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From YouTube: OPAT Commission Public Meeting - 07/21/2022
Description
Recording of the Office of Police Accountability and Transparency (OPAT) Commission's public meeting held virtually on Thursday, July 21st, 2022.
A
Hello,
everyone
so
good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
joining
the
opec
commission
for
a
public
meeting
today.
My
name
is
stephanie
everett,
I'm
the
director
executive
director
of
the
office
of
police,
accountability
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
open
to
the
public
and
is
being
recorded,
and
so
before
we
start
there
are
some
housekeeping
matters.
I
wanted
to
go
over.
A
So
all
members
of
the
public,
you
do
have
your
cameras
off,
and
so
you
know
that
we
do
have
zoom's
auto
captioning
on,
so
each
person
will
need
to
opt
in
in
order
to
see
these
captions.
So
you
can
select
live
transcript.
It
should
be
a
button
on
the
toolbar
at
the
bottom
of
your
zoom
screen
to
see
these
captions
and
if
you
can't
see
anything,
you
need
help.
A
Please
go
into
the
chat
function
and
someone
from
my
staff
will
assist
you
in
helping
you
get
through
this
and,
if
you're,
having
any
issues
with
your
audio,
please
do
the
same
thing
go
into
the
chat
and
someone
from
the
opec
staff
will
assist
you
today
and,
as
always,
we
will
post
this
video
on
our
boston.gov
opat
for
people
to
view
it
later.
On
we
do
try
to
make
sure
we
are
just
as
transparent
as
we
are
trying
to
have
others
be.
A
So
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
my
other
commissioners
who
are
in
the
room
with
me
today.
So
opac
commission
is
made
up
of
myself
the
executive
director
of
opac,
as
well
as
the
honorable
leslie
harris
who
chairs
the
eternal
affairs
oversight
panel.
Welcome
and
thank
you
for
being
here
today
and
peter
harris
who's.
The
chair
of
the
civilian
review
board,
who
commonly
referred
to
as
crb.
A
A
A
A
It
allows
for
us
to
have
participation
and
vote
on
matters
and
remotely
that
exec.
It
was
an
executive
order
or
a
law
that
was
signed
by
the
governor
it.
It
ended
on
july
15th
and
prior
to
that
ending
we
did
have
a
board
meeting.
That
was
supposed
to
happen
today
that
we
we've
pushed
back
some,
but
it
when
it
ended.
It
was
supposed
to
be
that
we
would
have
to
have
everybody
come
in
and
we
do
have
the
space
here
at
the
office
to
be
in
person.
A
A
So
what
this
means
is
that
we
can
continue
to
hold
these
meetings,
so
this
is
a
language
that
it's
currently
signed
by
the
governor
this
past
weekend,
the
july
16th.
So
again,
we
can
still
continue
to
have
our
meetings
in
this
space
of
on
zone.
It
does
allow
for
members
of
both
the
civilian
review
board
ourselves,
the
opec
commission,
as
well
as
the
iop
board,
to
participate
and
vote
on
matters
remotely
and
or
we
can
just
choose
to
have
the
meetings
in
person.
A
It
does
also
say
that
we
need
to
provide
adequate,
alternate
alternate
access
to
remote
meetings,
so
it
doesn't
change
anything
else
about
the
open
meeting
laws.
So
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
conversations
about
the
hybrid
conversation
and
there's
bills
that
are
still
pending
about
that.
So
the
adequate
alternate
access
is
something
I
really
wanted
to
focus
on,
because
we
do
have
some
challenges
and
you
can
get
rid
of
this
screen
for
a
second
and
just
go
back
to
the
members.
A
As
you
know,
the
ordinance
requires
that
opac
staff
be
the
keeper
of
all
bpd
files
and
that
it
also
says
that
we
can't
duplicate
files,
which
means,
when
we've
had
these
conversations,
that
we
are
going
to
treat
it
more
similar
to
what
we
do
as
attorneys
it.
Where
we
can
make
copies.
We
can
present
it
to
you
at
the
executive
session
portion
of
of
any
public
meeting
and
you're
allowed
to
look
at
them,
and
then
we
would
collect
that
information
back
and
then
that's
it.
A
We
are
required
by
ordinance
to
the
staff
to
create
summaries
for
both
crb
and
I
up
of
any
investigations
and
review
in
the
case
of
crb.
When
we
are
looking
at
new
cases,
we
will
provide
a
summary
of
that
case
in
iop.
It's
a
review
of
an
iad
decision,
so
we'll
do
a
summary
of
the
review
of
the
files,
but
you,
if
you're
remote,
you
won't
have
a
full
picture
of
everything,
because
you
won't
have
the
file
in
front
of
you,
because
we
cannot
share
it
with
you.
A
So
what
I
wanted
to
have
a
discussion
with
both
of
you
on
today
was
internally.
What
we're
thinking
is
that
both
these
meetings
need
to
happen
in
person
in
person.
We
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
public
participation,
but
for
members
themselves
that
these
that
the
members
themselves
need
to
be
in
person
in
order
to
fully
participate
in
their
duties.
As
members.
C
Just
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
so.
The
august
crb
meeting
do
it
what's
being
proposed
here
is
to
because
I
think
in
the
last
one
we
had
mentioned
to
members
like
that
would
likely
be
remote
at
the
crb
meeting,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
that
we
would
prefer,
or
what
we're
proposing
here
is
to
change
that
to
in
person
given
kind
of
the
difficulties
and
dynamics
of
you
know,
because
if,
if
we
do
go
in
person
and
people
are
remote,
it's
a
little
different
than
this
format.
C
Where
the
last
crb
meeting
everyone
was
there
and
things
were
shared
just
to
our
be
members.
But
if
certain
number
of
folks
are
in
person
it
that
dynamic
just
isn't
going
to
be
there,
because
people
aren't
going
to
be
all
on
screen,
it's
going
to
be
they're,
participating
and
they're
listening
in,
and
they
may
get
the
summary,
but
they're
not
going
to
get
the
documents
that
you
all
have
there,
which
would
be
a
little.
You
know,
it'd
just
add
some.
Is
that
what
I'm
hearing
I
just
wanted
to?
Yes,.
A
So,
just
to
give
you
a
difference
of
what
happened
with
the
last
crb
meeting
versus
the
one.
That's
for
you
know
upcoming
in
august.
So
remember
we
talked
about
for
the
first
crb
meeting
it
was.
We
presented
a
case
that
was
going
to
be
dismissed.
There
were
no
personnel
matters
being
discussed.
We
didn't
have
to
go
into
executive
session,
the
complexity
of
going
into
executive
session.
When
you
have
some
members
in
person
and
some
members
on
a
screen,
you
know
presumably
a
projector
screen.
Is
you
all
especially
crb?
A
This
is
you
are
one
of
my
most
challenging
group
to
think
about?
Is
you
have
to
go
into
executive
session?
There's
an
exception
for
you
to
be
an
executive
session
because
you're
talking
about
personal
matters,
police
officers
are
personnel
matters,
one
or
civilian,
so
it
would
be
personnel
matters,
you'd,
be
looking
at
the
complainant
issue.
A
The
other
problem
is
we
can't
duplicate
files,
so
I
can't
collect
a
file
that
I've
sent
in
an
email
because
I'm
not
able
to
send
it
in
an
email.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
this,
how
that's
going
to
work
where
we
are
having
someone
look
at
documents
and
participate
fully
in
our
conversation
when
they
haven't
been
able
to
fully
see
the
file?
C
A
A
So
you
all
get
spread
out
more,
but
I
think
it's
just
more
of
the
case
of
just
having
access
to
the
same
information
at
the
same
time
and
being
able
to
make
informed
decisions
without
violating
any
of
the
rights
of
of
any
of
the
officers
or
civilian
personnel
that
you
may
be
looking
at,
because
you
don't
have
all
the
information
and
we're
not
violating
the
audience.
By
trying
to
get
you
information
that
we
can't
duplicate.
C
A
C
A
A
There
are
things
that
can
happen
that
the
public
can
possibly
participate
in
and
even
though
there
is
no
requirement
either
through
the
open
meeting
laws
or
through
our
ordinance
that
the
either
panel
or
board
has
to
have
dialogue
with
the
community
or
have
comment
periods
you
it's.
I
know
that
you
all
both
of
you
are
chairs,
have
taken
time
to
answer
some
questions
that
have
come
up
in
chats
or
you
know.
A
If
time
permits,
opec
commission
is
the
one
where
we
have
to
take.
You
know
give
and
receive
that's
four
times
a
year.
We
do
that.
So
just
trying
to
you
know
figure
that
all
out
we've
talked
about
just
recording
it
in
zoom
and
posting
it
online,
so
that,
because
again
you
all
have
to
come
in.
We
have
a
projector.
A
This
stuff,
so
there
is
a
way
that
we
could
possibly
just
record
the
public
reading
section
and
then
just
post
it
online
so
that
there
is
still
those
two
options,
so
you
can
probably
still
have
someone
else.
Do
the
trend
have
the
transcript
and
the
video
still
be
available
online
so
that
those
that
can't
be
in
person
can
still
participate.
You
know
see
it
and
still
send
us
some
of
their
comments.
A
So
there's
other
ways
that
you
can
actually
make
sure
people
are
hurt,
and
if
it's
something
that's
immediate,
we
can
find
ways
to
make
sure
that
the
staff
is
actually
responding
to
someone.
I
think
that
there's
some
creative
ways
that
we
can
do
this
and
make
sure
that
the
community
is
involved.
The
concern
we
have
is
that
we
we
don't.
We
don't
have
that
many
staff,
people
that
I
can't
commit
to
having
someone
running
the
zoom,
letting
people
in
taking
comments,
and
of
that.
A
I
think
we
don't
take
that
long
to
post
it
immediately
after
it
goes
up
the
same
day,
then,
if
we
just
make
it
a
point
that
we
put
it
up
the
same
day
within
the
next,
you
know
the
hour
or
two
after
it
happens,
then
that's
something
that
would
make
people
feel
like
it's
not
exactly
real
time,
but
it's
happening
in
a
period
of
time.
That
would
allow
people
to
respond
quickly.
A
B
B
C
Yeah,
I
guess
I
guess
with
respect
to
having
meetings,
if
we're
in
person,
because
I
understand
the
logistical
challenges,
the
judge
brought
something
up,
that
would
the
public
would
it
be
open
to
the
public
to
come
in,
which
I
think
is
fine,
but
also
like
noting.
If,
if
there
is
a
spike
or
like
just
in
terms
of
like
the
public,
like
you
know,
would
they
be?
Would
we
want
people
to
come
in
given
you
know?
I
hope
it
feels
like
it's
like
kind
of
like
increasing
again
I
mean
the
president.
Has
it
every
like?
A
A
There's
a
testing
site
right
across
the
street
at
the
bowling
building.
So
we
will
recommend
that
people
get
tested
and
we
actually
have
testing
kits
that
we
give
out.
So
I
guess
a
great
time
to
say
that
and
the
staff
can
put
that
in
our
chat
too.
We
are
also
a
site
where
you
can
pick
up
testing
kits
because
we
are
in
the
heart
of
new
being
square.
We
thought
it
would
be
perfect
for
us
to
give
out
testing
kids
here.
So
we
can
encourage
people
to
wear
the
mask.
A
We
can
encourage
people
to
get
tested
and
you
can
get
a
test
from
us.
The
you
are
separated
from
public,
though,
because
of
the
fact
that
we
need
to
put
you
into
executive
session.
If
you
remember,
there's
a
divider
between
our
conference
room,
so
public
is
on
one
side
of
the
conference
room
and
you
are
on
the
other
side
of
the
conference
room.
It's
there's
been
a
lot
of
changes
in
here.
A
You
all
need
to
stop
by
so
there's
actually
like
a
different
door
that
they
enter
than
you
they
exit
through
it.
So
it's
totally
different.
So
there
is
a
separation
that
once
you
go
into
executive
session,
we
will
have
to
close
out
the
conference
room
so
because
we
are
going
to
close
out
the
wall
that
separates
for
the
executive
session
to
begin,
we
will
be
separating
you
out
just
a
little
bit
more
the
staff.
A
The
way
the
conference
tables
are
set
up,
that
kind
of
like
in
a
t,
so
the
staff
is
at
the
t,
but
and
the
exec
and
all
the
board
members
are
here.
So
it's
the
board
members,
the
staff
and
then
behind
us
is
the
public
and
right
behind
us
is
the
staff
is
where
the
closing
of
the
the
conference
rooms
the
split
is
at
so
there
is
separation
between
everyone.
B
A
Do
it
august
9th
yeah?
Thank
you
what
time
11
all
the
meetings
start
at
11.?
Oh
well,
that's
that's!
We
do
have
to
send
out
a
meeting
now
and
to
let
everybody
know
that
it's
going
to
be
in
person,
so
that
could
change
some.
So
we
will,
as
your
meeting
has
changed,
so
we're
going
to
change.
We
will
have
to
adjust
some
and
we're
fine
with
that
in
our
office.
A
Adjusting
because
we
do
know
that
now
things
are
in
person
that
could
change
calendars
for
some
people,
so
I
will
send
out
an
update
and
I'll.
Let
you
know
judge
when
their
meeting
is
in
august,
but
I
think
that's
the
your
next
one
is
not
till
november
after
that,
so
we'll
send
out
the
next
meeting
updates
for
when
they
are
and
they
will
be
here,
but
you
definitely
should
come
and
see
our
new
office.
That's
what's
not
new.
A
A
Sounds
great,
we
do
have
a
hand
raised,
and
I'm
gonna
ask
page
that
you
put
your
comments
in
the
chat
because
we
weren't
really
gonna
do
comments
today.
We
really
were
just
gonna
try
to
stick
to
doing
this
conversation
about
just
deciding
this,
so
we
can
get
this
information
out
to
the
board
members.
While
we
can.
A
So
I
will
it
so
again.
I
will
send
out
what
I'll
do
and
I'll
have
been
doing
this
afternoon
for
both
the
eye
outboard
and
the
ir
panel
and
the
the
crb
and
send
out
the
remaining
dates
for
2022,
because
we
only
did
dates
up
until
2022.
We
didn't
do
dates
for
2023
and
just
confirmed
that
they're
in
person,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
knew
that
you
know
they
have
to
be
here
now
physically
and
if
there's
any
changes,
we'll
work
through
those
changes
and
then
get
some
updated
dates.
A
A
A
A
It
will
be
that
there
will
be
a
recording,
that's
going
on
the
concern
with
lack
of
staffing,
to
have
someone
be
on
zoom
to
make
sure
that
we
have
someone
who
can
let
you
into
the
room,
deal
with
technology
and
be
able
to
answer
your
chat
and
have
people
present
inside
of
physically
present
inside
of
the
room
and
having
community
members?
Who
may
have
questions
too?
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
staffing
to
do
all
of
that.
So
we
need
to
figure
that
out.
A
So
one
of
the
alternatives
that
I
am
trying
to
figure
out,
if
we
can
do,
is
to
actually
post
this
a
zoom
immediately
after
it
happens.
The
way
that
the
board
meetings
will
work
is
we
will
do
just
off
the
top
of
my
head,
the
opening
hive
introductions
and
then
the
acceptance
of
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
meetings
before
my
director's
report,
any
other
businesses.
A
That
may
happen
that
the
board
members
want
to
bring
up,
and
sometimes
we
have
cases
that
fall
outside
the
purview
of
our
office
or
of
that
board
of
some
sort,
and
so
we'll
do
that
and
then
they
go
into
executive
session,
they
meaning
the
iop
board
or
the
crb
the
eye
out
board
when
they
go
into
executive
session.
The
meeting
closes,
the
public
meeting
closes
and
it's
done
there's.
No.
They
don't
come
out
of
executive
session,
so
the
meeting's
over
as
soon
as
that's
they
go
into
executive
session.
A
So
as
soon
as
they
go
into
executive
session
that
meeting
we
can
actually
just
post
the
zoom.
And
so,
if
there's
any
questions
or
comments
from
that,
then
you
can
respond.
An
email
call
or
something
so
that's
one
way
of
doing
it.
But
crb
is
different
because
crb
actually
has
to
vote
in
a
roll
call
type
of
fashion
on
any
decisions
that
they
make.
A
So
when
they
go
into
executive
session,
the
zoom
will
just
be
paused
until
they
come
out
of
executive
session,
because
executive
session
would
not
be
recorded
because
that's
not
something
that's
required.
So
we
just
have
to
figure
that
out,
but
again
there
may
be
a
situation
where
we
would
just
post
part
of
part
one
of
the
crb
on
while
they're
in
executive
session,
and
it
may
give
us
time
to
answer
questions
why
the
members
are
in
executive
session.
A
A
And
I
I
agree
that
we
should
have
community
input,
but
that's
what
the
opec
commission
meetings
are
for
the
iop
meeting
and
the
iop
meetings
in
the
crb
meetings
are
not
meetings
where
community
input
and
questions
and
comments
come
in
the
big
opec
commission
meetings
which
happen
four
times
a
year
and
actually
they're
happening
more
than
that.
I
think
this
is
probably
our
fifth
or
sixth
meeting
of
the
year.
A
They.
This
is
where
the
community
meetings
come
in.
The
comments
come
in.
This
is
exactly
what
the
opec
commission
meeting
is
for
the
crb
meetings
which
we're
talking
about
in
this
ayat
meetings
which
are
focusing
on
today.
Those
are
the
meetings
where
that
won't
happen
for
this
opec
commission
meetings,
I'm
pretty
sure
we
will
have
to
figure
out
the
I
up.
We,
we
definitely
have
to
figure
out
the
hybrid
for
the
opec
commission
meetings,
because
that's
what
it's
for.
C
C
Was
more
of
a
logistical
like
this
was
not
a?
This
is
a
meeting
to
get
us
synced
up,
partly
because
of
public
meeting
laws,
make
it
difficult
for
the
three
commissioners,
even
two
of
us,
to
communicate
without
having
a
meeting
so
just
want
to
clarify
there
and
also
just
another
point
of
clarity
for
crb
and
iop
just
recall
all
board
members
get
paid
while
they're
there.
That's
not
the
case
for
commission
meetings,
so
preserving
public
resources.
C
We
don't
want
the
public
to
have
to
pay
for
people
to
comment
and
that's
why
we
reserve
one
meeting
in
particular
the
the
community
meeting
with
that
that
happens
at
least
four
times
a
year
that
is
open
to
public
comment
and
there
is
no
public
resources
in
terms
of
like
hourly
going
into
it.
So
you
know
just
just
thinking
of
the
balance
of
of
equities
there
in
terms
of
how
that
works
out.
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
for
anyone
who
listens-
and
you
know
just
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
C
A
A
Once
we
get
that
all
confirmed,
I
will
send
it
out
to
the
entire
group
so
that
everyone
is
on
board
to
know
when
everyone
is
meeting
in
case
there
is
some
participation
on
either
side
of
wanting
to
be
in
these
meetings.
I
will
figure
out
a
hybrid.
I
definitely
will
will
talk
to
my
staff,
but
we
we
are
definitely
going
to
have
to
do
hybrid
for
our
opac
community
meetings,
because
it
does
require
input
and
output
from
the
community
and
again
we
are
working
on
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
the.
C
Yeah,
commissioner,
I
just
had
one
item:
that's
related
on
just
the
open
meeting
law
and
just
finding
ways-
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
talked
to
legal
on
how
you
and
I
or
you
and
judge,
can
communicate
on
logistical
things.
You
know,
I
know
it's
difficult
but,
like
you
know,
it
is
really
difficult.
Sometimes
it's
something
very
simple
and
it's
very
hard
to
communicate
on
a
logistical
item
and
and
just
trying
to
figure
that
out.
A
I
said
the
same
thing:
I
need
to
be
able
to
talk
to
them
without
always
calling
a
meeting,
and
so
the
answer
first
was
that
you
just
have
to
call
a
meeting
and
go
into
executive
sessions,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
things
that
we
talk
about
are
actually
things
that
we
can
talk
about
in
public
form
and
some
things
you
know
lawsuits.
Of
course
we
can
talk
about
personnel.
A
A
What
one
of
them
I
I've
already
said:
it's
a
priority,
I'm
on
it.
So
I
apologize.
I
I
didn't
see
this.
I
should
say
this
that
my
staff
has
told
me
that
I
need
to
be
reading
out
loud
the
questions
and
comments
that
are
coming
into
chat,
but
I'm
not.
I
didn't
see
that
so
I
apologize
so
I
was
responding
to
paige
fox
the
question.
The
conversation
that
we
were
having
was
in
response
to
just
so
that
we
have
this
on
record
before
the.
A
Okay,
so
I
appreciate
again
you
the
my
two
commissioners
joining
me
as
we
try
to
move
this
work
forward.
We
are
hopeful
that
everyone
is
available
to
be
in
public
next
month
for
the
crb
meeting.
We
have
also
moved
our
iop
meeting
that
was
scheduled
originally
for
today
to
next
month,
and
I
believe
that
is
august.
A
17Th
17th,
yes,
august
17th
is
the
internal
affairs
oversight
panel
that
will
be
in
part
person
at
1
30
here
at
2201
washington
street
in
roxbury.
We
will
make
the
recording
publicly
available
again
when
I
out
goes
into
executive
session.
Their
meeting
publicly
closes
immediately
so
as
soon
as
I'm
done
with
my
executive
director's
report
and
any
other
business
that
may
come
out
from
the
board
members,
they
go
into
executive
session
and
the
public
meeting
portion
of
it
is
closed.