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A
But
that
one
I
think
we
can
live
with
so
I'll.
We
would
rather
have
two,
but
if,
if.
A
So
the
the
main
one
that
we've
had
lots
of
discussions
on
is
related
to
the
contribution
and.
A
Oversizing
amounts
outlined
in
number
two,
so
just
a
little
bit
of
history
on
on.
A
Of
winnipeg
to
do
our
neighborhood
plan
because
we
had
to
make
amendments
to
the.
A
North
hill
secondary
plan,
at
that
time
it
took
about
roughly
a
year
and
a
half
to
two.
A
A
A
A
A
lot
faster,
which
we
had
those
discussions
during
the
process
and
kind
of
how
that.
A
A
Braycrest
and
then
to
the
assiniboine
river,
so
you
know
we
paid
a
lot
of
money
to
get
that.
A
Taken
care
of
from
that,
a
technical
memo
was
attached
to
the
the
north
hill
secondary.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Summer
august,
to
the
point
where
we
had
enough
room
on
boulevards
to
make
sure
we
had
enough
snow.
A
We
got
our
consultants
starting
to
get
the
applications
ready
and
the
designs
for
this.
A
Because
we
have
to
have
these
units
the
seven
that
we
got
funding
for
built
and
finished
by
march.
A
Of
2022.,
so
we've
been
kind
of
going
back
and
forth.
We've
been
meeting
with
the
city
a
lot.
A
A
A
A
A
We're
paying
for
a
pipe
that
I'm
not
sure
who
came
up
with
it,
but
it's
25
or
2400
millimeters.
A
Brought
up
here,
I
think
it
says
april
9th
is
when
it
was
created
and
the
first
I
saw
it.
A
So
it's
tough
to
pay
into
something.
When
you
don't
know
what
the
plan
is-
and
you
don't
know.
A
But
I
mean
that's
our
big
issue,
so
I'm
not
really
sure
how
you
resolve
that.
But.
A
A
Working
on
this
for
roughly
three
years
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
But
if
there's
any
questions,
I'm.
A
B
B
We're
in
the
season
here
I'm
sure
you
need
to
kind
of
get
going
again.
On
the
other
hand,.
B
We're
going
to
be
a
predicament
here
in
a
few
minutes
when
we
get
to
that
item
on
the.
B
B
Open
up
the
floor,
first
of
all
for
questions
of
mr
mcmillan
on
his
presentation.
Some
of
this
is.
B
A
little
technical,
so
it'll
be
hard,
probably
for
council
to
digest
sitting
here,
especially.
B
In
this
format,
but
if
I've
got
concert,
sheboy
first
so
go
ahead.
Thank
your
worship
through
the.
C
Presenter
one
question
after
you:
you
raised
concerns
about
the
size
of
the
pipe
that
you've.
C
Never
seen
in
brandon
that
they're
mentioning
in
the
cost
here
for
this
development
class.
C
What
is
the
usual
size
of
pipe
that
you
expect
to
see
on
this
in
this
program?.
A
Through
your
worship
counselor
I
mean
I'm
not
a
I'm,
not
a
civil
engineer
either,
but
just.
A
In
our
bellafield
development,
I
think
the
largest
pipe
we
had
in
there
was
maybe
a
1200.
A
Millimeter
pipe,
so
this
is
double
the
size
of
that.
The
problem
is
it's
not
based
on
a.
A
A
You
know
paying
the
fair
share,
because
that's
that's
how
it
works,
but
well
thanks
for
that.
C
Once
the
motion
comes
forward,
thanks,
I'm
watching
for
other
hands.
While
I
am
I'm
going
to
ask.
B
Mr
mcmillan,
a
question
that
will
help
us
later:
it
is
about
timing.
You
know
we
we.
B
B
We
want
to
make
it
right,
you
want
it
to
be
right.
Obviously
you
don't
want
council
imposing.
B
You
know
we
need
the
thing
to
work.
We've
certainly
been
reminded
of
of
you
know,
inadequate.
B
You
know
drainage
considerations
and
you
know
what
the
what
the
outcome
is.
You
know
kind
of.
B
Nowadays,
so
I
just
really
wanted
to
ask
you
about
timing.
Steve
in
terms
of
you
know
here
we.
B
Are
tonight
if
there's
still
a
few
little,
you
know
calculations,
you
know
more
work
been
done.
B
B
B
Is
a
period
like
you
know
what
a
a
two
week
delay
still
work
with
your
project
parameters.
A
A
One
was,
if
you
I
guess
you
could
make
whatever
decision
you
want
tonight
to
make
the
changes
you.
A
Want
but
the
other
option
is,
you
know
we
can
defer
this
decision
until
two
weeks
from
now
and.
A
You
know
appeal
any
decision
that
would
have
another
public
hearing
in.
A
A
Option
to
try
to
work
that
out,
first
being
as
the
intervention
just
came
on
thursday,
so.
B
D
Yeah,
thank
you
through
your
worship
to
mr
mcmillan.
Thanks
for
bringing
this
forward.
D
D
Administration
and
yourself
to
bring
that
third
reading
back
to
us,
you
know
with
something.
D
That
they
accept
and
that
you're
closer
to
accepting
as
well,
but
for
right
now
we
are.
D
To
be
passing
a
third
reading
tonight,
anyway,
it
doesn't
look
like,
and
I
agree
with
you-
the.
D
D
Direct
administration
to
do
to
do
that
so
right,
but
that's
that's
good.
That
is
good
information.
B
B
Again,
it's
a
complicated
matter,
but
I'm
sure
we'll
get
this
sorted
out
and
get
you
on
your
way.
C
C
Maryland
foresight,
deirdre,
chosum
and
ryan
sturgeon
they're
definitely
going
to
be
a.
C
In
early
january,
we
released
a
new
resource,
it's
called
how
to
guide
tips
for
moving
from
rural.
C
C
That
would
be
appreciated.
Our
committee
has
just
finished
completing
our
new.
C
And
we'll
be
bringing
that
to
you,
probably
at
a
meeting
coming
up
soon.
Also
there'll
be
more.
C
Information
to
follow
on
the
television
series
we're
producing
with
westman
media.
C
We're
hoping
to
have
two
shows
under
our
belt
by
the
end
of
june,
and
then
there
will
be
another.
C
Eight
programs
follow
throughout
the
fall,
so
I'll
keep
you
posted
once
we
get
something
on.
C
C
With
the
line
we
are
more
age
friendly
because
we
and
you
you
can
either
be
in.
C
And
last
we'd
like
to
thank
the
city
of
brandon
for
the
amazing
design
and
implementation
of
a
new.
C
B
Quite
familiar
with
the
fact
that
brandon,
you
know
a
significant
industry
for
us.
If
you
want
to.
B
Call
it
that
is,
you
know,
we
are
a
attractive
place
for
both
young
people
and
for
people
to.
B
Retire,
so
we
are
kind
of
growing
at
both
ends
of
our
demographic,
and
you
know,
I
think
people
in.
B
Especially
western
manitoba
are
pretty
comfortable
with
brandon,
because
they've
been
you
know.
B
B
Not
seeing
any
questions,
but
again
it
was
a
very
thorough
report.
So
I
thank
you
for
that.
B
Hey
so
that
was
the
only
report
that
we
formally.
B
Were
expecting,
but
sometimes
there
were
other
committees
that
may
have.
B
B
C
Tonight
here
I
got
the
inquiries
and
reports.
Okay,
my
first
query
is:
can
the
city
of
brandon
see.
C
C
B
F
F
F
C
C
Quite
excited
to
see
a
new,
I
think,
there's
a
new
stage
coming
up
and
where
there's
going.
C
C
B
Sure,
please
do
citizens
in
the
greenacres
world
are
asking
if
extra
pumps
and
their
operators
are.
F
F
F
C
We're
looking
at
the
only
other
question
I
have
for
you
on
that
at
some
point,
it'd.
C
Be
nice
if
the
public
could
have
a
phone
number
when
if
emergency
does
arise
or
when.
C
C
Where
citizens
can
phone,
you
know,
because
that's
where
they're
going
to.
B
Right
offhand,
but
we
should
make
sure
that
that's
well
publicized
and
put
out
there
and.
B
To
mr
bull's,
you
know
last
you
know
paragraph
in
the
response
provided
by
pam
richardson
council.
B
Make
significant
investments
in
both
on
the
capital
side
of
drainage,
which
was
kind
of
handled.
B
B
At
councillor
barry's
recent
ward
meeting-
and
you
know
it
was
touched
on
and
of
course,.
B
B
Keeping
the
drainage
facilities
maintained
and
properly
flowing,
and
so
we
hopefully
that's.
C
B
Something
crops
up
late
in
the
day
on
monday,
if
there
were
any
like
that,
we
could
take
them
now.
B
Okay,
not
seeing
any
other,
it's
kind
of
like
the
substitute
teacher.
We
want
to
be
easy
on
them.
The.
B
You
very
much,
mr
bowles,
next
item,
please,
madam
clark,
I
don't
have
announcements,
your
worship.
D
Council
parker,
thank
you
worship
I
just
would
like
to.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
an
announcement.
G
But
I'm
hoping
that
councillors,
dejar
lee
and
shuboy
would
back
me
up
in
this
one
and.
G
G
It's
it's
seamless,
so
it
was
kudos
to
them
and
just
encourage
everybody
to
get
out.
G
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
guess
what
counselor
parker
is
referring
to
the
province.
Manitoba.
B
What
they
classified
as
downtown,
which,
of
course,
prairie
mountain
health's
region,
is.
B
One
designation
and
then
the
other
one
is
east
end,
which
I
presume
is
everything.
B
B
Concur
with
your
your
comment:
at
the
occasion
my
number
came
up
and
I
was
vaccinated.
B
H
The
vaccination
front
as
well,
I
know
I
was
able
to
be
vaccinated
last
week
through
a.
H
Local
doctor's
office,
as
well
through
the
change
of
age
eligibility
eligibility,
so
it.
H
Was
very
well
run,
so
my
announcement
this
evening
is
a
discussion
I
had
with
a
gentleman.
H
Pound
licensed
therapy
dog
who
volunteers
at
local
hospitals
and
care
homes
and
facilities
in.
H
H
B
I
To
think
about
this,
the
situation
currently
in
saskatchewan
there
are,
there
are
nine.
I
I
To
recognize
that
this
is
still
an
ongoing
problem
that
needs
to
needs
our
attention.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
counselor
jarley
again
another
situation
that
we.
D
Yes,
thanks
for
your
worship,
I
don't
know
much
about
this,
so
I'm
going
to
guess.
D
D
Locations
are,
but
we
do
have
our
by-election
council
coming
up,
and
that
is
correct
and
that's.
B
The
one
that
I
was
referring
to
that
I
was
gonna
make,
so
it's
glad
that
we
get
it
out
there.
B
So
your
correct
concert
faucet
that
the
meadows
waverly
award
is
having
a
by-election.
B
Specific
details
in
terms
of
the
hours
and
the
voting
places
so
so
that
we
can
encourage.
B
E
E
B
There's
two
individuals
running
for
the
position
so
get
your
hands
on
some
information.
E
Protection
program:
okay,
again,
we
would
have
staff
available.
I
think
council
is
quite.
B
Familiar
with
this
program
been
a
very
popular
program,
so
a
motion
would
be
in
order.
B
D
Here,
I'm
a
secular,
please
sponsor
chabois,
whoever
wishes
to
speak.
Actually,
I'm
going
to
ask
if.
J
Exceeded
expectations
of
response
we've
got
from
residents
and.
J
There's
still
the
need
out
there
to
get
some
of
these
residents
looked
after
with
the.
J
Problems
we've
had
with
with
water
issues
and
oil
and
flooding,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
patrick
to.
J
Jump
in
and
I'm
asking
golf
council
to-
please
listen
and
support
this
once
more.
This
year,.
J
B
Lawyer
worshipping
council:
this
is
not
patrick,
this
is
ryan,
but
this
report
came
through.
B
Jump
right
on
the
council.
Barry
talked
about
this,
isn't
the
new
item
but
came
up
recently.
B
Was
one
hundred
thousand
set
aside
by
council
originally
and
we've
nearly
provided.
B
H
You
to
mr
nickel
just
wondering
if
you
could
just
remind
residents
who
are
who
are
online.
B
Yeah
through
council
to
councillor
cameron,
so
the
program
provides
a
reimbursement.
B
So
the
homeowner's
in
for
25,
the
city,
provides
75
and
of
course,
you
got
to
come
up
come
over
and.
B
L
B
Presentation
from
administration
first
or
just
going
straight
to
the
motion.
D
Thank
you
through
your
worship,
worship
that
the
following
application
for
the
province
manitoba.
D
D
And
they'll
they'll
help
us
do
the
fleet
service
operation,
audit
access
to
transit.
D
M
And
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
objective
is
to
the
province
aims
to
help
municipalities
find.
M
Will
essentially
supply
us
with
a
consultant
to
perform
a
review
of
these
operations?
We
would.
M
M
Report
on
each
of
these
projects
with
a
series
of
recommendations,
the
report
must
be
made
public.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
for
your
worship
question
for
mr
hammond
you're.
It
sounds
like
you're.
I
Some
clarification
for
sure,
so
these
were
the
three
projects
that
kind
of
boiled
to
the.
M
Top
from
administration's
point
of
view,
there
is
a
cap
on
the
amount
of
funds
that
would
be.
I
I
I
B
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up.
Thank
you,
mr
hammond,
for
that
elaboration.
B
B
B
Officer
cameron,
who
wishes
to
speak?
I
will
just
briefly
your
worship
as
miss
wasak.
N
Noted
I
did
give
notice
a
motion
at
our
april
sixth
meeting
to
introduce
this
code
of
conduct.
N
It
is
should
be
noted
that
this
would
apply
to
the
planning
commission
board
of
revision.
N
N
N
Thank
you
for
that
counselor
lucky
any
other
discussion
on
this
motion.
B
N
To
sorry,
your
worship,
through
your
worship,
to
counselors
the
court
of
ethical
conduct
would.
N
Be
sent
to
the
committee
members
and
they
would
have
to
sign
and
return
to
the
clerk's
office.
C
Okay,
thank
you
and
did
you
have
your
hand
up
counselor
to
charlie,
wait,
quiet
yeah.
I
Through
your
worship
to
to
counselor
lupke
thanks
for
for
bringing
this
up
bruce,
I
think.
I
It's
a
good
idea.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
quick
questions
if
the
line
two
and
I
just
have
to.
I
I
I
Sounded
like
that
was
unclear.
I
would
be
amenable
with
that
for
sure
I
I
think
there
might
be.
N
A
opportunity
that
there
could
be
a
you
know
a
virtual
session
provided.
N
N
Watch
that,
but
I
I
think
it's
probably
up
to
the
individual
committees-
to
establish.
N
I
I
Do
our
training
and
that's
fair,
we
are,
you,
know,
municipal
officials.
We
could
offer
this.
I
I
N
B
Interject
I
I
read
that,
like
there's
many
things
in
here
that
relate
to
this
is
really
just
the.
B
Matters
the
way
I
was
reading
it
I'm
not
sure
either
lucky
or
missy.
Was
it
something
to
add.
B
Any
suggestions,
I
think
your
worship,
I
believe,
if
we
wanted
to
amend
and
remove
the.
B
So
you
made
that
amendment
movie
removing
the
words
or
required
from
clause
number.
B
Opposed
and
it
is
carried
back
to
the
main
motion-
and
we
could
certainly.
B
H
Whether
they
fell
in
in
that
same
window
as
far
as
these
groups
or.
H
Or
whether
they
would
sort
of
would
they
fall
under
the
bylaws
as
well.
B
And
I
think
whether
the
counselor
loop
key
or
missy
wazik.
E
E
H
Thank
you
very
much,
miss
owasiak
and,
and
thanks
your
worship
for
that.
I
just
wanted
some.
H
Clarification
because,
like
another,
like
other
members
of
council,
we
do
sit
on
those
boards
as.
B
The
public
to
highlight
the
fact
that
it
became
a
law
in
the
province
of
manitoba.
B
That
all
elected
officials
must
take
a
code
of
conduct
training
course
and
had
to
do
so
by.
B
May
the
first,
and
so
that
covered
every
elected
municipal
official
in
the
province.
I'm
pleased.
B
To
say
that
every
single
brandon
elected
official
has
successfully
completed
that.
B
Course
so
again,
it's
good
that
this
area,
you
know
it's
certainly
an
area
that
has
burgeoned.
B
Over
the
years,
and
now
it
does
have
some
teeth
in
it,
and
it
was
an
online
course
provided
by.
B
A
developed
development
provided
by
the
province
of
manitoba
that
we
can
all
take
advantage
of.
I.
B
Thought
it
was
fairly
well
done
and
relatively
easy
to
do
and
commend
all
counselors
for.
B
Discussion,
I
think
we're
ready.
Did
the
mover
wish
to
close
counselor
luke,
just
briefly
worship.
I.
N
Appreciate
council
support
for
helping
put
this
motion
on
the
table,
and
certainly
I.
N
Hope
that
you'll
support
it,
and
I
would
also
just
comment
a
bit
on
councillor,
cameron's.
N
Question
I
think
this
document
and
the
14
points
that
are
enclosed
and
it
can
serve
as.
N
K
B
If
somebody
like
to
make
that
motion,
please
consider
go
ahead.
D
There
in
honor
of
ronnie,
I
didn't
put
my
my
new
job
so
in.
M
D
And
and
and
probably
is
not
gonna
be
able
to
to
commit
to
his
duties
for
the
next
little
while
or.
B
Thank
you
well
said.
I
certainly
met
with
councillor
brown,
and
this
would
certainly
help.
B
Them
through
this
period
of
time,
as
always,
we've
got
a
very
teamwork
approach
and.
B
Can
pick
up
some
of
the
calls
if
residents
of
councilor
brown's
ward,
you
know
do
have
issues.
B
Certainly,
they
can
call
city
hall
either
to
the
city
manager's
office
or
the
mayor's.
B
Office
and
we'll
you
know,
make
sure
that
those
matters
are
dealt
with.
Council
brown
does
sit.
B
On
some
committees,
we'll
be
following
up
next
council
meeting
with
a
backfilling
of
committees.
B
B
We
expect
to
have
that
to
counsel
for
next
meeting
to
cover
off
these
committees.
B
Temporary
basis,
counselor
bronze
case
and
counselor
barry's
hands
up.
It
might.
B
Nope,
just
a
panda
okay,
any
any
further
discussion
about
this
motion.
B
C
Get
better
soon
and,
as
I
told
you
on
an
email,
counselor
brown,
that
I
I'm
definitely
willing
to.
C
Help
you
out
with
any
of
your
richmond
ward
issues
and
your
citizens
in
the
ward.
C
Similar,
so
I'm
I'm
more
than
willing
to
help
note
on
any
of
the
word
issues.
B
Just
focuses
on
his
health
at
the
moment,
so
that's
good
and
next
item.
Please.
D
Yes,
thank
you
through
your
worship
that
the
low
bid
submitted
by
alan
and
bolak
excavating.
D
B
B
Presenter
on
this
did
you
have
some
highlights
that
you
wanted
to
present
mr
ellard.
O
Yeah,
thank
you.
Your
worship,
pretty
pretty
straightforward
as
put
forward
by.
O
Financial
plan,
so
engineering
is
asking
for
a
supplemental,
270
thousand
dollars.
O
To
replace
the
water
main
it's
currently
inoperable
and
and
stuck
in
a
closed
position.
O
In
the
in
the
residence
and
and
business
area,
so
as
I
as
I
said,
the
270
000
that
is
required.
O
And
so
we
we
do
recommend
that
these
funds
are
allotted
for
further
replacement.
B
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
Is
there
any
questions
of
mr
allard.
B
Faucet
go
ahead;
yeah.
Thank
you
through
your
worship
and
thank
you
to
mr
allen.
D
D
Installation
of
that
lift
station
or
is
it,
is
it
a?
Was
it
an
overlook
or
an
after
the
fact.
D
How
did
that
end
up
sliding
in
there
I'll
patrick,
through
your
worship,
to.
L
Councillor
faucet,
it
was
an
oversight
of
the
contract
for
the
lift
station.
It
was
missed.
L
L
Oversight
from
that
lift
station
contract
and
something
will
correct
this
year.
Okay,
oh
that's.
D
Excellent
and
then
my
follow-up
question
is,
you
know,
obviously
you're
comfortable
with
the
bid.
D
We
do
have
full
confidence
in
the
bid
price
just
just
going
off
the
four
of
them.
O
I'm
sure
you
are
but
yeah.
No
absolutely
we've
looked
at
some
of
the
bids,
comparing
with
our.
O
Engineering's
estimate
and
and
we're
quite
confident
that
the
bid
represents
good
value.
H
O
Yeah,
I
would
think
that
very
locally
there
that
we're,
probably
in
the
neighborhood.
O
Of
approximately
a
week
somewhere
in
that,
but
it
should
be
a
very,
very
localized.
O
H
B
B
B
Allard,
coming
back
to
the
main
motion,
then
any
further
discussion.
E
B
Very
good,
so
this
is
a
fairly
lengthy
and
complicated
one
that
we
did
have.
B
B
The
property
we're
talking
about
is
to
the
north
of
the
future
claire
avenue
here
so
monterey.
B
That
shows
the
property
council
previously
approved
the
first
stages
of
development,
which.
B
As
it's
typically
seen
on
a
private
road,
this
map-
and
I
just
cut
it
out
here.
B
Includes,
of
course,
which
is
storing
the
water,
and
then
it
includes
all
the
discussion
around.
B
B
Administration
was
to
have
it
stored
on
site,
and
that
was
because
of
council's
priorities.
B
But
through
further
discussions,
the
presenter
desired
to
have
us
kind
of
stick
to
the
original.
B
B
B
The
piece
that's
being
challenged,
though,
is
the
the
number,
because
it
is
such
a
high
level
and.
B
B
B
This
is
just
a
zoomed
in
plan
showing
the
different
phases,
so
these
first
four
phases.
B
B
B
Interested
in
expediency,
especially
the
developer,
so
it
sounded
as
though,
like
maybe
your
your.
B
Continue
to
tweak
the
the
the
program
so
that
it's
a
little
clearer,
you
know
with.
B
B
Maybe
council
could
provide
some
additional
feedback.
I
guess
to
to.
B
The
the
major
issue
about
the
contribution
to
oversizing-
you
know,
which
is
kind
of.
B
Standpoint
and
it
could
be
another
approach
to
that-
the
tree
planting
two
meters
versus.
B
Three
meters
and
the
contribution
to
I
guess
or
pardon
me
the
the
need
of
a
landscape.
B
B
Four
that
are
in
discussion
that
make
any
sense:
yeah
two-year
worship,
yeah.
B
I
will
allow
a
little
bit
of
discussion
on
the
part
of
council
the
award
counselor.
B
D
Yeah,
thank
you
through
your
worship.
Having
listened
to
ryan
there
now,
I
would
probably
be.
D
Leaning
towards
deferring
it
and
hopefully
getting
it
back
for
two
weeks,
the
items
number
four.
D
I
I
think
that
our
administration
and
and
and
and
the
developer
can
work
that
out
without.
D
A
problem,
I
think
they
do
have
a
discussion
on
the
contributions
and
the
process
there.
D
And
again,
that's
a
that's
a
discussion
between
the
the
the
staff
and
and
the
developer.
D
Really,
to
a
great
extent,
to
see
what
they
end
up,
bringing
back
and
we've
given
the
two
weeks,
my.
D
My
impression
first,
when
I
first
went
through
this,
was
that
with
us
holding
it
in
a
balance.
D
And
then
they
would
have
the
time
to
do
that.
Discussion
versus
doing
second
reading.
D
As
just
getting
the
second
reading
done
and
then
they'd
have
that
time,
but
if
if
it
is
the.
D
To
defer
it,
let
them
have
that
discussion,
then,
and
then,
hopefully,
within
two
weeks
they
can
get.
D
D
Comes
back,
but
I
would
hope
that
that
might
be
able
to
to
get
us
where
we
want
to
go
for
everyone.
D
Thanks
for
that,
and
and
like
yourself,
I
I
thought
you
were
onto
something.
B
Second
reading
anyway,
so
we
could
keep
moving
ahead,
but
now,
thanks
to
mr
nickel,
he's
pointed.
B
By
causing
them
to
trigger
another
hearing
and
actually
slowing
it
down,
when,
in
fact,
we
were.
I
I
B
B
B
B
I
P
Sure
that
whether
you
know
when
it
comes
to
cost
sharing
or
whatever,
that
the
the
actual.
P
Necessity
as
far
as
sizing
is
is,
and
so
again
you
only
get
one
kick
if
you
can
to
put
this
thing.
P
In
the
ground
now
we
know
what
happens
when
you
kind
of
make
compromises
as
far
as
what
needs
to.
P
Be
in
the
ground
so
again
in
during
that
review.
I'd
still
like
to
make
sure
that
planning
and.
P
You
know
again,
I'm
not
the
I'm,
not
the
guy,
that
could
make
that
calculation
engineer.
You've
got.
B
Not
as
accustomed
to
working
in
in
in
millimeters
when
it
comes
to
pipes,
but
I.
B
B
Want
to
make
sure
we're
right,
not
sure
if
it
comes
faucet,
did
you
have
your
hand
up
go
ahead.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
again
for
your
worship.
So
if
I
could
just
confirm
some
things
with
mr
wasik.
D
And
mr
nickel,
so
along
the
lines
of
what
I
was
originally
thinking
is:
if
we
do
second
reading.
E
E
Appeal
mechanism,
which
would
create
another
public
hearing
for
council,
which
would
extend.
E
B
B
Yeah
through
his
worship
to
counselor
faucet
somewhat
along
the
same
lines,
the
contribution.
B
B
B
B
Administration
have
agreed
to
it,
then
council
passes
it,
but
given
the
fact
that
the.
B
We're
not
quite
at
the
finish
line,
the
developer
isn't
quite
in
agreement
with
all
of
the.
B
Plazas
they're
in
agreement
with
many
of
them,
and
some
of
them
are
close,
and
you
know
one.
B
Needs
quite
a
bit
more
work,
so
I
don't
see
a
whole
lot
of
other
possibilities
that.
B
One
way
or
the
other,
this
has
got
to
be
held
over
to
another
time.
I
think
it's
risky
to
do
the.
B
Second
reading
that
kind
of
starts
the
clock
and
doesn't
really
get
us
any
further
ahead.
In
fact,.
B
Unfortunately,
is
going
to
be
the
method
that
would
potentially
provide
the
most
delay
the
the.
B
Ironing
out
the
the
formula
for
us
and
we
bring
it
back
in
two
weeks
and
hopefully
we
can.
B
C
Deferring
it,
I
know
that
the
developer
said
that
he
he
didn't
get
enough
time
to.
C
B
I
think
you're
right,
I
don't
mind,
saying
that
deferring
in
two
weeks
is
still
a
tall
order,
as.
B
As
concert
faucet,
I
think
put
it
earlier
that
you
know
you
know
it'd
probably.
B
Numbers
or
the
engineering
from
their
side
either
so
so
there's
some
work
to
be
done.
There.
B
It's
probably
a
tall
order
to
have
all
that
done
in
two
weeks,
but
I
think
we
all
want
to
try.
B
B
Make
that
known
to
council,
I
think
our
director
of
engineering,
mr
allard,
has
something.
B
O
The
dollar
value
in
which
we
would
request
the
developer
to
pay,
certainly
engineering.
O
O
It's
a
very
high
level,
conceptual
estimate
that
that
we
present
and
and
obviously
the
risk
to.
O
Us
is:
do
we
collect
sufficient
funds
to
offset
the
the
portion
of
drainage?
That
would.
O
Service,
the
current
developer,
so
it's
it's
not
so
much
of
an
engineering
question.
O
I
think
the
developer
in
his
in
his
presentation
identified
that
development.
O
Should
pay
for
development,
which
I
think
is,
is
a
very
strong
principle
that
we
should
follow.
O
Make
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'm
confident
that
the
engineering
solution
will
be
arrived
up.
B
Is
that
we
collect
those
such
as
the
case
of
claire,
but
we
don't
add
anything
to.
B
Just
a
little
bit
more
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
something
closer
to
what
council
can.
D
Is
money
so
to
speak?
You
know,
obviously,
if
we
wanted
to
get
this
thing
going
right
away.
D
Just
kind
of
pay
the
bill
no,
but
I
think
with
what
we've
heard
and
discussed,
I
think
we
we.
D
And
I'm
comfortable
with
putting
on
two
weeks
next
meeting.
But
I
don't
know
if
anybody.
D
Else,
that's
actually
going
to
be
doing.
The
negotiating
is
comfortable
with
that,
but.
E
D
To
that
to
the
the
next
meeting
of
council
and
with
the
hope
and
expectations
that
they
that
we.
D
They,
the
two
groups,
can
come
to
something
that
it
will
be
acceptable.
The
council
table
too.
B
Thank
you
so
councillor
faucet
is
moving
deferral.
This
matter
to.
B
May
17th
is
our
seconder
concert
cullen.
I
will
add
for
what
it's
worth
concert
faucet,
that
you.
B
B
B
Moving
discussion
on
the
defer
or
the
referral
motion
is
not
debatable
so
to
date,
so
we're
gonna.
B
B
Post
that
is
carried
thank
you
very
much
again
to
the
developer
and
to
our
administration.
We.
B
Know
these
are
large
and
complicated
matters.
They're
also
very
important
has
been
indicated.
B
By
really
all
parties
that
it
needs
to
be
done
right,
and
you
know
we
we
want
to
you-
know.
B
B
E
B
Good
get
some
counselors
charlie
go
ahead,
please
through
your
worship,.
I
Shot,
do
I
bring
it
into
second
reading
and
do
we
get
ryan
to
talk
to
this
one
or.
I
B
Go
ahead,
mr
nickel,
if
you're
planning
to
give
us
a
highlight
on
this
yeah,
thank
you.
Your
worship.
B
B
Area
of
the
downtown,
what's
unique
about
this
request,
is
that
it's
proposing
for
deck.
B
B
B
B
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
nichols
who
will
open
up
floor
for
questions
of
him.
I
Of
the
two
objections
first
off,
I
just
want
to
say
that
a
really
well
crafted
letter.
I
I
Discussing
the
matter
with
the
developer
chose
to
withdraw
their
objection.
That
was
my.
B
Yeah
through
your
worship,
the
council
of
your
your
counselor
today,
charlie,
was
correct.
There.
B
B
Not
seeing
any
okay,
thank
you
very
much
ryan.
We
can
come
back
to
you
constitutionally
for
the.
I
B
B
I
B
Any
discussion
only
a
third
reading
being
held
in
advance,
really
not
like
the
last
matter.
It.
B
Kind
of
shows
how
we
have
to
work
that
they
do
exercise
that
development
agreement.
So
I
think.
B
B
Items
on
the
agenda,
thank
you
very
much
everyone
and
we
got
our
new
city
manager
kind
of.