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Public Art Advisory Committee 3-20-2023
A
A
Davis
here
which
Vice
Joe
salmon
here,
commissioner
Greenlee
is
absent
at
the
moment
and
Parker
Recreation
all
right,
so
roll
call
Item
a
consider
any
request
of
a
city
council
member
to
attend
the
meeting
remotely
under
emergency
circumstances
of
ab2449
I
know
that
the
screen
that
was
going
to
try
to
join
us
and
post
the
agenda,
but
she
has
yet
to
join
at
this
moment.
So.
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All
right
so
for
roll
call
for
that
is
Mayor
Davis,
Hi,
councilmember,
Cunningham,
hi,
Joe,
Davis,
Hi,
hi
chef
salmon,
aye,
Park
and
Recreation
commissioner
Sewell.
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E
C
Right
and
I
guess
my
question
is
from
this
review
and
what
we're
talking
about
now
we
will
get
something
that
for
the
next
meeting,
that's
written
up
from
us
to
that
the.
D
Well,
I,
really
I,
really
liked
that
Belmonts
was
like
short
and
to
the
point.
I
would
think
that
if
I
was
wanting
to
apply
like
to
try
to
read
everything
else,
there's
a
lot
of
the
specifics
right
in
like
the
recitals
and
you
can
get
into
a
lot
more
detail
there.
But
I
just
felt
like
if
I
put
myself
in
a
consultant's
shoes,
I
would
be
more
keen
on
applying
to
something
that
you
know
wasn't
20
pages
long,
so
I
thought
that
theirs
was
really
straight
into
the
point.
I,
don't
know
that
I
would.
D
Like
I
thought
that
it
was
helpful
that
salsa
Francisco
had
the
evaluation
criteria,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to
box
ourselves
in
by
determining
what
that
is
ahead
of
time.
We
a
lot
of
times
with
these
things
you
sit
down
and
you
just
can
tell
who
the
right
bit
is
so
I,
don't
know
by
having
like
a
points-based
system
that
necessarily
like.
Maybe
we
develop
that
afterwards,
if
it's
hard
for
us
to
kind
of
come
to
some
sort
of
consensus,
but.
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Rfp
has
to
be
clear,
simple
and
concise.
Yes,
so
that
people
aren't,
you
know,
I
mean
there
were
93
pages.
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Is
two
pages
they
had?
One
of
the
best
I
mean
clearly,
with
these
two
pages
they
were
able
to
the
final
product,
end
up
being
something
that
we
all
really
resonated
with.
So
I
think
you
can
do
the
more
concise
you
are
doesn't
mean
that
you're
impressed
I
agree.
We
don't
need
to
overload
them
with
information
to
get
something
successful.
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So
with
that
in
mind,
should
we
just
take
a
look
at
this
time
focus
in
on
Belmont?
For
now,
would
you
like
to
just
look
at
everybody
on
the
same
page
and
look
at
the
Belmont
one,
so
we're
going
to
look
at?
Do
we
want
to
just
write
a
carbon
coffee?
Alamitas
is
not
too
long.
It's
just
the
recite.
It's
just
like
the
contract
itself.
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Work
I
think
all
of
them
basically
are
going
to
probably
have
that
you
know
where
they're
located.
You
know
that
kind
of
thing.
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E
C
When
they
say
in
this
one
opportunities
for
funding
models
for
public
art,
what
do
you
think
they
mean
for
that?
I
mean
I,
know
that
we
have
a
funding.
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C
C
And
does
that
have
to
be
in
this?
Alternative
sources
have
to
be
added
when
we
do
something
like
this,
it.
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So
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
helpful
to
kind
of
Identify
some
of
those
for
us
to
help
structure
what
we're
looking
for
in
a
day.
So
there's
where
Community
involvement,
diversity
of
art,
creation
of
sense
of
place
and
artist,
participation,
yeah,
so
I
think
just
kind
of
having
some
high
level.
This
is
what
we
are
hoping
to
accomplish.
These
are
the
outcomes
would
be
helpful
to
identify
in
the
RFP
language
yeah.
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Well,
I
was
going
off
of
the
ones
from
Belmont
yeah.
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C
So
I,
don't
what
I'm
saying
is
that
I
don't
think
artist
participation
is
part
of
the
master
plan.
The
artist
participation
happens
once
we
get
the
master
plans
done
and
we
find
the
harness.
That's
something
that
comes
down
it's
a
little
different,
because
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
what
I
got
when
we
were
talking
to
South
city
is
that
their
master
plan
was
much
broader
in
what
encompassed
a
broader
responsibility.
Yeah.
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D
Have
like
nice
schools,
built-in
structure
within
South,
City
Belmont
doesn't
have
something.
That's
like
asthma
images
please,
but
I
don't
really
want
to
have
like.
D
That
throw
of
a
timeline
well,
the
only
thing
I
would
say
about
that,
because
I
think
I
asked
them.
I
I
mentioned
their
timeline
that
they
had
and
whether
they
were
on
Target
and
they
were
so
in
that
regard.
The
benefit
of
having
the
timeline
is
helps
you
keep
the
the
mo
the
momentum
going
and
helps
you
stay
focused
and
helps
to
move
through
the
thought
process.
I
mean
there
is
something
to
be
said
about
that,
but
then,
on
the
other
side,
so
this.
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So
Alameda
also
has
the
submittal
requirements,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
get
that
specific
either,
but
it
says
the
city
is
requesting
a
submitted
proposed
contain
the
following
information
in
the
ensuing
order
table
of
contents.
Okay,
do
you
want?
Well
it's
four,
but
it's
not
really
four
Alameda,
okay,
well,
I
will
say
Redwood
City
on
page
six
also
has
a
submittal
requirement.
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Electronic
submissions
in
this
format
not
to
exceed
30
pages
or
something
like
that
I
mean
with
these
types
of
requirements
that
include
samples
of
work
and
references,
and
you
know
absolutely,
and
they
I
think
that
I
like
to
me
I-
think
I,
like
Redwood
cities,
better
admission
requirements
yeah.
So
it's
cover
letter
letter
of
interest
and
then
it's
it's
on
the
next
page.
Well,
they
also
have
a
submittal,
a
previous
work.
Yeah.
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Statements
of
qualifications,
relevant
experience,
examples
of
work,
professional
background
list
of
clients
and
then
just
like
you
know
how
they
want
it,
but
I
think
I
think
that's
a
little
bit
more
softer
clearer
to
me
than
like
team
organization
and
description
and
project
understanding
and
approach
and
project
manager.
Key
staff
I
just
feel
like.
No,
it's
not.
This
is
what
I
want
to
know
like
what
have
you
done?
Okay,
oh
okay,
because
it's
here
yeah,
so
I.
A
Just
wanted,
we
had
a
bit
of
a
glitch
happen
in
the
zoom
World,
so.
C
A
Has
failed
here
now,
but
we
can
see
you
on
this
little
TV
I
apologize!
No,
it's
not
that
big
TV,
but
Zoom
has,
but
she
can
see
us
all
through.
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We're
working
on
items,
e
presentation
and
discussion
items
review
are
a
few
samples
and
begin
framing
key
components
of
a
public
art
master
plan,
okay,
part
of
the
agenda,
and
we
have
packets
from
South,
San,
Francisco,
Redwood,
City,
Alameda
and
Belmont
their
request
rfps
and
we're
kind
of
looking
at
different
elements
of
each
of
them
and
some
of
them
we
like
better
than
others,
so
we're
just
we're.
Looking
at
Alameda
right
now,
page
six
I,
don't
know
page
seven
on
I
think
it
was
the
re.
D
Was
it
the
requirements,
submittal
requirements?
If
somebody
was
gonna,
you
know
what
they
needed
is
some
order
for
this
RFP
cover
letter
letter
of
interest
statement
of
qualifications.
What
relevant
experience?
That's
on
page,
seven,
professional
background
list
of
client
references,
you
know
and
presentation
material
that
kind
of
thing,
so
we
were
looking
at
comparing
that
to
I
think
it
was
Belmont
still
month.
This
one
was
a
little
bit
more
clear
on
exactly
what
we
wanted
and
that
part
of
the
RFP
okay.
So
thanks
yeah.
G
Gosh
I
must
not
have
printed
out
the
right
thing.
That's
okay,.
G
C
Imagine
page
seven
if
you
can
find
it
and
pull
it
up,
I
think
what
I
just
sort
of
garnered
from
the
voices
in
the
room
was.
We
will
kind
of
like
this
because
it's
to
the
point,
it's
simple,
but
it
encompasses
everything
I
think
those
of
us
who
are
talking
could
think
we
would
want
to
put
in
there.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
can
find
that
yeah.
D
C
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B
D
Like
Belmont's
consultant
selection,
we
go
back
to
like
because
that's
the
main
document
that
it's
really
it's
really
to
the
point.
It's
you
know,
pursuant
to
government
code,
State
of
California
equal
opportunity
right
and
then
it's
based
on
qualifications,
selection
committee,
I,
would
say
public
art.
You
know
a
public
art
committee
established
by
the
city
will
review
the
consults,
will
review
the
proposals
received
by
the
deadline
below
develop
a
short
list
of
qualified
firms,
depending
on
the
relative
quality
of
the
proposals.
D
The
city
May,
invite
shortlisted
firms
to
interview
with
City
staff
and
the
the
public
art
committee,
the
city
reserves
the
right
to
reject
any
and
all
proposals.
The
confirmation
of
this
engagement
will
be
subject
to
fiscal
year.
23
budget
adjustment
or
approval
of
the
fiscal
year
24
budget
like
just
edit
that
yeah
but
I,
think
this
is
like
on
a
lot
of
our
I,
was
looking
at
the
city's
like
applications
for
job
openings,
job
opening
applications
and
it's
very,
very
similar
language.
D
C
The
other
thing
you
missed
please
so,
if
I
may,
in
the
RFP
keeping
that
part
short,
but
then
once
somebody
has
chosen
then
get
into
the
weeds
and
the
mud,
and
you
know
lots
and
lots
of
detail
rather
than
Alameda,
had
it
very
flowery
long
language
and
I
think
well,
you
know,
let's
find
the
person
and
then
get
into
the
mud,
I.
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F
D
Seven
on
Redwood
City
in
front
of
the
submittal
requirements
season:
seven
right
yeah
we
liked
yes
and
then
Alameda.
F
C
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D
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E
C
We're
adding
we
need
to
add
that
the
Community
involvement.
A
G
Just
just
I'm
sorry,
what
was
the
last
I
got
sense
of
place
and
then
what
was
last
artist
participation?
Okay!
Does
that
mean
local
artists?
What
does
that
mean
artists
that
came
from
South.
D
San
Francisco's
kind
of
goals
and
purpose.
G
G
B
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D
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E
D
You
know,
strategies
for
ongoing
Community
engagement
and
Outreach
diverse
to
a
diverse
group
of
stakeholders-
yeah,
it's
very.
It
has
much
more
to
it
than
just
saying
we
care
about
Community
involvement.
F
C
G
Sadly,
sadly,
what
what
has
kind
of
shot
the
artistic
some
artistic
public
art
in
the
foot
has
been
ownership
issues,
yes,
and
that
that
has
put
the
key
bash
on
a
lot
of
public
art
projects
that
were
more
free-flowing
before
and
then
ownership.
You
know,
started
to
be
a
problem
and
then
people
would
just
cut
it
off
so
yeah.
We
need
that
right
up,
front
ownership.
B
C
G
There
are
copyright
laws
that
we
should
really
look
into
as
in
if,
if
the
city
buys
buys
the
rights
from
the
artists
or
the
artist
retains
the
copyrights,
because
an
artist
automatically
has
copyrights
to
any
visual
piece
that
they
create,
and
that
needs
to
be
that
needs
to
be
figured
out.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
own
it
or
if
we
want
to
you
know
it's
like
it's
like
having
an
artist
own
the
copyright,
then
their
limits
on
what
you
like.
G
G
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Want
to
put
that
in
here,
just
like
we
want
to
have,
we
want
our
master
plan
to
outline
how
we
will
go
about
ownership.
D
C
Of
the
things
we
discussed
a
long
time
ago
was
the
possibility
of
the
temporary
art
situation
being
something
like
someone
just
did
something.
A
huge
project
and
they've
got
nowhere
to
keep
it
for
the
next
year
that
those
kind
of
online
right
could
come
online,
which
helps
them
helps
us.
D
C
G
Least,
I
still
think
in
a
situation
like
that
we
shouldn't
think
of
it
as
on
loan
and
free
to
us.
You
know
there
should
be
some
compensation
for
them,
making
that
art
right.
D
C
E
C
D
Right,
one
of
the
things
I
was
noticing
in
South,
San,
Francisco
and
I'm,
not
sure
that's
in
the
Belmont
or
the
Redwood
City
is
on
page
six.
They
talk
about
their
public
participation
plan.
I.
Think
that's
really
important,
like
I.
Think
that
definitely
needs
to
be
in
writing
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
in
there
that
we
have
that's
the
second
to
the
last
yeah
and
they've
broken
into
two.
D
D
They
also
on
page
seven
number
five.
They
list
and
map
potential
locations
for
future
art.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
also
include
that
I,
don't
know
that
this
was
part
of
theirs.
A
F
A
D
D
Okay,
good,
you
may
want
to
also
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
you
want
to
do
this
now
or
not,
but
in
in
the
background
we
may
want
to
say
like
the
Catalyst,
for
this
is
that
we're
planning
for
the
bay
lands
right
and
we're
also
looking
at
planning
a
park
out
at
Sierra
Point,
and
those
are
two
rather
big
projects
in
which
public
art
will
have
a
place
and
so
to
have
this
master
plan.
D
Right,
but
that
public
art
can
be
really
ingrained
in
the
planning
of
those
spaces
that
it's
part
of
the
thought
process
from
the
beginning,
and
not
just
oh
we're
going
to
throw
a
statue
here,
because
we're
required
to
have
some
public
art
somewhere,
because
I
think
those
kinds
of
opportunities
are
really
very
rare.
Compared
to
other
cities.
D
Okay,
so
those
are
really
great
points
and
I
just
want
to
go
back
on
South
City,
page
10.
It
has
a
criteria.
We
did
not
want
to
have
that
point
space
system
right.
That
is
something
that
we
don't
really
want
to
include
that
kind
of
thing:
okay,
no
yeah,
okay,
so
yeah
any
other
input.
Committee
members
on
these
four
five
cities.
E
C
C
D
D
If
anybody,
if
you
want
hard
copies
to
maybe
have
time
to
really
look
through
these
and
digest,
and
maybe
massage
it
look
at
some
of
these
other,
you
know:
look
at
the
cities
a
little
bit
more
in
depth.
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
right
and
add
things
or
maybe
we
look
at
that
document,
take
things
out
so
just
I
think
we'll
start.
C
Work
I
would
also
like
it
so
that
I
could
have
what
we're
going.
What
what's
going
to
be
happening?
What
that
RFP
is
going
to
look
like
so
and
then
read
that
and
review
the
others
and
yeah
in
comparison
in
comparison.
I
would
prefer
doing
it
that
way,
because
then
there's
a
something
that
I
have
a
basis
to.
D
D
Item
f
is
discussed
approach
for
identified
project.
D
These
structures
I
wanted
that,
because
my
concern
is
how
do
we
come
up
with
the
fee
and
I
kind
of
feel
like
the
some
of
the
projects,
we've
done,
whether
it's
the
skate
park
or
finding
a
consultant
where
the
community
park
we
just
kind
of
threw
out
a
number
and
I,
don't
know
how
we
come
up
with
that
number
for
a
consultant
and
so
for
consultant
for
artists,
no
I'm
talking
about
to
hire
a
consultant
for
the
master
program
and
then
hopefully
they
will
help
us
going
forward.
D
A
D
Or
what
guidelines
are
we
going
to
use?
Where
do
we
come
up
with
the
number?
That's
what
I
think
this
is
trying
to
figure
out
to
do
something
like
this?
What
we're
embarking
on
is
a
little
bit
easier
because
there's
already
there's
already
it
a
lot
of
other
cities
who
have
done
it
well.
I
know
what.
D
They
there
are
other
cities
that
it
can
inform
how
much
like
we.
We
asked
that
question
when
we
did
all
those
interviews,
so
I
think
that
that
you
know
we
can
go
off
that
basis
and
then
I
think
like
after
that,
you
know
we
the
approach
that
we
had
where
we
said.
We
want
to
hire
basically
like
a
curator
right
to
do
the
space
behind
the
library
and
the
overall
budget,
maybe
was
200,
000
and
then
or
250,
but
then
the
curator
gets
10
of
that.
D
D
That,
once
we
have
a
master
plan
right
then
this
that
process
of
you
know
soliciting
from
artists,
maybe
will
be
a
lot
easier,
but
well.
Itemf
is
specifically
just
for
the
RFP.
That's
all
it
was.
It
has
nothing
to
do.
That's
all
I'm
talking
about.
So
the
only
number
that
I
recall
that
we
have
was
Belmont,
which
was
about
two
years
ago.
It
was
25
000.
and
South
San
Francisco's
80
000
that
they
budgeted
twenty
a
hundred,
so
they
had
a
twenty
thousand
dollar
kind
of
slush
slush
fund.
D
Cultural
arts
department-
and
it
was
their
budget-
is
either
50
or
72
000
for
that
department.
What
they
paid
for
the
consultant,
I
believe,
was
80
and
they
budgeted
a
hundred.
They
had
20
000
extra.
If
they
didn't
calculate
correct
now,
you
might
want
to
check
that
one
Celsius.
C
B
D
C
D
City
says
sorry:
you
need
to
have
that
in
the
RFP
budget,
Consultants
shall
provide
a
proposed
budget
itemized
by
tax,
as
well
as
the
total
project
cost
per
post.
Total
project
cost
stated
as
a
firm
fixed
fee
not
to
exceed
eighty
thousand
dollars.
Labor
and
direct
costs
should
be
identified
by
task
hourly
rates
for
project
staff
shall
also
be
provided.
Cost
proposal
will
be
submitted
separate
from
the
rest
of
the
RFP
response.
So
that's
the
is
there
anyone
else.
D
Is
there
any
other
ones
that
have
specifically
noted
I
thought
that
Redwood
budget
said
not
to
exceed
sixty
thousand
okay
I,
see
it
right
here,
the
city,
the
city,
looks
to
the
consultant
team
to
present
a
high
quality
scope
of
work
and
cost-effective
fee
for
with
a
maximum
budget
of
sixty
thousand
dollars.
Key
components
of
the
public
art
master
plan
include
levels
of
this.
This
is
no.
D
C
D
E
D
Would
think
that
would
be
a
question,
maybe
Noreen,
if
you
could
call
Belmont
and
ask
them,
did
they
publish
and
publish
it
at
all,
or
do
they
just
wait
and
see
what
the
and
then
it
was
the
lowest
bidder
got
it?
Okay?
Well,
that's
the
lowest
one.
So
that's
what
I'm
curious
we're
not
supposed
to
judge
it
has
to
be
qualifications,
so
you're
not
going
to
see
those
figures
that.
D
D
I
think
it's
a
double-edged
sword
right.
You
throw
you
put
too
high
of
a
number
out
there
and
then
you
get
swindled
or
you
don't
put
a
number
out
there
at
all
and
you
don't
get
any
applications
or
you
get
people
who
really
reach
for
the
stars
because
they
have
no
there's
been
no
established
limit.
So
maybe,
as
a
committee
we
established
like,
we
don't
want
this
to
exceed
X
and
then
and
let
Noreen
investigate
Belmont
and
then
give
her
the
authority
I.
Think
that's
a
good
idea
to.
C
D
D
Well,
I'm
not
going
to
waste,
my
account
I
mean
if
you
don't
know,
and
it's
all
hidden
somebody
you
know
it's
going
to
take
time.
Then
that
was
one
of
the
things
Beth
also
brought
up.
Is
it
takes
time
for
them
to
apply?
They
should
know
if
it's
worth
their
wild.
They
take
all
that
time
to
apply
for
something.
Then
they
find
out.
It
pays
25,
Grand
and
they're.
A
60
Grand
consultant
they've
wasted
their
time
and
they
don't
it's
unknown
yeah.
D
So
what
price
do
we
think
I
will
say
for
if
I
may,
just
real
quick,
when
we
did
the
crocker
Trail
RFP,
we
did
a
not
to
exceed
amount
of
a
hundred
thousand,
and
we
had
several
submissions
that
were
received
as
part
of
that
process.
Some
or
99
999
and
some
were
80.
Some
were
72,
so
I
mean
that
there
was
a
range,
they
didn't
all
just
say:
99
000,
so
okay,
dog
park
resurfacing
and
construction
of
the
library.
D
F
D
D
And
yeah
I
agree
it's
expensive,
so
well.
I
do
think
there
seemed
like
it
was
a
little
bit
more
because
they
have
a
cultural
arts
department.
It
did
seem
like
it
was
a
little
bit
more
comprehensive,
a
little
bit
more
complicated
than
ours,
I
will
say
and
I
don't
know
that
we
have
to
come
up
with
it
today,
because
we're
going
to
look
at
the
RFP
document
and
you're
going
to
have
to
revisit
I.
D
Just
we
don't
want
to
have
to
come
up
with
the
number
today
and
maybe
just
something
to
you
know
chew
on
and
figure
out.
Maybe
do
some
more
research
get
some
numbers
if
you
can
obviously
from
the
most
recent
ones,
because
as
far
back
as
we
go,
you
know
if
it's
five
years
ago,
then
that's
irrelevant.
Don't
we
have
the
numbers,
I
mean
we
have
25
and
we
have
60s.
C
C
C
E
D
D
B
D
C
E
D
Right,
so
next
item
is
consider
ideas
for
small
internet
projects.
I
had
this
put
on
agenda,
you
know
I've
been
hearing
feedback
from
the
committee.
We
want
to
do
some
small,
like
projects
that
are
something
in
the
meantime.
So
I
had
some
ideas.
One
was
well.
We
could
do
something
like
do
an
art
gallery
like
South
City.
Did
it
doesn't
really
involve
the
whole?
We
could
have
like
an
art,
show
one
day,
kind
of
thing.
If
that
calls
artists
together,
it's
still
it's
something
that
we're
displaying
people's
art.
D
C
D
C
D
G
D
Sun
Well,
it
may
be
a
location
like
the
community,
like
the
Community
Center,
where
you
have
the
garden
show.
It
could
be
one
weekend
where
you
have
an
art
show
and
when
we
have
the
consultant
already
in
place,
they
could
be
there
at
the
same
time
getting
feedback.
It.
C
D
Can
do
that
like
the
garden
show?
That
could
be
a
good
idea,
but
it
could
be
something
like
that.
So
that
was
one
idea.
I
just
had
another
one
was
I
recall,
going
to
I
made
a
wrong
term
in
long-term
Sebastopol
one
day
and
I
turned
down
this
one
street
and
literally
every
block
had
their
mailbox
done.
In
some
art
house,
every
house
on
the
Block
had
like
some
kind
of
art
and
I
was
like
what
is
this
I
was
blown
away.
D
D
There
are
all
kinds
of
ideas
we
could
hold
a
competition
if
people
wanted
to
put
it
on.
It's
mailboxes
that.
D
Like
this
one
is
a
post:
is
a
mail
truck
okay,
it's
very
pitch
and
guess
what
so
are
fire
hydrants?
So
it
goes
along
with
that.
It's
not
anything
that
really
costs
us
money,
but
we're
promoting.
So
it
was
a
an
idea
because
we're
trying
to
get
our
master
plan,
but
we
also
want
something
to
do
right.
Somebody
talked
about
that,
but
you
can
engage
with
people
and
that's
a
low
cost
yeah.
That's
a
low-cost
project
that
has
Community
involvement.
That's
what
it's
like
the
fire
hydrants!
D
G
I
have
a
quick
question
just
about
where
this
Falls
as
a
project,
because
is
the
fire
hydrant
painting
part
of
the
park
and
rec
department
event:
yeah,
yes,
okay,
so
does
that
mean
that
this
committee
would
then
fund
like
a
separate
thing?
Or
would
this
go
to
the
park
and
rec
events
committee?
How
would
this
I'm
I'm
a
little
confused
as
I
love
the
ideas
I'm
just
wondering
who's
going
to
be
running
it.
D
I,
don't
know
that
this
needs
to
fund
anything
I
could
think
you
could
just
have
like
a
competition
or
a
project
or
I.
You
know
one
of
the
things
I
thought
about
was
the
derby
and
how
we
have
the
derbies,
and
now
the
derbies
have
been
like
created
into
all.
You
know
they
just
started
off
as
Derbies
and
they
become
like
great
creations,
and
so
maybe
this
is
something
that
the
art
committee
can
encourage.
People
somehow
or
you
can
have
a
prize.
D
D
Could
have
an
artist
run
the
workshop
and
show
materials
and
have
examples,
and
things
like
that,
so
there
may
be
some
fee
from
this
department.
I
would
imagine
that
if
we
had
this
depart
this
committee
back
when
we
did
the
fire
hydrants
that
would
have
fallen
under
this
committee,
because
we
talk
about
painting
utility
boxes
and
other
cities
have
had
those
as
projects-
okay
and
that's
Fallen
under
the
art
committee.
So
this
is
like
somebody's
mailbox,
whether
it's
the
you
know
the
the
one,
the
rural
route
one
or
the
one.
G
I
really
like
the
idea
I
just
I
do
want
to
I
do
are
events
committee
is,
is
pretty
full
and
it
would
be
great
if
this
committee
could
take
ownership
of
those
ideas
and
kind
of
you
know,
work
with
the
city
to
plan
them
and
just
fund
them
just
for
supplies.
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
lot
of
money,
I'm
not
seeing
that,
but
as
far
as
you
know,
throwing
it
I
I
see
this
stuff
kind
of
in
the
past
being
thrown
to
the
park
and
rec
events.
G
D
D
G
Would
and
I
would
say
that
that
if
you
want
to
do
a
really
good
shock
event,
because
I
used
to
be
like
big
into
these
chalk
events
in
different
cities,
you
need
you
need
good
supplies,
you
don't
need.
E
G
D
Know
because
I
know
but
yeah
I
think
in
the
same
vein,
though,
like
you,
things
might
come
up
at
Pub
park
and
rec
that
are
artists
that
are
art
related.
Just
like
that
event,
and
you
may
want
to
say,
hey
actually,
let's
punt
this
to
the
pub
we
as
the
Liaisons
are
going
to
take
this
because
in
my
mind,
I
hear
that
and
I'm
like.
Why
are
we?
Why
is
that?
Not
here
yeah
so.
G
I
think
having
I
think
having
it
because
I'm
on
both
committees,
I
think
having
it
on
this
Arts
committee,
focusing
it
more
on
Art
and
having
a
slightly
better
budget
than
what
the
rec
department
does
is
a
really
good
idea
and
I
would
love.
I
would
love
to
to
get
those
those
projects
over
to
this
committee,
because
I
think
the
art
supplies
that
will
be
involved
and
the
staff
time
and
who's
gonna
who's
gonna
make
it
happen.
G
C
Am
all
over
the
benches
I
actually
mentioned
that
too
I
had
a
meeting
earlier
with
clay
and
I
I
said
that
you
know
what
I
lost
public
art
meeting
I
talked
about
my
fantasy
and
my
fantasy
is
benches
and
when
you
think
about
and
Clay
actually
mentioned,
JFK
Drive
in
San
Francisco,
you
know
the
old
hot
dogs
they
they've
done.
Jfk
drive
through
that
area
that
they've
just
opened
is
full
of
abstract
and
interesting
different,
that
is
all
movable
sea
level
rise
whatever.
C
If
we
put
benches
out
at
zero
point,
we
can
move
them
if
we
put
them
on
Crocker
Trail
as
a
loner
place,
because
we
don't
have
a
budget
to
do
more
things
out
there.
We
can
move
them
the
thing
about,
and
I
love
the
idea
of
benches
and
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
look
at
that
Prof.
That
idea
the
way
that
they
looked
at
the
hearts
in
San
Francisco
man.
G
C
E
D
C
C
G
G
D
That's
my
point
right.
Well,
while
we're
talking
about
Deanna
Washington,
she
also
has
the
amazing
fence,
so
you
could
do
a
fence
too.
Besides
a
mailbox
I
mean
you
could,
if
you
want,
you
know,
there's
just
there's
different.
You
can
make.
Somebody
can
make
a
mural
on
their
fence.
Those
are
all
kinds
of
personal
right.
E
D
Think
that
this
is
speaks
to
something
where
they're
like
we're
talking
about
dimensions
of
art
right
and
to
me
we
have
like
for
those
who
are
around
when
sangamo
introduced
their
piece.
That's
a
200,
000
sculpture.
That's
there
forever
and
it's
huge
and
and
that's
one
dimension
of
public
art,
and
then
you
have
more
of
like
the
gorilla
style
which
is
graffiti
or
it's
the
hydrants
or
it's
mailboxes.
D
Something
that's
smaller
and
you
know
know
just
out
you
encounter
it
and
they
all
have
different
budgets
and
so
I
think
that
if
we're
layering
different
dimensions
of
art,
everything
from
something
that
a
Community
member
can
make,
that's
becomes
part
of
our.
You
know
art
scene
in
Brisbane
to
hiring
an
artist
to
do
something
for
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
have
that
dimension
of
art.
I
think
is
really
important.
I.
G
G
Yeah
and
before
I
was
ever
on
park
and
rec
committee
I
was
actually
hired
to
do
an
art.
What
I
consider
an
art
project
that
never
happened
because
covid
and
we
never
we,
it
was
funded.
Everything
was
ready
to
go,
and
then
it
just
didn't
happen,
but
I
think
it's
a
project
that
we
could
bring
to
this
committee.
Not
me
doing
it
because
I
have
I'm
stepping
off
of
it,
because
I
don't
think
it's
ethical,
but
the
sculptures
at
first
Park.
We
have
that
Helix
sculpture
and
we
have
the
turtles.
G
The
turtle
and
their
old
cement
beloved
decrepit
pieces
of
cement
and
I
was
actually
hired
to
paint
them
to
make
them
artistic
and
paint
them
which
they're,
great
they're,
fabulous,
shapes,
and
so
I
would
like
to
bring
that
which
is
part
of
our
Parks.
You
know,
but
it
needs
attention,
it
needs
the
the
structures
themselves
need
fixing
before
they
can
be
painted
and
I've
actually
done
a
lot
of
work
designing
like
what
could
go
on
them,
but
I'm
willing
to
not
do
that,
but
put
it
out
there
to
possibly
have
Deanna.
G
A
C
C
C
D
D
D
F
So
yeah
I
mean
it
requires
you
know
is
that
in
is
that
in
an
event
you
know,
or
is
that
art
you
know
that's
we
were
talking
about
an
event,
but
you
know
I'd
have
to
steal
all
Madison's
ideas
and
successes
for
that,
but
you
know
they're.
The
one
conversation
at
our
retreat
was
to
do
a
children's
event
at
Film
Fest
for
kids.
You
know
to
start
with.
Maybe
that's
coincide
with.
C
G
I,
when
I
was
what
I
was
thinking
was
we're
talking
about.
This
was
what
South,
San
Francisco
talked
about
low
hanging
fruit.
You
know
we're
not
talking
about
Monumental
art
right
at
this
stage,
but
it
doesn't
hurt
to
to
pick
some
of
that
low-hanging
fruit,
yeah
just
just
to
get
some
action
and
some
excitement
about
art,
I
think
that's
always
worthy
and.
D
I
think
that
when
you
have
something
that
is
like
that,
you
know
when
you're
looking
at
spending
250
000
on
a
piece
of
art,
then
maybe
or
revamping
the
whole
back
of
the
live
back
of
the
bathrooms
at
the
park.
Then,
maybe
that's
such
a
substantial
enough
project
that
you
want
the
master
plan
in
place.
C
That
is
the
question
and
is
the
question
that
we
brought
up
to
South
San
Francisco
They.
Don't
still
have
their
master
plan,
but
boy
do
they
have
a
lot
of
artwork
and
the
question
that
I
asked
was
so,
did
you
sit
on
your
hands
and
do
nothing
until
we
have
a
master
plan?
Nobody
said
yes,
sit
on
your
hands
and
do
nothing.
You
do
things
and,
yes,
we
will
make
mistakes
and
people
get
over
the
fact
that
there
is
nothing
that
is
perfect
and
we
need
to
do
stuff
well.
D
E
A
G
we
do
but
that'll
all
fall
into
public
comments.
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
yeah.
A
Yeah
I
don't
know
if
our
attendee
has
any
comments.
I
haven't
received
any
additional
anything
during
the
meeting
at
this
time.
C
You
do
yes,
I
do
I
want
to
put
out
to
you
guys
that
on
April
16th
we
have
two
OB
winners,
who
is
one's
a
director
and
an
actress
as
well
as
a
writer
who
will
be
performing
dark
days
and
a
black
dog
up
at
Mission
blue
on
a
Sunday
at
4
30.
G
C
April
16th
the
show's
about
15
minutes
and
spoken
word
and
stories,
and
it's
a
book
is
written
by
Emily
Keeler,
who
is
a
choreographer,
a
very
well-known
International
natural
endowment
of
the
Arts
recipient
Andrea
snow,
who
has
worked
with
the
San
Francisco
mine
troop
and
is
an
OB
winner
and
it's
directed
by
JL
Weissman,
who
is
also
an
OB
winner
and
I.
Think
that
this
is
going
to
be
an
amazing
experience
and
it's
only
we're
only
showing
it's
very
intimate.
There
are
40
people,
you
think.
C
And
you
get
your
tickets
at
www.worthbay,
danceworks.com
click
on
tickets
and
proceeds.
A
Better
exactly
and
then
we
also
received
public
comment
today:
March
20th
from
Michael,
Barnes
and
I
will
post
that
on
the
our
site
tomorrow.
All
right
so
are
we
adjourned.
D
The
next
meeting
is
we're
going
to
17th
April
I
mean
April
17
2023
at
4
30,
and
we
will
have
new
committee
members
and
at
this
time
this
will
I
would
like
to
say
goodbye
to
everybody
and
thank
you.
It's
been
wonderful
and
honored
to
serve.