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From YouTube: Zoning Board of Appeal Hearings 5-10-22
Description
Zoning regulates the use and dimensional boundaries of privately owned buildings and land. The Zoning code is in place to protect the neighborhoods from the construction of buildings or structures that do not fit into the context of a neighborhood. The Zoning Board of Appeal hears appeals for varying the application of the Zoning Code and determines when it is appropriate to grant deviations from code restrictions.
B
B
B
The
information
for
connecting
to
this
hearing
is
listed
on
today's
hearing
agenda,
which
is
posted
on
the
public
notices
page
of
the
city's
website.
Boston.Gov
members
of
the
public
will
enter
the
virtual
hearing
as
attendees,
which
means
you
will
not
see
yourself
on
the
screen
and
you
will
be
muted
throughout
unless
administratively
unmuted.
B
As
with
our
in
person,
in-person
meetings,
comments
and
support
will
be
followed
by
comments
in
opposition
in
order
of
com.
The
order
of
comments
is
as
follows:
elected
officials,
representatives
of
elected
officials
and
members
of
the
public,
the
chair
may
limit
the
number
of
people
called
upon
to
offer
comment
and
the
time
for
commenting
as
time
constraints
require.
B
B
B
Those
called
upon
to
comment
will
be
asked
to
state
their
name
and
address
first
and
then
can
provide
the
comment
in
the
interest
of
time
and
to
ensure
that
you
have
enough
time
to
do
so.
Please
raise
your
hand
as
soon
as
mr
fortune
reads.
The
address
into
the
record
do
not
raise
your
hand
before
the
relevant
address
is
called
or
the
meeting
host
will
not
know
to
call
on
you
at
the
appropriate
time.
B
B
I
will
now
take
a
roll
call
of
board
members.
Mr
fortune.
D
B
Morning,
miss
spenato
good
morning,
madam
chair
good
morning,
mr
hampton
from
bpda.
B
Okay,
mr
fortune,
let's
let's
get
started.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
morning.
This
is
the
first
order
of
business.
Is
the
approval
of
the
hearing
minutes
of
april
5th
of
2022.
We
need
a
motion.
D
C
I'll
come
back
to
mister
I'll,
come
back
to
the
first
one
they're
going
to
call
the
next
two
cases
calling
doa
919,
609
25-37
frankfurt
street.
There
is
a
companion
case,
voa
919-610-120,
gov
street
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
C
C
However,
that
extension
was
unnecessary
with
tolling.
The
original
granted
relief
remains
valid
until
september
19th
of
2022.
I
recommend
that
the
board
confirm
for
the
record
that
the
relief
remains
valid
until
that
date.
The
applicant
now
also
requests
an
additional
extension
until
september
19th
of
2023.
C
I
recommend
that
the
board
grant
that
additional
extension,
if
it
determines
that
it
is
appropriate
under
the
circumstances
taken
into
account.
This
would
only
be
the
applicant's
first
necessary
extension,
madam
chair,
the
the
same
purpose
at
120
gov
street.
Would
you
like
me
to
read
that
into
the
record,
or
is
that
fine.
D
C
H
C
C
In
the
intervening
time,
the
board
granted
a
second
and
third
extensions
that
were
unnecessary.
However,
the
board's
most
recent
extension
extended
the
release
beyond
the
toll
expiration
date.
I
recommend
that
the
board
confirm
for
the
record
that
this
extension
encompassed
all
applicable
tolling.
The
applicant
now
requests
an
additional
one-year
extension
until
july
14th
of
2023.
D
I'll
make
a
motion
to
extend
until
july
14
2023
and
that
includes
all
applicable
polling,
and
hopefully
this
project
gets
off
the
ground.
B
B
I
B
Let's
go
ahead
and
please
rely
on
the
office.
We
will
rely
on
the
office
to
get
the
message
to
the
applicant.
C
C
C
On
the
first
case
for
g
card
case,
boa
one:
three:
zero:
five,
six,
seven,
nine
one
otis
place:
this
is
a
complete
interior
gut,
remodel,
rebuilding
existing
windows
to
be
restored;
new
elevator
violations,
article
32,
section
4:
this
is
g
card
applicability,
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
B
Okay,
are
these
new
units?
What
are
they.
K
Yes
ma'am,
so
this
will
be
a
it's.
A
redo
of
a
seven
unit,
residential
building
that'll
be
combined
into
a
primary
residence
with
an
additional
garden
level
unit.
B
Okay,
how
are
the
plans,
mr
robinson.
B
Okay,
may
I
hear
from
mr
salmonella.
C
M
B
Thank
you.
How
are
the
plans,
mr
robinson.
M
B
Thank
you,
mr
seminal.
Salmonella.
C
Calling
the
next
case
calling
voa
131,
8116,
146
commonwealth
avenue,
it's
a
complete
partial
gut
renovation
to
a
single-family
townhouse
to
include
new
map,
new
mechanicals
new
finishes
and
change
occupied
dormitory
to
a
single
family,
the
violation
article
32,
section
5.
This
is
g
card
applicability,
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
C
P
Hello,
mr
secretary,
this
is
mike
ross.
The
address
is
535
washington
street.
Q
Hello,
mr
secretary
ma'am,
chair
members
board.
This
is
mike
ross
attorney
at
prince
lobel
one
international
place.
Q
We
made
some
late
changes,
minor
modifications
to
the
to
the
plans
and
unfortunately,
the
rule
is
you
need
to
get
those
in
within
two
weeks
of
the
hearing,
so
that
the
plans
examiner
has
time
to
review
and
that
your
board
architect
has
times
to
review,
even
if
it's
the
most
minor
of
changes,
as
is
the
case
here,
and
because
we
didn't
weren't
able
to
do
that,
we
we
are
requesting
a
deferral
to
allow
the
board
and
staff
time
to
review,
said
documents.
C
C
Hearing
none
I'll
call
the
first
case
calling
boa
128
3596
101
saratoga
street.
This
is
to
combine
two
lots
into
into
a
newly
created
single
lot
to
be
1992
square
feet,
a
change
of
arcs
for
commercial
space
on
grade
and
two
units
above
to
six
residential
units
with
roof
decks
renovate
the
existing
three-story
dwelling
and
add
an
addition
to
the
rear.
All
existing
floors
will
be
lowered
and
reframed
with
new
bays
along
saratoga
street
at
marion
street.
The
violation
article
2017-5.
C
This
is
in
the
east
boston
ipod,
article
32,
section
4g
caught
applicability,
articles,
53,
section
8,
a
multi-family
dwelling
use
has
forbid
article
53,
section,
52,
roof
structure
restriction,
article
53,
section
56:
our
street
pocket
is
insufficient.
Article
53,
section
57.3
traffic
visibility
across
the
corners
article
53
section
9.
The
floridian
ratio
was
excessive
article
53,
section
9.
The
building
has
accessory
stories,
article
53,
section
9,
the
building
has
excessive
in
feet.
Article
53,
section
9
in
the
front
yard,
is
insufficient.
C
S
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
richard
lin's,
245,
sumner
street
east
boston,
on
behalf
of
the
petitioner,
and
I
have
the
page
numbers-
we
can
probably
jump
right
to
for
ease
of
use
for
the
board
if
we
could
jump
to
page
six.
Madam
ambassador,
that
would
be
great
to
start
off.
Madam
chair
remembers
the
board.
This
is
a
pre-existing
non-conforming
use
and
structure
located
at
the
lower
end
of
the
eagle
hill
section
of
east
boston.
S
Our
proposal
would
be
to
eliminate
the
ground
level
commercial
use
into
added
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
building
reprogram,
the
entire
building
to
a
multi-family
use.
This
would
result
in
a
very
substantial
upgrade
to
the
entire
building.
We
are
proposing
to
have
private
roof
decks
for
the
upper
level.
Those
would
be
accessed
by
hatch,
of
course,
not
with
any
proposal
for
for
a
head
house.
This
is
located,
however,
in
a
2f
2000
district,
that
is,
the
zoning
that's
been
in
place
since
1993
in
east
boston.
S
B
S
That's
correct.
The
current
building,
which
contains
the
commercial
use
and
two
residential
units
above,
is
already
on
a
non-conforming
size
lot.
We
would
be
adding
a
rear
parcel
that
would
result
in
approximately
just
under
2
000
square
feet
total.
We
believe
that
the
rear
lot
was
a
part
of
the
existing.
B
Okay,
so
then
it
looks
like
the
neighborhood
context
might
be
three
families
at
maximum.
So
can
you
talk
through
the
number,
the
units,
the
size
of
the
units
and
and
also
talk
through
the
roof
decks.
S
The
the
two
buildings
both
directly
across
the
vaguely
across
are
six
plus
unit
buildings
as
well
respect
to
the
unit
size.
These
are
all
being
proposed
as
two-bedroom
units
the
size
averages
around
860
square
feet.
There
is
one
unit
based
upon
the
existing
layout,
which
is
about
700
square
feet,
and
I
understand
that
you
know.
Certainly
we
can
look
at
modifying
the
size
of
that
unit
based
upon
the
minimum
minimum
size
requirements.
S
The
actual
zoning
violations
that
would
be
applicable
in
this
case
first
would
be
the
the
change
to
a
further
non-conforming
use,
because
this
is
ground
level.
Commercial
with
residential
is
already
not
a
good
one,
we're
proposing
to
substitute
that
with
multi-family,
which
is
more
consistent
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
S
In
addition,
we
already
have
the
existing
condition
of
a
non-conforming
height,
because
the
2f
district
does
permit
only
two
and
a
half
stories
but
35
feet.
This
is
already
a
pre-existing
three-story
building.
It
will
remain
a
three-story
building,
but
in
order
to
address
the
violation
as
a
result
of
the
addition
that
we're
proposing
we
do
require
variance
for
the
height,
because
that
would
be
a
three-story
addition.
S
In
addition,
we
would
be
increasing
the
far
the
current,
far
obviously
being
non-conforming
above
the
80
percent.
That's
permitted
in
the
east
boston
district
for
this
neighborhood.
We
would
be
increasing
that
up
to
about
2.9
which,
because
we
have
almost
entire
lot
coverage
at
three
levels,
we
would
be
increasing
the
far
significantly.
S
But
I
would
point
out
that
this
is
a
corner
lock,
condition
very
similar
to
what
we've
dealt
with
other
corner
watts,
where
it's
difficult
to
create
sort
of
the
setbacks
that
are
usual
mid-block
or
on
watts.
That
are,
you
know
much
wider
for
purposes
of
of
compliance
than
regulations
and.
S
That
is
correct.
We
actually
proposed
this.
Originally,
this
was
being
proposed.
A
four-story
building
based
on
consultation
with
the
neighborhood
we've
kept
it
a
three-story
in
exchange
for
some
concessions
that
we
were
proposing.
B
Okay,
mr
salmonella,.
E
Plans
are
good,
you
know,
I
think
the
the
height
is
is
consistent.
I
guess
I'm
a
little
unsure
why
they're
sort
of
the
addition,
I
think,
could
be
seen
as
an
addition
to
you
know
a
nice
historical
corner
building
and
it
sort
of
seems
like
it's
going
the
other
way.
E
So
I
don't
in
terms
of
the
proposed
scope,
have
any
real
questions,
but
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
question
of
the
architecture
and
the
approach,
but
generally
I
think
the
units
are
fine
and
the
roof,
hatch
or
the
roof
decks
are
accessed
by
hatch
from
the
units
below.
So
no
other
questions
for
me.
J
Yeah,
I
I
have
a
question
for
the
applicant.
The
edition
is
now
on
looks
like
from
google
maps
an
empty
lot,
so
it
means
that
if
this
were
approved,
the
entire
combined
lot
would
be
covered
by
the
building
to
be
zero
usable
open
space.
What
is
the
open
area
used
for
now?.
S
Mr
through
the
chairs,
sheriff's
early,
the
open
area
is
a
separately
assessed,
parcel.
It
is
used
for
parking,
but
not
parking
required
for
the
building.
I
would
determine
as
convenience
parking.
We
are
seeking
a
parking
variance
for
this
proposal.
However,
we
have
arranged
not
as
part
of
any
formal
ancillary
use.
We
have
arranged
for
four
off-stream
parking
spaces
within
close
walking
distance
of
the
site,
and
that
was
in
response
to
some
of
the
comments
that
we
heard
from
the
neighborhood.
J
S
That
that
would
be
correct
and
our
original
iteration
of
this
project,
where
we
did
have
four
stories,
we
were
proposing
to
have
some
ground
level
parking
that
was
met
with
some
concern
and
resistance
from
from
summer
butters.
S
The
removal
of
the
curb
cut
on
marion
street
certainly
will
return
on-street
parking
to
the
public,
and
that
was
seemed
to
be
a
good
compromise,
especially
since
we're
able
to
find
some
remote
parking
to
associate
with
the
building.
B
To
pick
up
on,
mr
mr
robinson's
point,
I
think
so
what
is
the
distance
from
the
building
the
current
building
to
the
butter
and
the
current
and
the
proposed
building
from
anything
abutting
it,
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
in
fact
eliminating
eliminating
light
and
air
and
all
those
necessary
things
to
the
abutters
and
possible
new
construction
on
any
a
budding
lot.
S
Sure
so
presently,
I
believe
the
setback
venom
chairs
about
18
feet
in
width,
the
zoning
district
permits
a
two
and
a
half
foot
setback.
If
this
were
considered
a
side
yard,
because
we
are
dealing
with
the
core
lock
condition,
we
essentially
have
side
yards
on
both
marion
and
saratoga
street.
On
the
saratoga
street
elevation
we
are
attached
to
the
building
next
to
us.
That
would
not
be
the
condition
on
the
rear,
because
we
are
further
back
than
our
building
immediately
to
our
left
on
saratoga,
we
are
proposing
a
setback.
S
I
believe
it's
at
two
and
a
half
feet
on
the
the
marion
street
elevation,
which
would
be
consistent
with
a
typical
sideyard
setback
for
buildings
in
the
2f
2000
district.
B
Okay-
and
I
understand
you-
know
the
community
conversation
about
parking,
but
has
the
applicant
the
developer
looked
at
decreasing
the
number
of
units
and,
in
fact,
decompressing
the
parking
situation
by
providing
the
parking
space
on
the
under
parking
spaces
on
the
undeveloped
lot
in
support
of
this
building.
So.
S
B
S
We
we
did
look
at
with
the
current
version.
We
did
look
at
an
option
that
actually
had
two
parking
spaces
on
the
proposed
edition.
It
would
be
probably
not
feasible
to
add
the
parking
under
the
existing
structure
if
we're
preserving
the
existing
structure
engineering-wise,
it
would
probably
be
very
difficult
to
do
that.
So
we
did
look
at
the
option
of
two
we
did
and
there
was
sort
of
a
mixed
commentary
on
this,
but
because
we
are
within
relatively
short,
walking
distance
of
airport
station,
we
did
hear
support
from
abutters.
S
That
said
that
they
preferred
that
this
would
be
a
project
that
that
recognized
carlos
households,
as
well
because
of
its
proximity
to
airport
t
station,
as
well
as
the
opportunity
to
remove
that
curb,
cut
and
add
some
on-street
parking
for
for
the
public.
B
T
Yes,
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
is
any
parking
provided.
I
haven't
seen
a
parking
plan
at
all.
If
anything,
if
any
parking
spaces
will
be
provided,
if
there
are,
I
would
like
to
partake
the
design.
B
U
Met
with
the
maverick
center
neighborhood
association
in
december
of
2021,
the
association
voted
in
support
of
the
project
they
liked
the
unit
sizes
and
their
letters
had
some
concerns
regarding
number
of
units
and
rear
edition,
but
they're
happy
to
see
changes
that
will
improve
the
conditions
of
the
existing
property.
At
this
moment,
our
office
would
like
to
refer
judgment
to
the
board.
Thank
you.
C
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members,
board
jeff
hampton
bpda.
We
recommended
denial
on
this
just
because
of
the
massing
in
our
recommendation.
We
also
cited
you
know
the
lack
of
usable,
open
space
and
also
the
setback
for
the
addition
on
marion
street
understanding
that
this
a
non-conforming
structure
already
our
concerns
are
mainly
with
marion
street.
Thank
you.
S
I'm
sheriff,
I
can
just
add,
I
understand
the
bpda's
position.
You
know
when
dealing
with
corner
lots
that
this
is
always
a
challenge
to
have
either
a
gap
between
the
building
for
open
space.
That
looks
more
like
an
empty
lot
versus
actually
developing
the
site,
and
typically
it's
not
uncommon,
to
see
the
corner.
Lots
developed
in
this
manner.
B
Yeah,
my
my
my
thought
is
that
the
developer
could
have
been
a
little
bit
more
thoughtful
and
figured
out
a
way
to
you
know,
get
not
not
bank
of
the
largest
roi,
but
figure
out
a
way
to
make
this
long
term
usable,
because
you
know
sometimes
you
know
people
walk
in
places
that
are
not.
B
You
know,
blue
line
accessible
or
something
else
so
or
they
work
odd
hours
or
whatever
it
is,
and
so
it's
it's
it's
that
is
this
supposed
to
be
rental
or
or
purchase.
This.
B
Can
I
who's
who's
running
the
screen
today?
Can
you
guys
just
go
back
to
the
plans.
B
All
those
in
favor
hi,
hi
hi,
I'm
opposed
because
I
do
think
that
the
applicant
could
have
been
more
creative
on
this
one.
But
motion
carries
for
approval
with
design
review.
Thank.
C
V
This
is
john
greenup
counsel
for
the
applicant,
and
my
address
is
box
380694
cambridge
massachusetts
and
I'm
joined
today
by
matt
cerisi,
who
is
the
contractor
in
charge
of
the
the
project
and.
B
So
our
question
is,
is
that
is
that
bracket
supported.
W
E
Plans
are
good,
it
confirmed
it
is
a
bracket
mounted
and
the
dimensions,
as
are
as
indicated.
No
questions.
B
X
Hi
yes,
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
kim
krusilli
from
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
our
office
would
like
to
defer
to
the
board
on
this
matter
and
a
better
meeting
was
held
on
march
16th
of
2022,
where
support
was
shown
by
the
veterans.
Thank
you.
W
J
Emotions
bpd
agency
interview:
has
it
been
the
landmarks.
C
C
sign
regulations,
freestanding
signs
usage
forbidden
article
9,
section,
1
extension
of
a
non-conforming
use
is
conditional
articles.
11
section
signs
are
subject
to
other
regulations.
Article
33,
section,
16.,
fear
right,
pylon
sign
is
forbidden,
article
65,
section,
9,
side
yard,
residential
dimension
is
institution.
Y
Y
Y
14
by
48,
okay
go
ahead,
so
this
is.
This
will
be
constructed
to
the
rear
of
the
property
of
82
through
84
boston
street,
on
interstate
93,
which
is
owned
by
the
polish
american
citizens
club
a
non-profit
organization.
A
a
conditional
permit
will
be
required
if
this
is.
If
this
is
approved,
we
understand-
and
we
respect
the
board
and
the
city's
position
on
billboards.
But
this
is.
B
Is
there
anything
that
will
show
it
where
it's
going
to
be
on
the
lot
and
any
rendering
or
anything
about
that
billboard.
Y
So
the
the
land
survey,
which
was
submitted
as
far
as
the
plans
that
you
do
have
was
was,
would
show
the
actual
location
of
the
billboard
on
the
rear
of
the
property,
overlooking
interstate
93.
B
Okay,
tell
us
what
sheet
the
we
should
be
looking
at.
E
B
B
And
so
this
would
be
a
digital
billboard.
Then.
Y
One
of
those
three
locations
have
been
currently
identified,
which
will
remove
four
faces
from
the
neighborhood,
that
is
in
the
area
of
freeport
street
and
dorchester
ralph.
The
other
two
locations
will
soon
be
identified,
collaboratively
working
together
with
our
district
city,
councilor
baker's
office
and
as
well
as
the
local
civic
association.
B
Y
So
those
are,
those
are
all
legal
billboards,
as
far
as
is,
is
to
my
knowledge,
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
there.
So
there
are
active,
there
are
active
conversations
with
the
landlords
which
have
been
identified
as
far
as
three
locations.
Y
One
again
has
been
confirmed
in
the
previous
locations,
as
I
stated
on
dorchester
raven
fremont
street,
which
consists
of
four
faces
of
billboard,
so
there's
actually
two
billboards
on
the
property
that
are
double
faced,
that
will
be
removed
and
again
those
are
within
our
residential
neighborhoods
and
then
the
two
other
locations
will
be
determined,
obviously
prior
to
having
a
permit
issue.
If
this
shall
be
approved
and
again,
we
would
request
that
a
proviso
be
added,
stating
that
no
permit
shall
issue
until
these
three
locations
have
been
determined
and
have
been
have
been
removed.
B
Okay,
so
it
looks
like
no
new
billboards
shall
be
allowed
within
600
feet
of
a
federally
funded
highway
subject
to
the
federal
highway.
Beautification
act
unt
unless
approved
by
the
ward
of
appeal:
okay,
okay
got
it.
How
are
the
plans,
mr
robinson.
E
Oh,
the
the
there's.
No,
I
guess
I
I
would
expect
to
see
some
visual
aid
of
this
in
terms
of
its
context
from
interstate
93
from
the
adjacent
bridge
across
93,
some
other
visuals
there.
This
is
the
only
real
drawing
that
shows
anything
associated
with
it.
So
it's
a
little
hard
for
me
to
assess.
I
mean
that
the
information
is
here
in
terms
of
the
basic
construction
of
the
billboard,
but
nothing
related
to
its
visual
impact
on
painting.
So,
madam.
B
So
hold
on
miss
counselor,
so
this
is
freestanding.
This
is
in
a
residential
sub
district.
It's
a
3fd,
2000
district.
Will
there
be
parking
below
that
mil
what?
How
is,
how
is
it
going
to
work.
Y
So
so
the
there
is
no
parking
below
there,
so,
as
you
can
see,
well
try
to
try
to
depict
the
actual
picture
so,
as
as
you
can
see
here
there
is.
This
is
the
rear
of
the
property
interstate
93.
Y
It
will
be
overseeing,
as
you
may
see,
that
there's
russian
street
there's
three
butters
that
will
have
any
sort
of
visual.
These
are
the
only
bars
that
will
have
some
sort
of
visual,
which
would
be
minimal.
Visual
of
the
actual
sign
they'll
have
a
side
view
so,
which
is
which
is
great
for
us.
Is
that
there's
this
new
light
blocking
technology
that
I'm
sure
peter
mccleary
can
get
a
little
bit
more.
B
I
know
we
we
know
about
that,
and
we
know
how
neighborhoods
feel
that
in
certain
neighborhoods
they're,
just
they
they
don't
they're,
not
responsive.
So,
if
I
look
at
this,
it
looks
like
you're.
Adding
a
two-story
edition
is
that
right
to
this
building.
Y
Y
B
Okay,
any
questions
from
the
board.
J
Yeah,
I'm
a
little
confused
about
a
couple
things.
We
we
don't
have
a
rendering
is
that
correct?
We
don't
to
be
able
to
see
how
it
is
viewed
from
from
various
angles
from
the
neighborhood.
That's
question
number
one
and
then
question
number
two.
I
was
very
confused
about
this
concept
of
three
other
build
existing
billboards
coming
down
in
exchange
for
this.
That's
the
proposal.
Where
are
those
billboards?
What
are
they
and
and
are
they
all
owned
by
the
same
just
seems
like
a.
I
don't
think.
Y
Great,
so
so,
yes,
all
right,
so
I
can
get
a
little
bit
more
into
the
actual
build
boards
itself.
So
so
the
the
operator
has
committed
to
removing
three
existing
static
locations.
As
you
know,
the
this
location
here
is
overlooking
93
and
again,
the
city's
vision
is
is
to
declutter
some
of
these
static
signs
that
are
actually
in
the
middle
of
our
residential
neighborhoods.
We've
worked
together
with
the
district
councilor
in
the
the
local
civic
group,
mccormick
civic
association.
We
determined
one
location
and
it's
in
the
vicinity
of
dorchester
ave
in
fremont
street.
Y
That
location
here
has
two
billboards,
double-faced,
so
there's
four
faces
that
actually
will
be
removed
from
this
location
and
again
as
far
as
the
other
two,
those
are
still
collaboratively
being
worked
together,
along
with
the
district
council
in
the
local
civic
group,
to
determine
those
two
locations
to
try
to
find
more
of
the
the
static
locations
that
are
factored
into
our
neighborhood.
That
we
can.
I
know
that
the
operator
is
in
active
discussions
with
some
of
these
landowners.
B
Y
Well,
the
active
conversations
that
these
guys
have
committed
prior,
you
know
to
hand
in
in
other
locations
outside
of
the
city
of
boston,
have
have
come
to
fruition
and
that's
the
intention
is
to
have
their
proviso.
If,
if,
in
fact,
these
throat
locations
do
not
come
down,
no
permit
shall
issue
so.
J
E
S
S
Z
Z
We
do
have
visual
renderings
and
I'm
not
entirely
sure
why
they
haven't
been
delivered
to
the
board,
because
we've
had
to
present
them
to
our
butters
and
the
civic
association,
including
mr
hong.
So
if
they
can't
be
provided
right
now,
maybe
they
should
be
provided.
B
Me
let
me
just
go
now
for
to
see
if
there's
anybody
here
to
speak,
either
in
support
or
in
opposition.
AA
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
george
quinn
with
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
our
office,
hosted
in
the
brothers
meeting
for
proposal
on
september
23rd
2021..
There
were
mixed
opinions
on
the
digital
billboard.
Those
in
opposition
cited
potential
negative
effects
of
light
pollution
on
neighbors
and
distractions
on
drivers.
AA
C
AC
AB
Board
paul
sullivan
on
behalf
of
city
council
at
large,
michael
flaherty.
The
council
would
like
to
note
that
this
project
has
gone
through
an
extensive
community
process
and,
as
a
result
has
received
support
from
director
butters,
as
well
as
the
area
civic
association.
The
project
will
remove
three
billboards
from
the
surrounding
area
that
are
considered
a
blight,
and
importantly,
this
billboard
will
enable
a
long-time
area
non-profit
to
polish
american
citizens
to
remain
in
operation.
Therefore,
council
florida
like
to
go
on
record
of
support.
Thank
you.
I
I
AD
AD
That
will
be
impacted
by
the
billboard
and
I
support
the
project.
I
support
the
projects
because
I
grew
up
in
the
area.
I'm
polish
and
the
american
citizen
club
is
an
important
organization
for
the
community.
It
has
been
around
for
seven
years
and
the
billboard
is
the
only
thing
that
will
keep
it
survive
financially.
So
that's.
What's
supporting
us?
AD
B
AE
Sure
my
name
is
peter
diesek.
My
address
is
141
dorchester
avenue
unit
220
in
south
boston.
I
am
actually
the
current
treasurer
of
the
polish
american
citizens
club.
I
just
wanted
to
briefly.
First
of
all,
thanks
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak-
and
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
quick
second
to
talk
about
it.
B
Now
hold
on
your
your,
your
attorney
gave
us
the
information
that
we
need.
We
know
the
polish
american
club
I'd
like
to
hear
from
the
butters
on
this
proposal.
Thank
you,
peter.
AF
I
And
alexander.
AG
Name
is
alexander
kawalczyk.
I
live
at
54,
st
margaret
street,
I'm
here
in
support
of
the
project.
The
polish
club
is
a
pillar
of
the
community.
It
preserves
the
polish
identity
in
the
polish
triangle.
I
am
as
a
resident.
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
support
for
this
project.
I
AF
I
want
to
say
good
morning,
members
of
the
board,
my
wife
and
I
have
child
care
responsibilities,
so
I
need
to
make
my
testimony
brief.
My
name
is
william
trabuco.
My
wife
alexander,
is
the
homeowner.
AF
AF
AC
I
AH
Thank
you
very
much,
members
of
the
board,
first
of
all,
good
morning
and
happy
mother's
day
to
all
the
most
president,
this
meeting,
we,
the
carpenters
union,
we
on
the
headquarters,
our
building
at
750,
dorchester
avenue,
no,
no
in
the
other
locations
we're
a
little.
I
am
not
sure
if
there's
going
to
be
any
positive
or
negative
effect
to
our
building,
just
want
to
bring
that
up
to
your
attention.
Thank
you.
B
AI
Yes,
hi
good
morning,
my
name
is
erica.
My
true
stocks,
my
address,
was
13
dorset
street
in
dorchester.
Mass
I've
been
a
resident
of
the
polish
triangle
for
almost
15
years.
I
also
grew
up
in
this
neighborhood
and
in
addition
to
just
being
a
member
to
living
in
the
community,
for
as
long
as
I
have
I
have
been
a
member
of
the
polish
club.
I
am
currently
on
the
board,
and
I
want
to
just
kind
of
point
out
that
this
billboard
would
sustain
the
future
of
this
club.
We
have
been
around
no
thank
you.
B
We
are
very
familiar
with
the
club
they've
been
before
us
before,
so
thank
you
so
miss
ambassador
any
more
right
stan.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
jeff
hampton
bpda.
As
with
all
electronic
science
and
billboards,
we
recommended
denial.
We
feel
that
it's
an
inappropriate
location,
also
without
any
sort
of
rendering
being
submitted
as
part
of
our
review.
We
can't
we
couldn't
make
a
recommendation
anyway,.
F
To
support
it,
but
our
policy
is
to
always
oppose
electronic
billboards,
so
we're
on
record
for
denial.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
okay
got
it.
Given
that
information,
may
I
have
a
motion
please
I'll.
D
Make
a
move
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
with
the
following
provisos
that
the
permit
doesn't
issue
until
the
applicant
figures
out
the
three
billboards
that
will
be
removed.
I
know
they
figured
out
one,
but
the
additional
two
in
bpda
design
review.
B
B
I'm
in
opposition,
so
the
motion
does
not
carry
so
is
that
right
can.
V
B
Yes,
but
there's
three
opposition,
so
it's
been
denied,
there
was
a
so
it's
it's
been
denied.
Thank
you.
C
AL
AL
AL
AL
This
is
on
lambert
avenue
and
it's
lambert
avenue
on
the
left
side.
If
you're
coming
down
the
road
is
a
no
parking
side,
so
this
would
not
be
removing
any
parking
off
the
street
and
it
would
be
essentially
creating
space
for
one
to
two
vehicles.
The
building
was
his
had
been
empty
for
quite
a
bit
of
time,
and
now
there
are
over
10
occupants
living
in
it
and
a
lot
have
cars.
So,
in
speaking
to
my
butters,
a
lot
of
them
were
in
support
just
to
avoid
congestion
on
this
corner.
B
So
tell
us
so
if
I'm
looking
at
the
drawing
that's
up
on
the
screen,
your
property
line,
so
your
property
line
is
not,
does
not
go
to
the
chain
link
fence,
that
is
city
of
boston
property
back
there.
U
AJ
AM
AL
AM
N
B
E
Plans
are
good.
I
think
that
you
know.
AN
E
A
front
yard
per
se-
I
guess
it's
a
side
yard,
but
it
is
quite
close
to
the
property
line
due
to
the
sort
of
I'd
like
to
hear
mr
d'amico's
proposal
on
this,
and
it
is
noted,
as
a
14-foot
curb
cut,
I
think
we
typically
propose
a
10-foot
curb
cut
for
a
residential,
but
no
other
questions
other
than
that.
T
B
Thank
you
is
any
any
other
questions
from
the
board.
Is
anybody
here
to
speak
either
in
support
or
in
opposition
of
this
proposal?.
AO
His
before
case
was
the
actual
roof
deck
that
they
had
agreed
on,
but
they
did
oppose
the
two
parking
spaces,
citing
that
they
felt
that
it
was
not
enough
adequate
space
for
the
parking,
but
then
also,
additionally,
there
were
parking
concerns
with
the
with
the
location
that
he
had
chosen
as
there
were
city
bollards
installed
there
and
with
the
plans
that
he
has
shown
to
the
coalition,
the
bollards
would
have
to
be
removed
and
there
were
numerous
traffic
issues
with
the
folks
coming
out
from
lambert
outside
and
actually
having
a
few
carved
mishaps.
AO
C
I
Mr
master,
I
do
have
one
raised
hand:
zion
sent
a
request
on
you.
E
D
J
I
would
also
I'd
like
to
amend
it
to
reduce
the
curb
cut
size
from
14
to
10.
F
E
A
gate
would
be
helpful,
I
think,
but
I
guess
not
required
whatever.
C
Madam
chair,
it's
now
10
34.,
I'm
going
to
call
the
10
30
cases
bernie
deferrals
or
with
charles
for
10
30.
Only
you
can
give
me
the
address.
First,
please
59
hold
on
two
seconds
one
at
a
time.
What
was
the
first
say
it
again,
59
falcon.
Thank
you
for
the
record,
calling
one
voa
six
three,
fifty
nine
falcon
street
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please
good.
S
Sorry
yeah!
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
madam
chair,
so
we
did
hear
from
the
bpda
on
some
of
its
recommendations
on
this
we'd
like
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
to
see
if
there's
some
way
to
rework
some
of
the
details
on
this
project,
and
we
believe
that
we
can
work
a
little
bit
more
closely
with
the
neighborhood.
So
we're
requesting
a
referral.
B
Can
I
ask
everybody
to
please
mute
yourselves
so
that
we
can
hear
what's
going
on?
May
I
have
a
motion.
Please
question:
is
there
a
second?
Second
all,
those
in
favor
bye,
any
opposed
motion
carries
the
the
date.
Please
you.
S
Madam
chair,
mr
secretary,
is
it
possible
to
get
after
july
30th
or
before
july
1st?
We
can
do.
C
AN
Tom
miller,
during
quilting
miller
in
boston
representing
the
owner,
we're
going
we're
requesting
a
deferral
at
the
request
of
city
council
president
flynn's
office
to
continue
to
work
on
some
issues
addressed
by
the
inviters
regarding
parking
and
other
matters.
C
C
AP
AP
Sure
we
are
planning
on
finishing
existing
space
in
our
basement,
so
we'll
be
adding
about
600
square
feet
to
the
basement
of
livable
space
and
then
we'll
be
adding
a
storage
room
in
the
back.
So
the
what
you
see
on
the
screen
right
now
is
the
sort
of
existing
space.
It's
really
just
the
basement
unfinished
and.
B
B
Okay
and
then
tell
us
again
what
is
proposed
for
the
basement,
what
what
kind
of
use
in
the
basement.
AP
AP
Oh
so
there's
a
staircase
at
the
front.
If
you
scroll
down
a
little
bit
you'll
see
right
there
there's
a
staircase
going
up
to
the
first
floor,
so
we
already
have
the
existing
staircase
and
a
door
that
goes
from
our
entryway
of
our
home.
E
AA
Yes,
good
morning,
man
and
chair
members
of
the
board-
george
wind,
with
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
the
applicant
flied,
their
neighbors
and
earned
several
letters
of
support
and
the
pope's
hill
neighborhood
association
voiced
no
opposition.
At
this
time,
our
office
would
like
to
defer.
B
Okay,
given
that
information,
may
I
have
a
motion.
C
Following
the
next
case,
calling
voa
129,
9393
29
st
john
street,
this
is
to
confirm
oxy,
the
one
family
add
a
two-story
pump
up
to
an
existing
conforming
single-family
residence
remodel.
The
interior
spaces
proposed
addition
will
exceed
the
output,
deploy
the
ratio
by
223
square
feet,
violation,
article
55,
section,
9,
excessive
far
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
AR
Looking
to
put
a
small
addition
on
this
single
family
house
to
make
more
livable
space
with
a
laundry
and
kitchen
and
storage
on
the
first
floor,
sorry,
laundry
bathroom
in
storage
on
the
first
floor
and
bathroom
and
walk-in
closet
on
the
second
floor.
B
Okay
and
that's
a
223-
and
this
is
this-
is
owner
occupier.
AR
B
AS
Hi
yes,
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
tiffany
cavallo
here
from
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
this
applicant,
under
what
an
extensive
community
process
but
had
overwhelming
support
from
director
butters
as
well
as
jamaica,
plain
neighborhood
council
zoning
subcommittee.
I
have
three
letters
of
support
at
this
time.
Additionally,
the
mayor's
office
would
like
to
go
on
record
and
defer
to
the
board
judgment.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
following
the
last
case
at
9
30
calling
poa
five
to
seven
street.
This
is
new
construction
of
nine
for
sale,
condominium
units
and
nine
off
street
off
street
parking
spaces.
The
value
latest
article
51
section,
eight
and
nine
family
use
been
forbidden.
Article
51,
section
50.2,
the
performance
of
the
existing
building
alignment,
article
51
section,
56,
plus
street
parking
and
loading
requirements.
Space
is
required.
Pose
is
nine
article
51
section
56,
austria
parking
loading
article
51
section
9,
the
4-day
ratio
is
excessive.
Article
51,
section
9.
The
building
has
excessive
stories.
C
AQ
Good
morning,
man
and
chair
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
paul:
ruffo,
an
attorney
in
boston
at
smith,
doug
and
julian
ruffo,
representing
the
ownership
unicorn
inc,
mr
akiolia,
and
with
me,
is
the
architect
on
the
project
10
tanya
carrier.
Just
briefly,
this
is
a
nine
for
sale,
condominiums
on
a
sort
of
a.
AQ
Peninsula
or
that
exists
at
the
corner
of
royal
street
in
hooker
street.
It's
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
city
streets
empire
street
is
a
paper
street,
meaning
it's
not
paved,
but
it
is
there
so
that
these
combined
lots
will
give
us
over
8
000
square
feet
and
we've
been
to
the
neighborhood.
B
AQ
Right
so
it's
a
two
fan:
it's
a
two
family
5
000
zone,
so
we're
looking
for
nine
units.
So
that's
that
we
need
to
really
for
the
for
the
for
the
use.
The
lot
with
complies
the
frontage
complies.
We've,
we've
pulled
the
property
back.
AQ
AQ
AQ
We
have
six
compact
spaces
and
three
full-size
spaces,
so
that
is,
I
believe,
a
summary
of
of
the
relief
that
we're
requiring
and,
as
I
was
saying
and
tanya.
B
Can
and
so
ask
you
a
couple
more
questions:
any
roof
decks
being
proposed.
AQ
B
Are
they?
Are
they
just
unit
decks.
AT
AQ
Yes,
there
are
eight
two
bedroom
units,
including
three
of
the
two
bedroom
units,
with
a
study
and
there's
one
three
bedroom
unit.
Their
unit
sizes
range
for
from
890
square
feet
at
the
smallest
to
the
largest
being
1730
square
feet.
The
average
size
is
about
is
over
a
thousand
square
feet.
It's
about
twelve
thirteen
hundred
square.
AQ
Three
bedroom
is
one
thousand
six
hundred
and
thirty
eight
square
feet,
they're,
designed
to
obviously
to
be
attract
family
ownership.
AU
B
Okay,
so
you
know
we
have
this
usual
dilemma:
there
are
two
things
that
that
are
an
issue.
First,
this
is
a
two-family
sub-district
zoning
sub-district
and
you
know.
Yes,
you
do
have
additional
square
footage
on
the
lot,
but
not
that
much
more,
and
the
second
issue
is
that
we've
seen
a
lot
of
projects
come
in
at
nine
nine
units
so
that
there
is
no
meeting
of
oh
no,
no
affordable
unit
being
proposed.
So
tell
us
what
your
thoughts
are
on
both
of
those.
AQ
The
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
the
affordable
unit,
what
they
were
tr,
what
the
ownership
was
trying
to
design
in
was
something
that
would
be
affordable
with
a
small.
A
to
you
know
by
designing
these
smaller
two-bedroom
units
that
would
allow
for
for
home
ownership,
but
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
meeting
the
the
mayor,
menino's
directive,
etc.
AQ
Just
really
the
economics
of
the
deal
is
what
the
decision
was
and
in
terms
of
the
the
lot
itself,
because
it
is
surrounded
on
three
sides.
It's
sort
of
a
transitional
area
between
these
row
houses
along
royal
street
and
to
transition
into
the
two
family
neighborhood.
AQ
So
we
felt
there
was
enough
of
a
buffer,
especially
with
providing
off-street
parking
between
the
condos,
which
are
just
immediately
south
of
of
the
building
and
the
two-family
neighborhood,
which
is
just
to
the
east.
So
that
was
that
was
the
thought
process
behind
that.
B
Okay,
how
are
the
plans,
mr
robinson.
E
Plant
plans
are
good,
I
think
they
they
represent.
Well,
I
think
the
I
feel,
like
the
scale
on
royal
is,
is
certainly
a
little
bit
more
consistent
with
the
sort
of
scale
that
I
think
the
transitioning
down
to
the
two
family
isn't
quite
getting
there
yet
in
my
opinion,
but
I
think
in
general,
no
real
questions
about
the
proposal
seems
as
proponent
is.
AV
J
Yeah,
I
I
have
a
question
in
the
drawing
and
they're
rendering
it
looks
like
there's
nothing
on
the
roof,
but
in
a
300
elevation
you
can
scroll
down
to
that
looks
like
there's
a
rather
large
head
house
or
something
that
is
not.
It
keeps
scrolling
down,
keep
going,
keep
going
go
to
the
elevation,
but.
J
What
what
is
that
big
blocky
thing
on
top
of
the
roof?
Because
it's
not
on
the
rendering.
AT
It
could
potentially
be
reduced
by
sloping
down
with
the
you
know,
soul
of
the
stair.
That
was
a
concern.
J
J
T
Yes,
bob
d'amico,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
board
about
the
mikko
bt
day,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
curb
cut
doesn't
move.
Otherwise
it
will
take
a
permit
from
public
works
and,
let's
see
that's
about
it,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
curb
cut
is
you
know
in
in
place
and
it's
not
complies.
AJ
D
D
You
know
the
massing
of
the
building
compared
to
what
we
usually
see.
You've
got
large
oversized
units
that
could
be
made
smaller
and
add
more
units
and
get
some
affordability
in
here.
So
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
with
that.
B
Also,
you
know
I
we
just
anyway
actual
our
reserve
comment.
Is
anybody
here
to
speak
in
support
or
an
opposition
of
this
proposal.
AW
Nm
chair
members
of
the
board,
conor
newman
with
the
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services.
At
this
time,
the
mayor's
office
like
to
defer
judgments
to
the
board
some
background
information
on
the
community
process.
It
was
pretty
lengthy.
The
mayor's
office
conducted
several
of
butter's
meetings
and
the
outcome
also
held
their
own
meetings
as
well
with
neighbors
they
presented
to
the
austin
civic
association
and
the
brighton
austin
improvement
association.
Throughout
the
process,
we've
heard
a
mix
of
opinions.
Some
residents
like
that,
it's
going
to
bring
owner-occupied
units
to
a
neighborhood
that
has
a
very
low
ratio.
AW
Other
residents
have
expressed
concerns
about
the
proposed
density
as
we're
moving
into
north
austin
on
hooker
and
royal
street,
where
there's
smaller
households,
as
well
as
concerns
about
parking
competition
in
that
area
as
well.
The
brighton,
austin
improvement
association
voted
to
support
with
bpa
design,
review
and
restrictions
that
there'd
be
deep
restrictions.
AW
So
aca
was
split,
so
I
believe
the
dba
should
have
a
letter
on
file
their
membership
couldn't
reach
a
clear
consensus.
I
guess
it
was
split
evenly
where,
like
I
said,
some
residents
liked
that
it
was
owner-occupied
to
be
bringing
owner
be
bringing
home
ownership
opportunities.
Neighborhood
others
felt
it
was
far
too
dense
in
this
particular
part
of
north.
Also.
AX
Good
morning
this
is
maura
mccray
from
councillor
breden's
office,
the
counselor
I'd
like
to
refer
to
the
aca
on
this
project.
If
the
project
is
approved,
the
counselor
would
also
like
to
ask
for
bpa
design
review.
Thank
you.
C
AA
I
AY
Yeah,
my
name
is
richard
rogers
37-53
royal
street.
I'm
a
director
butter.
I've
lived
in
lower
olsen
for
25
years.
I'd
just
like
to
just
about
two
minutes.
I
want
to
just
urge
the
zba
to
decline
all
10
variances
that
are
required.
If
allowed
it's
going
to
set
a
precedent
in
the
neighborhood
for
being
the
tallest
residential
building
in
the
two
family
5000
zone
it'll
create
a
frenzy
of
development
applications
and
speculation
in
the
neighborhood,
based
on
the
new
height
precedent.
AY
Also,
I
believe
that
there's
a
lot
of
neighbors
and
residents
that
are
not
appearing
at
this
hearing
or
may
not
have
written
to
the
zba
because
of
the
extensive
community
process.
The
developers
actually
needs
eight
very
attractive,
specific
promises
at
the
meeting
to
make
the
development
more
viable.
But
on
friday,
in
an
email
to
a
limited
group
of
people,
they
walked
back
six
of
those
those
promises.
AY
Basically,
you
know
revoking
them
in
their
email.
They
shaved
240
000
from
their
first
promise
to
offset
the
development
with
the
deeded
open
space
saying
that
it's
not
economical.
This
is
a
quote
for
a
project
of
that
size
for
the
developer,
to
spend
that
money
to
address
the
issue,
and
it
should
be
the
responsibility
of
the
city
to
remedy
so
they're
talking
here
about
the
re-greening
and
the
drainage,
the
parking
and
the
traffic
calming.
AY
That
means
that,
after
they
increase
the
density
and
the
traffic
and
deliveries,
they
leave
town
with
the
prophets
and
they
leave
behind
that
burden
to
the
taxpayers
and
the
neighbors
in
the
city
to
deal
with
those
issues
that
they
created.
So
in
a
nutshell,
after
promising
these
attractive
offsets
to
the
neighbors
they
revoked
them
and
a
lot
of
those
neighbors
believed
that
they
were
coming.
AY
AZ
Yes,
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
tony
desadoro,
representing
the
austin
civic
association,
madam
chair,
it
should
come
as
no
surprise
that
when
we
have
new
construction
and
established
residential
neighborhood
it
it
very
rarely
is
a
unanimous
decision,
as
was
mentioned
previously
by
the
office
of
neighborhood
services.
AZ
They
felt
that
the
parking
one-to-one
ratio
was
adequate
family
size
units,
and
this
was
a
proponent
that
actually
showed
us
their
pro
forma
early
in
the
process
that
justified
what
was,
at
the
time,
considered
very
reasonable
sale
prices
for
the
units
and
then
on
the
other
side.
Madam
chair,
those
members
that
oppose
the
project,
they
cite
the
takedown
of
a
two-family
home
height
and
density.
Increased
vehicular
traffic
was
a
concern
and
they
felt
that
the
design
was
not
conducive
to
assimilating
into
the
existing
neighborhood.
AZ
I
B
Strap
hanging,
are
you
one?
I'm
too
was
she
on
two
devices.
B
Okay,
given
that
information,
may
I
have
a
motion.
B
Go
ahead
because
and
we'll
take
a
break
at
11,
30,
okay,.
AC
C
BA
BA
Yeah
so
me
and
my
dad,
we
own
this
single
family
house
in
east
boston,
on
saratoga
street
we've
lived
there
for
the
past
20
years
and
before
that
we
lived
on
harbor
street,
but
obviously
we're
getting
older
and
we'd
like
to
stay
in
the
house.
But
right
now
it's
only
a
single
family
house.
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
build
it
to
a
two
family
so
that
my
parents
would
stay
in
one
unit
and
then
I
my
brother,
could
stay.
B
Okay,
is
there
any
proposed
living
space
in
the
basement?
There
is
okay
so
and
tell
us
about
that.
Basement
space.
B
So
I
would
recommend
a
deferral,
because
this
might
be
inadequately
sighted,
because
the
only
citation
here
is
for
off
street
parking
and
basement
occupancy
is
is
forbidden
in
easty
and
it
looks
like
also
the
bpda
is
talking
about
coastal
flooding,
and
so
all
these
you
know,
raise
a
level
of
doubt
with
me
whether
this
has
been
cited
adequately.
B
The
violations
have
been
cited
adequately.
So
may
I
have
a
motion
for
deferral
to
give
the
applicant
an
opportunity
to
get
this
re-looked
at
by
isd.
B
C
I
Here
to
get
tested
to
weigh
in
on
this.
I
AU
I'm
sorry
are
you,
are
you
speaking
with
me
or
someone
else
speaking
this
is
mentioned.
R
I
AV
Sure
all
right,
my
name,
is
ian
ercart
from
northern
reclining
and
fish
at
155,
seaport,
boulevard
in
boston
and
I'm.
I
And
I
just
made
him
a
panelist
of
the
cutout
go
ahead
again.
AV
Okay,
I'm
back
sorry
about
that
hi.
My
name
is
ian
erickard
from
notre
dame
and
fish
at
155,
seaport,
boulevard
in
boston,
and
I'm
here,
representing
the
appellate
jessie
mcdonald
and
also
with
me,
is
the
appellant
justin
mcdonald
and
council
for
the
butter
who
will
be
using
the
space
michael
corral.
AV
Okay,
so
the
appellant
built
three
adjoining
townhouses
fronting
on
medford
street
about
a
year
or
so
ago
and
associated
with
that
zoning
case.
AV
There
was
a
lawsuit
and
a
settlement
within
a
butter
to
provide
one
off
street
parking
space
adjacent
to
486
to
490
medford
street.
So
you'll
you'll
see
it
there
where
it
says
parking
easement
for
the
benefit
of
117
baldwin
street.
So
we're
seeking
relief
to
create
this
parking
space
and
allow
ancillary
parking
for
a
butter
to
use
it.
B
And
so
that
the
the
town
houses,
how
many?
How
many
units
in
that
town
has
three
so
three
and
what's
so,
that's
that
that
which
so
that's
at
medford
street
486.
AV
But
nothing
in
addition.
B
AV
B
Mr
robinson,
can
you
please
help
edify
here.
E
Sure
yeah,
I
don't
have
a
rendering
or
anything
up
the
the
as
the
proponent
is
referencing.
I
mean
it
does
seem
like
there's
a
small
area,
that's
existing
on
the.
B
E
B
AV
That's
it
really
so
there's
a
there's:
an
existing
drive
adjacent
to
the
building
which
the
abutter
has
a
legal
right
to
use.
So
he'll
access
via
the
existing
probe,
cut,
pull
into
the
space
and
pull
out
the
same
way.
So
there
will
be
a
parking
space
with
landscaping
beside
486
to
490
member
statements.
B
BB
E
E
AJ
There's
already
there's
already
front
yard
garages
on
this
for
these
townhouses
so
you're
continuing
that
use
of
the
front
yard
for
accessing
parking.
AV
B
And
how
do
they
so
they
act.
So
in
essence,
what
we're
looking
at
on
this
on
this
what's
up
on
the
screen
is
is
in
is
inaccurate,
because
then
there
are
actually
three
cub
cuts.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
mr
domiko.
T
I'm
sorry
I'm
at
tv,
first
of
all,
the
curb
cut
does
not
align
with
the
proposed
parking
space
and
secondly,
there
is
parking
on
this
street
on
this
side,
both
sides,
actually
so
it
results
in
a
private
parking
space
which
we
are
opposed
to.
B
AM
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
caitlyn
stapleton,
with
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
our
office
would
like
to
defer
to
the
board
on
this
matter.
Our
office
held
in
a
barters
meeting
on
march
22nd,
where
there
was
concerns
regarding
the
parking
spot
being
for
a
non-resident
of
the
condo
association
as
part
of
the
easement
that
was
expressed
by
butters,
along
with
issues
regarding
safety.
AM
I
I
do
have
a
few
rings
hands,
let's
start
with
jesse.
Can
you
stitch
your
name
and
address
to
the
record?
Please.
BC
Good
morning
this
is
jesse
mcdonald,
nine
belmont
street
in
charlestown.
My
name
is
on
this
case
here
I
was
one
of
the
partners
on
the
development
team
and
I
just
wanted
to
show.
If
I
can,
I
can
share
that
right
now.
BC
B
G
Yeah,
yes,
michael
cabral,
611
main
street
winchester
on
behalf
of
gary
kerr
and
karen
kerr
of
butters
to
the
property
and
who
would
have
access
to
this
parking
space
in
support,
obviously
of
the
space
itself
wanted
to
confirm
as
well
that
this
is
the
result
of
litigation
that
allowed
these
three
townhouses
to
be
built
in
the
first
place,
and
also
to
state
that
all
unit
owners
had
notice
of
this
easement.
That
would
be
on
the
condominium
property
as
well.
Thank
you.
It
does
create,
obviously
additional
ostrich
space.
W
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
jeff
hanson
vpda.
We
recommended
denial
without
prejudice.
One
of
our
main
reasons
was
insufficient
open
space
which,
when
you
see
the
project,
there's
none
where
this
parking
was
anyway,
but
we're
in
agreement
with
btd.
F
This
would
be
either
a
massive
curb
cut,
or
it's
going
to
be
the
third
curb
cut
in
a
row
and
we're
opposed
to
this
to
this
proposal.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
miss
ambassador
anybody
else.
If
we
haven't
oh.
BC
B
AD
L
B
Opposed
motion
carries
so
you
know,
let's,
let's
look
for
another
proposal
from
you.
C
On
calling
the
next
case
calling
voa
130
6634
40
union
park,
this
is
a
full
gut
demolition,
including
normal
work
violations.
Article
32,
section,
4
g
card
applicability,
article
64,
section
9
excessive
excessive
far.
The
basement
dormer
increase
article
64,
section,
34,
restricted
roof
structure,
regulations,
reconfiguration
of
the
roof
profile
and
setback
name
and
address
for
the
record
place.
H
Morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
mark
lacasse,
the
cast
law
75
arlington
street
in
boston
with
me,
are
the
homeowners
who
will
be
the
end
users
of
this
building.
After
the
renovation
project,
caitlin
mcgovern
and
her
husband,
connor
pigott,
our
architects
are
mellows
and
palladino,
and
the
contractor
is
holland
and
son
construction
company.
H
H
Yes,
there
should
be
on
record
as
there's
uploaded
into
the
isd
portal,
the
revised
plans
that
showed
a
corrected
refusal
letter
eliminating
the
far
violation,
leaving
the
sole
item
for
consideration,
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
restricted
roof
structure,
which
is
a
dormer
on
the
top
floor
in
the
rear
of
the
property,
with
a
small
roof
deck
there
on
accessed
by
hatch.
H
H
The
basement
is
existing
living
space
that
has
always
been
there.
It
is
a
full
walkout
in
the
back
and
if
we
scroll
down
to
the
elevations
you'll,
see
that
what
is
proposed
for
the
lower
level
is
a
full
set
of
windows
floor
to
ceiling
and
the
basement
will
be.
These
are
existing
a
little
bit
further.
H
Yes,
stop
right
here,
burn
level
plan
on
the
left
hand,
side
shows
a
living
area
in
the
rear
of
the
building
which,
as
I
mentioned,
is
a
full
walk
out
and
an
exercise
room,
a
half
bath
and
a
small
bedroom
in
the
front
with
the
window.
Well,
in
the
front
yard,
that's
existing
and
the
ceiling
height
is
eight
four
and
the
distance
from
the
basement
floor
to
the
lower
sill
in
that
egress
window
is
30
inches.
H
The
roof
deck
is
here
238
square
feet
at
the
rear
of
the
building
on
the
public
alley.
On
top
of
what
is
proposed
as
the
new
dormer
accessed
by
a
hatch,
okay,
scroll
ahead,
just
a
bit
more
there's
an
elevation
as
well,
showing
the
right
there
on
the
right
is
the
proposed
dormer,
with
the
roof
deck
on
the
top.
If
you
just
scroll
the
screen
down
a
little
bit
more
you'll
see
that
there
are
large
windows
on
the
lowest
level.
That's
the
full
walk
out
condition
that
leads
to
the
rear
patio
of
the
yard.
B
Okay,
christian,
you
please
tell
us
about
g
card.
E
Plans
are
good,
I
think,
no
questions
it's
as
advertised
fairly
simple.
All
the
addition
work
is
and
toward
the
rear,
as
well
in
terms
of
the
back
of
the
building.
So
no
questions.
X
Yes,
I'm
good
morning,
madam
chairman,
so
the
board
tim
crucioli
from
the
office
of
neighborhood
services.
Our
office
would
like
to
defer
to
the
board
on
this
matter.
We
held
the
butter's
meeting
in
march
of
2022,
where
full
support
was
shown
by
the
abutters,
as
well
as
union
parking
for
the
association.
Thank
you.
W
B
H
C
Calling
your
next
case
calling
doa
one
three
zero.
Eight
eight
four
one
one
beacon
streak:
this
is
to
remove
the
revisal
for
this
petitioner.
Only
for
takeout
use
36a
a
new
restaurant
to
be
built
out
as
new
salaki
greek
restaurant
violations,
article
6
section
4
remove
the
other
conditions
necessary
for
protection
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
I
BD
BE
Hi,
yes,
jonathan
mendez,
chief
operating
officer,
salini,
greek.
BE
I
believe
there
is
a
zoning
zoning
issue
where
it
does
not
permit
takeout
of
any
kind.
At
this
location.
We
are
going
into
a
second
generation
restaurant
space
that
used
to
be
the
perry
grill
on
the
corner
of,
I
believe
it's
tremont
actually
don't
know
the
cross
street,
but
it's
at
one
beacon
that
tower
right.
There,
it's
a
freestanding
little
building
there
that
was
kind
of
iconic
for
a
very
long
time.
We
are
just
we're,
essentially
the
exact
same
type
of
restaurant
or
fast
casual
restaurant.
BE
We
will
it's
it's
our
company.
This
is.
BE
E
Plans
are
good.
I
know
this
space
while
I
did
prepare
back
in
the
day,
so
I
appreciate
the
challenges
ahead
of
them
in
this
space.
So
good
luck
with
that.
No
questions
on
the
proposed
scope.
B
BF
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
molly
griffin
from
the
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services,
we
would
like
to
defer
to
the
board's
judgment
at
this
time.
We
worked
with
the
applicant
to
do
some
neighborhood
outreach
and
we
reached
out
to
the
beacon
hill,
civic
association,
who
doesn't
really
oversee
this
jurisdiction
in
beacon
hill.
So
at
this
time
we'd
like
to
defer
to
the
board's
judgment.
Thank
you.
W
E
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
with
a
typical,
take
out
license
provisos
and
for
this
applicant
only
all.
C
Following
your
next
case,
calling
doa
one
two,
four,
four:
five:
five:
four:
twenty
three
eight
fleet
road-
that
this
is
to
add
a
driveway
adjacent
to
their
home.
The
violations,
article
55
section
40,
rsp
parking-
is
insufficient
and
article
55,
section
9.
The
side
yacht
is
insufficient
name
and
address
for
the
record.
AT
AC
AB
AB
Parts
jeffrey
mentioned
23
if
we
road
department,
two
jamaica,
plain
mass,
I'm
representing
the
owner
of
the
home
lorena
messer
and
my
mother.
B
This
is
a
three
family
and
tell
us
how
you
are
proposing
to
add
the
driveway.
AB
So
we
already
have
a
driveway
when
my
father
bought
the
home
back
in.
I
believe
it
was
1962
the
driveway
space
already
existed.
AB
B
Yep
the
ripple
effects
of
okay.
So
how
are
the
plans,
mr
robinson.
E
The
plans
show
the
condition
it's
very
tight.
I
think
its
dimension
is
eight
foot
six
clear
at
the
at
the
house,
which
I
think
would
be
limited
there.
There
is
retaining
walls
on
both
sides
of
the
driveway
and
that
is
kind
of
there
and
a
gate,
but
there's
no
curb
cut.
T
AB
But
if
I
may,
if
I
may,
if
I
may
speak,
the
driveway
is
very
big.
I
don't
think
the
point.
The
plans
do
justification,
but
you
can
fit
a
hummer
in
that
driveway
very
easily.
We
went
through
the
approval.
B
AB
E
I
think
the
the
just
for
clarification
purposes.
I
think.
Additionally,
the
problem
is,
we
don't
allow
front
yard
parking.
So
there's
not.
There
is
plenty
of
space
in
the
front
yard,
but
I
don't
think
there's
enough
space
as
you
move
the
car
into
next
to
the
building
to
allow
for
the
size.
So
I
understand
what
the
proponent
is
saying,
but
I
think
the
problem
is.
We
can't
allow
you
to
park
in
the
front
yard.
That's
not
that's
not
allowed
so.
B
Hold
on
hold
on
mr
mystery,
the
question
is,
though,
it
looks
like
this.
Driveway
is
limited
by
two
retaining
walls,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
just
wondering
if
this
is
at
all
doable
for
a
homeowner
who's
been
there
a
long
time
and
who's
now
impacted
by
by
you
know,
actions,
actions
of
approval
of
the
other
project,
and
I
just
tossed
that
out.
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
the
board.
J
J
W
AS
Hi
yes,
good
morning,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
board
tiffany
caballero
here
from
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
the
butters
meeting
was
facilitated
by
our
office
on
october
21st
2021,
with
community
support
from
neighborhood
associations
and
director
butters.
Additionally,
this
boulder
received
support
from
the
eggleston
square,
neighborhood
association,
the
brookside
neighborhood
association
and
the
jamaica
plain
neighborhood
council's
going
sub
committee.
AS
AB
Thank
you,
I'm
chairman
of
all
solid
city
council,
michael
flaherty,
knowing
of
no
known
opposition,
the
council
like
to
go
on
record
support.
B
Much
you're
welcome
good
luck.
Let's
see
it's
11
30,
mr
fortune,.
C
C
BG
BG
We
were
notified
by
the
zba
board
that
a
secretary
that
they
did
not
get
the
refusal
letter
back
in
time
and
had
to
be
ties
with
correct
and
new
violations.
So
we
would
speak
an
administrative
deferral.
B
Thank
you
for
the
reminder.
The
meeting
for
the
board
of
appeal
meeting
for
may
10th
is
back
in
session.
Mr
fortune.
C
Called
the
continuation
of
the
ten
thirty
cases,
colon
case
boa
one:
three:
one:
zero:
five:
zero,
seven.
Twenty
nine,
I'm
sorry
case,
boa
one:
two,
four
three,
eight
five,
three:
seven
eight
to
seven
b
junk
avenue.
This
is
a
finish.
The
basement,
there's
two
new
bedrooms
and
unit
and
change
the
largest
from
a
two
to
three
family
dwelling:
the
violations,
article
60
section
9,
the
fluid
air
ratio
is
excessive.
Article
60,
section
9,
the
usual
open
space
is
insufficient.
C
BJ
Yes,
I'm
here
yeah
good
morning,
everyone
yeah,
the
owner,
is
looking
for
to
look
into.
You
know
during
that
basement
this
unfinished
basement
into
a
two
bedrooms.
Whether
it's
like
we
see
on
our
on
the
joy
and
very
much
is
the
second
is
a
too
funny
house
with
a
really
nice
high
end
basement
and
finish.
That
is
why
they
are
looking
for.
BJ
BJ
The
the
height
all
the
time-
I
don't
have
the
exactly
with
me,
but
it's
over
eight
feet
on
an
entire
basement
bedrooms
everywhere
and
as
you
see,
you
can
see
the
ingress
windows
for
those
venues
and
the
other
separate
entries
from
the
basement
unit.
BJ
Oh,
the
difference:
reduction
height
is
going
to
be
40,
30,
38
or
40
between
38
and
40
inches.
B
Okay
and
then,
where,
where
is,
is
there
a
driveway
on
this
property.
BJ
There
is
a
driveway
on
this
side
and
on
the
right
side
of
the
house.
If
we
are
in
front
of
the
house,
there
is
a
driveway,
a
long
driveway
and-
and
we
have
this
a
lot
of
space
on
the
back
in
the
backyard
or
to
create.
You
know
like
six
six
six
cars
on
on
the
back,
alright
and
on
the
side
of
the
house
in
another
three
cars.
B
Okay
and
the
bedrooms
to
the
window,
the
windows,
the
open
onto
the
driveway
or
where
do
they
open
onto.
B
Okay,
mr
robinson,
it's
not
yet
one,
but
I'm
gonna
ask
your
help
on
this.
How
will
the
plan.
E
The
the
you
know,
I
think
this
is
we're
running
into
a
similar
issue
with
that
we've
had
it
the
height
in
the
basement's
dimensioned
as
seven
feet.
It
does
show
two
foot
six,
but
they
are
basically
showing
area
wells
for
the
bedroom
units
and
there's
no
really
other
windows
available
to
the
natural
light
for
this
unit
below
grade.
B
And
we
have
to
recognize
that
in
this
zoning
district,
the
the
let's
see
the
dwelling
unit
is
a
forbidden
use
in
the
basement
and
in
addition
the
applicant
is
asking,
even
though
there
are
already
two
units
for
variance
from
the
parking
requirement:
correct:
okay,
let's
just
and
it's
two
means
of
egress
and
everything
they.
E
Do
have
the
two
means
of
egress
covered
because
they're
adding
a
stair
to
the
left
side
front
to
gain
access
to
this
as
a
separate
unit.
J
Yeah,
I'm
a
little
confused
about
the
floor
to
ceiling
height.
The
applicant
apparently
has
stated
that
it
was
eight
feet
and
mr
robinson
said
it
was
seven
foot
one
shown
in
the
drawings
that
if
he
wants
to
turn
this
from
a
two
to
three
family,
the
code
requires
that
there
be
a
minimum,
seven
foot
six.
J
So
at
least,
if
we
are
saying
the
plans
are
accurate,
this
is
not
called
compliant
right.
BK
Yes,
the
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
daunting
peoples
from
the
mayor's
house
and
neighborhood
services,
the
mayor
is
also
elected
to
first
the
board
on
this
matter.
The
applicant
had
met
with
the
woodrow
ave
neighborhood
association
on
february
17,
where
residents
had
shown
concerns
around
the
property
being
purchased
through
the
neighborhood
homes
initiative,
as
there
may
be
program
or
deed
restrictions
on
the
property.
However,
the
property
seems
to
have
been
purchased
through
the
program
at
market
rate.
BK
There
was
also
a
meeting
run
by
an
abutters
meeting
run
by
the
officer
neighborhood
services
on
march
21st
2022,
where
the
port
was
owned
by
nebraska,
but
there
was
also
parking
concerned
in
regards
to
the
small
lot
size
and
the
driveway
that
we
spoke
about.
BK
The
mayor's
office
did
receive
a
support
petition
with
names,
support
petition
with
names
over
butters
that
the
applicant
submitted
to
the
board,
as
well
as
I
sent
him
to
the
board,
as
well
as
an
another
letter
of
support
from
another
butter
director
butter.
The
greater
mattapan
neighborhood
council
had
a
polls
proposal
and
sent
in
a
letter
to
the
board,
citing
that
they
don't
feel
the
drawings
reflect
what
is
being
proposed
and,
as
they
may
be
from
2017,
so
it
may
not
be
accurate.
BK
They
also
feel
that
the
applicants
should
apply
through
the
additional
dwelling
unit
program
instead
of
filing
for
a
variance
and
wanted
to
state
that
they
that
the
neighborhood
council
is
opposed
to
variances
for
basement
units.
I
don't
believe
the
woodrow
having
the
woodrow
ave,
neighborhood
association
sent
in
a
letter,
but
they
do
echo
the
sentiments
of
on
concerns
of
summer
butters,
as
well
as
the
great
amount
of
paying
their
per
council
again.
The
mayor
is
also
elected
before
to
defer
to
the
board
on
this
matter.
Thank
you.
AK
Well,
madam
chair,
this
is
tom.
It
looks
like
the
property
was
built
in
2017
as
of
right
so
to
come
forward.
Thank
you.
B
Now
hold
on
mr,
let's
just
find
out
if
anybody
else
wants
to
give
a
testimony.
Okay,.
BL
Hi
joe
swag
we're
calling
from
the
district
for
city
council's
office,
I
didn't
want
to
just
speak
and
say
that
we
are
not
a
supporter
of
this
project
due
to
all
the
various
reasons
online.
Thank.
AC
B
Thank
you,
mr
look.
Go
ahead.
J
Well,
I
was
just
wondering
whether
it's
the
issue
was
raised
about
whether
it's
part
of
the
neighborhood
homes
initiative,
whether
they're
deep
restrictions.
AK
AK
B
Neighborhood
homes
programs
comes
with
their
pre
pre-designed
building
right
and
those
don't
look
very
well
so
anyway
so
and
they
are
already
constructed
and
proposed
to
provide
income
to
the
homeowner
for
to
provide
income
to
the
homeowner.
So
I
don't
know
what
this
means
trying
to
move
these
from
two
to
three
families,
plus
the
basement,
use.
Okay.
So,
given
all
that
information,
may
I
have
a
motion
please
I'm.
B
Is
there
a
second
second
all
those
in
favor,
aye
aye
any
opposed
motion
carries
I'm
sorry.
It's
been
denied
good
luck.
C
The
violations-
article
65
section
8
elderly
housing
use
is
forbidden.
Article
65,
section
42
conforming
with
an
existing
building
alignment.
Article
65
section
9,
the
floridian
ratio
is
excessive.
Article
65,
section
9,
the
bill
in
height
is
excessive
stories.
Article
65,
section
9,
the
villain
has
excessive
and
defeat
article
65,
section
9.
The
rare
yard
is
insufficient
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
BM
Sean
brewer,
sorry
I
needed
to
unmute
myself.
Thank
you.
BM
BM
Thank
you,
jessica,
madame
chair
for
the
record
attorney
sean
greene
of
the
law,
firm
of
hackett
feinberg,
155
federal
street
boston
appearing
before
you
on
behalf
of
the
project
sponsor
vietnamese
american
initiative
for
development
inc
with
me
on
the
panel
this
morning
is
eric,
fellinger,
the
director
of
real
estate,
development
for
viet
aide,
as
well
as
our
project,
architects,
cliff
palmer
and
amelia
mamani,
both
of
davis
square
architects.
BM
BM
No
problem:
three
puzzles
of
25
hamilton,
29,
hamilton
and
33
hamilton
again
aggregate
size,
19,
359
square
feet.
V8
is
a
non-profit
developer,
with
a
mission
to
build
strong,
vibrant
and
diverse
communities
in
rochester.
B
Council,
can
you
go
ahead
just
and
tell
us
about
the
proposal,
because
the
bulk
of
us
know
about
viet
aide,
and
so
we
just
need
to
understand
this
proposal.
No.
BM
Problem
the
proposal
is
to
develop
the
redevelop
the
site
into
much
needed,
affordable
housing
consisting
of
36
one-bedroom
residential
depart
apartments
for
seniors,
62
and
older.
There
will
be
associated
community
room
lobby,
game,
room
management,
office
and
meeting
space,
as
well
as
an
outdoor
courtyard,
2,
000
square
feet
and
13
off
street
parking
spaces
located
on
the
ground
level.
BM
Underneath
the
building
the
project's
construction
does
require
some
a
set
of
zoning
relief
from
this
board,
including
elderly
housing,
being
a
forbidden
use,
the
application
or
conformity
with
the
existing
building
alignment.
The
applicant
is
seeking
a
variance
to
devel,
demolish
the
existing
building
and
construct
a
new
four-stool
story
building
which
does
not
comply
with
the
existing
building
alignment.
BM
B
Let's,
let's,
let's
just
back
up
for
a
minute,
so
how
large
are
the
proposed
units.
BM
Each
unit
defer
that
question
to
eric
and
or
davis
square
to
answer
the
size
of
each
particular
unit.
BN
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Eric
fellinger,
be
it
aid.
The
project
is
funded
through
in
part
through
the
boston
mayor's
office
of
housing,
and
we
are
meeting
their
minimum
size
requirements
of,
I
believe,
that's
at
least
610
square
feet
per
one
bedroom
unit.
BN
Are
100,
affordable,
20
of
the
units
will
be
restricted
to
60
ami
and
below
seven
of
them
to
50
ami
and
the
remaining
nine
at
30
ami.
B
So
it's
60
to
30
percent
ami,
that's
right,
okay
and
tell
us
about
when
your
resident's
age
in
place.
What
is
the
drop-off
pick-up
point
for
for
this
building.
AA
BN
There
is
off
street,
we
are
designing
the
subsurface
parking
garage
to
accommodate
an
ssta
van
and
there
will
be
elevator
access
to
that
level.
There
will
also
be
a
parking
space
where
you
intend
to
work
with
boston
traffic,
to
sign
the
space
on
street
immediately
in
front
of
the
building
as
a
15-minute
space,
so
that
an
ssta
van
may
stop
there
to
make
pickups
conveniently.
B
And
how
many
staff
people
are
you
anticipating
in
this
building.
B
Okay,
so
the
13
spaces
are
both
for
residents
and
for
for
residents
and
for
for
staff.
BN
B
No
okay,
but.
BN
As
you'll
see
in
the
renderings,
we
have
a
substantial
amount
of
the
front
yard
dedicated
as
outdoor
space
for
use
by
the
residents.
B
You
had
said
that
2
000
square
feet
right
approximately
yeah,
okay
and
then
how
many
of
these
units
are
handicapped.
O
E
Plans
are
good,
I
think
it's
a
nice
plan
fits
in
pretty
nicely.
The
slope
of
the
site
is,
I
think,
well,
sort
of
taken
care
of
in
terms
of
the
front
yard
courtyard
so,
and
the
proposal
is,
as
proponents
have
submitted
and
with
no
roof
deck,
so
no
real
questions.
It
looks
like
a
nice
proposal.
J
Yeah,
I
have
one
question
I
mean
it
certainly
seems
like
a
worthy
proposal.
It
seems
a
little
bit
out
of
context
with
the
neighborhood.
I
look
looking
at
google
maps
at
hamilton
street
and
it's
mostly
two
and
three
family,
two
and
three
decker
two
or
three
family
homes.
J
BN
That
sure
happy
to
we
acknowledge
that
point.
We
do
think
that
the
building
fits
in
extremely
nicely
with
the
existing
architecture,
despite
as
you
point
out
the
the
difference
in
scope,
we
have
done
an
extensive
community
meeting
process.
We've
had.
BN
BN
O
O
Well,
where
they,
where
we're
facing
the
street,
that
you
can
see
in
the
rendering
to
the
left,
that's
at
43
feet
our
top
our
highest.
Our
roof
level
on
the
street
is
43
feet
nearby
buildings
they
they
aren't
the
same,
but
they
range
anywhere
from
35
to
40
feet
when,
once
you
count
the
stairways
up
into
the
up
until
the
entry
level,
I.
O
O
O
I
would
also
point
out
that
when
you
do,
google
earth
is
a
great
tool
for
looking
at
this.
The
the
actual
intensity
of
use
of
the
site,
while
we
are
asking
for
a
variance
for
far
most
of
the
surrounding
sites,
are
very
small
sites,
with
a
very
little
distance
between
the
buildings
with
existing
fars.
That
often
are
well
above
one
point.
B
B
B
And
I
think
the
next
question
is,
I
know
this
is
a
v8
via
a
development.
Is
it
going
to
be
open
to
the
public
in
general.
BN
Of
course,
ma'am
through
the
typical
boston,
fair
housing,
managed
lottery
process
for
affordable
units.
B
Okay,
let's
see
any
more
questions
on
the
board.
BO
Good
afternoon
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
denise
de
santos
from
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
I
would
like
to
go
on
record
and
state
that
the
applicant
has
done
a
couple
different
community
meetings
as
well
as
met
with
the
neighborhood
association.
They
have
support
from
the
neighborhood
association.
Some
of
butters
were
concerned
around
density.
BQ
B
BR
I
BM
That
that
was
strawberry
are
asking
to
be
honest,.
BI
AX
I
Okay,
davida
you've
been
a
muted.
BS
Yeah
yeah
late
for
another
meeting,
davida
endelman,
94
clarkson
street.
I
live
actually
a
block
and
a
half
away
from
this
project.
I'm
chair
of
the
greater
voting
geneva
neighborhood
association,
va,
has
gone
above
and
beyond
what
they
needed
to
do
in
terms
of
engaging
the
community.
BS
I
I
Okay,
rochelle.
BQ
BL
I
B
Excellent,
I
was
just
having
some
technical
difficulties,
so
I
did
not
see
the
proposed
building
does.
Does
it
need
design
review.
C
Thank
you
very
much
call
me
next
case
column,
voa,
129,
1466,
1644,
dorchester
avenue.
This
is
a
demolishing
existing
structure,
directly
three-story
eight
unit
residential
building
with
garage
and
front
and
side
roof
decks
the
violation,
article
65,
section
38.
This
is
specific
design
requirements.
The
street
wall
continuity
in
certain
sub-districts
article
65,
section
9,
the
floridia
ratio
is
excessive
and
article
65,
section
9,
the
ray
god
is
insufficient
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
AU
AU
AU
The
existing
building
has
been
used
for
different
purposes
over
the
years,
including
a
funeral
home
a
church
and
as
a
two-family
dwelling,
the
lot
size
is
9
304
square
feet
and
it's
located
in
a
multi-family
residential
local
services.
Zoning
district
the
ground
floor
here
would
consist
of
a
garage
for
10
vehicles
which
meets
code
requirements.
It
would
also
include
the
main
building
entrance
on
dorchester
avenue.
AU
The
garage
entrance
for
an
existing
curb
cut
will
be
reconfigured
in
accordance
with
city
regulations
as
the
size,
as
well
as
a
bicycle
room,
mailroom,
unit
storage,
three,
stop
elevated
elevators,
confirmed,
accessibility
requirements
and
utility
rooms.
The
second
and
third
floors
would
each
contain
four
two
bedroom
units,
ranging
in
size
from
1070
to
1228
square
feet.
The
roof
would
feature
four
centrally
located
12
by
12
roof
decks
one
for
each
of
the
third
floor.
Units
access
would
be
provided
by
hatch.
AU
With
respect
to
the
zoning
chair
members,
the
building
is
nearly
zoney
compliant.
The
zoning
refusal
letter
cites
three
violations.
There
is
a
violation
for
excessive
floor
area
ratio.
The
maximum
far
here
is
one.
What
is
being
proposed
is
an
far
of
1.029,
so
that's
29
one
thousandths
above
the
maximum
f
error
of
one.
AU
Another
violation
is
for
street
wall
continuity,
because
this
is
an
mfr
ls
zoning
district.
The
code
would
actually
require
the
ability
to
have
less
of
a
front
yard
setback
in
order
to
be
in
alignment
with
the
prevailing
alignment
on
the
street,
which
is
set
by
the
commercial
building,
a
block
away
at
the
corner
of
center
street.
AU
AU
The
rear
setback
requirement
here
is
30
feet,
while
the
proposed
setback
varies
from
a
minimum
of
six
feet
at
two
points,
where
the
building
jogs
but
12
to
18
feet
for
much
of
the
rest
of
the
building,
and
I
would
know
for
the
record
that
the
setback
of
the
existing
building
at
its
nearest
point
to
the
rear
outline
is
also
approximately
six
feet
with
that
man.
I'm
sure
we'll
pause
and
take
any
questions
that
members
may
have.
B
So
out
of
so,
I
understand
that
the
the
existing
building
may
be
closer
to
the
property
line.
However,
it's
a
less
impactful
building.
What
is
is
is
that
the
best
that
the
applicant
can
do
how
what
is
the
distance
between
the
furthest,
rear
yard
line
and
the
abutting
property.
AU
BT
Yes,
thank
you,
george,
madam
chair
tim
johnson
project
architect.
These
would
be
two
buildings
directly
behind
us
on
elm
lawn
street
number,
eight
and
number
ten
who
we
have
worked
closely
with
their
rear
yard
setbacks.
Although
I
don't
have
an
exact
dimension.
Madam
chair,
I
am
going
to
estimate
approximately
10
to
12
feet
to
their
rear
portion
of
the
rear
of
their
house.
B
So
in
total,
then,
with
your
six
to
12
feet
and
they're
12
feet,
there
should
be
a
decent
amount
of
separation.
Then.
BT
B
BT
And
that's
why
we
we
jogged
the
rear
of
the
I
was
building
madam
chair,
so
we
wouldn't
have
one
straight
facade
facing
the
rear,
butters.
BT
AU
Mr
fortune,
george
branson
speaking,
there
was
a
larger
project,
a
nine
unit
project
that
was
denied
without
prejudice
by
the
board
in
april
of
2021.
I
was
not
involved
in
that
project
and
it
was
a
different
applicant.
B
And
mr
johnson
are
the
bees
on
the
property
or
over
the
sidewalk.
B
Excellent
okay,
mr
robinson,
how
are
the
plans.
E
Plans
are,
are
fine,
they're
good,
I
think
it's.
It
is
consistent
with
the
street.
Obviously,
it's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
contemporary
take.
I
I
do
appreciate
the
bays
and
the
decks
on
the
front
as
you
face
dorchester
avenue
and
I
think,
based
on
what
it
looks
like
they're
trying
to
you
know,
mitigate
any
impact
on
the
rear
butters
to
the
best
of
their
ability.
B
Thank
you
is
this
proposed
to
be
a
lead,
building
or
leed
certified
in
any
way.
BT
This
is
tim
johnson
again
no
ma'am.
This
won't
be
leed
certified
help.
However,
it
will
be
100
electrified
for
heating,
cooling
and
cooking.
There
will
be
no
fossil
fuels
coming
into
this
building.
Of
course,
it
will
be
built
to
the
stretch
energy
code,
which
is
20
percent,
more
energy
efficient
than
current
code.
BT
The
landscaping
we
have,
firstly,
with
the
rear,
butters
working
with
fencing
in
the
rear
and
planting
deciduous
trees
strategically
placed
along
the
rear
of
the
property.
We
do
not
have
a
landscape
plan
per
se,
but
we
hope
to
generate
one
during
vpda
design
review.
B
AA
Yes,
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
george
flynn,
with
the
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services,
our
office
hosted
a
buddhist
meeting
for
the
project.
On
march
1st,
some
neighbors
expressed
concern
cutbacks,
privacy
and
shade,
for
which
the
proponent
performed
a
shadow
study,
the
north
area,
civic
association,
voted
in
support
of
the
proposal.
AA
AA
From
my
understanding,
it
was
a
couple
of
the
most
immediate
butters
expressing
some
concern
after
the
boat,
with
density
and
with
sort
of
effect
on
their
view
and
the
shadow
study,
but
that's
kind
of
the
civic
association
pretty
much
followed
suit
with
what
that
immediate
butters.
What
those
couple
immediate
butters
wanted,
and
since
those
few
folks
change
their
minds,
you
know
that's
kind
of
what
happened
there.
B
And
and
mr
fortune,
what
is
the
opposition.
BS
I
Okay
and
I'm
sure
I
do
have
two
races.
Second
start
with
apple
you've
been
on
youtube.
Can
you
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record?
Please.
AP
B
Okay
and
in
supporter
and
opposition
of
this
proposal,.
BU
BU
Project
I'm
the
former
president
of
the
st
marx
area,
civic
association.
You
know
you
guys
were
nice
enough
to
decline
this
project
as
a
nine
unit
project.
Not
much
has
changed
since
one
less
project.
BU
The
owner
immediately
started
to
try
to
gain
support
after
your
denial
in
the
past,
and
he
intends
to
sell
this
project
only
if
you
approve
it.
If
you
approve
this,
he
will
sell
it
to
the
current
applicant.
If
you
deny
it,
the
deal
is
dead,
so
the
project
to
me
is
ugly.
It's
too
big.
It's
too
close
to
the
neighbors.
BU
AU
I
just
want
to
reiterate
again
just
in
terms
of
the
zoning.
This
is
essentially
zoning,
compliant
with
respect
to
density,
floor
area
ratio,
there's
no
height
violation,
there's
no
front
yard
setback
violation
in
terms
of
this
building
not
being
set
back
far
enough
nor
side
yard
violations.
AU
What
we're
really
looking
at
here
is
a
rear
yard
violation
where
the
building
is
no
closer.
It
is
wider
along
the
lot,
but
it's
no
closer
than
the
existing
building
at
two
points.
But
most
of
this
building
is,
you
know,
anywhere
from
10
to
15
feet
away
from
the
rear
lot
line
and
again,
there's
no
height
violation,
and
we
did
go
through
the
exercise
of
producing
shadow
studies
showing
that
there
are
no
appreciable
shadows
to
be
cast
on
the
buildings
in
the
rear.
AU
So
again,
with
the
with
a
conforming
building
height,
you
know
the
this
would
be.
I
mean
it's,
it's
virtually
zoning
compliance
I'll
understand
there.
B
Okay,
so,
given
all
that
information,
may
I
have
a
motion
please.
E
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
with
bpda
design
review,
I
think,
for
an
extensive
landscaping
plan.
Also.
I
think
I
appreciate
the
proponents
pulling
back
from
dorchester
avenue,
but
obviously,
when
pulling
back
you're
encroaching
a
little
bit
more
on
elm
lawn
street.
So
I
think
if
the
bpa
could
look
at
the
sighting
of
the
building
in
general
and
then
just
a
general
design
review
for
the
exterior
materials.
AJ
C
C
The
scope
of
work
includes
reframing
the
roof
interior
gut
renovation
and,
in
addition
to
the
existing
single
family
violations,
article
65
section
41
wall
street
parking
loading,
article
65,
section
9
of
the
lot
areas
insufficient
article
in
the
floridia
ratio
is
excessive.
Article
65,
section
9,
the
building
heights,
excessive
its
stories,
article
65,
section,
9
front
yard,
is
insufficient
and
article
65,
section
9,
the
side
yard
isn't
sufficient
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Y
Adam
chair
members
of
the
board
attorney
ryan
spitz,
with
the
business
address
of
350
west
broadway.
South
boston
here
with
me
today,
is
dennis
greenwood,
the
architect
from
susan
design,
on
behalf
of
the
owners,
jonathan
and
laura
lenahan.
Y
So
this
as
as
stated
into
the
record,
there's
a
proposal
to
create
additional
living
space
into
an
existing
single-family
dwelling
within
a
one
f-5
000
sub-district.
Y
Y
The
first
floor
will
add
a
new
covered
porch
with
an
additional
10
feet
of
square
square
feet.
Addition
to
widen
the
actual
entrance
way.
The
porch
will
be
approximately
about
25
feet
wide
and
about
seven
feet.
I
mean
twenty
twenty
five
feet
long
seven
feet
wide.
Y
Y
Will
the
square
footage
would
increase
by
98
square
feet
accumulating
to
approximately
eleven
hundred
ninety
nine
square
feet
for
the
first
floor
plan
second
floor
plan,
there
will
be
a
new
bay
window
on
the
front
of
the
house
that
will
add
an
additional
13
square
feet
further.
The
proposal
will
raise
the
raise
the
footprint
to
the
second
floor,
with
the
rare
edition
by
77
square
feet.
Total
square
footage
for
the
second
floor
plan
will
now
result
in
892
square
feet.
There
also
will
be
currently
there
is
a
livable
space
in
the
basement.
Y
The
basement
will
also
be
excavated
to
include
the
existing
building
footprint
on
the
left-hand
side,
which
will
add
an
additional
118
square
feet
to
the
to
the
property
to
create
more
additional
living
space.
The
total
square
footage
of
the
basement
will
now
be
568
square
feet.
Y
So
the
proposed
use
of
the
basement
is
just
going
to
be
a
increase
in
additional
living
space.
In
here
we
can
find
that
on
page
six
of
the
plans
there
give
you
a
little
bit
more
insight
on
what
it
is
again
currently
right
now,.
Y
929
square
feet
so
right
now,
the
existing
property
is
at
2
353
square
feet,
and
so
the
total
what's
being
proposed
is
at
32.79.
The
far
is
already
non-conforming.
What's
required
by
the
code
is
a
0.5.
What
is
existing
is
a
0.52.
This
would
increase
the
far
to
a
0.73.
B
Can
you
please,
who
said
I'm
sorry
whoever's
running
the
screen?
Can
you
move
back
a
couple
of
pages
so
we
can
see
the
basement
plan.
Thank
you.
Y
That
would
be
on
page
page
six.
Y
Yes
correct:
yes,
there
is
a
family
room
in
the
basement,
so,
as
you
can
see
where
the
red
area
there
is
in
the
basement,
that
will
be
the
additional
square
footage
that
will
be
excavated
out
just
to
match
the
existing
footprint
of
the
building.
So
that
again,
that
will
be
excavated
out.
We
approximately
have
eight
foot
sailing
height
in
the
basement.
E
Planes
are
good,
I
think
it's
a
you
know
it's
a
a
lot
of
little
ads
here
and
there,
too
looks
like
increased
usability,
no
questions
and
the
proposal
on
the
basement
is
an
extension
of
a
family
room.
It
looks
like
for
a
little
bit
more
seating
area,
but
nothing.
AV
E
AA
Madam
chair
members
of
the
board
george
wing
with
the
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services,
our
office,
hosted
in
the
butter's
meeting
for
the
proposal
on
march
30th.
We
receive
no
concerns
from
the
community
or
the
cedar
grove
civic
association.
At
this
time,
our
office
would
like
to
defer
judgment
to
the
board.
Thank
you.
I
We
do
have
a
raised
hand
here,
one
second,
dennis
greenwood,
you've
been
a
muted.
Can
you
stay
payment
address
for
the
market?
Please.
BV
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
on
your
next
case
calling
doa
one
three:
zero:
nine
five:
three
zero
sixty
one
paris
avenue
this
will
extend
the
existing
driveway
to
the
rear
of
the
property
and
add
six
parking
spaces
at
the
rear,
adding
new
retaining
wall.
The
violations,
article
9
section,
1
extension
of
a
non-conforming
use,
article
10,
section,
1
limitation
of
parking
areas
and
article
65,
section,
8
and
accessory
parking
to
an
existing
is
a
forbidden
use.
It's
conditional
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
AU
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
george
marantzy,
I'm
an
attorney
with
business
address
at
350,
west
broadway
in
south
boston.
My
client
is
kevin
gorham.
He
purchased
61
pierce
avenue
last
june
and
has
been
renovating
it
since
that
time
within
zoning
requirements.
Building
is
an
existing
three-family
dwelling.
It
is
in
the
2f
5000
zoning
sub-district,
so
it
is
a
lawful
non-conforming
use.
The
proposal
is
to
add
an
area
in
the
rear
yard
for
six
parking
spaces.
AU
The
spaces
would
be
9.7
feet
by
18
and
a
half
feet,
and
the
parking
area
will
be
accessed
by
an
already
existing
curb
cut
and
the
driveway
which
meets
a
minimum
with
requirements.
Sighted
zoning
violations
are
a
bit
esoteric.
Actually
one
is
for
extension
of
a
non-conforming
use.
It
would
be
my
position
that
this
is
cited
incorrectly.
The
non-conforming
use
here
is
the
existing
three-family
dwelling,
but
the
use
is
not
being
extended.
AU
BE
AU
BE
B
AU
B
Hold
on
mr
moran
see
so,
can
you
give
us
details
and
tell
us
about
the
driveway?
What's
the
size
of
that?
What's
the.
AU
Size
at
its
minimum
point:
it's
10
feet
wide,
so
it's
it's!
It
conforms.
It
conforms
with
with
code
and
btd
regulations
for
residential
driveway.
B
And
is
there
parking
on
that
side
of
the
street.
AU
It's
an
existing
carpet,
there
is
parking,
but
it's
an
existing
carpet.
This
isn't
new.
In
fact,
it
would
probably
be
reduced
to
be.
You
know
less
wide
than
it
is
now.
It
would
certainly
be
no.
No
more
than
you
know.
10
foot
wide,
curb
cut
12
12
feet
at
the
flares,
but
it
is
existing.
It's
been
there
for
many
years.
B
AU
I
guess
man,
I'm
sure
that
were
this
to
be
approved,
my
assumption,
because
of
screening
and
buffering
requirements,
it
would
be
with
bpda
design
review,
in
which
case
I
would
suggest
the
bpda
would
dictate
what
kind
of
materials
would
be
used.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
paving
of
the
parking
area,
but
I
would
suggest
sorry.
AU
I
would
state
that
over
40
percent
of
the
of
the
site
that
is
unoccupied
by
the
existing
building
would
be
would
be
a
green
space,
a
landscape,
open
space,
there's
no
usable
open
space
violation
being
created.
In
response
to
some
current
concerns
of
the
butters
meeting.
AU
My
client
assured
that
the
existing
shade
trees
in
the
rear
of
the
site
will
be
maintained
and
he
provided
an
updated
landscape,
drawing
showing
privacy
screening
sensing
mulch
fed
shrubberies,
unfortunately,
because
of
the
two-week
requirement
in
terms
of
submitting
updated
plans
to
get
them
before
the
board.
On
the
hearing
date,
we
weren't
able
to
get
the
the
updated
landscaping
plan
before
the
board
today,
but
it
has
been
produced.
E
Plans
are
good,
no
questions
and
it
appears
as
the
council's
outlined.
I
no
issues.
AA
I
T
Yes,
bob
domingo
boston
transportation
department,
madam
chair,
ladies
and
members
of
the
board,
I'd
like
to
request
that
spaces
three
and
four
be
removed
for
impr,
improved
maneuverability
and
to
allow
for
proper
screening
and
buffering.
Thank
you.
I
I
BW
Don't
bird
and
I
live
at
6567
pierce
avenue
in
dorchester
it's
the
property
of
budding
61
pierce
avenue,
and
I
appreciate
I
was
at
the
at
butters
meeting
back
in
november
and
did
raise
a
concern
about
there
being
no
fencing
to
provide
for
screening
and
at
that
time,
and
I
understand
that
a
proposal
has
been
made
to
add
some
sort
of
screening
to
the
west
side
of
the
property
that
about
my
property
to
deal
with
that.
But
since
I
have
a
plan
not
available,
I
would
have
to
defer
to
your
committee
on
that.
BW
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Let
me
just
see
mr
hampton.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
jeff
hampton
bpda.
We
went
on
the
record
recommending
denial
of
this.
We
echo
in
the
sentiments
of
bob
domiko
and
btd
that
six
spaces
are
too
many
in
the
backyard.
AU
Madam
chair
george
variancy,
if
I
may,
just
in
response
to
mr
d'amico
and
bbda,
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
mr
d'amico
about
the
two
proposed
parking
spaces
in
question
for
those
two
spaces,
the
central
ones.
The
concern
is
that
they
are
nearer
than
the
other
spaces
to
a
rear,
porch
structure,
the
distance
between
the
rear
wall
of
the
rear
of
the
parking
space
and
the
in
the
rear.
Most
space
of
the
porches
is
33
and
a
half
feet.
AU
A
ford
explorer
is
about
16
and
a
half
feet
long,
which
means
that
there's
a
distance
of
an
entire
vehicle
length
to
make
the
turn
in
and
out
of
those
two
parking
spaces
for
a
large
suv.
You
know
never
mind
a
smaller
power.
I
also
do
have
to
point
out
something
that
is
not
evident
from
the
site
plan,
which
is
that
the
base
of
the
porch
structure
is
actually
poured
concrete,
which
varies
from
about
one
foot,
to
three
feet
above
grade,
and
that
is
what
is
supporting
the
porch
structure.
AU
The
the
retaining
walls
on
the
side
are
are
three
to
four
feet:
I'm
not
certain
but
they're
they're.
Obviously,
code
yeah,
they're,
nothing
that
that
violates
code
requirements,
they're
approximately
three
to
four
feet.
Thereabouts.
B
C
B
Sure
is
there
a
second.
C
E
B
C
BX
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
attorney
john
palgini
10
ports,
ronald
braitry,
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
so
this
is
389
to
pon
sedav
in
dorchester,
it's
located
in
the
deposit
business
district.
The
zoning
in
this
district
is
local
convenience.
BX
As
mr
fortune
stated,
this
proposal
to
create
an
ice
cream
shop
in
the
existing
commercial
building.
This
will
be
a
subdivision
of
existing
space.
With
the
this
side
is
an
ice
cream
shop.
The
other
side
in
the
future
will
hopefully
be
a
yoga
studio.
Formerly
this
was
a
very
large
dentist
office
as.
BX
One
after
the
other
manager,
the
only
violation
is
the
conditional
use
of
small,
take
out
the
use
as
an
ice
cream
shop
isn't
allowed
use
and
there
will
also
be
no
manufacturing
of
ice
cream
on
site.
As
far
as
programming
the
retail
space
will
be
approximately
586
square
feet,
egress
at
side
and
front
all
entrances
are
handicap
accessible.
There
will
be
a
side
service
window
in
the
alleyway
to
the
left
of
the
space.
B
Okay,
how
are
the
plans,
mr
robinson.
E
Plans
are
good,
no
question
look
forward
to
it.
Come
to
the
neighborhood.
AA
I
AJ
B
Yep
take
out
language
and
this
applicant
only
so
miss
spenato.
Are
you
comfortable
with
those
okay.
AN
C
BH
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
attorney
derek
small
business
address
of
51
dobson
road.
I'm
chair
we're
here
today
seeking
relief
to
change
the
legal
occupancy
of
the
building
from
a
pharmacy
to
a
function
hall.
The
zoning
sub
district
is
a
neighborhood
shopping
district
and
our
violation
is
that
the
use
proposed
is
a
conditional
use.
We
are
seeking
a
conditional
use
problem.
B
Tell
us
more
about
this
function
hall.
What
are
the
hours
of
operation?
What's
the
capacity
who
is
going
to
be
running
it
yeah.
BH
So
the
capacity
is
224
patrons
the
approximate
square
foot
of
the
function
hall
is
approximately
2
770
square
feet
and
my
clients
were
proposing
to
do
wedding
receptions.
Graduation
parties,
things
of
that
nature,
barbara
tombi
and
vincent
vulgar,
who
are
the
proprietors,
are
also
on
the
call.
BH
BH
That's
correct,
and
so
what
we're
proposing
madam
chair,
it
will
be
that
people
leasing
the
space
will
have
to
go
through
the
city
of
boston's
licensing
board
to
get
one-day
vet,
entertainment
events
and
licenses
in
order
to
have
functions
that
will
contain
the
at
the
site.
I.
BH
B
B
How
are
the
plans,
mr
robinson.
E
E
No
questions
pretty
straightforward
in
terms
of
the
plans.
BY
I
would
take
that
question.
My
name
is
robert
tambi
record
myself
and
vincent
boliga
acquired
this
place
to
add
to
the
existing
business.
We
have
here
on
river
street,
we're
very
friendly
in
the
community.
Yes,.
D
BY
Personally,
have
an
experience
running
a
function
hall
not
in
this
state
at
around
massachusetts,
but
we
are
people
of
very
good
character,
and
this.
This
is
something
that
we
we
we
we
hope
to
hire
an
event
manager
because
I'm
a
physical
therapist.
We
in
time
and
again,
we
we
just
a
point
of
correction
lawyers.
Small
set
is
2
000
square
feet,
it's
actually
4
200.,
I'm
looking
here
at
the
site
plan
and
the
the
lease
and
to
answer
one
other
question,
which
I
think
the
madam
chair
aspect
we
both
missed.
B
And
let's
just
ask
you
one
of
the
questions.
The
the
thing
is,
if
there's,
if
there's
an
issue
at
any
one
of
these
events,
who
does
somebody
contact.
BY
BY
Let
me
clarify
that
aspect,
either
myself
or
vincent
buliger,
who
are
the
owners
or
who
are
the
members?
Will
one
of
us
will
be
on
site
at
all
times
when
there's
a
function,
even
even
if
we
are
off-site
for
a
few
minutes,
we
have
a
close
second
security
camera
inside
and
surrounding
the
building
that
we
can
monitor
from
our
phone
or
from
any
computer
anywhere
yes,
but
will
be
actively
involved
in
the
management
of
the
place.
B
And
the
other,
I
have
two
other
questions:
music
generally
when
we
see
function,
halls
or
bars,
or
anything
like
that,
there's
a
concern
about
keeping
music
volume
down
or
and
and
putting
it
off
at
a
certain
time
and
security.
So
that,
should
there
be
any
disruptions
you
know,
there's
some
some
man
somebody
there
to
deal
with
those.
BY
The
first
is
that
the
place
was
initially
wired,
such
that
we
we
can
control
the
volume
that
those
secular
and
those
computers
are
placed
in
then
number
two.
It
is
also
sound
proof
number
three.
We
don't
allow
outside
speakers
to
be
brought
in,
like
some
of
those
speakers
they
play
at
fenway
is
on
our
standard
contract
form.
You
come
in
with
your
music
equipment
and
use
our
speakers
which
are
low
to
moderate
frequencies.
That
will
not
disturb
the
neighbors,
and
actually
there
is
no
neighbor
around
here
at
night.
B
Any
other
questions
from
the
board
is
anybody
to
speak
here
and
support
our
opposition.
BD
Morning,
madame
chair
or
excuse
me
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
this
is
danielle
fonseca
with
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services
and
the
applicants.
Robert
and
vincent,
for
this
proposal
completed
the
community
process.
They
notified
all
the
butters
mailing
and
distributing
flyers
for
the
community
meeting
that
I
hosted
that
was
held
on
march
24th.
BD
At
this
community
meeting
high
park
main
streets
was
present.
Some
abutters
that
were
present
at
the
community
meeting
verbally
gave
support
for
this
project.
In
addition,
we
have
letters
of
support
that
have
been
sent
to
the
board,
just
speaking
on
robert
and
vincent
as
business
owners,
as
they
also
run
the
they
have
a
therapy.
BD
Yeah
physical
therapy
shop,
that's
a
few
doors
down,
so
they
were
speaking
on
the
character
of
them
and
just
wanted
to
give
support
at
this
time,
we'd
like
to
defer
judgment
to
the
board.
Thank
you.
BD
There
was
questions
around
the
concern
of
parking
in
that
schedule
and
when
those
questions
were
brought
up,
robert
and
vincent
explain
that
they
have
parking
in
the
back
where
the
municipal
lot
is
as
well
as
since
this
is
the
business
commercial
district
area.
There
are
several
spaces
for
parking
in
the
area
as
well.
There
were
not
concerns
from
any
abutters
in
terms
of
loud
noise
or
music
or
or
how
that
would
impact
from
that
end.
BB
I
I'm
sorry,
I
do
have
a
lace
hand
here.
Dj
charlie.
BZ
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
charles
williams,
also
known
as
dj
charlie
b,
former
boston
resident,
I'm
I
reside
at
115
leon
court
in
hanson
mass.
I
am
in
support
of
this
space.
BZ
I
am
a
I
work
in
the
high
park
area.
I
have
family
relatives
and
many
clients,
robert
and
vincent,
as
many
have
mentioned,
also
on
the
physical
therapy,
which
is
next
door,
and
this.
BQ
Hello,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
izzy
slater
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
city
councillor
at
large
recently
louisiana.
Our
office
would
like
to
go
on
record
in
support
of
the
project.
BI
B
Okay,
so
counselor,
yes,
okay,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
you
so
so
for
this.
For
this
place
to
operate
without
alcohol,
they
do
not
need
a
review
by
the
licensing
board
right.
B
So
only
with
alcohol
would
they
go
to
the
licensing
board,
which
would
then
determine
hours
of
of
operation,
and
what
time
the
facility
would
close.
B
Okay,
so,
okay,
so
this
is
a
conditional
use
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
conditions
might
be.
But
may
I
have
a
motion
because
it
looks
like
it
is
of
course
signage
to
this
applicant
only
and
some
form
of
control
on
closing
hours
is
it
a
1,
am
closing
or
a
midnight
closing.
J
How
about
well,
the
the
other
things
you
mentioned
are
are
clear.
The
the
only
question
is
the
closing
time
how
about
midnight
during
the
week
and
one
am
on
the
weekend.
AJ
B
J
E
B
Know
I'm
keen
on
that.
Yes,
so
what
do
we
want
to
say
a
year.
B
No
we'd
like
to
see
council
we'd
like
to
see
them
before
then
just
to
see
if
there
are
any
red
flag
issues
that
we
should
just
be
clear
about.
AC
E
I'll
try
to
make
a
motion
so
make
a
motion
to
approve
with
a
bpa
review
for
signage
and
then
for
hours
of
operation.
Close
at
12
am
during
the
week
and
then
1am
on
friday
and
saturday
nights
and
sunday
nights.
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
weekday
or
not
with
a
one-year
sunset
clause
or
return
to
this
board
clause
for
just
review
of
the
previous
year's
operations.
C
calling
doa
128,
9077,
4160
or
4164
washington
street.
This
is
direct
9
400
square
feet,
four-story
basement
building
with
six
residential
units
on
floors.
Two
three
and
four:
two
corn,
shell,
commercial
units
basement
and
ground
floor
with
parking
for
four
vehicles
on
the
ground
level
violations:
article
67,
section,
33,
traffic
visibility
across
the
corner
is
insufficient.
C
Article
67,
section,
29,
specific
design,
review
the
street
wall;
continuity
of
bexley
road
article
67,
section
32.
Our
street
parking
is
insufficient.
Article
67,
section
12,
the
building
height
is
excessive
in
feet.
Article
67,
section,
12,
the
building
height,
is,
is
excessive
in
stories
and
article
67
section
12,
the
floating
ratio
is
accessible
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
BV
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
attorney
matt
fitzgerald
from
dla
piper
33r
street
in
boston
here
on
behalf
of
juan
chavez,
the
applicant
who's,
the
owner
of
4160-4164,
washington,
street
and
roslindale
also
the
long
time
proprietor
of
the
auto
body
shop
that
exists
at
the
location.
Currently,
mr
chavez
is
proposing
at
this
location,
to
demolish
the
existing
one
to
two
story:
auto
body
structure
and
to
construct
in
its
place
a
four-story
mixed-use
building
consisting
of
six
residential
units
on
floors.
BV
Two
through
four
two
commercial
units
on
the
ground
floor
facing
washington
street
in
four
off
street
parking
spaces
at
the
rear
of
the
building
to
be
accessed
from
bexley
road.
For
a
total
of
for
a
total
ground
gross
floor
area.
Excuse
me
approximately
9232
square
feet.
The
lot
area
is
approximately
3
150
square
feet.
The
commercial
units
will
each
measure
about
1
000
square
feet
consisting
of
470
square
feet,
the
basement,
which
will
be
used
for
storage
purposes
only
and
on
the
first
level
the
commercial
units
will
measure
approximately
533
square
feet.
BV
Each
of
the
residential
units
on
floors.
Two
through
four
will
measure
approximately
1051
square
feet.
It
will
consist
of
three
bedrooms
and
two
bathrooms:
each
it's
a
neighborhood
shopping
sub
district
within
the
roslindale
neighborhood
district,
as
the
as
the
secretary
has
just
just
pointed
out.
We
are
seeking
relief
for
excessive
far.
BV
The
required
height
is
three
stories
of
35
feet.
We
are
proposing
four
stories
and
approximately
37
feet:
eight
and
a
half
inches
we're
seeking
relief,
also
for
insufficient
parking
in
the
neighborhood
shopping
district.
Two
parking
spaces
are
required
per
dwelling
unit,
as
well
as
two
parking
spaces
for
one
thousand
square
feet
of
roast
floor
area
of
office
or
retail
space.
BV
I
believe,
in
july
july,
of
2021
with
a
similar
project,
he
was
proposing
a
four-story
project
similar
to
today
with
two
commercial
units
in
one
residential
unit
on
the
ground
floor,
six
resident
residential
units
on
floors,
two
through
four,
so
a
total
of
seven
residential
units,
as
opposed
to
six
which
he's
proposing.
Today
he
was
not
proposing
and
I'm
sorry,
he
was
also
proposing
a
shared
roof
deck
without
any
parking,
so
no
parking
was
being
proposed
at
that
time.
B
So
counselor
can
I
whoever
is
running
the
screen
and
I
apologize.
Can
you
go
back
to
the
very
beginning
because
it
looks
like
there
are
two
lots:
are
these
lots
going
to
be
combined
or
are
they
already
combined?
It.
AJ
B
Okay
and
it's
and
let
me
ask
you
so:
there's
no
roof
deck.
Is
this
an
elevator
building.
BV
It
is
madam
chair:
we
we
are
proposing
an
elevator
to
run
from
the
basement
to
the
roof.
B
Okay,
so
you
know
this
is
marginally
better
than
the
last
proposal,
but
tell
us
what
kind
of
thought
process,
because
I
know
mr
chavez
has
responded
to
the
plucking
concerns,
because
I
know
that
was
raised
and
this
continues
to
be
raised.
It
sounds
like
from
all
the
letters
that
we've
gotten
we've
gotten
as
a
board
about
this
project.
B
That
parking
continues
to
be
an
issue,
and
competition
for
parking
at
the
at
the
street
did
the
applicant
think
about
eliminating
those
commercial
units.
BV
Madam
chair,
that
that
was
considered.
However,
the
business
community
has
voiced,
you
know,
support
for
the
commercial
units.
I
mean,
as
you
know,
that's
on
the
sort
of
the
that's
right
sort
of
in
the
in
the
roslindale
square
business
district
or
on
the
outskirts
of
it.
I
should
say
so.
You
know
dating
back
to
when
mr
chavez
was
proposing
a
project.
Last
year
he
met
with
the
business
community,
who
voiced
concern
about
their
not
originally
not
being
proposed
commercial
spaces.
BV
So
in
in
response
to
the
business
community's
concerns,
he
had
agreed
to
include
two
commercial
spaces,
and
I
think,
frankly,
madam
chair,
I
think
that
is
also
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
shopping
in
sort
of
neighborhood
business.
Sub-District
zoning,
where
you
have,
I
think,
it's
fairly
consistent,
where
you
have
commercial
uses
on
the
ground
floor
with
residential.
B
BV
Yeah
man,
I'm
sure
I
think
it
is,
I
think
I
mean,
as
you
pointed
out,
it's
a
small
lot.
You
know
that
that
is
the
reason
for
these
violations.
I
mean
we
have
some
serious
law
constrictions
here,
which
is
the
reason
why
I
think
that
you
know
we're
only
able
to
support
four
parking
spaces,
for
example,
but
I
think
that
if
you
look
at
that
corridor
between
roslindale
square
and
forest
hills,
I
think
that
you
have
many
buildings
like
this.
That
are
that
that
are,
you,
know,
sort
of
have
similar
densities
and.
AB
BV
And
I
have
heard
this
board
very
recently
in
speaking
on
projects
in
this
area
and
specifically
in
this
corridor,
has
stated
that
this
car
can
support
more
density.
I
I
have
heard
this
board
say
that,
and
so
I
think-
and
I
think
the
reason
why
this
you
know
the
the
close
to
3.0
if
they
are
appears
a
lot
worse
than
it
is
it's
because
it
is.
BV
You
know
it
is
a
small
lot,
but
that
being
said,
I
think
it's
it's
very
consistent
with
recently
approved
projects
with
projects
that
are
are
in
the
area
today,
and
you
know,
projects
that
are
sort
of
in
the
pipeline
and
pending
that
will
likely
appear
before
this
board
very
soon
so
well.
I
certainly
appreciate
that
you
know
a
1.0
requirement
and
where,
where
you
know
and
we're
proposing
2.96,
I
can
certainly
appreciate
the
concern
of
the
board.
BV
E
Plans
are
good
proposal,
as
you
see
it,
there's
no,
nothing
nothing
hiding
in
here.
So
it's
pretty
straightforward.
AW
Yes,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
conor
newman
with
the
mayor's
office
and
services
at
this
town,
the
mayor's
office
like
to
defer
judgment
to
the
board
some
background
information.
The
property
owner
has
included
more
parking
the
project
this
time
around
and
has
removed
the
shared
roof
deck
after
concerns
were
expressed
from
the
community.
The
owner
has
also
had
two
environmental
assessments
saying:
there's
no
contamination.
It's
in
the
process
of
securing
these
new
assessments
for
documentation.
AW
We
still
have
heard
concerns
from
the
neighborhood
regarding
changes.
What
they
feel
will
be
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
through
the
design
of
the
building,
the
density,
as
well
as
competition
for
parking,
which
you've
heard
earlier,
especially
regarding
those
commercial
units,
the
ground
floor,
potentially
impacting
parking
with
the
loading
loading
zones
and
other
vehicles.
R
BA
AW
AW
B
Thank
you,
miss
ambassador
anybody
else.
Yep.
CA
Hi
good
afternoon
yay,
this
is
counselor
at
large
julia
mejia.
I
believe
that
I
also
see
jordan
frias,
who
is
the
chief
of
staff
for
council
arroyo's
office,
so
he's
the
district
counselor,
but
I'm
here
as
at
large
counselor
to
state
and
go
on
the
record
in
my
support
of
this
particular
project.
CA
I
do
know
that
the
folks
who
have
been
working
on
it-
this
is
not
their
first
time
in
front
of
you
and
for
the
community
and
they've
done
their
dual
diligence
to
not
only
hear
but
to
also
respond
to
the
needs
of
the
community
and
and
adjust
their
plans
accordingly.
So
I'm
here
to
offer
my
strong
support
on
behalf
of
this
project.
Thank
you.
CB
C
I
CC
Coomer,
I
am
at
117
florence
street
a
block
away
and
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
I
have
points
of
concern
and
I'm
talking
against
the
proposal.
CC
I
would
be
okay
by
the
way
if
they
scaled
it
back
to
three
stories.
My
second
concern
is
that,
if,
when
they
come
back
with
a
revised
proposal,
or
if
this
does
get
approved,
this
stands
at
the
corner
of
bexley
road,
which
is
one
of
only
two
access
roads
into
the
neighborhood.
It's
a
major
cut
through
and
I'm
concerned
that
when
the
owners
will
come
back
with
a
revised
plan
or
this
gets
approved,
the
construction
will
make
passage
difficult
on
bexley.
CC
I
BB
CD
My
name
is
laurie
radwin.
I
live
at
49
augustus
and
you
should
have
tens
of
letters
in
opposition
from
roslindale
square
business
owners,
employees
and
shoppers
the
insufficient
parking
spaces
in
this
building
matter.
There
are
not
enough
parking
spaces
in
the
squares
described
in
a
recent
boston,
transportation,
department,
roslindale
square
parking
study.
CD
The
study
explains
that
the
streets
around
4160
to
64
washington
street
could
serve
as
parking
for
roslindale
square,
small
business
customers
and
along
these
lines
in
your
letters,
you'll
see
the
small
business
owners,
staff
and
customers
describe
a
lack
of
parking
as
negatively
affecting
their
ability
for
customers
to
shop
and
access
services,
and,
as
you
noted
in
essence,
if
the
proposed
project
is
approved
with
its
parking
space
violations,
condominium
orders
would
be
in
competition
with
business
customers
for
space,
and
this
is
hardly
fair.
CD
The
appellant
can
provide
more
spaces
when
the
development
is
built
and
small
business
owners
cannot
create
their
own
parking.
Thank
you
very
much.
BX
B
BV
Just
just
to
point
out
I
should
have,
I
should
have
included
this
with
my
presentation,
but
along
bexley
road
just
for
the
board's
consideration
where
there
is
currently
an
extensive,
curb
cut
to
allow
for
the
double
sort
of
garage
doors
for
access
and
egress
into
the
into
the
auto
repair
shop
that
that
is
going
to
be
substantially
replaced
by
a
curb
which
will
allow
for
an
additional
two
to
three
parking
spaces
in
that
area
for
the
residents
of
the
community.
BV
I
think,
second
of
all,
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
this
certainly
is,
I
think,
by
definition,
a
transit
oriented
development.
I
mean
it's
serviced
by
multiple
bus
lines
from
forest
hills
points
west,
and
it's
less
than
a
quarter
of
a
mile
from
the
roslindale
village
communal
rail.
Stop.
We
fully
expect
that
the
residents
of
this
building
aren't
all
going
to
own
a
vehicle
and
then
just
as
a
sort
of
caveat
this
you
know,
especially
in
response
to
this
to
the
last
caller.
BV
BV
I
have
personally
gone
to
visit
juan
at
his
building
a
dozen
times
and
have
actually
never
had
any
issues
parking
in
that
area.
There's
always
been
plenty
at
that
in
the
square
very
difficult
during
the
day,
regular
business
hours,
absolutely
I've
gone
at
all
times
a
day
out
where
one
is
towards
healy
field
and
heading
out
towards
forest
hills,
and
that
I've
never
had
an
issue
parking
around
juan's
building.
So
just
just
full,
that's
worth
madam
chair.
BV
B
So,
thank
you.
Miss
ambassador
we've
got
everybody
as
a
roslindale
resident.
I
do
feel
that
mr
mr
chavez
is
heading
in
the
right
direction.
B
However,
I
do
think
that
it's
still
it's
still
dense,
given
the
fact
that
it
is
proposed
as
three
times
the
far
that's
required
and
the
height
I
mean
the
wexley
road
is
two
and
a
half,
maybe
some
three
story,
but
mostly
two
and
a
half,
and
it's
true
that
this
proposal
will
eliminate
the
extra
wide
curb
cut,
I'm
a
frequent
visitor
to
that
part
of
the
neighborhood
and
it
it's
true.
But,
however,
for
distance
from
the
corner
that
will
not
increase,
truly
increase
the
number
of
spaces
and
oftentimes.
B
So
anyway,
given
that
mr
fitzgerald,
there,
this
is
a
conversation
with
the
board.
So
if
you
could
please
hold
it,
may
I
have
a
motion,
please
from
the
board.
B
X
C
The
violations,
article
53
section
8,
the
use-
is
forbidden.
Article
2017-5.
This
is
an
east
boston,
ipod,
article
32,
section
4.
This
is
g
card
applicability,
article
53,
section
56
off
street
packing
and
loading
article
53,
section,
52
group
structure,
restrictions,
article
53,
section,
9,
the
additional
art
areas
and
submission
article
53,
section
9.
The
four-day
ratio
is
excessive.
C
Article
53,
section
9.
The
bill
has
excessive
stories.
Article
53,
section
9,
the
building
has
excessive
fee
article
53
section
9,
the
usable
open
space
is
insufficient.
Article
53,
section
9
on
the
side
guards
insufficient
and
article
53,
section
9.
The
rare
yacht
is
insufficient
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
BG
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
attorney
jeff
trego,
with
drego
and
toscano,
with
the
business
address
of
11
beacon
street
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
and
I
also
have
eric
zacherson
from
context
design,
who's
the
architect
on
the
proposal
in
this
rendering
that
you're
looking
now
it's
the
building
proposed
to
the
very
right
of
this
block.
BG
The
proposal
is
to
raise
the
existing
commercial
structure
and
to
erect
a
new
building
with
11
residential
units
and
four
parking
spaces
in
the
rear.
This
project
will
have
an
affordability
component
of
a
two
bedroom
unit
on
site.
Our
lot
size
is
4500
square
feet.
This
particular
zoning
sub
district
is
a
3f
2000
just
to
go
over.
Since
I
see
we
are
on
the
plans,
the
layout
in
the
basement,
there
will
be
some
utility
and
a
utility
room
and
a
storage
facility
for
the
residents.
BG
The
housing
will
begin
on
the
first
floor,
which
will
have
three
units
two
studios
in
one
one
bed.
On
the
second
floor
that
will
house
another
three
units,
one
studio,
one
one
bed
and
one
two
bed
units
the
third
floor
will
host
the
three
additional
units.
One
studio
one
one
bed
and
one
two
bed,
and
then
we
have
a
recessed
fourth
floor
that
is
pulled
in
on
the
front.
Seven
foot,
two
inches,
I'm
sorry,
eight
feet
in
the
front
and
seven
foot
two
inches
in
the
rear
and
that
will
house
four.
BG
I'm
sorry,
two
units,
two
two
units,
one
with
a
front
deck
and
one
with
a
rear
deck
on
our
roof.
We
have
two
exclusive
roof
decks
just
for
units
10
and
11.
Those
will
be
accessed
through
hatch,
only
just
to
go
over
the
violations
that
were
mentioned.
This
is
a
3f
district,
although
it
does
have
mfr
all
around
it.
We
are
proposing
11
units
so
use
variance.
We
would
need
additional
watt
area
variants.
BG
Far
we're
proposing
2.3
1.0
is
what's
allowed.
Our
height
is
as
proposed
as
four
stories
at
44
feet.
6
inches.
What's
allowed
is
three
stories
and
35
feet
for
open
space.
We
have
836
square
feet,
total
300
square
feet
per
unit
is
required.
Front
yard
is
five.
We
are
modal,
so
we're
zero.
Matching
the
buildings
to
the
left
of
us,
our
rear
yard.
We're
close
at
26
feet,
seven
inches.
It
varies
slightly
22
feet,
9
to
26,
seven
and
what's
required
is
thirty
parking
is
two
per
dwelling
units.
BG
B
BG
We
are
11
units,
but
that,
and
that
includes
an
affordable
uno
unit.
Sorry,
a
two-bedroom
unit
and
a
contribution
to
the
idp
fund.
B
Okay,
so
this
is,
let's
see
that
three,
six
nine
it's
four
times
almost
four
times
the
number
of
units
that
would
be
allowed
as
of
right
on
this
one,
because
no
it
actually
for
three
thousand
two
to
two
thousand
square
feet.
No,
it's
it's
actually
almost
three
times.
How
are
the
plans?
Mr
robinson.
E
Plans
are
good,
I
think
we
fully
understand
what's
being
proposed
here
in
terms
of
its
size
and
scale.
I
mean
it
does
have
a
set
back
at
the
fourth
floor
and
the
three
story
is
more
consistent
with
the
main
street,
but
it
is
up
against
the
greenway
bike
bike
path,
so
it
doesn't
have
enough
budding
if
the
left,
however,
it
is
encroaching
in
on,
I
think,
on
the
right
hand,
side.
E
BG
Yes,
that's
correct,
and
if
you
go
up
to
the
first
picture,
mr
robinson,
the
rendering
I
don't
know
you
had
mentioned
just
because
you
had
mentioned
in
context,
if
we
go
to
the
rendering
there
was
a
four
story,
building
approved
just
two
down
from
us
by
the
board,
so
we're
in
line
exactly
with
the
height
of
that
building
across
the
street
from
us
is
the
greenway
apartments,
which
is
four
stories
and
then
behind
us
is
the
victory
gardens,
which
is
four
stories.
AB
CB
B
Right
budding
video,
sorry,
miss
bernardo.
Can
everybody
mute
themselves
so
that
this
board
can
understand?
What's
going
on
mr
spenato,
please
go
ahead.
AJ
BG
BG
We
also
because
drainage
along
the
greenway
has
been
a
major
concern
in
the
area
we
have
put
together
a
recharge
system
that
goes
above
and
beyond,
what's
even
required
from
water
and
sewer
to
help,
because
this
will
significantly
help
with
this
recharge
system
with
drainage
along
the
greenway
as
well.
AJ
B
Okay
and
then
the
roof
structure
restrictions
tell
us
about
the
roof
deck.
BG
So
we
have
two
exclusive
roof:
deck
roof
decks,
madam
chair,
one
in
the
rear,
one
in
the
front,
and
so
those
are
exclusive
to
those
top
units.
One
is
280
square
feet.
One
is
425
square
feet
and
they're
accessible
only
by
hatch.
BG
So
the
access
point,
so
one
of
the
unique
things
that
none
of
the
other
buildings
over
here
have
is.
We
have
easement
rights
in
the
back
and
if
we
go
down
to
the
very
last
page
of
this
presentation,
there
is
an
easement
plan,
it's
18
feet
wide,
and
so
it
allows
us
vehicular
access.
So
if
something
didn't
we
do
have
our
parking
access
that
way
and
in
terms
of
pickup,
you
see
that
bottom
sort
of
gray
slashed
area.
BB
B
T
Oh
yes,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
board
bob
domingo
btd,
I
was
just
wondering
if
they
could
have
a
consideration
for
mitigation
for
the
mary
ellen
welch
greenway,
because
a
lot
of
folks
are
very
concerned
that
it's
going
to
be
like
walking
down
the
hallway,
especially
when
you
consider
the
proposed
development
for
the
east
boston,
health
center
project,
and
I
just
was
wondering
about
the
size
of
the
parking
spaces.
I
can't
I
can't
make
it
out.
BG
T
B
Okay,
any
anything
else:
okay
is
anybody
here
to
speak
and
support
or
in
opposition
of
this
proposal.
U
Morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
board,
natalia
benitez,
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
service,
the
applicant
receives
support
from
the
gov
street
association,
and
many
changes
were
made
based
on
comments
from
the
community.
They
reduced
the
number
of
units
from
28
to
11
5
to
4
stories
and
top
floor
has
been
pushed
back
if
they
are
an
increased
unit
prices.
The
applicant
also
worked
diligently
with
the
greenway
to
design
a
landscape
connected
with
the
project.
U
BI
Yes,
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
janet
knott
and
I
live
at
63a
maverick
square
in
east
boston.
My
home
is
near
the
marielle
and
welsh
greenway
and
I
would
like
to
say
that
this
is
a
beautiful
space
and
a
key
element
to
the
health
and
wellness.
For
me,
my
neighbors
and
the
community.
BI
BZ
BH
Doing
my
name
is
vinnie
palermo
and
I
live
at
113
college
street
and
I
do
support
the
project
and
appreciate
the
affordability
aspect
as
well
that
they
have
going
in.
B
And
just
for
clarification
again
at
what?
What
ami
is
the
affordable
unit
supposed
to
be
at.
BG
Correct
plus
a
payment
to
the
idp
fund
as
well.
E
C
C
AK
Tom
is
it
possible
that
we
could
have
the
bpda
identifying
that
the
affordable
units
through
the
designer
process.
C
Following
your
next
case,
calling
voa
123,
7014
157
west
springfield
street,
this
is
a
renovate
and
extend
existing
building
and
change
legal
office
from
a
church
to
nine
dwelling
units.
The
violations,
article,
nine
section,
section:
zero
one:
reconstruction
extension
of
a
non-conforming
building
article
32,
section
32-4
groundwater.
This
is
in
the
g-card
article
64
section,
34,
restricted
root,
structure,
regulations,
article
64,
section
9
on
the
florida
ratio
is
excessive.
Article
64,
section,
9,
usable
open
space
is
insufficient.
C
B
Okay,
so
this
is
a
six-member,
a
six-member
board,
so
the
applicant
will
need
five
members
in
support,
and
so
you
have
two
choices:
to
go
ahead
or
to
recuse
until
or
to
defer
until
we
have
a
full
board.
B
Okay,
excellent
so
and
mr
oh
look,
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
plans.
Oh
yeah,
okay,
so
please
go
ahead.
Mr
morenzy.
AU
Madam
chair,
as
a
preliminary
matter,
there
is
a
g
card
citation.
I
don't
know
if
the
chair
wishes
to
take
g
card.
First.
B
Yes,
go
ahead.
Christian.
AD
AU
Madam
chair,
this
is
an
application
for
the
adaptive
residential
reuse
of
the
building
at
157
west
springfield
street,
which
was
for
over
30
130
years
home
to
the
ebenezer
baptist
church.
The
last
service
of
the
church
was
held
in
early
2020,
unfortunately,
as
the
cost
of
maintaining
the
aging
structure
grew
over
the
years,
and
since
now
only
about
20
percent
of
the
congregants
actually
live
in
the
neighborhood.
With
limited
parking
available
in
the
area,
a
difficult
decision
to
relocate
was
made
by
the
church
out
of
necessity.
AU
I
have
a
very
brief
presentation
on
zoning.
We
have
michael
delafaye
from
rotate
architects
who
will
actually
present
the
architectural
plans.
Great
their
deal
of
care
and
skill
have
gone
into
those
plans.
I
would
not
want
to
do
a
disservice
by
presenting
them
myself
a
priority
of
church
leadership.
B
AU
I
will
allow
michael
delete
to
proceed
and
then,
when
michael
has
concluded,
if
the
board
has
any
questions
for
him,
if
not,
I
will
then
do
a
presentation
on
zoning.
CB
Michael,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
George
michael
delafaye,
brody,
architects,
535
albany
street
boston.
I'm
joined
here
with
reverend
thompson
from
the
ebenezer
baptist
church
in
case
any
of
the
board.
Members
have
questions
for
him.
We
are
proposing
nine
units
and
they
are
as
follows.
CB
Two
one
bedroom
flats
at
650
in
one
of
those
units
is
a
voluntary
idp
unit.
We
have
one
one
bedroom
flat
at
800.
We
have
two
two
bedroom
flats
at
1500
and
we
have
three
three
bedroom
duplexes
at
1800
square
feet
and
then
there's
one
three
bedroom
triplex
at
2500.
CB
I
will
also
mention
there's
a
little
bit
of
inefficiency
there
due
to
staircases
in
the
triplex
we're
proposing
nine
parking
spaces
one
for
each
unit
and
I'll.
Take
you
through
that
in
just
a
moment.
Madame
ambassador,
can
you
go
to
page
three?
Please,
which
is
where
we
are
you'll,
see
there
on
the
right
hand,
side
up
one
there
you
go
you'll,
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
you'll,
see
the
nine
parking
spaces
accessed
through
a
small
ramp
on
the
right-hand
side
and
then
on
the
left-hand
plan.
CB
CB
You'll
see
three
three
stoops,
so
our
plan
is
to
keep
those
three
stoops
completely
intact,
and
this
is
for
landmark
reasons.
We
feel
that
it's
important
to
maintain
the
validity
of
the
existing
structure
so
on
that
plan,
you'll
also
see
that
there
is
a
two
bedroom
unit
on
the
lower
half
of
the
plan
that
has
access
through
one
of
what
through
a
scoop,
and
it
also
has
handicap
access
via
a
centralized
corridor.
CB
In
the
upper
right
hand.
Excuse
me
upper
left-hand
corner
northwest.
CB
There
is
the
another
access
to
a
unit,
and
this
is
the
triplex,
so
this
will
get
bring
that
person
up
into
up
into
their
unit
in
the
center
stoop
is
being
utilized
as
a
second
entrance
to
the
building,
so
any
of
the
occupants
within
the
building
can
come
and
go
through
that
stair
in
the
main
stew.
CB
Here
these
two
plans
illustrate
the
three
duplex
units
and
then
the
upper
floor
of
the
triplex,
so
the
triplex
is
the
in
the
northwest
corner
and
that
does
have
access
to
the
street.
You'll
see
that
all
four
of
the
units
here
are
have
bedroom
levels
that
is
below
the
brick
within
the
existing
church
and
then
up
above.
The
sort
of
eve
line
is
what
we're
calling
the
public
floor.
So
this
is
the
living
space
and
we've
done
this
to
bring
light
and
air
into
those
particular
aspects
of
the
unit.
CB
CB
And
then
here
you're,
seeing
the
final
three
units
on
the
right
plan,
right
hand,
side,
plan,
you're,
seeing
a
one
bedroom
plus
and
then
another
one
bedroom
and
then
on
the
north
side
of
the
plan
is
a
two
bedroom
and
these
all
have
outdoor
space
as
well,
so
terraces
and
some
views
within
these
these
dormers
madame
ambassador.
Can
you
take
us
to
page
eight?
Please.
B
So
let
me
just
ask
a
quick
question:
is
everything
being
done
within
the
envelope
of
the
building
or
is
there
any
additions
proposed
or
exterior
modifications.
CB
The
the
brick
shell
of
the
structure
will
remain
and
the
roof
will
be
modified
with
a
dormer-like
addition
on
both
sides.
CB
CB
And
if
you
wouldn't
mind
going
to
page
11
the
one
before
this,
this
is
another
aspect
of
the
design
that
we
wanted
to
touch
on.
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
are
completely
revitalizing
the
existing
brick
structure,
we're
going
to
be
repainting
and
we're
going
to
be
restoring
the
front
three
doors.
These
will
be
turned
into
glass
so
that
the
occupants
can
actually
have
visibility
to
the
outside
and
gain
access
to
their
units
off
of
the
street.
CB
The
stoops
will
be
completely
restored
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
front,
we've
had
preliminary
discussions
with
the
boston
landmarks,
commission
and
they've
really
suggested
that
we
take
note
of
the
existing
or
the
types
of
gardens
that
are
within
the
south
end.
So
that
is
what
you
see
there
in
the
front
and
actually,
madam
ambassador,
if
you
can
go
to
page
nine.
AF
CB
And
then
this
is
an
example
of
that
south
end
garden.
That
is
traditional
in
the
area,
so
our
expectation
is
to
revitalize
the
gardens
in
front
of
the
church
and
bring
them
up
to
the
standards
of
the
south
end
along
with
restoring
the
stoops
and
then,
furthermore,
we
feel
that
it's
important
to
in
in
some
way
memorialize
the
ebenezer
baptist
church
and
the
significant
history.
That's
happened
here,
and
these
are
just
some
early
ideas
of
what.
B
J
The
plans
are
very
nice.
They
have
done
a
very
nice
design,
combination
of
keeping
the
traditional
elements
and
and
and
adding
new
elements.
I
I
have
no
issues
whatsoever
with
the
architectural
design.
The.
AC
B
Mr
alex
sorry
to
cut
you
off,
but
we
are
going
to
be
losing
a
board
member
momentarily,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
since
we've
gone
through
this
whole
process,
we
are
a
board.
Member
short,
that
we
have
enough
time
to.
Okay.
X
Oh
yes,
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
board
kim
crucio
from
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
services,
the
mayor's
office
like
to
defer
to
the
board
on
this
matter.
The
applicant
has
held
numerous
meetings
on
and
off
site,
as
well
as
an
abutters
meeting
hosted
by
our
office
in
october
of
2021
and
they've
continued
to
communicate
with
the
community.
Since
then,
we've
received
seven
letters
of
support,
including
one
from
the
hurley
box,
neighborhood
association
and
one
letter
of
opposition
from
chester's
four
neighbors.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
can
we
have
militia
and
carol
blair?
Can
you
guys
speak?
I
I'm
I'm
entirely
in
a
quandary,
because
I
do
want
to
give
a
do
good
due
process,
but
okay,
so,
let's
see
let's,
let's
just
please
everybody
give
us
new
information.
R
Yes,
so
this
is
carol
blair
222,
north
hampton
street
president
of
chester
square
neighbors,
I'm
here
to
report
that
many
meetings
with
the
developer
team.
The
three
issues
are
on
that
there
are
three
issues
unresolved.
First,
we
don't
need
more
luxury
housing.
Only
a
block
away
harry
tubman
house
site
has
is
providing
66
units
with
needed
parking,
but
workforce
housing
is
in
short
supply
and
would
be
welcome.
Second,
this
building
has
always
been
a
meeting
place.
We've
lost
too
many
churches
and
spaces
together,
including
tubman
house.
R
The
new
ebenezer
maybe
could
bring
people
together,
perhaps
by
hosting
historical,
exhibit
a
community
room,
child
care
or
flexible
space
for
the
hurley's
bilingual
k28
programs.
The
ebenezer
has
always
been
a
connector.
The
proposed
design
is
a
fortress
here
where
the
south
end
and
roxbury
meet
on
the
margin
mass
and
cast.
We
need
neighborly
interactions
if
the
ebeneezer
is
to
be
residential.
We
need
street
side
comings
and
goings
windows
where
people
will
look
out
and
engaging
open
space.
R
I
also
want
to
speak
as
chair
for
ruby
coleman,
a
long-time
ebenezer
church
member
who
lives
next
door.
She
was
prepared
to
testify
in
december
and
february
when
the
developer
deferred,
but
cannot
do
so
today,
night.
Before
last,
she
was
with
her
brother
when
he
passed
ebenezer
church
baptized,
miss
ruby's
children.
They
were
there
on
sundays
and
came
from
the
hurley
after
school.
Miss
ruby,
told
us
the
people
who
live
there.
They
don't
want
to
see
us.
They
have
their
entrance
way
around
the
other
side
as
soon
as
they
end
there.
CE
If
I
may
speak,
my
name
is
melitza.
I
am
one
of
the
parents
at
the
harley
school.
We
have
great
concerns
about
the
lack
of
community
space
as
well.
We
also
have
great
concerns
about
the
construction
that
will
take
probably
a
long
time
and,
as
you
saw
in
that
last
photo
on
slide
12.
Our
school
is
right
next
door.
The
field
is
right.
There,
the
film
took
a
long
time
to
get
renovated
and
now
is
in
danger
of
getting
dust
and
the
children
as
well.
CF
AD
CF
Yes,
hi,
my
name
is
brian
gokey,
I'm
co-president
of
the
hurley
blocks.
Neighborhood
association,
the
ebenezer
baptist
church,
reverend
thompson
have
been
a
fixture
in
our
neighborhood
for
more
than
a
century.
They've
been
wonderful,
neighbors
sam,
so
please
get
to
tell
us:
okay,
okay,
as
far
as
the
the
church
leadership
enthusiastically
supports
this
proposal,
and
so
do
I,
and
so
do
that.
I
I
submitted
a
letter
with
12
names
of
of
neighbors
in
support
of
this
proposal.
CF
It's
a
diverse
list
of
names
on
from
west
springfield
street
from
tremont
street
worcester
street
and
trauma
avenue,
and
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
proposal
and
the
church
leadership
supports
it,
and
so
do
we
thank.
CF
I
CG
Hi,
my
name
is
naomi
schlossberg,
my
husband
and
I
live
at
88
worcester
street
and
our
backyard
fronts,
the
alley
shared
by
the
church
at
157
west
springfield.
We
would
like
to
voice
our
full
support
of
the
proposed
redevelopment,
especially
given
the
understanding
that
the
congregation
and
the
church
want
to
relocate
and
a
key
part
of
their
relocation
is
selling
this
building
at
157
west
springfield.
CG
B
B
You
know
what
miss
ambassador.
We
just
need
to
close
all
comments.
Can
I,
mr
counselor
counselor,
can
you
have
any
response
to
any
of
the
comments
that
were
made.
AU
Ma'am
cheer
george
morancy
very
quickly.
I
realized
time
was
not
an
ally
to
us
here.
Mr
rowlett's
comments
initially
about
a
nine
unit
project
again
want
to
reiterate:
there
is
an
idp
unit.
It
is
a
it
is
a
670
square
foot
one-bedroom
unit,
that's
been
identified
by
the
bbda
as
unit
two
in
the
project
in
terms
of
violations.
We
have
an
f
of
two
points.
AU
No,
no,
no,
there
are
no.
There
are
three
one
bedrooms,
they're
all
essentially
the
same.
It's
one
of
the
three
one
bedrooms
and
it
is
the
one
on
the
lower
floor
which
is
accessible
as
to
the
restricted
roof
structure
violations,
not
a
height
violation,
has
to
do
with
changing
the
profile
of
the
roof.
B
Hold
on
mr
morenzie,
ms
ambassador,
can
everybody
be
muted?
May
I
have
the
board
have
a
discussion
and
then
we
can
move
to
a
motion.
AU
And
you
want
to
point
out:
there's
no
usable
open
space
violation.
I
think
that's
also
important.
B
Okay,
I
miss
francie.
We're
gonna
have
to
defer
this.
If,
if
everybody
doesn't
keep
quiet,
okay,
so
may
I
have
any
conversation
any
proposed
motion
so.
D
In
light
of
the
fact
that
it's
nine,
but
with
an
idp,
which
I
think
is
key,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
a
ppda
design
review.
F
Mr
ridge,
joe,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
have
it
because
it
was
oh,
it's
in
the
landmarks
yeah,
sorry
so.
J
Yeah
I
based
on
that
same
comment.
I
will
second
that
motion
so.
AJ
B
AD
C
Calling
your
lost
case
calling
voa
one
two:
zero:
two,
five,
two,
nine
fifty
five
bolton
avenue.
This
is
a
renovation
of
existing
two
family
into
a
four
family.
One
car
garage
along
with
the
lost
space
above,
which
will
be
adjacent
unit,
the
existing
lower
unit,
one
duplex-
will
be
converted
into
two
units.
The
violation
article
65
section
8
dwelling
unit
located
in
the
basement
is
the
bid
article
65
section
8
full
dwelling
unit
used
is
in
the
zoning.
Sub-District
is
forbidden,
article
65,
section
9,
the
48
ratio
is
excessive
name
and
address
for
the
record.
C
CH
My
name
is
timothy,
I'm
the
architect
for
the
project,
I'm
representing
kathleen
mcpherson
and
gabrielle
jenkins
and
kathleen's
husband
matthew.
So
this
has
been
through
the
board
before
we've
had
a
few
deferrals,
we've
had
to
go
back
to
isd
and
redesign
the
project
so
coming
through
now
what
exists
there
now?
Are
it's
a
two
unit
building
it's
a
duplex
over
a
duplex
they're.
The
bottom
duplex
currently
has
three
bedrooms
two
around
on
the
they're
in
the
basement:
one's
upstairs
and
then
the
upper
unit.
It's
just
it's
just
four
bedrooms
now
so.
B
Mr,
let's,
what
is
the
zoning
district.
B
9
600
square
feet
and
you're
still
proposing
for
families.
Yes,
and
you
still
provide
proposing
the
garage
with
loft
space.
CH
CH
Yeah
the
existing
basement
unit,
it's
a
full
walkout
at
the
back
on
the
south
side.
We're
in
we're
increasing
the
window
areas
so
light
and
air
requirements
will
be
doubled.
Sills
are
at
30
inches.
One
of
the
bedrooms
downstairs
will
be
eliminated
and
turned
into
a
living
room
and
we'll
put
a
set
of
french
doors
in
and
make
a
window
on
the
on
the
west
side.
Bigger
so,
and
that
unit
will
be
677
square
feet
over
the
610.
The
bpda
likes
to
see.
CH
CH
Well,
what's
going
on
here,
these
are
owner
occupiers,
so
the
three
bedroom
unit
is
hard
to
rent
and
I
looked
at
it.
It's
it's
just
a
perfect
basement.
I
know
you
don't
like
basement
apartments,
but
it
fully
exposes
on
the
back
side.
We've
got
plenty
of
southwest
light.
We've
got
good
sailing
height
at
7,
11.
CH
it
just
it's
just
a
basement,
because
the
way
it
sits
in
the
hill,
the
front
edge
of
it
is
buried.
So
you
know
we
look
at
it.
It
just
makes
more
sense,
it's
easier
than
for
the
rent,
the
people
on
the
unit,
one
and
unit
two
currently
going
to
work
together
on
this,
and
this
is
the
rest
of
their
lives.
You
know
this
is
the
rest
of
the
life
house,
so
it
makes
them
makes
it
possible
to
do
the
rest
of
the
renovations
by
adding
these
two.
CH
You
know
basically
adding
the
two
units,
one
unit
being
the
addition
on
the
left
and
the
other
one
being
converting
the
existing
basement
duplex
into
two
separate,
viable
units.
You
know
one
at
677
square
feet
with
a
full
southern
walkout
exposed
and
then
the
middle.
You
know
the
ground
floor
entry,
you
know
the
first
floor.
Entry
will
be.
You
know
a
nice
870
square
foot
two-bedroom
unit.
It
just
works
better
for,
for
my
clients,.
CH
The
addition
is
off
the
left
side.
It's
28
feet
long
by
19,
feet,
4
inches
wide,
it's
two
stories
high
from
the
front,
and
if
you
look
at
the
elevations
you
know
you
look
at
the
elevations.
I've
been
very
careful
about
maintaining
that
victorian
style
of
the
building
and
having
the
addition
subservient
to
the
main
house,
and
that
would
be,
for
you
know,
for
the
person
who's
in
unit
two
now
who's
on
gabe.
That
would
be
his
unit
and
that's
it.
You
know.
CH
CH
B
CH
E
Plans
are
good,
I
I
I
can't
disagree,
you
know
the
site
does
fall
off.
The
lower
level
unit
is
is
decent.
It's
not.
I
don't
think
it's
even
a
stretch.
I
think
it
does
seem
to
sort
of
provide
the
space
I
you
know
I
have
a
little
bit
of
the
heartache
of
going
from
two
to
four,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
the
overall
proposal.
It's
it's
it's
scaled
pretty
nicely.
I
don't
think
it's
encroaching
too
closely.
E
J
Yeah,
just
on
the
basement
floor
plan
are
the
bedrooms
situated
towards
the
rear
walkout
or
where?
How
are
they
yeah.
CH
CH
BO
Good
afternoon
madam
chair
members
of
the
board
denise
desantos
from
the
mayor's
office
of
neighborhood
service,
I
would
like
to
go
on
record
and
state
that
the
applicant
has
met
with
thea
butters,
twice
in
the
association
a
few
different
times
to
present
this,
and
they
have
the
abutters
and
neighborhood
association
support.
At
this
time,
we
would
like
to
defer
to
the
board.
Thank
you.
BP
Madam
chair,
madam
chair
jill,
mcdecker,
yeah
hi,
joe
mcgregor
and
city
council,
frank
baker's
office,
we're
actually
in
opposition
to
this
project
due
to
the
fact
that
many
of
the
abutters
have
contacted
us
and
they
think
the
project
is
too
dense.
B
They
have
okay,
I'm
wondering
if
the
the,
because
I
haven't
seen
very
many
comments
to
us
from
the
abutters
on
this
project.
Okay
got
okay,
anybody
else.
B
I
have,
may
I
have
a
motion
please.