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This is a recording of the Boston Zoning Board of Appeal Subcommittee Hearing held on October 13, 2022. It is in two parts because technical issues interrupted the recording. However, the full substantive hearing is available across parts 1 and 2. The Zoning Board will hold a vote on whether to approve or reject the subcommittee recommendations at its next full-Board hearing.
Watch Part 2 of this meeting: https://youtu.be/yVBS82UP8GY
A
Okay,
this
good
evening,
my
name
is
Mark
Ehrlich,
the
city
of
Boston
zoning
Board
of
appeal
subcommittee.
Hearing
for
October
13th
is
now
in
session.
This
hearing
is
being
conducted
in
accordance
with
the
applicable
provisions
of
the
open
meeting
law,
including
the
updated
Provisions
enacted
by
the
legislature.
Regarding
virtual
hearings,
the
new
law
allows
the
board
to
continue
its
practice
of
holding
virtual
hearings
through
March
2023..
A
A
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information
for
connecting
to
this
hearing
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on
today's
hearing
agenda,
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Public
Notices
page
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A
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A
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A
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appropriate
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A
A
To
see
you
both
and
Mr
Fortson
will
now
begin
with
a
call
of
the
list.
C
C
D
C
E
My
name
is
Derek
rubenoff
from
Derek
Ruben
off
architect
at
82
Spring
Street
from
West
Roxbury
I'm
here
with
an
Outback
knock.
The
golf
from
our
office
as
well.
The
same
address
and
I
believe
owner
Tyler
cook.
Sorry
Tyler
Winder
is
is
on
the
on
the
on
the
zoom
as
well.
Here.
A
All
right,
Mr
rubinoff.
Can
you
tell
us
what
you're
proposing.
E
Yeah,
it's
pretty
simple,
we're
just
renovating
a
an
existing
two-family.
It's
part
of
a
strip
of
three
row
houses.
It's
at
the
end
and
all
all
these
row
houses
have
existing
Dormers.
E
E
If
you
look
at
these
photos,
you'll
see
especially
on
the
last
page,
that
the
house
next
door
already
has
infilled
the
space
between
its
two
Corner
Dormers
into
one
long
Dormer,
and
what
we're
doing
is
proposing
much
the
same
thing
so
we're
looking
at
16
cook
is
our
property
and
then
to
the
left,
the
top
left
foot
of
that
you're.
Looking
there,
you
can
see
that
that
14
cook
already
has
stretched
its
Dormer,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
our
top
right
image
there,
that's
what
we're
proposing.
E
So
what
we're
trying
to
propose
architecturally
is
very
much
in
context
with
the
the
nature
of
Charlestown
architecture.
I
lived
in
Charlestown
for
six
years,
and
you
know
keeping
the
language
of
traditional
Clapper
and
trim
foreign
so
on
the
rear.
We're
proposing
much
the
same
at
the
bottom
right
hand
corner
you
can
see
in
the
middle
and
in
the
left
of
the
bottom.
E
You
can
see
the
the
neighborhood
14
has
a
dormer
back
there
as
well,
and
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
add
the
shed
roof
Dormer,
as
you
can
see
in
the
bottom
right
across
the
back
of
our
space
and
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
make
the
existing
two
third
floor.
Bedrooms
come
to
code
in
terms
of
adding
or
providing
enough
natural
light
for
the
state
sanitary
code
and
making
sure
we
have
sufficient
emergency
escape
and
rescue
openings
for
those
existing
venues.
A
So
Mr
rubinoff,
the
the
it
is
currently
listed
as
a
two
family.
That
is
how
it's
registered.
E
Yeah,
the
the
assessor
show
shows,
are
coming
back
many
years
as
a
two
family.
A
So
why
is
there
a
need
to
confirm
occupancy
as
a
two
family
dwelling.
E
I'm
not
entirely
sure
I'm,
not
sure
if
ISD
did
not
have
that
entirely
in
their
record
or
not.
Sometimes
the
assessor
seems
to
have
different
records
than
ISD.
Okay,.
A
And
as
far
as
the
additions,
so
two
questions
with
respect
to
the
height
the
expanded
Dharma
is
at
the
same
height
as
the
existing
Dormer
and
number
two
is
at
the
same
height
as
the
neighboring.
A
budding
Dormer.
E
I
believe
so,
yes,
the
answer
is
yes.
Okay,.
A
So
there's
so
there's
no
change,
no
change
in
the
peak
of
the
building
and
it
is
consistent
with
with
the
budding
building
yeah.
A
Miss
Barraza:
how?
How
are
the
drawings.
B
No
I
just
noticed
that
in
the
frontal
elevations
you
remove
the
shutters
and
you
are
including
a
side
light
at
a
dormer
at
the
top.
Is
that
correct.
E
We
have
three
windows
that
are
proposed
in
the
Dormer
on
each
side
and
We've
included
shutters
in
the
drawing
on
the
top
right
hand
corner
for
the
third
floor.
We
did
take
the
mouse
below
that's
something
we
could
work
out
further
in
in
bpda
design
review,
if
you,
if
the
board
desires,
okay,.
A
Okay
is
there,
anyone
here
is
to
speak
in
favor
or
in
opposition
to
this
proposal.
Yes,.
F
Mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
Connor
Newman
with
the
mayor's
office
neighborhood
services.
At
this
time
the
mayor's
office
like
to
defer
to
the
Judgment
of
the
board
some
background
information
in
the
community
process.
We
have
had
some
turnover
with
personnel
with
understanding
about
everything
was
held
in
August.
Since
then,
we've
had
one
resident
reach
out
to
vocalize
their
opposition
to
the
project.
There
was
some
concerns
with
some
work
that
was
being
done
by
a
Contractor
on
the
area
with
possibly
some
damage
to
a
house
was
alleged.
F
This
is
about
to
Extended
information
that
we
have
at
this
time.
With
that
we
defer
to
the
board.
Thank
you
so.
A
F
I
think
it's
both
I
think
there
were
some
concerns.
They
weren't,
they
didn't
feel
it
was
always
historically
a
two
family,
although
I
did
check
the
assessing
records
I
believe
it
was
in
mid-2000s
that
it
was
switched
over.
It
was
classified
as
a
two
family.
According
to
the
City
Records,
there.
C
Okay,
thank
you
Mr,
chair
secretary.
Here
we
do
have
one
letter
of
opposition
and
it's
from
14..
It's
from
what.
A
14
next
door:
okay,
and
what's
what's
the
opposition
based
on
they
were.
G
Yes,
Paul
hauling,
Two,
Chief,
Street,
Charlestown
Mass,
so
Mr
Ehrlich.
The
reason
why
it's
being
asked
about
it's
a
single
family:
it
only
has
one.
It
only
has
one
one:
you
know
electrical
out.
You
know
the
electrical
outside
I've
been
in
that
house
a
hundred
times.
Okay,
it's
a
one
family
in
2003
Pat
uses
his
daughter
had
a
baby,
so
no
they
put
it.
They
put
an
extra
Kitchen
in
I
can
put
five
kitchens
in
this.
G
Just
know
that
right
and
I,
but
but
when
you
go
to
sell
it,
the
problem
is:
is
this?
Is
the
second
person
that's
bought
this
house
I'm
very
disappointed
by
the
way
on
the
the
mayor's
office
just
telling
us
that
they're
gonna
go
with
you
guys,
I
can't
believe
that
after
I
had
talked
to
them
about
this,
but
that's
okay,
we'll
deal
with
that
at
a
different
time:
60
16,
Cook
Street.
G
A
G
I
A
Right
quickly,
Mr
rubinoff.
E
Yeah
I'll
just
point
out
that
the
the
zone
is
for
a
three
family,
Zone
the
sub-district,
and
what
we're
proposing
here
is
the
two
families,
so
there's
no
violation
for
use
and
in
terms
of
the
building
code
and
sprinklers,
we're
not
required
to
put
in
sprinklers
for
the
building
code.
We
have
two
means
of
egress
for
both
units.
A
C
A
Second,
that
motion
Mr
Fortune,
yes,
Ms
Barraza,
yes,.
D
C
You
calling
the
next
case
calling
VOA
134-960-6417
to
423c
West
Broadway,
this
Suite
406,
the
change
of
office
to
professional
office
at
petition,
doors
sinks
and
cabinets,
the
violations,
article
68,
section,
7,
use
and
regulations.
The
professional
office
above
ground
floor
is
forbidden
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.
K
Good
evening,
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
Doug
stefanov
architect
at
a
professional
address
in
423
West
Broadway
Suite
404,
my
neighbor,
a
future
potential
neighbor
Suite
406
comes
before
you
tonight
to
ask
your
relief
to
place
a
professional
office
in
an
upper
floor
on
this
building
on
Broadway
it's
a
kind
of
a
mixed-use
building.
We
have
more
office,
uses
Health
Beauty,
and
in
this
case
this
is
a
Botox
facility
which
comes
underneath
professional
office.
Designation
which
would,
under
our
zoning
code,
be
considered
forbidden
in
this
Upper
Floor.
K
Actually,
even
a
lower
professional
office
would
be
allowed
basement
first
floor,
only
it's
a
four-story
building,
so
that
is
the
only
reason
we
come
before.
You.
A
Okay,
what
it
was
it
has
been
functioning
as
as
an
office,
but
not
a
professional
office.
What
has
been.
L
A
It
seems
pretty
straightforward,
Miss
Barraza,
how
are
the
drawings
drawings.
A
Okay,
is
there
anyone
here
to
testify
either
for
against
the
proposal.
L
Good
evening,
Mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
I'm
Anna
white,
with
the
mayor's
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
ons,
required
this
proponent
to
fly
our
300
feet
around
this
property
notifying
residents
in
a
Butters
about
this
change
of
use.
We
receive
no
questions
or
comments
about
this
proposal
at
this
time,
we'd
like
to
defer
judgment
to
the
board.
Thank
you.
A
Just
one
question
for
the
for
Mr
stefanov,
so
this
is
this-
is
on
the
fourth
floor
of
a
multi-story
building.
How
how
big
is
the
building.
K
A
C
C
M
Good
evening
Mr
chair
members
of
the
board
attorney
John
D
Barry
law
office
at
1156,
Dorchester
Ave
in
Boston,
Massachusetts
02125
with
me
on
this
proposal
is
architect.
Nicholas
Landry
of
design
resource
team
within
Office
Professional
address
of
546
East
Broadway
Street,
what's
being
presented
tonight,
is
there's
actually
companion
projects
both
at
594
and
596..
M
I
can
present
each
individually
or
both
of
them
together.
Whichever.
C
C
C
A
Do
them,
as
a
companion
cases,
all.
N
C
Well,
the
record
calling
DOA
one
three:
three:
seven:
six:
six:
five:
five
Ninety
Six
East
Seventh
Street.
This
is
also
the
confirmed.
Market
is
a
single
family.
Dwelling
change
of
occurs
from
a
single
family
to
a
two
family
dwelling
work
to
include
construct.
A
rare
Edition
extend
living
space
to
the
basement
renovation
of
the
building,
the
violations,
article
68
section
33,
Osprey
parkings,
insufficient
article
68,
Section
8,
the
additional
lot
areas
insufficient
and
article
68,
section
8.4
dimensional
regulations,
extension
to
the
rail
yard,.
M
Again
here
in
members
of
the
board,
Attorney
John
Barry
law
office
at
1156,
Dorchester,
Ave,
Boston,
Mass,
02125
and
with
me
on
this
proposal
as
well,
is
architect.
Nicholas
Landry
of
design
resource
team
at
546,
East,
Broadway,
0.2127.,
what's
being
proposed
here
at
both
sites,
is
a
addition
in
the
rare,
as
well
as
finishing
off
the
basement,
which
would
result
in
two
bi-level
units
at
each
address,
changing
them
from
a
single-family
occupancy
to
a
two-family
occupancy.
Our
clients
on
this
project
is
the
McDonough
family.
They,
it
is
a
owner
occupied.
M
Essentially
what's
being
proposed
here
is
the
two
bi-level
units.
The
first
unit,
one
will
be
the
first
floor
and
the
basement
with
the
addition
that's
being
proposed.
It
would
be
a
resulting
2600
square
foot,
four
bedroom
four
bath
unit
for
unit
number
one,
and
it
would
be
a
2662
square
foot,
four
bedroom
three
and
a
half
bath
for
unit
two,
which
would
be
on
the
second
and
third
floor.
M
M
In
addition,
596
received
the
additional
lot
area,
insufficient
violation.
There
is
a
plan
right
now
for
the
current
developers
to
add
parking
in
the
rear.
We
did
not
put
that
in
the
presentation
because
it
still
does
not
meet
the
requirement
of
four
spots
for
each
of
the
proposed
units.
M
I
would
just
like
to
highlight
that
for
the
board,
though,
that
there
is
a
plan
and
easements
that
the
owners
do
have
in
order
to
provide
parking
by
accessing
the
site
from
the
rear,
but
it
is
not
all
recorded
and
I
think
that
should
be
addressed
during
the
BPA
process
if
this
board
was
to
approve
these
presentations
with
me
on
this
project
is
architect:
Nicholas
Landry.
If
the
board
would
like
to
have
a
full
presentation
of
the
drawings.
A
No
just
to
answer
some
questions,
the
parking
we
can
only
deal
with
what
the
park
what's
presented
to
us.
So
if
you
have
no
parking,
you
have
no
parking.
Whatever
you
do
in
the
future
is
is
another
matter.
A
So
let's
talk
about
the
the
extending
the
living
space
into
the
basement,
a
couple
of
questions.
This
is
actually
a
good
elevation.
What
is
the
Florida
ceiling
height
in
the
basement?
What
is
the
floor
to
grade
height
in
the
basement?
How
much
of
this
basement
unit
will
be
underground
and
what
is
based
on
the
plans?
What
is
the
use
of
of
the
space
in
the
basement?
The.
I
Space
in
the
basement
is
is
going
to
be
a
common
is,
is
living
space.
The
the
basement
is,
is
roughly
four
feet
below
grade,
so
it's
about
50
and
then
the
you
can
see.
There's
a
in
the
rear.
We've
got
a
large
patio
area
to
bring
a
lot
of
light
in
the
back
of
the
building,
so
there
will
be
bedrooms
down
there.
I
A
Okay,
that's
yeah.
A
A
A
Sorry
go
ahead.
No
no
Miss
barazi
on
both
units.
A
A
Six
would
be
code,
but
it's
still
that's
still
four
feet:
it's
not
exactly
50
50
with
seven
six,
but
it's
more
like
55.45
without
having
a
calculator
in
front
of
me.
There's
also.
The
bpda
commented
Miss
Barraza
that
they're
concerned
about
the
lack
of
Windows
on
the
west
elevation.
B
I
I
A
One
okay,
so
hang
on,
hang
on
hang
on
rather
than
design
on
the
Fly,
which
I
don't
like
doing.
Let
me,
let's,
let's
that's
Miss
Baraza,
to
weigh
in
on
the
overall
scheme.
B
Yeah,
so
you
know,
as
you
know,
we
know
it
in
the
past.
The
board
traditionally
has
not
really
granted
variants
to
bedroom
units.
That
is
completely
submerged.
That
being
said,
it
does
have
two
means
of
egress
and
you're
not
really
required
to
meet
within
the
44-inch
sill
height.
So
it's
fine,
it's
more.
If
we're,
okay
with
having
bedroom
units
Underground.
A
Right
and
and
what
do
you
think
about
the
the
issue
of
the
windows.
B
I
think
I
mean
this
is
really
just
allowing
light
and
air
from
both
ends
of
the
building
it's
a
very
long
building.
So
there
is
a
concern
with
lack
of
light
and
air.
You
know
in
the
middle
of
the
unit,
I,
don't
necessarily
see
that
the
elevations
are
on
the
property
line
just
from
the
site
plan.
It
does
look
like
you're,
you
know
probably
five
feet
from
the
property
line.
The
elevations,
just
it's
very
minimum
in
terms
of
the
windows
I
think
I
found,
maybe
one
or
two.
A
We
can
definitely
okay,
okay.
Well,
this
is
the
conversation.
The
board
is
having
hang
on
all
right,
any
any
other
commentary,
Ms
Barraza.
A
Right
is
there
anyone
here
to
testify,
either
for
or
against
the
proposal.
L
Good
evening
Mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
I'm
Anna
white,
with
the
mayor's
office
of
Neighborhood
Services
Owen
else,
have
held
in
a
Butters
meeting
for
594
or
596
East
7th
Street
on
August
3rd,
the
proponent
list
into
all
questions
and
comments
from
attendees.
There
were
concerns
raised
about
parking.
We've
received
letters
of
support
and
letters
in
opposition
about
this
proposal.
The
Gate
of
Heaven
neighborhood
association
is
in
support
of
the
proposed
development
at
this
time,
we'd
like
to
defer
judgment
to
the
board.
Thank
you.
A
C
You
Mr
secretary,
we
have
those
Mr
secretary,
I
messed
up
Mr,
chair
Mr
secretary.
C
We
have
those
letters
at
the
mayor's
office
is
spoke
of.
Okay.
A
Raised
hands
all
right,
well:
I'm,
I,
I'm,
quite
concerned
about
the
bedroom
units
in
the
basement.
I
I
think
there
will
be
more
than
50
percent
on
the
ground
and
I.
Don't
think
that's
a
consistent
with
the
policies
of
this
board
and
over
the
many
years,
but
I
would
entertain
a
motion
at
this
point.
N
Understanding
your
concern
with
the
the
basement
units,
the
council
have
to
go
on
record
and
support.
A
Whoa
whoa
whoa
whoa
whoa
we're
taking
it
either
of
someone
giving
public
testimony
at
this
point
or
someone
on
the
board
making
a
motion.
B
Would
you
like
a
motion
Mr
chair,
yeah,
okay,
I,
like
to
put
forward
a
motion
of
approval
with
bpda
design
review,
paying
special
attention
to
the
front
and
side
elevation.
A
I'll
second,
that
motion
all
right
if
you're
interested
in
anything
about
bedrooms
in
the
basement.
B
Yeah
I
I
think
it's
not
really
great
living
conditions,
but
the
you
know
it
does
have
two
means
of
egress
I.
You
know
I
think
there
is
sufficient
access
to
the
exterior
so
I'm.
Okay,
in
this
case.
A
A
A
You
made
a
motion:
Mr
Fortune
I
did
second
it
yes
and
so
I'm
called
doing
a
roll
call.
Yes,
Miss
Baraza,
yes
and
I
will
vote
against
that.
So
the
motion
does
not
pass
so
I
will
entertain.
Another
motion.
C
D
H
C
D
H
J
My
proposal
is
just
to
get
one
parking
spot
in
my
backyard.
I've
been
going
through
this
process,
trying
to
get
a
permit
since
2019
and
we've
done
the
Community
meetings.
There
was
no
no
objections.
All
the
neighborhood
houses
in
this
area
has
driveways
and
a
parking
spot,
so
I
want
to
be
able
to
get
off
parking
in
the
street
and
be
able
to
park
into
my
backyard.
So
it's
just
a
curb
cut,
got.
A
J
What
I
can
say
is
from
Brook
F
to
past,
where
my
house
is
it's
about
90
feet,
maybe
a
little
longer
and
in
that
section
there's
no
parking,
because
it's
it's
a
one-way
going
down
after
90
feet,
then
the
Street
opens
up
and
it's
okay,
but.
C
Avenue
to
the
rear
view
property
Mr
chair
could
I
just
clarify
Mr
Mr
Tamiko
has
spoke
on
this.
It
might
clarify.
Maybe
some
of
your
questions.
Okay,
go
ahead!
All
right!
Thank
you
and
regards
to
25
Brooks
Avenue.
This
is
Bob
D'amico
BTD,
although
the
curb
cut
would
be
on
Moreland
Street
and
the
rear
of
the
property.
There
is
not
ample
room
for
safe
access
and
egress
onto
Moreland
Street.
The
width
of
maulin
at
the
point
where
the
curb
cut
is
proposed
is
only
around
12
feet
in
width.
C
A
Okay,
so
so,
according
to
Mr
D'amico,
there's
no
parking
on
that
side
of
Moreland
Street.
That's
correct,
okay,
which
actually
seems
to
me
an
argument
for
a
curb
cut
in
parking
to
get
because
I
mean
if
we're
just
replacing
one
off
Street
one
on
street
parking
spot
with
one
off
Street.
Then
it's
a
no
net
gain,
but
here
we're
potentially
getting
a
a
gain
of
one
parking
spot
at
one
parking
spot.
So,
okay,
Ms
Barraza,
any
comments
on
the
on
the
drawings.
B
Mr
chair
looking
at
the
Google,
the
only
thing
that's
kind
of
missing
from
this
survey
is
a
rear
step.
Giving
access
to
the
second
floor
is
that
just
missing
here,
but
it's
existing.
J
Yes,
there
is
some
stairs
going
up
in
the
backyard.
Yes
right.
B
B
A
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Mr
Lopes
is
anyone
here
to
to
speak
on
in
favor
or
opposition
of
The
Proposal.
F
Yes,
Mr
chair
members
of
the
board,
Connor
Newman
with
the
mayor's
office
of
Neighborhood
Services.
This
time
the
mayor's
office
like
to
deferred
judgment
to
the
board
our
office
did
Holden
the
butters
meeting.
No
concerns
were
raised,
we're
unaware
of
any
concerns
from
the
neighborhood
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
A
Okay
again,
it
does
seem
to
me
like
there's
a
net
gain
here
of
a
parking
spot.
The
the
curb
cut
is
12
feet.
You
know
one
one
possible
consideration
might
be
to
reduce
it
to
ten.
D
A
You
know
so
I'm
looking
for
a
motion
now.
D
A
I
to
him
in
favor,
the
motion
passes
without
Proviso.
C
Calling
your
next
case
calling
DOA
one
three,
four:
nine
six,
seven,
five,
four
Deborah
Street:
this
is
a
demolition
of
existing
porch
in
the
rare
construction
of
a
new
porch
and
the
same
footprint,
an
extension
of
habitable
space.
On
the
second
floor
level,
the
violations
article
65
section,
9,
the
Floyd-
a
ratio
is
excessive
name
and
address
for.
C
H
Valerie
Davis:
are
you
with
Mr
Allen.
C
D
C
Following
the
next
case,
calling
VOA
one
three:
five:
zero
three:
three:
eight
seven
Larchmont
Street.
This
is
a
small
addition
in
the
back
of
the
house
with
elevator
bathroom
to
downstairs
and
closet
upstairs
the
violations,
article,
65,
69,
side,
jobs,
insufficient
and
article
65,
section
9.
The
rail
yard
is
insufficient
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Please.