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Public Improvement Commission Hearings 11-05-20
A
C
A
So
moved
moving
on
to
the
utility
bowl
hearing
continued.
Our
first
item
is
on
a
joint
petition
by
verizon
new
england,
inc
and
eversource
energy
for
a
poll.
Relocation
within
montmorency
avenue
a
public
way
in
east
boston
to
relocate
one
existing
utility
pole
to
be
located
on
its
northeast
side
with
address
number
24
generally
east
of
orion
ave.
This
was
at
his
first
utility
public
hearing
on
october
22nd
2020.
C
Yes
good
morning,
can
everybody
hear
me
we
can
ross
all
right.
My
name
is
ross
billingham,
representing
bryson
new
england.
Like
you
said,
this
is
a
continuation.
From
the
last
hearing
you
had
asked
verizon
in
eversource
to
go
in
reconsider
where
this
poll
was
being
located,
which
we
did
do
I
have
permission
to
share
my
screen.
C
Okay,
can
everybody
see
that
we
can
okay?
Originally,
we
were
looking
to
relocate
this
pole
to
the
east
eight
feet,
which
would
have
put
it
in
number
in
front
of
number
24.
The
way
the
pole
sits.
Now
it's
right
on
the
property
line
between
the
two
homes.
Well,
we
have
decided
to
move
it
30
feet
in
the
opposite
direction,
which
would
keep
it
in
front
of
number
20.
A
Great
and
the
home,
the
property
owner
at
20
mountain
warranty
is
aware
of
this.
A
Are?
Okay
all
right,
any
other
questions
or
comments
by
members
of
the
commission.
D
We're
all
set
on
this.
We
appreciate
verizon's
any.
A
A
If
you
remember
the
public
who's
interested
in
commenting
on
this
either
feel
free
to
put
your
name
in
the
chat
or
unmute
yourself
and
introduce
yourself.
A
All
right
hearing,
none
I'll,
entertain
and
motion
this
item.
I
do
think
joe
you
mentioned
earlier
that
you
know
what
I'm
saying
I
just
refer
to
you,
I'm
not
I'm
not.
E
Yes,
please
I'd
just
like
to
note
for
the
record
for
this
vote
only
I
I
will
abstain
from
voting.
A
Thank
you
thanks.
So
much
all
right,
I'll,
entertain.
F
G
D
A
Moved
thank
you
so
much
moving
on
to
our
next
item
of
public
hearing
continued
on
a
petition
by
verizon
new
england
inc
for
a
granted
location
with
lead
company
status
and
no
participants
to
install
new
telecommunication
conduit
with
city
shadow
within
the
following
public
ways.
In
roxbury,
the
locations
are
emery
street
generally
south
of
center
street,
the
emory
street
connector
east
of
america
street
center
road
at
amory
street.
This
was
new
business.
A
On
october,
8th
2020
had
its
first
public
hearing
on
october
22nd
2020,
and
this
is
shown
on
a
set
of
plans
entitled
city
of
boston,
public
works,
department,
engineering,
division,
specific
repairs,
plan,
gordon
avenue,
child
street
braeburn
road,
hale
street
hyde
park,
ave
four
sheets.
Sorry
high
park,
four
sheets
to
hit
it
september,
18
2020.
C
All
right
again,
my
name
is
ross
billano
representing
verizon
new
england.
Like
you
stated,
this
was
originally
presented.
Two
weeks
ago,
you
had
asked
us
to
go
back
and
work
with
zach
a
little
more
regarding
any
future
changes
and
projects
and
making
sure
that
this
project
would
not
be
impacted.
We
did
so,
and
he
came
back
and
he
told
us
that
the
way
the
conduit
was
proposed
right
now
would
be
right
in
the
middle
of
the
existing
curb
line.
C
A
H
Sorry
achieve
the
punchline
and
ross.
This
is
mostly
for
your
benefit,
appreciate
the
outreach
which
you
have
done.
That's
very
commentable
on
your
path.
The
city's
desire
is
to
try
and
minimize
any
drama
in
the
future
when
we
are
going
to
rebuild
that
roadway
because,
as
you
should
know,
and
I'll
for
the
thousandth
time,
I
will
put
it
on
the
record
where,
when
the
city
has
to
do
roadway,
reconstruction
work,
indian,
all
utilities
will
have
to
go
at
the
expense
of
the
utilities
and
to
meet
our
timeline
needs.
H
So
I'm
trying
to
minimize
any
future
drama,
but
I
appreciate
all
that
you
have
done
to
try
and
find
that
ideal
location
so
that
you
will
not
have
to
incur
digging
and
installing
your
utilities
twice
okay,
so
that
was
the
singular
interest
on
my
part
not
for
the
city's
inability
to
do
our
work,
because
when,
when
I
have
a
revelation,
all
utilities
will
be
adjusted
at
the
expense
of
the
utilities.
That's
the
right
which
the
city
has.
I
just
don't
like
wasting
anyone's
money.
Okay,
so
that
was
the
purpose
of
that
comment.
H
D
A
Thanks
so
much
todd,
and
so
the
the
actual
set
of
plans
is
obviously
switzerland,
aimery
street
and
not
the
set
up
streets
that
I
had
read
out.
Initially
any
questions
or
comments
by
members
of
the
public.
B
Make
a
motion
to
approve
grant
a
location
petition
by
verizon
new
england
for
injury
street
emory
street
connector
and
center
road
is
right
into
the
record
by
the
chair.
G
A
All
in
favor
all
right
so
moved
thanks
so
much
ross.
Thank
you
again
moving
on
to
new
business
and
just
wanted
to
note
that
a
few
items
that
have
been
on
the
original
agenda
for
new
business
are
not
on
for
this
breakout
hearing
and
will
likely
be
on
two
weeks
from
now,
and
so
we
have
just
three
items
with
new
business,
washington,
street
west,
8th
street
and
that's
stewart
church
and
shopping.
So
our
first
item
of
new
business
is
545
washington
street
in
boston,
proper.
F
Hello,
this
is
brad
fredricks,
with
the
french
quarter
joined
with
a
by
stuart
petrol,
srp
science
design
manufacturer
trying
to
try
to
put
aside
on
545
washington
street,
currently
operating
this
french
quarter
used
to
be
the
salvatorius
location.
G
A
I
This
is
a
this
is
a
sort
of
a
considered
sort
of
a
blatant
dying.
It's
a
double-sided
sign
sort
of
triangular,
as
you
see
in
plan
the
it's
all
open
inside.
It's
that
triangle
is
open
to
the
to
the
air,
and
so
it's
sort
of
like
two
signs
that
meet
in
the
middle
right
and
they
project
over
the
sidewalk.
I
A
No
problem
it
is
showing
is
projecting
out
80
inches
of
120
inch
yeah.
I
Wide
sidewalk,
so
I
mean
the
sign:
we're
we're
bolting
it
to
existing
we're
trying
to
use
all
existing
holes
from
you
know.
We
we
met
with.
Was
it
landmarks
and
we're
using
we're
trying
to
make
no
new
holes
in
the
in
the
in
the
larger
slabs
of
granite,
we're
using
we're
going
into
mortar
joints
and
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
existing
holes
that
we
can
use
with
with
epoxy?
I
And
then
let's
see
so
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
talk
about
the
way,
the
sign
lights
up
or
anything
like
that,
but
we
tried
to
keep
the
design
well,
I
didn't
design
them
where's
the
fabricators,
but
it's
it's
designed.
You
know
with
the
spirit
of
the
french
quarter
as
well.
As
you
know,
in
new
orleans,
as
well
as
what
we
see
in
the
theater
district
right
there
next
door.
I
You
know
with
the
paramount
and
all
that
stuff
and
brad
you
could
probably
talk
about
the
original
signage
that
was
on
that
building.
You
know
50
years
ago
it's
sort
of
been
cooking
with
some
of
that
as
well.
Stuart.
A
Is
the
other,
is
the
lighting
dynamic
or
is
it
static
static?
And
then-
and
this
may
be
noted-
I
might
just
miss
it
and
defer
to
the
child
and
obvious
about
necessity,
but
is?
Is
the
science
itself
heat
trace
and
internally
drained.
I
Say
acid,
are
you
asking
fatigue
traced?
No?
Well
we
don't.
We
don't
think
it's
necessary,
but
we
can
do
it
if,
if
it
needs
to
be
done,
I
mean
the
way
we'd
heat
trace.
It
is,
you
know
the
kind
of
stuff
that
you
use
on
roofs.
That's
just
a
wire
that
light
that
heats
up
it's.
If
we
don't
have
to
do
it,
we
won't
do.
We
were
kind
of
hoping
to
to
put
it
up
and
see
if
it's
a
problem
and
then
add
it.
I
But
if
it's
a
it's
a
if
it's
a
record
requirement
of
the
board,
then
you
know
we'll
make
it
happen
now.
I
You
know
it's
only
14
inches
wide,
there's
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
build
up
and
you
know,
but
I
understand
it
is
over
the
public
way.
So,
whatever
whatever
you
guys
decide.
H
Can
you
hear
me
stuart,
can
you
hear
me?
Oh.
H
I
H
Side
view,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
the
need
for
the
game
pricing.
I
don't
want
you
to
do
it
if
it
doesn't
need
to
be
done.
The
purpose
of
the
key
facing
is
to
ensure
that
I
signal
yes,
because
you
are
the
site
manufacturer,
but
which
engineering
needs
to
testify
whether
you
were
designed
it's
sufficient
in
terms
of
the
concepts
pic
has
because
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
who
signed
the
plans
and
I
believe,
with
josh
may
for
mr
fredericks,
if
you
could
be
ever
so
kind
to
have
someone
from.
I
I
So
is
that
something
that
we
could?
I
know
this
is
a
sort
of
a
preliminary
meeting,
and
then
we
go
on
to
the
actual
business.
This
is
is
that
I
think
the
way
it
works
so
something
that
we
could
bring.
You
know
to
or
provide
for
the
next
meeting
with
that.
I
F
We'll
just
have
niche
engineering
take
a
look
at
that
yeah.
J
This
is
chris
heineck
with
mitch.
Hey
he's
not
on
the
call
this
morning,
but
I
can
I
can.
I
have
these
notes
down
I'll
talk
to
him
about.
G
A
G
A
All
right
is,
does
is
two
weeks
enough
time
for
you
brad
stewart.
E
Llc
hello,
can
you
hear
me
we
can
hi
good
members
of
the
board.
Thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
me
today.
My
name
is
doug
stefanov,
I'm
the
architect
representing
steve
hill
at
177,
west
8th
street
in
south
boston.
E
We
come
before
you
with
a
petition
to
create
a
36
foot,
wide,
curb
cut
to
serve
four
parking
spaces
for
a
new
three
family
building
planned
on
the
corner
of
wark
street
and
west
8th
street
in
south
boston.
This
curb
cut
would
allow
access
to
four
on-grade
parking
spaces.
On
the
first
floor
of
the
building,
I
can
bring
up
my
site
plan
if
you'd
like.
E
A
It
does
not
yet,
if
you're
having
trouble
doing
it,
we
can
also
bring
up
the
second.
D
A
We
see
that
you've
pulled
it
up,
but
it's
very,
very
small.
At
least
there
we
go.
E
Okay,
there
we
go
sorry
familiar,
so
this
is
updated.
We
still
have
a
few
corrections
as
requested
recently,
but
this
does
show
let
me
zoom
in
a
little
bit
there
for
you,
the
curb
cut,
and
we
have
a
five
foot
point.
Four
seven
wide
curves,
so
lark
street
is
a
small
side
street
in
south
boston.
E
There
was
an
existing
single
family
there
before
eighth
street
has,
as
you
can
see
in
the
fight,
we
have
a
fire
hydrant
and
a
light
pole.
Both
that
would
remain
in
place
and
a
handicap
ramp
on
the
corner.
E
The
intent
here
the
neighbors
were
concerned
about
parking,
and
this
allows
for
cars
to
turn
into
the
four
spaces
that
would
exist
between
the
and
the
curves.
As
you
see.
A
E
A
H
H
H
Some
of
the
dimensions
that
has
been
put
for
these
plants
by
your
civil
engineer
shows
the
level
of
accuracy
that
is
unrealistic.
Having
a
driveway
opening
for
36.84
translates
to
10.02
inches.
So
could
you
please
instruct
your?
Not
your
architect.
You
are
the
architect,
your
civil
engineer,
the
employers
that
are
more
realistic
of
what
is
actually
going
to
get
built
over
there
on
a
32
right
of
way.
We
normally
have
to
fight
sidewalks,
and
I
will
continue
to
see
guidance
from
my
pic
staff
as
to
what
that
dimension
need
to
be.
H
B
E
B
Decimal
places,
tolerance
between
your
driveway
dimension,
just
so
a
rational
number.
E
A
E
Well,
yeah,
just
to
mention
I
did
get
comments
back
from
sarah
late
and
so
the
plan
is
the
ballots
will
be
removed.
The
ram
reconstructed
two
w
specifications
great
boots
will
be
saw
cut
instead
of
tools
and
there's
no
handicap
sparking
the
handicapped
parking
spaces
adjacent
to
the
project
site.
I
just
haven't
had
time
to
reply
great.
I.
H
Course,
thank
you
amy.
I
have
a
question
for
you
right
now.
I
believe
the
mr
stefanov
and
his
team
wants
free,
has
three
parking
spots
to
support
this
driveway
entrance.
Normally
we
don't
put
36
foot
driveways
to
for
for
a
building
of
this
nature.
I'll
take
my
point
with
absurdity.
If
there
were
five
units
with
five
crowd
level,
parkings
embedded
within
the
building,
would
you
have
a
dry
day
opening
that
is
60
feet
wide?
So
this
is.
H
I
don't
remember
whether
large
street
is
a
one-way
or
a
two-way
street,
but
creating
this
type
of
driveway
openings
can
be
a
little
bit
more
challenging
in
terms
of
having
uniform,
herb
cuts
for
ada
purposes
and
a
host
of
other
things.
So
I'm
just
it's
a
it's.
A
joint
public
works
transportation
department
issue
of
having
a
driveway
opening
of
36
feet
just
so
that
three
property
owners
individual,
can
have
a
parking
spot,
fed
off
immediately
off
the
public
right
of
day.
B
Yeah,
I
mean
honestly,
that's
why
this
was
kicked
to
pic
versus
being
on
the
driveway
application.
I
believe
that
they're
getting
four
vehicles
in
here
and
it's
it's
coming
down
to
them
being
side
by
side
and
and
how
we
get
them
out
of
here.
I
think
that
maybe
the
transportation
and
department
and
the
public
works
department
might
have
settled
on
a
slightly
different
layout
for
this,
but
here
we
are
so.
I
think
that
this
is
as
tight
as
it's
gonna
get
and
rationally
get
those
four
cars
in
there.
A
Also,
members
of
the
public,
david
nope
yeah,
all
right,
doug,
we'll
see
you
then
in
two
weeks
on
the
19th
that
work
for
you
good.
A
Thanks
so
much
our
final
item
of
new
business
is
212,
stuart
street
church
street
in
shaman
street
boston,
proper,
specific
repairs
and
a
projection
license
on
the
side
of
petitions
by
gugv212,
steward
property,
owning
llc.
K
Hello,
this
is
hopefully
you
can
see
me.
This
is
ryan
soules,
with
the
developer.
Gugv2
212,
stuart
street,
also
known
as
graystar
so
representing
the
development
team
and
the
civil
engineering
and
architecture
team
are
here
as
well,
but
just
wanted
to
to
quickly
introduce
the
project.
This
212
steward
is
a
126
unit,
19
story,
residential
development
currently
under
construction.
We
began
construction
in
january,
had
a
a
few
months
stoppage,
but
are
now
moving
vertical.
K
Just
as
a
quick
background,
graystar
acquired
this
permitted
development
site
in
in
january
of
this
year
from
the
group
that
entitled
and
permitted
it.
K
You
know
the
public
realm
was
a
major
consideration
in
in
improving
this
and
really
creating
kind
of
an
entrance
to
the
bay
village
neighborhood,
and
you
know,
as
kind
of
transactions
go
when
when
this
was
all
coming
together,
the
approved
site
plan
had
to
incorporate
some
comments
from
parks
and
disabilities
that
you
know
ultimately
kind
of
resulted
in
in
somewhat
of
a
kind
of
piece
together
site
plan,
so
we've
subsequently
gone
back
coordinated
with
the
commission
for
disabilities
parks,
the
bay
village,
historic
district
commission
to
to
create
a
site
plan
that
kind
of
balances
the
needs
of
all
those
parties
and
also
meets
the
initial
intent
of
of
this
project
really
being
a
gateway
to
the
bay
village
neighborhood.
K
So
I
think
we're
the
design
team
here
is
going
to
walk
through
the
the
site
plan
updates
and
some
of
the
canopy
revisions
to
improve
transparency
and
kind
of
activate
the
the
street
front
along
stuart
street.
So
I'll
pass
it
along
to
them.
A
J
Thanks
ryan,
thanks
ryan:
this
is
chris
donnie
with
digi
engineering,
so
we're
in
civil
engineering,
the
project,
and
so,
like
ryan
just
said,
this
project
was
previously
actually
approved
by
pic
about
a
year
ago
kind
of
fall
2019.
We
had
been
in
front
of
pic
and
I
think
these
changes-
the
plans
are
relatively
similar
to
what
was
there
before.
There
are
some
changes
that
we'll
walk
through
today.
J
I
think
I'm
going
to
speak
more
to
the
renderings,
because
I
think
they
tell
the
story
a
little
bit
better
because
of
the
changes
themselves
are
mostly
to
surface
treatment
which,
which
shows
the
the
changes
a
little
bit
better.
So
this
is
just
a
rendering
of
the
building
from
across
the
street
kind
of
next
to
the
motor
mart.
J
If
we
go
on
so
this
was
the
approved
site
plan
more
or
less,
we
have
some
pavers
in
church,
so
site
is:
we've
got
stuart
street
on
top
church
street.
Is
this
pedestrian
street
here
and
then
chamette
street
is
the
street
on
the
south
side
of
the
building?
J
There's
existing
brick
sidewalk
here,
which
will
remain?
Will
there
be
some
changes
to
that?
There
really
are
very
few
if
any
changes
on
shamath
street
altogether,
it's
still
included
as
part
of
the
submission
church
street
itself
has
pavers
in
the
middle
or
pad
pavers
in
the
middle,
with
a
concrete,
sidewalk
kind
of
around
the
edges
here,
four
new
trees
and
then
two
existing
trees
to
remain,
and
then
there
was
concrete
sidewalk
with
the
permeable
paper
strip
along
stewart
street
and
then
this
pedestrian,
this
bump
out
for
pedestrian
access.
J
And
you
know
this
was
a
coordination
with
btd
and
active
transportation
for
potential
bike
path
in
the
future.
So
the
changes
as
you
can
see
so
as
ryan
pointed
out
the
the
canopies.
There
are
originally
two
canopies
one
here
and
one
approximately
here
that
it's
been
centralized.
It's
just
a
single
canopy
now
and
so
the
trees
along
stuart
street
had
just
been
reconfigured
so
that
the
canopy
kind
of
fits
a
little
bit
better
along
the
streetscape.
J
Similarly,
along
church
street,
the
paving
as
you
can
it's
changed
a
little
bit
and
then
there's
a
new
tree
that
has
been
added
so
instead
of
four
trees,
we'll
have
five
trees
along
this
strip.
There's
a
landscape
island.
J
This
is
not
in
the
public
way
itself,
but
there's
a
now
a
landscape
island
adjacent
to
the
building,
so
that
concrete
path
to
travel,
we'll
just
run
next
to
that,
and
then
we'll
have
a
concrete
area
in
front
of
the
building
for
access
and,
like
I
said
there
was
there's
really
very
few
changes,
really
no
changes
at
all
along
trauma
street
itself.
J
Here's
just
here's
a
rendering
kind
of
from
above,
taking
a
look
at
it.
We've
got
the
revised
trees
along
stewart
street
canopy,
coming
off
the
building,
new
trees
and
paving
church
street
and
then
street
level.
This
is
standing
on
the
corner
of
shaman
in
church.
Just
looking
at
the
trees
and
the
streetscape
there,
you
can
see
the
sidewalk
with
the
pedestrian
ramp
going
up
along
there,
I'm
just
going
to
run
through
the
pnc
plans.
This
is
just
the
rendering
of
the
canopy.
J
You
know
it's
sloping
back
towards
the
building.
Internally
drained
heat
traced
and
it
extends
precisely
two-thirds
the
width
of
the
sidewalk.
A
J
Yeah,
I
mean,
and
I
think
we
have-
we
have
sasaki
landscape
architecture
on
the
phone.
G
A
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
anything
where
that's
sort
of
with
the
non-standard
materials
are
covered
by
the
lmi
that
presumably
they'll
be
for
this
project
is.
J
That
right,
yes,
and
so
it's
the
same
papers,
they
may
have
a
slightly
different
layout
than
they
were
before,
but
the
pavers
themselves.
I
mean
the
lmi
will
have
to
be
revised
just
to
take
into
account
these
changes,
but
they
were
previously
covered
into
that
they'll
be
covered
under
them.
Revised.
A
And
then
the
one
thing
which
would
ask
you
to
do
between
now
and
the
public
hearing
on
both
shaman
street
and
on
church
street,
or
at
least
shaman
street,
I
think
church
street
as
well.
A
The
lamp
fixtures
are
gas
and
we
had
talked
sort
of
in
a
previous
pic
hearing
about
the
idea
of
having
essentially
the
same
or
a
near
identical
or
identical
historic
fixture,
but
rather
than
having
gas
exploring
whether
there
could
be
an
led
lamp
instead,
but
that's
what
mimics
the
the
gas
mantles
that
exist
today,
you're
gonna
have
that
conversation
with
our
street
lighting
division,
it's
something
which,
for
maintenance,
reasons
and
environmental
reasons.
A
A
Right,
I
I
know
that
I
think
joe
or
anyway,
I
think
you've
heard
of
street
lighting,
that
what
you
have
currently
is
fine.
I
think
we
just
want
to
restart
that
conversation
just
between
now
and
the
public
hearing
about
the
idea
of
the
potential
conversion
sure.
B
I'd
also
say
for
the
public
hearing:
it
would
be
nice
to
get
like
there's
a
lot
of
information
here
that
was
already
approved.
So
just
what's
the
difference,
because
I
a
lot
of
this
looks
the
same,
I'm
getting
the
impression
that
this
is
mainly
a
landscaping
change,
but
it's
it'd
be
nice
to
understand,
specifically
what
is
different
from
what
was
originally
approved
to
what
this
plan
represents.
J
Sure
yeah,
we
can
try
to
think
we
can
find
a
way
to
sort
of
make
that
stand
out
a
little
bit
better.
It
is
primarily
landscaping
besides,
it
can
be
that
being
the
other
major
change.
H
Mr
heart,
me,
please,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
please,
to
follow
on
what
this
coding
statement.
I
am
afraid
what
I'm
going
to
ask
may
have
created
me
determined,
but
better,
be
safe.
Now
on
stuart
stream.
Can
you
walk
me
through
what
are
the
current
parking
regulations
on
the
side
of
the
street
adjacent
to
your
property
because
of
the
bump
out?
Is
it
on
street
parking,
regulated
parking
and
during
snow
emergencies?
H
J
Concerns
chris
sure,
so
the
existing
condition
and
well
at
least
the
previous
condition
before
this
project
would
be.
There
was
a
parking
lot
in
this
location
and
so
there's
a
pretty
large
curb
cut.
So
there
is
no
part
like
no
street
parking
in
the
existing
condition
along
this
side.
This
area,
the
proposed
condition,
would
be
to,
quite
frankly,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
the
parking
idea
was
for
here.
There's
a
curb
cut
here,
which
would
provide
loading
access
for
the
building
temporarily
and
into
this
bay,
which
is
unchanged
from
the
originally
approved
plans.
J
This
bump
out
itself
was
a
coordination
between
the
projects
and
btd
and
that
and
the
bpda-
and
that
was
the
decision
that
was
made
based
on
the
potential
for
the
future
bike
lane
that's
going
to
come
down
stuart
street
in
this
direction.
This
would
basically
it.
I
think,
the
idea
being
that
this
is
removable
quote
unquote
in
the
future,
so
that
whatever
ends
up
getting
built
permanently
here
could
just
easily
be
prone
in.
B
We're
going
to
build
out
a
cycle
track.
Is
that
curb
in
the
right
spot,
so
we
can
leave
this
and
adjust
it
and
continue
rather
than
pulling
this
all
out
again.
J
Yeah,
so
I
think
we
have
that
we
have
an
extension
of
the
vertical
granite
curb
coming
along
the
back
side
here,
so
that
would
basically
be
that
this
this
island
could
be
pulled
out
without
really
impacting
any
of
the
proposed,
like
specialty
sidewalk,
that
we're
proposing
the
actual
width
of
this.
That
was
part
of
the
coordination
we
had
originally
looked
at,
one
that
was
coming,
you
know
substantially
further
out
and
then
looking
at
not
having
one
at
all.
This
was
the
direction
that
we
had
originally
gotten
from
from
the
city.
H
Please
there's
fair
amount
of
noise
at
city
hall,
so
if
you
hear
a
vibration
or
whatever
or
someone
is
hammering
something,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
my
questions
quickly.
Is
stewart
street
a
snow
emergency
art
area?
I'm
going
to
ask
you
binary
questions
because
I
don't
think
you
answered
my
questions
is.
J
No
art
area-
I
do
not
know
the
answer
to
that.
H
J
So
yeah
so
amy
I
mean
I
feel
like
we
should
probably
get
together
and
talk
about
that.
What
what
the
future
plans
are
for
here.
So
we
can
decide
how
this
might
be.
B
B
I
do
remember
us
going
back
and
forth
on
this
bump
out,
but
it
seems
to
me
that,
like
it
matters,
whether
or
not
our
intended
facility
here
in
the
future
would
be
a
sidewalk
level
cycle
track
or
a
street
level
bike
lane,
because
if
it's
going
to
be
sidewalk
level,
I
think
we
can
get
that
outer
curb
in
its
eventual
permanent
location.
B
So
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
really,
where
what's
gonna
happen
for
the
curbside
usage
here,
if
with
this
bump
out
that
there
should
be
some
sign
that
appears
at
least
on
the
leading
edge
of
it,
so
that
it's
obvious
to
a
plow
to
powers
point
so
that
there's
not.
If
there's
nothing
here
that
you
understand
where
the
bump
out
is,
and
we
can
find
out
whether
what
the
the
snow
issue
is
here.
I
believe
that
existing
condition
has
some
sort
of
smaller
bump
out.
There's.
B
We
change
between
roadway
dimensions
there
so
like
it's,
it's
not
it's
it's
different,
but
it's
not
new
right
so,
but
I
do
think
that
we
had
that
whole
driveway
there.
What's
your
curbside
use
in
front
of
your
building.
J
B
J
It's
the
signage
thing
we
can.
We
can
work
through
that
as
long
as,
if
the
bump
out
needs
to
change,
then
I
think
that's
a
kind
of
larger
thing,
but
I
think
if
it's
a
signage
thing
then
we
can.
We
can
work
with
that.
B
Yeah-
and
I
don't
want
to
unwind
the
bump
out
situation,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
six
feet
or
six
inches
from
it
being
in
a
place
where
we
could
leave
it
versus
not.
I
agree.
I
see
you
bending
to
meet
existing
catch
basins
right
so
like
we
are
where
we
are
and
how
far
we
can
get
out
is
how
far
we
can
get
out,
but
if
we
can
get
that
to
a
dimension
that
represents
a
potential
future
cycle
track,
then
that
makes
sense.
B
A
Okay-
and
I
think
in
amy
and
para,
tell
me
come
off
on
this:
there
is
so
with
a
bump
out
today
there
is
there,
aren't
any
street
lights
or
anything
like
that
in
the
within
the
bump
out,
but
there
is
a
btd
sign.
We
just
want
to
keep
some
sort
of
a
movable
vertical
element
like
apt
design,
sort
of
even
that
leading
edge
of
the
bump
out
in
its
final
condition,
whenever
it's
designed.
H
J
B
And
I
know
that
there
is
that
that's
pedestrian
only,
but
that
there
is
some
potential,
maybe
vehicle
that
goes
up
through
there
either
way.
The
I'd
walk
at
the
end
of
this
is
is
not
in
great
shape,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
building
a
sidewalk
that
can
withstand,
even
though,
if
it's
pedestrian
only
if
we're
taking
a
truck
over
this
for
maintenance
or
whatever
it
is
that
we're
not
gonna
end
up
with
the
sidewalk
looking
the
way
it
does
today,.
J
Yeah
we're
playing
it
we're
planning
on
emergency
access
through
here,
so
we're
in
the
pavement
section
is
reflective
of
that.
A
So
if
between
now
the
public
hearing
sort
of
better
define
what
it,
what
has
changed
since
our
last
set
of
pic
approvals,
make
sure
that
we're
sort
of
updating
the
lmi
to
reflect
reflect
that
have
the
conversation
with
street
lighting
around
the
potential
conversion
from
gas
lamps
to
electric
lamps
on
or
led
lights
on,
stuart
and
church,
and
then
the
exploration
will
bump
out
and
then
the
surface
conditions
of
church
street.
That
way.
A
Okay,
all
right
anything
else,
members
of
the
commission.
D
A
All
right,
ryan,
chris,
two
weeks
enough
time,
yep
all
right,
we'll
see
you
on
the
on
the
19th,
then.