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A
A
C
D
C
Yeah,
I
was
gonna
say:
actually
I
think
you
could
go
ahead
and
make
all
of
us
co-hosts.
If
you
want.
You
can
even
make
me
a
host
if
you
want
me
to
that's
what
I
ended
up
doing
with
robin
and
susan
in
the
other
meetings,
just
as
it
was
easier
for
me
to
keep
track
of
the
chat.
While
the
meeting
was
running
so
happy.
C
C
Yep
and
then
I
think
what
I'm
gonna
do
is
just
go
ahead
and
from
the
start
assign
all
the
interpreters,
because
I
believe
we
don't
have
participants
in
the
groups
who
are
choosing
the
spanish
language
channel.
So
the
spanish
channel
is
going
to
be
it's
still
primarily
for
the
public
to
use
and
for
the
recordings,
but
I
believe
everyone
has
been
either
already
knows
the
instructions
by
now
how
to
jump
into
it.
If
they
choose
to
use
it.
So
we
don't
need
to
do
the
unit
little
introduction
at
the
beginning.
A
A
C
C
C
H
E
A
So
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started,
at
least
with
a
couple
of
preliminary
notes.
So,
first,
we
invited
nori
boyd
from
bcha
the
executive
director
of
boulder
county
housing
authority
to
join
us
this
afternoon,
nori's
here
just
to
add
some
expertise
and
perspective
from
the
bcha
standpoint,
if
any
questions
come
up
regarding
bcha
projects
or
pipeline,
etc.
So
thank
you
nori
for
being
here
with
us,
and
then
I
also
want
to
note
just
just
pass
along
really
a
thank
you.
A
Preliminary
preliminarily,
a
thanks
to
everyone
for
for
the
time
and
the
effort
that
you
dedicated
to
to
the
bucket
groups
over
the
past
couple
weeks
and
and
for
your
contributions.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
for
that.
Karen,
do
you
want
to
add
anything
before
we
get
started
on
the
groups
presenting.
G
A
Yes,
thanks.
Thank
you
all.
So
if
there
are
no
immediate
questions,
we'll
go
ahead
and
the
the
agenda
is
in
the
chat
we
send
it
via
email
as
well.
So
again,
this
first
portion
we're
going
to
have
each
of
the
groups,
do
a
presentation
of
15
minutes
where
we're
asking
you
all
to
protect
present
your
top
one
to
two
recommendations
and
then
be
available
for
any
questions
from
the
group
as
we
go,
that'll
take
us
about
an
hour.
A
Hopefully
you
know
we'll
do
our
best
to
keep
on
time
and
then,
during
that
last
55
minutes
to
an
hour.
That's
when
we're
really
going
to
start
looking
on
at
the
the
prospects
of
us
to
to
really
as
a
larger
group,
narrow
everything
down
to
you
know
three
to
four
projects
or
programs
that
we
can
then
turn
over
as
the
recommendations
to
be
vetted
and
then
to
be.
You
know
considered
going
forward
before
making
a
final
presentation
to
the
the
board
of
county
commissioners
in
early
may.
So
again,
any
questions
before
we
proceed.
G
A
Yeah
thanks
karen
so
I'll
be
folks.
Some
folks
are
going
to
be
presenting
and
sharing
their
screens
with
powerpoints.
I
have
a
few
powerpoints
that
folks
have
provided.
So
let
me
know
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
the
right
power
points
for
the
right
groups
and
then
also
what
I
would
just
add
is
I'll
do
my
best
to
do
full
screen,
but
my
my
computer
is
acting
up
my
my
graph.
My
video
card
is
not
displaying
in
full
screen,
but
I'll
do
the
best.
I
can
so,
I
think
up.
L
Apparently
I
will
do
that.
I
have
no
powerpoint
and
I
apologize
but
yeah.
This
is
as
good
as
it
gets
today.
You
get
me
also
in
the
group
was
molly
with
longmont,
claire
and
ann,
so
that
was
the
four
of
us
met
last
week.
I
did
send
some
notes
along
to
paul
and
karen
last
week,
but
we
did
have
three
recommendations
for
pipeline
projects
that
we
would
like
to.
L
L
L
L
L
L
K
No
nothing
to
add,
but
I,
but
I
did
ask
nori
for
just
some
update
on
that,
because
I
was
not
sure
whether
it
had
moved
beyond
the
conceptual
phase
and
we
just
finished
a
bulk
county
housing
authority
board
meeting,
and
I
think
maybe
nori
can
speak
to
actually
whether
we
would
be
able
to
expend
the
funds
within
the
time
frame
because
we're
at
the
very
beginning
of
pursuing
entitlement.
So
remember,
maybe
you
could
just
step
in
briefly
here.
M
M
So,
although
the
processes
are
going
relatively
concurrently,
they're
both
lengthy
and
I
think
that
the
rezoning
could
happen
with
the
town
of
superior
relatively
quickly.
However,
I
believe
that
the
rtd
process
includes
technical
review
coordination
with
their
engineering
team
public
review.
So
I
think
that
could
be
over
a
year
at
the
earliest,
before
we
would
have
approval
to
even
enter
into
a
purchase
agreement
with
rtd
so
between
the
rezoning,
as
well
as
the
site,
purchase
we're
not
looking
until
next
year
to
even
have
approval
from
our
td.
M
So
if
this,
which
would
be
thrilling
for
the
town
of
superior
to
be
able
to
deliver
some
affordable
housing.
But
it
is
a
lengthy
time
frame
and
then,
of
course,
we'd
be
applying
for
tax
credit
funding,
because
we
would
finally
have
site
control
until
then
we
just
wouldn't
have
site
control,
which
would
be
a
threshold
for
chaffa.
G
L
Yeah,
I
understood
and
thanks
norway
that
super
helpful
context
as
to
where
you
all
are.
It
might
make
some
sense,
then,
for
our
pipeline
working
group
to
take
another
look
at
the
list
and
see
what
might
be
might
be
another
opportunity
for
one
of
these
three
recommended
projects-
nori,
maybe
you
and
I
can
connect
as
well,
because
I
do
think
some
of
the
bcha
pipeline
would
be
better.
L
You
know
great
for
me
to
understand
sort
of
where,
where
things
are
so
that'd
be
good
next,
one
that
we
had
on
our
list
for
the
second
recommendation
was
longmont,
affordable
living.
So
this
was
a
project
that
molly
was
really
again,
I
think,
would
be
a
partnership
between
the
city
of
longmont
and
bcha.
L
H
H
We
do
have
the
national
development
council
on
contract
as
of
last
week,
and
we
have
talked
with
them
and
they
really
are
great
experts
in
deal
structuring
for
affordable,
assisted
living,
so
this
would
most
likely
the
funding
that
the
longmont
is
using
their
arbo
dollars
on
was
most
likely
go
towards
acquisition
or
or
the
first
steps
that
we
could
do
and
make
an
expenditure
in
a
timely
manner
and
then
work
with
them
going
forward
to
to
develop
a
partnership
and
a
property
to
do
this.
Commissioner
levy
also
followed
up
with
nori.
H
After
that,
it's
a
moving.
We
have,
you
know
ongoing
conversation
about
bcha
and
how
they
have
well.
Nori
can
speak
to
this,
but
it
sounds
like
there's
a
contracted
situation
where
you
can
put
funding
into
an
existing
assisting
living,
assisted
living
location
and
basically
buy
it
down,
so
that
it
could
be
affordable.
H
The
reason
that
that
this
came
flight
floats
to
the
surface
is
that
between
I
know,
lha
and
then
I
expect
bcha
have
certain
tenants,
especially
in
senior
living,
that
really
should
no
longer
be
in
independent
living,
but
there's
nowhere
for
them
to
go.
So
it's
really
difficult
to
manage
the
the
tendency
of
those
folks
and
there's
it's
just
it's
just
a
challenge:
they're
not
doing
as
well.
They
rely
on
their
neighbors,
which
is
wonderful,
but
that's.
H
G
L
D
L
Center
there
we
purchased
that
property
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
and
have
been
leasing
back
to
the
former
owners,
we're
all
the
way
through
entitlements
and
has
submitted
for
permits
on
the
site
and
plan
to
submit
for
four
percent
competitive
state
tax
credit
round
this
summer.
So
we
have
a
shovel
ready
project
here
in
terms
of
local
arpa
funds.
L
The
city
of
boulder
has
local
funds
coming
to
the
jurisdiction,
but
none
of
those
funds
are
targeted
specifically
to
gap
financing
for
affordable
housing
projects
of
this
nature
there's
some
things
that
are
tangential,
but
it
does
not
appear
to
have
a
source
dedicated
to
production
of
affordable
housing,
so
that
was
our.
It
feels,
I'm
sorry
very
self-interested.
So
I
we'll
take
no
offense.
K
K
K
It's
another
one,
that's
in
the
pipeline
and
could
we
could
either
target
special
populations
with
additional
money
to
make
it
affordable?
For
you
know,
any
kind
of
we
would
have
to
identify
the
special
population
or
we
wanted
to
see
what
came
out
of
the
home
ownership
group,
because
what's
planned
at
willoughby,
is
some
homeownership
opportunity.
G
We
can
really
dive
deeper
and
we
can
have
some
of
these
conversations,
and
it
doesn't
mean
what's
being
presented
today
by
the
first
group-
are
the
only
options
right
because
there's
going
to
be
some
time
for
subcommittees
or
teams
to
work
on
stuff
in
the
next
few
weeks
just
to
go
deeper.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
too.
L
J
J
We
were
really
trying
to
focus
on
how
to
very
quickly
expend
funds
in
a
way
that
was
effective
and
kind
of
built
on
pipeline
projects,
not
in
the
same
way
that
the
last
group
did,
but
in
looking
at
really
market
rate
projects
that
were
happening.
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
identify
shovel,
ready
or
under
construction
market
rate
developments
and
target
a
percentage
of
those
for
permanently
affordable
home
ownership
through
a
combination
of
inclusionary
housing
policies
and
the
provision
of
subsidy
to
bridge
the
gap
between
market
and
affordable
price
points.
J
So
what
that
essentially
means
is
who's
building
already
we
know
things
are
coming
up.
What
are
those
price
points?
How
can
we
take
leverage
both
what's
happening
already
with
inclusionary
policies
and
jump
on
those,
but
then
also
create
affordability
in
those
areas
where
there
are
not
inclusionary
policies?
J
I
made
them
up
the
first
one.
Here
is
so,
if
you
had
50
market
rate
town
homes
that
you
knew
were
already
going
to
be
completed
in
2024,
and
you
thought
the
price
point
of
those
was
400
000
for
a
three
bedroom
and
that
to
be
affordable,
that
home
would
need
to
be
sold
for
three
hundred
thousand.
What
you'd
get
with
a
one
million
dollar
grant
would
be
the
purchase
of
ten
of
these
homes
that
would
afford
ensure
permanent
affordability,
keeping
that
underlying
land
and
trust.
J
In
the
second
scenario,
we're
talking,
I
mentioned
longmont
because
you
do
have
inclusionary
policies
there.
If
we
said
that
if
they
had
already
said
twenty
percent
of
a
hundred
single
family
homes
needed
to
be
priced
affordably
and
in
exchange
for
that,
they
got
reduced,
tap
fees
and
other
considerations
that
you'd
be
looking
at
a
smaller
subsidy
to
get
perhaps
deeper
affordability
and
get
to
achieve
that
low
enough
price
point
to
ensure
permanent
affordability.
J
Okay,
the
other
the
last
one
is
more
buyer
driven.
So
in
other
words,
you
know
if
the
city
of
boulder
wanted
to
have
a
buyer
driven
program
that
they
could
go
out,
that
the
grants
could
go
directly
toward
the
purchase
of
that
home
with
a
restricted
resale
price
through
a
land,
lease
or
deed
restriction.
G
O
Okay
right
well,
so
the
the
proposal
for
mobile
home
park,
affordability
is,
is
largely
geared
towards
preserving
the
existing
affordability
levels
and
and
preventing
displacement
as
much
as
possible.
And
so
there
are
three
three
areas
of
funding
that
would
be
helpful.
One
is
to
have
a
reserve
fund
that
goes
towards
purchases
and
infrastructure
improvements
that
are
needed
as
part
of
a
purchase.
O
You
also
need
to
ensure
that
you
bring
the
property
up
to
certain
levels
in
terms
of
the
the
infrastructure.
So
so
you
need
both
acquisitions
and
capital
improvement.
Funding
is
part
of
this,
and
so
in
terms
of
the
support
programs,
we
could
go
anywhere
from
a
range
of
ways
of
supporting
these
from
fully
funded
purchases,
which
might
be
structured
as
loans
that
are
then
sold
off
again
to
to
other
other
purchasers
or
or
a
bridge
loan
type
scenario.
O
There's
a
range
of
ways
of
keeping
this
affordable
from
soft
to
hard
one
is
to
ask
residents
to
agree
to
deed,
restrict
their
homes
and
their
home
sales.
That's
a
very
unpopular
idea
with
residents
and
on
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum,
we
could
rely
on
natural
natural
home
sale
limits
because
the
homes
tend
to
be
hard
to
resell
at
quite
the
increasing
value
of
the
local
area,
because
they're
their
personal
property
and
because
of
being
personal
property
versus
real
property.
O
Okay
next
slide,
the
other
would
be
possibly
grants
to
resident
owned
communities
or
non-profit
owned
communities.
Just
for
infrastructure
repairs
with
similar
kinds
of
affordability
criteria
that
might
be
attached,
then.
Another
idea
that
that
we
thought
would
be
potentially
useful
is
is
to
help
out
landlords
who
are
who
are
committed
to
keeping
the
rents
low,
with
with
grants
or
low-interest
loans
to
support
infrastructure
improvement
projects,
with
the
condition
that
they
commit
to
long-range
affordability.
O
Various
people
who
have
gotten
behind
on
on
home
repairs
because
of
loss
of
jobs
due
to
covet
and
so
on.
So
it
would
be
useful
to
have
as
either
a
separate
stream
as
part
of
a
package
a
set
of
programs
designed
to
assist
individual
homeowners
such
as
rent
of
assistance,
repair
assistance,
mortgage
assistance,
energy
upgrades
and,
and
so
on.
As
as
part
of
the
general
funding
strategy
to
keep
the
mobile
home
mobile
homes.
Affordable.
G
K
Yeah,
this
is
for
michael
on
on
the
you
know,
having
funds
to
support
purchase
since
you've
been
through
this.
I
was
curious
about
the
cost
of
financing
through
rock
usa
and
those
resources
and
whether
that
really
helped
you
know,
was
it
possible
to
maintain
affordability.
Basically,
with
that
financing,
would
you
be
looking
for
arpa
funds
to
completely
replace
that
or
would
it
partner
with
those
rock
usa
funds.
O
A
combination,
actually
so
the
rock
usa
is,
is
their
normal
way
of
doing.
It
is
tends
not
to
be
helpful
in
the
current
environment,
especially
locally,
where
prices
are
so
high.
They
tend
to
provide
loan-only
financing
with
minimal
supplemental
funding
support,
and
so
the
rent
burden
for
residents
tends
to
be
fairly
high,
going
straight
with
rock
usa,
and
so
we
we
with
the
san
souci
purchase.
O
J
O
Yeah,
that
was
the
other
aspect
that
I
had
dropped.
It's
it's
getting
the
timing
right
just
because
oftentimes
getting
money
to
the
table
in
time
for
the
current
opportunity
to
purchase
limits
is
really
hard
going
through
the
rock
usa
model,
and
so
it's
often
really
important
to
have
a
way
to
meet
the
time
limits,
but
buy
extra
time
to
provide
to
get
funding
from
from
grant
organizations.
For
example,.
P
Hi,
I'm
anne
marie
from
the
regional
capacity
team
just
a
as
background.
This
first
slide,
some
of
the
sort
of
existing
things
that
drive
the
need
for
expanding
regional
capacity
are
the
moratorium
on
eviction
that
was
recently
lifted,
which
we
think
will
be
creating
more
evictions
in
the
next
few
months.
P
The
fact
that
the
county
staff
is
at
existing
capacity
and
needs
can't
really
handle
a
whole
lot
more
work
without
some
help
and
that
we
have
many
small
communities
in
boulder
county
that
have
zero
housing
staff,
who
don't
have
the
expertise
or
the
time.
Maybe
there's
a
planner.
Who
has
you
know
one
eighth
of
their
time
that
they're
supposed
to
look
at
housing
but
doesn't
really
have
they
don't
have
a
full-time
person
who
works
on
housing.
P
So
those
are
sort
of
the
the
three
sort
of
foundational
things
that
drove
what
we
are
looking
at
next
slide,
so
under
expanding
the
regional
housing
partnership.
So
those
of
you
who
don't
know
we
have
a
partnership,
but
it's
been
somewhat
defunct
and
I
understand
it's
picking
back
up
again,
which
was
an
association
of
all
the
cities
in
the
county,
working
together
to
set
some
goals,
but
then
really
didn't.
P
P
Even
if
you
discount
it
to
50
an
hour
which
is
cheap
for
legal
services,
they
won't
be
able
to
afford
it.
It
needs
to
be
free
and
it
needs
to
include
some
dollars
for
immediate
rental
assistance
to
get
people
current,
so
they
don't
get
evicted
and
it
can
include
a
revolving
loan
fund
where
they
pay
it
back
over
time
if
possible,
but
it
needs
immediate
cash
to
keep
people
in
their
homes
and
the
same
with
foreclosure
prevention.
P
If
people
are
close
to
being
foreclosed
on,
they
need
money
now
they
may
have
lost
their
job,
and
now
they
have
a
job
back,
but
they
couldn't
catch
up.
You
know
on
their
home
payments,
even
if
they
got
a
new
job,
and
so
we
believe
they
need
the
same
thing.
They
need
immediate
assistance
to
get
them
to
stabilize,
and
then
we
can
work
on
how
to
pay
that
back.
P
We
also
believe
that
the
regional
housing
partnership
needs
better
connections
in
the
community
and
not
just
staff
right
now.
It's
just
staff
from
the
cities
and
the
county,
and
that
at
a
community
advisory
board
is
an
important
element
to
make
sure
that
whatever
the
partnership
is
doing
is
really
connected
with
what's
going
on
in
the
community
today
and-
and
we
know
that
bureaucracies
can
be
slow
to
change,
and
we
hope
that
the
advisory
board
will
help
keep
them
current
with
what
are
the
trends
today?
P
Other
things
we
think
the
regional
housing
a
partnership
could
do
if
it
were
expanded,
was
to
assist
smaller
communities
in
compliance
with
hud
and
dola
requirements,
so
they
don't
lose
any
of
their
existing
housing
by
not
being
in
compliance
that
keeping
for
sale
homes
in
the
market.
We
have
had
some
sold
out
from
undress,
where
maybe
it
was
a
habitat
home
where
nobody
worked
with
them
to
make
sure
it
got
sold
up
to
another
affordable
renter,
because
it.
P
There
were
people
in
the
undocumented
community
who
were
afraid
of
contacting
the
housing
helpline
because
they
didn't
know
that
there
were
services
that
could
help
them.
Even
though
there
was
someone
undocumented
in
their
household.
So
we
need
better
outreach
and
that
outreach
would.
It
also
include
non-web-based
communication
capacity
for
the
housing
helpline.
P
We
do
have
people
in
our
community
who
either
because
they're
seniors
or
just
very
low
income,
they
don't
have
a
computer,
they
don't
have
a
phone
and
they
still
do
things
on
paper
and
we
need
to
help
translate
that
and
then
create
community
member
connectors.
Similarly,
maybe
have
a
point
person
in
the
mobile
home
parks.
You
know
who
works
with
those
folks
and
make
sure,
or
maybe
in
certain
apartment
complexes
where
we
know.
P
G
Right,
it's
kind
of
one
recommendation
with
a
bunch
of
sub
points
which
I
think
is
is
great.
So
we
actually
do
have
time
for
questions.
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
raise
your
hand
on
zoom,
though
just
in
case
people
more
than
one
wants
to
ask
a
question:
just
raise
your
hand
on
zoom
and
then
I'll
call
you
out.
F
O
It
will
really
be
part
dependent,
so
one
example
is:
is
one
park
needs
a
very
large
upgrade
of
its
wastewater
treatment
plant.
Quite
a
few
parks
will
have
some
serious
supply
line
and
sewage
line
replacements.
Many
of
those
have
very
old
plumbing
infrastructure
systems,
and
then
some
are
in
in
flood
hazard
zones
and
so
they'll
they'll
need
help
in
in
doing
floodplain
mitigation
plans.
O
G
R
Trying
to
get
a
handle
on
the
family
homelessness
issue
in
our
community
or
a
very,
relatively
large
county
without
a
family,
homeless
shelter.
I
think,
there's
general
consensus
that
building
a
shelter
operating
a
shelter
is
not
the
direction
to
go
so
this
concept
around.
How
do
we
use
hoteling
as
a
way
to
deal
with
the
fact
that
we've
got
parents
and
kiddos
living
in
their
cars
or
in
other
untenable
situations?
R
So
the
the
that's
kind
of
the
background
there's
a
lot
more
detail
here,
just
because
this
group
had
been
working
on
for
a
while,
and
so
we
threw.
We
threw
everything
on
the
powerpoint
but
again
just
kind
of
what
the
need
is.
Anita's
been
pretty
consistent
over
the
last
number
of
years
and
then
escalated
over
coved
not
to
be.
L
R
No
surprise
to
anyone
for
accounting,
our
sites,
we
have
a
limited
number
of
family
sheltering
resources
and
those
include
two
domestic
violence,
shelters
and
then
some
short-term
temporary
support
from
some
of
the
family
resource
centers.
So
it's
not
very
sustainable.
I'm
gonna
skip
a
lot
of
this
because
it's
again
just
some
background.
R
R
R
R
Bringing
additional
nonprofit
housing
partners
and
really
look
at
how
do
we
stabilize
people
who
are
families
experiencing
homelessness
right
now
and
then
coordinate
resources
so
that
they
can
move
into
permanent,
affordable
housing
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
the
bottom
line
I
mean
we
began
crunching
these
numbers
this
group
did
a
while
ago.
We
we
currently
are
spending
or
the
need
is
at
about
245
000
annually
to
to
meet
what
the
current
need
is.
R
We
have
about
half
of
that
that
organizations
can
access
through
other
funding
funding
sources,
but
that
leaves
us
at
a
just
a
hoteling
gap
of
about
a
hundred
and
close
172
000
annually.
The
housing
navigation
piece
is
probably
another
60
to
70
000
annually.
So
we're
looking
at
that
over
a
three
year
period,
we're
about
close
to
725
000
to
ramp.
P
N
N
R
G
H
H
So
this
proposal
is
to
purchase
again
either
on
on
your
own
as
as
boulder
county
or
the
bcha.
However,
that
best
makes
sense
or
partnering
with
another
housing
authority
to
purchase
a
multiplex
or
small
apartment
building
and
then
convert
it
to
how
permanent
housing
with
supportive
services
for
hard
to
house
individuals,
meaning
those
individuals
that
are
currently
excluded
from
housing
authorities
and
federal
voucher
programs
due
to
criminal
records.
H
This
is
most
often
right
now
that
we're
seeing
at
least
in
longmont
related
to
meth
convictions,
because
that's
such
a
high
risk
risk
for
bringing
them
into
subsidized
or
or
private
market
housing,
but
it
could
also
be
other
convictions
on
records.
This
might
even
include
registered
sex
offenders,
there's
not
as
many
of
those,
but
that
is
in
this
category
of
persons
that
have
a
need
and
are
left
out
of
the
system.
Currently.
H
K
H
Correct
we
do
have
that
a
similar
setup
with
mental
health
partners
and
boulder
shelter
for
permanent
supportive
housing
here
in
longmont.
However,
that
is
our
example
is
run
by.
We
have
federal
restrictions
on
on
tenants,
so
hopefully
we
can
find
a
way
to
do
that
same
model
without
that
restriction.
L
Hi,
this
is
laura.
Yes,
that's
correct.
We
have
done
this
with
with
success
with
bhp.
I
think
a
little
bit
of
the
issue
is
just
market
availability
and
being
able
to
actually
get
under
contract
for
a
property.
The
market
is
at
least
in
the
city
of
boulder
and
I'm
sure,
across
the
county,
although
I'm
not
as
familiar.
L
G
Well,
we've
all
been
presented
with
a
lot
of
information.
I
know
it
might
seem
overwhelming
and
we
again
want
to
thank
everyone
who
has
been
working
on
these.
It's
clear
that
everybody's
done
a
lot
of
research
and
really
you
know
your
passion
and
your
interest
and
your
talent
is,
is
so
so
appreciated.
A
A
So
unless
anybody
has
any
thoughts
about
another
way
to
approach
this,
that's
kind
of
the
way
that
that
we
thought-
and
maybe
we
start
to
get
some
themes.
You
know
I
certainly
noticed
some
some
themes
and
some
threads
that
could
be
pulled
across
multiple
ideas
that
we
heard
today.
It
looks
like
emery
and
anna.
You
have
your
hands
up
and
marie
and.
P
A
I
think
we're
after
is
just
getting
from
each
person
really
what
are
their
top
couple
of
things
and
then
seeing
what
kind
of
themes
we
can
get
to
just
to
try
to
to
get
things
at
a
little
bit
more
of
a
manageable
level.
Again,
not
saying
like
this
is
a
vote
and
we're
just
going
to
tally
it
up.
It's
more
that,
let's
just
see
where
folks
are
at
and
find
find
the
the
common
themes
that
we're
seeing
anna.
F
G
F
So
what,
after
everyone
shares
for
two
minutes,
what
are
what
are
the
next
steps,
because
in
the
groups
in
the
working
groups,
you
know
we
had
the
feeling
that
you
know
it
wasn't
really
a
lot
of
time
to
to
work
on
a
lot
of
details?
It's
only
been
a
couple
of
weeks.
So
can
you
clarify
what
what
are
we
expecting
like
moving
forward?
You
said
paul
that
we
weren't
tallying
or
anything.
A
P
I
I
guess
I
would
say
just
in
response
claire,
that
I
think
the
eviction,
prevention
and
foreclosure
prevention
will
need
to
exist
past
the
pandemic,
but
there
is
an
increased
need
for
them
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
that
seems
like
it
makes
sense
for
arpa,
but
I
think
you're
right
long
term.
Those
are
going
to
be
ongoing
needs,
but
there
is
an
enhancement
because
of
the
pandemic.
I
Q
Okay,
paul
and
others
I'll
so
I'll
give
my
input.
There
was
sort
of
three
categories
of
things
that
I
I
thought
went
together.
The
first
group
for
the
pipe
the
pipeline
I
mean
that
makes
sense
for
the
for
arpa
funds.
I
was
a
little
concerned
about
some
things
that
may
not
be
shovel
ready
for
so
just
ensuring
that
they
are.
Q
A
M
I
know
I'm
not
a
voting
member,
but
thank
you
for
allowing
me.
I
do
think
there's
a
a
lot
of
synergy
with
the
home
ownership
at
that
regional
level,
because
it's
so
difficult
and
both
longmont
and
city
of
boulder
have
worked
it
for
a
number
of
years
and
there's
plenty
of
lessons
learned
there
and
selfishly
bcha
is
going
to
be
financing,
affordable
home
ownership
at
willoughby
corner
in
lafayette
within
a
year
and
are
looking
at
a
number
of
strategies.
M
So
I
felt
like
the
homeownership
does
work
at
that
regional
level,
because
I
need
the
expertise
at
the
county
level
and
we
have
learned
from
a
section,
8,
voucher,
home
ownership
program,
what
didn't
work
and
we
have
tried
and
tested
that
and
happy
to
share
that
with
the
group.
So
I
feel,
like
the
homeownership
needs
that
regional
level.
I
also
feel
like
that.
M
There's
a
lot
of
discussion
around
the
second
mortgage
or
loan
products
that
could
assist
mobile
homeowners,
affordable,
homeowner,
home
buyers
on
the
not
supply
side,
but
on
the
demand
side
and
the
hhs
team
under
paul
and
susan
have
a
lot
of
specialty
with
the
home
buyer
assistance
that
that
serves
folks,
county-wide
and
so
expanding
that
on
that
expertise
of
what
a
second
mortgage
program
might
look
like,
could
really
work
on
the
supply
side.
That's
not
my
area
of
expertise
and,
lastly,
just
really
quickly
on
the
pipeline
project.
M
I
think
that
shovel
ready
could
also
mean
you're.
You
may
be
buying
housing
product,
but
you
also
might
be
buying
improved
land
or
entitled
land
and
that
could
also
get
the
funding
out
where
it
needs
to
be,
and
that
could
reduce
the
cost
of
developing
either
affordable
home
ownership
or
affordable
rental
if
you're
able
to
basically
acquire
land
and
buy
down
the
cost
of
the
overall
construction.
H
A
P
A
O
O
One
of
the
one
of
the
helpful
things
about
supporting
the
mobile
home
ownership,
the
parks
funding
and
so
on.
Is
you
create
a
pocket
of
of
home
ownership
that
is
very
at
the
very
low
level
and
with
residential
communities
or
land
trust
models?
You
get
a
lot
of
stability
in
the
home
value.
That
really
is
not
there
under
the
for-profit
model,
and
so
you
allow
this
that
first
step
towards
a
real
property
home
ownership.
O
By
providing
this
smaller
asset
building
capacity
and
in
in
the
land
trust
and
in
the
resident
owned
community
models,
you
would
completely
reduce
the
risk
that
that
there
will
be
asset
loss
or
there
will
be
reduction
and
appreciation
because
of
the
the
fraught
relationship
between
the
landlord
and
the
tenant,
and
so
looking
at
the
spectrum
of
needs
and
spectrum
of
inc
incomes,
it
seems
like
focusing
on
mobile
home
ownership
and
stabilizing.
That
is
a
really
important
component
towards
getting
people
into
into
the
home
ownership
stream.
A
F
I
think
that
the
the
rental
and
foreclosure
assistance
would
be
very
important
and,
and
the
sheltering
for
for
and
house
families
with
children
that
currently
there
is
no
systemic
solution.
It's
like
more
of
a
patchwork
and
and
this
project
that
we
presented
would
be
a
more
systemic
but
temporary,
hopefully
because,
as
assan
said,
the
idea
of
more
units
becoming
available
and
and
more
navigation
and
and
case
management
would
hopefully
connect
to
these
families
with
more
stable
housing.
F
So
I
I
see
kind
of
like
two
big
buckets
one
for
the
longer
term
building.
You
know
that
that
asset
through
home
ownership,
but
also
taking
care
of
those
most
vulnerable
that
would
not
have
access
to
home
ownership
and
and
the
effects
the
very
real
effects
that
the
pandemic
has
had
on
this
population.
N
I
was
just
going
to
chime
in
to
sort
of
echo
that,
but
with
the
on
the
hoteling
idea,
so
with
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program,
the
22
million
of
that
bucket
that
we
have
at
boulder
county.
We
have
not
been
hoteling
because
of
the
challenges
with
a
successful
exit,
and
so
I
love
that
this
idea
addresses
the
successful
exit.
It
really
solves
a
problem,
and
you
know
if
we
had
more
services
there.
A
G
I
did
have
time
to
just
put
a
really.
These
are
just
summary:
it's
a
summary
list,
so
it
doesn't
go
into
any
of
the
detail,
but
just
so
you
can
sort
of
wrap
your
brains
around
what
were
the
the
ideas
that
were
presented
so
the
first
one
was
the
pipeline
one.
It
was
about
shovel
ready
projects
and
how
they
can
be
expanded
upon.
They
gave
three
examples:
the
superior,
the
longmont
assisted
living
and
the
rally
sports
affordable
site.
G
Then,
with
the
honor
mobile
home
park
group,
they
gave
two
two
ideas.
One
was
for
that
stefca
led
was
at
shovel
ready
market
development
for
project
for
projects
where
we
would
target
a
percentage
for
permanent,
affordable
home
ownership
and
then
michael
talked
about
mobile
home
parks
and
the
need
for
potentially
acquisition
funding,
as
well
as
infrastructure
improvement,
funding.
G
Regionally.
The
basic
crux
of
it
all
was
to
expand
the
regional
housing
partnership
and
then
the
homelessness
group
had
the
hoteling
for
unhoused
families
with
children
as
well
as
purchase
multiplex
buildings
and
convert
them
to
permanent
housing
for
the
folks
who
have
the
hardest
time
getting
into
housing
programs,
for
whatever
reason
it
is
and
that
it
would
be
a
partnership
with
mental
health
services
as
well
to
make
sure
that
they
have
access
to
those.
G
K
Oh
yeah
thanks
no,
I
was
just
gonna
just
offer
my
I
guess
my
thoughts.
I
I
was
reluctant
to
do
that
because
I'm
gonna
get
a
vote
and
I
don't
so.
I
get
two
bites
of
the
apple,
but
just
from
you
know
from
you
know,
what's
been
presented,
I
think
we
just
have
an
amazing
number
of
opportunities
and
it's
I
wish
we
had
more
money,
so
we
could
do
it
all.
K
There
are
a
couple
of
these
strike
me
as
ones
where
particularly
the
mobile
home
park,
purchase
funding
where
there
may
not
be
an
opportunity
to
use
those
funds.
You
know
if
if
a
mobile
home
park
in
boulder
county
doesn't
come
up
for
sale
and
the
residents
can't
get
themselves
organized
to
purchase,
so
you
know
we
could,
we
could
say,
and
same
goes
for
trying
purchasing
a
small
apartment
building
to
for
people
who
are
unhoused.
K
To
I
don't
mean
to
take
the
pipeline
projects
off
the
table,
because
I
I
think
you
know
we-
we
have
a
our
housing
problem,
comes
from
lack
of
inventory
on
the
one
hand
and
lack
of
income
at
the
same
time,
so
with
financially
vulnerable
people
and
chasing
too
little
inventory,
and
I
do
think
we
would
miss
a
big
opportunity
if
we
didn't
invest
these
funds
in
additional
inventory.
And
so
I
hope
that
we
do
put
some
into
those
pipeline
projects.
K
I
don't
know
if
we
do
them
all
or
one
or
two
put
some
money
into
home
ownership.
I
think
the
the
idea,
I
can't
say
the
word
hoteling
I
just
like
how
did
it?
How
did
a
hotel
become
a
verb
but
into
housing,
families
in
hotels
and
maybe
maybe
we
can
use
our
are
unspent-
some
of
our
unspent
emergency
rental
assistance
funds
for
that,
but
use
the
arc
of
money
for
the
the
exit
to
support
the
exiting.
K
K
R
Muting
is
that
a
verb
yeah?
I
I
think
I
I
don't
know
that
I
have
a
whole
lot
more
to
offer.
I
really
agree
that
that
you
know
sort
of
the
kind
of
biggest
thing
for
the
bucks
so
to
say
around
the
pipeline
projects
I
think,
is
really
key,
and
this
can
be
an
opportunity
to
move
things
more
quickly
and
then
and
to
free
up
other
funds
that
otherwise
would
be
attached
to
some
of
those
projects.
R
Homeownership,
I
think,
is
key
to
building
wealth,
and
there
are
so
many
so
many
folks
that
we're
that
are
in
our
community
that
aren't
there
yet.
So
I
would
you
know
I
would
really
support
kind
of
a
balanced
look
at.
How
do
we
do?
How
do
we
do
both
so
that
over
time,
where
you
know
we're
moving
people
up
that
that
kind
of
that
pathway?
R
I
I
couldn't
agree
more
around
the
regional
approach.
I
think,
for
a
number
of
reasons
that
that
folks
have
already
described-
and
I
also
you
know
when
you
think
about
these
funds-
is
there's
the
work
that
maybe
we
should
already
be
doing-
I'm
not
opposed
to
having
arpa
funds
kind
of
launch
that
move
it
more
quickly,
but
I
also
you
know.
I
also
would
want
to
pause
that
we
don't
that
that
doesn't
kind
of
leave
us
of
those
financial
obligations
post
arpa.
R
So
you
think
that
a
lot
of
it's
just
kind
of
how
do
we
stack
these
funds,
use
them
most
effectively
and
then
the
final
thing,
I
would
say,
really
again.
I
think
the
the
family
hotel
and
we'll
find
a
better
way
to
say
that
hoteling,
but
I
I
I
do
think
that
there
are
it's
kind
of
the
low-hanging
fruit
and
some
of
this
to
really
provide
immediate
resources
and
support
to
people
who
are
are
struggling
incredibly
right.
R
L
R
A
N
N
For
example,
the
hoteling
and
some
cash
transfers
being
considered
in
the
economic
challenges
group
would
be
administered
by
non-profits
because
they're
trusted
by
the
community,
so
a
variety
of
non-profits
and
so
just
to
keep
in
our
minds
that
if
we
are
going
to
be
relying
on
a
variety
of
nonprofits
for
distributing
assistance
to
people,
we
need
to
think
about
their
capacity
and
we
will
need
to
fund
capacity
to
do
that.
So
just
want
it
on
our
radar
and
we
can
bucket
those
together.
C
Yeah
another
common
theme
that
came
up
from
the
economic
group
was
that
discussion
about
creating
a
stronger
community
collaboration
and
the
decision
making
around
the
distribution
of
funds.
So
I
heard
that
come
up
earlier
talking
about
building
out
the
housing
partnership
with
stronger
community
ties
and
improving
the
outreach.
I
think
what
claire
said
about
making
sure
that's
the
backbone
across
everything.
That's
happening
in
the
county
is
true
and
that's
part
of
the
discussion
in
the
other
groups
as
well.
E
Sure
yeah,
thank
you,
leslie,
thanks
for
bringing
up
the
the
notion
that
regardless
well,
regardless
of
where
we
land
that
we
do
need
to
carve
out
funding
for
program
administration,
whether
that's
through
a
non-profit,
you
know
hiring
additional
capacity
at
the
county.
Somebody
to
help
manage
it
is
is
important
I
was
but
it
in
regards
to
my
my
top
two.
E
E
Even
you
know
we're.
A
lot
of
us
are
aware
that
there's
a
senate
bill
out
there
12.
senator
bill
22
1287,
that
that
wants
to
put
that
idea
out
there,
but
I,
I
think,
being
able
to
bring
in
the
for-profit
manufactured
home
parks
in
a
in
a
way
that
kind
of
incentivizes
them
to
make
these
investments
within
their
properties
that
are
are
going
to
benefit.
The
residents
has
a
lot
of
value.
O
O
One
is
to
one
is,
is
I
want
to
say
stable
stability,
preventing
preventing
loss
of
housing,
and
that
could
be
a
combination
of
eviction,
defense
homeless
response,
as
well
as
as
helping
to
purchase
mobile
home
parks
to
prevent
the
rents
from
going
up
and
driving
driving
people
out.
That
would
that
would
be
in
that
bucket.
K
K
O
Not
that
particular
thing,
but
I've
got
maybe
a
related
one
is
is
involved.
So
a
lot
of
folks
are
are
renters,
who
want
to
move
into
into
home
ownership
and
and
buying
a
mobile
home
is
the
first
step
there
because
they
can't
afford
real
property
home
ownership.
So
that's
that's
their
entry,
and
so
so
that
was
that
was
part
of
the
point
I
was
trying
to
okay
yeah,
because
that's.
E
A
lot
of
you
know
these.
Well,
the
mobile
homes
are
in
rather
poor
condition,
and
can
we
provide
a
mechanism
where
they
can
replace
that
with
a
a
better
or
or
a
newer
manufactured
home,
and
it
it?
It
could
be
something
that
comes
on
on
wheels.
It
could
be
a
modular
unit
that
is
actually
attached
to
the
ground.
L
Yep,
thank
you
so
lots
of
great
comments.
I
have
been
contemplating
my
my
response
here
and
I
actually
don't
even
know
if
I
have
a
vote.
So
this
is
just
my
thinking,
but
it
takes
quite
a
bit
to
stand
up
projects,
and
so
the
thing
that
I'm
seeing
kind
of
over
and
over
with
some
of
these
different
proposals
is
you
know
capacity.
L
I'm
homeless.
We
heard
a
lot
of
great
things
about
that.
I
think
the
more
the
better
so
family,
in
particular,
I
think,
is
very
compelling
and
then
mobile
home
park
infrastructure,
and
that
again,
is
just
it's
a
tough
nut
to
crack
and
if
we
can
set
aside
money
for
that,
I
think
that
that's
really
important
I
put
pipeline
as
last.
I
I
think
somebody
had
a
comment
about
it
being
sort
of
a
toggle.
L
L
But
again,
there
are
other
resources
for
that,
in
particular
in
the
city
of
boulder,
there's
ih
money
and
then,
like
I
mentioned
tax
credit
dollars,
so
I
think
pipeline
great,
but
I
also
think
it
could
be
sort
of
again
a
toggle
project.
If
things
need
to
get
deployed
and
expended
them,
then
this
could
be
sort
of
a
last
resort.
So
those
are
those
are
my
thoughts
thanks.
G
A
I
A
G
And
we
also,
we
have
heard
from
some
folks
about
what
they
anticipate
cost
would
be.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
capacity,
and
so
you
know
just
one
just
it's
that's
hanging
out
there.
You
know
that
that
the
more
we
know
the
better
as
we
before
we
turn
this
over
to
the
county
staff
who
would
need
to
even
vet
it
further.
A
And
I
know
karen,
you
had,
you
know,
broken
down
the
list
and
issa
had
notes.
I
think
you're.
Looking
at
the
last
thinking
about
the
last
10
minutes
of
conversation,
I
think
we've
narrowed
things
down,
maybe
a
little
bit
so
I'd
like
to
just
kind
of
throw
out
again
not
saying
this
is
definitive,
but
maybe
if
this
is
where
we
can
take
the
conversation
from
here.
So
what
I've
heard
coming
up,
you
know
really
in
in
a
lot
of
discussion
over
the
past
10
to
15
minutes
are
the
following
in
no
particular
order.
A
There's
family
homelessness,
prevention,
so
the
homeless,
the
hoteling
solution,
if
we'll
call
it
that
so
yeah,
not
family,
homelessness,
prevention,
sorry
prevention's,
not
the
right
word
there
next
is
mobile,
home
ownership
and
then,
or
and
or
investment
in
infrastructure,
and
then
the
last
or
the
the
fourth
would
be
the
pipeline.
And
again
I
think
homeownership
is
tied
to
three
or
four
of
these
pretty
strongly.
A
F
I
don't
know
it
doesn't
sit
so
well
with
me.
I
I
would.
I
would
prefer
to
reconvene
the
group
and
give
everyone
the
opportunity
to
to
voice
their
preference
and
have
it
as
open
as
possible.
But
I
don't
again,
I
don't
know
what
the
timeline
is.
If
there's
enough
time
to
like
scope,
things
further
have
have
a
more
clear
list,
consolidating
things
that
can
be
consolidating
consolidated.
Even
you
know,
cross-checking
with
other
groups.
F
A
A
Things
like
eviction
prevention
could
be
included
in
terms
of
trying
to
expand
the
capacity
of
existing
programs
that
are
providing.
You
know.
Housing
stabilization
supports
that
then
lead
to
hopefully
eviction
prevention,
so
just
want
to
be
mindful
of
of
that
is
still
part
of
the
the
larger
landscape
and
joanna
go
ahead.
I
know
you
had
your
hand
up.
C
Sure
I
was
just
going
to
chime
in
on
the
overall
timeline
to
give
a
sense,
also
where
the
other
groups
are
at
as
well.
So
this
thursday
morning,
coming
thursday,
we
are
going
to
have
a
meeting
with
all
the
co-chairs
of
the
groups
and
we've
been
using
that
time
every
week
to
just
discuss
overlap
and
some
of
those
common
themes.
C
So
the
county
staff
will
be
using
that
time
to
vet
through
the
ideas
and
those
who
would
like
to
help
contribute.
You
know,
as
like
a
sounding
board
through
that
vetting
process
are
more
than
welcome
help
and
again,
there's
no
there's
no
restriction
on
calling
this
group
back
together.
If
you
would
like
to
do
that
or
if
you
would
like
to
continue
to
meet
in
any
of
those
subgroups.
K
K
The
question
of
you
know
some
of
these
programs
there's
been
a
lot
of
assumption
that
maybe
boulder
county
housing
authority
would
do
them
or
do
them
in
partnership
with
online
housing
authority
or
board
housing
authority.
But
I
think
we
do
need
to
explore
whether
another
nonprofit
you
know
stefca's
land,
trust
or
you
know
another
entity
should
be
involved,
and
we
really
haven't
talked
about
that
and
I
don't
think
we
are
ready
to
to
go
forward
with
investment
decisions
or
proposals.
K
K
You
know
the
the
expiration
of
the
arpa
funds,
how
we're
going
to
handle
that
you
know
there
are
some
things
like
you
know:
housing,
homeless,
families
that
you
know
when
the
money
runs
out.
We
stop
the
program.
That
would
be
tragic,
but
that
can
happen,
but
with
some
of
these
others,
where
we,
you
know,
if
we
make
a
decision
to
invest
in
that
area,
part
and
parcel.
That
is
going
to
be
some
ability
to
sustain
the
program.
So
I
think
we
need
another
meeting.
R
Thanks
and
jenna,
that's
that's
great
to
know,
because
I
I
feel
like
that's
one
of
the
the
things
that's
been
difficult.
It's
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
great
ideas
that
I
don't
want
to
lose
track
of.
I'm
I'm
happy
to
to
meet
again.
I
do
feel
like
there
is
there.
You
know,
there's
more
of
a
in
the
weeds
conversation
that's
needed,
but
I'm
also
wondering
like
it's
been.
It
was
great
to
have
nora
here.
R
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
people
or
or
some
subject
matter
experts
that
would
be
important
to
have
as
part
of
that
meeting
or
to
meet
with
them
prior
and
there's
just
so
much
content
here
that
I'm
not
familiar
with,
and
so
I
you
know
hesitate
to
offer
too
many
opinions
about
something.
That's
not
my!
R
A
G
G
F
G
R
C
F
Anna,
just
maybe
a
suggestion
would
be,
can
we
start
use
like
use
the
information
on
the
powerpoints
to
create
one
document?
Then
people
can
like
add
to
that
document
like
so
that
we
can
all
contribute
in
between.
Instead
of
you
know
having
to
necessarily
meet
like
ask
questions
or
suggest
people
that
could
provide
more
information.
K
You
know
another
thing
we
need,
I
I
think
we
should
create
a
document
that
puts
all
these
proposals
together
and
I
think
we
should
we
should.
You
know
I
think
anne-marie's
suggestion
is
a
good
one,
but
I
think
what
we
need
along
with
that
is
some
dollars
associated
with
them.
The
a
couple
of
them
actually
did
have
some
dollar
proposals,
but
some
of
them
didn't
and
I
think
we
need
to
understand
cost
so
that
we
can
look
at
you
know.
Maybe
we
can
fund.
K
G
So
really
it
sounds
like
the
documents
just
opened
and
it's
getting
populated
by
the
representatives
from
the
specific
groups.
Not
so
much
one
person
is
pulling
stuff
from
the
the
powerpoints,
because
some
of
the
one
organizat
one
group
didn't
have
a
powerpoint
and
then
one
powerpoint
was
super
detailed
other
not
so
much
so
it
just
feels
to
me
like
it
would
it's
less
pressure
on
one
or
two
people
to
try
to
figure
out
what
each
each
group
thought
was
important
that
they
would
want
to
include
in
this
final
document?
Am
I
reading
the
room
correctly?
H
Thank
you.
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
raise
my
hand,
I
agree,
but
I
don't
know
if
as
much
detail
as
possible
is
great,
I
feel
like
we
can
refer
back
to
the
the
presentation
materials,
because
even
if
we
didn't
have
powerpoints
a
lot
of
us
have
notes
that
are
we
put
together
with
our
groups
that
we
could
fill
in
if
needed,
but
I
feel
like
to
make
to
see
it
really
all
in
one
comprehensive
place.
L
So
I
don't
know
where
my
button
is
either
I'm
going
to
jump
in,
but
I
think
that
molly
sort
of
was
thinking
very
much
along
the
same
lines.
I
was
so
whether
it's
an
excel
spreadsheet
or
some
sort
of
word
document
to
populate,
not
a
ton
of
detail,
but
to
sort
of
normalize
the
information,
because
I
do
think
that
scan
for
equity
is
important
and
you
know
if
we're
trying
to
hit
a
variety
of
amis,
just
understanding.
L
G
C
I
just
want
to
bring
everyone
also
back
to
those
guiding
questions.
Slash
criteria,
the
criteria
more
of
like
a
internal
checklist
that
were
originally
identified
by
the
steering
committee
and
those
are
just
to
be
mindful
of,
but
the
questions
below
it
are
ones
that
are
going
to
be
need
to
be
answered
for
each
project
that
you
propose.
So
just
so,
you
know
that
is
what
is
being
worked
towards
and
when
you're
thinking
about
the
questions
that
you
want
to
have
on,
the
spreadsheet
may
as
well
start
working
towards
those
ones.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
great
advice
show
hannah.
You
know
we,
I
think
karen
and
I
maybe
can
start
by
taking
a
shot
at
building
out
a
spreadsheet
building,
just
the
initial
narrative
on
some
of
this
stuff
and
then
just
rely
on
the
groups
to
to
help
us
build
out
the
details
and
and
refine
our
language
where
needed.
If
we're
missing
something
or
you
know,
I
mean
we,
it's
going
to
take
some
collaboration,
so
I
think
everybody
to
to
help
in
any
area
whether
or
not
you
were
on
the
subgroup.
Michael.
G
G
C
Sure
so,
for
the
final
for
the
final
recommendations
that
you
were
choosing,
including,
like
you
know,
one
moonshot
idea
it's
to
fill
out
those
questions
regarding
each
topic
or
each
idea.
At
the
same
time,
we'll
provide
in
the
next
couple
days
we'll
provide
like
a
document
that
you
can
fill
out.
If
you
want
to
capture
some
of
those
ideas
or
threads
that
have
trailed
off
in
this
process,
but
are
you
would
like
to
capture
as
well
and
then?
C
What
we'll
also
ask
is
again,
this
part
will
be
more
optional
if
there
are
like
specific
details
or
if
you
want
to
have
collected
any
of
the
additional
reports
that
you
already
have
been
talking
about
any
of
those
resources
and
just
you
know,
make
any
note
or
flag
those
for
county
staff.
The
way
I
was
thinking
about
it
kind
of
when
we
were
discussing
this
is
almost
it's
like
you're,
leaving
a
what
I
leave.
You
know.
C
These
are
the
important
considerations
that
we've
talked
about
and
we
believe
are
crucial
to
continuing
this
process
as
the
county
staff
look
at
it.
That
being
said,
I
understand
that
many
of
you
will
want
to
continue
to
stay
engaged,
and
so
it
doesn't
need
to
be
a
detailed
report
and
you
can
continue
to
raise
those
flags
as
they
come
up
throughout
the
rest
of
the
process.
A
Thanks,
I
mean
it
sounds
like
we,
you
know.
Obviously,
if
we
could
meet
next
week,
that's
great,
but
we
may
not
have
to.
We
may
be
able
to
get
to
the
point
if
we
commit
to
collaborating
on
this
document,
to
the
point
where
we
have
the
questions
answered,
we
basically
have
around
four
to
five
ideas
right
now.
A
Maybe
we
we
see
where
we
can
get
a
week
from
now
after
some
effort
of
working
on
the
file
together,
so
I'll
just
throw
that
out
there.
I
think
we
can
certainly
work
on
trying
to
find
a
meeting
time
in
the
in
the
interim,
but
I
don't
know
that
it's
required
and
we
could
always
meet
after
the
eighth.
At
that
point,.
A
And
I
know
we're
a
couple
minutes
over
at
this
point.
I
think
you
know
we'll
karen
and
I
will
will
start
kind
of
compiling
things
and
I
think
we
just
look
at
communicating
as
best
we
can
as
a
group
as
far
as
kind
of
our
meeting
availability
and
our
availability
to
provide
information
on.
You
know
the
centralized
file
or
files
that
we're
going
to
put
together
karen.
How
does
that
sound.
F
A
Yeah
then,
I
think
our
only
option,
you
know
I
mean
we
can
try
doodle
polls,
but
we
can
just
put
something
on
the
calendar
and
you
know
we're
just
going
to.
Oh,
I
don't
know,
do
we
just
whoever
can
make
it
can
make
it
or
you
know,
what's
what's
our
goal
here?
Do
we
have
to
find
something
where
we
can
all
make
it
because
that's
going
to
be
challenging
but
joanna,
maybe
if
you're
available
to
help
us
look
at
another
doodle
poll.
That
would
be
great.