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Tricaster stream validation test - CSSC 20230503
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ADJOURNMENT
A
A
A
A
B
C
D
B
C
A
B
F
G
My
name
is
Christina
plarkowski
I've
lived
in
Brisbane
now
about
12
years.
I
am
both
a
Transit
Advocate
and
a
commute
bicycle.
A
commuter
bicyclist
I
want
to
make
that
distinction,
because
we
tend
to
think
of
cycling
as
a
recreation,
rather
than
an
essential
form
of
transportation
and
I'm
here,
to
offer
myself
as
one
of
the
people
here
in
Brisbane
who's
interested
in
this
topic
and
wants
to
help
support
you.
G
However,
this
meeting
time
is
terrible
for
me,
so
I'm
identifying
myself
as
somebody
who's
interested
in
bringing
an
infrastructure
not
just
a
table
every
May
where
we
give
away
bananas
and
tote
packs,
we
really
need
to
start
developing
a
plan
so
that
anytime,
there
is
work
done
in
the
city
on
the
streets.
We
can
start
implementing
that
plan
even
incrementally.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
for
coming
and
in
the
2023
working
plan.
We
have
several,
you
know,
bicycle
related
topics,
and
we
would
definitely
appreciate,
and
quite
frankly
need
your
the
type
of
input
that
you
will
provide
to
us,
especially
you
know
you're
making
that
distinction
that
you
do
this
as
a
commute,
not
just
Recreation.
B
C
D
B
B
B
B
B
We
have
addressed
as
a
committee,
and
we
would
like
to
you
know,
for
the
sake
of
the
or
the
agenda
of
the
program
that
we
put
together
for
2023
that
actually
we
worked
on
it
two
months
already
and
we
were
like
excited
to
do
that.
So
we
want
to
see
and
get
get
more
clarification.
What
is
the
scope
and
help
of
this
new?
You
know
going
over
again.
B
H
So
so
yeah
I
mean
I
and,
from
my
perspective,
kind
of
after
just
getting
a
fresh
look.
I
looked
at
a
month
ago
and
I
looked
at
the
the
meeting.
The
council
meeting
I
watched
the
video
a
month
ago
and
I
watched
it
this
morning
to
give
myself
a
second
refresher
on
what
what
it
was
that
they
kind
of
discussed
over
there
and
I.
Think
some
of
the
points
seem
pretty
that
they're
asking
for
clarification
on
and
what
they're
looking
at,
at
least
from
what
I
saw.
H
But
and
so
it
might
be
good
to
see
how
long
it
takes
to
go
today,
but
I
also
kind
of
like
the
idea
if
it
goes
further
than
today
just
start
looking
and
see.
If
we
can
do
that
where
we
can
meet
with
the
council
and
and
try
to
create
made
a
subcommittee
for
specific
to
the
parking
program.
So
we
can
really
focus,
have
a
focused
focus
group
on
that
section.
H
B
Could
yeah
so
so
I
mean
you
know,
I
appreciate
the
your
your
your
answer
in
terms
of
you
know:
I
guess
what
I
your
initial
answer
is.
Actually
what
I
was
looking
for?
You
know
just
to
get
a
feel
how
the
committee
you
know
my
my
mindset
is
in
terms
of
you
know,
handling
this
big
project
that
we
have
worked
for
quite
a
for
quite
some
time.
We
all
we
are
all
familiar
with
it.
You
know,
but
now
going
forward.
A
D
It's
a
with
this.
What
we're
looking
at
right
here!
This
is
essentially
the
staff
feedback.
You
know
comments
on
what
was
talked
about
is
typical.
What
happens
next
is
I
guess
we
would
want
to
come
back
with
revision
and
answer
these
sort
of
questions
specifically
or
is
it
sort
of
a
revision
of
the
document
we
originally
had
sent
to
council?
You
know
the
proposal,
for
example,.
D
Okay,
so
I
guess
that
would
be
one
option-
is
to
have
a
revised
staff
report
that
we
would
then
sort
of
suggest.
If
we
want
to
address
these
points,
that's
one
option
and
then
I
guess:
okay,
yeah
I,
think
your
approach,
you
know
going
through
this
today
at
some
point
and
then
going
back
and
discussion.
If
that's
an
option,
I
think
that
sounds
good,
I
think
there's
also
we've.
D
E
E
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
go
back
to
the
council
and
ask
for
any
more
advice
at
this
point,
but
simply
go
through
what
is
the
most?
What
are
the
things
that
we
really
didn't?
Look
at
like
multi-generational
homes,
a
more
something
that's
just
a
little
bit
more
solid
to
bring
back
about
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
that
nailing
down
some
of
the
the
gray
areas.
B
Okay,
so
sounds
good
all
right
so
with
that
said,
I
think,
let's
get
into
the
into
the
topics
that
a
staff
put
together
and
if
we
have
time
we're
going
to,
you
know
get
into
Linda's
point,
but
if
they
are
the
same,
you
know.
Obviously
we
don't
need
to
do
that.
One
of
the
things
that
we
you
know
so
as
we
are
processing
you
know
this.
This
topics
we
could
probably
have
like
different
buckets.
B
You
know
some
of
them
could
be
like
administrator
oriented
or
something
that
staff
could
take
care
and
some
of
some
other
ones
could
be
more
philosophical
and
for
the
sake
of
time
you
know,
let's
try
to
be
more
on
the
point
and
then
other
ones
are
going
to
be
more.
You
know
like
like,
like
technical,
so
let's,
let's
go
ahead.
The
first
one
is
emergency
parking
situation.
How
do
we
handle
so
when
they
talk
about
emergency
emergency
parking
situation?
B
So
the
question
is:
how
do
you
handle
those
cars?
So
you
know
they
don't
get.
They
don't
get
a
fine.
But
having
said
that,
the
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
from
what
I
gather
from
the
from
their
discussion
is
they're
sort
of
moving
away
from
what
we
have
originally
suggested.
You
know
to
get
a
a
third
party
to
take
care
of
this,
and
now
the
thinking
is
more
like.
B
Let's
do
what
you
know.
We
did
talk
about
this.
Let's
do
Zone
and
we're
going
to
do
a
trial
like
a
pilot
study
and
we're
going
to
use
stickers.
So
keep
that
in
mind
in
the
in
the
sense
that
we
don't
want
to
answer
all
this
question
and
then
the
the
council
is
sort
of
like
saying
you
know
we're
going
to
go
on
this
direction
or
we
could
go
ahead
and
answer
all
the
questions.
C
C
C
I,
just
I,
don't
think
there
was
that
much.
There
was
no
discussion,
they
just
kind
of
and
when
you
say
the
council,
there
were
five
and
they
all
had
different
thoughts.
So
there
was
no
one
unified
thought
that
we
got
from
them.
So
you
know
from
a
couple
of
them.
They
talked
about
a
particular
thing,
doesn't
mean
I
I,
don't
think
they
gave
clear
direction
that
we
want
this
and
not
that
I
think
they
said
there
are
these
one-off
situations
and
we
want
them
to
be
codified.
We
don't
want
to
say
like
on
a
case-by-case.
C
Somebody
will
be
deciding
if
my
adult
daughter
can
come
back
home
and
live
and
have
an
extra
car.
We
want
to
know
what
the
what
the
rules
are
going
to
be.
We
want
to
know
what
the
rules
are
going
to
be.
If
someone
has
to
come
over
in
an
emergency,
Linda
has
a
flood
and
she
calls
her
daughter
and
she
drives
over
and
they
deal
with
the
you.
C
They
were
concerned
about
the
cost,
the
cost
to
do
the
enforcement.
That's
I
think
why
Cliff
asked
about
6
to
10
p.m.
So
that's
staff
will
look
into
that
with
Labs,
whether
they
have
Personnel,
because
what
they
told
us
is
ten
to
six.
They
would
need
to
hire
staff
just
for
us.
So
are
there
different
hours
that
still
make
sense
that
could
be
incorporated
into
the
facility
or
the
the
equipment
or
the
the
Manpower
that
they
have?
But
we
do
you
know
we
didn't
discuss
license
plate
reading
and
staff
still
strongly
recommends.
C
Staying
with
that,
I
don't
know.
It
was
also
an
interesting
conversation
about
wanting
to
be
able
to
call
in
on
a
car
that
didn't
belong
on
the
street,
where
we
were
trying
to
propose
a
really
Anonymous
you
didn't
because
they
they
talked
about
that
people
can
call
and
it
can
be
complaint
based,
but
they
didn't
talk
about
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
people
say
they
don't
want
to
be
the
one
to
call,
and
my
neighbor
knows
when
I'm
the
one
that
calls
I
don't
want
to
be.
C
B
So
to
speak,
but
but
to
your
point
the
council,
you
know
they
have
different
opinions
and
then
how
do
we
go
about
managing
those
expectations
like
if
we?
If
so,
if,
let's
say
one
console
that
okay,
you
know
the
Plate
Reader
is
the
way
to
go,
but
the
only
one,
the
other
one
is
thinking.
Why
don't
we
do
the
the
sticker
and
the
title
study
in
one
Street?
B
So
when
you
answer
those
questions,
you
need
to
more
or
less
know
in
what
content
you're
going
to
answer.
Are
you
going
to
answer
it?
Like
this
emergency
parking
situation,
do
we
just
answer
it
as
as
we
as,
if
we'll
continue
thinking
that
the
you
know
hiring
a
third
party
to
handle
it
with
a
Plate,
Reader
or
or
one
contact?
You
know
you
sort
of
structure.
Our
answers
to
you
know
to
get
somewhere
with
what
they
want,
provided
that
they
were
not
as
specific
and
they
were
all
over.
C
That's
a
good
question,
I
think
I
I
think
a
couple
of
things
two
Liaisons
have.
Typically
you
use
a
subcommittee
to
because
they're
the
most
interested
in
the
topic
and
they
kind
of
have
the
pulse
of
that
topic.
There's
an
infrastructure
subcommittee,
there's
a
budget
subcommittee
of
the
council
and-
and
they
want
to
be
the
there's,
a
planning
subcommittee
and
when
those
that
subcommittee
recommends
something
to
the
full
Council,
the
rest
of
them
say
you
did
the
Deep
dive
we're
going
to
back
what
you
recommend
here.
C
I.
Don't
think
we
have
that
case
with
this
parking
thing,
because
it's
as
sensitive
as
you
all
know
it
is
you
guys
didn't
want
to
put
your
name
on
it.
If
I
lived
in
the
town,
I
don't
know
if
I
would
want
to
be
the
one
that
says,
I
think
this
is
the
way
it
should
be.
It's
so
we've
got
five
people
with
varying
I,
don't
know
if
they're,
even
each
one
of
them
is
sure
what
the
program
should
look
like
for
themselves
and
I,
don't
know
if
they
will
coalesce,
even
as
a
majority
around.
C
We
don't
know
if
we'll
get
a
program
out
of
this,
but
I
think
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
come
back
one
more
time
with
basically
the
bones
of
what
you
guys
present.
It
came.
You
know,
decided
and
recommended
with
details
about
the
questions
that
came
up
and
if
they
reject
it,
they
reject
it
and
then
maybe
we're
you
know,
we've
done
what
we've
done,
but
I
think
we
need
to
continue
on
the
path
that
we
started
on
but
address
then
the
nuances
and
the
inconsistencies
that
came
up
at
the
council
meeting.
E
Just
touching
back
on
not
wanting
to
put
our
names
on
it,
I
didn't
want
to
put
my
name
on
it,
because
that
wasn't
our
job.
Our
job
was
to
come
up
with
the
information
and
not
to
take
a
vote
on
whether
or
not
we
agreed
with
it.
But
it
was
the
best
work
that
we
could
do
as
a
group
and,
if
I
needed,
to
put
my
name
on
it,
I
would
because
I
worked
very
hard
on
it,
and
so
did
everybody
else,
but
it
wasn't
like
our
vote
was
going
to
mean
anything.
E
It's
just
it's
a
presentation
from
our
entire
committee,
so
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
about
why
I
was
reluctant
to
do
that.
It's
it's
a
committee
assignment
and
not
an
individual
assignment,
whether
I
agree
with
wanting
parking
permits
or
not
is
irrelevant.
I
took
this
job
and
I'm
going
to
do
the
best
I
can,
as
for
going
back
to
the
Liaisons
and
asking
them
for
more
help.
Some
of
them
have
many
many
many
committees
that
they
need
to
pay
attention
to
they've.
E
Given
us
our
information
to
the
best
of
their
ability,
we've
all
been
asked
to
go
back
and
watch
the
video
I
think
all
of
us
have
and
to
pull
from
there.
What
are
the
items
that
we
need
to
address,
and
we
know
that
we
address
some
things
very
deeply.
That
could
not
be
responded
to
during
that
meeting
at
open
comment.
E
The
council
couldn't
respond,
so
I
think
liaison
time
is
important
to
respect
and
not
keep
bringing
them
in
every
time
we
have
a
question,
but
rather
addressing
it
amongst
ourselves
and
trying
to
trying
to
move
forward
from
there.
There's
just
a
few
things
that
I
see
that
came
up
that
were
not
things
that
we
discussed
or
and
I
think
those
are
the
things
we
should
pull
out
of.
All
of
this
and
I
think
Greg
made
a
really
great
list.
E
Also
mine,
you
can
throw
away,
was
useless
compared
to
these
two
and
you
know
just
see
what
is
it
that
we
missed
and
then
create
either
work
together
or
create
subcommittees
to
kind
of
brainstorm
on
that
and
bring
it
back
for
our
next
meeting
and
report
on
that
and
then
see.
If
the
rest
of
the
committee
agrees
or
wants
to
add
anything,
and
that
would
probably
be
our
cleanest
way
to
go
forward
with
this
and
I
hope,
I
get
some
agreement.
B
Okay,
no
definitely,
those
are,
you
know
very
good
points
and
we
could
spend
all
night.
You
know
it's
just
going
in
circles
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
you
know.
Well,
what
would
be
the
best
approach,
provided
you
know
what
transpire
in
that
in
that
meeting
to
my
opinion,
what
we
did
to
a
certain
extents
was,
quite
frankly
rejected,
so
who
bought
these
questions?
At
the
same
time,
we
feel
that
we
answer
them.
So
let
me
go
ahead
and
answer
the
first
one,
and
then
we
could
go.
B
You
know
to
the
next
committees
and
then
give
staff
a
crack
at
it
and
I
guess
if
you
don't
feel
comfortable,
you
just
say
pass
and
or
also
we're
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
work
this
with
more
time
and
then
bring
out
provide
our
Answers
by
by
writing.
Because
you
know
sometimes
you
know,
we
don't
have
the
the
information
in
front
of
us
or
or
we
need
to
do
a
little
research
or
or
thinking
so
for
emergency
parking
situation.
How
do
we
handle
that?
B
So,
in
my
opinion,
if
we
are
thinking
you
know
that
we're
going
to
have
a
third
party,
you
know
contractor
managing,
as
we
had
said,
then
I
think
we
will
definitely
need
to
ask
them
what
are
the
ways
of
them
handling?
You
know
emerging
Target
situation.
My
guess
is,
it
might
be
something
similar
to
to
gas
parking
and
also
how
to
you
know
if
these
companies,
maybe
there,
that
the
communication
that
will
the
the
we
could
have
with
them,
it
could
be
almost
at
a
real
time.
B
You
know
police
personnel,
the
one
of
the
things
that
they
said,
that
one
of
the
residents
say
was,
you
could
print
a
paper
and
just
put
it
on
a
dashboard
and
then
that
would
that
would
you
know,
take
care
of
that
emerging
parking
situation.
So
that
would
be
you
know
the
two
scenarios
depending
on
how
to
go
that
I
I
see
the
we
we
could.
You
know
address
that
that
question.
So
that's
my
feedback,
Gregory.
H
Yeah
I
think
I
definitely
agree
with
with
definitely
a
lot
of
that.
I
also
think
that
the
with
the
emergency
parking
situation,
I
think
I
think
we
were
you
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
we
were
talking
about
before
any
type
of
like
if
they
got
a
ticket,
for
example.
Let's
say
they
didn't
have
a
parking
permit.
H
This
is
what
happened
that
on
that
day,
I
meant
to
put
in
the
the
number,
but
I
am
a
resident
and
I
already
have
a
permit
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
guest
permit
for
my
friend,
but
they
happened
to
get
the
ticket.
Can
you
take
this
ticket
away
from
me?
I
think
I.
Think
I
don't
think
emergency
property
situations
would
be
such
a
like
if
they
couldn't
get
the
parking
permit,
they
could
easily
appeal
it
even
even
with
our
current
setup
and
then
at
least
that's
what
I
thought
on.
B
That
no,
those
are
very
good
point,
definitely
an
appeal
system.
If
it's
too
late,
if
they
don't
get,
they
didn't
get
the
information
on
time.
There
should
be
some
prerogative
that
they
will
give
the
the
you
know
the
person
a
I
mean
that
happens
in
in
in
in
real
parking
tickets
too.
You
know
you
could
go
ahead
and
fight
it,
so
I
I
definitely
agree
so
that
needs
to
be
in
place.
There
is.
D
A
H
D
B
D
For
example,
I
guess
yeah,
maybe
a
question
is
like
do
we
have
to,
for
example,
do
a
trial
street?
That
was
a
recommendation
from
a
few
of
the
council
people.
Is
that
something
that
if
we,
as
a
subcommittee
already
felt
very
strongly
against
that,
is
that
something
we
just
knock
off
right
away
and
say
Hey,
you
know
we
don't
like
that
idea
and
would
not
be
in
favor
or
is
that
something.
E
Gregory
we've
had
the
opportunity
out
there
for
people
to
do
triers
trial
streets
for
quite
a
while.
Now
and
and
apparently
it's
never
been,
the
opportunity's
never
been
taken
advantage
of,
and
what
I
understand
further
is
that
no
one
wants
to
be
the
first
one
to
start
a
petition
on
their
block
for
a
trial
parking
I
think
that
one
we
can
just
cross
off
the
list
because
it's
been
there.
It's
been
available.
E
E
B
So
I
I
think
that
you
know,
although
it's
not
my
preference,
you
know
we
I
feel
that
if
we
go
question
by
question,
you
know
a
staff
distill.
This
question
from
the
meeting
is
probably
the
way
to
go
because
there,
as
we
know
you
know,
we've
been
going
over
it.
This
is
not
the
first
time
that
this
was
presented
to
them
and
we
have
in
some
of
these
questions.
B
Another
idea
is
once
we
answer
them,
then
we
and
there's
like
if
there's
multiple
answers
or
approaches,
then
we
could
probably
in
the
next
meeting,
come
to
a
consensus
and
harmonize
those
those
answers.
If
we
have
differences
among
I'm
on
each
other,
but
I
think
we
should
go
ahead
and
try
to
be.
You
know
answer
the
questions.
I
must
be
brief
about
it.
E
We've
already
worked
on
that
and
we
know
that
we
have
some
information
that
hasn't
been
disseminated
to
the
public,
so
I
think
we
can
put
that
one
aside
trial
streets,
we
can
put
aside
multi-generational
homes
we
could
put
aside
public
advisory
vote
is
off
the
table
because
we're
going
to
go
to
a
general
vote
codified
exceptions,
that's
something
we
can
add
to
a
list
of
things.
It's
like
the
things
that
we've
already
talked
about.
We
can
bring
that
up
later,
but
the
ones
that
we
haven't
discussed.
E
B
B
So
we
have
11
bullet
points,
and
then
you
know:
if
staff
put
them
together,
you
know
I,
think
and
like
I
said,
even
though
we
feel
that
we
had
answered
those,
do
you,
let
me
put
it.
Let
me
put
it
this
way:
do
you
think
you
could
remember
or
have
some
way
of
answering
this
question
based
on
our
previous
discussion.
C
You're,
asking
staff
I'm
a
little
confused,
actually
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
that
on
my
face,
because
I
know
that
you
guys
we
came
up
with
a
set
of
recommendations,
but
they
ask
questions
and
they
wanted
us
to
look
at
it
differently
and
I.
Hear
dismissing
some
of
these
items,
like
I
mean
ultimately
Council
will
approve
or
not
approve
a
program
and
I
heard
that
they
wanted
us
to
look
at
five
particular
streets
right,
Thomas
to
Larry,
King's,
Alvarado
Humboldt.
So
we're
saying
no
without
even
discussing
it.
C
Mean
I,
understand
and
I
agree.
The
problem
might
move
to
the
next
block.
If
you
can
only
get
two
permits
on
Thomas,
you
might
Park
on
San
Bruno,
but
it's
something
that
then
you
know
we
could
keep
chasing
the
problem.
Maybe
we
will
end
up
with
a
program
in
all
of
the
city,
but
they
want
some
of
them
think
that
the
problem
is
focused
on
some
streets
and
other
streets.
Don't
have
a
problem
so
I'm.
C
We
can
still
the
council
can
decide
we're
doing
it.
Whether
or
not
the
residents
of
all
70
percent
have
signed
a
petition
said
they
wanted
it.
They
can
still,
but
just
like
they
could
do
a
program
on
the
whole
city.
I
don't
know,
would
it
go
to
a
vote?
That's
that
kind
of
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
Actually,
if
it's
five
streets
and
the
whole
city
votes
on
it,.
E
It
doesn't
make
sense.
No
that
doesn't
make
sense.
Yeah
the
whole
town
is
what
we
mapped
out
and
then
someone
probably
who
wasn't
aware
of
the
fact
that
it
was
out
there
as
a
an
opportunity
to
have
trial,
may
have
brought
that
up.
I,
don't
recall
who
brought
it
up,
but
I
know
that
you
know
that
one's
been
out
there
for
quite
a
while
and
discussed
before
so
I'm,
not
dismissing
anything
I'm.
C
Me
distill
what
I,
what
I
thought,
what
I
took
from
the
meeting
and
what
the
list
kind
of
addresses
in
an
emergency
someone's
got
to
come
to
your
house.
I,
just
I
hadn't
looked
at
the
city
of
Chicago,
but
I.
Just
looked
it
up.
A
person
who
lives
in
Brisbane
has
to
I,
don't
know
if
they
have
to
have
their
own
permit,
but
they
have
to
register
and
prove
that
they
live
in
Brisbane
and
set
up
the
system
so
they're
guest
so
that
they
can
apply
for
a
guest
permit
for
their
guest.
C
That
has
to
be
done
ahead
of
time.
That's
not
going
to
happen
in
an
emergency.
I
was
hoping
that
you
could
just
go
on
a
website
type
in
your
license,
plate
number
and
get
in,
and
then
maybe
you
could
do
that
in
an
emergency
anyways.
If
you
just
open
a
window
and
type
in
six
letters,
can
you
do
that?
But
it's
a
lot
harder
than
that.
So
that's
not
going
to
work
for
emergencies
it
may
have.
Maybe
the
only
answer
is
that
you
know
you
have
to
appeal.
C
C
Do
we
want
to
look
at
a
pilot
program
on
a
certain
number
of
streets
to
be
responsive
to
the
council?
Request?
That's
for
the
committee
to
talk
about
the
multi-family
multi-generational
I
I!
Think
that
goes
hand
in
hand
with
codifying
the
exceptions
that
got
more
than
two
drivers
and
two
cars
and
it's
legitimate
that
you'd
be
able
to
park,
and
can
you
switch
back
to
our
list
so.
B
B
C
C
Those
are
all
the
issues
that
I
I
think
I
heard.
How
do
we
administer?
How
do
we
figure
out
who
lives
in
town
staff's
got
that
we
don't
need
any
more
discussion?
They
just
didn't.
Let
us
answer
that
who
is
a
resident?
We
have
just
like
every
other
program.
There
are
ways
to
establish
that
you
have
presidency,
so
I
think
those
are
the
issues.
B
Yeah
yeah,
but
okay,
maybe
I'm
not
and
I'm
gonna
apologize
if
I'm
not
articulating
myself
how
to
to
approach
this
in
a
more
efficient
way.
What
I'm
saying
like
right
now,
you
just
answer
about
seven
questions
and
from
a
practical
matter.
You
know
when
we
talk
about
these
things.
Maybe
we
could
agree.
Why
don't
we
have
a
discussion
and
then
we
could
have
Thomas,
listen
to
the
to
the
discussion
and
answer
these
questions
and
then
provide
it
to
us
and
then
we'll
look
at
it
and
we
co-agree.
B
Yes,
that's
what
we
discussed.
That
would
be
one
one
way
to
approach
it
or
the
other
way
more
systematically
is
just
go
one
by
one
like
like
right
now,
you
just
hit
about
five
questions
and
your
answers
are
I'm
I'm
in
favor
with
them.
That's
that's
what
we
discussed
so
I'm
just
trying
to
see
how
can
we,
you
know
what
we
say
now
or
how
we're
going
to
approach
it?
Let's
move
on.
E
H
I
think
in
terms
of
I
think
very
as
as
actually
as
as
staff
mentioned
before,
as
Karen
mentioned,
I
think
there's
it's
only
specif,
only
certain
specific
ones
that
they
are
really
asking
for,
and
so
my
opinion
is.
We
just
focus
on
those.
You
know,
in
particular
the
trial
thing,
because
that
seemed
like
something
that
the
the
trial
streets
I
think
that
was
something
that
they
that
they
wanted
us
to
look
at,
in
particular,
I
think
whether
we
do
stickers
or
not
that
even
though
I
think
we
kind
of
decide
already.
H
C
Recommended
and
stickers
are
not
less
expensive,
they're
actually
more
because
it's
a
it's
an
item
that
has
to
be
mailed
a
license
plate
is
just
an
online
you're
registered.
It's
the
the
sticker
allows
neighbors
to
turn
in
Neighbors
and
the
License
Plate
Reader
doesn't,
and
we
didn't
really
have
a
discussion
with
Council
about
that
either
they
just
kind
of
went
in
their
own
I
mean
we
were
late
in
the
night.
You
know
we're
kind
of
the
last
item,
so
that
was
challenging
too
foreign.
D
Thought
is
yeah,
I
agree
with
kind
of
what
Greg
had
mentioned,
I
think
what
staff
had
mentioned,
where
there's
definitely
certain
issues
I
think
the
big
thing
for
me
is
that
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
these
are
also
sort
of
outstanding,
depending
on
what
Laszlo
says,
for
example,
would
they
do
stickers
as
well?
That
would
not
be
they're.
D
C
To
get
a
permit
from
the
company
IPC
or
IPS,
sorry
I'm,
not
remembering,
is
the
the
highest
cost
was
twenty
dollars
per,
and
that
was
if
you
use
the
credit
card
to
pay.
That
was
four
bucks
if
they
had
to
mail
a
sticker.
That
was
like
six
bucks,
so
I
think
if
you
just
go
online
and
get
a
license
plate
and
you'd,
maybe
don't
pay
with
credit
card.
You
pay
with
debit,
it's
ten
dollars,
so
the
range
is
10
to
20
dollars,
but.
B
B
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
you
wanted
to
put
it
to
a
vote,
so
I
mean
if
we're
going
to
go
on
discussion,
I
mean
I.
Just
wanted,
you
know,
get
the
get
a
a
consensus.
So
then,
let's,
let's
start
with
one
point
and
then
we
all
chime
in
and
then
we
move
to
the
next
point,
because
what
what
what
it
seems
is
like
we
all
we
want
to
have
a
discussion,
but
then
we
through
we
through
three
points
all
together
and
then
that's
a
little
a
little
confusing.
B
B
People
are
going
to
be
moving
to
other
streets.
So
it's
not
going
to
make
a
lot
of
sense,
but
then
console
I
mean
some
of
the
council.
Members
were
saying
it's.
You
know
it's
a
valid
point
that
some
people
don't
have
problems
with
parking
and
they're
going
to
feel
that
they're
burying
the
burning
of
the
people
that
they
do.
So
why
don't?
We
do
a
pilot
study,
sort
of
like
a
zone
or
trial
per
Street
and
the
way
that
they
want
to
handle
this?
B
Because
if
you
go
with
the
you
know
third-party
contract
to
manage
this,
it's
not
going
to
be
visible
for
them
to
to
do
it.
You
know
per
Street
as
far
as
as
we
as
we
know,
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
asked
that
question
so
the
way
would
be
to
do
a
stickers
and
they
you
know
they
put
that
out
there.
So
do
we
put
that
into
a
vote
among
the
committee
and
say
I'll
do
do.
We
is
that
something
that
that
we
think
it
could
work?
We
go.
B
They
need
six
months
to
to
work
everything
out
to
put
it
on
the
election
ballot.
So
the
question
would
be.
How
do
we
feel
about
that
point?
Do
we
say,
as
a
committee
can
I
mean,
can
we
do
a
vote
and
say,
as
a
committee,
you
know
we
don't
agree
with
that,
because
you
know
people
are
just
going
to
go
to
the
different
streets
and
the
problem
is
not
going
to
be
solved.
What
we
think
is
a
valid
idea.
B
I
So
with
the
police
department
enforcing
it.
Currently
we
don't
have
the
current
staff
to
do
so.
We
would
have
a
cost
as
well
whether
that
costs
can
easily
surpass
last
I
can
see
that
happening.
You're
talking
about
a
staff
member
being
here,
another
you're
talking
total
compensation
for
an
employee,
adding
another
employee,
hiring
their
employee
training
that
employee
we
could
on
a
pilot
program
you're
going
to
easily
surpass
what
labs
can
definitely
provide
for
you
right
away.
I
It
would
take
us
a
while
to
recruit
someone
to
get
that
person
up
and
running
into
the
classes,
so
I
don't
recommend
that
we
implement
it,
especially
if
we're
talking
soon
because
we
would
have.
We
would
have
some
initial
startup
time
for
that.
So
I
don't
know
I,
I,
I'm,
saying
right
now,
it's
probably
not
going
to
be
feasible
to
be
cheaper
than
less.
If
we
wanted
to
try
this
as
a
pilot
Pilot's
great,
because
you
put
the
pilot
in
place,
everyone
says:
no,
we
don't
want
it.
You
kill
the
program.
I
We
hire
somebody
we're
gonna
have
to
reallocate
that
Personnel
somewhere.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to.
You
know
let
Council
know
that
if
we
do
want
us
to
do
it,
we
don't
have
the
current
Staffing
to
do
so.
We
would
have
to
hire
somebody
and
then
that
person
would
then
be
an
employee
if
it
didn't
work
out
so
I'm
recommending
that
we
stay
with
Laz
in
a
format
with
a
third
party.
If
not
last
Maybe.
H
C
Okay,
I,
don't
think
the
council
was
set
that
staff
that
we
needed
to
have
our
police
forces
enforce
this.
What
we
didn't
know
what
we
haven't
investigated
yet
is
whether
Laz
could
do
part-time
or
could
do
6
to
10
pm
as
a
part-time.
We
need
to
contact
them
and
find
out
if
that's
possible.
Okay,
I
think
we're
talking
about
City
staff.
If,
if
there
is
no
vendor
that
can
do
it
for
us
on
a
part
time
on
a
smaller
basis
than
we
originally
asked
about
foreign.
B
Okay,
So,
based
on
on
on
our
discussion,
should
we
put
a
I
mean?
Should
we
just
leave
it
like
that
and
have
Thomas
take
notes
on
this
discussion
point
or
she
will
put
into
a
vote
and
said
you
know,
there's
too
many
cons
for
this
trial?
You
know
pilot
thing,
so
we
just
kind
of
vote
on
it
and
say
we
don't
we
don't
recommend
it
I.
C
Just
want
to
add
something
else
to
what
you
said.
We
don't
know
that
everybody's
going
to
move
to
a
different
street.
That's
hypothesis,
it's
not
fact
so!
I
think
that's
why
Council
was
suggesting
it.
Let's
see
what
happens,
maybe
it's
not
convenient
to
go
park.
Three
blocks
away
with
your
two
extra
cars
and
switch
them
out
all
the
time.
It's
it's
not
convenient
to
Tandem
Park
in
your
driveway.
Even
you
know
so,
I
don't
think
you
can
say
everyone
will
do
that.
I!
Don't
think!
B
B
D
I
agree,
I
think
I'd
be
opening
something
like
I
know.
You
know,
I
think
we've
discussed
this
idea
and
there
is
the
option
to
set
up
your
own
program.
But
since
many
of
the
council,
members
did
bring
up
the
option
of
of
doing
trials,
I
think
if
the
last
can
you
know
accommodate
that
and
it
sort
of
is
at
a
cost.
B
B
B
In
certain
cases,
evaluation
of
sites
was
mentioned,
so
this
one
could
be
bundle
with
the
multi,
multi
regenerations
or
because
essentially
they're
asking
for
an
exceptions
where
a
household
is
going
to
need
more
than
two
parking
permits
you
know.
So
that
would
be
the
case
where
you
have.
You
know:
multi-generation
situations.
B
D
Know
if
it's
a
certain
codified
rule,
like
you
know,
two
vehicles
per
as
we
previously
discussed
in
any
additional
Vehicles
the
higher
cost,
then
you
know
I
could
see
sort
of
all
of
these
being
addressed
by
that
and
sort
of
no
additional
exceptions
other
than
you
know.
Unless
of
course,
there's
some
yeah
unless
we
want
to
you
know,
have
a
codified,
say:
multi-generational
family.
D
If
there's
proof
of
that,
then
it's
a
different
right,
I
think
that's
open
a
discussion
I,
you
know
I,
think
it'd
be
the
simplest
to
sort
of
say
you
have
two
permits
per
address
and
then
additional
inserted
cost.
But
I
do
think
that
some
of
these
things
we
should
probably
discuss
them
more
yeah
like
work
vehicle
I'm,
not
I,
feel
like
that
might
be
one
where
it
might
just
be
at
a
cost,
but
something
like
a
family
situation.
We
might
want
to
dig
in
a
little
bit
I.
H
Yeah
and
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
we
kind
of
kind
of
we
can
kind
of
incorporate
a
little
bit.
What
we
talked
about
before,
but
I
think
that
is
a
good
point
for
the
households,
for
example,
where
you
might
have
seven
people
renting
out
rooms
in
one
house,
for
example,
and
so
there
might
be
seven
different
people
that
are
subletting
a
house
or
something
like
that,
and
so
do.
H
We,
then,
who
which
person
in
that
household
gets
the
you
know
the
increase
in
cost
or
can
if
they
can
prove
that
it's
a
sublet
household
which
actually
shouldn't
be
too
hard.
If
they
have
lease
agreements,
then
maybe
then
they
just
each
get
the
original
price
for
each
vehicle.
You
know
like
the
20
40,
whatever
we
said
for
the.
C
H
H
Like
subleased
houses
so,
like
maybe
they're,
renting
seven
rooms
in
a
house
or
something
like
that
and
there's
seven
different
parties
involved
in
that
house,
do
we
do
we
charge
extra
or
how
do
we
charge
the
extra
than
the
two
and
or
there's
only
certain
numbers?
That
was
something
I
think
the
council
mentioned.
There's!
No.
If
you
have
seven
people
in
the
house,
but
they're
technically
only
supposed
to
have
two
spots
on
the
street,
how
do
you
charge
that
or
do
you
charge
more
but
then,
if
they're,
all
separate
households?
How
do
you
do
that?
G
I
So
I
I
heard
what
council
said
and
you
know
let's
say
you
have
seven
people
in
the
house,
whether
it's
or
let's
say
five
and
whether
it's
mother
and
father,
and
then
you
know
parents
and
then
three
kids,
but
they
all
drive.
If
you
can
prove
that
you
live
at
that
address,
that's
your
car
I
believe
you
should
get
a
permit.
I
mean
that
addresses
hey
all
my
kids
move
back
then
because
they
just
can't
afford
to
rent
in
San
Francisco.
So
they
all
live
in
here.
I
If
you
can
prove
that's
your
vehicle,
you
live
there.
Then
you
should
get
a
permit
it.
This
would
definitely
curb
someone
having
two
drivers
and
I
just
decided
to
buy,
because
we
can
have
five
cars
and
now
you're
spilling
out
in
the
street.
So
you're
really
cleaning
up
excess
cars
that
aren't
being
used,
I
mean
if
you're,
if
it's
a
one-to-one
ratio,
one
dollar
one
car
they're
using
it
and
it's
going
to
get
moved
up.
I
I
mean
if
they
live
there,
I
mean
if
two
families
decide
to
live
together,
and
you
know,
there's
bunk
beds
in
each
room,
I
mean
they're,
making
it
work.
That's
that's
what
we
have
to
do
for
housing
crisis,
so
you
give
them
the
permit
as
long
as
they
have
a
driver
for
each
car.
I,
don't
think
one
driver
should
have
three
cars,
but
one
driver
can
have
one
car
and
that
would
be
fair.
If
that
was
my
family.
I
would
be
fair.
C
I
Correct
I
mean
it
would
just
I
mean
you
would
have
to
I
mean
I,
guess
I
mean
there's
not
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
those
situations
that
it's
gonna
be
I
think
that
the
masses
are
going
to
be
to
address.
You
know:
I
have
three
kids
that
live
at
home
and
we
only
have
a
cabin.
Just
give
me
two
permits.
C
E
I
yeah
I
think
we
need
to
maybe
consider
doing
a
subcommittee
at
this
point
and
have
a
couple
of
people
work
on
this
noodle
out
some
of
these
things.
If
that
aging
grandparent
bought
a
car,
they
would
need
a
permit
the
one
with
the
driver's
license
it
doesn't
drive
if
they
decided
they
wanted
to
drive
again.
They'd
need
a
permit,
so
I
think
you
know
cars
and
permits
need
to
go
together.
E
It
sounds
like
I
mean
I'm,
just
thinking
out
loud,
there's
a
lot
to
take
in
here
and
it's
sad
to
waste
a
month
until
we
come
back
and
try
to
figure
it
out
again.
So
if
we
had
like
a
subcommittee
of
two
people,
possibly
that
could
maybe
brainstorm
and
and
I
recommend
you
guys
down
there
if
you're
willing,
simply
because
it's
it's
a
lot
to
chew
on
that,
codification
in
itself
is,
is
going
to
be
a
tough
one
to
Noodle
out.
B
B
So
yeah
I
mean
those
that's
that's
a
good
suggestion
and
and
I'm
sure
we're
gonna.
You
know
come
around
that
staying
with
the
question
so
the
way
I
see
this.
You
know,
because,
essentially
the
question
is
you're
going
to
have
a
situation
where
you're
going
to
have
a
household
that
is
going
to
have
more
than
two
cars
right,
oh
and
then
this
could
also
extrapolate
to
a
building
that
doesn't
have
a
specific
parking
spaces
for
those
tenants
and
also
perhaps
a
household
that
has
a
trade
vehicle.
B
You
know
one
one
central
question
in
my
opinion
is-
and
this
was
brought
up
in
the
in
the
meeting-
do
we
have
an
idea
of
what
is
the
capacity
physical
capacity
of
of
vehicles?
You
know
the
basement
can
accommodate
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
have
that
you
know
it
will
be
a
very
elaborate
exercise
to
to
do
to
come
up
with
that.
B
So
it's
it's
a
tough
one.
I
I
definitely
feel
that
you
know
you
know
the
two
parking
Dio
came
because
if
you
think
about
a
house,
you
could
essentially
Park
two
cars
in
front
of
the
house
and
you
could
block
your
own,
your
own,
your
own
driveway.
You
know
and
then
another
one
just
a
little
bit
in
front
of
your
house.
B
So
that's
almost
that
someone's
a
giving.
But
that's
you
know.
We
know
that
people
are
going
to
have
more
more
more
cars
and
I
think
we
did.
We
did
mention
that
we
could
definitely
accommodate
more
car,
but
we'll
never
say
like
how
many
more
cars,
but
we
also
say
the
we
I
think
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
third
car.
You
know
it
should
be
more
challenging
to
get
a
permit.
B
You
know
you
have
to
make
the
case
just
not
like
in
terms
of
make
it
more
expensive,
but
also
have
some
sort
of
building
criteria
like
where
do
you
feel?
Where
do
you
fall
in
that
category?
In
terms
of,
are
you
a
tenant
in
a
building
that
doesn't
have
parking
space
or
or
are
you
a
household
that
has
a
trade
vehicle
or
you
are
in
a
house
that
has
a
multi-generation
home?
So
maybe
in
the
application
you
know,
which
you
have
some
of
those
criteria.
H
E
H
Person
gets
one
car
one
permit
and
that's
it
in
the
house
as
long
as
you
have
your
address
is
at
the
house
and
you
have
one
car,
that's
what
you
get
now.
If
you
want
a
second
car
with
the
same
name
on
that
car,
then
that's
when
we
need
to
start
penalizing
you,
you
know
not
penalizing
I,
guess
that's
not
cutting.
H
D
D
H
What
Laz
says
about
and
I
think
that
was
the
big
one-
is
the
hours
that,
whether
we
stick
to
the
10
to
6
a.m?
I
think
that
we
chose
before
or
that
we
presented
before-
or
maybe
we
just
say:
okay,
maybe
I
think
the
two
options
that
they
mentioned
were
6
p.m,
to
10,
P.M
or
24
hours
like
you
have
a
parking
permit
and
if
you're
parked
for
more
than
24
hours,
you
need
to
have
a
pyramid.
B
Okay,
so
in
terms
of
the
codified
section,
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
create
a
subcommittee
and
that's
Darius
and
Gregory,
provided
you
know
that
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
well
Colleen
had
expressed
that
she
would
like
everybody
to
work
on
topic.
So
we
could
just
probably
just
just
just
have
that
caveat
in
mind
if
she
pushes
back
and
say
no
I
want
everybody
to
work
on
this,
but
for
right
now,
I
100
agree
that
we
should
have
subcommittees
for
some
of
this
topics.
B
E
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
having
a
subcommittee
doesn't
preclude
the
rest
of
the
committee
from
being
part
of
what
they
bring
back.
Is
their
information,
it's
for
all
of
us
to
share
and
explore
further
or
agree
with
or
bring
up
questions,
and
so
it's
not
like
they're
going
to
be
making
decisions,
they're
they're
just
going
to
brainstorm
and
then
bring
things
back.
No.
B
B
F
Yeah,
so
these
are
I
mean
just
hearing
these
so
like
the
top
of
my
list
is,
is
trial,
trial
streets
is
that
feasible
and
how
much
would
adjustment
in
the
hours
cost
that's
the
top
of
my
list.
We
were
aware
of
these
issues
before
wanted
to
touch
base,
but
going
forward
I'm
going
to
reset
the
last
and
ask
both
those
questions.
B
D
I
guess
the
only
other
one
I
see
here
is
a
signage
in
the
bottom.
There
that
we
haven't
really
touched
on
yet
I
think
that
may
be
I
think
was
recommendation
is
sort
of
you
know,
increase
awareness,
potentially
right
and
and
of
the
current
limits,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
how
much
yeah
we'd
want
to
recommend
something
like
that,
or
is
that
something
you
know
where
we
would
think
that
might
have
a
need
for
that.
E
H
Yeah
and
I
would
agree
too
I
think
not
that
I
mean.
Obviously
we
have
to
see
what
comes
back
with
on
that.
But
I
think
that
I
heard
that
suggestion
about
24
hours
it
did
kind
of
what?
What
is
it
that
we're
trying
to
solve
right,
and
so
if
what
we're
trying
to
solve
is,
for
example,
Airport
parking
and
I
think
just
recently,
I
saw
on
some
social
media.
E
H
Admitted
that
they
were
doing
it
but
I,
and
so
if
what
we're
trying
to
solve
is
the
is
the
is
a
lot
of
that
as
part
of
it
and
there's
other
other
issues
too.
But
that
would
definitely
solve
that
prior
to
the
problem
of,
if
you
can
only
Park
in
Brisbane
and
also
solve
some
of
the
emergency
situations
potentially
as
well
right.
I
So
parking
for
24
hour
I
mean
I
I
kind
of
caught
part
of
your
discussion.
But
if
someone
calls
in
and
says
a
vehicle
has
been
there
for
24
hours,
we
can't
take
that
per
se,
because
someone
could
embellish
that
they
could
be
there
for
20
hours
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
they
get
the
ticket.
And
then
we
don't
have
any
way
to
refute
that
that
someone
can
say:
hey,
I,
just
parked
and
now
I
got
a
ticket,
because
someone
embellished
and
said
I've
been
there
for
a
week.
I
So
when
you
say
25
when
you
call
let's
say,
let's
take,
for
example,
a
72-hour
rule,
someone
calls
and
says
hey
this
car's
been
here
for
three
weeks.
We
want
it
tagged
that
time
doesn't
start
until
we
put
that
tag
on
the
vehicle,
because
we
can't,
because
there
are
undesirables
that
will
embellish
that
in
the
past
we've
had
someone
do
that
and
literally
the
engine
was
still
warm.
So
obviously
we
saw
proof
of
that
and,
like
you
know,
like
you
said,
what
is
your
intent?
I
You
know
what
we
have
a
hard
time
is
when
individuals
or
residents
see
someone
get
out
of
a
car
with
their
luggage
hop
in
Uber.
We
don't
get
that
call.
You
know
we,
we
don't
get
that
call
it.
It
does
circulate
out
there,
but
we
don't
get
the
call
because
we
can
market
then,
because
our
warning
is
just
a
warning:
it's
not
punitive
yet
unless
it
stays
there
for
more
than
72
hours.
So,
but
the
time
only
starts
when
we
get
out
there
and
tag
it
it
doesn't.
E
I
Because
I
mean
we,
we
don't,
we
have
no
problem,
we
can
start
the
72-hour
process
because
remember
it's
just
a
warning
tag.
So
if
they
come
back
in
24
hours,
then
they
they're
mad
because
there's
a
sticker
on
it,
but
they
really
left
for
72
for
five
days
on
a
trip
to
the
Bahamas.
Well,
then,
the
car
won't
be
there
when
they
get
back.
Okay,.
I
I
We
well
I
mean
there
obviously
there's
things
that
we
look
into.
We
want
to
run
straight.
We
we
either
run
registration.
We
ask
the
neighbors
hey
this
person.
Remember
what
we're
doing
is
only
a
warning.
It's
not
punitive!
That
red
sticker
is
not
punitive,
so
we
haven't
done
anything
by
the
person.
It
only
becomes
punitive
when
we
tow
it
after
72
hours.
My.
C
I
I
So
that
would
be
a
question
for
labs
if
they
can
cue
a
plate
for
a
pending
until
it
gets
ran
again
after
it
becomes
an
active
violate
violator
right,
so
they
validate
it
still
there,
yes,
and
that
would
probably
address
the
issues
of
what
I
think
when
the
council
member
said
well
what?
If
someone
came
overnight
because
I
fell
and
they
needed
to
be
with
me
when
I'm
sick,
then
they
would
address
that
issue
as
well.
So
I
think
you
just
killed
two
birds
with
one
stone
there.
If
that
is
possible
for
last
question,.
B
Yeah
I
mean
those
are
very
good
points.
I
guess
a
couple
of
questions:
do
we
have
an
idea
how
many
signs
we
have
or
signs
you
know
that
says
this
enforcement
72
hours,
because
I
haven't
seen
one
I,
don't
I
and
I
think
this
was.
This
was
brought
up
in
the
on
the
council
meeting
that
I
think
by
arresting
also
by
some
of
the
consoles
that
that
could
be
a
good
idea.
B
I
B
C
Have
you
seen
the
California
vehicle
code?
It's
like
the
stick.
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
just
put
out
that
particular
sign.
There's
a
there's,
a
lot
in
the
code.
So
the
you
know
this
one
woman
that
talked
about
Alvarado
is
I.
Think
it's
on
the
side
of
the
street
where
the
Brisbane
Elementary
is
so
there
are
no
homes.
C
E
Might
want
to
look
around
and
see
where
it
would
be
the
most
strategic
places
like
where
you
enter
town,
and
you
know
a
couple
other
places.
You
know,
explain
that
it's
limited
parking
or
that
it
is
a
restricted
parking
area
in
some
way,
I
mean
sure
it
could
be
managed
down
to
just
a
couple
of
words
on
a
sign
or
a
few
words,
but
some
signs
might
be
necessary,
maybe
not
a
whole
bunch.
A
I
We
generally
do
not
sign
for
California
vehicle
code,
because
that
is
a
vehicle
code
that
is
the
72-hour
parking
rule
is
enforced
upon
every
city
and
every
in
in
all
of
California.
So
we
don't
generally
put
signs
that
reiterate
the
California
vehicle
code
that
that's
those
are
laws
that
they
should
know
already.
I
I
If
you
want
to
sign
certain
streets,
saying
you're
entering
a
permitted
street
that
way
they
know,
because
a
lot
of
times
when
we
do
give
out
citations
based
on
whether
it's
a
you
know,
Red
Zone
violation
or
whatever
the
parking
violation
may
be,
and
we
do
put
signage.
There's
there's
always
going
to
be
Rebel
that
the
sign
was
not
big
enough.
So
that's
why
we
don't
slide
in
the
California
vehicle
code
of
violations
that
apply
in
certain
areas.
B
Yeah
I
think
you
know
I
agree
with
with
Linda
I
wish.
You
have
some
sort
of
signage,
especially
for
those
Street
Thomas
to
Larry,
King,
Alvarado
and
Humboldt.
You
know
that
they're
experiencing
the
most
prominent
with
with
parking
space
they'd
like
90
fulfill
and
that
was
brought
up
on
the
on
the
council
meeting
too,
as.
E
Councilwoman
Karen
said
at
that
meeting
that
Tulare
Street's
a
whole
lot
better
now,
because
one
person
had
many
many
cars,
so
you
know
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
really
need
to
put
them
on
all
those
streets.
I
think
there
just
needs
to
be
some
general
visual
here
and
there
that
says
this.
This
residential
area
is
permit
parking.
Other
words
are
probably
more
appropriate,
but
again
too
many
signs
is
kind
of
like
visual
garbage
and
difficult.
B
I
mean
I,
don't
I
didn't
know
about
this
72
hours.
To
be
honest,
and
you
know,
I
have
a
license
for
the
last
30
years,
so
you
know
to
assume
everybody
knows
this.
That
might
not
be
the
case
and
the
other
thing
is,
you
know
signs,
they
do
alert
people
and
they
sort
of
you
know
prevent
that.
That's
why
you
got
stop
signs
and
so
forth.
I
mean
that's.
That's
just
my
my
opinion.
D
Guess
for
the
signage,
maybe
it
would
be
an
idea
to
hold
until
we
figure
out
if
it's
maybe
24
or
72,
because
that
might
also
impact
because
I
I
do
yeah
agree
with
that
the
72
hour.
Maybe
we
don't
need
too
many
signs,
because
it
is
law
but
yeah.
Maybe
if
it's
24
hour
then
we'd
be
more
signage
would
be
appropriate.
H
I
agree
with
that
I
think
I.
Think
for
that
topic
we
kind
of
have
to
see
what
the
the
Laz
kind
of
says
in
terms
of
the
cost,
if
they
can't
even
do
a
separate
time
than
what
we
discussed
before
and
if
they
would
change
the
cost
structure
and
then
base
that
decide
if
we
want
to
go
for
that,
24-hour
parking
permit
program
versus
the
current
design
that
we
had,
which
was
the
10
pm
till
six
o'clock
in
the
morning,
type
of
designation,
yeah
or
six
to
six
pm
to
10
pm.
B
B
B
B
F
I've
I've,
quite
a
few
questions
for
last
now
and
I
would
just
just
a
piece
of
advice.
Maybe
just
maybe
think
about
the
hypothetical
so
like,
let's
say
last
comes
back
and
they
can
do
this.
Is
this
something
you
would
support?
Is
it
something
you
would
it
just
for
just
for
next
meeting
like
like
we're
saying
in
the
interest
of
keeping
and
moving
along
but
yeah
like
first
thing
on
my
list
last,
but
four
questions
I
have
so
get
on
that.
B
C
Yeah,
that's
the
the
consultant.
I
mean
we
didn't
go
into
a
lot
of
great
detail,
but
there's
a
consultant
that
administers
these
type
of
permits
for
other
cities
that
that's,
that
five
thousand
dollar
one-time
setup
fee
and
they
can
process
they
can
coordinate
the
enforcement
and
the
database.
So
yeah.
B
Right
so
it's
a
matter
of
you
know
you
go
and
pay
online
or
you
get
your
tickets
that
that
sort
of
execution,
mainly
driven
by
the
like
last,
if
we
go
with
them.
Okay,
so
like
I,
think
for
now
nothing
pops
up.
But
if
anybody
reads
it
and
then
wants
to
send
an
email
to
staff,
saying
you
know
what
I
have
questions
on
this
or
are
we
or
why
not?
And
then
we
could
work,
you
could
work
on
those
and
now
I'll
do
the
the
same.
F
Yeah
I
feel
like
I've,
had
the
same
one
for
like
five
months,
because
it's
just
one
more
month.
Something
else
happens
but
Crocker
Trail
we're
we're
gonna,
be
awarding
it
tomorrow
at
the
city
council
meeting
to
a
contractor.
That
came
in
with
a
little
bit
that
we
were
happy
with
so
yeah
once
that
gets
figured
out
with
city
council,
it's
just
a
matter
of
getting
them
out
there
so
yeah,
but
yeah.
We
have
our
contractor
E.E
Gilbert
I,
don't
I,
don't
imagine
anyone's
heard
of
them,
but
maybe.