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This is a recording of the Boston Zoning Board of Appeal Subcommittee Hearing held on September 23, 2021. The Zoning Board will hold a vote on whether to approve or reject the subcommittee recommendations at its next full-Board hearing.
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A
To
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fortune
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on
you
at
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appropriate
time.
C
Hearing
none
I'll
go
right
to
the
first
case,
calling
boa
one:
two
one:
five:
nine:
zero:
five:
thirty
four
high
street
just
to
construct
a
new
two-story
addition
onto
an
existing
dwelling.
The
addition
will
feature
a
two
level
oreo
window.
There
will
be
a
new
deck
built
into
the
rear
yard,
which
will
cover
existing
parking
spaces.
The
violations
article
62
section
29
r
street
parking
is
insufficient.
C
C
F
A
F
I
will
the
owners
are
proposing
a
two-story
addition
to
their
property
in
charlestown
on
high
street.
Currently
they
live
in
a
two-story
cottage,
which
is
a
small
building
on
that
parcel.
They
lived
in
charlestown
since
about
2013..
F
F
F
F
Currently
so
they
would
add
a
two-story
addition,
which
would
add
bedrooms
living
space,
and
then
they
would
take
the
existing
parking
spaces
and
cover
that
with
a
deck
to
meet
the
outdoor
space
use,
they
are
not
increasing
the
height
whatsoever
of
the
property
they're,
keeping
it
at
the
same
height
and
instead
of
adding
an
addition
to
the
rear.
F
F
F
The
only
thing
that's
the
issue
here
is
the
setbacks,
the
open
space
and
then
the
parking.
So
with
the
parking.
There
are
two
existing
parking
spaces
there.
They
actually
will
be
increased
somewhat
the
size
of
those,
but
those
are
existing
new
projects.
Now,
residential
projects
in
charlestown
don't
require
parking,
so
we
would
not
be
making
any
change
to
that.
This
would
allow
them
to
continue
to
keep
cars
off
the
street
and
keep
street
parking
open
while
taking
two
cars
off
of
the
street.
A
F
Sorry,
the
parking
spaces
will
stay
as
two
parking
spaces.
Just
the
size
will
just
increase
slightly,
so
the
the
violation
was
for
a
maneuverability
dimension
of
the
parking,
so
the
parking
spaces
are
still
two
spaces
will
remain.
F
Of
the
spaces
the
space
sizes
on
the
plane
there,
let
me
pull
that
up.
C
Was
cited
again,
if
I
could
bob
demiko
spoke
on
this
one,
so
he
might
clarify
this
so
I'll.
Put
his
comments
into
the
record.
His
comments
for
34
high
street
are
as
follows.
Both
spaces
are
too
small
and
do
not
meet
btd
standards.
The
curb
cut
does
not
align
with
the
parked
vehicles.
D
The
plans
are
good.
I
do
have
a
couple
questions
on
this.
One
is
per
the
drawings
and
in
the
proposed
edition
it
appears
you're
covering
up
two
existing
windows
of
the
adjacent
building
in
the
insect
corner.
How
is
that
working.
F
So
by
right
there
allowed
to
extend
the
building
to
the
to
the
abutting
property.
As
far
back
as
it
goes,
those
windows
really
shouldn't
be
there
from
that
abutting
property.
So
what
they're
doing
is
by
right
to
extend
their
current
building
to
the
end,
the
back
of
that
a
budding
property
as
it
is
a
zero
lot
line.
F
Basically,
those
windows
should
never
been
put
in
because
they
are,
as
I
said,
by
right,
the
the
owners
can
extend
their
building
to
the
back
of
that
a
budding
property.
So
what
obviously
happened
is
they
put
those
windows
in?
They
were
not
done
with
the
appropriate,
permitting
or
by
code,
but
just
put
in
there
to
try
and
I'm
not
sure
why
they're
put
in
but
the
windows
don't
actually
add
anything
to
that
property.
Is
they
have
windows
on
the
back
side
as
well?
F
So
it's
really
in
just
a
narrow
space
there,
and
so
the
the
proposal
by
right
would
be
to
just
extend
it.
A
What
is
the
space
between
those
windows
and
the
and
the
edition.
D
F
They
have
spoken
to
the
abutters
they're,
not
in
opposition,
and
it's
been
explained
to
them.
What
the
plans
are.
The
plans
have
been
given
to
them
and
the
the
owners
will
make
the
appropriate
needed
construction
to
to
bait
any
issues
with
the
windows.
They'll
they'll
cover
them
up
for
them.
They'll
support
them
in
any
way
needed
so
that
there's
no
cost
or
damage
to
their
building.
F
D
D
That
in
itself
is
obviously
a
little
bit
concerning,
and
then
you
know
the
fact
that
there
is
this
window
condition
with
the
abutters
and
the
proposed.
I
don't
actually
have
a
problem
with
the
proposed
edition
from
a
sort
of
conceptual.
I
totally
get
it.
I
think
it
makes
sense.
D
It
looks
beautiful,
but
I
think
the
concern
associated
with
you
know
the
butter
covering
the
entire
lot
is
sort
of
what
the
bpda's
concern
is
because
they're
building
a
deck,
then
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
if
if
this
is
really
a
subcommittee
project,
I
feel
like
this
needs
to
go
to
the
full
board.
To
be
honest,
I.
A
C
A
A
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
defer
the
this
project
to
the
full
board.
D
I
I
would
I
would
you
know
like
to
make
that
motion.
You
know,
and
hopefully
we
can
do
that
quickly.
I
don't
know
what
the
requirements
are
in
terms
of
notification,
but
I'll
leave
that
up
to
mr
secretary,
but
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
defer
to
the
full
board.
C
Yeah
I'll
second,
that
motion
mr
robinson,
mr
chair,
we're
going
to
try
to
we're
going
to
fit
this
in
on
the
28th
of
september,
so
next
tuesday
and
it'll
be
at
12
30.
A
Okay
to
the
applicant,
it
would
help
for
us
to
know
what
the
butter
thinks
about
having
their
windows
covered,
among
other
things,
so
yeah.
A
Well,
with
all
due
respect,
I
want
to
hear
it
from
them
and
not
from
the
proponent.
A
C
G
G
Mr
chairman
members,
this
is
an
application
to
provide
residential,
a
new
residential
driveway
to
access
two
off-street
parking
spaces
in
the
rear
of
the
single
family
dwelling
home
by
my
clients
at
777,
east
broadway.
Two
parking
spaces
will
be
located
entirely
in
the
rear
yard.
G
In
order
to
provide
the
driveway
access,
there
would
have
to
be
a
widening
of
an
existing
curb
cut
on
east
broadway.
There
is
currently
a
curb
cut
there,
which
would
be
widened
from
a
dis
from
a
width
of
feet
to
15.1
feet
an
addition
of
5.2
feet
in.
F
G
F
G
G
The
I'm
sorry,
the
existing
width
is
14.3
feet.
The
additional
width
to
increase
the
width
of
the
current
crop
would
be
five
feet.
5.2
feet.
I'm
sorry,
I
believe
mr
fortune
said
5.5,
but
it's
5.2
feet.
The
resulting
driveway
providing
access
would
be
seven
and
a
half
feet.
Seven
points.
G
A
G
That
that's
going
from
the
curb
the
current!
That's.
A
G
The
full
yeah
the
players
exactly
and
that's
that's
shown
on
the
exist,
the
the
curb
cut
side
plan,
which
is
on
the
screen.
So
I
was
counting
that
includes
the
flares
or
didn't
include
the
flares.
I'm
sorry,
I
will
point
out.
I
said
I
represent
kyle
and
jocelyn
gambon,
who
are
the
owners
of
the
property.
Jocelyn
is
the
registered
professional
engineer
who
actually
drew
the
curb
cut
side
plant
site
plan.
So,
if
necessary,
I
would
ask
that
the
jocelyn
who's
on
the
hearing.
A
E
A
E
G
Well,
what
I
was
saying,
mr
ehrlich
chairman,
is
that
there's
an
existing
residential
driveway
to
the
left,
which
is
why
there
is
already
a
curb
cut.
So
this
is
an
extension
of
the
existing
curb
cut
by
5.2
feet
to
accommodate
a
second
residential
driveway.
There's
a
seven
foot
residential
driveway
on
the
left
that
serves
779
east
broadway.
Nothing
to
do
with
this
project.
That
is
an
existing
curb
cut
to.
C
I'm
sorry,
mr
morenzie,
if
I
could
just
let
mr
chair
bob
d'amico
has
spoken
this,
I
don't
know
if
it's
beneficial,
maybe
to
defer.
This
went
to
the
full
board
as
well,
but
regarding
saying
we're
putting
onto
the
record
regarding
777
east
broadway,
he
requested
denial
for
the
following
reasons.
Both
spaces
are
undersized.
The
driveway
is
only
seven
eight
seven
and
a
half
feet
in
width.
A
minimum
should
be
ten
feet
to
allow
safe
access
and
egress
to
the
parking
area
and
maneuverability
is
insufficient.
D
We
go,
can
who's
running
the
slides.
Can
you
go
to
the
first
page
on
command
ambassador?
Sorry,
with
a
survey,
I
just
wanna.
That's
yes,
I
think.
That's
it.
Can
you
zoom
in
on
that?
I
don't
know
if
you
can't.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
too.
I
mean
I
looked
at
this,
but
so
it
looks
so.
D
The
dimensional
characteristics,
I
think,
are
a
little
different
than
we're
used
to
to
be
honest
because
they,
the
14.3,
is
also
including
the
curve
like
the
whatever
you
call
it.
The
granite
turns
so
it
looks
like
it's
more
of
a
maybe
a
10
foot
existing
curb
cut
like
as
we're
traditionally
used
to
or
left
10
and
a
half
or
something
so,
but
it's
it's
it's
feeding
the
property
to
the
left.
Is
that
correct.
G
That
that's
correct
if
I
could
continue
and
that's
the
point
of
trying
to
make
that
there
is
an
existing
curb
cut,
which
provides
which
was
something
approved.
You
know
it's
not
consequential
for
determination.
The
outcome
of
this
appeal,
but
there's
an
existing
seven
foot
residential
driveway,
which
was
approved
for
the
property
at
779,
he's
probably
approved
by
this
board
three
or
four
years
ago
that
residential
driveway
exists.
The
curb
cut,
that
is,
there
exists
in
order
to.
D
Yeah,
if
you,
if
you
zoom
in
a
little
bit
more
you'll,
see
the
dimensions
on
here,
and
I
guess
I
was
trying
to
understand
so
for
the
throat
piece
I
guess
from
once
you
go
on
to
the
through
the
sidewalk
are:
is
that
a
sh
actually
a
shared
space
in
there?
Mr
morantzy,
in
terms
of
I
know,
they're
they're
traversing
a
property
line,
but
is,
is
that
how
they're
seeing
this.
G
So
there's
just
there's:
there's
a
single
curb
cut
that
would
be
widened
by
5.25
feet
that
single,
curb
cut
that's
currently
existing
without
the
widening
to
5.25
feet
currently
provides
access
to
the
seven
foot
residential
driveway
at
779
east
broadway,
with
the
increased
widening
of
that
by
5.2
feet.
G
My
clients
would
have
a
7.5
foot
wide
residential
driveway,
providing
access
to
the
two
parking
spaces
in
the
rear
which
are,
admittedly,
you
know,
not
both
well,
actually,
I
think
they
could
be
eight
and
a
half
by
twenty.
There
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
space
there,
but
these
aren't
required
off
street
parking
spaces.
G
I
think,
if
again,
I
can't
control
what
the
board
is
looking
at,
but
there
is
a
perpendicular
space
which
is
approximately
20
feet
in
length
by
eight
and
a
half
feet
wide,
and
then
there
is
a
I'm
sorry
parallel
space
and
a
perpendicular
space,
which
is
somewhat
smaller.
The
violations
here,
I'm
gonna.
A
G
That,
yes,
so
the
indication
there
is
two
you
know
two
parking
spaces.
One
is
parallel
to
the
driveway.
There's
a
there's,
a
dimension
there
of
18
feet
in
length,
so
it's
shorter
than
that.
There's
a
a
perpendicular
space
which
is
indicated
below
that,
as
as
the
board
views
the
plants.
A
Yeah,
okay,
we
can
we
get
it
now,
so
you've
got
so.
I
I
it's
hard
for
me
to
imagine
that
we
approved
a
seven
and
a
half
foot
or
seven
foot
driveway.
I
mean
we
never
approved
driveways
that
are
smaller
than
10
feet
and
now
you're
asking
for
another
one.
That's
also
undersized
a
budding
one.
That's
currently
undersizing
I
mean
how
do
you
even
get
a
sizable
car
through
a
seven
foot,
driveway.
G
So
well,
we
can
speak
to
that.
I
have
to
point
out,
mr
oath,
that
there's
no
zoning
violation
and-
and
I
realize
that
mr
nico
has
has-
has
offered
his
input
on
this.
The
only
violations
here
are
for
the
width
of
the
driveway
which
which
enough
for
the
width
of
the
parking
spaces
or
the
size
of
the
parking
spaces.
G
The
width
of
the
driveway,
which
is,
as
the
chair
says,
undersized
at
seven
and
a
half
feet,
which
is
a
half
foot
wider
than
the
driveway,
which
was
approved
on
the
left,
which
I
realized
has
no
bearing
on
this
yeah.
A
D
G
It
is,
and
mr
robinson.
G
Yeah,
it's
a
single
family
and
it
it
might
benefit
us
all
if
jocelyn
gambone
wore
to
be
unmuted
and
allowed
to
speak
aside
from
being
the
property
owner.
She
is
the
professional
engineer
and,
and
the
author
of
the
the
site
plan
that
we're
viewing.
So
if,
if
that
could
be
accomplished,
I
I
think
it
might.
D
Be
happening
I'll
I'll,
be
honest,
I
don't
I
I
think
it's
fine,
I
mean
I'm
okay
with
it.
I've
reviewed,
I
I
understand
it's
not
traditional,
but
I
think
to
me
based
on
the
condition
I
mean
I
don't
know
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it
and
I
I
think
it's
a
minimal
adjustment
to
one
side
of
the
curb
cut
to
accommodate
two
off
street
parking.
I
mean
it's,
it's
not
perfect,
but
you
know.
I
think
I
don't
necessarily
have
an
issue
with
it.
In
terms
of
I
mean
I
think
we
can.
D
A
I
I
actually
would
like
to
hear
the
problem,
because
a
seven
foot
driveway
is
not
something
I
mr
ramsey
says
we
approved
it
before
on
the
the
budding
building.
I
I
don't
recall
in
my
entire
tenure
on
this
board,
never
approving
a
driveway
that
undersized
so
I
would
I
mean,
there's
them
some
cars
that
simply
wouldn't
fit
sure.
So
I
you
know
I
I'm
willing
to
hear.
If
a
proponent
is
an
engineer,
I'm
willing
to
hear
what
she
has
to
say.
J
Hi
everyone
good
evening,
it's
jocelyn
gimbone,
I
am
the
homeowner.
I
can't
speak
to
the
property
next
door
and
the
approval
process
there,
but
at
seven
and
a
half
feet
those
compact
parking
spaces
that
are
eight
feet
wide
which
allow
you
know,
doors
to
open
and
people
took
it
out.
So
at
seven
and
a
half
feet
to
traverse
down
the
driveway
without
opening
up
a
door
would
be
more
than
sufficient
in
my
opinion,
and
we
do
have
room
to
maneuver
two
cars
back
there.
J
I
think
one
thing
that's
important
to
point
out
in
apologies.
George,
if
you
already
did,
is
that
the
the
widening
of
the
curb
cut
does
not
result
in
any
loss
of
on-street
parking,
so
we're
just
widening
that
curb
cut
a
little
bit
and
then
we
can
get
two
cars
off
the
street
with
no
loss
of
on
street
parking.
A
The
possibility
of
I
mean
I
can't
quite
tell
from
these
drawings,
what's
the
possibility
of
having
a
curb
cut,
split
the
difference
between
the
two
driveways
and
and
be
smaller
and
allow
access
to
each
each
driveway
from
the
street.
J
That
would
require,
I
guess,
modifications
to
our
a
butters
configuration.
I
don't
know
what
the
process
is
for
that
if
we
could
adjust
the
carb
cut
and
center
it.
I
personally
have
no
issue
with
that.
But
again
I
don't
don't
know
what
the
process
would
be
for
the
neighbor,
so
we.
J
Any
work
you
know
that
would
affect
their
driveway,
obviously,
and
just
impact
our
side
of
the
property
line.
J
So
we'd
be,
we
would
pay,
we
would
put
permeable
pavers
right
up
to
the
property
line,
the
width
of
the
actual
pavement
on
the
abutters
driveway.
You
know
it
does
vary
in
width,
but
they
left
roughly
six
inches
from
the
property
line
to
the
edge
of
their
pavement.
D
I
mean
mr
erlick,
I
like
your
thought.
I
don't
know
if
it's
feasible,
if
you
know
just
rework
the
curb,
so
both
could
use
it
and
go
from
there.
I
mean,
if
there's
a
concern
about
the
oversized
curb
cut.
What
do
you
have
a
dimension
of
the
actual
clear
throat
width,
because
that's
kind
of
I
think
a
little
bit
more
traditionally
how
we
think
about
that,
like
it's,
not
dimensioned
on
these
drawings,
I
don't
know
exactly
yeah.
J
Roughly
be
usually,
those
are
two
foot
curved
stones,
though
so
you
just
subtract
four
feet
so.
D
A
All
right,
well:
how
about
this?
How
about
we
we
we
entertain
a
motion
that
would
allow
for
approval,
but
with
btd.
A
A
A
I'm
true
true
enough,
thank
you
thank
you,
for
that
is
there.
Anybody
here
would
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
proponent.
K
Hi,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
board
haley
dylan,
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services.
The
mayor's
office
would
like
to
go
on
record
in
support
of
this
proposal.
Like
was
stated
before
our
main,
we
want
to
recognize
that
we
did
get
letters
of
opposition,
but
the
opposition
was
just
based
on
losing
an
off
street.
I
mean
an
on-street
parking
space
and,
as
it
was
stated
multiple
times
it,
no
off-street
parking
is
going
to
be
lost.
Thank
you.
B
E
B
Chairman
members
of
the
world-
and
I
call
it
from
councillor
fling's
office-
the
counselor
provided
an
opposition
letter
to
the
board
this
week
to
the
zoning
release
so
by
this
applicant.
Regarding
this
skirt
class,
he
had
her
concerns
from
neighbors
that
this
proposal
will
take
away
parking
in
the
area
where
parking
is
limited.
We
received
of
opposition
from
soma
borders,
neighbors
and
the
city
point
neighborhood
association,
who
are
concerns
about
this
proposed
cargo
extension.
Thank
you.
C
H
One
second,
all
right,
let
me
just
see
if
that's
the
same,
caller
two
is
that
you
six
one
seven
two,
six
nine
is
that
you
eileen?
Oh
no!
This
is
diane
smith.
Okay,
go
ahead,
miss
smith,
can
you
state
your
name
and
add
us
for
the
record?
Please
sure.
L
Diane
smith,
776,
east
broadway,
okay,
go
ahead
and
my
issue
may
have
been
addressed,
but
I'm
not
sure
because
one
of
the
gentlemen
recommended
a
single
curb
cut,
not
more
than
10
feet
wide.
So
does
that
mean
the
total
driveway
would
be
10
feet
wide?
Because
when
I
went
over
to
measure
myself,
the
entire
driveway,
including
the
flashes
were,
was
a
172
inches
which
is
14.33
feet
and
if
you
take
out
the
flashes,
that's
10
feet.
H
So
we're
here
giving
testimony
at
this
point
but
we'll
maybe.
L
Okay,
well
then,
let
me
just
I'll
just
add
one
comment.
Then
I
had
added,
if
you
added
three
and
a
half
feet
that
would
make
the
driveway
214
inches
wide,
which
would
be
17.8
feet,
and
I
guess
I
was
wondering
you
know.
I
think
the
5.2
inches
might
be
a
little
too
much.
L
A
We
will,
when
we
get
to
our
deliberations,
we
will
take
that
in
all
into
account.
But,
yes,
those
are
the
concerns.
We
were
that
we
were
raising
as
well.
Okay,
anybody.
M
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
okay,
good
afternoon,
mr
eric
and
board
luanne,
o'connor,
sixth
shepton,
paris,
south
boston,
chair
city,
point
neighborhood
association,
so
the
city
point
neighborhood
association
voted
to
oppose
the
original
proposal,
for
this
curb
cut
a
while
back.
I
can't
remember
the
year
that
it
was
before
subcommittee
and
the
concerns
are
in
fact
the
length
of
that
curb
cut.
M
So
I
noticed
that
btd
weighed
in
and
I'm
wondering,
is
it
possible
to
have
a
city
official
from
btd,
or
perhaps
somebody
from
the
board
come
out
and
look
at
these
measurements,
because
many
of
us
have
actually
tried
to
measure
and
we're
just
not
coming
up
with
the
same
thing
that
the
proponents
are
so
with
the
five
feet
that
would
bring
that
curb
cut
beyond
where
their
house
comes
out.
So
if
you
bring
that
house
straight
out,
that
curb
cut
appears
to
be
going
beyond
that
line
as
well.
M
So
there
are
a
lot
of
questions.
I
guess
that
we
still
need
information
on
and
I
would
like
to
see
if
that
would
be
a
possibility
and
the.
K
M
The
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
say
was
that
I
like
the
idea,
if
seven,
seven,
nine
and
seven
seven
seven
could
work
together
to
make
one
curb
cut
to
access
both
properties.
M
A
Again,
the
only
problem
is
that
we
can't
impose
anything
on
the
a
bunny,
but
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Anybody
else.
A
All
right
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
we
are
mr
robertson.
I
think
we
are
at
where
we
were
before
and
I
think
the
entertaining
emotion
to
try
to
keep
the
curb
cut
to
the
standard
size.
An
involved,
btd
review,
I
think,
would
be
useful.
Yeah.
D
I
I
I
think,
that's
a
fair
kind
of
a
conclusion.
I
I
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve,
with
the
proviso
proponent,
will
work
with
btd
on
a
resolution
of
the
curb
cut
that
meets
city
standards
for
this
sort
of
residential
size,
and
I.
C
C
C
N
Sure
this
is
a
fairly
modest
proposal.
It
would
take
an
unfinished
basement
of
a
single
family
and
convert
it
into
a
functional
unit.
Historically,
this
house
was
a
multi-family
property.
It
originally
started
out
as
a
three
family
for
many
years
it
was
a
two
family
and
approximately
10
years
ago
the
owner
converted
it
into
a
single
family,
the
owner
now
desi
desires
to
make
it
back
into
two
functional
units.
N
It
is
surrounded
by
multi-family
houses
on
both
sides
and
both
sides
of
the
street,
and
many
of
the
basements
on
that
street
are
also
functional
units.
A
Okay,
as
as,
typically
with
this
board,
we
don't
don't
necessarily
have
a
problem
expanding
going
from
a
single
to
a
two,
but
our
issue
about
making
a
basement
level
of
space
depends
on
the
relationship
between
the
floor
and
the
grade
and
whether
these
are
largely
underground
or
not.
So
could
you
please
give
us
the
dimensions
of
florida
grade
and
is
there
a
change
in
the
topography
of
the
lot?
Is
it
higher
at
one
point
lowered
another?
So
just
talk
walk
us
through
that.
N
I
don't
believe
there
is
a
change
in
the
topography
of
the
lot.
It
is
a.
It
is
a
brick
home
where
they
will
be
renovating
the
existing
basement.
There
will
be
sprinklers
inserted
in
the
construction
and
there
will
be
rare
egress,
which
is
now
currently
a
bulkhead
on
the
property.
N
O
Matt
wells
with
tremont
construction,
so
I'm
I'm
the
builder
who
has
who
had
filed
the
original
building.
Permit.
We
worked
through
that
appeals
process
with
isd
which
granted
us
the
the
sprinkler
for
the
in
exchange
for
the
one
means
of
egress.
O
A
O
And
how.
D
Again,
this
is
a
one
that
I
I'm
not
sure
what
we
should
be
weighing
in
on.
To
be
honest,
because
I
think
it's
again
it's
it's
not
as
simple
as
I
think
the
proponent
is
sort
of
advocating.
I
understand
the
kind
of
concept
it
is,
but
I
also
see
I
I
believe,
a
lot
of
problems
with
what's
actually
being
proposed
from
a
it
is
a
studio
unit
and
there's
gas
utility
closets
water,
heater
closets
that
are
opening
directly
into
the
unit
which
is
not
allowed
in
a
multi-family.
D
Those
have
to
be
segregated
out
of
the
living
space.
You
can
so,
I
think,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
issues
here.
To
be
honest,
that
are
not
even
just
zoning
related,
so
I
I
would
probably
recommend
you
know
defer
to
the
full
board
and
I
also
think
there's
no
dimensional
characteristics
of
how,
with
the
questions
you're
asking
in
terms
of
how
high
to
the
the
grade-
and
so
I
think
we
we
need
to
to
punt
this.
I
think,
unfortunately,.
A
D
I
was
I'm
leaning
in
that
direction,
but
I
hate
that
people
get
to
this
point
and
we
do
that,
but
I
think
that's
probably
the
right
move
on
this
one,
just
because
I
think
there's
enough
unquestionable
sort
of
conditions
that
I
they're
going
to
get
flagged
later
in
in
building
code
review
or
something
that
I
don't
think
will
be
acceptable.
So
I
think
we
should
I'm
I'm
happy
to
make
that
motion
if
well,.
A
We
need
to
take
testimony
first,
so
is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
proponent.
K
Hi,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
board,
haley
haley
dillon
mayor's
office.
Neighborhood
services
would
like
to
go
work
in
support
of
this
proposal.
I'm
sure
the
apple
can
speak
more,
but
this
is
a
a
different
situation
where
the
families
are
living
together.
They
see
their
own
separate
space,
so
I
think
what
you
guys
talked
about
with
the
the
things
having
to
be
separated
from
a
different
unit.
K
Again,
I
don't
know
all
of
that,
but
that
it
would
be
a
little
bit
different
because
they're
the
same
family
living
under
the
same
place.
They
just
need
the
same.
They
see
different
spaces,
so
that
know
about
us
are
opposed,
but
we'd
like
to
go
market
and
support.
Thank
you.
A
Just
to
comment
on
that
you
know
when
we
make
these
decisions
we
make
them
for
the
property
and
not
the
particular
situation
of
who
happens
to
be
living
there
at
the
given
moment,
because
they
may
not
be
there
in
10
years.
So
we
need
to
think
about
how
the
property
is
going
to
be
used
in
the
future.
So
anybody
any
other
testimony.
B
I
Mr
chairman,
john
john
walsh,
I
am
a
resident
of
the
the
property
and
part
of
the
family
applying
for
the
for
the
variances.
I
I
There
have
already
been
some
discussions
with
the
with
the
design
team
surrounding
consolidating
some
of
those
utility
boxes
together
in
the
common
area,
space
that
is
found
in
the
design
at
the
bottom
of
the
stairs
that
come
from
the
upstairs
unit.
I
So
I
I
apologize.
I
I
did
not
necessarily
realize
that
that
would
come
up
as
an
issue
here
today,
but
that
is
something
that
we're
already
pursuing
in
terms
of
a
intended
design
change
to
move
those
utilities
to
the
to
the.
A
I
So
here's
the
problem
we're
technically
accessed
by
both
by
both
units.
Okay,
I
thought
I
would
speak
to
that
piece,
particularly
I
I
could
certainly
elaborate
and
and
further.
A
Okay,
we
we
only
can
approve
what's
in
front
of
us,
so
it
may
be
extremely
well
intentioned.
Then
you
may
have
already
thought
about
these
issues,
but
the
drawings
that
we
have
the
project
that
is
in
front
of
us
does
not
include
those
elements.
So
if
that's
the
case
that
we
have
a
number
of
administrative
options
to
push
the
the
project
back,
so
you
can
come
in
with
a
set
of
plans
that
shows
all
the
elevations
and
answers
the
questions.
A
I
asked
about
height
and
grade
and
also
deals
with
the
issues
that
mr
robinson
raised
about
about
isolating
the
utilities
from
from
the
living
space.
But
that's
not
what,
but
we
don't
have
those
answers
now
and
we
and
we
can't
act
without
them.
So
is
there
anybody
else
who
wants
to
testify.
H
H
A
D
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
defer,
I
think
I
think,
there's
merit
here,
I'm
not
sort
of
judging
on
that.
I
think
we
just
need
a
little
bit
more
information
to
make
the
decision,
so
I'd
make
a
motion
to
defer
to
give
the
proponent
some
time
to
clean
up
the
drawings,
make
sure
we
have
the
information
that
we
talked
about
in
terms
of
understanding
the
grade
the
height
to
grade
the
windows
to
grade
and
then
be
willing
to
listen
to
it
at
a
further
date.
C
I
would
tend
to
agree
with
you,
mr
robinson,
and
we'll
try
to
get
an
october
date
here.
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
day
it
is
right
now.
A
Right
and
I
would
agree
as
well-
I'm
not
sure
that
I
would
say
that
the
proposal
has
merit,
because
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know,
because
we
don't
have
enough
information
so,
but
I
think
all
three
of
us
are
agreed
on
the
appropriateness
of
a
of
a
deferral.
A
So
so
that's
that's
the
motion
and
it
passes.
D
Actually,
can
I
secretary
so
I
I
think,
and
I'm
not
not
judging
here,
but
they
will
need
to
resubmit
plans
to
isd
which
will
need
two
weeks,
probably
for
review.
I
think
the
date
should
be
further
out,
but
I
don't
want.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
time
for
isd
to
review
if
they're
going
to
update
their
plans,
but.
C
C
C
Okay,
we'll
come
back
to
it.
Thank
you.
The
next
case
calling
doa
one
two:
zero
six,
seven,
six
six.
Ninety
nine
woodrow
avenue
just
to
confirm
occupancy
is
an
existing
single
family,
extending
his
distant
dormer
to
the
right
side
of
the
home
by
five
foot,
eight
and
adding
a
lolly
column
in
the
basement.
C
P
Okay,
so
we
proposed
to
change
the
two
side:
roof
rafters
on
the
existing
dormer
on
the
right
side
of
the
home.
The
existing
roof
was
rotten,
so
we
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
adjust
the
roof
rafters
from
six
feet
to
eight
feet,
to
make
the
height
suitable
for
a
shower.
A
Q
D
A
Okay,
is
there
anybody
here
to
speak
in
on
behalf
of
the
proponent.
R
Yes
good
evening,
mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
dante
p,
with
somebody
else
in
neighborhood
services.
I
would
like
to
go
on
record
and
support
of
this
proposal.
R
There
was
an
abutters
meeting
held
on
july
14th
by
the
often
neighborhood
services,
where
neighbors
and
the
butters
had
their
questions
answered
adequately
and
no
major
concerns
raised.
Then
the
applicant
went
before
the
woodruff
neighborhood
association
on
july
15th,
where
support
was
shown
for
the
proposal
again.
The
mayor's
office
would
like
to
go
on
record
in
support
of
this
proposal,
as
the
applicants
have
been
have
received,
many
names
of
a
butters
and
neighbors
in
support
on
support
positions,
as
well
as
a
letter
of
support
from
the
woodrow
live
neighborhood
association.
Thank
you.
A
C
Else
yeah,
mr
chair,
we
do
have
five
signatures.
Five
signature
pages
and
support.
H
No
sorry,
I
have
no
raised
hands
at
the
moment.
Thank
you.
D
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
I'll.
Second,
that
motion.
C
Follow
the
next
case
calling
boa
one
two,
two:
eight
seven:
zero
one:
nine
blake
street.
This
will
construct
a
third
story:
bedroom
edition
the
violations,
article
69,
section
23..
This
is
the
neighborhood
design,
article
6969.
The
bill
has
accepted
excessive
in
stories
and
article
69
section.
Nine.
The
side
yard
is
insufficient
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
S
Okay,
I'm
the
builder
here
representing
ramona
silva
and
her
son
that
live
in
a
side-by-side
two
family,
we're
proposing
a
third
floor
addition
to
add
an
identical
bedroom
on
each
side.
S
D
T
Hi
good
evening,
mr
chair
members
of
the
board
danielle
fonseca
with
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
our
office
would
like
to
go
on
record
in
support
of
this
proposal.
The
applicants
notified
all
the
butters
and
a
community
meeting
was
held
by
our
office
on
monday
july
19th,
where
no
concerns
were
raised
by
community
members.
The
applicant
has
been
a
long
time
resident
of
boston
and
this
neighborhood
and
also
has
a
good
relationship
with
their
neighbors
and
community
leaders
in
the
area.
T
The
applicants
have
also
mentioned
that
they
are
looking
to
just
add
room
for
their
family,
so
our
office
does
not
believe
that
this
will
negatively
impact
the
community
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
move
forward.
Thank
you.
A
A
All
right
motion
passes
with
design
design
review.
Okay,.
C
Calling
the
next
case
calling
boa
one
two
one:
three:
zero
six
eight
eighteen
prescott
street
this
is
to
confirm
a
single
family
dwelling
change
arc
from
a
single
to
a
two
family
dwelling
and
legalize
the
two
family
dwelling
and
extension
of
living
space
into
the
attic.
The
violations
article
69
section
29
on
street
parking
is
insufficient.
Article
69,
section
8,
true
family
dwelling
use
is
forbidden,
article
69
69,
the
fluid
a
ratio
is
excessive.
C
C
Okay,
we'll
come
back
to
it.
Okay,
go
to
the
next
case,
calling
voa
118-0850-302
lama
teen
street.
This
is
to
demolish
the
existing
front
and
rear
decks
and
construct
new
front
and
rear
porches,
replace
the
executing
slate
and
mansion
roof
with
new
slate
violations.
Article
55,
section,
9,
side
yard
setback
is
insufficient.
Radical
5569
rare
yard
is
insufficient
in
article
55
section
41
the
front
model
alignment
with
an
existing
block
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
U
Okay,
this
is
beth
warrell,
I'm
the
architect,
164
arbor
way
to
make
a
plane.
This
is
a
a
single
family.
Actually,
oh,
go
that's
okay!
I
was
just
gonna
suggest
that
you
show
the
photographs
first,
if
you
have
them
it's
kind
of
a
little
more
explanatory.
U
So
just
stop
there
a
second.
So
it's
a
single
family.
It's
an
existing
pork
chop
lot
and
the
house
is
crowded
almost
all
the
way
up
to
the
rear
property
line,
which
you
can
see.
If
you
go
when
you
go,
we
go
to
the
site
plan,
but
I
just
wanted
to
walk
you
through
these.
U
So
so
this
was
basically
the
project
that's
proposed
is
to
remove
an
existing
deck,
which
you
can
see
in
that
photograph
of
the
front
elevation,
literally
a
deck,
not
a
porch
on
the
front
of
the
building
and
to
replace
it
with
an
actual
roofed
porch,
more
consistent
with
jamaica,
plain
architecture.
U
The
rear
also
has
a
deck
jammed
in
I'm
quite
sure.
These
were
not
built
per
per
with
a
permit,
and
the
proposal
back
there
is
to
demolish
the
deck
and
just
have
a
very
small
stoop
and
stairs
down
from
the
back
door
to
an
on-grade
terrace.
So
it
would
actually
improve
the
privacy
of
the
neighbors,
because,
right
now
you
know
they're
raised
up
three
feet
and
look
right
over
the
fence
on
two
sides
into
their
butters
yards.
A
Go
ahead,
yeah
on
the
front
is
the
footprint
of
the
new
proposed
roofed
porch
the
same
as
the
existing
deck.
U
U
It's
it's
pretty
much
the
same
width
as
the
deck,
but
slightly
wider,
because
they're
bringing
it
out
to
the
edges
of
the
house.
A
And
the
in
the
rear,
you're
taking
something
that's
currently
fairly
large
and
replacing
something
smaller.
Yes,
what's
the
difference
in
so
if.
U
Well,
if
you
look
at
a1,
you
can
see
the
existing
deck
is
seven
foot
eight
out
into
the
house,
I'm
sorry
that
doesn't
have
a
by
12
feet.
You
can
see
it's
filling
up
that
whole
space
and
the
proposed
stoop
is
just
three
and
a
half
by
four
and
a
half
feet.
Okay,
it's
just
fitting
it.
You
know,
literally,
that
you
can
step
out
on
and
walk
down
to
the
okay.
A
U
U
U
V
Yes,
mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
conor
newman
with
the
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services.
Let's
go
on
record
and
support
this
proposal.
The
applicant
went
before
the
jamaica,
plain
neighborhood
council
zoning
committee
on
july,
7th,
where
they
were
vote
where
they
received
their
support
for
the
proposal
through
the
abutters
process
conducted
by
the
previous
liaison
lindsay
santana,
no
concerns
were
raised
and
the
mayor's
office
does
not
believe
this
will
negatively
impact
the
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
C
Calling
the
next
case
calling
doa
one
two:
zero
three,
eight
seven,
five:
seventy
three
pershing
road
this
is
to
extend
living
space
to
the
basement
for
unit
one
finishing
632
square
feet
of
unfinished
basement
space
to
increase
livable
area
for
unit
one
project
scope
to
include
new
access
there
from
unit
one,
a
children's
playroom
game
room
full
bath
and
kitchenette
the
violations,
article
55
69
excessive
far.
I'm
sorry
far
is
excessive
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
W
Hi,
my
name
is
meg
o'brien,
I'm
an
architect
on
the
project
representing
bob
and
jane
cohen,
at
73
person
street.
As
you
stated,
it
is
an
owner
of
occupied
unit
they're,
just
looking
for
for
some
additional
square
footage
for
care
that
they're
providing
to
their
two
grandkids.
So
the
goal
of
this
project
is
to
just
get
them
kind
of
their
own
space.
W
It's
632
square
feet
of
finished
basement
space.
The
ceiling
height
is
seven
four,
and
I
did
just
check
to
see
floor
to
grade
we're
at
about
five
feet.
The
existing
far
is
0.75,
and,
with
this
finished
basement
area,
it
will
go
up
to
0.667,
so
we're
just
about
0.07.
Over
far.
A
Seven
four-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
single
family
right.
A
Okay,
my
understanding
in
the
two
family
that
you
that
the
minimum
see
florida
ceiling
height
is
seven
foot
six.
A
D
A
D
A
What
is
the
egress
from
this
basement?
Expanded
space.
A
Can
can
we
see
them
on?
So
let
me,
let
me
tell
you
what
we
are
concerned
about
sure
we're
concerned
about
there's
a
key
you're,
putting
a
kitchenette
in
there,
and
the
concern
is
that
at
some
point,
if
there's
a
kitchen
up
there
and
the
two
means
of
egress,
that
it
would
become
a
separate
unit
in
and
of
itself,
either
to
be
rented
or
if
it's
owned,
sold
or
whatever,
and
so
we
have
been
historically
reluctant
to
include
our
kitchens
in
these.
In
the
this
type
of
extended
living
space.
W
Okay,
so
for
even
in
a
very
small
scope,
the
idea
behind
the
kitchenette
itself
is
that
bob
and
jane
would
be
providing
care
to
their
grandkids
in
the
basement
level
and
that
they
wouldn't
want
to
be
going
up
and
down
the
stairs
all
day.
So
this
is
just
a
really
small,
it's
tucked
into
that
bay
window,
so
it
would
just
be
like
an
under
counter
fridge,
a
very
small
sink
and
like
a
small
counter
space.
D
D
V
Mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
conor
newman
with
the
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services,
led
going
back
to
support
this
proposal.
The
mayor's
office
at
this
time
is
unaware
of
any
concerns
from
abutters.
Regarding
this
modest
proposal,
there
might
be
some
opposition.
They
did
not
have
a
chance
to
meet
with
the
local
neighborhood
civic
association.
D
A
And
I
will
agree
so
the
motion
passes
good
luck.
C
Following
your
next
case,
calling
voa,
121,
3674,
26
bertson
avenue
this
is
to
confirm
occupancy
as
a
single
family,
an
addition,
a
second
story
and
a
rare
deck
of
an
existing
single
story.
Home
proposed
house
will
have
three
bedrooms:
two
full
baths:
a
half
bath
floor,
open
kitchen
design,
dining
living
room
and
access
to
the
basement.
The
lot
is
a
non-conformant
four
thousand
six
point,
eight
square
feet
and
the
lot
size
and
zoning
is
six
thousand
square
feet.
C
A
Can
you
tell
us
what
you
what
you're
proposing.
Y
So
I
am
the
owner
occupant.
I
am
proposing
a
second
story
addition
to
my
current
bungalow.
It
would
open
up
the
first
floor
plan,
allow
for
a
open
kitchen
and
then
the
second
story,
the
bedrooms.
The
two
on
the
first
floor
would
move
up
to
the
second
story
and
then
a
porch
in
the
front,
as
well
as
a
deck
in
the
back.
A
Okay-
and
this
is
a
single
family,
it's.
A
Okay
and
how
does
this
compare
with
the
height
and
compare
with
other
homes
in
the
neighborhood.
Y
It's
in
line
with
the
other
neighborhood
most
are
two-story
homes.
This
is
probably
the
smallest
house
on
the
street
and
it
would
still
stay
under
it.
Wouldn't
the
direct
neighbor
would
still
have
the
same
roof
height.
D
Drawings
are
good,
and-
and
I
concur,
I
think
that
you
know
there's
a
mix,
but
most
of
them
are
mainly
twos
and
I
have
no
questions.
This
is
looks
pretty
straightforward
to
me.
Thank
you.
C
H
We
do
have
someone
who's
interested.
In
speaking,
I
should
just
let
me
know
in
the
chat
one
second
peggy
go:
have
you
been
on
muted?
Can
you
state
your
name
and
address
please
for
the
record.
Z
Z
The
question
came
up
about
the
deck
that's
been
proposed
and
I
believe
it
was
you
and
your
architect
who
confirmed
verbally,
that
there
will
not
be
a
deck
because
it
would
be
too
costly,
but
in
any
case
no,
no
there's
no
deck,
also
brought
up
at
that
neighborhood
meeting
was
the
the
fact
that
there
is
no
driveway
showing
on
the
plans
we've
seen,
which
go
back
well
over
a
year
and
we've
been
told
again
at
that
neighborhood
meeting
told
that
there
will
be
a
driveway.
Z
Z
I
think
that,
what's
in
front
of
us
is
a
set
of
plans
that
do
not
carefully
accurately
match
what
the
proponents,
what
the
owner
and
his
team
are
hoping
to
do,
and
I
would
like
to
see
a
better
set
up
to
date,
plans
firefighting,
the
deck,
because
we
were
told
in
june
no
deck
now
he's
james
just
said:
oh,
yes,
we're
going
to
have
a
deck,
and
the
driveway
and
parking
have
not
been
addressed
at
all.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
testimony,
mr
robinson,
can
you
speak
to
this.
D
So
there
are
decks
shown
on
the
drawings
front
and
rear,
so
I'm
not
sure
who
the
the
butter
is
if
they're
speaking
about
the
front
deck
or
the
rear
and
the
side
plan
is
sort
of,
I
would
agree
silent
on
the
parking
which
shows
a
it
looks
like
a
existing
single
curb
cut
in
you
know
one
space
existing.
I
assume
that
was
just
remaining
as
is,
but
the
proponent
can
clarify
that.
Y
Yep
there
is
an
existing
driveway
and
nothing
about
that.
Driveway
is
changing
and
the
rear
deck.
I
think
it
was
on
the
plans
that
we
showed
the
first
time
and
we
had
that
up
for
discussion,
because
we
were
still
looking
at
costs,
and
so
the
costs
were
comparable
when
we
changed
some
options
around
for
the
deck,
so
we
moved
to
a
deck
instead
of
a
patio.
D
A
D
C
I
will
second
that
motion
all
right
and
I'll
support
it
as
well.
The
motion
passes
following
the
next
case,
calling
boa
one
two,
three
four,
two,
six
one,
thirty
four
more
erode.
This
is
remove
the
existing
masonry
stairs
replaced
with
a
wood
frame
porch
and
stairs
the
violations.
Article
56
section,
eight
dimensional
regulations,
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
E
X
Hi,
thank
you.
Yes,
I'm
the
homeowner
and
I
just
asking
permission
to
replace
existing
brick
steps
with
a
patty.
I'm
sorry.
I
would
would
porch.
A
Is
the
proposed
wood
porch
larger
than
the
existing
masonry
steps
or
the
same
size.
X
No
it,
this
is
just
steps
that
are.
X
A
So
that
is
that
why
the
the
setback
issue
is
is
invoked.
D
Yeah,
I
would
assume
that
it
is
incorrect.
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
it's
kind
of
a
triangulated
lot
as
well,
so
there
it's
on.
You
know
on
a
corner.
So
all
so
it's
encroaching
it's
it's.
A
very
odd
shaped
lot
in
terms
of
sort
of
its
current
state,
but
it's
the
addition
is
of
the
front
deck
is,
is
not
pushing
closer
to
maury
road,
but
actually
toward
the
other
road
which
has
more
space.
A
Okay
is:
is
there
anybody
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
proponent.
AA
Good
evening,
mr
chair
members
of
the
board
jack
duggan
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services
just
like
to
go
on
record
and
support
the
applicant
did
complete
the
full
community
process
and
went
before
the
west
roxbury
neighborhood
council
received
their
full
support.
In
addition,
I'll
receive
two
support
letters
from
director
butters.
Thank
you.
E
C
C
A
And
I
two
of
them
in
favor
the
motion
passes
and
that
brings
this
hearing
to
a
close.
The
hearing
is
adjourned.