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From YouTube: Civilian Review Board (CRB) Public Meeting - 05/10/2022
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Recording of Civilian Review Board's (CRB) public meeting held virtually on Tuesday, May 10th, 2022.
A
B
B
All
members
of
the
public
currently
have
their
cameras
turned
off
and
before
we
move
into
today's
agenda,
there
are
a
few
housekeeping
items
that
I
want
to
go
over.
First,
we
have
turn
on
zoom's,
auto
captioning
feature.
Each
person
will
need
to
opt
in
to
see
these
captions
select
the
live
transcript
button
on
the
toolbar
at
the
bottom
of
your
zoom
screen
to
see
these
captions
appear
opat
staff
or
I'm
sorry.
B
Select
the
interpretation
button
on
the
toolbar
at
the
bottom
of
your
zoom
screen
and
select
the
language
channel
that
you
need
I'll,
ask
each
of
the
language
interpretation
teams
to
introduce
themselves
and
explain
how
to
opt
into
the
language
channels
in
their
specific
languages
and
then
after
they
have
all
introduced
themselves.
I
will
open
up
those
channels,
so
everybody
can
opt
in
if
you
need.
C
D
D
E
E
B
Thank
you
very
much
to
our
interpreters
and
just
as
a
reminder
to
all
of
our
panelists
and
or
I'm
sorry,
all
of
our
board
members
and
other
speakers.
Please
speak
one
at
a
time
and
don't
speak
very
quickly,
so
that
all
of
our
interpreters
and
our
asl
interpreters
are
able
to
keep
up.
If
anyone
has
any
audio
problems,
please
let
us
know
in
the
chat
and
we'll
fix
it
as
quickly
as
we
can.
I
will
now
pass
it
over
to
our
crv
chair,
peter
alvarez,.
A
A
My
name
is
peter
alvarez
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
civilian
review
board
for
the
city
of
boston's,
ordinance,
establishing
the
office
of
police,
accountability
and
transparency
opat,
which
took
effect
on
july
1
of
2021.
We've
called
the
public
meeting
of
the
crb
before
we
do
the
introduction
to
some
housekeeping
for
the
board
mem.
My
fellow
board
members
here
before
you
speak.
A
Here
we
will
discuss
the
2022
meeting
calendar,
op,
executive
director's
report,
complaint
summary
and
disposition
for
case
file,
number
29,
other
business
and
adjournment
so
in
the
other
business
section,
just
other
items
that
you'd
like
to
discuss
either
at
this
meeting
or
put
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting,
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
and
introduce
our
civilian
review
board
members.
So
they
said
you're
on
just
wave
when
we
say
your
name
so
joining
us.
A
G
A
A
A
You
know
still
getting
up
and
running
in
terms
of
getting
furniture
and
everything.
So,
but
it's
envisioned
that
at
the
moment
the
august
meeting
would
be
virtual
and
then
the
meetings
in
the
fall
thereafter
will
be
in
person.
But
that's
not
you
know.
Obviously
it
will
be
subject
to
ongoing
kind
of
circumstances,
with
opat
and
with
govit.
H
I
Great,
thank
you.
Everyone
happy
to
see
you
all.
Hopefully,
warmer
weather
is
coming
up,
so
I
will
give
an
update
on
what's
going
on
in
our
office
since
I've
last
spoken
to
you
all,
and
so
sorry,
I'm
just
pulling
up
my
report.
I
just
had
it
and
then
I
moved
for
those
who
did
not
hear
my
I'm
working
on
my
speech
about
working
on
more
than
one
screen.
So
let
me
just
pull
it
back
up.
I
just
had
it
and
I'm
looking
at
the
wrong.
I
I
About
the
details
of
that,
it
is
an
increase
of
165
000
over
fy22,
the
key
investment
that
there's
three
key
investments
that
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about.
Today.
I've
mentioned
to
them
during
the
retreat,
but
they
were
included
in
the
budget
and
they
are
money
for
community
mediator
position
in
our
ordinance.
I
The
second
investment
was
for
a
year-long
internship
for
high
school
and
college
students
to
participate
in
police
reform
efforts
within
our
office.
So
that
is
an
exciting
program
that
we
would
be
running
directly
out
of
opec.
We
have
actually
started
to
do
some
of
that
work.
Inside
of
op.
By
having
our
office
become
a
partner
with
youth
engagement
working
with
that
office,
we
will
have
two
summer
youth
work
with
us.
I
This
summer
we
have
started
the
interview
process,
so
we
are
happy
to
have
you
start
to
work
this
summer,
work
on
a
advisory
council
that
I've
spoken
about
and
very
excited
to
see
that
happen,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
second
investment,
the
third
investment.
It's
also
in
the
ordinance.
There
is
a
requirement
not
to
be
in
your
report
as
well
as
another
other
parts
of
the
ordinance
that
it
does
speak
on
us
working
through
some
equity
tools
and
we're
putting
out
data
on
bypark,
hiring
retention
and
promotion
practices.
I
Because
of
that,
we
thought
it
was
very
important
to
have
a
consultant
really
look
into
how
bpd
is
looking
at
their
hiring
retention
and
promotion
practices,
and
so
we
did
get
funding
to
have
that
consultant.
We
are
working
to
have
a
interdepartmental
collaboration
happen
that
will
not
only
look
at
how
we
put
at
look
at
the
rfp
that
will
go
out
in
early
fall
by
late
summer,
early
fall,
but
having
that
team
really
work
together
throughout
the
process.
I
I
The
post
commission
last
week
also
as
they
just
estate
reform,
our
state
partner,
a
counterpart.
They
issued
regulations,
550
cmr
1.0,
procedural
rules
for
receiving
investigating,
hearing
and
adjudicating
complaints
regarding
law
enforcement
officers
in
that
in
their
rights
it
laid
out
how
investigations
should
be
conducted
in
the
time
frame.
We
issued
a
speaking
with
the
oppac
commission.
We
talked
about
the
time
frame.
One
of
the
concerns
we
had
is
that
there
was
a
90-day
limit.
I
The
state
basically
gave
that
basically,
the
state
statute
says
that
you
have
one
year
to
complete
your
investigations
from
the
time
that
complaints
are
received.
Opat
is
not
a
law
enforcement
agency
as
defined
by
statute,
but
we
do
have
to
send
our
complaints
to
boston
police
department
when
we
received
them,
and
so
we
still
are
working
through
what
we
mean
in
relation
to
post
commissions
and
what
our
work
looks
like
90
days.
Obviously
is
not
a
long
enough
time
to
get
complaints
received
here,
get
about
the
bpd.
I
Have
them
investigated
in
our
office
and
put
before
the
slovenia
review
board
back
to
the
police,
commissioner
for
the
discipline
action
or
not
to
happen
and
then
back
to
post
commission.
So
we're
very
concerned
about
that.
But
the
regulation
did
pass.
So
we
are
working
with
the
post
commission
on
what
that
would
look
like
for
us
and
how
we
would
not,
because
there
is.
There
is
a
way
that
we
can
just
ask
for
an
extension
each
time
that
we
would
do
that.
I
J
I
Just
for
a
host
of
reasons
of
just
them
being
available,
or
not
so
90
days,
to
seem
like
a
very
short
period
of
time,
especially
when
we
have
so
many
layers
to
that.
So
I
should
have
more
updates
for
you,
hopefully,
by
the
next
time
the
board
meets
about
what
the
90
days
looks
for
us,
but
we
have
started
those
conversations
with
the
post
commission
and
they
seem
receptive
to
us
not
being
able
to
live
within
those
90
days.
I
Also,
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
police
commissioner,
search
last
month,
the
mayor's
office
did
put
out
a
job
description
around
that
there
is
and
has
been
a
search
committee
that
the
mayor's
office
had
put
together.
They
have
hired
an
outside
consultant
to
help
them
move
this
work
along,
so
we're
hopeful
the
summer
that
there
will
be
a
new
commissioner
that
is
named
and
as
that
information
draws
closer,
I
will
let
the
commissioners
know
the
board.
I
I
I
don't
know
if
you
have
met
everyone,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
who
my
staff
is
and
you
do
get
to
see
who
are
sapphire.
I
know
you
have
all
met
john,
my
chief
of
staff,
I'm
a
chief
of
staff,
my
deputy
director.
We
have
a
new
chief
of
staff,
yes
mean
and
yes
mean
comes
from
us
from
council
royals
office
and
she
started
with
us
last
week.
She's
hit
the
ground
and
running.
She
brings
with
us
a
lot
of
experience
from
city
council
and
a
lot
of
calls
the
experience.
I
So
I'm
looking
forward
for
you
all
to
get
to
know
yes
mean,
as
I
know
her
and
our
staff
is
really
grown
to
to
love
her
in
the
last
week,
and
I
know
that
you
all
will
utilize
her
as
much
as
we
utilize
her.
So
yes
mean
you
all
speak
to
ben
all
the
time
if
you
haven't
met
ben,
please
familiar
familiarize
yourself
with
ben
who's,
that
administrative
assistant
of
boards,
karen
my
executive
assistant
and
my
I
team,
which
I
call
my
it.
I
My
investigative
team,
which
consists
of
mikael,
andrew
and
tostry
so
andrew,
is
an
intake.
An
administrative
intake
of
all
of
our
complaints
that
come
in
and
mikhail
and
top
speed
do
all
of
our
investigations.
We
are
still
hiring
for
two
investigators
and
three
more
intake
workers.
So
if
you
have
anyone
who
is
looking
for
any
positions,
please
still
look
on
the
city
of
boston's
website
and
send
them
our
way
and
we
will
be
putting
out
the
job
descriptions
for
the
internships
at
the
end
of
the
summer
and
that's
all
I
have.
I
A
I
I
Sense
so
per
ordinance.
We
are
required
to
give
you
basic
information,
including
the
case
number.
I
should
say
because
cases
can
be
filed
online.
Sometimes
you
will
see
that
case.
Numbers
will
vary
and
it
may
seem
like
this
one
says
29
just
I
want
to
be
specific
about
our
case
system.
If
someone
goes
online,
they
start
a
case
and
they
don't
finish
the
complaint
it's
still
already
assigned.
That
number
doesn't
mean
that
we
even
got
the
complaint,
they
just
started
it
and
the
system
just
gives
it
to
them.
I
I
This
case
involves
illegal
parking
in
front
of
boston
police
headquarters,
which
is
over
here
across
the
next
to
virgo's
logo
station
t
station
and
near
whittier
street
health
center.
The
complainant
called
because
of
police
officer
cars,
both
personal
and
mock
police
vehicles
being
parked
on
the
sidewalk,
and
while
we
understand
the
complaint
of
this
complainant,
the
complainant
states
that
that
one
point
he
counted
out
or
he
or
she
they
counted
out.
50
police
cars,
police,
50,
cars
being
parked
on
the
street.
I
We
are
as
a
staff
and
as
a
board
confined
to
what
we
can
investigate.
So
looking
at
the
ordinance
specifically
12-6.7
b,
we
are
confined
into
what
we
can
look
at
to
investigate
and
because
of
that,
we
found
that
we
are.
This
complaint
is
out
of
scope,
and
so
what
we're
recommending
is
that
the
response
that
this
case
be
ruled
by
the
board
to
be
out
of
scope
for
our
opac
to
investigate.
I
However,
we
also
believe
that
we
do
have
an
obligation,
as
still
a
city
department,
to
direct
this
complainant
to
speak
to
the
boston
transportation
department,
as
they
are
responsible
for
handling
all
parking
concerns
and
enforcement
of
our
off-street
talking
to
handle
this
situation.
So
that
is
the
gist
of
the
summary
and
the
findings
and
what
we
are
recommending
to
the
board
today.
H
Thank
you,
chair
and
thank
you
travert
just
to
be
clear,
is
the
recommendation
that
this
is
outside
the
scope,
because
it
is
about
parking
or
is
it
because
it
is
about
50
cars
at
once,
for
example,
if
the
complaint
was
this,
is
this
one
police
car?
This
is
the
you
know.
I
saw
this
officer.
They
were
parking
illegally
at
this
time.
I
Well,
it's
parking!
So
if
there
was
it's
parking,
if
it
was
one
officer-
and
there
was
an
exchange
with
an
officer-
an
officer
actually
engaged
with
someone.
If
there
was
something
else
that
was
going
on
about
the
officer's
behavior,
then
that's
that's
something
we
can
deal
with.
We
it's
not
something
that's
inside
of
our
purview.
There's.
We
have
there's
a
list
of
things
that
we
can
look
at.
That
says
that
we
can
investigate
whether
someone
is
parked
or
illegally
parking
is
not
something
that
we
can
actually
look
at.
I
But
if
there
was
an
exchange
because
of
the
parking,
if
there
was
some
other
conduct
or
misconduct
with
the
parking
we
could
there's
there's
not
even
we
can't
even
say
for
sure
it
is
actually
police
who
are
parking
there.
It
could
be
city,
it
could
be
whittier
street
health
center
because
it
also
states
that
whittier
street
health
is
at
whittier
street
health
center.
We
don't
know
if
we're
history.
Health
center
employees
are
also
parking
there.
It's
really
unknown.
Actually,
who
is
all
parking
there?
I
It
could
be
a
mixture
of
all
and
that's
why
it
really
should
be
something
that
the
boston
transportation
department
looks
at
and
identifying,
because
we
don't
have
access
to
rv
records
to
go
run
everyone's
plate
to
see
we
would
have
to
stand
outside
and
watch
police
do
this
we'd
see
who's
going.
Even
then
we
would
have
to
identify
what's
going
on.
J
I'm
sorry
for
the
sake
of
moving
learning
from
this.
If
the
person
had
filed
a
complaint
registration
of
police
cars,
would
that
then
be
possible
abuse
and
misuse
of
power
when
a
person
makes
a
statement
of
50
cars,
that's
a
pretty
large
number
and
and
if
that
individual
had
following
the
complaint,
she
had
that
there
were
actually
police
cars
that
we
couldn't
that
she
recorded.
I
Even
in
that
case
I
I
would
also
say
that
it
would,
you
would
still
have
to
check
with
boston
transportation
department,
because
you
don't
know
boston
transportation
department
has
because
they
are
the
regulators
of
our
street
parking
if
they've
extended
them
the
courtesy
to
park
over
there.
We
don't
know,
there's
just
there's
all
these
these
questions
of
whether
or
not
we
could
you
know
you
could
look
and
keep
going.
You
can
say,
oh,
you
know,
does
boston
transportation
department
allow
them
to
park
there
is
it?
I
H
I
A
Yeah,
thank
you
josh
on
that
point.
That
was
gonna
be
kind
of
my
my
view
as
well
that
we
should
facilitate
that,
especially
since
they
made
the
complaint
with
us
to
facilitate
kind
of
an
easier
way
for
them
to.
You
know,
interact
with
btd,
because
I
think
you
know
generally
interacting
with
these
systems
is
difficult
and
they
provided
a
detailed
explanation
as
to
what
the
concern
was,
especially
when
it
comes
to
folks
with
disabilities.
A
I
And
just
as
a
point
of
clarity,
what
we
will
do
is
in
this
summary
we
will
add
the
crb
recommendation
and
then
this
goes
on
our
website.
So
we
will
add
that
that
point
that
we
will
the
crb
well,
once
you
vote
whatever
you
vote
on
that,
the
recommendation
would
be
that
if
you
vote
for
it
to
be
out
of
scope
and
that
the
staff
be
directed
to
contact
btd
and
connect
the
complainant
in
btd,
that's
what
we
will
do
and
it'll
also
be
posted
online.
I
G
A
See
no
comments,
so
thank
you,
director,
everett
and
opat.
For
you
know,
taking
on
and
explaining
the
complaint
number
29.
just
before
we
go
on
and
vote
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
think
that
was
a
great
clarifying
question.
Crv
member
carrie
mays,
I
think,
is
really
relevant,
and
given
that
comment,
I
think
we'll
just
split
the
vote
in
two
just
I
I
tend
to
do.
A
So
so
motion
for
the
first
vote
to
vote
that
this
complaint
number
29
is
out
of
scope
and
I
will
do
a
road
call,
we'll
start
with
natalie
carrithers.
You
will
say
I
if
you
think
it
is
out
of
scope,
so
you
know,
nay,
if
you
think
it
is
not
or
you
abstain.
So
this
complaint
is
out
of
scope.
This
is
a
vote
to
say
it
is
out
of
scope
natalie.
It
is
an
outer
scope.
K
L
L
G
A
Chris
summer
hi
and
myself
I
vote
I
as
well.
Next
vote
will
be
to
adopt
the
recommendation
of
opat
that
the
you
know
having
voted
now
that
the
complaint
is
out
of
scope,
that
the
next
step
here
is
to
connect
the
complaintant
with
btd
so
that
they
can
address
the
complaint
about
the
parking
directly.
A
So
we're
going
to
move
to
vote
on
that
recommendation
to
dismiss
the
complaint
and
direct
the
complaintant
directly
to
btd
and
make
the
connection
with
the
complaint
into
btd
to
address
the
complaint
about
parking.
So
we'll
start
again
with
natalie
carrithers,
and
I
would
be
you
agree
with
that
recommendation.
Aye
aye
wayne
dave
reverend
wayne,
daly
hi,
josh,
stankoff,
hi,
anne
hernandez.
K
J
A
A
A
H
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
the
my
fellow
member,
I
believe
it
was
crb.
Member
sumner
did
bring
up
an
interesting
point
whether
this
parking
issue
is
an
abusive
authority,
and
I
think
it's
a
an
interesting
question,
and
I
just
with
that,
I
just
have
a
question.
This
is
being
our
first
vote
and
decision
as
a
board.
H
If
an
issue
comes
up
in
the
future
related
to
this
or
similar
to
this,
are
we
is
there
any
precedent
that
is
set
by
us
voting
in
a
certain
thing,
and
if
we
decide
as
a
board
based
on
similar
or
different
circumstances,
we
we
can.
We
can
decide
something
different
in
the
future.
This
there's
no
sort
of
precedent
setting
in
a
binding
way.
Is
there
it's
a
question?
A
I'd
direct
it
to
director
everett,
but
my
first
inclination
would
be
everything's
going
to
be
case
by
case
we'll
look
at
ops
recommendation
and
we
looked
at
it
here
and
we
you
know,
as
the
chair,
I
bifurcated
it
into
two
votes
because
I
wanted
to
make
it
clear.
You
know
within
scope
for
this
particular
situation
and
then
what
the
recommendation
was,
but
I'll,
let
director
ever
add
any
color
to
that.
I
I
I
would
also
remind
the
board
members
that
you
do
have
a
policy
arm
attached
to
you
that
if
you
feel
that
there
is
something
that
we
should
look
at
as
a
policy,
then
that
is
something
that
you
also
need
to
talk
to
us
about.
There
is
another
way
for
us
to
deal
with
certain
things
there
is
that
again.
This
is
why
the
community
mediator
is
going
to
be
a
big
deal.
It's
it's
a
reason
why
we
do
have
the
policy
on.
I
A
I
thank
you
director
ever
and
thank
you.
Josh
see
every
member
josh
thank
off
for
that
question.
I
actually
think
that,
as
we
move
on
to
new
business
and
and
this
is
kind
of
one
of
the
things
that
can
fall
into
that
arena
and
I'm
glad
that
director
everett
mentioned
the
policy
arm
of
crb
and
that
we
can,
you
know,
request
that
opat
look
into
different
policies
and
so
right
now
a
new
business
would
be
the
time
to
ask
anyone.
I
I
So,
just
to
acknowledge
that
this
is
one
of
the
pieces
that
we
did
do
a
final
look
at,
and
I
decided
that
there
were
this
minute
issue
that
made
me
want
to
look
at
it
again
before
it
was
any
presented
to
the
board,
so
that
case
will
present
it
to
the
board
at
a
later
date.
But
it
was
something
that
we
were
looking
at
at
four
o'clock
last
night,
but
I
did
not
want
to
not
acknowledge
case
number
19.
I
I
A
A
We
could
do
so
here
and
I
I
do
think
director
everett,
just
as
a
first
point
and
and
kind
of
piggy
backing
off
crb
member
josh
stankoff's
comment.
It
may
be
a
good
idea
for
for
opat
to
kind
of
look
into
parking,
especially
as
it
intersects
with
kind
of
differently.
Abled
rights
curb
cuts.
You
know
obstructing
sidewalks.
A
I
do
think
especially
the
city
of
boston
is
not
the
most
accessible
as
is,
and
if
there's
any
kind
of
you
know,
policy
that
we
can
look
into
and
kind
of,
just
recommendations
we
could
make
to
bpd
regarding
kind
of
obstructing
cuts
obstructing.
You
know
sidewalks
and
kind
of
you
know,
what's
their
official
policy
on
it
and
how
do
they
think
about
it?
I
think
getting
information
in
that
regard
may
be
especially
given
the
city
that
isn't
super
accessible.
L
A
A
A
H
H
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
policies
I
imagine
that
go
through,
so
there
may
be
some
some
vetting
or
some
deciding
that
certain
policies
regarding
that
are
closer
to
the
crds
mandate
rather
than
some
others.
But
I
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
crb
to
have
an
input,
and
I
just
want
to
suggest
that
this
be
something
that's
a
standing
issue
agenda.
A
You
for
that
crv
member
josh
bankoff.
I
I
I
think,
that's
a
great
idea,
especially
when
newer
policies
are
implemented
or
any
of
the
kind
of
current
policies
to
the
extent
of
pat's
looking
at
them
and
having
discussions
about
them.
You
know
it
should
be
a
standing
agenda
item
and
sometimes
there
won't
be
any
and
we
could
just
move
on,
but
just
create
the
space
to
do
so
wanted
to
get
opac's
view
director
everett.
Do
you
have
a
view
on
this.
I
So
we
do
for
the
old
opec
commission
meetings
on
public
community
meetings.
We
give
updates
on
just
when
we
get
all
of
the
there's,
not
bpd
policy
and
changes
like
there's,
not
a
guarantee
that
there'll
be
a
new
one
that
comes
out
for
a
crb
meeting.
We
get
updates
for
our
oppac
commission
community
meetings,
so
that's
when
they
happen.
In
order
for
there
to
be
a
full
discussion,
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
fullest
discussion
with
the
opec
commission
meeting
about
how
we
engage
it.
I
It
needs
to
be
a
smaller
meeting.
I
I
just
have
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
engage
this,
because
in
order
josh
loves
policy
as
much
as
I
do.
We've
had
this
conversation,
but
I
think
you
know
I'm
going
to
come
in
with
a
little
pen.
Papa
right
now
to
have
a
conversation
about
policy
at
every
meeting
would
take
up
a
substantial
amount
of
time
when
you
have
cases
to
review
without
having
first
reviewed.
I
The
policy
come
up
with
a
summary
of
the
policy
and
had
time
to
fully
discuss
it
in
a
subgroup
somewhere,
and
so
we
would
have
to
figure
out
who's
going
to
be
the
subgroup
and
then
also
have
figured
out
who
the
members
are
that
who
they
are
going
to
be.
So
I'm
happy
to
have
that
conversation.
It's
just
we.
We
need
to
get
there.
I
I
Josh
to
answer
your
question
would
be
during
the
oppat
commission
meetings,
which
are
quarterly
the
community
meetings,
because
that's
when
the
bpd
gives
us
their
updates
for
those
public
those
community
meetings,
because
we
go
out
four
times
a
year
and
we
report
out
and
we
receive
information.
So
that's
when
we
do
receive
public
comments
from
the
community.
It
is
their
time
to
engage
us
and
we
engage
them.
I
I
think
that's
a
great
time
during
right
after
that
meeting,
because
I
believe
our
meetings
for
the
crb
are
also
the
same
time
as
opac
commission
meetings.
I
think
they're
like
a
month
apart.
I
think
that's
a
great
time
for
the
policy
discussion
to
happen
so
that
all
of
those
recommendations
can
come
out
at
the
same
time,
but
if
there's
something
substantial,
I'm
happy
to
bring
it
to
the
board.
I
I
just
don't
know
how
all
of
that
works
if
ever
without
everyone
reading,
I
don't
know
if
everyone
on
here
has
read
all
of
the
rules
like
it's
just.
I
think
it's
a
longer
conversation,
I'm
happy
to
have
the
longer
conversation
josh,
but
you
know
what
I
think
you
know
what
I'm
saying
to
you:
it's
it's.
It's
a
longer
conversation.
A
Okay,
so
just
say
rip
kind
of
re
repeat
what
it
said
is
the
just
to
clarify
that
the
op
meeting
will
be
where
there's
public
comment,
but
also
where
the
police
department
gives
their
you
know
their
overview
or
or
an
update
on
policy,
and
it
may
be
best
to
have
it
there
and
then
possibly.
I
I
would
think
just
putting
this
out
there
that
I
would
think
that,
to
the
extent
of
crb
meetings
being
held
later,
that
could
be
added.
So
they
send
us
something.
A
I
Yes,
but
I
obviously
would
if
something
new
comes
up
like
the
post
commission
and
their
regulations
coming
up,
I'm
gonna
bring
that
to
the
board
that
just
happened
last
week,
where
this
board
meets
every
form.
You
know
every
quarter
of
every
four
months:
it's
gonna,
it's
it's
gonna
have
this
with
three
months.
It's
gonna
keep
doing
this.
You
you
it's
on
the
same
line
as
the
commission
meetings.
So
it's
not
that
much
of
a
delay.
It's!
I
I
think
we
just
need
to
have
a
bigger
conversation
about
who
would
sit
on
the
policy
meeting.
That's
it
it
would
actually
serve
as
a
subcommittee,
because
you
would
have
to
look
at
what
the
old
policy
was.
What
the
new
policy
is,
because
what
it
requires
is
for
you
to
make
recommendations.
If
there's
going
to
be
any
changes
to
it,
it's
just
a
bigger
conversation.
I'm
I'm
definitely
happy
to
have
it.
I
love
policy
work,
I'm
not
saying
no
to
it.
It's
just
who
wants
who
wants
to
be
a
part
of
it?
I
A
Yeah,
so
I
guess
in
that
regard,
maybe
next
crb
meeting
as
one
of
the
items
on
the
agenda
would
just
be
kind
of
how
subcommittee's
formed
and
we
don't
have
to
have
the
answer
there,
but
maybe
just
some
additional
kind
of
items
on
on
that,
in
particular,
just
so
kind
of
as
an
update
to
this
specific
conversation
about
policy.
Just
so
you
know
for
the
next
meeting,
we
should
be
able
to
kind
of
talk
about
it
a
little
bit
more.
Does
that
make
sense?
E
I
Gung-Ho
to
do
this
anytime,
he
can
call
me-
and
I
can
spend
hours
talking
to
him-
it's
other
members.
They
want
to
be
involved
it.
I
think
it
doesn't
happen
every
day.
It's
not
like
every
week
that
policy
changes.
So
if
the
chair
is
willing
to
name
a
sub
group,
we
I'm
willing
to
have
that
conversation
with
those
who
want
to
do
it
and
then
figuring
out
a
realistic
schedule
for
the
members
to
meet.
I
Obviously,
I'm
not
a
part,
a
member
of
crb,
so
you
would
need
to
name
the
board
member
who
is
it's
a
structure
or
change
that
a
structure
that
needs
to
be
created
within
the
board,
and
I
am
happy
with
my
staff
to
assist
in
what
that
looks
like.
So
it's
really
something
that
the
boy
should
decide
to
do
and
whatever
way
that
we
can
support
the
work,
I'm
happy
to
do.
A
A
G
I
Seems
to
work
if
board
members
want
to
do
a
10
a.m.
That's
fine,
but
11
a.m
seems
to
work
for
now.
I
know
that
when
we
spoke
before
we
were
looking
at
along
a
meeting
as
time
goes
on,
but
I'm
looking
for
10
am
to
11
am
for
the
next
meeting
in
august
and
obviously
when
we
do
the
one
in
person,
we
can
vote
on
that
in
august
for
the
fall
one,
but
you
can
plan
for
11
a.m.
A
I
A
In
august
and
just
a
point
on
public
comment,
the
commission
meetings
are
set
up
for
more
public
comment
at
crb
meetings.
We're
going
to
be
discussing
the
items
on
the
agenda,
but
also
there'll
be
executive
sessions
where
we
kind
of
deliberate
on
cases.
That's
going
to
be
the
structure
most
of
the
times
and
we'll
you
know
reconvene
later
to
to
adjourn
the
meeting,
but
to
the
extent
that
there's
updates
or
questions
regarding
dispositions
and
decisions
made
at
crb
meetings,
it's
best
to
bring
it
to
the
commission,
one
to
conserve
resources.
A
Commission
three
folks,
we
can
share
information
there
and
have
the
public
comment,
because
there
are
public
comment.
Me
public
comment
sessions
there
at
the
at
the
commission
meetings
and
the
community
meetings
and
that
that's
where
it's
best,
you
know
kind
of
best
made.
I
I
think
you
know
to
the
extent
people
put
things
in
the
chat
like
they
are
now
and
we're
addressing
them.
We'll
do
so,
but
I
I
I
think
we
want
to
be
able
to
conserve
resources,
especially
when
we're
going
to
be.
A
You
know
going
into
executive
sessions
for
some
time
reviewing
case
materials
and
that's
going
to
take
a
substantial
amount
of
time
again.
The
commission
meetings
will
be
having
public
comment
open
and
on
a
case
by
case
basis.
There
may
be
need
for
public
comment
at
crb
meetings,
but
I
really
see
the
commission
as
having
that
that
role
we
could
discuss
further,
but
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
A
I
No,
if
you
go
to
the
boston
police
department,
to
file
a
complaint,
you
would
file
a
complaint
with
the
boston
police
department.
If
you
come
to
no
different,
if
you
came
to
our
offices
at
2201
washington
state,
I
feel
like
I'm
commercial,
I'm
in
the
vienna
square.
We
would
not
advise
you
that
you
would
go
to
boston
police
department
unless
you
access,
if
there's
a
different
place
or
you
can
follow
that
the
post
commission
and
you
actually
can
file
at
the
boston
police
department,
the
post
commission
or
at
opec.
I
I
mean
you
have
three
options
of
where
you
can
file
complaints
at
now,
but
they
are
not
directed.
The
way
that
boston
police
department
would
send
you
to
our
office
is
if
you
did
receive
a
finding
from
boston
police
department,
and
you
did
not
like
the
finding.
You
wanted
to
appeal.
All
appeals
do
come
to
the
office
of
police,
accountability
and
transparency.
I
No
because
the
eternal
affairs
department
they
the
complaints,
go
there.
We
do
not
handle
criminal
complaints,
so
you
still
have
to
have
complaints.
Go
there.
If
criminal
complaints
go
here,
we're
working
that
out.
So
there
are
the
complaints
we-
and
this
is
why
year
two
we
did
year,
one
and
we're
still
going
to
do
it
in
year,
two
is
doing
foundational
building
and
but
year
two
is
a
lot
more
effort
and
that's
why
I
started
with
working
with
meeting
with
all
the
city.
I
Councilors
is
really
working
with
them
to
get
the
constituents
to
know
that
their
visitors
know
that
we
exist
where
we
are
located,
what
services
that
we
provide
and
how
we
can
be
a
resource
and
so
really
getting
to
know
opac
giving
to
the
opec
is
what
we
are
looking
forward
to
doing
in
year
two,
and
so
we
are
relying
on
the
public
to
do
it.
Having
these
board
meetings,
I'm
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
that
area,
working
with
the
communications
chief,
I'm
jessica,
pierre,
to
really
work
on.
I
How
do
we
get
that
information
out
there,
because
a
lot
of
people
do
not
know
what
we
do
here?
There
was
a
lot
of
effort
around
police
reforms
a
couple
of
years
ago,
but
we
have
to
do
the
work
to
again
move
beyond
the
marches
and
what
does
that
look
like
from
the
policy
standpoint,
police
misconduct
and
where
the
community
can
seek
help
at
or
be
of
support
here?
So
we're
doing
the
work
in
year
two
and
we
will
be
relying
on
you
as
board
members
to
help
us
do
that.
Work
too.
A
A
Okay,
awesome.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
crb
member
ann
hernandez
to
the
extent
there's
an
opportunity
to
collaborate
with
bpd
in
terms
of
website
or
posting
of
crb,
like
you
can
make
your
complaint
here.
I
don't
know
you
know
I.
I
think
that
that
would
be
worthwhile
and
and
looking
into
like
where
someone
goes
on
the
bpd
website
or
goes
to
make
a
complaint.
There
could
be.
You
know
the
op.
A
I
I'm
gonna
look,
don't
quote
me
on
this,
but
there
is
I
apologize
here.
You
all
can
see
me,
but
I'm
looking
online,
but
I
believe
there
is
a
link
somewhere
and
someone
from
my
team
can
look
it
up,
but
there
is
a
link
from
bpd
to
us
somewhere
on
their
website.
We
do
work
collaboratively
with
bpd
on
things,
and
so
they
did
link
our
website,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
If
I
can
find
it.
If
I
can
find
it,
I
will
drop
it
in
the
chat,
but
there
is
a
link.
A
Yeah
I
get
I,
I
understand
the
concern
that
some
of
the
members
of
the
community
are
making
with
respect
to
just
having
that
automatic,
if
not
automatic,
which
is
they're
not
required
to
by
the
by
the
ordinance,
but
having
kind
of
you
know
different
spaces
where,
when
folks
go
and
encounter
them
instead
of
having
to
make
the
complaint
internally
because
they
may
or
may
not
know
about
opat,
you
know
having
that
space
that
you
know
different
avenues
from
the
ppd
website
or
even
posting
their.
You
know
apps
in
an
ordinance.
A
I
I
Main
it's
our
communications
office,
so
we
just
started
doing
it.
So,
oh
I
don't
know,
I
just
hit
something.
Sorry,
hopefully
you
can
still
see
me
my
computer,
my
screens
just
went
blank,
so
it
is
our
is
our
collective
responsibilities.
Your
collective
responsibility
is
everyone's
collective
responsibility
to
let
everyone
know,
but
we
are
working
with
the
mayor's
office.
The
chief
of
communication,
like
I,
was
just
saying
it's
something
that
we
are
working
on.
I
We
are
being
more
visible
so
again,
like
we
went
out
to
the
job
fairs
for
youth
enrichment
programs.
For
the
summer
we
are
going
to
be
coffee
in
the
box,
we're
doing
things
to
make
ourselves
more
visible.
We
have
our
website
where
we
put
things
on
there,
so
boston.gov
backslash
op.
We
put
things
out
there,
obviously
because
of
confidentiality
of
why
people
come
to
us.
We're
not
going
to
have
a
twitter
account
we're
not
going
to
have.
I
You
know
like
we're
not
going
to
have
these
accounts
that
are
normal
like
ways
of
reaching
out
to
people
because
of
the
confidentiality.
No
one
wants
to
say
we
resolve
like
10
cases
today.
Will
we
like
that's
not
like
what
we
can
do
so
it
is
the
real
grassroots
getting
out
there
letting
people
know
who
we
are,
what
they
can
do
in
our
office
and
how
we
can
be
supportive
of
them.
So
that's
that's
where
we're
at
right
now.
I
K
A
Very
west
question
crb
member
carrie
mays.
I
think
you
know
it's
important
to
you
know:
people
can
utilize
the
resources
and,
and
the
more
folks
are
actually
making
their
cl
planes
directly
to
crb
the
better
so
that
it
doesn't
get
kind
of
caught
up
in
internal
affairs
investigations
and
it
could
be
kind
of
done
through
this
avenue
is
always
preferable.