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From YouTube: Boston Harbor Leaders Forum
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Boston Harbor has long been the city's most valuable asset and now is the time to take advantage of it. Mayor Walsh joins the mayor of Salem, Kim Driscoll, and the mayor of Lynn, Thomas McGee, at the New England Aquarium IMAX Theatre to discuss the harbor's role as a unique form of transportation and open space, along with how it can strengthen our climate resilience and regional economy.
A
The
aquarium
has
played
a
key
role
in
activating
the
Boston
waterfront
and
has
been
a
national
leader
for
more
than
10
years.
In
climate
change
engagement.
We
are
now
increasing
our
focus
on
building
climate
resilience
engagement
in
nearby
coastal
communities.
We
are
currently
engaged
in
planning,
more
public
activation
of,
and
climate
resiliency
for
our
home
here
on
central
wharf,
we're
working
closely
with
the
communities
of
in
East
Boston,
Chelsea,
linen
hull
on
climate
resiliency
engagement
and
serve
as
a
convener
to
bring
together
key
stakeholders
and
communities
on
important
topics.
B
B
We
need
all
of
you
to
to
realize
this
opportunity,
so
the
harbor
is
really
it's
it's
an
incredible
place
because
it
not
only
does
it
transcend
our
neighborhoods
within
the
city
of
Boston,
but
it
transcends
our
municipalities,
our
boundaries.
It's
why
our
cities
exist
where
they
do
it's
the
Harbor
that
drove
our
economy
for
centuries.
It
formed
our
identity
as
a
region
and
I.
Think
most
of
us
are
here
tonight
know
that
the
now
clean
harbor
is
continuing
to
drive
our
economy.
B
All
we
have
to
do
is
look
at
the
Seaport
District,
you
know,
add
water
and
see
what
sprouts
or
look
at
the
maritime
numbers
form
a
sport
which
are
going
going
up
nowhere,
but
up
the
harbor,
our
region's
largest
green
and
blew
public
open
space.
An
economic
driver
differentiates
us
from
hundreds
and
thousands
of
cities
across
the
United
States
and
around
the
globe,
and
it
is
a
competitive
advantage
that
contributes
to
our
economic
health.
It
contributes
to
our
environmental,
health
and
truth.
B
B
We
need
to
continue
to
evolve
our
waterfront
and
harbor
and
establish
a
shared
vision
for
resilience
for
access
and
for
delivering
on
the
promise
of
great
waterfront
cities,
which
are
places
where
everyone
can
work
and
live
and
can
play
with
that
I
get
to
introduce
one
of
my
board
members
and
the
former
president
of
the
New
England
Aquarium
Union
of
Concerned
Scientists,
also
on
the
board
of
the
Greenway
bud
risk
who's
going
to
moderate
this
very
important
discussion
tonight.
Thank
you
all
for
coming.
C
Thanks
Jeff,
it's
very
nice
to
be
here.
I
know
this
place
pretty
well
and
I'll
offer
my
speakers
a
little
bit
advice,
don't
lean
back.
It
drops
off
about
ten
feet
and
don't
fall
off
the
step
over
here.
So
welcome
to
all
of
you.
We're
really
excited
to
have
our
three
mayor's
as
guests
this
evening.
There
are
going
to
be
a
number
of
other
forums
and
events
over
the
next
several
months
and
during
the
year
where
we
will
invite
mayor's
from
our
city
managers
from
other
cities
and
towns
bordering
along
the
harbor.
C
So
this
is
a
first
in
what
I
hope
will
be.
A
series
of
events
like
this.
We're
gonna
have
about
45
minutes
or
so
of
discussion
and
then
have
mayor.
Walsh,
unfortunately
has
to
leave
at
6:30
for
another
event,
something
like
that
so
before
he
leaves
we
want
to
start
to
open
it
up
for
questions
around
6:00,
26
25,
and
then
we
can
run
till
7
o'clock.
So
welcome
all
of
you.
C
We
made
a
very
hard
choice.
We
could
either
go
alphabetically
in
the
first
set
of
questions
or
we
could
go
geographically.
Fortunately,
if
you
start
north
to
south,
you
get
the
same
order
as
alphabetically,
so
we're
going
to
do
that.
So
the
theme
of
our
event
this
evening
can
you
all
hear
me
is
harbor
for
all.
Harbors
have
many
uses,
and
many
users,
industrial
ports,
power
plants,
oil
terminals,
commercial
and
residential
real-estate
parks,
open
space
and
recreational
boating
facilities,
to
name
a
few.
C
So
the
first
issue
I
want
us
to
address
here
is
what
does
Harbor
all
mean
for
you
and
your
city
and
the
people
who
live
and
work
there
and
I'm
gonna
start
alphabetically
from
the
top
of
Mayor
Driscoll
Salem,
most
people,
think
of
Salem
because
of
its
history,
its
festivals,
particularly
at
a
certain
time
of
year,
and
it's
world-class
museum.
The
Peabody
Essex
Museum
among
other
things,
but
it
has
a
great
harbour
I
know
because
I've
sailed
there
any
number
of
times
from
the
water.
It's
really
quite
a
majestic
place.
C
I
once
made
the
mistake,
though,
of
sailing
up
there
for
a
quiet
weekend
in
October,
not
knowing
it
was
Halloween
weekend.
So
the
less
quiet
that
sure
and
I
know
that
you've
gone
through
a
fairly
robust
citywide
visioning
process
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
So
I
think
my
first
question
is,
you
know:
did
interest
in
the
harbour
emerge
from
that
and
if
so,
what
will
it
mean
going
forward?
Yeah.
D
Absolutely
and
thank
you
for
having
us
being
part
of
this
panel
collectively
with
so
many
communities
who
are
on
the
waterfront
and
really
see
our
Harbor
for
Salem.
Are
we
don't
have
highway
access?
Our
Harbor
is
our
route
128,
it's
our
highway,
it's
our
Economic
Opportunity
and
it
has
been
since
Salem
really
was
founded
the
great
age
of
sail,
first
millionaire
in
America
Salem's
prominence
at
the
time,
certainly
all
derived
from
Harbor
and
our
shipping
industries
that
existed,
that
very
museum.
D
You
mentioned
started
by
sea
captain's
who
needed
a
place
to
house
the
amazing
things
they
brought
back
from
around
the
world
and
we're
pleased
that
it's
still
there
I
think
for
us
through
our
both
our
imagined
Salem
process
and
our
Harbor
planning
process
that
strong
connection
to
history
for
people
who
live
visit
or
work
and
Salem
came
through
Salem
Sound,
beautiful
Harbor.
How
do
we
make
sure
we're
gaining
access
to
it?
For
so
long?
D
The
harbor
was
the
key
part
of
our
economy
and
then,
during
the
normal
turn
of
the
industrialization,
you
saw
our
community
more
or
less
are
back
on
the
harbor.
It
became
where
factories
were
and
wasn't
necessarily
the
type
of
waterfront
that
it
is
today
and
I've
been
pleased
over
the
last
decade.
As
we've
seen,
things
turn
over
an
old
cold
fired
power
plant
now,
a
much
smaller,
cleaner,
leaner
gas
facility
with
40
acres
around
it
for
redevelopment
opportunities
to
bring
cruise
ships
to
have
coal
ships
now
have
cruise
ships
coming
in
in
a
community.
D
That's
tourism
is
a
big
part
of
our
economy
and
to
recognize
recreational
opportunities.
People
come
here.
They
want
the
coast,
we're
so
incredibly
fortunate
to
live
in
a
coastal
community
and
so
connected
to
Boston
and
to
be
able
to
have
water
transportation
that
can
bring
you
from
Salem
into
Boston
every
single
day,
May
through
October
carrying
70,000
passengers
for
us
really
opens
up
even
more
opportunities
to
celebrate
that
waterway
to
get
people
out
in
Salem
Sound
and
to
make
the
really
vital
connections.
D
I
think
why
I'm
excited
to
be
here
and
all
the
work
that
Boston
Harbor
now
is
doing
is
because
it's
connecting
us
as
part
of
a
water
network
going
out
to
the
Harbor
Islands
connecting
to
Lynn
bringing
people
to
Boston
and
vice
versa.
We
have
a
lot
of
folks
coming
out
of
Boston
to
Salem
and
using
the
waterfront
to
do
that
is
really
key
and
vital
to
our
success.
So.
C
So,
thank
you.
We'll
come
back
to
the
connections
when
you
send
a
little
bit.
We
want
to
talk
a
bit
more
about
water
transportations,
so
mayor,
Maggie,
Lynn,
I,
believe,
is
undertaking
a
new
waterfront
planning
effort
that
I
think
the
last
one
was
maybe
10
or
11
years
ago.
Is
that
right?
So
can
you
give
us
a
little
feel
for
some
of
the
issues
and
what
you
see
as
the
focus
of
that
plan
as
you
go
forward?
Yes,.
E
We're
also
in
the
process
of
doing
a
waterfront
open
space
plan
in
conjunction
with
that,
so
recognizing
that
there's
opportunities
there
and
Lynn.
Similarly
I,
don't
know
that
we
we
had
a
lot
of
you
know
probably
hundred
years
ago.
So
and
probably
you
know
50
75
years
ago,
a
lot
of
barges
coming
in,
we
didn't
have
the
same
kind
of
harbor
as
Boston
or
Salem
did.
E
But
we
we
took
advantage
of
that
and
then
we
basically
completely
blocked
off
the
Hobbit
for
my
community
and
if
you
get
time
the
buildings,
if
you're
right
drive
on
the
Lynn
way,
most
people
have
been
90
percent
of
the
people
in
Lynn
have
no
idea.
What's
you
know,
250
300
yards
behind
all
of
the
buildings
that
sit
along
our
Lynn
way.
E
You
go
back
there
and
you
see
the
the
amazing
location
we
sit
at
looking
out
at
the
Harbor
Island,
so
I
think
people
in
the
community
are
looking
for
to
again
access
that
beautiful
space.
Get
a
boardwalk
from
the
General
Motors
bridge
to
the
beach,
see
some
development
and
opportunity
for
development,
but
I
see
it.
As
you
know,
there's
mixed
use
to
opportunities
with
restaurants,
shops
boardwalk
public
space
key,
but
also
we
have
a
piece
in
the
middle.
E
That's
a
working
waterfront,
which
I
think
just
is
just
as
important
so
that
you
can
continue
to
create
jobs
that
are
port
related,
but
you
know
make
that
piece.
I
think
is
an
important
part
of
that.
So
it's
not
just
from
the
bridge
to
the
to
the
beach
we're
building.
Mixed-Use
and
housing
we're
taking
advantage
of
opportunity
to
create
jobs
that
will
link
to
our
waterfront
as
well.
E
So
the
community
is
really
excited
and
a
lot
of
Transportation
I
know
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community
were
really
excited
when
we
had
a
chance
to
get
that
off
the
ground
and
many
people
who
didn't
who
would
didn't
our
wooden
really
is
what
a
transportation
we're
really
excited
because
I
think
they
realized.
This
was
an
opportunity
to
focus
on
what
we
have
here,
a
resource
that
we
hadn't
taken
advantage
of
for
50
or
75
years,
and
so
there
really
is
an
excitement
about
what
we
can
do
to
upgrade.
E
C
E
C
I
should
say
if
any
of
you
feel
free
to
chime
in
and
ask
questions
or
help
each
other
answer,
questions
that'd
be
fine,
so
mayor,
Walsh,
I
think
you've
probably
set
the
world
record
for
the
most
planning
by
in
any
city
in
the
United
States
in
the
last
three
years,
which
was
a
given
massively.
That
was
a
compliment
because,
as
we
all
know,
I
think
it
was
massively
overdue.
So
thank
you
for
that.
C
But
imagine
Boston
2030
was
the
lead
identified:
lots
of
opportunities
for
open
space
around
Boston,
Harbor
climate,
ready,
Boston,
which
I'm
very
familiar
with
and
have
worked
closely
with.
You
with
your
team
in
the
city
also
prioritized
and
is
in
process
of
prioritizing
in
different
neighborhoods
around
the
city,
various
places
where
open
space
can
be
used
as
a
buffer
to
make
the
city
more
resilient
against
sea
level
rise
and
storms.
Right
out
here
we
have
a
new
municipal
Harbor
plan,
which
is
called
for
more
open
space.
The
Blueway
concept
right
here
around
the
aquarium.
C
F
You,
but
let
me
first
of
all
just
real
quickly
thank
Eric
and
the
aquarium
for
hosting
us
today.
Kathy.
Thank
you
for
the
great
advocacy
as
well.
I
want
to
thank
you
bud
Austin
Blackman,
my
chief
environment,
my
mental
affairs
this
year
and
I
also
want
to
give
a
shout-out
to
the
bar
foundation.
Who's
been
very
supportive
in
funding,
so
many
different
issues
around
climate,
resiliency
and
climate
change,
so
I
want
to
thank
them.
F
Looking
and
seeing
what
we
did
here
in
Boston
is
ok.
We
got
to
do
a
little
different,
so
in
saying
that
as
we
move
forward
here,
it
really
is
thinking
about
the
development
that
we
have
making
sure
that
it's
smart
development
making
sure
that
it's
resilient
development
we
saw
in
January
and
March
of
this
year.
I
think
it
was
nine
extraordinary
high
tides
where
we
had
water
coming
into
South
Boston
into
North
End
into
Charlestown
and
all
over
the
place.
F
How
do
we
make
sure
there's
green
space
around
the
building
and
how
do
we
protect
the
other
assets
that
are
in
that
area
and
we're
working
on
a
plan
right
now,
we've
worked
on
it
for
a
while
to
climb
already
Boston
of
really
looking
at
the
inner
harbor
of
Boston,
and
you
know
we
don't
have
the
luxury
of
having
100
yards
of
open
space
in
front
of
all
of
our
buildings
on
the
harbor.
So
we
have
to
think
about.
Is
it
sea
wall?
Is
it
a
buffer?
F
F
So
as
we
as
we
build
and
develop,
we
really
have
to
make
part
of
a
lot
of
these
developments,
a
portion
of
that
as
as
a
resiliency,
and
that
word
is
a
broad
open
for
a
lot
of
different
meanings
on
how
we
do
it
and
I
think
that
you
know
again
to
go
back
to
the
Brooklyn
United
situation
loved
it
when
we
drove
we
won
we're
on
that.
We
were
on
the
Hudson
and
we
drove
on
the
outside
and
we
went
in
as
well.
There
was
really
a
lot
to
learn
from
that.
F
I
had
a
meeting
with
some
of
the
designers
of
Brooklyn
Bridge
Park
in
they
came
into
my
office
and
they
were
talking
about
resiliency
and
they
were
literally
talking
about
potentially
building
islands
in
the
harbor
to
protect
off
of
off
of
the
shoreline.
So
to
some
of
what
Romney
is
doing,
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
Boston
is
a
better
Harbor
walk.
How
can
we
create
something
that
can
be
a
barrier
to
sea
level
rise,
open
space
for
people
to
go
on,
while
not
disrupting
the
development?
C
A
very
complex
challenge
going
forward,
but
I
think
you're
getting
a
good
handle
on
it,
and
you
know:
we've
been
involved
with
a
lot
of
the
resilience
planning,
that's
going
on
in
the
Seaport
and
elsewhere
and
I
think
you're
exactly
right.
The
one
thing
we
heard
from
people
over
and
over
again:
yes,
we
want
protection,
but
we
don't
want
to
lose
our
sight
lines
and
we
don't
want
to
lose
our
connection
to
the
harbor.
F
F
We
were
doing
it
before,
but
I
think
her
words
even
more
true
today
and
I
can't
you
know,
I
can't
come
to
the
camera
anymore
and
give
a
conversation
about
the
plans
were
working
on
because
people
are
like
enough
for
the
plans.
What
is
what's
the
concrete
actions
that
are
being
taken?
It's
it's
the
next
step
now
to
going
to
actions.
I
know,
I
can
give
more
speeches
about
what
we're
doing,
but
people
want
results.
Yeah.
C
I
think
part
of
that
is
we
had
it.
We
had
avert.
You
know
a
number
of
big
wake-up
calls
with
these
storms
this
past
winter
and
they
they
actually
weren't,
really
more
severe
than
storms
in
the
past,
but
because
we
had
five
inches
more
sea
level
since
1978,
which
was
the
big
storm
on
record,
they
exposed
as
much
of
much
of
the
same
land
and
people
to
risk.
So
that's.
F
A
problem
in
January,
six,
more
inches
of
rain,
which
is
a
sea-level
rise,
we're
evacuating
buildings
and
I
was
talking
to
Commission
offender
out
that
whole
time
and
what
he
was
concerned
about
in
the
north
end,
a
lot
of
people's
utilities
are
in
the
basement,
and
if
that
water
came
in
six
more
inches,
it
was
six
inches
higher.
We
were
evacuating
building,
so
we're
evacuating
homes.
It
didn't
happen.
We
didn't
have
a
nor'easter
per
se
when
that
happened
either,
which
is
another
blessing
in
some
ways
and
I.
F
Think
that
you
know,
for
me,
I
mean
I've
had
a
few
wake-up
calls.
But
for
me
that
was
something
that
really
hit
me
because
I
talked
to
Austin
a
lot
about
it
that
we
really
have
to
stop
thinking
about.
What
are
we
gonna
do
here,
because
you
know
that
storms
going
to
come,
it's
inevitable
and
it
could
come
under
my
tenure
or
it
might
come
under
the
next
person
tenure,
but
whenever
we
have
to
do
the
ifs,
it's
not
designing
and
doing
construction
now
in
development.
Now
to
prevent
that.
What.
C
C
E
I
still
I
think
we're
still
trying
to
get
our
hands
around
it.
We
we
were
impacted,
it's
funny.
If
you
look
at
Lynn,
we
have
a
substantial
waterfront
along
Lynn,
Shore
Drive,
not
impacted,
really,
we've
got
to
sits
very
high
and
with
some
really
crazy
waves
coming
through
during
their
storms,
but
there
was
not
really
the
impact.
E
The
impact
was
a
little
bit
where
the
water
was
just
coming
right
through
into
lower
areas
down
by
the
beach,
and
then
we
have
this
year,
Westland
an
area
that
is
you
know
and
there's
this
this
ongoing
issue
with
the
people
who
live
there,
but
it
was
like
a
river
coming
in
during
those
storms.
You
know
the
starkest
river
because
of
the
rise
was
very
gradual,
but
as
it
came
up,
it
wasn't
no
waves.
Just
the
water
came
winging
it.
E
So
that's
really
one
of
the
areas
we're
looking
at
and
we're
working
with
MAPC
to
trying
to
try
and
get
some
get
involved
with
that
get
some
grant
money
and
really
put
some
pieces
in
place
in
the
community.
We're
struggling
financially
right
now,
so
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
the
city
officials
that
can
help
us
address
this,
particularly
we
don't
have
a
Planning
Department
II
have
a
lot
of
issues
that
we're
facing
financially.
E
So
what
looking
to
help
outside
help
to
get
us
get
our
hands
around
it
talk
about
the
resiliency
looking
at
our
waterfront
development,
it's
key
that
we
understand
that
on
off
of
the
Lin
way,
but
really
some
of
the
neighborhoods
that
are
impacted.
It
again
reflects
I
think
what's
happening
in
Boston,
they
were
evacuated,
the
the
sellers
were
flooded
and
it
was
just
the
river
rise
during
those
storm.
E
F
You,
as
the
manager
said,
I,
think
one
of
the
things
you
can
do,
as
well
as
as
you're
planning
out
the
future
of
your
city.
We're
going
we're
about
to
begin
a
master
planning
process
at
mostly
parkansas
boston
and
inevitably
that'll
have
to
be
raised.
We're
doing
parks
in
the
north
end.
They'll
have
to
be
raised,
probably
about
40
inches,
we're
looking
at
raising
Main
Street
in
Charlestown
we're
looking
at
putting
deployed
the
portable
walls.
C
D
Do
I
mean
we
certainly
saw
the
effects
of
the
recent
storms
this
year
same
issues,
water,
flooding
and
its
title,
so
you
can't
stop
it.
It's
really
waiting
for
it
to
get
over
and
participating
in
the
cleanup,
we're
still
cleaning
up
beaches
erosion.
All
around
you
know,
we've
been
working
with
cesium
to
try
and
look
at
innovative
ways.
We've
done
a
lot
of
planning.
We've
got
our
climate
change,
vulnerability,
assessment
and
adaption
plan.
It
is
time
for
doing
it's
just
so
overwhelming
whether
you're
a
large
city
like
Boston,
our
city,
our
size
like
Salem.
D
Where
do
you
really
start
and
I've?
You
know:
we've
described
it
as
like
eating
an
elephant
right,
one
bite
at
a
time
and
trying
to
figure
out
where
you
find
those
those
pinch
points
where
those
opportunities
are
we
partnered
with
czm
looking
at
some
innovations
like
a
living
shoreline,
really
creating
another
habitat
within
a
particularly
area
of
our
Beach
and
hoping
that
will
grow
and
be
something
that
can
escalate
in
other
areas,
but
I
think
even
the
greater
challenges
and
the
public
side
and
the
resources
and
trying
to
expedite
permitting
is
also
the
private
sector.
D
Where
we
have
development
occurring,
we
need
housing.
We
want
it
to
happen.
It's
perhaps
close
to
a
train
station.
It's
exactly
the
sort
of
Smart
Growth
you
want
to
see.
Yet
you
also
want
a
plan
for
sea
level
rise
and
making
sure
as
we're
approving
these
permitting
projects
and
permitting
these
projects
we're
taking
that
into
consideration
working
with
the
private
sector
to
ensure
that
long-term
we're
not
going
to
see
another
redo
of
water.
You
know
flying
into
somebody's
front
door
and
that's
challenging
you
want
it
to
happen.
D
C
Guessing
in
terms
of
financing,
we're
not
going
to
get
a
lot
of
help
from
the
federal
government
over
the
next
few
years,
one
for
political
reasons,
but
secondly,
most
federal
money
flows,
post
disasters
and,
unlike
a
lot
of
the
rest,
other
parts
of
the
country,
we're
trying
to
get
ahead
of
the
game
here
by
planning
in
advance,
which
is
obviously
the
very
right
thing
to
do.
What
about
the
state?
C
D
During
the
last
storm,
the
governor
and
I
were
on
the
phone
commit
saying
about
the
challenges
that
we
have.
He
was
checking
and
to
be
honest
and
how's,
the
community
doing
he's
on
the
north
shore,
so
he
knows
some
of
the
areas
that
we
were
struggling
with
and
the
the
two
areas
that
we
really
talked
about
we're
resources.
I
think
we've
seen
enhanced
resources
in
this
latest
environmental
bond
bill
for
building
sea
walls
back
up
restructuring,
sea
walls.
D
This
last
storm
we
had
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
emergency
repairs,
let
alone
having
to
actually
restructure
and
rebuild
the
number
of
public
sea
walls.
That's
just
the
public
areas
that
we
have,
but
the
expedited
permitting
as
well
we're
looking
at
permitting
that
sometimes
can
run
from
two
to
three
years
and
some
of
that's
because
the
staff
folks
aren't
there
some
of
that's,
maybe
because
of
the
level
and
degree
of
permitting
that's
required.
D
F
Know
I
think
I.
Think
number
one
is
education
as
well
about
different
delegations.
We
have
to
let
them
know
the
importance
of
putting
money
and
for
preventative
care
if
you
will
and
how
much
that
can
save
us
in
the
backside.
I
think
that's
that's
key!
We're
proud
of
the
Metro
mayor's
coalition
and
also
all
the
mayors
in
the
Greater
Boston
area
get
together.
F
Often
in
the
last
the
last
meeting
we
had,
we
really
had
a
about
an
hour
long
conversation
about
engaging
the
state
a
lot
more
collectively
as
a
group
of
Mayors
and
really
thinking
about.
How
can
we
work
with
the
state
and
also
you
don't
write
off
the
federal
government.
I
know
this
government
that's
currently
in
place.
F
We
probably
I'm
gonna,
get
the
support
we
won,
but
it
is
important
for
us
because
the
people
that
work
in
those
offices
a
career
and
it's
important
for
them
to
understand
as
well
what's
happening
in
cities
and
towns
around
America,
because
I
think
it's
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
TV.
You
see,
you
know
you
see
situated
is
always
there
and
losing
coastline
and
Cape
Cod
losing
coastline.
That's
happening
in
Boston
Harbor
as
well,
so
I
think
it's
important
for
education,
I
think
it's
important
for
constant
conversation.
F
The
state
is
going
to
have
to
gonna,
have
to
step
up
and
play
in
this
space.
If
you
look
at
the
population
shift
of
Massachusetts,
the
population
is
going
from
the
central
part
of
the
state
in
the
West
and
pilot
state
to
the
eastern
part
of
the
state
and
they're
going
to
the
Harbor
and
we're
not
alone
in
Boston.
It's
happening
throughout
the
country.
F
So
I
think
when
you
see
the
population
coming
here,
it's
also
about
keeping
people
safe
and
keeping
keeping
their
homes
protected,
keeping
industry
protected,
because
we
are
the
economic
engines
of
the
of
the
north-northeast
pilot
country.
As
tom
said,
you
know,
chocolately
I
joked
about
the
lobsters,
but
think
about
the
amount
of
businesses
that
are
stead
of
supplied
by
what
happens
and
land
that
people
don't
realize
exactly.
E
I,
just
just
like
follow
up
I
think
that
the
biggest
challenge
is
is
the
recognition
that
we,
the
infrastructure
investment
we
need
to
make
is
not
happening
across
the
board
in
every
area
and
it's
a
larger
discussion
as
elected
leaders
working
with
the
state
and
the
federal
government
and
I
think
just
as
importantly
with
with
the
people
that
we
represent
and
the
people
that
live
in
the
in
the
region
that
understand
that
those
investments
not
being
made
and
I
think
one
of
the
reports
on
transportation.
The
cost
of
you
know
doing
nothing.
E
So
it's
that's
a
reality
and
if
we
don't
take
a
look
at
this
and
understand
the
ramifications
of
limited
investment,
our
lack
of
investment
in
these
kind
of
issues,
the
prices
is
astronomical
in
terms
of
our
economy
and
how
we
can
either
grow
or
to
continue
to
see
a
positive
economic
growth.
So
it's
it's
a
not
an
easy
discussion
to
have
whether
it
be
transportation
or
infrastructure.
E
C
So
a
nice
range
of
size
and
scale
here
so
I'd
like
to
switch
over
to
the
connectivity
issue,
which
is
water,
transportation
and
I.
Think
as
anybody
knows,
who's
been
around
at
least
Boston
Harbor
for
a
while.
There
have
been
many
fits
and
starts
over
the
last
several
years
of
various
ferry
systems
and
different
routes,
and
a
lot
of
talk
about
new
facilities
getting
built
here
and
there
and
so
on,
but
a
lot
hasn't
materialized
and
perhaps
the
way
some
people
at
least
would
have
liked.
C
It's
it's
an
issue
that
I
think
has
come
back
to
the
fore
now,
particularly
as
our
highways
get
more
and
more
congested
and
people
are
looking
for
alternatives.
So
it's
an
issue
that
could
really
bring
our
cities
together,
particularly
the
three
that
are
represented
here
today
and
I,
know
mayor
Driscoll.
That
Salem
has
been
very
innovative
on
this
issue
for
a
good
amount
of
time,
and
maybe
you
can
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
you've
done
and
why
and
go
from
there
sure.
D
So
Salem
has
a
ferry
that
goes
in
and
out
of
Boston
from
May
through
October
we've
carried
about
70,000
passengers,
we
actually
own
the
boats.
We
received
a
state
grant
approximately
12
years
ago
now
that
paid
for
75%
of
the
vessel.
Prior
to
that,
we
had
had
a
demonstration
project
to
kind
of
tease
out
to
see
if
this
was
something
that
would
really
work.
We're
only
14
miles
north
of
Boston,
but
I
don't
have
to
tell
anyone
who
lives
on
the
North
Shore.
D
If
you're
going
down
Route
1
or
going
down
route
1a,
it's
not
exactly
the
most
joyous
way
to
come
in
and
out
of
town
and
if
anything,
it's
gotten
worse,
I
think
over
the
last
several
years
it
used
to
be
bad
just
in
commuting
hours
and
commuting
hours
feel
like
it's
the
entire
day
now,
so
the
ferry
is
definitely
one
of
the
more
popular
ways
to
get
in
and
out
of
town
for
us
and
really
making
it
work
was
owning
the
boat.
You
know,
ownership
of
the
vessel.
Having
that
state
investment
was
super
helpful.
D
We
just
actually
received
federal
funding
for
a
second
ferry,
so
we're
really
excited
about
thinking
about
having
one
boats
of
ferry
having
two
boats
become
a
little
bit
more
of
a
network.
How
do
we
use
that
to
go
into
the
Seaport
District,
where
a
lot
of
residents
work
from
the
North
Shore?
How
do
we
use
that
to
think
about
going
to
p-town
it's
about
90
minutes
from
Salem
to
p-town,
like
think
about
driving
that
for
a
minute
right,
crazy?
D
So
for
us,
I,
look
at
the
harbor,
always
as
our
Economic
Opportunity,
that
ferry
is
route
1b
right,
hon,
1a,
1b
wide-open,
so
much
space,
so
much
capacity
comes
into
Long,
Wharf,
now
again,
we'd
love
to
find
some
other
areas
in
the
Seaport,
especially
with
a
second
boat.
The
ability
to
have
the
commuters
who
use
our
ferry
have
it
be
interchangeable
with
the
T
pass.
So
anyone
who
has
a
zone
3
Pass
has
the
option
of
taking
the
ferry
or
the
commuter
rail
has
one
of
the
highest
ridership
s--
in
the
entire
commuter
rail
system.
D
So
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
take
who
take
the
train
in
and
out
of
Salem
on
a
regular
basis.
Now
they
can
interchange
between
the
boat
and
the
Train.
A
lot
of
happy
people
by
the
way
coming
in
to
Salem
going
home
starting
early
with
a
cocktail.
Everyone's
a
lot
happier
commuting
on
the
boat
than
on
the
train.
D
D
On
top
of
that,
we
do
have
a
water
transportation,
a
water
taxi
service
that
operates
this
year,
it'll
be
more
of
an
on-demand
service
like
an
uber
service
and
we'll
also
go
out
to
Marblehead,
so
it
won't
just
be
intra
Salem
if
you're
in
Marblehead
another
way
to
get
in
and
cutting
down
on
that
car
congestion.
That's
you
know
getting
folks
out
in
the
water
enjoying
the
harbor
absolutely,
but
also
keeping
cars
off
of
our
roads.
That's
our
number
one
challenge
for
new
development.
D
C
Really
fascinated
in
my
first
year
here,
one
of
the
smartest
things
we
decided
to
do
was
sell
our
whale
watch
both.
So
we
got
out
of
the
business
of
owning
a
boat
and
out
sourced
it
and
and
to
Boston
harbor
cruises,
who
have
been
equally
good
for
us
and
I
think
Eric
at
this
point.
Sometimes
in
the
summer
they
do
eight
trips
a
day
of
whale
watching.
C
D
I
mean
I
think
if
you're
relying
just
on
commuters
it's
hard
without
an
operating
subsidy.
We,
the
stumbling
block
for
us,
is
definitely
having
the
flexibility.
Having
boats
will
provide
more
flexibility,
we
go
in,
we
come
back,
we
go
in,
we
come
back
being
able
to
have
that
network
owning
the
boat,
although
you
wouldn't
want
to
necessarily
own
the
boat.
The
way
we
have
our
contract
fashioned,
the
state
picked
up
a
large
piece
of
it.
The
operator
takes
in
all
the
revenues,
but
it's
also
responsible
for
the
maintenance.
D
There's
an
hourly
fee
charged
off
for
the
capital
and
we've
got
a
high
quality
operator.
They
know
how
to
run
the
boat.
It's
a
high-speed
catamaran.
They
know
how
to
operate
it.
They
know
how
to
fix
it
and
repair
it.
They
do
well
in
the
off
season
in
terms
of
making
upgrades,
and
that
has
really
made
it
work.
But
if
we
didn't
have
that
subsidy
to
purchase
that
boat,
it
would
never
have
worked
with
us
actually
putting
out
the
outlay
of
capital
if
we
would
have
to
severely
subsidized
it.
D
We'd
love
more
interaction
with
the
tea
I
think
this
is
the
first
few
years
that
we've
been
able
to
have
the
interchangeable
tea
pass
and
that's
been
a
big
help,
because
the
train
service
is
very,
very
good
in
and
out
of,
Salem
and
people
can
now
combine
that
with
the
flexibility
you
need,
if
you're
a
commuter
or
somebody
traveling
in
and
out
of
Boston.
So.
C
Mayor
Magee,
you
were
a
really
strong
advocate
for
mass
transit
and
water
transportation
when,
when
you
were
the
chair
of
the
Transportation
Committee
in
the
in
the
legislature,
I
believe
at
the
moment
Lynn
does
not
have
ferry
service
running
and
where
do
you
think
you're
going
with
that?
And
what
do
you
hope
to
do.
E
Well,
it's
anybody!
That's
in
this
room
knows
me
probably
knows
I
talk
about
what
a
transportation
once
in
a
while.
It's
you
know
about
18
years
ago,
and
we've
been
talking
about
the
blue
line
tool
in
since
1946
or
before
still
not
happening.
So
you
know
it's
in
the
legislature
and
it
actually
was
on
a
ferry
from
New
London
to
the
vineyard
and
the
light
went
on
when
I
got
on.
That
was
like
two
twenty
two
two
and
a
half
hours,
maybe
four,
which
would
have
been
a
six
or
seven-hour
journey,
and
it
hit
me.
E
You
know
you
know
where,
with
30
minutes
from
Boston
by
boat
and
so
for
18
years,
I've
been
beating
the
drum
one
before
I
was
on
the
transportation
committee.
Beating
the
drum
on
what
I
think
is
is
unlimited,
unlimited
for
everybody
in
this
region.
What
a
transportation
will
be:
San,
Francisco,
New,
York,
Baltimore
they've
taken
advantage
of
it.
We
have
not
taken
advantage
of
and
the
idea
that
cities
have
to
be
buy
a
boat
and
run
the
service
and
we're
running
it.
E
First
of
all,
there's
no
way
in
hell
that
one's
gonna
be
relying
of
buying
our
own
boat
and
running
the
service.
So
I
have
been
pushing
hard.
We
got
a
four
and
a
half
million
dollar
and
I've
grant
a
couple
years
ago.
We're
still
trying
to
get
that
over
the
finish
line
to
get
our
own
boat,
but
I
think
it
really
is
in
the
larger
opportunity
is
what
we
need
to
be
looking
at
and
partnering
with.
You
know,
Salem
twelve
years
ago,
nobody
believed
it
was
gonna
work,
Kim
right.
Nobody,
everyone
said
you're,
absolutely
crazy.
E
You
don't
spend
any
of
the
city's
money.
Nobody's
gonna
come
on
a
ferry.
We've
had
the
same.
We
have
the
same
thing.
We
got
the
second
phase
of
funding
for
us
seven
and
a
half
million
dollar
state-of-the-art
facility.
Inland
and
the
Lind
paper
wrote
a
full-page
editorial.
Tom
McGee's,
crazy,
nobody's
ever
gonna
take
a
ferry
from
Lynn.
My
own
paper.
We're
gonna
have
a
million
half
dollars
to
continue
the
to
get
that
ferry.
Going
he's
four
thousand
people
a
day.
E
Take
the
commuter
rail
down
to
North
Station
from
the
Nashua
that
work
in
the
Seaport
District
South
Boston
waterfront.
They
could
be
on
a
25
minute
boat
ride
from
Lynn
to
Boston.
If
you
took
a
quarter
of
those
or
a
half
of
those
riders
you'd
be
running
the
Hingham
ferry
service
adilyn,
which
is
the
best
bang
for
you
buck
of
any
service.
It's
65
cents
on
the
dollar.
I
read
a
story
recently
in
the
address
section
of
the
globe:
85
cents
on
the
dollar
return.
E
It's
the
idea
that
the
subsidies
are
crazy,
that
this
can't
work.
We
could
buy
15
or
16
ferries
for
100
million
dollars.
If
we
had
the
locations
to
get
those
fairies
running,
we
started
running
15
or
20
ferries
in
the
region,
guess
what
we
would
have
riders
and
we
would
have
economic
opportunity
popping
up
all
throughout
this
region
in
Quincy
and
Winthrop
and
Salem
and
Lynn
in
devily
in
Marblehead
and
Boston
I.
Don't
have
to
explain
to
me
Walsh!
E
He
understands
because
the
the
gridlock
that's
happening,
there's
so
many
opportunities
to
access
what's
going
on
Boston
by
the
water.
So
it's
about
land.
It's
about!
Trying
to
get
us
full
year-round
service
because
I
think
it
will
be
a
successful
for
the
for
the
first
year
we
have
13,000
right
at
second
year,
15,000
from
May
to
September
that
was
close
to
300
people
a
day
with
not
a
lot
of
money,
not
a
lot
of
advertising.
Limited
commuter
rail,
paso,
ax,
two
rides
in
the
morning.
Two
rides
a
night.
E
It's
a
no-brainer,
in
my
opinion,
so
I
feel
very
strongly
about
it.
Hanging
Hall
Quincy,
Plymouth
down
to
the
Cape
90
minutes
to
Provincetown.
We
have
an
opportunity
here
to
take
advantage
of
what
we
have
is
the
greatest
resource.
We
have
to
make
something
really
great
happen
and
it's
it
can't
be
city
to
city.
It
needs
to
be
a
robust,
coordinated
system
that
recognizes
this
again.
Logan
Airport
has
a
state-of-the-art
facility.
E
D
I
just
add
one
comment
to
that
and
wanted
to
percent
agree
with
everything
that
Tom
has
said.
The
amazing
opportunities
that
we
have
on
the
harbor.
The
other
key
piece
is
once
you
buy
the
boat
and
invest
in
the
poor
and
you
get
an
operating
there's
no
track
maintenance.
There's
no
potholes,
there's
just
no
all
the
money.
We
spend
on
maintenance
right
now
for
the
other,
traditional
ways
of
commuting
and
having
cars
and
vehicles
and
trains
and
buses
come
in
to
come
in
and
out
of
Boston.
D
They
don't
exist
that
those
dollars
that
you're
spending
to
help
subsidize
the
purchase
in
the
operation
you're
not
spending
them
on
a
lot
of
maintenance
and
it's
from
a
financial
perspective.
If
you
look
at
it
in
that
capacity,
it
makes
it
even
more
of
a
no-brainer
than
the
comments
that
Tom
ever
made.
What.
E
I'd
like
to
follow
up
cuz
you've
got
a
really
good
point.
Kim
is
none
of
that's
factored
into
the
decisions
that
there's
no
maintenance
is
very
limited.
You
know
it's
less
than
50
cents
on
the
dollar.
We
get
returned
on
commuter
rail,
which
is
a
19th
century
system.
That's
another
story.
For
another
day,
the
the
you're
right,
the
the
the
maintenance
is
very
limited,
and
so
you
can.
You
know
when
they
really
look
at
the
real
dollars
and
you've
got
the
pioneer
Institute
selling
saying
we
should
spend
money.
E
F
I
think
that
coming
up
with
a
system
that
works
for
all
Kim
brought
up
the
uber
idea
on
the
on
the
boats.
I'm,
not
you
know
how
I
am
the
uber
situation
in
cars.
They
just
stop
all
whoever,
but
I'll
tell
you.
I
was
at
their
first
cousin
I
having
dinner
and
I
sat
outside
and
I
was
watching
this
boat.
Just
it
was
just
a
small
taxi
shuttle
and
I
watched
them.
The
gentlemen
in
the
boat.
F
He
must
have
made
15
trips
across
the
harbor
and
every
time
he
went
across
it
was
full
and
every
time
he
came
back
was
full
and
I
believe
he
was
going
over
the
East,
Boston
and
Charlestown,
and
it
was
a
wonderful
way
for
transportation
in
the
Inner,
Harbor
and
I.
Do
think
that
it
is
important
that
people
we
have
a
reliable
service.
I
also
think
in
Tom
touched
upon
this.
Briefly.
You
talked
about
his
trips
going
up
and
Lynn
without
marketing
we
have
to
market
as
well.
It
has
to
be
a
reliable
service.
F
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
shortfalls
of
the
of
the
late
nineties
service
that
was
happening
here
in
Boston.
It
wasn't
marketed,
people
didn't
know,
even
though
we
all
think
everyone
pays
attention
to
what
we
say.
It's
about
marketing
as
well
and
I
think
that
investment
in
marketing
and
letting
people
know
that
it's
a
reliable
transportation
option,
there's
something
we
have
to
do
you.
E
D
C
F
D
Need
all
the
housing
we
can
get
I
mean
are
most
of
the
folks
coming
into
Salem.
Right
now
are
coming
out
of
boston
and
cambridge
and
somerville,
because
they
can't
afford
your
prices
and
then
they're
forcing
the
folks
who
live
in
Salem
to
go
further
up
as
well,
but
we're
not
gonna
build
new
roads
to
get
out
of
getting
people
in
and
out
of
town.
It's
gonna
take
some
kind
of
alternative.
F
There's
no
place
to
build
the
roads,
I
mean
that's
one
of
the
problems
we
have
in
Boston
when
we
think
about
expanding
and
doing
bike
lanes
and
different
things
like
that.
There's
just
we
just
had
no
space,
and
you
know
I
mean
the
Central.
Avenue
project
was
great,
but
there's
we
can't
expand
the
highway.
There's
no
place
to
go
unless
we
dig
another.
E
Tunnel
mm-hmm
and
massing
report
the
last
few
weeks
with
transit,
oriented
development
in
focuses
on
commuter
rail
for
the
13
gateway
cities,
I
think
just
as
easily
could
have
focused
on
on
the
regional
all
region,
access
points
to
in
the
water.
Similarly
with,
as
you
say,
housing
job
opportunity
and
connections
that
really
make
make
sure
that
the
economy
is
not
going
to
stagnate
over
the
next
few
years.
We're
gonna
continue
to
grow
so.
C
C
This
pier
was
sold
to
the
New
England
Aquarium
in
1968
or
69
for
$1,
because
at
that
point
in
time
the
harbor
was
pretty
decrepit
and
the
waterfront
was
in
bad
shape
and
it
was
a
way
to
stimulate
development
of
the
waterfront,
which
I
think
it
really
had
a
major
impact
over
those
years.
One
square
foot
of
a
new
condo
over
in
the
Seaport
now
goes
for
$2000,
and
this
is
a
you
know.
An
interesting
challenge,
I
think
going
forward.
As
we
talk
about
you
know,
making
the
harbor
more
resilient
and
adding
more
open
space.
C
We
have
to
balance
that,
with
all
the
new
development
that's
taking
place,
we
need
private
development
for
our
tax
base
and
to
pay
for
some
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do.
But
there
is
a
real
risk
that
we
may
be
walling
off
the
harbor
to
lots
of
the
people
who
could
really
benefit
from
getting
there.
So
how
do
we
tackle
this
issue
in
our
harbors
and
along
our
water
fronts?
How
do
we
really
make
it
a
harbor
open
to
all
you.
D
Know
I
think
in
Salem
in
some
ways
the
the
opposite
is
occurring
and
I'll
give
a
couple
of
examples
of
that.
This
coal-fired
power
plant,
the
Salem
Harbor
plant
that
has
been
on
Salem's
waterfront
since
1950,
also
sits
next
to
the
South
Essex
sewage
district,
which
is
around
the
corner
from
the
former
Pequot
Mills.
We
have
a
waterfront
that,
frankly,
has
been
tied
up
in
many
industrial
uses.
D
There
are
public
access
points,
we've
got
a
Park
Service,
we've
got
lots
of
Waterfront
Park,
so
I
don't
want
to
where
those
public
spaces
are,
but
many
of
those
really
industrial
use
properties
that
had
gates
on
them.
You
never
had
access
to
at
all
are
being
transformed
so
that
65-acre
power
plant
site
is
now
a
ten
acre
natural
gas
plant
with
lots
of
public
access
built
in
through
the
permitting
process.
40
acres
around
it
for
redevelopment
it'll
hold
the
cruise
port,
it's
right
next
door
to
where
the
ferry
comes
in.
D
So
we
see
that
as
a
blossoming
of
an
opportunity
for
waterfront
development,
same
thing
with
Shetland
Park.
Some
of
the
permitting
process
now
enables
us
to
get
into
some
of
those
as
they're
being
redeveloped
and
reused,
to
get
into
some
of
those
areas
to
create
public
open
space
while
also
helping
our
economic
needs.
The
power
plant
has
been
our
largest
taxpayer
since
1950.
D
Meaningful
impact
to
us
will
not
only
continue
to
see
that
revenue
and
deliver
power
to
this
particular.
This
NEMA
market,
which
is
in
high
demand,
but
also
have
a
mix,
juice
opportunities,
maximize
the
commercial
port
that
was
there
to
have
a
coal
ship
coming
in
in
its
heyday.
Maybe
once
a
week
it
brought
:
and
to
think
about
what
it
means
to
us
now,
not
only
cruise
ships
visiting
vessels
some
bit
of
a
working
waterfront
in
terms
of
fishing
expeditions
and
the
like
water
taxi
service.
D
It's
way
more
valuable
to
us
now
and
it's
not
even
fully
tapped
yet
so
in
some
respects,
we're
not
having
the
large-scale
development.
That's
limiting
some
of
our
economic
opportunities,
we're
seeing
leather
factories,
old
junkyards
power
plants
turning
themselves
and
blossom
into
what's
next,
and
for
us,
that's
mixed-use,
we're
not
the
Gold.
D
Coast
Salem
was
the
place
where
I
think
it
ended
up
with
the
poorer
community
at
the
time
that
ended
up
with
power
plants
and
industrial
uses
and
sword's
districts,
and
now
we're
starting
to
see
that
really
opening
up
Salem
State's
cat,
Cove
lonely
laboratory
is
there
as
well
and
more
public
access.
I.
Think
it's
something
to
be
mindful
of
the
gentrification
for
sure
the
waterfront
played
that
prominent
role
in
the
characterization
of
Salem.
You
had
sea
captain's
mansions
around
the
corner
from
tenement
houses
where
folks
who
worked
on
those
docks
live.
D
F
This
is
a
complicated
one
because
of
what
I
mentioned
the
very
beginning.
Much
of
the
development
that
happened
on
the
waterfront
was
already
built,
but
time
I
got
here
and
it
was
been
built
over
the
last
thirty
years.
I
remember,
working
in
downtown
and
when
Rosa
Wharf
was
built,
which
was
a
great
building
at
the
time,
was
built
right
on
the
ocean.
F
There's
not
a
lot
of
space,
so
I
think
one
of
the
areas
we
have
to
look
at
in
the
city
is
the
Flynn
Industrial
Park
and
how
we
plan
that
out
for
the
future
to
make
sure
that
access
to
the
waterfront
stays
there
and
if
we
can
tie
it
into
a
larger
resiliency
conversation
plan
about
sea
walls
and
an
open
space
along
the
Inner
Harbor,
and
how
we
do
that.
How
that
would
end
up
being
at
some
point.
F
How
does
it
all
tie
in
I
think
that
that's
what
we
have
to
do
and
then
tie
it
all
in
together
the
gentrification
piece
you
know
in
the
supports
of
waterfront,
it
didn't
exist
20
years
ago.
These
are
mostly
new
neighbors
that
came
in
here
and
lived
here
and
paying
$2
dollars
a
square
foot
much
of
what's
that
high,
but
paying
a
lot
of
money
for
it.
Some
places
it
is
identification.
F
Concern
is
what's
happening
in
the
kick
neighborhoods,
as
people
start
to
get
pushed
off
of
the
borders,
like
Kim
said
in
in
Salem
being
pushed
out
of
Salem
I'm
concerned
about
people
being
pushed
from.
You
know
the
stop
Boston
residents
and
to
Dorchester
into
Braintree
and
and
new
people
coming
in
and
not
being
able
to
create
opportunities
for
people
to
live.
F
It's
a
whole
separate
conversation,
but
a
housing
plan
is
pretty
aggressive
to
create
50,000
units
to
new
housing
by
the
year
2030
to
allow
the
people
who
live
in
this
city
to
stay
in
the
city
and
will
also
regionally.
This
is
a
separate
conversation
but
regionally
working
with
the
cities
and
towns
in
the
Greater
Boston
area,
I
think
they're
about
three
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
units
of
housing.
It
needs
to
be
built
in
the
next
20
years
to
keep
up
with
the
growth.
E
We're
in
a
little
different
place,
I
think
in
both
communities
trying
to
get
the
open
space.
As
Kim
said
the
you
know,
the
waterfront
was
all
blocked
off.
We
had
a
landfill
on
our
waterfront,
and
really
it
is
the
300
acres.
Probably
that
are
not
really
open
yet
400,
so
part
of
it
is
creating
that
open
space
and
we're
working
on
that.
Creating
the
public
access,
I
think
the
bigger
challenge
as
we
to
look
for
development,
which
we
need
and
on
the
tax
base
and
market
rate
which
we
need
is
its.
E
How
do
you
make
sure
that
there's
the
housing
issue
was
addressed
in
a
way
that
all
may
all
levels
of
income
can
can
share
in
the
growth
and
the
upgrade
of
our
community?
But
just
and
support
Li
know
that
they're
not
getting
pushed
out
and
it
really
isn't
just
a
linear,
salient
issue,
a
Boston
issue.
It
really
is
a
regional
issue,
and
so
we
needed
you
know.
E
As
we
look
at
the
development
of
our
waterfront
and
those
opportunities,
we
need
to
understand
how
we
can
create
those
access
points
for
people
and
of
all
levels
of
income
to
continue
to
live
in
the
communities
that
they
want
to
live
in
and
I.
We
have
a
six-lane
Road
and
in
in
the
Lynn
way
that
kind
of
blocks
access
to
what
waterfront.
E
Some
of
the
open
space
and
really
the
mixed-use
that
I
think
is,
is
the
key
to
what
we
need
to
do
on
a
want
to
front,
as
well
as,
as
I
said,
before,
a
little
bit
of
a
working
waterfront
commercial
restaurants,
shops
boardwalk,
open
space
fluting
space,
but
that
the
whole
community
could
chairman.
So
it's.
It
is
a
complex
issue,
and
it's
it's.
How
do
you
create
the
right
development
that
brings
value
to
the
community
that
needs
it,
and
how
do
you
continue
to
value
the
everybody
in
the
community?
F
Or
two
you
know:
we're
gonna
have
to
be,
and
also
planning
we're
looking
at
the
northern
that
bridge
right
now.
Rebuilding,
though
in
that
bridge
and
in
that
bridge,
it
used
to
be
a
bridge
to
move
people
and
cars
across
we're
really
looking
at
opportunities
to
open
access
to
the
water.
There
too,
because
there's
two
sides
of
that
bridge
that
could
we
could
do
something
spectacular
there
that
could
allow
access
to
the
water,
so
I
think
any
place
that
we
can
get
access
to
the
water
and
and
eventually
to
tie
it
all
in
I.
F
C
Well,
thank
you.
Oh
I'm,
gonna
open
it
up
and
mayor
Walsh,
you
just
let
us
know
when
you
have
to
scoot
and
know
so
now,
I'm,
not
sure
whether
we
had
questions
that
have
been
gathered
or
we're
just
gonna.
Take
them
as
hands.
Go
up,
looks
like
it's.
My
choice
as
hands
go
up
right
up
here.
Please
tell
us
who
you
are
and
where
you're,
where
you
live
or
work,
or
both.
H
Car
off
the
road
reduce
the
parking
demand,
I
suggested.
A
lot
could
be
done
to
reduce
traffic
load
by
making
Boston
more
motorcycle
friendly
in
terms
of
adapting
parking
spaces
that
are
not
usable
for
cars
to
make
them
specifically
designated
for
motorcycles
and
therefore
reduce
the
traffic
demand
on
the
roadways.
Okay,.
F
That's
a
great
point:
I
have
no
idea
how
many
Co,
how
many
spots
we
have
for
motorcycles.
I
see
Chris
Osgood
behind.
If
you,
if
you
know
any
Chris,
we
don't,
we
don't
have
the
cross
city.
So
your
answer
is
absolutely
something
that
we
will
look
at
Chris.
Wragge
good
is
my
chief
of
streets
he's
sitting
right
behind
you
and
we
will
take
that
point
back
good.
I
C
E
Viable
we're
about
three
or
four
or
five
minutes
of
open
water.
Once
you
get
outside
the
harbor
I
think
you
look
at
it
in
terms
of
what
Hingham
and
how
they're
doing
I
think
absolutely
it
can
happen.
We
had
the
the
son
of
the
person
who
created
the
New
York
waterways,
what
a
transportation
system
and
they
run
out
the
end
of
Manhattan
and
they
run
in
pretty
rough
water.
If
you
think
about
it
and
I
asked
him
point-blank
when
he
came
to
Lynn
can
can
we
run
a
year-round
service.
E
I
have
always
believed
it
if
he
got
the
right
vessels
and
he
said
no
reason,
you
can't
be
running
year-round,
so
I
think
there's
more
opportunity
for
year-round.
I
think
you
know,
Kim
they've
stretched
it
out
a
little
bit
in
the
fall
and
the
spring
there's
definitely
times
you
can
run
it
so
I
think
no
question.
You
could
have
year-round
service
I,
really
believe
we
could
match
the
Hingham
service.
E
If
we
did
it
right
with
the
right
prices
with
the
right
advertising,
you
would
have
that
kind
of
opportunity
and
I
we
haven't
mentioned
it,
but
nineteen.
Ninety
eight
percent
on-time
service
is
98
percent
on
time
during
during
major
snowstorms.
If
it's
not
a
northeast
and
the
roads
are
completely
clogged
up,
there's
no
allowing
on
the
waterways
unless
the
hob
is
freeze
up
so
I,
absolutely
around
service
from
Lynn
and
I
think
what
the
key
would
be
and
then
I
think
Maudie.
E
E
E
You
can
can
use
your
laptop
and
you
have
a
safe
and
uncomfortable
ride
and
I'll
just
leave
you
with
this
antidote,
my
wife
works
and
in
Southwest,
and
so
she's
been
listening
for
eighteen
or
twenty
years
about
ferry
service
has
her
own
parking
spot.
The
air
and
fee
is
I,
won't
be
taking
the
ferry.
I
have
my
own
parking
spots.
She
started
taking
the
ferry
realized
wow.
This
is
way
better.
She
was
on.
She
was
on
the
ferry
service.
E
Was
it
last
year
or
anyway,
the
year
whatever
was
and
the
ferry
that
that
day
was
unavailable
for
so
they
brought
in
a
much
smaller
ferry.
It
was
really
rough
day.
She's
texted
me
I,
think
I
hope
I
make
it
back
the
book
she
has
were
flying
around
and
I
said
when
I
saw
her
later
on.
I
said
how
were
the
rest
of
people
on
the
boat?
She
said
nobody
seem
fazed
at
all
by
it.
I
was
the
only
one
that
seemed
concerned,
so
the
points
well-taken
people
know
they
can
depend
on
it.
E
D
I
mean
I
think
for
us
to
go
all
year
would
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult.
The
size
of
the
boat
then
start
to
drive
down
the
economics
to
address
some
of
the
open
water,
but
I
can
tell
you
the
happiest
day
of
the
year
for
Salem.
Commuters
is
when
the
ferry
starts
and
the
saddest
is
October
31st
when
it
ends
they
actually
have
a
reunion
in
February
to
get
ready
for
it.
D
I
mean
people
are
fans
of
the
boats
and,
if
you've
taken
it
in
you,
you
can't
be
in
a
bad
mood
when
you
get
off
the
boat,
it's
just
something
about
the
waterfront
and
bringing
you
in.
So
when
it's
late,
it's
less
of
a
problem
and
it's
it's
just
a
terrific
resource,
but
for
us
would
be
a
little
more
difficult.
Barry.
J
C
There's
a
question
very
close
to
my
heart
since
I
have
a
boat
right
out
of
here
on
Long
Wharf,
but
it's
basically
just
to
repeat
for
the
audience.
What's
the
role
of
recreational
boating
and
you
know
it's:
is
it
a
stimulus
to
our
economy
and
what
sort
of
opportunities
can
we
provide
going
forward
to
expand
it
and
enhance
it
in
our.
D
Harbors
I
mean
we
see
a
growth
opportunity
in
Salem
for
sure
trying
to
provide
additional
dingy
docks,
transients,
lips.I
opportunities
to
both
market
to
boaters.
The
boating
community
is
Salem
as
a
destination,
whether
it's
per
day
or
overnight.
Trips
I
can't
speak
to
the
Boston
Harbor
Islands
as
much
I've
been
there.
I
think
they're,
beautiful
and
there's
definitely
some
opportunities,
but
on
our
end
it
ties
in
perfectly
with
the
tourism
and
the
shopping
and
the
dining
that
we're
trying
to
create
in
terms
of
a
downtown
activity.
It.
F
F
I
know
the
Boston
Harbor
Group
committee
would
love
to
see
more
people
using
the
Boston
Harbor
Islands
going
and
visiting
and
docking
and
going
out
there
spectacle
Island
there's
a
shop
out
there
beautiful
you
can
go
up
to
the
top
and
see
beautiful
views
of
the
city,
and
you
can
see
beautiful
use
of
Cohasset
in
Quincy
in
other
places.
So
I
think
there's
no
question
about
it.
F
I
think
that
the
boaters
know
about
it,
but
I
think
there's
probably
there's
probably
an
opportunity
for
people
to
come
in
from
outside
of
visiting
Boston
I'm,
not
even
sure
where
they
go
to
rent
boats
for
the
day,
but
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
for
people
to
go
out
and
clm.
Boston
Harbor
obviously
has
a
incredible
rich
history
and
it's
a
beautiful
Harbor
and.
E
I
same
thing
with
Lynn
I
think
there's
a
great
opportunity.
We
look
right
out
at
the
Boston
Harbor
Islands
from
from
our
waterfront.
We
do
have
several
marinas
one
city-owned
two
that
are
privately
owned,
that
they're
all
filfil
and
I
think
there's
just
as
we
continue
to
enhance
our
Harbor
and
and
take
more
opportunity
we're
actually
in
the
process
of
working
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
to
dredge
from
the
gas
tank.
E
If
anybody
knows
Lin
Hobbit
up
to
the
Saugus
river,
which
will
even
give
more
access
once
we
do
that
and
we're
thinking,
it's
gonna
happen.
They
will
and
they'll
maintain
it
in
perpetuity.
So
we
will
really
start
to
enhance
our
ability
to
be
more
of
a
harbor
and
I.
Think
the
the
getting
a
chance
to
use.
That
kind
of
you
know,
sailing
and
pleasure
craft
coming
and
going
out
of
Linn
would
be
absolutely
an
economic
driver
and
an
enhancement
of
what
we
have
in
our
community.
D
E
Point
I
think
that's
a
little
off
to
this
track,
but
there's
there's
no
real
access
points
to
the
Boston
Harbor
Islands
north
of
Boston,
so
Lynn
and
Salem
in
other
places
that
I
think
there's
a
no-brainer
I
mean
like
I
said
you
can
almost
reach
out
and
touch
him
from
Lynn
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community
that
aren't
gonna,
be
traveling
to
the
Cape
or
other
way
other
places.
But
for
a
day
on
the
islands
it
would
be
a
great
access
for
someone
have
a
really
enjoyable
day
or
throughout
the
summer.
E
F
K
K
K
When
John
barrows
ran
for
mayor
of
Mayor,
Walsh
I
think
he
said
he
didn't
really
see
the
harbor
until
he
was
something
like
12
or
15
years
old,
and
you
know
I
got
to
do
the
suit
to
clean
up
Boston
Harbor
in
the
80s
and
the
Big
Dig
to
take
down
the
artery
and
in
the
90s.
So
anything
I
can
do
here
with
Governor
Baker,
otherwise
I'm
there
with
bells
on
no
charge.
Thank
you.
J
C
I'll
paraphrase
this
for
the
audience
and
give
you
all
another
chance
to
think
about
it
and
I.
Think
Peters
question
is,
you
know,
should
we
be
looking
to
some
really
ambitious
Harbor
wide
barrier
stretching
from
where
to
where
swamps
it
to
Cohasset
14
miles
and
I'm
very
familiar
that
there
with
a
barrier
study,
that's
underway
by
UMass
Boston,
that's
gonna
be
coming
out
next
week,
but
does
anybody
want
to
comment
on
this.
F
F
The
brunt
of
the
cost
I
mean
I
know
the
federal
government
doesn't
have
this
state
government
doesn't
have
that
type
of
money
to
make
that
type
of
a
spend
I'm
out
speak
for
the
state
in
this
one,
because
we're
both
former
legislators
I
just
think
that
in
lieu
of
that
we
look
at
it,
but
I
think
I
still
think
we
have
to
be
creative
and
how
we
look
at
other
ways
of
protections
for
a
harbor
and
I
know
you're
talking
about
the
life
on
the
harbor.
It's
it
completely
in
a
little
different
situation.
There
yeah.
C
Just
to
follow
up
mayor,
Walsh
I
think
the
studies
that
the
city
has
done
in
partnership
with
the
Green
Ribbon
Commission
and
others
Seaport
East
Boston
Charlestown,
is
at
least
given
me
a
lot
of
confidence
that
there's
a
lot
we
can
do
along
the
Inner
Harbor.
You
know
at
least
a
sort
of
three
to
five
feet
of
sea
level
rise
that
we
can
provide
a
great
deal
of
protection
and
in
a
way,
that
also
will
provide
tremendous
Co
benefits
to
the
communities
around
the
city.
So
I
apologize.
G
B
E
You
know,
there's
different
places
in
Florida,
I
think
San,
Francisco,
there's
other
places
that
you
know
we
don't
I,
think
embrace
being
outside
as
much
as
we
can
in
other
areas.
But
you
know
it,
you
know
it
is
something
that
I
think
other
parts
of
the
country
of
use.
Baltimore
has
really
taken
advantage
of
of
the
waterfront
and
creating
like
a
really
vibrant
scene
down
on
the
waterfront,
so
I
think
it's.
E
The
piece
is
not
just
right
on
the
water
but
the
open
space
pod
and
having
a
place
that
that
really
is
great
I
mean
you
know,
I
say
from
if
you're
looking,
if
you're
not
from
Boston,
we
were
the
really
good
locations
to
sit
on
the
water
and
enjoy
kind
of
being
on
the
water.
A
mission
on
the
bay
is
up
in
swamps.
Kid
I
think
what
they've
done
in
Gloucester
at
the
boat
boy
hotel
is
something
where
they
really
took
advantage
of
a
location
that
was
a
you
know:
fish
for
five
fish
fact.
E
E
L
Is
there
gonna
be
any
collaboration
or
partnership
since
theories,
and
that
has
been
established,
which
is
the
u.s.
engagement
act
in
which
we
can
partner
as
a
region
to
look
at
how
transportation?
Because
you
know
the
Grenadines
and
BPI
strives
on
transportation,
water
transportation
with
him,
so
that
one
aspect,
if
we
can
partner,
look
from
birth,
both
perspective
of
mass
and
region,
what
we
have
done
well
and
what
we
are
not
done
well
to
increase
this
economic
growth
here,
because
I
would
love
to
see
more
water
taxi
back
and
forth.
L
So
hopefully
you
will
be
considering
that
also
in
terms
of
climate
change
and
the
Hurricanes
ain't
going
away,
you're
getting
bigger.
Also,
we
see
they're
moving,
not
so
some
kind
of
partnership
in
terms
of
studies
for
now
you
know
it
kind
of
like
us
here,
also
in
Massachusetts
sea
level,
rise
and
so
forth.
I
hope
that
is
being
considered
in
terms
of
strengthening
that
partnership
with
the
region
in
terms
of
studies
and
so
forth.
So.
C
The
question
was:
do
we
need
to
take
a
fact-finding
trip
to
the
Virgin
Islands
and
grenadine
in
November
in
November,
I?
Think
more
seriously,
you
know.
Maybe
we
should
just
ask
sort
of
collaboration
on
issues
like
climate
change
and
sea
level
rise.
There's
them
metro,
mayor's
coalition
here
in
Boston.
What
other
ways
are
you
all
talking
and
working
with
each
other
on
this
very
important
issue?
All.
E
Speak
to
the
water
transportation
piece,
we've
created
the
water
transportation,
Advisory
Council,
which
kind
of
started
off
with
the
water
very
compact
under
the
past
administration
and
and
it's
gotten.
What
it's
been
able
to
do
is
get
all
of
the
players
around
the
table.
Both
the
elected
officials
and
others
I
think
that's
really
been.
E
I
think
that's
one
example
of
what
has
worked
or
is
starting
to
work,
because
you
know
I
think
we
realized
that
it
can't
be
one
community
against
the
other,
but
regionally
we
really
have
the
impact
and
and
I
think
that
recognition
is
coming
as
we
continue
to
meet.
It's
not
just
our
parochial
interest
of
our
community,
but
we
really
do
I
think
have
a
chance
and
we
feel
that
and
Kim.
You
can
speak
to
that.
I
think
when
we're
on
the
table
we're
thinking
collectively.
E
How
can
we
advance
the
agenda
we
believe
in
for
the
region
and
knowing
that
it
will
it'll
benefit
all
of
us.
So
that's
that's
been
something
that
I
think
has
been
successful
and
we're
looking
to
see
that
that
growing
build-
and
it
probably
is
a
similar
in
a
similar
way
getting
people
around
the
table
on
on
resilient
resiliency
and
climate
change
and
other
issues
that
we
are
trying
to
address
locally.
But
in
reality
we
need
to
address
regionally
now.
D
I
just
add
to
that
absolutely
I
think
the
North
Shore
in
particular.
We
value
the
ability
to
get
from
one
place
to
the
other
within
our
region,
so
there's
definitely
folks
commuting
into
Boston,
but
there
are
people
spending
time
criss-crossing
where
they
live,
where
they
work,
where
they
go
to
school
and
I.
Think
there's
a
real,
collegial.
A
sense
of
collegial
ism
among
the
leaders
within
the
North
Shore
I
want
drawn
Linlin
wants
a
strong
Salem.
We
want
Beverly,
be
successful,
there's
so
much
opportunity
to
build
a
network
around
where
people
want
to
go
there.
D
Many
communities
who
aren't
here
tonight
have
Gloucester
Quincy.
We
could
go
on
Plymouth,
P
town,
the
water
transportation
advisory
panel
that
that
Senator
Magee
led
me
making
sure
it
was
created,
so
we
can
think
about
doing
it,
smartly
and
the
work
of
Boston
Harbor.
Now
the
hope
is
they
come
together
to
really
talk
about
this.
Not
as
one
offs
I
have
a
ferry.
You
have
a
ferry
Winthrop
as
a
ferry,
but
a
network,
a
real
network
of
transportation,
alternatives
that
we
can
build
off.
Of
that
we
can
have
data.
We
can
collect
that.
D
That
during
Carnival,
preferably
but
it's
a
necessity
on
the
islands
right,
that's
just
how
you
get
from
one
place.
We
don't
have
that
same
sense
of
urgency,
but
honestly
we're
getting
there.
Anyone
who
was
driving
in
a
car,
I
work
and
live
in
the
same
community
I
feel
blessed
because
the
times
I
do
have
to
come
into
Boston.
Whatever
time
of
day
it
is
it's
unbelievable.
It's
no
quality
of
life,
and
that
is
beginning
to
impact
economics
and
that's
going
to
impact
housing.
D
C
Know
I'm
joking
a
bit
about
the
fact-finding
trips,
but
it's
really
important
and
really
a
good
thing
to
do
to
go.
Look
at
other
cities.
The
green
ribbon
commission
that
I'm
on
took
a
public
officials
from
Boston
to
Copenhagen
and
Amsterdam
two
years
ago
to
look
at
how
they
plan
their
cities
and
how
they
move
about
town
Amsterdam's
climate
is
almost
the
same
as
Boston.
It's
pretty
harsh
on
the
North
Sea
45%
of
the
people
commute
by
bicycle
every
day
of
the
year.
C
M
D
In
Salem
we're
definitely
identifying
what
we
call
safe
Anchorage
so
for
for
transient,
moorings
and
trying
to
identify
transient
slips
in
some
ways.
Some
of
the
permitting
can
work
against
that
some
of
the
areas
where
you
have
DPAs.
They
don't
allow
necessarily
the
recreational
boating
uses.
So
it's
trying
to
flip
that
a
little
and
find
those
areas
and
with
the
water
transportation,
we
also
have
a
bike
sharing
once
folks
get
there.
So
we
want
to
also
have
our
little
interests.
City
network
there'll
be
more
this
season.
D
We
hope
to
build
off
of
that
as
we
look
at
additional
dredging
and
opportunities
to
find
places
for
the
boating
community
to
come,
because
we
do
value
it
as
a
real
relationship
builder
as
a
place
that
attracts
millions
of
tourists
a
year.
This
is
one
component
where
we
see
there's
a
lot
of
area
for
growth
and.
E
It's
it's
not
really.
Lin
is
not
at
that
point,
as
Salem
is,
but
I
think
one
of
the
big
never
really
talked
about
it,
but
wit
of
the
ferries
go
where
the
locations
where
the
wharf
locations,
where
is
the
pleasure
craft
opportunities?
Where
was
the
connection
with
the
restaurants,
are
popping
up
right
on
the
water,
as
the
question
was
asked,
so
how
do
people
get
to
those
bring
their
boats
in
and
get
to
those
spots?
So
that's
I
think
part
of
the
larger
planning
not
only
in
our
communities
but
I.
E
C
And
it's
a
great
question:
I
know
in
Boston
Harbor
here,
I
think
the
only
place
where
you
can
really
do
that
is
Liberty
Wharf.
Where
there
are,
you
know
three
or
four
restaurants,
but
it's
a
big
need
to
have
more
sorts
of
places
where
we
can.
People
can
can
arrive
by
boat
and
have
a
good
time
and
then
take
off
so
I
think
we're
gonna
end
up
on
wrap-up.
On
that
note,
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
Kathy.
C
B
So
I'll
add
my
thanks
to
the
mayors
and
Mayor
Walsh
and
in
absentia
and
I
really
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
coming
out,
as
I
said
on
the
Thursday
night
before
Memorial
Day
weekend.
Obviously,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
care
about
the
Harbor
about
the
waterfront,
about
the
islands
and
about
seeing
what
we
can
do
with
those
so
next
week.
May
30th
is
the
second
piece
of
this
event
and
that's
the
Boston
Harbor
for
all
it'll,
be
from
8:30
to
6
o'clock.
The
morning
is
towards
the
afternoon
is
workshops.
B
We
hope
you
will
all
come
out
to
that
to
participate
in
the
next
level
of
this.
This
is
something
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
over
the
course
of
the
year
and
we'll
be
doing
it
with
our
partners.
Our
other
nonprofit
partners
for
profit
partners,
government
agencies,
public
officials
and
the
like
so
but
but
the
public,
the
general
public
is
probably
one
of
is
the
most
important
part
of
the
equation.