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From YouTube: Boulder County Regional Opioid Council (October 2022)
Description
Second Meeting of the Boulder County Regional Opioid Council (BCROC). Recorded Oct. 21, 2022
For more information on Region 6 Opioids Abatement activities, visit: https://boco.org/Region-6-Opioids-Council
A
Email
that
he
said
what
happened
there,
we
go
that
he's
that
he
sent
out.
What
we're
trying
to
do
today
is
see
if
we
can
agree
on
the
projects
and
services
that
the
advisory
Council
forwarded
to
us
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
the
submittal
on
some
recommendations.
Advisory
Board
operations,
board
I
guess
it
was
to
submit
our
first
two-year
plan
and
and
Robin
and
others
are
going
to
walk
us
through
that
process
with
with
the
really
great
tools
that
was
sent
with
the
materials.
A
So
that's
the
extent
of
the
intro
that
I
want
to
do
here,
so
we
can
get
down
to
work,
but
I'm
I'm
just
going
to
call
names
because
in
the
order
you're
on
my
screen
and
just
ask
you
to
say
who
you
are
and
who
you
work
for
and
why?
Why
you're
here?
So
Robin
will
hear
a
lot
from
you
later
later,
but.
C
Hey
everyone
Kelly
bite,
I'm,
the
program
manager
for
the
behavioral
health,
Hub
out
of
Boulder
County,
Community
Services,
so
I
work
with
Jim
and
Lisa
mercy
and
Tucker
the
members
of
the
behavioral
health
Team
in
helping
to
stand
up
some
of
the
work
with
the
opioid
operations
group.
A
A
E
A
A
H
Hi
everyone
I'm
Lisa
Moreno.
She
her
Aya
and
I,
am
Behavioral
Health
strategic
planner
within
strategic
initiatives
under
Robin
o'hamanek
at
Community,
Services
Mandy.
F
I
No,
no,
please
no
apologies
needed
I'm
Anjali
nandi,
the
chief
probation
officer
with
the.
A
A
Oh
I
think
I
met
you
at
our
our
yeah
criminal
justice,
Advisory
board
meetings,
Jim.
J
Good
afternoon,
Jim
adamsberger
with
community
services,
department
and
I
provide
support
to
the
opioid
team.
K
L
A
B
All
right,
so,
commissioner,
Levy
really
shared
the
the
goal
of
the
meaning
and
the
outcome
that
we
hope
to
get
to
and
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody,
especially
for
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
on
our
meeting
just
some
guidelines.
We
have
about
virtual
meetings,
so
this
is
not
intended
to
be
a
public
hearing,
which
means
we
will
not
be
taking
public
comment
or
having
interaction
with
the
public
and
for
stakeholders
and
members
of
the
public
who
are
not
Regional,
Council,
Members
or
presenting
staff.
B
Please
mute
your
microphones
and
turn
your
cameras
off
and
while
you
may
choose
to
make
comments
in
the
chat,
the
comments
will
not
be
part
of
the
public
record
and
will
not
be
followed
up
on
by
staff.
B
So
we've
done
the
welcome
and
introductions
gotten
through
some
technical
difficulties,
thanks
to
Barb
Halpin,
for
helping
us
transition
from
teams
onto
Zoom
and
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
Kelly
to
you
to
begin
the
discussion
about
the
shovel
ready
program,
recommendations.
B
C
You
Robin,
so
we
did
want
to
start
with
just
a
little
bit
of
a
recap
from
September.
We
know
that
it
was
our
inaugural
meeting
of
the
council,
and
so
we
threw
a
lot
of
information
at
you
all
and
wanted
to
sort
of
re-ground
ourselves
in
what
we
sort
of
accomplished
in
that
discussion
and
where
we
left
off,
which
is
really
where
we're
beginning
today,
with
the
review
of
the
shovel
ready
programs
that
we
put
forth
as
recommendations.
C
C
Talking
about
the
landscape
analysis
exercise
that
the
opioid
operations
board
did
and
some
other
quantitative
data,
also
talking
about
some
of
the
foundational
structures
that
have
been
put
forth
from
the
state
to
really
guide
the
allocation
process.
So
the
memorandum
of
understanding
from
the
Attorney
General's
office,
which
also
outlined
the
approved
purpose
areas
those
five
areas
that
are
eligible
for
funding,
which
you've
heard
us
talk
a
lot
about
so
far.
We
also
talked
about
the
work
of
the
operations
board.
C
Our
opioid
operations
committee
has
been
working
since
May
meeting
by
monthly,
from
May
to
September,
to
really
both
gather
shovel,
ready
programs
for
those
initial
recommendations
and
then
really
review
sort
of
the
criteria
against
which
we
were
rating.
Some
of
those
programs
had
a
few
exercises
dedicated
to
our
understanding
of
priority
areas
across
those
five
approved
purpose
areas
and
then
dedicated
particular
funding
amounts
that
were
in
alignment
with
the
prioritization
of
those
five
areas.
C
So
a
lot
of
sort
of
methodology
and
process
to
from
that
board
to
go
into
developing
the
recommendations
that
we
also
spent
time
introducing
to
you
in
September,
and
so
we
did
talk
to
you
about
what
our
proposed
project
areas
are
and
the
allocation
amounts.
And
then
we
gave
a
little
bit
of
homework
in
the
closing
of
that
discussion,
which
was
really
our
supplemental
materials
that
listed
out
the
allocation
amounts,
the
projects
that
we're
putting
forward
and
then
a
little
bit
of
an
ask
from
Council
Members
to
review
that
and
come
up
with.
C
C
C
But
really
this
is
our
primary
charge
of
today
is
to
determine
if
those
recommended
programs
are
at
a
place
where
we
feel
comfortable
submitting
them
to
the
attorney
general
to
release
funds
to
our
region,
and
so
the
the
process
that
we're
gonna
sort
of
go
through
is
first
we're
going
to
look
at
each
of
those
project.
Areas
they're
broken
down
in
the
same
way
that
you
receive
them
in
that
supplemental
information
packet.
C
So,
there's
a
table
for
the
treatment
programs,
the
prevention
programs
and
the
additional
area
programs
and
again
those
three
categories
are
really
the
the
approved
use
categories
that
are
reflected
in
the
cost
system
that
we
talked
about.
So
the
the
question
there
as
we
go
through.
C
This
is
a
reminder
that
we're
going
to
probably
come
back
to
a
few
times
today.
We
are
not
needing
to
approve
the
dollar
amounts
that
are
going
to
particular
programs
today.
So
really,
in
order
for
us
to
draw
down
funding
from
the
state,
what
we
need
to
do
is
just
approve
our
allocation
amounts
at
that
approved
use
area.
Those
three
categories
noted
above
so
not
yet
the
project
area.
We
will
have
additional
time
and
process
in
place
to
confirm
that
the
allocation
amounts
going
to
particular
projects
is
really
what
we
want
to
see.
C
So
before
we
go
into
our
exercise,
I
did
want
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
reorientation
to
the
information
packet
that
was
sent
out
to
you
all
after
our
September
meeting.
This
is
sort
of
the
table
breakdown
that
you'll
see
here
today.
So
the
green
header
is
again
that
approved.
Use
section
over
to
the
left
is
the
approved
use
area.
C
So
we
kind
of
think
of
that
as
like
a
subcategory
within
the
approved
use
section
and
again,
that's
how
that's
reflected
in
a
drop
down
sort
of
categorization
of
the
cost
system,
and
so
the
body
of
the
actual
table
shows
the
program
name
and,
of
course,
the
owner
who
put
forward
that
that
recommendation
or
that
program
and
then
over
to
the
right.
You
can
see
our
totals
so
the
section
total
and
so
that
top
bubble
that
shows
the
125
000
amount.
C
C
C
This
breaks
down
those
recommendations
and
provides
a
little
bit
more
description,
so
hoping
that
council
members,
council
members
had
an
opportunity
to
read
through
and
think
you
know,
if
there's
any
blocking
concerns
about
any
of
these
programs
I'm
throwing
this
back
up
as
promised
just
a
reminder
of
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
approve
today
is
just
those
allocation
amounts
to
the
treatment,
prevention
and
additional
areas
categories
and
not
yet
the
project
areas.
C
All
right,
so,
let's
dive
into
our
actual
exercise,
so
we
want
to
start
with
a
reminder
of
the
funds
that
we're
working
with
so
our
total
for
year,
One
funds
comes
to
one
million,
six
hundred
and
fifty
six
thousand
three
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
the
way
that
we
broke
this
down
and
again.
This
was
a
process
that
a
priority
prioritization
process
that
our
opioid
operations
group
took
on
was
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
allocated
to
recovery
programs.
C
So
that
said,
I'm
gonna
pause
and
give
you
a
little
idea
of
the
process
here.
I
know
these
slides
are
dense,
so
bear
with
me.
I'll
I'll,
walk
us
through
these,
and
just
sort
of
you
know
give
a
high
level
summary
of
the
program
description.
So
you
know
give
your
eyes
a
little
bit
of
a
break
from
trying
to
read
through
it
with
me.
I
will
go
through
these
one
section
at
a
time,
so
I'll
pause
after
the
treatment
section
and
ask
any
blocking
questions,
concerns
Etc
and
I'll.
C
So,
starting
with
our
treatment
programs,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
minimize
my
Zoom
speaker
panels,
so
I
can
see
my
full
slide
here.
So,
starting
with
our
treatment
programs,
the
first
step
was
the
jail
map
program
and
really
this
was
the
the
program
description
is
to
sustain
the
delivery
of
medication,
assisted
treatment,
that's
currently
offered
in
the
jail,
so
there
is
insufficient
funding
to
continue
the
program
for
the
full
year.
The
JL
mat
program
is
comprehensive.
It
offers
assessment
planning,
individual
and
group
therapy.
C
So
one
thing
I
will
also
point
out-
should
have
done
this
at
the
beginning
there,
but
so
we
have
a
new
column
that
was
additional.
It
was
not
reflected
in
the
original
supplemental
package
that
went
out
to
council
members,
but
we
did
want
to
show
how
the
original
five
approved
purpose
areas
were
folded
into
the
three
approved
use
areas
so
over
on
the
right
that
original,
approved
purpose
area
is
just
where
this
program
originally
was
categorized
when
we
were
working
across
that
that
spectrum
of
five
approved
purpose
areas.
C
So
our
next,
our
next
treatment
program
is
the
cope
program,
the
County's
comprehensive
opioid
abuse
program.
This
is
offered
by
Community
Justice
Services
in
the
jail
and
it
partners
with
the
map
program
above
to
provide
medication,
assisted
treatment
and
support
or
treatment
support
to
the
medication
component.
This
is
an
existing
program
that
provides
case
management
to
opioid
users,
the
rewind
program
this
proposition
was
to
or
excuse
me,
this
proposal
was
to
expand
the
city
of
longmont's
rewind
program
by
adding
an
additional
bilingual
FTE
licensed
addiction
counselor.
C
This
is
a
program
for
youth
that
have
been
charged
with
violating
the
long
Municipal
ordinance
rewind
specializes
in
meeting
the
needs
of
Youth
with
mental
health
and
substance
use
concerns.
The
goal
is
to
address
delinquent
Behavior
informally
in
the
community
to
prevent
subsequent
offending
the
lead
program.
C
Did
I
hear
a
question:
come
up,
no
okay,
the
lead
program.
So
the
description
of
the
lead
program
really
seeking
to
expand
an
already
existing
lead
program
by
adding
an
additional
community
outreach
intervention
position.
This
position
will
connect
with
community
members
or
connect
community
members
to
community-based
resources.
The
initiative
will
support
ongoing
work
by
building
infrastructure
to
support
linking
Community
Partners
with
people.
C
And
I
think
we
have
three
slides
dedicated
to
our
treatment
program,
so
so
next
up
is
our
opioid
case
manager.
The
program
description
is
that
this
is
really
to
expand
a
currently
half-time
opioid
case
manager
position
that's
located
in
the
jail.
The
the
offer
is
to
to
make
this
a
full-time
position
restart
studio.
So
the
program
description
is
to
sustain
restart
Studio
program,
restart
Studio
offers
substance,
use,
art
therapy
and
Recovery
support
to
youth.
C
There
are
licensed
art,
therapists
and
addiction,
counselors,
providing
counseling
to
youth,
who
have
had
police
contact
next
up,
Community
Health
worker.
So
this
program
is
to
expand
the
mental
Mental
Health
Partners
Community
Health
worker
program
by
adding
an
additional
FTE
Community
Health
worker.
The
program
is
really
to
address
social
determinants
of
health
challenges
for
priority
populations.
C
These
chws
bring
resources
and
services
to
where
community
members
are
currently.
This
program
offers
individual
support
through
resource
navigation
web-based
and
in-person
Outreach
psycho-education
events
and
Disaster
Response
the
leaf
mental
wellness
and
addiction
recovery
program.
So
the
proposal
is
to
expand
Lion's,
Leaf
mental
wellness
and
addiction
recovery
program
with
additional
staff.
This
program
will
include
substance,
use
disorder,
counseling,
Telehealth,
in-person,
in-person
groups,
medication,
assisted
treatment,
coordination
and
case
and
referral
management.
These
services
will
be
available
in
lions
and
neighboring
Mountain
communities,
pride
and
recovery.
C
So
the
proposal
is
to
sustain
out
Boulder
County's
pride
and
recovery
programs.
Pride
and
Recovery
offers
lgbtq
specific
peer-led
substance
use
recovery,
support,
including
recovery,
coaching
recovery,
focused
activities,
groups
geared
towards
harm
reduction
and
relapse
prevention,
as
well
as
access
to
harm
reduction
supplies
contains
contingency
management
and
transportation
assistance.
C
And
our
last
set
of
treatment-based
programs,
oops
Got,
a
duplicate
there,
pride
and
recovery,
so
I'll
move
down
to
the
next
one.
Adventure
recovery
expand
Adventure,
expand
Adventure
recovery
program
through
a
scholarship
fund.
This
program
is
an
outdoor
education
and
mentorship
focused
program,
helping
individuals
in
recovery,
some
from
substance
use
disorder
and
mental
health
concerns
such
as
employ
certified
peer
counselors
who
work
on
a
one-on-one,
one-on-one
basis
providing
counseling
and
emotional
support,
foreign
accudetox
and
ACU
Wellness.
So
the
proposal
is
to
sustain
natural
highs,
acudetox
Accu,
wellness
program.
C
This
program
is
an
acupuncture
protocol
to
treat
addiction,
trauma
and
mental
health
issues
and
finally
matte
Expansion
Project.
So
the
proposal
is
to
expand
Mental
Health
Partners
mat
program,
adding
additional
staff
that
will
increase
access
to
an
engagement
with
mat.
Other
services
include
therapy
wraparound
services
such
as
housing
navigation.
The
project
will
expand
services
to
other
locations
in
other
locations
in
Boulder
County,
so
I'm
going
to
pause
there
and
see
if
there
are
any
initial
questions,
concerns
about
the
treatment
programs
that
I
just
went
through.
G
Hey
Kelly,
it's
Susan,
I,
just
I
first
want
to
acknowledge
again
how
much
work
went
into
this
and
just
with
a
team.
That's
leading
this.
It's
just
incredible
detail.
Thank
you
as
I
read
through
the
materials
and
thinking
about
the
last
meeting,
I
think
that
thing
I'm
I'm
struggling
with
a
little
bit,
is
how
how
are
some
of
these
connected
and
if
we're
successful
in
some
areas,
is
it
going
to
impact
other
areas?
G
Is
it
going
to
impact
people
moving
into
other
areas
and
reduce
a
need
in
other
areas,
so
I
think
there's
just
this
larger
picture
that
I
feel
like
I'm,
missing
I.
Think
that
that's
one
of
my
questions
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
narrative
around
that
or
if
you
all
talked
about
that
that
piece
at
all
that
that's
just
my
I
think
my
first
question
about
it.
Yeah.
C
You
know
I,
think
we
mentioned
in
our
first
meeting
that
our
strategy
in
this
period
of
time
was
largely
largely
driven
by
the
fact
that
we
had
sort
of
a
short
lead
time,
and
so
we
had
a
strategy
of
shovel
ready
programs.
That
was,
you
know,
sort
of
driven
by
that
that
time
constraint,
and
so
what
the
opioid
operations
group
is
going
to
be
dedicating
themselves
to
moving
forward,
is
developing
an
entirely
different
funding
strategy.
C
That
looks
at
you
know
again
that
Vision
State,
what's
the
Continuum
we
want
to
create,
and
how
are
we
being
strategic
about
what
we're
selecting
to
build
that
Continuum
and
similarly
over
time?
How
and,
and
you
know,
what's
our
method
to
revisit
what
the
the
programs
that
we
are
funding
to
determine
you
know,
are
they
having
a
measurable
impact
against
that
vision
and
if
not,
what
is
our
method
to
maybe
Sunset
funding
for
some
of
these
programs
to
allow
additional
funding
to
free
up
for
more
of
those
aspirational
programs
that
might
better
suit
that
Vision?
C
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
in
our
sustainability
approach,
which
is
just
you
know,
what's
our?
How
are
we
going
to
continue
to
fold
in
new
programs
that
really
build
that
that
broader
puzzle
and
and
move
away
from
just
sort
of
this,
this
time
crunch
strategy
of
shovel
ready
programs?
C
G
Helpful
thanks
that
was
part
of
my
second
question
just
around
evaluation,
so
I
recall
that,
from
the
last
meeting
of
talking
about
some
evaluation
component
of
these,
these
programs
and
I
think
I.
Just
I
just
want
to
name
that.
Historically,
we
have
not
always
been
great
about
making
decisions
to
stop
things
when
they
may
not
be
working
and
so
I
think
just
as
a
whole,
not
just
around
these
dollars.
I
think
us
kind
of
developing
that
muscle
around
it.
G
If,
if
things
aren't
working,
we
do
need
to
be
able
to
let
go
of
them.
I
know
it's
hard
because
sometimes
there's
people
attached,
you
know
if
we're
not
doing
it
through
attrition.
There
are
staff
attached
to
that
I.
Just
you
know.
Some
of
this
I
just
have
to
say
seeing
the
big
list
of
this.
Some
of
it
makes
me
a
little
bit
nervous
without
having
that
more
kind
of
comprehensive
view
of
how
this
all
fits
together
and
some
of
the
dependencies
of
those.
G
But
but
thanks
for
answering
my
questions,
Kelly
appreciate
it.
C
F
I
just
wanted
to
as
we're
talking
through
all
of
these
I
just
want
to
double
down
on
that
previous
comment
and
appreciate
Susan
you're,
bringing
that
up
and
I
know,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
data
as
well
like
I,
I,
think
these
are
fine
as
they
move
forward,
particularly
for
that
shovel
Readiness
that
you
mentioned
Kelly
I,
think
that's
great,
but
we're
we're
supportive
of
programs.
I.
Think
generally,
we'll
all
need
to
sort
of
see
how
do
we
share
the
data
to
make
sure
that
we're
seeing
those
impacts?
F
Frankly,
some
of
them
across
jurisdictions,
because
where
the
county
may
have
a
program,
for
example,
how
do
I
share
out
with
my
council
members
on
Council?
How
that
impacts,
Boulder
right,
so
I
think
we.
We
got
to
continue
to
think
about
that
data
sharing
and
tracking
in
the
future,
but
get
and
appreciate
the
operations
team
focus
on
what
do
we
have
right
now
in
the
short
turn
around
foreign.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
I
think
you
know.
One
of
the
things
that
we'll
probably
touch
on
in
the
administrative
section
of
today's
agenda
is
what
does
it
look
like
to
dedicate
some
funds
towards
that
monitoring
and
evaluation
piece
as
an
administrative
component?
C
So
we've
heard
loud
and
clear
from
the
state
and
from
the
example
of
other
settlement
regions
that
they
are
dedicating
some
of
their
settlement
funds
specifically
to
that
component,
to
staff
or
to
contractors
who
are
really
charged
with
marrying
that
that
Vision
that
the
region
has
to
you
know
the
impact
of
what
they're
funding.
C
So
hearing
no
additional
questions
on
treatment,
programs
I
will
move
into
the
prevention
section.
So
our
first
program
on
prevention
go
ahead
and
minimize
my
menu
here
again,
so
I
can
read
it
Youth
and
recovery.
So
this
program
is
Youth
and
Recovery.
School
programs
with
expand
the
youth
and
recovery
program
in
schools
with
additional
staff.
Youth
and
Recovery
offers
in-school
presentations
about
Fentanyl
and
oud
naloxone
training
and
offers
peer
recovery.
Coaches
parenting
support.
C
So
the
proposition
to
is
to
expand
the
city
of
longmont's,
nurturing
parenting
class
coordinators
hours
to
become
full-time,
that
expanded
staff
will
allow
active
parenting
and
Community
reinforcement
and
family
training
or
craft
to
be
offered
free
of
charge
in
English
and
Spanish
substance
use.
Advisory,
Group,
The
Proposal
is
to
expand
and
sustain
the
Boulder
County
substance
use
Advisory
Group,
which
sits
in
Boulder
County
Community
Services.
This
group
brings
together
professionals
Advocates
and
those
with
life
experience
of
addiction
to
collaborate
within
the
sud
care.
C
Slides
don't
want
to
advance
here
there
we
go
additional
prevention
programs,
harm
reduction
coordinator,
so
the
proposition
or
the
proposal
is
to
sustain
the
Boulder
County
public
Health's
harm
reduction
coordinator
position,
the
community
Narcan
web,
so
the
The
Proposal
is
to
create
a
county-wide
web
of
naloxone
distribution,
Education
and
Training
for
priority
populations
across
all
municipalities.
C
Current
infrastructure
is
supportive
for
adults
to
have
training
and
to
obtain
naloxone,
but
there's
not
one
for
youth,
so
specific
efforts
would
include
youth,
naloxone
access
and
education,
as
well
as
train
the
trainer
models
dedicated
towards
youth
population
harm
reduction
staff
at
crisis
center.
So
the
program
would
expand
harm
reduction
efforts
at
mhp's
crisis
center
and
embed
a
full-time
staff
member
from
the
works
at
the
MHP
crisis
center.
C
During
key
times,
Mental
Health
Partners
has
been
asking
for
the
for
the
position
and
The
Works
programs
sees
it
as
a
very
pressing
need
overdose
prevention,
vending
machines.
So
the
description
is
to
install
vending
machines
with
harm
reduction
supplies
in
Lafayette
and
Netherland.
Currently,
these
vending
machines
don't
exist
county-wide.
This
would
increase
access
to
life-saving
naloxone,
clean
syringes
and
other
harm
reduction
supplies.
C
Harm
reduction
supplies
and
servicing
the
program
would
expand,
availability
of
harm
reduction
supplies,
overdose,
reversal,
medication
and
syringe
disposal
locations.
This
would
bolster
The,
Works
programs,
supply
of
naloxone
and
Fentanyl
test
strips
that
can
be
distributed
throughout
the
county.
This
would
also
insult
install
syringe
disposal
units
in
each
of
the
Longmont
housing
authorities,
sites,
I,
believe.
That's
it
for
prevention,
so
I
will
pause
again
and
see
if
there's
questions
or
concerns
about
the
list
of
prevention
programs.
C
All
right,
so
our
final
set
of
proposed
programs
fall
into
the
additional
areas
category
in
the
cost
system.
So
first
up
investigation
equipment
celebrate
premium,
so
this
would
expand
law,
enforcement's,
opioid
related
interdiction
efforts
and
this
tool
unlocks
password
protected
cell
phones.
It
also
increases
the
chance
of
intercepting
drug
traffickers,
investigation
equipment,
true
narc,
so
this
tool
would
allow
or
expand
law
enforcement's
opioid
relation
opioid
related
interdiction
efforts.
This
tool
is
a
portable
narcotics
analyzer
and
increases
the
chance
of
intercepting
drug
traffickers
and
investigating
drug-related
crimes.
C
Another
investigation,
equipment,
called
gray
key
and
so
gray
key
has
the
ability
to
unlock
and
retrieve
data,
specifically
from
iPhones,
increasing
the
chance
of
intercepting
drug
traffickers
into
investigating
drug-related
crimes
and
identifying
individuals
in
od
related
cases
and
finally,
Community
Health
worker
training,
and
so
the
proposal
is
to
expand
Mental
Health
Partners,
current
community
health
workers,
training
related
to
addiction,
Outreach
and
prevention.
This
additional
staff
will
ensure
sustainability
of
addiction-based,
Outreach
expertise
and
capacity
to
reach
Target
populations.
C
F
Was
I
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
go
back
to
the
previous
slide
a
moment,
and
so
just
wanna
I
guess
I'd
want
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
safeguards
for
some
of
this
law
enforcement
work
and
not
that
I,
don't
a
supportive
of
generally
the
efforts,
but
I
know
that
I
will
get
questions
about.
How
do
we
know
that
it
is
limited
restricted?
F
D
It's
Joe
Pelley,
it's
protected
by
the
Fourth
Amendment.
It's
it
requires
a
search
warrant.
So
that's
the
protection
is
constitutional
and
it's
there's
case
law
and
in
many
many
years
of
of
constitutional
layers,
of
protection
built
into
the
use
of
these
sort
of
search
engines
or
search
tools.
F
And
I
appreciate
that
Joe,
and
certainly
as
a
lawyer,
myself
right,
like
I,
get
the
Fourth
Amendment,
but
there
are
nuances
with
that
with
any
of
this,
that
and
and
what
other
partners
I
mean
I'm
sure
you
were
paying
attention,
but
Lord
knows
I
had
a
earful
about
just
the
jttf
agreement
that
we
put
forward
with
our
own
Council
right.
So
you
know,
I
I
still
feel
like
I
want
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
some
of
these
efforts
and
I.
F
You
know,
I
may
be
the
only
person
that
has
these
concerns,
but
I
I
feel
like
there's
more
to
this
before
I
can
give
a
nod
of
yes
to
to
certainly
understand
a
little
bit
more
of
who
else
would
have
access
what
other
purpose
could
they
be
used
for
if
we
are
putting
opioid
related
dollars
to
it,
but
certainly
for
the
on
its
face.
Am
supportive
I
just
need
to
have
more
details.
B
And
Nuria
this
is
Robin
and
I
want
to
remind
the
council,
and-
and
this
was
a
struggle
that
I've
been
having
as
well
as
your
vote
today,
is
going
to
agree
with
the
overall
area
allocations.
B
F
D
The
other
thing
I
would
offer
you
have
Boulder
police
officers
embedded
in
our
drug
task
force,
which
is
where
these
tools
would
exist
and
I
I
would
invite
you
to
come
over
and
meet
with
them
and
have
them
explain
to
you
and
show
to
you
how
they're
used
when
they're
used
and
how
that
data
is
stored.
G
C
Yeah
and
so
I
I'm,
not
as
familiar
with
this
program
but
I
I,
do
know
that
there
were
they
were
sort
of
parsed
out,
because
the
training
is
a
specific,
evidence-based
training
and
so
there's
sort
of
a
set
curriculum
and
sort
of
a
set
sort
of
timeline
that
that
staff
would
be
going
through
that
and
then
I
think
that
the
other
one
that
you
mentioned,
the
actual
position
is
just
sort
of
like
the
end
piece
of
that
puzzle
where
they
would
then
take
an
individual
and
sort
of
staff
that
position
of
of
trained
chw,
so
I
know,
there's
other
team
members
on
the
phone.
C
G
Yeah,
that
would
that
would
just
be.
My
question
is
what,
if
you,
if
you're
hiring
a
staff
position
to
conduct
the
training?
What
is
the
money
for
the
training
unless
they
have
to
pay
for
the
training
I'm?
Just
not,
they
have
to
pay
to
use
the
training.
I,
just
I'm,
not
clear
what
what
that
money
would
be
used
for
yeah.
C
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
articulate
that
well,
but
that
is
what
it
would
be
for
they
have
to
pay
for
that
training,
I
think
it's
it's
either
a
state
or
a
national
curriculum
and
a
training,
that's
sort
of
a
package
together,
and
so
that
that's
what
the
funding
would
be
for.
Yeah,
okay,
great.
E
Kelly
I
can
jump
in
for
a
second
too,
that
the
training
is
substance,
use
specific
training
for
the
team
of
community
health
workers
and
then
the
FTE
requests
with
to
add
an
additional
community
health
health
worker
to
the
the
team.
But
the
training
itself
was
to
expand
the
current
team,
which
I
believe
was
seven
employees.
Their
ability
to
address
substance
use
concerns
in
the
community.
A
So
and
then
I
think
my
my
hand
is
the
last
hand
up
and
and
I
had
raised
my
hand
earlier
and
then
put
it
down
when,
when
nor
Nuria
addressed
the
concern
that
I
have
and
so
I
think,
even
though
we
may
have
the
Fourth
Amendment
to
protect,
you
know
to
put
some
guard
rails
on
access
to
the
information
that
gray
key
and
celebrate
will
make
possible.
A
A
We
are
going
to
have
to
be
very
careful
about
how
this
is
how
this
is
messaged
out
and
I'm
gonna
need
to
understand
it
actually
a
little
bit
better
about
how
once
you
unlock
the
phone,
how
what
are
the
constraints
and
I
know
in
the
world
of
search
warrants
and
wiretaps,
and
things
like
that
back
in
the
80s
and
90s,
when
I
was
doing
this
kind
of
stuff.
You
know
you
just
had
to
not
listen
to
the
stuff.
A
You
weren't
supposed
to
listen
to
It's
a
little
harder
in
the
digital
age,
and
so
I
think
we
are
just
gonna
have
to
be
very,
very
careful
with
the
community,
though,
to
make
sure
they
understand
the
constraints
here
and,
and
then
just
in
terms
of
you
know
what
our
scope
is
today,
that
we're
just
approving
the
program
areas
we
I
as
I
understand.
We
really
don't
have
any
other
programs.
A
Programs
that
are
on
the
table,
and
so
I
think
that's
why
you
know
we're
looking
at
this
list
and
we'll
come
back
and
we'll
fine-tune
it
in
terms
of
actual
dollars,
but
I
think
as
we
go
forward.
We
should
assume
that
these
these
areas,
these
programs
that
are
we've
just
been
reviewing,
are
going
to
be
the
ones
that
will
be
funded
within
each
of
these
areas.
B
And
so
Kelly,
can
you
remind
us
about
the
difference
between
these
five
areas
and
then
we're
we're
really
approving
three
areas?
Is
that
right
or
do
I
have
that
backwards?.
C
Correct
yeah,
so
the
five
approved
purpose
areas
were
what
was
originally
put
out
by
the
attorney
general,
and
so
that
was
sort
of
the
the
foundation
that
our
group
started.
Developing
our
recommendations
around
and
then
about
a
month
ago,
maybe
a
little
bit
longer.
C
The
AG
put
out
the
online
system
that
we
have
to
put
our
recommendations
into
and
that
system
only
had
three
categories,
which
are
the
treatment,
prevention
and
additional
use
areas,
and
so
what
we
did
is
took
all
of
our
recommendations
and
sort
of
went
through
that
cost
system,
making
sure
that
they
were
all
reflected
in
some
sort
of
sub
category
within
those
three
areas
and
we
sort
of
meshed
them
or
married
them
into
the
cost
categories.
C
B
And
do
we
have
a
I,
don't
want
to
put
anyone
on
the
spot,
but
do
we
have
a
newly
configured
pie
chart
that
would
have
just
a
three,
so
we
can
understand
how
those
fund
amounts
were
collapsed,
given
that
that's
what
we're
going
to
have
to
approve
today.
C
B
So,
council,
members
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
wants
to
reflect
on
how
those
dollars
are
allocated
across
the
three
areas.
Obviously
the
majority
of
our
funding
is
for
treatment
and
then
prevention
and
then
the
all
others.
B
So
if
anyone
would
like
to
comment
on
those
before
we
vote
or
or
we
can
also
move
into
what's
missing
or
do
you
have
what
we're
calling
blocking
concerns
like,
like
the
conversation
we
just
had,
there
may
be
blocking
concerns
for
the
program
specific,
but
for
these
resource
allocations,
just
wondering
if
people
have
any
Reflections
on
on
how
the
allocations
were
divided
between
the.
K
D
Yeah
I
did
make
some
comments.
I
I
understand
completely
the
importance
of
treatment
and
the
balance
of
the
treatment
dollars.
I
also
believe
that
a
portion
of
this
is
properly
allocated
to
investigating
the
distribution
of
the
of
the
stuff,
so
but
I
don't
have
any
blocking
concerns.
I
would
vote
for
the
allocation,
as
it's
laid
out
today.
G
Yeah
I,
don't
have
any
real
concerns,
I
think
it's
you
know,
I
think
we
talked
about
this
last
time,
I
think
in
the
future
years
here,
I
think
being
able
to
really
think
about
kind
of
a
fiscal
model
of
of
when
we
start
to
see
positive
outcomes
in
certain
areas.
G
Would
love
to
to
put
in
a
parking
lot
around
a
flexible
pool
of
flexible
funds
for
families
that
are
that
are
going
through
some
of
this
I
I
do
like
the
idea
of
some
direct
support
for
families
that
that
have
dealt
with
this,
but
I
don't
have
any
concerns
otherwise
at
all
and
that
those
weren't
even
concerns
they
were
just
suggestions
for
the
future
got.
M
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
on
the
same
page,
what
we
are
approving
today
is
the
allocation
of
the
dollars
into
these
three
particular
areas
and
we're
doing
approximately
a
million
dollars
to
its
treatment.
Approximately
half
a
million
dollars
to
its
prevention
and
125
000
approximately
to
its
additional
use
areas,
yeah.
B
B
I
I,
you
know
again,
I
really
pre
appreciate
everyone's
understanding
about
where
we
are
in
this
space
and
time
with
regard
to
shovel
ready
projects
and
the
work
that
our
staff
teams
did
to.
First
of
all,
take
an
inventory
and
then
really
reduce
that
inventory
to
you
know
a
workable
number
and
then
do
the
math
problem
of
figuring
out
the
allocations.
B
So
we're
not
done
this
is
just
the
very
very
beginning
and
and
your
comments
that
you're
bringing
up
today,
that's
where
the
real
work
will
happen
is
really
understanding.
What
what
are
we
changing
in
our
community
with
these
Investments?
And
how
do
we
evaluate
it?
B
What
are
the
outcomes
that
we're
seeing
and
what's
the
domino
effect
of
those
outcomes,
and
it
will
have
to
be
iterative
learning
as
we
see
what's
working
and
what's
not
working
as
well
as
what
we
see
with
the
with
the
epidemic
right,
because
we
know
that
there's
been
increased
use
and
so
there'll
be
lots
of
factors
to
consider
moving
forward
and
lots
of
good
good
opportunity
for
these
sorts
of
discussions,
and
we
really
appreciate
your
your
engagement.
A
So
I
don't
have
any
concerns
about
these.
These
allocations,
as
just
reflecting
our
first
year
priorities
and
the
input
that
we
received
and
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
focus
right
now
on
travel,
ready
projects.
So
we
can
put
these
funds
to
work.
I
think
the
the
real
interesting
discussion
will
come
when
we
look
at
what
else
we
need
to
do.
That
is
going
to
change
the
landscape.
This
you
know
yes,
we're
looking
at
prevention
here
in
education,
but
you
know
with
the
crisis
that
we
have
right
now.
A
A
You
know
backing
way
up
into
what
makes
a
person
vulnerable
to
addiction
or,
to
you
know,
starting
the
years
and
what
are
the
signals
in
society?
What
is
reports
that
they're
lacking?
How
do
we?
A
How
do
we
work
in
conjunction
with
the
behavioral
health
treatment
providers,
because
so
often
it's
co-occurring
and
you
can't
address
the
substance,
use
disorder
without
also
addressing
the
behavioral
health
problems,
and
so
I'm
I
think
I'm
real
excited
to
to
get
to
the
next
phase
of
the
conversation
also
to
see
how
we
can
really
go
beyond
addressing
the
the
immediate
needs
and
and
the
constraints
of
shovel
ready
projects.
B
A
Well,
I
think
what
we
should
do:
yeah
I
I-
guess
it's
my
job
to
actually
bring
us
to
that
that
vote,
that
we'll
need
to
move
forward.
I
think
the
easiest
way
is
for
people
to
use
the
hand,
raise
function
to
indicate
their
support
and
and
then
we
can
just
announce
the
results
of
that.
So
it
all.
Those
in
support,
please
do
use
the
raise
hands
function,
indicate
your
support.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
judge
cocky,
so
I
see
one
two,
three
four,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
and
then
with
judge
Baki.
We
have
ten
and
I
think
that
is
all
of
the
voting
members.
So
we
do
have
unanimous
support
and
thank
you
very
much.
C
The
slide
forward-
yes,
I,
was
just
gonna,
say
it
looks
like
we're
ready
to
move
ahead
here,
so
we
did
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
today.
Talking
about
what
our
process
looks
like
moving
forward,
a
lot
of
which
we've
already
sort
of
dipped
our
toe
into
by
talking
about
what
we
want,
what
we
hope
to
see
and
what
the
process
looks
like
moving
forward.
C
C
C
In
terms
of
you
know,
certain
projects
needing
a
little
bit
more
information,
but
really
just
want
to
hear
additional
thoughts
on
you
know
where
and
when
the
the
council
would
feel
comfortable
process
wise
recommend.
Your
excuse
me
approving
that
project
level,
fund
allocation.
C
D
I
was
just
this
is
Joe
Kelly,
the
sheriff
I
was
going
to
suggest
it
seemed
to
the
questions
or
the
concerns
did
center
around
the
enforcement
piece
and
I
would
be
willing
to
have
a
group
of
folks
present,
including
a
county
attorney
and
Nico
the
commander
of
the
unit
on
process
and
to
answer
questions
that
type
of
thing.
If
that
would
be
helpful,.
D
Some
of
these
things
too,
I
want
to
point
out,
like
the
map
program
at
the
jail
is
not
statutory.
It's
required,
so
we're
mandated
to
have
that
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
was
reflected
in
the
notes,
but
I
think
that's
a
great
piece
of
information
for
people
to
have
as
well.
B
A
A
A
I
know.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
the
the
data
after
the
funding
and
how
we're
going
to
look
at
that,
but
maybe
some
history
on
the
the
recipient.
What
their
track
record
is
longevity,
what
their
practices
are
on
being
Fidelity,
you
know
being
faithful
to
to
the
the
evidence
that
sort
of
thing
just
to
you
know
know
that
we
are
actually
funding
evidence-based
programs
and
that
there
is
a
high
degree
of
fidelity
on
that.
Just.
B
Thank
you,
Claire
Harold
and.
M
Similar
to
what
Claire's
I
think
I
just
need
more
depth
in
the
information
to
really
understand
what
questions
I
may
have
and
it
gets
to
the
so.
What
so
we're
we're
asking
for
this
and
I'll
use
the
city
of
Longmont
programs
I,
understand
and
have
more
depth
of
knowledge
into
it,
but
if
I
didn't
my
question
would
be
so
what
do
you
want
to
do?
What
do
you
want
to
accomplish
with
this?
What
are
you,
what
are
you
you
know?
How
many
clients
are
you
going
to
add
to
the
mix?
C
M
Addition,
that's
just
one
element,
so
you
know
I
guess.
The
best
example
is
when
I
go
through
my
internal
budget
reviews
I'm
asking
what's
the
outcome,
what
are
you
already
doing?
How
many
people
are
you
serving
in
you
know?
Is
this
an
incremental
impact?
Are
we
having
a
tangible
impact
in
terms
of
what
we're
doing
it's
but
I
just
don't
know
what
questions
to
ask,
because
the
information
is
limited.
B
So
Kelly
I'm
wondering
if
the
operations
group
you
know
we
have
not
done
an
RFP
process.
So
it's
not
like
people
put
in
a
proposal
with
that
level
of
detail.
Has
the
operations
group
talked
about?
Will
that
be
part
of
the
process
or
or
how
will
we
get
this
level
of
detail
for
the
rock
to
be
able
to
vote
it's
sort
of
like
a
funding
board
right.
C
Yeah
I
don't
think
that
we've
talked
specifically
about
those
particular
pieces,
but
we
have
held
space
and
recognized
that
there
might
be
some
additional
content
about
the
programs
that
the
council
would
want
to
see
and
so
I
think
that
we
are
prepared
to.
You
know
we're
in
contact,
obviously
with
all
of
the
the
program,
administrators
and
folks
that
put
forward
their
proposals,
and
so
you
know
throughout
this
process
we
have
asked
for
a
little
bit
more
meat
and
depth
about
their
details
about
their
programs
and
I.
B
M
J
Okay,
so
Robin
I'm
thinking
that,
since
in
some
way
we're
going
to
have
to
develop
a
contract
with
anything
that
we
fund,
we
could
come
up
with
a
standard
kind
of
proposal,
format
and
budget
template
and
have
organizations
that
have
requested
funding
to
fill
that
out.
So
that
we've
got
a
little
bit
more
depth
and
then
the
the
those
can
be
reviewed
by
Brock
members
in
preparation
for
making
final
decisions
about
what
the
dollar
amounts
would
be.
J
It's
crazy
just
so
so
folks
know
in
terms
of
the
timeline
here.
So,
given
that
we've
approved
the
general
funding
allocation
amounts,
we
can
now
submit
that
information
to
the
state,
but
the
state's
going
to
take
about
a
month,
maybe
a
little
bit
longer
to
actually
approve.
So
we've
got
time
in
between
our
submission
and
actual
access
to
the
funds
which
would
allow
us
to
go
through
these
projects
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
to
examine
them
and
make
decisions
about.
J
Does
the
funding
change?
Do
the
expectations
that
we
need
to
see
change?
Do
they
get
polled?
Do
we
add
more
money
to
them?
So
there's
a
variety
of
recommendations
that
we
that
The
Rock
members
can
make
related
to
a
given
proposal.
F
I
just
wanted
to
concur
with
Harold
that
that
a
little
more
depth
and
I
don't
mean
a
deep
dive
right,
because
we
don't
want
to
make
this
too
onerous
to
what's
happening
and
and
I
and
would
be
helpful
and
it
will
differ
between
who's
asking
for
money.
So,
for
example,
to
use
you
Harold
I
hope
you
don't
mind
as
an
example
right
like
if
you've
got
that
one
extra
bilingual
coordinator.
F
What
have
you
been
your
outcomes
generally
before
and
how
would
that
increase
right
is
just
helpful
without
having
to
know
all
the
details
of
of
everything
there
and
if
it
were,
somebody
new
I,
think
to
Claire's
comment
earlier.
We'd
want
to
make
sure
if
it's
somebody
who's
getting
new
funding.
That's
a
new
organization
like
you
know
how
I
wouldn't
ask
this
of
a
city,
but
I
might
ask
that
of
a
new
non-profit.
That
is
just
form
like
you
know.
F
How
are
you
set
up
for
Success
like
what
are
what
are
some
of
perhaps
the
details
of?
Are
you
a
successful
organization
as
we
move
forward?
Do
we
know
that
our
money
is
going
to
be
well
spent
and
that's
a
slightly
different
question
that
I
would
have
to
a
city?
F
F
It
doesn't
mean
it
all
has
to
be
successful
right
because
we'll
learn,
if
it's
not
through
the
evaluation
process,
we'll
learn
if
it's
not
and
we'll
stop
funding
it,
but
at
least
that
it
is
set
up
for
success
in
the
way
that
we're
thinking
about
these
projects.
B
Thank
you
Kelly,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
the
majority
of
the
projects,
the
shovel
ready
projects
are,
are
projects
that
are
already
happening
and
are
either
vulnerable
to
losing
funding
or
they
want
to
expand
with
additional
funding.
Is
that
correct,
yeah?
That's
correct.
F
Yeah
and
and
I
think
you
put
some
of
that
in
the
recommendations.
I
thought
that
was
super
useful
as
well
as
Joe's
earlier
comment
about
what
things
are
statutorily
required
or
not,
because
then
that
kind
of
makes
a
different
kind
of
decision.
So
those
kind
of
I
think
nuances.
I
would
be
really
helpful
to
me
yeah.
Thank
you.
M
Rob
and
I
had
my
hand
up
again
and
I
think
you
know
for
me,
it's
a
relatively
simple
concept,
but
it's
who?
What
when,
where
why
and
then
what's
the
impact
or
the
significance
that
I
tend
to
look
for,
because
that's
a
quick
and
dirty
way
to
get
it
and
and
then
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
and
I
know
we're
going
to
talk
about
program
evaluation
later.
B
D
Yeah,
sorry
about
that,
would
you
please
include
Curtis
Johnson
on
this
future
invitation
so
that
he
can
get
oriented
to
what
we're
doing
and
then
continue
that
work
next
year.
You.
B
B
A
K
Thanks
I
know
that
there
was
a
question
on
the
table
about
whether
administrative
support
and
costs
would
be
provided
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that
needed
to
be
part
of
our
discussion
today
or
not.
C
And
I
did-
and
we
do
have
that
in
the
last
section
of
our
agenda
today,
we
do
know
that
up
to
10
of
our
allocation
is
allowable
for
administrative
costs.
We
just
got
confirmation
on
that
from
the
state
today.
B
All
right,
so
in
our
last
20
minutes
we
have
a
few
agenda
items.
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
how
we're
going
to
determine
what
will
sustain
versus
what
will
drop
off
and
planning
for
new
Investments
Lauren
did
you
did
you
have
other
more
need
for
that?
Subject:
area
to
to
go.
C
Good,
no,
not
really.
We
just
wanted
to
mention
that
we
had
heard
that
that
concern
come
true
loud
and
clear,
both
in
our
September
Rock
and
then
also
today,
and
so
we
did
have
a
preliminary
approach
to
approach
the
subject
with
our
operations
group
on
Monday
we've
done
some
work
to
already
parse
through
our
shovel
ready
programs
and
figure
out
are
any
of
them.
Just
a
one-time
funding
need
versus
which
are
ongoing.
C
Most
of
them
are
ongoing
funding
needs,
and
so
the
conversation
shifts
to
what
we've
talked
about
today,
which
is
you
know?
How
are
we
making
sure
that
we're
measuring
monitoring
programs
against
our
intended
impact
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
mechanism
in
place
to
Sunset
programs
and
bring
on
additional
programs
that
really
align
with
that
vision?
And
so
the
last
question
was
really
just
do
council
members
have
any
additional
concerns
about
sustainability
that
they
would
want
to
have
the
operations
group
sort
of
chew
on
on
that,
at
that
Monday
meeting.
M
Yeah
and
probably
arguing
against
myself
if
I
have,
if
I'm
wearing
my
city
manager
hat
on
this
one,
but
you
know
I
think
is
what
is
what
is
the
plan?
M
You
know
because
I
almost
see
this
as
seed
money
in
some
ways
to
bring
you
know
almost
a
push
into
having
more
of
an
impact,
but
in
terms
of
municipalities
and-
and
this
is
what
I'm
going
to
look
at
internally
is
how
long
do
we
rely
on
the
ongoing
funding
and
when
is
it
our
responsibility
to
then
start
trying
to
remove
that
need
for
the
ongoing
funding
through
our
own
budget
processes?
M
So
we
can
open
up
the
door
for
other
opportunities
and
ideas
in
the
future
and
that's
how
we
treat
one
time
our
term
limited
positions.
We
start
that
way
to
see
if
it
works.
If
it
works,
then
we
start
figuring
out.
How
do
we
bring
that
back
within
our
own
budgets
so
that
we
can
create
capacity
for
other
things
and
I?
Don't
know
how
you
build
that
into
it,
but
I
think
it's
an
important
question
to
ask
a
lot
of
these
groups.
B
G
Yeah
I
think
this.
This
gets
a
little
bit
to
what
commission
Levy
was
talking
about,
but
I,
you
know,
I,
think
part
of
the
sustainability
for
me
is
being
able
to
knit
together
the
behavioral.
B
L
B
G
Do
you
want
to
go
ahead?
Yeah
sure,
thanks
so
I
think
just
that
knitting
together
of
the
two
plans
to
really
to
really
look
at
those
comprehensively
and
where
we
can
leverage
dollars-
and
you
know
I
think
just
I
know
this
will
happen,
but
full
transparency
on
the
front
end
with
people
that
we
are
funding
that
this
you
know
where
there
will
be
an
ongoing
evaluation
and
we'll
be
looking
at
really
what
what
has
positive
outcomes
and
the
need
moving
forward
and
there's
no
kind
of
guarantee
of
ongoing
funding.
G
I
know
that
sounds
obvious,
but
I,
but
I
think
it's
it's
worth
stating
again
just
that.
That's
it's
an
important
message
to
send
to
the
programs
that
we're
funding.
K
Yeah,
it's
a
similar
comment
to
Susan's
in
terms
of
just
when
we
think
about
the
evaluation,
not
just
thinking
about
evaluating
the
individual
Investments
but
understanding
how
the
collection
of
Investments
contribute
to
each
other
and
relate
to
each
other
and
reinforce
each
other.
K
So
it's
really
just
like
how
does
how
do
these
Investments
fit
within
that
bigger
that
bigger
picture,
because
I
think
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
to
make
a
decision
to
not
continue
something
without
the
unintended
consequence
of
later
recognizing
that
it
actually
had
a
domino
effect
of
affecting
a
number
of
other
spaces.
B
And
since
we're
talking
about
evaluation,
Jim
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
get
on
and
talk,
we've
had
some
preliminary
conversations
about
evaluation
and
I
think
it
relates
to
the
admin
dollars
as
well.
J
Well,
I
think
there
are
probably
two
phases
of
looking
at
the
evaluation.
The
first
is
given
that
as
Susan
relayed,
these
are
kind
of
a
scatter
shot
of
projects
that
don't
necessarily
come
to
form
a
hole.
We're
going
to
have
to
look
at
what
we
do:
evaluation
wise
on
a
more
program
by
program
basis
and
then
moving
forward,
as
we
think
more
strategically
about
how
future
dollars
are
used.
How
do
we
create
a
more
comprehensive,
targeted
or
focused
evaluation?
C
C
Absolutely-
and
this
is
the
last
thing
and
we've
already
touched
on
it-
so
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
hand
over
to
Robin.
This
is
just
what's
next
for
the
operations
group,
a
lot
of
which
has
come
up
in
the
course
of
today's
conversation,
brought
our
funders
funding
strategy
really
being
conscious
and
intentional
about
monitoring
the
effectiveness
of
the
programs
and
then
additional
voice
fusing
in
that's
kind
of
pinging
off
of
our
discussion
in
September
of
who
needs
to
additionally
be
at
the
table.
C
Oh
I
did
have
one
question,
but
I
think
that
you
know
in,
for
the
sake
of
time,
I
might
just
pass
off
to
Robin
here
to
close
us
out
with
the
admin
items.
Thank
you.
B
All
right
and
Jim
texted
me
and
said
he
lost
his
power
on
this
beautiful
fall
day.
So
we
are
standing
up
a
website
for
this
work
that
you
are
all
doing.
B
B
We
had
a
question
from
our
last
meeting
about
the
Cadence
of
the
meanings
I
heard
back
from
a
few
people
who
said
every
other
month
made
sense
and
I'm
wondering,
though,
given
the
conversation
today
about
wanting
more
project
information,
if
we
set
another
meeting
for
a
month
from
now
which
will
be
challenging
as
we
go
into
the
winter
holidays
or
if
we
want
to
take
two
months
to
prepare
for
the
presentations
of
the
specific
project,
but
then
that's
going
to
get
us
into
December
scheduling
challenges
as
well.
B
B
I
think
that's
a
really
good
good
question
Joe
and
I'm
wondering
Kelly
if
you
could
add
that
to
your
operations,
meeting
on
Monday,
I
heard
I
heard
sort
of
you
know,
there's
different
groups,
so
there
are
some
programs
that
have
been
in
the
community
for
a
while
and
we
know
about
them-
and
we
might
you
know,
have
a
template
of
questions
for
future
details
or
for
some
of
the
you
know,
the
investigative
that
might
be
more
educational
presentations
and
then
there's
going
to
be
new
new
agencies
or
new
programs
that
we
might
need
a
different
type
of
presentation
on
Kelly.
C
E
D
So
there
has
to
be
some
someone,
some
buddy,
some
group
responsible
for
determining
who's,
going
to
make
presentations
and
and
I
would
suggest.
Maybe
like
some
of
the
existing
long-time
existing
programs
may
not
require
presentation
as
much
as
new
non-profits
or
the
questions
around
the
enforcement
piece
that
Maria
and
Claire
had
just
don't
know
how
you
get
there,
but
25
presentations
and
that's
just
not
gonna
work.
D
B
H
B
G
G
G
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
think
it
was
about
yep,
additional
representation,
because
I
think
what
I'm
seeing
is
that
it's
a
pretty
different
skill
set
for
how
you
all
are
going
to
be
moving
forward
and
the
types
of
conversation
that
you're
going
to
be
happening
or
the
you
know
the
goals
that
you
have
for
that
group.
G
So
it
sounds
like
maybe
maybe
we
can
connect
or
you
all
can
connect
with
us
on
on
the
the
staff
support
that
you
might
need
the
different
skills
that
you're
looking
for
and
we
can
work
on
trying
to
create
capacity
within
our
our
departments.
D
B
B
A
Yeah
thanks
Robin,
thanks
to
everybody,
for
your
participation
here
and
respect
to
our
task,
and
we
got
it
done
and
I
I
do
appreciate
everybody's
questions
and
comments
and
I
I.
Think
we're
really
coming
together
on
this,
but
I
guess
I
would
invite.
If
anybody
else
has
anything
they
feel
they
need
to
say
before
we
before
we
end
this
meeting
I
would
I
would
invite
that
and
then
I
actually
well.
A
I
have
a
question
that
I
meant
to
ask
earlier
and
Robin.
When
you
did
your
introduction-
and
you
said
we
were
not
taking
public
comment
at
this
meeting,
and
but
could
you
lay
out
what
the
opportunities
for
public
input
will
be
as
we
go
down
the
road
just
do
that
quickly
and
then
I
would
invite
other
people
if
they
have
any
last
minute
comments
they'd
like
to
make
to
go
ahead
and
participate.
B
I
think
it's
a
great
question:
Claire
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
it.
Frankly
and
you
know
Kelly
I,
don't
know
the
operations
group
or
the
staff
team
have
had
this
conversation.
Yeah.
C
We
have
so
I
think
this
is
another
one
of
those
things
that
we
sort
of.
Unfortunately,
I,
don't
want
to
say
put
aside,
but
we
did
sort
of
make
a
lean
Avenue
for
Community
input
and
because
of
the
shovel
ready
approach
and
so
out
of
respect
for
wanting
to
to
kind
of
go
back
and
fuse
that
in
from
the
process,
moving
forward
we're
looking
at-
and
this
will
be
part
of
our
conversation
in
the
operations
group
on
the
24th.
C
What
is
our
best
practice
for
you
know,
bringing
together
more
voices
for
that
Grand,
Vision,
forming
State
and
then
also
what's
our
mechanism
for
fusing
and
Community
input
on
an
ongoing
basis,
so
I
actually
just
got
off
of
a
meeting
with
with
Jamie
Feld
who
works
closely
on
this
process
to
get
a
little
bit
more
of
an
understanding
of
best
practices
from
some
of
the
settlement
regions
that
actually
did
did
begin
their
approach
from
sort
of
that
large
scale,
Community
convening
and
then
sort
of
whittled
that
down
into
their
strategy.
C
A
Thanks
for
addressing
that,
I
think
the
public
is
interested
in
this
and
just
knowing
that
there
will
be
an
opportunity
and
at
what
level?
Where
will
it
be
and-
and
you
know,
I
recognize
that
we
do
have
the
operations
board
and
and
we're
working
with
the
community
of
group
as
well
already,
but
just
general
members
of
the
public
I'm
sure
are
very
interested
in
what
we're
doing
yeah,
Lexi
and
and
then
really
just
anybody
else.
Just
go
ahead
and
jump
in
and
we've
got
about
three
minutes.
Two
minutes.
K
Yeah
I
just
appreciate
the
question
about
how
how
does
community
voice
Factor
its
way
into
this
process
and
just
recognizing
that
in
some
ways
it
feels
like
this
opioids
work
is
part
of
the
broader
Regional
Behavioral
Health
strategy,
and
so
those
may
be
opportunities
for
us
to
to
create
focused
conversations
that
still
contribute
to
the
broader
conversation
and
help
make
connections
for
folks.
K
A
All
right:
well,
you
know
this
work,
you
know
it's
part
of
healing
and
I
I.
Think
there's
just
a
a
tremendous
feeling
of
trauma
in
our
community
and
it's
coming
from
many
many
sources
and
and
the
addiction
crisis
is,
is
one
of
them
and
it's
it's
near
the
top
of
the
list.
A
If
it's,
if
it's
not
at
the
top
of
the
list
and
our
work
is
important-
I'm
honored
to
just
be
here
on
these
screens
with
all
of
you
and
get
to
to
watch
this
great
work
happen
and
I
I
look
forward
to
getting
these
dollars
out
into
the
community
and
seeing
them
go
to
work.