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From YouTube: Feb. 28, 2022 - Housing Working Group breakout session
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American Recovery Plan Act (ARPA) kick-off meeting on Feb. 28, 2022 - Housing Working Group breakout session.
A
See
so
many
people,
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
people
here.
I
don't
know
either
and
paul
and
I
are
we
did
send
out
an
email
on
sunday
which
hopefully
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
just
sort
of
introducing
ourselves,
and
we
thought
it
would
be
a
good
idea
if
we
just
spent.
You
know
a
minute
each
just
to
introduce
everyone
paul.
Does
that
sound
like
a
good
idea?
It.
C
Karen
and
paul
I'm
going
to
jump
in
so
sure
to
clarify
the
format,
for
this
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different
than
the
general
and
that
we
are
going
to
have
a
consecutive
translation
to
spanish,
which
is
going
to
slow
the
conversation
down
a
little
bit.
But
I
think
it's
the
best
way
that
we
can
capture
the
entire
conversation
on
a
recording
for
the
public
to
see.
D
E
Everybody,
yes,
this
is
jennifer,
so
I'll
be
your
spanish
interpreter.
So
yes,
the
consecutive
mode
requires
that
you
pause.
Take
short
pauses,
try
not
to
talk
for
several
minutes
at
a
time.
We
can
do
a
pretty
good
job,
but
the
idea
is
if
you
could
keep
your
interventions
just
keeping
that
in
mind
and
then
pause
for
me
to
give
the
rendition
into
spanish
or
english
as
corresponds.
Thank
you.
A
F
There,
my
name
is
anne-marie
jensen,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
east
county
housing,
opportunity
coalition.
We
are
an
education,
training
and
advocacy
group
working
with
local
governments
to
try
and
secure
more
affordable
housing
and
equitable
housing,
and
I
have
to
step
out
just
for
five
minutes.
I'm
sorry!
I
will
be
right
back.
A
A
E
G
G
Thank
you.
My
name
is
claire
levy.
I
am
a
boulder
county,
commissioner,
and
I'm
the
commissioner
that's
going
to
be
the
link
between
this
group
and
the
rest
of
the
commissioners
and
I'm
very
happy
to
have
this
opportunity
to
work
on
affordable
housing.
It's
something
I
spent
some
effort
on
in
my
advocacy
work
in
denver
after
I
left
the
legislature
and
had
the
privilege
of
serving
on
the
board
of
border
housing
partners
as
well,
which
was
a
tremendous
learning
opportunity
for
me.
A
H
A
I
F
J
E
D
Hey
everyone
I'm
laura
scheinbaum.
I
am
the
director
of
real
estate
development
for
boulder
housing
partners.
We
are
the
housing
authority
for
the
city
of
boulder
and
I
oversee
new
construction
development
renovation
of
our
existing
portfolio
and
then
purchasing
preservation,
units
for
affordable,
deeply,
affordable
and
perpetuity
housing,
and
more
so
thanks
nice
to
be
here.
E
M
F
F
O
E
B
B
B
And
I
think
you
know
just
to
highlight
a
couple
of
things
just
again,
something
you
know
we're
looking
for
for
work.
That
is
transformational
and
you
know
trying
to
strike
that
balance
between
long-term
transformational
change
and
short-term
immediate
relief.
I
think
you
know
to
me
if,
if
we
could
achieve
that,
that
that
would
be
a
great
start
for
any
work
that
we
do.
B
B
B
F
A
And
I
think
that's
something
that
we
all
will
decide
as
a
group.
You
know,
as
we
start
talking
about
how
we're
going
to
move
forward.
That's
certainly
something
we
you
know
we're.
We
are
allowed
to
break
up
into
smaller
groups
and
there
could
be
a
group
that
goes
off
and
sort
of
researches
and
gathers
that
information
and
comes
back
and
makes
a
recommendation
to
the
larger
group.
We
can
also
be
communicating
with
each
other
via
email
in
between
meetings.
So
definitely
that
will
be
something
on
our
radar.
E
A
A
So
something
that
paul-
and
I
have
been
talking
about
and
exchanging
emails
about,
is
how
we
want
to
hold
this
space
and
we
want
it
to
be
inclusive
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
voice
is
heard
and
that
everyone
is
empowered
to
do
so.
And
of
course,
we
appreciate
any
input
or
feedback
that
any
of
the
members
would
like
to
share
with
us
as
we
are
moving
forward
as
a
team.
E
B
B
And
I
think
that
karen
would
join
me
in
wanting
to
acknowledge
that
our
role
is
really
to
be
facilitators.
We're
not
here,
you
know
we're
we're
called
co-leads,
but
it's
not
a
role
where
we're
going
to
be
directive
or
prescriptive.
We
have,
we
have
no
more
say
than
anybody
else
as
far
as
what
comes
out
of
this
group,
so
we
want
to
just
assure
folks
up
front
that
we
are
here
just
to
guide
the
process
forward
and
guide
the
conversation.
E
B
E
B
B
And
I
would
just
note
that,
on
the
bottom
bullet
for
promoting
equity
and
accessibility,
obviously
this
bucket
will
pour
into
all
the
other
ones.
But
we
wanted
to
call
out
a
couple
of
specific
bullets
here,
just
because
those
were
ones
where
the
feedback
was
just
very
much
centered
on
an
issue
of
equity
or
accessibility.
E
E
E
E
E
M
M
That
would
be
beneficial
and
just
wondering
if
that's
a
role
that
we're
playing
in
either
suggesting
or
recommending
potential
land
use
policies
that
either
are
contingent
on
funding
or
go
along
with
funding
or
in
some
way
encourage
different
land
use
policies
to
be
made.
If
that's
the
role
of
this
committee.
E
B
Yeah
kurt
that
that's
a
good
question.
I
saw
that
come
up.
I
think,
in
the
chat
when
the
urban
institute
was
presenting,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
necessarily
got
an
answer.
So
I
can
check
with
leslie
irwin
to
see
if
that's
an
accessible
use
of
funding,
but
I
think
you
know
in
in
the
broader
scope
anything
is
on
the
table
really
and
let's
you
know,
we
can
certainly
discuss
what
it
might
look
like,
but
I'll
try
to
get
an
answer
to
that
quickly
from
leslie.
A
M
H
M
E
E
A
E
A
One
thing
I
can
say
is
that
paul
and
I
reached
out
to
the
city
of
louisville
for
instance,
and
asked
if
they
wanted
to
get
more
involved
in
this,
but
they're
overwhelmed
and
I
believe,
superior
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
commissioner
levy
would
like
to
say
something
about
this
or
not
or
paul.
If
you
have
something
to
add.
E
B
F
F
I
know
boulder
already
has
that,
and
I
know
there
are
some
limited
services
through
bridge
to
justice,
but
they're
still
charging
a
hundred
dollars
an
hour.
You
know
that's
a
reduced
rate,
but
low
income
people
can't
really
access
that,
so
the
whole
concept
of
how
we
can
help
people
stay
in
their
homes.
If
they
have
something
that
works
for
them.
F
E
A
A
H
Yeah
I
picked
up
from
the
presentations
earlier
that
one
of
the
focus
of
the
housing
bucket,
if
you
will-
is
providing
water
and
sanitation
services,
and
I
don't
see
that
in
this
list
I
think
that
that's
important,
especially
for
manufactured
homes-
and
you
know-
maybe
it's
not
top
of
mind,
because
most
people
assume
that
boulder
county
everyone
has
bottled
water.
But
that's
not
the
case.
So
I
wanted
to
hide
like
that.
A
A
I
Hi,
sorry,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
expand
on
what
anna
said
to
say
that
the
in
the
first
section
it
was
really
about
all
types
of
infrastructure,
so
that
couldn't
be
it
for
new
development
of
housing.
So
it's
not
specific
to
mobile
home
parks,
although
I
think
that
it's
a
great
use
of
those
funds,
but
let's
just
make
sure
that
we
put
it
in
as
broad
terms
as
possible.
E
A
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there
isn't
anything
left
that
needs
to
be
said
about
that
list.
If
there
was
anything
else
that
was
missing
and
if
you
think
about
it
after
this
meeting
just
go
ahead
and
and
email
us
and
paul
I
was
thinking,
does
it
make
sense
to
share
that
whole
bucket
list
with
everyone
after
this
meeting
and
then
other
thoughts,
people
have
tweaks
they
want
to
make,
they
could
do
afterwards.
B
Yes,
I
think
that
makes
perfect
sense
karen
and
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
really
just
start
a
working
document.
You
can
check
with
johanna
to
see
if
there's
a
preferred
format,
but
if
we
start
a
working
document
now
with
these
ideas
and
thoughts,
then
we
can
each
go
in
ad.
Add
comments
start.
You
know
discussion
within
that
at
our
our
ideas
that
we
may
have
that
are
a
little
bit
more
specific.
B
E
G
G
And
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
challenges
in
trying
to
do
any
new
development
that
is
not
on
the
drawing
board
already.
So
it's
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
that
it's
actually
a
pretty
short
time
frame
for
developing
an
affordable
housing
project,
another
concept
and
actually,
if
the
translators
need
me
to
stop
now,
I'm
happy
to
wait
before
I
say
my
other
ideas.
E
A
So
again,
really
good
points
and
as
we
develop
our
plan
going
forward,
I
think
that
will
be
something
we
need
to
consider.
I
think
leslie
is
on
this
call
and
leslie.
If
you
are,
could
you
just
clarify
that
if
money
gets
put
into
a
certain
bucket,
so
let's
say
a
trust
fund
or
a
fund
to
support
home
ownership
or
whatever
it's
called,
and
it
happens
before
the
due
date?
Is
that
good
enough.
P
A
P
I
am
doing
a
little
research
on
that
whole
concept.
I
looked
in
the
final
rule
and
the
final
rule
is
absolutely
silent
on
housing
trust
funds.
It
does
talk
about
landmaking
where
you
do
purchase
the
land,
so
you
would
have
that.
So
I
need
to
get
back
to
you
on
the
eligibility
parameters
around
housing,
trust
funds.
P
As
far
as
you
know,
home
ownership
assistance
that
would
that
could
look
like
a
down
payment
assistance
program
and
that
would
need
to
be
obligated
in
some
way
and
we
would
have
to
discuss
what
that
would
be
by
that
december
2024
deadline,
but
I
will
provide
this
group
more
guidance
around
the
housing
trust
fund.
I'm
researching
that
right
now,
great.
A
F
So
I
I
want
to
echo
that
I
think
the
trust
fund
question
and
getting
a
clear
answer
to
that
is
really
important,
because
it
may
give
us
some
time
not
to
have
to
be
as
specific
and
tight
with
some
of
our
decisions
if
we
can
create
a
county-wide
housing
trust
fund.
That
then
could
look
at
things
more
slowly
or
you
know
not
by
the
deadlines
in
arpa
I'm
putting
in
the
chat.
Michael
anderson
is
the
national
guy
who
does
housing
trust
fund
work
he's
at
the
center
for
community
change.
F
E
F
So
the
couple
other
questions
I
have
are
procedural
questions
and
one
is
sort
of
I
I
think
in
the
federal
language
they
use
the
term
maintenance
and
effort.
But
if
we
have
communities
like
we
saw
that
longmont
has
done
a
lot
on
affordable
housing
with
its
own
arpa
dollars,
and
then
we
have
other
communities
that
may
have
done
nothing
are
we
are
we
going
to
favor
those
who
put
some
in
of
their
own
money?
Procedurally
where
they
have
some
matching?
F
Should
we
put
all
our
affordable
housing
back
to
the
whole
question
of
the
most
bang
for
our
buck?
If
we're
gonna,
do
land
banking,
for
example,
do
we
do
it
there,
where
it's
the
cheapest
land,
or
do
we
have
a
principle
of
trying
to
spread
affordable
housing
out
around
the
county?
And
I
I
could
argue
it
both
ways,
but
I
think
this
group
needs
to
decide
what
its
value
is
or
are,
as
we
think
about
that.
A
E
A
So
it's
a
great
it's
a
great
statement
and
comment,
and
we
should
take
that
into
consideration
and
I
think
once
we
figure
out
how
we're
moving
forward
if
we're
going
into
subgroups
or
how
we're
going
to
attack
these
different
buckets.
We
definitely
do
want
to
consider
that
ann
marie.
That's
a
good
point.
M
M
So
I
wanted
to
comment
a
couple
of
things.
Anna
marie
mentioned.
The
first
was
about
the
eviction
prevention.
One
of
the
things
that
I'll
mention
is
our
eviction.
Prevention
program
in
the
city
actually
works
in
the
county
courts,
and
so
our
staff
are
challenged
with
not
being
able
to
help
people
because
they
don't
live
in
the
city
of
boulder,
but
it's
the
same
process.
M
It
would
be
pretty
easy
and
relatively
simple
to
expand
that
program
to
cover
the
county.
The
infrastructure
is
already
there,
however,
I'll
just
add
that
this
is
paid
for
by
landlords
they
pay
75
a
year,
it'd
be
nice
to
have
a
better
approach
than
arpa.
I
believe
that
would
be
a
sustainable
funding
source
similar
to
that
that
we
should
also
consider,
and
then
I
have
one
more
I'll
stop
there
and
I'll
have
one
more
comment.
M
M
A
Before
I
call
on
stefka
to
reply,
I
just
want
to
say
one
of
my
intentions
that
paul-
and
I
talked
about-
is
that
after
this
conversation,
we're
going
to
just
take
a
pause
and
if
there's
anybody
who
hasn't
spoken
yet
today
and
really
would
like
to
contribute
we're
going
to
offer
you
that
time
so
stefa.
Would
you
like
to
respond
to
michael's
suggestion.
I
Great
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
really
interesting
idea-
I
I'm
seeing
what's
happening
in
the
chat
too,
where
ann
marie
kind
of
chimed
in
saying
that
it
is
still
unclear
at
the
state
level
whether
that
loan
fund
is
actually
a
something
that
can
actually
be
used
under
arpa.
I
I
see
you
said
that
they're
saying
it
can't
be,
but
I
I
thought
that
it
was
still
in
question,
but
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
about
that.
I
I
would
also
like
to
know
on
the
idea
of
the
bullet
point.
We
talked
about
earlier
revolving
leveraging
existing
funds
that
it
would
be
really
helpful,
and
this
could
be
like
an
interim
homework
piece
or
something
for
everyone
to
talk
about
ways
that
they,
the
things
they're
already
doing,
that
need
a
final
piece
or
like
we
just
did
receive
funding
from
the
state
from
the
ahip
funds.
That
is
specific,
around
bipark
homeownership
rates,
and
so
things
like
that
that
are
already
happening.
I
I
would
like
some
to
kind
of
know
an
inventory
if
you
will
of
what's
going
on
so
that
we
know
what's
out
there
to
leverage.
So
that's
one
thing
and
on
the
front
of
what
is
eligible
or
not,
does
anyone
know,
or
can
we
put
a
question
out
as
to
how
the
local
the
local
government
funds
can
be
layered
or
not
with
the
statewide
funds.
E
A
M
That's
correct
I'll,
be
very,
very
quick,
so
what
michael
described
is
a
a
very
good
approach
that
that
is
sort
of
figured
out
as
far
as
buying
existing
market
rate
apartments
or
units
and
putting
them
into
affordable
housing,
and
it
it
leverages
the
money
by
probably
four
or
five
to
one.
So
if
we
put
in
a
million
dollars
of
arpa
fund
into
purchasing
a
apartment
building,
it
would
be
matched
by
by
four
or
five
million
dollars.
E
A
P
P
It's
super
wonky
regulatory
language,
but
housing
trust
funds
are
not
eligible.
There
was
a
public
comment,
question
about
making
economic
development
corporations,
etc,
etc,
considered
obligated
when
you
set
that
up
and
so
that
you
could
extend
the
expenditure,
timeline
and
treasury
says
no
and
refers
back
to
the
expense
has
to
be
incurred,
meaning
obligated
by
december
31st
2024.
So
that's
a
no
and
on
land
banking.
I
just
need
to
let
you
know.
There
are
specific
parameters
in
treasury
guidance
around
land,
banking.
P
It
is
eligible,
you
could
purchase
the
land
and
there
are
parameters
around
that
that
I'd
be
happy
to
provide
to
this
group
third
and
is
revolving
loan
fund,
and
we
can
do
that.
The
first
loan,
though,
has
to
be
made
by
that
deadline
of
2020
december
2024,
and
then
treasury
has
parameters
on
how
we
treat
repayment
of
principal
and
interest
and
if
a
loan
doesn't
mature
by
2026
how
we
calculate
repayment
beyond
that
date,
so
it
gets
a
little
complicated.
But
yes,
it's
eligible
and
I'll
pause
there
for
interpreting.
E
A
And
you
just
got
a
shout
out,
thank
you
for
interpreting
excellent
job,
what
a
great
job
you're
doing.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
before
we
talk
about
our
next
meeting
time
and
our
next
steps.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
for
some
of
you
who
have
been
doing
such
a
great
job
of
listening,
if
there's
something
that
you
want
to
to
add
to
the
conversation
and
if
so
just
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand.
E
A
J
D
Thank
you
ann,
so
the
question
was
there
are
already
established
mechanisms
within
the
county
and
city
and
I'm
sure
all
the
other
municipalities
in
the
in
the
county
for
distribution
of
funds.
So
would
that
count
as
not
establishing
a
new
trust
but
using
an
already
established
mechanism
for
distribution
of
money
elongate
or
extend
the
timeline?
So
that's
one
question
and
I
wanted
to
speak
to
our
ideas
on
pipeline
and
as
somebody
who
actually
does
some
of
this
work,
what
we've
got
going
on
and.
E
A
D
J
G
J
Yes,
thank
you
so
kind
of
switching
gears
a
little
bit.
I'm
I'm
also
thinking
about
the
the
the
need
to
invest
in
kind
of
pre-housing
supports,
and
obviously
we
work
with
a
number
of
families
that
find
themselves
homeless
because
of
domestic
violence,
and
I
know
anna
works
with
with
families
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
or
on
the
verge
of
homelessness.
Because
of
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
N
A
C
C
E
C
C
A
E
H
C
And
to
clarify
so
there
are
only
two
more
working
group
meetings.
They
are
going
to
be
occurring
every
other
week
and
you
will
be
able
to
communicate
on
these
issues
in
between.
If
you
would
like
me
to
help
set
up
a
platform
for
you
to
communicate
on
either
slack
or
if
there's
something
else
that
you
prefer
happy
to
do.
That.
A
A
We
talked
about
sharing
the
bucket
list,
which
I
think
the
the
link
was
shared
in
the
chat,
although
we
can
johanna
can
send
it
to
everybody,
and
then
you
had
suggested
a
homework
project
where
we
all
kind
of
look
at
what
are
what's
in
the
pipeline
and
could
just
need
some
extra
support,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
how
we'd
like
to
do
that.
Maybe
johanna
you
could
set
up
a
a
document
that
we
could
populate.
C
Yes,
so
on
the
document
that
I
pasted
some
of
those
slides,
it
can
add
on
there,
and
I
think
that
would
be
an
easy
place
to
share
thoughts
and
ideas,
and
then
sophia
will
also
be
sharing.
The
meeting
notes
from
today
that
will
have
some
action
items
and
next
steps
that
need
to
be
taken.
So
we
can
put
a
note
in
there
karen
and
paul.
I
can
speak
with
you
after
about
what
specific
action
items
we
want
to
include.