We
did
that
recently
at
mary
hannon
park
and
there's
a
taller
version
around
the
basketball
and
a
shorter
version
around
the
playground,
so
they
tied
in
with
each
other,
and
it
definitely
gives
it
a
a
different
feel
than
chain
link
still
can
be,
you
know
tying
it
in
to
it
doesn't
have
to
be
yellow
but,
like
can
tie
into
whatever
else
is
going
on
to
match
the
park.
It
could
be
black,
but
I
just
am
curious
what
people's
thoughts
are
on
fence.
E
D
I
have
seen
some
slides
that
is
being
proposed
for
clarendon
street
playground
and
back
bay,
and
they
have
I'm
sure
it's
much
more
costly,
but
I
actually
feel,
like
the
budgets
are
very
similar
for
the
two
projects.
They
have
a
proposal
where
it's
wood,
that
it's
it
is
it's
still
high
and
and
there's
a
photo
that
was
that
was
shared
with
in
one
of
these
presentations
that
had
it,
but
it
looked
gorgeous.
D
A
B
A
Nope
well,
it
sounds
like
to
me
that
we
moved
in
the
right
direction
on
some
things
from
our
second
meeting
and
that
there
are
still
some
concerns
about
the
direction
that
we're
heading
for
others.
So
what
it
sounds
like
to
me
is
what
I'd
like
to
do
is:
go
back
to
the
design
team
and
have
some
meetings
talk
about
some
of
the
thoughts
and
the
concerns.
A
G
It
was
constructed
to
have
a
storage
space
built
in
underneath
it,
and
our
experience
over
the
last
couple
years
has
been
that
it
was
woefully
inadequate
unless
you
have
a
really
tall
structure
taller
than
the
three
steps
that
the
deck
utilizes,
it's
basically
just
a
crawl
space
that
has
serious
accessibility,
issues
and
limited
storage
capacity.
So,
in
addition
to
that,
since
the
the
park
gets
sprinkled
every
night
for
sanitary
reasons
being
a
dog
park,
the
space
under
the
deck
was
not
waterproof.
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So
you
couldn't
really
store
anything
under
there
that
was
susceptible
to
to
damage
from
water
and
all
those
factors
led
us
to
actually
petition
the
parks
department
to
install
a
more
functional
storage
space
that
we
got
approval
for
and
now
utilize
it's
a
it's
a
taller
structure
that
has
much
more
storage
space
and
is
weatherproof
and
relatively
sturdy.
So
if
you're
thinking
about
combining
a
seating
area
with
a
storage
space,
I
would
I
would
advise
against
it,
but
take
a
look
and
see.
What's
in
the
dog.