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Description
Public meeting to discuss potential changes to the Egleston Square intersection and vehicular access to Atherton Street, Beethoven Street, and other neighborhood streets.
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A
A
For
some
reason
I
lost
mine-
I
don't
know
why
one
sec
technical
difficulties
there
we
go
it's
back.
Who
knows
what
happened
so,
as
I
said,
ptd
project,
boston,
transportation,
department,
project
that
we
kicked
off
in
the
fall
of
2020
and
one
of
the
elements
that
came
up
in
the
last
round
of
public
meetings
was
how
atherton
street
fits
into
the
larger
eggleston
square
intersection.
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A
A
So
if
you
have
any
friends
or
neighbors
family
who
might
feel
more
comfortable
engaging
with
the
material
in
spanish,
we
would
encourage
you
to.
You
know,
encourage
them
to
join
us
and
we'll
have
additional
engagement
around
the
the
project
in
the
spring
of
2022.,
a
quick
plug
for
the
project
webpage
on
boston.gov.
A
A
You
can
sign
up
for
the
project
mailing
list
here
as
well.
If
you
haven't
already
and
when
we
have
future
meetings,
we'll
send
out
an
email
to
let
everybody
let
you
know-
and
you
can
also
find
details
on
upcoming
events
like
the
one
that
we
have
tomorrow
on
the
project
webpage
and
links
for
registration.
A
So
the
project
web
page
is
down
here
at
the
bottom
of
the
page:
boston,
dot,
gov,
slash,
department,
slash
transportation,
eccleston
dash
square
redesign,
but
if
you
just
google
or
use
your
preferred
search
engine
and
put
in
eggleston
square
redesign,
it
should
be
the
first
page
that
comes
up
so
quick
agenda.
I'm
going
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
project
background
and
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
the
larger
eglston
square
redesign
project
that
we've
had
in
the
works.
A
I'm
going
through
the
different
access
options
that
we
considered
and
looking
at
sort
of
the
trade-offs
for
each
of
those
in
terms
of
safety.
Traffic
delay,
impacts
to
parking
all
the
things
that
that
I'm
sure
many
of
you
care
about
and
then
to
close
out
we'll
also
just
sort
of
have
a
reminder
about
the
other
treatments
that
we're
considering
for
atherton
street
and
surrounding
streets
in
the
neighborhood.
A
That
material
won't
really
be
new.
It's
materially
presented
in
the
summertime,
but
you
know
we'll
be
prison
in
the
last
round
of
public
meetings,
but
just
kind
of
a
quick
overview
of
some
of
the
traffic
calming
treatments
and
improvements
for
bicycles
that
we
presented
over
the
summer
so
that
you
have
kind
of
a
full
picture
of
what's
being
proposed
for
atherton
and
some
of
the
surrounding
streets
and
then,
of
course,
we'll
close
with
time
for
questions
and
discussion.
A
So
talking
about
the
larger
project
you
see
kind
of
in
this
funny
shapes
dotted
line
the
the
limits
of
the
larger
evilson
square
redesign
project.
So
we're
really
focused
on
the
the
intersection
at
the
heart
of
the
square
and
improving
safety
and
operations
and
the
public
spaces
that
surround
that
square.
A
So
it's
the
project
really
encompasses
both
the
main
intersection
and
a
number
of
significant
neighborhood
streets
like
school
street
atherton
street
boylston
street,
and
so
you
know
many
of
the
streets
that
intersect
with
those
so
and
and
the
the
thinking
too,
is
that
the
project
limits
sort
of
encompass.
You
know
these
streets,
these
neighborhood
streets,
that
form
a
a
network
around
eggleston
square
that
that
go
from
the
southwest
corridor
park
in
the
west
to
franklin
park
and
walnut
avenue
in
the
east.
A
So
you
know
we're
really
taking
a
two-pronged
approach
with
this
project:
we're
looking
at
designs
for
a
more
permanent
reconstruction,
so
that
means
you
know
potentially
doing
things
like
moving
curbs.
You
know
stuff
that
involves
concrete
and
granite
and
pouring
fresh
asphalt
and
all
that
all
that
sort
of
heavy
lifting
construction
stuff.
A
But
we
also
want
to
look
for
opportunities
to
be
a
little
bit
more
swift
with
the
improvements,
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
try
to
accomplish
from
a
safety
standpoint.
Maybe
we
can
get.
You
know
a
substantial
benefit
through
things
like
paint
and
flexible
posts
and
those
sorts
of
things
that
aren't
intended
to
be
permanent
solutions,
they're
sort
of
stop
gap,
measures
to
get
safety
improvements
until
the
permanent
designs
are
completed
and
and
we
get
around
to
implementing
those
which
obviously
takes
a
bit
longer.
A
So
you
know
this:
is
the
americans
with
a
disabilities
act,
so
just
a
lot
of
the
sidewalks
and
street
ramps
or
the
pedestrian
ramps
and
corners
are
not
compliant
today
with
ada.
So
you
know
we'll
be
looking
to
make
improvements
for
accessibility
so
that
everyone
will
be
able
to
you,
know,
use
and
enjoy
the
streets
around
eccleston
square
safely.
A
Timing
improvements
to
improve
the
operations
of
the
signals
for
for
all
modes
of
transportation
and
the
bus
priority
treatments
that
are
on
place
in
columbus
ave
will
be
retained
and
incorporated
into
the
design
as
well
at
eggleston
square.
Just
a
quick
word
on
the
planning
context.
So
a
lot
of
the
the
work
that
we
do
is
informed
by
previous
planning
efforts.
A
The
complete
streets
guidelines
that
were
passed
in
2010
promotes
sort
of
balancing
street
design
for
a
variety
of
modes
of
transportation.
So
you
know
we're
not
thinking
just
about
motor
vehicle
delay
and
how
fast
can
we
move
traffic?
It's
also
about
you
know
safety
for
pedestrians,
safety
for
bikes
and
especially
for
vulnerable
road
users.
Like
our
seniors,
you
know
children
and
pedestrians
and
cyclists
right
also.
A
Another
important
thing
to
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
goboss
in
2030
also
established
goals
of
trying
to
reduce
the
share
of
trips
that
are
made
by
driving
alone
by
half.
While
we
are
are
looking
to
increase
sustainable
and
active
transportation
modes
that
are
that
are
healthy,
like
walking
and
cycling
and
public
transit
use.
A
This
project
included
bus
and
pedestrian
accessibility,
improvements
between
jackson,
square
and
walnut
avenue,
and
that
project
was
also
a
project
that
was
recommended
through
the
jp
rocks
transportation
action
plan.
You
can
see
a
lot
of
the
corridors
and
the
streets
and
intersections
that
were
highlighted
in
that
in
the
jp
rocks
transportation
action
plan
for
improvement.
There
are
many
other
ones
that
we're
looking
at
now.
A
You
see
atherton
street
and
eccleston,
and
the
evilson
square
intersection
highlighted
here
importantly,
and
just
a
quick
word
on
the
timeline.
As
I
said,
we
kicked
off
in
2020.
Our
first
meeting
was
really
about
sort
of
just
introducing
people
to
the
project
and
confirming
that
everything
that
we'd
heard
from
the
previous
planning
efforts
and
initiatives
like
the
the
jp
rocks
transportation
action
plan
micro,
boss
in
2030,
was
still
relevant
and
still
met
the
community's
needs.
A
So
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
to
meredith,
but
maybe
before
I
do.
I
just
want
to
back
up
and
say
you
know,
and
another
important
piece
of
context
here
is
that
I
think
what
facilitated
a
lot
of
these
conversations
was
that
our
initial
concept
that
we
shared
in
the
summer
showed
us
proposing
to
remove
the
left
turn
at
atherton
street
from
washington
street
northbound.
A
So
if
you're
coming
up
washington
street
towards
eggleston
square
headed
towards
nubian
square,
that
left
turn
we're
proposing
to
remove
that
that
move
from
the
network.
So
you
would
need
to
use
other
streets
to
access
atherton
street.
So
the
reason
for
this,
the
logic
behind
that
proposal
was
that
you
know
we're
really
trying
to
you
know:
simplify
the
intersection
at
evelson
square,
which
is
quite
complicated.
A
You
know
it's
got
pathetic.
Street
is
essentially
like
a
third
leg
to
that
intersection
and
so
by
re,
removing
some
of
the
the
conflicting
moves
that
happen
at
that
at
that
intersection.
You
know
it's
good
from
a
safety
standpoint
and
then
also
just
you
know,
removing
the
left
turn
at
that
location
helps
with
traffic
flow
along
washington
street.
You
know,
a
relatively
small
number
of
vehicles
are
as
a
share
of
the
total
vehicles
that
pass
through
the
intersection
are
trying
to
turn
left.
A
A
But
when
we
presented
that
some
of
the
residents
who
live
on
africa
were
like
wait,
a
second,
you
know
I'm
used
to
being
able
to
turn
left
here.
You
know
how,
if
that
happens,
will
I
be
able
to
get
to
my
get
to
my
health?
You
know:
have
you
considered
other
options,
and
so
that's
really
what
what
you're
going
to
see
now
is
we
explored
some
of
the
other
alternatives
that
that
we
heard
people
wanted
us
to
look
into,
or
you
know,
ideas
that
we
came
up
with
that.
A
A
So
this
would
be
only
the
portion
of
atherton
street
that
sort
of
connects
robert
lawson
park
and
the
plaza
across
the
street
where
the
the
blue
bike
station
is
and
the
thinking
behind
this
is
so
just
if
you're
not
familiar
with
the
concept.
It's
essentially
we
raise
the
street
to
the
level
of
the
sidewalk,
so
we
make
the
street
flush
and
you
know
what
that
does.
Is
it
sort
of
reinforces
the
shared
nature
of
the
street?
You
know
people
walking,
biking
and
driving.
A
Can
you
can
share
that
space
and
by
raising
the
street
up
to
sidewalk
level?
It
helps
to
slow
traffic
as
it
turns
onto
the
street
kind
of
serves
as
a
gateway
into
the
neighborhood.
You
know,
as
you
turn
off,
of
them
sort
of
major
streets
like
washington
and
in
columbus,
and
then
you
know,
I
think
something.
That's
really
potentially
exciting
is
how
you
know
this
could
kind
of
create
this
more
cohesive
public
space
at
the
heart
of
eggleston
square.
A
By
linking
together
these
two
plazas,
you
know
robert
lawson
park
and
the
paws
across
the
street.
That
are,
you
know,
not
super
well
connected
today,
and
you
know
to
do
this.
You
know
we.
We
are
thinking
that
we
might
reallocate
the
few
on-street
parking
spaces
that
you
see
there
just
along
the
park.
So
it's
about
five
lawn
street
parking
spaces
that
would
be
reallocated,
but
you
know
in
their
place.
You
would
have
you
know
wider
sidewalks,
potentially
space,
for
you
know
for
urban
greenery.
A
You
know
more
kind
of
opportunities
for
place
making.
I
think
it
also
could,
unlike
unlock
some
interesting
opportunities,
if
the
neighborhood
you
know
ever
wanted
to
do
programming,
you
know
occasionally
shut
down
atherton
street.
Maybe
for
you
know
an
event
on
a
sunday
or
something
like
that.
You
know.
I
think
it
just
opens
up
some
interesting
opportunities,
and
so
we've
we've
presented
that
in
the
meetings
over
the
summer
and
also
at
the
pop-up
meeting
and
have
gotten
generally
good
feedback
on
that
idea.
A
To
date,
you
know,
and
just
highlighting
a
few
more
of
the
design
elements
you
know
we
could
use
things
like
bollards
street
lights,
planting
boxes,
things
like
that
to
sort
of
delineate
the
space
that
vehicles
can
circulate
in
and
we
could
also
consider
things
like
like
textured
pavement.
That
sort
of
you
know
again
sends
a
signal
that
it's
sort
of
a
special
place,
not
just
a
regular
street
at
this
particular
location.
A
C
Awesome,
thank
you,
william,
all
right.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
yeah
kick
this
off
by
presenting
four
different
options
for
allowing
access
to
atherton
street
and
before
I
dive
into
that,
I
see.
John
has
just
asked
whether
or
not
these
slides
are
going
to
be
available
to
see
later.
Yes,
we
are
recording
this
presentation,
we'll
post
the
recording,
along
with
hard
copies
of
the
slides
to
the
project
website,
so
that
they
can
be
downloaded.
So
thank
you
for
asking
that
question,
john
all
right.
C
We
went
back
and
developed
the
four
options
that
we're
presenting
to
you
today.
I
will
make
clear:
there's
not
a
preferred
option
at
this
time.
The
goal
is
to
share
the
four
with
you
all
with
folks
tomorrow,
with
the
people
we
chat
with
last
week
and
to
get
sort
of
impression
from
the
community
about
which
of
these
options
make
sense
to
to
the
most
folks.
C
So,
starting
with
the
first
option
presented
here,
it's
a
little
bit
deceptively
called
an
access
option
because
it
doesn't
actually
change
existing
access
to
atherton
street.
Today.
This
was
a
suggestion
by
a
resident
to
look
at
adding
a
left
turn
lane
on
washington
street
to
allow
left
turns
onto
atherton
street
and
columbus
avenue
via
a
dedicated
left
turn
lane.
C
So
again,
no
changes
to
access
to
atherton
street
no
changes
to
existing
vehicle
routing.
However,
you
are
left
with
some
conditions
that
exist
today
that
aren't
ideal
and
some
other
changes
that
I'll
get
into
so.
Firstly,
adding
that
left
turn
of
course
maintains
that
existing
left
current
conflict
with
pedestrians
and
people
who
are
crossing
atherton
street
walking
along
washington
street.
C
While
this
left
turn
would
create
dedicated
space
for
left
turners,
it
doesn't
improve
overall
intersection
delay.
So
it
would
not
make
it
easier
for
motorists
to
get
through
the
intersection
of
washington
and
columbus,
and
you
would
probably
have
situations
in
rush
hours
where,
if
you
were
trying
to
turn
left,
you
would
still
be
waiting
in
a
queue
to
get
to
that
left.
C
C
All
right,
so,
if
we
move
on
to
access
option
two-
and
this
is
the
one
that's
going
to
be
the
most
familiar
to
people
who
were
able
to
attend
our
meetings
in
june
of
this
year
or
to
review
the
materials
from
those
meetings,
this
option
looks
at
restricting
left
turns
from
washington
street
onto
atherton
street.
So
people
who
are
trying
to
get
to
atherton
street
by
turning
right
either
from
washington
street
or
turning
right
from
columbus
onto
washington
street
onto
atherton
street
would
still
be
able
to
do
so.
C
We're
simply
removing
that
left
turn
from
washington
onto
atherton
street
and
that
helps
us
achieve
a
couple
of
things.
So,
firstly,
from
a
safety
perspective,
it's
removing
the
left
turn
conflict
with
again
pedestrians,
and
then
it's
also
helping
to
reduce
overall
intersection
delay
at
the
intersection
of
washington
and
columbus,
because
it's
allowing
us
to
advance
a
concept
where
we
would
remove
left
turns
from
the
intersection
which
would
help
everybody
drivers
and
transit
riders
navigate
that
intersection
more
efficiently
and
more
quickly.
So
there
are
benefits
there.
C
While
there
are
no
parking
impacts
on
washington
street
again
because
we're
not
making
any
sort
of
geometric
changes
to
washington
street,
that
would
impact
parking,
there
would
still
be
those
five
parking
spaces
that
william
mentioned
earlier.
That
could
be
impacted
related
to
implementing
a
raised
shared
atherton
street
and
then,
finally,
if
we
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
just
so
that
people
can
thanks
william
get
a
closer
look
at
this.
C
Some
drivers,
so
looking
at
pre-cove
accounts,
maybe
like
10
to
20
drivers
an
hour
and
that's
with
rush
hour,
would
need
to
reroute.
These
are
drivers
that
today
are
pre-covered
we're
turning
left
from
washington
street
onto
atherton
street
and
again
those
10
to
20
drivers
an
hour
during
brush
hours
would
have
to
go,
take
an
alternate
route
to
access
if
they
were
trying
to
access
homes
to
access
their
homes
on
atherton
street.
C
All
right,
so
that's
option
two
option:
three
and
option
three
and
option
four
I'll
start
here
are
both
mostly
similar
with
one
distinct
difference
which
I'll
get
into,
and
what
we
were
looking
at
here
is
whether
or
not
we
could
create.
Basically,
whether
or
not
we
could
eliminate
that
left
turn
onto
atherton
street,
while
reducing
the
distance
that
drivers
would
have
to
reroute
to
access
their
homes
on
atherton
street
and
so
option.
Three
is
a
first
attempt
at
that,
so
it
looks
at
restricting
all
turns
onto
atherton
from
washington
street.
C
So
that's
left
right.
People
coming
from
washington
street
people
coming
from
columbus
ave,
it's
restricting
those
turns
onto
atherton
street
and
we're
looking
at
helping
people
get
to
destinations
on
atherton
street
by
creating
what
we're
calling
an
atherton
beethoven
access
loop
where
we
changed
the
direction
of
travel
on
beethoven
street.
C
So,
whereas
today
people
drive
out
of
beethoven
street
onto
washington
street,
with
this
access
loop,
we
would
change
the
direction
of
travel
so
that
people
could
turn
onto
beethoven
street
from
washington
street
and-
and
we
also
allow
two-way
travel
on
atherton
street,
just
between
arcadia
street
and
washington
street.
And
so
what
that
achieves.
C
So
it's
reducing
the
distance
that
people
would
have
to
travel
to
reach
their
homes
on
atherton
street.
It's
also
by
eliminating
those
left
turns
on
atherton
street.
It's
improving
it's
improving
conditions
for
drivers
and
transit
riders
in
general,
who
are
trying
to
get
through
the
washington
and
columbus
intersections,
so
you'd
have
reduced
delay.
There
would
be
more
impacts
to
parking,
because
we
would
be
converting
atherton
street
to
this
two-way
section
between
arcadia
and
washington,
and
to
do
that
to
allow
that
two-way
travel.
C
You
would
have
to
remove
parking
and
then,
while
the
sort
of
the
new
routes
that
people
would
have
to
take,
are
sort
of
less
drastically
different
than
they
are
in
option,
two,
you
would
be
impacting
more
vehicles,
so
closer
to
80,
to
100,
plus
during
during
peak
hours,
would
be
impacted.
So
again
people
trying
to
access
beethoven
and
atherton
street.
You
just
have
more
impacts
on
on
more
people
trying
to
get
to
their
homes,
and
so
one
other
important
thing
to
note
about
this
option.
C
Is
that
you'll
notice
that,
even
though
we're
removing
those
left
and
right
turn
conflicts
onto
atherton
street,
the
safety
and
comfort
for
all
users
does
not
score
very
high.
And
that's
because
we
are
allowing
in
this
option
that
right
out
of
atherton
street,
which
could
lead
to
potential
conflicts
with
vehicles
who
are
turning
right
from
columbus
avenue
onto
washington
street.
So.
A
And
just
another
point
there
is,
I
think,
an
issue
was
visibility
up
columbus
ave
to
your
left.
You
know,
because
of
you
know
the
park
that
you
have
there
your
left,
it's
you
know,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
primary
safety
concerns
of
the
of
a
right
turn
here
is
a
lack
of
visibility
for
vehicles,
turning
right
onto
washington,
from
columbus
as
well.
C
All
right,
so,
if
we
move
on
to
option
four
again,
this
is
very
similar
to
option
three
but
you'll
see
a
distinct
difference
in
the
safety
score
and
again.
That
is
because
we
are
eliminating,
in
this
case,
all
turns
into
or
out
of
atherton
street
at
washington
street,
so
essentially
turning
that
end
of
atherton
street
into
a
cul-de-sac
or
or
a
dead
end.
That
would
be
that
raised
shared
street
and
so
to
again
we're
doing
this.
We
achieve
this
by
creating
this
access
loop
between
beethoven,
street
and
atherton
street.
C
This
option
again
achieves
safety
goals
by
removing
all
turning
conflicts
with
pedestrians
on
that
research
street.
It
helps
to
improve
overall
intersection,
delay
at
eccleston
square
and
again
because
you're
removing
those
left
turns
which
helps
people
get
through
the
intersection
faster
from
all
directions
at
to
all
destinations.
C
But
again,
this
is
something
to
note
for
options.
Three
and
four.
By
moving
those
turns
that
were
going
on
to
atherton
street
to
beethoven
street,
we
could
shift
some
delays
to
the
intersection
of
washington,
street
and
beethoven
street.
So
this
option
is
not
you
know,
a
silver
bullet
or
a
slam
dunk
for
to
use
it
better.
Slam,
dunk
use
a
better
term
for
traffic
conditions
and
again
finally,
similar
to
option
three.
You
have
similar
impacts
related
to
parking
and
then
vehicle
routing
and
the
number
of
vehicles
that
would
be
affected.
C
A
You
know,
I
think
another
important
point
that
I
maybe
neglected
to
mention
at
the
outset
was
that
you
know,
I
think
all
of
these
options
accept
the
first
option
that
you
know
we
proposed.
You
know
adding
a
left
turn
lane.
You
know
sort
of
would
assume
that
there
would
be
a
drop
in
traffic
volumes
on
african
street
right
and
would
sort
of
change
the
character
of
atherton
street
from
a
street.
That's
used
today
by
many
as
a
cut
through
street.
You
know
to
more
of
a
you
know,
a
street.
A
That's
you
know
trying
to
design
it
in
such
a
way
that
it's
like
sort
of
more
consistent
with
the
residential
character
of
the
street
right
so
retaining
access
for
residents.
But
in
you
know
there
would
be
you
know.
Some
of
these
changes
would
reduce
the
probably
the
total
number
of
vehicles
that
are
that
are
using
atherton
street
pretty
substantially
and
and
reduce
a
lot
of
the
traffic
on
the
street.
So
that's
just
another
important
sort
of
bit
of
context
for
for
these
options.
C
Thanks,
william
yeah-
and
you
know
related
to
that
again
for
those
left
for
the
options
that
eliminate
since
particularly
left
turns
onto
atherton
street.
In
addition
to
reducing
that
cut
through
traffic.
Eliminating
that
left
turn
would
allow
us
to
advance
another
concept
for
the
washington
and
columbus
intersection,
which
I
alluded
to,
but
which
was
presented
in
june,
where
we're
looking
at
just
removing
all
left
turns
from
the
intersection
of
washington
and
columbus
avenue,
and
doing
this
again
allows
this
intersection
to
operate
much
more
efficiently.
C
So
again
from
a
traffic
perspective,
the
intersection
of
washington
and
columbus
will
operate
much
more
efficiently
if
we
were
able
to
remove
this
electron
onto
atherton.
In
addition
to
those
operational
improvements,
it
would
also
allow
us
to
tighten
up
the
intersection
and
sort
of
pull
in
curbs
so
that
you
have
a
smaller,
more
manageable
of
our
person.
C
Scale,
intersection
and
people
would
not
have
to
walk
nearly
as
far
to
get
from
one
side
of
both
washington
and
columbus
to
the
other,
and
they
would
also
not
have
to
wait
as
long
and
and
again
when
I
say
they,
I
mean
everybody,
so
people
walking
people
on
buses,
people
in
cars
to
get
through
this
intersection,
which
today
can
sometimes
serve
as
sort
of
a
divide
in
the
neighborhood.
So.
A
Well,
shall
we
continue,
then
yeah?
Oh,
and
maybe
it's
actually
on
that
point.
It's
worth
just
mentioning
that
all
of
the
presentations
materials
from
past
public
meetings,
where
we
showed
those
concepts
for
the
larger
intersection
at
edelson
square
are
on
the
project
web
page.
There
are
recordings
from
past
meetings.
A
We
did
concept
boards
at
some
of
the
last,
the
previous
meetings,
where
we
collected
lots
and
lots
of
comments
on
the
concepts
that
we
shared
from
from
residents
of
the
neighborhood.
So
you
know
I
just
would
encourage
you
if
you
haven't
checked
those
out,
go
to
the
project
webpage
and
and
look
because
you
know
that's
an
important
part
of
this
is
how
this
all
fits
into
the
larger
intersection
and
because
it
is
somewhat
complex.
A
C
C
So
I
won't,
you
know,
read
through
all
the
details,
but
again
some
of
the
traffic
calming
components
that
we're
thinking
about
include
speed,
humps
include
and
so
again.
Travel
calming,
plus
safety
include
clear,
corners,
again
traffic
calming
safety,
we're
maybe
looking
at
a
mini
roundabout
and
then
from
a
pedestrian
access
perspective.
We
inventoried
curb
ramps
throughout
the
neighborhood
and
along
atherton
street
and
beethoven
street
and
have
identified
those
you
know
flag,
those
that
do
need
to
be
improved
to
be
ada
accessible
moving
forward.
C
So
again,
these
are
some
of
the
components
that
we
are
considering
for
traffic
calming.
You
know,
regardless
of
which
access
option
is
selected.
These
are
being
looked
at,
but
again
as
william
noted,
the
options
that
do
sort
of
restrict
turning
movements
onto
atherton
street
would
sort
of
work
well
in
tandem
and
harmony
with
traffic
calming
improvements,
because
you
would,
in
addition
to
having
treatments
that
are
slowing
vehicle
speeds,
you
would
also
have
fewer
vehicles.
You
know
traveling
at
you
know
using
atherton
street
as
that
cut
through.
C
So
those
are
the
the
traffic
calming
and
ped
access
options
that
we're
considering
and
then.
Finally,
before
we
open
it
up
for
questions,
we
also
wanted
to
as
an
fyi
give
you
an
idea
of,
or
just
share
an
additional
bicycle
improvement
that
we're
looking
at
on
another
stretch
of
atherton
street.
So
the
stretch
between
la
martin
and
amory
street.
C
This
is
part
of
I
guess
this
bike
facility
was
conceived
of
as
part
of
a
larger
discussion
about
providing
a
safe,
comfortable
route
for
cyclists
between
franklin
park
and
the
southwest
corridor
through
the
houston
square.
Neighborhood,
as
william
mentioned
those
larger
sort
of
route
options,
we're
considering
and
bike
facilities
on
other
streets
outside
of
atherton
can
be
found
on
the
project
website.
But
you
know
just
to
give
you
all
an
idea
of
what
we're
looking
at
on
this
particular
street
atherton
street.
C
This
concept
shows
a
separated,
contraflow
bicycling,
that
we
are
considering
again
on
this
stretch.
The
graphic
is
a
little
bit
hard
to
see,
but
the
green.
So
if
we're
looking
at
the
map
on
the
bottom
half
of
the
screen,
the
green
line
on
the
lower
half
of
the
road
is
the
separated
control
bike.
Lane
and
separation
is
going
to
be
achieved
either,
but
basically
by
providing
horizontal
and
vertical
separation,
so
either
with
flex
posts
which
you
all
would
be
familiar
with.
C
If
you
walk
by
the
intersection
of
beethoven
in
washington,
those
flex
posts
that
are
implemented
with
the
daylighting
or
that
separation
could
be
achieved
by
raising
the
bicycle
facility
to
the
level
of
the
sidewalk,
so
we're
looking
at
both
options.
The
images
here
show
both
an
example
of
a
separated
bike
lane
again
in
this
case,
one
that
is
raised
and
then
a
contraflow
bike
lane.
So
constant
flow
basically
means
we're
providing
a
dedicated
facility
for
a
bike
to
travel
in
the
opposite
direction
of
travel
on
a
one-way
street.
C
So
atherton
street
is,
as
you
all
know
again,
because
people
use
it
is
a
really
direct
connection
between
martin
street
between
the
southwest
corridor
and
eggleston
square,
the
heart
of
your
neighborhood.
So
looking
at
providing
that
contraflow.
This
contributed
bike
lane
as
part
of
the
route
that
will
help
connect
people
to
agleston
square
and
then
beyond
it
up
to
franklin
park.
So
we're
happy
to
answer
questions
about
bicycle
improvements
as
well.
A
And
yeah,
and
just
highlighting
that
again
this
was
this
was
the
exact
concept
that
was
shared
in
meetings
over
the
summer.
So
this
isn't
a
new
thing,
but
it's
just
again
to
give
you
an
overview
of
sort
of
everything,
that's
being
proposed
for
african
street,
and
you
know
this
little
piece
of
bike
facility
makes
more
sense.
If
you
look
at
it
kind
of
you
know
as
part
of
that
larger
proposal
to
make
that
connection
that
that
meredith
alluded
to.
A
You
know
that
she
mentioned
between
the
southwest
corridor
and
franklin
park,
but
this
is
kind
of
that
first
kind
of
important
piece
of
that
connection
when
you're
coming
from
the
southwest
corridor.
You
know
a
lot
of
people
use
the
street
this
way
today,
but
there's
no
bike
facility
there.
So
it's
just
about
making
that
you
know
a
safer,
more
legible
sort
of
way
for
people
to
get
into
you
know
into
the
neighborhood.
So
I
think
that
you
know
sums
up
what
we've
prepared
for
the
presentation
today.
A
Just
you
know
quick
reminders
on
the
discussion
that
we
are
recording
this
again.
The
handouts
are
are
available
for
download
here,
but
both
those
handouts
and
the
slides
will
be
up
on
the
project
web
page
very
shortly
so
check
that
out.
If
you
want
to
you,
know,
review
these
or
you
know,
share
them
with
anybody
else
and
yeah.
With
that
I'd
say:
let's
we
can
get
going
with
the
questions.
B
William,
maybe
I'll
read
some
of
the
questions
that
have
come
in
while
you
were
presenting.
I
think
that
you
addressed
some
of
these,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
they're
my
understanding
is
people
can't
see
other
people's
questions
until
I
respond
to
them,
so
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
I'll
type
being
responded
now
so
that
everyone
can
see
it?
The
the
first
question
comes
from
jacob
about
the
washington
street.
The
left
turns
onto
atherton
are
around
10
20
10
to
20
drivers
per
hour
at
rush
hour.
Is
that
a
lot?
B
It
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot.
If
it's
not
a
lot,
then
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
a
major
problem
to
solve.
I
agree
that
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
on
washington
street
in
the
business
district,
but
how
much
of
this
is
really
the
etherton
left.
For
other
reasons,
I
think
this
needs
further
study.
Before
saying
we
need
to
eliminate
the
left
turn.
A
A
You
know
the
nature
of
left
turns
is
that
you
know
when
someone's
waiting
to
turn
left.
You
know
if
you
have
one
per
cycle,
it
can
create
a
lot
of
delay.
You
know
a
single
vehicle,
that's
waiting
to
turn
left,
and
I
think
it's
also.
You
know
that
might
not
be
the
primary
driver
of
delay
at
this
intersection.
I
don't
think
we're
suggesting
that
that's
you
know.
A
What's
creating
most
of
the
the
delays,
I
mean
part
of
it's
just
the
sheer
volume
of
cars
that
are
trying
to
you
know
get
through
this
location
at
certain
times
of
day,
but
but
yeah
I
mean,
I
think,
just
another
important
piece
there
that
that
we
talked
about
was
how
this
sort
of
fits
into
the
larger
intersection
and
how
we
were.
You
know
proposing
that,
rather
than
taking
a
left
at,
you
know
northbound
washington,
to
to
columbus.
A
You
know
you
would
instead
take
a
left
onto
bray
street
and
then
you
know
a
right
there,
and
you
know
what
that
does.
Is
you
know?
I
guess
the
point
that
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
that,
like
it
would
be
difficult
for
us
to
say
you
can
take
a
left
turn
at
athlete
street,
but
don't
take
this
left
turn
at
washington
street.
You
know,
I
think,
from
kind
of
a
legibility
standpoint.
A
B
D
D
D
The
houses
are
compact,
I
mean
you
can
stay
in
your
window
and
literally
some
of
the
houses
hand
somebody
an
item
in
their
window.
If
we
turn
that
section
that
you're
talking
about
into
a
two-way
street,
where
were
the
folks
that
live
on
that
street
park,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
houses
there
that
have
a
driveway
to
park.
So
I
I
see
issues
with.
I
think
it
was
option
three
and
four
that
talk
about
the
two-way
street
designed.
D
So
I
I
I
know,
there's
congestion
in
edison
square
they've
always
been
congested
in
eggless
square.
It
has
to
be,
in
my
opinion.
It
has
gotten
worse
since
the
bus,
lander
redesigned
of
columbus
and
silva.
It
has
gotten
worse
because,
when
you're
coming
down
sieber
and
you're
trying
to
make
that
left,
turn
onto
washington,
you've
got
the
bus
lane
that
is
in
the
far
left,
and
then
your
left
turn
is
in
the
middle
and
people
are
using
both
lanes
to
make
that
left
turn.
D
Yes,
I
know,
and
I
see
the
concept
for
the
transportation
the
way
it
was
designed,
but
I
I
do
not
think
that
anything
for
athens
street,
because
it's
such
a
small
residential,
I
think
I
know
traffic
comes
down
there
fast.
I
think
we
need
to
have
some
speed
bumps
on
appleton
street
for
sure
they
need
to
be
speed
bumps
in
there.
Even
if
we
don't
do
anything
else,
it
needs
to
be
some
speed
bumps
in
there.
D
The
other
option,
where
you're
going
to
raise
that
top
part
of
atherton
street
and
the
malay
park
in
space
folks
needs
to
use
those
parking
space
up
there
to
do
business
on
washington
street.
When
you
eliminate
that
parking
space
they're
going
to
go
further
in
to
atherton
street
and
take
up
the
residential
parking
down,
there,
you're
also
going
to
unpack
some
of
the
business
on
washington
street,
because
people
are
going
to
say
well,
there's
no
place
to
park.
A
A
You
know
and
that's
definitely
you
know
an
important
trade-off
to
consider.
You
know
the
the
number
of
vehicles
that
we
had
talked
about
for
the
you
know
the
the
sort
of
shared
street
concept.
You
know
that
would
be
closer
to
about
five
vehicles,
and
you
know
I
think
another
thing
that
we,
which
is
you
know,
I
think,
not
a
huge
number
and
those
spaces
are
not
regulated
today.
So
you
know
people
can
sit
in
them
all
day
long
if
they
want
to.
A
A
So
but
the
points
on
the
parking
are
are
well
taken
and
the
points
on
on
the
speeding
are
well
taken
as
well,
and
you
know
it's
not
about
removing
access
to
the
street,
you
know
we're
actually
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
thoughtful
about.
You
know
how
can
people
still
get
to
the
street
if
they're
coming
by
a
car?
You
know
I
that's.
That's
an
important
consideration
too,
but
yeah.
A
I
think
it's
just
trying
to
also
balance
those
other
elements
that
we
were
talking
about
as
well,
and
you
know
again,
there's
there's
not
really
like
a
a
particular
option
that
we're
trying
to
like
recommend
here
this
evening,
we're
just
sort
of
having
discussion
about.
You
know
how
people
are
feeling
about
these
different
choices
and
the
trade-offs
that
they
they
create.
So
thank
you
again.
A
That's
that's
a
good
question.
So
actually,
if
you
go
back
to
some
of
the
earlier
presentations,
they
are
in
other
parts
of
the
study
area.
You
know
we
kind
of
presented
like
a
a
trimmed
down
version
of
that
this
evening,
but
you
know
we
are
talking
about.
You
know,
for
instance,
like
the
the
crosswalk
here
that
you
see
in
this
photo
at
atherton
street.
You
know
if
we
were
to
raise
that.
That
would
in
essence,
be
you
know,
a
tabled
street
and
a
raised
in
a
race
crosswalk
at
that
location
right.
A
You
know
by
the
schools
in
particular,
so
using
those
as
ways
of
you
know
really
slowing
traffic
and
improving
safety
at
the
schools,
and
we
yeah
and
we've
also
talked
about
you
know
potentially
tabling
some
of
the
minor
intersections.
You
know
or
raising
them
same
thing,
so
so
that
is
being
considered
in
in
other
parts
of
the
the
project
study
area.
You
know
if
you
want
to
get
into
the
details
on
kind
of
where
we
thought
about.
Maybe
those
could
make
sense.
A
A
A
Yep,
so
you
know
some
of
these
options,
the
ones
that
would
change.
You
know
the
proposed
options
that
would
change
the
direction
of
beethoven
street
would
mean
that
traffic
going
down
beethoven
would
now
exit
on
that
last
block
of
of
of
school
street.
So
there
would
be
some.
You
know:
traffic
added
to
school
street
there,
but
you
know
overall.
A
I
think
you
know
that
that
question
is
sort
of
better
answered
by
sort
of
looking
at
the
the
presentations
that
we
did
over
the
summer,
because
school
street
was
a
really
significant
part
of
the
focus
of
those,
and
we
absolutely
are
considering
traffic
calming
improvements
for
the
entire
length
of
school
street.
So
things
like
speed,
humps
raise
crosswalk.
As
I
mentioned,
to
slow
traffic
down
on
school
street,
I
mean
it's
in
the
name
right,
there's,
multiple
schools.
A
B
F
G
B
A
You
know
we're
planning
to
have
additional
rounds
of
engagement
around
the
larger
project
in
the
spring,
to
be
sure,
but
you
know
I
think,
if
there's
a
sense
that
maybe
we
need
more
detailed
conversation
around
this.
You
know
like
if
we
want
to
set
up
more
of
a
like
a
rather
than
a
presentation
format.
Maybe
you
know
maybe
something
like
which
is
more
of
a
pure
sort
of
focus
group
where
everybody
can
see
each
other
on
a
camera.
You
know
and
kind
of
chat
about
that.
A
You
know
the
logic
behind
the
pop-up
when
we
posted
up
in
robert
lawson
park
last
week
and
you
know,
got
to
have
a
lot
of
really
good
face-to-face
conversations
which
are
frankly
hard
to
replicate
in
a
format
like
this.
I
think-
that's,
that's
you
know
fair
to
say
but
yeah.
I
think,
if
there's
a,
if
there's
a
sense
that
maybe
we
haven't
had
enough
discussion
to
to
come
to
a
preferred
alternative
that
you
know
we
could
we
could
have
you
know
more.
A
You
know
like
a
more
focused
discussion
and
you
know
certainly
also
like
if
there's
particular
comments,
questions
or
concerns
you
can
also
just
reach
out
to
me
directly.
You
know
I'm
always
looking
to
to
get
feedback,
because
you
know
you
all
are
the
ones
who
are
the
experts
on
your
street,
so
you
know
my
email
is
there
feel
free
to
reach
out
at
any
time?
For
that
too,
so
yeah.
I
hope
that
this
you
know
answers
it.
I
mean
you
know.
B
A
H
My
life,
okay,
awesome,
yeah,
I
mean
this
is
it
is
good
information.
I
just
think
we,
you
know,
you
said
there'll
be
future
engagements
and
it's
been
pretty
one
way
like
you
keep
coming
to
us
with
your
proposals
and
asking
for
feedback
without
without
asking
without
saying
you
know,
here's
what
we're
thinking.
H
What
do
you
all
think?
Let's
have
a
discussion
where
we
can
all
see
each
other,
and
you
know
if,
if
I,
if
I
talk
to
you
one-on-one,
I
don't
know
what,
when,
if,
if
ellen
or
maria
is
talking
to
you
one-on-one,
I
don't
know
what
my
neighbors
think
about
this.
The
whole
point
of
this
for
as
a
community
project
community
discussion,
is
that
we
come
together
around
some
consensus-ish.
H
The
goal
is
just
that
you
guys
have
already
decided
you
want
to
eliminate.
All
left
turns
from
the
intersection
you're
just
trying
to
go
through
the
charade
of
this
and
sell
us
on
that,
and
that's
a
different
thing
but
like
if
you
actually
care
what
the
people
in
the
street
you
know
want
to
see.
Then.
H
Us
in
a
process
that
allows
us
to
have
those
conversations,
because
right
now
I've
heard
like
three
of
my
neighbors,
and
I
know
that
there's
20
of
my
neighbors
on
this
on
on
this
call-
and
you
know,
we've
gone
out
of
our
way
to
invite
people
to
to
to
this
call
and
get
get
people
engaged
around
this.
But
it's
a
bit
of
a
let
down
when
there's
actually
no
space
for
discussion
and
we're
already
at
time.
A
Yeah
and
thank
thank
you
for
for
that
feedback
and
that
perspective
and
yeah
I
mean,
like
I
said
I
I
you
know,
don't
want
there
to
be
a
sense
that
this
is
not
something
where
you
know
we're
not.
You
know
we
are
legitimately
interested
in
sort
of
hearing
what
what
feedback
you
all
have
about
these
different
alternatives,
and
you
know-
and
maybe
it's
none
of
these
alternatives
right.
A
You
know,
I
think
it's
you
know
we're
putting
this
out
for
you
know
for
for
discussion
for
feedback,
and
you
know
again,
if
there's
a
sense
that
maybe
there's
not
enough
opportunity
in
this
format
to
you
know
to
kind
of
hear
what
everybody
has
to
say.
Then
you
know
we
can
consider
another.
You
know
another
follow-up
to
this.
You
know,
maybe
in
a
few
weeks
time
or
something
like
that
in
the
new
year.
B
Other
questions-
yes,
quite
quite
many
there's
so
renee
asked.
Maybe
we
could
just
try
and
explain
this
again
with
the
slide?
Do
you
think
the
design
I
believe
renee
is
speaking
about
they're
asking
about
options
three
and
four,
but
do
you
think
the
design
will
shift
the
same
traffic
flow
to
beethoven?
Can
you
explain
again
how
changing
the
direction
of
beethoven
will
slow
the
amount
of
traffic
in
the
area.
A
Well,
slowly
so-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
with
the
beethoven
option
is
that
you
know
it's:
it's
honestly,
like
those
options,
don't
have
as
much
of
a
benefit
from
a
traffic
flow
standpoint.
You
know
I
I
do
think.
Obviously,
the
more
so
the
less
direct
a
route
is,
if
you're
trying
to
cut
through
a
neighborhood,
you
know,
probably
the
fewer
cars
will
will
try
it.
I
mean
you
know.
A
E
A
Yes,
so
the
idea
is
to
move
traffic
that
was
coming
northbound
on
washington
street
yeah.
That
was
turning
left
on
atherton
street
to
access
atherton
street
to
move
that
to
beethoven
street.
That's
one
option
right
when
again
we're
not
saying
that
that's
the
option
that
you
know
we
think
is
best
or
it's
just
you
know
it's
one
way
that
we
could.
You
know,
try
to
achieve
the
goals
of
simplifying
the
intersection
getting
those
safety
benefits
at
the
intersection
of
eglston
square,
but
yeah
as
we
saw,
I
think
when
we
presented
the
options.
A
You
know
as
meredith
said:
it's
not
really
a
slam
dunk
from
a
traffic
standpoint,
because
you
know
some
of
the
same
issues
that
you
have
with
left
turns
at
african
street.
You
would
have
it
beethoven
street
too,
but
you
know
my
sense.
Is
that
also
you
know,
combined
with
things
like
traffic
calming,
you
know,
making
a
less
direct
route
for
people
to
try
to
cut
through
the
neighborhood.
You
know
it.
A
May
you
know,
have
some
impact
in
reducing
the
overall
volume
of
cars
that
are
using
catholic
street
or
that
we're
trying
to
make
that
left.
You
know
kind
of
into
that
part
of
the
neighborhood,
but
yeah
there's
not
like
a
an
explicit
sort
of
intention
to
move
all
those
that
volume
onto
beijing
street.
If
that's
the
question.
E
Sorry
one
question
so
then,
when
you
look
at
it
that
way
like
in
the
morning
because
of
the
school,
that's
on
school
street,
that's
gonna
back
that
all
the
way
back
down
school
street,
so
that
would
cause
a
lot
more
congestion,
and
the
other
thing
too
is
beethoven,
is
not
as
long
as
the
other
streets
in
the
area
we're
one
of
the
shortest
streets,
the
amount
of
congestion.
I
can
see
that
happening
on
our
street
and
also
sorry
going
on
beethoven
used
to
be
in
that
direction
and
there
was
accidents.
People
fly
down
these
streets.
E
A
No,
I
think
those
are
all
really
good
points.
You
know
you're
right,
you
know,
with
a
shorter
block,
there's
frankly
just
less
room
to
store
cars
on
it.
Right
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
good
point
and
you
know
the
points
about.
You
know
the
congestion
around
the
schools.
You
know
good
points
as
well.
You
know,
I
think,
whatever
we
settle
on,
you
know.
I
think
it
was.
You
know
sandra
who
made
a
point
like
no
matter
what
option
we
go
with
or
you
know
it'd
be
nice
to
see
some
traffic
calming
right.
A
She
said
speed
humps,
but
you
know
I
think,
there's
there
are
things
that
we
could.
You
know
can
consider
for
these
streets
to
to
slow
down
traffic
on
these
streets.
You
know
no
matter,
no
matter
which
option
we
go
with,
but
no
I
I
think
those
are
all
really
valid,
really
valid
comments
and
and
concerns
that
that
you
know
should
be
taken
into
account.
So,
thank
you
awesome.
Thank
you.
I
A
Yeah,
I
think
that
that's
that's
a
good
point
and
you
know
we
have
colleagues
that
I
have
colleagues
at
btd
who
work
with
with
zipcar
on.
Locating
you
know
stops
for
the
places
for
those
to
be
parked,
and
I
I
actually
don't
know
that
there
are
any
in
kind
of
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
square.
So
that
could
be
something
that
we
could
explore.
You
know,
I
think.
A
B
J
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
so
just
a
couple
quick
comments.
First,
before
our
question,
we
we
live
at
six
atherton,
so
we're
like
right
at
the
intersection
you're
referring
to
to
and
to.
I
think
it's
sanders
points.
It's
definitely.
It's
definitely
gotten
busier.
There
there's
a
lot
more
angry
horns,
especially
during
rush
hour
after
the
bus
lane
construction.
J
So
you
know
I'm
sure,
there's
more
congestion
there.
I'm
not
sure
the
the
left
turn
lane
onto
atherton
doesn't
seem
to
be
makes
sense
as
a
solution,
but
I
also
don't
think
that,
and
blocking
off
atherton
would
be,
I
think,
would
be
great.
It
would
be
like
one
giant
speed
bump
because
then
you
wouldn't
need
speed
bumps
after
that,
because
the
only
people
driving
on
the
street
would
be
the
people
who
lived
there
wouldn't
be
the
people
who
are
cutting
through
and
speeding
down
the
street.
J
But
I
also
don't
want
to
kick
the
kick
the
problem
over
to
beethoven
either.
I
don't
think
that's
fair,
just
a
couple
of
points
there
and
to
jacob's
points
earlier.
Is
there
a
way
we
could
set
up
just
a
poll
to
to
pull
us
for
idea
the
the
four
options
you
gave
and
maybe
to
offer
other
options
like
a
you
know,
just
some
kind
of
quick
polling
thing,
vote
kind
of.
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
that's
something
we
could
put
together
for
sure,
and
you
know
we
could
share
it
out
to
people
who
you
know
came
to
the
meetings.
I
could
share
it
out
to
the
project
to
the
project
mailing
list.
You
know
we
have
probably
more
than
100
emails.
There
of
people
who
have
signed
up
can
put
it
on
the
project
webpage.
You
know,
I
think
that
could
be
a
good
way
to
get
feedback
on
some
of
the
options,
and
you
know
maybe
have
just
some
more
open-ended
questions
as
well.
J
Not
that
I
have
one
at
the
I
mean
I
really
had
time
to
think
about
it,
but
some
people
may
have
ideas
out
there
and
it's
you
know.
People
at
one
end
of
the
street
are
going
to
have
different
solutions
than
people
at
the
other
end
of
the
street,
and
people
in
beethoven
are
going
to
be
different
than
atherton,
but.
C
J
A
B
G
Go
ahead,
thank
you
for
these
great
ideas
in
response
to
a
commenter
before
who
was
asking
about
general
goals
for
the
project,
I
think
the
goals
are
really
consistent
with
a
lot
of
conversations,
we've
been
having
all
over
the
city
and
finally
have
someone-
and
you
know,
city
hall,
who's
like
doing
working
on
it.
So,
let's
be
glad
for
that
two
questions
one
is:
could
you
restrict
left
turns
onto
beethoven
from
washington
under
option
four
in
order
to
prevent
that
queuing
on
washington
street?
G
It's
really
the
left
turns
that
are
the
killers
and
then
two
it
seems
like
some
of
the
traffic
coming
from
eggleston
over
to
towards
mozart,
street
and
hyde
square
is
probably
going
to
use
bragdon,
then
so
you're
going
to
have
some
of
that
is
going
to
go
through
bragnan
and
as
someone
who's
with
a
home
on
beethoven
street.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
previous
atherton
street
resident
for
his
concern
to
not
shift
the
problem
over
to
us
so
yeah.
G
A
G
Well,
I
hadn't
gotten
that
far
but
yeah
I
don't
know
just.
I
was
wondering
if
you
thought
about
it,
so
so
I
see
the
I
see
the
issues
the
left,
the
left
turns
have
to
happen
somewhere,
so
you
could
shift
them.
They
would
shift
either
take
place.
Then
yeah
at
boyle's
dinner
then
further
down
it
bragged
in.
A
Yeah
and
I
think
if,
if
we
go
back
actually
to
one
of
the
options
here,
this
option,
that
was,
you
know
the
closest
to
the
one
that
we
shared,
or
it
was
basically
the
one
that
we
shared
over
the
summer.
You
know
this
is
the
one
that's
showing
that
like
if
you're
coming
from
the
south,
you
know
headed
northbound
on
washington
street.
You
know
towards
eggleston
square.
A
If
you
couldn't
take
that
left
here
at
atherton
that
you
would
use
most
likely,
for
you
know,
boylston
to
anywhere
you
know
to
to
to
access
the
street.
You
know,
maybe
maybe
some
combination
of
school
and
arcadia
or
you
know
you
could
use
you
know
west
walnut
park.
You
know
another
thing
that
we
had
talked
about
as
well,
that
since
we
have
the
the
map
up
here
is
you
know,
potentially
reintroducing
the
option
of
a
left,
turn
bray
street,
because
right
now
you
can
only
take
a
right
here.
A
So
you
know
that
would
also
offer
an
opportunity
for
people
to
if
you're
coming
from
this
direction
and
again
you
know
our
thinking
is
that
if
we
can
simplify
the
intersection,
we
can
reduce
the
overall
delay
there.
So
you
know
having
to
go
through
an
extra
light,
isn't
quite
the
same
burden
that
it
was
before
right.
So
you
know,
potentially
you
could
continue
through
and
then
use
bray
street
to
go
left
and
then
on
to
atherton.
That
way.
So
that's
just
you
know.
A
These
options
are
there's
there's
four
of
them
here,
but
there
obviously
could
be
further
variations
on
these.
You
know,
as
other
people
have
alluded
to
right
and
again
maybe
it's
none
of
these
are
the
right
solution,
but
you
know
we
wanted
to
put
these
out
for
for
comments,
but
I
appreciate
those
those
comments
and
then
your
other
point
was
about
bragdon
street,
which
I
think
is
this
one
up
here.
Just
off
the
map,
maybe
receiving
more
of
the
burden
of
traffic.
F
Hi
good
evening,
everyone
I
live
on
beethoven
street
and
I
just
oh,
I
have
company,
I
had
two
comments.
The
first
is
actually
regarding
arcadia
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
done
any
studying
on
that
street.
It's
a
very
narrow,
two-way
street
and
just
there
is
definitely
concern
about
the
increase.
It's
already
a
dance
to
be
able
to
go
either
turning
onto
the
school
or
on
to
atherton
and
I'm
just
concerned
about
increased
traffic
there
when
you
have
parking
on
both
sides
of
that
street.
So
that's
just
a
comment.
F
The
other
just
thought
about
parking.
In
general,
there
are
several
business
districts
in
the
area
that
have
had
to
decrease
their
parking
because
of
on-street
dining.
You
know
outdoor
dining
options
have
now
taken
up
space
on
in
street
parking
spots,
and
so
just
offering
that
up.
As
you
know,
all
of
us
are,
you
know
the
business
owners
in
eggleston,
maybe
providing
some
pushback
in
terms
of
reduced
parking,
but
that
is
a
that
is
the
situation
that's
occurring
in
lots
and
lots
of
high
volume
business
districts
around
here.
A
Yeah
yeah
absolutely-
and
I
think,
that's
obviously
another
constituency
that
needs
to
like
weigh
in
on
this
right.
Like
we,
you
know
we
don't
want
to
like,
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
go
with
this
option.
That
removes
like
you,
know,
half
the
parking
on
you
know
the
block
between
school
street
and
and
columbus
ave
for
the
small
business.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
I
mean
we
have
to
weigh
those
considerations
as
well
so
and
then
sorry.
F
I
just
wanted
to
I
it
seemed
like
there
was
a
hard
sell
early
on
in
the
meeting.
It
seems
like
that
hasn't
been
backed
off,
but
just
the
it
seems
to
to
me
to
be
a
really
incremental
improvement
to
move
a
left
turn
onto
beethoven
in
terms
of
the
traffic
flow
like
that
to
say
that
that
would
improve
any
traffic
flow
seems
unlikely
at
best,
just
because
already
once
you
get
closer
to
columbus
at
least
sometimes
people
can
go
around,
but
at
beethoven
you're
just
backing
up
into
the
school
street
intersection.
A
Yep,
no,
I
I
think
I
think
that's
fair,
and
I
think
we
we
tried
to
make
that
point
that
we
actually
don't
necessarily
think
it
would
be
a
lot
better
from
a
traffic
standpoint
like.
Could
it
be
marginally
better,
maybe
a
little
bit,
but
it's
not
that's,
not
the
main
motivation
there.
You
know
like,
certainly
if
you
could
have
an
option
that
you
know
removed
all
of
those
turn
conflicts
that
can
happen
at
washington,
columbus
and
atherton.
A
So
if
you
take
optician
out
of
the
mix
there
or
at
least
take
the
left,
turns
out
of
the
mix,
that's
kind
of
part
of
the
motivation
right,
we
have
a
really
big,
oversized,
complex
intersection
that
we're
trying
to
simplify.
So
that's
kind
of
the
main
thinking
for
why
shifting
it
to
beethoven.
But
again
it
doesn't.
A
None
of
these
are
like
perfect
solutions
right.
They
all
have
trade-offs
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
at
too
is
that,
like
none
of
them
will
make
everybody
happy.
None
of
them
are
perfect
across
the
board.
You
know
we're
trying
to
balance
a
lot
of
considerations
and
but
yeah,
that's
that's
a
that's.
A
very
good
point.
B
K
That's
him
here,
so
I'm
on
athens
street
closer
to
amory.
I'd
first
like
to
make
a
comment.
You
know
I
don't
want
to
inundate
william
with
emails,
but
he's
been
fantastic
at
responding
to
folks
with
comments
with
questions
so
kudos
to
you
on
that,
and
I
agree
with
jacob.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
maybe
a
meeting
you
know
indoors,
where
maybe
we
can
have
a
further
discussion
where
more
community
residents
can
be
in
attendance.
K
K
Would
there
be
any
thought-
and
I
said
I
apologize-
this-
is
not
the
right
meeting
for
it,
but
would
there
be
any
maybe
increasing
that
signal
timing
to
give
a
little
bit
more
time
for
people
to
come
up
a
democrat
or
another
neighbor
suggested?
Well,
maybe,
should
there
be
two
lanes
where
one
lane
could
go
left
and
the
other
lane
could
keep
going
straight?
A
Yeah,
no
thank
you
for
for
those
comments.
So
the
first
one
on
the
timeline
you
know
we've
we
were
actually
talking
internally
as
a
team
today
about
you,
know,
sort
of
what
you
know.
What
could
we
deliver
next
year?
What
might
need
to
you
know
be
delivered
in
the
following
year,
so
you
know,
I
think,
potentially
some
traffic
calming
elements
like
speed,
humps,
you
know,
may
be
able
to
be
implemented
in
the
next
construction
season.
A
So
you
know
we'll
be
talking
probably
summer
at
the
earliest
that
that's
partially
also
because
of
funding,
because
we
need
money
to
we
have
money
for
design
right
now,
but
not
for
construction,
and
so
that
would
become
available
to
us
at
the
start
of
the
next
fiscal
year
right.
So
that
would
be
the
earliest.
We
could
realistically
like
build
anything,
but
you
know
those
are
not
quite
as
heavy
a
lift
as
some
of
the
other
construction
things
that
we
would
want
to
do.
A
You
know
that
might
involve
things
like
traffic
signals
and
you
know
moving
drainage
structures
and
a
bunch
of
other
stuff
like
that.
That
tends
to
be.
You
know
more
more
of
a
heavy
lift
right,
so
so
I
would
say
you
know
that
probably
next
summer
the
earliest
would
be.
You
know
when
we
could
potentially
look
to
start
implementing
some
of
the
traffic
calming
measures
you
know,
maybe
potentially
in
the
springtime
for
some
of
the
stuff.
That's
not
heavy
construction.
A
You
know
like
paint
and
flex
posts
or
stuff
like
that,
but
that's
sort
of
like
the
timeline
as
we
see
it
now
and
again,
all
that's.
Some
of
this
stuff
is
contingent
to
on
just
the
future
sort
of
public
engagement
conversations
right
and
how
those
go
and
what
you
know
what
we
get
to,
because
we
kind
of
want
to
ideally
have
the
whole
project
sort
of
neatly.
Wrapped
up.
You
know
before
we
get,
you
know,
get
things
underway
with
construction.
So
that's
that's
about
the
best.
A
So
you
know
that's
definitely
something
we
we
can
look
at.
You
know
I.
I
can
also
mention
that
just
you
know
two
colleagues
that
are
in
the
sig,
like
my
the
signals
department
at
ptd
and
see
if
they
have
thoughts
on
any
shorter
term
tweaks,
you
know,
because
maybe
it's
just
specific
times
of
day
that
needs
a
little
bit
longer.
You
know
that
sort
of
thing
so
yeah.
A
I
hope
that
answers
that
question
we
will
be
taking
a
look
at
the
the
signal
timings
for
some
of
these
other
intersections
on
on
the
corridor
on
that
part
of
this
project
and
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
follow
up
internally
and
see,
if,
like
I
said,
if
there's
maybe
an
opportunity
for
a
little
more
green
time,
you
know
for
for
dimmick
street,
at
least
during
kind
of
the
hours
where
there's
like
the
most
delay
so
yeah.
Thanks
for
that
feedback.
B
All
right,
william,
I
just
want
to
make
a
deborah
I'm
going
to
meet
you
in
just
a
moment.
I
want
to
make
a
observation.
It's
been
shared
with
us
that
although
people
can
see
the
questions
once
we
respond
to
them,
people
don't
get
to
see
who
asked
the
question.
There's
been
a
few
requests
for
us
to
share
the
q,
a
which,
which
I
think
we
can
do
after
the
meeting
is.
C
L
Yes,
yes,
I
did
it
okay.
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
So
thank
you
for
the
answer
to
that
question
with
respect
to
providing
the
question
and
answers
after
the
meeting,
but
as
the
previous
person
was
speaking
about
the
signaling
at
amory
and
was
that
columbus
ad
there,
I
noticed
that
the
signaling
at
washington
street
at
the
four
corners
right
there
that
we're
talking
about
in
atherton
street
the
signaling
is
much
shorter.
A
A
You
know
all
kinds
of
different
moves
that
need
to
happen
in
the
intersection
right,
so
left
turns
throughs
the
bus
movements,
all
that
stuff
right,
and
so
the
bus
movement
is
a
new
movement
in
that
cycle,
and
you
know
I
don't
know
for
sure
how
much
you
know
like
the
time
on.
Is
it
washington
street
that
you're
talking
about?
Do
you
feel
like
is
shorter?
Is
that
what
you're?
Yes.
L
L
A
Yeah
so
so
like
I,
I
can't
speak
on
authority
with
how
much
it
might
have
changed
previous
to
you
know
other,
like
signal
timings
there,
but
I
can
you
know.
I
can
say
that
I
think
there
probably
is
some.
You
know
by
some
less
time
given
to
that
just
because
of
accommodating
some
some
new,
like
phases
at
the
intersection,
like
the
bus
phase
that
wasn't
there
before
right.
So
I
mean,
I
think,
part
of
like
again.
A
What
this
project
is
proposing
to
do
is
to
consider
you
know
removing
at
least
some
of
the
left
turns
at
the
intersection.
So
you
know
a
good
example.
Is
the
left
turn
from
columbus
ave?
If
you're
headed
like
on
columbus
ave
towards
jackson
square
that
left
turn
there,
you
know
when
that
left
turn
happens.
A
Not
a
lot
else
can
happen
at
the
intersection
right.
Everything
has
to
basically
be
held,
while
we're
waiting
for
those
left
turns
right
right
potentially,
if
we
could
remove
that
phase
and
have
people
make
that
turn
somewhere
else
the
benefit
there
would
be
that
you
know
that's
time
that
we
can
now
give
to
other
stuff
to
move
in
the
intersection
right
and
we
wouldn't
have
to
does
that
make
sense
right.
So
we
wouldn't
need
a
separate
phase
for
the
bus
to
move
through
there.
They
could
go
with
like
the
rest
of
the
traffic.
A
That's
going
through.
So
like
that's
kind
of
some
of
the
thinking
that
we're
doing
for
the
larger
project-
and
you
know
athletic
and
street
is
part
of
that
right
is
is
seeing
like.
Are
there
ways
that
we
can
simplify
things
so
that
we
yeah
basically
can
give
more
time
to
most
of
the
move
like
to
the
moves
that
are
trying
to
to
the
vehicles
that
are
trying
to
make
kind
of
the
dominant
moves
through
the
intersection
which
is
mostly
going
through
right
and
so
anyway,
a
little
context
there.
A
B
B
A
C
Yeah
we've
covered
most
of
these
comments.
The
big
one
of
you
know
one
of
the
threads
is
you
know
again
people
wishing
that
they
could
see
their
neighbors
for
this
conversation,
which
absolutely
makes
sense.
It's
like
the
last
big
common
thread
and
I
think
yeah
as
william
has
said.
That's
we'll
absolutely
address
that
with
upcoming
online
and
personal
engagement
and
again
we
will
send
these
questions
out
so
that,
at
least
in
retrospect
you
will
be
able
to
say
see
who
made
what
comment.
C
B
B
B
K
B
K
I
I'm
sorry
a
neighbor
also
wanted
me
to
ask
you
know:
assuming
we
could
get
speed,
humps
the
speed
humps
themselves,
wouldn't
actually
block
anybody's
driveway.
Does
that
make
sense,
in
other
words,
they're
not
going
to
be
running
in
a
way
that
interferes
with
someone?
I
assume
that
the
answer,
but
I
promised
I
would
ask
the
question
so
just.
B
M
Okay,
thank
you.
This
is
just
to
reiterate
something
I
put
in
chat,
which
is,
I
think
it
was
william
brought
up
the
point
that
none
of
the
parking
spaces
are
metered
at
all,
which
means
people
pretty
much
anywhere
in
eggleston
can
just
park
as
long
as
they
want
and
that
doesn't
help
businesses.
It
doesn't
help
residents
if
there
are
plans
to
start
putting
in
short
term
pickup
like
10
or
15
minute
pickup
spots
that
are
metered.
I
think
that
would
be
a
huge
help
to
businesses
and
I'm
someone
I
travel
on
washington.
M
I
travel
on
columbus.
I
travel
on
atherton
and
I
I
try
to
ride
my
bike
more
just
because
I'm
not
usually
going
that
far
and
there's
just
a
lot
of
double
parking,
because
everyone
just
needs
to
kind
of
just
drop
off
for
one
minute
and
I
get
it.
You
need
to
get
your
pizza.
There's
chinese
food.
There's
like
you,
know
food
all
over
that
you
want
to
pick
up,
but
then
you
have
to
zoom
in
and
out
cars
get
backed
up.
So
I
just
think
I
see
I
saw
that
implemented
in
in
places.
M
I
think
somerville
did
it
during
the
pandemic,
just
because
everyone
was
picking
up
food
and
I
think
it's
a
good
innovation.
We
could
really
help
our
businesses
by
making
it
easier
for
people
to
do
those
things
without
you
know,
making
the
roads
more
dangerous
at
hyde
park
and
a
high
square
in
particular
by
the
rotary.
Always
you
know
backed
up
there.
So
you
all
know
all
this
but
yeah,
but
thanks
thanks.
So
much
for
all
this
information,
it's
a
lot
to
digest,
but
I
really
appreciate
all
the
thought
and
and
the
the
great
responses.
A
Yeah
absolutely-
and
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point
is
you
know,
I
think
the
parking
regulations
need
to
be
a
part
of
this
right,
and
you
know
I
can
say
that
we've
also
had
you
know
we
had
projects
like
when
we
put
in
bus
bike
lanes
on
on
brighton.
Now,
for
instance,
you
know
that
street
has
a
lot
of
similar
kind
of
like
quick.
You
know,
sort
of
casual,
takeout,
dining
places.
A
So
you
know
I
think
meters
are
a
bigger
conversation
with
res.
You
know,
both
with
with
the
businesses
and
and
internally
at
btd.
Trying
to
you
know,
you
would
think
they'd
want
to
expand
meters,
but
anyway,
I
I
think
I
think,
looking
at
parking
regulations
at
a
minimum
and
also
maybe
considering
things
like
metered
parking,
you
know
could
be
part
of
a
you
know
of
the
solution
as
well,
because
you're
right,
it
also
has
traffic
impacts
when
someone's
double
parked.
So
thanks
for
that
feedback
too,
anything
else.
B
G
Well,
I
guess
looking
at
the
the
present
I
mean
just
to
maybe
ask
a
question
about
whether
the
contraflow
bike
lane
or
some
kind
of
some
kind
of
bike
lane
could
be
a
quick,
build
thing
on
atherton
or
something
that
could
be
piloted,
maybe
not
over
the
winter.
But
we
can
plan
for
it
in
the
spring
and
do
it
with
barrels
and
see
how
people
react
and
see
what
it
feels
like
and
kind
of
test
it
out.
A
G
A
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
actually
kind
of
the
direction
we're
going
in
with
you
know
kind
of
a
quick
build
approach.
You
know,
like
you
know,
to
your
point,
like
it
probably
wouldn't
be
like
perfect.
You
know
there
would
be
things
that
we
would
want
to
tweak
in
a
more
permanent
condition,
but
you
know
two
important
pieces
of
the
project
are
thinking
about.
A
So
you
know
those
are
two
locations
where
there's
like
a
pretty
strong
desire
line,
and
you
see
a
good
many
people
riding
the
wrong
way
already
right
on
those
streets,
and
I
feel,
like
you
know
those
are
things
that
we
could
probably
do
in
a
you
know
in
a
tactical
way
pretty
quickly
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
we're
leaning
towards
is
you
know
doing
some.
Some
quick
build
safety
improvements.
A
You
know
we
want
to
look
at
washington
street
and
the
all
the
minor
intersections
along
washington
street.
We
want
to
look
at
the
intersection
itself
and
see
you
know:
are
there
things
that
we
could
do
in
a
tactical,
quick,
build
way
there,
but
then
yeah
the
bike
connections
are
also
something
that
I
think
we
want
to
look
at
as
well
and
see,
because
we
would
like
to
deliver
some
improvements
in
the
coming
year.
Right
and
not
necessarily
wait
for
the
full.
A
So
thanks
for
that
feedback
and
yeah
I
mean
if,
if
you
like,
that
idea,
send
me
an
email.
Tell
me
so
tell
me.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
we'll
have
we'll
we'll
keep
it
in
the
records
and
use
that
when
we're
having
kind
of
the
internal
discussions
about
trying
to
prioritize
these
projects
and
move
them
forward.
B
M
A
It
seems
like
france,
his
question
was
about
parking
permits
like
maybe
resident
parking
permits,
I'm
assuming
possibly
yeah.
I
mean,
assuming
that
that's
kind
of
the
direction
it
was
going
in.
You
know
I
think
like
that,
could
be
something
that
we
consider.
You
know
I'm
not
aware
of
any
projects
where
we,
the
city,
have
recommended
resident
parking
permit
as
part
of
kind
of
a
design,
a
solution
to
a
design
problem
or
a
you
know,
kind
of
a.
A
A
You
know
most
of
the
day,
so
you
know
I
I
think
that
gets
back
to
the
earlier
points
about
how
really
the
regulations
like
around
here
a
lot
of
the
streets
are
unregulated,
so
you
can
park
as
long
as
you
want
as
long
as
it's
not
like.
You
know
street
cleaning
day,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
we
can
look
at
curbside
regulations
like
right
now.
I
think
we're
focused
more
on
the
major
streets
and
trying
to
make
those
work
better.
A
But
you
know
if
you
have
questions
about
her
residential
parking
permits.
You
know
we
can
talk
about
that,
like
the
city
does
have
sort
of
an
established
process
for
how
we
you
know,
we
tend
to
establish
those
which
kind
of
comes
from
more
of
like
a
grassroots
citizen
initiative.
Usually
but
yeah,
that's,
you
know,
sorry,
not
having
more
context
in
the
question,
that's
kind
of
what
I
would
say
to
that
right
now,.
B
It
might
be
easier
to
discuss
out
loud
if
glenn's
willing
to
unmute
the
question
is
the
the
right
hand,
green
arrow
from
columbus
onto
washington
doesn't
activate
until
the
straight
flow.
Green
arrow
turns
red.
It
seems
these
could
be
activated
at
the
same
time
to
add
time
for
other
movements
in
the
traffic
cycle.
J
Sorry
I
knew
that
was
going
to
be
difficult
to
relay
by
a
message
by
a
text.
So
if
you're
driving
up
columbus
going
toward
the
park
going
toward
washington,
there's
a
newly
created
green
arrow.
That
gives
you
a
right
onto
washington
street.
But
that
arrow
stay
and
it
says
no
right
on
red
or
are
only.
J
So
the
if
you're,
going
straight
through
washington
onto
siever
that
light
turns
green.
The
right
turn
arrow
stays
red
and
does
not
turn
green
until
a
couple
seconds
after
the
straight
arrow
onto
siever
turns
red,
which
doesn't
kind
of
make
sense.
It
just
seems
like
it
adds
seconds
of
wasted
time
at
the
at
the
intersection
and
if
you
had
them
green
at
the
same
time,
then
it
would
I
mean
I
like
the
fact
that
there's
a
right
turn
arrow
there.
I
just
think
they
should
be.
J
A
Yep
yeah
so
yeah.
I
suspect
that
the
reason
that
that
arrow
is
there
glenn
is
probably
so
that
we
can
cross
pedestrians
safely
across
washington
street
at
the
same
time
that
the
traffic
on
columbus,
headed
towards
several
street
is
going
through
right
and
if
we
let
those
happen
at
the
same
time,
you
know
we
would
need
to
find
some
other
time
to
get
pedestrians
across
washington
street
right,
because
you
know
it
can't
happen
when
washington
street's
going
when
the
green
light
is
on
for
washington
street.
A
Obviously
I
suspect,
that's
probably
part
of
it
now.
Could
it
be
optimized
a
little
bit
better,
you
know.
Is
there
a
way
that
I
mean
like
I
said
I
don't
have
like
signal
plan
memorized
here.
Yes,
sir,
like
for
every
every
move,
but
but
I'm
I'm
pretty
confident
that
that's
the
reason
why
that
was
put
in
was
you
know,
kind
of
a
safety
measure
and
to
create
some
space
for
people
to
cross
washington
street.
So
it's
actually
the
intersection
we're
looking
at
right
here
right
so
like
if
you're
a
driver,
you
would
be.
A
If
I'm
understanding
you
know,
sitting
kind
of
like.
If
you
look
to
your
right,
this
is
kind
of
what
your
view
would
be
right,
yeah
exactly
yep
yeah.
So
I
I
think
it's
probably
the
reason
the
red
arrow
is
there,
like
I
said,
is
to
to
create
some
time
where
that
that
crosswalk
across
washington
street
can
go
without
any
vehicle
conflicts
but
yeah.
J
A
B
B
D
B
A
Yeah,
my
apologies,
that
we
couldn't
see
each
other
and
see
the
the
comments
and
questions
as
they
came
in
but
yeah
we
will,
you
know
I'll,
try
to
get
the
the
presentation
that
you
saw
tonight
posted
tomorrow
and
then
as
soon
as
we
get
the
the
q
a's,
we'll
we'll
put
those
up
as
well.
So
you
know
in
the
in
the
coming
days.
A
You
know
those
will
be
posted
and
we'll
probably
just
also
just
send
a
follow-up
email
to
to
the
project
mailing
list
and
to
people
who
registered
saying
thanks
to
those
who
joined-
and
you
know
inviting
you
to
follow
up
with
any
questions
and
we'll
you
know,
link
to
those
materials
once
they're
available
online,
so
yep.
Thank
you
again.
Everybody
for
taking
the
time
I'm
out
of
your
evening
to
to
give
us
your
feedback
and
to
have
these
conversations
and
ask
these
questions.