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From YouTube: Budget Forum 2020 All presetations and questions
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Full presentation with presentations from three speakers Lynley Dumble, Wade Noonan and Emma King and a Q&A session.
A
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
jason.
Yes,
my
name's
emily
dumbo,
I'm
the
acting
director
of
community
wellbeing
at
brimbank
city
council.
Before
we
begin,
I
would
also
like
to
acknowledge
the
maraudery
people,
the
traditional
custodians
of
on
of
the
land
on
which
rim
bank
sits
and
paying
my
respects
to
elders,
past
and
present.
B
I'll
also
outline
some
of
the
local
key
local
highlights
and
gaps
that
came
out
of
the
2020-21
state
and
federal
budgets,
brook's
going
to
be
managing
the
slides,
so
I'm
sure
we'll
be
as
seamless
as
possible
in
getting
through
this.
So
thank
you.
Everyone,
council
has
been
hosting
the
budget
forum
since
2014,
in
conjunction
with
the
social
justice
coalition.
B
The
forum
provides
an
opportunity
to
consider
how
state
and
federal
government
budget
and
policy
impacts
brim
bank.
As
we
know,
there
has
been
a
delay
with
budget
announcements
because
of
covert.
So
normally
we
hold
this
event.
You
know
in
the
middle
of
the
year,
so
we've
had
to
wait
till
the
end
of
the
year.
To
actually
do
this
important
event.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
We
know
that
we
have
a
higher
rate
of
unemployment,
9.4
percent
higher
than
the
western
region
and
victoria
the
unemployment
extends
beyond
10
in
several
of
our
neighborhoods,
including
sin
orbans
kicks
park,
sunshine,
north
and
sunshine
west,
notably.
We
expect
these
figures
to
get
worse
by
the
september
and
december
quarters
as
a
result
of
the
second
lockdown.
B
B
The
results
reveal
that
the
pandemic
has
had
detrimental
impact
on
mental
health,
social
connections
and
family
relationships,
and
you
can
see
the
highest
number
seeking
assistance
is
actually
in
that
mental
health
field
around
68.7,
as
well
as
isolation
and
loneliness.
We
know
this
was
a
huge
impact
in
our
municipality
and
continues
to
be.
B
B
So
council's
response
to
cobia
19,
since
the
very
early
days
of
the
the
pandemic
council
has
been
supporting
our
community
in
many
ways,
including
sharing
information
about
the
pandemic
and
the
virus,
and
how
to
prevent
transmission
and
keep
healthy
and
safe,
supporting
a
number
of
testing
sites
in
brimbank,
with
the
state
government,
maintaining
contact
with
vulnerable
residents
transitioning.
So
many
of
our
programs
and
services
to
online
to
support
people
while
they
were
isolating
at
home
during
the
restrictions
and
also
supporting
our
local
businesses
and
sporting
clubs.
B
Council's
response
has
been
formalized
into
these
two
key
documents,
and
these
are
both
available
on
council's
website.
The
corona
virus
response
and
recovery
strategy,
as
well
as
our
19
point
action
plan
for
coded
response
and
recovery,
which
highlights
our
advocacy
around
this
issue
to
state
and
federal
government.
B
Thanks
brooke
the
just
going
back
to
the
strategy,
it
was
actually
adopted
by
council,
firstly
in
april
2020,
and
we
do
monthly
progress
reports
to
council,
including
some
of
the
data
that
I've
just
presented
today,
we're
currently
working
in
the
organization
with
others
to
be
able
to
review
this
document
to
see
what
our
I
guess.
Next
stage
of
supporting
the
community
during
recovery
will
be
in
2020
and
beyond.
B
So
for
budget
highlights,
I
briefly
outlined
some
highlights
from
the
state
and
federal
budget.
There
are
many
other
announcements
with
indirect
and
potential
benefit
to
brimbane,
but
I'll
leave
these
to
be
discussed
by
emma
in
the
breakout
discussions.
Our
local
highlights
include
the
melbourne
airport
railing.
It
has
now
been
confirmed
that
the
melbourne
airport
rail
link
will
run
via
sunshine,
which
provides
long-term
foundation
for
social
and
economic
development.
B
The
suburban
rail
loop,
which
will
be
the
state
government,
has
allocated
funding
to
start.
The
project
will
ultimately
include
a
new
transport
hub
at
sunshine
mental
health.
The
state
government
has
allocated
funding
to
provide
additional
mental
health
beds
at
sunshine
hospital,
which
will
go
some
way
to
meeting
current
and
forecast
demand
open
space.
State
government
funding
has
allocated
funding
for
upgrades
to
visitor
facilities
and
playgrounds,
including
organ
pipes,
national
park
and
brimbank
park,
which
is
a
very
welcome
investment.
B
B
B
However,
we
will
continue
to
keep
advocating
the
local
such
shovel
ready
projects.
No
dedicated
funding
was
provided
in
this,
these
budget
announcements
and
for
jobseeker
there
were
no.
There
were
further
cuts
to
the
rate
of
job
seeker
and
no
announcement
has
been
made
on
a
permanent
rate,
so
there
will
be
plenty
of
time
in
today's
session
to
talk
a
bit
more
around
those
gaps.
B
A
D
Thanks
jason,
for
that
very
warm
and
and
fine
and
long
introduction,
it
makes
me
feel
a
bit
old
when
you
run
through
all
of
that,
and
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
my
my
involvement
with
the
indigenous
marathon
foundation,
which
is
something
very
close
to
my
heart.
So
it's
an
appropriate
place
to
start
by
acknowledging
the
traditional
owners,
as
others
have
during
this
session,
and
pay
my
respects
to
the
elders
that
might
be
with
us
and
step
us
into
my
presentation
before
I
get
into
the
detail.
D
You
know
a
longer-term
vision
for
our
our
region,
being
melbourne's
west
from
2020
to
2040
and
I'll
explain
why
we've
done
this
work,
but
before
I
step
into
it,
I
did
see
that
one
of
my
colleagues
sue
lagreca
from
lead
west
who's
been
really
quite
critical
to
the
creation
of
this
document
is
also
with
us
this
morning.
So
a
special
shout
out
to
sue
legrecker
brook's,
also
helping
me
with
the
slides.
D
D
Next
slide,
thanks
bro,
so
who
is
waimea
well
up
until
2017?
We
actually
didn't
have
a
regional
grouping
in
melbourne's
west,
just
folk
focusing
on
economic
development
and
jobs.
Now
I
know
this
seems
quite
extraordinary
and
there
are
other
very
good
regional
groups,
but
this
group
was
formed
essentially
just
to
focus
on
how
do
we
grow
jobs?
D
And
you
heard
from
lindley
about
the
pressures
of
unemployment
in
our
region,
so
a
very
small
outfit
that
we've
got
a
very
strong,
independent
board,
which
is
chaired
by
steve
brack's
former
premier,
but
it
also
has
all
of
the
leaders
from
the
various
large-scale
employers
across
melbourne's.
Where
so
I
speak
of
western
health
victoria
university.
D
So
we
only
have
a
small
staff,
I'm
one
of
two
part-time
staff
and
our
primary
objective
is
to
try
and
influence
new
economic
development
opportunities
for
melbourne's
west,
but
to
put
it
in
very
straight
crude
terms,
it's
about
creating
more
local
jobs,
close
to
where
people
live
and
a
greater
diversity
in
the
job
opportunities
for
people
in
melbourne's.
West
we've
done
this
by
releasing
a
number
of
reports
where
we
use
an
economist
and
the
our
board,
and
we
we
do
a
bit
of
stakeholder
discussion
as
well.
Just
at
a
high
level.
D
Moving
on
to
the
next
slide,
and
that
is
to
talk
about
this
city
deal
a
city
deal
is
essentially
a
creation,
a
policy
creation
of
the
federal
government,
the
morrison
government.
What
it's
designed
to
do
is
to
bring
three
levels
of
government,
together
with
the
community,
to
work
out
a
shared
vision
for
productive
and
livable
cities.
I
think
I've
lifted
that
straight
off
their
website.
D
You
can,
you
can
tell
it's
government
speak,
but
it's
really
about
bringing
the
forces
of
three
like
three
levels
of
government
together
and
and
what
it's
about
is
about
sort
of
alignment,
around
planning
investments,
accelerating
growth
and
job
opportunity,
and
stimulating
urban
renewal
and
driving
economic
reforms.
There
has
been
eight
city
deals
done
across
australia.
Only
one
has
been
done
in
in
victoria
so
far,
and
that's
been
done
in
geelong
had
a
high
focus
on
tourism,
including
in
geelong
and
the
great
ocean
road
as
well.
D
What
it's
what's
done
is
this
brought
370
million
dollars
worth
of
investment
to
that
region.
So
when
we're
talking
about
city
deals,
we're
talking
about
big
bickies,
because
the
most
recent
city
deal
that
was
done
has
been
done
in
perth
announced,
I
think,
last
month
worth
about
1.5
billion
and
a
really
high
focus
on
universities,
skills
and
bringing
people
into
central
perth.
D
D
D
I
think
it's
probably
worth
noting.
The
very
last
item
on
this
particular
slide
indicates
that,
just
a
week
ago,
minister
taj's
office
indicated
that
they
intend,
on
proceeding
with
a
city,
deal
with
a
hope
to
secure
securing
an
agreement
across
all
three
levels
of
government
in
the
first
half
of
2021.
D
The
reason
that's
significant
is
like,
like
everything
else,
that's
happened
this
year.
Covert
has
really
put
a
spanner
in
the
works
so
where
we
would,
where
we
thought
we
might
be
proceeding
at
a
more
accelerated
rate.
They've
had
their
focus
elsewhere,
as
has
the
state
government,
as
has
local
government
important
to
note
that
city
deals
are
very
much
alive
and
well,
and
there
is
an
intention
to
move
one
forward
in
melbourne's
west
next
slide,
rook,
so
governance
think
about
melbourne's,
north
and
west.
D
Think
about
how
extraordinarily
large
melbourne's,
north
and
west
is
and
how
quickly
it's
growing
and
how
hard
it
is
potentially
to
get
an
alignment
of
views
across
all
of
the
various
groups
that
exist
in
melbourne's,
north
and
west.
What
we
did
is
we
set
up
a
scaring
committee
and
working
party
which,
on
the
western
side,
has
involved
juanita,
which
I'm
representing
lead
west,
and
I
mentioned
sue
lagreca
and
victoria
universities.
D
D
Next
slide
goes
to
the
scope
of
our
work.
Now
we
have
had
worked
intensively
across
four
or
five
months
to
prepare
a
report.
What
that
looked
at
is
both
the
strengths
and
the
challenges.
So
what
are
the
things
that
are
happening
in
melbourne's
west?
Where
are
our
competitive
strengths?
What
infrastructure
is
coming
to
our
region?
What
will
that
enable
to
happen
when
it's
in
it's
invested?
We
looked
at
all
of
the
strengths
and
challenges
in
our
area.
Again,
we
want
to
paint
a
really
positive
view
of
what
our
region
has
to
offer.
D
It
needs
to
be
recognized
that
more
people
leave
melbourne's
west.
They
commute
to
get
work
than
any
other
region
of
melbourne
or
victoria.
That's
a
really
big
challenge.
It
means
that
lots
and
lots
of
people
are
working
in
melbourne's,
west
and
lots
of
people
have
skills
in
melbourne's
western
experience,
but
there's
not
enough
local
jobs
in
our
region
to
basically
cater
for
the
population
of
tears
today
and
the
population
that
is
growing
over
the
next
20
years.
D
In
order
for
people
to
work
and
for
people
to
invest
in
organizations
to
invest
in
melbourne's
west,
you
need
to
have
good
transport
and
connectivity.
You
need
to
not
just
be
able
to
move
people
from
sunshine
to
the
cbd.
You
need
to
be
able
to
move
them
around
melbourne
in
multiple
modes
of
transport.
D
Yes,
the
airport
rail
link
is
really
critical,
but
that's
why
suburban
rail
link
and
others
other
investments
are
really
important
as
well
health
and
well-being,
and
also
livability
things
such
as
housing
as
well.
The
rationale
for
investment
in
this
area
is
really
about
jobs
and
growing
300
000
jobs
to
match
population
growth.
D
Our
focus
here
is
really
around
making
sunshine
whereby
footscray
and
melton
our
economic
beating
hearts
of
melbourne's
west.
They
are
the
precincts
that
we
want
to
grow
and
we've
listed
both
transformational
and
enabling
projects
that
will
bring
those
economic
precincts
to
life
next
slide
and
I'm
conscious
of
time.
D
Some
of
the
big
transformational
projects
that
we're
pushing
in
in
melbourne's
west
are
already
happening
or
are
in
in
this
in
stages
of
going
to
happen.
But
west
gate
tunnel,
notwithstanding
its
challenges,
will
be
a
vital
second
river
crossing
very
important
for
the
freight
industry
that
will
grow
jobs.
Melbourne
airport
rail
link,
we're
building
the
biggest
hospital
in
the
state
in
footscray,
and
recently
we
also
were
pushing
and
were
successful
in
getting
another
hospital
to
be
built
for
for
melton.
D
There
are
a
number
of
other
projects
there
on
the
transformational
list.
I
won't
go
through
them
all,
but
you
can
see
them
for
yourself
moving
to
sunshine,
which
is
a
focus
for
us
airport.
Rail
link
and
the
suburban
rail
link
will
absolutely
transform
sunshine
forever
and
in
fact,
make
it
the
capital
of
melbourne's
west
very
much
akin
to
parramatta
in
sydney.
D
There
is
a
need
to
significantly
boost
jobs
in
the
local
area,
but
also
address
the
social
disadvantage,
diversify
housing
stock
and
address
livability
gaps
such
as
open
space
and
recreation.
The
city
deal
proposal
priorities
for
sunshine.
Beyond
the
the
rail
we
did
put
sa
melbourne's
health
and
well-being
hub.
We
see
the
strong
benefit
of
that
for
the
community.
We
want
to
create
a
jobs
institute
in
brimbank
and
we
want
to
create
a
very
significant
regional
sports
facility
as
well.
D
D
Next
slide
goes
to
the
media
in
terms
of
the
launch
on
the
day
when
we
release
this
front
page
double
page
spread
lots
of
interest
in
melbourne's
media
about
the
growth
and
opportunities
in
melbourne's
west.
The
messages
on
the
next
slide
are
really
about
saying.
We
have
a
very
large
and
diverse
population.
D
One
in
three
victorians
will
live
in
melbourne's,
north
and
west,
and
our
area
is
expected
to
grow
to
be
about
this
bigger
than
south
australia
over
the
next
20
years,
with
one
million
extra
residents.
That's
why
we
need
300,
000
extra
jobs,
just
finally,
the
budget,
good
outcomes
in
the
budget
and
there's
no
doubt
that
our
city
deal
plan
is
already
being
recognized
for
including
some
important
projects.
D
I
think
that,
as
lynley
said,
what
you've
got
is
setting
the
foundations
for
covet
recovery,
but
some
regional
outcomes
of
significance
for
melbourne's
west
that
come
through,
particularly
from
the
state
funding
for
land
acquisition
and
early
works,
been
for
a
new
hospital
in
melton.
The
redevelopment
expansion
of
the
whitt
novalin
in
footscray
worth
about
60
million
richard
ponsford
from
melbourne
melbourne
west
tourism,
will
be
very
happy
about
the
expansion
of
the
werebe
open
range
zoo,
moving
the
elephants
from
parkville
down
to
whereby
it
will
generate
new
jobs
and
economic
opportunity.
D
There's
a
major
new
justice
precinct
coming
in
in
werribee,
almost
200
million
for
that
first
stage
of
where
it
be
western
rail
plan
fast
rail
to
geelong
that'll,
go
all
the
way
through
the
west
and
create
almost
3
000
jobs,
52
new
mental
health
beds
and
I'm
sure
emma
king
will
talk
about
the
social
housing
dwellings
and
bring
bank
and
merit
on
our
priority
areas
out
in
our
part
of
the
world.
It's
an
outstanding
budget
for
melbourne's
west.
D
D
We
do
want
to
secure
more
than
a
billion
dollars
worth
of
new
investment
in
this
city
deal
for
our
region
and
we
do
want
to
accelerate
the
delivery
of
major
infrastructure
and
investment
with
a
high
focus
on
jobs
and
we'll
work
closely
with
our
partners
to
maximise
every
single
opportunity
for
melbourne's
west.
So
jason
back
to
you.
A
Also,
having
worked
as
a
victorian
policy
advisor
as
a
teacher
and
in
a
range
of
industrial
and
training
roles
of
the
victorian
independent
education
union
and
the
finance
sector
union
emma
represents
v-class
on
a
range
of
ministerial
advisory
groups
and
committees,
she's.
Also
the
chair
of
the
future
social
service
institute,
president
of
the
farnham
street
neighborhood
learning
center
and
a
board
member
of
mental
health
victoria.
A
Emma
is
a
regular
commentator
on
social
affairs
and
justice
issues
and
we're
really
delighted
to
hear
from
you
today
emma
to
provide
a
background
and
an
overview
on
both
of
the
budgets,
particularly
in
terms
of
how
they
respond
to
some
of
the
key
social
justice
issues
and
recovery
from
the
covert
19
pandemic.
I
should
let
folks
know
we
had
some
challenges
getting
emma
into
the
zoom
call,
so
we're
all
super
relieved,
hey
that
you're
here
and
b,
that
we're
about
to
hear
from
you
so
welcome
emma.
C
Thank
you
so
much
jason
and
if
also
I
can
acknowledge
brooke
for
his
patience
as
we
were
kind
of
going
back
and
forth.
I
think
in
this
day
and
age,
every
event
comes
with
at
least
one
it
challenge,
and
unfortunately,
for
me
today
with
me,
as
in
unfortunately
for
everyone
here,
but
I'm
glad
to
be
here
and
kudos
to
the
the
team
at
brimbank
who
made
that
all
possible,
where
there's
limited
sort
of
stress
etc
as
possible.
So
a
huge
thank
you
for
me.
C
If
I
can
begin
by
acknowledging
the
traditional
owners
of
the
land
upon
which
we
all
meet
on
today,
I'm
on
the
lands
of
the
waranju
people
of
the
kula
nation.
So
if
I
can
pay
my
respects
to
elders,
past
present
and
emerging
and
also
acknowledge
other
elders
and
aboriginal
people
who
are
with
us
today,
I'd
also
like
to
acknowledge
the
other
speakers
today,
having
just
heard
wade's
presentation
and
lindley.
I'm
very
sorry
that
I
I
missed
yours,
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
looking
at
the
slides,
etc.
C
Later
as
as
well,
I
might
jump
in
just
because
of
time.
I
might
just
sort
of
jump
straight
into
the
slides
that
I've
got
here
what
I
might
do
just
if
we
start
off
on
the
next
slide
brooke,
if
that's
okay,
brooke's,
also
assisting
me
with
all
things
it,
which
is
a
far
safer
thing
for
everyone
on
this
call.
C
One
of
the
things
that
I've
said
you
know
at
the
outset
of
this
is,
is
you
know,
kind
of
don't
be
alarmed
we're
actually
at
a
point
where
interest
rates
are
really
low.
The
state
budget
is
not
like
a
household
budget,
it's
very
different
in
terms
of
the
way
that
the
money
is
rolled
over,
but
our
debt
is
actually
very
low
in
comparison
to
international
standards
as
well,
which
I
think
is
really
important
to
acknowledge
and
one
of
the
things
in
terms
when
we
look
at
the
broader
commentary.
C
C
C
You
know,
unemployment,
underemployment
and
underutilisation
rates,
and
we
all
know
that's
been
pretty
horrific
and
magnified
in
victoria.
In
melbourne,
I
should
say
in
particular
central
melbourne
because
of
the
stage
four
component.
You
know
one
of
the
things
as
well.
When
we
look
at
the
issue,
I
think
around
unemployment
and
underemployment,
remembering
that,
if
you
only
work
an
hour
a
week,
you're
suddenly
considered
to
be
employed.
C
So
I
think
it's
important
to
show
the
impact
in
this
way
and
I'll
be
interested
to
see
the
next
set
of
data
as
it
starts
to
play
out,
knowing
that
some
industries
are
starting
to
reopen,
and
I
think
there's
that
significant
divide
and
being
someone
who
at
the
moment
is
trying
to
get
hold
of
a
couple
of
trades.
People
whom
I
know
have
got
work
like
they've
said
they've
never
had
before
compared
to
others
who
just
can't
they
just
can't
pick
up.
C
Work
or
they've
been
entirely
displaced
from
their
work,
and
I
think
the
next
slide,
if
we
jump
forward
to
that
one,
because
it
gives
that
picture
around
unemployment
and
underemployment
and
kind
of
who's,
been
impacted
and
impacted.
The
most-
and
I
think,
we've
heard
lots
of
language
around
particularly
the
impact
on
women.
C
The
impact
on
and
that's
been
described
in
a
very
in
various
ways
would
be
the
pink
recession
or
she
session
etc
as
well,
but
it's
overwhelmingly
young
people
as
well
as
women,
but
then
as
well
as
people
who
are
who
are
older
as
well,
and
these
slides.
What
I'm
mindful
of
is
in
terms
when
we
look
at
these
slides.
They
don't
necessarily
show
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
who've
left
the
workforce.
C
So
we
know
that
once
covert
hit,
a
number
of
people
actually
stopped
looking
for
jobs,
they
either
stopped
or
they
prevent
it
from
looking
for
employment
because
they
had
significant
caring
responsibilities.
So
we
know
with
things
like
home,
you
know
with
homeschooling,
kids
and
all
those
sorts
of
things
that
had
a
really
big
impact
on
people,
as
did
they
need
to
care
for
others.
C
So
if
you're
not
able,
you
know
if
you've
got
someone
who
actually
needs
care
or
support,
but
that
person
wasn't
able
to
enter
your
home,
then
you're
having
to
take
time
off
work
or
not
look
for
work
during
that
period
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
frame
that
up
more
generally
and
I
think
it
also
helps
frame
why
the
victorian
government
was
framed
as
it
has
been
in
terms
of
looking
at
a
jobs
budget,
because
we
know
we've
just
got
to
really
focus
on
how
we
stimulate
the
economy.
It
actually
fits
in
really
beautifully.
C
I
think,
with
the
presentation
that
you
just
gave
us
well
wade
in
terms
of
looking
at
when
we
look
at
some
of
the
the
parts
of
our
economy
that
I
think
have
traditionally
been
overlooked
and
some
of
the
places
where
people
live
and
need
to
work,
there's
huge
opportunity
that
comes
in
in
there.
I
think
government
is
pretty
optimistic,
both
state
and
federal.
In
terms
of
looking
at
the
employment
figures
going
forward.
C
I
see
there
can't
really
be
anything
else,
but
even
at
looking
at
unemployment
figures
going
forward
in
the
budget
papers,
which
is
over
five
percent,
it's
still
pretty
high,
it's
all
relative,
but
still
pretty
high,
but
nonetheless
looking
at
a
jobs
budget.
Making
that
essential
feature,
I
think,
has
been
a
really
positive
thing.
I
might
jump
forward
to
the
next
slide.
If
I
can.
C
The
headlines
here-
and
I
think,
certainly
wade,
touched
on
these-
that
lindley
may
well
have
as
well.
In
all
honesty,
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
budget
lockups.
I've
never
felt
as
excited
as
I
did
in
the
last
budget
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
the
announcements,
the
magnitude
of
the
announcements
and
I'll
touch
on
each
of
them
in
a
bit
of
detail,
but
also,
I
think,
the
joining
up
component.
C
So
when
we
look
at
the
fact
that
a
number
of
announcements
that
I
won't
even
touch
on
today,
but
I'll
just
mention
briefly-
but
you
know
some
of
the
announcements
in
terms
of
looking
at
cool
communities,
some
of
the
announcements
and
looking
at
at
libraries
and
the
other
parts
of
that,
the
ecosystem.
That
is
our
community
and
talks
about
to
me
about
the
well-being
of
every
victorian
and
every
victorian
community.
C
C
Phenomenal
is
what
I
can
say,
so
we
might,
we
might
jump
to
the
next
one
and
then
I'll
kind
of
a
running
sort
of
commentary
as
we
go,
but
looking
at
the
housing
and
homelessness
package
to
begin
with,
when
we
look
at
the
investment
in
social
housing,
all
I
can
say
is
my
state
and
territory.
Colleagues
around
the
country
are
looking
at
this
saying
we
can't
you
know
they
are.
They
would
desperately
love
what
we've
got.
C
C
You
could
would
just
be
phenomenal,
but
in
the
keeping
in
mind
that
it
was
considered
a
very
big
announcement
in
the
last
election,
and
albeit
we
called
it
a
down
payment-
quite
I
think,
quite
rightly,
of
a
thousand
public
housing
properties
over
four
years
in
the
last
state
budget
it
speaks
and
and
on
the
back
of
actually
pretty
much
known
new
housing
for
many
many
years
in
terms
of
social
housing
to
have
9
300,
new
community
housing
homes
and
and
looking
at
the
investment
in
social
housing.
More
broadly
is
significant.
C
I
think
it's
also
significant
that
some
of
it
is
quite
intentionally.
You
know
tagged
for
particular
components
of
particular
members
of
our
community,
so
aboriginal
housing
for
people
with
mental
illness,
etc
and
being
very
deliberate
about
that.
There's
also
some
priority
areas
in
there,
but-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
will
be
of
interest
to
people
on
this
call
is
knowing
that
there's
still
a
lot.
That's
up
for
discussion,
so
there's
a
lot
of
care.
C
I
think
around
saying
we're
not
just
going
to
name
everything
up
front,
because
it's
kind
of
an
easy
thing
to
do,
but
I
think
we
come
back
and
pay
the
price
yeah,
there's
kind
of
allocations
in
areas
knowing
there's
25
percent
in
regional
victoria,
but
in
terms
of
looking
more
broadly
there's
some
very
specific
initial
allocation
areas.
But
there
is
room
for
much
more
conversation
about
where
there
is
real
need.
C
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
commentary
at
the
moment
actually
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
hotel
accommodation,
some
of
that's
a
bit
tricky
for
one
of
a
better
term.
But
what
I
would
recognize
is
the
intent
around
moving
people
into
long-term
permanent
housing,
because
that
is
critically
important.
And
inevitably,
when
we
move
into
the
the
stage
of
you
know
the
implementation
stage,
there's
often
challenges
that
are
attached
to
that.
C
I
would
really
like
to
call
out,
because
it's
been
significant
and
we
have
worked
closely
with
minister
horn
around
the
emergency
rental
measures-
absolute
cudastic
government
on
this
one,
because
again
the
fact
that
they've
been
extended
through
to
march
potentially
april
for
next
year-
that's
been
pretty
phenomenal.
Now
we
know
we're
going
to
have
to
keep
a
really
close
eye
on
that
with
job
seeker
and
job
keeper
etc.
In
terms
of
whether
there
needs
to
be
a
further
extension.
C
But
I
do
want
to
really
recognize
that,
because
I
think,
with
the
magnitude
of
the
big
housing
build
it's
easy
to
overlook
that.
But
we
know
we've
got
more
people
renting
than
who've
ever
rented
before,
and
the
the
impact
of
the
the
rental
measures
are
really
important.
So
if
we
could
jump
to
the
next
site,
I'm
mindful
of
time,
so
I
won't
spend
as
long
on
each
one,
but
I'm
very
excited
about
the
the
housing
package.
I
have
to
admit
jobs
and
skills
again
I'll.
C
C
But,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
I
think
one
of
the
key
things
we've
seen
here
is
that
significant
investment
in
jobs
in
wage
subsidies
etc
for
a
number
of
the
things
that
you're
looking
at
here
again,
I
think
there's
still
a
lot
of
work,
understandably
to
be
done
in
the
implementation
stage
and
I'm
pretty
excited
about
what
that
will
look
like
and
looking
again
how
it
tags
in
with
the
presentation
that
we
just
gave
to
think.
Well
actually,
how
does
this
kind
of
help
us
tag
in
where
there's
particular
opportunities
in
particular
communities?
C
I
think
in
that
sort
of
that
recovery
workforce,
particularly
I
and
from
my
end
as
well-
I'm
really
looking
at
a
community
services,
they're
jobs
that
can't
be
automated
they're
jobs,
we're
all
going
to
need
and
we're
going
to
need
more
of,
but
also
knowing
that
for
some
of
the
construction
jobs,
I'm
thrilled
that
actually
they've
gone
to
areas
such
as
social
housing
and
there's
also
some
procurement
and
again
call
out
to
weight
on
this.
One.
C
Who
knows
an
awful
lot
of
work
in
that
sort
of
procurement,
space
very
clear
targets
around,
for
example,
having
women
employed
in
apprenticeships
and
those
sorts
of
things
so,
and
but
acknowledging
that
that
hasn't
happened.
Yet
so
there's
a
bit
of
work
to
be
done
to
make
that
happen,
but
really
a
call
out
on
that.
One
I'll
jump
to
the
next
slide,
and
I'm
just
going
to
have
a
quick
look
at
time.
So
I
might
need
to
move
it
along
a
bit.
Free
kinder
in
2020
is
phenomenal.
C
The
new
funding
model
for
students
with
disability
is
incredible
in
terms
of
it's
actually
going
to
double
a
number
of
students
who
can
get
support
in
the
classroom
and
pick
up
many
students
who
currently
miss
out
because
they
don't
meet
particular
criteria.
So
therefore,
they're
knocked
out
of
getting
assistance
altogether.
C
This
is
having
worked
in
his
space
previously,
when
I
saw
the
detail
of
this
announcement,
it's
actually
phenomenal
and
possibly
much
better
than
a
number
of
people
currently
realise
it's
much.
It's
a
very
strong
strength
based
model
and
it's
going
to
provide
assistance
to
a
number
of
children
who
currently
miss
out
on
support.
C
I
won't
go
into
that
in
detail
just
because
of
the
timing,
but
it
is
it's
something
to
keep
an
eye
on,
because
we
know
when
we
look
at
schools
and
early
learning.
Basically,
we
know
if
a
student
starts
school
and
they
are
behind.
It
is
almost
impossible
for
them
to
catch
up
without
significant
intervention.
So
this
is
a
huge
announcement
on
top
of
the
three-year-old
kinder
four-year-old
kinder
and
then
looking
at
the
assistance
for
kids
with
disability,
as
well
so
I'll
jump
to
the
next
one.
C
But
I'm
again
another
one,
I'm
really
excited
about
it's
actually
hard
to
not
be
excited
about.
Most
of
this,
to
be
honest,
health
and
mental
health
people
would
be
aware
that
we've
got
the
royal
commission
into
mental
health,
that's
being
handed
down
soon,
so
the
government's
already
committed
to
funding
that
a
huge
mental
health
package
that's
been
delivered
as
a
response
to
the
interim
report
of
the
royal
commission,
but
we
know
there's
much
more
to
come
here.
C
There's
other
components
in
here
that
again
a
month
of
time
I
won't
jump
into,
but
again
pretty
significant
investments
in
mental
health.
Knowing
that
there's
more
to
come
and
on
my
work,
given
that
we've
just
had
a
budget
november,
we've
got
another
one
coming
in
may.
I
would
expect
to
see
much
more
for
mental
health
as
well
coming
in
the
may
budget.
I
might
move
forward
to
the
next
one.
Thank
you,
children
and
families
again.
This
is
an
interesting
example
of
another
one
that
in
any
other
any
normal
year.
C
I
don't
think
on
budget
day
because
it
was
just
such
a
big
big
budget,
but
knowing
that-
and
it
is
a
great
article
that
joel
topsport
had
in
the
paper
today
and
lyanna
buchanan,
released
a
report
yesterday
around
the
number
of
kids
who
exit
you,
know,
sort
of
foster
care
or
resid
care
type
arrangements
and
actually
end
up
in
our
in
our
justice
system
or
end
up
unemployed,
end
up
homeless,
etc.
This
is
a
pretty
phenomenal
announcement
around
the
home
stretch
campaign
and
allowing
young
people
to
stay
with
their
existing
foster.
C
You
know
parents
of
kinship
sort
of
arrangements
up
to
21
years.
I
think
that's
going
to
provide
an
awful
amount
of
scaffold,
a
great
amount
of
scaffolding,
another
one
I'm
personally
very
excited
about,
but
I'm
kind
of
keen
to
look
at
this
one
in
a
bit
more
detail
and
potentially
ramp
it
up.
They
get
active
kids
voucher.
I
just
think
it's
so
wrong
that,
basically
you
get
to
pay
sport
if
you've
got
enough
money
to
be
able
to
pay,
and
if
you
don't,
you
miss
out
it's
such
a
strong
strength-based
component.
C
So
I
am
looking
at
the
figures
to
be
honest
around
here
and
thinking
right
back
when
the
ema
existed.
I
know
there
was
about
250
000
students
who
were
on
the
ema
at
the
time
we've
had
significant
growth,
I'm
keen
to
look
at
the
numbers
here
in
a
bit
more
detail,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
these
vouchers
get
to
every
kid
who
needs
them.
C
I
won't
touch
on
everything
else,
because
it's
it
other
than
the
echoes
is
really
important
in
terms
of
looking
at
that
importance
of
aboriginal
assistance
for
aboriginal
children
and
our
aboriginal
population
and
that
connection
back
to
eccos
and
that
connection
to
country
etc
as
well
is
really
important.
I
might
just
jump
through
quickly.
The
next
ones
are
energy
efficiency.
It's
actually
quite
hard.
I
have
to
say
to
truncate
this
because
there
is
so
much
in
there.
I
am
assuming
people
on
the
call
are
probably
across
a
lot
of
this.
C
But
again
I
said
to
the
minister
when
we
got
the
little
shout
out
about
this
one
beforehand,
one
of
the
really
nice
things
about
this
announcement
and
kudos
to
the
ministry.
It's
pretty
tricky,
I
think,
to
get
all
of
these
things
up
together.
This
knits
back
in
really
neatly
with
a
social
housing
announcement,
because
the
social
housing
properties
that
will
be
built
are
seven
star
efficiency,
plus
we
know
with
existing
homes
that
one
of
the
biggest
issues
we
have
is
around
the
cost
of
energy.
C
You
know:
we've
got
people
who
are
presenting
to
hospitals
that
are
close
to
dying
in
winter,
because
they
haven't
turned
the
heater
on
they're,
so
worried
about
what
the
cost
is
and
with
the
need
for
us
to
make
sure
that
people
can
access.
Affordable,
heating
and
cooling
is
really
important.
So
these
announcements
around
for
existing
social
housing
properties,
the
energy
efficiency
upgrades
plus
that
repeating
or
replacing
old
heaters
with
efficient,
reverse
cycle
conditions
is
a
really
good
one.
C
As
there's
a
solar
panel
rebates
and
the
power
saving
bonus
for
victorian
households,
if
for
people
who
are
more
vulnerable,
acknowledging
there's
people
who
miss
out
there.
So
if
you
look
at,
for
example,
young
people-
sorry,
you
know
people
who
are
on
temporary
protection,
visas,
etc
for
a
raft
of
reasons
they
miss
out,
but
I'll
jump
through
this
one,
but
again
just
wanting
to
call
out
the
energy
efficiency
component
federal
budget.
C
I
have
to
say,
I
think
the
there's
there's
a
really
interesting
contrast
to
me
between
the
state
and
the
federal
budget,
in
that
the
state
went
really
hard
into
looking
at
the
victorian
community
and
the
well-being
of
the
victorian
community.
The
federal
budget,
the
biggest
call-out
for
me,
is
around
jobseeker
and
the
fact
that
there
still
is
no
permanent
increase
to
the
job-seeker
payment
and
we've
got
the
coronavirus
supplement
being
reduced
again
in
january.
C
So
a
it
was
a
great
thing
for
them
because
they
weren't
living
in
abject
poverty,
but
b
it
was
stimulating
the
economy.
At
the
same
time,
the
contrast,
I
think
in
terms
of
no
investment
in
social
housing,
early
childhood
and
care
those
sorts
of
things
and
that
support
for
people
and
temporary
visas,
isn't
there
the
wage
subsidies
for
people
under
35
and
that
sort
of
job
maker
announcement
is
an
interesting
one.
There's
concerns
that
I
have
around
what
about
if
you're
over
35,
but
also
potentially
displacing
people
in
existing
roles.
C
It's
something
I'm
quite
concerned
about.
I
think
we'll
need
to
see
if
that
pays
out
I'll
jump
to
the
next
slide.
I
think
it
touches
on
equal
pay
funding
a
little
bit
more
as
well.
Oh
there's
a
bit
more
around
jobs
than
income
which
I'll
just
touch
on
there.
I
think
I
might
have
mentioned
most
of
these
as
well.
Probably
my
biggest
personal
bug.
There
is
around
personal
tax
cuts
being
brought
forward.
C
To
be
perfectly
frank,
and
I
think
when
you
look
at
the
winding
back
of
supports,
etc.
You
know
it
just
speaks
to
that
part
around
government's
fund,
what
they
value
and-
and
we
can
see
that
real-
that
shift
might
jump
to
the
next
one
community
services,
equal
remuneration
order.
Everyone,
I
think,
on
this
school,
be
acutely
aware
of
that.
C
That
was
a
real
concern
for
us
in
terms
of
looking
at
contracts
where
this
is
pretty
much
falling
off
a
cliff,
you
can
see
there,
who's
been
funded,
who
hasn't
so
there's
some
good
news
stories
in
there
and
there's
still
some
unfinished
work
that
we're
going
to
need
to
look
at
the
other.
One
is
around.
You
know
cuts
to
services
for
people
seeking
asylum,
which
was
one
of
those
tricky
ones.
C
That
was
hard
to
sort
of
find
through
the
initial
cut
of
the
budget
papers,
but
that's
going
to
be
pretty
significant
as
well
I'll
jump
to
the
next
one.
I'm
really
mindful
I'm
running
over
time
here.
Health
telehealth,
I
think,
is
a
good
one
again
keeping
in
mind
of
what
might
what
that
means
for
in
terms
of
digital
divide,
but
overall
and
there's
lots
of
unanswered
questions
around
that
one.
C
A
D
Yeah
look,
I
suppose
our
starting
point
in
relation
to
livability
is
if
you
want
to
grow
jobs
in
a
local
area,
and
you
want
to
have
a
diversity
of
jobs.
You've
also
got
to
have
places
where
people
will
want
to
work,
and
there
needs
to
be
a
recognition
that,
for
all
of
us,
there's
things
that
we
love
about
where
we
live
and
there's
things
that
frustrate
the
hell
out
of
us,
because
it's
it's
different
to
what
we've
seen
elsewhere.
D
D
So
I
suppose,
from
my
media's
point
of
view,
whilst
we
don't
dig
right
down
into
sort
of
the
street
by
street
liveability
aspects
right
across
the
entire
western
region.
What
really
is
saying
when
we
talk
to
three
levels
of
government
is
the
investments
that
you
will
make
the
jobs
that
will
grow
in
particular
areas
like
sunshine.
There
is
component
parts
of
our
economic
centres
that
we
will
look
to,
such
as
open
space,
streetscape
urban
design,
diversity
of
housing,
transport
connectivity.
D
All
of
those
things
which
give
a
vibrance
about
our
local
economic
hubs
that
people
not
only
want
to
work
there.
They
want
to
live
there
as
well.
So
when
we
talk
about
livability
jason,
it's
really
in
those
very
broad
terms.
We
don't
want
communities
to
be
dormant.
We
don't
want
communities
to
be
good
for
some
and
not
everyone,
so
it's
really
about
bringing
a
recognition
to
those
areas.
I
hope
that
sort
of
broadly
answers
the
question.
A
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
way
to
perhaps
just
sticking
out
with
you
for
a
minute.
You
talked
a
couple
of
times
there
about
employment
as
well,
and
there
was
a
question
somebody
referenced
your
comments
about
people
in
the
west,
often
leaving
the
west
for
work.
Have
you
also
looked
at
the
numbers
of
people
who
are
coming
into
the
west
for
work
and
where
there's
a
mismatch
between
available
skills
and
available
positions.
D
D
Some
of
the
really
big
sort
of
gaps
are
that
we
have
about
50
000
workers
in
melbourne's,
west,
working
in
sort
of
professional
services,
a
sort
of
white
collar
jobs.
Perhaps
at
the
higher
income
level
we
have.
We
have
a
disproportionately
low
level
of
those
jobs
available
in
melbourne's
west.
So
again,
it's
not
to
call
out
one
industry
over
another,
because
all
industries
are
important
in
terms
of
the
future
growth
and
social
services
and
health
and
education
are
going
to
be
some
of
the
big
areas
of
growth.
D
But
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
putting
an
airport
rail
link
or
suburban
rail
through
sunshine.
Suddenly
private
developers
are
wanting
to
come
and
talk
about
building
offices
for
professional
workers
in
sunshine,
and
that's
not
to
me
that
sunshine's
suddenly
going
to
change
its
face
overnight,
but
it
is
about
bringing
a
diversity
of
job
opportunities
so
that
when
the
next
generation
of
people
moving
into
the
west
or
young
people
are
being
educated
in
the
west
or
looking
at
their
job
options,
they
can
actually
have
a
greater
choice
than
they've
had
to
now.
D
So
it's
really
a
recognition
that
we
do
have
people
in
the
west
that
are
already
working
in
particular
areas
and
professional
services
is
one
of
those
areas,
but
they're,
actually
traveling
out
of
melbourne's
west
to
get
employment.
We
want
to
bring
more
of
those
jobs
in
order
to
do
that,
we've
got
to
attract
employers
to
want
to
invest
and
they're
already
looking
very
seriously
at
sunshine
in
particular,
because
the
fact
that
there'll
be
a
mass
capacity
to
move
people
in
and
out
of
that
some
economic
precincts.
A
Thank
you
amber.
I
wonder
if
you
had
comments
to
make
in
relation
to
the
employment
picture,
particularly
in
brimbank
and
the
west,
you
touched
a
bit
on
the
impacts
of
covert,
particularly
for
women
and
for
younger
people
and
the
fact
that
the
state
budget,
you
know
brought
particular
attention
to
young
people
from
culturally
and
linguistically
diverse
backgrounds.
What
are
your
thoughts
about
the
economic
opportunities
arising
out
of
the
budgets
for
brimbank.
C
Oh,
I
would
imagine,
I
suspect,
wade
and
others
on.
This
call
are
probably
already
on
to
this
actually
in
terms
of
looking
at
where
people
have
been
particularly
impacted,
and
we
know
in
terms
of
looking
at
brimbank,
for
example,
when
we
look
at
the
the
data
in
terms
of
unemployment
and
that
sort
of
that
local
data
and
also
the
data
actually
on
poverty
and
we've
got
our
poverty
maps
online.
C
If
anyone
wanted
to
jump
on
those
and
have
a
look
as
well,
it
just
shows
where
we
need
that
really
targeted
support,
and
I
think
for
me
one
of
the
reasons
we
did.
The
poverty
maps
going
back
a
little
while
it
was
to
show
the
local
characteristics
of
each
area
and
actually
particularly
looking
at
the
importance
of
organization,
or
you
know,
entities
such
as
local
government
to
say.
Well,
there
are
some
things
that
are
systematic,
such
as
jobseeker
and
job
keeper,
etc.
C
C
But
it's
about
actually
tailoring
responses
to
the
needs
of
communities,
and
I
do
think
we've
got
this
particular
opportunity
right
now
by
virtue
of
things
that
are
happening
at
a
state
and
a
federal
level,
but
joining
them
up
really
tightly
with
that
local
need
so
yeah,
broad
systemic
issues,
but
also
looking
at
actually
how.
What
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
at
a
local
level
in
terms
of
understanding
the
local
need
and
the
data's
there
and
it
speaks
for
itself.
C
A
Lovely
thank
you.
I
mean
you've
touched
on
this
in
the
chat
in
in
zoom,
one
of
the
one
of
the
really
important
factors
in
setting
up
a
good
start
to
life
in
education
and,
ultimately,
employment
is
access
to
early
education.
There
was
a
question
about
access
to
four-year-olds
kinder.
Do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
C
C
One
of
the
challenges
we've
got
in
four-year-old
kinder
is
that
the
15
hours
of
funded
four-year-old
kinder
is
subject
to
a
national
partnership
agreement
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
matter
which
color
of
politics
is
in
at
a
state
level
trying
to
lock
in
that
national
partnership
agreement,
often
for
longer
than
12
months,
let
alone
in
advance
is
an
enormous
challenge.
So,
just
to
answer
that
question
really
directly,
that's
been
a
problem
forever
and
it
brings
a
huge
amount
of
pain.
C
Actually,
when
it
comes
to
services
who
are
trying
to
provide
in
advance
around,
how
do
you
you
know?
How
do
you
give
families
a
certainty,
etc
that
they
need?
It
always
seems
to
get
there,
but
gee.
Sometimes
it's
been
pretty
damn
late
and
it
makes
it
really
hard
for
services
that
are
planning
around
how
they
you
know
the
services
that
they'll
provide
going
forward.
C
Education
is
well
it's
great
because
it
lets
primarily
mums
work.
Yep,
that's
good,
but
actually
it's
amazing
for
kids
and
their
long-term
trajectory
and
I
feel
like
that
often
gets
overlooked
and
the
the
value
of
that
is
often
overlooked.
So
slight
extension
to
the
in
my
answer,
jason.
But
it's
something,
I
think
is
so
critically
important.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
emma
I'm,
I'm
I'm
so
mindful
of
the
time
and
wanting
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
space
for
people
to
have
a
break
before
we
delve
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
into
discussion
in
the
topic
areas,
perhaps
to
throw
to
both
of
you.
We
have
a
number
of
you
know,
folks,
on
the
call
who
are
local
residents
in
the
greenbank
area
or
are
working
in
ngos
and
other
organizations
servicing
the
brim
bank
area
from
each
of
your
your
perspectives.
A
What
are
the
the
kind
of
lead
opportunities
for
people
to
be
engaging
with?
What's
come
out
of
the
state
budget
really
to
improve
experience
and
access
for
people
in
the
brimbank
area?
I
know
that's
a
tough
question
because
there's
so
much
there,
but
you
know
some
really
high
impact
opportunities
that
folks
might
engage
with.
D
I
might
go
first
and
give
emma
the
last
word
and
it's
terrific
to
be
co-presenting
with
emma
today,
because
they
do
such
great
work
right
across
victoria
and
and
much
of
what
we've
seen
in
the
budget
comes
from
the
advocacy
of
the
costs.
They
always
bring
evidence
to
the
table,
so
it's
really
lovely
to
be
co-presenting
with
them
up,
but
I
I
did
want
to
say,
look
think
about
an
airport
rail
link
as
not
just
a
stop
in
sunshine.
It's
a
jobs
corridor
for
10
years.
D
There's
a
great
project
that
I've
looked
at
over
in
the
uk.
It
was
an
upgrade
of
a
sewer
line,
not
a
particularly
attractive
project.
I
know
in
london,
over
25,
kilometers
and
part
of
the
legacy
of
that
project
was
that
workers
were
drawn
from
the
postcodes
in
which
that
sewer
line
ran
and
it
ran
through
some
pretty
disadvantaged
areas.
I
think
there's
a
wonderful
opportunity
through
brimbank's
leadership.
My
meter-
and
I
know
v
cost-
supports
the
social
procurement
aspects
of
the
victorian
government
to
look
at
a
jobs
corridor
project
like
airport
rail
link.
D
Yes,
it
will
create
opportunities
for
sunshine
and
brim
bank,
but
why
not
think
about
it
as
having
some
requirements
about
drawing
opportunities
out
for
workers
who
are
looking
for
work,
not
just
in
brimbank
but
across
melbourne's
west?
I
think
that's
a
really
great
centerpiece,
which
is
can
be
extended
into
areas
such
as
the
one
that
emma
talked
about
in
terms
of
social
housing.
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
wait
for
your
incredibly
kind
words
and
I
have
to
say
kudos
to
wade
for
everything
he
did,
particularly
as
a
minister
to
make
actually
in
the
leading
work
to
make
this
happen
as
well
and
to
everyone
on
this
call
because
wade's
point
around
that
traditional
under
investment
in
the
west.
It's
profound-
and
this
is
our
chance
to
actually
redress
some
of
that
imbalance.
C
So
just
to
add
that
in
in
addition
to
the
points
that
we've
made
and
the
other
thing
that
we're
really
calling
for
looking
forward
is
a
well-being
budget,
because
really,
if
you've
got
actually,
I
know
this
has
just
changed,
but
we've
always
sort
of
said
you
can
have
a
aaa
credit
rating.
But
if
you've
got
a
aaa
credit
rating
and
100
000
people
who
own
a
waiting
list
for
a
house,
what
does
that
mean
about
your
society?
C
C
I
think
that's
really
important
and
we
we're
having
some
pretty
good
conversations
about
that
now
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
join
with
everyone
on
this
call
to
kind
of
say
well
actually,
how
do
we
deliver
for
well-being
for
everyone
who
is
in
the
bring
bank
of
the
broader
west
and
north
communities?
How
do
we
deliver
so
if,
for
example,
if
we're
looking
at
an
infrastructure
project,
how
does
that
deliver
towards
well-being
and
having
governments
report?
C
You
know
accordingly,
as
I
do
in
new
zealand
and
looking
at
what
happens
in
in
scotland
and
iceland
and
other
areas.
I
just
think
we've
got
this
real
moment.
Ironically,
that's
come
through
a
pandemic
can
come
through
enormous
hardship.
How
do
we
take
that,
and
actually
to
be
candid,
I
think
it's
created
opportunities
we
would
not
have
had
otherwise.
A
Right
right
and
there's
a
a
great
silver
lining
to
an
otherwise
dreadful
experience
and
highlighting
not
a
particularly
new
experience
either
that's
been
a
long
running
equity
issues,
so
much
richness
in
that
discussion.
We
could
continue
talking
for
hours,
but
some
really
valuable
insights
from
from
both
of
you
to
set
us
up
for
the
next
phase
of
our
discussion
today.