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From YouTube: March 15, 2022 - ARPA Housing Meeting
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A
And
we
could
go
ahead
and
get
started
and
just
go
through
the
agenda
instead
of
doing
any
introductions,
we
thought
today
we
could
just
ask
you
to
put
your
name
and
your
title
of
the
organization
you're
with
in
the
chat.
That
would
be
a
great
way
for
everyone
to
know
who's
here.
I
believe
everybody's
met
each
other
already,
and
I
guess
I
should
check
in.
Is
there
anyone
here
today
who's
new
to
the
process
who
hasn't
made
it
to
a
meeting
so
far?
And
if
so,
do
you
want
to
just
say,
hi
and
introduce
yourself.
B
D
So,
in
the
name
of
linguistic
justice,
we
we
I
started
out
in
spanish
and
secondly,
the
explanation
I'm
about
to
give
you
is
that
in
you
will
see
a
globe
as
soon
as
they
put
me
in
the
interpreting
channel
that
you
will,
you
can
press
and
go
to
english
select
english,
even
if
you,
even
if
you
are
bilingual,
select
a
channel
or
select
english,
because
that
way
you
will
be
able
to
exchange
ideas
across
the
across
the
board.
Thank
you
very
much
and
they're
about
to
put
me
in
the
channel.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
D
B
A
B
Well
thanks
karen
yeah,
just
we
wanted
to
run
through
the
results.
As
a
group,
I
think
that
you
know
karen
and
I
have
certainly
looked
at
them
and
and
come
to
some
thoughts
on
what
they
reflect.
So
I
think
that
we
as
a
group
should
look
through
it
together
and
discuss
and
folks
can
kind
of
raise
their
thoughts
on
what
they're,
seeing
what
themes
they've
seen
and
you
know
how
we
possibly
can
best
move
forward
based
on
the
data.
That's
there.
B
A
So
we'll
spend
about
a
half
hour
doing
that
and
we
do
ask
that
people
keep
their
comments
down
to
two
minutes
or
less
just
so.
We
can
try
to
hear
from
everybody
in
that
half
hour
and
then
we'll
move
into
another
hour
of
distilling
it
down
to
hopefully
three
to
five
ideas
and
then
we'll
end
the
meeting
talking
about
next
steps.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
paul.
If
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
survey
results
and
what
and
share
that
with
folks.
B
I'm
going
to
share
a
different
view
so
bear
with
me.
I
also
wanted
to
confirm,
if
somebody's
taking
notes,
because
I
was
hoping
to
take
notes,
but
since
I'm
going
to
be
moving
between
these
windows,
I
don't
really
have
that
opportunity,
but
I
believe
somebody
from
our
team
is
taking
notes.
Is
that
correct.
B
B
F
B
So
this
is
the
kind
of
the
interactive
response
window
and
I
hope
you
all
can
see
it
big
enough.
So,
looking
at
this
first
question
that
we
asked
we
wanted
to
just
kind
of
get
folks
feeling
for
how
they
would
prioritize
the
buckets
you
know
we
feel
that
what's
reflected
here
is
a
pretty
clear
choice
of
the
of
the
top
three
so
that
being
increase,
affordable,
sustainable
housing,
inventory,
land
building,
acquisition
for
affordable
housing
and
then
the
promote
equity
and
accessibility.
B
Keeping
in
mind
that
this
one
is
the
one
that
kind
of
informs
the
whole
process
and
informs
all
others.
So,
as
you
see
here,
what
this
is
showing
us
sorry
for
the
mouseovers,
but
you
can
see
you
know
it
was
the
first
choice.
We
had
basically
ten
votes,
so
first
choice.
One
second
choice:
six
third
choice,
one!
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a
weighted
system
in
this
microsoft's
forms
interface.
B
B
F
B
Yeah,
I
understand
that
I
think
that's
you
know,
that's
part
of
the
challenge
that
we
need
to
face,
and
that's
why
you
know,
I
think
we're
we're
propone
we're
we're
supporting
the
thought
that
this
survey
is
not
necessarily
a
be
all
and
all
determination
of
where
we
go.
It's
more
just
kind
of
informing
the
discussion,
so
I
think
that
those
kind
of
either
conflicts
or
or
redundancies.
F
Sure
to
go
back
to
the
initial
point,
the
if
we
think
of
promote
equity
as
as
basically
a
component
of
everything,
then
the
way
I
read
these
rankings
would
be
increase.
Affordability
is
first,
land
building
acquisition
is
second,
financial
relief
is
third,
where
all
of
those
components
we're
we're
feeling
a
strong
need
to
to
weight
them
in
terms
of
how
money
is
distributed
so
that
equity
is
served.
B
Yeah
yeah,
I'm
sorry.
If
I
misunderstood
your
initial
question,
but
yeah
I
mean
I
personally
would
agree
with
that.
I
would
agree
that
you
know
this.
One
is
not
necessarily
a
category
on
the
same
kind
of
scale
or
level
as
the
others,
because
it
is
part
of
all
of
it
and
informs
all
of
them.
So
in
a
way
this
one
almost
gets
knocked
out.
A
And
I
think
it
just
supports
what
we
all
came
to
an
agreement
on,
which
is
that
that
equity
accessibility
bucket
pours
into
every
bucket
so
that
that's
the
lens
we're
using
as
we're
deciding
the
three
to
five
ideas
that
we
want
to
end
up.
Focusing
on
in
our
next
steps.
You
know
making
sure
that
we
have
that
equity
accessibility
lens
on.
B
Excuse
me,
so
I
think
that
what
we're
seeing
here
is
some
balance,
but
again,
there's
also
some
overlap
here
and
just
as
a
reminder
that
you
know
we
had
sent
this
out
beforehand.
So
you
know,
you've
got
a
view
of
some
of
this
and-
and
I
may
actually
switch
to
the
powerpoint
view,
because
I
think
the
mouse
overs
are
a
little
bit
tough
for
me
and
I'm
imagining
that
maybe
it's
making
it
tough
for
you
all
so
bear
with
me
again.
E
A
B
B
B
So
this
one
even
touches
on
you
know
one
of
the
ones
that
we
saw
in
the
other
than
the
previous
category
as
far
as
you
know,
purchasing
existing
buildings
so
slightly
balanced
as
far
as
a
top
few
and
then
a
next
few
there
and
then.
Finally,
the
other
bucket
was
financial
relief
assistance
for
housing,
and
that's
this
one
here
so
again:
kind
of
a
balance
among
these
top
four
expanding
eviction,
prevention,
services,
property,
tax
assistance,
targeted
rental
assistance
and
then
the
middle.
E
B
B
Maybe
it
was
the
previous
one
that
that
was
previous.
Sorry,
thanks
no
problem,
so
you
know
again,
I'm
not
you
know
we
can.
I
can.
I
can
get
into
thoughts
on
this
at
any
level,
but
I
think
really
what
we're
after
is
using
this
survey
and
using
these
thoughts
to
really
kind
of
inform
the
discussion
that
follows
so
I'll,
throw
it
out
there
for
anybody
that
may
have
any
questions
or
thoughts
on
what
they
felt
about
the
survey
and
what
it
showed.
A
G
D
A
H
H
You
know
some
of
these
are
big
ticket
items
and
I
think
we
need
a
way
to
figure
out
how
many
you
know
how
we
can
serve
the
most
people
with
the
money
we
have,
but
it's
it.
This
gets
into
methodology
a
little
bit
here
too,
because
this
group
may
decide
that
that
is
not
actually
the
goal
to
serve
the
most
people.
It
might
be
to
try
to
serve
people
in
different
segments
sectors.
You
know
try
serving
people
who
are
unhoused
and
serving
low-income
renters
and
trying
to
create
some
home
ownership
opportunities.
H
H
I
This
is
kurt
fernher
claire,
so
I
can
respond
to
that
and
then
I'll
I've
got
other
questions,
but
I'll
leave
those
until
later.
So
that's
a
that's.
That's
a
part
of
the
the
regional
housing
partnership
program
and
that's
a
proposal
that
is
currently
put
together
now
to
support
the
mountain
communities.
I
So
it's
it's
cost
for
the
administrative
and
policy
and
regulatory
staff
that
would
be
required
on
a
regional
basis
to
get
those
ih
programs
working
effectively
in
each
community,
and
it's
also
part
of
that
is
the
is
the
ownership
program
which
we're
exploring
and
launching
on
a
regional
basis
as
well.
So
it
would
support.
A
And
so
one
thing
I
wanted
to
just
say
to
everyone
is
what
we
were
envisioning
is:
let's
say
that
becomes
one
of
the
three
to
five
initiatives
and
ideas
that
everyone
agrees
we
should
pursue
more
then.
What
would
likely
happen
is
a
small
group
of
people
who
you
know
two
or
three
would
actually
form
a
little
committee
and
they
would
work
on
this
and
present
at
our
next
meeting
a
fleshed-out.
A
You
know
project
analysis,
you
know
what
does
it
look
like?
Who
does
it
serve
and
then
maybe
all
the
different
ideas
in
the
survey
that
it
touches
on
because,
as
everybody
said,
so
many
of
these
overlap
and
so
anyways?
That's
kind
of
explanation
to
the
question
of
how
are
we
going
to
move
forward
is
by
considering
these
ideas
and
then
forming
teams
who
will
work
between
now
and
our
meeting
in
two
weeks
to
to
really
dig
deeper
so
paul?
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
say
anything
else
about
that.
J
C
Sorry
I
have
to
turn
everything
on
because
I'm
my
internet's
unstable.
I
I
had
a
question
about
the
equity
bucket
that
we're
talking
about
as
overriding
all
the
other
buckets
and
it
seems
to
me
we
need
hold
on
there.
I
need
to
shut
my
door.
Sorry,
we
need
some
principles
for
what
we
mean
by
that,
and
and
for
example,
do
we
mean
traditionally
marginalized
groups
who
have
not
shared
in
housing
in
boulder
county,
in
the
same
way
that
you
know
white
middle-class
americans
have
we
do
we
mean
immigrants?
C
Do
we
mean
people
of
color?
Do
we
mean
the
disabled,
or
do
we
mean
people
who
were
more
disproportionately
affected
during
the
pandemic,
such
as
you
know,
certain
kind
of
workers
that
you
know
hourly
rate
workers
or
service
employees
or
whatever,
and
and
whatever
we
mean
as
we
look
at
our
options,
I
think
we
need
to
be
specific
about
how
we
intend
to
make
up
for
the
lack
of
equity
and
and
think
through.
For
example,
are
we
going
to
give
preference
to
people
who
were
unfairly.
C
A
A
How
can
we
implement
this
program
in
ways
that
will
be
transformational?
Does
this
address
equity
and,
as
you
said,
equity
is
a
big
word.
It
covers
a
lot
of
things
and
I'm
not
sure
we
can
say
which
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
how
if
we
actually
want
to
try
to
distill
it
down
to
just
one
or
two
equity
situations
or
just
try
to
address
it
broad
stroke,
that's
a
great
question
and
when
implemented,
would
this
program
meet
our
shared
goals
and
then
will
it
require
additional
county
resources?
A
So
I
just
thought:
I'd
I'd
speak
that
just
as
a
reminder
to
you
know
what
what
what
is
sort
of
like
our
north
star,
our
guiding
principles
and
another
thought
anne-marie
is.
Maybe
there
is
a
small
group
who
that's
what
they
go
out
and
study
on
in
the
next
two
weeks.
You
know
to
be
more
specific
about
that
and
and
then
the
bucket
the
equity
accessibility
bucket
pours
into
each
bucket.
A
I
So
I'll
just
give
some
of
my
reactions,
and
I
I
think
this,
this
presentation
and
the
outcomes
of
the
survey
have
been
very
helpful.
So
thanks
to
paul
and
others
that
worked
on
that,
I
like
the
idea
of
the
the
the
shovel
ready
sites
and
the
in
supporting
the
pipeline.
It's
worth
noting
that
our
housing
authorities
in
longmont's,
older
county
and
city
of
boulder
are
probably
helping
the
most
or
the
widest
diversity
of
of
individuals
as
far
as
amis
and
they're
and
they're.
I
I
My
I
think,
there's
a
challenge
in
providing
improvements
to
private
infrastructure
and
owners
of
mobile
home
parks.
It
really
benefits
them
the
most.
So
I
would
have
a
concern
about
that,
but
resident
owned
parks.
That
seems
like
a
good
approach.
The
eviction
prevention
there's
been
a
lot
of
coordination
regionally
around
this.
I
think
the
the
rental
assistance
is
the
one
component
of
that
that
I
think
needs
to
be
solved
for,
but
there
is
current
funding
for
it
now.
F
The
second
point
I
was
hoping
to
make
was
in
response
to
claire's
point
about
about
how
to
I
use
the
methodology
of
ranking
things,
and
I
was
just
hoping
to
to
emphasize
two
two
kinds
of
goals
that
strike
me
as
as
on
both
good
but
separate
ones,
and
one
is
measuring
displacement
and
so
the
kinds
of
of
things
we
could
do.
That
would
prevent
people
from
losing
the
homes
that
they
already
are
in
and
and
and
use
that
as
a
particular
as
an
important
measure.
F
And
then
the
other
is
is
what
I
I
see.
More
standardly
used
is
just
the
number
of
affordable
units
that
that
happen
to
be
available
within
within
the
county
as
an
inventory
of
affordable
units.
So
the
two
seem
like
they're
they're,
separate
measures
and-
and
you
can
have
a
nice
inventory
of
affordable
units,
yet
people
are
being
displaced
very
frequently.
A
E
K
K
Some
of
the
proposals
have
opportunities
to
consider
both
or
one
or
the
other
affordable.
It
doesn't
from
what
I
can
see.
The
arpa
funds
don't
completely
restrict
affordable
housing
to
the
definition
provided
by
hud,
which
is
below
80
of
median
income,
but
I'd
like
to
confirm
that
attainable
is
eligible,
so
leslie,
if
you
I
saw
you
on
here,
are
you
there
still?
K
J
J
J
You
can
have
a
certain
small
percentage,
I
think,
under
home
up
to
80
ami.
I
think
it
might
be
10.
I'd
need
to
look
again,
but
the
national
housing
trust
fund
was,
I
think,
even
more
constrained
at
a
lower
income
and
those
are,
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
they're
more
in
the
60
ami
50
ami
neighborhood,
and
then
you
have
to
have
in
the
mix
some
very
low
income
housing
at
thirty
percent
and
mine.
J
What
I'm
hearing,
unless
it's
done
out
of
a
different
bucket
and
here's,
where
it's
a
little
wonky
and
confusing
but
I'll?
Just
let
you
know,
and
I'm
not
dangling
this
for
all
of
the
groups.
I
just
think
it
fits
best
with
this
group,
so
boulder
county
did
opt
into
a
one-time
revenue
reduction
of
10
million
dollars,
and
that
has
a
little
more
flexibility
in
that
bucket.
We
can
fund
government
services
out
of
that
bucket,
and
so
we
there
is
a
separate
bucket
that
the
commissioners
could
decide.
J
J
Okay,
did
that
answer
your
question:
molly
yeah.
Thank
you
I'll.
Send
you
the
memo
since
you're
a
housing
wonk
I
might
send,
like
I'm
just
happy
to
send
it
to
the
whole
group
or
you
and
kurt
or
whoever
really
understands
those
programs,
because
I
I
don't
I'm
not
a
housing
person,
but
it's
really
the
home
program
and
national
housing
trust
fund
are
our
parameters.
J
A
H
Yeah
thanks
thanks
again
and
I'm
just
jumping
around
through
these
slides
a
little
bit
and
then
questions
occur
to
me
that
hadn't
occurred
to
me
before
on
working
with
bhp
on
pipeline
projects
to
provide
gap
funding.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
here's
the
question,
so
I'm
really
glad
laura
scheinbaum
is
here.
H
So
that's
one
question
I
have
and
another
one
that
that
I
was
thinking
about
on
this
same
slide
on
purchasing
existing
buildings
and
subs,
subsidize
rental
costs,
which
you
know
I
I
think
that's
a
great
opportunity
to
try
to
preserve
existing.
You
know
sort
of
affordable,
but
this
is
a
question.
Maybe
lauren
laura
kurt
might
know
the
answer
to
about
whether
we
can
you
know
the
timeline
is
such
that
we
could
put
some
of
this
money
into
some
other
package
to
to
buy
a
building.
L
Okay
yeah,
so
I
was
going
to
add
that
we
put
all
of
our
pipeline
projects
into
a
document
the
other
day
that,
and
there
there's
a
lot
of
them
quite
frankly.
So
so
that
could
be
really
helpful,
especially
backing
down
affordability,
because
you
know
like
40s
and
50s
and
60s
60s.
There
starts
to
be
capture
rate
issues
with
private
developers
who
are
developing
in
the
affordable
realm,
but
they
seem
to
put
their
affordability
limits
at
60
of
ami.
So
when
we
can
go
deeper,
that's
really
helpful
so
clara.
L
So
I
think
the
structure
of
that
we
just
need
to
be
thoughtful
about
like
could
we
purchase
it,
like
you
suggest,
with
cash
resources
that
are
not
our
money
and
then
have
those
replenished
in
some
way.
So
it's
not
going
directly
to
that
purchase
so
we
can
transition
to
affordable.
So
the
displacement
is
not
acute.
So
to
speak.
L
L
M
A
M
B
G
Anna
yeah,
I
I
have
a
quick
comment.
I
I
think
that
many
of
the
of
the
items
in
the
list
are
targeting
home
ownership,
for
example,
and
I
think
that,
while
that's
obviously
an
important
topic
for
the
housing
crisis
that
we're
experiencing,
if
we're
thinking
about
the
hardest
hit
in
the
pandemic
and
this
issue
of
equity,
I
think
that
we
should
focus
on
affordable
rental,
more
than
home
ownership.
So
just
increasing
the
number.
The
inventory
is:
not
it's
not
enough
to
to
be
equitable.
G
The
hardest
hit
are
obviously
low-income
workers
and
families.
I
also
want
to
elevate
the
issue
of
family
homelessness,
which
is
usually
not
a
prominent
topic
when
discussing
homelessness.
That
the
first
thing
that
comes
to
people's
minds
is
usually
encampments
and
single
adults,
but
the
issue
of
family
homelessness
is
is,
is
increasing
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic,
and
so
I
wanted
to
kind
of
like
highlight
that
piece
of
homelessness
before
we
have
the
you
know
not
homelessness
as
a
whole,
but
specifically
for
families
with
kids.
B
Thank
you
anna
and
I
again
not
not
proposing
a
solution,
but
just
calling
out
that
in
the
in
the
pipeline
project,
so
in
the
kind
of
the
list
of
the
pipeline
projects
there
are,
there
is
or
will
be
a
wide
array
of
housing
options
there,
affordable
rentals,
affordable
ownership,
family,
rentals
senior,
so
there's
there's
certainly
a
diverse.
There
are
diverse
options
there
that
we
could
look
on
and
focus
on.
Accordingly,
if
we
were
to
decide
to
do
that.
A
A
And
many
of
them,
as
anna
stated
you
know,
were
pandemic
related
frontline
workers
who
might
have
lost
their
jobs
in
the
hospitality
industry
or
whatever
it
is,
so
those
are
kind
of
the
five
big
things
I
heard
that
doesn't
mean
it's
everything,
and
so
I
I
open
the
floor
and
for
to
paul
and
to
everyone
else.
If
there
are
other
ideas
beyond
those
five
that
you
would
like
to
see,
us
dig
deeper
and
perhaps
form
a
committee
to
work
on
over
the
next
two
weeks.
C
Yeah,
I
I'm
hearing
anna's
point
about
rents
and
I
think
it's
a
really
valid
point,
but
I
think
part
of
the
problem
is
lack
of
supply
on
rent
and
that,
even
if
we
were
going
to
give
people
cash
to
rent
a
place,
finding
rentals
that
people
could
rent
is
challenging.
So
I
guess
I
would
like
to
have
her
amplify
or
explain
what
she
thinks.
Renters
really
need,
whether
it's
cash
assistance
or
whether
we're
focusing
back
on
creating
more
rental
housing,
because
we
don't
have
enough
supply.
G
G
C
Well,
I
guess
in
the
day-to-day
work
that
you're
seeing
at
effa,
if
you
had
cash
to
give
people,
could
they
find
a
rental
unit
right
now
or
are
we
focusing
on
cash
assistance
for
people
who
need
help
with
rental?
Are
we
focusing
on
creating
rentals,
at
least
in
the
eastern
part
of
boulder
county?
The
issue
seems
to
be
lack
of
available
rentals
period,
and
so
that's
a
different
question.
That's
more
of
a
development
question
or
a
construction
question.
Then.
G
C
A
F
So
that
was
that
was
a
suggestion
about
how
to
to
put
some
rankings
in
and
also
I
wanted
to
comment
because
the
the
five
list,
the
list
of
five
items,
I
think,
still
includes
the
the
spending
money
arpa
money
on
shovel
ready
projects,
which
I
think
is
super
important
but
the
but
the
net
impact
of
that
is.
Is
we
just
free
up
that
money
as
county
money?
And
so
so?
F
And
so
I
would
suggest
that
we
take
that
off
of
the
list
of
the
big
five
included
as
something
that
definitely
is
going
to
be
done,
but
then,
but
then
think
of
it
as
feeding
into
the
other
buckets
and
so
and
so
focus
the
priorities
on
on.
I
didn't
come
up
with
a
list
of
or
put
something
else
in
the
in
this
top
five,
with
the
assumption
that
the
shovel
ready
ideas
is
just
something
just
to
go
forward
with.
H
Thanks
so
I
have
a
question,
but
I
have
to
say
I
did
not
understand
michael
your
last
point.
If
everybody
else
did,
then
we
don't
need
to
come
back
to
it,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
understood
that
I
was
wondering
so
I
appreciated
anna's
comment
about
homeownership,
maybe
not
being
helpful
to
the
people
who
really
suffered
the
most
in
this
pandemic
and
need
the
most
help,
but
before
we
take
it
off
the
list,
I
don't
know
if
that
was
what
anna
was
suggesting.
H
You
know
it's
just
going
to
depend
on
the
size
of
the
mortgage
right,
so
so
I
I
think
I
think
I
would
like
to
know
more
about
that.
I
see
stuff
has
gotten
on
yeah.
I
knew
she
would.
I
knew
she
would
because-
and
the
reason
I
I
think
I
wanted
to
talk
about
homeownership
from
the
outset-
was
when
I
think
about
things
that
are
are
going
to
be
transformational.
H
Yes,
achieving
financial
security,
economic
security
in
an
affordable
rental
is
really
really
important,
but
when
we
talk
about
the
long-term
trajectory
of
a
household,
it's
it's
that
home
ownership
and
the
beginning
of
asset
building.
That
is
really
gonna,
be
a
total
game
changer,
as
opposed
to
just
creating
more
room
in
a
strained
budget,
and
I
don't
mean
to
minimize
how
important
that
is.
But
you
know
it
allows
people,
you
know
to
achieve
some
security,
but
it
probably
isn't
going
to
really
change
the
outcomes
for
for
kids
over
the
next
generation.
M
Am
I,
and
that
is
because
they're
able
to
bring
down
payment
assistance
and
things
like
that
into
play
so
that
that
can
can
remain
affordable
and
have
a
payment
of
under
33
of
their
income.
That
being
said,
I
hate
to
get
into
these
things
where
it's
like
home.
Ownership
is
better
than
rental
and
rental
is
more
important,
because
the
fact
is,
the
entire
spectrum
is
critical
and
each
of
those
things
are
putting
pressure
on
the
other,
and
so
it's
really
important.
M
Only
seven
percent
was
home
ownership
and
the
rest
was
rental,
and
so,
when
we
do
that,
what
happens
is
we
have
this
lowered
supply
of
home
ownership
and
then
it
becomes
something
that
is
no
longer
attainable,
not
only
to
low-income
people
but
to
middle-income
people,
and
it's
pushing
further
and
further
out
so
that
only
the
very
privileged
will
be
homeowners
in
this
next
generation.
If
we
don't
do
something
about
it,
I
mean
I
agree.
M
It
is
transformational
and,
moreover,
that
if
we
want
to
do
something
with
equity,
that
groups
marginalized
groups
have
been
blocked
out
of
home
ownership
for
a
very
long
time,
and
if
there's
something
we
can
do
to
transform
that
it
is
to
create
a
path
into
equity
building
you
know
and
and
home
ownership.
Obviously,
is
that
so
I
think
it's
critical.
I
would
also
add
that
habitat
for
humanity
serves.
M
I
Thank
you,
so
I,
what
I'm
gonna
suggest
is
that
the
the
buckets
get
a
little
bit
bigger.
I
think
there's
certain
things
that
we
can
combine
that
makes
sense
to
me
anyways,
so
the
purchase
of
land
or
investing
in
the
pipeline
or
purchasing
existing
apartment
buildings
and
turning
them
into
affordable
projects.
Those
kind
of
feel
like
the
same
bucket
and
that's
helping
to
create
more
units,
more
primarily
rental
units,
and
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
support
around
those
things.
I
But
they
kind
of
feel
like
one
bucket
to
me,
another
some
others.
I
think
that
would
go
together
in
another
bucket
fall
under
sort
of
the
category
of
regional
capacity
and
that's
the
the
capacity
to
create
ownership
units,
the
ih,
inclusionary
housing
capacity
and
even
the
eviction
prevention.
That's
a
that's
a
capacity
that
needs
to
be
increased
and
they
in
and
they're
also
regional
efforts.
I
So
possibly
we
could
think
of
combining
those,
but
we
do
need
to
understand
sort
of
the
resources
that
are
required
for
for
each
of
those,
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
just
say
I
I
appreciated
hannah's
bringing
up
you,
know,
family
homelessness
and
that
you
know
that
it
doesn't
get
the
same
sort
of
press
or
attention
that
single
adults
do.
But
I
think
some
of
the
initiatives
that
we're
talking
about
here
create
real
opportunities
for
helping
to
to
solve
family
homelessness.
K
So
I
just
wanted
to
tack
on
to
the
the
comment
made
about
homelessness
and
wrap
around
services,
so
I
will
say
that
the
the
projects
that
on
that
pipeline
list,
that
longmont
and
the
longmont
housing
authority
fed
into
it
are
part
of
longmont's
arpa
proposals
as
well.
So
this
is
a
two-prong
comment.
First
of
all
that
there
is
unhoused
options
considered
on
there
and
the
second
one
is
well
three,
the
third,
the
second
one
is
that,
with
the
wrap
around
care
we
just
have
to
think
about.
K
That
is
an
operational
ongoing
operational
cost.
So
if
we,
if
we
fund,
maybe
a
limited
number
of
years
and
then
let
let
funds
build
up
for
the
ongoing
manager
to
to
to
put
those
funds
together,
I'm
just
saying
that
the
operations
have
been
considered
under
arpa.
In
some.
You
know,
I've
heard
it
somewhere
in
conversations
about
the
possibility
of
that.
We
just
have
to
look
at
that
ongoing
and
what
that
commits
the
county
to
and
then
my
third
comment
is
in
putting
long
months.
K
Arpa
funded
some
of
them
are
funded
projects
on
that
list.
It
really
is
opening
up
the
invitation
to
do
joint
projects
and
pool
funds
if
there's
interest
there,
and
this
could
be
with
other
jurisdictions
as
well
boulder,
since
I
think
the
other
jurisdictions
would
be
more
reliant
on
boulder
county
but
to
pool
funds
and
then
serve
goals
of
two
organizations.
K
B
B
The
other
thing
in
terms
of
eviction,
prevention
and
family
homelessness,
I'm
not
sure
if
this
applies
or
not,
but
through
the
county's
housing
stabilization
program
that
is
kind
of
one
of
the
main
targets
is
keeping
families
housed.
So
I
think
that
is
a
case
where
we
may
have
an
existing
program
that
could
possibly
help
us
with
one
of
our
goals
and
might
be
worth
looking
into.
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
There.
O
L
L
O
O
But
I
really,
I
really
do
feel
that
if
we
don't
look
at
the
spectrum
of
need,
I
think
it
was
steph
that
identified
that
what
we
we
end
up,
just
putting
pressure
on
another
into
that
that
sort
of
resource
gap.
So
I'm
yeah
just
again
just
to
kind
of
acknowledge
that
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
look
at
this
in
terms
of
a
number
of
different
con
resource
pots
along
the
the
pathway.
F
Yeah
claire
mentioned
that
she
didn't
quite
get
the
point
that
I
was
trying
to
make,
and
I
was
hoping
to
verify
that
briefly
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
but
the
the
way
I
was
understanding
the
suggestion.
Is
that
not
just
give
a
a
simplified
model,
ignoring
admin
administrative
costs,
but
if,
if
we
spend
our
money
on
five
million
say
on
shovel
ready
projects,
suppose
that's
that's
what's
available
in
the
pipeline,
but
but
what
that
does.
F
Is
that
frees
up
five
million
dollars
of
county
money
already
dedicated,
then
the
the
result
is
that
we
still
have
five
million
dollars
to
spend
and
it's
just
five
million
dollars
with
different
kinds
of
strings,
and
so
so
my
thought
was
that
that,
because
that
doesn't
reduce
the
net
amount
of
money,
that's
available
to
spend
this
really
isn't
a
competing
idea.
It's
it's
something
that
helps
us.
Give
get
more
flexibility
in
how
we
spend
the
money,
and
so
I
was
hoping
to
think
of
it
as
as
just
a
yes.
F
A
A
D
H
Yeah
that
well
that's
what
I
had.
I
think
I
I
had
mentioned
this
in
our
first
meeting
to
put
it
on
the
list,
and
it
was
so
that
say
the
existing
proposal
would
serve
people
at
50
or
60
percent
of
ami,
and
if
we
can
put
some
funding
in
to
buy
it
down,
so
it
could
serve
people
at
30
percent
of
ami.
So
it
doesn't
exactly
free
up
money
in
in
that
way.
B
Yeah,
that
was
my
understanding
as
well
as
far
as
increasing
affordability
and
they're.
Also,
I
think,
on
some
of
these
pipeline
projects,
they're
not
all
necessarily
fully
funded.
I
mean
some
are
further
down
the
pipeline
than
others,
so
I
think
that
there
are
gaps
in
funding
for
some
of
them
just
at
the
most
basic
level
of
getting
the
project
to
move
forward.
A
A
So
do
we
want
to
have
a
little
conversation
about
that
first
and
see
if
there's
people
interested
and
if
I
guess,
if
there's
anyone
who
feels
really
strongly
like
that
is
not
something
we
should
be
pursuing,
let
us
know
so
either.
Yes,
this
is
a
great
idea,
and
yes,
I
want
to
be
on
that
team
or,
if
you
feel
otherwise
and
claire
did
you
want
to
say
something
or
is
your
hand
still
up
no.
H
I
did
want
to
say
something:
I
I
think
we
should
talk
about
whether
home
ownership
belongs
in
the
same
bucket
as
rental,
because
of
the
just
the
different
ways
in
which
funds
are
invested
in
the
different
challenges.
I
I
I
would
say
they
should
not
be
in
the
same
bucket,
because
I
think
they're
they're
just
different
challenges.
M
I
agree,
and
moreover
I
would
add
that
that's
a
lot
to
put
in
one
bucket,
like
by
having
only
those
kind
of
two
very
large
buckets,
we're
going
to
have
really
large
groups
talking
about
it.
And
so
I'm
just
concerned
that
it
might
not
be
as
efficient
and
effective
as
having
smaller
groups
on
smaller
topics
where
we
can
really
dig
into
getting
a
plan
together.
A
So
what
we
could
do
is
say
we
have
two
buckets
right
now
that
we've
identified
that
we
for
sure
want
to
move
forward
on,
and
one
is
basically
home
ownership,
increasing
home
ownership,
accessibility
and
availability
or,
however,
home
ownership
will
look,
and
then
there
is
helping
with
rental
assistance,
and
I
guess
the
question
I
have
is:
would
providing
short-term
housing
for
the
homeless
and
be
included
in
that,
and
if
so,
those
are
two
pretty
big
buckets
as
well.
That
could
encompass
a
lot
of
the
different
things.
We've
talked
about
and
paul
jump
in.
B
I
would
just
I
think
what
you
raised
there.
Karen
brings
up
the
question
of
maybe
rental
assistance
isn't
the
bucket?
It's
more.
Is
it
you
know
housing
stability,
preventing
homelessness.
What
you
know
eviction
prevent
whatever
I
think
it's
maybe
a
speaks
to
a
larger
picture
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
N
I
would
advocate
for
homelessness
to
be
its
own
category.
I
think
it's
a
different
set
of
problems
again.
I
do
think
that
there's
a
crossover
with
the
health
group
as
well
there,
so
I
think
it's
worth
in
small
groups
talking
about
how
the
wraparound
services
in
a
facility
have
worked
in
other
cities
is
a
is
enough
to
chew
off.
For
that.
M
I
think
that
there's
also
two
categories
that
we're
talking
about
here
beyond,
like
home
ownership
rental.
I
think
there's
also
the
development
of
new
units
right,
which
I
think
we've
heard
multiple
times.
Multiple
people
said
that
that's
a
priority
and
then
there's
other
housing
services
right,
so
that
are
just
as
important
right
things
like
eviction,
prevention
and
wrap-around
services
for
homeless,
and
you
know
sort
of
the
services
component
and
I
think
that
that
could
easily
be
separated
out
even
within
home
ownership.
G
A
So
I'm
I'm
getting
a
little
concerned
that
we
have
just
a
little
over
a
half
hour
to
try
to
figure
out
what
are
these
three
to
five
areas,
we're
going
to
focus
on
and
breaking
them
into
groups
of
who
will
be
doing
the
research
working
on
these
in
the
next
two
weeks?
So
if,
if
anne
marie,
do
you
have
something
to
say
that
will
help
that
move
forward?.
C
No,
unfortunately,
what
I
have
to
say,
I
think,
complicates
things
what
what
one
of
the
things
as
you're
talking
about
housing
development.
You
know
the
regulatory
framework
and
the
permitting
planning
entitlement
process
in
some
communities
is
harder
than
others
and
also
the
regulatory
framework
in
those
communities.
And
I'm
wondering
if
there
needs
to
be
a
group
looking
at
some
sort
of
streamlining
in
the
regulatory
arena,
to
incentivize
local
governments,
to
build
more
housing
through
a
streamlined
regulatory
process
of
some
kind.
And
maybe
that's
another
bucket
or
group.
A
C
I
I
I
That
sort
of
thing
the
second
bucket
feels
like
home
ownership
and
the
third
bucket
to
me,
feels
like
regional
capacity
to
stand
up
some
of
the
programs
like
or
or
increase
the
the
capacity
and
impact
of
eviction,
prevention,
inclusionary
housing
and
the
infrastructure
for
ownership
and
then
under
under
the
second
bucket
of
home
ownership.
I
I
think
that
manufactured
housing
infrastructure
for
resident
owned
communities
could
also
potentially
go
underneath
that.
I
A
A
A
B
J
A
J
A
Okay,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
we
want
to
do
this.
One
thing
I
thought
of
is
people
could
put
their
names
in
the
chats
and
say
which
one
they
want
to
belong
to.
So
again,
it's
the
land
acquisition
pipeline
projects
with
supporting
projects,
it's
the
home
ownership,
which
I'm
not
exactly
sure,
but
how
that's
different,
but
it
it,
but
it's
home
ownership.
G
G
Is
sorry
to
interrupt,
but
I
think
that
an
easier
way
maybe
to
create
like
a
word
document
and
share
the
link
and
you
know,
write
down
the
form.
Oh
and
then
you
can
just
like
have
people
add
their
name.
So
that
way
you
you
have
an
idea
of
who's
in
which
group.
If
there's
too
many
in
one
group
you
can
people
can
move
themselves
to
another
group,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
create
one
and
share
my
screen,
but
you
can
also.
A
Do
it
you
know
that
would
be,
that
would
be
great
and
if
you're
willing
to
do
that,
and
and
and
while
you're
doing
that
it
might
be
nice.
If
we
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
home
ownership,
we
we've
already
said
that
the
manufactured
or
mobile
home
parks
would
fit
under
that.
What
else
do
we
see
fitting
under
that.
F
No,
but
just
a
a
question
for
clarification,
I
think
if
I,
if
I
read
the
survey
results
right,
one
of
the
one
of
the
bigger
priorities
was
purchase
of
rental
housing
and
I'm
not
seeing
how
that
would
fit
into
any
of
the
existing
updates.
Yet,
and
I
was
curious
if
the
thought
of
those
focus
is
that
that
would
happen.
A
That's
a
great
question:
what
I
heard
kurt
say
is
that
would
fall
into
the
first
one,
so
it's
land
acquisition
projects
in
the
pipeline
and
it
would
create
rental
and
and
home
ownership.
I
think,
although
maybe
it's
just
rental
trying
to
focus
on
that
and
then
we've
got
the
separate
one
for
home
ownership,
which
would
be
the
mobile
home
parks
and
please
jump
in
and
claire
if
you've
got
some
more
clarity
around
that.
H
Well,
I
so
you
are
asking
for
to
to
put
some
flesh
on
the
bones
about
homeownership,
in
addition
to
manufactured
housing
parks,
and
I
would
see
this
the
the
program
that
that
curt
has
described
of
purchasing
attached
homes,
whether
they're
town
homes,
condos,
whatever
they
are,
and
selling
them
below
market.
So
I
would
see
that
in
the
home
ownership
bucket,
I
would
also
see,
depending
on
what
stepco
might
have
in
the
works
or
habitat.
H
You
know
any
other
existing
program
that
works
on
home
ownership.
Investing
in
that,
so
I
think
there
are.
There
are
opportunities
there.
I
think
I
think
we
should
be
looking
beyond
the
mobile
home
parks
for
that,
and-
and
I
did-
I
did
wonder
whether
legal
assistance
belongs
well.
Kurt
has
put
that
together
with
just
creating
the
in
for
infrastructure
or
the
administrative
support
for
inclusion,
housing,
ordinances
and
homeownership
programs
and
legal
assistance
feels
to
me.
H
You
know
more
like
it's
just
an
investment
of
money
into
an
organization
and
it
can
be
in
eviction
prevention.
It
could
be
around
other.
You
know
consumer
debt
problems
that
people
accrue
because
they're
trying
to
pay
rent
the
landlord
always
eats
first
sorts
of
things.
I
it
it
just
doesn't
feel
to
me
like
it
belongs
in
with
the
other
regional
issues,
I
mean,
I
think
the
service
has
to
be
regional.
C
C
We
see
landlords
doing
things
to
force
renters
to
break
their
lease,
create
uninhabitable
units
so
that
they
can
terminate
the
lease
and
charge
more
and
those
are
all
rental
things
that
I
think
are
regional
and
are
about
keeping
people
housed.
So
I
would,
I
would
support
cart
and
thinking
that
this
is
part
of
the
infrastructure.
Regionally.
That
I
think,
is
important
and-
and
I
actually
think
can
save
us
lots
of
money
at
you
know
in
the
long
run,
if
we
can
help
people
with
the
legal
assistance.
B
No,
no,
not
at
all.
I
think
our
discussion
has
been
very
productive
and
thank
everybody
for
the
ideas
that
we
have.
I
I
think
this
is
a
a
step
forward
for
us
to
establish
these
buckets
the
and
if
we
want
to
kind
of
sign
up
and
and
get
moving
on,
putting
together
some
very
specific
ideas,
I
think
that
maybe
we
can
try
to
do
some
more
non-meeting
communication
over
the
next
two
weeks.
Our
next
meeting
is
two
weeks
from
today,
and
then
you
know
we
come
to
that
final
meeting
with
some
very
concrete
ideas.
B
B
So
there's
there's,
obviously
the
balance
of
funding
that
would
be
available
for
any
idea.
I
don't
we're
not
we're
not
restricted
to
just
one
idea
here.
I
don't
think
so
it's
what
can
we
make
within
the
allotted
money?
What
can
we
make?
Work
and
then
also
just
other
areas
of
balance,
balancing
between
different
populations.
That
would
be
better.
That
would
benefit
from
our
different
ideas
or
balancing
for
any
any
real
equity
standpoint,
and
then
also,
I
think,
balance
in
terms
of
time.
B
B
And
I
would
just
throw
out
there
right
now
I
mean
we
haven't
really
talked
specifically
about
it.
We've
alluded
to
it
a
couple
of
times,
but
does
anybody
have
a
real
moonshot
idea
here
that
we
want
to
to
put
to
paper
at
this
point
you
know
granted
we
any
other
groups
get,
could
decide
to
do
that
within
their
topic
area,
but
I
think
maybe
we
take
a
few
minutes
to
see.
Are
there
any
really
bold,
big
ideas
in
our
group.
B
N
C
And
we
don't
like
to
talk
about
them,
and
we
don't
like
to
talk
about
how
to
you
know,
keep
them
safe
in
bad
weather.
How
to
give
them
showers.
You
know
whatever
it
might
be
and
that
that
really
difficult
population
tends
to
get
ignored
in
the
housing
first
or
shelter
first
model,
and
I
wondered
what
thoughts
you
might
have
on
that.
N
N
Next
to
the
shelter
we
already
have
the
shelter
that
doesn't
let
you
in,
if
you
have
alcohol
in
your
breath,
there's
the
shelter
that
does,
but
the
idea
that
there
are
people
ready
to
be
case
managed
out
of
this
situation
and
I
think,
speaking
to
the
homeless,
families
and
especially,
I
think
people
coming
out
of
domestic
abuse
and
opening
that
capacity.
I
just
feel
like
if
we
did
the
moonshot
of
a
building
that
was
your
own
studio,
much
like
assisted
living
for
elderly,
but
it
was
for
homeless.
N
A
F
But
the
bigger
idea
behind
kind
of
an
aggressive
licensing
system
is
just
to
rejigger
the
incentives
so
that
the
that
anybody
who's
who's
a
landlord
is
incentivized
to
provide
stable
housing
to
whoever
rents
their
units
from
them,
and
so
it
they
make
more
profit
from
providing
stable
housing
than
they
do
for
getting
people
out
of
of
their
houses.
If
people
elsewhere
can
afford
to
to
come
into
those
same
units,
and
so
so
that
would,
I
think,
have
an
immense
effect
on
on
stability.
A
K
I'm
thinking
transformational
in
that
there
is,
is
there
no
other
funding
source
that
works
for
this,
and
currently
that
is
something
that
would
be
challenging
to
fund.
Otherwise,
I
also
think
a
moonshot
is
affordable,
assisted
living
and
unhoused
options
for
those
that
are
difficult
to
house,
meaning
those
that
have
records
with
meth
use.
Are
they
can't
get
into
housing
authority,
properties
for
or
head
funded
properties?
K
It's
really
hard
to
house
those
folks
and
they're,
often
chronic
rotating
in
and
out
of
you
know
either
subsidized
housing
or
not,
and
I
think
that
coming
up
with
a
model
either
just
acquiring
somewhere
acquiring
property
converting
and
then
coming
up
with
a
model
that
can
be
replicated
in
the
future.
This
is
the
opportunity
to
experiment
to
with
funding
sources
that
do
not
exist
for
this
purpose
and
that
could
be
replicated
going
forward.
O
I
Thank
you
just
want
to
make
one
clarification:
the
the
the
the
homeless
shelters
in
boulder
county-
and
I
know
specifically
in
boulder
they
don't
they
don't
restrict
individuals
who
are
high
or
on
drugs
or
anything
from
from
receiving
shelter.
It's
more
about
behavior
and
they're
not
allowed
to
use
in
the
while
they're
in
the
shelter,
but
it
doesn't
restrict
people
from
accessing
the
shelter
just
want
to
clarify
that
and
then
can.
N
I
Okay,
yeah:
that's
it's
pretty
unusual
for
a
shelter
to
have
those
requirements.
The
the
second
thing
is
around
homelessness.
I,
and
I
know
mental
health
is
a
challenge,
but
what
we
find
is
that
people
aren't
successful
in
receiving
mental
health
services
or
drug
abuse
services
unless
they
get
housed
first,
and
I
think
that's
why
the.
A
A
We
have
just
a
little
over
10
minutes
to
talk
about
next
steps,
and
so
we
have
this
interactive
document.
Thank
you,
anna
for
getting
that
started
for
us.
People
are
putting
their
names
on
the
list.
How
do
folks
want
to
follow
up
with
each
other?
I'm
not
sure
how
we
want
to
do
that
and
I'm
open
to
some
thoughts
here
and
paul.
Maybe
you
have
some
ideas.
B
B
A
Maybe
what
we
could
do
is
send
out
the
list
in
the
next
24
hours
and
then
people
can
bold
if
they
are
step
up.
If
they'd
like
to
lead
a
group
which
really
would
just
mean
you
know
emailing,
folks
and
kind
of
handling,
when
you
know
when
you
meet
and
that
sort
of
thing
I
see
kurtz
offering
to
lead
with
the
regional
capacity
mary
lee
said
she
would
lead
with
the
homelessness
group.
A
H
Yeah
mine
is
a
new
raised
hand.
I
feel
like
we're
spreading
ourselves
too
thin
here.
I'm
just
worried
with
four
buckets
and
we've
got
basically
three
people
in
each
that's
a
lot
of
well,
it's
it's.
It's
a
lot
for
each
for
three
people
to
take
on.
It's
also
not
a
lot
of
people
to
to
help
bring
ideas
together.
H
N
I
I
am
gonna
say
be
the
devil's
advocate
and
say
three
people
can
create
a
draft
that
people
can
pick
apart.
You
know
well
researched
and,
I
think
quicker.
Then
a
larger
group
of
people
can
do
it.
So
I
think
if
we
have,
you
know
12
people
that
can
we
have
four
proposals,
reports
whatever
I
think
so,
and
then
we
can
go
from
there
and
I
I'm
you
know
I'm
in
the
same
boat
as
anna
in
terms
of
spring
break.
But
for
me
it
means
I
have
capacity.
L
N
N
I
mean
the
way
I
was
envisioning
it.
It's
very
much
a
different
thing.
It
is
about
the
population
for
the
reasons
that
people
have
made
concerns
about.
How
do
we
even
get
this
population
of
people
housed
with
their
issues?
I
think
that
if
it
was
anything
it's
going
to
go
over
under
like
the
health
subgroup
at
some
point,
so
I
just
think
that
it
can
be
under
that,
but
I
think
it's
a
whole
separate
issue
about
where
our
wraparound
housing
wrap-around
services
in
actual
housing
for
people
who
were
formally
sheltered.
Where
is
that
happening?
N
B
N
H
H
Please
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
that
we
want
to
we,
we
really
don't
want
to
invest
a
lot
of
money
in
shelter
that
does
not
lead
to
exiting
homelessness,
and
so
anything
that
would
you
know,
be
recommended
in
that
homelessness.
Category
should
be
recommended
with
that
in
mind
that
it
needs
to
be
something
that
that
leads
to
exiting
homelessness
and
and
not
just
providing
shelter.
N
And
I
know
we
don't
have
any
more
time,
but
I
would
also
say
if
we
go
way
way
way
back.
Who
was
the
most
impacted
when
you
had
to
shelter
at
home?
Who
was
the
most
impacted
and
when
the
shelters
had
to
close
down
because
of
covet?
Who
was
the
most
impacted?
So
I
do
think
there's
a
strong.
You
know
appeal
there
to
this.
You
know
identified
group.
I
I
do
I'll
just
be
real
quick,
so
it
might
be
helpful
and
I
can
send
this
to
the
the
homeless
team.
So
there
there
has
been
a
proposal.
That's
been
put
together
for
arpa
funds
for
the
city
of
boulder.
That
provides
what
we
we
have
seen
as
a
a
capacity
need,
which
is
increased,
wrap-around
services
and
support
for
those
who
have
become
housed
who
were
previously
homeless
and
ensuring
that
they
remain
successfully
housed,
and
you
know,
receive
the
services
they
need
to
to
do
that.