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From YouTube: Local Minimum Wage discussion
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Local Minimum Wage discussion. Recorded Sept. 21, 2022
A
A
Well
good
evening
and
welcome
to
a
conversation
regarding
local
minimum
wage.
Thank
you
all
for
attending.
My
name
is
Devin
schaff
I'm,
a
council
member
with
the
city
and
county
of
Broomfield
I'm,
also
part
of
the
boulder
Consortium
Boulder
County
Consortium
of
cities.
Thank
you
to
all
for
your
attendance
tonight.
A
That
has
graciously
been
part
of
this
conversation
as
well,
but
those
those
communities
are
Boulder
County
city
of
Boulder,
town
of
Erie,
town
of
Jamestown,
city
of
Lafayette,
city
of
Longmont,
city
of
Louisville,
town
of
lions,
town
of
Netherlands,
town
of
Superior,
and
those
are
the
communities
that
continue
to
support
this
conversation
and
continue
to
do
great
things
in
the
Boulder
Boulder
County
Community,
a
big
thank
you
to
Boulder
County
staff
for
your
technical
support
to
host
this
presentation
tonight.
Thank
you
to
the
presenters
for
your
time
tonight.
A
As
well
this,
this
is
a
long
time
coming.
In
order
to
have
this
conversation,
you
all
have
graciously
been
a
part
of
tonight's
conversation
and
and
will
continue
to
support
us.
So
thank
you
for
that
logistics.
For
tonight
we
will
have
three
presentations
lasting
about
one
hour
in
total.
We
will
then
have
about
30
minutes
for
a
question
and
answer
portion
for
that
question
and
answer
portion.
You
will
type
your
questions
into
the
Q,
a
section
within
Zoom.
We
will
try
to
get
as
many.
A
We
will
try
to
get
us
to
as
many
questions
as
we
can
tonight.
We
will
keep
a
list
of
all
the
questions
that
are
submitted
and
continue
to
answer
these
in
the
future.
The
recording
of
the
presentations
tonight,
along
with
an
FAQ,
will
be
available
in
the
future
for
reference.
We
are
so
excited
to
have
you
joining
us
for
the
presentations
tonight
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
the
conversations
in
the
months
ahead
now.
I
would
like
to
introduce
to
you
Lauren
folkarts
city
council,
member
with
the
city
of
Boulder,.
B
C
Thank
you,
council,
member
and
good
evening
to
everyone.
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
on
behalf
of
the
county
and
commissioner
lochimi
in
particular,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
Consortium
of
cities?
She
sends
her
regrets
unable
to
make
the
meeting
this
evening,
but
the
Consortium
has
been
and
continues
to
be,
a
pivotal
collaboration
forum
for
the
cities
and
towns
across
Boulder
County,
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
play
that
role
in
this
context
of
a
local
wage
discussion.
C
This
topic
is
just
one
example
of
the
convening
and
collaboration
that
happens
across
the
Boulder
County
Community
with
the
jurisdictions,
and
we
look
forward
to
learning
and
working
together
with
everyone,
as
this
conversation
moves
forward.
So
again,
commissioner
Loch
I
mean
sends
it
regrets,
but
looks
forward
to
engaging
with
this
effort
as
we
move
forward
thanks.
B
Thanks
Mark,
so
I
think
it's
time
to
get
it
started.
Our
first
presenter
is
Scott
Moss
he's
the
director
of
the
division
of
labor
labor
standards
and
statistics
for
the
Colorado
department
of
labor
and
employment.
This
is
the
department
that
provides
the
information
and
tools
that
are
helping.
Colorado
businesses
and
workers
remain
competitive.
They
promote
a
thriving
employment
environment,
with
opportunities
for
every
Coloradan
to
prosper
as
director
of
Labor
and
standards.
Scott
interprets
investigates
and
issues
guidance
and
enforces
labor
laws.
D
Thanks
so
much
Lori
appreciate
the
gracious
introduction
and
thanks
for
having
me
here,
everyone
I
appreciate
the
chance
to
talk
to
you
about
this
by
the
way,
a
background
Lauren
thanks
for
the
job
explaining
what
we
do
for
a
living
at
the
Department
of
Labor
and
my
agency.
The
division
of
labor
standards
and
statistics
generally
I'll
note
that,
as
to
local
government
minimum
wages,
we
have
no
rooting
interest
risk
in
any
particular
policy
being
enacted
by
any
City
County
Town
other
local
governments.
Our
interest
is
in
helping
things
go
smoothly.
D
So
that's
why,
as
we
understood
there
to
be
a
ramp
of
interest
in
this
topic,
we
pumped
out
a
fact
sheet
in
2019,
as
the
law
passed
and
as
more
activity
was
being
undertaken.
This
year.
Just
last
week,
we
finalized
and
on
Monday,
published
an
updated,
much
more
detailed
fact
sheet
answering
what
we
understood
to
be
common
questions,
concerns
bye
and
by
those
who
work
with
local
governments
on
the
employer,
side,
the
employee
side
and
other
stakeholders.
D
That's
passed
as
we've
done
with
Denver
more
on
how
co-administration
and
enforcement
works
as
I
get
going
to
start
with.
I
wanted
to
share
some
resources
from
my
agency
and
plopping
these
into
the
chat
window
here
and
putting
in
Three
Links.
You
just
want
to
make
sure
I
send
them
to
you
all
attendees,
okay,
the
first
link
I,
send
you
is
the
link
to
our
fact
sheet.
I'm,
also
going
to
put
this
on
the
screen
narrating
a
bit
as
I
explained
some
of
that
local
government
wages
how
they
work.
D
The
first
link
is
the
direct
link
to
our
fact
sheet.
The
second
link
is
easier
to
type,
but
remember
it's
just
the
page
that
has
all
of
our
fact
sheets.
It's
cdlead.colorado.gov,
infos,
high-end,
fos
or
even
easier
to
remember
is
Colorado
labor
law.gov.
If
you
remember
anything
else,
colorado.gov
is
our
landing
page
from
there.
D
Ed,
can
you
all
see
the
fact
sheet
on
the
screen
thanks
and
feel
free
to
flop
into
the
chat,
if
there's
any
readability
issues,
but
we
just
published
this
on
our
webpage.
Just
three
pages,
we
tried
to
summarize
the
law
on
how
local
government
wages
work.
I
know
that
many
of
you
are
knee
deep
into
this.
So
apologies.
If
some
of
you
already
know
everything
we
would
have
written
on
this,
but
I
wanted
to
hit
some
key
high
points
and
also
answer
any
questions.
D
The
big
question
is:
what
can
a
local
minimum
wage
be
and
at
the
risk
of
stating
the
obvious,
the
local
Min
wage
can
exceed
the
state
and
federal
minimum
wages,
otherwise,
there'd
be
no
need
to
consider
adopting
them
to
clarify
the
current
Colorado
minimum
wage.
The
almost
the
no
I
imagine
this
year
and
next
year
is
perhaps
being
a
little
less
known
this
year,
it's
12
56
next
year,
it's
scheduled
to
be
13.65..
D
That's
that
we
published
in
proposed
rules
then
adopted
it's
a
simple
inflationary
calculation
that
we
have
to
do
based
on
established
practice
and
how
we
apply
inflation
rates
to
Colorado.
So
it's
going
to
be
1365
next
year
that
sets
the
Baseline
for
any
local
government
to
adopt
a
wage
either
1256
or
the
1365.,
specifically
in
86
101
sub,
three,
the
one
of
the
main
statutes
that
sets
the
details
of
both
the
government
wages.
D
It
provides
that
the
local
government
can
adopt
whatever
minimum
wage
it
wants,
but
not
more
than
15
above
last
year's
minimum
wage.
So
for
a
city,
accounting,
town,
a
municipality
that
doesn't
have
a
minimum
wage
now
in
2022,
the
most
they
can
adopt.
Next
year
the
highest
they
can
adopt
next
year
is
1444..
D
That's
15
above
this
year's
Colorado
minimum.
So
you
can
go
up
15
a
year
until
you
reach
whatever
level
you
want
to,
and
then
you
can
keep
it
stagnant
inflation
adjusted
wherever
you
want.
The
15
is
the
maximum
adjustment.
So
if
a
municipality
wants
to
get
to
15
bucks
an
hour
18
bucks
an
hour
something
else,
it
can
get
there
just
not
in
one
year,
based
on
current
rates.
It'll
just
take
a
multi-step
process.
D
Much
like
how
Denver
wanted
to
get
above
15,
but
the
first
year
it
went
to
1285
the
max
they
could
go
to
and
then
to
1477,
then
1587.
and
now
they're
inflation
adjusted.
So
that's
the
gist
of
the
level
you
go
to
inflation
adjustment
can
be
anything
you
want
or
anything
at
all.
This
is
where
one
of
my
mantras
in
my
presentation
will
be
here
are
the
things
you
have
complete
policy
discretion
about.
Here
are
the
things
you
have
to
recant
to
and
hear
the
things
where
you
have
some
discussion.
D
There
is
no
mandate
to
inflation,
adjust
at
any
level
or
at
all
the
state.
Minimum
wage
Denver
minimum
wage
and
that
of
most
States
is
inflation,
adjusted
the
federal
minimum
wage
is
not
inflation,
adjusted.
That's
why
it's
seven
dollars
and
25
cents
and
has
been
there
for
almost
20
years,
so
the
Consumer
Price
Index
I
linked
the
page.
We
use
to
get
that
figure.
D
The
state
of
Colorado,
my
agency
or
any
other
does
not
calculate
inflation
or
Consumer
Price
Index
we
use
federal
data.
The
feds
are
the
ones
you
calculated.
There
are
two
different
cpis
that
could
be
used.
Denver
use
one.
The
state
use
another
they're
extremely
similar,
there's
a
slight
percentage
difference
this
year,
but
I
personally
looked
at
the
past
20
years
of
data,
one
isn't
systematically
higher
than
the
other,
but
they
come
to
at
the
state
level
8.6
this
year,
and
we
gave
an
example
that
a
city
could
do
what
it
wants.
D
They
could
choose
the
CPI,
it
could
juice
something
different,
but
I
gave
an
example.
If
a
city
wanted
to
it
could
apply
a
CPI
with
a
minimum
of
two
and
a
maximum
six,
perhaps
to
smooth
out
the
edges
to
give
more
predictability.
So
workers
know
they'll
always
get
at
least
two
percent,
even
if
it's
one
point
something
as
it
was
a
couple
years
ago,
but
then
businesses
get
some
certainty
with
a
maximum
of
six.
D
So
if
you
get
a
year
like
this
year
with
eight
point,
something
there's
a
cap,
so
you
could
do
something
like
this
again.
No
rooting
interest
in
the
state
of
Colorado
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
sense
of
how
there
could
be
options
that
could
be
done
depending
on
your
policy
preferences,
tip
credits,
Hot
Topic,
always
this
is
one
where
there
really
isn't
policy
discretion
here
for
the
state
or
localities,
because
the
state
constitution
sets
the
minimum
wage
and
the
tip
credit
it's.
D
D
With
a
couple
caveats,
which
is
that
the
tip
offset
applies
only
to
Employers
in
local
government
law,
that
repair
offer
for
sale,
food
or
beverages
for
consumption
bars,
restaurants,
Etc
and
it's
only
those
regularly
received
tips
and
only
where
state
law
allows
you
to
fit
credit.
There
are
a
couple
strictures
in
state
law.
We
hyperlink
and
highly
recommend
you
read
another
fact
sheet
of
ours
info
number
three
and
have
tips
and
tip
credits,
work
under
Colorado
law,
for
example.
D
If
the
worker
doesn't
get
enough
in
a
given
week,
then
the
employers
to
make
up
the
rest
of
the
minimum
wage
and
if
tips
are
unlawfully
shared
among
non-tip
workers,
then
that
negates
the
tip
credit
entirely.
These
are
things
that
businesses
know
how
to
navigate,
hopefully
under
existing
state
law.
So
the
good
news
for
local
governments
is
that
the
good
and
bad
news
is
that
you
have
no
policy
discretion
on
tip
credit,
any
more
than
my
agency
does
in
writing
rules.
D
But
the
good
news
is
that
the
rules
you'll
have
to
apply
on
tips
are
well
established.
We
have
updated
our
fact
sheets
on
this
on
an
ongoing
basis,
and
these
are
known
rules,
both
the
amount
and
the
circumstances
where
tips
are
permissible,
tip
credits,
who's
discovered
by
minimum
wage.
This
is
an
interesting
one.
The
state
law
that
lets
local
governments
have
minimum
wages
says
the
local
minimum
wage
shall
cover
all
adult
workers
and
emancipated
miners
with
a
minimal
threshold.
They
have
to
work
four
hours
in
your
jurisdiction
to
be
covered.
D
The
Exceptions.
There
are
two
main
exceptions.
One
is
that
only
time
in
your
jurisdiction
is
covered
and
it
excludes
time
just
passing
through.
So
if
someone
bring
you
know,
Grand
Junction
is
driving
to
Fort
Morgan
and
goes
through
Denver,
that's
not
covered
unless
they
have
work
stops
within
Denver
unemancipated
minors.
Most
miners
vast
majority
are
a
big
exception.
D
They're
covered
by
the
state
minimum
wage
with
a
15
reduction,
but
there
is
absolute
discretion
as
we
read
the
state
law,
we
looked
it
over
carefully
that
local
government
minimum
wages
can
include
unemancipated
miners
can
give
them
a
15
reduction
or
not
or
not
include
them
at
all.
There
is
no
provision
requiring
or
mandating
how
they
are
treated
again.
The
only
mandate
is
that
a
local
government
wage
shall
cover
all
adult
employees
and
all
emancipated
miners.
So
miners,
you
have
complete
discretion.
D
If
you
choose
not
to
cover
minors,
the
state
minimum
wage
for
minors
would
applaud.
That's
the
state
minimum
minus
15
or
you
could
cover
them
with
a
15
reduction
or
any
other
percentage,
or
what
Denver
did
is
allowing
the
15
reduction
only
for
those
in
the
city.
Certified
Youth,
Employment,
Program,
so
again,
total
discretion
there
as
the
how
to
adopt
wages.
Well,
before
enactment
there's
a
requirement
in
the
statute.
Look
over
this
text
to
consult
surrounding
local
governments
and
stakeholders.
D
We
put
in
the
footnote
a
list
of
people
who
must
be
consulted:
Chambers
of
Commerce
different
types
of
businesses,
workers,
unions,
Community
groups.
We
recommend
a
stakeholder
meeting
or
a
portion
of
a
city
council
or
County
board,
meeting
Etc
as
long
as
you
allow
I
think
ample
time
for
discussion
that
you
know
counts
as
consultation
with
real
exchange.
D
The
idea
is
it's
one
jurisdictional,
enactment,
essentially,
enforcement
I
know
is
a
common
question.
When
Denver
enacted
minimum
wage,
they
created
Denver
labor
a
unit
of
the
auditor's
office,
which
is
doing
excellent
work
in
enforcement
of
the
Denver
minimum
wage.
But
we've
seen
different
things
in
different
states
where
some
municipalities
don't
set
up
an
enforcement
mechanism,
largely
cities
that
are
in
as
big
as
say,
Denver
and
here
under
the
state
law
in
861013b,
it's
Cleveland
local
government
can
enforce
its
own
minimum
wage.
We
can
set
up
a
unit
like
Denver
labor.
D
It
can,
alternatively
or
additionally
Grant
the
private
right
to
sue
to
workers
to
agree
Etc,
but
a
local
government
is
not
required
to
enforce.
They
can
just
set
a
wage
and
do
essentially
nothing
else.
Just
make
clear
is
covered.
What
the
amount
is,
how
it's
adjusted
if
at
all,
because
enforcement
could
be
just
in
the
state,
and
this
is
how
it
works
in
the
state
of
Washington,
where
Seattle
has
a
labor
enforcement
unit.
D
Last
I
checked
a
few
years
ago,
but
other
cities
in
Washington
at
least
one-
has
a
local
government
wage
minimum
but
does
not
have
its
own
mini
labor
departments.
There
are
a
couple
reasons
for
that.
First
is
that
if
eight
jurisdictions
in
Colorado
all
had
many
labor
departments
investigating
what
happens
if
one
Statewide
employer
is
under
investigation
for
a
certain
wage
violation,
there
could
be
different
rulings
by
different
jurisdictions.
D
If
that
happens,
people
don't
manage
we'll
make
it
work,
we'll
all
have
to
share
information
and
make
sure
that
the
first
building
is
seen
by
others
to
coordinate,
but
I
want
to
stress
that
that
could
be
avoided
by
just
having
enforcement,
be
if
a
city
or
county
chooses
not
to
set
up
an
enforcement
unit.
That's
fine,
because
if
a
city,
for
example,
does
nothing
other
than
say
the
minimum
wage
is
14
bucks
next
year.
D
Well,
what
that
means
is
that,
if
someone's
not
paid
the
14
minimum
wage,
they
can
file
a
complaint
from
their
state
law,
because
state
law
allows
State
complaints
by
employers
that
claim
entitlement
to
local
wages.
Yes,
here's
why?
If
your
owed
15
bucks
an
hour,
is
a
working
under
a
contract,
Union
CBA
or
an
offer
letter
oral
course
of
dealings,
and
you
don't
get
paid
that
15
bucks.
You
can
file
a
claim
at
my
division.
We
investigate
and
we
will
either
way
for
employers,
employees
and,
of
course,
pouring
against
you
in
court.
D
If
you're
entitled
to
15
bucks-
and
you
don't
get
it-
you
have
unpaid
wages.
Well,
that's
true
whether
the
15
bucks
is
Promised
by
a
contract
or
required
by
a
CBA
or
is
required
by
a
local
law.
If
you're
owed
15
bucks-
and
you
don't
get
it-
you
have
unpaid
wages
under
state
law,
you
can
file
a
claim,
it
can
be
under
state
law,
and
we
include
some
citations
to
explain
that.
That's
in
state
regulations
and
statute,
so
there's
no
need
for
an
enforcement
unit.
D
We
would
recommend
getting
into
Denver
to
talk
about
how
they
do
it,
and
we
just
want
to
stress
that
it
is
totally
the
option
of
the
local
government
whether
to
do
enforcement
or
not.
Nor
does
job
all
have
to
list
remedies,
because
the
state
wage
act
lists.
The
members
for
wage
violations
well
have
an
answer
more
about
that.
If
needed,
reporting
I
want
to
stress
two
things.
D
One
is
that
please
tell
us
if
you
enact
something,
because
we
have
a
duty
to
report
it
through
the
legislature
and
to
report
publicly
and
track
these
wages
so
inform
us.
The
contact
information
is
on
this
fact
sheet,
but
you
all
have
my
information.
My
personal
contact
information
there
should
I
will
make
sure
to
share
it
because
by
law
we
have
to
update
Colorado's
local
minimum
wage
report
in
any
year
in
which
a
local
minimum
wage
was
adopted
by
July
1st,
and
we
have
to
put
in
two
kinds
of
data.
D
We
just
claim
to
go
back
three
years,
Statewide
in
Denver
the
jurisdiction
that
enacted
it
and
if
any
of
you
enact
something
we'll
have
another
column
or
four
columns
or
five
columns
or
whatever
it
is
listing,
what
each
one
is,
because
our
job
is
to
get
good
information
after
the
state
about
this,
and
when
we
have
information
like
this,
we
publish
it
on
our
web
page.
We
announce
it.
D
D
We
did
a
version
of
support
after
Denver
enacted
a
wage,
and
we
looked
at
what
happened
to
the
relevant
economic
statistics,
then
we're
enacted
their
minimum
wage
is
fascinating.
On
effective
January,
1st
2020.,
you
may
remember
that
coven
hit
us
in
mid-march
2020.,
so
it
was
a
bit
tricky
to
parse
out.
Okay,
there
were
stated
holders
people
weren't
working.
Of
course,
everybody's
unemployment
went
up
and
Denver
had
more
stay-at-home
orders
than
some.
D
So,
of
course,
their
Unemployment
went
up
if
there
were
government
orders
not
to
work
or
doing
what
people,
but
we
were
able
to
look
and
happy.
We
were
able
to
get
monthly
month
data,
so
we
got
pretty
good
data
on
what
happened
in
Denver
in
January
and
February
2020
relative
to
the
rest
of
the
state.
That
is
what
happened
when
Denver
adopted
a
minimum
wage
and.
C
D
Been
two
months
have
been
there
and
we
found
some
really
interesting
findings.
This
is
just
in
our
local
minimum
wage
report,
which
is
linked.
We
ran
a
lot
of
Statistics
Denver
wages
Rose
in
those
two
months,
but,
more
importantly,
they
Rose
more
than
comparable
jurisdictions,
other
larger
cities
and
the
state
after
they
adopted
a
wage
Denver's
wages
Rose
by
12.3
more
than
the
rest
of
the
states.
Now
that
can
make
sense
if
you're
mandating
a
higher
wage
wages
would
go
up.
We
also
found
that
unemployment
remained
lower
than
compared
to
jurisdictions.
D
So
those
are
some
really
interesting
findings
we
had
there,
your
mileage
may
vary,
every
city
is
different,
but
that
was
our
report
as
mandated
by
the
legislature
and
what
happened
to
the
economic
state.
So
that's
about
just
I.
Would
say:
contact
us
with
any
questions
after
I'm
done
talking
about
popping
my
personal
kind
of
information
as
well
as
Eric
Yogi,
our
Outreach
manager,
the
division
who's
here
in
attendance,
Eric
and
I
send
an
email
to
both
Eric
and
I.
D
If
you
have
any
questions
and
we'll
happily
get
you
an
answer,
review
this
as
a
very
important
support,
we
can
provide
for
the
state
to
answer
any
questions
or
get
you
any
information
needed,
whether
it's
about
how
tip
credit
works,
or
can
you
elaborate
more
on
enforcement
being
optional
or
any
of
these
things.
So
with
that
all
thank
you
all
for
having
me
here.
Oh
yes,
I'll
I
got
a
question
I'll
reset.
Then
we
reset
the
chat.
D
A
That
is
correct.
Thank
you,
Scott
for
your
presentation
tonight
and
thanks
for
putting
that
link
back
in
the
chat
box.
Hopefully
our
attendees
can
now
see
that
and
thanks
for
including
your
contact
information
as
well.
This
is
also
a
reminder.
We
have
been
getting
some
questions
you
all
it's
got.
You
provided
a
lot
of
great
information,
I
think
that's
generating
some
questions.
A
So,
if
you
do
have
a
question,
please
put
that
there
in
the
Q
a
box
there
in
Zoom,
so
that
we
can
get
to
that
later
in
the
meeting
today.
Our
next
presenter
is
Charles
Brennan.
He
is
with
the
Colorado
Center
on
Law
and
policy
and
is
a
non
which
is
a
non-profit
based
in
Denver
Colorado,
the
organs.
The
organs
organization
stands
with
diverse
communities
across
Colorado
in
the
fight
against
poverty,
through
research
legislation
and
legal
advice,
advocacy
for
over
20
years.
A
Cclp's
efforts
have
improved
the
health
and
Financial
Security
of
hundreds
of
thousands
of
coloradoans.
We
are
widely
recognized
by
policy
policy
makers,
opinion
leaders
and
advocates
for
their
knowledge,
skill
and
Effectiveness
in
shaping
and
during
systemic
systemic
change.
In
Colorado
Charlie
Brennan
works
as
the
deputy
director
of
research
for
the
Colorado
Center
on
Law
and
policy.
A
In
this
role
he
works
to
shift
the
narrative
on
poverty
and
economic
security
in
Colorado
by
lifting
up
qualitative
and
quantitative
data
that
helps
policy
makers
and
Advocates
to
better
understand
the
economic
challenges
facing
low-income
Colorados
in
the
areas
of
food
income,
health
and
housing.
Cclp's,
research
and
Analysis
portfolio
includes
the
self-sufficiency
standard
for
Colorado,
a
comprehensive
measure
of
how
much
income
families
of
various
sizes
and
compositions
need
to
make
ends
meet
without
public
or
private
assistance.
A
Cclp
also
releases
the
state
of
work
in
Colorado,
a
Continuum
of
data
that
shows
how
Colorado's
economy
is
performing
for
workers
across
the
income
Spectrum
along
numerous
other
reports
and
issue.
Briefs
Charlie
also
helps
Advance
the
work
of
cclp's
Advocates
and
partners
as
they
seek
to
advance
a
race
equity
in
anti-poverty
agenda
through
Colorado
without
further
Ado
Charlie
brennepin.
E
Great
thank
you
Devin
for
that
introduction
and
thank
you
for
inviting
me
here
to
speak
to
you
all
today,
I'm
very
excited
to
share
some
of
the
the
most
recent
findings
from
our
self-sufficiency
standard
update
for
2022.
We
haven't
released
this
report
yet
publicly,
and
so
this
is
sort
of
a
first
look
at
a
lot
of
those
those
data
points
and
I'm
excited
to
to
dive
into
them
with
you
all
here
today
tonight
so
I'm,
just
waiting
for
my
slides
to
pop
up
great.
E
E
That
represents
sort
of
the
the
annual
income
need
and
then
from
that
we
can
derive
monthly
income
needs
as
well
as
hourly
income
needs.
So
if
we
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
we'll
see
what
that
looks
like
in
action
for
some
of
the
counties
in
the
area
in
the
region
of
the
North
Front
Range.
So
here
we
can
see
income
needs
as
estimated
by
the
self-sufficiency
standard
for
2022
for
a
three
adult
household.
That's
a
household,
at
least
in
this
case
that
comprises
of
two
adults
and
one
infant.
E
So
you
can
see
you
know
if
we're
going
by
the
official
poverty
measure.
That
measure
would
estimate
that
this
household
in
question
would
only
need
about
1
900
to
make
ends
meet.
But
when
we
look
at
sort
of
the
the
total
budget
needs
as
measured
by
the
self-sufficiency
standard,
we
can
see
that
you
know
those
actual
needs
are
are
substantially
larger
than
what
the
poverty
measure
would
estimate
them.
E
Being
one
of
the
the
the
neat
features
of
the
self-sufficiency
standard
is
that
because
the
estimates
are
County
based
and
really,
you
know
specific
in
terms
of
those
geographies,
we
can
really
capture
variations
in
the
cost
of
living,
even
across
a
small
region
like
these,
this
Five
County
region.
Here
on
the
slide,
however,
you
can
see
you
know,
even
though
there
are
some
variations
in
cost
of
living.
You
know,
relatively
speaking,
at
least
for
this
region
fairly.
E
You
know
if
you
dive
into
the
data
once
once
we
release
it
later
next
month.
You
know
there's
over
700
different
household
types
for
which
we've
developed
it
or
provided
a
self-sufficiency,
standard
estimate,
and
that's
for
each
of
Colorado's
64
counties.
So
you
know
a
range
of
information
and
data
to
look
at
there
in
terms
of
inconvenience
for
different
households.
Here,
we're
showing
different
hourly
income
needs,
as
estimated
by
the
standard
for
households
living
in
Boulder
County
in
2022.
This
assumes
that
each
each
adult
is
working.
E
Currently
for
2022,
we
see
that
you
know
the
income
needs
across
the
board,
exceed
the
income
needs
or
the
sort
of
the
wage
level
of
the
minimum
wage.
And
so
what
that
you
know
says
to
me
or
suggests
to
me
is
that
if
a
household
or
or
a
household,
you
know,
even
if
it
was
just
one
adult,
was
working
a
minimum
wage
job,
they
would
be
struggling
to
cover
all
of
their
expenses
if
they
lived
in
Boulder
County
in
2022.
E
E
You
know
that
there's
been
sort
of
a
steady
increase
in
the
cost
of
living,
or
at
least
the
income
needs
for
one
adult
household
in
terms
of
their
hourly
wage
needs
between
2001
and
2018,
with
a
fairly
substantial
job
experience
or
seen
between
2018
and
2022.
You
know
this
isn't
really
too
surprising.
Considering
you
know,
inflation
and
increases
in
the
cost
of
living
have
been
particularly
high,
and
you
know
sort
of
at
historic
levels
over
the
past
two
years.
E
So
you
know
that
largely
explains
this
high
jump,
but
also
just
emphasizes
you
know
how
much
cost
of
living
has
increased
in
the
past
couple
of
years
here
in
our
state,
and
this
was
just
for
a
one
adult
household
on
the
next
slide.
There's
estimates
for
one
adult
household
with
one
preschooler
and
you
can
see
again
similar
Trends
as
before.
E
On
the
next
slide.
I
think
you
know,
I
wanted
to
talk
about
just
sort
of
changes
and
different
rates
of
growth
in
terms
of
of
inflation
measures.
You
know,
as
director
Moss
mentioned,
you
know,
municipalities
and
local
governments
are
free
to
set
sort
of
a
cost
of
living
adjustment,
or
you
know,
increase
in
their
minimum
wage
standard
each
year.
E
E
So
here
we
see
a
comparison
of
income
needs
or
hourly,
income
needs
for
a
variety
of
different
household
types
living
in
Jefferson
County
between
2001
and
2022..
You
know
again,
if
you
look
at
that
white
line
at
the
bottom
there
that
represents
the
Colorado
minimum
wage
and
you
know
by
and
large,
except
for
you
know,
it
looks
like
one
year
in
2018.
E
The
income
needs
of
households
living
in
Jefferson
County
exceeded
that
the
minimum
wage
rate,
and
so
for,
if
we're
thinking
about
you,
know
what
you
know,
what
is
the
basic
level
of
income
that
folks
need
to
get
by.
You
know
definitely
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that.
At
least
you
know,
as
captured
by
the
self-sufficiency
standard,
without
any
sort
of
you
know,
public
assistance
based
on
the
minimum
wage
rate
alone.
E
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
can
see,
you
know
here
mapped
out
a
difference
between
what
the
self-sufficiency
standard
estimates
for
an
hourly
wage
rate
for
a
one
adult
household
between
2001
and
2022,
compared
to
what
that
minimum
wage,
the
minimum
wage
rate
was
for
those
years
corresponding
years,
and
you
can
see
you
know
well
over
time.
You
know,
there's
sort
of
been,
you
know,
different
variations,
and
the
Gap
has
changed
from
you
know
larger
to
smaller
year
to
year.
E
For
this
analysis,
we
look
only
at
working
age,
households
or
households
with
at
least
one
adult
between
the
ages
of
18
and
64,
without
a
work
limiting
disability.
So
you
know
that's
not
every
household,
but
it
does
allow
us
to
to
get
a
look
and
see
at
how
well
households,
in
our
state
I
mean
in
different
parts
of
our
state
have
been
able
to
meet
their
income
needs
and
what
what
share
of
households
are
are
struggling
to
get
by
based
on
that
differential
between
where
their
incomes
are
and
what
their
income
needs
are.
E
Income
needs
are
at
least
as
estimated
by
the
self-sufficiency
standard.
I
do
want
to
note
that
the
data
in
the
report
and
the
data
that
I'm
about
to
present
in
this
in
the
following
slides
is
from
2019,
and
so
you
know
doesn't
represent.
You
know
the
economic
changes
that
happened
as
a
result
of
the
kobit
19
pandemic
from
2020
onward.
E
However,
I
think
it
does
give
an
interesting
Benchmark,
at
least
in
terms
of
thinking
about.
You
know
where
we
were
at
the
beginning
of
the
you
know
before
the
pandemic
happened
and
also
you
know,
taking
a
step
even
further
back
looking,
you
know
back
to
the
Great
Recession
the
period
between
you
know
the
Great
Recession
and
2019.
E
E
We
have
those
income
inadequacy
rates
for
2019
for
for
the
state
of
Colorado
as
a
whole
as
well.
As
you
know,
counties
in
this
North
Front
Range
region.
Overall,
when
we
look
at
Colorado
as
a
whole
about
one
in
four
households
did
not
have
enough
income
or
adequate
income
to
cover
their
expenses
as
estimated
by
the
sales
sufficiency
standard.
E
So
that's
you
know,
quite
a
significantly
larger
share
of
households
that
you
know
are
facing
economic
insecurity
been
captured
by
the
official
poverty
measure,
and
if
we
look
at
that
income
inadequacy
rate
across
these
different
counties,
we
see
that
there
is
some.
You
know
some
variation
between
them
in
2019,
with
some
being
higher
than
the
state
state
rate
and
some
being
lower
foreign.
E
E
You
know
that
increased
substantially
in
2016,
largely
you
know,
for
a
number
of
reasons.
You
know
largely
being
the
Great
Recession
and
sort
of
sort
of
the
2001
recession,
as
well
so
sort
of
a
period
of
economic
upheaval
in
the
in
the
2000s,
and
we
can
see
that
you
know,
even
though
you
know
most
counties,
it's
you
know
separate.
You
know
Jefferson
and
Broomfield,
which
did
you
know,
see
tremendous
decreases
in
their
rates
of
income.
Inadequacy
most
counties
are
still
above
where
they
were
in
2000.
E
So
we
go
to
the
next
slide
so
really
quickly.
I
wanted
to
give
an
overview.
You
know
we've
been
focusing
primarily
on
sort
of
five
counties,
but
did
want
to
just
be
share
a
little
bit
of
information
about
what
those
wage
needs
look
like
in
counties
outside
of
the
five
counties
that
we've
looked
at
here
tonight
elsewhere
in
the
Front
Range
region.
E
So
with
that,
I
did
want
to
just
briefly
provide
you
with
some
links
to
follow
up
if
you're
interested
in
learning
more
about
the
self-sufficiency
standard
or
diving
into
you
know
more
detail.
I
mean
the
data
that
we
do
have
available.
You
can
go
to
our
website,
cclponline.org,
slash
resources,
Dash
Publications
or
visit
self-sufficiencystandard.org
Colorado
for
data
directly
from
the
University
of
Washington.
Who
prepares
this
for
us.
E
You
know
with
the
data
from
2022
that
I
presented
here
today
later
next
month,
and
so
definitely
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
report
and
and
more
data
to
take
a
look
at,
but
in
the
meantime,
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
or
other
folks
at
cclp
definitely
be
happy
to
connect
you
with
myself
and
provide
more
information
or
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
about
the
self-sufficiency
standard
or
the
overlooked
and
unaccounted
reports.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
Charles.
That
was
great.
Our
final
presentation
of
the
night
will
be
from
Sadie.
Sadie
is
an
attorney
and
the
director
of
work
quality
at
the
national
employment
law
project,
the
national
employee,
employment
law,
project
or
nelp
is
a
national
legal
research
and
policy
organization
known
for
its
expertise
on
Workforce
issues.
B
Nelp's
victories
over
the
last
decade
have
been
impacted.
The
lives
of
an
estimated
100
million
workers
and
their
families,
nelp's
area
of
expertise
includes
the
workplace,
rights
of
low-wage
workers
under
federal
state
and
local
employment
and
labor
laws,
with
a
special
emphasis
on
wage
and
hour
rights,
and
has
worked
with
most
of
the
cities
in
the
United
States
that
have
adopted
higher
City
minimum
wages.
B
B
She's
received
her
law
degree
magna
laude
from
New
York
University
School
of
Law,
where
she
was
root;
tildenkern
public
interest,
scholar
and
articles
editor
on
the
review
of
Law
and
social
change,
and
she
received
her
ba
Magna
cumlada
from
Brown
University
prior
to
joining
nelp
Sadie
clerk
for
The
Honorable
Ellen
Brie
Burns
of
the
U.S
District
Court
of
Connecticut
prior
to
law
school.
She
worked
as
a
labor
and
Community
organizer
for
New
York,
New,
York's,
Working
Families
party.
F
F
Okay!
Yeah!
That's
that's
the
title!
So
the
next
slide,
please,
okay,
great!
So
as
as
Scott
mentioned,
you
know
the
federal
minimum
wage,
as
we
all
know,
is
7.25
an
hour.
It's
been
725
an
hour
since
2009,
which
is
at
this
point
the
longest
stretch,
since
it
was
first
adopted
in
1938
that
the
federal
minimum
wage
floor
hasn't
moved.
So,
not
surprisingly,
we've
seen
momentum
over
these
last.
You
know
15
years
on
the
state
level
to
raise
the
minimum
wage.
F
Above
that,
we're
currently
at
a
moment
where
30
States
plus
DC
have
raised
their
minimum
wages
above
the
federal
floor.
Many
of
those
states
have
done
so
significantly
like
Colorado,
so
we're
at
a
point
now,
where
you
know
we
have
this.
We
have
states
that
are
raised
in
wage.
We
have
states
that
will
never
raise
the
minimum
wage
above
the
federal
floor
and
over
the
last
10
years,
we've
had
this
tremendous
wave
of
action
on
the
local
level
to
raise
the
minimum
wage.
F
You
know
it
seems
like
pretty
common
now,
but
back
in
2004
there
was
only
one
local
minimum
wage
law.
The
first
one
was
adopted,
I
think
in
San
Francisco
in
2004,
and
you
know
less
than
20
years
later,
we're
at
a
point
where
we've
seen
over
60
local
minimum
wage
laws,
many
of
them
adopted
in
the
last
seven
eight
years.
F
F
So
why
the
trend
towards
higher
minimum
wage
is
on
the
local
level
I
just
wanted
to,
and
I
mean.
Probably
all
of
this
is
pretty
known,
but
just
to
highlight
some
of
the
reasons.
One
is,
of
course,
the
lack
of
progress
on
the
federal
level,
not
just
the
725
wage
level,
but
the
fact
that
the
minimum
wage
for
tipped
workers
on
the
federal
level
is
still
two
dollars
and
13
cents
an
hour.
F
The
fact
that
we
still
have
a
sub
minimum
wage
of
425
for
youth
workers,
the
fact
that
disabled
workers,
many
of
them,
are
carved
out
of
the
725
an
hour
floor.
So
you
know
states
and
cities
who
want
to
rectify.
Some
of
these
exclusions
are
also
taking
action.
Think.
The
second
reason
why
we're
seeing
this
trend
is
because
there
is
a
national
Trend
towards
more
expansive
use
of
local
lawmaking
power
on
these
issues.
F
You
know
when
Colorado
repealed,
its
state
preemption
and
you
know,
allowed
localities
to
raise
to
enact
local
minimum
wages.
That
was
part
of
this
Nationwide
Trend
towards
localities.
Adopting
wages,
especially
I
mean
Colorado
is
not
an
example
of
this.
Since
you
know
the
state
has
raised
its
minimum
wage
significantly,
but
in
a
lot
of
places
you
know
cities
are
acting
where
their
state
legislatures,
where,
where
one
you
can't
do
it
via
ballot
in
the
state.
F
You're
seeing
cities
take
action
to
do
it,
especially
in
states
where
the
cost
of
living
is
much
higher
in
the
in
the
locality
taking
action.
I
think.
Another
reason
why
we,
why
we're
seeing
this
trend
is
because
you
know,
there's
been
a
real
over
the
last
20
to
25
years,
both
economic
evidence
and
Real
World
experience
has
pointed
to
the
benefits
of
raising
wages
without
the
feared
costs
and
I'll
highlight
some
of
the
research
in
a
few
slides.
F
Next
reason
you
know
worker,
organizing,
through
ballots
or
through
a
legislative
action.
We've
seen
a
tremendous
wave
of
work,
organizing,
whether
it's
the
fight
for
15
or
whether
it's
you
know,
Amazon
warehouse
workers,
organizing
or
what
have
you
that
has
both
you
know,
shifted
lawmakers
opinions,
but
also
shifted
public
opinion
towards
saying
this
as
a
key
issue
that
affects
not
just
workers
making
minimum
wages
but
affects
the
health
of
our
overall
economy,
and
you
know
related
to
that,
and
just
minimum
wage
is
a
broadly
popular
issue
with
the
public.
F
F
F
because
they
were
located
in
the
neighboring
states.
So
basically
looked
at
every
single
pair
of
neighboring
counties
that
had
a
different
minimum
wage.
During
that
time
period
And
it
found
no
adverse
employment
effects
and
again
no
evidence
that
business
left.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
research.
You
know
cut,
you
know,
trying
to
identify.
Okay,
why?
Why
is
this?
You
know?
Why
is
it
that
all
of
these
studies
show
that
minimum
wage
increases
have
little
or
no
discernible
effect
on
employment?
F
You
know.
Findings
that
hold,
even
when
you
look
at
younger
workers,
workers
with
fewer
educational
credentials
and
what
what
the
Studies
have
shown
and
you
can
move
to
the
next
slide.
Please
is
that
actually,
if
you
can
move
to
the
next
slide
and
then
I'll
come
back
to
the
slide,
sorry,
thank
you.
What
the
Studies
have
shown
is
that
there
are
a
variety
of
mechanisms
by
which
businesses
have
adapted
to
these
higher
wages.
You
know
one
you
know.
F
First,
you
know,
none
of
these
increases
are
going
to
725
to
15
overnight
right.
They
all
are
Fades
and
increases,
and
you
know
that
is
to
the
discretion,
obviously
of
lawmakers,
of
how
to
phase
in
an
increase
to
a
level
that
you
know
makes
sense
for
your
community.
But
you
know
they're,
not
these
huge
jumps,
and
so
the
adjustments
does.
This
have
an
opportunity
to
adjust
to
those
measured
increases.
F
Studies
show
that
it's
done.
You
know
through
price
adjustments,
obviously,
but
also
significantly
reduce
turnover
costs
and
hire
worker
productivity.
You
know
turnover
costs
are,
are
huge.
Minimum
wage
increases
are
estimated
to
absorb
approximately
50
percent
of
or
50
percent
of
the
higher
costs
of
a
or
reduced
turnover
is
estimated
to
absorb
approximately
15
percent
of
the
higher
costs
of
a
minimum
wage
increase.
F
F
So
there
is,
you
know,
a
a
lot
of
economic
research
kind
of
highlighting
the
benefits
of
higher
wages
for
businesses
and
if
you
could
go
back
to
the
previous
slide,
I
wanted
to
note
too,
that
you
know
of
the
economic
research
around
minimum
wage.
Over
the
last
you
know
five
seven
years
I'd
say
there
has
been
a
body
of
research
looking
specifically
at
the
impact
of
local
minimum
wage
policies.
F
You
know
one
because
there
are
more
and
more
of
them
too,
because
the
wage
levels
are
often
higher
than
what
state
minimum
wage
laws
end
up
being
and
so
I
I
cited
one
here.
That
was
that
was
the
first
analysis
of
the
effects
of
minimum
wage
policies
in
the
six
largest
cities
that
were
that
were
the
first
two
rates
and
minimum
wage
higher
than
10
10
an
hour.
So
this
was
back
in
2016.
F
You
know
it
is
a
significant
Trend
towards
adopting
higher
local
wages.
It
is
in
the
face
of
you,
know,
lack
of
activity
on
the
federal
level,
and
you
know
just
trying
to
address
really
spiraling
cost
of
living,
and
you
know
the
need
for
workers
to
be
able
to
make
ends
meet
and
that
there
is,
you
know,
significant
bodies
of
research,
finding
that
it
is
workable
and
good
for
businesses
and
workers
alike.
A
Sadie,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation
tonight.
At
this
point,
I
again,
I
would
like
to
thank
all
of
our
presenters
that
have
graciously
agreed
to
be
spend
their
time
with
us
tonight
and
provide
this
great
information.
I
want
to
remind
you
all.
Please
put
your
questions
into
the
question
and
answer
section
on
the
zoom.
A
We
will
go
through
those
questions
and
we
will
start
off
with
this
first
question
that
we
have
with
the
presentation
from
Scott
I
think
this
is
where
it
came
from
so
Scott.
This
most
likely
will
be
answered
by
you.
I'd
like
to
get
more
on
I'd
like
to
understand
more
about
an
intergovernmental
agreement.
Can
local
governments
and
counties
agree
through
an
intergovernmental
agreement,
divest
Authority
for
setting
the
minimum
wage
in
the
region
in
the
county,
municipality
or
separately
created
board
with
representatives
from
each
local
entity,
foreign.
D
Unfortunately,
I
have
less
than
complete
answer
for
you,
because
this
is
the
area
of
the
law
depends
on
local
government
law
in
which
virtually
everyone.
This
call
is
more
knowledgeable
than
the
state
labor
department,
because
this
depends
on
what
is
the
ballot
intergovernmental
agreement
among
County
cities,
towns,
Etc.
What
it
will
say
is
this
is
that
the
state
wage
law,
both
minimum
wage
law
under
Colorado
law
and
the
specific
statute
that
granted
authority
to
local
governments
to
enactment
wages,
does
not
restrict
any
kind
of
intergovernmental
agreement.
D
So
if
it's
a
valid
way
for
City
X
to
reach
an
agreement
with
other
cities
or
towns
or
counties,
and
it's
a
valid
way
for
City
X
again
under
local
government
law,
to
invest
authority
to
set
a
wage,
then
its
style
of
as
far
as
state
wage
law
is
concern.
So
that's
to
say
you
all
would
know
better
than
we
do
at
the
State
labor
department.
What
makes
an
intergovernment
that
we've
invalid,
what
it
requires
who
we
can
best
Authority
in,
but
it
will
save
this
much,
which
is
that
it's
best
for
predictability.
D
Regardless
of
what
level
you
pick
we're
agnostic
on
that,
whether
you
enact
something
what
the
level
is,
but
you
can
sort
of
put
it
on
autopilot.
So
if
you
make
clear
what
CPI
you're
using
you
could
set
them
in
a
wage
for
the
first
two
years
or
so
as
fixed
amounts
based
on
that
you
go
up
to
15
higher
than
last
year.
So
I
said
the
first
year
with
14
and
change
this
to
the
sixth
year
second
year,
15
and
change.
D
D
Option
is
again:
it's
given
options
on
endorsing
you
could
say
your
minimum
wage
is
that
the
first
year
or
two
we
go
up
to
15
and
then
our
local
Min
wage
for
the
city
of
X
is
the
state
minimum
wage
plus
15.
The
statement
of
wage
plus
10,
the
state
minimum
wage
plus
20
pick
a
level
I,
don't
care
a
percentage,
but
we
publish
every
late
September
what
the
coming
Year's
minimum
wage
is
based
on
the
CPI
reported
by
the
feds,
the
CPI
this
you
in
our
case,
so
you
could
just
piggyback
off
that.
D
A
D
The
idea
is
that
in
the
eyes
of
the
law-
and
this
is
just
set
by
Statute-
you
know
where
this
is
that
if
you
picked
your
colored
regions
on
a
map,
if
five
or
six
local
governments
reach
at
the
same
minimum
wage
in
the
eyes
of
the
statue,
this
is
one
way
it's
set
by
one
shaded
region
on
a
map.
So
it's
basically
one
jurisdiction.
In
other
words,
it's
one
jurisdiction.
Even
if
multiple
agree
within
the
statement,
the
government
agreed.
Yes,.
D
It
does
not.
This
was
a
bit
confusing
in
the
statute
as
they
can
see,
which
is
that
what
has
to
be
contiguous
is
if
cities
and
counties
want
to
affect
the
unincorporated
regions,
as
well
as
the
municipalities
within
the
county
for
accounting.
It's
not
a
city
and
calculate
group.
So
there
is
a
provision
of
the
law
that
says
that
won
a
more
contiguous
counties
can
reach
and
intergovernment
agreement
with
the
municipalities
within
them
to
raise
the
wage.
D
But
that's
just
about
whether
you're
covering
the
unincorporated
regions
there's
a
separate
version
of
the
statue
that
says,
if
any
number
of
local
governments
and
active
minimum
wage
together
that
counts
as
one
that
doesn't
have
to
be
continuous.
Now,
just
to
give
you
multiple
municipalities
and
virtually
no
municipalities
or
contiguous.
B
Thank
you
that
makes
sense
and
I
believe
so.
This
next
question
is
going
to
be
for
Sadie
I
believe
from
Joe.
Is
there
evidence
that
raising
the
minimum
wage
has
lowered
the
incidence
of
household
earnings
less
than
the
self-sufficiency
income
I.E?
If
wages
increase
and
employers
respond
with
higher
retail
prices,
do
workers
actually
benefit
or
do
we
move
the
SSI
higher
and
leave
workers
effectively
in
the
same
position
as
prior
conditions?
B
F
You
so
I
think-
and
you
know
Charles
can
also
chime
in
on
this,
but
I.
Think
no,
because
it's
not
a
100
pass-through
in
terms
of
like
right,
you
know,
like
employers,
will
not
pass
through
100
of
the
increased
labor
costs
into
like
a
higher
retail
price
for
their
for
their
goods,
either
the
various
adjustments
mechanisms
that
I
mentioned,
and
so
we
actually
you
know
the
data
that
I
cited
has
consistently
shown.
D
I
also
I
had
one
thing
from
the
state
perspective.
Just
data
we
looked
at
two
years
ago
is
that
the
two
leading
sectors
with
minimum
wage
workers
in
Colorado
so
the
most
minimum
wage
workers.
It
was
restaurants
and
Hospitality
minimum
wage
workers,
don't
tend
to
spend
a
lot
on
restaurants
and
Hospitality,
so
their
costs
aren't
going
to
go
up
proportional
to
the
minimum
wage
if,
in
other
words,
the
minimum
wage
has
made
increasing
cost
of
buying
food
restaurants
rather
than
supermarkets,
and
of
going
to
hotels
and
ski
resorts.
D
E
Yeah
and
I'll
just
add,
you
know,
at
least
over
the
period
of
time
that
we
have
data
for
from
the
cell
sufficiency
standard.
What
we
found
is
that
you
know
the
cost
of
living,
as
captured
by
the
self-surgency
standard,
has
actually
increased
more
than
that.
The
price
increases
under
you
know,
due
to
inflation,
as
measured
through
the
CPI
and
so
I
think
what
that?
What
that
says
is
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
costs
that
these
lower
income
households
are
facing.
Particularly
you
know,
child
care
or
housing
are
not
necessarily
costs.
E
Think
with
that,
in
my
mind,
raises
a
question
about
you
know:
is
it
really
wages
that
are
driving
increases
in
inflation
or
are
there
other
factors
at
play?
Outside
of
you
know:
increased
wages
either
through
you
know
just
employers
providing
higher
wages
to
their
employees
or
through
mandates
such
as
increases
in
the
minimum
wage.
You
know
I
think
there
are
other
factors
at
play
that
that
are
sort
of
apart
from
minimum
wage
policies.
A
Great
thank
you
for
that.
I
have
a
question
that
one
of
our
attendees
sent
me
in
advance-
and
this
is
probably
maybe
best
answered
by
Scott
but
Charles
and
and
Sadie
feel
free
to
jump
in
the
market
is
dictating
higher
wages
right
now.
Businesses
are
already
paying
more
than
25
an
hour
for,
say
restaurant
Cooks
How
concerned.
Should
this
person's
business
be
that
local
minimum
wages
will
be
over
that
hourly
pay
in,
say
2023
or
2024.
A
D
Yeah
excellent
question:
it's
always
interesting
when
the
market
wage
starts
to
exceed
what
the
minimum
wage
is
just
a
bit
of
a
side.
Note,
there's
always
talk,
and
this
is
something
where
I
don't
envy.
The
tough
policy
calls
the
local
governments
give
your
concerns.
If
we
raise
the
minimum
wage
in
our
jurisdiction,
is
that
going
to
divert
business
activity
to
the
neighboring
jurisdiction?
D
You
know
that
doesn't
have
these
costs.
What
I
can
tell
you
there
is
that
Denver's
experience
was
they
didn't
see
that
happen,
at
least
in
the
months
right
after
the
adoption
wage,
but
also
I've,
seen
the
opposite
problem,
which
is
that
I
was
at
a
coffee
shop
in
Arvada
they
couldn't
get
stabbed
and
they're
paying
about
minimum
wage.
The
problem
is
that,
if
you're
paying
much
less
than
Denver
minimum
wage,
a
mile
for
the
Denver
border,
I,
don't
know
who's
going
to
work
for
you.
So
there
is
this
phenomenon
of
once.
D
There
are
enough
local
minimum
wages.
It's
not
clear
it's
great
to
be
a
business
in
a
jurisdiction
without
a
minimum
being
the
only
one
still
paying
1365
next
year
right
if
everybody
in
this
call
adopts
at
minimum
wage
in
the
14,
15,
16s
I,
know
who's
going
to
work
and
we'll
end
up
with
mysterious
rewards
and
labor
shortages
in
the
other
cities
that
don't
adopt
something,
and
it
won't
be
a
mystery
at
all.
I'd
say.
But
getting
back
to
the
question
of
you
know
what
about
how
high
could
it
go?
D
There
is
that
limit
in
state
law
of
going
up
15
a
year,
so
I
put
on
the
fact
sheet
on
page
one
that
the
highest
any
of
y'all
could
adopt
next
year
would
be.
Let
me
just
make
sure
I
get
this
right
14.
If
you
wanted
to
this
example,
one
on
page
one.
Let's
say
you
want
to
go
as
high
and
as
fast
as
possible.
The
highest
you
could
do
is
1444
next
year
and
then
1661
in
2024.
And
if
you
really
want
to
do
tonight,
you
could
do
1910
in
2025..
D
So
there's
no
way
if
any
City
doesn't
have
minimum
wage.
Now
that
and
they
start
light
speed
as
quickly
as
they
could
in
2023,
they
can't
get
the
20
bucks
until
2026..
So
I
think
that
if
the
I
don't
know
what
the
dollar
amount
is-
and
you
know
yes,
if
you
get
to
around
22
bucks
by
2026
but
by
then
22
bucks
won't
be
the
same
thing.
It
is
now
our
intuition
of
his
22
bucks.
A
high
wage
now
would
be
really
different
between
26.,
so
I
think
the
statement
is
15.
D
D
B
B
D
Could
be
wrong
about
that
yeah
good
question,
no
issue
because
assume
there's
no
in
the
government
of
the
rooms.
If
a
county
adopts
a
minimum,
then
it
applies
only
to
the
unappropriated
parts
unless
there's
an
intergovernment
agreement.
So
if
Boulder
or
Will
County
adopted
their
own
minimum
wages,
then
or
if
one
did,
they
have
didn't
or
they
adopt
different
amounts
that
doesn't
affect
Erie
unless
it
reads
to
go
by
that
amount,
but
whatever
it
reenacts,
it
covers
Erie.
The
statute
says
that
a
town
can
adopt
its
own,
regardless
of
what
county
is
in.
A
So
I
think
this
one's
for
Charles
Charles.
If
you
know
looking
at
the
the
trends
that
you
were
showing
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
living
and
the
minimum
wages
and
kind
of
the
need
to
be
self-sufficient.
If
we
return
to
more
of
a
steady
trend
of
cost
of
living
for
households,
you
you
had
shown
kind
of
this
was
a
a
steady
Trend
that
was
that
was
upticking.
But
then
we
saw
that
major
jump
into
2022.
E
You
know
that's,
you
know
going
to
be
different
depending
on
where
we
look
in
the
state
just
based
on
the
way
that
the
self-sufficiency
standard
is
calculated.
But
you
know
I
would
say
you
know
higher.
You
know
and
I
think
the
another
point
to
make
is
that
that
would
be
higher
than
the
rate
of
increase
from
inflation
that
we've
seen
in
the
past
as
well,
so
sort
of
that,
like
two
point,
2.6
2.2
percent
I
think
it
was
even
before.
B
B
D
Well,
it's
a
tough
one.
First
of
us,
I
think
chicken
statue,
but
I
think
the
answer
is
that
it's
the
enactment
of
a
wage
that
counts
toward
a
10
Max.
So
if
two
different
cities
enact
local
minimum
wages
separately
and
then
later
form
an
IGA
things,
don't
count
as
two
you
can't
erase
it
essentially
I
think
double
check
the
statutory
rewarding
evident.
It's
a
good
question.
I
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
think
of
this
specific
scenario.
D
What
I
would
say
is
this,
so
I
think
it
would
count
as
two
they
use
about
how
many
enacted
not
what
they
do
afterwards.
I
would
say
this
I
think
this
one
I
can't
help
you
with
the
requirements
as
the
intergovernmental
agreements
here,
which
is
that
the
state
statute
that
talks
about
how
an
intergovernment
agreement
makes
all
the
jurisdictions
in
a
campus
one
for
purposes
of
counting
through
the
ten
percent.
It
doesn't
say
that
all
of
y'all
have
to
every
government
and
intergovern
agreement
has
to
move
the
same
exact
pace.
D
D
It
keeps
going
15
until
it
reaches
people
in
Denver
some
limit
city-wide,
you
could
say
in
the
government
agreement,
their
increase
starts
not
in
2020
or
2024,
and
they
keep
going
at
15
until
they
reach
that
same
level.
So
the
Indian
government
agreement
could
say
different
things
with
different
jurisdictions.
If
one
of
you
wanted
to
move
at
light,
speed
in
the
other
wanted
to,
you
know,
wait
a
year
before
you
start
an
increase
or
a
small
increase
in
year,
one.
D
B
A
Thank
you,
Scott
I,
appreciate
that,
so
you
know
I
think
this
question
is
for
Sadie
as
well
as
Charles,
when
we
look
at
that
self-sufficiency,
standard
and
kind
of
that,
and
and
not
maybe
not
just
specifically
what
that
self-sufficiency
standard,
but
also
kind
of
the
ability
for
people
to
to
sustain
within
their
communities.
If
that
standard
is
not
met.
What
are
the
choices
that
these
families
are
making
and
Howard?
Are
they
to
survive
in
these
communities
when
they
are
not
making
enough
to?
E
F
Well,
I
mean
I,
think
yeah
I
mean
I.
Think
if
you
look
at
rates
of
you
know,
you
know
dual
family
house,
so
multiple
families
living
in
one
household
or
you
know
like
I,
mean
the
short
answer
is
that
people
are
not
surviving,
but
they,
but
they
somehow
are.
You
know
I,
think,
like
anything
from.
If
you
look
at
research
on
rapes
of
like
child
Health
before
family
stress
levels,
you
know
like
working
multiple
jobs
with
schedules
that
are,
you
know
not
defined
in
advance
like
there
are.
F
E
Yeah
I
think
that's
right,
I
mean
I.
Think
people
are,
you
know
pretty
creative
in
terms
of
you
know,
trying
to
make
ends
meet,
but
you
know
ultimately
I
think
what
happens
is
either.
You
know,
folks
might
maybe
cut
back
on
some
expenses,
so
you
know
for
at
least
for
the
substituency
standard.
Maybe
that
means
you
know.
You
know
no
child
care
for
one
week
or
that
we're
foregoing
you
know
the
food
expense,
at
least
that's
assumed
in
the
self-sufficiency
standard.
E
I
think
that
does
mean
that
over
time
it
becomes
increasingly
difficult
and
unsustainable
for
for
lower
income
households
to
be
able
to
continue
to
live
in
some
of
these
high-cost
parts
of
our
state,
particularly
parts
of
the
state
that
I've
seen
cost
of
living
increase
by
you
know
a
substantial
amount
and
so
I
think.
Not
only
does
it
have
impacts
on
our
communities,
but
I
think
also
the
economies
of
our
communities.
In
terms
of
you
know
where
those
low-income
workers
are
are
you
know
who
are
employed
in
the
community?
E
You
know
if
they're,
if
they're
forced
to
move
out,
you
know,
maybe
those
employers
aren't
able
to
find
workers.
Maybe
you
know
we're
increasing
commuting
and
congestion
on
our
roadways.
Carbon
emissions
as
folks
are
commuting
further
distances
as
well.
You
know
so
I
think
there's
a
range
of
other
impacts
that
that
we
also
have
to
consider.
One
thing,
though,
that
I
should
note
is
that
you
know
another
way
that
folks
can
you
know
help
address.
E
Some
of
the
costs
are
a
captured
in
the
self-sufficiency
standard
is
through
public
benefit
programs,
and
so
that
self-sufficiency
standard
assumes.
You
know
the
income
needs
without
any
sort
of
public
supports
or
any
sort
of
assistance
from
programs
like
Snap
or
housing,
Choice
vouchers
and
so
I
think
expanding
those
programs
is
another
way
to
help
households.
B
Thank
you,
Charles
yeah
I
mean
as
local
governments
right.
We
see
this.
We
see
it
its
effect
on
the
services
that
we
provide
and
also
that
the
non-profits
provide
in
our
communities.
So
you
know
that's
kind
of
a
pain
point
that
many
of
us
face
this
next
question.
I
think
any
of
you
could
answer
it.
If
minimum
wage
increases
15
annually
over
a
four
to
five
year
period,
what
are
the
effects
on
public
employers
when
considering
wage
compression?
Many
public
employees
are
represented
by
unions
with
collective
bargaining.
D
Yeah
today,
right
now,
I'm
a
public
employer
of
100
people
in
Denver,
almost
and
yes,
Denver's
minimum
wage
has
been
going
up
by
more
than
the
three
percent
wage
increases
that
state
employees.
My
employees
are
getting
so
as
a
public
employer
with
budget
I'm
dealing
with
that
I'm
doing
what
I
can
to
try
to
raise
pay,
see
who
might
warrant
a
change
in
title
or
promotion,
but
I
think
you're
hitting
on
something
which
is
that,
whether
it's
governmental
or
say
a
sector
with
a
multi-year
CDA
collective
bargaining
agreement.
D
You
know
there
are
any
rage
scale
that
was
set
years
in
advance.
Predictability
may
have
to
be
adjusted
but
I
think
that's
some
of
the
basis
of
the
15
limit
per
year.
I
mean
58
a
year
is
way
higher
than
even
this
year's
inflation.
But
given
how
high
inflation
was
this
past
year,
15
isn't
as
far
above
inflation
as
they
thought
it
would
be
when
they
back
in
this
law,
because
we
had
you
know,
inflation
was
in
the
high
eights
last
year,
so
I
think.
D
The
answer
is
that,
given
that
inflation,
this
past
year
was
in
the
high
AIDS
percentages,
yeah
15
increase
would
be.
You
know,
16
change
above
that,
but
if
there's
gonna
be
15
the
following
year,
we
see
it
coming
so
I'll
say
this
as
a
public
employer.
You
know
I
just
you
know,
I
just
appreciate
a
year
of
lead
time
before
I
know,
there's
going
to
be
yet
another
increase,
so
I
think.
The
answer
is
that
you
know
predictability
is
key.
The
15
limit
does
help,
but
I
think
it's
coming.
D
That's
why
you
know
there's
this
gradual
steps
of
increases,
but
there's
also
the
prior
question
about
annual
CPA
adjustments.
Only
after
the
15
increases
excellent
question.
The
15
annual
increase
is
a
maximum
increase.
So
if
we
had
16
inflation
next
year,
I
shouldn't
even
say
that
out
loud,
you
know,
I
guess
the
most
they
can
go
up
is
15,
but
it's
a
maximum.
So
normally
yeah
inflation
adjusting
the
after
that,
because
you
can't
do
15
increase,
plus
inflation,
so
yeah,
so
to
be
after
any
15
percent.
You
did.
A
Great
thank
you
for
that
Scott
and-
and
you
kind
of
touched
on
this
next
question,
which
is
there's
the
15,
a
dollar
75
statutory
increases
to
reach
the
base
number,
which
would
likely
take
a
few
years
to
reach
the
new
minimum,
would
annual
adjustments,
perhaps
tied
to
CPI,
only
be
assessed
applied
after
the
initial
increases
reached
the
new
minimum?
Is
there
a
way
to
make
this
retroactive.
D
To
do
it
directed
but
yeah,
normally
you
would
do
adjustments
for
inflation,
otherwise
only
after,
however
many
years,
if
any
of
15
I
mean
a
jurisdiction,
could
decide
they're
going
up
10
a
year
or
inflation
starting
now,
but
they
can
go
up
at
most
15.
So
if
you
do
two
years
of
15,
you
can
do
inflation.
Adjusting
after
that
and
oh
there's,
another
question
just
lending
a
flag
is
that
yeah
the
statute
says
pressure
is
correct.
D
B
Yeah,
thank
you
and
then
maybe
Charles
and
Sadie
could
jump
in
on
in
other
jurisdictions.
Have
we
seen
wage
compression
as
a
major
challenge
where
you
know
and
I
guess
Sadie
is
probably
particularly
relates
to
your
work?
Have
we
seen
that
as
a
major
challenge
that
communities
are
facing
as
they
enact
higher
minimum
wages.
F
So
I
think
where
you
know
one
of
the
benefits
of
where,
where
are
the
increases,
and
this
most
of
them
have
been
pretty
modest
and
drawn
out
over
several
years.
It
is
not
as
big
of
a
concern
I
mean
it
is.
It
is
true
that
when
you
raise
the
wage
for
for
like
the
lowest
paid
workers,
you
are
going
to
see
a
bump
in
income
of
like
you
know.
The
next
sector
tear
up
right
because
you
do
have
to
have
a
bit
of
differentiation
between
like
the
lowest
paid
and
like
the
second
lowest
paid.
F
F
B
D
We
don't
have
that
bad
geography,
unfortunately,
but
you
know
Joe
I'm
with
you
in
that
you
know
my
budget
doesn't
go
up
15
for
the
workers.
That
you
know
is
less
that
I
have
a
lot
of
minimum
wage
workers,
but
if
the
minimum
wage
goes
up
15,
then
people
compression
like
you're,
saying
people
just
above
minimum
wage
need
somewhat
of
a
raise,
that's
pretty
close
and
it
bumps
up
all
the
ships.
Basically
yeah
and
you
can't
have
the
tax
whatever
you
thought
it
might
be
up.
D
What
I'll
say
is
this:
the
state
has
looked
into
this
as
an
employer.
This
beyond
my
agency,
there's
a
fraction
of
state
employees
that
get
minimum
wage,
some
general
there's
some
entry-level
administrative
assistance,
type
staff
or
receptionists
and
Google
Gates,
and
you
know
those
books
to
go
up
15
those
higher
than
maybe
congression
issue,
but
not
up
to
three
percent.
But
you
know
I
would
do
the
budget
for
my
agency
doesn't
go
up.
We
got
no
extra
funding
for
anything
other
than
the
three
percent
raise.
D
D
Myself
and
many
of
you
I
have
good
news,
we're
already
taking
that
hit,
because
once
Denver
did
a
minimum
wage
that
high
Denver's
a
good
chunk
of
the
labor
force
of
you
know
this
region
that
I'm,
in
that
many
of
you
are
in.
If
you're
within
you
know,
10
to
20
or
30
miles
of
Denver,
then
you're
already
competing
with
the
largest
jurisdiction
in
the
area
where
the
Min
wage
is
gonna,
be
17.
Bucks
is
29
cents
next
year,
so
I
already
have
that
problem.
D
I've
been
you
know
as
a
public
employer
agnostic
about
it.
But
you
know
I've
had
to
worry
about
what
I'm
doing
in
my
wage
scale,
based
on
Denver
Tyrant
as
a
public
employer
I'm
not
really
concerned
with
more
than
more
people
are
doing
a
minimum
wage
of
16
17
the
coming
years,
because
I
already
have
to
worry
about
Denver.
That's
the
competition
for
my
employees,
so
you
know
good
news.
D
You
know
we've
already
taken
that
hit,
regardless
of
what
most
of
the
rest
of
you
all
do,
because
Denver,
you
know,
send
The
Dominoes
falling
on
the
idea
of
wages
below
70
an
hour.
We
already
have
to
adjust
our
budgets
and
you
know
Joe,
maybe
we'll
join
bake,
sale
or
something
because
I'm
with
you.
It's
a
challenge
for
a
public
employer
I'm,
not
stopping
I.
100
agree
with
your
question.
I
can't
just
increase
my
budget
anymore.
You
can
increase
sales
revenues.
B
Thank
you
all
so
much
I
think
it
looks
like
we're
sort
of
to
the
end
of
our
questions
and
we're
also
real
close
to
the
end
of
our
time.
So
I
think
it's
a
great
point
for
us
to
kind
of
wrap
up.
I
wanted
just
to
say
thank
you
to
our
presenters
and
for
everyone
who
has
joined
us
tonight,
both
for
the
great
presentations
and
the
great
questions.
B
This
presentation
will
be
available
online
you'll
be
able
to
find
it
on
the
Boulder
County
Consortium
of
City's
website,
along
with
answers
to
any
additional
questions.
If
you
send
them
to
us
and
additional
information
from
the
presenters.
Unfortunately,
the
chat
feature
wasn't
working
tonight.
We
will
follow
up
with
an
email
in
the
new
near
future,
with
the
link
for
the
information
Scott
for
the
information
sheet,
Scott
shared
during
his
presentation,
as
well
as
contact
information
for
the
other
presenters.
B
This
is
just
the
beginning,
you've
heard
here
tonight.
What
you've
heard
here
tonight
was
focused
on
the
mechanics
of
minimum
wage,
how
state
law
has
changed,
National,
wage,
Trends
and
cost
of
living
information
related
to
our
local
communities.
Looking
forward,
we
need
to
start
having
these
serious
conversations
with
our
constituents.
B
The
minimum
wage
working
group
was
started
out
of
the
Consortium
of
cities,
but
we
are
not
limiting
participation
to
Consortium
member
City
electeds,
while
all
of
the
cities
and
regions
we
represent,
have
different
special
characters
and
circumstances.
Wage
and
housing
are
issues
that
impact
our
communities
regionally
in
order
to
avoid
creating
unequal
playing
fields
for
businesses
and
not
increasing
incentives
for
employees
to
take
on
longer
commutes
having
a
unified
Regional
minimum
wage
would
be
beneficial.
B
If
you
are
interested
in
joining,
please
reach
out
to
me
or
Devin,
we
would
love
to
include
you
in
the
working
group.
Please
let
us
know
if
you
or
your
jurisdictions
are
interested
in
moving
forward
with
the
conversation
on
local
minimum
wage
efforts,
particularly
if
there's
interest
in
a
coordinated
wage.
We
look
forward
to
continuing
our
conversation
with
each
of
you,
whether
it's
sharing
information
or
working
on
those
mous
together.
Thank
you.
So
much.