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From YouTube: May 25, 2022 - Marshall Fire Community Meeting - Docket DC-22-0003 Accessory Dwellings
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Marshall Fire Community Meeting - Rebuilding in Unincorporated Boulder County, May 25, 2022. DC-22-0003: Land Use Code text amendments related to Accessory Dwellings. Learn more at https://www.boco.org/dc-22-0003
A
While
I
am
going
to
be
giving
this
initial
presentation,
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
minute
and
thank
all
the
staff
support
that
we
have
here
today
on
the
call,
because
I
definitely
cannot
do
this
alone.
Dale
case
kim
sanchez,
rick,
hackett
running
the
machine,
denise
grimm,
elisa
childress,
andrea
vaughn
and
ethan
abner
before
we
get
started,
I
just
wanted
to
lay
out
a
few
ground
rules
which
will
hopefully
keep
us
on
task,
because
we
do
have
a
lot
to
cover
today
in
a
limited
amount
of
time.
A
A
And
you
can
also
use
the
chat
to
comment
and
ask
questions
so
that
option
is
available
for
you
as
well.
After
this
first
section,
we
will
have
breakout
rooms
that
are
separated
by
geographic
areas,
you'll
be
assigned
into
the
geographic
area
you
selected
when
you
registered
again.
We
have
some
follow
questions
to
dive
a
little
bit
deeper
into
kind
of
what
might
be
unique
about
your
area
and
an
activity
during
that
session.
A
A
A
A
A
But
essentially,
an
accessory
dwelling
is
a
small
second
residence
on
a
property
that
has
a
single
family
home.
That
is,
the
single
family.
Home
is
the
primary
home
on
the
property,
and
these
additional
units
are
subordinate
in
nature.
To
that
primary
home,
the
accessory
dwelling
is
owned
by
the
property
owner.
It
might
be
used
for
the
property
owner
for
their
their
own
purposes,
but
it
may
also
be
rented
to
other
people
to
have
a
home
in
the
area.
A
Currently,
the
boulder
county
land
use
code
includes
three
types
of
accessory
dwelling
options
and
here's
a
good
place
to
pause
and
remind
everybody
that
we
are
talking
about
the
unincorporated
areas
of
the
county
today.
So
not
the
cities
in
in
town,
so
not
louisville
and
not
superior,
and
that
is
what
the
land
use
code
covers.
It's
the
unincorporated
areas
and
in
the
code
there
are
three
types
of
accessory
dwellings,
a
family
care
unit
and
agricultural
worker
unit
in
a
historical
accessory
dwelling
unit.
A
And
these
require
a
limited
impact
special
reuse
review,
so
they
do
require
a
board
account
commissioner's
review.
There
are
various
limits
about
how
they
can
be
used.
You
know
they
they
may
be
temporary.
If
the
use
changes,
the
structure
might
need
to
be
decommissioned
as
a
residence
or
removed,
and
it
does
often
require
annual
reporting
by
owners.
A
And
the
simple
answer
to
that
is
things
change,
housing,
affordability,
the
aging
of
the
population
changing
and
how
changes
in
how
families
live
together?
Ideas
about
what
sustainable
and
equitable
development
looks
like
are
all
factors
that
drive
change
and
the
boulder
county
comprehensive
plan
was
amended
in
2019
as
a
reflection
of
those
broader
changes.
A
These
next
few
slides
we're
going
to
walk
through
a
couple
of
permutations
of
accessory
dwellings,
again
just
to
get
us
all
on
the
same
page
about
what
these
might
look
like
start
developing
some
common
language
around
them.
So
we
know
what
we're
talking
about
when
we
talk
to
each
other
and
this
one
first
one
is
an
integrated
accessory
dwelling.
A
So
these
are
units
that
are
added
interior
to
the
principle
or
along
as
part
of
the
primary
home.
It
might
be
an
attic
apartment
or
a
basement
unit.
In
this
picture
on
the
right,
this
was
a
220
square
foot,
conversion
of
an
extra
bedroom,
so
it
could
be
maybe
a
main
floor
master
suite
with
a
kitchen.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
so
as
we
kind
of
reviewed
the
literature,
you
know
listen
to
what
we
heard
from
you
after
the
fire
in
our
in
our
listening
sessions
and
kind
of
looked
at
these
across
the
country.
These
are
some
of
the
benefits
that
have
been.
You
know
that
we've
identified
through
those
various
needs,
you
know
providing
a
tool
for
folks
to
age
in
place,
whether
they
live
in
the
main
house
or
the
the
accessory
dwelling
providing
opportunities
for
multi-generational
living
on
the
property
it
does
provide.
A
A
One
thing
I
learned
when
we
spoke
to
housing
and
human
services
about
accessory
dwellings
was
that
studio
apartments
in
our
area
are
in
high
demand
because
they're
not
commonly
built
and
they
generally
rent
at
a
less
expensive
rate.
So
you
know
this
could
provide
that
type
of
solution
and
also
that
these
really
can
blend
with
the
neighborhood.
C
A
So
again,
as
we
were
looking
into
accessory
dwellings,
there
are
some
common
concerns
that
pop
up-
and
these
are
relate
to
traffic
potential
parking
issues.
Maybe
additional
development,
new
structures
or
structures
in
different
locations
could
impact
features.
People
appreciate
concerns
about
increased
noise
and
activity
levels,
so
that
kind
of
maybe
the
hustle
and
bustle
of
the
neighborhood
that
level
of
activity
might
change
potential
diminishment
of
privacy.
A
C
Yes,
so
I
am
not
against
adu
in
general,
but
I
feel
strongly.
These
should
be
issues
that
have
a
policy,
that's
for
the
boater
county
and
not
these
carved
out
just
for
the
marshall
fire-
and
I
don't
understand
why
we're
covering
this
up
this
pretty
much
fire
all
the
reasons
benefits
and
concerns
are
all
valid
throughout
the
boulder
counties.
I
really
hope
that
we
actually
take
these
at
the
county
level.
Have
a
clear
policy
like
they
did
in
the
city
of
boulder.
A
A
A
We're
tackling
this
smaller
piece
first,
but
we
do
intend
to
pick
up
that
county-wide
discussion
later.
You
know
the
county
is
a
very
different
area
than
the
city
of
boulder.
It's
much
more
diverse
in
its
landscapes.
It's
much
more
diverse
in
the
types
of
development
that
we
have
in
various
areas
of
the
county.
A
D
Hi
I
wanted
to
first
thank
you
all
very
much
for
having
this
meeting
and
I
think
it's
really
timely
and
we're
just
so
grateful
that
you're
doing
this
public
process.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
speak
during
the
meeting.
I
I
just
had
a
question
I
wanted
to
second
what
eve
just
mentioned.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
look
at
this
at
a
county-wide
level
and
also
to
consider
who's
impacted
just
because
our
we
didn't
have
a
structure
destroyed.
D
E
I'd
like
to
just
ask
if
you're,
considering
having
different
policies
in
different
parts
of
bold
of
the
affected
area,
because,
as
you
were
saying
a
few
minutes
ago,
different
parts
of
the
county
have
different
characteristics
and
different
neighborhoods
are
different.
You
know
more
of
an
agricultural
areas
more
more
of
a
residential
area,
and
I
I
think
that
that
warrants
separate
consideration,
and
it
has
these
different
concerns,
for
example,
have
different
weights
depending
on
where
these
are.
A
A
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a
strong
preference
about
that
now.
You
know
we
don't
have
sort
of
something
written
already
at
this
point
in
time.
It's
just
really
early
to
kind
of
learn
about
what
what
you
think
and
tell
us
what
might
be
appropriate,
but
it
is
one
of
those
common
things.
That's
in
codes-
I
I
don't
know
what
the
outcome
of
that
would
be
here.
B
A
A
C
And
why
so
seem
like
the
people
will
benefit
most
is
the
ones
to
go
by
that
law
to
build
them,
because
they
will
make
the
law
more
valuable
and
they
change
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
didn't
benefit
the
policy
intended
to
be
affordable,
housing
income.
All
these
things
that
you
just
mentioned.
So
that's
why
I
just
feel
quite
uncomfortable.
A
A
How
do
we
also
address
the
concerns
so
that
these
new
dwellings
do
blend
in
with
the
neighborhood,
and
this
is
where
we
are
getting
into
some
of
those
common
standards
and
restrictions
that
we've
seen
in
in
a
variety
of
other
codes?
How
other
folks
have
approached
this-
and
this
is
size
limitations-
is
one
that's
in
almost
all
of
them.
A
Off-Street
parking
requirements
may
or
may
not
be
the
requirement
for
owner
occupancy
of
the
primary
or
accessory
dwelling.
You
know
in
urban
areas
these
might
be
restricted
to
certain
zones.
There
are
often
architectural
related
limitations
or
restrictions.
For
example,
you
know
if
you
do
a
completely
detached
unit,
it
can
only
be
one
story.
A
The
fact
that
the
primary
and
the
accessory
dwelling
must
be
sold
together
again.
This
isn't
something
that
we
intend
to
result
in
in
future
subdivision
and
that
these
may
not
be
short-term
rentals.
So
I
think
that
that
hits
on
a
couple
of
things
mike
that
you've
had
mentioned.
So
these
are
you
know.
All
of
the
things
that
we
can
talk
about,
and
you
know
sort
of
discuss,
is
whether
they're
needed
or
not.
A
F
F
A
A
For
example,
you
know
keeping
accessory
dwelling
small
contributes
to
them
being
affordable,
but
can
also
help
minimize
any
of
the
kind
of
concerns
about,
since
they
would
be
occupied,
maybe
by
one
person
rather
than
a
large
family.
So
there
might
not
be
the
parking
impacts
or
the
same
level
of
traffic
impacts.
If
there's
a
larger
unit
and
being
small
means
they
take
up
less
space,
so
potentially
they
have
less
of
an
impact.
A
F
A
I
have
no
idea
how
that
happened.
Thank
you.
This
next
slide
kind
of
shows
different
permutations,
I'm
an
accessory
dwelling
and
provides
the
size
of
each
one.
So
you
can
get
a
sense
of
what
different
amounts
of
floor
area
or
square
footage
might
might
look
like
in
a
design,
and
so
with
this
in
mind,
what
do
you
think
is
an
acceptable
size
for
an
accessory
dwelling
in
your
neighborhood.
A
The
other
component
of
drafting
kind
of
a
set
of
rules
and
regulations
or
parameters
is
establishing
how
accessory
dwellings
might
be
reviewed,
and
if
the
planning
and
zoning
review
process
might
be
required
or
should
be
required,
permitting
processes
can
range
from
something
that's
pretty
strict
to
something.
That's
really
permissive.
You
know
now
we
for
the
three
types
of
accessory
dwellings
that
we
have.
A
H
I
guess
I
just
want
to
say
say
something,
maybe
contrary
to
the
idea
of
making
this
county-wide,
I
mean.
I
agree
that
having
this
be
county-wide
at
some
point
is
important,
but
I
also
understand
that
that
will
be
a
long
process
and
most
of
the
fire
impacted
folks
planning
right
now
and
hopefully
be
building
shortly.
So
if,
if
this
happens
six
months
from
now
or
nine
months
or
a
year
from
now,
it's
really
of
no
use
to
the
fire
impacted
folks.
B
C
Most
homeowners
don't
have
enough
insurance
to
review
their
homes
and
then
why?
Then
you
want
to
put
more
money
that
the
considerable
more
money
to
do
adu-
and
I
still
thought
about
it.
My
only
answer
come
up
is
that
if
we
allow
adu
to
the
martial
fire
rebuilding
lots,
that
would
make
the
lot
more
profitable
for
the
developer
to
come
to
buy
them
and
if
there
really
really
any
other
reason
in
other
urgency
on
this
matter,
I
would
really
like
to
be
enlightened.
I
C
So
why
wouldn't
that
be
covered
by
the
current
county
policy,
we're
all
waiting?
There
are
people
waiting,
we
privileged,
they
have
adu
and
we
were
forced
to
demolish
that.
So
county
historically
has
been
extremely
restrictive
on
adu
and
now
we're
opening
all
those
details,
but
it's
only
applied
to
the
martial
fairy
beauty
and
not
apply
the
same
houses
in
the
same
neighborhood.
G
So
it's
really
creating
for
us
at
least
it's
creating
a
dwelling
that
allows
us
to
live
here
and
not
have
to
leave
the
area
just
because
of
under
insurance,
and
I
agree
it
should
be
addressed
across
boulder
county,
but
the
urgency
for
the
fire
effect
that
houses
is
absolutely
immediate.
We
have
to
either
figure
out
whether
we
can
do
this,
or
some
of
us
have
to
consider
whether
or
not
we
have
to
leave
the
area.
G
It's
the
yes,
we
are
underinsured,
but
for
us
to
build
a
smaller,
more
affordable.
Adu
immediately
allows
us
to
manage
our
finances
in
a
way
that
allows
us
to
have
a
longer
term
to
build
that
house
I
can
have.
I
can
go
through
the
whole
planning
process
and
then
have
my
builder
not
finished
my
floors.
My
kitchens,
my
walls
and
I
live
on
that
property
and
can
do
so.
But
if
I
have
to
live
in
a
rental
in
lafayette,
then
I
have
to
pay
rent
in
lafayette.
I
have
to
pay
on
an
sba
loan.
A
So
returning
to
our
poll
about
notice,
it
sounds
like
in
this
result
we
had
a
little
bit
of
mixed
opinions,
and
so
I,
this
answer
kind
of
leads
us
to
our
next
question.
I
apologize
these
later
slides
here
are
not
fun
to
look
at
it's
a
lot
of
text,
but
providing
neighborhood
notice
in
common
times
or
opportunities
requires
that
we
have
some
sort
of
planning
and
zoning
review
process
prior
to
obtaining
a
building
permit.
A
A
J
A
The
second
option
was
planning.
Review
should
only
be
required
for
accessory
dwellings
that
are
separate
structures
than
the
primary
home
and
planning
review
should
be
required
for
all
accessory
dwellings
or
the
last
response
which
nobody
chose,
but
I
do
not
believe
accessory
dwelling
should
be
permitted.
A
A
A
They
have
a
document
called
the
abcs
of
adus
and
then
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
step-by-step
guide
to
design
and
development.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
in
these-
and
you
want
to
learn
more
about
them-
the
aarp
livable
livable
communities
website
has
those
documents
of
their
free,
pdf
downloads
and
then
some
of
the
other
materials
we
used
in
our
presentation.
Today
we
got
from
the
city
and
county
of
denver.
A
A
A
A
B
So
hannah
there's
just
a
comment
in
the
in
the
chat
and
then
eve
has
her
hand
up
and
if
there's
anyone
else
wants
to
ask
questions
before
we
go
into
the
breakouts
phil
made
a
comment
that
you
know
your
schedule.
Your
timeline
depicts
two
and
a
half
months
from
now
and-
and
I
think
his
concern
is
that
feels
unworkable
for
those
of
us
trying
to
submit
for
building
permits
in
the
next
few
weeks.
A
A
Just
to
reiterate,
if
you
are
sharing
it
on
social
media,
the
one
thing
that's
important
to
convey
is
this:
is
a
survey
for
unincorporated
boulder
county
residents.
It's
not
helpful
or
useful
to
have
folks
from
the
cities
and
towns
participate
in
the
survey
and
it
kind
of
won't
make
our
results
very
useful.
C
A
A
C
Yes,
so
we
only
received
the
letter
like
today,
and
the
only
reason
we
kind
of
know
earlier
is
one
of
our
neighbor,
that
is
on
an
email
list,
but
most
of
a
neighbor
actually
know
nothing
about
it
and
to
that
neighbor.
That
mentioned
that,
so
I
was
just
kind
of
wondering
what
the
the
timeline
on
these
years
and
seem
like
you
know.
We
need
a
hurry
to
make
some
decision
or
we're
already
assuming.
This
is
already
decided.
Only
the
detail
is
going
to
be.
You
know,
fine-tuned.
B
B
And
I
think
what
we're
hearing
also
on
the
chat
is
this:
the
timeline
is,
is
discouraging
for
people
and
and
they
should
know
that
you
know
this
is
an
expedited
timeline
for
for
the
county.
But
we
we
hear
you
and
understand
that,
and
I
would
urge
you
to
work
with
your
rebuilding
coordinator,
which
has
been
mentioned
in
the
chat
too
explore.
F
B
K
Yes,
hi
all
this
is
rick
hackett
staff,
I'm
going
to
enable
the
breakout
rooms.
I
have
put
you
in
the
rooms
based
on
what
you
entered
on
the
registration
form.
A
few
of
you
didn't
indicate
that
you
were
a
resident,
so
I
randomly
placed
you
in
rooms.
You
should
be
able
to
leave
a
room
and
go
to
a
different
room
if
you'd,
if
you'd
like,
but
I
will
open
the
rooms
now
and
hannah.
I
believe
what
was
the
kind
of
time
you
were
planning
to
have
the
rooms
open
for
the
smaller
discussions.