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From YouTube: Clean Energy Panel Moderated by Mindy Lubber
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Mayor Walsh welcomes mayors across the country and abroad for an International Mayors Climate Summit hosted at Boston University. The summit will focus on actions being taken by mayors to address climate change globally and in their own communities
A
I'm
gonna
dig
in
a
very
quick
context,
but
I
think
we
got
a
brilliant
context
by
President,
Brown
and
Mayor
Walsh,
in
that
we
are
dealing
with
an
existential
threat
that
threat,
whether
you're,
a
Republican
or
a
Democrat,
or
whether
you
live
in
Beijing
or
in
Salt
Lake
City.
That
threat
involves
us
all.
There
is
no
running
from
it.
There
are
environmental
and
other
problems
that
a
unique
to
one
part
of
the
world,
but
not
to
another
climate
change,
not
so
much.
A
It
impacts
all
of
us
and
what
we
do
in
Boston
has
an
impact
on
Rio
de
Janeiro
and
what
happens
in
Cape
Town
next
week
will
have
an
impact
on
Beijing
because
of
the
collective
nature
of
greenhouse
gases
and
how
they
come.
So
we've
got
a
problem.
I
think
there's
room
for
lots
of
optimism,
which
is
not
to
say
this
problem
is
not
an
existential
threat
getting
through
the
two-degree
goal,
the
so-called
North
Star,
of
what
the
Paris
agreement
calls
on
us
to
do.
A
195
countries
agreeing
to
do
that
will
leave
the
United
States
action
behind,
because
I
believe
we
could
get
there
with
or
without
the
president
being
signed
on
to
it.
If
we
see
the
kind
of
progress
we're
seeing
in
the
private
sector
at
the
federal
level,
maybe
not
as
much
here
right
now
at
the
state
levels
and
at
the
municipal
levels,
so
the
opportunities
are
as
strong
as
the
risks
as
clear
is
the
risks
and
that
we're
gonna
dig
in
a
bit
more
about
that
cities
and
I.
A
Don't
need
to
tell
you
because
you
are
working
in
cities
you're,
leading
cities.
Cities
are
where
the
rubber
hits
the
road
go
to
Miami
Beach
and
walk
down
the
streets.
When
there
is
a
rainstorm
right
now
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
mega
storm
or
a
hundred
year.
Storm
will
see,
flooding
will
see,
impacts
every
day,
go
to
Houston
where
we
saw
what
happened
last
fall
or
Puerto
Rico
the
places
that
have
been
devastated.
They
are
our
cities
mm-hmm
and
within
them.
A
What's
going
on,
the
impacts
are
at
the
city
level,
so
there
is
no
better
place,
no
more
imperative
place,
no
more
essential
place
than
to
dig
in
and
look
at
the
risks
to
be
sure,
and
we
heard
a
little
bit
about
them,
but
to
really
dig
in
on
the
opportunities.
How
do
we
go
with
these
problems?
How
do
these
problems
get
addressed
not
only
in
a
way
that
addresses
climate
change
but
addresses
redeveloping
those
cities
addresses
jobs
and
the
economy
and
how
to
make
lemonade
at
a
lemon
and
how
to
build
opportunities
out
of
risk?
A
Let
me
quickly
introduce
them
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
pages
of
BIOS
I'd
rather
hear
them
talk
about
what
they're
doing,
but
we
have
mayor
Jacobi
scoopski
from
Salt
Lake
City.
It's
a
perfect
example.
She'll
tell
you
what
she's
doing
but
to
negate
this
that
only
people
on
the
East,
Coast
and
West
Coast,
and
maybe
those
Europeans
care
about
climate
change.
Last
I
checked,
Salt
Lake
City
was
somewhere
other
than
the
east
coast
or
the
west
coast
she's
a
hero.
A
She
is
doing
extraordinary
things
and
she'll
tell
us
about
them
as
well
as
Mayor,
James,
Palmer
I.
Think
we'll
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
how
you
build
cities,
how
you
think
about
this
smartly
economics,
transportation,
energy
as
well
as
perhaps
get
a
sense
of
the
commitment
that
I
find
Europeans,
bring
to
this
discussion
that
sometimes
I
don't
see
everywhere
across
our
United
States.
A
The
third
is
Eric
Simon
from
GE
solar
who
could
look
and
talk
about
what
they're
doing
with
one
municipality
after
the
next
small
cities
and
big
cities
alike
in
different
places
to
create
energy
that
is
viable
and
sustainable
and
to
build
jobs
at
the
same
time
and
then
be
use
very
own
Cutler
Cleveland,
who
is
a
true
expert
in
renewable
energy
and
will
fill
in
on
how
we
take
advantage
of
these
opportunities
we're
hearing
about.
So
let's
quickly
go
to
the
leader
from
Salt
Lake
City.
B
Things
are
going
very
well
for
us
in
Salt,
Lake
City,
but
we've
had
to
really
take
a
hard
look.
We
are
a
community
that
is
warming
at
twice
the
global
rate
we've
lost
about
five
weeks
of
our
snowpack
every
year
that
we
rely
on
for
water.
Our
city
is
about
two
hundred
thousand
people,
but
we
supply
water
for
about
a
million
people
in
the
valley.
So
we
have
a
heavy
responsibility
and
we
take
that
very
seriously.
I
do
live
in
a
very
politically
divided
community.
B
The
city
itself
is
very
strong
and
doing
the
work
to
support
the
Paris
agreement.
The
state
is
in
a
different
state
of
mind
and
there's
a
lot
of
chipping
away.
That
has
to
happen
for
us
to
be
here
usually
successful,
but
the
city
is
leading
the
way
on
a
continuous
level
to
show
the
states
that
not
only
can
we
take
the
right
steps
today,
but
you
can
do
it
affordably
that
it
makes
sense
that
the
science
is
there
and
you
can't
ignore
the
science
any
longer
so.
A
B
Yeah
we
will
meet
those
for
sure
we
built
when
I
first
came
into
office,
which
was
in
2016
I
built
a
very
strong
working
relationship
with
Rocky
Mountain
Power,
which
is
a
subsidiary
of
Pacific
or
Berkshire.
Halfway
and-
and
we
sat
down
and
in
my
first
six
months,
brokered
an
unprecedented
agreement
to
reach
our
goals
of
being
a
hundred
percent
renewable
by
2032
to
make
sure
that
city
government
itself
is
50
percent
running
on
renewable
energy
by
2020.
Those
goals
are
on
line
and
we
are
on
task
and
we
are
going
to
meet
those
goals.
B
We
also
will
reduce
our
carbon
emissions
by
80
percent
by
2040
and
we
created
the
timeline
and
the
pathway.
It's
called
climate
positive.
If
you
want
to
look
it
up,
but
it's
been
a
remarkable
experience,
working
with
Rocky,
Mountain,
Power
and
and
because
of
the
work
we
were
doing.
Other
communities
in
the
state
latched
on
to
those
same
goals,
and
so
now
you
have
Park
City
and
Moab
and
Summit
County
all
having
those
same
goals
following
our
lead
and
the
agreements
needed
to
get
there.
B
So
it's
really
the
partnership
that
we
have
been
able
to
develop.
We've
worked
with
Rocky
Mountain
Power,
we've
not
told
them
how
to
get
us
there.
They
are
they
experts,
but
we
said
these
are
our
goals.
These
are
the
timelines.
This
is
what
we're
looking
at.
Can
we
meet
these
and
we're
getting
very
good
agreements
in
place
and
we're
holding
each
other
accountable
to
doing
our
part
and
the
city
is
very
invested,
so
we
are
a
city
where
we
have
the
first
public
safety
building
in
the
country
that
is
Net
Zero.
B
A
B
A
From
the
ground
up
or
ECC
easy
earth
not
easy,
yeah,
then
the
older
buildings,
but
how
extraordinary
has
it'll
s?
Let's
go
across
the
pond
for
a
minute,
since
sometimes
people
think
cities
are
different,
whether
they're
in
Europe
or
whether
they're
in
the
United
States.
Of
course,
we
know
they're
not,
but
mayor
Palmer
from
Cambridgeshire
tell
us
how
you're
thinking
about
building
accommodating
the
growth
of
your
communities
around
you
that
you're
responsible
for
and
how
do
you
do
that
in
a
way
that
is
consistent
with
addressing
climate
change?
Just.
C
Like
decison
actually
privileged
to
be
here
in
Boston's,
first
time,
I've
been
and
what
a
city
is
so
my
challenge
is
I'm,
not
a
city.
Man
I'm
slightly
different
I've
got
a
region
around
a
million
people,
but
in
there
in
that
region
or
two
of
the
top
five
fastest
gray
cities
in
the
UK,
one
of
which
cambridge
UK
is
is
growing
exponentially
but
is
is
surrounded
by
very
strictly
controlled
Greenbelt,
which
stops
stops
or
stops
it
from
going
out.
C
So
my
challenge,
the
challenge
that
government
gave
me
when
I
was
elected
last
year
in
the
mayor
of
chemistry
and
peterborough,
is,
amongst
other
things,
to
build
an
extra
hundred
thousand
new
homes.
But,
of
course,
like
every
growing
city
park,
every
successful
city
and
successful
economy
we
have.
We
have
massive
problems
with
transport
infrastructure.
There's
been
very
little
investment
over
the
last
30
40
years
into
our
area
from
national
government
or
from
local
government,
and
so
the
whole
thing
is
creaking
as
it
is.
C
C
So
the
challenge
is
to
make
sure
that
in
putting
in
world-class
infrastructure,
now
that
we
make
it
as
as
attractive
to
use
as
possible,
whilst
at
the
same
time
as
clean
to
the
environment
as
it
can
possibly
be,
and
that
and
that's
that's
the
biggest
the
biggest
issue.
So
it's
not
just
putting
in
an
electric
railway
or
Metro
rechargeable
metro,
whichever
one
we
end
up.
Choosing
it's
making
sure
that
the
infrastructure
around
that
is
not
attracting
masses
of
cars
to
come
in
to
then
feed
into
the
system.
C
So,
quite
the
traditional
way
of
delivering
infrastructure
in
the
UK
zones.
It's
exactly
the
same
here.
I'm
not
sure,
is
where
there's
a
station,
usually
there's
a
big
car
park
and
where
you
have
a
big
car
park,
you
create
traffic
problems
and
and
if
you
could
have
put
enough
in
our
case
an
extra
hundred
a
thousand
homes
in
there,
then
those
problems
are
just
couldn't
go
to
get
great,
so
we're
looking
at
thinking
from
we've
borrowed
stuff
from
all
over
the
world.
C
One
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
is
is
an
idea
that
come
from
Holland,
which
is
hybrid
oriented,
transport,
h.o.t
and
and
the
research
there
is
shown
that
people
will
cycle
and
they
like
to
cycle,
but
they
won't
cycle
more
than
four
miles.
So
if
you
put
cycle
routes
that
spread
out
for
miles
from
your
stations,
you
don't
put
car
parks
there.
The
only
the
only
real
option
of
them
to
get
there
is
to
cycle,
or
the
other
option
is
public
transport
and
the
other
thing
that
we're
looking
at
rather
with
buses.
C
Rather
than
buses
going
from
point
A
out
in
the
countryside
into
the
center
of
the
city,
we
want
the
buses
to
actually
link
into
the
stations
rather
than
rather
than
try
and
all
cram
everything
into
the
city
of
Cambridge.
So
it
is
the
vision
that
takes
advantage
of
the
newest
technology
and
we're
quite
well-placed
to
do
that,
because
our
brilliant
technology
in
science
industries
are
feeding
feeding
us
with
the
information.
We
need,
the
data
we
need
and
the
skill
set
to
put
in
infrastructure,
and
not
just
last.
C
That
will
not
just
provide
healthy
and
clean
way
of
getting
into
work,
but
also
will
help
us
deliver
the
housing
that
we
need
to
feed
our
economy
and,
of
course,
they're
very
important
to
make
sure
that
housing
is
good.
There's
also
thoroughly
thought
through
in
the
same
way,
with
the
same
mindset,
great.
A
Let
me
follow
up
just
with
one
question
and
we'll
get
into
it
even
a
bit
more
later.
That's
a
great
plan.
It's
a
brilliant
plan.
Do
you
have
the
support
of
the
federal
government
or
the
equivalent
thereof
in
England
the
private
sector,
those
who
are
building
the
buildings,
those
who
were
building
the
transport,
not
only
technologically,
but
that
is
the
right
technology,
but
the
right
financial
support
to
make
sure
you
could
do
what?
Actually
you
must
do
and
we're
going
to
all
look
to
you
to
create
that
model.
Well,
I
think.
C
In
my
case,
I
can't
look
to
the
government
to
give
me
the
money
to
do
it
because
they
will
not
spend
their
money
in
the
relatively
wealthy
least.
They
tend
to
spend
their
money
in
in
the
less
well-off,
north
and
middle
of
the
country.
So
if
I'm
going
to
expect
government
to
hand
me
three
and
a
half
four
billion
pounds
to
build
the
system
out
as
well
whistle,
it's
not
going
to
happen
so
I
have
to
be
creative
in
how
I
find
the
finance
and
because
we're
building
out
in
the
countryside.
C
If
I
cap,
the
value
of
the
land
and
sell
market
homes
on
that
land,
I,
the
uplift
in
the
value
of
the
land
over
a
40-year
period
can
create
three
to
five
billion
pounds
in
that
corridor.
Then
we
can
look
at
other
methods
of
raising
finance,
such
as
tax
incremental
funding,
which
is
something
I
know,
is
used
in
the
U
in
the
u.s.,
not
really
as
much
in
the
UK
and
and
earlier
on
in
the
panel
that
the
guy
from
viola
forgotten
his
name.
Apologies.
C
He
made
a
very
good
point
she's,
absolutely
right.
There
is
no
lack
of
finance
to
build
out
major
schemes.
There
is
a
lack
of
major
schemes,
so
you
know,
if
you
are,
if
you're,
bold
and
you've
got
the
vision
they
come
coming,
they
come
calling
now
I
don't
want
to
be
too
presumptive,
because
I'm
gonna
need
sign
me
off
yet
and
give
me
the
money
in
cash.
C
But
I
have
got
a
lot
of
interest
at
the
moment
and
we
believe
that
that
raising
the
finance
because
of
the
success
of
the
city
of
Cambridge,
because
the
economy
is
growing
at
such
a
strong
rate
and
because
it
has
done
over
a
forty
five
year
period,
there
is
a
confidence
from
the
investors
that
they
can
not
only
invest
the
money,
but
they
can.
They
can
see
a
return
on
them
when
it
comes
to
the
power
to
do
it.
C
A
What
can
be
done
is
being
done,
or
certainly
some
of
those
things
and
Eric
hails
from
GE
who's
been
a
unique
company
on
many
fronts
and
technology,
but
certainly
solar
energy
and
wind
energy
I've
seen
some
of
the
wind
technology
that
you
have
built
some
of
the
largest
when
powered
generators
I've
ever
seen
in
my
life
and
somehow
you
move
them
across
the
world.
But
you
have
an
expertise
in
solar
in
and
some
of
the
projects
or
in
municipalities
around
the
country
and
around
the
world.
D
We've
seen
is
so
what
we
do
is
we.
We
work
with
municipalities
and
townships
to
create
an
alternative
energy
solution
for
them.
If
they
have
goals
such
as
you
have
where
it's
it's
based
off
of
both
Carbon
Reduction,
you
know
economic
savings
and
you
know
meeting
the
needs
of
your
constituents
in
the
growth
of
your
communities,
etc,
and
so
what
we've
seen
and
what
we've
actually
built
this
this
this
is
in
your
reach.
D
I
guess
is
my
point,
write
this
and
you
you're,
proving
it
that
the
the
technology
that
is
out
there,
coupled
with
the
financing
that
is
out
there,
coupled
with
the
the
smarts
and
the
engineering
required,
can
give
you
localized
solutions,
while
you're
waiting
on
your
collective
voices
to
rise
up
and
get
the
the
national
solutions
right,
you
can
do
localized
solutions,
just
a
couple
examples,
so
I'm
from
I,
we
were
headquartered
in
upstate,
New
York,
where
Thomas
Edison
actually
started
G
and
in
that
community
they.
You
know
that
this
is
not
Boston.
D
This
is
not
New
York.
This
is
not
Salt,
Lake
City.
You
know
this
is
a
smaller
community.
They,
instead
of
you,
know
doing
aggregation
at
the
the
millions
of
people
and
saying
take
our
purchasing
power
and
buy
renewable
energy
for
us,
mr.
utility,
they
don't,
they
don't
have
that.
They
can't
think
like
that,
as
some
of
you
may
be
able
to.
But
what
they
do
have
is
they
have
townships
small
townships
in
the
area
and
they
they
pooled
those
townships
together
and
they
created
a
consortium
and
in
that
consortium
they
said
together.
D
We
can
take
advantage
of
something
here
and
they
went
out
to
market
and
said
who
can
solve
this?
Who
can
meet
our
renewable
energy
goals,
plus
collectively
save
us
money
and
by
the
way,
what
can
we
do?
What
what's
our
and
so
what
we
were,
what
we're
doing
at
which,
which
will
work,
which
you
know,
will
make
money
for
everyone
in
it
and
achieve
the
carbon
reduction
goals
and
the
every
all
the
other
goals
that
they
had
is
they
have
a
lot
of
land
within
their
municipalities?
D
They
have
a
lot
of
you
know
just
this
areas
that
will
not
be
needed
for
immediate
futures
and
what
we
were
able
to
do
is
come
in
and
develop
large
solar
solutions
on
those
plots
of
land
and
then
through
mechanisms
within
the
grid.
They
can
each
take
purchasing
power
on
the
different
solar
installations
and
then
use
that
power
to
offset
their
entire.
You
know
police
headquarters
load
and
take
that
100%
to
solar.
They
can
use
some
of
it
and
divert
it
to
the
school
districts
or
some
of
it
and
the
Department
of
Public
Works,
etc.
D
So
you
aggregate
and
that's
amongst
townships,
so
township
here,
township
there
township
there.
This
Township
may,
in
theory
have
a
landfill
that
you
know
is
going
to
produce
excess
electricity,
but
they
might
not
be
able
to
use
it,
but
because
they're
a
consortium,
then
they
use
that
excess
electricity
and
it
helps
power.
The
the
township
down
here,
their
police
station
for
the
day
and
and
figuring
all
that
out,
is
what
we
do
and
that
you're
seeing
that
in
the
market
and
you
you
know
there
are
there.
D
Those
are
the
decentralized
ways
that
you
can
move
forward,
as
you
also
work
on
your
large
national
initiatives
or
under
your
larger
initiatives,
where
you're
trying
to
really
get
the
utility
to
say
no
I
demand,
Carbon,
Reduction,
I
demand,
renewable
resources
and
and
and
in
it
I
mean
the
the
no-brainers
for
a
lot
of
these
communities.
Where
take
my
landfill
I'm,
never
going
to
use
it
and
the
technology
price
point
now
for
renewable
technology,
it
makes
sense,
it
actually
does
pencil.
It
doesn't
not
it's
not
a
cost.
D
Time
so
you
know
again:
we
I
my
family
is
from
upstate
New
York,
so
I
take
a
personal
pride
and
anytime
I
can
try
to
do
something
from
your
own
community
and
in
this
particular
example,
you
know
the
technology
itself
in
the
design
of
it
yeah.
That's
that's
my
team
and
that's
what
we
do
at
a
global
scale,
but
when
you
execute
on
that
and
when
you
actually
have
to
go
out
and
do
civil
work
and
electrical
work
and
mechanical
work
that
creates
jobs
right,
that
is,
you
can
pull
that
from
the
local
community.
D
You're
the
people
in
your
local
community
already
probably
have
the
skill
sets
that
they
can
do
it
and
at
least
even
in
that
community
they're
community
colleges
are
gearing
to
put
more
people
into
those
jobs
because
of
the
growth
of
that
that
that
need
and
and
and
every
place,
and
so
that's
an
example.
But
we
do
things
here
in
Boston
we
do
things
in
California
and
Arizona
and
everywhere
in
between
and
everywhere
we
go
you're
always
taking
from
the
local
community,
because
it's
the
best
option
to
get
the
project
built,
and
so
it
always
creates.
A
D
I
have
a
vision.
How
do
I
get
there
I
think
it's
the
same
experience
you
had
when
you
reached
out
to
Rocky
Mountain
all
right.
They
they're,
like
okay,
I,
hear
you,
here's
what
we
can
try
to
do
and
whether
you
go
with
them
or
not,
or
whether
they
can
make
the
solution.
I
think
that's
where
industry
can
help
great.
A
And
it
is
another
example:
not
only
I
mean
the
risk
is
real,
but
the
opportunity
of
bringing
new
energy
bringing
emissions
down,
bringing
jobs
into
the
community,
forming
partnerships
between
the
private
sector
and
the
public
sector.
That's
what
it's
going
to
take
and
we
need
to
look
at
how
those
things
really
work
and
drill
down
to
make
sure
that
we
could
see
them
spread
out
not
to
200
communities
but
2,000
and
then
two
hundred
thousand
absolutely.
E
D
D
The
people
in
this
room
and
that's
what
industry
I
think
can
help
you,
because
I
can't
run
my
business
with
a
focus
just
on
New
York
I
have
a
new
york-based
team
and
then
I
have
a
Massachusetts
based
team
and
that
collective
knowledge
can
be
applied
across
the
board
and
can
help
come
with
solutions
and
again,
if
the,
if
the
commercial
opportunity
doesn't
flow
from
it.
That's
not
your
problem
right.
That's
that
that's
what
you
get
from
reaching
out
to
industry,
so
I
would
encourage
that.
It's
the
extent
you
can.
A
F
I
was
teaching
a
class
on
sustainable
energy,
and
so
I
came
into
class
the
day
after
the
election
and
I
knew
there
were
going
to
be
a
lot
of
very
upset.
20
year
olds,
all
of
them
all
of
these
students
go
out
and
get
jobs
and
working
in
these
fields,
and
so
I
was
all
ready
to
be
like
you
know
the
voice
of
reason
and
calm
and
I
said:
okay.
We
let's
talk
about
this.
Any
questions
boom,
Caitlin
Connelly
in
the
first
Rohan
showed
up.
F
She
was
did
I
choose
the
wrong
major
and
I
was
I
was
taken.
Aback
I
was
really
I,
was
really
unprepared
in
a
fundamental
way
to
to
answer
that
question:
I
kind
of
fumbled
my
way
through
the
thing
and
we
were
talked
about,
but
I
came
back
in
the
next
class,
much
more
prepared
and
the
answer
was
well.
You
can
just
look
out
the
window.
F
The
federal
government
is
not
all
government
and
government
is
not
the
only
agent
of
change
in
society
and
so
and
I
work
on
a
project
I'm
one
of
the
leaders
that
the
answer
to
for
sustainable
energy
that
are
doing
the
technical
work
for
the
city
of
Boston
to
help
them
guide
them
to
their
goal
of
carbon
neutrality
and
we've
I've
hired
a
bunch
of
my
students
to
work
on
the
project,
so
cities,
I
guess.
My
point
here
is
on
leadership
you're
you.
F
You
have
an
important
role
as
beacon
for
the
youth
of
today,
because
they're
going
to
be
living
in
this
world
and
they
get
it
and
they
understand
it
and
it's
increasingly
and
their
DNA
DNA
that
this
is
important
in
terms
of
jobs.
An
opportunity
I
I'm,
struck
by
mayor
of
the
scoop
sea
and
the
incredible
work
that
she's
done
when
I
saw
that
I
was
on
the
panel
with
you,
I
went
and
looked
at
Rocky,
Mountain
Power
and
looked
at
their
fuel
mix,
and
it's
60%
coal,
and
so
what
you?
F
Think.
One
of
the
fundamental
roles
as
you've
are
doing
out
in
Salt
Lake
City
is
to
engage
outside
the
city,
particularly
with
the
folks
who
determine
the
mix
of
electricity
in
the
grid
and
we're
doing
it
in
the
GRC
we
have
the
local
utilities,
eversource
National
Grid
and
the
olia
involved
in
this
discussion,
but
cities.
We
can't
rely
on
the
federal
government
to
drive
the
decarbonisation
of
the
grid.
A
G
B
B
I
know
that
I
have
a
business
partner
with
me
who
is
helping
to
pay
that
loan,
so
no
taxpayer
money
is
being
invested
in
this
brand-new
airport
and
we're
very
grateful
to
the
tremendous
team
out
at
the
airport
and
all
of
the
preparation
that
went
into
us
being
able
to
have
this
moment
in
time.
Our
new
concourse,
the
initial
one,
will
be
done
by
2020
and
then
2024.
The
entire
project
will
be
done.
G
G
B
B
And
and
the
partnership
we
created
with
Delta,
you
know
we
initially
were
doing
one
concourse
and
as
the
project
unfolded,
they
decided
to
invest
in
a
second
one,
so
that
will
start
being
developed
as
well
and
is
underway,
and
we
opened
the
tunnel
and
I
I
saw
it
myself
that
it
will
work.
It's
in
great
shape,
great.
A
I
D
Have
happened
over
the
last
called
six
months.
We
have
seen
virtually
no
movement
in
solar
module
pricing
from
outside
the
united
states.
I
mean
it's,
it's
very
minor,
it's
a
little
bit
here
and
there,
so
that's
impact
has
not
been
as
far-reaching,
as
I
think
others
had
expected,
or
that
was
maybe
the
intent,
and
so
I
do
think
you
know
to
comment
on
that
where
there
is
potential
tech.
This
is
the
hardest
piece
in
the
solar
module
itself.
D
Technical
aaj
achill
differentiation
is
incredibly
hard
to
achieve
and
Technol
and
that's
cost
and
efficiency
of
the
actual
panel,
and
you
have
an
incredible
infrastructure
already
set
up
overseas
that
have
in
mass
capacity
and
it's
gonna
be
hard
to
mess
to
clear
ight
now
on.
The
challenge
domestically
is
to
leapfrog
what
is
already
out
there,
and
so,
where
I
see
most
of
our
costs
coming
down
continues
to
be
from
foreign
solar
modules
and
us-based
companies
using
those
ultimately
commoditized
type
solutions
and
creating
value
from
that,
and
so
I
think.
H
D
F
There's
just
flat-out
false
and
if
you
look
at
the
data
on
the
what's
called
the
levelized
cost
of
electricity,
what
it
cost
to
build
and
operate,
maintain
any
electric
generating
unit
over
its
lifetime
compared
to
the
electricity
producers
in
the
United
States,
onshore
wind
without
any
subsidies,
is
as
cheap
or
cheaper
than
natural
gas.
Flat-Out
Solar
is
close
and
in
many
cases
is
cheaper
and
Solar
has,
even
more
so
than
wind,
has
a
greater
much
greater
potential
for
cost
to
clients
as
modules
get
more
efficient.
So
the
the
it's
already
the
the
free.
F
B
B
We
still
have
yet
to
sit
down
with
Dominion
and
and
finalize
a
deal
there,
but
I
that
will
come
even
Dominion
is
now
looking
to
enter
into
the
electric
world
and
how
they
transition
from
natural
gas
to
being
a
part
of
the
electric
world.
So
we'll
see
how
things
play
out,
but
we're
we're
not
quite
done
yet
on
that
piece.
It
is
a
journey.
J
C
D
Maybe
you
you,
you
might
also
have
an
opinion
on
this
too.
So
GE
has
a
we
do
a
lot
in
storage
and
I.
Think
storage
is
going
through
a
very
similar
cost
curve,
but
will
be
seen
in
solar
and
I
think
you
know
solar,
obviously
being
a
little
bit
ahead.
I
think
storage
technology
is
going
to
be
applied
and-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
different
ways-
that's
the
beauty
of
storage.
It
can
be
applied
and
monetized
in
multiple
fashions.
D
So
what
we're
seeing
works
today
is
grid
level,
providing
some
level
of
grid
services
or
for
the
specific
utilities
to
shape
how
they
they
handle
some
that
intermittency
that
renewable
technology,
whether
it's
wind
or
solar,
create
amongst
the
grid.
So
they
really
can
help
smooth
that
out
and
make
it
look
more
like
base
load
and
that
technology
is
happening
and-
and
there
are
and
storage
is
a
big
piece
of
that.
D
The
other
piece
of
storage
that
you're
also
seeing
is
at
a
more
decentralized
level
where
you
have
a
lot
of
renewables
going
in
whether
it's
localized,
wind
or
decentralized,
solar
storage,
then
can
start
to
deliver
that
electricity
locally.
Where
the
load
is
most
needed,
so
you
know
a
couple
examples
of
that
are,
if
you
think
of
shift
work
at
a
factory
or
or
work
within
your
local
community
that
tends
to
rise
and
fall
solar
works
well,
it
starts
producing
really
well
like
10:00
a.m.
D
They
put
it
in
the
battery
and
then
they
discharge
it
starting
at
4:00,
and
they
smooth
that
out
for
you
and
that's
kind
of
so
it's
being
done
both
at
a
decentralized
level
and
at
a
macro
level.
For
you
know,
look
more
of
utility
and
my
advice.
There
would
be,
as
you
think,
in
Orlando
about
how
to
implement
that
again
that
that's
just
it's
so
unique
right
now.
Where
is
it's
impossible
to
give
an
answer
that
says
this
will
work
everywhere?
It's
very
local!
D
How
do
you
see
it
and
every
utility
is
going
to
be
looking
differently
at
that
as
well,
but
I
guess.
In
summary,
the
technology
is
reaching
a
pricing
point
where
it's
going
to
be
able
to
have
monetization
and
returns
on
all
of
the
different
solutions.
It's
going
to
be
used
for
so
you're
you're
thinking
about
right,
I'm,.
B
Technology
to
heat
and
cool
the
building,
so
you're
not
bringing
in
a
natural
gas
infrastructure
into
that
building
and
and
as
you
do
new
buildings,
you
should
be
thinking
in
those
terms
of
not
creating
that
infrastructure
that
cements
you
to
the
old
way
of
heating
and
cooling,
and
so
that's
part
of
what's
happening
on
the
natural
gas
front.
As
we
do
our
facilities
right.
I
A
C
Think
that's
the
fundamental
difference
from
where
we
are,
and
what
we
know
in
Cambridge
here
is
that
we
do
not
have
the
energy
capacity
to
to
to
deal
with
the
growth
in
housing
and
in
business
that
is
coming
to
us
between
now
and
2014,
and
the
models
that
are
showing
what
the
growth
is
going
to
be
and
the
models
are
showing
where
we
are
electricity
lies
are
a
long
way
apart.
So
we
have
been
putting
up
solar
farms
out
of
had
a
quite
a
steady
rate.
C
We
have
to
look
at
getting
them
in,
but
storage
will
be
the
absolute
key
to
this,
and
and
that's
that's
something
that
we're
working
with
with
the
University
and
and
we've
partners
around
the
county
and
around
the
country
to
look
at
the
best
possible
options
to
make
the
most
out
of
our
net
strategy
because,
contrary
to
public
opinion,
it
doesn't
always
rain.
In
the
UK
country.
E
You're
talking
about
the
relation
of
energy
with
buildings
and
I,
know
there's
a
session
on
transportation
at
the
end
in
the
afternoon.
But
how
do
you
discuss
the
renewable
energy
in
the
transport
sector
because
the
more
there
is
a
demand
and
and
and
then
preparations
for
electric
vehicles
or
shared
mobility?
How
do
you
plan
this
in
your
supply
of
renewable
energy
in
that,
in
that
context,
sure.
B
One
of
the
exciting
things
that
Rocky
Mountain
Power
is
working
on
for
the
state
of
Utah
and
is
essentially
a
transportation
grid
of
rechargeable
lying.
Should
we
say
for
electric
vehicles
and
and
they
the
tagline,
is
from
Yellowstone
to
Disneyland
and
essentially
we'll
wire
our
city
in
a
way
that
electric
vehicles
will
be
able
to
travel
into
all
the
national
parks
and
through
these
two
major
corridors,
I-80
and
I-15,
that
intersect
in
our
state.
And
it
is
my
understanding
that
those
charging
stations
will
also
have
a
capacity
to
store.
B
So
it
will
be
an
interesting
piece
of
Transportation
as
we
move
to
the
electric
vehicle
world
and,
and
that
will
be
coming
online
very
quickly
over
the
next
couple
years
and
I
foresee
that
that
will
drive
electric
vehicles
in
in
the
delivery
of
product
into
our
community.
Much
quicker
than
maybe.
We
had
anticipated
right.
I
D
It's
very
localized
and
in
that
local
example,
there's
not
both
the
load
need
nor
the
the
ability
to
get
a
return
on
the
storage,
so
it
doesn't
provide
at
all
an
additional
service
there,
because
when
they
need
the
electricity
is
when
so
the
load
curve
of
what
they
need
is
directly
matched
by
when
by
solar.
So
the
profile
they're.
I
In
a
place
where
you
have
that
you
know
you
have
the
peak
demand
and
though
in
the
evenings
providing
all
the
solar
during
the
day,
how
do
you
store
for
that
I
mean?
What's
it
I
in
Honolulu?
We
don't
have
that
on
a
big
scale.
We
have
immediate
demand
into
the
grid.
Hi
Solar
penetration
on
homes,
but
no
real
storage
capacity,
I,
don't
see
any
on
the
horizon
either.
Well,.
D
There
is
that
storage
is
probably
best
seeded
in
Hawaii
more
at
a
grid
level,
because
you
have
so
much
renewable
penetration,
the
grid
itself,
whether
Tico
or
whoever
they
have
to
start
managing
exactly.
You
know
everything
goes
into
the
grid,
but
maybe
they
don't
need
it
right
when
it's
always
being
delivered.
So
can
they
how
that
solar
electricity
gets
dispersed
amongst
the
distribution
transmission
grid?
D
And
that's
where
storage
is
going
in
and
there
are
some
projects
in
Hawaii
that
are
incorporating
storage
there
at
that
larger
level,
to
provide
more
of
a
grid
level
service,
not
necessarily
at
the
municipality
or
the
city
level,
but
you're,
seeing
it
you're
benefiting
from
it
from
how
the
grid
is
managed
and
that's
where
storage
is
probably
being
used.
There.
A
K
We
will
now
break
for
lunch.
Please
listen
carefully!
All
those
with
an
a-level
badge.
Please
make
your
way
to
the
fourth
floor,
all
G
credentials.
Please
make
your
way
to
the
trustee
lounge
for
an
extended
break.
If
you
are
headed
off
campus,
please
plan
to
be
back
by
12:40
for
our
fireside
chat
with
Anthony
King
of
Bank
of
America
and
Secretary
John,
Kerry
again.